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All right, so business is picking up now, finally, finally
business is picking up. Right. I know we talk about
this a lot, but here's the deal. It's the fight,
or at least it feels like the fight. I know
that when I'm talking to Ben, he was more of
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the belief that John Jones and step Ashen not fight,
We should have move to Tom aspinall. But I was
of the belief that if anybody deserves an opportunity to
say I want this one, it's these two guys. It's
these two guys. They have done enough in the sport
to where if they go I want to fight John Jones,
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I get to fight John Jones. But Tom aspinall while,
I thought he completely fumbled the post fight interview with
me in Manchester. Seems to be frustrated, and honestly, frustration
might be good right now, because in frustration you start
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to really show your true feelings on the situation. Now,
he was very respectful in that interview, But Chill and
I had a discussion the other day about post fight
interviews and what does respectful get you? Doesn't really get
you all that you want. Now. Respects out the window
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with this dude, and he's just telling it how it is.
But here's one thing about John Jones. And this could
be from me because I know because I'm a person
that lived it with him. The thing about John Jones,
he doesn't like disrespect. He can't ignore it. He can't
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ignore when you take shots at him. That is why,
as Chill said, it was very easy to get under
his skin. Chill said, he took his Halloween candy, he
got a response, He ultimately got the fight. Everybody knew
Jill was lying, but he got John's attention because John
felt disrespected, and we as fighters don't like being disrespected,
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especially one who has had as much success as John
Jones has had. And at the end of the day,
John Jones is a champion and he is a competitor.
So what happened to day is and it's long been deleted,
but you guys know, man, you can't really delete things
on the Internet, so once it's out there, it's pretty
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much out there. So I got this off the Mac Life, who,
by the way, does a phenomenal job. Oscar does great
work for the site and for their YouTube and everything
else they do. So John Wrights, this dude literally has
my large in his mouth every week. I'm flattered. I
absolutely guarantee he will not win more World championships than me.
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That's truly all that matters. At the end of the day.
There's been many champions, no one like me. I sleep
good at night to that. Tom Aspernaul goes John's Wright.
He won so many world championships in me. He's won
more World championships in me while using peds. Guys, guys,
it's brilliant. It's brilliant because, as you know, through the
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whole course of the situation with John and I, the
one thing he always hated and the one thing that
he wants to prove more than anything is that he
did not do peds. The one thing that he doesn't
want on his record is an asterisk to the point
that when Yusada said John Jones's levels were low, like
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throwing a pitch as salt in a swimming pool or
something like that, he said, I beat Yousada, which, as
we have discussed, you didn't beat Yousada. They just aren't
saying I don't remember what the fuck they said at
the end of it. But he wanted to prove I
didn't do that. So tom Asbnall, attacking that part of
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what he has done will really make him jump in
and go I can't stand that. Dude. When somebody says
they can't stand you, ultimately they choose to fight you.
Tom Asbnall now is finally he's poked, and he's poked,
and he's poked and he's poked. And while neither me
or Chill or anyone else that got under the skin
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of Jones has told him directly this is the path.
He finally has found, the thing that will ultimately get
him closer to that fight. Does that fight happen? I
don't know. I don't know, and honestly, I don't know
if it's in John's best interests to take this fight
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because this kid's young, this kid's excited, this kid wants
everything that he has had, and that makes him dangerous.
And I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't have
the same view of Tom Aspernall as Michael Bisbing and
some of those guys did initially, But I'm slowly starting
to buy into the idea that this dude is the
future of the heavyweight division. Now, I would love to
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see him in there with a striker like Cyril Gone
or one of those other guys. But when I watch him,
I think that he is something different than what we
have seen in a very long time in the heavyweight division.
Because while friend jnson Gan, who was so great, he
wasn't a well rounded guy like you see in Tom
Aspunol Francis. While he was awesome, the one area that
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Stepe really did take advantage of was the wrestling. And
we will not pretend that France is now some high
level wrestling guy, even though he was able to out
wrestle cyro Gon. This guy just seems to be next.
He just seems to be next. And when you're speaking
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of retirement, as we have heard John do on many occasions, now,
you don't really want to see the guy that's next.
You don't want to see that next generation because, like
he has said multiple times, I beat so many generations
of fighters, and that he did and that is what
made him great. But can he go through four generations?
He went through the who A generation Mauricia owing those guys,
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those guys are the best. Then he went to the
generation of guys like myself who were the best at
the time, and Rashad and gustuson. Then he went through
the generation where he beat Dominic Rees and he beat
Cerrol Goon, and he beat Tiago Santos. I think his
name is. Those guys were that generation of fighter. He's
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been through three generations of fighters. Does he have enoughing
to take to go through another generation of guys? Does he?
That would be a big ask for anyone. But when
you look at this guy, this guy seems like, I
don't know, especially when you're looking at fighting a guy
that's forty two years old and hasn't fought in three
and a half years for a massive payday, possibly the
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biggest payday of his career. Didn't need to say like
fifteen million or something a while back, but I believe
also ultimately right now, Tom asperinault while poking in Praden
finally has touched on the thing that will ultimately make
John Jones go, my god, I cannot stand his dude.
I need to deal with him because when you accuse
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him of that, that's where he gets worked up. And
at the end of the day, and it's not me.
