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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go Friday, hour two. We're live
in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you may be,
however you may be listening. That's the time of the
day that I was going to pass on the Blazing five,
and then I slept on it. I gave it great
consideration and said, what's the worst thing that could happen?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I could go, oh and five. That happened last year.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And I survived. I mean, oh and five, it's not
the worst thing in the world. I overcame. It hit
fifty five. Some of my bats got red hot last
twelve weeks of the year, and I don't have high
hopes on this. J Max picks in two hours.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm gonna give it a run.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I think it's being part of the team. Sometimes you
gotta suck it up for the team.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Jmack.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'm flying blind here because I have no idea for
half of these teams. What I haven't seen them any
of the starters play. I'm flying blind.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
It's not how you start, right, it's how you finished.
And you finished strong last year.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Let's go here, we go blazing five fire away.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Shot, Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins blazing
fuck Titans at Bears.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
All right, I am going to take the Titans plus
three and a half at Chicago, both teams undefeated in
the preseason. Will Levis now has actual weapons. Tony Pollard,
Calvin Ridley, Lagerius Snead. It's a whole new coaching staff.
All Tennessee has heard all off seat is how they're
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gonna get run out of the building by this frena phenom.
By the way, the Bears never open well two to
eight in their last ten openers. They had the fewest
sacks last year in the last couple of years in
the NFL. Also, the number one pick as a rookie
quarterback in the common draft era is four fifteen and
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one in the opener nine straight since David car won.
Bottom line here is I think maybe if they played
in six weeks. It would be different, way, way too
much hype. You can get this at plus four and
a lot of places shop the number. I'm gonna take
the Titans to up set the Chicago Bears. The final
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score twenty six to twenty four Panthers at six. I
like the Panthers plus four. In fact, I think they
could win. You may want to bet money line. They've
got a new head coach, Dave Kanalis. He's the one
that gave Baker Mayfield that great season last year. For Baker,
they have upgraded on the O line, ed rusher. Wide
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receiver Bryce Young in the last month last year was
not terrible, completed sixty five percent of his throws mid
eighty passer rating with a battle line in bad receivers
Dennis Allen, I think argument worst coach in the league
on the hot seat. Their offensive line was second worst
in the league, and they didn't generate a pass rush.
The Panthers defense even last year, though it was on
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the field constantly. The Panthers defense was top five and
six in many categories. The Panthers win this game outright.
Take the points. Twenty four to twenty. Broncos at Seahawks
I'm gonna take Seattle minus six. I can think bo
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Nicks is gonna have a good year and also think
this is a terrible spot. Gino Smith has had back
to back Pro Bowl years. He's a grown up, he's
an adult. He won't be nervous, and he's at home.
Mike McDonald is the new Seahawks coach. He is a
whiz defensively. The Ravens had the number one scoring defense
with him. Seattle's got the weapons here Kenneth Walker, DK Metcalf,
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Tyler Lockett, Jason Smith, and nickbah Noah Fan Denver. Meanwhile,
defense struggles rookie on the road, by the way, first
round rookie quarterbacks in Week one, not taking number one,
but just first round rookie quarterbacks in Week one, thirteen
twenty six and one all time passer rating at sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
The Seahawks win.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's close to the line, twenty seven to twenty. Take
Seattle minus the points to cover and win. Ramsid Liars,
I usually don't do this, but I'm gonna take the
Lions minus four and a half. The line was better.
I'll tell you why. I'm gonna thread the needle here.
In five weeks I wouldn't do this. Ramse o line's
a mess there. Move their center to guard their right tackle.
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Their best on lineman may not play. They're left tackle.
They're using a backup and Detroit's pass rush has been
the talk of their camp. This is a team in Detroit,
more players in their prime. Rams are a very young team.
Jared Goff at home is forty two and nine in
the think about that. Jared Goff at Home last two
seasons forty two and nine touchdown interception not his record
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forty two touchdowns, nine picks. He is a great indoor quarterback.
He is a great home quarterback. And Matt Stafford is
an older quarterback. And I love Matt, but last year
he only completed sixty three percent of his throws. Poka
Naku has been banged up. Cooper Cup's coming off an injury.
I do not like the Rams in this spot, in
this moment in a month. I take the points. I
think the Lions win and I think they cover thirty
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to twenty four. Detroit Jet said forty nine ers very
close game. I'm taking the points. Take the Jets plus
four and a half. I think it comes down to
a field goal at to very end. But you got
to take the Jets.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Listen. They won three of their.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Last five last year, and they were terrible at quarterback.
