Richard Sherman Podcast - Cam Jordan on Saints 2-0 start, Alvin Kamara contract, Sean Payton revenge
September 20, 2024 • 34 mins
Richard Sherman interviews New Orleans Saints NFL All-Pro Cameron Jordan. Cam talks about the 2024 Saints exploding onto the scene with an impressive 2-0 start, their massive Week 2 beatdown of Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys, Alvin Kamara starting the season on fire while still vying for a new contract with the Saints, why their matchup with Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos is the game every Saints fan has circled on the calendar, Buffalo Bills defensive end Von Miller's annual Sack Summit, and who he think would go first overall in a re-draft of his and Richard's all-time great 2011 NFL Draft class.
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Speaker 3 (01:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, man, ex go hand. Welcome back to the
Richard Sherman Podcast. We got an incredible guest today, the
incredible Cam Jordan, my classmate of the twenty eleven class. Obviously,
I've been retired for three years and he's still playing,
So that tells you just how great he is. A
member of the Hunter Sack Club and trying to get
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to the one hundred and fifty sacked club. But you
know what I mean, that's that's different Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, that's that's a different that's a different air, I know.
And the way we got Chase Young and carlgrand is
coming off the edge. Now when it comes down to
third down, I'm inside. I said, let's get to one
twenty five and we'll talk about everything.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Else, everything else, we'll talk about it all. Man. You
gotta be feeling good. Y'all started to seize it on fire.
That boy Rashid Shaheed is out there giving everybody. You
get a post, You get a post. Oh you need
some heat, you get too.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The need for speed is real. No, hey, oh safety
up top corner, nderneath, don't matter. I'll outrun them both.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, I got them both. Look when when I would
tamping for a little while we were study it, I said, yeah,
so if I see him lined up and they in twelve,
are twenty one or twenty two, I'm just gonna I'm
gonna go ahead and just head to the post. If
you catch something else, you got it, bait. But I'm
gonna go ahead, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Gonna take at least one thing away from him.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm taking this away. You ain't about to bomb me.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, you could try to do that, but then that's
when Chris o'live says, hey, if he's a four to two,
I'm a four to two nine. You know, like, come
to this other side, come get this work. Chris o'lava
had a miraculous catches should have been a touchdown last game.
Still still confused on what the ref saw. But you
know what we got, we got, we got we do
blood anyway, so that's all that matters. A speed and
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demons on the team right now.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And it looked like it looked like y'all got I
don't you tell me what changed, because you know, things
didn't go y'all way last year. You know, it's a
lot of injuries and things like that. But Joe Woods
was there as DC. He's a really good DC. Y'all
had a lot of the same pieces offensively, I mean,
Alvin was a little banged up. But I mean this
year just seems like y'all, y'all playing like the rents
do and y'all owe somebody like yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The mission is every week, of course, is to win,
and we've accomplished a mission twice. That'd be said we
started off too and oh last year, all we have
to do is keep on playing our way. But we
all know it's a seventeen week season. Injuries are going
to happen. You know already. You know Marshawn Lattimore missed
this game. You know that's that's huge. CB one, you're
missing him. Passin, Bibill come through, you know, coming strong
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with the interception. We had our boy kool Aid Ckinstry.
I'm gonna calling kool Aid on camera, but I don't
call h kol Aid in real life out of respect
for his name. You know, he came in and played big.
It was just it was just all our effort. We
talked about tire Matthews. Of course he's coming up on
your numbers typed interceptions. I think he was like number
thirty four, number thirty like he's up there interceptions up there, right, respect.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Better get a landlord, some respect, right a fact.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you know, the way we finished strong last year
is how we're coming out hot this year. And we
just got to be consistent about it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Y'all doing a great job. Y'all look good. And and
you know those Stanford guys getting interceptions, I mean you
gotta appreciate that. I mean, it's just one of those things.
That seem to happen quite often. But uh man, let's
talk about that. We don't get back to the football
and to the important and these amazing Saints and y'all
beating the dog mess out of the Cowboys. But what
happened to our conference? What happened?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We don't have a conference? I don't uh. The PAC
twelve is now will be the Pack six with the
Colorado States of the world. Like that used to be
somebody's warm up game and now they're in there, Fresno State.
It used to be respectable, but there they weren't pack level,
but now they're packed. I don't know, call it the
a ZUSA Pacific Conference or what you call it something else?
You call it something else.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I don't like.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The pack used to mean something, but I didn't. I
didn't respect the PAC twelve, you know, as a Pack
ten guy that we were. The PAC twelve is like
Utah Colorado. M I don't know if I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Utah be playing though.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You saw earned my respect off the gate. Utah earned
my respect out the gate. I was like, I don't
know if I like it. I saw you ta playoffs
say now they deserve to be there.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They might deserve everything.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They don't hear this, no doubt. Look now now then
then I was looking at Colorado. I was like, what
are we doing? I was like at the time, I
was like, I thought we would have added Fresno State
before Colorado, Boyd State before Colorado, and I'd still probably
feel that way. But again, the pack is something else
right now. So you know we're a CC now. You
know we fight for the we fight for the acts
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on the West Coast in California, but play all of
our games in Carolina's Florida.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Y'all got back to back games against Florida State and
in Miami.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No doubt, no doubt, at one of the hardest universities
to act, to strive, strive successfully academically wise, Like oh yeah,
you got Mitchell's coming up, No no, go play in Miami,
and you're sure you're gonna have to fly up Thursday
for this Saturday game and come back and somehow study
for this test on. It's gonna be a lot of masks.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And we really don't care. We really don't have any like,
any variants or any leeway to give you, like I mean,
they we're not giving it to the rest of the students.
They're not God dag flying six hours across the country
every weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Bro. When I was to Cal, we were like, we
knew better than to wear Cal football apparel because you
sitting in that class and like, oh, mister Jordan, no no, no, no, no, no, no, Hey,
I just had a game Saturday. I'm not gonna lie
to you. I have party Saturday night. Like oh, okay,
that first that first year Cal, you were rapidly put
up to speed on Hey what things not to do? You?
You could party, but don't you go hard because you
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probably got a test come Monday. And when you hit
those little, small, small classes, Oh, they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You, no, no question, and they're and they're and they're
texting the coach on speed owt Hey he wasn't here today, snitching?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, stitching like no, And I'm sorry. I had I
had two A C springs.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I was broken. I was broken. I was in the
training room for six hours trying to put my body
back together.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I apologize, You're right, I will be a class on time.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that this civilian who has one
class today and he sleeps all day and then he
sleeps afterwards and he got to make it and he
even made it for office hours. I'm sorry, I can't
be that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I can't be that guy. I'm so glad that so
far so far in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bro, people are like, hey, are you going to go
back to school? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm
not going.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm gonna try. I tried, Bro, I tried. I tried
to resign up for a school probably my third year
in the league. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do it,
and cal made it sort of hard at the time
to get back into classes. I was like, man, I
brought the NFL in because you know, they had the
accelerated graduation program. I was like, I got one semester.
I just need to finish this. It didn't happen. Even
with the NFL's help. I was like, nah, he got
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to go to Juco first and come back. I said, man,
I said, this is a lot of hoops. I said,
I'll get it done. A couple of years from now.
Started having kids. Never looked back. I said, you know,
four kids in I've had I'm quite successful in a
lot of things that I've done. You know what I'm
gonna get the degree hopefully one day. But if not,
so what.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're getting, you're getting, you're getting real life education. Right now.
