September 17, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin gives the Falcons big time props for their comeback win over the Eagles and why they're silencing all their critics from the offseason
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No Ride. It is Tuesday, after a great Monday night
live in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for making us part of your day. Appreciate you
stopping by. Maybe I'll get my hair together by the
end of the show. What a wild Monday night. Okay,
So all game, you're like Philadelphia at home, I'm posting
w and all of a sudden you look up and
you're like, what just happened? You know what just happened?
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Jamac her cousin's happened?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hey did they fire Nick Sirianni at this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
What was he doing? Holy cat?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I want to start with it. It was exactly
April twenty fifth the Atlanta Falcons drafted Michael Pennix. Y'all
went crazy. They were universally lambasted because they'd already signed
free agent quarterback Kirk Cousins, so when they drafted Michael Pennix,
y'all freaked out. There was just one voice in America
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who defended Atlanta, a beloved sportscaster here in Los Angeles
me and last Night's why my quote at the time was,
let me get this straight. Having a four time Pro
Bowl quarterback and the best backup potentially in the league
is a bad place to be in all the Belichick
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sicaphants and the fan boys because he didn't get the
Atlanta job. Oh, they came porn in an avalanche criticism.
Do you watch Kirk Cousins in the second half last
night on the row off the surgery, thirteen to sixteen
hundred and sixty sixty yards, two touchdowns over one hundred
and forty nine passer rating. Michael Pennix ain't win in
that game. Kirk Cousins is Michael Pennix also hadn't taken
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a beating like Jayden Daniels bo Nicks. He'll be better
on the bench than on his back. He's not getting
his confidence shattered. I told you at the time, and
I'll say it again, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams. I mean,
these guys sound different after a two to three game
losing streak. They sound different. Pennix will be fine. This
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is very Mahomes, Alex Smith and Atlanta's good by the
way O line last night controlled the second half run game,
maybe the best running back room in the league. Tight
end wide receiver strong and Kirk Cousins further record in
the last I mean second half last night was insane.
But if you go look at Kirk Cousins between Minnesota
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and Atlanta his last ten starts, He's got a one
h two passer rating, completing almost seventy percent of his throws.
The dudes made four Pro Bowls. He's the best quarterback
in my opinion. I like Baker, but the best quarterback
in his division. Come on now, the move always made sense.
It is never bad in the NFL to have arguably
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the best quarterback in a division. He didn't sign a
Dak contract. He didn't sign a Mahomes or a he
didn't sign one of those contracts. If he starts this
year and a chunk of next year, you can move
off it and move if he wants to play. But
it's amazing. There's a reason Belichick's on TV and not
coaching because he ran out of quarterbacks. Atlanta's got two,
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So it's not the end of the world. Philadelphia lost.
This is a team that has a chance to win
their division. And for the record of c. J. Stroud
is an outlier. Mahomes sat for a year, Lamar sat
for ten games. Kirk Cousins in two years played four
games to start. You're seeing these older quarterbacks. You're seeing
people who are pushed to the side, they're doing fights.
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The young guys that are man overboard. You think Penix
wins that game, you want Pennix on his back. I
don't so. Atlanta's got an excellent offensive line at excellent
running backs, above average weapons. I like their coach, and
a veteran quarterback who controlled the game in the second
half on the road. Every fan base, I mean every
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single fan base. There's no patience in this league, right
and if if your moves don't pay off immediately, every
fan base in the NFL would take a top outside
of maybe Kansas City, would take a top ten quarterback,
top twelve quarterback in the league and the best backup,
and you're all freaking out Atlanta's good. Green base done
it three times. This is what Green Bay does. They
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draft a really good guy, let him sit and watch
football for a few years. I don't know. Farv Rogers,
Jordan Love. It's paid off three times, so.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I watched this game last night. Everybody's freaking out. I
picked Atlanta to win twelve games. I picked him to
arguably fight for number one seed. The first week was
a disadvantage because they're former coach was the Steelers offensive coordinatory,
knew all their personnel. That was a coaching disadvantage. But
last night my staff made fun of me. Yesterday I
came into the morning meeting, I'm like, I like Itlanta
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to win. I think Atlanta and they're all like, don't
say that on the air. Literally, don't say it on
the air. I think Atlanta can play. I think they have,
arguably after Detroit, the best offensive line in the league.
And everybody always craps on Kirk Cousins. You watched the
second half, he said, who watched that final draft? Bang
bang bang bang bang touchdown game over? Here's Kirk after.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You know, it's so important to find ways to win,
and that's how you put together a great season is
you know, when you have these games that could go
either way, you find a way to have it break
your way. And that's the way this league is. And
so when we can find those inches, it can really
change the tail of the season. So we're gonna have
more of those up ahead, and we're gonna have to
keep Bud, you know, as a whole team, finding ways
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to make the place to get it done.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, now let's talk Philadelphia, very popular team. I'm actually
concerned about the state of Pennsylvania. You do realize if
you look at all the polling, you're going to decide
the presidential election. We need adults in the room here,
not throwing a tantrum every time you lose a football game, Folks,
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Saquon catches the football, you're two to zero. You beat
a team if he catches the football in Green Bay
that could win their division and Atlanta could win THEIRS.
Kirkcuzes is good. It happens. It's football. Your division's a mess.
Giants Washington don't look very good. Dallas is typical Dallas
roller coaster. You'll be fine. Now, Nick Sirianni's not Andy Reid,
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who is there's one people even complain this weekend about
Kyle Shanahan, Sean mcvazo and two John harbaughzoh and two. Yeah,
you don't have Andy Reid, but AJ Brown, your number
one receiver, did not play. That is a thing. You
can defend Philadelphia much differently when Aj Brown's not on
the field for most of the game, you look like
the better team. You also have a very expensive offense,
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and because of that, there's some liabilities or weaknesses on
the back end. You know what you really are, and
you should take pride in this. You're really the opposite
of the Steelers. You're great at quarterback. You spend your
money on offense, but you're not Probably don't trust your
defense to win a Super Bowl. Would rather be the
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Steelers who spend all their money on defense and that
quarterback room is just not good enough. Two to zero start, Yeah,
check back in eight weeks. So it's I mean, Philadelphia
is gonna win their division, I would imagine. And then
ultimately at some point late in the season they're gonna
lose a game in January or maybe February. They just
can't make a stop. Okay, but that's because nobody is
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stopping Patrick Mahomes right. No, as Cincinnati a really good
team with a great pass rush, they couldn't stop enough
to win. So Jalen Hurts, let's look at the good news.
Jalen Hurts back to being dynamic. Jalen Hurts was something
A J. Brown's returning. Saquon Barkley. Say whatever you want
to say about Saquon Barkley, clearly a really good player
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who just dropped a ball. Your offensive lines top five
in the league. You're deciding our democracy. I need you
to take a deep breath. Everything is going to be okay.
Now we'll check back on November fifth on your decision,
but everything is going to be okay. Saquon catches it.
You're two to zero over two teams that could win
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a division. Here's the coach we wanted to they were
they were running a certain defense and they're junking it
up in the middle, so we're trying to go on
around the outside, and you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
With it being fourth and three to go for I thought,
you know, with them not having any timeouts, I wanted
to be down a touchdown and see if they could
drive the field, and they did.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Hats off to them. Yeah, it hats off to Atlanta.
You know it's funny about this is that there are
certain quarterbacks. Look who is doing well at quarterback in
this league. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr last night,
Kirk Cousins, Geno Smith, lot of reps. Older guys been
around the league in the first two weeks of the season.
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When you know no starters are playing in the preseason,
offensive lines are out of rhythm. Atlanta was a tough,
tough game last night. Okay, you know who is flourishing
veteran quarterbacks who have been around the block since no
starters are playing in the preseason. The Bakers and Sam
Darnold's they look pretty good. Geno's doing well, and Kirk
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Cousins last night with a good offensive line. That was
a tough game for Philadelphia Atlanta's. Don't pushover, but take
a deep breath. Nick Seriani has been to a Super Bowl.
He can't beat that. Terrible Not a lot of terrible
coaches end up there. He's not a top five coach.
They're not terrible. Listen, in Dallas, they don't like their coach.
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In New York, they got a good coach. They don't like.
They don't like Brian dabol like it's an epidemic. Take
a deep breath. You're gonna be fine, all right, j Mac.
