August 29, 2024 • 31 mins
Jack Butt from the Big Ten Network joins the show to talk about Michigan and the start of the college football season
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well Snoop Dogg there for you. Back here on the Herd.
Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd. Let's welcome in our
next guest. He played at Michigan and was drafted in
the NFL. Played there, Jake, but big ten network.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Jake.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, good, doing well, doing well. Excited to join you
here today.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming on. I know it's a big,
big weekend. I mean, listen, last weekend was Week zero
and the games were not particularly great, although FSU going
down was funny. This weekend you get a little more action.
I don't know. Can we start with Georgia, Clemson and
mostly Jake because of this Dabo Sweeney resistance since to
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hit in the portal and I think it's going to
come and bite him big, and I wonder maybe too
hot of a take, but by the end of the season,
if there are another you know, seven eight wins, is
Dabbo on the hot seat as he refuses to adjust.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, I've wondered the same thing. And you know, we
do these things to ourselves. He has done this to himself.
It's not just the transfer portal, it's the resistance to
embrace NIL. Like he's made some strange comments there, like
this is a law of the universe, adapt or die,
like the only constant is changed. And he's been one
of the only I don't think any head coach in
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college football loves the way this has changed and is
welcoming all the work that comes with the extra portal
and NIL. But he's been the most vocally resistant. And
I just think that's a bad plan. And I do
believe it's going to show up this weekend. I believe
Georgia is about a two touchdown favorite coming off a
season where they have a really bad taste in their mouth.
I think Georgia feels they would have won the national
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title have they not lost to Alabama on the SEC championship.
That team's absolutely loaded. I'm less confident in club. Nick
Clemson's quarterback that he's going to be able to show
up in a big way this one. If you're Clemson,
you'd like to keep it close. I just don't see
how they win.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well, regarding Georgia Jake, have we seen enough of Carson
Beck to say he's the new number one quarterback who's
going to go in the draft in twenty five because
he really only has fourteen starts, and it looked like
they almost didn't trust him in that SEC title game
if you remember it, a lot of weird offensive decisions,
almost ravens ish like against the Chiefs in the AFC
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Title Game. But where are you on Carson Beck?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I like him, I like him, but I definitely have
not seen enough to lock him in as the first
pick in next year's draft. I think there's a deep
quarterback class. I mean, Quinn, you were Shador Sanders, Jackson Dark,
you know, Dylan Gabriel, and you also you have to
evaluate these things, like if you look at bo Nick's
stats last year, you're like man just in a bubble.
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Those are great stats, and yet we questioned bo Nicks
because of what he had around him. You know, the
quick game, the system, all the receivers, the same is
going to be true anytime you play quarterback at Georgia. Like, yes,
our eyeballs are going to be on Carson Beck because
Georgia is going to dominate their schedule. They'll make the
playoffs and make a run at the national championship. But
to your point, what's he doing the biggest games? How
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does he look operating against the best opponents? Can he
throw into tight windows? Can he anticipate throws? Can he
throw guys open? I think he's capable of it. The
question is if you're at number one pick, you have
to do it consistently.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, we'll see. I did bet him to win the Heisman,
which is a little risky. A lot of people like Gabriel,
but we'll see. Let's go to Penn State West Virginia,
a big game on Fox on Saturday from Morgantown. Penn
State favor by eight. A lot of people think Penn
State is a playoff team, but you know Morgantown can
be rough to get an early season win.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
In any thoughts there, Jake, Yeah, I mean what a
big game too for James Franklin and you know, to
go on the road. You're right, they are picked by
many to be a playoff team. And even when you
go back, like if it was a fourth team playoff,
had it been a twelve team playoff, Penn State is
one of those teams that would have made the playoffs consistently.
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And yet the issue with Penn State hasn't been winning
the games they're expected to win. It's been James Franklin
winning the big games, the tough games. You've mentioned they're favorite,
and this is still a really tough game against a
tough West Virginia team in front of their home crowd.
And I still, you know, I like Drew Aller, but
there's something more I'd like to see from them. The
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big question is have they been able to upgrade at
the receiver position this year?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And this game it's not just about winning, but if
we're projecting them to go to the playoffs, it's also
about how they look.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Let's go to another team that has playoff aspirations, Notre Dame.
They are in College station for shaping up is a
tough one. Notre Dame coming in ranks seven. I like
the kid Riley Leonard that transferred from Duke. It sounds
like he's in line for a big year, but Texas
A Andem's favored here by three. Anything from you on
this one.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Jake, Yeah, really interesting too because I went through this
at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Where we had talent, we had.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Resources, We recruited well, but in twenty fourteen we were
five and seven incomes Jim Harball were immediately a ten
win team. Like night and day, when you get the
right coach in place, the team's going to be elevated. Well,
that's what Texas A and M has with Mike Elko, right,
I mean he was winning games at Duke. What can
he do with A and M with effectively unlimited resources
That in mind, this is the college football landscape. You
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got a new coach, you got a new quarterback. Like
there's there's a lot of mystery things that remain to
be seen. Whereas Notre Dame I see as a much
more stable program and for Marcus Freeman. You look at
that schedule very very manageable. A lot of people are
picking them to be a playoff team. Remember they have
no conference title game to guarantee have a spot. There's
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not a lot of room for air. This is a
winnable but challenging game for Notre Dame. Man, they got
to go out there and play their best ball, and
they'd love to have eleven guys on the field in
the critical situations on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh that's ours. But actually you just thought of something
good for me. Elko coached Riley Leonard at Duke. I'm
just curious from your perspective, like, does that give a
big advantage to Riley Leonard, the quarterback of Notre Dame
going against his former coach, or does it give the
coach an edge over the quarterback knowing his tendency, strengths
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and weaknesses.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I you know, it's good for the coach to know
the quarterback, but he doesn't know Riley Leonard in that system.
He doesn't know Riley Leonard throwing to these receivers and
behind this offensive line and getting the ball out, And
he doesn't know Riley Leonard how he manages a game
with Notre Dame's defense, which I think is going to
be outstanding. So sure, there's some familiar I don't necessarily buy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
As much in that.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think at the end of the day, it's about
it's more about what these guys do within their system.
And I just feel with everything going on with Marcus Freeman,
what a big year, he needs to have these guys ready.
I believe he will have these guys, right, I'm with you.