There was four kids giving you a real life.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Real life I've got a lot of physical applications, go
bears that way. I've always wondered because I've never asked,
how do you feel about your mascot? Like, you know,
like they do take pride in a dancing tree. My
dad pulsing a debo, you know, corner for us, went
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to Stanford. I give him a hell about that. He's like, yo,
you know Stanford. I say, first of all, you have
a dancing tree as a mascot, and it's not even
a good dancing tree. They bought that costume at the
Dollar General. Like for as beautiful as the Stanford campus is,
for as much money. They built a stadium in twelve months,
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like shut down in the football season. They started building stadium.
It was finished before the next season. All that money
wh to it? Hey, nobody there doesn't matter. Hey the
details are there. And then you got a dancing mascot
that through some green rags on and has a random
student in there, which I assume is.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Look, if you knew what they had to do to
become the mascot. Your respect level, I don't know if
it would go up, but you'd be even weare, you'd
even be I don't know. I guess you get ingratiated
in the strange culture that we got there at Stanford.
It's the nerd nation, and so certain things you got
to take pride in because you're a bunch of weirdos
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and your way, you know what I mean. And you know,
when you first get there, you're like, hey, it is
kind of strange. But then you start kind of like,
I'm kind of strange, all right, nothing, I'm kind of hey,
these are my people, these are my people. Oh God,
look I don't want to admit it outside, but Jesus, yeah,
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I'm one of them. Uh But back back to the
important stuff, Back back to the Saints, back to how
special this team is. Derek Carr playing Alvin Kamara. They
better pay that man and stop playing with that man.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Whatever he asked, give it to him now, hurry up now,
because the price the price of today will not be
the price of tomorrow, and the price of tomorrow will
not be the price the next week.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Don't let him get to the end of the season.
I don't let him get to the end of the season.
You know what teams are looking for. Look, you can
say the running back market is going down and what's
happening to it, But you know who's market eight Ak
Ak and Christian McCaffrey. They were in a difference around
already and you can see it. Everybody can see. Oh,
that's why they get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's why Ak got tackled like four different times in
Sunday's game. He comes out still scores a touchdown. I say, yo,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I caught how did
he We looked at it two different angles and I
still scratched my head and was like, how like he
showed it in front of the team, Hey, this is
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a great run. Yeah the hell it is, because how
well this Hudini asked running back? Like, you know what,
I've had respect for him since since day one as well,
Like he came in as a rookie what was that
seven eight years ago? And you know, they was like, oh,
he's a good running back. I saw speed. I was like, nah,
we're gonna we're gonna tax him. And that was back
when we used to go live probably like once a
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week in training camp and I try to shmack ak like,
like try to put everything I had into him. I
was like, I'm gonna teach young boy just the lead.
And I hit him and like he caught some mayor
and like took a backstep, and had he not landed
out of bounds, he would have took off again. And
I was like, and I gave him everything now, Like
I gave him the ooha to beat the tackle real
quick for the sham the back of the bottom. He
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landed and then started moving again, and I said, oh,
he's real deal. Okay, there's only a few running backs
in this league I've ever. Okay, I said, he's running.
He running like prime. Adrian Peterson at the Bikings just said, okay,
he's got shakes, like like you know, was it Chris
Johnson two k c J two. I was like, I
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was like, he's running smooth now, like it's deceptive. He's
got Deshaun Jackson type strides, Like he's like, I ain't
even really running until he outruns your safety and you're like.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh, until you're watching the fastest guy on your team
get walked away from him, You're like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh, oh, exactly that's all. That's all you got. You
got a lot of wow. Oh okay, I thought I
was gonna get I thought I had an angle on him.
You know what, he may just looking looking like the
movie line talking about he makes the fast people look
not so fast.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Look, I grew up with d Jack since we were kids.
We played baseball together since we were like seven years old.
So you gotta know when I got to the league
and he was doing that. Anytime I lined up in
front of him, I knew exactly what was going on.
I'm under no disillusionment of what's going on. I know
exactly what he has to offer. I am going to
the book goal line and they want to throw it
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over there, I'll be there too. But I'm not about
to get in a foot race with him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, no, no, there's one of the ones.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The ones. And I played Alvin one time, bro when
when I was in San Francisco. I think that was
the only time I've ever played him. I think he
might have been hurt the other time we came uh there.
But boy, when you talk about somebody where, it looked
like he's he's stopping the time and he's like, what
movie you're about? To make Okay, let me let me
start it again. Excuse me, let me get out the
way up? Up? Where are you going up? Why are
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you on my legs?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Please get off my legs. I mean, I mean cruise.
Where's my offensive line here? Get in front of me,
getting in front of me. I don't feel like running
fast right now. Just block him real quick and then
I'll accelerate after I was like, God, who is this dudent?
Why is he making making us look like we ain't like?
We ain't pros too. I'm a pro.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm a pro.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm a all pro. I'm all pro.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I go, I go after him now like them. Now, look,
I don't know. I don't know who's film me watching.
It's like he grew up watching Marshawn Lynch in the
way Marshawn used to be able to use the blockers
in front of him and then still cut the same time.
He must have been watching Frank Gore with some of
the from the from the hits that he hits between
the tackles. I was like in terms of how he ran,
he must have seemed like Prime Lashaw McCoy and CJ
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two K. Like I said, I don't know where his
game came from because I can't relate it to anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, because it looks like he out there just like
he had walked through in a full game. He like, hey,
let me take this bang bang You get this move?
Cool old line step jab like touch like to these
ain't bad tacklers. HeSE ain't bad defenses.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Man, it's crazy. My man hit the hole yesterday or
not yesterday Sunday? And uh Eric Kendricks, who's a hell
of a linebacker from Minnesota vikingshit Chargers now over. The
Cowboys went to wrap up. Next thing, I know, Eric's
on the ground. I said, what the I said, Hey, yo, bro,
that's ak effects right.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I got a high level of respect for you.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And sorry he won't them. There's a reason.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But we got y'all this year. Yeah, we got y'all
this year. A big game, A really big game, A
crazy game. I noticed. I know it's gonna be crazy
in New Orleans that day because I think they're retiring
Drew's number or jersey or all that. Having his ceremony.
Sean Payton is coming back.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I can't. I'm gonna be in there with you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Said, we you claiming Denver.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now no Thursday night football?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh okay? Hey, hey, I was I was, hey, hey,
I was looking for your loyalties. I was like, I
was like, all I know is Sunday Philly and then
I think I think we got can't landa after that.
So you said we, I was like, we don't mind
this year. I say, wait, we don't have Seattle.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay, Thursday night Footballday night football. Yeah against Denver.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know, I know that that's a that's Sean Payton.
October seventeenth, we got circle. Yeah, not that I have
a circle that I'm quite to wear. The city has
its circle for sure. And the moment the schedule came out,
the city was like, you know, October seventeenth, we got
Sean Payne. So I didn't know it was a Thursday,
but I knew October seventeenth Champagne was come to town.
The city, the city has told me about it multiple times.
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I'm in the streets. Hey, I hope the boy I hope.
I hope we beat Atlanta. The Cowboys and Champagne on
October seventeenth said good morning to you too. I want
the Saints to do really well as well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Look, my boy, be beep Brandon Brandon Browner, he's played
for the Saints for a couple of years. He told
me how cold those fans are. He said, I guess
y'all to get from your facility to the parking lite
or something like, you gotta or maybe it's the stadium
to the parking line, you gotta walk past a nice
strip where fans can beat Yeah. Yeah, And he said
they do not have They do not mind giving you
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a piece of the mind.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
All of them, they are all all the Saints nation.
