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Colin gives a brutal assessment of the Cowboys after another home loss where they fell into an early deficit and why this team clearly lacks toughness. He tells you why he was right about the Eagles and wrong about the Packers. He also talks to Mark Sanchez about the crazy finish to the Rams comeback win over the 49ers. 

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
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We'll have Mark Sanchez top by today, Matt hasselback one
hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,
there's a lot of folk Jmac. You know I had

(00:47):
said before the season, all these twelve win Cowboys seasons,
I said, I believe they have peaked and they'll be
slow regressing. It won't be drastic, they won't go down
to seven win the eight wins, but it'll be about
twelve twelve twelve. This year will be closer to ten,
and there'll be more ugly losses. And once again, don't

(01:10):
be fooled by the fourth quarter. Dallas got smoked. Right,
it feels good that we nail that game, right, Ravens
in a mauling. Yeah. So see thee Lamb and Dak
are arguing on one side line and Micah Parsons is
yelling at the defense both sides and chaos. The Cowboys
have become one big, authentic Kardashian event. There's drama, and

(01:31):
there's glitz, and there's glemma, and there's money, and most
of it's just a big illusion. And they both have
the most gullible of people that worship them. The Cowboys
and the Kardashians are great at taking your money, and
Jerry Jones has master that follow the bouncing ball. But
increasingly if the last five really good teams. They have

(01:53):
played Buffalo, Green Bay and Detroit last year, Saints Ravens
this year, four or five of those that are at home,
and they've been bullied in all of those games. At
some point, four or five just bullied Dallas. Here's the problem.
Their roster's not talented enough. And Jerry Jones calls himself

(02:14):
the GM he's eighty one. It's not a good enough roster.
They're also a team that's soft. They're the worst run defense,
in the league. Dereck, Henry and Lamar had their way yesterday.
They're also a team that has no chin. If you
hit them early, they fold like a cheap deck chair. Also, Dak,
CD and Micah eventually are all going to have top
of the market contract, so you better start nailing those fourth, fifth,

(02:38):
and sixth round picks. Baltimore didn't do anything creative. They
just ran the ball like the Saints did, over and
over and over, often not around but right at Dallas.
So they're getting really expensive. The roster isn't very good,
and Dallas is trailed by twenty or more in three

(02:59):
of their last four games. But hey, Dak leads the
league in passing yards, which is just so perfectly fitting
because Jerry Jones can mention that and justified paying him
top of the league. Congratulations. But if you go back
to like this is something that this is about culture
and soul, you know, everybody bangs on Daniel Jones, and

(03:20):
I will say I had the Giants winning yesterday in
the offensive line, and now they've got a number one receiver.
They've got a little bit of a life in New York.
Not a great team. Cowboys play the Giants Thursday. But
New York's got a little bit of protection, a little
bit of a life, a little bit of a hope.
But as you all bang on Daniel Jones, I went
and looked up this morning. Since twenty twenty, Dak and

(03:41):
the Cowboys have only had six fourth quarter comebacks. That's
the same as Daniel Jones, meaning, you got more talent,
but you don't have any more heart. There's no soul.
What are you? And unlike the Kardashians, actually some of
the Kardashian products are actually pretty good. Skims I'm told
is excellent. And whereas the Kardashian fans that worshiped them

(04:03):
actually liked their products and liked them. Dallas fans were
recently surveyed in the off season by the athletic thousands
of fans and the majority said, we have no chance
to win a Super Bowl in the next five years.
What am I supposed to like about this team? You
can run on them. They don't have much of a culture.

(04:24):
It's Situationally, they're not brilliantly coached. Dak throws for a
lot of yards, but those fourth quarter yards yesterday, that's
stat padding. They weren't real I checked it. Out during
the game. At halftime, the Ravens were averaging over eight
yards of play. So at the end of the third quarter,
I went to my phone after the third quarter the
Ravens were averaging nine yards of play. That's like an

(04:47):
outmatched college team. After the game at Mosey, by the way,
asked why couldn't you They asked about Derreck Henry, who,
by the way, against Dallas was good, and Gerry said
that we couldn't afford him, and Matt Moseley said why.
I don't know. You can't buy a mansion when you
live in a different kind of house. And to that,

(05:08):
I would say, your running backs are not a mansion.
You got one elite wide receiver, an okay tight end.
Where's all the money going? Where are all the great players? Buffalo,
Green Bay Saints Ravens. They're just dominating you. They're pushing
you all over the field. And here's Micah Parsons after.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I mean the same thing I think right now. We
got people just showing to be Superman. People just got
on their jobs.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
We don't need everyone to be Superman. We don't need
no superman's at all. We just need to love of
guys playing together.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right, let's have a really serious, hard conversation about
what's happening with the Chicago Bears. So I thought bow Knicks,
although not great early in the season, I'm watching Sean Payne,
Peyton the coach, and bow Knicks, and I can see
what they're trying to do. I can see the plan.
And not every business is a rocket ship. Some businesses

(06:05):
take a while, some teams take a while. But can
I identify like a plan? We need to have a
hard conversation. I don't think this coaching staff is gonna
work with Caleb Williams. They have no run game at all,
like none. I can't see the plan. It's bad backyard football.
The offensive line is regressed. I mean, they faced the

(06:26):
team yesterday in Indianapolis that doesn't defend the run, and
they still couldn't run fewest yards per play in the NFL.
And this is not a team without talent. They had
a young and improving old line last year. Not anymore.
They had as semblance of a run game, I thought
last year. Not anymore. They had Keenan Allen roma Dunze,
they got DJ Moore, they got players, They're lasting. Everything

(06:46):
that matters or next to last for our TV audience,
sorry radio audience, Look at the screen. I mean DeAndre
Swift has had thirty seven carries, one has been for
a first down. I mean again, once again, I see
a defensive coach and a defensive culture not being able

(07:06):
to figure out how to fix a quarterback. And Cayleb
Williams came into this league, we talked about it. He
could be erratic, he was an incredible playmaker, but he
was going to need somebody like Andy Reid with Mahomes
Aerady to get him back into the fairway, or what
Kevin O'Connell is doing with Sam Darnold take away the reckless,
and that's the bigger problem perhaps for Chicago. Minnesota is