They've added Mike Williams, a couple of offensive linemen. Hassan
Redick won't play, he will eventually. This should be a
good team. Their offensive line features three new starters. I'm
okay with that because they're upgrades in all of them.
And now elijahvia Tucker is healthy, Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall.
They have big time playmakers the Niners. McCaffrey's hurd, Trent
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Williams just got into camp super noisy. The Ricky Pearsall incident,
I don't like him in the spot. Again, what I
feel differently a month and a half from now, I
think the Niners are going to start slow. If you
look at the Jets defense last season, and again, they
were on the field the whole year top two and
three in many categories. Now they get an offense, it's
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a more rested defense. I like the Jets to cover.
I'm gonna go Niners to win twenty four to twenty three.
But I think if you look if there's a time
to beat the Niners in this spot, it is now.
They've been a circus for a month now. I'm not
saying that Jets don't have issues, but the Jets feel
like outside of Hassan Reddick, we haven't heard much in
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the last three weeks. Oh, there's a book on Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
he didn't write it. I kind of feel like the
Jets noise has subsided. I mean, I got San Francisco stuff.
I still don't know if Brandon I who likes his contract.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So there we go. The Blazing five in review.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm gonna take the Titans, Panthers, and Jets as dogs
and the Seahawks and Lions as favorite again. Week one
is different. I'm betting against a rookie quarterback because I
think Bonnicks is going to be overWe That's one of
the loudest stadiums, one of the best defensive young coaches.
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That is a top spot for him. Eric Mangini, Fox
Sports NFL analyst joins us right now Live, Eric Mangini,
I want to start with the Blazing five real quick.
I said, if I would love to coach Tennessee, I
could literally turn the TV on and say for six months,
look how great they are. Oh, Chicago's gonna blow us out.
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Oh my god's the best team I've ever seen in
my life. We haven't talked about Tennessee for a minute
on any of these shows. I honestly think the pr
psychology advantage for Tennessee in Week one is substantial.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Eric, what say you.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah? When you're talking about your blazing five and how
hard it was last year and how hard it is
this year. It's the same thing from a coaching perspective.
You really don't know what you're gonna get. You don't
necessarily know what you're gonna get from your opponent in
terms of how they how they've changed structurally, tendency wise, personnel,
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and you don't really know what you're gonna get from
your guys either. What is nice for Tennessee in this
situation is there's no pressure. All the pressure is on
the Bears, all the pressure is on Caleb Williams. And
that's a nice place to be going into the first
game of the season, especially with a with a rookie
head coach.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And by the way, similarly with bo Nicks a great example.
I like him a lot. On the road, Mike McDonald
pass rush noisy stadium. If you were Sean Payton. Is
there a way to manage a young quarterback?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You had far so you had you had a guy
that had been in those wars. But I look at
these young quarterbacks in Week one, Jade and Daniels, all
of them, and I'm thinking, I think I try to
pass like fourteen times.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What do you do? What do you tell them?
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Well, ideally, what you do is you get him some
comfort passes early, some typically easy completions, whether it's a
wide receiver, screen quick passes, something to get a little
bit of rhythm and a little bit of confidence going that.
That's one component ideally, not get him hit early. And
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then if you can do anything at all with the
running game to slow down the pass rush, that that
helps too. And it's it's trying to get them not
to feel overcaffeinated, not to just just pressing everything, so
you can get them to that first say ten to
fifteen plays where it's the calm down. Then they realize, Okay,
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this is like the football I've been playing my whole life. Yeah,
and you get over that first level of nerves.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So I've been saying that I felt like last year
was the year to get Kansas City, the receiving court
bit of a mess. I watched them last night and
I'm like, all right, worthies over the top. Rashi Rice
looks like he's developed into a one. Now they've got
two tight ends Juju Smith, Schuster, Hollywood Brown, They'll get
ramped up. I don't know, Eric, It's like I watched
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them last night and it feels like a better version
of the CHIEFEPS than last year?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Does it not?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Well, especially when you consider the fact that they didn't
really run the ball very well with Tenko and Travis
Kelcey had what thirty four yards, so it's not like
Kelsey was even a fan, and they still went out
and hung twenty seven points. You probor most excited about
Worthy in the sense that he created two big plays,
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and that's what was really missing last last season. They
didn't They didn't generate very many big plays all season long.
