September 20, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin gives his Blazin' 5 NFL picks for the weekend
Former NFL HC Eric Mangini joins The Herd to talk about the Patriots loss to the Jets and if New England is handling Drake Maye the right way
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go our number two on a Friday,
Blazing five and a couple of minutes. We've got Brian Baldinger.
Last hour, we got Eric Mangini. Jordan Sltz will stop
by in studio. He's got a lot of things heading
into the weekends, like information Friday right, he's trying to
get a little little idea on your fantasy teams, on
your bets for the weekend. Jamac is you well known.
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I try to stay out of the emotion business. I
try to see clearly, and I do think Week one
you have no idea what's gonna happen. It's an extension
of preseason. Week two, you get a little more reality
mixed in. You kind of see teams that have major
flaws and teams that have major straints. But week three,
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Week three, like I will feel after this week, I
know what I have now. Teams will get injury plagued
teams will get better, Younger teams get better. We know
that to be true, but I do feel when you
got three games in the books, you start getting a
little separation.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, I wonder was the Jets Patriots last at a
precursor to Week three, these are what.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We expected the teams to beat.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The call the Jets pretty good defensively and Eric Rodgers
healthy boom, Patriots garbage.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When we looked at the Jets schedule in August, we
said the easiest win of the year in August was
last night Patriots short week, terrible roster. But again week one.
Every year you see this New England beat Cincy and
I'm thinking, yesterday, hey, why is this line six? I
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don't understand it? And I left the show and somebody
text me and said, bad team, short week on the road.
It's it's six. Is the appropriate line instead of three
to three and a half? If if in most instances
that they played on Sunday, it would be Jets favored
by three and a half to four, but it was six.
So this week it's a little more realistic. I do
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think teams.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The underdogs this week are tasty. I think we're giving underdogs.
I like underdogs this week, but that doesn't mean reality
is different. I'm just gonna do some underdogs. So you're
ready to go to the Blazing five. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Let's blaze it up enough. It's Collins Blazing Five, sponsored
by Draft Kicks.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Giantsid Brown's six and a half points is too many.
Cleveland's got fourteen players on the injury list this week,
and really good players. It's the Giants o lines playing well.
Daniel Jones has protection. They did not allow a touchdown
in the loss of the Commanders. Jake Jack Conklin's out,
David In, Djoku, Miles Garrett, Zadaria Smith, Denzel Ward. Cleveland's
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banged up. Their offense is twenty eighth in the league.
Deshaun Watson's completing fifty eight percent of his throws, and
they're one of two defenses without a takeaway this year.
But it's really about Deshaun Watson. How much better than
Daniel Jones is he this year? I'm not sure he is.
Six and a half is way too many points. This
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Cleveland team's a fraud. Giants win it take the points
twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Broncos it Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I like the Bucks, not six and a half points.
I'm taking Denver plus six and a half points. Listen to.
Broncos are a really desperate team and they've got talent,
but this is about the Bucks. They were out gained
by Detroit by two hundred and fifty yards. They were
two for ten on third down. Baker Mayfield got sacked
five times. I like Tampa, I don't like them that much.
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Their defense is missing Vida via Antonio Winfield. It's all
beat up again. A desperate team, whether or not a factor.
You're not facing the Steelers defense now. This is the
weakest defense Denver wolf face bow Nicks will have time
to throw. And the Bucks defense this year has been bad.
It's just not a very good defense. The Broncos are
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gonna cover here. I'm gonna take the Bucks to win
in a late field goal, but that I'm taking six
and a half all day long with this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Dolphins aid Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, I'm gonna take a favorite. I don't get the line.
I'm gonna take Seattle at home minus four and a half.
Skyler Thompson completes fifty percent of his throws. This story
is about Seattle. We talked Geno Smith. That's not the story.
It's their new defensive coach from Baltimore. Seattle has the
highest wedded defense in the league according to PFF. It
was near the bottom last year with the same dudes.
They're allowing four yards of play, second best in the NFL.
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Opposing quarterbacks have a sixty one passer rating against the Seahawks.
It's not about Geno Smith and DK Metcalf. This is
an excellent defense. Skyler Thompson, what are we doing here?
He has a sixty passer rader. I don't understand the line,
and Miami never feels the same when they travel or
go up north or go out west. I'm gonna take
the Seahawks to win. I'm gonna swallow the points twenty
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eight to seventeen. They will shut down. Skyler Thompson. In
the Pacific Northwest Chief said Falcons. Here's my upset of
the week. I think Atlanta's a good team. I told
Philadelphia fans when the Falcons beat you, take a deep breath.
Atlanta's a good football team. They're gonna win their division,
win eleven twelve games. I'm gonna take the Falcons plus
three points. They had no turnovers in six point six
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yards of play with Kirk Cousins, It's one of the
best old lines. Excellent running back room, could be the
best running back room in the league, by the way,
twenty to twenty nine against the Eagles, Kirk Cousins moved
better Kansas City first road game, Mahomes first couple of weeks,
worse than passing yards in turnovers, and Kirk Cousins had
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this reputation bad in primetime. No, he's not last four
primetime games. He's completing seventy five percent of his throws.
There's gonna be an upset this weekend. I think it's close.
I think it looks like the Philadelphia game. And I
think I think Atlanta at home wins this game. I
know I know Colin stay away from Atlanta. I know
I know my ATM receipts would tell me stay away
from Atlanta. I like him in this flot.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Jaguars It Bills.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Jaguars are not a terrible team. Okay, They're gonna play well.
Five points against Buffalo. They're zero to two the season.
On the line for Jacksonville. Greg Cosel told us yesterday,
Trevor Lawrence is good. He's tall, he moves well, he
throws well. They got off to a slow start. That
Trevor Lawrence is completing fifty one percent of his throws.
You really think that's what he is. No, that's not
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what he is. They've had twelve plays this year of
twenty or more yards. That's tied for the most in Elite.
The Jaguars offense is a big playoffense. They'll be fine.
Bills major injuries, Matt Mulano out, his backups hurt. They
have a linebacker in the corner that may not play.
Trevor Lawrence in primetime games has actually eight touchdowns no picksmen. Okay,
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I like Buffalo, but five points feels like way too
much for an explosive offense. They're dinged up on the
defensive side. Jags win twenty six, twenty four. Remember we
thought the Jags last year before Trevor Lawrence got banged up,
they looked like a playoff team. The year before they
were a playoff team. They're not terrible. They're not They're
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going to be very competitive. These teams are much closer
than you think. Twenty six to twenty four. Take the points.
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I'm taking a lot of points this weekend. I think
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the market's a little crazy. I like a lot of underdogs.
I like Jacksonville as an underdog. I like the Giants
is an underdog, like the Denver Broncos as an underdog.
I'm taking four underdogs and the Seahawks to cover at
home against the Dolphins. J Mack any reaction to that,
don't don't love.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
What I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I do like that you're fading the Bills and Dolphins.
Don't mean the Jets all alone in first place.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But yeah, I know, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I don't know about the giant Daniel Jones against the
Jim Schwartz defense. I'm looking at the injury report for
the Browns. We'll see what becomes official later today.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Mile Garrett. If Mile Garrett is out, that's a great call.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Giants offense at line, it's great at left tackle and
has played very good this year. The Giants on line
has played if Miles Garrett does not play, Daniel Jones
and that receiving core now that neighbors is the one
and everybody slides back a slot, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
They played the Vikings and the and Washington. You know
there's a big step up the Brown Miles Garrett, I
do like the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Pay by the way, I'm riding with you on that one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
All right, let's go to Eric Mangini, Jets Brown's head
coach Fox Sports. So I said this, the Jets have
been for about a decade eight nine years, have been
so bad at quarterback that there's no reason for me
to be cynical or snarky. Last night looked like Mona Lisa.
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That's if you go to the last eight years, that
was one of the great nights of quarterback play. I
don't know if it's long lasting. The schedule gets tougher,
but I thought that looked like a highly functional offense
and Aaron was comfortable. That was my take yours.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yeah, this is the Aaron Rodgers that I expected them
to have last year before he got hurt, and this
is this is the potential with Aaron Rodgers. And you
look at what they've been able to do this year.
What's at three touchdowns and three straight games. They had
one game all last season where they had three touchdownds.
He looked, he looked poised, His movement was very good.
(09:56):
It looks like he's got a report now with the
wide receivers when he's changed he plays at the line
of scrimmage that that's really positive. And we can ding
the Patriots. But the Patriots, they upset the Bengals. They're
ahead of the Seahawks for fifty nine minutes. They've played
pretty well coming into this game, and the Jets just dominated.
And when Aaron plays well, it makes everybody else play better.