(07:29):
gifted offensively, and young green Bay's got a great coach,
gifted offensively, and young Detroit's not as young. Many of
their players are now moving into their prime. But Detroit, Minnesota,
and Green Bay are excellent offensive teams, not all great defensively,
excellent offensively, and I would say two of them have
great coaches. I think Kevin O'Connell and Matt Lafleu a

(07:50):
pass the test flying colors. I think Dan Campbell is
a great culture builder. I don't know if I trust
them situationally, but he's a good coach. Okay, So forget
for a second the Kayleb Williams stuff. You got the
one defensive coach in that division. You can't win games
in this division going forward, scoring twenty points a game,
twenty three. You gotta get into the twenty eights. This

(08:11):
is now the best offense, best offensive division in football.
Take the Bears out of it. The other three teams
could put an offensive Pro Bowl team together. Minnesota, Detroit
and green Bay, and their best players are mostly young
and getting better. They're no old guys in this league.
The tackles the old line for Detroit, the young receivers
tight ends for green Bay, Minnesota Jefferson, Jordan Natison, TJ Hawkins,

(08:33):
and Sam Darnold's playing out of his mind like MVP stuff.
Isn't this snarky tweet? He maybe so. Chicago's got major
issues here. They're touchdown at the end as garbage. They
scored nine real points. They can't run. There's no plan.
What am I watching? They got to get him an
offensive guru. In the downside, if you fire a coach
midseason and bring it an interim coach, be very very

(08:55):
careful about that, because if the interim wins, like four
games in a row, often in interims a substitute teacher.
Everybody's on their best behavior and great energy and sucking
up with the teacher and bringing produce every morning. Hear
Missus Jones, here's your thirteenth apple of nine days. And
then the interim coach isn't really a head coach. It
was all about energy and him trying to impress the
new person in the room. And you're stuck with an

(09:17):
interim coach for four years, so you may have to
just stick with Eberflus. But this isn't working. They bring
in a new oc the old lines. I thought it
was promising. It's awful. The run game's got DeAndre Swift.
It's terrible. I mean the Colts team, by the way,
the Colts team had a quarterback that completed fifty percent
of his throws, no touchdowns, two pecks, can't hit a

(09:37):
swing path to save his life. They didn't have DeForest Muckner,
and they won, and they controlled large junks of the game. Like,
this isn't working, and I'm not unrealistic. I watched Denver,
and I'm like, oh, I see the plan. Jaden Daniels, Oh,
I see kind of what they're doing here. I'm like,
I'm giving guys patience, but this is I don't even
know what I'm looking at. Here's Caleb after.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I throw fifty two times, geez, I do whatever team needs,
you know what I mean. And so if it's fifty times,
it's fifty times. I can't have the two turnovers with
those fifty attempts. And if it comes down to being
fifty attempts and us slinging the ball around, if it
comes down to being you know, ten attempts, it's whatever
team needs, whatever team needs to get the win, We'll
keep slinging it. We'll keep working on a run game.

(10:22):
You know, we'll keep getting better, definitely as offense. We're
gonna get this thing going here soon.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Oh by the way, one of the best quarterbacks and
best coaches on the planet, Sean McVay Matt Stafford next up.
And before you think, ooh, that's bad scheduling, now you
just got you just got the team he should have beaten.
You just got Anthony Richardson and the team that can't
defend the run like This was the game to get
it right. This was the team. The Rams now were

(10:49):
getting healthy. If you got the Rams in three weeks
should get dusted. You may have a shot this weekend
because the old line is still a bit of a
mess and the wide receiving group is down to backups.
But McVeigh and Stafford, now, good luck cause that get well.
The getting's good. That was your game. I mean, the
NFL gave you a favor. They're like, hey, let's give
him Tennessee early, and let's give him a Let's give

(11:12):
him the Colts here. That Houston's kind of tough, you
know't McVeigh. Oh, here's Carolina. They're giving you games to win,
and Carolina now looks like they're competent. Trub Bull like,
I'm trying to be patient, but I don't see it.
And you can blame the quarterback, but they're not they're
not firing him. That's the future. You gotta make this
thing work. You keep taking big swings on quarterbacks. They're

(11:34):
not getting rid of him. But this is what I
always worry about. I said before the season. J Mack
is my witness. I said, Jaden's got a defensive coach
and Caleb's got a defensive coach, and Drake May's got
a defensive coach. And the kid in Denver has an
offensive coach, and you are watching Vo Nicks. They're not perfect,
but I took him in my blazing five. If you
watch Denver's offense, you see what they're trying to do,

(11:58):
Like I can identify, Oh, they want to get Bonicks
out of the pocket. They like the run. He's their
leading rusher. Like, you can see what they're trying to do.
It's intentional what they're trying to do. It's flawed, it's
not great, but I can see it as a fan. Oh,
that's what they're trying to do. I don't know what
the heck Chicago's offense is. It's like bad Innermurals with
one really talented guy running around running for life. The

(12:19):
run game. The old line's all gotten worse, all right,
Jay Mac, I will say this that Philadelphia New Orleans game.
I have defended Jalen Hurts for years, and you have
pushed back mightily. In fact, Friday you said Colin, people
in Philadelphia are pushing back on Jalen Hurts. It once again,

(12:40):
I stood up and defended him. He turns the ball
over a lot him and Sirianni.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
That was that was That was a big sweat that
Eagles win. Awesome victory for them.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But uh, it was a really fascinating, flawed, ugly game.
But can we admit this, that's Saquon Barkley acquisition. Amazing
How the Giants thought that happened?

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, a real quick note on Bears.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
You said Bears Rams this week. You want to guess
what the line is on that one?

