September 3, 2024 • 41 mins
The 49ers are getting their All-Pro LT Trent Williams back right before the season starts and Colin explains why this year San Francisco is under so much pressure to win a Super Bowl
The Chiefs are leaning into being superstars
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go. It's Tuesday, It's officially football season,
no more days off. Ready to roll live in Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Forty minutes from now, Tom Brady the Goat stops by
our show, Nick right as well. Jmac drested, focused, ready
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to roll. The Niners got their guys back this sea
man after a great college football weekend. Numbers were gay me.
We'll get into that later, but good to see you
getting ready to go. I'm ready, that's why. So here's
good news. Trent Williams, who I think we can mostly admit,
even if you're a non forty nine er fan, best
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left tackle in football, and what we've been saying on
this show. I love Brandon Aiyuk. You better get Trent
Williams back because it's not the same team. This offense
is Shanahan, Trent Williams, and Christian McCaffrey in any order.
He's coming back. He signed a deal. He's back in
the Bay. So the noisiest off season in the NFL
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is suddenly getting quieter. And I mean the Niners off
season made the Jets noisy off season feel like a monastery.
It was baggage, it was noise. Christian McCaffrey didn't play Brandon.
Now you get that horrible Ricky pearsall a shooting incident.
He is now out of a hospital. Prayers to him
and his family. Now, the Niners are an older team
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and they're facing real pressure because Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle,
and Trent Williams have a lot of wear on those tires.
And you know who doesn't. Three of the best challengers
in the NFC, the Packers, the Lions and yes, the
Rams are really good, have six and seven year runways.
The Niners plane is about to take off. It's got
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the heaviest cargo ever. It may only have one great
lift off yet, and I'm not sure I like the
landing gear. Now we're gonna see a team that is
facing real pressure. Kyle Shanahan, I need a trophy. I
need a trophy. The Jets don't have a trophy either,
to the Niners. A lot of regular season wins, so
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that Jets Niners matchup the Baggage Bowl. You've had noise,
you've got stars, you got no trophies, and both think
it's their time. So I can't wait for that on
Monday Night Football, which is six days away. But the
Niners are interesting now because we've sort of been let's
be honest, we kind of know who the great quarterbacks
are in the NFL, and we've sort of been coddling
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brock Purty. But this is the year that the York
family owners of this franchise, Shanahan and John Lynch, will
make the grown up decision do we pay this kid
real money? They'll know by Thanksgiving. But the schedule's tough.
I think the division, it may not be the AFC
North or the NFC North, but I think the division
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is still really good. Keep your eye on Seattle. I
think we're gonna learn a lot about this team. A
lot of noise, a lot of baggage, a lot of cargo,
very expensive and older players. Deebo gets hurt. McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Kittle,
this is the best roster in the league. It is
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absolutely the best roster, one of the older ones. But
the best roster Detroit may be close. Philadelphia good like
the Chiefs too. This is the best roster in the league.
And if Stafford Joe Burrow Mahomes were the quarterback, they'd
be heavy, overwhelming favorites win a suit, and they're not.
Now they're in the top three. But now the pressure
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isn't just on everybody else not named Brock party, now
it's on Brock pretty too. So let's stop the coddling.
Let's get this party started. Trent Williams back in tow,
Brandon Aiyuk back in camp. The noisiest team in the
NFL suddenly got quiet, and I can't wait for the
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opener against the equally noisy and high expectation Jets. All right,
So I watched a lot of college football this weekend,
and the college football season got great ratings for a
lot of reasons. Get into that later, But I was
reading a takeaway an article this morning that said the
headline reads ten takeaways from an eventful college football Week one,
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and instead of going with ten, I'm gonna slim that
list down to one. Lincolnley can coach. Yeah, he's really
really good at coaching. The same people who banged on
Lincoln Riley for years try to convince you that Jim
Harbaugh couldn't coach either. Do resumes matter anymore? I watched
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Lincoln Riley with less talent on a neutral field and
a younger team out coach Brian Kelly out execute LSU,
one of the top three SEC football programs. This insatiable
need to think you're smarter than everybody, and you see
something the rest of us don't that Harbaugh and Lincoln
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Riley can't coach. Give me a break. USC was a
dead program. Four wins, thirty Division one players, and they
won eleven games the next year. But like Harbaugh Michigan,
they weren't really nearly as good and they're still not
as talented as Ohio State, Georgia, Bama, or Texas. USC
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does not have this morning that kind of talent, and
they may not have oregons either. And the criticism of
Lincoln Riley that did to me, that was fair, and
that made sense and was reasonable. Was Okay, Okay's one games.
We know he can design plays, we know he's pretty
damn smart offensively, and man, what he does with quarterbacks
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all of them is magic. But there was one question,
and it was reasonable, is can he build his own culture?
Because Oklahoma's always good, not much of a rebuild in Oklahoma.
A down year at Oklahoma's like nine or ten wins,
top five program. Ever, so that criticism can he build
his own staff in his own culture was fair and
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his first try at it. The defensive staff is terrible,
but now he rebooted. Deanton Lynn is now the defensive coordinator.
He'll be in the NFL in two years. This defensive
staff is the first time it wasn't the USC one US.
He's been scoring points forever. They scored him with Clay Lincoln, Sark, Kiffin, Pete,
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but it was the first time since Pete Carroll that
you watched a USC staff and you see other head
coaches on the staff beyond the head coach Lincoln Riley,
that you literally felt they were going up against an
SEC team with a ten million dollars a year coach,
and they out executed, They out coached, they outsmarted, they outplanned,
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they out adjusted. That's been missing. USC could have won
thirty seven to thirty four, and you wouldn't feel the
same way that you felt winning narrowly in a lower
scoring game because USC, with Caleb Williams and you'll see
how good he is in Chicago, had to put on
the cape to beat teams like Arizona. Now they can
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go toe to toe coaching, execution, quarterback, secondary. They looked
like a real team again. Are they a twelve team
playoff team? I think they are. I don't think they're
Ohio State. I don't think they're Georgia, Texas, Bama. I
don't think they have that kind of talent. But it's
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not that they won, it's how they won. People all
over the country on social media were saying, look at
the tackling, which is like loving a carpenter because he's
good with a hammer and a nail. Shouldn't he be
isn't that the Isn't that the foundational piece all construction
guys are good at No, That's how bad it's been
at USC. So Lincoln Riley, I know, I know you're
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trying to tell us that you're magical you can see
stuff the rest of us can't with Harbon, Lincoln Riley.
You also tried to sell us on NFTs, which are
now worthless. Here's Lincoln after the win.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I don't coach for the media.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't coach for headlines. We just try to do
what's best in our program, and we try to stay
just incredibly committed to it regardless of what anybody says
on the outside.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We know what we've been building.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Were very confident in the approach that we're taking with
the people that were putting in our program, players, staff, everyone,
and I just know I've been I'm not the most
experienced guy, but I have been through a couple of these.
I have a decent idea of what pretty good looks like,
and that was pretty good. Maybe not great, it's pretty good.
And LSU is going to run the table the next
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four or five weeks and blow people out. Go look
at their schedule, so stop telling me. LSU's no good.
LSU's almost always good.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They won a national title with that ors you're on,
They got Brian Kelly, they'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
J Mac.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
A lot of things going on, so believe it or not.
During I took a couple of days off and during
my brief labor intensive break, a lot of very, very
a lot of work going on. I was in a
small town that Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Taylor
Swift and Ryan Gosley were all in the town up
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the hill at a party, and the town was buzzing.
And my wife turned me and said, is there any
way you could text like Travis kelcey and say come
on over for beers? And I said, I think it's
going to be a hard night to pull them away.
But it got me thinking about why the Chiefs beyond
just talent, Because you and I know this, not all
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dynasties are the same. They're not all great for networks
and leagues. They're not. Sometimes it can get repetitive and boring.
But I was thinking about that party in that little
town and what happened there. You would not have believed
what happened, and I was there to witness it. Oh.
Why I love what the Kansas City Chiefs have become.
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Oh and we'll talk about that next.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
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Speaker 1 (10:48):
All right, welcome back. It is a Tuesday top of
the hour. I'll have my final Herd hierarchy top ten
teams in the league through my eyes before the season starts.
I could be very wrong on that. Tom Brady is
going to be joining us in about twenty five minutes.
