September 19, 2024 • 28 mins
Colin shares some interesting stats about Aaron Rodgers and why this could be bad news for the Jets. He tells you who the most underrated player in the NFL is right now. Actor Rob Lowe joins the show in studio to talk about his legendary career in Hollywood and being a devoted sports fan in LA
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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But it's interesting tonight. So you and I love betting
the NFL. And in college you see touchdown fourteen point
you know, I mean Obama was a sixteen point favorite
over Wisconsin. In Wisconsin it's longsided. There's like eight programs,
maybe ten, just better players, you know, the your Ohio states,
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in your Texas, Georgia. But in the NFL the Bears
were only a six point underdog to the Texans, and
we think the Texans are the best team in their
division and could challenge for the AFC championship. We think
the Bears may be a fourth place team. So a
six point spread in the NFL is a big deal. Tonight,
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the Jets are a six point favored against New England.
New England doesn't beat themselves, one of only three teams
in the NFL with no turnovers, and the Jets offense
is twentieth in the NFL in yards per play. They're
not moving the ball, so it's amazing to me. It's
like when you see lines that are six. I mean Atlanta.
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Everybody thought Atlanta was going to go to Philadelphia and
get housed in Philadelphia, and it was like, what a
five point spread? Five and a half points spread. The
NFL odds makers are thinking tonight is a blowout in
the Jets favor But Tennessee beat themselves as much as
the Jets did. Will Levis is in the Bad Judgment
Hall of Fame. They had a punt block to turnovers.
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You're not going to get any of that from New
England tonight. And to me, one of the things I'm
trying to figure out in the first two or three
weeks of the NFL is what's real and what's hype?
And to this point, we have to be honest. Aaron
and the Jets are a lot of hype. Three weeks
ago it was Super Bowl talk. It's nonsense. They're twentieth
in yards for play, twenty seventh in total offense, and
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it's Nat Hackett running the show. But I went even
deeper on this because you know, San Francisco is an opener.
Is tough. Aaron Rodgers was viewed as a savior. No,
he's talented, no doubt, but how talented in his last
twenty starts and it's overwhelmingly Green Bay starts. And when
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he was starting his last couple of years in Green Bay,
Detroit was twenty ninth in the NFL in defense, Minnesota
was thirtieth in Chicago was last his last year in
Green Bay. So he got multiple starts from the worst
defenses in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers did forget to win
loss record. He had a ninety one passer rating that
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is closer to the quarterback he will face tonight, Jacoby
Brissett than the elite guys in the league. I mean
Lamar Jackson gets criticized for pocket passing. He's one O
two and he can run. Aaron's forty doesn't run. He's
solely a pocket guy, and he's he's slightly better than
Jacoby Brissett as a pocket guy. And they're a six
point favorite tonight. And one of the things I've always
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loved about the NFL, it's not a nostalgia league. Yesterday,
I'm driving around. They turned on a radio show on
Sirius Exam and they're talking of baseball in the sixties,
and like nobody you never turn on a football show,
and it's like, let's talk about Hugh mclhaney. Anybody want
to take a call on Otto Graham. Football is a
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now sport. It's not even Hollywood. They don't give out
lifetime Achievement awards while you're still playing. They do that
in Hollywood while you're still acting. So right now, Aaron's
immobile expensive, he doesn't have a rushing yard this season,
and fifty four dropbacks, and he's coming off an injury,
so he's not quite totally in unison with the left
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side of the offensive line. You know, he's throwing with
a little lack of trust right now. So like tonight's
game is gigantic. If they lose tonight and Atlanta just
went to Philadelphia and won as a similar dog. If
they lose tonight, in two weeks they face high flying Minnesota,
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three weeks they face Buffalo. I think this game is gigantic,
and there's just this sense that, well, this is a given.
Tonight Joe watch Nuah. New England beat Cincinnati. New England
took undefended Seattle overtime, and the Jets are a six
point favorite. It's crazy. I mean I it's I usually
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the market's never fooled. This line is so big to me.
It's as if there is something the draft kings of
the world see that I can't but look around. Last week,
the first week of the NFL season, there was only
one touchdown or more favorite. It was Cincinnati over New England.
Monday Night was one of the more lop sided Sunday
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Night Bears Texans Bears fought to the end. Monday Night
Falcons he goes. Those were like big NFL margins. Jets.
Th Under, a six point favorite for a quarterback in
his last twenty starts, has a ninety one passer rating.
Here's Aaron on Tonight's.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Been a long time since took the field at Jetlife,
so be a lot of emotions, for sure. Body feels
good so well as good as a can on a
short week. But think it'd be fun out there with
the crowd night games. I love night games, so excited
about it. Not you know, no one's real crazy about
Thursday games, but everybody loves Thursday. The weekend after the Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Games, all right, I guess I'll take the Jets to Night.
The betting market is telling me it's got a chance
to be a blowout. Every number I'm looking at doesn't
tell me that, but I have to take the Jets
to win. So the most interesting game of the weekend,
and I love when this happens. It's the Ravens and Cowboys,
and not just because it's the Cowboys. The Cowboys getting
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housed at home by the Saints has made this game fascinating.
If Dallas was two and oh, it wouldn't feel the
same way. But Dallas with the coach in the hot seat,
is now one in one coming off a blowout loss
again at home like the Packers. But the fascinating part
of this is I love when you get two quarterbacks
who we argue and debate over, and we do with
Lamar and Dak, and they're on the same field. One's in,
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one's out, on's in ones out. That's when you can
really compare them. You know a lot of times, you know,
I like this guy, but he plays an easy opponent.