That first of all, wildly entertaining football game.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Wildly entertaining opening ramp from you. Huh, Falcons, everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
They were like they should be zero to two this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We would be laughing at them for letting the Jagles
walk up and down the field.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is not a should be league. Oh, I know,
it is a what's the final score league? Pittsburgh's two
and o Ravens oh and two? It should be Pittsburgh's
oh and two, and the Ravens are two and oh
by a toe but and they led the Raiders late.
But it's not a should be league.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And Pittsburgh looks like it's headed too three and oh
if you've seen this justin Herbert update where he's definitely
not mobile and not looking good, and now Pittsburgh might
be three and oh and they have.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
One offensive touchdown?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What a league?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What a start to the season, h Banana?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Last night was it was hey, here, listen, Jalen Hurts
look good. Yeah, Jalen Hurts looked good. He's fine.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
He did with no AJ Brown.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
By the way, how many deep passes did they complete
passes over twenty yards last night?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
None offense without a J.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Brown. That's right, So they'll be good.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh. Just looking over the week three NFL schedule. Tasty
y tasty Nick right top of next hour, heard hierarchy
after two weeks. Ah, I have a team that's oh
and two in my top ten and a team that's
two and oh. That's not don't it's not standings. That's
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the other network. That's not standings. I don't do standings.
It's not like USA today. We get standings in the
red section. No, I'm telling you what I see. What
I see is interesting. In San Francisco, new story today,
Deebo Samuel out two weeks. So now Christian McCaffrey, the
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motor is out of the offense, and Deebo Samuel, who
is the great chess piece for the Niners, he's out
of the offense. So now brock Purty no excuses. Instead
of having the most stacked roster in the league is
like a George Kittle ankle sprain from just having a
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really good roster, no excuses. Sam Darnold didn't have its
number two receiver, is number one tight ended by the
end of the game, is number one receiver and lit
San Francisco's defense up. Joe Burrow still doesn't have Higgins.
He was really good against Kansas City. I mean, I'm
watching guys all over this league. So here's the question
with brock Purty. Is he a foundational piece because at
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the end of this year he's gonna want He's gonna
want money. He's been playing for free. He's gonna want money.
Not like he's making a ton of endorsements. And so
the next two three weeks now no McCaffrey, no Deebol
Brandon Ayuk relationship right now is building but has not
been good. He's not getting a ton of looks. And
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I'm looking around this league. Sam Darnold was missing all
sorts of stuff Sunday and out played rock Perty. He
didn't have his number one or number two receiver or
his number one tied end by the end of the game,
and look great. Now. The good news for the Niners
their schedule. They got layups coming up. Rams are all
beat up than New England, so there's layups. But I'm
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watching Jalen Hurts last night didn't have aj Brown. Jalen
Hurts was unbelievable. The Bills are top three in scoring
and they don't have Stefan Diggs. He's gone. So you
start looking around. You can really figure out are you
just going to be a guy that needs to be
carried or are you a guy that can carry? Because
no Debo and no Christian McCaffrey. Those are great players,
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and they're not only great players. One's the engine, the
other is the primary chess piece. But you still have Kittle,
Trent Williams. We think Jennings will play backup running back's
good Brandon Ayuk. But it's important now is he a
foundational piece or just a good poker player When he
has the right hand, when he has the good cards,
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he can win a hand. Which is he you know
where island like him? I thought he was solid Sunday,
but these next three or four games, when he may
not have Debo, he may not have McCaffrey. Watch closely,
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
News no, no, this is the herdline news love when
you needle rock perty he needle?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Is that what you call it? That's what you're doing.
I don't see him. He's got a stack deck.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
He should win, and then he doesn't have anybody you
gotta win, like, I mean, just feels unfair.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Just Josh Allen looks better than ever without Stefan Diggs.
Darnold was amazing Sunday last night, Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Faced the Cardinal's joke of a defense and then the Dolphins,
who don't have a defense at all. Like, let's calm down, Yes,
he has looked good. I'm on my fantasy team.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, let's just get it's sonny. Do you have brought
Kurty in your fantasy time?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I do.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
He's a backup.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm not even kidding. That is not a joke, which
is what he would be in Buffalo if he was
on the No.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Fantasy is all about stats, and Josh Allen's rushing for touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So what happens when you're uniquely gifted?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
All right, let's start with Justin Fields here. He's filling
in for the injured Russell Wilson. Listen, he's two and
oh doesn't have any turnovers. He's not really throwing the
football down the field, but who cares. Steelers are two
and oh. Russ is close to a return, but former
Steelers legend Big Ben Roethlisberger believes Fields has earned the
role of QB one.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
If Russ is healthy, I'm sticking with Justin. I like
what I've seen. I like that he's getting into it.
I like he's getting the feel of it. You know,
if you if you told me they're one in one
row and two and these are going on, I say, yeah,
we got to do something. But again, he's not turning
the ball over. They're two and oh. I think it's
got to stay with him, I really do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
He's probably right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, it's not like a hot taker.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That's probably what you did the hot hand. This has
become what we predicted and that eventually the defense is
good enough. If you don't turn it over, you can
win games in Pittsburgh. You're not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
In January February, Zach Wilson won a couple games with
the Jets defense last year.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, well, won't even The Jets won seven with the
worst quarterback play in the league. If you're playing defense,
you can win a bunch of games, and I'd do
anything late, but you can win them now.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
And in August I was hammering the Steelers, saying as
a five or six win team, and you were like, eh,
Tomlin can coax some magic.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think, I said, I thought that could get to eight.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Steelers fans are thumping their chests out now because they're
two to zero.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, well, in fairness, they had. If you watch Kirk
Cousins against the Steelers, like he didn't move. He told
Troy Agman last night, I'm not one hundred percent, but
in the pocket, I'm one hundred percent. I thought last night,
especially in the second half, he moved in the pocket.
I thought Kirk looked like Kirk Cousins. I thought early
in the game, first drive, he looked a little staff.
I thought week one he looked stiff. But I thought,
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you know what, By the way, when you have an injury,
I thought in the second half he was getting good
protection with the run game, I thought Kirk Cousins. I
couldn't tell the difference between old Kirk and new Kirk.
And by the way, I thought, Aaron Rodgers, you'll see
this over the course of time. As his O line
gets some reps together, Aaron will look a little more nimble.
But I thought Kirk first week with that TJ. Watt
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coming around the corner, Kirk looked old and off an injury.
I thought he was a little rusty early last night,
But I thought in the second half he looked like Kirk.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
By the way, were you surprised that the Eagles did
not blitz Kirk once on that two minute drill drive
down when he went down the.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Mills game the fango that's not his style.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, that's dumb. I'm sorry, that's sweeping.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, you don't Matlo one of the maybe the best
defensive mine in the league. Any big down, we're bringing
the house. We're coming after you. Whether it's Borough, super Bowl,
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, I know, but Kansas City's defense at personnel is
better than Philadelphia's. They've drafted very well. It's fair when
you can move off sneed at corner and you may
be just as good or better defensively. You've drafted and
developed well, but.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You've got a statue in the pocket. You got to
get him off his spot.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think that's strict him up. It was. It was embarrassing.
I mean it was here's the air thing about that
Kirk Cousins drive. I mean, if it looked like I'm
a homes drive Boom boom boom touchdown. I mean, it
was so rhythmic and simple. I'd rather not talk about
that anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
All right, let's move on to the Cowboys column. You
love the Cowboys, but listen, they got a big one
this week. After the blowout in Week two, gave up
forty four points of the Saints. Defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
tried to protect his player's performance, saying he didn't believe effort.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Was the issue.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
ID think he needs to do a better job.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
But Micah Parsons, you know, because he's got a podcast,
has chimed in with his own interpretation.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The effort was not there by all eleven. It doesn't
matter who plays well who didn't play well. The eff
for about all eleven wasn't there. The basic fundamentals of
the game of football was not there. And you know,
at the end of day, you have a standard of
who you are during training camp and throughout this process
to get you ready for the season. We didn't uphold
that standard. That wasn't the Dallas Cowboys that I saw
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or I knew that showed up last week. It was
not the same team this week. Was Was it the preparation?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I don't know, but I'm determined to get this thing right.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, words, words, words, Third time in like six games,
you've been blasted. Sorry, Well it's weird.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Cowboys could be one and two, Ravens could be zero
and three. The loser of this game is probably good.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Who's got that game?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Fox?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Fox has that game pretty sure. Yeah, in a weird way,
Baltimore losing has made that game even better. Oh, it's
a massive game. Oh, it's it is. Listen with Dallas,
it would with Baltimore. That feels like some desperation.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, oh and three is a death sentence in the
NA season done.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Especially in that division.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Cincinnati's good and Dallas falls to one and two, then
you start the who's coaching next season?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
McCarthy's going to be gone?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So we Fox has Baltimore Dallas. Yeah, that is a
that's that's a record game. That's America's game of the
league with Brady. So Brady's getting some game.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But is this job attractive after giving Dak Prescott all
that money, this cowboy's coaching.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Job, it's not as attractive. Well, first of all, just structurally,
if you were an elite coach, you know it'll pay okay.