They just they fully bought in now. They've been they've
been watching the Saints since their grandparents took them to
their first game, since they parents took them to their
first game. They're just legacy watchers like they. I mean,
I remember the game at Tu Lane. If they old nothing.
Oh man, my grandpa took me our first game. When
I say, and I'm gonna take my kids, can't wait
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to take their kids to this same game. So they
bought in now. And so there's two games you can't
lose a year, and that's against the Ain't Atlanta Falcons.
And they hey, whatever happens happens, Well, we don't lose,
no dirty birds, no stinking I said, God, okay, and
now and now I get it. I understand it, you know,
like fourteen years in, I get the pain. I feel
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what it is to win and be there at you know,
Atlanta and then the Cowboys somewhere has came up in there,
and then everywhere else. There's always like rotating, you know,
in the league, there's rotational rivalries, like you have one
and it said it's Aintlanta. But then there's like what'll
pop up, be like cam Newton and Carolina and they'll
get a little little energy, You'll get a little wild
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you know, you're like, all right, no, I see where
you're coming from. Brother, Like, okay, we challenge them, and
then they disappeared, and then it'll be you like you know,
they pop up and it'll be like Philadelphia for a
year two because you saw him in the playoffs, or
Minnesota they're like, oh no, we need to look back.
You know, like this this you have the rotational rivalries,
but there's always going to be your first your first
love and your first hate. And you know your first
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hate is going to be in Atlanta, right.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But now, now look the cup of coffee I spit
in Tampa bay Uh. That year, I realized there's a
genuine hate there too. Now, but that's what excited.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's that's more hate from Tampa to New Orleans than
New Orleans and Tampa.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It's legitimate, no doubt, no doubt, like from from because
you know, we played and it was the Josh Freeman
era and the Jamis era, and then it was like,
you had two really good years with Tampa, Tom you know,
the Tampa era, and that's what they're still holding on to.
They're like, hell, yeah, you gotta respect us. Calm down, bro,
Like relax, you're no longer in that era.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It was short lived and you got a lot of
sets out of there.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Get y'all, y'all was beating them in that era. Because
y'all want to say, y'all only lost in the playoffs
and that in that time because I came and I
cannot believe we lost that game. I didn't play in
it because I was hurt. We lost to like SeeMe
On somebody. It was like three I think James got hurt.
And then somebody came in there talking the rock around
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the yard. I said, I looked at my cleats. I said,
it might be that time.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It might be Hey, look again, it was. It's one
sided from you know, they're like, yeah, you gonna see us.
Really not worried about you, bro. We got Atlanta next week,
you know, like we got bigger games we gotta play.
And then y'all want a super Bowl and they're like, yeah,
not yeah, you're scared of us. I think we beat
y'all nine zero. That the hell relax, take.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It easy, right, I mean, it's that d line y'all
got right now, y'all was give y'all been giving people
hell for a long time, and they don't ever give
y'all enough appreciation for the y'all unit. And how devastating
because regardless of what y'all record is and what's going
on and overall, that ass rush.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
He's gonna get me home, gonna be there. Look, stop
the run, have some fun. You know, I'm fully bought
in on Stop the Run. I'm I'm gonna hold that
down to the death of me. And now it's like,
you know, you got Chase Young, you Carl Grandison, we
drafted Peyton Turner, you got Isaiah Fosky. So it's like
all these you got five really good ends and so
now it's like, you know what I've been asking for
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for years. I was like, hey man, we need one
of those monsters. We need one of those monsters in
the mendele one of those guys you can't teach, you know,
Big Sweat from from Texas. I was like, oh, man,
I need them, you know, Christian Barmore. I was like, man,
let's go get them. Uh no and no. And then
I was like, come on, man, you know, like we
gotta go get one of these guys, these monsters Jordan Davis,
you know, with these jas Carters whatever, No, and no,
we get Brian. I was like, we finally got us
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a dog in the middle. And it's like, all right,
we need what more? Hey, Cam, why don't you slide inside?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Wait, wait, that's not what I was asking for. I
asked for a monster that you can't now, Cam, even
nobody like you know the game, So what you know.
I asked for a monster. Cam, go be a in
the middle.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I'm a monster on the edge. Okay, I'm not even
that scary.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I talk a lot of ship. So it's in the middle. Huh,
Team te te Team Big big team, little me. I said, Okay. Then,
so the third down comes and it's Carl on the edge.
Just chased on the edge is Brian braz in the middle,
and I'm lining up like, hey, Brian, you got me.
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He's like, yeah, let's go get it all right, Bro,
it's a different mentality. I'm in my l of warrior
type stage. I live, I die, I live again. I
see the beer, I got it, Hey got it going.
I'm in my warrior mentality, bro. If that's what you take,
and I'm out here giving stutter steps and powers and
everything else, I'm like, okay, hey, whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It is, I'm boty in Look. I I've run into
that eight gap only a few times in my career.
I'm gonna let y'all know something. If you put a
virtual react helmet on and got to experience different positions
in football, you would understand it's an entirely different game
depending on which position you're playing. And in those trenches,
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it's real, no suit, bro. I went in there and
grown men start grabbing me, to the point where I
said I need a self defense weapon on this field
because that man grabbed me and I could not get
his hands off of me for my life, and I
had I had to tell him. I say, hey, you know,
no matter how much I lift, some of these men
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are built and bread to do this, no doubt. And
all they want to do is get their hands on
somebody two hundred pounds or less.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Man, just a trit william highlight, like Trick can't wait
to grab somebody under two fifty. Look at what Trick
Williams does. That's why you don't let him get to
the second level, because he's going to embarrass the hell
out of anybody who is two thirty five and below.
But Trent is a a monster. He has a freaking
gorilla on the side of his plane. He is looking
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to create these highlights. And guess why I just gave
him a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You just gave him a chance. Bro. Travis fredericks that
the cowboys ran like a tall sweep, pulled both ends
and the backers got captured, so they got they got
washed inside. So it's two pullers. So I can't even
cut right now. I gotta stand up and try to
send it all back. He must have grabbed me, and
before I knew it, I'm stepping over camera. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
What I tell you what I'll tell you about wearing
these white tea's in the club. No white tea's in
the club.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Get out of here. I had to tell him, Hey,
do not dump me. Do not dumb me, Do not
dumb me. My son is at this game. Not put
me on the even children in this.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He didn't dump me, though, from how respective you know
what I mean, Travis Frederick, you always got a fan
in me.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I turned. I rely on beast mode a one hundred
percent of the time. I'm like, I got two much
pride to fall. There's sometimes you're gonna get got, but
I'm gonna get mine more than i'mna get got right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But see you three hundred and you pushing a lot
of weight.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Man, Man, I'm gonna have to be three hundred soon,
but I'm not. I'm not gonna be there. In fact,
I'm going lighter this year. A you know I'm going lighter.
I've normally played like two eighty five, two ninety. I'm
too chevy five and I'm made you touch two seventy.
I'm going faster. If you need faster than speed of light,
I'm going Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Aaron, I'm going Mike Bennett.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Nah Mike Be had them little ass pad bro. He
was a a c. He was an ac problem waiting
to happen, like I know, his shoulders hurt, like this
is the reason why I might be disappeared for a
while because he probably had to go to reconstructive surgery
on his body. I know he disappeared and did some
like Motherland Graceland type stuff to get his body right
because Mike, like he was Mike Be was wearing your
pads out there.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And with with the with the little shoulder things, cut off.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Shoulders, shoulders out taking on blocks. I said, yeah, noam this,
I need that.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So tell me about this d N summit that they had.