I don't like this guy, but he plays a hard
They're playing each other, both with better than average defenses.
And what's interesting is Lamar, though he's elite, is probably
the only really great quarterback in this league that's constantly criticized.
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And Dak, whose B to B plus has been elevated
by everybody. He's currently the highest paid football player in
the history of the league. Dak Prescott is is viewed
as elite. And so what's interesting is Lamar Jackson against
teams like the Cowboys NFC teams is twenty and one.
Twenty and one. Dak against that conference also as a
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winning record, but forty percent of Dak's wins against the
weaker NFC have come against the Giants in Washington, where
he's twenty three and four. Dak has feasted on totally
dysfunctional teams. Now, they do have similarities. They Both have
winning records, especially in the regular season. Both have struggled
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in the playoffs. Both have won their division multiple times.
Both are highly compensated, Both have Super Bowl winning head coaches.
Both play for very prominent NFL franchises. But your eyes
will tell you, in my opinion Sunday, who's better. And
here's the distinction between the two, because you can tell
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me Dak's this and Lamar's only that. Here's the distinction.
Lamar Jackson in a better conference certainly better at the
top Mahomes Josh Allen Burrow now CJ. Sroud. Lamar Jackson
is nineteen and fourteen against we would acknowledge playoff teams.
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Lamar against playoff teams in his career in the better
conference with better quarterbacks as nineteen and fourteen. Dak against
playoff teams in his career in a weaker conference is
eighteen and twenty seven. That is the difference. There's a
lot of similarities with these two, and Dak is more
respected in love by fans than Lamar is. The difference
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is Lamar beats really good teams in a better conference
and Dak can't beat really good teams in an inferior conference.
Lamar is more consistently great than Dak, especially when you
play the big boys. Here's John Harbaugh on Sunday's matchup
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and his offense as a whole.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You want to be known for something. What are you
good at? What do they need to stop? What are
they saying that they have to defend against you for
your offense. At the same time, you don't want to
line up and know what you're doing every single play.
We lead the league in yards, but the points have
to come with it, and that's we've got to chase.
We were in that situation last year at one point
in time too, if you remember early in the season.
So that's something that we have got to translate the
yards and points, and to me, it turn it comes
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back your consistency.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They lead the league in yards as Baltimore, and they
open with one of the top three defenses in the league,
the Kansas City Chiefs. In Kansas City, I like Baltimore,
but more than anything, I'm fascinated to watch the two quarterbacks,
one who's elite who gets very little love from fans,
and one who's very good who is now the highest
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paid player in the history of this sport. J Mack
I have Greg Cosel forty five minutes from now. Wide
receivers make a lot of noise. There're always been the
basketball players of football. They break the huddle first. It's
sort of they don't rely on anybody else necessarily utteran quarterback,
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get the ball close, and they make a lot of
noise in the offseason. Jabar Chase Brandon I a lot
of noise. I'm going to I'm going to tell you
the most valuable not only a receiver in the league.
He maybe the most valuable player in the league that's
not a quarterback. You will not believe what I'm going
to tell you next. Will No, I don't want you
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to guess will You will not believe it. I was
shocked today. The most valuable player in this league that's
not a quarterback. You won't believe it. Wide receiver, you
won't believe it. That's next.
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Speaker 1 (11:32):
Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates None of the bull So.
I always thought the most valuable non quarterback in the
NFL was Christian McCaffrey. I mean, Kyle Shanahan is regarded
not only as a great coach, but his system now
is working virtually everywhere. The Saints now the surprise team
of the NFL, use his system. Miami last year use
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his system. He has a losing record without Christian McCaffrey.
But I may have found somebody that's even more valuable.
And for years and years I called wide receivers. Icing
on the cake. You can eat cake without icing. It
can make good very good. But if the cake is bad,
the icing can't save it right, like you know, even
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with carrot cake, and that's the best icing. But look
at these numbers. AJ Brown's impact on Jalen Hurts's career,
including the playoffs. When AJ Brown is connected and playing
with Jalen Hurts, he is Patrick Mahomes. He's twenty eight
and eight. He'll get to Super Bowls. When AJ Brown's
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not there, he is slightly better than Justin Field's with
the same passer rating. It's insane. Basically, Jalen Hurts wins
like Mahomes with AJ Brown. Remember AJ Brown as a
rookie went to Tennessee. There were number one seed thousand
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yards rookie he left. They've never been the same franchise.
They've never been the same franchise. Philadelphia scores twenty eight
points when AJ Brown's on the field, fifteen when he's not. Again,
that's the Justin Fields Bears, and a lot of these
wide receivers make noise to Fawn Diggs does Bills look
just fine without him? Justin Jefferson Vikings are five and
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two when he doesn't play Sunday Sam Darnold without him,
Jordan Addison or TJ. Hawkinson game clinching drive. The Chiefs
have won two Super Bowls without Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen,
Mike Williams leave the Chargers, They're two to zero. They're
just fine. AJ Brown doesn't play in Philadelphia their last
year's Bears. That's insane. And we all like Jalen Hurts.
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I'm not saying he and Justin Field are the same,
just the numbers are, the passer ratings are the same.
I mean, think about Week one, Brandon Noy, you just
got this massive contract. Week one, the rolled supposedly a
good defense with the Jets. Ayuk his most notable moment
he dropped the touchdown pass. He had no connection to
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the outcome, no impact on San Francisco's scoring. None had
two catches. So it's just like I think, you know,
we talk overrated, underrated. We've always known TJ. Watt is
really important for the Steelers defense. We all know that.