So anyway, I just happened. It just happenstance weird that
Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes and a bunch of
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famous people were hanging out in a little town that
I spent some time in during the summer on vacation,
and the town like blew up. There were all of
a sudden in this town which you don't see a
lot of teenage girls and NFL jerseys a ysam and
I said to myself, this is perfect. They are leaning
into being celebrities. They don't lose their focus because they've
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been stars for several years. But the Kansas City Chiefs
are the opposite of the New England Patriots dynasty. And
it was ironic because that was in that little town
I was at. It's all Patriot fans. Everybody's got a
Patriot T shirt or a hat on. Although they don't
wear it as proudly this year as they did in
the previous decade. But this franchise in Kansas City, middle
of the country, that's always been the strength of the
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NFL market. Size does not matter. Packers are much better run,
much better franchise with much better players than Atlanta, Washington,
the New York teams. That's what's great about the NFL.
And our current dynasty is smack dab in the middle
of America, and they lean into trends and access and
new and fun. And Andy Reid once got a play.
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He admitted from a janitor. Not all dynasties are the same. Alabama,
the ratings showed was not great for college football. People
Denver West stopped watching, the Northeast stopped watching. The Spurs
were led by the big, fundamental New England. Do your job.
It wasn't that fun. Kansas City is stars trends, offense
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and personality and my entire life. And this is not
necessarily a bad thing. But I don't think sports should
feel like IBM. The NFL has been corporate. You honor
the shield, but the world's changed. New athletes now these
college kids come in and they already been paid and
they have brands. And Bill Parrson used to say, avoid
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drafting celebrity quarterbacks. Yeah, that's done, that's over. They're all
celebrities now, and they're all millionaires. The world has changed
beneath the feet of Bill Belichick. You change the league
and the players are not going to There's no fear
of this being the NBA. Outside of quarterbacks. Individual players
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just don't matter as much as an individual NBA star.
But the NFL right now is about collaboration, a lot
of smart, young coaching. In fact, I think the coaching
in high school football, I think the coaching in college football.
And the NFL is so smart, has never been better,
has never been more creative. And I lived in Connecticut
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for ten eleven years. I was tired of the movie.
I was tired of the Patriots movie. They Muzzled Gronk Hell.
Tom Brady was tired of it. He left on his
own accord. And I like what Kansas City is. It's
got a share Kobe feel, the Zen Master, Phil and
Andy Reid. You know, Andy likes steak tips, probably more
in Hawaiian shirts. Two megastars, always introducing new offenses, new ideas,
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and new players to us with great ownership, and Mahomes
was speaking about hanging out a little bit with a
megastar this summer, who apparently Taylor Swift, has said I've
got to play. I'd like you to run, And I
thought Patrick mahomes answer to the changing of football, Taylor
Swift and more was interesting.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I think it's been cool to see the girls and
the women that have really embraced watching football. And I know,
being a girl dad, how much how cool it is
for me. I mean to see like these little girls,
these daughters, and how much they're loving its spend time
with their with their dad watching football, and then meeting
Taylor realized how genuine and cool she is. I mean,
I think that's been special to me because I mean, she's,
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you said, the most fast person in the world she
could be, and she's really interested in football, and she
asked a lot of great questions. She's already drawing a
place one.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So here we go, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes
and that small market in the middle of the country
cannot be ignored. Like the Packers have done many times
in our lives, like the Colts did with Peyton Manning,
they are the centrifugal force of football, and I am
absolutely here for it. The Kansas City Chiefs, reigning two
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time Super Bowl champs, going for a third and getting
an occasional swing pass in from Taylor Swift. Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
I know I've been bashing the Chiefs all summer, but
you'll be happy to know I got Patrick Mahomes in
one of my fantasy drafts last night, just to balance
things out. Sure, let's get started with the Cowboys, Colin.
They kick off their season against the Browns Sunday on Fox.
Dak Prescott still has not landed a long term deal.
According to Diana Rossini, there's been a report hold up
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and the sides are haggling over the years, not the money.
But the assumption is Dak is going to be paid
at the top of the market. Hey, that's great news
for Dallas. Huh, It's about the years and not the money.
Browns are two and a half point favorite Sunday. You
think you'll have a new contract by kickoff Week one?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I don't, but as we've said before, he will
get a new contract. Jerry is terrified. Jerry Jones is
terrified of being irrelevant, and Dak like a Kirk Cousins
will do to Atlanta. Kirk Cousins will make your football
team good, not necessarily great, but good and relevant. All
Kirk Cousin teams are relevant. He was five hundred against
Aaron Rodgers. The vikings with Kirk were always. I mean
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the last time Washington was relevant, Kirk Cousins quarterback there,
Minnesota was relevant. I think Atlanta wins their division. And
I think that's what Dak does. He's grown up, he
says the right stuff. He clip lets a lot of passes.
He's a great leader. I don't think the Cowboys or
Kirk Cousins teams are ever great. They're all good. And
I think that's what Jerry is terrified of of not
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being discussed. That's why, in my opinion, that's why drags
out these contracts and get more free marketing.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
But you know, your word of word, choice of relevant
is like, yeah, okay, you're gonna win ten eleven games.
You're never gonna compete for a super Bowl if you're relevant, Right,
do you want to win super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You want to be relevant? Well, I think something in
pro sports that doesn't get discussed much, but it's a truism.
Not all owners are in it just for the ring,
like Philadelphia is in it for the rings. Philadelphia has
gotten rid of Super Bowl winning coaches. Philadelphia has moved
off Carson Wentz, who is in the running for an MVP.
Philadelphia is all about trophies. They know. Jeffrey Laurie is
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about winning games. He won't move off stuff that's working
because it's not working enough. Stang Cronkey moved off Jared
Goff got you to a super Bowl in Los Angeles.
The Rams are about winning trophies, Oh said Dallas. By
the way, San Francisco, San Francisco, Jimmy Garoppolo, We're gonna upgrade.
He got you to a super Bowl. There are certain
owners Stan Cronkey, Jeffrey Lourie, Jed Yorke they want a trophy.
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There are others. I'm not convinced that that's the number
one thing. You can tell me it is, but I'm
gonna watch by your acquisitions you're drafting, and how you
build your front office. I still contend this franchise needs
a new, fresh set of eyes in it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
That's a good take. Jerry just is happy being relevant,
naming the headline, taking a lot of money Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I watch the I watched the Eagles actions that franchise
up for trophies. I watched the Rams and the Niners.
I know exactly what they're trying to do. But then
I watched the Steelers in recent years, and is it
about family or trophies? Because I'm watching what Pittsburgh's doing,
and they're becoming less and less and less relevant. So
spending more money on defense than offense. So your actions
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will tell me what your real truth is.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
That's a dangerous game, you know, just being relevant because
they could get zoo. But we could be like in
Week four and all of a sudden, Dallas, which was
a top five team in the NFC last year, top
three or four, they could be slided down. I mean,
if Chicago and Killer Williams hit Colin, watch that Week
one look out. Next up, Hey, we got to talk
about my Jets. Now, listen to this. Bill Belichick, who
spurned the Jets, hated the Jets, makes fun of the Jets,
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gave them some praise. Belichick said the Jets are one
of the hardest teams to prepare for from a skill standpoint,
because of Brece Hall. He later added, if you load
the box your single out there with Garrol Wilson, and
that's a tall order. Look at that Belichick gassing up
my Jets ahead of a big season. Breese Hall, by
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the way, so excited for him against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If he goes down, you're in big trouble. But will
he loses a start in trouble, I will say, think,
I am so glad I'm not doing a blazing five
in week one. It's official. Yeah, I just announced it.
I don't need banners and and I don't need I
don't need pr The bottom line is there are two games.
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I have absolutely no idea, and I think all four
teams could be great. What is the Rams Detroit gonna
look like? Because none of them played their starters in
the preseason, I have no idea what they look like.
And I think both teams are excellent. And I got
no idea what the Niners Jets are gonna look like.
You got holdouts, you've got a coach on the hot seat,
you got an old team like the Jets. Niners is fascinating.
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I have no I want to watch that game, not
biting my fingernails to have money on it. I just
know I want to watch them. I don't know what
I'm gonna get with this team. I mean, I read
something on the Athletic two weeks ago where people are
saying the culture is a circus. But then I listened
to Aaron Rodgers and Solo and they they seem unified.
And I don't know what the Jets are. They're low
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hanging fruit is what they are. And they're staying out.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
You can just take shots at them because what's the defense?
Like the owner's a bit of a buffoon, the coaches
on the hot seat, they haven't been in the playoffs,
and the longest drought in the league. Like, you know,
it's easy to take shots at my Jets. Final story
in the AFC East, the Dolphins look to rebound after
a tough loss to the Chiefs in that wild card game.