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, so it's in Chicago, in Chicago, Yeah, okay, Rams
still no Pooka, no Cooper cup from no Steve Avilia,
the offensive lineman, the banged up Yeah, I would say
Rams off a Niner win dramatic Rams minus one and
a half. It was my first bet of the week.
Bears favored by two. I'm on the Bears. You're on

(13:30):
the Bears.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Yes, they're winning this game, right, Bears favored against the Rams?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Is that not shock?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
You give it?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
What the Bears? You're taking the Bears? I am, Yeah,
I took them. By the way.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Caleb william throwing fifty two times is in like a
one score game the.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Whole time against a team missing their best defensive player
that is not good against.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
The run, worse than the league coming into the game
against the run. I don't know the game. Ibra Flus
is a must win.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
For you, for your guy, My guy, my guy McVay.

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Speaker 1 (14:13):
Welcome in hour two, Lie in Los Angeles. It's the
Hurt wherever you may be and however you may be listening.
Thanks for megad ass part of your day. Colin Wright,
Colin Wrong in a minute, Mark Sanchez, next hour, Matt
Hasselbeck coming up, j Mac. I had a good week
betting three and one. I've got the Jags plus the

(14:35):
points tonight in Buffalo, had Atlanta last night, felt really
good about it. Had two opportunities and couldn't get it done.
Casey's defense is exceptional.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, Rodney Morrison, questionable play calls the whole field.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Should they have kicked with four minutes left to go
down by two?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I would have again, but historically Patrick Mahomes gets the ball,
He's not giving it back to you.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But this is not that Patrick Mahome. It's not the Also,
Atlanta's got the best field goal kicker in the league.
So if I get it back, I'd try a fifty
six yard field goal. I mean fifty yard field goals. Now,
something happened in the last two years. Everybody got bionic.
People are kicking like fifty six yard field goals. The
ball goes through halfway up the net.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Except for Justin Tucker, who missed another one yesterday.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Well there's everybody has a peek.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
He was the best kicker for even By the way,
Niner special teams totally failed them at the and they
gave up a fake punt n In order.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
To come back and win a game like the Rams did,
you need several things to go your way. So number
one Ronnie Bell dropped a ball. That's the game. Did
you see?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Perty had eight completions, But I think the broadcast said
six drops six drops? By the party was great. At
least you could tell the audience. You told me during
the commercial break how great party was yesterday?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Did listen? He was exceptional, awesome and I wanted to
see him without a completely stacked deck. Any poker player
can win with perfect cards. He didn't have him, and
he's like, Okay, I got one guy I trust. I
don't trust Ronnie Bell. It's been out of camp. I
don't feel good with him. I got no Kittle, no Debo,
no Christian and a pretty good defensive front for the
Rams are some young towny guys. I was gonna go

(16:04):
to Jennings over and over and over, and he kept
hitting him over and over and over. It was really impressive. Yeah,
all right, Colin Right, Colin wrong? Here we go.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I took the Ravens and I said, when it comes
to quality opponents, Dallas isn't gonna beat him. And I
just said, I'll just take Lamar and John Harbaugh on
that spot. They led twenty eight to six. It wasn't competitive.
The rush defense of the Cowboys is atrocious, thirty second
in the league. And again it's not a knock on Dak.
Who was I guess fine, I'm not gonna blame Dak.

(16:32):
But I've watched this game so many times. It's the Niners,
or it's Buffalo last year, or it's Green Bay or
the Saints. I don't trust Dallas, especially at home in
these big spots where Colin was raw. I didn't think
you could win with one touchdown a week. But I
was wrong on Justin Fields. I mean Arthur Smith. He's

(16:53):
coached out the reckless in him. Justin Still. You know,
he's not a guy who sitting in the pocket going
to throw you four touchdown passes. But he's had only
one turnover all season. What does this say about the Bears.
He's completing seventy three percent of his throws, So you know,
sometimes we've seen it with Sam Donald, We've seen it
with Baker Mayfield. I didn't think Justin Fields would ever
complete seventy three percent of his throws. I was wrong,

(17:16):
and I did not think Pittsburgh had a chance to
go four and oh in the season.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
I'm wrong where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Sam Donald's passer rating is one seventeen, and I'm just
gonna I'm gonna take one more. I'm right on this,
mostly because nobody will acknowledge there's no more reckless if
you take I always said when he came into this league,
his upside is Andrew luck. Although I didn't think he
was that good and a Carson wentz and he ended

(17:47):
up being like a worst version of Carson Wentz. And
I'm not saying he's Andrew Luck. It's been a couple
of games, but this is who I told everybody was.
I'm like, big, strong athletic, this is what he can be.
He finally got a coach now, maybe the best young
coach in football. But he leads the NFL in touchdown passes.
I'm waiting for it to I'm waiting for the bubble
to burst as well. I'm waiting. I thought this was

(18:09):
the weekend he looked better than last.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Weekend where Colin was wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Malie Willis, how about Coach of the Year Matt Lafleur
Tennessee gave him away. The kid is super efficient. I mean,
he just doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not
asking him to throw forty five times a game, but
he's making throws down the field now. And I mean,
even Jordan Love, as good as he is, it took
him years. It took him a full season to develop

(18:36):
once he started. I didn't see this coming from a
mile away. I never thought he'd play. I mean, I'd
said the last couple of weeks everybody wanted to bet certainty,
you know, like I'm just staying away from Green Bay.
This is a mess. Not at all, We're gonna win
that division. I think I really.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
Believe that Where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Bo Nicks, Hey, I just kept saying, do not be
surprised if, because he's got an offensive coach, doesn't have
the best rookie season. Now again, he's more athletic than
everybody gets him credit for. Here's what I like. They're
not babysitting in now. Listen, he's not lighting the league up,
but they're making him throw thirty six forty times a game.

(19:16):
And on script yesterday he was pretty darn good. Again,
you all bailed on him so he couldn't move the
ball against Pittsburgh. He opened up at one of the
loudest stadiums against Mike McDonald and a talented Seahawk defense.
This kid can play. And I said, don't be shocked
if after the rookie year, with all these young quarterbacks
with defensive coaches in defensive cultures, don't be surprised at

(19:39):
bo Nicks after one year doesn't look like the best
statistically of all these quarterbacks. Where Colin was right, Juwan Jennings,
I'd love this guy last couple of years. I think
He's the best third receiver on any team in the NFL.
For the San Francisco forty nine ers, he's just tremendous.
Eleven catches, sixteen yards of catch. He was a big, tall,

(20:02):
lanky kid out of Tennessee. Now he's put on strength
and Rock Perty and Brandon Ayuk are totally out of sorts,
so he is looking for him. And how many six
four six ' five corners do you have in the NFL?
Not many. He's a body advantage where Colin was raw.
Not just that USC lost, but the way they were bullied.