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They gives them something that they didn't really have all
last season, which.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Was hope the entire game.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
They know that they can play with anybody as long
as Aaron's playing. You know, he doesn't always have to
play this well, but if he plays to some semblance
of it, it's it's so much higher than what they've
been playing with, you know, for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, you know, New York WFA and Radio today
people are talking super Bowl. This is the way it
is when you were the Jets coach. Even Robert Sala
last night's getting all worked up, and Aaron Rodgers is like,
chill out, dude, chill out. It's it's week three, it's
the Patriots were home. Did you feel like after big
wins when you were the Jets coach, sometimes you had
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to temper things, talk radio, newspapers, Fans go nuts. You
know when you're when you don't have any water in
the desert and you get a bottle of water, it's
the greatest thing of all time. I could see the
Jets getting over their skis here or is that not
an issue?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely an issue. And then that's another
positive of having Aaron Rodgers around and even saw it
with the hug or non hug or whatever you want
to call that on the sideline. He'll do a good
job of tempering everybody's enthusiasm, not to the point where
where he's discouraging them being confident, but you understand that
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it's a it's a long season and you can go
into you know, one or two game streaks, but but
they haven't had again, a lot of hope for a
long time. So now seeing what this potentially could be,
and and it's it's with an asterisk. Who knows how
bad New England's gonna end up being, but that glimmer
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of hope. They've been so desperate for it for so
long that that's going to get blown up. And then
you've got to you got to make sure guys aren't
going on the radio or on podcasts or in interviews
and talking about how great they are before they actually
do something of any significance.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Listen, some of these young quarterbacks play like Bryce Young
and I don't see anything. Some like Anthony Richardson, I
see talent, but he's struggling with the layups and stuff
out in the flat. I see a power arm. With Caleb,
I see great mobility. My bigger issue is on the
offensive coordinator. What are you? They're not running the ball.
I don't know what they are now. Some of that
Keenan Allen's a veteran receiver, a really dependable third down guy,
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and they miss him. DJ Moores will over the top.
But my takeaway is when I watch Caleb, I'm like,
can you just give me a semblance of a run game?
Give him a do him a favor here. That's what
I want to see is be something. It's not intermural
like be something. What are you? What's yourn?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You sound a little bit like Nick Wright, where where
there's a lot of excuses for Hawaii he's not playing
well and and and it's one of those things where
he can he needs to control the things that he
can control. And they've had a bunch of priests in
net penalties, whether it's false starts to lay of games,
illegal formation, things like that.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
A lot of those are on the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
That's cadence, that's understanding where guys are supposed to be.
That's something that's inherently in his control. And you and
I talked about this a lot leading up to the season.
Don't don't start with not losing the game. You don't
have to try to make a great play every play
and extend and extend it and take an eighteen yard sack.
And now it's killing drives, it's killing field position. So
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it's that it's the interceptions. And you look at you
look at what Jayden Daniels is doing in Washington. He's
at seventy five percent completion, he's at I think in
ninety six ninety seven quarterback rating, he scored two touchdowns
running the ball. He hadn't scored any throwing the ball,
but he hasn't turned the ball over. He's giving him
ache to compete in every game. And and Caleb is
gonna get better. And he's incredibly talented. But control the
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stuff that you can control. And and and offensively, I
promise you, I promise you. They are doing everything in
their power to make him look good and make him
be successful. There is no greater mission in Chicago than that.
So he's got to take some accountability with that too,
And and and not lose games. Start start start there,
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and we'll see his talent and he'll continue to get better.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know what's amazing, Jim Harball, with the same defensive players,
they use their draft picks to get a receiver and
a tackle. Their top draft picks, same defensive players are
the best defense in the league statistically from the worst.
Is it schematics? You know, Harball, You've been in the
room with Hartball. He literally took the worst defense in
the league. And then they now look hard nosed. They're
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a hard, power running team. What is his what is
the genius here.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Well, he walks into the building and he has something
that that you know they haven't had there for a while.
It's instant legitimacy. Everybody knows wherever he's been he's won.
Comes off winning the national championship. So the guys understand,
if we listen to him, if we do the things
he's asking us to do, then we've got a pretty
good shot of winning. So that's a big step. Then
you win the first two games that that reinforces the legitimacy,
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and then there's authenticity. He is who he is, and
he talks about loving football.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
And and I there's nobody I've.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Been around that's more sincere in making that statement than
Jim Harbaugh. And this is a long season that you're
asking a lot from guys, and that that love that
he has the football, it's it's contagious and it affects
It affects the players, it affects the room. And then
the other thing that he's different and better than a
lot of guys I've been around. Maybe the best is
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his willingness to try new things, his openness to new ideas,
his openness to.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Bucking the norms.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
And if the whole league is passing all the time,
and he wants to run it all the time. He's
gonna do it if they want to try. Whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
His thing was.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Always when I was in San Francisco with him, we're
the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
We can do whatever we want.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
And I'm sure he's saying the same thing with the charges,
with the LA charges, we can do anything we want.
And that openness and willing to push the envelope and
not have this conventional wisdom that has a really positive
effect as well.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So you know this in the NFL, this is not college.
The margins are very even the best and worst teams.
Jacksonville's zero and two going to Buffalo, Buffalo's two and zero.
If Jacksonville won, you would not be surprised at all.
Nobody would. That's the NFL. And I you know, so
when I look at Dallas, I could say to myself, well,
Kansas City got blown out by Denver last year, and
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San Francisco got blown out twice once so I Baltimore
and once by Cincinnati. Everybody in this league gets Tom
Brady had horrible Sundays. I can remember one time he
threw like four interceptions at Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, So when I look at the Cowboys and the Ravens,
it happens. You had a bad game at Cleveland, one
that they got blown out at Cleveland and Cleveland won't
even good. I think it was the Peyton hillis years.
He gets crushed, and so my take is.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
A way to go, thanks Colin, you good job.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I remember that again, you crushed Tommy. So do I
look at the Cowboys and go, hey, the Saints caught
everybody flat footed. We didn't talk about Clint kobyac their
offense caught everybody flat footed. This team blew out Cleveland.
They're gonna beat Baltimore. I mean, that's my take is
that I want to this game will decide what they are.
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I don't want to. I don't want to look at
the Saints game and go they're terrible. What do you
make of Baltimore Dallas this weekend?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well, here's what I don't love about Dallas.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
This is too games in a row if you include
the playoff game where they lost at home, and whether
they won sixteen straight prior to prior to Green Bay
and sixteen regular season straight straight regular season games so
now we're looking at the potential of losing three straight
home games, which would be amazing. They had some some
periods up and down last year. It looks like that
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could be the team we're facing or seeing again this year.
And the last time they started one and two, you know,
if they end up losing, they ended up finishing six,
six and ten. I don't love the comments by Micah
Parsons where he's saying not everybody was giving one hundred
percent effort. That's a real concern when we're talking about
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week two of the season and you're you're home opener.
That that's problematic. And what I'm looking for out of
Dallas is not just what they do offensively, but how
quickly can they fix the problems that they have and
very different approach defensively than what they had with Dan Quinn.
And how do these guys respond to the fixes and
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how quickly do they have the fixes?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah? All right, By the way, would you have last
night the Patriots trotted out Drake May and he got
the you know what kicked out of him? Would you
have done that?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
It's a matter of time before Drake May is starting
in New England and I'm sure, what did Jacoby have?
He had ninety eight yards passing, and yeah he was
getting beat up. But you want to give Drake some
opportunities because I don't know if it's one week from now,
two weeks from now, three weeks from now, but he's.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Going to be starting.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
So if you can get him in there a little bit,
not ideal conditions where he as what he had four
completions and two sacks, not great, but you are trying
to get him some experience before he ends up starting,
which I'm sure is not too far on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Eric Mangini, how about that. I recalled Browns with Peyton
Hill as crushing Tom Brady, and I remember it well,
it was. I think it was. It was a very
sunny day and you beat the you know what out
of them.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I remember that, Yeah, it was. It was. It was
a good win and it was a great story. If
you just left out they weren't very good, it would
have been a great story.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Good seeing you coach seek all right?
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Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, I'm sure everybody's as excited as I am about
Aaron Rodgers looking particularly great last night. I met life
two hundred and eighty one yards, two touchdowns. Just look
like the young Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We expected.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills quarterback, made an appearance on
the facility today and had this to say about Rogers' performance.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I'm just happy he's playing football again. I mean, I
think this isn't a crazy statement, but he's probably the
most gifted thrower of the football of all time. I
watched the game last night. I woke up this morning,
I watched the All twenty two because I just I
love watching him play. If I can incorporate anything that
he does into my game, obviously, I think that's gonna
make me a better football player. But he you know,
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he's awesome.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
I do.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I love the guy. I've spent a lot of time
around him. Yeah, and he's playing good Football's sending there
right now.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's a nice thing to say anything.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I just remember he's ramping up because in Week one
he did not look this sharp other than one drive
against Sant frank Week two he started to emerge in
the second half, and then Week three against what's a
pretty good Patriots defense. Now, the one thing, if you
look at the passing chart I posted this on my Instagram,
Rogers did not throw the ball down the field more
than twenty yards once.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh, I still think he has trust issues.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, I think they were also taking what the defense
gives him. We've heard a lot about the too high
shell that we've been talking about on the show for
a couple of years. Now, that's what the Patriots are playing.