But if you are an elite coach, Jerry Jones is
the de facto general manager. That makes it unattractive. It's
just not that attractive a job. I mean, here's what's great.
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The Hunt family is really the way to do it
is they're rich, but they live in Dallas and they
have a president, a GM, a coach, a quarterback, and
I happen to know a couple of people in that
organization and everybody is given responsibility and you take the
heat if you fail. But that's not the way it
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is in Dallas. Jerry wants the credit when they win,
and he don't want to take it when they lose
or overpay for somebody. So I don't think Dallas is
a great job. Jim Harbaugh is pretty smart. He could
have stayed at Michigan. He took the Charger job. He's like,
it's a really good draft. The weaknesses I can solve.
I've got an owner that's non meddling. In Los Angeles
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where you know he's lived in California, and I have
a star quarterback in two edge rushers, like if the
elite candidates are only applying for a handful of jobs,
like Chicago, if Matt eber Lutfluz gets run out, it's
the poorest owners. It's a defensive culture. I mean, Chicago's
a tough media, it's a lowed, tough media and fan base,
bad weather, so it's not a great offensive city. Generally,
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all of Green Bay would dispute that. So I mean,
when you ask me what are great jobs, Dallas is
structurally not a great job because Jerry is your general manager,
or at least pretending to be it.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
And the allocation of resources, like it's all gone to
Dack cdlamb and guess who's gonna get paid Michael.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Parsis and they should.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I don't know about the offensive line, and I don't
think you can contend with paying those three everything.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We are not a great team. Take out quarterback, You're
not a great team if losing one player can significantly
alter the outcome. I mean Minnesota was missing Justin Jefferson,
Jordan Addison and their number. I mean Justin Jefferson's a
great player. At the end of the game, it did
not affect them. San Francisco's one games, you know, right right?
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I mean the Rams now have had cluster injuries on
the O line, that's different. But if Dallas lost Ceedee Lamb,
that is not a very good offensive football team. They
are incredibly Cede Lamb reliant for anything over ten yards.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And they didn't have ferguson the tight end.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
He may come back.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He's probably their second biggest target. Cooks is third.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's the ninth best tight end in the league. As
your second target.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's not great there in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Final story, Colin, let's stick in the NFC East, or least,
I should say, the New York Giants. They fell to
zero and two, became just the second team in NFL
history to score three touchdowns, not allow any touchdowns and
still lose. New York also had to answer questions about
the kicker situation. Listen, Dabell really screwed this up. Graham
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Gonna came in injured and then on the opening kickoff
reaggravated a hamstring. Wasn't available. They couldn't kick extra points,
couldn't kick the game winning field goal with like four
minutes left, end up losing. Brian Dabeles answering questions about
his job, he responded, I've done this for a long time.
My focus is on our football team. They are big
underdogs in Cleveland this weekend. Deshaun Watson versus Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I did. My take is the general manager did not
impress me with HBO hard knocks Daniel Jones, I wouldn't
assigned to the contract. I think Dabell's good. Daboll's gonna
give then their job. Day Ball's fine, and Andy Reid
got fired in this league, Belichick just got fired. Pete
Carroll got fired. You know a lot of good coaches
have left.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Do you usink dabel will stay after the season or
he'll get fired and get another job.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know. But if he got fired to give
them their job, I hired day Ball tomorrow. He can
be a little hot headed. I'd sit down. Tom Komplin
used to have that issue. Marrow family is like, hey,
chill out, you look like a plumb on the sideline.
You're bright purple. I think Brian Dables got to, you know,
chill out a little bit. But in terms of HBO
Max Show Hard Knocks. I thought the general manager looked
a little lost and not decisive. I don't think the
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quarterback's the guy. Although I didn't think he was terrible.
Sunday I thought he was fine. I thought Daniel played
up to Daniel's ceiling. On Sunday. I thought he was fine.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Who I mean?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I think twenty eight pass attempts and eighteen of them
were attempted at the league neighbors.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The rookie well, what she left the Dallas well, I mean,
as they're thrown to the right guy. Yeah, at least
you know. I think Dable's the strength of the franchise.
I think Dabell and the defensive front and the left
tackle or the strength of the franchise neighbors I think
will be very, very good. But he's just a He's
just one play.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'll give you a team for Dable if they go
four and twelve, Okay, please do that. If this Jacksonville
stuff continues to matter, and if I'm Dabel, I am
running to that Jacksonville job. Trevor Lawrence, I know he
hasn't been great, doesn't have the wins, the.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Tools were they and they've already paid him, so he
gonna at three year. By the way, his contract is
less punitive the second, the third, the fourth to fifth
year of the contract. So that's and they got some
nice pieces offensively. Now their structure in the front office
and stuff isn't perfect, but that's a good second. I
would hire stave All in a second. If if Doug
Peterson got whacked.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I don't know if Belichick would take that. I
don't know if he picks.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't want to lead Jacksonville Belichick. Solving a quarterback
is not on my radar. Belichick's got to go to
And here's the thing now, that Buffalo looks like they're really,
really good, because that was one of the ones I
looked at and I thought, oh, Belichick with Josh Allen,
you're not getting that gig. Buffalo's too good. They're not
going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's early to crown Buffalo, just a little early early.
How the Jets do Thursday, because I think they're gonna
stay on the heels of the Buffalo bills if they
beat the Patriots big.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
If Jmack with the news, well that's the news.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
The herd Line News and Jordan of the Saints is
joining us. They're on fire, Nick right next hour the
herd hierarchy. So I saw headline this morning. Caleb Williams
is finding out what Justin Fields already knows. Oh god,
here's a little problem again. People say that it's too early.
(26:12):
No it's not. It's not too early to look at
the Rams and go, yeah, they play the Niners next,
they're in trouble. It's not too early to say Kansas
City looks like a better version of last year. I
don't buy that at all. There are red flags all
around this league. Baltimore's offensive line is a red flag.
The red flag. Don't tell me it's too early. It's
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too early to crown Pittsburgh that hasn't thrown a touchdown, pass,
crown them. It's not too early to go. Sam Donald
looks pretty good with this coach and this team. Not
too early to say that. So Minnesota, Detroit, and Green
Bay in Chicago's division have all had moments this year
where you've gone, yeah, they're good. Minnesota just wax San Francisco.
Green Bay won with a backup quarterback, very impressive, and
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I mean the Lions overtime went over the Rams. They
just leaned on them with that run game. Two games,
the Chicago Bears haven't had a single impressive series. I mean,
their best drive. Their only touchdown drives started at midfield
off a lousy Houston Texans punt and included a pass
interference call. They've had only one offensive drive over fifty yards.
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Their longest play is twenty seven yard, the worst in
the league including Carolina. So this looks like a fourth
place team in a division with a lot of competent quarterbacks.
We knew Detroit and green Bay's offense would be good.
Oh crap, Minnesota's looks really good. So you gotta win
shootouts in this division because green Bay's young and getting better,
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Detroit will get their act together, and Minnesota that coach,
that quarterback, those weapons, that left tackle, they're good. The
biggest concern for Chicago is that every single red flag
that we were concerned about, every single one, has already
surfaced through two weeks. O line issues, coaching competency, accuracy issues,
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Keenan Allen struggling to stay healthy like he did with
the Chargers, Caleb not playing great or always in structure.
So all the red flags have surfaced and I said
the two things that I believe going into the season.
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I said, do the Bears have this structure to take
this wildly improvisational quarterback. I mean, he's he's there's a
little you know, he's an improv quarterback. It's a lot
of off script to stuff. And then that's that was
Mahomes early. Now Mahomes now is much more structured. But
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Mahomes years, you know, first year starting, second year starting,
there are a lot more improvisational stuff. The Chiefs had
the structure. Shane Steiken gave Jalen Hurts the structure, harbor
less quarterback reliant, giving Justin Herbert the right structure. I
don't know if the Bears have it. And I said
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before the season, I think they are a seven or
eight win team. Are you gonna be satisfied with that?