You know, I think that's one of the coolest things.
I know, kid On those guys to tight end you
and all that. And Von, I don't know Vonn.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Starry Von for sure, you know you know what it is.
Von started Uh it was the the past rush camp.
Uh probably twelve years ago, eleven years ago, and then
two years ago he was like, hey, Cam, I want
to make this like huge. I want to make this big.
I want to make this better, like we already have
some guys, you know, fifteen twenty guys show up, we
get working all this other stuff. He's like, oh he's
(26:25):
got I got dreams of this being ours. I was like, man,
you know Von the visionary brings in Max Crosey myself.
You know, between that, we make the past Rush Summit
and we had what like sixty plus guys edge rushers,
d tackles, dns from across the across the league getting working.
So there's there's where there's vision. There's always there's always dreams.
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And when dreams come reality, this is great possibilities. Just
talking football. You know the Matt Judon's is the Josh
allens Hines now that you know now he switched up
his last name. Uh, you know, the Brian Burns, Von Miller,
Max Cross myself, you know, big Big Simmons over Tennessee.
There's so many guys in this league show showed up,
(27:08):
showed out and just show shooting ideas off each other.
Uh you got you got something like that, like learning mentalities,
teaching different passors, moves. It's only gonna be beneficial towards you,
you know, and it's just to be around greatness. You're like, bro,
I gotta go get it. That's why I literally was
sitting there like two eighty seven to eighty eight, and
I was like, all these skinny mugs around me, it's
(27:30):
time to see what you're Skinny life talking about. You know,
Vonn and Max ain't nothing but two fifty five with
the backpacks on right right, I said, all right, time
for skinny cam to show up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Got me, y'all, got me no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was like, I hit camp. I got like two
sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I was like, yeah, skinny cam here, and they're like
cam three techniques, Like skinny cam can't be here getting
skinny seventy five. Okay. I was like we could, we
were gonna eat again.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Skinny cam gone, go does he have a white shirt on?
Because at the three technique I can probably suffice. I
slid over to the nose one time I'm over the center.
I said, oh no, no, no, no, this skinny cam can't
do this.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, medium cam.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
They be punching, they'd be trying to punch through chests
out there. You can have to make sure all my
blitzes go to the outside.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Look, you could be in that middle and be like,
oh yeah, I'm gonna handle this center expeditiously, and that
guard be like yeah, but what about thieves hands. I
didn't even finish with him, bro, I can't The swipe
won't work if we're already engaged.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Could you just wait one second him real quick?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, let me beat him and I get to you
in a second. I just okay.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So it's a new life, it's a new realm, and
you know it's a new way of learning. But that's
exciting too. So you go from go from like, nah,
you know who I am to you know what? I
could be dominant anywhere and I fully believe that. So
let's go get it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I love it. I love it, and I love how
much because it seems like everybody's getting a lot out
of that. You know, you giving a lot, you know
I could. I see you giving technique and giving the
game to the young guys, and it's so needed because
you only respect so many people in this league. You know,
you're not about to just sit there and listen to anybody,
even some of these coaches. I'm not about to sit
here and listen to you tell me how to be great.
When when I saw your tape, like don't don't, don't
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talk to me about this, I know what Joe tape
looked like, now there's other coaches who never played the
game that got the utmost respect. Y'all, Well, listen to
everything you say because you're so prepared your game plan right,
you put the work in. I know you know what
you're talking about, but when you hear it come from
a player that played at such a high level that
you watched and you always wanted to know, Man, what
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ingredients are in that? God dang in that what he
cooking up? Because he did? You watch Vin this week? Man?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
On Thursday, I'll say, well, this last third day, Vonn
is back in action. Bro, the long arms, the ghost moves.
I'll say, he's he's acting up right now acting And
their D line's crazy too, because I mean, you got
you got gotta eat. But I always mess up his name.
You got epiness over there. You got young bull that
(30:07):
who just got paid from UH. I was like, they're there,
They're D line in general is on.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Federaly, federaly and he if he's back.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, and he I was like, clearly he's back in
full force out there timing katus is jumping. I was like, Bro,
it's the fact that his first three steps is still
elite like, it's crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Bro. I was sitting there, we were in the green
room watching it, and we're like, it was like a
third and goal from like the sixth or seven, and
they didn't have no choice and they were trying to
get to the line and they had to pass it.
I said, Oh, this is a Von Sach like, y'all,
y'all not gonna double county right here. It was a
third and eleven right before the half where I thought
he was gonna go do it. But I think they
ran the screen or something. But I was like, this
(30:49):
is a he if he jumps off side, it's not
gonna matter. So he's definitely gonna jump this one fact.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Fact, it's his his his knowledge of the game just
allows him to jump. And like he'll tell you like
I'm gonna jump this coup like you can see it
in his dance. I'm like, oh, he's jumping this.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Okay, go okay, okay, Bro, If you just think about
that class, that twenty eleven draft class, like you went
twenty fourth, and I know if they redrafted you would
you would be top five, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
But would I look right if we if we drafted
top fifteen?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, give me your redraft, give me your give me
your top top fifteen.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Out of out of ours.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You're gonna have Cam Newton still at one, You're gonna
have Vonnit two, You're gonna have marcell Darius at three.
Still you know you're you're you're gonna have are you
probably gonna say Julio or Pat p and you know
that's that's yeah, pat P at four, Julio at five,
AJ at six would probably be the switch up.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Then, right, you know what, then you got Tyron. It's
like you still want Tyrannt in your top ten.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
So you're gonna say Tyron, and you're gonna have to
include jj Watt and you're gonna you go to have
to probably include you know, a Smith because he was
the fastest to forty five sacks ever, so you weren't wrong,
you just you know, like, so there's your ten and
then you know, I'm gonna throw myself hopefully in there
at around ten eleven ish, and then there's still Ryan Carrigan,
and then there's Robert Quinn and like you couldn't Cam Hayward,
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like you couldn't miss if you say top fifteen, right,
you were one of the pouncy brothers. You know, we
had one of the pouncy brothers out there. Like then
you throw in Justin Houston, Richard Sherman. We're already at twenty.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Like you forget Jason Kelcey, like and he's getting silly.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's real. I don't know if there's
a redraft possibility. I mean, what you'd rather do is
have Cam Newton as as the only quarterback in that
draft class and then you take out the other two
quarterbacks and insert somebody, because out of that top ten,
that's all only the ones. You'd be like, ah, we
could have done.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Better, all right, the quarterbacks? What was it? We had
Blaine Saye.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And Christian Christian Ponder and.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Ponder and Ja and Jake. Yeah we could We could
have done without them. You could have on without.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
In the first round. You know, we could have slid it.
You know, I would have took out Jake and put
in Andy Dalton, you know, like and.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You would have been fine. Andy had a heck of
a career. And speaking of that, I mean he starting again,
starting again, and people this is what I don't think
people understand about the league, Like there are quality quarterbacks
not starting in this league because you have to draft
these guys and give the fans hope. But Andy Dalton
was a better quarterback since Bryce Young got there, and
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it's still the better quarterback today because he's a pro quarterback.