Rogers is like, I'm not forcing anything. I got my
tight end here, I got this guy, Garrett Wilson. Colin
had six catches for thirty three yards and his longest
reception was nine yards. Rogers is not making taking any gambles,
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nothing risky.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I love to see that Colin.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Now, they were playing from a head the entire way,
which makes it a little easier but.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
What Aaron's always been a great front runner. He's great
with a leader. Comfortable. That's always been as well. He's not.
Aaron has a bizarrely low number of come from behind
wins in the second half in his career. He's always
been when Aaron's comfortable and Aaron's feeling it, he plays
with a lot of confidence. When he plays with a lead,
Aaron plays downhill as well as anybody. Dak does this
a lot. Yeah, Dak is also he is great with
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the leads.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
But the opposite is true, right, Dak is not good
coming from behind?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Is he? And Mahomes is great coming from Belamar Stafford
is great coming from some quarterbacks.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Baker Mayfield's one of those guys. Baker's great with a lead.
When Baker has confidence, he is feeling it, Baker is great.
Baker gets in a hole, he can get a little desperate.
He question his judgment, Baker makes mistakes. Everybody's different. Aaron,
for his talent, has never quite been as good fourth
quarter playing from behind. The numbers tell you as you'd
expect Will Levis.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If they take it a ten point lead, you might
want to hit the in game bet on the other side.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, he's going to choke it away.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Next up is the Niners. This injury reports killing me Colins.
This is my first bet of the week Sunday Night
on the Niners. And now in addition to no Christian McCaffrey,
it's Deebo Samuel's out and it's starting to look like.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
George Kittle as well hamstring injury.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Trent Williams somehow thinks this is a good thing for
San Francisco.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
It's ups. You know, those guys are the best in
the world. But you know who really feels harrd for
you know, so it's next man of league. You know,
it's a couple of guys that we want to see
get get more accent anyway, So you know, hated had
to come on the heels of somebody being injured. But
you know, this is when opportunities prevent themselves. You know,
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it's a blessing in disguise, and Gods, it's got to
be raised, step up and relish.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
In the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, I mean, Jordan Mason looked very good in the
backup spot. Now he's not Christian McCaffery, but there is
I will say the backup complied that the The one
thing you do look at is the Rams come in
all dinged up as well. So if you're not playing
a healthy team that's on fire, you're playing a banged
up Rams team. So it's it's that makes your injuries
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more palatable. And I also think the backup offensive players
for the Niners are better than the backup offensive player
for the Rams. Rams wide receiving group this weekend is.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It's it's brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm more curious defensively because you yours, you seem to.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Be making a big deal out of rock party, you know,
uh and the weapons he has, so you know, Historically,
the Rams under Raheem Morris had played a lot of
zone and Morris has taken that to Atlanta. It looks
like they're playing the little more zone than man this year.
Debo usually eats up zones. He can just get in
the middle of fine spots and kill as well. I
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don't know what they're gonna do offensively, Like I know
a Yuku is a good receiver, but like after that Colin,
remember Pierce all is the kid who got shot.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
He's not playing.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's like Jennings and.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Then I don't know what kind of depth they have
and if they're gonna be able to handle this Rams defense,
which isn't good. But I mean there's a world where
San Frank kind of loses this game. The line is
coming down money on the Rams.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What's the line now? Six and a half?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It was seven and a half and I you know, to.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Me, if you have six good players out of the game,
I'm just staying away. How I feel about the Packers
and a.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Divisional matchup, the familiarities there no that stinks, by the way,
that we need our guys healthy in this league. One
of the reasons scoring could be down. So many good
offensive players have been hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's not great.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
There's a lot of reasons why scoring is down.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You're right there are.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Final story is just in fields to and oh how
about it? Stealers looking good. Russell Wilson's been sideline with
the calf injury. The fields is starting against the Chargers. However,
Russ is starting to practice more and feels like he's
getting closer to a return.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm definitely gaining ground. I feel feel good.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
I was able to do a little lot more work
today yesterday, so getting.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Better every day.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I'm doing everything I can.
Speaker 11 (26:35):
You know, physically every day, every morning, every night, just
to make sure that I can be ready to go.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
And uh, you know, we'll know where I'm ready and
getting close.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Now we have a whole plan.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
You know, we're following the plan. I want to get
to the details of the plan, but we're we're following that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And uh yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
I think I got a lot of work to end today,
which is great. So that was that was a really
good thing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, he smiled when he said, we're following the plan.
So the plan means when he's healthy, he'll play.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
So this is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So if they're able to beat the Chargers Colin, next
up is the Colts. Their defense is a joke, the
worst run defense in the league through two games. Fields
ain't losing to the Colts, I don't think, right. So
now you're looking at maybe four and oh going into
that primetime matchup against the Cowboys October sixth, and it's like, well, shucks, Russell.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Wilson, this could be slipping away pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And he meant, well, he just said, we have a plan,
he smiled, And I'm not telling you the plan. Do
you think, Tomlin, if the field is three and ale,
if the plan was Justin's team going forward. I mean
if I said to you, if you asked me, hey, Colin,
how are things going at the volume and I said, well,
we've got a plan, and I smiled, I'm probably not
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filing for chapter seventy. Russell Wilson smiled, he said, we've
got a plan.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
No I am, But I mean, I think he's just
trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Collington, he is very positive.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
A lot of questions in audio and video of a
backup quarterback who's injured talking, Why is the media grilling him?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Where's fields they got to start talking about?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Got a game ball this week?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Who Russell Wilson did for wearing eye black and shoulder
pads active on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm not bringing that level of cynicism to the herd today.
It's a very positive day, Aaron no I said with Aaron.
Today is not a day to be cynical. It's a
it's a day to go, you know, as the best
quarterback day in the city of New York in nine years,
it was you watch New York. Here's something you never
see competent quarterback play in New York on a standalone gamezing.
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I'm just being honest a cynicism. I threw that thing
off the set an hour ago, off the set. Are
you done?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by her.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Maybe I'm defending Russell Wilson because people have a habit
of just kicking the old guy to the curb, and
the old guy is still got a couple of fastballs
in it.
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Speaker 1 (30:09):
All right, Jordan Schultz Fox Sports, NFL on side or
he'll be on Speak later today. There's a bunch of
stuff to talk about. So the big shocking move this
week it's a program a franchise we don't talk about.
But Bryce Young got benched in week two, so obviously
he's upset. My take is it may have come from upstairs.
Owners are impulsive. Carson Wentz had a great year in Indie.
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Jim Ersey wanted him out Chris Fowler moved off. It's
not always the coaches say. In fact, a lot of
times some of these new owners too. They're not old
school like the Steelers. They let the coach the GM
run it. So, Jordan Bryce Harper, what is the fallout
from benching him this early?
Speaker 11 (30:46):
First of all two games eighteen total for his career
is not a big enough sample size. I don't care
who you are. Now, I've asked around a few different
personnel people, coaches, what happen if you put your quarterback
in that system? You know what they say, he would
struggle because no quarterback is set up to win there.
What they mortgaged in that deal with Chicago to get
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the number one pick was a dearth now of talent,
a wide receiver, at tight end, at offensive line, these
marquee positions for any young quarterback to succeed. Now, it
wouldn't surprise me at all, Colin, based on what I've
been told over the last few days. If Rice Young
were to say I won out and I think he
should one out, I would make the argument that no
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quarterback in the league would have success there, including a
Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
That's how bad. It is.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
And if you think about the history of quarterbacks within
the Carolina Panthers franchise under this ownership group, Matt Corral
did not do very well, Sam Donald, Teddy Bridge, Baker Mayfield.
These guys don't have success. And at some point you
have to know everywhere, absolutely your guy Sam Darnold has
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looked awesome in Minnesota so far.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Look at Baker Mayfield, just got paid.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
The bottom line, if you're David Tepper and you're the Panthers,
you have to sit back home, in my opinion, and say, look,
we are the problem. Because Bryce Young was the number
one pick for a reason. He probably would have gone
one or two even if Houston.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Had the whatever.
Speaker 11 (32:14):
This is a team that is not built to win now.
It's a roster that has just holes everywhere, and I
think they have put him in a really tough position.
And if again, if I'm Bryce Young, I'm looking out
and I'm saying I can't succeed here.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Jordan Love, how serious is the injury? Is it possible
the young quarterback for the Green Bay Packers actually will play?