(20:22):
I thought it would be a low scoring game. USC's
offensive line was completely utterly overwhelmed and the bad tackling
by USC reared its head. You know what they looked
like at the end of that game, kind of a
soft Pac twelve team. I'm sorry, that's what they looked like.
And I thought that was gone. Michigan ran for two
hundred and ninety yards, had three huge runs, and I again,

(20:46):
we knew that Michigan had the best defensive front in
the country, and we knew that USC's on line was
talented but young, but that was ugly. They literally could
not protect.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Miller Moss where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Five of the eight Philadelphia Eagle touchdowns or Saquon Barkley.
I said, this poor kid's never had a good offensive line.
Can you imagine Saquon Barkley with the Eagles offensive line
without him? There's an argument Philadelphia is zero to three.
He has just been incredible. And to let in your
division a player the level of Saquon Barkley go as

(21:21):
a general manager, it's almost a fireable offense.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Where Colin was right well.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Aaron Rodgers twenty four The thirty two twenty four of
thirty two fan bases last week voted Aaron Rodgers' most
annoying quarterback. I've been saying for years. I'm not picking
on it. I'd vote him in the Hall of Fame
first ballot. I think he's smart, cerebral guy. I think
he's complex. I think he's interesting. But it's gotten to
a point over the last five or six years where

(21:47):
it's kind of like, OK, Aaron, we get it. You
don't get along with your family, you don't get along
with the media, you don't think the government's on the
up and up. I get it, but you are franchise
quarterback and that's the most important thing. But yeah, I've
been saying, not an anti Errand guy. Twenty four to
thirty two fan Basis said, yeah, that's the most annoying guy.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
Where Colin was right.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Titlin Clark. The WNBA just did not have any idea
she was going to be this good. According to the
Associated Press, a unanimous Rookie of the Year fourth and
MVP voting, she was also the most flagrantly fouled player,
which is a bit alarming. My takeaway has been we
said this when she was at college. She's Steph Curry.

(22:27):
She's got a shooting range that nobody else in the
league has. In fact, she's the first WNBA player ever
that led the league in assists and was top ten
in scoring. She is a you know, I mean that
the comps on Curry. People doubted Steph Curry had an
injury early and people bailed he was too small. There's
just nothing like her. Her tempo, her pace, her range.
She's an unbelievable player. She was gonna work on the WNBA.

(22:49):
I didn't know she'd be this good this fast. But
it's been remarkable to watch. Where Colin was right, where
Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, Cowboys, it was ugly yesterday. I no good news
for Dallas. I think it's good news. They have not
been very good in these high profile games against the
Green Bay or a Buffalo or a Ravens. They have
been very good against the Giants in Washington, where DAK
has forty percent of their wins. But Matt Hasselbeck came
in earlier and said, this Dallas team up front defensively

(23:26):
not great.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
I think defensively they were exposed by Baltimore. There were
so many double digit runs from Derrick Henry where no
one even touched him. Lamar's touchdown that it would have
been a touchdown in flag football.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
I think one of the best things that Dallas has
done in the past recently with their defense is they've
created turnovers. They're not playing great football, and they got
embarrassed at home. But you know, I would also just say,
like the best thing for them, I think they got
a Thursday night game against the New York Giants. It's
probably the best thing for them. Like they should come
out well, get back to basics. That opponent is not

(24:02):
a very difficult opponents in terms of like things that
scare you. They've got a little bit of explosiveness, but
not much so I think it's kind of the perfect
get right game for them.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, we'll see. They're five point favorites. Now. I watched
New York. They now have a number one receiver in Neighbors,
which is really added spark to their perimeter game makes
a much more viable. I like their coach, I like
their defensive front, giants, old lines playing. Okay, So the
truth is, if they had Saquon Barkley with this offensive
line in Neighbors, I think that Dallas thing, that's a

(24:35):
do w. I don't know if they can. I don't know.
Dallas coming off a humiliating loss, they should be a favorite.
If you look at the NFL schedule, and again, that's
a pretty good Thursday night game. The Thursday schedule on
Amazon's better this year. The numbers are up for them.
They've been better games. But again, the early window has
provided some real interesting stuff. So next week's early window

(24:56):
is you get Now, you get Saints Atlanta, and that's
an interesting game. In that division. Rams at Bears, Jmack
like Chicago is one of his favorite picks. How about
the Vikings at Green Bay. We did not think that
would be a marquee game. That's an early window game.
And now Jacksonville if they win tonight at Buffalo, if
they lose that game at Houston's the season Steelers colts.

(25:18):
Some of this stuff, I will say, I do not
think Denver is gonna is going to age well against
the Jets. That that feels like the Jets have extra
time to prepare. Sala's got extra time to prepare for
a rookie quarterback. I don't like predicting blowouts. I think
Cincinnati blows out Washington tonight, and I think the Jets

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blow out Denver next weekend. I don't like that spot
for Denver.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
So NFL favorites of five or more points this season favorites,
I bet you they're like one in eight, three and
thirteen against the spread.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Isn't that crazy? Now? I would guess the Jets are
a touchdown favorite. Yes, that's accurate. Oh is that right?
Are they? Oh? Wow? So yeah, that's that's a tough
spot rookie quarterback having to face the Jets and Aaron
Rodgers and that defense with an extra three days, back
to back road games, and it's all yeah, then you
got to go from Tampa across country back to Denver.

