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Speaker 1 (00:25):
With that, we go to Jordan Palmer, founder a quarterback Summit.
He's worked with everybody, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Sam Donald, Joe Burrow,
Trevor Lawrence. First of all, let's start with Sam Darnald,
somebody I like, probably more than everybody, all the experts.
I liked it. I liked him as a kid. I
thought he was kind of chill, tough, physical mechanically was
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not great, and like most of these young quarterbacks Jordan,
I thought he needs the right fit. It's taken him
a while. But this does not appear to be a mirage.
You watch all this stuff. What is he doing? Have
the mechanics and cleaned up with Sam Donald?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, I think this is this business is right time,
right place, right for coaches, for front office guys, and
in particular for quarterbacks, and so while I believe and
know because I've been around it a lot that Sam
Donald has continued to improve physically, throwing, footwork, all that
he's learned a lot of football every year. Which, by
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the way, anybody who's playing in the NFL year after
year after year, whether they're a starter or a.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Backup, is should be growing and getting better.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But it's the right time, in the right place, because
when he was coming out of college, he hadn't really
dealt with real adversity. You know, he was a Southern
California guy and solid high school program and career and
solid career at SC. You know, they had the Rose
Bowl and then kind of whatever the next year, but
it wasn't like real adversity. Well, then go to New
York for two, Carolina for two. He's dealt with real adversity.
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And so it's easy to say when somebody's going through adversity,
and there's a lot of people doing that right now.
Bryce Shong just got benched that we as a fan
or media, we say, well, this is where he's apt,
and you don't factor in, well, this is what they're
going to this is how much they're going to grow
from that, And I just think what Sam's done every
single year is grow by the way, and so that
growth plus what he is now, he's in a situation
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where he just has to play the best of his abilities,
as I mentioned last time I was on the show,
and they're going to be in every game with a
chance to make a run.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Bryce Young gets benched. Reportedly this morning he was ticked
off for an offensive coach, knowing his age, who rebuilt
Gino and Baker to bench him after two starts. You
could say it's panic or are they seeing stuff with
Bryce Young but just not fixable. I mean that's two games,
is not even one eighth of the season. What do
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you make of that?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think there's a.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Whole discussion that I can have and I've had with
other people, and you know, with the Bama guys.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That was a Bama yesterday, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Talking through your guys, and there's a whole discussion around
what Bryce is or is not doing.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
On game tap, you can have a coners by anybody's playing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I just think how well or poorly Bryce Young is
playing right now has nothing to do with the situation.
This league is about ownership and the move to go
get him and what they had to give up to
get him. The reality is this is if you're going
to make a move to bring in a rookie quarterback
and play him right away, it needs to be a
couple of things. It needs to be a set, entrenched
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locker room where there is a community and there is
a culture. Right, we use that word a lot, but
there has to be a culture whereverybody believes the same thing.
You have to have the playmakers around him, but good
enough at o line, good enough at pass catcher. You
have to have a foundation around them so that they
can come in and struggle.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's not glaringly all on them, right, And when you
look at the reasons and the situations you'd want to
put a high draft pick rookie quarterback in, which they
did last year, this was the worst one I've seen.
This is the worst situation I've seen. They had to
give away his best receiver just to get him, right
a trade with the trade with Chicago, and so then
to then go to two games in and make this move,
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I think it. The way I look at this has
way less to do with what Bryce is or is
not doing, And this is just gonna be an example,
I think we look back on for a long time
at what an owner who's just making decisions, and it's
just hard to make an argue that these aren't terrible decisions,
and how it's snowballing and what it's gonna cost this
young man. Now, the good news is on this for
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for Bryce, and I don't know how the rest of
the year is gonna go for him. We're seeing a
resurgence with some of these other guys Sam Darnold, Like
we just talked about Baker, some of these other high
picks who ended up reaching their potential and uh and
finding the group. So I do not think this is
the end for Bryce Young and I'm excited to see
what he does with this, but I think this is
more about the owner than him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Interestingly, that's happened more than once. Carson Wentz had a
great year in Indie, and Jimmer Say didn't like the
last game against the Jags, and Chris Bowdler was looking
for a quarterback. Josh Allen somebody you know very very well.
Oh and you know your quarterback Summit. You know him well.
Stefan Diggs leaves. I don't know, did I watch him?
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He thinks he looks comfortable, he looks I've seen no
drop off. What's Josh doing.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I think it's not just Semai, it's Gabe Davis too.
I mean gave Davis. I don't know what his stats
were every year, but I know he made big plays
and big moments. Yeah, and they counted on it. Look
NFL teams do this all the time in the coaching
side of things. Right, you have success, you lose the coordinator.
They lost Brian Dave All few years ago. Right in
the front office, you lose your assistant GM to go
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take a GM job, and so you have to be
able when things are going well to replace.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Now, that's not exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Here, because there's different reasons contractually whatever why Stefan moved
on and why Gave Davis moved on. And what they've
done is basically say, there's two guys who made up
a lion's share of our targets last year, and we're
going to replace them with some newer guys. Colitch Shakur
has been he's growing. Dalton Kinkaid year two, he's growing.
But you know, with Curtis Samuel and key On Coleman,
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we're adding new guys in. I think this is the
perfect time to do that. You have a quarterback who
can win all sorts of ways. He can take over
a game and win with his legs. He's also he's
always distributed the ball. Yeah, Stephan Dick's had a lot
of targets. I think he was third in the league
last two years. It's not a lot of targets, but
Josh has proven to throw a ball anybody. And then
when I said earlier about culture, this Buffalo Bill's culture
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in that locker room and what they have there, this
is the perfect time and it's the perfect culture and
locker room to play three or four different new guys,
whether they're free agents or rookies, and let's let's play,
and let's see who ends up making plays for us
that we can count on to fill in those roles
instead of trying to lose, instead of losing Stephan Digs
trying to replace him with a different person, and then
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losing Gave Davison trying to replace that exact person. Let's
get some young, hungry people who fit with our culture
in our locker room, who can make plays and let
this superstar quarterback direct traffic. And I think the crema
rise at the top in one or two of these
guy going to at the end of the year end
up being We'll sit back and go Yeah, they filled
that role pretty well.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think Keenan Allen not playing does hurt. I think
a veteran wide receiver, possession guy, third down guy is hurting.
Caleb Williams O line hasn't been great. Are you optimistic
that the Bears offense and Caleb will show promise or
growth this year?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I said I think a month ago to you,
I thought it would be a hot start for Caleb,
just because I know the talent level and his understanding
of the game and how he processes it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it's been a slow start for them.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But honestly, this goes back to the Brice conversation, the
whole conversation around rookies and playing and Tom Brady talked
about it last week and all that, and the reality
is is there's a lot of newness. There's things that
he did in college. He ran around that game in
Houston right ran around and got sacked. I think he
ran around one time.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He threw a pick.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well in those games twelve months ago, he was running
around and that was the highlight reel in the Heisman, right,
he was breaking those tackles. I remember I watched Kyler
Murray his rookie year, Kyle Allen was playing for the Panthers,
got his first start.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
It was at Arizona. Kyle's from Arizona.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I went to the game and Kyle wan he threw
for three hundred yards. But I watched Kyler Murray get
sacked like seven or eight times in that game. And
the reality is is I put like one or two
of those sacks on the whole line. Kyler was trying
to get out of the pocket and make a play
and was running into sacks.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
When you have these.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hyper mobile quarterbacks who had success running around in college
getting the edge making people miss buying time, it doesn't
necessarily translate in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All these guys are fast, all these guys are long.