We know McCaffrey's incredibly valuable, and we also know starting
quarterbacks are There's an argument AJ Brown is the most
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valuable the Titans. It's not just what he's delivered in Philly.
The Titans have been a disaster offensively since he left.
Cannot figure it out. They've changed coaches, got Mike Rabel fired,
They've changed everything, quarterbacks, coaches, It's all connected to AJ Brown.
Remember what Mike, Remember how Mike Rabel reacted when they
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let go Remember that when they let go of AJ Brown.
Frable's not a guy. He goes to the podium, big
tough guy, doesn't get real emotional when they let go
of AJ Brown. I mean Mike Brable basically came to
the podium and just he's like it was like losing
Brady in New England. Mike Rabel was like, Yeah, this
isn't very good. Isn't that crazy? Jalen Hurt's entire career
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without aj Brown connected to it, He's it eighty four
passer rating. He throws for one hundred and forty eight
yards a game. He's twelve twenty and one, and Jalen
Hurts is good. He's good.
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Well. He made his acting debut at fifteen years old. Actor, filmmaker,
podcast host It's Got the podcast literally now second season
of the Floor, which is a very sticky that's a
term people use, a very sticky game show, and it's
premiering Wednesday at nine. He's also a massive sports fan
who I had lunch with last week, So I'm gonna
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go fanboy on this. Okay, just tolerate my nonsense for
five minutes. He's a great storyteller. So there are movies
that just wear well and then there's great movies that don't.
When you were making Tommy Boy, Okay, So I think
that's just like it's like hangover, Tommy Boy.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Jack Lemon had a couple of these in his day,
a couple of comedies that you could watch them today
and you're like, this, Mary Tyler Moore is still funny today. Yes,
there are tears two cheers.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Did you know during tom was there a moment with
you Spade and you're like, oh, this is gonna be huge.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
No, never a moment ever, not one, not one.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I mean, the notion of that movie has become what
it has become, and it is I mean it. I
have people all walks of life consistently.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Least stopped me.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Same with Spade, and it just has become a beloved movie.
And we never would have thought ever, I mean, we
thought we were making something that could be good. Never
saw it, never saw it coming having the staying power ever.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now you were Outstanding Lead Actor Emmy nomination for West Wing,
which is one of the great in my opinion, is
one of the seminal last great American television shows. That
Sopranos was HBO, So it's one of the last shows.
It's like I'm watching network. Cheers had this when I
was younger.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
It was the last great network show.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, I think Modern Family was damn funny. Yes, it
was Modern Family. Steve leavittat the writer, That was damn funny.
So when you were on the West Wing, it also
stories I've read it's a lot more than people think.
It's egos writing. Was that enjoyable or was it just successful?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Here's okay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
The way I always put it is, no one ever
wants to hear how hard it was to be in
the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You had all these great actors. Nobody wants to hear. Nobody.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
They just want to love the show, which is great.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
It happened to be a very complicated set for any
number of reasons, but the work was always so amazing,
and we all knew how grateful we were.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
We were all very grateful to be on it.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
So we were under no illusion. That's when we knew
we were making something great. We knew we were making
something great. Meanwhile, the thing of you never want to
hear how they make the sausage, right, that wasn't very pretty.
But the outcome, I mean is one of the things
is probably the thing I'm most proud of.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Still.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now, you knew the Austin Power stuff because Mike Myers
was red hot. He is brilliant. You knew that was
going to be big.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
I did the studio, didn't. I mean, think about all
I think, just go back. I know it's almost impossible
because of what that move he became what it was.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
But like, here's the pitch. So it's a it's a.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
James Bond parody of a of a guy with bad
teeth with a Cockney accent, and then there's a ball
guy named doctor. People are like, what, but we all
knew it would work on the set.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yes, just funny. Oh.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I will never forget being there when he was ad
libbing as Doctor Evil to little Verne Treuer.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That looks like a baby in me. I'd like to
eat that baby.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, you just die right. You knew it was big. Yeah,
so you you know it's you had a you know,
like a lot of young stars in Los Angeles, you know,
it is impossible not to dabble in the crazy side
of life. But you actually are a doting dad husband.
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Uh it is. Do you ever think if you, I mean,
you had the self awareness to get it right.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Yeah, I've been sober thirty four years Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What got you?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Was there? An epiphany, a moment, a party?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yes, oh really?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
And what's interesting about they call them? You know when
you hit your bottom right, and everybody has a different bottom.
Some are really really you know, they're in jail. They
some of them are really bad. Mine what wasn't all
that bad, but it was enough for me to go,
you know what, this is untenable. I'm never gonna have
the kind of life I dream about. I'm never going
to be able to make it work with one woman.
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And it was just as simple as my beloved grandfather
had had a heart attack and my mom was calling
me in the days of answering machines, and I could
hear her on the answering machine saying pick up, pick up,
pick up. But I was in no shape to do it,
so I didn't pick up. And I just hated that
about myself and I went into the bathroom. I looked
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myself in the mirror.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Like a bat.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
It was like a bad movie. It was like an
after school special. I literally went in and looked at
myself in the mirror and I was like, this is
this has got to end? And made a phone call
went to rehab, which I loved. I treated like training camp,
training camp for life.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Loved it. And that was thirty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Good for you, thanks for sharing that. Speaking of you
said bottom and when you said that, I thought floor
and you you are on This is fascinating. So you
did a game show and people think, oh, Rob went
around the corner. No, you actually went to dublind tell
people about this show is hot and sticky.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, it's amazing. How how embraced this this.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Thing basically that you said, everybody that Ireland.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
This show has become a phenomenon. I never saw that
talking about not seeing it coming. I knew this the
game was great, super addicting. I knew people liked it,
but you never know if it's going to pop off
like it has. And what's so interesting is is we
shoot it in Ireland, and we go to Ireland because
it makes financial sense to do it. But it's just
one of the great sort of inside Hollywood stories that
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that that's that's where we do it.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
It is just kind of like like.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What really, And you shoot a season very quickly.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
We can shoot a season in ten days. It's a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Take your golf clubs. It sure did, because you're a
great golfer.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
How about this I got I got off the an
international flight, went right to a run through, went to
the hotel, just pulled out my golf clothes. There was
a course right next to the hotel, and went and
shot tied my career best shot, a seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You're jet legged.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Jet leg's great for the golf swing.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That slows it down. You're on a short list of
the best celebrity golfers. You just want a tournament, didn't gerald?