He can drop back and read a defense, get the
ball where it's supposed to get, throw for three hundred yards,
execute your offense. And you know, will he occasionally turn
the ball over a little bit more sure? But can
he gets you in a position that you have a
chance where you feel like, going into this game, I
have a chance to win, no question facts.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Anyways, Wait, I gotta go about.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
To run, all right, But appreciate you. I appreciate you
joining me and great to peace. Peace. The volume
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Speaker 2 (01:54):
Company Delta Championships.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
That should always be the expectation.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, man, ex go hand. Welcome back to the
Richard Sherman Podcast. We got an incredible guest today, the
incredible Cam Jordan, my classmate of the twenty eleven class. Obviously,
I've been retired for three years and he's still playing,
So that tells you just how great he is. A
member of the Hunter Sack Club and trying to get
(02:19):
to the one hundred and fifty sacked club. But you
know what I mean, that's that's different Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, that's that's a different that's a different air, I know.
And the way we got Chase Young and carlgrand is
coming off the edge. Now when it comes down to
third down, I'm inside. I said, let's get to one
twenty five and we'll talk about everything.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Else, everything else, we'll talk about it all. Man. You
gotta be feeling good. Y'all started to seize it on fire.
That boy Rashid Shaheed is out there giving everybody. You
get a post, You get a post. Oh you need
some heat, you get too.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The need for speed is real. No, hey, oh safety
up top corner, nderneath, don't matter. I'll outrun them both.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, I got them both. Look when when I would
tamping for a little while we were study it, I said, yeah,
so if I see him lined up and they in twelve,
are twenty one or twenty two, I'm just gonna I'm
gonna go ahead and just head to the post. If
you catch something else, you got it, bait. But I'm
gonna go ahead, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Gonna take at least one thing away from him.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm taking this away. You ain't about to bomb me.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, you could try to do that, but then that's
when Chris o'live says, hey, if he's a four to two,
I'm a four to two nine. You know, like, come
to this other side, come get this work. Chris o'lava
had a miraculous catches should have been a touchdown last game.
Still still confused on what the ref saw. But you
know what we got, we got, we got we do
blood anyway, so that's all that matters. A speed and
(03:40):
demons on the team right now.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And it looked like it looked like y'all got I
don't you tell me what changed, because you know, things
didn't go y'all way last year. You know, it's a
lot of injuries and things like that. But Joe Woods
was there as DC. He's a really good DC. Y'all
had a lot of the same pieces offensively, I mean,
Alvin was a little banged up. But I mean this
year just seems like y'all, y'all playing like the rents
do and y'all owe somebody like yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The mission is every week, of course, is to win,
and we've accomplished a mission twice. That'd be said we
started off too and oh last year, all we have
to do is keep on playing our way. But we
all know it's a seventeen week season. Injuries are going
to happen. You know already. You know Marshawn Lattimore missed
this game. You know that's that's huge. CB one, you're
missing him. Passin, Bibill come through, you know, coming strong
(04:29):
with the interception. We had our boy kool Aid Ckinstry.
I'm gonna calling kool Aid on camera, but I don't
call h kol Aid in real life out of respect
for his name. You know, he came in and played big.
It was just it was just all our effort. We
talked about tire Matthews. Of course he's coming up on
your numbers typed interceptions. I think he was like number
thirty four, number thirty like he's up there interceptions up there, right, respect.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Better get a landlord, some respect, right a fact.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you know, the way we finished strong last year
is how we're coming out hot this year. And we
just got to be consistent about it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Y'all doing a great job. Y'all look good. And and
you know those Stanford guys getting interceptions, I mean you
gotta appreciate that. I mean, it's just one of those things.
That seem to happen quite often. But uh man, let's
talk about that. We don't get back to the football
and to the important and these amazing Saints and y'all
beating the dog mess out of the Cowboys. But what
happened to our conference? What happened?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
We don't have a conference? I don't uh. The PAC
twelve is now will be the Pack six with the
Colorado States of the world. Like that used to be
somebody's warm up game and now they're in there, Fresno State.
It used to be respectable, but there they weren't pack level,
but now they're packed. I don't know, call it the
a ZUSA Pacific Conference or what you call it something else?
You call it something else.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I don't like.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
The pack used to mean something, but I didn't. I
didn't respect the PAC twelve, you know, as a Pack
ten guy that we were. The PAC twelve is like
Utah Colorado. M I don't know if I like it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Utah be playing though.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You saw earned my respect off the gate. Utah earned
my respect out the gate. I was like, I don't
know if I like it. I saw you ta playoffs
say now they deserve to be there.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They might deserve everything.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They don't hear this, no doubt. Look now now then
then I was looking at Colorado. I was like, what
are we doing? I was like at the time, I
was like, I thought we would have added Fresno State
before Colorado, Boyd State before Colorado, and I'd still probably
feel that way. But again, the pack is something else
right now. So you know we're a CC now. You
know we fight for the we fight for the acts
(06:35):
on the West Coast in California, but play all of
our games in Carolina's Florida.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Y'all got back to back games against Florida State and
in Miami.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No doubt, no doubt, at one of the hardest universities
to act, to strive, strive successfully academically wise, Like oh yeah,
you got Mitchell's coming up, No no, go play in Miami,
and you're sure you're gonna have to fly up Thursday
for this Saturday game and come back and somehow study
for this test on. It's gonna be a lot of masks.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And we really don't care. We really don't have any like,
any variants or any leeway to give you, like I mean,
they we're not giving it to the rest of the students.
They're not God dag flying six hours across the country
every weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Bro. When I was to Cal, we were like, we
knew better than to wear Cal football apparel because you
sitting in that class and like, oh, mister Jordan, no no, no, no, no, no, no, Hey,
I just had a game Saturday. I'm not gonna lie
to you. I have party Saturday night. Like oh, okay,
that first that first year Cal, you were rapidly put
up to speed on Hey what things not to do? You?
You could party, but don't you go hard because you
(07:43):
probably got a test come Monday. And when you hit
those little, small, small classes, Oh, they're looking for.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You, no, no question, and they're and they're and they're
texting the coach on speed owt Hey he wasn't here today, snitching?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, stitching like no, And I'm sorry. I had I
had two A C springs.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I was broken. I was broken. I was in the
training room for six hours trying to put my body
back together.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I apologize, You're right, I will be a class on time.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that this civilian who has one
class today and he sleeps all day and then he
sleeps afterwards and he got to make it and he
even made it for office hours. I'm sorry, I can't
be that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I can't be that guy. I'm so glad that so
far so far in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bro, people are like, hey, are you going to go
back to school? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm
not going.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm gonna try. I tried, Bro, I tried. I tried
to resign up for a school probably my third year
in the league. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do it,
and cal made it sort of hard at the time
to get back into classes. I was like, man, I
brought the NFL in because you know, they had the
accelerated graduation program. I was like, I got one semester.
I just need to finish this. It didn't happen. Even
with the NFL's help. I was like, nah, he got
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to go to Juco first and come back. I said, man,
I said, this is a lot of hoops. I said,
I'll get it done. A couple of years from now.
Started having kids. Never looked back. I said, you know,
four kids in I've had I'm quite successful in a
lot of things that I've done. You know what I'm
gonna get the degree hopefully one day. But if not,
so what.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're getting, you're getting, you're getting real life education. Right now.
There was four kids giving you a real life.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Real life I've got a lot of physical applications, go
bears that way. I've always wondered because I've never asked,
how do you feel about your mascot? Like, you know,
like they do take pride in a dancing tree. My
dad pulsing a debo, you know, corner for us, went
(09:33):
to Stanford. I give him a hell about that. He's like, yo,
you know Stanford. I say, first of all, you have
a dancing tree as a mascot, and it's not even
a good dancing tree. They bought that costume at the
Dollar General. Like for as beautiful as the Stanford campus is,
for as much money. They built a stadium in twelve months,
(09:53):
like shut down in the football season. They started building stadium.