The offense was fantastic, but Tyreek Hill thinks that they're
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even better, saying, this is the best team we've had
since I've been out here. Dolphins Jaggs is an interesting
one on Sunday. This is gonna be a high scoring game.
I think remember last year Dolphins Chargers Week one. That
game was like thirty six thirty four, which it was.
That's what Jags Dolphins is probably gonna be.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, I think last time. I have till Thursday to
make one more alteration to my playoff poh right, I
have Miami as one of the last AFC teams getting in.
I made that prediction new right, that was one of
the last teams. I think I know what they are.
Remember this about Miami, that they were a team playing
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very well and then they fell apart physically. They had
like seven injuries to starters on the defense. Before that,
they were creating a real pass rush, A kind of
looking at Miami thinking, oh, I don't want to play
Miami in the first round. And then they got two
bad breaks. Yeah, tons of injuries all one side of
the ball, and they had to go plan the coldest
weather in NFL playoff history in forever. Those are bad breaks.
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If the defense, now that it's healthy, is just as
good as last year, I think we're under selling Miami.
There was no team in the NFL last year. Now
this is all on memory. I don't have it down here,
but if I recall last year, they lost four or
five starters over like a three week period on the
defensive out down. Yeah, that was so. But before that
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we were like, oh, they're good on defense and offense.
And then they got the Kansas City weather game, which
is literally the worst weather they could possibly plan as
windy and cold. I think Miami, I think if you
take out that month of injuries, I think they're pretty good.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
This is year three of McDaniel, right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
We like him.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
We obviously we love McDaniel, but you wonder defenses started
to catch up to him at the end of the season.
At the beginning, remember they hung like seventy on the
Broncos or something insane. At the end of the year,
the defense has started to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
A little bit. Well, offenses all tend to slow down
a little in December.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I think the Jags doll that's a really good I mean,
they're all good games this weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I like Jag Dolphins, Trevor Lawrence. When's the last time
Tennessee played Chicago and you couldn't wait for it? I mean,
that's all you need to know about the NFL. I'm
looking at the Bears Titans and I'm like, oh, it's
got one of the best games I've ever seen. In
my life.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Do you have your Sunday mapped out yet? Like what
you're eating for breakfast? And you know what's just setting
up your TV situation?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Internet dude, are are you rotein shakes and red balls
that will get me through Sunday? I'm gonna be up
watching ball for twelve hours all weekend. Well, Texas Michigan Saturday,
I know, watch out, Michigan's in trouble. I'm just telling
you right. Oh really they're not scoring on texts? Huh No,
the Texas is I don't care what the line is.
I'm taking tokay Texas in that one. J Mack with
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a news.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So this shouldn't be a problem, but it's kind of
become a problem. But it's the world's best problem. For
the WNBA. Caitlin Clark is much better, much sooner than
even her biggest fans thought. Outside of Asia Wilson of
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Las Vegas. There are nights she's the second best player
in the league in the WNBA, and it's kind of
a problem because the players are struggling her passing her pace.
It literally her shooting looks different than the rest of
the league, but unfortunately she has also become the most
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flagrantly fouled player statistically in the league and the most
targeted player. Yeah, now, I've said I've seen this with
men too. Bryce Harper came into baseball and for two years, immature,
insecure baseball players couldn't hack it and handle the fact
that this young kid at eighteen nineteen was better, more polished,
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and more talented than they were. And you're seeing this
here with a WNBA. But the difference is baseball's always
made money in the WNBA hasn't. Now, thankfully, the league
has finally put their arms around her and Indiana, her
home team, will host next year's All Star Game. They've
already announced that thing, they announced it a month ago.
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But the players could use a little self awareness. There
are a lot of media members who defend women's sports
at all costs, and we do think that's the right side.
For years and years, people haven't given women the same
opportunities in same marketing. But it's also fair to criticize
women's basketball in the WNBA and their players for this petty,
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insecure lack of self awareness. Yes, Tiger Woods made all
golfers richer, and the smart guys on the tour like
Marco o'meira figured it out about a month. Then Rising
Tide lifts all boats WNBA players. You're flying private because
of one player. The commissioner couldn't get it done, The
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broadcast partners couldn't get it done. But Taylor Swift in sneakers,
Caitlin Clark single handedly got you on private jets, charter flights.
Embrace her. Understand that she's going to enrich all of you,
the league, the contracts, the arenas. She is way better,
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way sooner than anybody realized. The lead to its credit
started off slow and has finally figured it out. But
since the All Star Game where she finally got rest,
because remember with THEBA, once the season's over. In college,
you have the draft and you play, you don't get
time off like guys. She's averaging twenty five nine assists,
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forty eight percent from the field, and her pace in
tempo is different than everybody else in this sport, everybody else.
So don't fight the tide, ride the wave. Tom Brady's
coming up next live in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
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Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, we're back. I'm so fired up. You know,
I always knew i'd be Tom Brady's teammate. I figured
I'd be a slot corner. I'm very twitchy. Let's bring
him on, Tom Brady the opener, cowboyle living Browns. I
always knew when I was Connecticut, I'm like, you know what,
I should go down there, show Belichick my back pedal.
(27:55):
But you know, we're different kind of teammates. Let me
start with that. That's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Your football career.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's not real interesting. So you exhale, you retire, you exhale,
and you probably gave yourself about four or five months
just kind of just take a deep breath. I saw
you slim down. You probably weren't sore for the first
time in twenty years. And then you start prepping. You
sign with Fox. What have you been doing to prepare
for this opening broadcast for a year and a half.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Well, I've reached out to all the different people that
I've met over the years of in media and sports
and got their take on kind of what the job entailed.
And then ultimately how the preparation goes during the week
and then how do you be really good when you
come on air. And I've had a lot of time,
I think over the course of my career in interviews,
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production meetings, and being on camera. Yeah, that hopefully it's
not too far from what I've already experienced, knowing that
there's going to be a lot of things that are
new to this. So I think the most exciting part
for me is there's more of a structure to my life.
But you're always enjoyed playing football on the weekends. Now
I get to work on the weekends here in the fall,
and obviously the NFL football season.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Is back, which is we're all excited about that.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I'm sure when you're walking into the studio today, it's
a different feeling because you know, this new cycle round
n football is very exciting, and I'm excited to get going.
I got the best teammates in the world, you know,
KB and Aaron Tom and then everyone behind the scenes in.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
The truck Zee Russ, their whole team.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
The chance to get to know those people more intimately
and to really put together something special for the audience
is what's exciting for me.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So I'm ready for football season.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm ready to get back out there and watch from
a different perspective. And we're fortunate to be in Cleveland
this weekend with a great game in Cleveland Dallas, and
they can't get here soon enough.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
So when you look at this film, all these years
of experience, one of the things I asked mysel Off
about Cleveland. I love the coach, I love the GM,
I love the old line. What's up with Deshaun Watson?
I mean you can play, he didn't play. Are you
seeing anything in this matchup just on film from last
year that you are saying, Man, I got to see
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this developed, Like, is there a really interesting element that
you can't wait to see?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I think there's a lot of storylines in this particular game.
But the interesting part about the NFL is nobody really
knows what they're going to be this season. You have hopes,
you bring in draft picks, free agents, and you try
to put together your team to say, all right, this
is the way that we want to play based on.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Where our deficiencies were last year.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Certainly Cleveland's defense was top of the league last year.
They want to continue that. They want to get to
Sean back. They brought in a whole offensive staff to
try to get him to play the way that he
played when he was in Houston. Yeah, and they want
to go out there and compete, not just for a
division title, but for more than that. And it's a
great kind of test for them to go against Dallas,
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who you know, they want to get over the hump
as well. And they've got a lot of great players.
They've got a lot of great talent. You know, they
got to get to you know, I think coach McCarthy,
they have a great leader and coach McCarthy that really preaches, hey,
we want to stay focused day after day. We want
to eliminate the distractions and and they've had quite a
few of that this offseason, but every team does, and
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I feel like Dallas is handled it very well. And
it's a great opening game. This is what it's all about.
A lot of guys coming back from injury. You got
Treron Diggs up there. I want to see him play,
and I want to see what Dak does coming off
last season, his best season as a pro. So so
many great things to watch in this particular game. And again,
it's a perfect day for football. It seems like it's
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going to be in Cleveland on Sunday. It's not always
like that. There from someone who's been there a few times. Yeah,
but sixty five degrees and partly Claude's perfect perfect football weather.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, Trent Williams back, and we've said this before. I
feel Trent Williams was more and I like Brandon Ayuk.