I really like Riley Leonards the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I'm trying to miss or understand why A and M's
favored here. I know they're at home. I think I
like the Irish getting points. But yeah, we'll see. Yeah,
anything on your Michigan Wolverines. You know the Harbor era
is complete. They are big favorite three touchdowns against Fresno
games in ann Arbor.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Obviously they're gonna win. But I'm just curious, how do
you see Michigan shaky out because it's weird. Everybody instantly thinks, oh, no, harball,
they're falling off a cliff. But there's a world where
this is still like a nine or ten win team.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Right, yeah, oh, one hundred. I think you look at
their schedule. Nine wins should be the floor. In ten
to eleven wins, twelve wins as possible, and really it
all depends on that. This week is big. You're right,
Michigan will likely win this game, but you me, we
Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, everyone should be watching this
game because this is a binary fork in the road.
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It's an if van statement if Michigan, let's say it's
Alex Orgi. If alex Orgi comes out and starts and
plays quality football, doesn't even have to be a Heisman
type performance. But if he plays quality football and Michigan's
still able to run the ball for one hundred and
fifty hundred and sixty yards, the whole nation once again
is going to be unnoticed because their defense is one of,
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if not the best, in college football.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But if the.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Quarterback comes out and struggles and looks shaky and makes
some questionable decisions, all of a sudden, we're reevaluating how
we view Michigan down the stretch. So, yes, this is
a game Michigan will win, but there's still plenty reasons
to tune in because Michigan is a team that can
certainly make the playoff and make a run depending how
the quarterback looks.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Here week one, and we can wrap up Jake with
this usc LSU tilt on Sunday shit, the should be
a spicy game from Vegas. LSU has favored a lot
of newness here with Caleb Williams gone and Jayden Daniel's gone. Obviously, Listen,
everybody likes Lincoln Riley, but I'm sorry, Brian Kelly is
a fantastic coach. How do you handicap this one?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
What the over under is in the sixties too? Right?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Something?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And if you looked at last year, both these teams
were like a mirror of each other. Tons of offense,
absolutely atrocious defense, couldn't stop anything. Well, you wouldn't be
surprised that if the score was fifty to forty five,
until you realize both of these programs went out and
made big time splash highers of the defensive coordinator position.
UFC got Danton Lynn from across town, Ucla. They had
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a great defense last year. LSU goes and gets the
coach from Missouri and we saw how tough they played
last year. So both these defenses are going to be
significantly improved. You combine that with the fact you have
two new quarterbacks. Though I like them both, though I
believe in them both, I do think the defense is
going to be a storyline in this game, just to
see how both programs have elevated on that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
And really just in summary too, what a fun time
in college football. You know, this is the thirteenth ver,
the twenty third team, and the fourteen playoffs. You know,
come late November, there's really six or seven teams we're
talking about that really have a shot at it. Right
your season's over if you lose two games. Well, in
an expanded twelve team playoff, there might be twenty five
or thirty teams that have a realistic shot into November
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at making the playoffs. So think about the stakes.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
In this game.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
To get a ranked win under your belt early for
whoever the winner is. What an amazing opportunity for both programs.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, and a quick note, I just looked at the
quarterbacks in this game, and it's funny. They're replacing guys
who are off to the NFL. But Miller Moss is
twenty two turns twenty three in March, and the kid
Nusmier at LSU, he's twenty two turns twenty three in February.
They're both Red yerd juniors. Jake, I mean, this is
what's a little crazy about college football. It's so tough
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for these kids out of high school. How are you
going to be a threat and crack a roster when
you're going up against a twenty two year old who's
been around the block.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
You know Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady was on
maybe you might have been on the herd, but where
he's talking about the need for young quarterbacks to develop,
and you know, maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I am, I am.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know some are hitting the panic button. People have
been hitting the panic button with the transfer portal and
nil and you know, expanded playoff conference realignment. Now you
can make the case here with veteran you know, Cam
Rising out there in Utah, just these guys that are
twenty two, twenty five years old.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I think it's good.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's a good product. I don't want to see sloppy football.
I want to see two teams at their best, So
we as viewers get to benefit that by watching, Yes,
new quarterbacks, but veteran quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
All right, last one, Ryan Day, Ohio State. That's the
one team I bet to win the Natty this year?
Is it Natty or bust? I still remember that noted
end game last year where they nearly blew it and
people were like, oh, Ryan Day's got to be on
a hot seat. He called an end around in the
red zone.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Time.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It almost feels like he's in a no win situation
at Ohio State. It's win the title or we got
to get this guy out of here.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's harder than ever to win the title. But what
I will say is he better beat his rival. He
better beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh, they got a tough.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Matchup going on the road to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's a big one.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Both Ryan Day and Dan Lanning have struggled against their rivals,
so those are the big ones. But you know, pressure,
I mean, you got here. This is a bit cliche,
but pressure is a privilege. That roster is one of
the best we've seen in recent college football history. With
that comes expectations. With expectations mean, how do you respond
if things don't go well? How do you respond to
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the first adversity? He won't hit this weekend, it won't
hit till later in the season. But that's some of
the pressure Ryan Day has to handle here. You go
out and get chip Kelly. That the whole I think
they collectively have spent like twenty twenty five to thirty
million between their staff and nil. This is not a
resource issue. This is not a talent issue. This is
not a coach issue. What's the missing piece We're going
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to find out this year. And I do like your bet,
I do think a lot of people are fair and
saying a lot of state can make a deep run
at it. But again like it, it has to all
come together, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Jake Butt, former Michigan tight end now at the Big
Ten Network. Great stuff, Jake, enjoy the season man, all right,
Jake but the great former tight end at Michigan.
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Speaker 3 (13:32):
Let's go to Ryan Music with the news.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd
Line News, Oh, j Mac.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It's great to have college football fully underway now. Week
zero was fun, gave us a little appetizer to get
us ready. But here in utak college football there with Jake.
But it's great to have college football here all right. We, however,
are going to turn our attention to the NFL, which
will be getting underway a week from today. So we've
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been dissecting this anonymous agent survey from the athletic This
was interesting category of best off season. You know, let's
let's quizz you a little. Who do you think was
voted best off season thirty one NFL agents.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I probably gotta go Falcons because they got Kirk Cousins.