It was finished before the next season. All that money
wh to it? Hey, nobody there doesn't matter. Hey the
details are there. And then you got a dancing mascot
that through some green rags on and has a random
student in there, which I assume is.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Look, if you knew what they had to do to
become the mascot. Your respect level, I don't know if
it would go up, but you'd be even weare, you'd
even be I don't know. I guess you get ingratiated
in the strange culture that we got there at Stanford.
It's the nerd nation, and so certain things you got
to take pride in because you're a bunch of weirdos
(10:33):
and your way, you know what I mean. And you know,
when you first get there, you're like, hey, it is
kind of strange. But then you start kind of like,
I'm kind of strange, all right, nothing, I'm kind of hey,
these are my people, these are my people. Oh God,
look I don't want to admit it outside, but Jesus, yeah,
(10:55):
I'm one of them. Uh But back back to the
important stuff, Back back to the Saints, back to how
special this team is. Derek Carr playing Alvin Kamara. They
better pay that man and stop playing with that man.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Whatever he asked, give it to him now, hurry up now,
because the price the price of today will not be
the price of tomorrow, and the price of tomorrow will
not be the price the next week.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Don't let him get to the end of the season.
I don't let him get to the end of the season.
You know what teams are looking for. Look, you can
say the running back market is going down and what's
happening to it, But you know who's market eight Ak
Ak and Christian McCaffrey. They were in a difference around
already and you can see it. Everybody can see. Oh,
that's why they get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's why Ak got tackled like four different times in
Sunday's game. He comes out still scores a touchdown. I say, yo,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I caught how did
he We looked at it two different angles and I
still scratched my head and was like, how like he
showed it in front of the team, Hey, this is
(12:02):
a great run. Yeah the hell it is, because how
well this Hudini asked running back? Like, you know what,
I've had respect for him since since day one as well,
Like he came in as a rookie what was that
seven eight years ago? And you know, they was like, oh,
he's a good running back. I saw speed. I was like, nah,
we're gonna we're gonna tax him. And that was back
when we used to go live probably like once a
(12:24):
week in training camp and I try to shmack ak like,
like try to put everything I had into him. I
was like, I'm gonna teach young boy just the lead.
And I hit him and like he caught some mayor
and like took a backstep, and had he not landed
out of bounds, he would have took off again. And
I was like, and I gave him everything now, Like
I gave him the ooha to beat the tackle real
quick for the sham the back of the bottom. He
(12:46):
landed and then started moving again, and I said, oh,
he's real deal. Okay, there's only a few running backs
in this league I've ever. Okay, I said, he's running.
He running like prime. Adrian Peterson at the Bikings just said, okay,
he's got shakes, like like you know, was it Chris
Johnson two k c J two. I was like, I
(13:07):
was like, he's running smooth now, like it's deceptive. He's
got Deshaun Jackson type strides, Like he's like, I ain't
even really running until he outruns your safety and you're like.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh, until you're watching the fastest guy on your team
get walked away from him, You're like.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh, oh, exactly that's all. That's all you got. You
got a lot of wow. Oh okay, I thought I
was gonna get I thought I had an angle on him.
You know what, he may just looking looking like the
movie line talking about he makes the fast people look
not so fast.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Look, I grew up with d Jack since we were kids.
We played baseball together since we were like seven years old.
So you gotta know when I got to the league
and he was doing that. Anytime I lined up in
front of him, I knew exactly what was going on.
I'm under no disillusionment of what's going on. I know
exactly what he has to offer. I am going to
the book goal line and they want to throw it
(14:05):
over there, I'll be there too. But I'm not about
to get in a foot race with him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
No, no, no, there's one of the ones.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The ones. And I played Alvin one time, bro when
when I was in San Francisco. I think that was
the only time I've ever played him. I think he
might have been hurt the other time we came uh there.
But boy, when you talk about somebody where, it looked
like he's he's stopping the time and he's like, what
movie you're about? To make Okay, let me let me
start it again. Excuse me, let me get out the
way up? Up? Where are you going up? Why are
(14:33):
you on my legs?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Please get off my legs. I mean, I mean cruise.
Where's my offensive line here? Get in front of me,
getting in front of me. I don't feel like running
fast right now. Just block him real quick and then
I'll accelerate after I was like, God, who is this dudent?
Why is he making making us look like we ain't like?
We ain't pros too. I'm a pro.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm a pro.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm a all pro. I'm all pro.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I go, I go after him now like them. Now, look,
I don't know. I don't know who's film me watching.
It's like he grew up watching Marshawn Lynch in the
way Marshawn used to be able to use the blockers
in front of him and then still cut the same time.
He must have been watching Frank Gore with some of
the from the from the hits that he hits between
the tackles. I was like in terms of how he ran,
he must have seemed like Prime Lashaw McCoy and CJ
(15:16):
two K. Like I said, I don't know where his
game came from because I can't relate it to anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
No, because it looks like he out there just like
he had walked through in a full game. He like, hey,
let me take this bang bang You get this move?
Cool old line step jab like touch like to these
ain't bad tacklers. HeSE ain't bad defenses.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Man, it's crazy. My man hit the hole yesterday or
not yesterday Sunday? And uh Eric Kendricks, who's a hell
of a linebacker from Minnesota vikingshit Chargers now over. The
Cowboys went to wrap up. Next thing, I know, Eric's
on the ground. I said, what the I said, Hey, yo, bro,
that's ak effects right.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I got a high level of respect for you.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
And sorry he won't them. There's a reason.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But we got y'all this year. Yeah, we got y'all
this year. A big game, A really big game, A
crazy game. I noticed. I know it's gonna be crazy
in New Orleans that day because I think they're retiring
Drew's number or jersey or all that. Having his ceremony.
Sean Payton is coming back.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I can't. I'm gonna be in there with you.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Said, we you claiming Denver.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Now no Thursday night football?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh okay? Hey, hey, I was I was, hey, hey,
I was looking for your loyalties. I was like, I
was like, all I know is Sunday Philly and then
I think I think we got can't landa after that.
So you said we, I was like, we don't mind
this year. I say, wait, we don't have Seattle.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay, Thursday night Footballday night football. Yeah against Denver.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know, I know that that's a that's Sean Payton.
October seventeenth, we got circle. Yeah, not that I have
a circle that I'm quite to wear. The city has
its circle for sure. And the moment the schedule came out,
the city was like, you know, October seventeenth, we got
Sean Payne. So I didn't know it was a Thursday,
but I knew October seventeenth Champagne was come to town.
The city, the city has told me about it multiple times.
(17:13):
I'm in the streets. Hey, I hope the boy I hope.
I hope we beat Atlanta. The Cowboys and Champagne on
October seventeenth said good morning to you too. I want
the Saints to do really well as well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Look, my boy, be beep Brandon Brandon Browner, he's played
for the Saints for a couple of years. He told
me how cold those fans are. He said, I guess
y'all to get from your facility to the parking lite
or something like, you gotta or maybe it's the stadium
to the parking line, you gotta walk past a nice
strip where fans can beat Yeah. Yeah, And he said
they do not have They do not mind giving you
(17:49):
a piece of the mind.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
All of them, they are all all the Saints nation.
They just they fully bought in now. They've been they've
been watching the Saints since their grandparents took them to
their first game, since they parents took them to their
first game. They're just legacy watchers like they. I mean,
I remember the game at Tu Lane. If they old nothing.