And now he comes out in his first game is
able to generate two big plays that and you're starting
a rookie left tackle, and he didn't do it too badly.
He didn't do too badly against the team that historically
pass rushes really well, So that's that's encouraging. Also, yeah,
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this is this is problematic for everybody else in the league.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I didn't love Lamar running at sixteen times. I said earlier,
I kind of feel like Kansas City's different, Like he's
just gonna do what he's gonna do against Kansas City.
But I watched that and I thought that's not sustainable.
He took like twelve shots last night. Well, that's not
a sustainable formulae, is it, Colin.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I didn't like a lot of aspects of it. So
he loses the weight. In the offseason, they go and
get a bell cow and Derrick Henry. You think that
they're going to be able to run the ball successfully
with Derrick Henry and take some of that pressure off
of Lamar as a runner. And then last night he
does run sixteen times. Now ten of those are scrambles.
What I didn't like is why are you dropping back
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fifty one times? And I understand they were down by
a touchdown late and later in the game. I get it,
but those numbers. You know, last year he threw or
drop back over forty times. Only one time it was
in Week thirteen, where he had forty three attempts. Last
night he has forty one plus the ten scrambles, So
it's fifty one times that to me is not who
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the Ravens should be or need to be. And then
when he is running the ball, You're right, he's taking
unnecessary hits and it's going to add up, or it's
someone's gonna someone's gonna hit him hard enough that it's
gonna be back to a couple of years ago where
he wasn't able to finish the season.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You know, we we were talking about Philadelphia and Green Bay,
and I said, it really is interesting. There's a difference
between impulsive ownership and decisive ownership. Philadelphia does what a
lot of bad franchises do, and they're not a bad franchise.
They move off really good people. Carson Wentz, Chip Kelly,
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Doug Peterson like stuff that's working, they move off it,
and they usually make the right decisions. Chip Kelly's a
better college coach. Jalen Hurts is better than Carson Wentz,
Doug Peterson. Probably it was time they got to a
super Bowl with Sirianni and so I look at them
and I think to myself, I could see despite getting
to a super Bowl, if this thing go sideways, I
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could see him moving off, Siriannie. I think he's on
his big a hot seat, is Mike McCarthy because Jerry
Jones tends to give you an extra year or two.
Philadelphia will move off you if you beat Belichick in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Them out and coach him.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
What do you when you look at the NFL, You've
had impulsive owners in your career as a coach.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Philadelphia doesn't.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But it's funny, Eric, Philadelphia does the same thing, but
they never feel impulsive to me, Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
No, I don't think you are. One of the reasons
I like Philly to win the division this year is
because of their willingness in the off season to go
address the problem that they had, and they do. They
do a good job of looking at what went wrong
in the previous year and aggressively trying to attack that.
So they had problems in the secondary, They went out
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and aggressively tried to attack the secondary and had help
there this offseason. They didn't like the situation with the coordinators.
You go get a guy like vic Fanjoe. You know
that shol add some stability to the defense and it's
it seems measured, it seems targeted. It doesn't feel emotional
where they're they're just reacting to what the fans want
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them to do, or they're angry about how the season ended.
It does seem more measured. And then the follow up
steps I really like because they aggressively attack the needs
and must.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, so I think Monday Night is as good a
Monday Night game as you get. Jets and Niners. We're
calling it the Baggage Bowl because there's been so much
talk with both of them. But I do feel like
the Jets have sort of wrapped up their baggage over
the last month, and the Niners, I'm not sure. Brandon
Iuka is terribly happy, Ricky pearsall almost a tragedy. Trent
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Williams can't be in the best shape. McCaffrey's calf. I
think the Niners in this spot are a vulnerable team.
You've been around noisy off seasons. You know, when you
coach in New York, it's noisy.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But I do feel like the Jets noise has sort
of subsided. They had an you know, the Egypt trip
to camp. What are your feelings on this opening game?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, I think you referred to San Francisco as a
circus and the Jets are more like a carnival. It's
like there's always that, there's always something sort of happening
in the background. And unfortunately, a lot of that noise
has come from Aaron and to me at this point,
whether it's the missing the training camp, not playing in
the preseason, saying that he could have played last year
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and you know, if they had made the playoffs, getting
the additional offensive line, hope that they did. You know,
they revamped it again, they get Mike Williams, all these
things that they've done. Now it's time for Aaron Rodgers
to pay the bill. It's time to pay the bill.