It's hard to get the edge.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And so I think Caleb's going through a little bit
of this works last year, what is going to work
And so we'll condemn him and say, oh, he's running
around too much. The reality is is, well, you can't
practice that in practice. And so I think Caleb's going
through a phase where there's things he needs to clean up.
There's plays to be made that he's not. There's obviously
positions around him that need to step up. But I
think the main thing with Caleb and other hyper mobile guys,
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and I'm watching Jayden Daniels on this as well, is
you got to learn in games what you could get
away with in college? Can you still get away with
that in the league? And that just takes reps and
it just takes games.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Finally it's again you know these guys. He was a
Southern California kid, CJ. Stroud. Sometimes there's just guys. We
were talking during the break. I don't know if it's
it or feel his anticipation. Some guys hold the ball
just too long and they can never get over it.
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They just can't get over it. This kid's anticipation is
insane to me. He's been in the league twelve years.
Are you surprised by what you see with c J. Stroud?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was surprised at how quickly he was playing at
an elite level last year. I won't be surprised of
anything that happens this year. I won't be surprised if
he's the MVP, I won't be surprised if he's in
the super Bowl or wins. I won't be surprised with
anything with him more than I was that how quickly
he was playing at a the elite not good for
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a rookie level, but in the elite level, I think
the last month or so of the season, he was arguably.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
The best play in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and so I think what it is is I
had a coach when I was in Chicago. He called
certain throws unconscious throws where you just throw it and
it fits into a window. And by the way, every
starter in the league has these. CJ at a young
age has more unconscious throws where he is ripping it
into a window as if he could care less about
if it's if he should and if it's gonna get broken.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Up or if the guy's gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He just absolutely lets that thing go as if there's
no ramifications. Now, a lot of people have done that,
and they also that leads to a lot of turnovers.
But I think he had the fewest picks last year.
So his combination of letting it rip, trusting his eyes,
trusting what he's seen, trusting what they talked about this
week in practice, and dialed up, letting it go as
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if there's no consequences, and yet he also barely ever
throws interceptions, And I just think it's one of the
more impressive things I've seen in the young player.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
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Speaker 3 (11:02):
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Speaker 1 (11:28):
Start, played in the NFL. Good business man, great guy
knows this stuff with quarterbacks. We love having him. Good
seeing Jordan Zola's.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Thanks calling you bet.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, the CJ. Stroud stuff. Man, it is just the
ability great co Seal showed is to let go of
the ball when the guy's not open and just trust her.
And by the way, a lot of his targets are
they're young it's not like these are veteran receivers, like
they're young guys. Houston's a young team. Then you add
Joe Mix into it. Now they got the big run game.
It's impressive. Yeah. Rob Lowe's around the corner today Herd
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Speaker 5 (12:33):
Got to start with the Saints, Colin We barely talked
about them all off season, and yet here they are
through two weeks. Ninety one points. Just an unbelievable start
to the season. New Orleans also became the third team
in NFL history to score at least thirty points in
the first half in each of their first two games.
But Derek Carr knows that they need to continue to
take things week by week.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Oh it's hard score no that many times at less. Wait,
and obviously you want to continue to do that, and
why keep putting pressure on defenses and things like that.
But to be honest, like I would, I don't. I
don't think that I have. You know, obviously you see
the stats, you see the numbers out there for the
whole offense, and uh, you know what it's been in
history and all that kind of stuff, And it's cool,
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but at the same time, doesn't mean anything this week.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Hard to bet against them the way they've looked and
Philadelphia's inability to win and go vertical without aj Brown.
It's hard to go against the Saints. Yeah, no, I
want to because I think it's a little bit of
a bubble here. You've heard an economic bubble, a little
bit of a football bubble here with the Saints. Hard
to go against them after what I watched on Monday
with the back end of that Eagles defense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna have to change their offense
without Brown, like they just can't get vertical. And meanwhile,
the Saints ken with Shaheed who's been amazing and Olave.
They got weapons all of a sudden, and I just
got to say, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Only two weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
But Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, if he somehow keeps
this up, he's got a leapfrog past. Ben Johnson is
the number one can.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
There's no question, there is absolutely because Detroit scuffing and
you you hit on it, strike when the iron is hot.
Ben Johnson was the top coordinator, turns stuff down. And
and what's interesting is I watched the Saints last year
and I don't know how much you did, but they
got kind of dink and dunk. So they're a vertical
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team now.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, it was weird because Peyton left with the guy
Pete Carmichael. Voc kept trying to run the Peyton.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Offense and it was like just very pedestrian. Nothing work.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Incomes Kubiak, and it looks dramatically different. It almost looks
like a Shanahan offense, does it not. Kubiak has a
rich lineage. Obviously we know his father. This guy has
starred him written all over, Like I mean, if the
Giants job's open, if the Jets job's open, Dallas Cowboys,
somebody is gonna make a play for this guy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't know if he leaves after.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Just one year, but whether it's Slowick Kubiak like these
guys are going to be in demand, and Ben Johnson
turn things around in Detroit pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Generally, if you're a hot shot coordinator and you're young,
people want two years. But there it's just it's the
Shanahan offense. It works. It's working with Rock Purty. Derek
carrs never looked this good in his career and I
was a big defender of himn In, you know, with
the Raiders, He's never looked like this.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
All right, next story, Colin, This is a bit of
a crazy story. Dan Campbell in the Lions right awesome
season last year. They come on the doorstep of the
Super Bowl. They turned the franchise around in Detroit, one
of the worst franchises in NFL history.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
We'll get this.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
They lose their game Sunday right to the Bucks, and
a report out of Detroit indicates that Dan Campbell put
his house on the market because his quote is people
figured out where we lived when we lost. People started
bothering Dan Campbell and his family after that Sunday loss,
they put their house on the market and have sold
it and he's moving to a gated g This is
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disgusting and I know this is a big bugaboo years
fan is short for fanatic, and people are freaking out.
But how clueless are these Lions fans, Colin? They have
done nothing for decades. Dan Campbell comes, turns it around
and off one loss to Tampa and you're gonna go
bother the guy in his family to the point that
he's got to move.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This is a little discussed bad bad good. Thank goodness,
Detroit's got some of the best suburbs in the country,
so there's plenty of places to live, plenty of space.
Just embarrassing we're seeing that.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Remember the Giants lose that first game and the fans
were waiting for Daniel Jones in the.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Parking lot to harass him.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Moral Like, I don't know, Colin, is social media changing things?
Like we know you can find out where Dan Campbell
lives in a heartbeat online, but like, why are people
I'm trying to just get to the root of what
the hell these guys are thinking? Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think social media gives people courage, you know, they
say things they'd never say to their face. I mean,
go to your social media. Have you ever had anybody
come up and be like rude to you?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
One guy remember at that WNBA game, one guy got
on me for the Cam Newton case and all right,
but by.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Of the people in your social media are rude?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Ye?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean I've been doing this thirty years I've had
I mean, I can't even remember the last everybody's overwhelmingly sweet, nice, thoughtful, complimentary.