I think the team is Kyle Shanahan's brain, McCaffrey's legs,
and Trent Williams and Bosa. That's the soul of the team.
Tell me, what is the difference if you knew you
had Trent Williams and he didn't play, would it get
in your head? I think his signing is gigantic for
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the Niners. You tell me how much it matters. I
would be driving him to work every day. If I
was the quarterback, I'd be making sure Trent was with
me every single place I went.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
There's no better protector in the NFL than Trent over
the years, and I think the way they use him,
and obviously they I think San Francisco's run game is incredible,
the way they scheme their run game up. But having
Trent in there, it's just an entirely different offense because
of his athleticism, his rare combination of size, of quickness
of power. I mean, he's just and he gets out
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there on the fields. He's a matchup advantage for the
Niners every time that he takes a snap out there.
So when they have him out there, they all feel confident.
A lot of those book players are going to go
at the left side of the line of scrimmage right
behind him. They know that when he's in past protection,
he's gonna hold up as well as anybody, doesn't really
matter who he goes against, a tremendous player, and it's night.
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There's a you know, between the Ayux signing and Trent.
I mean that was a little worriessome a few weeks ago.
I actually did a practice game against the Saints up
in Santa Clara a couple weeks ago, and everyone's cut
a bit concern.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
But I think now a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Of those concerned are ease when both those guys are
back in the building and ready to take their put
their pads on, go out to practice and get ready
to play game.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, Chiefs Ravens Thursday, Kansas City's done this dance and
they keep winning it. I love Lamar, I love Baltimore,
I love the coach, I love the owner. I think
it's the best run franchise arguably last decade in the league.
I think Baltimore does everything well except win. In late January,
you tell me, does it start wearing on you? Buffalo's
going through this, Tom you start hearing you can't win
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these games? Is the pressure on Kansas City to defend
the home field or Baltimore Thursday?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I'd say a little bit more on Baltimore for that
exact reason. I think that when you have great leadership,
and I think of those Baltimore teams when they had
Ray Lewis and Ed Reid as their two primary leaders,
they even though they may lost.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
In a championship game.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I actually saw this the other day, a clip from
Ray Lewis in the locker room after they had lost
to US I think in twenty eleven in the championship game,
and how Ray talked about that team and how we
wanted to get them back on track going in the
next year. That's always what it's about. When you lose
in the playoffs, you want to think about, how are
we going to get over the hump next year?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
What do we need to do?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Where are our deficiencies? Where can we get a little better?
Where's our margin of air? Is it taking care of
the football? Is at third down? Is it scoring points
in the reddar? Is it production from a unit that
we haven't got a lot of production from tight end groupings,
running back groupings. How can we improve our team a
little bit so when we get these big games, we're
more prepared than the other team.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
We got more margin of air and look.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
To win a super Bowl is absolutely incredibly difficult.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
There's only one thing that does it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
To do what the Chiefs have done is really remarkable,
and they want to try to do it again. That
challenge of them doing it is going to be as
hard a challenge as any team the NFL's ever had.
That's why it's never happened to win three in a row.
But the Chiefs are poised like they always are to
go in there. I don't think they believe their hype.
They're very well coached, obviously a great quarterback, great leaders.
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The defense played really well last year, so those guys
are prepared. Baltimore wants what the Chiefs got, and that's
why you lead the season off the way they have
it Ravens Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I'm excited to see that one get underway too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I couldn't tell you the last time I was this
excited to watch the Chicago Bears play and the Washington Commanders.
And that's the great gift the NFL gives us is
that we watch these great college players for three and
four and five years, and all of a sudden I
have an emotional investment. I can't wait to watch Jaden
and Caleb. Give me one thing that you'll see with
the one young quarterback. You may see it with Drake May.
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The one thing that Tom Brady will see that I
can't that you'll be like, Okay, he's going to be okay,
He's going to be okay. What does a young quarterback?
Is it the feat? Is it the head movement? What
do you see that I can't that you would know
it's going to work? Well.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I think there's lots of ways you can look at
a quarterback play, and I think it's very easily to
evaluate the physical aspect of the game. How well he
throws the ball, how fast his feet are when he
drops back in the pocket. Can you escape the pocket
and make some plays on the run. For me, I
think the sustainable part about quarterbacking is really what's up
here is what's in the brain. Are you snapping the
ball and running good plays consistently against the defenses that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You're out there watching as you're reading the defenses.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
So so much of it to me is our just
is the coach giving the quarterback because he's going to
see it every day in practice. The coach and the players.
Are they given the quarterback the freedom to make the
plays and the decisions that he needs to make to
get the team to win Because a lot of these
guys can throw the ball, a lot of them can
move in the pocket. Now watching Caleb do it, he's
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exceptional at it right, But to me, it's a deeper
level than that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
When you're looking at starting quarterbacks the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Everybody should be able to throw the ball well, everybody
should be able to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Drop back and make accurate throws.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
It's what can you do when you're in front on
the road, in front of seventy thousand people, and every
single player in the offensive uttles look at you and
your eyes going does this guy have the confidence in
himself to bring us back?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
When we're losing in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
And I think that's the mark of what I see
in quarterbacks when I watch them.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I want to say, Okay, does this guy have the maturity?
Does he have the poise?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Does he have the composure to be at his best
when his team needs him the most?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Ninety seconds Drake May would you sit him? I don't
think there's a right answer. Would just sit him? Or
would you just put his feet to the fire and
let it rip?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
So I mean, I'd gone on record to say that
I think it's best, in my opinion, for young quarterbacks
and rookie quarterbacks to.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Kind of watch a veteran do it.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
And there's so much that goes on and quarterbacks need
to process so much information so quickly, and I think
if you can have someonehen I sat behind Drew Bledsell
my first year. What a great player he was someone
that I got to watch and learn from. Aaron Rodgers
watched behind Brett Fahr, Patrick Mahomes watch behind Alex Smith.
So when you have a real pro in front of you,
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they can help with that learning curve.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Email though that young quarterback isn't.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Necessarily going out there and losing confidence in what his
abilities are. So you know, ultimately those young players are
going to get opportunities. The franchises need those young quarterbacks
to come in and take a big step and lead that.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Franchise on into the future. Right.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I'd just like to give them a little bit of
time to acclimate themselves to the pro game, the pro schedule,
and it's a big difference between college football and professional football.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
We got about ninety seconds left. Week one is different
than it used to be. Tom nobody plays in the
preseason veterans. I mean, the the Jets and the Niners.
Some of these older teams are not playing anybody, so
there could be upsets galore. It is. I mean, if
you had a lean in Dallas Cleveland, because there's so
many good veteran players in that. We'll circle back for
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about ninety seconds. Now, what do you think the game
looks like? Cowboys Browns? What does it look like to start?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I think it's a defensive game. I think you got
two great defenses. Coach Zimmer is.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
A huge addition to that Dallas defense.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
They've got a lot of the same players coming back
on Dallas's defense.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Cleveland does as well.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I think both offenses they're not quite the running games
they've had in the past due to some injuries, so
they've had some offensive line shuffling going around on both teams.
So I think it's gonna be a little bit more
of a passing game. And I don't know if those
passing games are quite in midseason form yet with the
way that these you know, CD wasn't in camp, you
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know that didn't have a lot of looks at that,
So again, some of these passing games may take a
little time to develop. So I think it's going to
be a really a very good defensive game. Two great coordinators,
a couple of the best defensive lines pass rushers in
the NFL going. So I don't think it's a zero
three nothing game. But I don't think it's a high flying, scoring,
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all over the place game either.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, last week in Week one, it was I'm always
amazed the college kids play so well in week one
without preseason, these NFL games week one, there's going to
be a huge upset. Veterans don't play, so you don't
know what you're getting.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
You don't think the pro football is a lot more
fair than college football. When you see these college football
games and you got a directional Tennessee school versus Alabama,
there's not much chance that. Yeah, it's it's tough for
those teams to come in and compete against the big dogs.
So in the NFL, look, this is as fair as
it gets, which is why everyone loves his sport and
salary cap.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's so many things that you know. All these teams
have the.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Ability to recompromise their roster and deal with them in
the best possible way and try to be the best
team they could be.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Great. Seeing you, good luck Hour two next
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go. It's Tuesday, It's officially football season,
no more days off. Ready to roll live in Los Angeles.