Are they going to arrest him for big divisional games?
Down the road.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
They're going to take this all the way up the
game time. But I think they saw a game last week.
Malik Willis is someone that they can run the ball with. Yes,
he can do all that naked boot stuff you saw
last week. Jacobs had over thirty carries. I think if
you were to ask Green Bay a couple of weeks ago,
when Jordan Love got hurt, if we can get him
back in two would you take that, the answer is
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absolutely yes. Ten times out of ten. They thought this
could potentially be an ir situation. So for Green Bay
it's not worth, in my opinion, risking it with Jordan Love.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
If you can get him.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Back in another week, you can go one in one
or two and zero, and this division may not be
the gatlet we thought.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Minnesota looks good, but Detroit.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Strategy Detroit Arizona road game this week is tom.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Absolutely so listen. If I'm Green Bay, I'm I'm thinking
about January. If I'm at Lafleir, I'm not thinking about September, October, November,
I'm thinking about the playoffs. Let's make sure we get
our guy who we just paid fifty five million dollars healthy.
When it really matters.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Jordan Schultz, Fox Sports NFL Insider. Is there a team
that maybe we didn't have high expectations for that you're
buying into right now.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
You just said to Arizona, this is the Kyler Murray
that we all wanted to see, and now we're seeing it.
He's twenty six years old. I don't know if it
was Jonathan Ganner, Drew Petsking Noci who said this week
he still has the athleticism, but now he has the mind,
now he has the maturity. He's making great decisions. This
version of Kyler Murray Collin this is the number one pick,
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This was the Heisman winner. He is so accurate now
and it's there's something I want to say about Kyler.
He got a lot of criticism over the last year
and a half, and maybe some of it was Rifley,
so he wasn't mature enough. He was about himself, whatever
you want to say. But what we're seeing now from
Kyler is a franchise quarterback. And what Arizona has done,
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to their credit is surround him with talent. They had
the best young tight end in football and Trey McBride.
He's terrific, fantastic former Mackie Award winner for Colorado State game.
You know, then they add Marvin Harrison, a bona fide
number one.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He looked great last week.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
He had one hundred and thirty yards in the first quarter.
Marvin Harrison Senior, a Hall of Famer, never had more
than one hundred and ten in a quarter. That's how
good he is. They have a physical running game. Honors
are really nice running nice running back. They drafted Trade Benson,
rookie out of four at State. Got some juice. This
is a team I liked going.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
Into this season.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
They almost be Buffalo week one, yep at Orchard Park.
Then they come back and hammer the Rams. Now they
got Detroit. Really good matchup.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
With Destroit's not quite right.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
They're not quite right. I agree.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
And then I also like Seattle would say in that
division and say I think Seattle's going to unleash a
little bit more with Ryan Grubb, the OC Gino Smith.
They're getting JSN involved DK Metcalf when Kenneth Walker's right,
that's a really good one two punch as well in
the backfield.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I like both those teams.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The NFC West Okay, have your sources have expectations changed
a little for Caleb Williams and the Bears after the start.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
No, and I'll tell you why, because when they drafted Caleb,
they knew that, like any young quarterback, even one as
talented as he, it was going to take time.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I want your show yesterday.
Speaker 11 (35:42):
It was great with Jordan Palmer and he said something
I thought was really interesting. The plays that Caleb Williams
made last year on his Heisman winning or two years
ago that reel with USC those plays are now sacks.
Those rollout you know, flick a downfield maybe you know
roll out, run back around reverse, those were great plays
in college. Now they're sacks. He's going to have to
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find a way to minimize the damage. But also they've
had Keenan Allen hurt, They've had Romo Dunes they hurt.
It's still offensive line that's young. I think they're going
to open it up more. But this is what happens
with young quarterbacks. It's very very rare that a rookie,
even number one overall pick, can come in and have
great success right away. I think they're going to have
a successful offensive season, but it is going to take
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some time.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Well. Also, starting offensive linemen not only do quarterbacks not
play a lot in the preseason. Starting offensive lineman dote
and offense is about rhythm, yes, and offensive lines are
about cohesion. So the defenses have been ahead of the
offense so far.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
And nobody practices anymore, or nobody plays anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
There's no padded practices in the preseason.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (36:46):
Can we talk about the Jets though? Okay, so let's
go back to the Jet now. Look at j Mack
and I knew he was waiting for that. I said
that I had no cynicism. It was a great quarterback performance,
standalone game. Let's give the Jets some love. Absolutely, congratulations
Jay Mack. What a moment for you. What did you
make of it?
Speaker 11 (37:05):
And you ended up taking the Jets last night on
the spread? I saw you you like New England, and
then you said I.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Can't figure out the spread. And I got off the show.
And a buddy who gambles a lot said, short week,
bad team on the road against Aaron Rodgers first home game,
starting the entire game. That's why the line six not
three three and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I think road.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
I think to ten.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
The last twelve ats for teams on the road coming
off an overtime game you think about the rookie head coach.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
But here's what I'll say about the Jets.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
We talk about Aaron Rodgers changing the perception of the franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
This is it.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
They had back to back scoring drives two times in
one game. They had not had that last season more
than two times. So they equal that in the same game.
This is the Jets that we wanted to see. Aaron
Rodgers was phenomenal. Now, I know New England's not a
juggernaut defensively, but this is the cohesion I saw with
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Garrett Wilson. It was the back shoulder in the first
half that was incomplete where he throws him open. It
was Alan Lazard checking out of the run play saying
that's that's my guy.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
I trust him. From Green Bay.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
It's the running game with Braylan Allen and breisall It's
the offensive line. I just reported about thirty minutes ago,
Morgan Moses only out two to three weeks. They had
him horrible, horrible, big time news from Morgan Moses veteran
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Two weeks.
Speaker 11 (38:21):
I think that'll be it, so certainly not I are
They thought it might be eight.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Weeks they thought it might be the whole season. So
that's great news.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
And I just thought this is the rhythm too, from
a perspective of it's not just the receivers, it's the
tight end. They had Jack Conklin, Tyler Conklin on the seams,
they had Mike Williams making plays, it was Garrett Wilson.
It was just this is a beautiful thing if you're
a Jets fan. And also they had fourteen first downs
almost through the half. They hadn't had any of that
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type of experience last year. It was such a struggle
with Zach Wilson in the offensive line. So I know
it's three games, but finally, if you're a Jet fan,
you can smile.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
That was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
For fantasy football football players, men and women. George Kittle,
what's the latest.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
It's not just Kittle, it's McCaffrey, it's Deebo.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So all three out.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
So McCaffrey, I.
Speaker 11 (39:13):
Was told, could potentially miss more than just the four
weeks on IR with that tendonitis in his calf. Kittle,
I think is is going to be very close. And
I think Deebo so I listen, I'm not a fantasy
football expert, but I wouldn't play either one of those
guys this week, just knowing what they're dealing with, and
justin Herbert also dealing with something. I think he's going
to try to play for the Chargers. I think it's
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against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Rat heavily wrapped up.
Speaker 11 (39:37):
But I was told last night this is a specifically
a pain tolerance thing. He's basically got the whole tape
on his ankle.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So it's all pain tolerance.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
It's probably gonna nag him throughout the season. I think
he will play, but this is certainly something in a monitor,
because when you're a big guy like Herbert who needs
to be mobile and you can't, then suddenly it's an issue.
So but again with Kittle, McCaffrey, Samuel is a real thing.
And I think also if you're the Niners, you're looking
at it future and you're saying to brock Purty in
the offseason, Colin.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
How do you how did you do without all your weapons?
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Because eventually all these guys aren't gonna be They're not
gonna be able to pay everyone. So I think brock
Purty is going to get paid next next summer, big time.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Money.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
But if you're the forty nine ers, you're evaluating this
based on what happens now without all the weapons in
full throttle.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Jordan Schultz, who lives over in Connecticut, is is your
neighborhood more Jets or Giants?
Speaker 8 (40:29):
It's all GNN. It's all genius, so, you know, not
great for the for the GMUS.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's It's funny. When I lived near New York, strangely,
all the people around me were Giants fans, and uh,
it was a Giant Yankees neighborhood I was in.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yeah, it's all Giants, Yankees Rangers.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
So sorry it's j Max, but hey, the Jets.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Green Max. I'm happy for you, man. You deserve it.
You deserve it, and I wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He deserves it. He's been through a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
In Great CNU Hour three coming up next
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, here we go our number two on a Friday,
Blazing five and a couple of minutes. We've got Brian Baldinger.
Last hour, we got Eric Mangini. Jordan Sltz will stop
by in studio. He's got a lot of things heading
into the weekends, like information Friday right, he's trying to
get a little little idea on your fantasy teams, on
your bets for the weekend. Jamac is you well known.