Literally when I used to watch, what I got, ninety
nine percent was you're the worst guy ever. So, like,
I think people have gotten more courage through social media
and now it's manifesting into more courage physically.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
By the way, Dan Campbell, good luck getting physical with
Dan Campbell. He is huge a former NFL tight end.
These Lions fans, man, just wake up. Final story, Colin
is we talked a lot about Bryce young bench this
week in favor of Andy Dalton. Well, the former number
one picks getting support from a lot of people. Remember
Lebron tweeted about it. Well, another former number one pick
who was under a ton of pressure to perform has
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chimed in, and that's Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Obviously mine didn't happen in the same timeframe with Bryce.
But quarterbacks are especially for young guys when you're not
surrounded with the pieces. A lot of the time, guys
have the talent, they might have the brains, but they
don't have the right opportunity right sit. I mean, I'm
sitting here right now in a way better fit than
the other places I've had. And that's that's not to
put other teams down, but it's a matter of the
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pieces around you, the coaches, and for Bryce, the guy
that you know I can relate to this, finding that
belief within yourself again and.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He'll get it. His story's far far finished. Yeah, quarterback
in this league is way more situational than people think,
way more situational. It's not a shock that Mahomes and
Brady ab dominated the last twenty years, and over the
last twenty years they have the two best coaches. It's
not a shock. I mean it's really funny. You look
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at Aikman, Well, you had a Hall of Fame coach
Dan Fouts, Eric core O, coach Dan Marino, winning his
coach Don Shula, John Elway, A Shanahan. Find me the
great quarterback with a bad coach, Terry Bradshaw, the great
Chuck Nole.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean we also need to give these guys
some patients. Troy Iggan I think started one in fifteen.
Peyton Manning was led the league in interceptions to the
like it happens, but with Young two games into the
second year and they pulled the plug. I don't how
do you bounce back from this?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Mentally? You know we had Jordan Palmer on earlier. We
keep saying, I can't believe Dave Canalis did this. How
do we know it's not the owner? Oh, you think
it's crazy? Jim mersay. Basically, Carson Wentz had twenty seven
touchdown seven picks, the most efficient he ever was. He
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loses to the Jags, or say said get.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Rid of him.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
They had to go get old Philip Rivers and now
at quarterback, we don't know what they have discouraging his
owners are rough. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It is put the NFL schedule up again. I want
to see this thing again. I'm gonna ask you, j Mac.
I just want one big upset now, big upset. We're
not talking yeah, I mean like like like NFL schedule,
will put up. Give me one upset this weekend. Week one,
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we got the Bengals losing to the Patriots, so nobody
guessed that one. Right now, I don't have Oh, don't
go Denver, Broncos.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Give me vot Niggs in Tampa. Now, I just saw
mcglinchy the right tackle. Sounds like he's not gonna play Denver.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's not good.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Now, Bulls's defense is missing Vitave a bunch of dudes.
But Bulls is gonna dial up some blitzes. I'm sure
for Nicks. This will be Knicks's easiest game, though, given
the opponents he's faced in Seattle and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
What's the line? What is the line? Detroit at Arizona three,
Arizona getting three? Yeah? At home?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I I think Detroit bounces back, but I'm not sure,
not positive. By the way, underdogs of I believe it,
six or more are like eight to o or nine
hours against. And there's been no double digit favorites this season.
So the parody is really like a thing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Even the Chiefs Colin thing. Okay, I'll give you my opposite.
Oh great, Atlanta, Atlanta beats the Chiefs outright, yep, what's
out a four and a half point spread? I think
three and a half Atlanta beats the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It's not the worst pick in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I do have Chiefs tentatively on my card.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I was looking at them and now I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Like, no. I you know, it's so funny when you
when you say stuff in the NFL, you're like, not
gonna half hot take like it happens a lot the game.
I'm really fascinated with. I just Justin Herbert is practicing today.
That's good. Yeah. So I boy, if the if Jim
Harbaugh goes three and oh and Atlanta beats Kansas City,
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so how about Chargers may never be in second place again.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
So if you want to tease the Chargers up because
the Steelers can, they're not capable of blowing people out.
They only play one score game. So you find the Chargers,
tease them up, and then you find a second game
that you like, uh, maybe the Ravens. Do you see
them getting blasted and down as I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
By the way, Justin Herbert's ankle this just came down
is heavily taped per reporters. Now, I would say young
athlete ankles are not knees, so an ankle over the
next he gets to sleep on it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
He's got four you know it's Thursday. He's gonna play Sunday.
He's got four days for a young athlete to heal.
I think he'll be fine. They're not gonna obviously, he's
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not gonna move like he did, so they're gonna depend
on their run game and short passing. But Quinton Williams
look pretty good last week. Just something to think.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
About Johnston, Quinton john Yeah, Johnson touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Guy couldn't catch a cold last year. Now he's done.
I thought he was a bust and now he's not.
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because this guy is over promising things we never have
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Speaker 9 (23:30):
Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should
be good at it because you've been over promising women
for years.
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want you to be a part of it. We're gonna
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about something or we didn't have enough time, it will
continue on our after show called over Promised.
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, he made his acting debut at fifteen years old,
actor filmmaker, podcast host He's Got the podcast literally now
second season of the Floor, which is a very sticky.
That's a term people use, a very sticky game show,
and it's premiering Wednesday at nine. He's also a massive
sports fan who I had lunch with last week. So
(24:30):
I'm gonna go fanboy on this. Okay, just right, tolerate
my nonsense for five minutes. He's a great storyteller. So
there are movies that just wear well, and then there's
great movies that don't. When you were making Tommy Boy, okay,
so I think that's just like it's like hangover Tommy Boy.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Jack Lemon had a couple of these in his day,
a couple of comedies that you could watch them today
and you're like this, Mary Tyler Moore is still funny today. Yes,
there are tears. Yes, did you know during tom was
there a moment with you Spade and you're like, oh,
this is going to be huge.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
No, never a moment ever.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That one, not one.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I mean, the notion of that movie has become what
it has become, and it is. I mean it. I
have people all walks of life consistently stopped me, same
with Spade, and it just has become a beloved movie.
And we never would have thought ever, I mean we
(25:32):
thought we were making something that could be good. Never
saw it, never saw it coming. Having the staying power ever.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now you were Outstanding Lead Actor Emmy nomination for West Wing,
which is one of the great in my opinion, is
one of the seminal last great American television shows. That
Uh Sopranos was HBO. So it's one of the last shows.
It's like I'm watching network. Cheers had this when I
was younger.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
It was the last great network show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yes, I think Modern Family was damn funny. Yes, it
was Modern Family. Steve levitat the writer that was damn funny.
So when you were on the West Wing, it also
stories I've read it's a lot more than people think.
It's egos writing. Was that enjoyable or was it just successful?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Here's okay. The way I always put it is, no
one ever wants to hear how hard it was to
be in the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You got all these great actors. Nobody wants nobody.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
They just want to love the show, which is great.
It happened to be a very complicated set for any
number of reasons, but the work was always so amazing
and we all knew how grateful we were. We were
all very grateful to be on it. So we were
under no illusion. That's when we knew we were making
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something great. We knew we were making something great. Meanwhile,
that thing of you never want to hear how they
make the sausage, right, that wasn't very pretty. But but
but the outcome, I mean is one of the things.
It's probably the thing I'm most proud of. Still.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Now you knew the Austin Power stuff because Mike Myers
was red hot, He's brilliant. You knew that was going
to be big.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I I did the studio, didn't. I mean, think about all.