Didn't you?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
I did?
Speaker 8 (23:45):
They can't take it away from me at riv I
won a golf tournament. Riff, now it was it was
my son, John Owen, Michael Crabtree. Yeah, he's an athlete.
And then, okay, I'm gonna what is this amazing actress's
name is a great golfer.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Newton is last name. I'll think of her first name.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
But she's a stick. We basically won because she was
such a stick. But still a win's win.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
I'm taking it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah. You're a huge You're a big We talked about
this at lunch. You're a big baseball fan. Baseball you
love Did you play it?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
I did?
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I played it up until coaches started saying you missed
practice for your auditions, and they kicked me off the team.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, Walker Bueller just went to practice. You had audition.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Walker Bueller went to practice. I had auditions. I could
have been Walker Buehler.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You were on NBA commercials years and years and years ago.
NBA is fantastic. It's hard to explain to people because
people think Los Angeles it's the beat. They don't care
about sports. The Lakers when they're hot, will always be
number one in the city, not the NFL, not the Dodgers.
Take people back. It's it's incredible to the magic Johnson.
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I mean, they're making movies about it. Take them back
to that.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
I don't don't even know where to begin. I mean,
what what magic meant to this town? When he arrived here,
it was like Santa Claus had arrived. And then he
lived up to it. What he did in that Game
six in Philadelphia, where he played all five positions.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Forty two point seventeen boards, he played center, basically center.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
In his rookie year. You you just can't believe.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
And then, of course the style of play which has
now you know, been you know, every other team has
adapted that run and gun was.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Not a thing.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's right, it was.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
It did not exist.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Amazing. There are athletes, infrequent, but athletes. If you go
back and look at Magic's rookie year, second year rob
like most of that stuff, like Jim Brown, people say
could play today. Yeah, Magic would still be today if
you look at it. Usually things don't age well. Bee,
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the bit bad, best player in the league, said, Michael
and Magic are much closer. Michael got the nine finals. No, no, no,
Magic did. Michael got the six. The Blackhawks are in
the Western Conference in hockey. If the Bulls were in
the Western Conference, Michael goes to a final or two
and loses to Bird or Isaiah, and we get over
this six for sixty. Magic was in the finals nine
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times and retired early.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yes, he could have played as long as he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I have you ever been to an event with Magic?
In LA When Magic enters Staples, they stand.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Yes, they do to this day. They do it all
over the world.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
I've seen him in Europe, and I mean, first of all,
he can't hide.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
There's no one who looks like him. Everybody knows what
he looks like.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Smile, big smick, smile, the energy. I mean my two
guys growing up, we were Magic and Sugar Ray Leonard. Yeah,
those are the guys I never bet against. They were
the classiest, best in class and did to have had
floor seats for that run and even into Shaq and Kobe.
We'll never see anything like it again.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Has there ever been a sports movie you wanted to
be in or you were offered and didn't. Do you
have a favorite sports movie or what.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I'm What I want to do is I want to
remake the all time greatest sports movie. I'm too old
for it now. Brian's song, Oh God, I cry.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I watched that as a kid. We all cried to it.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Okay, this is my philosophy. Is you ask any boomer male?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It was the first sports movie. It was the first
movie we cried to.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Right, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, Brian's song is in fact, I not joking. I
looked it up on YouTube a month ago. I was
sitting there getting nostalgic. These guys are looking at me.
They're all on their third You have no idea what
Brian song is.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
For all listeners viewers out there, find it. I think
it's on YouTube. Y it is James Cohn and the Peak,
Billy d.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Will Williams, Gail Sailors, Brian Piccolo.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
It's Gail Sayers, Brian Piccolo, Chicago Bears it is. It's
by far, hands down, not close, the best sports movie
ever made.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm not arguing a month ago I looked it up.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
By the way, this is a man who makes his
living being a contrarian, and he is not arguing that is.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
I'm glad. I feel like I've accomplished something here.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, I like Hoosiers, but I didn't cry. The
Natural I liked it. Miracle I think is great. Yes, Miracle,
you got one, Rudy, They're all good. None of them
made me cry. That's not that's you know. Okay, you've
aged well. Robin Actor, filmmaker podcast host The Floor Season
(28:36):
two premiere on September twenty fifth, here on Fox and
what a pleasure see again, man.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Yes, I love coming here and talk at sports. You
It's just the best.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
One of the great lunches of all time. My wife's
rarely jealous of me. I mentioned multiple times. Gets who
had lunch today was shut up? Yeah, Rob Low, We'll
do it again and more.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Lunch is to come the hurt,
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Greg Cosel one hour, you play fantasy football, bet football,
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(00:49):
But it's interesting tonight. So you and I love betting
the NFL. And in college you see touchdown fourteen point
you know, I mean Obama was a sixteen point favorite
over Wisconsin. In Wisconsin it's longsided. There's like eight programs,
maybe ten, just better players, you know, the your Ohio states,
(01:09):
in your Texas, Georgia. But in the NFL the Bears
were only a six point underdog to the Texans, and
we think the Texans are the best team in their
division and could challenge for the AFC championship. We think
the Bears may be a fourth place team. So a
six point spread in the NFL is a big deal. Tonight,
(01:34):
the Jets are a six point favored against New England.