(00:49):
I try to stay out of the emotion business. I
try to see clearly, and I do think Week one
you have no idea what's gonna happen. It's an extension
of preseason. Week two, you get a little more reality
mixed in. You kind of see teams that have major
flaws and teams that have major straints. But week three,
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Week three, like I will feel after this week, I
know what I have now. Teams will get injury plagued
teams will get better, Younger teams get better. We know
that to be true, but I do feel when you
got three games in the books, you start getting a
little separation.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, I wonder was the Jets Patriots last at a
precursor to Week three, these are what.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
We expected the teams to beat.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The call the Jets pretty good defensively and Eric Rodgers
healthy boom, Patriots garbage.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When we looked at the Jets schedule in August, we
said the easiest win of the year in August was
last night Patriots short week, terrible roster. But again week one.
Every year you see this New England beat Cincy and
I'm thinking, yesterday, hey, why is this line six? I
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don't understand it? And I left the show and somebody
text me and said, bad team, short week on the road.
It's it's six. Is the appropriate line instead of three
to three and a half? If if in most instances
that they played on Sunday, it would be Jets favored
by three and a half to four, but it was six.
So this week it's a little more realistic. I do
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think teams.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
The underdogs this week are tasty. I think we're giving underdogs.
I like underdogs this week, but that doesn't mean reality
is different. I'm just gonna do some underdogs. So you're
ready to go to the Blazing five. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Let's blaze it up enough. It's Collins Blazing Five, sponsored
by Draft Kicks.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Giantsid Brown's six and a half points is too many.
Cleveland's got fourteen players on the injury list this week,
and really good players. It's the Giants o lines playing well.
Daniel Jones has protection. They did not allow a touchdown
in the loss of the Commanders. Jake Jack Conklin's out,
David In, Djoku, Miles Garrett, Zadaria Smith, Denzel Ward. Cleveland's
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banged up. Their offense is twenty eighth in the league.
Deshaun Watson's completing fifty eight percent of his throws, and
they're one of two defenses without a takeaway this year.
But it's really about Deshaun Watson. How much better than
Daniel Jones is he this year? I'm not sure he is.
Six and a half is way too many points. This
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Cleveland team's a fraud. Giants win it take the points
twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Broncos it Buccaneers.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I like the Bucks, not six and a half points.
I'm taking Denver plus six and a half points. Listen to.
Broncos are a really desperate team and they've got talent,
but this is about the Bucks. They were out gained
by Detroit by two hundred and fifty yards. They were
two for ten on third down. Baker Mayfield got sacked
five times. I like Tampa, I don't like them that much.
(04:05):
Their defense is missing Vida via Antonio Winfield. It's all
beat up again. A desperate team, whether or not a factor.
You're not facing the Steelers defense now. This is the
weakest defense Denver wolf face bow Nicks will have time
to throw. And the Bucks defense this year has been bad.
It's just not a very good defense. The Broncos are
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gonna cover here. I'm gonna take the Bucks to win
in a late field goal, but that I'm taking six
and a half all day long with this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Dolphins aid Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, I'm gonna take a favorite. I don't get the line.
I'm gonna take Seattle at home minus four and a half.
Skyler Thompson completes fifty percent of his throws. This story
is about Seattle. We talked Geno Smith. That's not the story.
It's their new defensive coach from Baltimore. Seattle has the
highest wedded defense in the league according to PFF. It
was near the bottom last year with the same dudes.
They're allowing four yards of play, second best in the NFL.
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Opposing quarterbacks have a sixty one passer rating against the Seahawks.
It's not about Geno Smith and DK Metcalf. This is
an excellent defense. Skyler Thompson, what are we doing here?
He has a sixty passer rader. I don't understand the line,
and Miami never feels the same when they travel or
go up north or go out west. I'm gonna take
the Seahawks to win. I'm gonna swallow the points twenty
(05:18):
eight to seventeen. They will shut down. Skyler Thompson. In
the Pacific Northwest Chief said Falcons. Here's my upset of
the week. I think Atlanta's a good team. I told
Philadelphia fans when the Falcons beat you, take a deep breath.
Atlanta's a good football team. They're gonna win their division,
win eleven twelve games. I'm gonna take the Falcons plus
three points. They had no turnovers in six point six
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yards of play with Kirk Cousins, It's one of the
best old lines. Excellent running back room, could be the
best running back room in the league, by the way,
twenty to twenty nine against the Eagles, Kirk Cousins moved
better Kansas City first road game, Mahomes first couple of weeks,
worse than passing yards in turnovers, and Kirk Cousins had
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this reputation bad in primetime. No, he's not last four
primetime games. He's completing seventy five percent of his throws.
There's gonna be an upset this weekend. I think it's close.
I think it looks like the Philadelphia game. And I
think I think Atlanta at home wins this game. I
know I know Colin stay away from Atlanta. I know
I know my ATM receipts would tell me stay away
from Atlanta. I like him in this flot.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Jaguars It Bills.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Jaguars are not a terrible team. Okay, They're gonna play well.
Five points against Buffalo. They're zero to two the season.
On the line for Jacksonville. Greg Cosel told us yesterday,
Trevor Lawrence is good. He's tall, he moves well, he
throws well. They got off to a slow start. That
Trevor Lawrence is completing fifty one percent of his throws.
You really think that's what he is. No, that's not
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what he is. They've had twelve plays this year of
twenty or more yards. That's tied for the most in Elite.
The Jaguars offense is a big playoffense. They'll be fine.
Bills major injuries, Matt Mulano out, his backups hurt. They
have a linebacker in the corner that may not play.
Trevor Lawrence in primetime games has actually eight touchdowns no picksmen. Okay,
(07:11):
I like Buffalo, but five points feels like way too
much for an explosive offense. They're dinged up on the
defensive side. Jags win twenty six, twenty four. Remember we
thought the Jags last year before Trevor Lawrence got banged up,
they looked like a playoff team. The year before they
were a playoff team. They're not terrible. They're not They're
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going to be very competitive. These teams are much closer
than you think. Twenty six to twenty four. Take the points.
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I'm taking a lot of points this weekend. I think
(07:53):
the market's a little crazy. I like a lot of underdogs.
I like Jacksonville as an underdog. I like the Giants
is an underdog, like the Denver Broncos as an underdog.
I'm taking four underdogs and the Seahawks to cover at
home against the Dolphins. J Mack any reaction to that,
don't don't love.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
What I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I do like that you're fading the Bills and Dolphins.
Don't mean the Jets all alone in first place.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
But yeah, I know, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I don't know about the giant Daniel Jones against the
Jim Schwartz defense. I'm looking at the injury report for
the Browns. We'll see what becomes official later today.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Mile Garrett. If Mile Garrett is out, that's a great call.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Giants offense at line, it's great at left tackle and
has played very good this year. The Giants on line
has played if Miles Garrett does not play, Daniel Jones
and that receiving core now that neighbors is the one
and everybody slides back a slot, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
They played the Vikings and the and Washington. You know
there's a big step up the Brown Miles Garrett, I
do like the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Pay by the way, I'm riding with you on that one.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
All right, let's go to Eric Mangini, Jets Brown's head
coach Fox Sports. So I said this, the Jets have
been for about a decade eight nine years, have been
so bad at quarterback that there's no reason for me
to be cynical or snarky. Last night looked like Mona Lisa.
(09:15):
That's if you go to the last eight years, that
was one of the great nights of quarterback play. I
don't know if it's long lasting. The schedule gets tougher,
but I thought that looked like a highly functional offense
and Aaron was comfortable. That was my take yours.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yeah, this is the Aaron Rodgers that I expected them
to have last year before he got hurt, and this
is this is the potential with Aaron Rodgers. And you
look at what they've been able to do this year.
What's at three touchdowns and three straight games. They had
one game all last season where they had three touchdownds.
He looked, he looked poised, His movement was very good.
(09:56):
It looks like he's got a report now with the
wide receivers when he's changed he plays at the line
of scrimmage that that's really positive. And we can ding
the Patriots. But the Patriots, they upset the Bengals. They're
ahead of the Seahawks for fifty nine minutes. They've played
pretty well coming into this game, and the Jets just dominated.
And when Aaron plays well, it makes everybody else play better.
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They gives them something that they didn't really have all
last season, which.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Was hope the entire game.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
They know that they can play with anybody as long
as Aaron's playing. You know, he doesn't always have to
play this well, but if he plays to some semblance
of it, it's it's so much higher than what they've
been playing with, you know, for a long long time.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, you know, New York WFA and Radio today
people are talking super Bowl. This is the way it
is when you were the Jets coach. Even Robert Sala
last night's getting all worked up, and Aaron Rodgers is like,
chill out, dude, chill out. It's it's week three, it's
the Patriots were home. Did you feel like after big
wins when you were the Jets coach, sometimes you had
(11:03):
to temper things, talk radio, newspapers, Fans go nuts. You
know when you're when you don't have any water in
the desert and you get a bottle of water, it's
the greatest thing of all time. I could see the
Jets getting over their skis here or is that not
an issue?