It's allowed media and allowed fan base. So Caleb Williams
needs to be coached hard, and I don't know if
Chicago can do it. And I don't know. I mean,
I'll just throw this out there. You look at their schedule.
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If they lose three of the next four games, you
will hear Lincoln Riley rumors. I promise you now, I
don't think Lincoln Riley wants it. He's got a great
staff at USC. They're gonna beat Michigan, they're gonna be
three and zero, they're gonna be a top five, six
to seven team. You're not gonna take that job. That's
not a good fit for Lincoln Riley. But this is
a quarterback that lives on improvisation. Brett Farv did a
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lot of it. I'm okay with it. Lamar Jackson does
a lot of it. Mahomes early did a lot of it.
Kyler Murray this weekend did a lot of it. I'm
for it. But those kind of quarterbacks need strong coaching
to get structure, and I'm not sure it's in the building.
I am not sure it's in the building. Matt Hasselbeck yesterday.
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You know this guy's played the position for eighteen years professionally.
On Caleb's early struggles.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
If you're counting on a rookie quarterback to play well
this whole year, like if you think this is your year,
it's not your year. I saw a guy throwing the
ball late. It's very easy to blame offensive line or
to blame scheme. But if I had to put money somewhere,
and I have a rookie quarterback. I'm guessing that the
rookie quarterback didn't get his protection or his eyes where
they needed to be when people blitz. And I think
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that's definitely something you saw yesterday was rookie quarterback or
gonna blitch you and see if you're ready to go
on the pass protection stuff. And clearly right now it's
still it looks like someone learning on the fly.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, there's no question. Again, I'm okay with learning on
the fly, but when you are an improvisational I don't care.
If it's an improvisational actor quarterback. You need a strong
director and I just don't know Chicago's got it in
the building. And for the record, this is what we
asked before the season. We're not following this story. We've
been leading with this story. This was our question. I
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did multiple rants archived. Are you gonna be okay? If
they win just seven games, you'll think you have a
better quarterback. But Minnesota is way better than anybody in
the league. Thought they're like the Saints. They didn't beat
San Francisco, they housed them. Green Bay just beat a
pretty good team with a backup quarterback. Who looked terrible
you know last year in Tennessee joined the Packers late
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and they won. You know, they're going to be good
when Jordan Love gets back. And then Detroit they got
too many good players not to win a bunch of games.
So this division we thought was good. The fact that Minnesota,
who many people earmarked as a fourth place team, looks
spectacular offensively. Now that may not last. But even if
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this little streak doesn't last, Minnesota is more than capable.
I mean they were doing it this week, missing all
sorts of receivers and tight ends. So it's again seeing
a red flag. You know, Week one, Cincinnati, t Higgins
not there, Jamar Chase kind of there, a little bit
of a red flag. We got to get. We got
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to get t Higgins in here. We got to get
Burton ramped up. Jamar Chase needs an intense week of practice.
That a little bit of a red flag. That's solvable.
Stuff those that's a red flag. I mean, Chicago's like
nine of them. It's like one of those watch towers
during like a hurricane. It's all red flags up and down.
It like it's it's a problem. I don't I don't
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I don't even know what I can take out of it.
When you have the look, when you have the twenty
seven yard plays, your biggest play, even Carolinas. I haven't
watched every second of Carolina, but apparently that's the worst
in the league, meaning Carolina's got a twenty eight yard
play somewhere that ain't good.
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
All you Bonnicks Bronco haters, be very very careful, so
I saw this today overreaction Tuesday. NFL offenses through two weeks,
fewest touchdown passes since two thousand and six, fewest passing
yards since ninety six fus pass attempts to the first
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two weeks since nineteen ninety one, lowest red zone touchdown
percentage since two thousand and six. Everybody's freaking out. So
you know, I I think this is explainable. There's a
lot of different things all converging. But you have fewer
padded practices in the NFL and fewer starters playing in
the preseason. And what's happening is more than anything that
hurts offensive lines and rhythm. Offense is about rhythm and timing.
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Defense is about alignment and pursuit. So that's your explanation.
You got offensive lines. That's why Atlanta's O line looks
great because they return all of them, or or you know,
a Saint O line or a Philadelphia O line looked
good last night. You're returning most of your players, right,
so that helps. So offense has always been about rhythm
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and timing. I mean Tom Brady and his prime would
take his receivers on vacation. He didn't take his guards
on vacation or his corners on vacation. He took his receivers.
So and also, scoring down doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong.
The up and underdogs had a great weekend. That's great.
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Every league wants some parody. So I mean, last night
was great television. Did you watch last night and think
the league's in a bad spot. I thought it was
absolutely sensational TV with two very good quarterbacks spinning it,
two very strong run games, two very good offensive lines.
Here's my wacky take that starting this weekend, in the
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following weeks three, four, five, six, you're going to see
offenses a offensive lines. Young quarterbacks will improve, offensive lines
will get better, rhythm. Defenses tend to have more injuries
than offense, and they'll start getting banged up, and everybody
will be fine offensively except the Carolina Panthers. They'll stink.
(36:49):
Everybody else will get better, all right. So zero to
two is generally not good. Since the he went to
seventeen games, twenty one teams have started oh to two,
only two have made the playoffs. So the list of
teams this year that are ower and to include one
of those teams that went on and to and made
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the playoffs the Bengals. And I will tell you right now,
I think the Bengals have a legitimate shot to face
Kansas City in the AFC championship. Here's what we know
about the Cincinnati Bengals. They never get good until pumpkins
spice lattes are available, so they're about a week from
turning it on. Once the leaves turn orange, they get good.
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Joe Burrow's been owing to multiple times, fifth time in
six years, they're owing two. They're fine, okay, on once
Joe Burrow's got the you know, the new hair thing,
once the once the roots go dark again, they're gonna
be just fine. I'm in on Cincinnati. Why coach, do
you see what Jake Browning did last year? A backup
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quarterback was Zach Taylor? Stop telling me Zach Taylor can't coach.
He's more than capable, not Andy Reid more than capable quarterback,
a pass rush, a weapons right now, a B. But
T Higgins comes around, they're back to being a B
plus a minus. They're gonna be fine. So I'm not
worried at all. Even against Kansas City in the fourth quarter,
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they had double the yards of Kansas City on the
road Arrowhead against an excellent top three defense in the league.
They're going to be fine. There are teams that are
ower and too, like the Ravens have o line issues,
The Rams have major injury issues. Those teams are in trouble,
The Giants a lot of things. You know, there are
teams that are ower and to Carolina is just bad.
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But Cincinnati is a pass interference call from being one
to one, and they went toe to toe and down
the stretch. Looked every bit as good as Kansas City.
And I think Kansas City is a better version than
last year's Super Bowl team. So think of teams in
terms of components. Think of teams in terms of component.
Do you have an a quarterback check, a pass rush check,
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eventually a weapons check. Coach capable? I say this, you
get to a super Bowl. It's not all Burrow, okay.
Zach Taylor's he's from the Sean McVay tree, like Kevin O'Connell.
There's two groups of coaches in this league that almost
all their assistants work. Sean mcvay's and Kyle Shanahan's. Their
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assistant unlike Belichick, is stunk. That's why I hired all
of them back. Like McVeigh and Shanahan's, guy's work. Zach
Taylor's really smart here. He talks about their own two start.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
You don't anticipate the start. That's not what we anticipate.
But at the same time, I think there's a lot
of things that will continue to build off of and
we're gonna be in the right direction. Everyone's got to
be on top of all the details. And we can't
get these guys an chine. We got to find a
way to make every play we can and get this
first win. But you know, so there's still a lot
of football off to play offident our guys, we're gonna
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respond the right way this week.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yep. Go look at their schedule. Go look at their schedule.
They're gonna win six of their next seven games. They're
beating Washington, Carolina, host Baltimore Giants, Cleveland, Philadelphia Raiders. Look
at that schedule. I mean, we knew Kansas City was
gonna be tough. Carolina is worse than we thought. Washington's
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worse than I thought. Giants are the Giants Raiders have
been adorable, but that's not gonna last. They're fine. It's Tuesday.
It's week two. Tuesday heard hierarchy. It's wacky.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's wacky.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Indeed, yes, doesn't mean it's inaccurate, just like less offense
doesn't mean bad football,
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Appreciate you
stopping by. Maybe I'll get my hair together by the
end of the show. What a wild Monday night. Okay,
So all game, you're like Philadelphia at home, I'm posting
w and all of a sudden you look up and
you're like, what just happened? You know what just happened?
