September 2, 2024 • 40 mins
John reacts to USC's big win over LSU and dives into how impressed he was with Lincoln Riley and the Trojans (8:06). Later, John dives into some of the top college football games from the weekend and what his biggest standouts were. (20:46)
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Happy football returning. Hello everybody, this is John and this
is the three and Now podcast. I just watched Lincoln
Riley shut your boy up and win a massive, massive
game in Viva Las Vegas. That's what Lincoln's singing right now,
(02:03):
Probably the cocktail on the team bus, because unlike Lane
Kiffin who got left on the tarmac, they are going
to be celebrating on the tarmac. Incredible win for the Trojans,
Miller Moss, Danton Lynn, the new defensive coordinator, his dad
Anthony Lynz, got to be really proud. That was a
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different USC team than we saw last year, so we'll
dive into the game on just usc because that was massive.
Fun to have him back a little bit. And LSU
man Brian Kelly. He's lost to Florida State back to
back years in opening games. Last year he got demolished.
Remember when Keon Coleman had like ten touchdowns against him
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and then he lost this game. This was much closer
clearly than last one, but not the end of the
world because of the twelve team playoff. But it's I
don't know if I see him as a playoff team.
So we'll dive in thoughts on the game. And then
I watched a ton of football Georgia, Georgia, Clemson, A
lot of takes on Dabblo Sweeney flying around. I think
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people are over complicating a little bit. Comes down to
one position, which he's not getting right right now. Miami
destroyed Florida. That job is gonna come open here soon.
A and m Notre Dame, some of the young quarterbacks.
I saw some of the prospects for the draft. I mean,
the popularity of college football right now is just it's
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a an all time high. I mean, these games, the
ratings on these games, you're talking nine million people watching
nine am kickoff West coast time. Now, maybe a lot
of those people are on the East coast, but holy moley,
these they are getting people fired up. And I kind
of want to talk about that. How the popularity of football,
the NFL, college, the draft, the combine, it's just all
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kind of interconnected and it's just thriving. I mean it
had I was glued. I watched football Thursday night, Friday night,
got up Saturday morning, did a little gym break, still
watch football at the gym on the treadmill, came home,
watch more football. I was watching football last night till
I was eleven thirty at night because the Arizona game
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prices guaranteed. Okay, let's dive into the story of the night.
It's Lincoln Riley and I'll take d l I'll take
the egg on my face. I thought they were six
and six, seven and five team. I thought they were
a team that was gonna have major issues, right, I
mean last year what we witnessed was like an NBA
team that to win games depended on their star player
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to score forty five and fifty a night. And they
had Caleb Williams and sometimes he could do it and
sometimes he couldn't. But defensively they couldn't tackle anybody. They
were bad. I mean they were in really USC's defense
now has been bad for a while. But the transformation
that will dive into Miller Moss, who definitely surprised me.
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Like most people, he had never really played. You didn't
know what to make of it. Anytime you have a
young quarterback, I think the jury is out until they
prove it. But the story of the night was the
defense and hiring Anthony Lynn's son. I got news for you,
Danton Lynn. If they look like that all season long,
he's going to be a college head coach next year.
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He's coached in the NFL. He works for the Ravens.
He excelled for Chip Kelly last year at UCLA. His
star pass rusher went in the top twenty to Indy
Latu and tonight, whatever the hell he was doing and
preaching for the last seven eight months worked. They showed
the visuals of these guys bodies part of it with
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USC and I listen some of US US West Coasters go,
I don't think you realized how physical and big Pete
Carroll's team was. I understand it's a long time ago,
but they were massive. They dominated on defense. It's why
they ran the country. It wasn't offense clearly with sexy.
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They had Reggie Bush and Matt Lioner, win a Heismans,
But defensively they had first round picks in every unit.
They had a ton of them on at linebacker and
a defensive line. They hit you right in the teeth
and then Lincoln Riley comes, You're like, these guys look
like me, Like, how are you gonna beat anyone with
a bunch of little, tiny dudes, and then they show
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tonight the transformation. I guess they stole some guy from
Vanderbilt and that worked. The strength program whatever. They're feeding
these kids, the jamba juices, the protein shakes, the body types.
Guys were going from two thirty five to two sixty
and just on television, it jumped off the screen. The
other thing was the open field tackling. USC has tackled
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like a Mountain West team for years, and it's like,
we hold them to such high esteem because of the program,
because of the history, because they give Lincoln Riley one
hundred and twenty million dollars. And then they're playing Arizona
and they can't tackle anybody. You're like, what's happening? And
you watch tonight that first drive of the game, You're like, God,
I don't know. And then they settled in and they
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consistently tackled all night long. So Lincoln Riley makes a change,
a defensive coordinator, hires a crosstown rival.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
DC, and it immediately paid dividends. I mean, they're playing
a team that has I'm texting around trying to get
the draft grades on these guys. The left tackle will
Campbell for you, LSU top fifteen, pick the right tackle,
a little bit of a raw product, more likely a
first rounder.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Obviously their quarterback. I mean, to me, he looks like
an NFL guy. Lacy had to be the best third
wide receiver in the country last year, playing with Malik
Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior. I mean, that's a Jay
Daniels playing on an All Star team last year. And
they handled it, man, they did. And the other thing
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is because LSU travels so well. Despite it being in Vegas,
which is a four or five hour drive from southern California,
that was felt like an LSU home game. And for USC,
the pressure that program. I thought this before the game
kicked off. The pressure on these two coaches in this
game were a Mets. It's year three and this isn't
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like fifteen, twenty thirty years ago where it takes three
or four years to truly even evaluate a guy. You
can flip it like that. The transfer portal the world
is completely different. Your ability to flip a program has
never been easier because of the modern day rules. Brian
Kelly got ninety five million dollars. Lincoln Riley got one
hundred and twenty million dollars. The standard for these guys
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was like, oh, be competitive, win eight nine games. It
was like to win national championships in year one and two. Obviously,
last year for both guys, the defenses were horrendous. They
had the number one and number two overall quarterbacks in
the draft and neither one of them sniffed the final four.
USC had no shot and Brian Kelly couldn't stop a nosebleed.
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So you're like, there's tangible pressure in this game because
the twelve team playoff. It doesn't make or break your season.
But that's a for as great of a win that
is for Lincoln Riley, and that's a fantastic win. I mean,
that's that's as good as it's his best win at
You know it's a short tenure, but it's one of
the biggest wins of his career. I mean, there's no
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way around that. Right neutral site against LSU, when he's
an underdog, that was massive. It's equally a pretty big
loss for LSU. You know, you have all this talent.
Clearly defensively, they weren't as bad as they were last year,
but something's missing that they don't look like the dominant
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SEC program that you know, some of the teams that
Lest Miles had and obviously Nick Saban had, those days
are long gone. And you could argue maybe those days
are long gone just in general in college football. But
how does this team, I mean, nine and three feels
like best case scenario. And here's the problem. If USC's
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nine and three, which if you look at their schedule,
like they're going to drop a random game. To me,
the Notre Dame games kind of advantage Notre Dame Michigan
kind of a coin flip because Michigan's clearly not as good.
But let's just say they go nine to three and
LSU goes nine and three, and basically one of the
last playoff spots is between those two teams. Well, USC
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gets the spot to beat them straight up like that.
That's how it happens, right, I mean, that's what we
don't even need to argue that. And I thought if
USC lost this game, looking at their schedule, you know,
probably eight and four. I look at them now like
a nine and three team. And Miller Moss that was
really impressive. You know, my expectations for him were zero,
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didn't have any and they probably weren't positive. Halfway through
the game, you're like God, kind of like this guy.
By the end of the game, you're like God, that
guy's a gamer. Both the quarterbacks they played winning football.