New England doesn't beat themselves, one of only three teams
in the NFL with no turnovers, and the Jets offense
is twentieth in the NFL in yards per play. They're
not moving the ball, so it's amazing to me. It's
like when you see lines that are six. I mean Atlanta.
(01:58):
Everybody thought Atlanta was going to go to Philadelphia and
get housed in Philadelphia, and it was like, what a
five point spread? Five and a half points spread. The
NFL odds makers are thinking tonight is a blowout in
the Jets favor But Tennessee beat themselves as much as
the Jets did. Will Levis is in the Bad Judgment
Hall of Fame. They had a punt block to turnovers.
(02:20):
You're not going to get any of that from New
England tonight. And to me, one of the things I'm
trying to figure out in the first two or three
weeks of the NFL is what's real and what's hype?
And to this point, we have to be honest. Aaron
and the Jets are a lot of hype. Three weeks
ago it was Super Bowl talk. It's nonsense. They're twentieth
in yards for play, twenty seventh in total offense, and
(02:43):
it's Nat Hackett running the show. But I went even
deeper on this because you know, San Francisco is an opener.
Is tough. Aaron Rodgers was viewed as a savior. No,
he's talented, no doubt, but how talented in his last
twenty starts and it's overwhelmingly Green Bay starts. And when
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he was starting his last couple of years in Green Bay,
Detroit was twenty ninth in the NFL in defense, Minnesota
was thirtieth in Chicago was last his last year in
Green Bay. So he got multiple starts from the worst
defenses in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers did forget to win
loss record. He had a ninety one passer rating that
(03:25):
is closer to the quarterback he will face tonight, Jacoby
Brissett than the elite guys in the league. I mean
Lamar Jackson gets criticized for pocket passing. He's one O
two and he can run. Aaron's forty doesn't run. He's
solely a pocket guy, and he's he's slightly better than
Jacoby Brissett as a pocket guy. And they're a six
point favorite tonight. And one of the things I've always
(03:48):
loved about the NFL, it's not a nostalgia league. Yesterday,
I'm driving around. They turned on a radio show on
Sirius Exam and they're talking of baseball in the sixties,
and like nobody you never turn on a football show,
and it's like, let's talk about Hugh mclhaney. Anybody want
to take a call on Otto Graham. Football is a
(04:08):
now sport. It's not even Hollywood. They don't give out
lifetime Achievement awards while you're still playing. They do that
in Hollywood while you're still acting. So right now, Aaron's
immobile expensive, he doesn't have a rushing yard this season,
and fifty four dropbacks, and he's coming off an injury,
so he's not quite totally in unison with the left
(04:29):
side of the offensive line. You know, he's throwing with
a little lack of trust right now. So like tonight's
game is gigantic. If they lose tonight and Atlanta just
went to Philadelphia and won as a similar dog. If
they lose tonight, in two weeks they face high flying Minnesota,
(04:49):
three weeks they face Buffalo. I think this game is gigantic,
and there's just this sense that, well, this is a given.
Tonight Joe watch Nuah. New England beat Cincinnati. New England
took undefended Seattle overtime, and the Jets are a six
point favorite. It's crazy. I mean I it's I usually
(05:16):
the market's never fooled. This line is so big to me.
It's as if there is something the draft kings of
the world see that I can't but look around. Last week,
the first week of the NFL season, there was only
one touchdown or more favorite. It was Cincinnati over New England.
Monday Night was one of the more lop sided Sunday
(05:37):
Night Bears Texans Bears fought to the end. Monday Night
Falcons he goes. Those were like big NFL margins. Jets.
Th Under, a six point favorite for a quarterback in
his last twenty starts, has a ninety one passer rating.
Here's Aaron on Tonight's.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Been a long time since took the field at Jetlife,
so be a lot of emotions, for sure. Body feels
good so well as good as a can on a
short week. But think it'd be fun out there with
the crowd night games. I love night games, so excited
about it. Not you know, no one's real crazy about
Thursday games, but everybody loves Thursday. The weekend after the Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Games, all right, I guess I'll take the Jets to Night.
The betting market is telling me it's got a chance
to be a blowout. Every number I'm looking at doesn't
tell me that, but I have to take the Jets
to win. So the most interesting game of the weekend,
and I love when this happens. It's the Ravens and Cowboys,
and not just because it's the Cowboys. The Cowboys getting
(06:41):
housed at home by the Saints has made this game fascinating.
If Dallas was two and oh, it wouldn't feel the
same way. But Dallas with the coach in the hot seat,
is now one in one coming off a blowout loss
again at home like the Packers. But the fascinating part
of this is I love when you get two quarterbacks
who we argue and debate over, and we do with
Lamar and Dak, and they're on the same field. One's in,
(07:04):
one's out, on's in ones out. That's when you can
really compare them. You know a lot of times, you know,
I like this guy, but he plays an easy opponent.
I don't like this guy, but he plays a hard
They're playing each other, both with better than average defenses.
And what's interesting is Lamar, though he's elite, is probably
the only really great quarterback in this league that's constantly criticized.