(00:55):
Jamac her cousin's happened?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hey did they fire Nick Sirianni at this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Oh my god?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
What was he doing? Holy cat?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I want to start with it. It was exactly
April twenty fifth the Atlanta Falcons drafted Michael Pennix. Y'all
went crazy. They were universally lambasted because they'd already signed
free agent quarterback Kirk Cousins, so when they drafted Michael Pennix,
y'all freaked out. There was just one voice in America
(01:28):
who defended Atlanta, a beloved sportscaster here in Los Angeles
me and last Night's why my quote at the time was,
let me get this straight. Having a four time Pro
Bowl quarterback and the best backup potentially in the league
is a bad place to be in all the Belichick
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sicaphants and the fan boys because he didn't get the
Atlanta job. Oh, they came porn in an avalanche criticism.
Do you watch Kirk Cousins in the second half last
night on the row off the surgery, thirteen to sixteen
hundred and sixty sixty yards, two touchdowns over one hundred
and forty nine passer rating. Michael Pennix ain't win in
that game. Kirk Cousins is Michael Pennix also hadn't taken
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a beating like Jayden Daniels bo Nicks. He'll be better
on the bench than on his back. He's not getting
his confidence shattered. I told you at the time, and
I'll say it again, Bryce Young, Caleb Williams. I mean,
these guys sound different after a two to three game
losing streak. They sound different. Pennix will be fine. This
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is very Mahomes, Alex Smith and Atlanta's good by the
way O line last night controlled the second half run game,
maybe the best running back room in the league. Tight
end wide receiver strong and Kirk Cousins further record in
the last I mean second half last night was insane.
But if you go look at Kirk Cousins between Minnesota
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and Atlanta his last ten starts, He's got a one
h two passer rating, completing almost seventy percent of his throws.
The dudes made four Pro Bowls. He's the best quarterback
in my opinion. I like Baker, but the best quarterback
in his division. Come on now, the move always made sense.
It is never bad in the NFL to have arguably
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the best quarterback in a division. He didn't sign a
Dak contract. He didn't sign a Mahomes or a he
didn't sign one of those contracts. If he starts this
year and a chunk of next year, you can move
off it and move if he wants to play. But
it's amazing. There's a reason Belichick's on TV and not
coaching because he ran out of quarterbacks. Atlanta's got two,
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So it's not the end of the world. Philadelphia lost.
This is a team that has a chance to win
their division. And for the record of c. J. Stroud
is an outlier. Mahomes sat for a year, Lamar sat
for ten games. Kirk Cousins in two years played four
games to start. You're seeing these older quarterbacks. You're seeing
people who are pushed to the side, they're doing fights.
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The young guys that are man overboard. You think Penix
wins that game, you want Pennix on his back. I
don't so. Atlanta's got an excellent offensive line at excellent
running backs, above average weapons. I like their coach, and
a veteran quarterback who controlled the game in the second
half on the road. Every fan base, I mean every
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single fan base. There's no patience in this league, right
and if if your moves don't pay off immediately, every
fan base in the NFL would take a top outside
of maybe Kansas City, would take a top ten quarterback,
top twelve quarterback in the league and the best backup,
and you're all freaking out Atlanta's good. Green base done
it three times. This is what Green Bay does. They
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draft a really good guy, let him sit and watch
football for a few years. I don't know. Farv Rogers,
Jordan Love. It's paid off three times, so.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I watched this game last night. Everybody's freaking out. I
picked Atlanta to win twelve games. I picked him to
arguably fight for number one seed. The first week was
a disadvantage because they're former coach was the Steelers offensive coordinatory,
knew all their personnel. That was a coaching disadvantage. But
last night my staff made fun of me. Yesterday I
came into the morning meeting, I'm like, I like Itlanta
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to win. I think Atlanta and they're all like, don't
say that on the air. Literally, don't say it on
the air. I think Atlanta can play. I think they have,
arguably after Detroit, the best offensive line in the league.
And everybody always craps on Kirk Cousins. You watched the
second half, he said, who watched that final draft? Bang
bang bang bang bang touchdown game over? Here's Kirk after.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
You know, it's so important to find ways to win,
and that's how you put together a great season is
you know, when you have these games that could go
either way, you find a way to have it break
your way. And that's the way this league is. And
so when we can find those inches, it can really
change the tail of the season. So we're gonna have
more of those up ahead, and we're gonna have to
keep Bud, you know, as a whole team, finding ways
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to make the place to get it done.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay, now let's talk Philadelphia, very popular team. I'm actually
concerned about the state of Pennsylvania. You do realize if
you look at all the polling, you're going to decide
the presidential election. We need adults in the room here,
not throwing a tantrum every time you lose a football game, Folks,
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Saquon catches the football, you're two to zero. You beat
a team if he catches the football in Green Bay
that could win their division and Atlanta could win THEIRS.
Kirkcuzes is good. It happens. It's football. Your division's a mess.
Giants Washington don't look very good. Dallas is typical Dallas
roller coaster. You'll be fine. Now, Nick Sirianni's not Andy Reid,
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who is there's one people even complain this weekend about
Kyle Shanahan, Sean mcvazo and two John harbaughzoh and two. Yeah,
you don't have Andy Reid, but AJ Brown, your number
one receiver, did not play. That is a thing. You
can defend Philadelphia much differently when Aj Brown's not on
the field for most of the game, you look like
the better team. You also have a very expensive offense,
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and because of that, there's some liabilities or weaknesses on
the back end. You know what you really are, and
you should take pride in this. You're really the opposite
of the Steelers. You're great at quarterback. You spend your
money on offense, but you're not Probably don't trust your
defense to win a Super Bowl. Would rather be the
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Steelers who spend all their money on defense and that
quarterback room is just not good enough. Two to zero start, Yeah,
check back in eight weeks. So it's I mean, Philadelphia
is gonna win their division, I would imagine. And then
ultimately at some point late in the season they're gonna
lose a game in January or maybe February. They just
can't make a stop. Okay, but that's because nobody is
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stopping Patrick Mahomes right. No, as Cincinnati a really good
team with a great pass rush, they couldn't stop enough
to win. So Jalen Hurts, let's look at the good news.
Jalen Hurts back to being dynamic. Jalen Hurts was something
A J. Brown's returning. Saquon Barkley. Say whatever you want
to say about Saquon Barkley, clearly a really good player
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who just dropped a ball. Your offensive lines top five
in the league. You're deciding our democracy. I need you
to take a deep breath. Everything is going to be okay.
Now we'll check back on November fifth on your decision,
but everything is going to be okay. Saquon catches it.
You're two to zero over two teams that could win
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a division. Here's the coach we wanted to they were
they were running a certain defense and they're junking it
up in the middle, so we're trying to go on
around the outside, and you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
With it being fourth and three to go for I thought,
you know, with them not having any timeouts, I wanted
to be down a touchdown and see if they could
drive the field, and they did.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Hats off to them. Yeah, it hats off to Atlanta.
You know it's funny about this is that there are
certain quarterbacks. Look who is doing well at quarterback in
this league. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr last night,
Kirk Cousins, Geno Smith, lot of reps. Older guys been
around the league in the first two weeks of the season.
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When you know no starters are playing in the preseason,
offensive lines are out of rhythm. Atlanta was a tough,
tough game last night. Okay, you know who is flourishing
veteran quarterbacks who have been around the block since no
starters are playing in the preseason. The Bakers and Sam
Darnold's they look pretty good. Geno's doing well, and Kirk
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Cousins last night with a good offensive line. That was
a tough game for Philadelphia Atlanta's. Don't pushover, but take
a deep breath. Nick Seriani has been to a Super Bowl.
He can't beat that. Terrible Not a lot of terrible
coaches end up there. He's not a top five coach.
They're not terrible. Listen, in Dallas, they don't like their coach.
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In New York, they got a good coach. They don't like.
They don't like Brian dabol like it's an epidemic. Take
a deep breath. You're gonna be fine, all right, j Mac.
That first of all, wildly entertaining football game.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Wildly entertaining opening ramp from you. Huh, Falcons, everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
They were like they should be zero to two this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
We would be laughing at them for letting the Jagles
walk up and down the field.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
This is not a should be league. Oh, I know,
it is a what's the final score league? Pittsburgh's two
and o Ravens oh and two? It should be Pittsburgh's
oh and two, and the Ravens are two and oh
by a toe but and they led the Raiders late.