And they are fortunate in the sense that San Francisco
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hasn't had a quiet offseason.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Now.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
The downside is they still got Brandon Ayuk back. He
may not be happy, but he's still lining up for
the forty nine Ers, which is a lot worse case
scenario for the Jets. And if he had been traded
away to to the Steelers or somebody else and all
the other stars are there, the continuity is there with
the forty nine Ers. It's it's a better place to
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catch him right now with the noisy off season, but
they still have all those stars that are that are
going to be there on Monday, which which is gonna
make it hard for New York.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I'm watching that game last night. This league is
so magical.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know that everybody hates that new kickoff, but I
will say I watched it. I was joking with the
staff this morning. This league struggled to figure out the
catch rule for a decade. I'm going to give him
a pass on the kickoff. They'll tinker with it. When
you watch it, it looks weird. I can't get used
to the optics of it as a coach. What I mean,
most of them just went into the end zone last night.
What do you make of the new kickoff?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Yeah, typically what happened with that is is someone someone
finds the sweet spot, everybody copies it and one Once
we get enough of these kickoffs on tape, you will
start to see the best practices. And each special teams
coach kind of has a different philosophy. But a lot
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of guys are looking at as as another run, whether
it's an outside run or an inside run, and kind
of scheming it up that way as opposed to thinking
of it in terms of a kickoff type situation, so
you'll see guys trapping, you'll see guys pulling across the formation.
It's I'm really looking forward to seeing some of the
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unique Special Teams coaches and what they pull out of
their hat.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I do see potential for some big hits here, because
even though you won't get out of your lane because
you don't have as far to run, it does feel
like a little bit if you can get past the
first wave, you're kind of gone. Where the way it
used to go is the bigger guys on Special teams
would become the second wave of it, and you had
to get through two or three waves. Now it's like
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if you break through the first one, you may be
on your way. So to your point, I think it's
gonna take about three weeks and one hundred of these
kickoffs and then we're gonna get a sense on what works.
Eric Mangini, Fox Sports NFL analysts love to have you coach.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Thanks again, great seeing Kon.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All right, Yeah, listen, I watched all the kickoffs. I mean,
it's weird looking, but this is a league that takes
a while, It tinkers a lot, it's it's it makes moves.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
They're just trying to keep you around and not go
to the fridge and grab a beer. So I watched them.
I just think it's weird. You don't have as far
to run, but it feels like it's just one wave
because no, you don't run far enough to separate guys
when you had a longer run. The fast guys created
the first line, the slower guys the second line. Then
the kicker was the third line. Now even a kicker
can kind of keep up. It's just basically one wave
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of guys. And if you break through the first wave,
I think we're gonna get about double the number of
kickoffs for touchdowns over the course of the year. I
think last year we had four. I think we'll get
eight to ten. But I do think the majority of
what will happen is just not bringing it out.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
That's what it felt like last night.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I don't want to go back too deep into the
blazing five, but Titans Bears, you're picking the Titans to
win that out right now? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, interesting, that's the number.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Though our number DraftKings has three and a half, it
was four and a half for like the entire summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can get a better number potentially, but there's money
on the time. The one game I did not bet,
which all the gamblers like, and I'm probably wrong. Everybody
likes the Colts because it's a division home underdog and
the numbers tell you just bet the Colts. Just I
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like Houston so much. I just don't know if Anthony
Richardson he's got seventeen pro starts, well, he's got seventeen
starts as a quarterback in his college and pro career.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I just don't have enough data on.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
By the way, do you remember Colts Texans was Week
eighteen last year? It was the night of your birthday party.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And I'll never forget. Chip Kelly was there watching the
game and I'm like, hey, what are they dialing up here?
On fourth down? He's a going at the running back
will be wide open, and the guy dropped the pass.
Otherwise the Texans don't go to the playoffs and the
hype machine is now back and that was with Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
So I think the Colts.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Definitely can play with them this weekend. I took a
nibble on the money line.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
You know, No, I mean I think there's a couple
of money line bets, Carolina Colts and Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
On the money line.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I can't get there with Tennessee, but it's gonna be
interesting if they beat Caleb and like will Levice somehow
looks better than Caleb Williams because you've been kind of
you've been kind of banging on, shall we say, will
Levis since pre draft. If he shows up Caleb Williams
in his home opener, that would be something.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's listen Tennessee. I love the coach, I love the acquisitions.