I think, just go back. I know it's almost impossible
because of what that movie became and what it was,
But like, here's the pitch. So it's a it's a
James Bond parody of a of a guy with bad
teeth with a Cockney accent, and then there's a ball
guy named doctor. People are like what, But we all
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knew it would work on the set.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yes, just funny.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Oh, I will never forget being there when he was
ad libbing as Doctor Evil to little Vern Treuer that
looks like a baby in me, I'd like to eat
that baby.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, you just die right, you knew it was big? Yeah,
so you you know it's you had a you know,
like a lot of young stars in Los Angeles. You know,
it is impossible not to dabble in the crazy side
of life, but you actually are a doting dad husband
(28:18):
it is. Do you ever think if you, I mean
you had the self awareness to get it right?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Yeah, I've been sober thirty four years.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, what got you? There was there an epiphany, a moment,
a party?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, oh really?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
And what's interesting about they call them? You know, when
you hit your bottom right, and everybody has a different bottom.
Some are really really you know, they're in jail. They
some of them are really bad. Mind what wasn't all
that bad? But it was enough for me to go,
you know what, this is untenable. I'm never gonna have
the kind of life I dream about. I'm never going
to be able to make it work.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
With one woman.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
And it was just as simple as my beloved grandfather
had had a heart attack and my mom was calling
me in the days of answering machines, and I could
hear her on the answering machine saying pick up, pick up,
pick up, but I was in no shape to do it,
so I didn't pick up. And I just hated that
about myself and I went into the bathroom. I looked
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myself in the mirror like a bat. It was like
a bad movie. It was like an after school special.
I literally went in and looked at myself in the
mirror and was like, this has got to end. And
made a phone call, went to rehab, which I loved.
I treated like training camp, training camp for life. Loved it.
And that was thirty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Good for you, thanks for sharing that. Speaking of you
said bottom and when you said that, I thought floor
and you you are on this is fascinating. So you
did a game show and people think, oh, Rob Win
around the corner. No, you actually went to Dublin tell
people about this show is hot and sticky.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, it's amazing. How how embraced this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Basically, you're send everybody that Ireland.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
This show's become a phenomenon. I never saw that talking
about not seeing it coming.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I knew this.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
The game was great, super addicting. I knew people liked it,
but you never know if it's going to pop off
like it has and what's so interesting is is we
shoot it in Ireland and we go to Ireland because
it makes financial sense to do it. But it's just
one of the great sort of inside Hollywood stories that
that that's that's where we do it is just kind
(30:30):
of like, like what.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Really and you shoot a season very quickly.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
We can shoot a season in ten days. It's a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Take your golf clubs. It sure did because you're a
great golfer.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
How about this I got I got off the an
international flight, went right to a run through, went to
the hotel, just pulled out my golf clothes. There was
a course right next to the hotel, and went and
shot tied my career best shot, a seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You're jut legged like.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It's great for the golf swing.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That slows it down. You're on a short list of
the best celebrity golfers. You just want a tournament, didn't Gerald?
Didn't you? I did?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
They can't take it away from me at riv I
won a golf tournament. A riff now it was it
was my son John Owen, Michael Crabtree. Yeah, she's an athlete.
And then okay, I'm gonna what is this amazing actress's
name is a great golfer. Newton is her last name.
I'll think of her first name. But she's a stick.
We basically won because she was such a stick, but
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still a win's win. I'm taking it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, you're a huge, You're a big We talked about
this at lunch. You're a big baseball fan. Love baseball,
you love Did you play it?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I did?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I played it up until coaches started saying you missed
practice for your auditions and they kicked me off the team.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, Walker Bueller just went to practice. You had audition, Walker.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Bueler went to practice. I had auditions. I could have
been Walker Bueler.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You were on NBA commercials years and years and years ago.
NBA is fant Yes, it's hard to explain to people
because people think Los Angeles it's the beach. They don't
care about sports.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Lakers, when they're hot, will always be number one
in the city, not the NFL, not the Dodgers. Take
people back. It's it's incredible to the magic Johnson. I mean,
they're making movies about it. Take them back to that.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
I don't even know where to begin. I mean, what
what magic meant to this town. When he arrived here,
it was like Santa Claus had arrived. And then he
lived up to it. What he did in that game
six in Philadelphia, where he played all five.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Positions forty two point seventeen boards, he played center, basically.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Center in his rookie year. You you just can't believe.
And then, of course the style of play which has
now you know, been you know, every other team has
adapted that run and gun was not a thing.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's right, it was, It didn't. It's amazing. There are athletes, infrequent,
but athletes. If you go back and look at Magic's
rookie year, second year rob like most of that stuff,
like Jim Brown, people say could play today. Magic would
still be today if you look at it. Usually things
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don't age well. Best player in the league, I said,
Michael and Magic are much closer. Michael got the nine finals.
No no, no, Magic did Michael got the six. The
Blackhawks are in the Western Conference in hockey. If the
Bulls were in the Western Conference, Michael goes to a
final or two and loses to Bird or Isaiah, and
we get over this six for sixty. Magic was in
(33:43):
the finals nine times and retired early.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Yes, he could have played as long as he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Have You ever been to an event with Magic in
La When Magic enters Staples, they stand.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Yes, they do to this day. They do it all
over the world. I've seen him in Europe and I mean,
first of all, he can't hide. There's no one who
looks like him. Everybody knows what he looks like. Smile,
big smile, smile the energy. I mean. My two guys
growing up were Magic and Sugar Ray Leonard. Oh yeah,
those are the guys I never bet against. They were
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the classiest, best in class. And to have had floor
seats for that run and even into Shaq and Kobe,
We'll never see anything like it again.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Has there ever been a sports movie you wanted to
be in or you were offered and didn't. Do you
have a favorite sports movie?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Well, what I'm what I want to do is I
want to remake the all time greatest sports movie. I'm
too old for it now Brian's song.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh God, I cry. I watched that as a kid.
We all cried to it.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Okay, this is my philosophy. Is you ask any boomer male?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It was the first sports movie. It was the first
movie we cried to right, I'm not crazy. No, Brian's
song is, in fact, I not joking. I looked it
up on YouTube a month ago. I was sitting there
getting nostalgic. But these guys are looking at me. They're
all on their third You have no idea what Brian
song is.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
For all listeners' viewers out there, find it. I think
it's on YouTube. Yes, it is James Kahn and the Peak,
Billy d Will.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Williams, gayl Saylors, Brian Piccolow, it's Gail.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Sayers, Brian Piccolo, Chicago Bears it is. It's by far,
hands down, not close, the best sports movie ever made.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I'm not arguing a month ago. I looked it up.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
By the way, this is a man who makes his
living being a contrarian, and he is not arguing. That
is an I'm glad. I feel like I've accomplished something here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, I like Hoosiers, but I didn't cry the
natural I liked it. Miracle I think is great. Yes, Miracle,
you got one, Rudy. They're all good. None of them
made me cry. That's not that's you know. Okay, you've
aged well. Robin actor Filmmaker podcast host The Floor Season
(35:58):
two premiere on septemb Number twenty fifth here on Fox,
and uh, what a pleasure to see again. Man.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Yes, I love coming here and talk at sports. You
it's just the best.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
One of the great lunches of all time. My wife's
rarely jealous of me. I mentioned multiple times. Gets who
had lunch today was shut up, Yeah, Rob.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Low, We'll do it again and more. Lunch is to come.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Good Tina Bute, the hurt
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
With that, we go to Jordan Palmer, founder a quarterback Summit.