Oh man, my grandpa took me our first game. When
I say, and I'm gonna take my kids, can't wait
(18:13):
to take their kids to this same game. So they
bought in now. And so there's two games you can't
lose a year, and that's against the Ain't Atlanta Falcons.
And they hey, whatever happens happens, Well, we don't lose,
no dirty birds, no stinking I said, God, okay, and
now and now I get it. I understand it, you know,
like fourteen years in, I get the pain. I feel
(18:34):
what it is to win and be there at you know,
Atlanta and then the Cowboys somewhere has came up in there,
and then everywhere else. There's always like rotating, you know,
in the league, there's rotational rivalries, like you have one
and it said it's Aintlanta. But then there's like what'll
pop up, be like cam Newton and Carolina and they'll
get a little little energy, You'll get a little wild
(18:54):
you know, you're like, all right, no, I see where
you're coming from. Brother, Like, okay, we challenge them, and
then they disappeared, and then it'll be you like you know,
they pop up and it'll be like Philadelphia for a
year two because you saw him in the playoffs, or
Minnesota they're like, oh no, we need to look back.
You know, like this this you have the rotational rivalries,
but there's always going to be your first your first
love and your first hate. And you know your first
(19:15):
hate is going to be in Atlanta, right.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But now, now look the cup of coffee I spit
in Tampa bay Uh. That year, I realized there's a
genuine hate there too. Now, but that's what excited.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
That's that's more hate from Tampa to New Orleans than
New Orleans and Tampa.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It's legitimate, no doubt, no doubt, like from from because
you know, we played and it was the Josh Freeman
era and the Jamis era, and then it was like,
you had two really good years with Tampa, Tom you know,
the Tampa era, and that's what they're still holding on to.
They're like, hell, yeah, you gotta respect us. Calm down, bro,
Like relax, you're no longer in that era.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It was short lived and you got a lot of
sets out of there.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Get y'all, y'all was beating them in that era. Because
y'all want to say, y'all only lost in the playoffs
and that in that time because I came and I
cannot believe we lost that game. I didn't play in
it because I was hurt. We lost to like SeeMe
On somebody. It was like three I think James got hurt.
And then somebody came in there talking the rock around
(20:19):
the yard. I said, I looked at my cleats. I said,
it might be that time.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It might be Hey, look again, it was. It's one
sided from you know, they're like, yeah, you gonna see us.
Really not worried about you, bro. We got Atlanta next week,
you know, like we got bigger games we gotta play.
And then y'all want a super Bowl and they're like, yeah,
not yeah, you're scared of us. I think we beat
y'all nine zero. That the hell relax, take.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It easy, right, I mean, it's that d line y'all
got right now, y'all was give y'all been giving people
hell for a long time, and they don't ever give
y'all enough appreciation for the y'all unit. And how devastating
because regardless of what y'all record is and what's going
on and overall, that ass rush.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
He's gonna get me home, gonna be there. Look, stop
the run, have some fun. You know, I'm fully bought
in on Stop the Run. I'm I'm gonna hold that
down to the death of me. And now it's like,
you know, you got Chase Young, you Carl Grandison, we
drafted Peyton Turner, you got Isaiah Fosky. So it's like
all these you got five really good ends and so
now it's like, you know what I've been asking for
(21:22):
for years. I was like, hey man, we need one
of those monsters. We need one of those monsters in
the mendele one of those guys you can't teach, you know,
Big Sweat from from Texas. I was like, oh, man,
I need them, you know, Christian Barmore. I was like, man,
let's go get them. Uh no and no. And then
I was like, come on, man, you know, like we
gotta go get one of these guys, these monsters Jordan Davis,
you know, with these jas Carters whatever, No, and no,
we get Brian. I was like, we finally got us
(21:42):
a dog in the middle. And it's like, all right,
we need what more? Hey, Cam, why don't you slide inside?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Wait, wait, that's not what I was asking for. I
asked for a monster that you can't now, Cam, even
nobody like you know the game, So what you know.
I asked for a monster. Cam, go be a in
the middle.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I'm a monster on the edge. Okay, I'm not even
that scary.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I talk a lot of ship. So it's in the middle. Huh,
Team te te Team Big big team, little me. I said, Okay. Then,
so the third down comes and it's Carl on the edge.
Just chased on the edge is Brian braz in the middle,
and I'm lining up like, hey, Brian, you got me.
(22:28):
He's like, yeah, let's go get it all right, Bro,
it's a different mentality. I'm in my l of warrior
type stage. I live, I die, I live again. I
see the beer, I got it, Hey got it going.
I'm in my warrior mentality, bro. If that's what you take,
and I'm out here giving stutter steps and powers and
everything else, I'm like, okay, hey, whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It is, I'm boty in Look. I I've run into
that eight gap only a few times in my career.
I'm gonna let y'all know something. If you put a
virtual react helmet on and got to experience different positions
in football, you would understand it's an entirely different game
depending on which position you're playing. And in those trenches,
(23:12):
it's real, no suit, bro. I went in there and
grown men start grabbing me, to the point where I
said I need a self defense weapon on this field
because that man grabbed me and I could not get
his hands off of me for my life, and I
had I had to tell him. I say, hey, you know,
no matter how much I lift, some of these men
(23:32):
are built and bread to do this, no doubt. And
all they want to do is get their hands on
somebody two hundred pounds or less.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Man, just a trit william highlight, like Trick can't wait
to grab somebody under two fifty. Look at what Trick
Williams does. That's why you don't let him get to
the second level, because he's going to embarrass the hell
out of anybody who is two thirty five and below.
But Trent is a a monster. He has a freaking
gorilla on the side of his plane. He is looking
(24:04):
to create these highlights. And guess why I just gave
him a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You just gave him a chance. Bro. Travis fredericks that
the cowboys ran like a tall sweep, pulled both ends
and the backers got captured, so they got they got
washed inside. So it's two pullers. So I can't even
cut right now. I gotta stand up and try to
send it all back. He must have grabbed me, and
before I knew it, I'm stepping over camera. Man.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
What I tell you what I'll tell you about wearing
these white tea's in the club. No white tea's in
the club.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Get out of here. I had to tell him, Hey,
do not dump me. Do not dumb me, Do not
dumb me. My son is at this game. Not put
me on the even children in this.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He didn't dump me, though, from how respective you know
what I mean, Travis Frederick, you always got a fan
in me.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I turned. I rely on beast mode a one hundred
percent of the time. I'm like, I got two much
pride to fall. There's sometimes you're gonna get got, but
I'm gonna get mine more than i'mna get got right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But see you three hundred and you pushing a lot
of weight.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Man, Man, I'm gonna have to be three hundred soon,
but I'm not. I'm not gonna be there. In fact,
I'm going lighter this year. A you know I'm going lighter.
I've normally played like two eighty five, two ninety. I'm
too chevy five and I'm made you touch two seventy.
I'm going faster. If you need faster than speed of light,
I'm going Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Aaron, I'm going Mike Bennett.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Nah Mike Be had them little ass pad bro. He
was a a c. He was an ac problem waiting
to happen, like I know, his shoulders hurt, like this
is the reason why I might be disappeared for a
while because he probably had to go to reconstructive surgery
on his body. I know he disappeared and did some
like Motherland Graceland type stuff to get his body right
because Mike, like he was Mike Be was wearing your
pads out there.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And with with the with the little shoulder things, cut off.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Shoulders, shoulders out taking on blocks. I said, yeah, noam this,
I need that.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So tell me about this d N summit that they had.
You know, I think that's one of the coolest things.