But it's not a should be league.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
And Pittsburgh looks like it's headed too three and oh
if you've seen this justin Herbert update where he's definitely
not mobile and not looking good, and now Pittsburgh might
be three and oh and they have.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
One offensive touchdown?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What a league?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What a start to the season, h Banana?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Last night was it was hey, here, listen, Jalen Hurts
look good. Yeah, Jalen Hurts looked good. He's fine.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
He did with no AJ Brown.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
By the way, how many deep passes did they complete
passes over twenty yards last night?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
None offense without a J.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Brown. That's right, So they'll be good.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
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Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh. Just looking over the week three NFL schedule. Tasty
y tasty Nick right top of next hour, heard hierarchy
after two weeks. Ah, I have a team that's oh
and two in my top ten and a team that's
two and oh. That's not don't it's not standings. That's
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the other network. That's not standings. I don't do standings.
It's not like USA today. We get standings in the
red section. No, I'm telling you what I see. What
I see is interesting. In San Francisco, new story today,
Deebo Samuel out two weeks. So now Christian McCaffrey, the
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motor is out of the offense, and Deebo Samuel, who
is the great chess piece for the Niners, he's out
of the offense. So now brock Purty no excuses. Instead
of having the most stacked roster in the league is
like a George Kittle ankle sprain from just having a
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really good roster, no excuses. Sam Darnold didn't have its
number two receiver, is number one tight ended by the
end of the game, is number one receiver and lit
San Francisco's defense up. Joe Burrow still doesn't have Higgins.
He was really good against Kansas City. I mean, I'm
watching guys all over this league. So here's the question
with brock Purty. Is he a foundational piece because at
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the end of this year he's gonna want He's gonna
want money. He's been playing for free. He's gonna want money.
Not like he's making a ton of endorsements. And so
the next two three weeks now no McCaffrey, no Deebol
Brandon Ayuk relationship right now is building but has not
been good. He's not getting a ton of looks. And
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I'm looking around this league. Sam Darnold was missing all
sorts of stuff Sunday and out played rock Perty. He
didn't have his number one or number two receiver or
his number one tied end by the end of the game,
and look great. Now. The good news for the Niners
their schedule. They got layups coming up. Rams are all
beat up than New England, so there's layups. But I'm
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watching Jalen Hurts last night didn't have aj Brown. Jalen
Hurts was unbelievable. The Bills are top three in scoring
and they don't have Stefan Diggs. He's gone. So you
start looking around. You can really figure out are you
just going to be a guy that needs to be
carried or are you a guy that can carry? Because
no Debo and no Christian McCaffrey. Those are great players,
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and they're not only great players. One's the engine, the
other is the primary chess piece. But you still have Kittle,
Trent Williams. We think Jennings will play backup running back's
good Brandon Ayuk. But it's important now is he a
foundational piece or just a good poker player When he
has the right hand, when he has the good cards,
(14:10):
he can win a hand. Which is he you know
where island like him? I thought he was solid Sunday,
but these next three or four games, when he may
not have Debo, he may not have McCaffrey. Watch closely,
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
News no, no, this is the herdline news love when
you needle rock perty he needle?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Is that what you call it? That's what you're doing.
I don't see him. He's got a stack deck.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
He should win, and then he doesn't have anybody you
gotta win, like, I mean, just feels unfair.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Just Josh Allen looks better than ever without Stefan Diggs.
Darnold was amazing Sunday last night, Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Faced the Cardinal's joke of a defense and then the Dolphins,
who don't have a defense at all. Like, let's calm down, Yes,
he has looked good. I'm on my fantasy team.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Okay, let's just get it's sonny. Do you have brought
Kurty in your fantasy time?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I do.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
He's a backup.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I'm not even kidding. That is not a joke, which
is what he would be in Buffalo if he was
on the No.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Fantasy is all about stats, and Josh Allen's rushing for touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So what happens when you're uniquely gifted?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
All right, let's start with Justin Fields here. He's filling
in for the injured Russell Wilson. Listen, he's two and
oh doesn't have any turnovers. He's not really throwing the
football down the field, but who cares. Steelers are two
and oh. Russ is close to a return, but former
Steelers legend Big Ben Roethlisberger believes Fields has earned the
role of QB one.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
If Russ is healthy, I'm sticking with Justin. I like
what I've seen. I like that he's getting into it.
I like he's getting the feel of it. You know,
if you if you told me they're one in one
row and two and these are going on, I say, yeah,
we got to do something. But again, he's not turning
the ball over. They're two and oh. I think it's
got to stay with him, I really do.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
He's probably right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, it's not like a hot taker.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That's probably what you did the hot hand. This has
become what we predicted and that eventually the defense is
good enough. If you don't turn it over, you can
win games in Pittsburgh. You're not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
In January February, Zach Wilson won a couple games with
the Jets defense last year.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, well, won't even The Jets won seven with the
worst quarterback play in the league. If you're playing defense,
you can win a bunch of games, and I'd do
anything late, but you can win them now.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
And in August I was hammering the Steelers, saying as
a five or six win team, and you were like, eh,
Tomlin can coax some magic.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think, I said, I thought that could get to eight.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Steelers fans are thumping their chests out now because they're
two to zero.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, well, in fairness, they had. If you watch Kirk
Cousins against the Steelers, like he didn't move. He told
Troy Agman last night, I'm not one hundred percent, but
in the pocket, I'm one hundred percent. I thought last night,
especially in the second half, he moved in the pocket.
I thought Kirk looked like Kirk Cousins. I thought early
in the game, first drive, he looked a little staff.
I thought week one he looked stiff. But I thought,
(16:55):
you know what, By the way, when you have an injury,
I thought in the second half he was getting good
protection with the run game, I thought Kirk Cousins. I
couldn't tell the difference between old Kirk and new Kirk.
And by the way, I thought, Aaron Rodgers, you'll see
this over the course of time. As his O line
gets some reps together, Aaron will look a little more nimble.
But I thought Kirk first week with that TJ. Watt
(17:16):
coming around the corner, Kirk looked old and off an injury.
I thought he was a little rusty early last night,
But I thought in the second half he looked like Kirk.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
By the way, were you surprised that the Eagles did
not blitz Kirk once on that two minute drill drive
down when he went down the.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Mills game the fango that's not his style.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, that's dumb. I'm sorry, that's sweeping.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Well, you don't Matlo one of the maybe the best
defensive mine in the league. Any big down, we're bringing
the house. We're coming after you. Whether it's Borough, super Bowl,
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah, I know, but Kansas City's defense at personnel is
better than Philadelphia's. They've drafted very well. It's fair when
you can move off sneed at corner and you may
be just as good or better defensively. You've drafted and
developed well, but.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You've got a statue in the pocket. You got to
get him off his spot.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I think that's strict him up. It was. It was embarrassing.
I mean it was here's the air thing about that
Kirk Cousins drive. I mean, if it looked like I'm
a homes drive Boom boom boom touchdown. I mean, it
was so rhythmic and simple. I'd rather not talk about
that anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
All right, let's move on to the Cowboys column. You
love the Cowboys, but listen, they got a big one
this week. After the blowout in Week two, gave up
forty four points of the Saints. Defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer
tried to protect his player's performance, saying he didn't believe effort.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Was the issue.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
ID think he needs to do a better job.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
But Micah Parsons, you know, because he's got a podcast,
has chimed in with his own interpretation.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The effort was not there by all eleven. It doesn't
matter who plays well who didn't play well. The eff
for about all eleven wasn't there. The basic fundamentals of
the game of football was not there. And you know,
at the end of day, you have a standard of
who you are during training camp and throughout this process
to get you ready for the season. We didn't uphold
that standard. That wasn't the Dallas Cowboys that I saw
(19:00):
or I knew that showed up last week. It was
not the same team this week. Was Was it the preparation?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I don't know, but I'm determined to get this thing right.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, words, words, words, Third time in like six games,
you've been blasted. Sorry, Well it's weird.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Cowboys could be one and two, Ravens could be zero
and three. The loser of this game is probably good.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Who's got that game?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Fox?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Fox has that game pretty sure. Yeah, in a weird way,
Baltimore losing has made that game even better. Oh, it's
a massive game. Oh, it's it is. Listen with Dallas,
it would with Baltimore. That feels like some desperation.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Well, oh and three is a death sentence in the
NA season done.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Especially in that division.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Cincinnati's good and Dallas falls to one and two, then
you start the who's coaching next season?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
McCarthy's going to be gone?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So we Fox has Baltimore Dallas. Yeah, that is a
that's that's a record game. That's America's game of the
league with Brady. So Brady's getting some game.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I mean, I'm getting ahead of myself.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
But is this job attractive after giving Dak Prescott all
that money, this cowboy's coaching.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Job, it's not as attractive. Well, first of all, just structurally,
if you were an elite coach, you know it'll pay okay.