He's worked with everybody, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Sam Donald, Joe Burrow,
Trevor Lawrence. First of all, let's start with Sam Darnald,
somebody I like, probably more than everybody, all the experts.
I liked it. I liked him as a kid. I
thought he was kind of chill, tough, physical mechanically was
(00:45):
not great, and like most of these young quarterbacks Jordan,
I thought he needs the right fit. It's taken him
a while. But this does not appear to be a mirage.
You watch all this stuff. What is he doing? Have
the mechanics and cleaned up with Sam Donald?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, I think this is this business is right time,
right place, right for coaches, for front office guys, and
in particular for quarterbacks, and so while I believe and
know because I've been around it a lot that Sam
Donald has continued to improve physically, throwing, footwork, all that
he's learned a lot of football every year. Which, by
(01:24):
the way, anybody who's playing in the NFL year after
year after year, whether they're a starter or a.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Backup, is should be growing and getting better.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But it's the right time, in the right place, because
when he was coming out of college, he hadn't really
dealt with real adversity. You know, he was a Southern
California guy and solid high school program and career and
solid career at SC. You know, they had the Rose
Bowl and then kind of whatever the next year, but
it wasn't like real adversity. Well, then go to New
York for two, Carolina for two. He's dealt with real adversity.
(01:52):
And so it's easy to say when somebody's going through adversity,
and there's a lot of people doing that right now.
Bryce Shong just got benched that we as a fan
or media, we say, well, this is where he's apt,
and you don't factor in, well, this is what they're
going to this is how much they're going to grow
from that, And I just think what Sam's done every
single year is grow by the way, and so that
growth plus what he is now, he's in a situation
(02:15):
where he just has to play the best of his abilities,
as I mentioned last time I was on the show,
and they're going to be in every game with a
chance to make a run.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Bryce Young gets benched. Reportedly this morning he was ticked
off for an offensive coach, knowing his age, who rebuilt
Gino and Baker to bench him after two starts. You
could say it's panic or are they seeing stuff with
Bryce Young but just not fixable. I mean that's two games,
is not even one eighth of the season. What do
(02:44):
you make of that?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think there's a.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Whole discussion that I can have and I've had with
other people, and you know, with the Bama guys.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That was a Bama yesterday, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Talking through your guys, and there's a whole discussion around
what Bryce is or is not doing.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
On game tap, you can have a coners by anybody's playing.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I just think how well or poorly Bryce Young is
playing right now has nothing to do with the situation.
This league is about ownership and the move to go
get him and what they had to give up to
get him. The reality is this is if you're going
to make a move to bring in a rookie quarterback
and play him right away, it needs to be a
couple of things. It needs to be a set, entrenched
(03:22):
locker room where there is a community and there is
a culture. Right, we use that word a lot, but
there has to be a culture whereverybody believes the same thing.
You have to have the playmakers around him, but good
enough at o line, good enough at pass catcher. You
have to have a foundation around them so that they
can come in and struggle.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
But it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's not glaringly all on them, right, And when you
look at the reasons and the situations you'd want to
put a high draft pick rookie quarterback in, which they
did last year, this was the worst one I've seen.
This is the worst situation I've seen. They had to
give away his best receiver just to get him, right
a trade with the trade with Chicago, and so then
to then go to two games in and make this move,
(04:03):
I think it. The way I look at this has
way less to do with what Bryce is or is
not doing, And this is just gonna be an example,
I think we look back on for a long time
at what an owner who's just making decisions, and it's
just hard to make an argue that these aren't terrible decisions,
and how it's snowballing and what it's gonna cost this
young man. Now, the good news is on this for
(04:25):
for Bryce, and I don't know how the rest of
the year is gonna go for him. We're seeing a
resurgence with some of these other guys Sam Darnold, Like
we just talked about Baker, some of these other high
picks who ended up reaching their potential and uh and
finding the group. So I do not think this is
the end for Bryce Young and I'm excited to see
what he does with this, but I think this is
more about the owner than him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Interestingly, that's happened more than once. Carson Wentz had a
great year in Indie, and Jimmer Say didn't like the
last game against the Jags, and Chris Bowdler was looking
for a quarterback. Josh Allen somebody you know very very well.
Oh and you know your quarterback Summit. You know him well.
Stefan Diggs leaves. I don't know, did I watch him?
(05:09):
He thinks he looks comfortable, he looks I've seen no
drop off. What's Josh doing.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I think it's not just Semai, it's Gabe Davis too.
I mean gave Davis. I don't know what his stats
were every year, but I know he made big plays
and big moments. Yeah, and they counted on it. Look
NFL teams do this all the time in the coaching
side of things. Right, you have success, you lose the coordinator.
They lost Brian Dave All few years ago. Right in
the front office, you lose your assistant GM to go
(05:38):
take a GM job, and so you have to be
able when things are going well to replace.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Now, that's not exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Here, because there's different reasons contractually whatever why Stefan moved
on and why Gave Davis moved on. And what they've
done is basically say, there's two guys who made up
a lion's share of our targets last year, and we're
going to replace them with some newer guys. Colitch Shakur
has been he's growing. Dalton Kinkaid year two, he's growing.
But you know, with Curtis Samuel and key On Coleman,
(06:05):
we're adding new guys in. I think this is the
perfect time to do that. You have a quarterback who
can win all sorts of ways. He can take over
a game and win with his legs. He's also he's
always distributed the ball. Yeah, Stephan Dick's had a lot
of targets. I think he was third in the league
last two years. It's not a lot of targets, but
Josh has proven to throw a ball anybody. And then
when I said earlier about culture, this Buffalo Bill's culture
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in that locker room and what they have there, this
is the perfect time and it's the perfect culture and
locker room to play three or four different new guys,
whether they're free agents or rookies, and let's let's play,
and let's see who ends up making plays for us
that we can count on to fill in those roles
instead of trying to lose, instead of losing Stephan Digs
trying to replace him with a different person, and then
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losing Gave Davison trying to replace that exact person. Let's
get some young, hungry people who fit with our culture
in our locker room, who can make plays and let
this superstar quarterback direct traffic. And I think the crema
rise at the top in one or two of these
guy going to at the end of the year end
up being We'll sit back and go Yeah, they filled
that role pretty well.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think Keenan Allen not playing does hurt. I think
a veteran wide receiver, possession guy, third down guy is hurting.
Caleb Williams O line hasn't been great. Are you optimistic
that the Bears offense and Caleb will show promise or
growth this year?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I said I think a month ago to you,
I thought it would be a hot start for Caleb,
just because I know the talent level and his understanding
of the game and how he processes it.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it's been a slow start for them.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But honestly, this goes back to the Brice conversation, the
whole conversation around rookies and playing and Tom Brady talked
about it last week and all that, and the reality
is is there's a lot of newness. There's things that
he did in college. He ran around that game in
Houston right ran around and got sacked. I think he
ran around one time.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He threw a pick.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well in those games twelve months ago, he was running
around and that was the highlight reel in the Heisman, right,
he was breaking those tackles. I remember I watched Kyler
Murray his rookie year, Kyle Allen was playing for the Panthers,
got his first start.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
It was at Arizona. Kyle's from Arizona.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I went to the game and Kyle wan he threw
for three hundred yards. But I watched Kyler Murray get
sacked like seven or eight times in that game. And
the reality is is I put like one or two
of those sacks on the whole line. Kyler was trying
to get out of the pocket and make a play
and was running into sacks.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
When you have these.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hyper mobile quarterbacks who had success running around in college
getting the edge making people miss buying time, it doesn't
necessarily translate in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All these guys are fast, all these guys are long.