John doesn't live rent free. In my head, John doesn't
do this. John doesn't do at the end of the day.
That's something valid to touch on because at the end
of the day, he was accused and proven that he
did those things. There's proof. There's proof. So if I'm
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Tom Aspinall, I'm staying down this path. I am not
getting off of it. I'm going to continue down this path,
continue to mess with Dad to hopefully upset him. You know,
Tom has also said he's gonna be on reserve for
New York City. A lot will be learned about these
three heavyweights as we get closer to Madison Square Garden.
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Because if somebody gets hurt and then the next guy
doesn't want to fight Aspinall, it's a problem. It's different
because do you call last year Tom Asperall was ready
our Sergey Pavlovich honestly was on standby for or if
someone got hurt, John got hurt. Step A didn't fight
Sergey Pavlovitch. So to me, it just feels like these
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two legends want to fight each other, and nobody else
who am I or who has been asking who are
we to judge the fact that these dudes have put
in enough good will with the Bass that they get
to make a choice that they want to fight each other.
Dana seems so stubborn on this fight that I don't
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know if it changes. But tom asbnall sitting and waiting
and tom asbnall saying I will be in shape, I
will be ready to go, and now having this where
they're having these like hey, John Jones, when he gets
mad and he starts to show his true self, he
wants to insult you, And right now he's insulting tom
asbnall by saying that he's blowing him every week. Right,
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the insults get a little nastier. I know this because
I lived it. Nobody else can tell you this at
this level. Because I lived it, I know what the
insults look like when you start to get to him.
I am telling you guys, right now, he is starting
to get to him, starting to get to John Jones,
and when you get to him, that's when you possibly
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get to fight. Hey, and look, in my case, it
didn't work out. I got what I wanted and it
did not work out. But we don't know what's gonna
happen with this dude. This dude's young, he's hungry, he's
big as all can be, and he seems like he
wants to fight this dude. So I'm interested to see
what comes as I'm interested to see what comes of
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this old John Jones, Tom Aspinall deal that seems to
be picking up steam, and I'm here for it. I'm
here for it. Dana White made a big announcement yesterday
talking about he's got big fights coming up for Chandler, Volk,
Charles and Connor. Surprisingly, he said that Connor was not
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gonna fight in this calendar year. Still is no card
for December. Vegas is where the fight car will take
place in December. Connor McGregor needs to fight in Vegas.
He will fight Michael Chandler. Seemingly so. It seems as
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though when the boss went publicans then it started to say, eh,
well this guy's not fighting. It almost let a fire
in Connor McGregor it seems like we're getting closer and closer.
And then if you listen in the words it said
Charles versus Volk, I've got big news Charles versus Volk.
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Make that and sign me up if those two are
fighting each other, because that's one of those fights that
is guaranteed to be explosive. Last thing. So I was
with Umar and Omega met off the other day. I go,
why don't you or why didn't you just say I'll
be the backup fighter for al Jamain Sterling versus h
Not Aljamin Sterling. He's not the champ. It's a Charlot
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versus marab daw Wallace Pheley. He goes, why would I
be the backup fighter when I am already the best
in the world. That's his thought, that's his belief. So
he's not gonna be the backup guy. But as we know,
there are backup fighters tied to every single fight in
championship nowadays. Who's the guy? Who's the guy? That's the
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question we should all be asking. Why are we not
asking who's the backup fighter? Marob way In whenever Al
Jamaine fought Sean SERGEI was gonna weigh in when Steve
a was fighting John Chandler when he first got a
look at that thumb up thing that I always do.
Chandler when he first got here, wayed In and Abu
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Dabi when Justin could be fought. I think that's what
it was our Islam versus Charles. There's always people that
weigh in. Do you know what it was? It was?
It was a gamrod I think was the backup when
when Islam fought last year against volk Or he was
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going to be the backup with Islam and Charles, but
then Volk ended up stepping in for him, Which doesn't
make much sense. If the backup fight is still available,
why are you bringing another guy? But it is what
it is. There's always a backup. Why who are not
on standby? Who's the backup of this fight at the
sphere that's the biggest fight card that they've ever paid for.
There's got to be a backup. We need to find
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out who it is. Guys. Hey, things are picking up
at heavyweight. I think we're closer today to John Jones
and I'm Tom aspinall fighting than we've ever been. Because
I'm telling you, I don't know John Jones personally I
don't know him like that, but I do know him
in beef, and in beef, disrespect is always what gets
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you closer to fighting him. Tom Asperall's being disrespectful now,
and I think that is gonna work for his advantage
in terms of getting this fight. Even if John goes
through and fights Steepe, he might stick around to try
to deal with the Tom Aspinall issue. If you're in
the time, if you're in the John Jones camp, the
issue has become tom Aspinall because of the disrespect. But hey,
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I don't mind the disrespect. The disrespect makes the fight fun.
And these two dudes are disrespecting each other and I'm
here for all right. Guys, thank you as always for joining.
I appreciate your love and support. Until next time, like,
subscribe and tell your friends about my YouTube channel because
we drop it stuff like this. Hey, and only I
know how to deal with Jones because I'm the only
one that had ro beef with him. Till next time,
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