It was not the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
The Falcons were on the list, but they were not
actually at the top. They only received one vote.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wow. My backup choice would be the Bears. They got
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Bears tied for second. What there are two teams? Sorry? Sorry,
Bears tied for third. Apologies, Chargers because they got horrible
tied with the Bears for third.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
What the heck?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I'll give you one more guess if you want.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I feel like I was reading this article and I
so it's not the Raiders, is it? It is not
the Raiders? No, I give up.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
So first place most votes, Washington Commanders. What that's right? Yeah,
Washington Commanders. Second place Houston Texans. Wait, Washington got Jaden
Daniels and who else? So well, here are the two
quotes from current NFL agents. The front office and coaching
needed seismic changes. They were wise in free agency and
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drafted a quarterback at two. I don't see immediate success
but adding the required building blocks has begun. Here's the
other quote from a different NFL agent, Dan Quinn is
the perfect hire as a head coach for the needed
cultural change. I love the pairing with their new GM,
Adam Peters. They have so much work to do beyond
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just football, so sort of the overhaul of the organization
as a whole and pushing everything into a new direction
seems to be the overall theme, not just the roster move,
but for the listeners of the Herd who know Colin
very high on the Washington commander sort of his surprise,
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sneaky team to make the playoffs in the NFC this year,
so this would somewhat line up with that, all right.
Next story, staying in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns have
raised some eyebrows restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract, giving them the
most cap space in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Sort of the minutia here is in the NFL you
can roll over a lot of your cap space. So
the belief is that they're GM Andrew Barry, who's known
as being a really sharp, savvy sort of cap guy,
is creating this cap space now to roll over in
the next year to have the most cap space next year,
and perhaps make sure that they're always in a position
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to make a big trade. They were reportedly ready to
acquire and pay big money to Brandon Ayuk. You didn't
want to go to Cleveland, at least according to reports.
So the idea is that they're at least keeping themselves
and play to always be roster and cap flexible for
a big fish if they are ready to force their
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way out. This all makes sense from a roster management perspective,
but it also circles back to the fact that Deshaun
Watson's contract is always going to be a problem when
he's not performing, which he has not yet in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's weird. They lose Chubb to injury, Watson to injury,
they bring in Joe Flacco, the offensive line was decimated,
and they still made the playoffs. Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive.
People sleep in a little bit on this, this Browns team,
Denzel Ward a great cornerback, Miles.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Sleeping on what people probably would say is a good
team and a good roster and just hesitant to believe
it until we see the team perform with Deshaun Watson
as the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, I don't think they can reach like a super
Bowl with some backup in there. I don't know what
to make of Watson. I feel I shouldn't say this.
I feel a little bad for how bad he's played.
But you know, you could argue he brought this on
himself with sure massage stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Most would say that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, it's been a rough three years for the
dude as a football player and as a person. I'm sure,
and maybe he just now it's finally behind him and
he moves on. You know, we root for comeback stories,
and you know he's got to do better this year.
Oh yeah, unacceptable. Yeah, it's it's been he has not performed.
And we'll wrap up with this Shoheotani has taken over
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the city of La led the way for the Dodgers
and a win over the Orioles, going two for three,
a home run, two stolen bases. But the big story
actually came before the game.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That's right. It was Otani Bobblehead Night, a special edition
gold bobblehead featuring him and his dog, who actually throughout
in quotations throughout the first pitch last night. But the
local stations here in La reporting some fans lining up
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as early as seven a m. Yesterday because they did
only provide you know, it's the whole like if you
have a ticket, you get into the game, and the
capacity of the stadium is nearly fifty thousand, and they
only provide like thirty thousand bobbleheads or whatever it is.
So people were so dedicated to making sure they got
their Otani bobblehead. They're lining up at seven am.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So you didn't people took a day off work for
that prep.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I think a lot of people must have had to,
or they have jobs that work on the weekend so
they get a Wednesday off.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You probably could have paid somebody to sit in line. Hey,
I'll go you one hundred dollars stand in line for
me for nine hours, right, I mean seven the games.
Actually it's closure to twelve hours. I don't think you
can get in the stadium that at the one man
they love Otani anyone yard last night he did he
did first inning I think uh early in the game.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yes, So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
All right, Ryan with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
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did your group have any involvement in moving the forty
nine ers from six and a half point favorites down
to three and a half Trent Williams, We don't know
if he's gonna be ready, Brandon I. You talk about that.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Game, It wasn't us. That was all based on the
holdout news. We don't know what we're getting from Williams.
We don't know what we're getting from Ayuk. There's also
other injuries that the forty nine ers suffered on the
defensive line as well to a couple of starters. If
they're without Williams, that's a massive blow to that offensive
line because we saw brock Party running for his life
against the Raiders' backups, and now they're going to get
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the Jets defensive front. Ayuk's very unclear what we're going
to get.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You take him.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Away, that's a massive loss outside too, So this is
a forty nine Ers team that does not deserve the
price that they're listed at. If they're without those guys,
their speculation, neither will play.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That's why the line's moving. Are you seeing anything on
the game from Brazil? Eagles favored by three over the Packers?
Something strikes me, as Kellen Moore Sae Kwon Barkley, We're
going to see like a new Eagles team. I don't
know what to make of the Packers defense, so I
kind of like the Eagles here.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
It's all that sentiment being shared too, because not only
are we going to see a new Eagles offense that's
going to be a lot more efficient to what they
had last year, there's questions about what we're getting from
the Packers defense. Jeff Hafley's in as the defensive coordinator,
Jason this is going to be a massive shift for
the Packers defense. They've been very passive, very off coverage
based for the last couple of seasons. Now they're going
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to be one of the more aggressive man coverage teams
in the NFL out trying to bring a bunch of pressure.
There's a lot of uncertainty about what that is going
to look like and matched up against this Eagles offense.
There's a lot of optimism from betters that the Eagles
are going to be able to score and so that's
why we're seeing the Eagles take money. That's why we're
seeing this total be pushed up as well. A big
injury for the Eagles on defense suffered with Bradburry, so
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there's a lot of expectations for points being scored at
Brazil on Friday.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, so he's out six to eight. Not great. I
don't like anything about the Steelers this season, but Mike
Tomlin getting three on the road of the opener against
the Falcons. TJ Watt chasing Kirk Cousins talk me out
of the Steelers here.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I can talk to you out of the Steelers pretty easily
after seeing two glimpses of them in preseason. I mean,
that offense looked atrocious. You had a big run from Patterson,
but we still haven't seen Russ comfortable on the offense
with they resorted to running the triple option in Week
two against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They can get anything going.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I think there's way more questions with the Steelers and
how long it's going to take for this offense to
resemble anything. So my decent on the field, then there
are questions about the Falcons. I think we're getting an
Atlanta team that's going to be airing it out from
week one onward.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I'm much.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
More optimistic about the Falcons offense better that I know
who's a professional that I respect. A Ton took a
pretty big stance on the Falcons at minus two and
a half, way more inclinent to side with him than
I am with Tomlin at home getting three.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh interesting, all right, Arizona visits Buffalo. I was in
Vegas signing up for the contest yesterday and I took
a flyer on the Cardinals getting six on the road.