I know Nussmeyer threw the pick at the end of
the game. And it's crazy is when my first year
at President State in two thousand and eight, Meyer, his
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dad was the offensive coordinator. I love Nuss I saw
him at the combine this year. He's currently the Eagles
quarterback coach. He he's been kind of Kellen Moore. Those
guys have been together since Dallas. He was a quarterback
coach for DAK and then he went to the Chargers
with Kellen and then he went with the Eagles. He's
a stud, so I was rooting for him. But some
about Brian Kelly not the most I don't know, easily
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rootable individual. Something just a little off. He's always kind
of screaming at people. But the expectations for him, like
even if Lincoln had gone seven to five this year,
nothing's gonna happen to me. The Brian Kelly thing last
year was such a disappointment because their offense. It's impossible
to get better on offense. Their offense legitimately was like
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the Joe Burrow twenty nineteen year and I think statistically
it's like the greatest offense in the history of the sport.
But from a talent standpoint, very similar. Star wide receivers
Top five pick, another guy, top twenty five pick. Lacey's
probably a top fifty pick. Two tackles stars, quarterback NFL
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guy running backs like, I don't know you know one
thing that jumped out to me, and I'm not pretending
to be Kyle Shanahan or Sean mcvayh here, deep passes
and long breaking routes down the field, even when you
have great athletes are difficult to complete. One thing you
s se did a good job of tonight is some
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quick hitters across the middle. They got rid of the
ball fast out of Miller Moss's hands. Yet it felt
like in dougness Meyer or not Doug, but Garrett Nusmeyer's
statistics were really good, but they were asking him to
kind of play like Patrick Mahomes. Why don't you run
some quick hitting routes and let your great athletes, I
don't know, a seven yard out, Well, if the guy
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breaks a tackle, it turns into forty yards run a
slant route. If the safety takes a bad angle, could
be twenty six yards and they're just they're off and
it's a little weird. And they got going for a
little bit running the ball. But when you have two
NFL tackles, you think you could be pretty good, you know,
on the ground, like dominate on the ground. And maybe
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that's a testament to USC bulking up the defensive line
adding some guys in the transfer portal, USC has a guy.
This has to be the only time this has happened
during this transfer portal era, and I can't imagine it
happening anytime soon. Number eighty one Ford, the wide receiver,
started his career at USC, transferred to UCLA, and now
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he transferred back to USC. Like we've seen a lot
of guys do the three team transfer start somewhere, go
another place, go another place, But this guy came up.
Maybe home is where the heart is. Herbstreet mentioned it.
It is cool in this kind of day and age,
when all these guys are bouncing around left and right
and everyone's taking the most money. I don't blame them,
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but just two kids that got passed over had to
buy their time got to eventually start play their first game.
Notre Dame A and M did eight million people Uga,
Clemson did seven point nine in Miami, Florida did six
point six million on Saturday. I think it's fair to
say we're gonna have well over ten million people watching
that game. These two guys waited years as the backup
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get to play in front of I mean, it's gonna
be one of the highest rated games of the year,
giving it Sunday night, nothing else on TV, and both
of them excelled. What a cool moment for some of
the old school football guys. Listen, I'm not anti transfer portal,
but I also don't just think everyone jumping around like
there's a reason you're not starting. You know, it's like
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it's kind of cool to be the starting quarterback, Like
you got to go to USC and LSU like it's
kind of a big deal. Maybe one day it'll be
your turn, and when it is, it's pretty fucking badass.
So props of those two guys. But like I said, man,
what a win for Lincoln and Brian Kelly. Man, I
think right now you'd have to bet against them making
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the playoffs, right Ole Miss, I like Ole Miss Moore.
They definitely can be more prolific scoring wise Alabama, like
Kaylen Dubor was just in the National Championship. You could
argue Kaylen Dubor currently is a better coach than Brian
Kelly today. I know their resumes. Brian's accomplished a lot,
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but like today, who would you rather have Kaylan Duboor
or Brian Kelly? I take Kaylen du Boor. So LSU
still has a lot of question marks, even if their defense,
I guess looks a little bit better from the previous year.
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Let's hit on Davos Sweeney really quick because he's getting crushed.
Georgia just curb stomped him, I mean killed him, got
up early, was slamming coffee. The game kicks off, it
was kind of close for a half. You're like, and
I thought, you know, Clemson, they've recruited really well backs
against the wall. Not a soul in America that follows
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football thinks they have a chance. I'm like, I eventually,
aren't you gonna play one of these games close? They
kind of did, and then they didn't, and they got
boat raced. And after every person that covers college football,
former players, media people are crushing Dabbo for the transfer
portal thing, and I think they said during the game
that Georgia might be eleven. It's one of their bigger
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transfer portal classes of the Kirby tenure. The problem is
not the transfer portal. Obviously he should utilize that and
it would help. But the thing that has derailed Clemson
as a program is quarterback play. He won a national
championship with Deshaun Watson. He won a national championship with
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Trevor Lawrence. Before Deshaun Watson, you know, ran off every
massage therapist in the state of Texas and his body
started failing him, and Trevor Lawrence will see how good
he was or turns out to be. Still a lot
of question marks. There was the number one pick in
the draft, and Deshaun Watson was a guy after like
three years every team in the league except like three
or four would have wanted. So those guys are legit
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NFL dudes. Leaving Dabos Sweeney. From there, he went to
dj Ungoulea who everything I've heard, nice guy, probably an
XFL player, And then he thought he was upgrading with
Club Nick, who might just not be very good and
for the transfer portal, adding a guard here, a safety here,
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not disputing that would not help. It helps Bama, it
helps Ohio State, it helps USC it helps you should
utilize that. But when your quarterback play sucks or is
not good enough against other NFL quarterbacks on other college teams,
like Georgia has and that ultimately wasn't the difference in
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the game because Clemson was just overmat but they had
no shot as the game went on with that quarterback
none silch. So like Scott Frost I saw today, just
got hired. Who hired him? Oh the Rams. Scott Frost,
who had no equity with Nebraska beside he'd been a
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successful coach right at UCF and had played it in Nebraska,
but he didn't add an equity of like taking them
to ten and eleven win seasons, kind of staked it
all on Adrian Martinez and then it failed because Adrian
Martinez turns out wasn't any good. So what happened, Scott
Frost got fired. So usually coaches in this position get
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fired when they keep missing on the quarterback. Now, dabble
is so much equity going to three national championships, winning
a couple dominating for a while, but it's not going
that well right now. And to me, everyone can talk
about the transfer portal, but I promise you, when your
quarterback is not good, you could have ten NFL guys
next to them still gonna be You're gonna have problems
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in the tight games. So Georgia looks like a dominant program,
Yeah they are, but they also have an NFL quarterback
who looks pretty damn good. Clemson does not same thing
with Florida. Like, why is Billy Napier gonna get run
out of town? Well, his team's not very good, but
the quarterback play, it's just like cam Ward was was
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many thought the number one guy in the transfer portal,
got a bunch of money to go to Miami, played
at Washington State, super freak right, can run huge arm
to make a mistake here there, But like his good
is really good. What happens Miami goes They've dominated the
transfer portal, They recruit well because Miami, because Mario is
a great recruiter, and they kill Florida. They dominate him.
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And now I think big picture of the question mark
is Florida's gonna open up. And an article came out
about Lank Kiffin hasn't had a drink in three and
a half years as a new man. I don't think
that was a random article. I think he's trying to
change the perception nationally. Now. Part of it his daughter
goes to Ole Miss. He wants him to stay. It
sounds great, but I've been doing this long enough, and
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again these articles matter because the perception on Lane, like
he wanted the organ job a couple of years ago,
they wouldn't give him the time of day, wouldn't entertain HM,
because there's a lot of some question marks, but those
have kind of subsided. He said, listen, no drinking anymore,
no screwing around. Florida has an opportunity to be one
of the best jobs in the country, and clearly Lane's
killing it. Old Miss. They're gonna be I mean, they
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are good, and that's just something I'm keeping an eye on.