I know, kid On those guys to tight end you
and all that. And Von, I don't know Vonn.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Starry Von for sure, you know you know what it is.
Von started Uh it was the the past rush camp.
Uh probably twelve years ago, eleven years ago, and then
two years ago he was like, hey, Cam, I want
to make this like huge. I want to make this big.
I want to make this better, like we already have
some guys, you know, fifteen twenty guys show up, we
get working all this other stuff. He's like, oh he's
(26:25):
got I got dreams of this being ours. I was like, man,
you know Von the visionary brings in Max Crosey myself.
You know, between that, we make the past Rush Summit
and we had what like sixty plus guys edge rushers,
d tackles, dns from across the across the league getting working.
So there's there's where there's vision. There's always there's always dreams.
(26:48):
And when dreams come reality, this is great possibilities. Just
talking football. You know the Matt Judon's is the Josh
allens Hines now that you know now he switched up
his last name. Uh, you know, the Brian Burns, Von Miller,
Max Cross myself, you know, big Big Simmons over Tennessee.
There's so many guys in this league show showed up,
(27:08):
showed out and just show shooting ideas off each other.
Uh you got you got something like that, like learning mentalities,
teaching different passors, moves. It's only gonna be beneficial towards you,
you know, and it's just to be around greatness. You're like, bro,
I gotta go get it. That's why I literally was
sitting there like two eighty seven to eighty eight, and
I was like, all these skinny mugs around me, it's
(27:30):
time to see what you're Skinny life talking about. You know,
Vonn and Max ain't nothing but two fifty five with
the backpacks on right right, I said, all right, time
for skinny cam to show up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Got me, y'all, got me no doubt.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I was like, I hit camp. I got like two
sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I was like, yeah, skinny cam here, and they're like
cam three techniques, Like skinny cam can't be here getting
skinny seventy five. Okay. I was like we could, we
were gonna eat again.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Skinny cam gone, go does he have a white shirt on?
Because at the three technique I can probably suffice. I
slid over to the nose one time I'm over the center.
I said, oh no, no, no, no, this skinny cam can't
do this.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, medium cam.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
They be punching, they'd be trying to punch through chests
out there. You can have to make sure all my
blitzes go to the outside.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Look, you could be in that middle and be like,
oh yeah, I'm gonna handle this center expeditiously, and that
guard be like yeah, but what about thieves hands. I
didn't even finish with him, bro, I can't The swipe
won't work if we're already engaged.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Could you just wait one second him real quick?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, let me beat him and I get to you
in a second. I just okay.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
So it's a new life, it's a new realm, and
you know it's a new way of learning. But that's
exciting too. So you go from go from like, nah,
you know who I am to you know what? I
could be dominant anywhere and I fully believe that. So
let's go get it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I love it. I love it, and I love how
much because it seems like everybody's getting a lot out
of that. You know, you giving a lot, you know
I could. I see you giving technique and giving the
game to the young guys, and it's so needed because
you only respect so many people in this league. You know,
you're not about to just sit there and listen to anybody,
even some of these coaches. I'm not about to sit
here and listen to you tell me how to be great.
When when I saw your tape, like don't don't, don't
(29:18):
talk to me about this, I know what Joe tape
looked like, now there's other coaches who never played the
game that got the utmost respect. Y'all, Well, listen to
everything you say because you're so prepared your game plan right,
you put the work in. I know you know what
you're talking about, but when you hear it come from
a player that played at such a high level that
you watched and you always wanted to know, Man, what
(29:38):
ingredients are in that? God dang in that what he
cooking up? Because he did? You watch Vin this week? Man?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
On Thursday, I'll say, well, this last third day, Vonn
is back in action. Bro, the long arms, the ghost moves.
I'll say, he's he's acting up right now acting And
their D line's crazy too, because I mean, you got
you got gotta eat. But I always mess up his name.
You got epiness over there. You got young bull that
(30:07):
who just got paid from UH. I was like, they're there,
They're D line in general is on.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Federaly, federaly and he if he's back.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, and he I was like, clearly he's back in
full force out there timing katus is jumping. I was like, Bro,
it's the fact that his first three steps is still
elite like, it's crazy to see.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Bro. I was sitting there, we were in the green
room watching it, and we're like, it was like a
third and goal from like the sixth or seven, and
they didn't have no choice and they were trying to
get to the line and they had to pass it.
I said, Oh, this is a Von Sach like, y'all,
y'all not gonna double county right here. It was a
third and eleven right before the half where I thought
he was gonna go do it. But I think they
ran the screen or something. But I was like, this
(30:49):
is a he if he jumps off side, it's not
gonna matter. So he's definitely gonna jump this one fact.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Fact, it's his his his knowledge of the game just
allows him to jump. And like he'll tell you like
I'm gonna jump this coup like you can see it
in his dance. I'm like, oh, he's jumping this.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Okay, go okay, okay, Bro, If you just think about
that class, that twenty eleven draft class, like you went
twenty fourth, and I know if they redrafted you would
you would be top five, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
But would I look right if we if we drafted
top fifteen?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, give me your redraft, give me your give me
your top top fifteen.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Out of out of ours.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You're gonna have Cam Newton still at one, You're gonna
have Vonnit two, You're gonna have marcell Darius at three.
Still you know you're you're you're gonna have are you
probably gonna say Julio or Pat p and you know
that's that's yeah, pat P at four, Julio at five,
AJ at six would probably be the switch up.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Then, right, you know what, then you got Tyron. It's
like you still want Tyrannt in your top ten.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
So you're gonna say Tyron, and you're gonna have to
include jj Watt and you're gonna you go to have
to probably include you know, a Smith because he was
the fastest to forty five sacks ever, so you weren't wrong,
you just you know, like, so there's your ten and
then you know, I'm gonna throw myself hopefully in there
at around ten eleven ish, and then there's still Ryan Carrigan,
and then there's Robert Quinn and like you couldn't Cam Hayward,
(32:18):
like you couldn't miss if you say top fifteen, right,
you were one of the pouncy brothers. You know, we
had one of the pouncy brothers out there. Like then
you throw in Justin Houston, Richard Sherman. We're already at twenty.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Like you forget Jason Kelcey, like and he's getting silly.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's real. I don't know if there's
a redraft possibility. I mean, what you'd rather do is
have Cam Newton as as the only quarterback in that
draft class and then you take out the other two
quarterbacks and insert somebody, because out of that top ten,
that's all only the ones. You'd be like, ah, we
could have done.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Better, all right, the quarterbacks? What was it? We had
Blaine Saye.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And Christian Christian Ponder and.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Ponder and Ja and Jake. Yeah we could We could
have done without them. You could have on without.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
In the first round. You know, we could have slid it.
You know, I would have took out Jake and put
in Andy Dalton, you know, like and.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You would have been fine. Andy had a heck of
a career. And speaking of that, I mean he starting again,
starting again, and people this is what I don't think
people understand about the league, Like there are quality quarterbacks
not starting in this league because you have to draft
these guys and give the fans hope. But Andy Dalton
was a better quarterback since Bryce Young got there, and
(33:27):
it's still the better quarterback today because he's a pro quarterback.
He can drop back and read a defense, get the
ball where it's supposed to get, throw for three hundred yards,
execute your offense. And you know, will he occasionally turn
the ball over a little bit more sure? But can
he gets you in a position that you have a
chance where you feel like, going into this game, I
have a chance to win, no question facts.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Anyways, Wait, I gotta go about.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
To run, all right, But appreciate you. I appreciate you
joining me and great to peace. Peace. The volume
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