It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Forty minutes from now, Tom Brady the Goat stops by
our show, Nick right as well. Jmac drested, focused, ready
(00:52):
to roll. The Niners got their guys back this sea
man after a great college football weekend. Numbers were gay me.
We'll get into that later, but good to see you
getting ready to go. I'm ready, that's why. So here's
good news. Trent Williams, who I think we can mostly admit,
even if you're a non forty nine er fan, best
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left tackle in football, and what we've been saying on
this show. I love Brandon Aiyuk. You better get Trent
Williams back because it's not the same team. This offense
is Shanahan, Trent Williams, and Christian McCaffrey in any order.
He's coming back. He signed a deal. He's back in
the Bay. So the noisiest off season in the NFL
(01:34):
is suddenly getting quieter. And I mean the Niners off
season made the Jets noisy off season feel like a monastery.
It was baggage, it was noise. Christian McCaffrey didn't play Brandon.
Now you get that horrible Ricky pearsall a shooting incident.
He is now out of a hospital. Prayers to him
and his family. Now, the Niners are an older team
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and they're facing real pressure because Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle,
and Trent Williams have a lot of wear on those tires.
And you know who doesn't. Three of the best challengers
in the NFC, the Packers, the Lions and yes, the
Rams are really good, have six and seven year runways.
The Niners plane is about to take off. It's got
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the heaviest cargo ever. It may only have one great
lift off yet, and I'm not sure I like the
landing gear. Now we're gonna see a team that is
facing real pressure. Kyle Shanahan, I need a trophy. I
need a trophy. The Jets don't have a trophy either,
to the Niners. A lot of regular season wins, so
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that Jets Niners matchup the Baggage Bowl. You've had noise,
you've got stars, you got no trophies, and both think
it's their time. So I can't wait for that on
Monday Night Football, which is six days away. But the
Niners are interesting now because we've sort of been let's
be honest, we kind of know who the great quarterbacks
are in the NFL, and we've sort of been coddling
(03:01):
brock Purty. But this is the year that the York
family owners of this franchise, Shanahan and John Lynch, will
make the grown up decision do we pay this kid
real money? They'll know by Thanksgiving. But the schedule's tough.
I think the division, it may not be the AFC
North or the NFC North, but I think the division
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is still really good. Keep your eye on Seattle. I
think we're gonna learn a lot about this team. A
lot of noise, a lot of baggage, a lot of cargo,
very expensive and older players. Deebo gets hurt. McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Kittle,
this is the best roster in the league. It is
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absolutely the best roster, one of the older ones. But
the best roster Detroit may be close. Philadelphia good like
the Chiefs too. This is the best roster in the league.
And if Stafford Joe Burrow Mahomes were the quarterback, they'd
be heavy, overwhelming favorites win a suit, and they're not.
Now they're in the top three. But now the pressure
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isn't just on everybody else not named Brock party, now
it's on Brock pretty too. So let's stop the coddling.
Let's get this party started. Trent Williams back in tow,
Brandon Aiyuk back in camp. The noisiest team in the
NFL suddenly got quiet, and I can't wait for the
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opener against the equally noisy and high expectation Jets. All right,
So I watched a lot of college football this weekend,
and the college football season got great ratings for a
lot of reasons. Get into that later, But I was
reading a takeaway an article this morning that said the
headline reads ten takeaways from an eventful college football Week one,
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and instead of going with ten, I'm gonna slim that
list down to one. Lincolnley can coach. Yeah, he's really
really good at coaching. The same people who banged on
Lincoln Riley for years try to convince you that Jim
Harbaugh couldn't coach either. Do resumes matter anymore? I watched
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Lincoln Riley with less talent on a neutral field and
a younger team out coach Brian Kelly out execute LSU,
one of the top three SEC football programs. This insatiable
need to think you're smarter than everybody, and you see
something the rest of us don't that Harbaugh and Lincoln
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Riley can't coach. Give me a break. USC was a
dead program. Four wins, thirty Division one players, and they
won eleven games the next year. But like Harbaugh Michigan,
they weren't really nearly as good and they're still not
as talented as Ohio State, Georgia, Bama, or Texas. USC
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does not have this morning that kind of talent, and
they may not have oregons either. And the criticism of
Lincoln Riley that did to me, that was fair, and
that made sense and was reasonable. Was Okay, Okay's one games.
We know he can design plays, we know he's pretty
damn smart offensively, and man, what he does with quarterbacks
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all of them is magic. But there was one question,
and it was reasonable, is can he build his own culture?
Because Oklahoma's always good, not much of a rebuild in Oklahoma.
A down year at Oklahoma's like nine or ten wins,
top five program. Ever, so that criticism can he build
his own staff in his own culture was fair and
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his first try at it. The defensive staff is terrible,
but now he rebooted. Deanton Lynn is now the defensive coordinator.
He'll be in the NFL in two years. This defensive
staff is the first time it wasn't the USC one US.
He's been scoring points forever. They scored him with Clay Lincoln, Sark, Kiffin, Pete,
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but it was the first time since Pete Carroll that
you watched a USC staff and you see other head
coaches on the staff beyond the head coach Lincoln Riley,
that you literally felt they were going up against an
SEC team with a ten million dollars a year coach,
and they out executed, They out coached, they outsmarted, they outplanned,
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they out adjusted. That's been missing. USC could have won
thirty seven to thirty four, and you wouldn't feel the
same way that you felt winning narrowly in a lower
scoring game because USC, with Caleb Williams and you'll see
how good he is in Chicago, had to put on
the cape to beat teams like Arizona. Now they can
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go toe to toe coaching, execution, quarterback, secondary. They looked
like a real team again. Are they a twelve team
playoff team? I think they are. I don't think they're
Ohio State. I don't think they're Georgia, Texas, Bama. I
don't think they have that kind of talent. But it's
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not that they won, it's how they won. People all
over the country on social media were saying, look at
the tackling, which is like loving a carpenter because he's
good with a hammer and a nail. Shouldn't he be
isn't that the Isn't that the foundational piece all construction
guys are good at No, That's how bad it's been
at USC. So Lincoln Riley, I know, I know you're
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trying to tell us that you're magical you can see
stuff the rest of us can't with Harbon, Lincoln Riley.
You also tried to sell us on NFTs, which are
now worthless. Here's Lincoln after the win.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I don't coach for the media.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I don't coach for headlines. We just try to do
what's best in our program, and we try to stay
just incredibly committed to it regardless of what anybody says
on the outside.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We know what we've been building.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Were very confident in the approach that we're taking with
the people that were putting in our program, players, staff, everyone,
and I just know I've been I'm not the most
experienced guy, but I have been through a couple of these.
I have a decent idea of what pretty good looks like,
and that was pretty good. Maybe not great, it's pretty good.
And LSU is going to run the table the next
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four or five weeks and blow people out. Go look
at their schedule, so stop telling me. LSU's no good.
LSU's almost always good.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
They won a national title with that ors you're on,
They got Brian Kelly, they'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
J Mac.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
A lot of things going on, so believe it or not.
During I took a couple of days off and during
my brief labor intensive break, a lot of very, very
a lot of work going on. I was in a
small town that Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and Taylor
Swift and Ryan Gosley were all in the town up
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the hill at a party, and the town was buzzing.
And my wife turned me and said, is there any
way you could text like Travis kelcey and say come
on over for beers? And I said, I think it's
going to be a hard night to pull them away.
But it got me thinking about why the Chiefs beyond
just talent, Because you and I know this, not all
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dynasties are the same. They're not all great for networks
and leagues. They're not. Sometimes it can get repetitive and boring.
But I was thinking about that party in that little
town and what happened there. You would not have believed
what happened, and I was there to witness it. Oh.
Why I love what the Kansas City Chiefs have become.
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Oh and we'll talk about that next.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
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Speaker 1 (10:48):
All right, welcome back. It is a Tuesday top of
the hour. I'll have my final Herd hierarchy top ten
teams in the league through my eyes before the season starts.
I could be very wrong on that. Tom Brady is
going to be joining us in about twenty five minutes.