Big picture Lane Kiffin Florida, maybe he just stays it
Old Miss for the rest of his career. I would say,
eventually Florida is gonna have to get really, really serious.
And when you start looking around, like what are they
gonna do? Go after Urban Meyer, I would say Urban
is dramatically more toxic after some of the situation. Even
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at Jacksonville, he hasn't coach in a while, like Lane
currently is kicking ass to take the names. I'm not
saying Florida would turn down Urban, but doesn't Lane make
way more sense now? And who I might even know
if Urban would want the job. One thing that is very,
very evident is the young quarterback play all over the country.
I looked at arch Manning's class the top five quarterbacks.
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Number one was arch Manning, who doesn't get to play
because Texas quin yours. Number two was Nico. I can't
say his last name, but Tennessee starting quarterback from Los Angeles.
I got news for you. If you haven't seen him yet,
just YouTube some of his throws from last week. You're
gonna see him throughout this season. It's his first year starting.
I guess he started the bowl game. He's a big
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time player. Some of these guys. For a lot of
my life, most quarterbacks in college I felt like had
average arms. They were just like they were like this,
this is not NFL. When you just flip around the channels.
Now you go to like Tennessee, you're like this nineteen
year old guy named Nico is throwing ninety nine mile
an hour bullets. I go to Nebraska. Riola, he's throwing
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just darts. I watched Oklahoma. It was either Thursday or
Friday night. Jackson Arnold, who listen, Dylan Gabriel is an
excellent player. Oregon starting quarterback. Oklahoma told him he was
not gonna start anymore. They were going with Jackson Arnold,
who was fifth in the class behind Arch Manning Nico,
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who am I missing? Dante Moore who is now the
backup to Dylan Gabriel at Oregon, who was at UCLA
last year. And number four is the guy Malachi Nelson
started at USC Lincoln ran him out of town, went
to Boise and he couldn't even win the job. So
can't hit on them all, but that class looks like
he's got a chance. Three of the four guys pretty
talented and who knows what to wait and see with Arch,
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but Jackson, Arnold and Riola. You talked about the ability
to move throws down the field, accuracy, They got some swag,
they got some like panache. They just got some shit
to them there. They're just a very same with Nico,
just a very very enjoy easy watch very easy watch. Historically,
a lot of these guys sometimes they were at some
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of these schools that were throwing up a bunch of points,
like a Mike Leach school a Hawaii. Now these guys,
and I think a lot has to do with seven
on seven camps. These guys are throwing a lot of
these guys only play football. You know, people my age
in their late thirties, forties, fifties, if you were a
great athlete, you played at all, you're on the football.
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If you're the quarterback, then you probably played. You're the
point guard of the shooting guard, and then you were
the short stop. Most of these guys now quit the
other sports and just play football. I saw Nico actually
played a little volleyball on the side. Check out his
volleyball highlights. They look incredible. But these guys master their craft.
It's like Tiger Woods, Like, what was Tiger Woods doing
when he was fourteen? He was just playing golf. He
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was isolating at the sport, which obviously is very unhealthy
for ninety nine percent of people because you're never going
to play pass high school. But when you have like
pro potential like these kids, it can be a huge advantage.
Especially you know you love it and you're an addict.
You're not gonna burn out. You hit the ground running
and you look like a star. So the young quarterback
talent in this country right now, these guys aren't even
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draft eligible right, not even draft eligible, and they just
look like stuts some of the guys that are draft eligible.
Arizona's wide receiver McMillan. He's just a massive guy with
incredible ball skills who can make people miss and dominated
on Saturday night. He had three hundred and four yards
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and four touchdowns and honestly, it felt like more. And
everyone I've talked to in the NFL, there's only one
question mark on him, is like true top end speed
right to be like a top two or three overall pick.
You know, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, these guys had elite speed.
Malik Daghbors. Last year you've seen like trying to think
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guys in Julio Jones. But I think he's got a
very very good chance to be a top ten wide
receiver or a top ten player in this draft and
wide receiver and be the number one wide receiver off
the board. Travis Hunter in Colorado, Chadour I think there's
no disputing and Colorado plays in Nebraska this week. Talk
about a great game Riola for Shador Dion at you know,
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you know Elmaha. Wherever the hell a University of Nebraska is.
I don't think it's in Omaha, but Lincoln, Lincoln, Nebraska,
that that's gonna be must watch Shador. There's no arguing
that he has number one overall pick talent right the
arm strength, the accuracy, the mobility, obviously, the jeens he
comes from. He's he's a very very intriguing player, and
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I would say he's a lock top twenty pick as
of right now. But these next you know, ten games
playing real teams. He played North Dakota State, which is
an excellent program. You don't determine your draft stock out
of that. If I'm a GM watching you play in February,
I never even watched that game. Same thing with Travis Hunter. Now,
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Travis Hunter was already viewed as a top five pick,
like a borderline lock. I think the hard part with
Travis Hunter is all the scouts want him to play
corner rightfully, so it's way harder to find corners than
wide receivers. Look like the last five drafts. There's been
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an unlimited amount of wide receivers every year in like
the first round, let alone all the good players that
go in the second and third round. There haven't been
many high, high end plug and play Sauce, Gardner, Derek Singley, Tykes.
So they want him to play corner. The problem is,
if you're Travis Hunter, think about this. Brandon Ayuk who
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got seventy five balls, just signed, got seventy five million
dollars guaranteed. The money these wide receivers are making, it's
like thirty million plus a year the top corners. Now,
maybe that changes with Sauce and Stingley, and I would
guarantee this. Their agents are gonna try to change that,
as they should, but right now there's a big gap financially. Now,
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the rookie contracts all the same. Everyone makes the same
money right based on your slots, Like if you're drafted
number three overall, whether you play corner, left tackle, quarterback,
you're getting the same contract no matter what. But that
second contract is something to think about. My question is
can he really play both ways all season long and
do it at a high level. Last year he got hurt,
(29:30):
kind of ran out of gas. Clearly, I think they're
gonna try it. What does that look like when they
play Arizona and he's going up against a top ten
wide receiver and he's also playing all the snaps on offense.
He's like the show Heyo Tani for college football. It's
the most remarkable thing I've ever seen. We've seen a
(29:51):
lot of guys quote unquote slashes right a defensive player
that would get some offensive snaps. It was usually that way.
You don't see many offensive players also get and defensive snaps.
But Dionn Charles Woodson, guys to a defense, got to
play a little offense. This guy goes both ways. It's
like high school. It's like if you just went to
(30:11):
like Alabama or LSU or Ohio State's best high school
recruit this year at a skill position like wide receiver
or corner, I guarantee you they're going both ways. I
play running back and I play linebacker, or I play
wide receiver and I play safety, and I never come
off the field beside special teams. That's what this guy's
fucking doing. It's insane to watch, and some of his
highlight plays it was sweet. So Colorado they're an entertaining watch.
(30:38):
You can't argue that it's just they're playing on TV
against a real team. I want to watch. Will Johnson,
speaking of top corners, if Travis decided to play corner,
and who knows if he ever even quote unquote declares,
maybe he just goes into the draft as an athlete.
Will Johnson I think is viewed as the top corner
(30:58):
right there with Travis Hunter had an unreal pick six
against President State. Who give the Dogs some credit. They
went in to an arbor defending champs. Granted they had
an entirely new team and a new coach. Dogs have
my guy, Tim Skipper. They were right in the game,
but Michigan had a little bit more. Michigan's gonna have
some issues on offense. Quarterback play pretty big question mark,
(31:21):
but their defense is really good. And Will Johnson, I
don't know how quote unquote long he is, but he's
he's a top fifteen corner. I would imagine anything else.