This is a better team. The roster last year was
all lobsided. All the talent was on one side of
the ball. Now it's much more evenly dispersed. I would
argue there's more talent now, arguably on the offensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Well, they used to be so Dereck Henry. Oh, we
got Derek Henman.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We also have now a quarterback whisperer. So Will Levis
had Vrabel. You know, he's an old, tough guy, great coach.
But I would say for young quarterbacks there's a clear
advantage early years for Joe Burrow to have a Zach Taylor,
for Goff to have a Sean McVay for Brock Purdy
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to have a Shanahan. So when you have a young
quarterback especially, That's why I've said I think bow Knicks
at the end of this year, we're going to look
up and think, was bo Knicks the best most productive quarterback?
Not because he's more talented, He's got basically the mentor.
And so Will Levis needs a young offensive coach and
better weapons.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
Well what did they give it?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, So I just think it doesn't matter for Tom Brady,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
For Mahomes now Stafford, Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
But your first three years in the league, it is
a complete difference. You either have to have an offensive
head coach or like Houston, a great offensive coordinate.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You could say Tennessee is gonna be is the most
mysterious team heading into Week one. They could hang thirty
three on the Bears, or they could score like six
points and look awful.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
And neither of those.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Months sweats not one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
On the on the Bear. That's not great, that's not
great news. I'm rooting for Caleb just to get it
out there.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Oh so no, no, I are you going to the game.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
By the way, considering it, but I've got another labor
intensive weekend.
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Speaker 2 (23:54):
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Speaker 8 (23:56):
All right, We've got some breaking news in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
T Higgins was listed as limited in practice on Thursday
with the hamstring injury, and all of a sudden, he
is not practicing today at all, forty eight hours before
the matchup against the Patriots Colin This is horrible news
for the Bengals. They lose Tyler Boyd in the offseason,
They're slocked down. Jamar Chase is embroiled in a contract discussion.
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He has not been part of the team really, he's
been around the facility. Whatever he wants an extension, And
now T Higgins is not practicing on Friday.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Usually, if you don't practice Friday, you don't play.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Usually. Now they're going.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
All three wide receivers potentially from last year are gone.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
For the opener against the Patriots. I know a lot
of people are loading up on the Bengals and survivor.
You know, you pick just a team just to win.
This all of a sudden becomes very dicey.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I think you gotta shift to Seattle because I don't
know if Joe Burrogen get this done with no receivers.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Colin, you look concerned.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, I think t Higgins will play. I think if
you have forty eight hours the hamstring it's sore. Not
practicing on Friday is just precautionary.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
This is a big season for him as well. He's
looking for to get paid, so he had. Jamar Chase
just talked to the media for about ten minutes and
said he would consider playing even without an extension what
and that he would be a game time decision, but
if he did play, he'd be limited, meaning what like
a pitch count for Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I don't they're gonna win this game, but it's a
stay away game for me, total stay away. I think
it's if these guys don't play.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think there's top four skill position guys from last
year may not play Joe mix and the mix is gone.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, I almost thought he was underrated. I think Mixon's
really good. That's it's something. This is supposed to be
the blowout of the week.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
When you look at the schedule for the Bengals, you're like, Okay,
we'll start with a win here. You like pencil that in.
You're a big favorite. You don't want to start with
this with a loss.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
That would be bad.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
And oh, by the way, guess who's looming on deck
next week?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Take a look.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, Patrick Mahomes dext week and then so now three
weeks after that, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
You gotta win.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
This is supposed to be a w for them. I
think t Higgins gonna play precautionary Friday. Don't practice you did.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Burrow's potentially overlooking this.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
This There's a reason I take Fridays off in the summer.
I want to be good for Monday. It's precautionary. Don't
want to use my voice up a little extra day,
I'll get horse.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I want to be good for Monday.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I don't want to start behind the eight ball. I
don't think the Ravens are as good as everybody else.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I didn't be able to you don't like the Bengals, Well, no.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I'm saying the Ravens in that division. I think the
Bengals should win the division. But now if you lose
this and then the Chiefs, then you start zering too,
you're behind the eight ball and the Ravens probably win
it again.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, I can hear Ryan back here. He's a little
nervous Bengals fan.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm excited for Joe Burrow and the white hair and
put on twenty pounds. I'm excited for him. I think
Joe is we talked about this the other day. After
all these injuries, I think Joe's like living in the moment.