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Then you go back to New York. That is a
tough spot for Denn.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
We do have our first double digit spread of the season,
Niners ten and a half against Gered Mayo's New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay, but they get extra time to prepare the Niners.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I don't see them getting suddenly healthy, like a lot
of the guys are out.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's multi week injuries like see. I mean again, the
Patriots are a young team, so they get two three
days extra. I probably would stay away from that game.
I think San Francisco wins. I'm surprised you like the Bears.
You know that's your favorite bet of the week.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's early, it's I mean, it's Monday. We got to
see what's what is going on injury wise. I mean
there's a lot of uncertainty around the legue. Like Jordan
Love is he gonna play? Justin Herbert is he gonna play?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You know j Mack with.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
The news, No, no, this is the headline news.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Start with your or Los Angeles Rams winning a thriller.
They were down fourteen twenty one seven in the third quarter.
Then they hung around, let the forty nine ers make
a bunch of mistakes, and they won the game with
two seconds left on the clock. By the way, they
only led for two seconds in the entire game. Here's
Sean McVeigh after the dub.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
A lot of guts, a lot of grit. I'm really
proud of this group.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
I saw a team respond after a really humbling week
last week. And you know, three hours will never define
you good or bad unless you allow it to.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
And you know, we've got to do a good job of.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Being able to build on this.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
You know this game is going to be over.

Speaker 8 (27:33):
It's great to be able to get our first win
in the fashion that we were able to get it.
But how quickly can we make sure? Ay, let's look
at this, let's clean it up, and let's move forward.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, and Stafford again just kept slinging them down the field.
It was such a fun game. It reminded me of
the Eagles Falcons last Monday, where Atlanta's just hanging around,
hanging around. Philadelphia looks like the better team all gaming.
You wake up me you have a competent quarterback leading
your team down the field, and it's like, oh, what's

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going on.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I saw some of the numbers aren't fully out, but
I did see one that said the rams they loved
the three wide receiver sets. They ran none of those
yesterday apparently like zero plays. They were like heavy, two
tight five receivers. They should change everything. And the other
stat now again, Sanchez's on the telecast. He could tell
us Brock pretty had eight completions. According to the telecast,

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six of them were drops.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh yeah, by the night. That's staggering. No no between
the drops and the special teams specialties. Mcvey's always been
very detail orient on a special teams. The Niners are
very hit and miss, very hit.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Don't want to sound the alarm, but that schedules very
difficult injuries now mounting.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I told you this, I remember I said in the
off season j Mack. I said Dallas is going to
start a slow regression from twelve wins to ten. Okay,
and I think, and I told you San Francisco will
still be good, but I didn't pick him to win
the division. I said they have peaked because they're getting old.
And what's happened. The old guys are getting hurt. So,
I mean, I think the San Francisco Dallas regression was

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right in front of our eyes. You know, Minnesota is
a shock. Steeters are better than we thought. But how
many how many of these are you looking at and
going wow? It's you know, we're watching the young quarterbacks
all kind of scrap and figured it out. And bow
Knicks with an offensive coach, looks like he's a little
more advanced. Hey, that was a w baby. Yeah, all right,
speaking of bout Nicks, let's get to him. Second story.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
He listened.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
He did not have a touchdown pass, but he threw
for two hundred and sixteen yards, largely a flawless performancety
seven rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
He looked quick, No, he can move. Yeah, a little
jitterbug out there.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
And now here's Nicks after getting his first NFL victory.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, well, I got.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
To you only get this moment one time, and it's
not easy winning games in this league.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
But you know, our guys deserve this. Our guys have
earned this. We came out early and through the ball,
and then later in the game we have to run
the ball, and everybody in the stadium knows we're running
the ball and we were able to go and get
first downs that way.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
So as a complete, you know, offensive game, I thought, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
They started really really strong and Baker struggled. Love him,
but Baker on third down the last two weeks not
been good. Offense just can't. It doesn't look like it
knows exactly what it is.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Broncos had seven sacks, and listen, I know I joked
around about golf turning into a bit of a pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
You kind of wonder about Baker Mayfield maybe as well.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
He was running so hot those first two games, but
also everything.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Part of the hot was facing a Washington team which
I think is going to get smoked by Cincinnati tonight.
That's just not very good in the back end. So
you know, again, I think New Orleans is better. I
thought what they were doing was insane. I think what
New Orleans and Baltimore proved if you go look at
the first three quarters between those two teams, Dallas cannot
defend the run. They do not have the personnel. They're
not very good at linebacker. Dallas cannot. I mean it's

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like the same. And the Ravens, I mean, they just
came in and just said we're gonna run the ball.
We Philadelphia shutdown Alvin Kamara. Dallas had no shot, So
that tells you they're going into a game. Baltimore came
into the game in New Orleans like we're seeing the film.
We can run the ball. I mean they didn't even
try to hide it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
No, it's a little bit of a wacky start all
around of the season. Let's wrap up with Tonight's Commanders
Bengals game. You like the Bengals, I'm on the over here.
T Higgins is gonna make his debut. Missed the first
two weeks with a hamstring injury. Higgins said he's one
hundred percent Bengals looking to avoid an oh and three start.
I think I said earlier oh and two teams went
five and one yesterday.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, we've got to tonight. Cincinnati and Jacksonville. I like
both now. I think Jacksonville's narrow. I'll take the points.
I don't know if they win. I like Jacksonville in
the points, playing with desperation, But I think Cincinnati is
gonna go and go on a six game winning streak,
six or seven. I think Cincinnati's for real. They're getting healthier.
They're getting their guys back Cincinnati. You start looking at

(31:59):
that since you think they're gonna boat race the Ravens.
I didn't say boat race, but they're hosting the Ravens. Okay,
there's a lot now, no, No. Week ten eleven gets
a little dicey. But let's not overlook the Eagles. That's
not a LA. I'm not overlooking it. But they got
two turnovers from Jalen there baked in damn. That is
an easy schedule. It's not easy. It's the NFL.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
It's not favorable. I mean, especially Listen. Is justin Herbert
gonna be standing up Week eleven?