It really is crazy the popularity right now of the
sport of football, and whether that's gambling, whether that's you know,
(31:42):
kind of the fantasy football generation of people wanting to
watch star wide receiver, star quarterbacks, but seeing some of
these numbers. Eight point two million people watching Notre Dame
A and M, eight million people watching Georgia Clemson. If
you told me twelve million people watch tonight, I believe
(32:02):
you like college football. And Collins's been talking about this
for a long time. Is it used to be so regional, right?
It was just the South was having so much success. Well,
now the South is cool. Nico Tennessee quarterback from Los Angeles,
Georgia's leading Russier against Clemson from Los Angeles, all these guys,
it was a big deal. I remember growing up if
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one of our star high school recruits in northern California
left the pac twelve Brady did it to Michigan. DJ
Williams did it to Miami. But for the most part,
you know, if you weren't going to USC, UCLA, calor Stanford,
you know, you Oregon or Washington, maybe Colorado, but you
(32:45):
didn't go you were going to Alabama or Georgia. Now
look at Georgia. They're starting a running back. It's from
Los Angeles. Brock Bowers is from Napa. I've been saying
this for a while. Saban changed the game financially for
all these coaches, because college football has become more popular,
and he was the leading bus driver for the success.
(33:08):
But he also made the SEC really cool. He made
it cool outside of the South, like I think it's cool.
Spent thirty seven years of my thirty nine years on
the West Coast, and I'm infatuated with the SEC has
the best players, right The SEC just resonates. And one
(33:29):
of the things in the tweet I saw about the
ratings Stuart Mandel, those were ABC games, Well, guess what
ABC did? They bought the SEC. Now their song leading
into the SEC game may be pretty cheesy and maybe
pretty bad, but it's gonna work because this isn't just
(33:49):
people in Mississippi and Alabama and Arkansas watching these games.
I watched every second. I'm sure many people listening watch
bits and pieces of a lot of them. And we're
living all over the country. And when I look at
the SEC and the Big Ten, and this is gonna
be an argument, especially now because the power of the
two conferences, the SEC is much better now. I know
(34:12):
USC beat him the night and that was a big deal,
but I watched the Big Ten. Their quarterback play is
not great right now. Michigan's quarterback plays down and then
the random teams. And that's where the SEC that like
they're random teams have NFL quarterbacks because they've been stealing
so many of these quarterbacks from the West Coast. Where
did Lane Kiffin get his quarterback? Jackson dark USC? So
(34:36):
it's like, now text A and M's quarterback. He was
one of the worst players I saw all weekend long
for a good player, and I text a buddy in
the NFL. I'm like, what's the deal with these two quarterbacks?
He said? The two most overrated guys coming into the
season for quote unquote draft prospects now Leonard the duke
transfer for Notre Dame. He's like a poor poor man's
(34:59):
version Cam Newton. He's so big and he can run
guys over, but throwings very hit or miss. I don't
view that guy like an NFL thrower as of today.
An A and M's quarterback, I mean, look like he
should be at UC Davis. Now. The defense in those games,
and that's the other thing, the defense. Now the Big
ten has good defense too, but the physicality of the
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SEC right now and really all the Power five high
end schools is really high. And the hitting in that
game kind of felt like NFL light guys were getting crunched.
Notre Dame schedule a joke. They'll probably cruise the playoffs.
But that was an impressive win on the road. Now,
the other quarterback couldn't complete a pass to save his life,
(35:43):
but but still get wins. A win on the road
against an SEC team Oregon was pretty bad. I didn't
watch much of that game just because I don't even
think it matters. But overall, man, this is we got
a lot of NFL talent. And that's the other thing.
Rising tide lifts all boats. The popularity, it all bleeds
(36:03):
into each other, right, The NFL's popularity, the drafts popularity,
college football's popularity, they're all interconnected. Because when you're watching
tonight Garrett Nessmeyer like he's gonna get drafted. When you're
watching Lacey and the two tackles and some of the
dudes on USC and guys over the weekend in any
of the big games, you're like, that guy's an NFL player,
(36:25):
that guy's an NFL player. What rounds this guy gonna go?
And the power of that is just taking this all
to a new level. And we can add the gambling,
the fantasy and college doesn't really exist, but it's all
part of each other. It's all in the same you
know network, It's all under the same umbrella. And it's
why football is lapping everybody right now. You know, you
(36:47):
look at basketball, it's all disconnected. The best players in
the NBA are Euros, right aau is a joke. No
one cares about the g League. College basketball only matters
for the you know, the bracket. Baseball, It's just it's
all out of whack. But it all has to be interconnected.
I love golf. Talk about a sport that's all over
(37:10):
the map when everyone is connected. Even if college has
their issues, the NFL kind of has some of their issues.
I mean, I can't get over the more and more
I think that the NFL is playing a game in Brazil.
I'm not anti expansion, but just talking to some people,
it's absolutely ludicrous. I mean, it's insane that they're doing it.
(37:31):
It really is. As if you saw A. J. Brown's quote,
He's like, yeah, they kind of told us we can't
take our phone outside, Like I'm just gonna stay in
the hotel. Fucking the brazil guy just banned Twitter. It's like,
what are we doing? Just play the game in lambell
or Philly. And if you want to go international, go
to London. But you're going to fucking Brazil. What are
we trying to prove here? But regardless, I mean, we
(37:53):
can nitpick anything the NCAA. I haven't watched Connor Stallion's
documentary yet, but I did see some clips from the
NA chick that was grilling them. It's like I couldn't
even imagine even if I'm Connor Stallin's Stallions and guilty
taking her seriously, but regardless, Like the two entities got
some issues, but where they don't have issues is when
the game's on for four quarters. People all around this
(38:16):
country are glued. And I love football as much as most,
but I thought this weekend, the talent out there, the
entertainment value, the matchups been saying forever we need to
get rid of. We need lsu USC Like you shouldn't
be able to play maybe you know you can play
a Fresno State, a Boise, but playing some of these
(38:36):
like FBS schools. Listen, North Dakota State is really should
be in the Mountain West. But and they're good and
they would beat a lot of you know, Division I
schools but just in general, that practice needs to end.
We just need teams playing other real teams because that's
what the consumer wants. And when you give us awesome matchups, million,
(39:00):
millions of people are coming. So we know that these
television networks have more and more control because they're literally
paying for everything that they got to keep dropping the
hammer of Like for the three weeks buffer before we
start conference play, we got to play real games. I
don't even care if they're close, Like Oregon Idaho actually
(39:21):
was a close game. That game should not be allowed
to happen. It should not be allowed to happen, especially now.
I Idaho bumped down divisions. When I was at Freslo State,
they were they were in the whack. They're not even
that anymore. They were a FBS or FCS. I get
those mixed up. They were in the playoffs. I think
they lost in the first round. They're playing like Sack State,
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you know, in South Dakota State and Montana State. I
have a lot of respect for those programs, but they
shouldn't be allowed to play these teams. And this is
why I think we're inevitably headed toward the big kind
of NFL style college football like in the NFL, you
only play o their NFL teams, right, Power five teams
(40:03):
should only play their Power five teams, or you get
one group of five a year, you know, or whatever,
but you should not be able to play some of
the teams that some of these schools are playing. And
I understand some of these schedules are really hard. You know,
you look at whose schedule was I looking. I was
like Jesus might have been Georgia's or Ole miss some
of these SEC schedules and some of these Big ten
(40:25):
schedules are difficult. Right if you have to play Ohio State,
if you have to pay Penn State, if you have
to play Oregon, it's hard that that's not like playing
you know, random teams. But still we got to figure
that out. But overall, fantastic week and just I'm sweating.