He went to Paris this offseason, all the fashion shows.
I think Joe's like, you know what, I'm going to
enjoy the hell out of this ride. I don't know
how long it's going to last. I'm one more big
injury away from I don't know if I'm gonna last,
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but I'm gonna enjoy this thing, and I can't. I
want to watch this team play. Let's not forget that
Burrow went into Arrowhead and went toe to toe with Mahomes.
Yeah he is, He's Lamar better from the pocket. He's
Josh Allen, but more efficient. He's a little kryptonite to
Kansas City if he's up right.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
But I like that outlook because that's that's the way
I look at it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
I know you're a tough boss, and yeah, things.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
May not go the way we wanted to, and I
just got to live for them, to live in the moment.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
So let's go back to the New York Jets, shall we.
They're facing Christian McCaffrey and the Niners.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But Colin, speaking of injury news, McCaffrey has had a
calf issue and guess what. He returned to practice this
week and all of a sudden, they added achilles to
his injury designation, So it's now a.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Calf and an achilles.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Kyle Shanahan told reporters the achilles was nothing new, but
it was related to his calf strain.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
He claims there's no concern about Monday night.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Man.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
You look at some of these heavyweights. We don't know
Trent Williams are gonna play.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't worry about McCaffrey. I don't really.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I don't think he should play a preseason game, a
preseason snap for the rest of his career. If I
see Christian McCaffrey take a snap in a preseason game
and I'm Jed York, I'm calling Shanahan up to my office.
McCaffrey doesn't need to take a snap until after Labor Day.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah, how about this. He hasn't taken a step and
he's already hurt.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
What what has hurt me?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
A calf's last achilles? That's I would say that's some concern.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
If you're a finely tuned athlete, your calf's ohays a
little sore. I don't think that's injured. You know what?
You know what sora is called Tuesday in the NFL.
I'm not worried about Hey, Bob sore, Oh, you're playing okay?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I mean, look, who's not sore in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I'm sore just thinking about last night and beating Lamar Jackson.
He's waking up on an ice bap today.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That was There's no way that Lamar Jackson can play
like that the rest of the season. No shot, and
he's lost like ten pounds, so he's skinnier.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
The final story is Chargers Raiders.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Last time they faced off, the Raiders won sixty three
to twenty one. That was under Brandon Staley. He got
fired I think within seventy two hours. Now Jim Harball's
taken over.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Derwin James, who was at that game, doesn't want to
be reminded of last year's nightmare performance.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
What was your reaction when he saw Raiders requone, let's
let's go.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I was.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I was literally like, let's go.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
I was, let's go.
Speaker 8 (29:27):
He is that related at all to the last time
he go athleted this man?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Tim?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
He know that Red Comb man? You know that?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yes, yes, man can't bass anything like that.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I feel like we had at this spot. But we
gotta go out there Sundays to show it to the world.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
He's been the best athlete on that team for four years.
They just can't keep him healthy. He's an incredible athlete.
He was a great as a rookie. He walked on.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
He was the best player on that team as a rookie.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Had a bunch of late hits last year.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, I mean, he's he's one of those He's like
Jamal Adams, but he's a better, way better than Jamon. Yeah,
but he's like there's no question about the velocity in
which he place.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
He is a both that can stay healthy, which has
been a major question mark for this team.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Yeah, the defense will be good. I'm worried about them against.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I just stay away game again. This is a divisional rival,
home underdog. No, it's fine, it'll feel like a home game.
That's still a weird game, but it's that game is
a I'm nervous thinking about that game. Like I just
there are certain games I just stayed away from, like
this game. I'm just staying away from tonight's game in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I don't even know what to make of it.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, I see there's some Packers money hitting the market today.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I like Green Bay in it. I listen. I I
Peter Schrager last hour. He's a big Packer believer this year.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Really.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Oh, I am too. I would not be shocked if
they're hoisting the trophy. Oh my god, No, I'm not
staying there're a favorite.
Speaker 8 (30:49):
Were they in the Super Bowl bubble yesterday? Or were
they outside of it?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
In the bubble? Right, smack dab.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
In the money.
Speaker 8 (30:55):
It's funny.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Oh, by the way, I didn't get to call you
out on this yesterday, So you had your top ten
teams of Falcons were a ten ahead of the Jets.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yet for some reason, the Falcons not in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well, come out, time out. That's not let's contextualize it.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
Please.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
The Jets playing a great division, the Falcons played a
terrible one. That's a totally different I don't think the Falcons
are a super Bowl team. They're gonna win whoever wins
that division, Atlanta. It's going twelve games.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Yes, so they're gonna host a playoff game or more so.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What doesn't mean they're a super Bowl team?