I heard you on your YouTube stream really hyped this
Arizona scoring offense. Buffalo's defense, No, Milano, what do you say, Arizona.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I don't know if I'm ready to side with Arizona yet,
because Buffalo's going to be able to do whatever they
want on offense, even if Curtis Samuel is not out there.
This Cardinals defense is going to be the worst in
the NFL, so they're not stopping anybody and going into
play Buffalo and how much they want to control the game,
run the football, ball, control offense, they're not going to
have an answer to stop it. The question when it
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comes to can Arizona cover is are they going to
be able to move the ball through the air enough
against this bill secondary, which is far worse than what
they've had on the field the last couple of seasons.
And so I'm not ready to side with Arizona. I'd
much rather have Buffalo in this game. But there's no
question the Cardinals are going to be one of the
highest scoring offenses in football this year, not by choice,
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but because they're going to force to be by how
bad their defense is.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You never like to kick a team when they're down
at them, but the New England Patriots just a brutal week.
The coach sounds like a bumbling buffoon injuries. On defense,
Judon's gone offensive line is a mass unit. If you
look at their left tackle, it's like, what are they
doing Listen, you never like to lay the lumber early. Bengals.
We don't even know if Chase is going to be
there nine and a half point favorites. Is it Bengals
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are passed for you or I know you're an underdog
better but it has to be.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
But I think it's a pass here, honestly because of
the Chase situation. We have to see how that plays out.
Feels like that play that's so obvious that it kind
of in a way is quite square and basic because
of how big the number is. Also, the Chiefs are
on deck for Cincinnati. So if you're thinking about laying
the big number with the Bengals at home and the
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opener without Chase going through camp, from practice and everything
in the offseason and hoping it's right, are they going
to take the foot off.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The gas later in the game.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
That's typically something we see happened early in the season
when games are in control. But, like you mentioned, I
would love to feed New England here with how they
backtracked on the QB situation. Judaan's gone, Barmore is not
going to be in the D line. The O line
is a wreck. I just think how this was handled
by coaching staff, and what they did with the QBS
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just to me singles to the locker room. It's not
a win now situation for New England. That's not the priority,
and I think it's going to be ugly for New England.
But I would much rather prefer to be on under
forty one points for the total than I would laying
the big number with Cincinnati Smart.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I could dig that. Let me think you about this
boon Nick Sean Payton marriage in Denver. They're going to
be going up against Mike McDonald, who is really really good.
If you remember last year CJ. Strold and the Opener
went to Baltimore and looked totally confused with that McDonald defense. Now,
Seattle doesn't have the horses that Baltimore did, but that
number looks to be ticking up. I'm seeing five and
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a half. It's a kind of a big number to
lay with Gino Smith, But I think I like Seattle here.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I like them too, and I disagree it's too big
a number to lay with Gino. I think it's not
big enough of a number when you consider it's a
rookie quarterback going on the road into Luman to take
on Mike McDonald's defense and Seattle. It's a terrible spot
for Denver, who wants to run the football to begin with.
This is not a pass offense, and the Seattle defensive
line against the run is going to be fantastic. I
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think Mike McDonald is going to be a top five
coach in the NFL. His defensive scheme is revered by everybody,
and this is just a nightmare starting matchup for the Broncos.
And so to me, Gino and his deep ball with
this trio wide receivers is going to be just fine.
He's gonna have a monster season. I don't think this
number is big enough. I think it keeps going up.
I'd be happy to lay the points with Seattle.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Okay, Rams Lions. It's in the weeds here, but the
Rams offensive line has been a mash unit. Stafford's had
a hamstring. I know a lot of people seem to
like the Rams based off last year, but this Detroit team,
I think they're Super Bowl bound. I know that's crazy, Adam,
Why is this only three and a half?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Last year in the playoffs had closed three tight game
where the Rams out gained the Lions by nearly two
yards per play. It was just unlucky plays in the
red zone that cost the Rams that game. So that
line is kind of anchored to this market, which is
why it's not being pushed out more. What I would
disagree with in that though, is that the Rams offensive
line is going to struggle. They rebuilt the interior, shuffled
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some pieces around, some additions.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They've got a thousand pounds.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Of man at left guard, center, and right guard, so
they're gonna have no issue for acting Stafford. They're gonna
have no issues running the football either. I'm looking at
this game with a really high total. It's at fifty one.
I don't know if that's total is high enough because
last year we got to forty seven and again there
was issues in the red zone. Now you have a
more comfortable Stafford in the pocket, with a great ground game,
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and like you mentioned, the Lions, they're gonna be contenders.
That's a loaded offense that they have, and those corners
they added, it's gonna take time for them to be implemented.
So to me, I think we get an absolute shootout
on Sunday night football.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
All right, let's end with an ugly one. The Minnesota
Vikings visit the New York Giants, and this is a
Vikings team. I don't know. Hockinson won't be there. You
got Sam Darnold starting. But I just can't get over
how ugly and bad the Giants are. And remember last
year Week one they got smashed. I think it was
forty to zero against the Cowboys. I like the Vikings.
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Here are you in agreement?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
I'm not in agreement with the side. I don't have
an opinion, but I will say on the total that
number's too low. I think Sam darn really being undervalued
as the starter. Last year, Kevin O'Connell got a trio
of quarterbacks past Kirk Cousins to play to a near
average level on offense. And now it's a full season
of prep with Justin Jefferson obviously healthy he wasn't last year.
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At the end, I think the Vikings offense is going
to be okay. I think it might be an average
unit for the season. And I think on the other side,
there's been so much negativity and criticism of Daniel Jones
because of what he did Week two in the preseason.
But I'll tell you what, nobody's going into Houston and
looking much better. Than Daniel Jones did in his preseason
game against Houston. I think with day Ball taking over
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play calling, the pressure he has on him to hold
his job, the Giants are going to figure out how
to do enough on offense early in the season.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
This is a.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Total in the low forties, around forty one. To me,
that number needs to be a lot higher. So I
think this is going to be a higher scoring game
than expected.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
All Right, Adam Chernoff Right Angle Sports. Find him online,
follow him. He knows his stuff. Adam, thanks a lot,
Good luck this season, buddy. All Right, Adam shirt Off,
Right Angle Sports. Listen. If that didn't get if I
didn't just wet your beak for week one, you're not
a football fan, all right, everybody, it was fun three
hours in the books. Be safe out there and happy gambling.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well Snoop Dogg there for you. Back here on the Herd.
Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd. Let's welcome in our
next guest. He played at Michigan and was drafted in
the NFL. Played there, Jake, but big ten network.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Jake.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
How you doing man?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Hey, good, doing well, doing well. Excited to join you
here today.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming on. I know it's a big,
big weekend. I mean, listen, last weekend was Week zero
and the games were not particularly great, although FSU going
down was funny. This weekend you get a little more action.
I don't know. Can we start with Georgia, Clemson and
mostly Jake because of this Dabo Sweeney resistance since to
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hit in the portal and I think it's going to
come and bite him big, and I wonder maybe too
hot of a take, but by the end of the season,
if there are another you know, seven eight wins, is
Dabbo on the hot seat as he refuses to adjust.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, I've wondered the same thing. And you know, we
do these things to ourselves. He has done this to himself.
It's not just the transfer portal, it's the resistance to
embrace NIL. Like he's made some strange comments there, like
this is a law of the universe, adapt or die,
like the only constant is changed. And he's been one
of the only I don't think any head coach in
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college football loves the way this has changed and is
welcoming all the work that comes with the extra portal
and NIL. But he's been the most vocally resistant. And
I just think that's a bad plan. And I do
believe it's going to show up this weekend. I believe
Georgia is about a two touchdown favorite coming off a
season where they have a really bad taste in their mouth.
I think Georgia feels they would have won the national
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title have they not lost to Alabama on the SEC championship.
That team's absolutely loaded. I'm less confident in club. Nick
Clemson's quarterback that he's going to be able to show
up in a big way this one. If you're Clemson,
you'd like to keep it close. I just don't see
how they win.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well, regarding Georgia Jake, have we seen enough of Carson
Beck to say he's the new number one quarterback who's
going to go in the draft in twenty five because
he really only has fourteen starts, and it looked like
they almost didn't trust him in that SEC title game
if you remember it, a lot of weird offensive decisions,
almost ravens ish like against the Chiefs in the AFC
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Title Game. But where are you on Carson Beck?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I like him, I like him, but I definitely have
not seen enough to lock him in as the first
pick in next year's draft. I think there's a deep
quarterback class. I mean, Quinn, you were Shador Sanders, Jackson Dark,
you know, Dylan Gabriel, and you also you have to
evaluate these things, like if you look at bo Nick's
stats last year, you're like man just in a bubble.
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Those are great stats, and yet we questioned bo Nicks
because of what he had around him. You know, the
quick game, the system, all the receivers, the same is
going to be true anytime you play quarterback at Georgia. Like, yes,
our eyeballs are going to be on Carson Beck because
Georgia is going to dominate their schedule. They'll make the
playoffs and make a run at the national championship. But
to your point, what's he doing the biggest games? How
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does he look operating against the best opponents? Can he
throw into tight windows? Can he anticipate throws? Can he
throw guys open? I think he's capable of it. The
question is if you're at number one pick, you have
to do it consistently.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, we'll see. I did bet him to win the Heisman,
which is a little risky. A lot of people like Gabriel,
but we'll see. Let's go to Penn State West Virginia,
a big game on Fox on Saturday from Morgantown. Penn
State favor by eight. A lot of people think Penn
State is a playoff team, but you know Morgantown can
be rough to get an early season win.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
In any thoughts there, Jake, Yeah, I mean what a
big game too for James Franklin and you know, to
go on the road. You're right, they are picked by
many to be a playoff team. And even when you
go back, like if it was a fourth team playoff,
had it been a twelve team playoff, Penn State is
one of those teams that would have made the playoffs consistently.
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And yet the issue with Penn State hasn't been winning
the games they're expected to win. It's been James Franklin
winning the big games, the tough games. You've mentioned they're favorite,
and this is still a really tough game against a
tough West Virginia team in front of their home crowd.
And I still, you know, I like Drew Aller, but
there's something more I'd like to see from them. The
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big question is have they been able to upgrade at
the receiver position this year?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And this game it's not just about winning, but if
we're projecting them to go to the playoffs, it's also
about how they look.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Let's go to another team that has playoff aspirations, Notre Dame.
They are in College station for shaping up is a
tough one. Notre Dame coming in ranks seven. I like
the kid Riley Leonard that transferred from Duke. It sounds
like he's in line for a big year, but Texas
A Andem's favored here by three. Anything from you on
this one.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Jake, Yeah, really interesting too because I went through this
at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Where we had talent, we had.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Resources, We recruited well, but in twenty fourteen we were
five and seven incomes Jim Harball were immediately a ten
win team. Like night and day, when you get the
right coach in place, the team's going to be elevated. Well,
that's what Texas A and M has with Mike Elko, right,
I mean he was winning games at Duke. What can
he do with A and M with effectively unlimited resources
That in mind, this is the college football landscape. You
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got a new coach, you got a new quarterback. Like
there's there's a lot of mystery things that remain to
be seen. Whereas Notre Dame I see as a much
more stable program and for Marcus Freeman. You look at
that schedule very very manageable. A lot of people are
picking them to be a playoff team. Remember they have
no conference title game to guarantee have a spot. There's
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not a lot of room for air. This is a
winnable but challenging game for Notre Dame. Man, they got
to go out there and play their best ball, and
they'd love to have eleven guys on the field in
the critical situations on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh that's ours. But actually you just thought of something
good for me. Elko coached Riley Leonard at Duke. I'm
just curious from your perspective, like, does that give a
big advantage to Riley Leonard, the quarterback of Notre Dame
going against his former coach, or does it give the
coach an edge over the quarterback knowing his tendency, strengths
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and weaknesses.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I you know, it's good for the coach to know
the quarterback, but he doesn't know Riley Leonard in that system.
He doesn't know Riley Leonard throwing to these receivers and
behind this offensive line and getting the ball out, And
he doesn't know Riley Leonard how he manages a game
with Notre Dame's defense, which I think is going to
be outstanding. So sure, there's some familiar I don't necessarily buy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
As much in that.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think at the end of the day, it's about
it's more about what these guys do within their system.
And I just feel with everything going on with Marcus Freeman,
what a big year, he needs to have these guys ready.
I believe he will have these guys, right, I'm with you.
I really like Riley Leonards the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I'm trying to miss or understand why A and M's
favored here. I know they're at home. I think I
like the Irish getting points. But yeah, we'll see. Yeah,
anything on your Michigan Wolverines. You know the Harbor era
is complete. They are big favorite three touchdowns against Fresno
games in ann Arbor.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Obviously they're gonna win. But I'm just curious, how do
you see Michigan shaky out because it's weird. Everybody instantly thinks, oh, no, harball,
they're falling off a cliff. But there's a world where
this is still like a nine or ten win team.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Right, yeah, oh, one hundred. I think you look at
their schedule. Nine wins should be the floor. In ten
to eleven wins, twelve wins as possible, and really it
all depends on that. This week is big. You're right,
Michigan will likely win this game, but you me, we
Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, everyone should be watching this
game because this is a binary fork in the road.