So anyway, I just happened. It just happenstance weird that
Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes and a bunch of
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famous people were hanging out in a little town that
I spent some time in during the summer on vacation,
and the town like blew up. There were all of
a sudden in this town which you don't see a
lot of teenage girls and NFL jerseys a ysam and
I said to myself, this is perfect. They are leaning
into being celebrities. They don't lose their focus because they've
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been stars for several years. But the Kansas City Chiefs
are the opposite of the New England Patriots dynasty. And
it was ironic because that was in that little town
I was at. It's all Patriot fans. Everybody's got a
Patriot T shirt or a hat on. Although they don't
wear it as proudly this year as they did in
the previous decade. But this franchise in Kansas City, middle
of the country, that's always been the strength of the
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NFL market. Size does not matter. Packers are much better run,
much better franchise with much better players than Atlanta, Washington,
the New York teams. That's what's great about the NFL.
And our current dynasty is smack dab in the middle
of America, and they lean into trends and access and
new and fun. And Andy Reid once got a play.
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He admitted from a janitor. Not all dynasties are the same. Alabama,
the ratings showed was not great for college football. People
Denver West stopped watching, the Northeast stopped watching. The Spurs
were led by the big, fundamental New England. Do your job.
It wasn't that fun. Kansas City is stars trends, offense
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and personality and my entire life. And this is not
necessarily a bad thing. But I don't think sports should
feel like IBM. The NFL has been corporate. You honor
the shield, but the world's changed. New athletes now these
college kids come in and they already been paid and
they have brands. And Bill Parrson used to say, avoid
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drafting celebrity quarterbacks. Yeah, that's done, that's over. They're all
celebrities now, and they're all millionaires. The world has changed
beneath the feet of Bill Belichick. You change the league
and the players are not going to There's no fear
of this being the NBA. Outside of quarterbacks. Individual players
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just don't matter as much as an individual NBA star.
But the NFL right now is about collaboration, a lot
of smart, young coaching. In fact, I think the coaching
in high school football, I think the coaching in college football.
And the NFL is so smart, has never been better,
has never been more creative. And I lived in Connecticut
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for ten eleven years. I was tired of the movie.
I was tired of the Patriots movie. They Muzzled Gronk Hell.
Tom Brady was tired of it. He left on his
own accord. And I like what Kansas City is. It's
got a share Kobe feel, the Zen Master, Phil and
Andy Reid. You know, Andy likes steak tips, probably more
in Hawaiian shirts. Two megastars, always introducing new offenses, new ideas,
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and new players to us with great ownership, and Mahomes
was speaking about hanging out a little bit with a
megastar this summer, who apparently Taylor Swift, has said I've
got to play. I'd like you to run, And I
thought Patrick mahomes answer to the changing of football, Taylor
Swift and more was interesting.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
I think it's been cool to see the girls and
the women that have really embraced watching football. And I know,
being a girl dad, how much how cool it is
for me. I mean to see like these little girls,
these daughters, and how much they're loving its spend time
with their with their dad watching football, and then meeting
Taylor realized how genuine and cool she is. I mean,
I think that's been special to me because I mean, she's,
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you said, the most fast person in the world she
could be, and she's really interested in football, and she
asked a lot of great questions. She's already drawing a
place one.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So here we go, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes
and that small market in the middle of the country
cannot be ignored. Like the Packers have done many times
in our lives, like the Colts did with Peyton Manning,
they are the centrifugal force of football, and I am
absolutely here for it. The Kansas City Chiefs, reigning two
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time Super Bowl champs, going for a third and getting
an occasional swing pass in from Taylor Swift. Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is the Herdline News.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
I know I've been bashing the Chiefs all summer, but
you'll be happy to know I got Patrick Mahomes in
one of my fantasy drafts last night, just to balance
things out. Sure, let's get started with the Cowboys, Colin.
They kick off their season against the Browns Sunday on Fox.
Dak Prescott still has not landed a long term deal.
According to Diana Rossini, there's been a report hold up
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and the sides are haggling over the years, not the money.
But the assumption is Dak is going to be paid
at the top of the market. Hey, that's great news
for Dallas. Huh, It's about the years and not the money.
Browns are two and a half point favorite Sunday. You
think you'll have a new contract by kickoff Week one?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I don't, but as we've said before, he will
get a new contract. Jerry is terrified. Jerry Jones is
terrified of being irrelevant, and Dak like a Kirk Cousins
will do to Atlanta. Kirk Cousins will make your football
team good, not necessarily great, but good and relevant. All
Kirk Cousin teams are relevant. He was five hundred against
Aaron Rodgers. The vikings with Kirk were always. I mean
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the last time Washington was relevant, Kirk Cousins quarterback there,
Minnesota was relevant. I think Atlanta wins their division. And
I think that's what Dak does. He's grown up, he
says the right stuff. He clip lets a lot of passes.
He's a great leader. I don't think the Cowboys or
Kirk Cousins teams are ever great. They're all good. And
I think that's what Jerry is terrified of of not
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being discussed. That's why, in my opinion, that's why drags
out these contracts and get more free marketing.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
But you know, your word of word, choice of relevant
is like, yeah, okay, you're gonna win ten eleven games.
You're never gonna compete for a super Bowl if you're relevant, Right,
do you want to win super Bowls?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You want to be relevant? Well, I think something in
pro sports that doesn't get discussed much, but it's a truism.
Not all owners are in it just for the ring,
like Philadelphia is in it for the rings. Philadelphia has
gotten rid of Super Bowl winning coaches. Philadelphia has moved
off Carson Wentz, who is in the running for an MVP.
Philadelphia is all about trophies. They know. Jeffrey Laurie is
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about winning games. He won't move off stuff that's working
because it's not working enough. Stang Cronkey moved off Jared
Goff got you to a super Bowl in Los Angeles.
The Rams are about winning trophies, Oh said Dallas. By
the way, San Francisco, San Francisco, Jimmy Garoppolo, We're gonna upgrade.
He got you to a super Bowl. There are certain
owners Stan Cronkey, Jeffrey Lourie, Jed Yorke they want a trophy.
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There are others. I'm not convinced that that's the number
one thing. You can tell me it is, but I'm
gonna watch by your acquisitions you're drafting, and how you
build your front office. I still contend this franchise needs
a new, fresh set of eyes in it.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
That's a good take. Jerry just is happy being relevant,
naming the headline, taking a lot of money Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I watch the I watched the Eagles actions that franchise
up for trophies. I watched the Rams and the Niners.
I know exactly what they're trying to do. But then
I watched the Steelers in recent years, and is it
about family or trophies? Because I'm watching what Pittsburgh's doing,
and they're becoming less and less and less relevant. So
spending more money on defense than offense. So your actions
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will tell me what your real truth is.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
That's a dangerous game, you know, just being relevant because
they could get zoo. But we could be like in
Week four and all of a sudden, Dallas, which was
a top five team in the NFC last year, top
three or four, they could be slided down. I mean,
if Chicago and Killer Williams hit Colin, watch that Week
one look out. Next up, Hey, we got to talk
about my Jets. Now, listen to this. Bill Belichick, who
spurned the Jets, hated the Jets, makes fun of the Jets,
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gave them some praise. Belichick said the Jets are one
of the hardest teams to prepare for from a skill standpoint,
because of Brece Hall. He later added, if you load
the box your single out there with Garrol Wilson, and
that's a tall order. Look at that Belichick gassing up
my Jets ahead of a big season. Breese Hall, by
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the way, so excited for him against the Niners.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If he goes down, you're in big trouble. But will
he loses a start in trouble, I will say, think,
I am so glad I'm not doing a blazing five
in week one. It's official. Yeah, I just announced it.
I don't need banners and and I don't need I
don't need pr The bottom line is there are two games.
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I have absolutely no idea, and I think all four
teams could be great. What is the Rams Detroit gonna
look like? Because none of them played their starters in
the preseason, I have no idea what they look like.
And I think both teams are excellent. And I got
no idea what the Niners Jets are gonna look like.
You got holdouts, you've got a coach on the hot seat,
you got an old team like the Jets. Niners is fascinating.
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I have no I want to watch that game, not
biting my fingernails to have money on it. I just
know I want to watch them. I don't know what
I'm gonna get with this team. I mean, I read
something on the Athletic two weeks ago where people are
saying the culture is a circus. But then I listened
to Aaron Rodgers and Solo and they they seem unified.
And I don't know what the Jets are. They're low
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hanging fruit is what they are. And they're staying out.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
You can just take shots at them because what's the defense?
Like the owner's a bit of a buffoon, the coaches
on the hot seat, they haven't been in the playoffs,
and the longest drought in the league. Like, you know,
it's easy to take shots at my Jets. Final story
in the AFC East, the Dolphins look to rebound after
a tough loss to the Chiefs in that wild card game.