I'm so excited. So glad college football's back. NFL is
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right around the corner, and let's rock and roll baby.
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Happy football returning. Hello everybody, this is John and this
is the three and Now podcast. I just watched Lincoln
Riley shut your boy up and win a massive, massive
game in Viva Las Vegas. That's what Lincoln's singing right now,
(02:03):
Probably the cocktail on the team bus, because unlike Lane
Kiffin who got left on the tarmac, they are going
to be celebrating on the tarmac. Incredible win for the Trojans,
Miller Moss, Danton Lynn, the new defensive coordinator, his dad
Anthony Lynz, got to be really proud. That was a
(02:25):
different USC team than we saw last year, so we'll
dive into the game on just usc because that was massive.
Fun to have him back a little bit. And LSU
man Brian Kelly. He's lost to Florida State back to
back years in opening games. Last year he got demolished.
Remember when Keon Coleman had like ten touchdowns against him
(02:46):
and then he lost this game. This was much closer
clearly than last one, but not the end of the
world because of the twelve team playoff. But it's I
don't know if I see him as a playoff team.
So we'll dive in thoughts on the game. And then
I watched a ton of football Georgia, Georgia, Clemson, A
lot of takes on Dabblo Sweeney flying around. I think
(03:08):
people are over complicating a little bit. Comes down to
one position, which he's not getting right right now. Miami
destroyed Florida. That job is gonna come open here soon.
A and m Notre Dame, some of the young quarterbacks.
I saw some of the prospects for the draft. I mean,
the popularity of college football right now is just it's
(03:31):
a an all time high. I mean, these games, the
ratings on these games, you're talking nine million people watching
nine am kickoff West coast time. Now, maybe a lot
of those people are on the East coast, but holy moley,
these they are getting people fired up. And I kind
of want to talk about that. How the popularity of football,
the NFL, college, the draft, the combine, it's just all
(03:55):
kind of interconnected and it's just thriving. I mean it
had I was glued. I watched football Thursday night, Friday night,
got up Saturday morning, did a little gym break, still
watch football at the gym on the treadmill, came home,
watch more football. I was watching football last night till
I was eleven thirty at night because the Arizona game
(04:17):
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(04:37):
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It's Lincoln Riley and I'll take d l I'll take
the egg on my face. I thought they were six
and six, seven and five team. I thought they were
a team that was gonna have major issues, right, I
mean last year what we witnessed was like an NBA
team that to win games depended on their star player
(06:27):
to score forty five and fifty a night. And they
had Caleb Williams and sometimes he could do it and
sometimes he couldn't. But defensively they couldn't tackle anybody. They
were bad. I mean they were in really USC's defense
now has been bad for a while. But the transformation
that will dive into Miller Moss, who definitely surprised me.
(06:50):
Like most people, he had never really played. You didn't
know what to make of it. Anytime you have a
young quarterback, I think the jury is out until they
prove it. But the story of the night was the
defense and hiring Anthony Lynn's son. I got news for you,
Danton Lynn. If they look like that all season long,
he's going to be a college head coach next year.
(07:12):
He's coached in the NFL. He works for the Ravens.
He excelled for Chip Kelly last year at UCLA. His
star pass rusher went in the top twenty to Indy
Latu and tonight, whatever the hell he was doing and
preaching for the last seven eight months worked. They showed
the visuals of these guys bodies part of it with
(07:33):
USC and I listen some of US US West Coasters go,
I don't think you realized how physical and big Pete
Carroll's team was. I understand it's a long time ago,
but they were massive. They dominated on defense. It's why
they ran the country. It wasn't offense clearly with sexy.
(07:54):
They had Reggie Bush and Matt Lioner, win a Heismans,
But defensively they had first round picks in every unit.
They had a ton of them on at linebacker and
a defensive line. They hit you right in the teeth
and then Lincoln Riley comes, You're like, these guys look
like me, Like, how are you gonna beat anyone with
a bunch of little, tiny dudes, and then they show
(08:15):
tonight the transformation. I guess they stole some guy from
Vanderbilt and that worked. The strength program whatever. They're feeding
these kids, the jamba juices, the protein shakes, the body types.
Guys were going from two thirty five to two sixty
and just on television, it jumped off the screen. The
other thing was the open field tackling. USC has tackled
(08:38):
like a Mountain West team for years, and it's like,
we hold them to such high esteem because of the program,
because of the history, because they give Lincoln Riley one
hundred and twenty million dollars. And then they're playing Arizona
and they can't tackle anybody. You're like, what's happening? And
you watch tonight that first drive of the game, You're like, God,
I don't know. And then they settled in and they
(09:00):
consistently tackled all night long. So Lincoln Riley makes a change,
a defensive coordinator, hires a crosstown rival.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
DC, and it immediately paid dividends. I mean, they're playing
a team that has I'm texting around trying to get
the draft grades on these guys. The left tackle will
Campbell for you, LSU top fifteen, pick the right tackle,
a little bit of a raw product, more likely a
first rounder.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Obviously their quarterback. I mean, to me, he looks like
an NFL guy. Lacy had to be the best third
wide receiver in the country last year, playing with Malik
Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior. I mean, that's a Jay
Daniels playing on an All Star team last year. And
they handled it, man, they did. And the other thing
(09:48):
is because LSU travels so well. Despite it being in Vegas,
which is a four or five hour drive from southern California,
that was felt like an LSU home game. And for USC,
the pressure that program. I thought this before the game
kicked off. The pressure on these two coaches in this
game were a Mets. It's year three and this isn't
(10:09):
like fifteen, twenty thirty years ago where it takes three
or four years to truly even evaluate a guy. You
can flip it like that. The transfer portal the world
is completely different. Your ability to flip a program has
never been easier because of the modern day rules. Brian
Kelly got ninety five million dollars. Lincoln Riley got one
hundred and twenty million dollars. The standard for these guys
(10:32):
was like, oh, be competitive, win eight nine games. It
was like to win national championships in year one and two. Obviously,
last year for both guys, the defenses were horrendous. They
had the number one and number two overall quarterbacks in
the draft and neither one of them sniffed the final four.
USC had no shot and Brian Kelly couldn't stop a nosebleed.
(10:56):
So you're like, there's tangible pressure in this game because
the twelve team playoff. It doesn't make or break your season.
But that's a for as great of a win that
is for Lincoln Riley, and that's a fantastic win. I mean,
that's that's as good as it's his best win at
You know it's a short tenure, but it's one of
the biggest wins of his career. I mean, there's no
(11:16):
way around that. Right neutral site against LSU, when he's
an underdog, that was massive. It's equally a pretty big
loss for LSU. You know, you have all this talent.
Clearly defensively, they weren't as bad as they were last year,
but something's missing that they don't look like the dominant
(11:37):
SEC program that you know, some of the teams that
Lest Miles had and obviously Nick Saban had, those days
are long gone. And you could argue maybe those days
are long gone just in general in college football. But
how does this team, I mean, nine and three feels
like best case scenario. And here's the problem. If USC's
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nine and three, which if you look at their schedule,
like they're going to drop a random game. To me,
the Notre Dame games kind of advantage Notre Dame Michigan
kind of a coin flip because Michigan's clearly not as good.
But let's just say they go nine to three and
LSU goes nine and three, and basically one of the
last playoff spots is between those two teams. Well, USC
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gets the spot to beat them straight up like that.
That's how it happens, right, I mean, that's what we
don't even need to argue that. And I thought if
USC lost this game, looking at their schedule, you know,
probably eight and four. I look at them now like
a nine and three team. And Miller Moss that was
really impressive. You know, my expectations for him were zero,
(12:40):
didn't have any and they probably weren't positive. Halfway through
the game, you're like God, kind of like this guy.