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I thought if you had the number one seed, you're
a super Bowl contendency.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Had the number one seed with Tannehill years ago. We
didn't think they were going to win the Super Bowl.
They were in a crappy division. It's like it's like saying, well,
you win the Big Twelve, you're the best college football. No,
you win a bad you win a bad conference. Central
Florida was undefeated. You think they're gonna beat Alabama?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
No?
Speaker 8 (31:41):
No, college football is totally different.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
If the Falcons have home field advantage and it's in
a dome, that they're gonna lose in the NFC because
if the Eagles get it colin outdoors, that's a hugely.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Different situation going to Philadelphia January.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
For Philadelphia is going to Atlanta in a playoff game.
Philadelphia is winning the game. That means Philadelphia is good
and healthy.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
They're winning the game.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
I like the Eagles a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
You get into seeding, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Atlanta is not a super Bowl team, but a division
winning team. Absolutely, that division stinks. It's the worst by
a mile in the sport Anta Sweet.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Jama Quin news.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Speaker 1 (32:24):
I think I was wrong on Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That was it wrong?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I toldja a fun player. He's not going to decide it.
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Speaker 6 (33:28):
A lot of you feeling I was wrong last night
with the debut of Baber xavior Worthy, tiny receiver for
the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
No, I wasn't. I said he's tiny. He was hurt
a lot in college and Super Bowls in January and February.
Don't run through one hundred and sixty five pound track guys.
But he's fun, he's exciting, he'll score touchdowns. He's a
gadget guy, and I think they need an over the
top weapon. He'll get to the end zone. One of
the touchdowns was a blown cover. But he's just a
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unique player. But Rashie Rice had seven catches, Isaiah Likely
had nine catches for Baltimore. Those are volume receivers. That's
what quarterbacks depend on A Travis Kelcey Rashi Rice, Larry Fitzgerald,
a guy that's a volume receiver. That's not to say
that speed guys don't matter. But you know who didn't
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play much, and he didn't play much in February these
days Tyreek Hill, and Tyreek Hill's a lot bigger than xavier'
worthy and you read after the game likes him, but
he thinks what I think.
Speaker 11 (34:36):
Yeah, you know he's he can run and he's got
good hands, a smart kid, so he'll keep growing as
we go. Who will be He's a competitive oo guy man.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, he's like a convertible sports car. You're not taking
the kids to school in it. You're not and groceries
in it. You're not going to home depot and bring
him back lumber in it. But he's a great club
to have in your bag. He's a unique, over the
top player, a little bit of a gadget guy. Nothing
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wrong at all with that guy. And at the end
of the first round it's a weird spot for general
managers where you know, he was hurt a lot in
college and he's small, but that's okay because they've got
now two tight ends they've got a number one in
Rashid Rice. I'll be honest with you. They wanted Kadarius
Tony to be this guy and he wasn't the pedal.
They wanted sky Moore to be this guy. So if
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you're if you're Xavier, you're worthy. The one place from
the league you'd want to go and be this guy
would be Kansas City. So it's gonna work. I'm not
doubting that it's gonna work. But even Andy Reid said it.
He's tiny. He is the convertible sports car. There's a
time and a place for it. It's great to have
in the garage, but you're not driving that thing in
January and February to Super Bowls when it's windy in
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nine degrees. You're doing it on physicality, protection, run games.
Isaiah Pacheco is a guy who you're going to depend
on in January, and Travis Kelcey. Those are the guys,
and Chris Jones up front and Steve Spagnola. But it's
okay to have gadget guys. Some coaches are really good
at using them. Some coaches aren't. But like Andy Reid's
the best in the league at it of taking a
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guy that's different like Deebo Samuel would not be nearly
as effective with a lot of other coaches. And you
think that's crazy, but literally, there's not a better coach
in the league for a big, physical receiver that can
double as a running back than Kyle Shanahan. That is
the perfect chess piece for Kyle Shanahan. If Deebo was
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on some of these defensive coaches, these uncreative guys, they
wouldn't know what to do with him. Kyle Shanahan the
ultimate chess piece. This kid is the ultimate convertible sports
car for the best play creator, play designer in our sport,
probably over the last fifty years, forty years, Andy Reid.