The offense was fantastic, but Tyreek Hill thinks that they're
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even better, saying, this is the best team we've had
since I've been out here. Dolphins Jaggs is an interesting
one on Sunday. This is gonna be a high scoring game.
I think remember last year Dolphins Chargers Week one. That
game was like thirty six thirty four, which it was.
That's what Jags Dolphins is probably gonna be.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, I think last time. I have till Thursday to
make one more alteration to my playoff poh right, I
have Miami as one of the last AFC teams getting in.
I made that prediction new right, that was one of
the last teams. I think I know what they are.
Remember this about Miami, that they were a team playing
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very well and then they fell apart physically. They had
like seven injuries to starters on the defense. Before that,
they were creating a real pass rush, A kind of
looking at Miami thinking, oh, I don't want to play
Miami in the first round. And then they got two
bad breaks. Yeah, tons of injuries all one side of
the ball, and they had to go plan the coldest
weather in NFL playoff history in forever. Those are bad breaks.
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If the defense, now that it's healthy, is just as
good as last year, I think we're under selling Miami.
There was no team in the NFL last year. Now
this is all on memory. I don't have it down here,
but if I recall last year, they lost four or
five starters over like a three week period on the
defensive out down. Yeah, that was so. But before that
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we were like, oh, they're good on defense and offense.
And then they got the Kansas City weather game, which
is literally the worst weather they could possibly plan as
windy and cold. I think Miami, I think if you
take out that month of injuries, I think they're pretty good.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
This is year three of McDaniel, right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
We like him.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
We obviously we love McDaniel, but you wonder defenses started
to catch up to him at the end of the season.
At the beginning, remember they hung like seventy on the
Broncos or something insane. At the end of the year,
the defense has started to slow them down.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
A little bit. Well, offenses all tend to slow down
a little in December.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I think the Jags doll that's a really good I mean,
they're all good games this weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I like Jag Dolphins, Trevor Lawrence. When's the last time
Tennessee played Chicago and you couldn't wait for it? I mean,
that's all you need to know about the NFL. I'm
looking at the Bears Titans and I'm like, oh, it's
got one of the best games I've ever seen. In
my life.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Do you have your Sunday mapped out yet? Like what
you're eating for breakfast? And you know what's just setting
up your TV situation?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Internet dude, are are you rotein shakes and red balls
that will get me through Sunday? I'm gonna be up
watching ball for twelve hours all weekend. Well, Texas Michigan Saturday,
I know, watch out, Michigan's in trouble. I'm just telling
you right. Oh really they're not scoring on texts? Huh No,
the Texas is I don't care what the line is.
I'm taking tokay Texas in that one. J Mack with
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a news.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
So this shouldn't be a problem, but it's kind of
become a problem. But it's the world's best problem. For
the WNBA. Caitlin Clark is much better, much sooner than
even her biggest fans thought. Outside of Asia Wilson of
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Las Vegas. There are nights she's the second best player
in the league in the WNBA, and it's kind of
a problem because the players are struggling her passing her pace.
It literally her shooting looks different than the rest of
the league, but unfortunately she has also become the most
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flagrantly fouled player statistically in the league and the most
targeted player. Yeah, now, I've said I've seen this with
men too. Bryce Harper came into baseball and for two years, immature,
insecure baseball players couldn't hack it and handle the fact
that this young kid at eighteen nineteen was better, more polished,
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and more talented than they were. And you're seeing this
here with a WNBA. But the difference is baseball's always
made money in the WNBA hasn't. Now, thankfully, the league
has finally put their arms around her and Indiana, her
home team, will host next year's All Star Game. They've
already announced that thing, they announced it a month ago.
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But the players could use a little self awareness. There
are a lot of media members who defend women's sports
at all costs, and we do think that's the right side.
For years and years, people haven't given women the same
opportunities in same marketing. But it's also fair to criticize
women's basketball in the WNBA and their players for this petty,
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insecure lack of self awareness. Yes, Tiger Woods made all
golfers richer, and the smart guys on the tour like
Marco o'meira figured it out about a month. Then Rising
Tide lifts all boats WNBA players. You're flying private because
of one player. The commissioner couldn't get it done, The
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broadcast partners couldn't get it done. But Taylor Swift in sneakers,
Caitlin Clark single handedly got you on private jets, charter flights.
Embrace her. Understand that she's going to enrich all of you,
the league, the contracts, the arenas. She is way better,
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way sooner than anybody realized. The lead to its credit
started off slow and has finally figured it out. But
since the All Star Game where she finally got rest,
because remember with THEBA, once the season's over. In college,
you have the draft and you play, you don't get
time off like guys. She's averaging twenty five nine assists,
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forty eight percent from the field, and her pace in
tempo is different than everybody else in this sport, everybody else.
So don't fight the tide, ride the wave. Tom Brady's
coming up next live in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It's the Herd.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noone Easter, not a im Pacific.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, we're back. I'm so fired up. You know,
I always knew i'd be Tom Brady's teammate. I figured
I'd be a slot corner. I'm very twitchy. Let's bring
him on, Tom Brady the opener, cowboyle living Browns. I
always knew when I was Connecticut, I'm like, you know what,
I should go down there, show Belichick my back pedal.
(27:55):
But you know, we're different kind of teammates. Let me
start with that. That's an interesting one.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Your football career.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's not real interesting. So you exhale, you retire, you exhale,
and you probably gave yourself about four or five months
just kind of just take a deep breath. I saw
you slim down. You probably weren't sore for the first
time in twenty years. And then you start prepping. You
sign with Fox. What have you been doing to prepare
for this opening broadcast for a year and a half.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Well, I've reached out to all the different people that
I've met over the years of in media and sports
and got their take on kind of what the job entailed.
And then ultimately how the preparation goes during the week
and then how do you be really good when you
come on air. And I've had a lot of time,
I think over the course of my career in interviews,
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production meetings, and being on camera. Yeah, that hopefully it's
not too far from what I've already experienced, knowing that
there's going to be a lot of things that are
new to this. So I think the most exciting part
for me is there's more of a structure to my life.
But you're always enjoyed playing football on the weekends. Now
I get to work on the weekends here in the fall,
and obviously the NFL football season.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Is back, which is we're all excited about that.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
I'm sure when you're walking into the studio today, it's
a different feeling because you know, this new cycle round
n football is very exciting, and I'm excited to get going.
I got the best teammates in the world, you know,
KB and Aaron Tom and then everyone behind the scenes in.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
The truck Zee Russ, their whole team.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
The chance to get to know those people more intimately
and to really put together something special for the audience
is what's exciting for me.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So I'm ready for football season.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I'm ready to get back out there and watch from
a different perspective. And we're fortunate to be in Cleveland
this weekend with a great game in Cleveland Dallas, and
they can't get here soon enough.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
So when you look at this film, all these years
of experience, one of the things I asked mysel Off
about Cleveland. I love the coach, I love the GM,
I love the old line. What's up with Deshaun Watson?
I mean you can play, he didn't play. Are you
seeing anything in this matchup just on film from last
year that you are saying, Man, I got to see
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this developed, Like, is there a really interesting element that
you can't wait to see?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I think there's a lot of storylines in this particular game.
But the interesting part about the NFL is nobody really
knows what they're going to be this season. You have hopes,
you bring in draft picks, free agents, and you try
to put together your team to say, all right, this
is the way that we want to play based on.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Where our deficiencies were last year.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Certainly Cleveland's defense was top of the league last year.
They want to continue that. They want to get to
Sean back. They brought in a whole offensive staff to
try to get him to play the way that he
played when he was in Houston. Yeah, and they want
to go out there and compete, not just for a
division title, but for more than that. And it's a
great kind of test for them to go against Dallas,
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who you know, they want to get over the hump
as well. And they've got a lot of great players.
They've got a lot of great talent. You know, they
got to get to you know, I think coach McCarthy,
they have a great leader and coach McCarthy that really preaches, hey,
we want to stay focused day after day. We want
to eliminate the distractions and and they've had quite a
few of that this offseason, but every team does, and
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I feel like Dallas is handled it very well. And
it's a great opening game. This is what it's all about.
A lot of guys coming back from injury. You got
Treron Diggs up there. I want to see him play,
and I want to see what Dak does coming off
last season, his best season as a pro. So so
many great things to watch in this particular game. And again,
it's a perfect day for football. It seems like it's
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going to be in Cleveland on Sunday. It's not always
like that. There from someone who's been there a few times. Yeah,
but sixty five degrees and partly Claude's perfect perfect football weather.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, Trent Williams back, and we've said this before. I
feel Trent Williams was more and I like Brandon Ayuk.