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It's an if van statement if Michigan, let's say it's
Alex Orgi. If alex Orgi comes out and starts and
plays quality football, doesn't even have to be a Heisman
type performance. But if he plays quality football and Michigan's
still able to run the ball for one hundred and
fifty hundred and sixty yards, the whole nation once again
is going to be unnoticed because their defense is one of,
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if not the best, in college football.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But if the.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Quarterback comes out and struggles and looks shaky and makes
some questionable decisions, all of a sudden, we're reevaluating how
we view Michigan down the stretch. So, yes, this is
a game Michigan will win, but there's still plenty reasons
to tune in because Michigan is a team that can
certainly make the playoff and make a run depending how
the quarterback looks.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Here week one, and we can wrap up Jake with
this usc LSU tilt on Sunday shit, the should be
a spicy game from Vegas. LSU has favored a lot
of newness here with Caleb Williams gone and Jayden Daniel's gone. Obviously, Listen,
everybody likes Lincoln Riley, but I'm sorry, Brian Kelly is
a fantastic coach. How do you handicap this one?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
What the over under is in the sixties too? Right?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Something?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And if you looked at last year, both these teams
were like a mirror of each other. Tons of offense,
absolutely atrocious defense, couldn't stop anything. Well, you wouldn't be
surprised that if the score was fifty to forty five,
until you realize both of these programs went out and
made big time splash highers of the defensive coordinator position.
UFC got Danton Lynn from across town, Ucla. They had
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a great defense last year. LSU goes and gets the
coach from Missouri and we saw how tough they played
last year. So both these defenses are going to be
significantly improved. You combine that with the fact you have
two new quarterbacks. Though I like them both, though I
believe in them both, I do think the defense is
going to be a storyline in this game, just to
see how both programs have elevated on that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
And really just in summary too, what a fun time
in college football. You know, this is the thirteenth ver,
the twenty third team, and the fourteen playoffs. You know,
come late November, there's really six or seven teams we're
talking about that really have a shot at it. Right
your season's over if you lose two games. Well, in
an expanded twelve team playoff, there might be twenty five
or thirty teams that have a realistic shot into November
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at making the playoffs. So think about the stakes.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
In this game.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
To get a ranked win under your belt early for
whoever the winner is. What an amazing opportunity for both programs.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, and a quick note, I just looked at the
quarterbacks in this game, and it's funny. They're replacing guys
who are off to the NFL. But Miller Moss is
twenty two turns twenty three in March, and the kid
Nusmier at LSU, he's twenty two turns twenty three in February.
They're both Red yerd juniors. Jake, I mean, this is
what's a little crazy about college football. It's so tough
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for these kids out of high school. How are you
going to be a threat and crack a roster when
you're going up against a twenty two year old who's
been around the block.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
You know Tom Brady. I think Tom Brady was on
maybe you might have been on the herd, but where
he's talking about the need for young quarterbacks to develop,
and you know, maybe that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I am, I am.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know some are hitting the panic button. People have
been hitting the panic button with the transfer portal and
nil and you know, expanded playoff conference realignment. Now you
can make the case here with veteran you know, Cam
Rising out there in Utah, just these guys that are
twenty two, twenty five years old.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I think it's good.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's a good product. I don't want to see sloppy football.
I want to see two teams at their best, So
we as viewers get to benefit that by watching, Yes,
new quarterbacks, but veteran quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
All right, last one, Ryan Day, Ohio State. That's the
one team I bet to win the Natty this year?
Is it Natty or bust? I still remember that noted
end game last year where they nearly blew it and
people were like, oh, Ryan Day's got to be on
a hot seat. He called an end around in the
red zone.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Time.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It almost feels like he's in a no win situation
at Ohio State. It's win the title or we got
to get this guy out of here.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's harder than ever to win the title. But what
I will say is he better beat his rival. He
better beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh, they got a tough.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Matchup going on the road to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's a big one.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Both Ryan Day and Dan Lanning have struggled against their rivals,
so those are the big ones. But you know, pressure,
I mean, you got here. This is a bit cliche,
but pressure is a privilege. That roster is one of
the best we've seen in recent college football history. With
that comes expectations. With expectations mean, how do you respond
if things don't go well? How do you respond to
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the first adversity? He won't hit this weekend, it won't
hit till later in the season. But that's some of
the pressure Ryan Day has to handle here. You go
out and get chip Kelly. That the whole I think
they collectively have spent like twenty twenty five to thirty
million between their staff and nil. This is not a
resource issue. This is not a talent issue. This is
not a coach issue. What's the missing piece We're going
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to find out this year. And I do like your bet,
I do think a lot of people are fair and
saying a lot of state can make a deep run
at it. But again like it, it has to all
come together, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Jake Butt, former Michigan tight end now at the Big
Ten Network. Great stuff, Jake, enjoy the season man, all right,
Jake but the great former tight end at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
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Speaker 3 (13:32):
Let's go to Ryan Music with the news.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd
Line News, Oh, j Mac.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It's great to have college football fully underway now. Week
zero was fun, gave us a little appetizer to get
us ready. But here in utak college football there with Jake.
But it's great to have college football here all right. We, however,
are going to turn our attention to the NFL, which
will be getting underway a week from today. So we've
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been dissecting this anonymous agent survey from the athletic This
was interesting category of best off season. You know, let's
let's quizz you a little. Who do you think was
voted best off season thirty one NFL agents.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I probably gotta go Falcons because they got Kirk Cousins.
It was not the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
The Falcons were on the list, but they were not
actually at the top. They only received one vote.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wow. My backup choice would be the Bears. They got
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Bears tied for second. What there are two teams? Sorry? Sorry,
Bears tied for third. Apologies, Chargers because they got horrible
tied with the Bears for third.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
What the heck?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I'll give you one more guess if you want.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I feel like I was reading this article and I
so it's not the Raiders, is it? It is not
the Raiders? No, I give up.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
So first place most votes, Washington Commanders. What that's right? Yeah,
Washington Commanders. Second place Houston Texans. Wait, Washington got Jaden
Daniels and who else? So well, here are the two
quotes from current NFL agents. The front office and coaching
needed seismic changes. They were wise in free agency and
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drafted a quarterback at two. I don't see immediate success
but adding the required building blocks has begun. Here's the
other quote from a different NFL agent, Dan Quinn is
the perfect hire as a head coach for the needed
cultural change. I love the pairing with their new GM,
Adam Peters. They have so much work to do beyond
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just football, so sort of the overhaul of the organization
as a whole and pushing everything into a new direction
seems to be the overall theme, not just the roster move,
but for the listeners of the Herd who know Colin
very high on the Washington commander sort of his surprise,
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sneaky team to make the playoffs in the NFC this year,
so this would somewhat line up with that, all right.