Speaker 6 (32:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
He was in a boot last month and now it's
in it again after three weeks.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
This is not great. Dude. If I got laryngitis, is
Mike is it over?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
It might be.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't know. Larry Chitas, you'd push me right out
of this chair under the curd mix.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
J Mack with the news, Well that's.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
The news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line
news boy.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Mark Sanchez, you know, I thought, well, I don't know
if LA can compete. He got the Game of the day.
Mark Sanchez, what a threading out nor it's gonna break
down tape at the end of the show, so I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna give away, but just say this.
We're not gonna go to the tape until after. But
I will say this is that the knock on Shannan
is olds. But he didn't care quite as much about

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special teams as he should. Don't ram special teams, man,
You talk about using the roster.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Well it it got him back in the game, right,
It gave him a little hope. And remember the week
before they had only run in Arizona eleven plays and
they're down twenty one nothing. It was flowing in that direction.
They had only run three offensive plays, went three and
out fast boom. Before they can blink, it's fourteen to nothing.
And I went, oh boy, this happened on the road

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last week. This might happen at home, although it's hard
to call that a home game. It was like a
sea of red seat almost show it in some of
the clips, but using silent cadence at your place down
that many players on offense. I thought one of the
big things that did work in their favor in spite
of being decimated by injuries.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Was the tackles, Yes, the tackles.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
Being there really helped Stafford because he can move in
the pocket in that short, little five yard box. But
if you have the two pillars outside and haven Stein
and Jackson, that really short things up. And then on
the inside they can use their combo blocks slide people.
But I mean he was Bosa didn't really sniff him
too much whole.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Game, you know, got frustrated.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
I thought, I thought he would have a chance to
tee off on some of those guys, and they kept
him upright and Stafford diced him up.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Man, that was that was so impressive.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
But he mentioned j Mack mentioned not eleven personnel right,
one back, one tight end, three wide receivers. That's almost
exclusively what the Rams do. They lead the league in it. Yeah,
and they don't have to worry about bass personnel and boom,
they're in sub runs Nickel all the time. They went
twelve for the first time I've ever seen, and it
was all they had. They said, all right, this is

(34:57):
what we're rolling with. And they hit him with run
up the middle. They hit him with runs that bounce outside.
Michael for uh, what a what a run game plan?
And coach Wendy, their offensive line coach. I mean, dude,
it was. It was incredible just to see their grit.
They talked about it all week. We interviewed them on Friday.
And it's one thing to say, hey, you know, we

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got to be enthusiastic, Hey, you know we got embarrassed.
You know we're gonna do it. It's another thing to
do it after you're down fourteen to nothing, with you're
staying around looking for playmakers.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That it's unbelievable. Yeah, So I was saying this. The
Kansas City dynasty started with high flying it was decl
Now it looks like New England coach Quarterback defense situationally brilliant.
This team plays with so much confidence in close games
that I wonder if they get into your head. Well,
I think a lot of it.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
I thought Hassenback made a really good point that the
quarterback intimidates you before you know, without even doing anything right.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
He's just that aura of that guy, and you.

Speaker 9 (35:57):
Know you got to play well because you know he's
going to play well those specific situations. I think a
lot of it is just personnel driven, and as they're
developing guys like Worthy, as they're developing speedsters. If you
don't have Tyreek Hill, if you don't have somebody like that,
if Kelsey's not you know, firing on all soldiers right
this second, in the first quarter of the season. Okay,

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we'll figure it out. Yeah, and we're gonna share the
bulkal load. Then we'll disperse some of our carries. We'll
get some other ball carriers here. We'll lean heavy on
the defense. They're gonna have to steal us a possession,
you know, Harrison Bucker, You're gonna have to, you know,
give us nine points today, you know what kind of thing,
and whatever it takes. We don't care what these wins
look like. They come in all shapes and sizes. We

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just want the wins. And I feel like the lack
of ego on that team, and it starts at the
top with Andy Reid. It doesn't matter. And every game
there's a new formula. You know, there's always the same
formula taking care of the football, you know, situational awareness, whatever.
But it's gonna look a little different all the time.
And that's okay, that is totally okay. We just keep

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stacking our chips, stacking our chips, and we'll see you
after we win fourteen games, homefield advantage. That's where they
win home field advantage. It's the first six out of
the gate. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
That's why they play at Arrowhead right in the playoffs. Yeah.
So you broke into this league and you had a
defensive coach, and you had a couple of offensive pieces.
You got moor As you stayed. But I watched Pittsburgh
and I don't know if you can win Super Bowls.
You got darn close. But let's not kid ourselves. Great defense, intensity,

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enough big plays. I mean I saw Trent Bill run,
you know. I mean, I watched Pittsburgh and I'm like,
that's not sustainable. And then I see they're playing Anthony
Richardson this week and I'm like, dude, you go four
and oh you can? I mean, you can hamm an
egget until week sixteen. You're a ten win team. What
do you see with Pitchburgh?

Speaker 9 (37:46):
Well, once again, personnel driven and their offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.
He loves to run the football, That's what he does,
and he can come up with some great schemes. He's
done it all the way back to when he was
at Tennessee and had a heck of a rushing attack
in Atlanta at times in spurts, you know, and now, hey,
we got a quarterback who can move our starters down.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Shoot, the receivers might not be thrilled, but yeah, we're
going to stack some wins here as best we can.
And they really struggled to do that last year. So
if you're going to run it with the QB, you know,
we can give them timely completions.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's a lot of what my rookie year was like.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
Yes, it wasn't until my second year that we really
started to open things up, and a lot of it
was necessity because we were down in the fourth quarter
by a score or you know, ten points, and so
it's like, okay, we're either going to rush the ball
forty times like we wanted to, right or we're going
to go try and win the game. Yeah, so here
we go. Good luck with the two minute lists, you know,

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and we started throwing the ball more. But that's another formula,
And if that's their formula, you better strap up for
that game because.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
They're they're going to hit you. They're gonna leave you
sore because you were doing your game. And I understand
sometimes It's hard to see all this stuff, but I
know I keep waiting for a little bit. I'm watching
these coaches do a great job of coach reckless out
of players. Malik Willis justin fields, the Sam Donald thing. Mark.