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Yeah, it's it's absolutely an issue. And then that's another
positive of having Aaron Rodgers around and even saw it
with the hug or non hug or whatever you want
to call that on the sideline. He'll do a good
job of tempering everybody's enthusiasm, not to the point where
where he's discouraging them being confident, but you understand that
(11:44):
it's a it's a long season and you can go
into you know, one or two game streaks, but but
they haven't had again, a lot of hope for a
long time. So now seeing what this potentially could be,
and and it's it's with an asterisk. Who knows how
bad New England's gonna end up being, but that glimmer
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of hope. They've been so desperate for it for so
long that that's going to get blown up. And then
you've got to you got to make sure guys aren't
going on the radio or on podcasts or in interviews
and talking about how great they are before they actually
do something of any significance.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Listen, some of these young quarterbacks play like Bryce Young
and I don't see anything. Some like Anthony Richardson, I
see talent, but he's struggling with the layups and stuff
out in the flat. I see a power arm. With Caleb,
I see great mobility. My bigger issue is on the
offensive coordinator. What are you? They're not running the ball.
I don't know what they are now. Some of that
Keenan Allen's a veteran receiver, a really dependable third down guy,
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and they miss him. DJ Moores will over the top.
But my takeaway is when I watch Caleb, I'm like,
can you just give me a semblance of a run game?
Give him a do him a favor here. That's what
I want to see is be something. It's not intermural
like be something. What are you? What's yourn?
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You sound a little bit like Nick Wright, where where
there's a lot of excuses for Hawaii he's not playing
well and and and it's one of those things where
he can he needs to control the things that he
can control. And they've had a bunch of priests in
net penalties, whether it's false starts to lay of games,
illegal formation, things like that.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
A lot of those are on the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
That's cadence, that's understanding where guys are supposed to be.
That's something that's inherently in his control. And you and
I talked about this a lot leading up to the season.
Don't don't start with not losing the game. You don't
have to try to make a great play every play
and extend and extend it and take an eighteen yard sack.
And now it's killing drives, it's killing field position. So
(13:43):
it's that it's the interceptions. And you look at you
look at what Jayden Daniels is doing in Washington. He's
at seventy five percent completion, he's at I think in
ninety six ninety seven quarterback rating, he scored two touchdowns
running the ball. He hadn't scored any throwing the ball,
but he hasn't turned the ball over. He's giving him
ache to compete in every game. And and Caleb is
gonna get better. And he's incredibly talented. But control the
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stuff that you can control. And and and offensively, I
promise you, I promise you. They are doing everything in
their power to make him look good and make him
be successful. There is no greater mission in Chicago than that.
So he's got to take some accountability with that too,
And and and not lose games. Start start start there,
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and we'll see his talent and he'll continue to get better.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know what's amazing, Jim Harball, with the same defensive players,
they use their draft picks to get a receiver and
a tackle. Their top draft picks, same defensive players are
the best defense in the league statistically from the worst.
Is it schematics? You know, Harball, You've been in the
room with Hartball. He literally took the worst defense in
the league. And then they now look hard nosed. They're
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a hard, power running team. What is his what is
the genius here.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
Well, he walks into the building and he has something
that that you know they haven't had there for a while.
It's instant legitimacy. Everybody knows wherever he's been he's won.
Comes off winning the national championship. So the guys understand,
if we listen to him, if we do the things
he's asking us to do, then we've got a pretty
good shot of winning. So that's a big step. Then
you win the first two games that that reinforces the legitimacy,
(15:25):
and then there's authenticity. He is who he is, and
he talks about loving football.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
And and I there's nobody I've.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Been around that's more sincere in making that statement than
Jim Harbaugh. And this is a long season that you're
asking a lot from guys, and that that love that
he has the football, it's it's contagious and it affects
It affects the players, it affects the room. And then
the other thing that he's different and better than a
lot of guys I've been around. Maybe the best is
(15:57):
his willingness to try new things, his openness to new ideas,
his openness to.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Bucking the norms.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
And if the whole league is passing all the time,
and he wants to run it all the time. He's
gonna do it if they want to try. Whatever it was.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
His thing was.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Always when I was in San Francisco with him, we're
the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
We can do whatever we want.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
And I'm sure he's saying the same thing with the charges,
with the LA charges, we can do anything we want.
And that openness and willing to push the envelope and
not have this conventional wisdom that has a really positive
effect as well.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So you know this in the NFL, this is not college.
The margins are very even the best and worst teams.
Jacksonville's zero and two going to Buffalo, Buffalo's two and zero.
If Jacksonville won, you would not be surprised at all.
Nobody would. That's the NFL. And I you know, so
when I look at Dallas, I could say to myself, well,
Kansas City got blown out by Denver last year, and
(16:54):
San Francisco got blown out twice once so I Baltimore
and once by Cincinnati. Everybody in this league gets Tom
Brady had horrible Sundays. I can remember one time he
threw like four interceptions at Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, So when I look at the Cowboys and the Ravens,
it happens. You had a bad game at Cleveland, one
that they got blown out at Cleveland and Cleveland won't
even good. I think it was the Peyton hillis years.
He gets crushed, and so my take is.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
A way to go, thanks Colin, you good job.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I remember that again, you crushed Tommy. So do I
look at the Cowboys and go, hey, the Saints caught
everybody flat footed. We didn't talk about Clint kobyac their
offense caught everybody flat footed. This team blew out Cleveland.
They're gonna beat Baltimore. I mean, that's my take is
that I want to this game will decide what they are.
(17:47):
I don't want to. I don't want to look at
the Saints game and go they're terrible. What do you
make of Baltimore Dallas this weekend?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well, here's what I don't love about Dallas.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
This is too games in a row if you include
the playoff game where they lost at home, and whether
they won sixteen straight prior to prior to Green Bay
and sixteen regular season straight straight regular season games so
now we're looking at the potential of losing three straight
home games, which would be amazing. They had some some
periods up and down last year. It looks like that
(18:21):
could be the team we're facing or seeing again this year.
And the last time they started one and two, you know,
if they end up losing, they ended up finishing six,
six and ten. I don't love the comments by Micah
Parsons where he's saying not everybody was giving one hundred
percent effort. That's a real concern when we're talking about
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week two of the season and you're you're home opener.
That that's problematic. And what I'm looking for out of
Dallas is not just what they do offensively, but how
quickly can they fix the problems that they have and
very different approach defensively than what they had with Dan Quinn.
And how do these guys respond to the fixes and
(19:03):
how quickly do they have the fixes?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah? All right, By the way, would you have last
night the Patriots trotted out Drake May and he got
the you know what kicked out of him? Would you
have done that?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
It's a matter of time before Drake May is starting
in New England and I'm sure, what did Jacoby have?
He had ninety eight yards passing, and yeah he was
getting beat up. But you want to give Drake some
opportunities because I don't know if it's one week from now,
two weeks from now, three weeks from now, but he's.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Going to be starting.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
So if you can get him in there a little bit,
not ideal conditions where he as what he had four
completions and two sacks, not great, but you are trying
to get him some experience before he ends up starting,
which I'm sure is not too far on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Eric Mangini, how about that. I recalled Browns with Peyton
Hill as crushing Tom Brady, and I remember it well,
it was. I think it was. It was a very
sunny day and you beat the you know what out
of them.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I remember that, Yeah, it was. It was. It was
a good win and it was a great story. If
you just left out they weren't very good, it would
have been a great story.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Good seeing you coach seek all right?
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Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, I'm sure everybody's as excited as I am about
Aaron Rodgers looking particularly great last night. I met life
two hundred and eighty one yards, two touchdowns. Just look
like the young Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
We expected.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills quarterback, made an appearance on
the facility today and had this to say about Rogers' performance.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I'm just happy he's playing football again. I mean, I
think this isn't a crazy statement, but he's probably the
most gifted thrower of the football of all time. I
watched the game last night. I woke up this morning,
I watched the All twenty two because I just I
love watching him play. If I can incorporate anything that
he does into my game, obviously, I think that's gonna
make me a better football player. But he you know,
(21:42):
he's awesome.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
I do.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
I love the guy. I've spent a lot of time
around him. Yeah, and he's playing good Football's sending there
right now.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's a nice thing to say anything.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I just remember he's ramping up because in Week one
he did not look this sharp other than one drive
against Sant frank Week two he started to emerge in
the second half, and then Week three against what's a
pretty good Patriots defense. Now, the one thing, if you
look at the passing chart I posted this on my Instagram,
Rogers did not throw the ball down the field more
than twenty yards once.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Oh, I still think he has trust issues.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, I think they were also taking what the defense
gives him. We've heard a lot about the too high
shell that we've been talking about on the show for
a couple of years. Now, that's what the Patriots are playing.