I think the team is Kyle Shanahan's brain, McCaffrey's legs,
and Trent Williams and Bosa. That's the soul of the team.
Tell me, what is the difference if you knew you
had Trent Williams and he didn't play, would it get
in your head? I think his signing is gigantic for
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the Niners. You tell me how much it matters. I
would be driving him to work every day. If I
was the quarterback, I'd be making sure Trent was with
me every single place I went.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
There's no better protector in the NFL than Trent over
the years, and I think the way they use him,
and obviously they I think San Francisco's run game is incredible,
the way they scheme their run game up. But having
Trent in there, it's just an entirely different offense because
of his athleticism, his rare combination of size, of quickness
of power. I mean, he's just and he gets out
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there on the fields. He's a matchup advantage for the
Niners every time that he takes a snap out there.
So when they have him out there, they all feel confident.
A lot of those book players are going to go
at the left side of the line of scrimmage right
behind him. They know that when he's in past protection,
he's gonna hold up as well as anybody, doesn't really
matter who he goes against, a tremendous player, and it's night.
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There's a you know, between the Ayux signing and Trent.
I mean that was a little worriessome a few weeks ago.
I actually did a practice game against the Saints up
in Santa Clara a couple weeks ago, and everyone's cut
a bit concern.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
But I think now a lot.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Of those concerned are ease when both those guys are
back in the building and ready to take their put
their pads on, go out to practice and get ready
to play game.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, Chiefs Ravens Thursday, Kansas City's done this dance and
they keep winning it. I love Lamar, I love Baltimore,
I love the coach, I love the owner. I think
it's the best run franchise arguably last decade in the league.
I think Baltimore does everything well except win. In late January,
you tell me, does it start wearing on you? Buffalo's
going through this, Tom you start hearing you can't win
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these games? Is the pressure on Kansas City to defend
the home field or Baltimore Thursday?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I'd say a little bit more on Baltimore for that
exact reason. I think that when you have great leadership,
and I think of those Baltimore teams when they had
Ray Lewis and Ed Reid as their two primary leaders,
they even though they may lost.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
In a championship game.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I actually saw this the other day, a clip from
Ray Lewis in the locker room after they had lost
to US I think in twenty eleven in the championship game,
and how Ray talked about that team and how we
wanted to get them back on track going in the
next year. That's always what it's about. When you lose
in the playoffs, you want to think about, how are
we going to get over the hump next year?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
What do we need to do?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Where are our deficiencies? Where can we get a little better?
Where's our margin of air? Is it taking care of
the football? Is at third down? Is it scoring points
in the reddar? Is it production from a unit that
we haven't got a lot of production from tight end groupings,
running back groupings. How can we improve our team a
little bit so when we get these big games, we're
more prepared than the other team.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
We got more margin of air and look.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
To win a super Bowl is absolutely incredibly difficult.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
There's only one thing that does it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
To do what the Chiefs have done is really remarkable,
and they want to try to do it again. That
challenge of them doing it is going to be as
hard a challenge as any team the NFL's ever had.
That's why it's never happened to win three in a row.
But the Chiefs are poised like they always are to
go in there. I don't think they believe their hype.
They're very well coached, obviously a great quarterback, great leaders.
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The defense played really well last year, so those guys
are prepared. Baltimore wants what the Chiefs got, and that's
why you lead the season off the way they have
it Ravens Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I'm excited to see that one get underway too.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I couldn't tell you the last time I was this
excited to watch the Chicago Bears play and the Washington Commanders.
And that's the great gift the NFL gives us is
that we watch these great college players for three and
four and five years, and all of a sudden I
have an emotional investment. I can't wait to watch Jaden
and Caleb. Give me one thing that you'll see with
the one young quarterback. You may see it with Drake May.
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The one thing that Tom Brady will see that I
can't that you'll be like, Okay, he's going to be okay,
He's going to be okay. What does a young quarterback?
Is it the feat? Is it the head movement? What
do you see that I can't that you would know
it's going to work? Well.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
I think there's lots of ways you can look at
a quarterback play, and I think it's very easily to
evaluate the physical aspect of the game. How well he
throws the ball, how fast his feet are when he
drops back in the pocket. Can you escape the pocket
and make some plays on the run. For me, I
think the sustainable part about quarterbacking is really what's up
here is what's in the brain. Are you snapping the
ball and running good plays consistently against the defenses that.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You're out there watching as you're reading the defenses.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
So so much of it to me is our just
is the coach giving the quarterback because he's going to
see it every day in practice. The coach and the players.
Are they given the quarterback the freedom to make the
plays and the decisions that he needs to make to
get the team to win Because a lot of these
guys can throw the ball, a lot of them can
move in the pocket. Now watching Caleb do it, he's
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exceptional at it right, But to me, it's a deeper
level than that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
When you're looking at starting quarterbacks the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Everybody should be able to throw the ball well, everybody
should be able to.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Drop back and make accurate throws.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
It's what can you do when you're in front on
the road, in front of seventy thousand people, and every
single player in the offensive uttles look at you and
your eyes going does this guy have the confidence in
himself to bring us back?
Speaker 3 (37:33):
When we're losing in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
And I think that's the mark of what I see
in quarterbacks when I watch them.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I want to say, Okay, does this guy have the maturity?
Does he have the poise?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Does he have the composure to be at his best
when his team needs him the most?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Ninety seconds Drake May would you sit him? I don't
think there's a right answer. Would just sit him? Or
would you just put his feet to the fire and
let it rip?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
So I mean, I'd gone on record to say that
I think it's best, in my opinion, for young quarterbacks
and rookie quarterbacks to.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Kind of watch a veteran do it.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
And there's so much that goes on and quarterbacks need
to process so much information so quickly, and I think
if you can have someonehen I sat behind Drew Bledsell
my first year. What a great player he was someone
that I got to watch and learn from. Aaron Rodgers
watched behind Brett Fahr, Patrick Mahomes watch behind Alex Smith.
So when you have a real pro in front of you,
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they can help with that learning curve.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Email though that young quarterback isn't.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Necessarily going out there and losing confidence in what his
abilities are. So you know, ultimately those young players are
going to get opportunities. The franchises need those young quarterbacks
to come in and take a big step and lead that.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Franchise on into the future. Right.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
I'd just like to give them a little bit of
time to acclimate themselves to the pro game, the pro schedule,
and it's a big difference between college football and professional football.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
We got about ninety seconds left. Week one is different
than it used to be. Tom nobody plays in the
preseason veterans. I mean, the the Jets and the Niners.
Some of these older teams are not playing anybody, so
there could be upsets galore. It is. I mean, if
you had a lean in Dallas Cleveland, because there's so
many good veteran players in that. We'll circle back for
(39:16):
about ninety seconds. Now, what do you think the game
looks like? Cowboys Browns? What does it look like to start?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I think it's a defensive game. I think you got
two great defenses. Coach Zimmer is.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
A huge addition to that Dallas defense.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
They've got a lot of the same players coming back
on Dallas's defense.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Cleveland does as well.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
I think both offenses they're not quite the running games
they've had in the past due to some injuries, so
they've had some offensive line shuffling going around on both teams.
So I think it's gonna be a little bit more
of a passing game. And I don't know if those
passing games are quite in midseason form yet with the
way that these you know, CD wasn't in camp, you
(39:56):
know that didn't have a lot of looks at that,
So again, some of these passing games may take a
little time to develop. So I think it's going to
be a really a very good defensive game. Two great coordinators,
a couple of the best defensive lines pass rushers in
the NFL going. So I don't think it's a zero
three nothing game. But I don't think it's a high flying, scoring,
(40:17):
all over the place game either.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, last week in Week one, it was I'm always
amazed the college kids play so well in week one
without preseason, these NFL games week one, there's going to
be a huge upset. Veterans don't play, so you don't
know what you're getting.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
You don't think the pro football is a lot more
fair than college football. When you see these college football
games and you got a directional Tennessee school versus Alabama,
there's not much chance that. Yeah, it's it's tough for
those teams to come in and compete against the big dogs.
So in the NFL, look, this is as fair as
it gets, which is why everyone loves his sport and
salary cap.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's so many things that you know. All these teams
have the.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Ability to recompromise their roster and deal with them in
the best possible way and try to be the best
team they could be.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Great. Seeing you, good luck Hour two next
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