So I do think the one I picked Tennessee to
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upset Chicago, and I think Chicago's going to be fun,
and I think Caleb's going to be excellent. But it's like,
there is something I never forget. When Texas played USC
in the greatest Rose Bowl game maybe ever played the Natty,
and nobody liked Texas to win the game. And I
can remember somebody telling me the Texas players and the
coaches had sat in their hotel rooms in Los Angeles
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for like five days and watched the media slobber all
over Linert Bush, you know, Pete Carroll, the Trojan history,
and like the Texas guys were fuming by the time
they got on the field. They're like, it's like they're playing,
you know, some directional school. And Tennessee has been sitting
here for six months hearing how great Caleb Williams is.
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And I guarantee you that Titans locker room and that
Titans staff is gonna come out with their hair on fire.
And I just don't like rookie quarterbacks. In Week one.
I think bo nixl struggle and I like him. I
think Caleb could be turbulent. Here's Caleb admitting it could
be an up and down debut against the Titans.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
Bad thing is gonna happen every once in a while.
You're gonna throw a pick, you're gonna fumble, whether it's me,
whether it's a team, whether it's you know, we're gonna
jump off sides, We're gonna do a bunch of things.
So when those when those moments of adversity strike, it's
more about encouraging. It's more about understanding that we can
get out of the situation. And not not bringing more
negativity to the to the situation that that that that
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comes up. But there's gonna be a lot more time
throughout the games or practices where there's gonna be a
lot more good than bad. You just can't let the
bad outweigh the good.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, I mean, Mahomes had a terrible pick last night,
almost two. So it's Tom Brady's had pick. Sexism super Bowls.
There's an old saying, don't let one bad play become two,
don't let a loss become two. So but that the
criticisms of Caleb, I don't buy into the arrogant stuff.
I think he's confident. I don't think he's arrogant. I
don't buy that. But I may be wrong, but I
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think he's just really confident. I think the one criticism,
and I've heard this from my friends in the league,
is that they worry about the consistency of accuracy. He
can get erratic. Now, Mahomes had a little bit of
this when he came into the league out of Texas Tech.
The difference is he had Andy Reid. So you remember
the first two or three years when Mahomes came into
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this league, he'd get off the fairway and into the weeds. Mechanically,
he got really loose and then Andy in a couple
of weeks would bring him back. Now, Mahomes, now he's
past that. But these young, hyper athletic, hyper mobile quarterbacks,
there's a backyard feel to it and they have success
doing it. But over the course of time, Andy Reid
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would pull Mahomes back, get him in the fairway, don't
hit it as far, get it straight. And I don't
know if they have anybody in that Bears franchise to
do that with Caleb because he can be erratic. For
the record, Matt Stafford's got a little bit of this.
Matt can get a little erratic with his mechanics, he
can get a little sloppy, a little sidearm, and his
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best coordinator McVeigh get him back on the fairway. So
you know, Caleb three times last year completed fifty eight
percent of his throws or thereabouts like under that. So
it's like he can He'll have misses. He has them,
and sometimes you know, rookie first game, that guy is
gonna have like he's gonna be a walking red bull.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
He's gonna be going a.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Thousand miles an hour in Chicago, and you can you know,
number one pick rookie quarterbacks in Week one are four
fifteen to one. David Carr twenty two years ago is
the last number one pick rookie quarterback that won. It's
just it's a tough spot. So I think Tennessee's gonna
upset him, and I don't really see. I think j
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mack nailed it. There's two or three teams in this
league that are a mystery. There is no bigger mystery
than the Titans, new staff, new players, new offense. I
think they're gonna be feisty. I think Will Levis has
a ceiling, and I think eventually, over time you'll get
the book on Tennessee's offense pretty quick. Limited a quarterback,
but in week one, I mean Chicago's guessing. We'll have
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to go back and look at some Cincinnati film. You
got a kind of guess to see what you're getting
with them.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
A lot of three wide receiver sets.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Looks like DeAndre Hopkins could go this weekend for Tennessee,
which is a bit of a mild surprise. I think
they picked up Ridley, they got some they got some
weapons in the two queen Backs Tajy Spears and Tony Pollard.
Like all of a sudden, Tennessee could be spicy.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, Pollard played in the preseason a little bit good
luck two years ago. No, he said, he's not a
dominant one, but he can be a good off speed pitch.
He can bust one