Rogers is like, I'm not forcing anything. I got my
tight end here, I got this guy, Garrett Wilson. Colin
had six catches for thirty three yards and his longest
reception was nine yards. Rogers is not making taking any gambles,
(22:37):
nothing risky.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I love to see that Colin.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Now, they were playing from a head the entire way,
which makes it a little easier but.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
What Aaron's always been a great front runner. He's great
with a leader. Comfortable. That's always been as well. He's not.
Aaron has a bizarrely low number of come from behind
wins in the second half in his career. He's always
been when Aaron's comfortable and Aaron's feeling it, he plays
with a lot of confidence. When he plays with a lead,
Aaron plays downhill as well as anybody. Dak does this
a lot. Yeah, Dak is also he is great with
(23:08):
the leads.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
But the opposite is true, right, Dak is not good
coming from behind?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Is he? And Mahomes is great coming from Belamar Stafford
is great coming from some quarterbacks.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Baker Mayfield's one of those guys. Baker's great with a lead.
When Baker has confidence, he is feeling it, Baker is great.
Baker gets in a hole, he can get a little desperate.
He question his judgment, Baker makes mistakes. Everybody's different. Aaron,
for his talent, has never quite been as good fourth
quarter playing from behind. The numbers tell you as you'd
expect Will Levis.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
If they take it a ten point lead, you might
want to hit the in game bet on the other side.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, he's going to choke it away.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Next up is the Niners. This injury reports killing me Colins.
This is my first bet of the week Sunday Night
on the Niners. And now in addition to no Christian McCaffrey,
it's Deebo Samuel's out and it's starting to look like.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
George Kittle as well hamstring injury.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Trent Williams somehow thinks this is a good thing for
San Francisco.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
It's ups. You know, those guys are the best in
the world. But you know who really feels harrd for
you know, so it's next man of league. You know,
it's a couple of guys that we want to see
get get more accent anyway, So you know, hated had
to come on the heels of somebody being injured. But
you know, this is when opportunities prevent themselves. You know,
(24:23):
it's a blessing in disguise, and Gods, it's got to
be raised, step up and relish.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
In the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Well, I mean, Jordan Mason looked very good in the
backup spot. Now he's not Christian McCaffery, but there is
I will say the backup complied that the The one
thing you do look at is the Rams come in
all dinged up as well. So if you're not playing
a healthy team that's on fire, you're playing a banged
up Rams team. So it's it's that makes your injuries
(24:50):
more palatable. And I also think the backup offensive players
for the Niners are better than the backup offensive player
for the Rams. Rams wide receiving group this weekend is.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
It's it's brutal.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm more curious defensively because you yours, you seem to.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Be making a big deal out of rock party, you know,
uh and the weapons he has, so you know, Historically,
the Rams under Raheem Morris had played a lot of
zone and Morris has taken that to Atlanta. It looks
like they're playing the little more zone than man this year.
Debo usually eats up zones. He can just get in
the middle of fine spots and kill as well. I
(25:27):
don't know what they're gonna do offensively, Like I know
a Yuku is a good receiver, but like after that Colin,
remember Pierce all is the kid who got shot.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
He's not playing.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's like Jennings and.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Then I don't know what kind of depth they have
and if they're gonna be able to handle this Rams defense,
which isn't good. But I mean there's a world where
San Frank kind of loses this game. The line is
coming down money on the Rams.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What's the line now? Six and a half?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It was seven and a half and I you know, to.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Me, if you have six good players out of the game,
I'm just staying away. How I feel about the Packers
and a.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Divisional matchup, the familiarities there no that stinks, by the way,
that we need our guys healthy in this league. One
of the reasons scoring could be down. So many good
offensive players have been hurt.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's not great.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
There's a lot of reasons why scoring is down.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You're right there are.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Final story is just in fields to and oh how
about it? Stealers looking good. Russell Wilson's been sideline with
the calf injury. The fields is starting against the Chargers. However,
Russ is starting to practice more and feels like he's
getting closer to a return.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm definitely gaining ground. I feel feel good.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
I was able to do a little lot more work
today yesterday, so getting.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Better every day.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
I'm doing everything I can.
Speaker 11 (26:35):
You know, physically every day, every morning, every night, just
to make sure that I can be ready to go.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
And uh, you know, we'll know where I'm ready and
getting close.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Now we have a whole plan.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
You know, we're following the plan. I want to get
to the details of the plan, but we're we're following that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And uh yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
I think I got a lot of work to end today,
which is great. So that was that was a really
good thing.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, he smiled when he said, we're following the plan.
So the plan means when he's healthy, he'll play.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
So this is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So if they're able to beat the Chargers Colin, next
up is the Colts. Their defense is a joke, the
worst run defense in the league through two games. Fields
ain't losing to the Colts, I don't think, right. So
now you're looking at maybe four and oh going into
that primetime matchup against the Cowboys October sixth, and it's like, well, shucks, Russell.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Wilson, this could be slipping away pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And he meant, well, he just said, we have a plan,
he smiled, And I'm not telling you the plan. Do
you think, Tomlin, if the field is three and ale,
if the plan was Justin's team going forward. I mean
if I said to you, if you asked me, hey, Colin,
how are things going at the volume and I said, well,
we've got a plan, and I smiled, I'm probably not
(27:45):
filing for chapter seventy. Russell Wilson smiled, he said, we've
got a plan.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
No I am, But I mean, I think he's just
trying to keep it positive.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Collington, he is very positive.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
A lot of questions in audio and video of a
backup quarterback who's injured talking, Why is the media grilling him?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Where's fields they got to start talking about?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Got a game ball this week?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Who Russell Wilson did for wearing eye black and shoulder
pads active on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm not bringing that level of cynicism to the herd today.
It's a very positive day, Aaron no I said with Aaron.
Today is not a day to be cynical. It's a
it's a day to go, you know, as the best
quarterback day in the city of New York in nine years,
it was you watch New York. Here's something you never
see competent quarterback play in New York on a standalone gamezing.
(28:33):
I'm just being honest a cynicism. I threw that thing
off the set an hour ago, off the set. Are
you done?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
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Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by her.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Maybe I'm defending Russell Wilson because people have a habit
of just kicking the old guy to the curb, and
the old guy is still got a couple of fastballs
in it.
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There you go, over Promising. Remember you could see it
on YouTube, but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised with
Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
All right, Jordan Schultz Fox Sports, NFL on side or
he'll be on Speak later today. There's a bunch of
stuff to talk about. So the big shocking move this
week it's a program a franchise we don't talk about.
But Bryce Young got benched in week two, so obviously
he's upset. My take is it may have come from upstairs.
Owners are impulsive. Carson Wentz had a great year in Indie.
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Jim Ersey wanted him out Chris Fowler moved off. It's
not always the coaches say. In fact, a lot of
times some of these new owners too. They're not old
school like the Steelers. They let the coach the GM
run it. So, Jordan Bryce Harper, what is the fallout
from benching him this early?
Speaker 11 (30:46):
First of all two games eighteen total for his career
is not a big enough sample size. I don't care
who you are. Now, I've asked around a few different
personnel people, coaches, what happen if you put your quarterback
in that system? You know what they say, he would
struggle because no quarterback is set up to win there.
What they mortgaged in that deal with Chicago to get
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the number one pick was a dearth now of talent,
a wide receiver, at tight end, at offensive line, these
marquee positions for any young quarterback to succeed. Now, it
wouldn't surprise me at all, Colin, based on what I've
been told over the last few days. If Rice Young
were to say I won out and I think he
should one out, I would make the argument that no
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quarterback in the league would have success there, including a
Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
That's how bad. It is.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
And if you think about the history of quarterbacks within
the Carolina Panthers franchise under this ownership group, Matt Corral
did not do very well, Sam Donald, Teddy Bridge, Baker Mayfield.
These guys don't have success. And at some point you
have to know everywhere, absolutely your guy Sam Darnold has
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looked awesome in Minnesota so far.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Look at Baker Mayfield, just got paid.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
The bottom line, if you're David Tepper and you're the Panthers,
you have to sit back home, in my opinion, and say, look,
we are the problem. Because Bryce Young was the number
one pick for a reason. He probably would have gone
one or two even if Houston.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Had the whatever.
Speaker 11 (32:14):
This is a team that is not built to win now.
It's a roster that has just holes everywhere, and I
think they have put him in a really tough position.