It's hard to get the edge.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And so I think Caleb's going through a little bit
of this works last year, what is going to work
And so we'll condemn him and say, oh, he's running
around too much. The reality is is, well, you can't
practice that in practice. And so I think Caleb's going
through a phase where there's things he needs to clean up.
There's plays to be made that he's not. There's obviously
positions around him that need to step up. But I
think the main thing with Caleb and other hyper mobile guys,
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and I'm watching Jayden Daniels on this as well, is
you got to learn in games what you could get
away with in college? Can you still get away with
that in the league? And that just takes reps and
it just takes games.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Finally it's again you know these guys. He was a
Southern California kid, CJ. Stroud. Sometimes there's just guys. We
were talking during the break. I don't know if it's
it or feel his anticipation. Some guys hold the ball
just too long and they can never get over it.
(09:27):
They just can't get over it. This kid's anticipation is
insane to me. He's been in the league twelve years.
Are you surprised by what you see with c J. Stroud?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was surprised at how quickly he was playing at
an elite level last year. I won't be surprised of
anything that happens this year. I won't be surprised if
he's the MVP, I won't be surprised if he's in
the super Bowl or wins. I won't be surprised with
anything with him more than I was that how quickly
he was playing at a the elite not good for
(10:00):
a rookie level, but in the elite level, I think
the last month or so of the season, he was arguably.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
The best play in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and so I think what it is is I
had a coach when I was in Chicago. He called
certain throws unconscious throws where you just throw it and
it fits into a window. And by the way, every
starter in the league has these. CJ at a young
age has more unconscious throws where he is ripping it
into a window as if he could care less about
if it's if he should and if it's gonna get broken.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Up or if the guy's gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He just absolutely lets that thing go as if there's
no ramifications. Now, a lot of people have done that,
and they also that leads to a lot of turnovers.
But I think he had the fewest picks last year.
So his combination of letting it rip, trusting his eyes,
trusting what he's seen, trusting what they talked about this
week in practice, and dialed up, letting it go as
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if there's no consequences, and yet he also barely ever
throws interceptions, And I just think it's one of the
more impressive things I've seen in the young player.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Jordan Palmer, you're working with performance, what is that?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, we started a nutrition company for As I mentioned before,
there's just there isn't anything on the market for young
athletes going through puberty. We launched it a month ago,
hot start and very well received. We got three great
products and really that fourteen to twenty two, that age gap.
Parents really struggle up what to give their kids. Kids
aren't really sure what to take, so they take stuff
that's really actually for adults. And we've designed stuff very
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specifically for young athletes and amazing partners and off to
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Speaker 1 (11:28):
Start, played in the NFL. Good business man, great guy
knows this stuff with quarterbacks. We love having him. Good
seeing Jordan Zola's.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Thanks calling you bet.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, the CJ. Stroud stuff. Man, it is just the
ability great co Seal showed is to let go of
the ball when the guy's not open and just trust her.
And by the way, a lot of his targets are
they're young it's not like these are veteran receivers, like
they're young guys. Houston's a young team. Then you add
Joe Mix into it. Now they got the big run game.
It's impressive. Yeah. Rob Lowe's around the corner today Herd
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Speaker 2 (12:30):
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Speaker 5 (12:33):
Got to start with the Saints, Colin We barely talked
about them all off season, and yet here they are
through two weeks. Ninety one points. Just an unbelievable start
to the season. New Orleans also became the third team
in NFL history to score at least thirty points in
the first half in each of their first two games.
But Derek Carr knows that they need to continue to
take things week by week.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Oh it's hard score no that many times at less. Wait,
and obviously you want to continue to do that, and
why keep putting pressure on defenses and things like that.
But to be honest, like I would, I don't. I
don't think that I have. You know, obviously you see
the stats, you see the numbers out there for the
whole offense, and uh, you know what it's been in
history and all that kind of stuff, And it's cool,
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but at the same time, doesn't mean anything this week.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Hard to bet against them the way they've looked and
Philadelphia's inability to win and go vertical without aj Brown.
It's hard to go against the Saints. Yeah, no, I
want to because I think it's a little bit of
a bubble here. You've heard an economic bubble, a little
bit of a football bubble here with the Saints. Hard
to go against them after what I watched on Monday
with the back end of that Eagles defense.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna have to change their offense
without Brown, like they just can't get vertical. And meanwhile,
the Saints ken with Shaheed who's been amazing and Olave.
They got weapons all of a sudden, and I just
got to say, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Only two weeks.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
But Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, if he somehow keeps
this up, he's got a leapfrog past. Ben Johnson is
the number one can.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
There's no question, there is absolutely because Detroit scuffing and
you you hit on it, strike when the iron is hot.
Ben Johnson was the top coordinator, turns stuff down. And
and what's interesting is I watched the Saints last year
and I don't know how much you did, but they
got kind of dink and dunk. So they're a vertical
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team now.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, it was weird because Peyton left with the guy
Pete Carmichael. Voc kept trying to run the Peyton.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Offense and it was like just very pedestrian. Nothing work.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Incomes Kubiak, and it looks dramatically different. It almost looks
like a Shanahan offense, does it not. Kubiak has a
rich lineage. Obviously we know his father. This guy has
starred him written all over, Like I mean, if the
Giants job's open, if the Jets job's open, Dallas Cowboys,
somebody is gonna make a play for this guy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't know if he leaves after.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Just one year, but whether it's Slowick Kubiak like these
guys are going to be in demand, and Ben Johnson
turn things around in Detroit pretty much.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Generally, if you're a hot shot coordinator and you're young,
people want two years. But there it's just it's the
Shanahan offense. It works. It's working with Rock Purty. Derek
carrs never looked this good in his career and I
was a big defender of himn In, you know, with
the Raiders, He's never looked like this.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
All right, next story, Colin, This is a bit of
a crazy story. Dan Campbell in the Lions right awesome
season last year. They come on the doorstep of the
Super Bowl. They turned the franchise around in Detroit, one
of the worst franchises in NFL history.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
We'll get this.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
They lose their game Sunday right to the Bucks, and
a report out of Detroit indicates that Dan Campbell put
his house on the market because his quote is people
figured out where we lived when we lost. People started
bothering Dan Campbell and his family after that Sunday loss,
they put their house on the market and have sold
it and he's moving to a gated g This is
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disgusting and I know this is a big bugaboo years
fan is short for fanatic, and people are freaking out.
But how clueless are these Lions fans, Colin? They have
done nothing for decades. Dan Campbell comes, turns it around
and off one loss to Tampa and you're gonna go
bother the guy in his family to the point that
he's got to move.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This is a little discussed bad bad good. Thank goodness,
Detroit's got some of the best suburbs in the country,
so there's plenty of places to live, plenty of space.
Just embarrassing we're seeing that.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Remember the Giants lose that first game and the fans
were waiting for Daniel Jones in the.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Parking lot to harass him.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Moral Like, I don't know, Colin, is social media changing things?