By the end of the game, you're like God, that
guy's a gamer. Both the quarterbacks they played winning football.
I know Nussmeyer threw the pick at the end of
the game. And it's crazy is when my first year
at President State in two thousand and eight, Meyer, his
(13:01):
dad was the offensive coordinator. I love Nuss I saw
him at the combine this year. He's currently the Eagles
quarterback coach. He he's been kind of Kellen Moore. Those
guys have been together since Dallas. He was a quarterback
coach for DAK and then he went to the Chargers
with Kellen and then he went with the Eagles. He's
a stud, so I was rooting for him. But some
about Brian Kelly not the most I don't know, easily
(13:25):
rootable individual. Something just a little off. He's always kind
of screaming at people. But the expectations for him, like
even if Lincoln had gone seven to five this year,
nothing's gonna happen to me. The Brian Kelly thing last
year was such a disappointment because their offense. It's impossible
to get better on offense. Their offense legitimately was like
(13:48):
the Joe Burrow twenty nineteen year and I think statistically
it's like the greatest offense in the history of the sport.
But from a talent standpoint, very similar. Star wide receivers
Top five pick, another guy, top twenty five pick. Lacey's
probably a top fifty pick. Two tackles stars, quarterback NFL
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guy running backs like, I don't know you know one
thing that jumped out to me, and I'm not pretending
to be Kyle Shanahan or Sean mcvayh here, deep passes
and long breaking routes down the field, even when you
have great athletes are difficult to complete. One thing you
s se did a good job of tonight is some
(14:29):
quick hitters across the middle. They got rid of the
ball fast out of Miller Moss's hands. Yet it felt
like in dougness Meyer or not Doug, but Garrett Nusmeyer's
statistics were really good, but they were asking him to
kind of play like Patrick Mahomes. Why don't you run
some quick hitting routes and let your great athletes, I
don't know, a seven yard out, Well, if the guy
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breaks a tackle, it turns into forty yards run a
slant route. If the safety takes a bad angle, could
be twenty six yards and they're just they're off and
it's a little weird. And they got going for a
little bit running the ball. But when you have two
NFL tackles, you think you could be pretty good, you know,
on the ground, like dominate on the ground. And maybe
(15:11):
that's a testament to USC bulking up the defensive line
adding some guys in the transfer portal, USC has a guy.
This has to be the only time this has happened
during this transfer portal era, and I can't imagine it
happening anytime soon. Number eighty one Ford, the wide receiver,
started his career at USC, transferred to UCLA, and now
(15:34):
he transferred back to USC. Like we've seen a lot
of guys do the three team transfer start somewhere, go
another place, go another place, But this guy came up.
Maybe home is where the heart is. Herbstreet mentioned it.
It is cool in this kind of day and age,
when all these guys are bouncing around left and right
and everyone's taking the most money. I don't blame them,
(15:55):
but just two kids that got passed over had to
buy their time got to eventually start play their first game.
Notre Dame A and M did eight million people Uga,
Clemson did seven point nine in Miami, Florida did six
point six million on Saturday. I think it's fair to
say we're gonna have well over ten million people watching
that game. These two guys waited years as the backup
(16:18):
get to play in front of I mean, it's gonna
be one of the highest rated games of the year,
giving it Sunday night, nothing else on TV, and both
of them excelled. What a cool moment for some of
the old school football guys. Listen, I'm not anti transfer portal,
but I also don't just think everyone jumping around like
there's a reason you're not starting. You know, it's like
(16:39):
it's kind of cool to be the starting quarterback, Like
you got to go to USC and LSU like it's
kind of a big deal. Maybe one day it'll be
your turn, and when it is, it's pretty fucking badass.
So props of those two guys. But like I said, man,
what a win for Lincoln and Brian Kelly. Man, I
think right now you'd have to bet against them making
(17:00):
the playoffs, right Ole Miss, I like Ole Miss Moore.
They definitely can be more prolific scoring wise Alabama, like
Kaylen Dubor was just in the National Championship. You could
argue Kaylen Dubor currently is a better coach than Brian
Kelly today. I know their resumes. Brian's accomplished a lot,
(17:20):
but like today, who would you rather have Kaylan Duboor
or Brian Kelly? I take Kaylen du Boor. So LSU
still has a lot of question marks, even if their defense,
I guess looks a little bit better from the previous year.
(17:44):
Let's hit on Davos Sweeney really quick because he's getting crushed.
Georgia just curb stomped him, I mean killed him, got
up early, was slamming coffee. The game kicks off, it
was kind of close for a half. You're like, and
I thought, you know, Clemson, they've recruited really well backs
against the wall. Not a soul in America that follows
(18:05):
football thinks they have a chance. I'm like, I eventually,
aren't you gonna play one of these games close? They
kind of did, and then they didn't, and they got
boat raced. And after every person that covers college football,
former players, media people are crushing Dabbo for the transfer
portal thing, and I think they said during the game
that Georgia might be eleven. It's one of their bigger
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transfer portal classes of the Kirby tenure. The problem is
not the transfer portal. Obviously he should utilize that and
it would help. But the thing that has derailed Clemson
as a program is quarterback play. He won a national
championship with Deshaun Watson. He won a national championship with
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Trevor Lawrence. Before Deshaun Watson, you know, ran off every
massage therapist in the state of Texas and his body
started failing him, and Trevor Lawrence will see how good
he was or turns out to be. Still a lot
of question marks. There was the number one pick in
the draft, and Deshaun Watson was a guy after like
three years every team in the league except like three
or four would have wanted. So those guys are legit
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NFL dudes. Leaving Dabos Sweeney. From there, he went to
dj Ungoulea who everything I've heard, nice guy, probably an
XFL player, And then he thought he was upgrading with
Club Nick, who might just not be very good and
for the transfer portal, adding a guard here, a safety here,
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not disputing that would not help. It helps Bama, it
helps Ohio State, it helps USC it helps you should
utilize that. But when your quarterback play sucks or is
not good enough against other NFL quarterbacks on other college teams,
like Georgia has and that ultimately wasn't the difference in
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the game because Clemson was just overmat but they had
no shot as the game went on with that quarterback
none silch. So like Scott Frost I saw today, just
got hired. Who hired him? Oh the Rams. Scott Frost,
who had no equity with Nebraska beside he'd been a
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successful coach right at UCF and had played it in Nebraska,
but he didn't add an equity of like taking them
to ten and eleven win seasons, kind of staked it
all on Adrian Martinez and then it failed because Adrian
Martinez turns out wasn't any good. So what happened, Scott
Frost got fired. So usually coaches in this position get
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fired when they keep missing on the quarterback. Now, dabble
is so much equity going to three national championships, winning
a couple dominating for a while, but it's not going
that well right now. And to me, everyone can talk
about the transfer portal, but I promise you, when your
quarterback is not good, you could have ten NFL guys
next to them still gonna be You're gonna have problems
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in the tight games. So Georgia looks like a dominant program,
Yeah they are, but they also have an NFL quarterback
who looks pretty damn good. Clemson does not same thing
with Florida. Like, why is Billy Napier gonna get run
out of town? Well, his team's not very good, but
the quarterback play, it's just like cam Ward was was
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many thought the number one guy in the transfer portal,
got a bunch of money to go to Miami, played
at Washington State, super freak right, can run huge arm
to make a mistake here there, But like his good
is really good. What happens Miami goes They've dominated the
transfer portal, They recruit well because Miami, because Mario is
a great recruiter, and they kill Florida. They dominate him.