But if you are an elite coach, Jerry Jones is
the de facto general manager. That makes it unattractive. It's
just not that attractive a job. I mean, here's what's great.
(20:24):
The Hunt family is really the way to do it
is they're rich, but they live in Dallas and they
have a president, a GM, a coach, a quarterback, and
I happen to know a couple of people in that
organization and everybody is given responsibility and you take the
heat if you fail. But that's not the way it
(20:46):
is in Dallas. Jerry wants the credit when they win,
and he don't want to take it when they lose
or overpay for somebody. So I don't think Dallas is
a great job. Jim Harbaugh is pretty smart. He could
have stayed at Michigan. He took the Charger job. He's like,
it's a really good draft. The weaknesses I can solve.
I've got an owner that's non meddling. In Los Angeles
(21:07):
where you know he's lived in California, and I have
a star quarterback in two edge rushers, like if the
elite candidates are only applying for a handful of jobs,
like Chicago, if Matt eber Lutfluz gets run out, it's
the poorest owners. It's a defensive culture. I mean, Chicago's
a tough media, it's a lowed, tough media and fan base,
bad weather, so it's not a great offensive city. Generally,
(21:29):
all of Green Bay would dispute that. So I mean,
when you ask me what are great jobs, Dallas is
structurally not a great job because Jerry is your general manager,
or at least pretending to be it.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
And the allocation of resources, like it's all gone to
Dack cdlamb and guess who's gonna get paid Michael.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Parsis and they should.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I don't know about the offensive line, and I don't
think you can contend with paying those three everything.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
We are not a great team. Take out quarterback, You're
not a great team if losing one player can significantly
alter the outcome. I mean Minnesota was missing Justin Jefferson,
Jordan Addison and their number. I mean Justin Jefferson's a
great player. At the end of the game, it did
not affect them. San Francisco's one games, you know, right right?
(22:18):
I mean the Rams now have had cluster injuries on
the O line, that's different. But if Dallas lost Ceedee Lamb,
that is not a very good offensive football team. They
are incredibly Cede Lamb reliant for anything over ten yards.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And they didn't have ferguson the tight end.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
He may come back.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
He's probably their second biggest target. Cooks is third.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
It's the ninth best tight end in the league. As
your second target.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It's not great there in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Final story, Colin, let's stick in the NFC East, or least,
I should say, the New York Giants. They fell to
zero and two, became just the second team in NFL
history to score three touchdowns, not allow any touchdowns and
still lose. New York also had to answer questions about
the kicker situation. Listen, Dabell really screwed this up. Graham
(23:05):
Gonna came in injured and then on the opening kickoff
reaggravated a hamstring. Wasn't available. They couldn't kick extra points,
couldn't kick the game winning field goal with like four
minutes left, end up losing. Brian Dabeles answering questions about
his job, he responded, I've done this for a long time.
My focus is on our football team. They are big
underdogs in Cleveland this weekend. Deshaun Watson versus Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I did. My take is the general manager did not
impress me with HBO hard knocks Daniel Jones, I wouldn't
assigned to the contract. I think Dabell's good. Daboll's gonna
give then their job. Day Ball's fine, and Andy Reid
got fired in this league, Belichick just got fired. Pete
Carroll got fired. You know a lot of good coaches
have left.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Do you usink dabel will stay after the season or
he'll get fired and get another job.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know. But if he got fired to give
them their job, I hired day Ball tomorrow. He can
be a little hot headed. I'd sit down. Tom Komplin
used to have that issue. Marrow family is like, hey,
chill out, you look like a plumb on the sideline.
You're bright purple. I think Brian Dables got to, you know,
chill out a little bit. But in terms of HBO
Max Show Hard Knocks. I thought the general manager looked
a little lost and not decisive. I don't think the
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quarterback's the guy. Although I didn't think he was terrible.
Sunday I thought he was fine. I thought Daniel played
up to Daniel's ceiling. On Sunday. I thought he was fine.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Who I mean?
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I think twenty eight pass attempts and eighteen of them
were attempted at the league neighbors.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The rookie well, what she left the Dallas well, I mean,
as they're thrown to the right guy. Yeah, at least
you know. I think Dable's the strength of the franchise.
I think Dabell and the defensive front and the left
tackle or the strength of the franchise neighbors I think
will be very, very good. But he's just a He's
just one play.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
I'll give you a team for Dable if they go
four and twelve, Okay, please do that. If this Jacksonville
stuff continues to matter, and if I'm Dabel, I am
running to that Jacksonville job. Trevor Lawrence, I know he
hasn't been great, doesn't have the wins, the.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Tools were they and they've already paid him, so he
gonna at three year. By the way, his contract is
less punitive the second, the third, the fourth to fifth
year of the contract. So that's and they got some
nice pieces offensively. Now their structure in the front office
and stuff isn't perfect, but that's a good second. I
would hire stave All in a second. If if Doug
Peterson got whacked.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I don't know if Belichick would take that. I
don't know if he picks.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't want to lead Jacksonville Belichick. Solving a quarterback
is not on my radar. Belichick's got to go to
And here's the thing now, that Buffalo looks like they're really,
really good, because that was one of the ones I
looked at and I thought, oh, Belichick with Josh Allen,
you're not getting that gig. Buffalo's too good. They're not
going anywhere.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's early to crown Buffalo, just a little early early.
How the Jets do Thursday, because I think they're gonna
stay on the heels of the Buffalo bills if they
beat the Patriots big.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
If Jmack with the news, well that's the news.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
The herd Line News and Jordan of the Saints is
joining us. They're on fire, Nick right next hour the
herd hierarchy. So I saw headline this morning. Caleb Williams
is finding out what Justin Fields already knows. Oh god,
here's a little problem again. People say that it's too early.
(26:12):
No it's not. It's not too early to look at
the Rams and go, yeah, they play the Niners next,
they're in trouble. It's not too early to say Kansas
City looks like a better version of last year. I
don't buy that at all. There are red flags all
around this league. Baltimore's offensive line is a red flag.
The red flag. Don't tell me it's too early. It's
(26:34):
too early to crown Pittsburgh that hasn't thrown a touchdown, pass,
crown them. It's not too early to go. Sam Donald
looks pretty good with this coach and this team. Not
too early to say that. So Minnesota, Detroit, and Green
Bay in Chicago's division have all had moments this year
where you've gone, yeah, they're good. Minnesota just wax San Francisco.
Green Bay won with a backup quarterback, very impressive, and
(26:56):
I mean the Lions overtime went over the Rams. They
just leaned on them with that run game. Two games,
the Chicago Bears haven't had a single impressive series. I mean,
their best drive. Their only touchdown drives started at midfield
off a lousy Houston Texans punt and included a pass
interference call. They've had only one offensive drive over fifty yards.
(27:17):
Their longest play is twenty seven yard, the worst in
the league including Carolina. So this looks like a fourth
place team in a division with a lot of competent quarterbacks.
We knew Detroit and green Bay's offense would be good.
Oh crap, Minnesota's looks really good. So you gotta win
shootouts in this division because green Bay's young and getting better,
(27:38):
Detroit will get their act together, and Minnesota that coach,
that quarterback, those weapons, that left tackle, they're good. The
biggest concern for Chicago is that every single red flag
that we were concerned about, every single one, has already
surfaced through two weeks. O line issues, coaching competency, accuracy issues,
(28:03):
Keenan Allen struggling to stay healthy like he did with
the Chargers, Caleb not playing great or always in structure.
So all the red flags have surfaced and I said
the two things that I believe going into the season.
(28:24):
I said, do the Bears have this structure to take
this wildly improvisational quarterback. I mean, he's he's there's a
little you know, he's an improv quarterback. It's a lot
of off script to stuff. And then that's that was
Mahomes early. Now Mahomes now is much more structured. But
(28:46):
Mahomes years, you know, first year starting, second year starting,
there are a lot more improvisational stuff. The Chiefs had
the structure. Shane Steiken gave Jalen Hurts the structure, harbor
less quarterback reliant, giving Justin Herbert the right structure. I
don't know if the Bears have it. And I said
(29:08):
before the season, I think they are a seven or
eight win team. Are you gonna be satisfied with that?