(07:27):
And Dak, whose B to B plus has been elevated
by everybody. He's currently the highest paid football player in
the history of the league. Dak Prescott is is viewed
as elite. And so what's interesting is Lamar Jackson against
teams like the Cowboys NFC teams is twenty and one.
Twenty and one. Dak against that conference also as a
(07:51):
winning record, but forty percent of Dak's wins against the
weaker NFC have come against the Giants in Washington, where
he's twenty three and four. Dak has feasted on totally
dysfunctional teams. Now, they do have similarities. They Both have
winning records, especially in the regular season. Both have struggled
(08:12):
in the playoffs. Both have won their division multiple times.
Both are highly compensated, Both have Super Bowl winning head coaches.
Both play for very prominent NFL franchises. But your eyes
will tell you, in my opinion Sunday, who's better. And
here's the distinction between the two, because you can tell
(08:35):
me Dak's this and Lamar's only that. Here's the distinction.
Lamar Jackson in a better conference certainly better at the
top Mahomes Josh Allen Burrow now CJ. Sroud. Lamar Jackson
is nineteen and fourteen against we would acknowledge playoff teams.
(08:58):
Lamar against playoff teams in his career in the better
conference with better quarterbacks as nineteen and fourteen. Dak against
playoff teams in his career in a weaker conference is
eighteen and twenty seven. That is the difference. There's a
lot of similarities with these two, and Dak is more
respected in love by fans than Lamar is. The difference
(09:19):
is Lamar beats really good teams in a better conference
and Dak can't beat really good teams in an inferior conference.
Lamar is more consistently great than Dak, especially when you
play the big boys. Here's John Harbaugh on Sunday's matchup
(09:41):
and his offense as a whole.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You want to be known for something. What are you
good at? What do they need to stop? What are
they saying that they have to defend against you for
your offense. At the same time, you don't want to
line up and know what you're doing every single play.
We lead the league in yards, but the points have
to come with it, and that's we've got to chase.
We were in that situation last year at one point
in time too, if you remember early in the season.
So that's something that we have got to translate the
yards and points, and to me, it turn it comes
(10:04):
back your consistency.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
They lead the league in yards as Baltimore, and they
open with one of the top three defenses in the league,
the Kansas City Chiefs. In Kansas City, I like Baltimore,
but more than anything, I'm fascinated to watch the two quarterbacks,
one who's elite who gets very little love from fans,
and one who's very good who is now the highest
(10:27):
paid player in the history of this sport. J Mack
I have Greg Cosel forty five minutes from now. Wide
receivers make a lot of noise. There're always been the
basketball players of football. They break the huddle first. It's
sort of they don't rely on anybody else necessarily utteran quarterback,
(10:47):
get the ball close, and they make a lot of
noise in the offseason. Jabar Chase Brandon I a lot
of noise. I'm going to I'm going to tell you
the most valuable not only a receiver in the league.
He maybe the most valuable player in the league that's
not a quarterback. You will not believe what I'm going
to tell you next. Will No, I don't want you
(11:08):
to guess will You will not believe it. I was
shocked today. The most valuable player in this league that's
not a quarterback. You won't believe it. Wide receiver, you
won't believe it. That's next.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
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Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates None of the bull So.
I always thought the most valuable non quarterback in the
NFL was Christian McCaffrey. I mean, Kyle Shanahan is regarded
not only as a great coach, but his system now
is working virtually everywhere. The Saints now the surprise team
of the NFL, use his system. Miami last year use
(11:56):
his system. He has a losing record without Christian McCaffrey.
But I may have found somebody that's even more valuable.
And for years and years I called wide receivers. Icing
on the cake. You can eat cake without icing. It
can make good very good. But if the cake is bad,
the icing can't save it right, like you know, even
(12:19):
with carrot cake, and that's the best icing. But look
at these numbers. AJ Brown's impact on Jalen Hurts's career,
including the playoffs. When AJ Brown is connected and playing
with Jalen Hurts, he is Patrick Mahomes. He's twenty eight
and eight. He'll get to Super Bowls. When AJ Brown's
(12:41):
not there, he is slightly better than Justin Field's with
the same passer rating. It's insane. Basically, Jalen Hurts wins
like Mahomes with AJ Brown. Remember AJ Brown as a
rookie went to Tennessee. There were number one seed thousand
(13:02):
yards rookie he left. They've never been the same franchise.
They've never been the same franchise. Philadelphia scores twenty eight
points when AJ Brown's on the field, fifteen when he's not. Again,
that's the Justin Fields Bears, and a lot of these
wide receivers make noise to Fawn Diggs does Bills look
just fine without him? Justin Jefferson Vikings are five and
(13:26):
two when he doesn't play Sunday Sam Darnold without him,
Jordan Addison or TJ. Hawkinson game clinching drive. The Chiefs
have won two Super Bowls without Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen,
Mike Williams leave the Chargers, They're two to zero. They're
just fine. AJ Brown doesn't play in Philadelphia their last
year's Bears. That's insane. And we all like Jalen Hurts.
(13:50):
I'm not saying he and Justin Field are the same,
just the numbers are, the passer ratings are the same.
I mean, think about Week one, Brandon Noy, you just
got this massive contract. Week one, the rolled supposedly a
good defense with the Jets. Ayuk his most notable moment
he dropped the touchdown pass. He had no connection to
(14:10):
the outcome, no impact on San Francisco's scoring. None had
two catches. So it's just like I think, you know,
we talk overrated, underrated. We've always known TJ. Watt is
really important for the Steelers defense. We all know that.