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And now I think big picture of the question mark
is Florida's gonna open up. And an article came out
about Lank Kiffin hasn't had a drink in three and
a half years as a new man. I don't think
that was a random article. I think he's trying to
change the perception nationally. Now. Part of it his daughter
goes to Ole Miss. He wants him to stay. It
sounds great, but I've been doing this long enough, and
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again these articles matter because the perception on Lane, like
he wanted the organ job a couple of years ago,
they wouldn't give him the time of day, wouldn't entertain HM,
because there's a lot of some question marks, but those
have kind of subsided. He said, listen, no drinking anymore,
no screwing around. Florida has an opportunity to be one
of the best jobs in the country, and clearly Lane's
killing it. Old Miss. They're gonna be I mean, they
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are good, and that's just something I'm keeping an eye on.
Big picture Lane Kiffin Florida, maybe he just stays it
Old Miss for the rest of his career. I would say,
eventually Florida is gonna have to get really, really serious.
And when you start looking around, like what are they
gonna do? Go after Urban Meyer, I would say Urban
is dramatically more toxic after some of the situation. Even
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at Jacksonville, he hasn't coach in a while, like Lane
currently is kicking ass to take the names. I'm not
saying Florida would turn down Urban, but doesn't Lane make
way more sense now? And who I might even know
if Urban would want the job. One thing that is very,
very evident is the young quarterback play all over the country.
I looked at arch Manning's class the top five quarterbacks.
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Number one was arch Manning, who doesn't get to play
because Texas quin yours. Number two was Nico. I can't
say his last name, but Tennessee starting quarterback from Los Angeles.
I got news for you. If you haven't seen him yet,
just YouTube some of his throws from last week. You're
gonna see him throughout this season. It's his first year starting.
I guess he started the bowl game. He's a big
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time player. Some of these guys. For a lot of
my life, most quarterbacks in college I felt like had
average arms. They were just like they were like this,
this is not NFL. When you just flip around the channels.
Now you go to like Tennessee, you're like this nineteen
year old guy named Nico is throwing ninety nine mile
an hour bullets. I go to Nebraska. Riola, he's throwing
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just darts. I watched Oklahoma. It was either Thursday or
Friday night. Jackson Arnold, who listen, Dylan Gabriel is an
excellent player. Oregon starting quarterback. Oklahoma told him he was
not gonna start anymore. They were going with Jackson Arnold,
who was fifth in the class behind Arch Manning Nico,
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who am I missing? Dante Moore who is now the
backup to Dylan Gabriel at Oregon, who was at UCLA
last year. And number four is the guy Malachi Nelson
started at USC Lincoln ran him out of town, went
to Boise and he couldn't even win the job. So
can't hit on them all, but that class looks like
he's got a chance. Three of the four guys pretty
talented and who knows what to wait and see with Arch,
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but Jackson, Arnold and Riola. You talked about the ability
to move throws down the field, accuracy, They got some swag,
they got some like panache. They just got some shit
to them there. They're just a very same with Nico,
just a very very enjoy easy watch very easy watch. Historically,
a lot of these guys sometimes they were at some
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of these schools that were throwing up a bunch of points,
like a Mike Leach school a Hawaii. Now these guys,
and I think a lot has to do with seven
on seven camps. These guys are throwing a lot of
these guys only play football. You know, people my age
in their late thirties, forties, fifties, if you were a
great athlete, you played at all, you're on the football.
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If you're the quarterback, then you probably played. You're the
point guard of the shooting guard, and then you were
the short stop. Most of these guys now quit the
other sports and just play football. I saw Nico actually
played a little volleyball on the side. Check out his
volleyball highlights. They look incredible. But these guys master their craft.
It's like Tiger Woods, Like, what was Tiger Woods doing
when he was fourteen? He was just playing golf. He
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was isolating at the sport, which obviously is very unhealthy
for ninety nine percent of people because you're never going
to play pass high school. But when you have like
pro potential like these kids, it can be a huge advantage.
Especially you know you love it and you're an addict.
You're not gonna burn out. You hit the ground running
and you look like a star. So the young quarterback
talent in this country right now, these guys aren't even
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draft eligible right, not even draft eligible, and they just
look like stuts some of the guys that are draft eligible.
Arizona's wide receiver McMillan. He's just a massive guy with
incredible ball skills who can make people miss and dominated
on Saturday night. He had three hundred and four yards
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and four touchdowns and honestly, it felt like more. And
everyone I've talked to in the NFL, there's only one
question mark on him, is like true top end speed
right to be like a top two or three overall pick.
You know, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, these guys had elite speed.
Malik Daghbors. Last year you've seen like trying to think
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guys in Julio Jones. But I think he's got a
very very good chance to be a top ten wide
receiver or a top ten player in this draft and
wide receiver and be the number one wide receiver off
the board. Travis Hunter in Colorado, Chadour I think there's
no disputing and Colorado plays in Nebraska this week. Talk
about a great game Riola for Shador Dion at you know,
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you know Elmaha. Wherever the hell a University of Nebraska is.
I don't think it's in Omaha, but Lincoln, Lincoln, Nebraska,
that that's gonna be must watch Shador. There's no arguing
that he has number one overall pick talent right the
arm strength, the accuracy, the mobility, obviously, the jeens he
comes from. He's he's a very very intriguing player, and
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I would say he's a lock top twenty pick as
of right now. But these next you know, ten games
playing real teams. He played North Dakota State, which is
an excellent program. You don't determine your draft stock out
of that. If I'm a GM watching you play in February,
I never even watched that game. Same thing with Travis Hunter. Now,
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Travis Hunter was already viewed as a top five pick,
like a borderline lock. I think the hard part with
Travis Hunter is all the scouts want him to play
corner rightfully, so it's way harder to find corners than
wide receivers. Look like the last five drafts. There's been
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an unlimited amount of wide receivers every year in like
the first round, let alone all the good players that
go in the second and third round. There haven't been
many high, high end plug and play Sauce, Gardner, Derek Singley, Tykes.
So they want him to play corner. The problem is,
if you're Travis Hunter, think about this. Brandon Ayuk who
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got seventy five balls, just signed, got seventy five million
dollars guaranteed. The money these wide receivers are making, it's
like thirty million plus a year the top corners. Now,
maybe that changes with Sauce and Stingley, and I would
guarantee this. Their agents are gonna try to change that,
as they should, but right now there's a big gap financially. Now,
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the rookie contracts all the same. Everyone makes the same
money right based on your slots, Like if you're drafted
number three overall, whether you play corner, left tackle, quarterback,
you're getting the same contract no matter what. But that
second contract is something to think about. My question is
can he really play both ways all season long and
do it at a high level. Last year he got hurt,
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kind of ran out of gas. Clearly, I think they're
gonna try it. What does that look like when they
play Arizona and he's going up against a top ten
wide receiver and he's also playing all the snaps on offense.
He's like the show Heyo Tani for college football. It's
the most remarkable thing I've ever seen. We've seen a
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lot of guys quote unquote slashes right a defensive player
that would get some offensive snaps. It was usually that way.
You don't see many offensive players also get and defensive snaps.
But Dionn Charles Woodson, guys to a defense, got to
play a little offense. This guy goes both ways. It's
like high school. It's like if you just went to
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like Alabama or LSU or Ohio State's best high school
recruit this year at a skill position like wide receiver
or corner, I guarantee you they're going both ways. I
play running back and I play linebacker, or I play
wide receiver and I play safety, and I never come
off the field beside special teams. That's what this guy's
fucking doing. It's insane to watch, and some of his
highlight plays it was sweet. So Colorado they're an entertaining watch.
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You can't argue that it's just they're playing on TV
against a real team. I want to watch. Will Johnson,
speaking of top corners, if Travis decided to play corner,
and who knows if he ever even quote unquote declares,
maybe he just goes into the draft as an athlete.