(39:11):
I watched them, and Houston's good. Now they didn't have
Joe Mixon. But after three weeks of seeing the exact
same thing, I think I buy Minnesota. I mean, I
know this division now. Yeah, Detroit's offense, by the way,
there's thirty five carries. Green Bay is gonna get Jordan
love back. I think I buy this. Oh.

Speaker 9 (39:33):
I love what's going on in Minnesota. I know it's
still early, but the only question on that roster coming
into the season.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Was the quarterback.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
Yeah, if that guy can perform, we're gonna be fine.
I don't care if it's you know, the rookie that
ended up getting hurt, McCarthy or Sam Donald, whoever's there.
Just drive the ship, get us in and out of
good place. I'll put you in good spots. When I say,
I am saying Kevin O'Connell, yeah, and you just manage it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
For me.

Speaker 9 (40:01):
There's gonna be about four really important crucial decisions that
you got to make get me out of trouble once
or twice and then make some really good decisions on
fourth down or third down.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
Let these guys play and when I dial up a
shot and it's there, chuck it, dude. And he happened
to hit the ninety seven yarder, you know sure? And
I just love to see you could tell his feet
or right, his timing's on his eyes in the right place.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
Everything is just in a McVeigh offense, in a Shanahan
offense with O'Connell, with Andy Reid, all that stuff, the footwork,
the timing, the sequencing of plays, the way the plays
look the same, the runs and the run action, play action.
It all matters. And there's there's a rhyme and a
reason to all of it. If you get a guy

(40:48):
to understand the big picture and then nail down that
week's game plan, you got a chance. At least you
got a chance. Keep it close to the fourth quarter
and let's go, let's see what happens. And then you
put Flora's defense out there, like come on, man, I mean,
they're just you know, making people look silly.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
C J. Stroud and Brock Purty said after their games
against Minnesota. Yeah, I've never seen these coverages. And San
fran San Francisco was at full strength. That was Kittle,
that was Debo, that was Ayuke, that was everybody.

Speaker 9 (41:15):
So it's not like they played him this past week
and not taking anything away from the Rams, but I
mean Minnesota got the full version and that's a really
good football team and they're not totally healthy yet. Oh yeah,
and they got after him. Fred Warner kept him in
the game by punching the ball out and stuff, getting
the interception, but Vikings handled them.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, all right, we got video Mark so good at this,
some Stafford stuff, some brock Purty stuff. Brock was dealing
it early and more late. We'll have Bulk next live
in La the Herd.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and Noone Eastern not a em Pacific.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well, we're watching young quarterbacks struggle, older quarterbacks getting second
chances like Andy Dalton tearing it up. But yesterday Mark
had the pleasure of watching Matt staff Afford and Brock
perty won a seventh rounder and won the best high
school college quarterback. He was a phenom, went to Detroit
now he's got his sort of you know, he's got

(42:11):
his guy, he's got his guru, he's got Sean McVay.
So let's go to the tape on a couple of
Stafford moment. They are a perfect pair.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
And you got to say before we talk about Safford
party played his fans bought off yesterday, so well had
him in position to win, needed a couple more plays
from his guys. But I loved his effort for Stafford.
I mean, the guy continues to put on a masterclass.
You're down players, and it goes back to fundamentals. It
goes back to basic rules on easy plays. Right half

(42:43):
back option, half that choice, old school West Coast play.
You got to have a back to run it. So
roll the clip and you're gonna see Kyen Williams. He's
got a three way go out of the backfield. But
they start in the pistol, move him a little bit.
Want to see how people react to it. Right, it
looks like the backers bump over obviously devone at Campbell,
who's in the highlight there is going to have the back.

(43:03):
Now Stafford's holding his eyes down the middle and not
completely staring at Kyen Williams, which takes a lot of
trust because Fred Warner's hunting down that middle of the field.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
That's his job.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
He's staring at Stafford. Stafford's holding him. Everybody else is
playing outside leverage, Manda Man and they want a funnel
everything back to Fred Warner. It's called cover one hole
or eleven hole because it's sub personnel, so he's the
whole player in his job is like old school Detroit Pistons.
He'll just knock your head off if you come through
the key. The middle of the field is the key,

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so kyen, he can sit down if it's zone, but
this is man, so he's not going to So he's
either going to break out or hit the home run post.
And Stafford trusts it knows the coverage keeps Fred Warner
in his spot. And watch this tight window throw that
he makes. This is what won them the game, these
tight window throws. Most guys want to see the running

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back do it. Stafford's got him in the corner of
his eye, knowing what's happening, confirming the coverage holding Fred Warner,
and then poom like.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Are you kidding? That is so good? That is so good?

Speaker 9 (44:10):
And you get the post maybe two out of ten times,
you get the sit probably six out of ten times,
and then mostly the breakout or whatever, like it doesn't
happen like that, and guys throw picks to that middle
linebacker and cover one hole on halfback choice. We saw
over and over and over like people do it all
the time, and some coaches just take it out of

(44:31):
the plan say you can't handle this. This is too hard,
because it's really hard to get that done. It takes
a ton of discipline. Stafford's got it in spates. The
other one I loved is game on the line down
in the red zone again, so we saw this is
another red zone coverage, but they're gonna play two deep
safeties basically like a Cover two red or like a
Red four. It can kind of morph depending on the

(44:54):
routes you run. Basically zone, keep everything in front.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
So roll the.

Speaker 9 (44:57):
Clip and you're gonna see this defender is going to
tell the story of whether it's man or zone.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
He saw in the last clip he was right over
the slot guy.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
This time he's splitting the difference between the tackle and
the nick and the slot receiver.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
He's in that apex.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Stafford knew it before they even motioned anybody, and he
has to run up to the line of scrimmage and
start screaming at everybody because look, they got to see
it Red there. Nobody can hear him in his own stadium.
The place is going nuts because the Niners are up
and the Rams are trying to go back and win.
And what do we say on Sunday. There's no secrets
on Sunday. Everything is a group test. Tell your buddy.