We know McCaffrey's incredibly valuable, and we also know starting
quarterbacks are There's an argument AJ Brown is the most
(14:34):
valuable the Titans. It's not just what he's delivered in Philly.
The Titans have been a disaster offensively since he left.
Cannot figure it out. They've changed coaches, got Mike Rabel fired,
They've changed everything, quarterbacks, coaches, It's all connected to AJ Brown.
Remember what Mike, Remember how Mike Rabel reacted when they
(14:56):
let go Remember that when they let go of AJ Brown.
Frable's not a guy. He goes to the podium, big
tough guy, doesn't get real emotional when they let go
of AJ Brown. I mean Mike Brable basically came to
the podium and just he's like it was like losing
Brady in New England. Mike Rabel was like, Yeah, this
isn't very good. Isn't that crazy? Jalen Hurt's entire career
(15:22):
without aj Brown connected to it, He's it eighty four
passer rating. He throws for one hundred and forty eight
yards a game. He's twelve twenty and one, and Jalen
Hurts is good. He's good.
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Well. He made his acting debut at fifteen years old. Actor, filmmaker,
podcast host It's Got the podcast literally now second season
of the Floor, which is a very sticky that's a
term people use, a very sticky game show, and it's
premiering Wednesday at nine. He's also a massive sports fan
who I had lunch with last week, So I'm gonna
(17:08):
go fanboy on this. Okay, just tolerate my nonsense for
five minutes. He's a great storyteller. So there are movies
that just wear well and then there's great movies that don't.
When you were making Tommy Boy, Okay, So I think
that's just like it's like hangover, Tommy Boy.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Jack Lemon had a couple of these in his day,
a couple of comedies that you could watch them today
and you're like, this, Mary Tyler Moore is still funny today. Yes,
there are tears two cheers.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Did you know during tom was there a moment with
you Spade and you're like, oh, this is gonna be huge.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
No, never a moment ever, not one, not one.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I mean, the notion of that movie has become what
it has become, and it is I mean it. I
have people all walks of life consistently.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Least stopped me.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Same with Spade, and it just has become a beloved movie.
And we never would have thought ever, I mean, we
thought we were making something that could be good. Never
saw it, never saw it coming having the staying power ever.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now you were Outstanding Lead Actor Emmy nomination for West Wing,
which is one of the great in my opinion, is
one of the seminal last great American television shows. That
Sopranos was HBO, So it's one of the last shows.
It's like I'm watching network. Cheers had this when I
was younger.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
It was the last great network show.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, I think Modern Family was damn funny. Yes, it
was Modern Family. Steve leavittat the writer, That was damn funny.
So when you were on the West Wing, it also
stories I've read it's a lot more than people think.
It's egos writing. Was that enjoyable or was it just successful?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Here's okay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
The way I always put it is, no one ever
wants to hear how hard it was to be in
the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You had all these great actors. Nobody wants to hear. Nobody.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
They just want to love the show, which is great.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
It happened to be a very complicated set for any
number of reasons, but the work was always so amazing,
and we all knew how grateful we were.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
We were all very grateful to be on it.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
So we were under no illusion. That's when we knew
we were making something great. We knew we were making
something great. Meanwhile, the thing of you never want to
hear how they make the sausage, right, that wasn't very pretty.
But the outcome, I mean is one of the things
is probably the thing I'm most proud of.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Still.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now, you knew the Austin Power stuff because Mike Myers
was red hot. He is brilliant. You knew that was
going to be big.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
I did the studio, didn't. I mean, think about all
I think, just go back. I know it's almost impossible
because of what that move he became what it was.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
But like, here's the pitch. So it's a it's a.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
James Bond parody of a of a guy with bad
teeth with a Cockney accent, and then there's a ball
guy named doctor. People are like, what, but we all
knew it would work on the set.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yes, just funny. Oh.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I will never forget being there when he was ad
libbing as Doctor Evil to little Verne Treuer.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
That looks like a baby in me. I'd like to
eat that baby.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, you just die right. You knew it was big. Yeah,
so you you know it's you had a you know,
like a lot of young stars in Los Angeles, you know,
it is impossible not to dabble in the crazy side
of life. But you actually are a doting dad husband.
(20:54):
Uh it is. Do you ever think if you, I mean,
you had the self awareness to get it right.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Yeah, I've been sober thirty four years Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
What got you?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Was there? An epiphany, a moment, a party?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Yes, oh really?
Speaker 8 (21:11):
And what's interesting about they call them? You know when
you hit your bottom right, and everybody has a different bottom.
Some are really really you know, they're in jail. They
some of them are really bad. Mine what wasn't all
that bad, but it was enough for me to go,
you know what, this is untenable. I'm never gonna have
the kind of life I dream about. I'm never going
to be able to make it work with one woman.