Like we know you can find out where Dan Campbell
lives in a heartbeat online, but like, why are people
I'm trying to just get to the root of what
the hell these guys are thinking? Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I think social media gives people courage, you know, they
say things they'd never say to their face. I mean,
go to your social media. Have you ever had anybody
come up and be like rude to you?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
One guy remember at that WNBA game, one guy got
on me for the Cam Newton case and all right,
but by.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Of the people in your social media are rude?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Ye?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean I've been doing this thirty years I've had
I mean, I can't even remember the last everybody's overwhelmingly sweet, nice, thoughtful, complimentary.
Literally when I used to watch, what I got, ninety
nine percent was you're the worst guy ever. So, like,
I think people have gotten more courage through social media
and now it's manifesting into more courage physically.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
By the way, Dan Campbell, good luck getting physical with
Dan Campbell. He is huge a former NFL tight end.
These Lions fans, man, just wake up. Final story, Colin
is we talked a lot about Bryce young bench this
week in favor of Andy Dalton. Well, the former number
one picks getting support from a lot of people. Remember
Lebron tweeted about it. Well, another former number one pick
who was under a ton of pressure to perform has
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chimed in, and that's Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Obviously mine didn't happen in the same timeframe with Bryce.
But quarterbacks are especially for young guys when you're not
surrounded with the pieces. A lot of the time, guys
have the talent, they might have the brains, but they
don't have the right opportunity right sit. I mean, I'm
sitting here right now in a way better fit than
the other places I've had. And that's that's not to
put other teams down, but it's a matter of the
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pieces around you, the coaches, and for Bryce, the guy
that you know I can relate to this, finding that
belief within yourself again and.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He'll get it. His story's far far finished. Yeah, quarterback
in this league is way more situational than people think,
way more situational. It's not a shock that Mahomes and
Brady ab dominated the last twenty years, and over the
last twenty years they have the two best coaches. It's
not a shock. I mean it's really funny. You look
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at Aikman, Well, you had a Hall of Fame coach
Dan Fouts, Eric core O, coach Dan Marino, winning his
coach Don Shula, John Elway, A Shanahan. Find me the
great quarterback with a bad coach, Terry Bradshaw, the great
Chuck Nole.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean we also need to give these guys
some patients. Troy Iggan I think started one in fifteen.
Peyton Manning was led the league in interceptions to the
like it happens, but with Young two games into the
second year and they pulled the plug. I don't how
do you bounce back from this?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Mentally? You know we had Jordan Palmer on earlier. We
keep saying, I can't believe Dave Canalis did this. How
do we know it's not the owner? Oh, you think
it's crazy? Jim mersay. Basically, Carson Wentz had twenty seven
touchdown seven picks, the most efficient he ever was. He
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loses to the Jags, or say said get.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Rid of him.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
They had to go get old Philip Rivers and now
at quarterback, we don't know what they have discouraging his
owners are rough. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It is put the NFL schedule up again. I want
to see this thing again. I'm gonna ask you, j Mac.
I just want one big upset now, big upset. We're
not talking yeah, I mean like like like NFL schedule,
will put up. Give me one upset this weekend. Week one,
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we got the Bengals losing to the Patriots, so nobody
guessed that one. Right now, I don't have Oh, don't
go Denver, Broncos.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Give me vot Niggs in Tampa. Now, I just saw
mcglinchy the right tackle. Sounds like he's not gonna play Denver.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's not good.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Now, Bulls's defense is missing Vitave a bunch of dudes.
But Bulls is gonna dial up some blitzes. I'm sure
for Nicks. This will be Knicks's easiest game, though, given
the opponents he's faced in Seattle and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
What's the line? What is the line? Detroit at Arizona three,
Arizona getting three? Yeah? At home?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I I think Detroit bounces back, but I'm not sure,
not positive. By the way, underdogs of I believe it,
six or more are like eight to o or nine
hours against. And there's been no double digit favorites this season.
So the parody is really like a thing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Even the Chiefs Colin thing. Okay, I'll give you my opposite.
Oh great, Atlanta, Atlanta beats the Chiefs outright, yep, what's
out a four and a half point spread? I think
three and a half Atlanta beats the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
It's not the worst pick in the world.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I do have Chiefs tentatively on my card.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I was looking at them and now I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Like, no. I you know, it's so funny when you
when you say stuff in the NFL, you're like, not
gonna half hot take like it happens a lot the game.
I'm really fascinated with. I just Justin Herbert is practicing today.
That's good. Yeah. So I boy, if the if Jim
Harbaugh goes three and oh and Atlanta beats Kansas City,
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so how about Chargers may never be in second place again.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
So if you want to tease the Chargers up because
the Steelers can, they're not capable of blowing people out.
They only play one score game. So you find the Chargers,
tease them up, and then you find a second game
that you like, uh, maybe the Ravens. Do you see
them getting blasted and down as I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
By the way, Justin Herbert's ankle this just came down
is heavily taped per reporters. Now, I would say young
athlete ankles are not knees, so an ankle over the
next he gets to sleep on it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
He's got four you know it's Thursday. He's gonna play Sunday.
He's got four days for a young athlete to heal.
I think he'll be fine. They're not gonna obviously, he's
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not gonna move like he did, so they're gonna depend
on their run game and short passing. But Quinton Williams
look pretty good last week. Just something to think.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
About Johnston, Quinton john Yeah, Johnson touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Guy couldn't catch a cold last year. Now he's done.
I thought he was a bust and now he's not.
All right, Rob Lowe and studio. How about that live
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Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, he made his acting debut at fifteen years old,
actor filmmaker, podcast host He's Got the podcast literally now
second season of the Floor, which is a very sticky.
That's a term people use, a very sticky game show,
and it's premiering Wednesday at nine. He's also a massive
sports fan who I had lunch with last week. So
(24:30):
I'm gonna go fanboy on this. Okay, just right, tolerate
my nonsense for five minutes. He's a great storyteller. So
there are movies that just wear well, and then there's
great movies that don't. When you were making Tommy Boy, okay,
so I think that's just like it's like hangover Tommy Boy.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Jack Lemon had a couple of these in his day,
a couple of comedies that you could watch them today
and you're like this, Mary Tyler Moore is still funny today. Yes,
there are tears. Yes, did you know during tom was
there a moment with you Spade and you're like, oh,
this is going to be huge.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
No, never a moment ever.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
That one, not one.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
I mean, the notion of that movie has become what
it has become, and it is. I mean it. I
have people all walks of life consistently stopped me, same
with Spade, and it just has become a beloved movie.
And we never would have thought ever, I mean we
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thought we were making something that could be good. Never
saw it, never saw it coming. Having the staying power ever.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Now you were Outstanding Lead Actor Emmy nomination for West Wing,
which is one of the great in my opinion, is
one of the seminal last great American television shows. That
Uh Sopranos was HBO. So it's one of the last shows.
It's like I'm watching network. Cheers had this when I
was younger.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
It was the last great network show.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yes, I think Modern Family was damn funny. Yes, it
was Modern Family. Steve levitat the writer that was damn funny.
So when you were on the West Wing, it also
stories I've read it's a lot more than people think.
It's egos writing. Was that enjoyable or was it just successful?