And if again, if I'm Bryce Young, I'm looking out
and I'm saying I can't succeed here.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
I need to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Jordan Love, how serious is the injury? Is it possible
the young quarterback for the Green Bay Packers actually will play?
Are they going to arrest him for big divisional games?
Down the road.
Speaker 11 (32:40):
They're going to take this all the way up the
game time. But I think they saw a game last week.
Malik Willis is someone that they can run the ball with. Yes,
he can do all that naked boot stuff you saw
last week. Jacobs had over thirty carries. I think if
you were to ask Green Bay a couple of weeks ago,
when Jordan Love got hurt, if we can get him
back in two would you take that, the answer is
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absolutely yes. Ten times out of ten. They thought this
could potentially be an ir situation. So for Green Bay
it's not worth, in my opinion, risking it with Jordan Love.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
If you can get him.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Back in another week, you can go one in one
or two and zero, and this division may not be
the gatlet we thought.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Minnesota looks good, but Detroit.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Strategy Detroit Arizona road game this week is tom.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Absolutely so listen. If I'm Green Bay, I'm I'm thinking
about January. If I'm at Lafleir, I'm not thinking about September, October, November,
I'm thinking about the playoffs. Let's make sure we get
our guy who we just paid fifty five million dollars healthy.
When it really matters.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Jordan Schultz, Fox Sports NFL Insider. Is there a team
that maybe we didn't have high expectations for that you're
buying into right now.
Speaker 11 (33:46):
You just said to Arizona, this is the Kyler Murray
that we all wanted to see, and now we're seeing it.
He's twenty six years old. I don't know if it
was Jonathan Ganner, Drew Petsking Noci who said this week
he still has the athleticism, but now he has the mind,
now he has the maturity. He's making great decisions. This
version of Kyler Murray Collin this is the number one pick,
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This was the Heisman winner. He is so accurate now
and it's there's something I want to say about Kyler.
He got a lot of criticism over the last year
and a half, and maybe some of it was Rifley,
so he wasn't mature enough. He was about himself, whatever
you want to say. But what we're seeing now from
Kyler is a franchise quarterback. And what Arizona has done,
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to their credit is surround him with talent. They had
the best young tight end in football and Trey McBride.
He's terrific, fantastic former Mackie Award winner for Colorado State game.
You know, then they add Marvin Harrison, a bona fide
number one.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He looked great last week.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
He had one hundred and thirty yards in the first quarter.
Marvin Harrison Senior, a Hall of Famer, never had more
than one hundred and ten in a quarter. That's how
good he is. They have a physical running game. Honors
are really nice running nice running back. They drafted Trade Benson,
rookie out of four at State. Got some juice. This
is a team I liked going.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
Into this season.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
They almost be Buffalo week one, yep at Orchard Park.
Then they come back and hammer the Rams. Now they
got Detroit. Really good matchup.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
With Destroit's not quite right.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
They're not quite right. I agree.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
And then I also like Seattle would say in that
division and say I think Seattle's going to unleash a
little bit more with Ryan Grubb, the OC Gino Smith.
They're getting JSN involved DK Metcalf when Kenneth Walker's right,
that's a really good one two punch as well in
the backfield.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I like both those teams.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
The NFC West Okay, have your sources have expectations changed
a little for Caleb Williams and the Bears after the start.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
No, and I'll tell you why, because when they drafted Caleb,
they knew that, like any young quarterback, even one as
talented as he, it was going to take time.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
I want your show yesterday.
Speaker 11 (35:42):
It was great with Jordan Palmer and he said something
I thought was really interesting. The plays that Caleb Williams
made last year on his Heisman winning or two years
ago that reel with USC those plays are now sacks.
Those rollout you know, flick a downfield maybe you know
roll out, run back around reverse, those were great plays
in college. Now they're sacks. He's going to have to
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find a way to minimize the damage. But also they've
had Keenan Allen hurt, They've had Romo Dunes they hurt.
It's still offensive line that's young. I think they're going
to open it up more. But this is what happens
with young quarterbacks. It's very very rare that a rookie,
even number one overall pick, can come in and have
great success right away. I think they're going to have
a successful offensive season, but it is going to take
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some time.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Well. Also, starting offensive linemen not only do quarterbacks not
play a lot in the preseason. Starting offensive lineman dote
and offense is about rhythm, yes, and offensive lines are
about cohesion. So the defenses have been ahead of the
offense so far.
Speaker 11 (36:42):
And nobody practices anymore, or nobody plays anymore.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
There's no padded practices in the preseason.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (36:46):
Can we talk about the Jets though? Okay, so let's
go back to the Jet now. Look at j Mack
and I knew he was waiting for that. I said
that I had no cynicism. It was a great quarterback performance,
standalone game. Let's give the Jets some love. Absolutely, congratulations
Jay Mack. What a moment for you. What did you
make of it?
Speaker 11 (37:05):
And you ended up taking the Jets last night on
the spread? I saw you you like New England, and
then you said I.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Can't figure out the spread. And I got off the show.
And a buddy who gambles a lot said, short week,
bad team on the road against Aaron Rodgers first home game,
starting the entire game. That's why the line six not
three three and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I think road.
Speaker 8 (37:22):
I think to ten.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
The last twelve ats for teams on the road coming
off an overtime game you think about the rookie head coach.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
But here's what I'll say about the Jets.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
We talk about Aaron Rodgers changing the perception of the franchise.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
This is it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
This is it.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
They had back to back scoring drives two times in
one game. They had not had that last season more
than two times. So they equal that in the same game.
This is the Jets that we wanted to see. Aaron
Rodgers was phenomenal. Now, I know New England's not a
juggernaut defensively, but this is the cohesion I saw with
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Garrett Wilson. It was the back shoulder in the first
half that was incomplete where he throws him open. It
was Alan Lazard checking out of the run play saying
that's that's my guy.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
I trust him. From Green Bay.
Speaker 11 (38:08):
It's the running game with Braylan Allen and breisall It's
the offensive line. I just reported about thirty minutes ago,
Morgan Moses only out two to three weeks. They had
him horrible, horrible, big time news from Morgan Moses veteran
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Two weeks.
Speaker 11 (38:21):
I think that'll be it, so certainly not I are
They thought it might be eight.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Weeks they thought it might be the whole season. So
that's great news.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
And I just thought this is the rhythm too, from
a perspective of it's not just the receivers, it's the
tight end. They had Jack Conklin, Tyler Conklin on the seams,
they had Mike Williams making plays, it was Garrett Wilson.
It was just this is a beautiful thing if you're
a Jets fan. And also they had fourteen first downs
almost through the half. They hadn't had any of that
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type of experience last year. It was such a struggle
with Zach Wilson in the offensive line. So I know
it's three games, but finally, if you're a Jet fan,
you can smile.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
That was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
For fantasy football football players, men and women. George Kittle,
what's the latest.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
It's not just Kittle, it's McCaffrey, it's Deebo.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So all three out.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
So McCaffrey, I.
Speaker 11 (39:13):
Was told, could potentially miss more than just the four
weeks on IR with that tendonitis in his calf. Kittle,
I think is is going to be very close. And
I think Deebo so I listen, I'm not a fantasy
football expert, but I wouldn't play either one of those
guys this week, just knowing what they're dealing with, and
justin Herbert also dealing with something. I think he's going
to try to play for the Chargers. I think it's
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against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Rat heavily wrapped up.
Speaker 11 (39:37):
But I was told last night this is a specifically
a pain tolerance thing. He's basically got the whole tape
on his ankle.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
So it's all pain tolerance.
Speaker 11 (39:45):
It's probably gonna nag him throughout the season. I think
he will play, but this is certainly something in a monitor,
because when you're a big guy like Herbert who needs
to be mobile and you can't, then suddenly it's an issue.
So but again with Kittle, McCaffrey, Samuel is a real thing.
And I think also if you're the Niners, you're looking
at it future and you're saying to brock Purty in
the offseason, Colin.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
How do you how did you do without all your weapons?
Speaker 11 (40:09):
Because eventually all these guys aren't gonna be They're not
gonna be able to pay everyone. So I think brock
Purty is going to get paid next next summer, big time.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
Money.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
But if you're the forty nine ers, you're evaluating this
based on what happens now without all the weapons in
full throttle.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Jordan Schultz, who lives over in Connecticut, is is your
neighborhood more Jets or Giants?
Speaker 8 (40:29):
It's all GNN. It's all genius, so, you know, not
great for the for the GMUS.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
It's It's funny. When I lived near New York, strangely,
all the people around me were Giants fans, and uh,
it was a Giant Yankees neighborhood I was in.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yeah, it's all Giants, Yankees Rangers.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
So sorry it's j Max, but hey, the Jets.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
Green Max. I'm happy for you, man. You deserve it.
You deserve it, and I wouldn't go.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't think he does.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
He deserves it. He's been through a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
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