It's allowed media and allowed fan base. So Caleb Williams
needs to be coached hard, and I don't know if
Chicago can do it. And I don't know. I mean,
I'll just throw this out there. You look at their schedule.
(29:30):
If they lose three of the next four games, you
will hear Lincoln Riley rumors. I promise you now, I
don't think Lincoln Riley wants it. He's got a great
staff at USC. They're gonna beat Michigan, they're gonna be
three and zero, they're gonna be a top five, six
to seven team. You're not gonna take that job. That's
not a good fit for Lincoln Riley. But this is
a quarterback that lives on improvisation. Brett Farv did a
(29:54):
lot of it. I'm okay with it. Lamar Jackson does
a lot of it. Mahomes early did a lot of it.
Kyler Murray this weekend did a lot of it. I'm
for it. But those kind of quarterbacks need strong coaching
to get structure, and I'm not sure it's in the building.
I am not sure it's in the building. Matt Hasselbeck yesterday.
(30:17):
You know this guy's played the position for eighteen years professionally.
On Caleb's early struggles.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
If you're counting on a rookie quarterback to play well
this whole year, like if you think this is your year,
it's not your year. I saw a guy throwing the
ball late. It's very easy to blame offensive line or
to blame scheme. But if I had to put money somewhere,
and I have a rookie quarterback. I'm guessing that the
rookie quarterback didn't get his protection or his eyes where
they needed to be when people blitz. And I think
(30:45):
that's definitely something you saw yesterday was rookie quarterback or
gonna blitch you and see if you're ready to go
on the pass protection stuff. And clearly right now it's
still it looks like someone learning on the fly.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, there's no question. Again, I'm okay with learning on
the fly, but when you are an improvisational I don't care.
If it's an improvisational actor quarterback. You need a strong
director and I just don't know Chicago's got it in
the building. And for the record, this is what we
asked before the season. We're not following this story. We've
been leading with this story. This was our question. I
(31:22):
did multiple rants archived. Are you gonna be okay? If
they win just seven games, you'll think you have a
better quarterback. But Minnesota is way better than anybody in
the league. Thought they're like the Saints. They didn't beat
San Francisco, they housed them. Green Bay just beat a
pretty good team with a backup quarterback. Who looked terrible
you know last year in Tennessee joined the Packers late
(31:44):
and they won. You know, they're going to be good
when Jordan Love gets back. And then Detroit they got
too many good players not to win a bunch of games.
So this division we thought was good. The fact that Minnesota,
who many people earmarked as a fourth place team, looks
spectacular offensively. Now that may not last. But even if
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this little streak doesn't last, Minnesota is more than capable.
I mean they were doing it this week, missing all
sorts of receivers and tight ends. So it's again seeing
a red flag. You know, Week one, Cincinnati, t Higgins
not there, Jamar Chase kind of there, a little bit
of a red flag. We got to get. We got
(32:26):
to get t Higgins in here. We got to get
Burton ramped up. Jamar Chase needs an intense week of practice.
That a little bit of a red flag. That's solvable.
Stuff those that's a red flag. I mean, Chicago's like
nine of them. It's like one of those watch towers
during like a hurricane. It's all red flags up and down.
It like it's it's a problem. I don't I don't
(32:47):
I don't even know what I can take out of it.
When you have the look, when you have the twenty
seven yard plays, your biggest play, even Carolinas. I haven't
watched every second of Carolina, but apparently that's the worst
in the league, meaning Carolina's got a twenty eight yard
play somewhere that ain't good.
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
All you Bonnicks Bronco haters, be very very careful, so
I saw this today overreaction Tuesday. NFL offenses through two weeks,
fewest touchdown passes since two thousand and six, fewest passing
yards since ninety six fus pass attempts to the first
(34:52):
two weeks since nineteen ninety one, lowest red zone touchdown
percentage since two thousand and six. Everybody's freaking out. So
you know, I I think this is explainable. There's a
lot of different things all converging. But you have fewer
padded practices in the NFL and fewer starters playing in
the preseason. And what's happening is more than anything that
hurts offensive lines and rhythm. Offense is about rhythm and timing.
(35:19):
Defense is about alignment and pursuit. So that's your explanation.
You got offensive lines. That's why Atlanta's O line looks
great because they return all of them, or or you know,
a Saint O line or a Philadelphia O line looked
good last night. You're returning most of your players, right,
so that helps. So offense has always been about rhythm
(35:44):
and timing. I mean Tom Brady and his prime would
take his receivers on vacation. He didn't take his guards
on vacation or his corners on vacation. He took his receivers.
So and also, scoring down doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong.
The up and underdogs had a great weekend. That's great.
(36:04):
Every league wants some parody. So I mean, last night
was great television. Did you watch last night and think
the league's in a bad spot. I thought it was
absolutely sensational TV with two very good quarterbacks spinning it,
two very strong run games, two very good offensive lines.
Here's my wacky take that starting this weekend, in the
(36:26):
following weeks three, four, five, six, you're going to see
offenses a offensive lines. Young quarterbacks will improve, offensive lines
will get better, rhythm. Defenses tend to have more injuries
than offense, and they'll start getting banged up, and everybody
will be fine offensively except the Carolina Panthers. They'll stink.
(36:49):
Everybody else will get better, all right. So zero to
two is generally not good. Since the he went to
seventeen games, twenty one teams have started oh to two,
only two have made the playoffs. So the list of
teams this year that are ower and to include one
of those teams that went on and to and made
(37:11):
the playoffs the Bengals. And I will tell you right now,
I think the Bengals have a legitimate shot to face
Kansas City in the AFC championship. Here's what we know
about the Cincinnati Bengals. They never get good until pumpkins
spice lattes are available, so they're about a week from
turning it on. Once the leaves turn orange, they get good.
(37:34):
Joe Burrow's been owing to multiple times, fifth time in
six years, they're owing two. They're fine, okay, on once
Joe Burrow's got the you know, the new hair thing,
once the once the roots go dark again, they're gonna
be just fine. I'm in on Cincinnati. Why coach, do
you see what Jake Browning did last year? A backup
(37:55):
quarterback was Zach Taylor? Stop telling me Zach Taylor can't coach.
He's more than capable, not Andy Reid more than capable quarterback,
a pass rush, a weapons right now, a B. But
T Higgins comes around, they're back to being a B
plus a minus. They're gonna be fine. So I'm not
worried at all. Even against Kansas City in the fourth quarter,
(38:16):
they had double the yards of Kansas City on the
road Arrowhead against an excellent top three defense in the league.
They're going to be fine. There are teams that are
ower and too, like the Ravens have o line issues,
The Rams have major injury issues. Those teams are in trouble,
The Giants a lot of things. You know, there are
teams that are ower and to Carolina is just bad.
(38:39):
But Cincinnati is a pass interference call from being one
to one, and they went toe to toe and down
the stretch. Looked every bit as good as Kansas City.
And I think Kansas City is a better version than
last year's Super Bowl team. So think of teams in
terms of components. Think of teams in terms of component.
Do you have an a quarterback check, a pass rush check,
(39:03):
eventually a weapons check. Coach capable? I say this, you
get to a super Bowl. It's not all Burrow, okay.
Zach Taylor's he's from the Sean McVay tree, like Kevin O'Connell.
There's two groups of coaches in this league that almost
all their assistants work. Sean mcvay's and Kyle Shanahan's. Their
(39:26):
assistant unlike Belichick, is stunk. That's why I hired all
of them back. Like McVeigh and Shanahan's, guy's work. Zach
Taylor's really smart here. He talks about their own two start.
Speaker 11 (39:39):
You don't anticipate the start. That's not what we anticipate.
But at the same time, I think there's a lot
of things that will continue to build off of and
we're gonna be in the right direction. Everyone's got to
be on top of all the details. And we can't
get these guys an chine. We got to find a
way to make every play we can and get this
first win. But you know, so there's still a lot
of football off to play offident our guys, we're gonna
(40:00):
respond the right way this week.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yep. Go look at their schedule. Go look at their schedule.
They're gonna win six of their next seven games. They're
beating Washington, Carolina, host Baltimore Giants, Cleveland, Philadelphia Raiders. Look
at that schedule. I mean, we knew Kansas City was
gonna be tough. Carolina is worse than we thought. Washington's
(40:23):
worse than I thought. Giants are the Giants Raiders have
been adorable, but that's not gonna last. They're fine. It's Tuesday.
It's week two. Tuesday heard hierarchy. It's wacky.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
It's wacky.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Indeed, yes, doesn't mean it's inaccurate, just like less offense
doesn't mean bad football,
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