(45:34):
He literally too two out. Well told Robinson, hey, bro
go block Diamador Lenor. He checked to the run, then
to triple conferment. They run the counter motion here. This
was originally a pass. Stafford kills it to a run.
Dotson's got to look back at his quarterback once again.
We're going silent cadence at home. That's ridiculous. They're calling

(45:54):
this place Levi South. That's like embarrassing. So but Stafford
does care. Cools the other side of the pillow doesn't
bother him. Look where Fred Warner's at. He had to
move over once the back hopped over from right to left.
Fred was under the g right there. Now these three
players that need to get to the second level. Watch
how they do it in Unison. It's like synchronized swimming

(46:16):
in the Olympics. This is unbelievable. Those guys are covered
up as soon as Karen gets the ball.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Are you kidding me? That's like perfect coach Wendy A. Plus.

Speaker 9 (46:25):
Karen gets the ball, he hasn't even broken the line
of scrimmage. Nobody knows it's a touchdown. Stafford does immediately immediately.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
It was I mean to.

Speaker 9 (46:36):
Have trust in these calls, to trust your quarterback number
nine to get everything orchestrated with the silent cadence, the
guard looking at him, tapping his foot, motioning guys, they
communicate the three guys getting to the second level. That
is so hard in such a chaotic situation. And you're
asking guys to do it who've only done it in

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training camp and might not have even done it with.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
The backups exactly.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
So that was they're coaching their butt off over there
in La Man.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Did you see mcveigh's pass game. Oh, he was literally
elevating off the floor.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Yes, and to I mean people at home have to
understand those that rollercoaster of emotions from one week to
the next, penhouse, the outhouse and right back. You know
what I mean they get smoked on the road last week.
You know how easy it would have been for these
guys to just roll over at fourteen and nothing. Obviously

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we're seeing some of the tough plays for the Niners,
but these special teams plays, I mean, the guy's never
touched the football in the NFL gets your guys set
up to.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Win the game.

Speaker 9 (47:38):
Come on with a bigger return like that, getting the
pass interference call, Stafford knowing what to do, and then
CARDI kick it on me.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
When you do brog party, we have a couple of
minutes when you do it broad So it's such an
advantage when I go to a game to watch what
a quarterback sees. You can see it on film, but
on TV it doesn't show you where are the safeties,
where's the coverage? Where they're shifting? Give me your give
me your sense of what brock Purty is without Christian
deebo Kittle.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
Well, listen, he's on that track to being one of
these great West Coast quarterbacks. And I don't mean geographically
West Coast. I mean West Coast offense from Shanahan and
that whole tree. He goes to the line of scrimmage
with multiple options. The guy's incredibly accurate, he's got great feet,
and he can escape and get out of trouble just enough. Yeah,
I mean, he's a perfect West Coast quarterback. Then you

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put those playmakers around him, and he delivers the football
the way he does, you're always gonna have a chance
with this guy. Once again, these games come down to
one score generally. Every once in a while he gets
smoked on the road, like like the Rams last week
in Arizona, but not always. And when it's close, if
you can keep it close and you got a quarterback
that can take care of the football, you got a chance.

(48:47):
Look at I mean, we're we're calling the Rams at
the Bears. Stafford takes care of the football. Caleb has
not taken care of the football right now. Difference two
interceptions the last two games. Yeah, he didn't even play
great in his open but they won because he didn't
give the ball away. And it's easy to say that
from this chair, right, it's really hard to do. But

(49:08):
I mean part of that is setting him up with confidence,
get him, you know, stacking completions early, and then there's
got to be a switch in his head. There's got
to be this say uncle mentality, and every play is not.
It's designed to win. It's drawn up to win. It
has potential to win, but it doesn't always win. And

(49:29):
when it doesn't win, get me back to the line
of scrimmage, get down, throw the ball away, give a
fan a souvenir with the football, like that's got to
be their mentality moving forward. And they got to be
able to run the football. You got to help your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Man. They're not running the ball. So what are you
going to a minute? Laft? What will you? You got
a good one, Chicago Rams is because teams that play
the Niners come out use you a little dinged up.

Speaker 9 (49:51):
Oh and that emotional high of coming back, I mean
they're gonna be That's that's a big one for it.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Will you look for from Caleb Listen.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
I think their run game really has to help him
early and then his play action game as soon as
he flips his back to the defense and flips his
eyes around. I think he's going to get some great
tape from that Niners team, who I think abandoned that
run a little bit. They could have stuck with Jordan
Mason a little bit. So don't abandon the run. Run
it right at these guys on the rams. Look at
the Arizona tape. Watch that what did Kyler Murray do?

(50:21):
Didn't turn the football over, got out of trouble when
he needed to.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (50:25):
And if he can handle that, he's going to have success.
But you know, you know the guy at number nine
is coming in there, and that dude's an absolute surgeon, right,
He's incredible and he's playing at such a high level.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
So yeah, when you go to these meetings, you've had
multiple meetings with multiple production meetings on coaches, just to
tell the audience, do they give you a little little
tells and do they give you absolutely?

Speaker 9 (50:48):
Well, if you show that you've actually put in the
work right, like, you got to come with some good questions.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
This week actually was funny.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
I asked a terrible question to coach McVeigh and I
just said, well, what do you do? You got all
these guys down, can you run the exact same stuff?
And he goes, what the hell do you think?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Mark? I said, that was a bad question. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 9 (51:08):
I apologize, But it was more of like trying to
get them to talk about, Okay, what's the next move?
What's the next step and so knowing that they're going
to run a little more twelve personnel going into the
game really helped me frame it for the viewer in
my opinion, because it gives you so many more run options.
It's not something that the Rams do a lot, not
something that the Niners were prepared for, and they trot

(51:29):
out Hunter Long and Colby Parkinson and that was the
bulk of the game plan. So stuff like that really
helps in those meetings. Obviously, it's privileged information, you know,
so you can't there's nothing to say about it to
anybody until after the fact, and you just appreciate how
hard they work and how much they trust us. But
it's fun getting to talk to these guys.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Man hassel Beg, Mark Sanchez, good for us today and
a Monday, Mark, thank you so much. There's Rams good,
good week of studying for him. We'll see you tomorrow.
It's the Herd.