Speaker 7 (26:19):
Here's okay. The way I always put it is, no
one ever wants to hear how hard it was to
be in the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You got all these great actors. Nobody wants nobody.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
They just want to love the show, which is great.
It happened to be a very complicated set for any
number of reasons, but the work was always so amazing
and we all knew how grateful we were. We were
all very grateful to be on it. So we were
under no illusion. That's when we knew we were making
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something great. We knew we were making something great. Meanwhile,
that thing of you never want to hear how they
make the sausage, right, that wasn't very pretty. But but
but the outcome, I mean is one of the things.
It's probably the thing I'm most proud of. Still.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Now you knew the Austin Power stuff because Mike Myers
was red hot, He's brilliant. You knew that was going
to be big.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I I did the studio, didn't. I mean, think about all.
I think, just go back. I know it's almost impossible
because of what that movie became and what it was,
But like, here's the pitch. So it's a it's a
James Bond parody of a of a guy with bad
teeth with a Cockney accent, and then there's a ball
guy named doctor. People are like what, But we all
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knew it would work on the set.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yes, just funny.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Oh, I will never forget being there when he was
ad libbing as Doctor Evil to little Vern Treuer that
looks like a baby in me, I'd like to eat
that baby.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I mean, you just die right, you knew it was big? Yeah,
so you you know it's you had a you know,
like a lot of young stars in Los Angeles. You know,
it is impossible not to dabble in the crazy side
of life, but you actually are a doting dad husband
(28:18):
it is. Do you ever think if you, I mean
you had the self awareness to get it right?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Yeah, I've been sober thirty four years.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, what got you? There was there an epiphany, a moment,
a party?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, oh really?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
And what's interesting about they call them? You know, when
you hit your bottom right, and everybody has a different bottom.
Some are really really you know, they're in jail. They
some of them are really bad. Mind what wasn't all
that bad? But it was enough for me to go,
you know what, this is untenable. I'm never gonna have
the kind of life I dream about. I'm never going
to be able to make it work.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
With one woman.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
And it was just as simple as my beloved grandfather
had had a heart attack and my mom was calling
me in the days of answering machines, and I could
hear her on the answering machine saying pick up, pick up,
pick up, but I was in no shape to do it,
so I didn't pick up. And I just hated that
about myself and I went into the bathroom. I looked
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myself in the mirror like a bat. It was like
a bad movie. It was like an after school special.
I literally went in and looked at myself in the
mirror and was like, this has got to end. And
made a phone call, went to rehab, which I loved.
I treated like training camp, training camp for life. Loved it.
And that was thirty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Good for you, thanks for sharing that. Speaking of you
said bottom and when you said that, I thought floor
and you you are on this is fascinating. So you
did a game show and people think, oh, Rob Win
around the corner. No, you actually went to Dublin tell
people about this show is hot and sticky.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
Yeah, it's amazing. How how embraced this thing.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Basically, you're send everybody that Ireland.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
This show's become a phenomenon. I never saw that talking
about not seeing it coming.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I knew this.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
The game was great, super addicting. I knew people liked it,
but you never know if it's going to pop off
like it has and what's so interesting is is we
shoot it in Ireland and we go to Ireland because
it makes financial sense to do it. But it's just
one of the great sort of inside Hollywood stories that
that that's that's where we do it is just kind
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of like, like what.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Really and you shoot a season very quickly.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
We can shoot a season in ten days. It's a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Take your golf clubs. It sure did because you're a
great golfer.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
How about this I got I got off the an
international flight, went right to a run through, went to
the hotel, just pulled out my golf clothes. There was
a course right next to the hotel, and went and
shot tied my career best shot, a seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You're jut legged like.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It's great for the golf swing.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That slows it down. You're on a short list of
the best celebrity golfers. You just want a tournament, didn't Gerald?
Didn't you? I did?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
They can't take it away from me at riv I
won a golf tournament. A riff now it was it
was my son John Owen, Michael Crabtree. Yeah, she's an athlete.
And then okay, I'm gonna what is this amazing actress's
name is a great golfer. Newton is her last name.
I'll think of her first name. But she's a stick.
We basically won because she was such a stick, but
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still a win's win. I'm taking it.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, you're a huge, You're a big We talked about
this at lunch. You're a big baseball fan. Love baseball,
you love Did you play it?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I did?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I played it up until coaches started saying you missed
practice for your auditions and they kicked me off the team.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, Walker Bueller just went to practice. You had audition, Walker.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Bueler went to practice. I had auditions. I could have
been Walker Bueler.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You were on NBA commercials years and years and years ago.
NBA is fant Yes, it's hard to explain to people
because people think Los Angeles it's the beach. They don't
care about sports.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
The Lakers, when they're hot, will always be number one
in the city, not the NFL, not the Dodgers. Take
people back. It's it's incredible to the magic Johnson. I mean,
they're making movies about it. Take them back to that.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
I don't even know where to begin. I mean, what
what magic meant to this town. When he arrived here,
it was like Santa Claus had arrived. And then he
lived up to it. What he did in that game
six in Philadelphia, where he played all five.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Positions forty two point seventeen boards, he played center, basically.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Center in his rookie year. You you just can't believe.
And then, of course the style of play which has
now you know, been you know, every other team has
adapted that run and gun was not a thing.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's right, it was, It didn't. It's amazing. There are athletes, infrequent,
but athletes. If you go back and look at Magic's
rookie year, second year rob like most of that stuff,
like Jim Brown, people say could play today. Magic would
still be today if you look at it. Usually things
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don't age well. Best player in the league, I said,
Michael and Magic are much closer. Michael got the nine finals.
No no, no, Magic did Michael got the six. The
Blackhawks are in the Western Conference in hockey. If the
Bulls were in the Western Conference, Michael goes to a
final or two and loses to Bird or Isaiah, and
we get over this six for sixty. Magic was in
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the finals nine times and retired early.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Yes, he could have played as long as he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Have You ever been to an event with Magic in
La When Magic enters Staples, they stand.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Yes, they do to this day. They do it all
over the world. I've seen him in Europe and I mean,
first of all, he can't hide. There's no one who
looks like him. Everybody knows what he looks like. Smile,
big smile, smile the energy. I mean. My two guys
growing up were Magic and Sugar Ray Leonard. Oh yeah,
those are the guys I never bet against. They were
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the classiest, best in class. And to have had floor
seats for that run and even into Shaq and Kobe,
We'll never see anything like it again.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Has there ever been a sports movie you wanted to
be in or you were offered and didn't. Do you
have a favorite sports movie?
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Well, what I'm what I want to do is I
want to remake the all time greatest sports movie. I'm
too old for it now Brian's song.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Oh God, I cry. I watched that as a kid.
We all cried to it.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
Okay, this is my philosophy. Is you ask any boomer male?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It was the first sports movie. It was the first
movie we cried to right, I'm not crazy. No, Brian's
song is, in fact, I not joking. I looked it
up on YouTube a month ago. I was sitting there
getting nostalgic. But these guys are looking at me. They're
all on their third You have no idea what Brian
song is.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
For all listeners' viewers out there, find it. I think
it's on YouTube. Yes, it is James Kahn and the Peak,
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By the way, this is a man who makes his
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I mean, I like Hoosiers, but I didn't cry the
natural I liked it. Miracle I think is great. Yes, Miracle,
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two premiere on septemb Number twenty fifth here on Fox,
and uh, what a pleasure to see again. Man.
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