Next story, staying in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns have
raised some eyebrows restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract, giving them the
most cap space in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Now.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Sort of the minutia here is in the NFL you
can roll over a lot of your cap space. So
the belief is that they're GM Andrew Barry, who's known
as being a really sharp, savvy sort of cap guy,
is creating this cap space now to roll over in
the next year to have the most cap space next year,
and perhaps make sure that they're always in a position
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to make a big trade. They were reportedly ready to
acquire and pay big money to Brandon Ayuk. You didn't
want to go to Cleveland, at least according to reports.
So the idea is that they're at least keeping themselves
and play to always be roster and cap flexible for
a big fish if they are ready to force their
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way out. This all makes sense from a roster management perspective,
but it also circles back to the fact that Deshaun
Watson's contract is always going to be a problem when
he's not performing, which he has not yet in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's weird. They lose Chubb to injury, Watson to injury,
they bring in Joe Flacco, the offensive line was decimated,
and they still made the playoffs. Yeah, that's that's pretty impressive.
People sleep in a little bit on this, this Browns team,
Denzel Ward a great cornerback, Miles.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Sleeping on what people probably would say is a good
team and a good roster and just hesitant to believe
it until we see the team perform with Deshaun Watson
as the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, I don't think they can reach like a super
Bowl with some backup in there. I don't know what
to make of Watson. I feel I shouldn't say this.
I feel a little bad for how bad he's played.
But you know, you could argue he brought this on
himself with sure massage stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Most would say that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean, it's been a rough three years for the
dude as a football player and as a person. I'm sure,
and maybe he just now it's finally behind him and
he moves on. You know, we root for comeback stories,
and you know he's got to do better this year.
Oh yeah, unacceptable. Yeah, it's it's been he has not performed.
And we'll wrap up with this Shoheotani has taken over
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the city of La led the way for the Dodgers
and a win over the Orioles, going two for three,
a home run, two stolen bases. But the big story
actually came before the game.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That's right. It was Otani Bobblehead Night, a special edition
gold bobblehead featuring him and his dog, who actually throughout
in quotations throughout the first pitch last night. But the
local stations here in La reporting some fans lining up
(18:56):
as early as seven a m. Yesterday because they did
only provide you know, it's the whole like if you
have a ticket, you get into the game, and the
capacity of the stadium is nearly fifty thousand, and they
only provide like thirty thousand bobbleheads or whatever it is.
So people were so dedicated to making sure they got
their Otani bobblehead. They're lining up at seven am.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So you didn't people took a day off work for
that prep.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I think a lot of people must have had to,
or they have jobs that work on the weekend so
they get a Wednesday off.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
You probably could have paid somebody to sit in line. Hey,
I'll go you one hundred dollars stand in line for
me for nine hours, right, I mean seven the games.
Actually it's closure to twelve hours. I don't think you
can get in the stadium that at the one man
they love Otani anyone yard last night he did he
did first inning I think uh early in the game.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yes, So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
All right, Ryan with the news.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping buying the herd.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Line news, all right, folks, Adam and off gambling stud
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What is up, folks? I know you've been waiting for
this for hours. Adam Chernoff, right angle sports gambling analyst,
I've known him for a while. I mean listen. He
went on YouTube yesterday and fired off so many good
takes this guy, Adam. How are you many A? All right,
let's dive right into Week one in the NFL. I
gotta say lines to jump out at me. First of all,
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did your group have any involvement in moving the forty
nine ers from six and a half point favorites down
to three and a half Trent Williams, We don't know
if he's gonna be ready, Brandon I. You talk about that.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Game, It wasn't us. That was all based on the
holdout news. We don't know what we're getting from Williams.
We don't know what we're getting from Ayuk. There's also
other injuries that the forty nine ers suffered on the
defensive line as well to a couple of starters. If
they're without Williams, that's a massive blow to that offensive
line because we saw brock Party running for his life
against the Raiders' backups, and now they're going to get
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the Jets defensive front. Ayuk's very unclear what we're going
to get.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You take him.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Away, that's a massive loss outside too, So this is
a forty nine Ers team that does not deserve the
price that they're listed at. If they're without those guys,
their speculation, neither will play.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That's why the line's moving. Are you seeing anything on
the game from Brazil? Eagles favored by three over the Packers?
Something strikes me, as Kellen Moore Sae Kwon Barkley, We're
going to see like a new Eagles team. I don't
know what to make of the Packers defense, so I
kind of like the Eagles here.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
It's all that sentiment being shared too, because not only
are we going to see a new Eagles offense that's
going to be a lot more efficient to what they
had last year, there's questions about what we're getting from
the Packers defense. Jeff Hafley's in as the defensive coordinator,
Jason this is going to be a massive shift for
the Packers defense. They've been very passive, very off coverage
based for the last couple of seasons. Now they're going
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to be one of the more aggressive man coverage teams
in the NFL out trying to bring a bunch of pressure.
There's a lot of uncertainty about what that is going
to look like and matched up against this Eagles offense.
There's a lot of optimism from betters that the Eagles
are going to be able to score and so that's
why we're seeing the Eagles take money. That's why we're
seeing this total be pushed up as well. A big
injury for the Eagles on defense suffered with Bradburry, so
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there's a lot of expectations for points being scored at
Brazil on Friday.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, so he's out six to eight. Not great. I
don't like anything about the Steelers this season, but Mike
Tomlin getting three on the road of the opener against
the Falcons. TJ Watt chasing Kirk Cousins talk me out
of the Steelers here.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I can talk to you out of the Steelers pretty easily
after seeing two glimpses of them in preseason. I mean,
that offense looked atrocious. You had a big run from Patterson,
but we still haven't seen Russ comfortable on the offense
with they resorted to running the triple option in Week
two against the Bills.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They can get anything going.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I think there's way more questions with the Steelers and
how long it's going to take for this offense to
resemble anything. So my decent on the field, then there
are questions about the Falcons. I think we're getting an
Atlanta team that's going to be airing it out from
week one onward.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I'm much.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
More optimistic about the Falcons offense better that I know
who's a professional that I respect. A Ton took a
pretty big stance on the Falcons at minus two and
a half, way more inclinent to side with him than
I am with Tomlin at home getting three.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh interesting, all right, Arizona visits Buffalo. I was in
Vegas signing up for the contest yesterday and I took
a flyer on the Cardinals getting six on the road.