Will Johnson I think is viewed as the top corner
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right there with Travis Hunter had an unreal pick six
against President State. Who give the Dogs some credit. They
went in to an arbor defending champs. Granted they had
an entirely new team and a new coach. Dogs have
my guy, Tim Skipper. They were right in the game,
but Michigan had a little bit more. Michigan's gonna have
some issues on offense. Quarterback play pretty big question mark,
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but their defense is really good. And Will Johnson, I
don't know how quote unquote long he is, but he's
he's a top fifteen corner. I would imagine anything else.
It really is crazy the popularity right now of the
sport of football, and whether that's gambling, whether that's you know,
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kind of the fantasy football generation of people wanting to
watch star wide receiver, star quarterbacks, but seeing some of
these numbers. Eight point two million people watching Notre Dame
A and M, eight million people watching Georgia Clemson. If
you told me twelve million people watch tonight, I believe
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you like college football. And Collins's been talking about this
for a long time. Is it used to be so regional, right?
It was just the South was having so much success. Well,
now the South is cool. Nico Tennessee quarterback from Los Angeles,
Georgia's leading Russier against Clemson from Los Angeles, all these guys,
it was a big deal. I remember growing up if
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one of our star high school recruits in northern California
left the pac twelve Brady did it to Michigan. DJ
Williams did it to Miami. But for the most part,
you know, if you weren't going to USC, UCLA, calor Stanford,
you know, you Oregon or Washington, maybe Colorado, but you
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didn't go you were going to Alabama or Georgia. Now
look at Georgia. They're starting a running back. It's from
Los Angeles. Brock Bowers is from Napa. I've been saying
this for a while. Saban changed the game financially for
all these coaches, because college football has become more popular,
and he was the leading bus driver for the success.
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But he also made the SEC really cool. He made
it cool outside of the South, like I think it's cool.
Spent thirty seven years of my thirty nine years on
the West Coast, and I'm infatuated with the SEC has
the best players, right The SEC just resonates. And one
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of the things in the tweet I saw about the
ratings Stuart Mandel, those were ABC games, Well, guess what
ABC did? They bought the SEC. Now their song leading
into the SEC game may be pretty cheesy and maybe
pretty bad, but it's gonna work because this isn't just
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people in Mississippi and Alabama and Arkansas watching these games.
I watched every second. I'm sure many people listening watch
bits and pieces of a lot of them. And we're
living all over the country. And when I look at
the SEC and the Big Ten, and this is gonna
be an argument, especially now because the power of the
two conferences, the SEC is much better now. I know
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USC beat him the night and that was a big deal,
but I watched the Big Ten. Their quarterback play is
not great right now. Michigan's quarterback plays down and then
the random teams. And that's where the SEC that like
they're random teams have NFL quarterbacks because they've been stealing
so many of these quarterbacks from the West Coast. Where
did Lane Kiffin get his quarterback? Jackson dark USC? So
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it's like, now text A and M's quarterback. He was
one of the worst players I saw all weekend long
for a good player, and I text a buddy in
the NFL. I'm like, what's the deal with these two quarterbacks?
He said? The two most overrated guys coming into the
season for quote unquote draft prospects now Leonard the duke
transfer for Notre Dame. He's like a poor poor man's
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version Cam Newton. He's so big and he can run
guys over, but throwings very hit or miss. I don't
view that guy like an NFL thrower as of today.
An A and M's quarterback, I mean, look like he
should be at UC Davis. Now. The defense in those games,
and that's the other thing, the defense. Now the Big
ten has good defense too, but the physicality of the
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SEC right now and really all the Power five high
end schools is really high. And the hitting in that
game kind of felt like NFL light guys were getting crunched.
Notre Dame schedule a joke. They'll probably cruise the playoffs.
But that was an impressive win on the road. Now,
the other quarterback couldn't complete a pass to save his life,
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but but still get wins. A win on the road
against an SEC team Oregon was pretty bad. I didn't
watch much of that game just because I don't even
think it matters. But overall, man, this is we got
a lot of NFL talent. And that's the other thing.
Rising tide lifts all boats. The popularity, it all bleeds
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into each other, right, The NFL's popularity, the drafts popularity,
college football's popularity, they're all interconnected. Because when you're watching
tonight Garrett Nessmeyer like he's gonna get drafted. When you're
watching Lacey and the two tackles and some of the
dudes on USC and guys over the weekend in any
of the big games, you're like, that guy's an NFL player,
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that guy's an NFL player. What rounds this guy gonna go?
And the power of that is just taking this all
to a new level. And we can add the gambling,
the fantasy and college doesn't really exist, but it's all
part of each other. It's all in the same you
know network, It's all under the same umbrella. And it's
why football is lapping everybody right now. You know, you
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look at basketball, it's all disconnected. The best players in
the NBA are Euros, right aau is a joke. No
one cares about the g League. College basketball only matters
for the you know, the bracket. Baseball, It's just it's
all out of whack. But it all has to be interconnected.
I love golf. Talk about a sport that's all over
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the map when everyone is connected. Even if college has
their issues, the NFL kind of has some of their issues.
I mean, I can't get over the more and more
I think that the NFL is playing a game in Brazil.
I'm not anti expansion, but just talking to some people,
it's absolutely ludicrous. I mean, it's insane that they're doing it.
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It really is. As if you saw A. J. Brown's quote,
He's like, yeah, they kind of told us we can't
take our phone outside, Like I'm just gonna stay in
the hotel. Fucking the brazil guy just banned Twitter. It's like,
what are we doing? Just play the game in lambell
or Philly. And if you want to go international, go
to London. But you're going to fucking Brazil. What are
we trying to prove here? But regardless, I mean, we
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can nitpick anything the NCAA. I haven't watched Connor Stallion's
documentary yet, but I did see some clips from the
NA chick that was grilling them. It's like I couldn't
even imagine even if I'm Connor Stallin's Stallions and guilty
taking her seriously, but regardless, Like the two entities got
some issues, but where they don't have issues is when
the game's on for four quarters. People all around this
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country are glued. And I love football as much as most,
but I thought this weekend, the talent out there, the
entertainment value, the matchups been saying forever we need to
get rid of. We need lsu USC Like you shouldn't
be able to play maybe you know you can play
a Fresno State, a Boise, but playing some of these
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like FBS schools. Listen, North Dakota State is really should
be in the Mountain West. But and they're good and
they would beat a lot of you know, Division I
schools but just in general, that practice needs to end.
We just need teams playing other real teams because that's
what the consumer wants. And when you give us awesome matchups, million,
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millions of people are coming. So we know that these
television networks have more and more control because they're literally
paying for everything that they got to keep dropping the
hammer of Like for the three weeks buffer before we
start conference play, we got to play real games. I
don't even care if they're close, Like Oregon Idaho actually
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was a close game. That game should not be allowed
to happen. It should not be allowed to happen, especially now.
I Idaho bumped down divisions. When I was at Freslo State,
they were they were in the whack. They're not even
that anymore. They were a FBS or FCS. I get
those mixed up. They were in the playoffs. I think
they lost in the first round. They're playing like Sack State,
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you know, in South Dakota State and Montana State. I
have a lot of respect for those programs, but they
shouldn't be allowed to play these teams. And this is
why I think we're inevitably headed toward the big kind
of NFL style college football like in the NFL, you
only play o their NFL teams, right, Power five teams
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should only play their Power five teams, or you get
one group of five a year, you know, or whatever,
but you should not be able to play some of
the teams that some of these schools are playing. And
I understand some of these schedules are really hard. You know,
you look at whose schedule was I looking. I was
like Jesus might have been Georgia's or Ole miss some
of these SEC schedules and some of these Big ten
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schedules are difficult. Right if you have to play Ohio State,
if you have to pay Penn State, if you have
to play Oregon, it's hard that that's not like playing
you know, random teams. But still we got to figure
that out. But overall, fantastic week and just I'm sweating.
I'm so excited. So glad college football's back. NFL is
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right around the corner, and let's rock and roll baby.
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