(21:34):
And it was just as simple as my beloved grandfather
had had a heart attack and my mom was calling
me in the days of answering machines, and I could
hear her on the answering machine saying pick up, pick up,
pick up. But I was in no shape to do it,
so I didn't pick up. And I just hated that
about myself and I went into the bathroom. I looked
(21:55):
myself in the mirror.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Like a bat.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
It was like a bad movie. It was like an
after school special. I literally went in and looked at
myself in the mirror and I was like, this is
this has got to end? And made a phone call
went to rehab, which I loved. I treated like training camp,
training camp for life.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Loved it. And that was thirty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Good for you, thanks for sharing that. Speaking of you
said bottom and when you said that, I thought floor
and you you are on This is fascinating. So you
did a game show and people think, oh, Rob went
around the corner. No, you actually went to dublind tell
people about this show is hot and sticky.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Yeah, it's amazing. How how embraced this this.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Thing basically that you said, everybody that Ireland.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
This show has become a phenomenon. I never saw that
talking about not seeing it coming. I knew this the
game was great, super addicting. I knew people liked it,
but you never know if it's going to pop off
like it has. And what's so interesting is is we
shoot it in Ireland, and we go to Ireland because
it makes financial sense to do it. But it's just
one of the great sort of inside Hollywood stories that
(23:05):
that that's that's where we do it.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
It is just kind of like like.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What really, And you shoot a season very quickly.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
We can shoot a season in ten days. It's a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Take your golf clubs. It sure did, because you're a
great golfer.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
How about this I got I got off the an
international flight, went right to a run through, went to
the hotel, just pulled out my golf clothes. There was
a course right next to the hotel, and went and
shot tied my career best shot, a seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You're jet legged.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Jet leg's great for the golf swing.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That slows it down. You're on a short list of
the best celebrity golfers. You just want a tournament, didn't gerald?
Didn't you?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
I did?
Speaker 8 (23:45):
They can't take it away from me at riv I
won a golf tournament. Riff, now it was it was
my son, John Owen, Michael Crabtree. Yeah, he's an athlete.
And then, okay, I'm gonna what is this amazing actress's
name is a great golfer.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Newton is last name. I'll think of her first name.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
But she's a stick. We basically won because she was
such a stick. But still a win's win.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
I'm taking it.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah. You're a huge You're a big We talked about
this at lunch. You're a big baseball fan. Baseball you
love Did you play it?
Speaker 7 (24:17):
I did?
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I played it up until coaches started saying you missed
practice for your auditions, and they kicked me off the team.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, Walker Bueller just went to practice. You had audition.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Walker Bueller went to practice. I had auditions. I could
have been Walker Buehler.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You were on NBA commercials years and years and years ago.
NBA is fantastic. It's hard to explain to people because
people think Los Angeles it's the beat. They don't care
about sports. The Lakers when they're hot, will always be
number one in the city, not the NFL, not the Dodgers.
Take people back. It's it's incredible to the magic Johnson.
(24:55):
I mean, they're making movies about it. Take them back
to that.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
I don't don't even know where to begin. I mean,
what what magic meant to this town? When he arrived here,
it was like Santa Claus had arrived. And then he
lived up to it. What he did in that Game
six in Philadelphia, where he played all five positions.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Forty two point seventeen boards, he played center, basically center.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
In his rookie year. You you just can't believe.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
And then, of course the style of play which has
now you know, been you know, every other team has
adapted that run and gun was.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Not a thing.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's right, it was.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
It did not exist.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Amazing. There are athletes, infrequent, but athletes. If you go
back and look at Magic's rookie year, second year rob
like most of that stuff, like Jim Brown, people say
could play today. Yeah, Magic would still be today if
you look at it. Usually things don't age well. Bee,
(25:59):
the bit bad, best player in the league, said, Michael
and Magic are much closer. Michael got the nine finals. No, no, no,
Magic did. Michael got the six. The Blackhawks are in
the Western Conference in hockey. If the Bulls were in
the Western Conference, Michael goes to a final or two
and loses to Bird or Isaiah, and we get over
this six for sixty. Magic was in the finals nine
(26:21):
times and retired early.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yes, he could have played as long as he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I have you ever been to an event with Magic?
In LA When Magic enters Staples, they stand.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Yes, they do to this day. They do it all
over the world.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
I've seen him in Europe, and I mean, first of all,
he can't hide.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
There's no one who looks like him. Everybody knows what
he looks like.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
Smile, big smick, smile, the energy. I mean my two
guys growing up, we were Magic and Sugar Ray Leonard. Yeah,
those are the guys I never bet against. They were
the classiest, best in class and did to have had
floor seats for that run and even into Shaq and Kobe.
We'll never see anything like it again.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Has there ever been a sports movie you wanted to
be in or you were offered and didn't. Do you
have a favorite sports movie or what.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I'm What I want to do is I want to
remake the all time greatest sports movie. I'm too old
for it now. Brian's song, Oh God, I cry.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I watched that as a kid. We all cried to it.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Okay, this is my philosophy. Is you ask any boomer male?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
It was the first sports movie. It was the first
movie we cried to.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Right, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
No, Brian's song is in fact, I not joking. I
looked it up on YouTube a month ago. I was
sitting there getting nostalgic. These guys are looking at me.
They're all on their third You have no idea what
Brian song is.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
For all listeners viewers out there, find it. I think
it's on YouTube. Y it is James Cohn and the Peak,
Billy d.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Will Williams, Gail Sailors, Brian Piccolo.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
It's Gail Sayers, Brian Piccolo, Chicago Bears it is. It's
by far, hands down, not close, the best sports movie
ever made.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm not arguing a month ago I looked it up.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
By the way, this is a man who makes his
living being a contrarian, and he is not arguing that is.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
I'm glad. I feel like I've accomplished something here.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, I like Hoosiers, but I didn't cry. The
Natural I liked it. Miracle I think is great. Yes, Miracle,
you got one, Rudy, They're all good. None of them
made me cry. That's not that's you know. Okay, you've
aged well. Robin Actor, filmmaker podcast host The Floor Season
(28:36):
two premiere on September twenty fifth, here on Fox and
what a pleasure see again, man.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Yes, I love coming here and talk at sports. You
It's just the best.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
One of the great lunches of all time. My wife's
rarely jealous of me. I mentioned multiple times. Gets who
had lunch today was shut up? Yeah, Rob Low, We'll
do it again and more.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Lunch is to come the hurt,
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