I heard you on your YouTube stream really hyped this
Arizona scoring offense. Buffalo's defense, No, Milano, what do you say, Arizona.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I don't know if I'm ready to side with Arizona yet,
because Buffalo's going to be able to do whatever they
want on offense, even if Curtis Samuel is not out there.
This Cardinals defense is going to be the worst in
the NFL, so they're not stopping anybody and going into
play Buffalo and how much they want to control the game,
run the football, ball, control offense, they're not going to
have an answer to stop it. The question when it
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comes to can Arizona cover is are they going to
be able to move the ball through the air enough
against this bill secondary, which is far worse than what
they've had on the field the last couple of seasons.
And so I'm not ready to side with Arizona. I'd
much rather have Buffalo in this game. But there's no
question the Cardinals are going to be one of the
highest scoring offenses in football this year, not by choice,
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but because they're going to force to be by how
bad their defense is.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You never like to kick a team when they're down
at them, but the New England Patriots just a brutal week.
The coach sounds like a bumbling buffoon injuries. On defense,
Judon's gone offensive line is a mass unit. If you
look at their left tackle, it's like, what are they
doing Listen, you never like to lay the lumber early. Bengals.
We don't even know if Chase is going to be
there nine and a half point favorites. Is it Bengals
(25:50):
are passed for you or I know you're an underdog
better but it has to be.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
But I think it's a pass here, honestly because of
the Chase situation. We have to see how that plays out.
Feels like that play that's so obvious that it kind
of in a way is quite square and basic because
of how big the number is. Also, the Chiefs are
on deck for Cincinnati. So if you're thinking about laying
the big number with the Bengals at home and the
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opener without Chase going through camp, from practice and everything
in the offseason and hoping it's right, are they going
to take the foot off.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The gas later in the game.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
That's typically something we see happened early in the season
when games are in control. But, like you mentioned, I
would love to feed New England here with how they
backtracked on the QB situation. Judaan's gone, Barmore is not
going to be in the D line. The O line
is a wreck. I just think how this was handled
by coaching staff, and what they did with the QBS
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just to me singles to the locker room. It's not
a win now situation for New England. That's not the priority,
and I think it's going to be ugly for New England.
But I would much rather prefer to be on under
forty one points for the total than I would laying
the big number with Cincinnati Smart.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I could dig that. Let me think you about this
boon Nick Sean Payton marriage in Denver. They're going to
be going up against Mike McDonald, who is really really good.
If you remember last year CJ. Strold and the Opener
went to Baltimore and looked totally confused with that McDonald defense. Now,
Seattle doesn't have the horses that Baltimore did, but that
number looks to be ticking up. I'm seeing five and
(27:19):
a half. It's a kind of a big number to
lay with Gino Smith, But I think I like Seattle here.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I like them too, and I disagree it's too big
a number to lay with Gino. I think it's not
big enough of a number when you consider it's a
rookie quarterback going on the road into Luman to take
on Mike McDonald's defense and Seattle. It's a terrible spot
for Denver, who wants to run the football to begin with.
This is not a pass offense, and the Seattle defensive
line against the run is going to be fantastic. I
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think Mike McDonald is going to be a top five
coach in the NFL. His defensive scheme is revered by everybody,
and this is just a nightmare starting matchup for the Broncos.
And so to me, Gino and his deep ball with
this trio wide receivers is going to be just fine.
He's gonna have a monster season. I don't think this
number is big enough. I think it keeps going up.
I'd be happy to lay the points with Seattle.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Okay, Rams Lions. It's in the weeds here, but the
Rams offensive line has been a mash unit. Stafford's had
a hamstring. I know a lot of people seem to
like the Rams based off last year, but this Detroit team,
I think they're Super Bowl bound. I know that's crazy, Adam,
Why is this only three and a half?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Last year in the playoffs had closed three tight game
where the Rams out gained the Lions by nearly two
yards per play. It was just unlucky plays in the
red zone that cost the Rams that game. So that
line is kind of anchored to this market, which is
why it's not being pushed out more. What I would
disagree with in that though, is that the Rams offensive
line is going to struggle. They rebuilt the interior, shuffled
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some pieces around, some additions.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They've got a thousand pounds.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Of man at left guard, center, and right guard, so
they're gonna have no issue for acting Stafford. They're gonna
have no issues running the football either. I'm looking at
this game with a really high total. It's at fifty one.
I don't know if that's total is high enough because
last year we got to forty seven and again there
was issues in the red zone. Now you have a
more comfortable Stafford in the pocket, with a great ground game,
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and like you mentioned, the Lions, they're gonna be contenders.
That's a loaded offense that they have, and those corners
they added, it's gonna take time for them to be implemented.
So to me, I think we get an absolute shootout
on Sunday night football.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
All right, let's end with an ugly one. The Minnesota
Vikings visit the New York Giants, and this is a
Vikings team. I don't know. Hockinson won't be there. You
got Sam Darnold starting. But I just can't get over
how ugly and bad the Giants are. And remember last
year Week one they got smashed. I think it was
forty to zero against the Cowboys. I like the Vikings.
(29:50):
Here are you in agreement?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
I'm not in agreement with the side. I don't have
an opinion, but I will say on the total that
number's too low. I think Sam darn really being undervalued
as the starter. Last year, Kevin O'Connell got a trio
of quarterbacks past Kirk Cousins to play to a near
average level on offense. And now it's a full season
of prep with Justin Jefferson obviously healthy he wasn't last year.
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At the end, I think the Vikings offense is going
to be okay. I think it might be an average
unit for the season. And I think on the other side,
there's been so much negativity and criticism of Daniel Jones
because of what he did Week two in the preseason.
But I'll tell you what, nobody's going into Houston and
looking much better. Than Daniel Jones did in his preseason
game against Houston. I think with day Ball taking over
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play calling, the pressure he has on him to hold
his job, the Giants are going to figure out how
to do enough on offense early in the season.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
This is a.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Total in the low forties, around forty one. To me,
that number needs to be a lot higher. So I
think this is going to be a higher scoring game
than expected.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
All Right, Adam Chernoff Right Angle Sports. Find him online,
follow him. He knows his stuff. Adam, thanks a lot,
Good luck this season, buddy. All Right, Adam shirt Off,
Right Angle Sports. Listen. If that didn't get if I
didn't just wet your beak for week one, you're not
a football fan, all right, everybody, it was fun three
hours in the books. Be safe out there and happy gambling.
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