September 24, 2024 • 29 mins
Bills OL Dion Dawkins joins the show to talk about their dominant 3-0 start to the season and why he keeps an eye on the Chiefs all season long
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Ian Dawkins. Bill's offensive tackle. That their offensive line a
lot of moving parts. He is the rock, he is
the left tackle. He's a three time Pro bowler, all
in the last three years. He'll be joining us around
the corner first. So Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Excited for Dion Dawkins. Remember last year he came on
the show. We made a bet about Week one and
then the Jets one and he welched kind they remind
him of that. Let's get started with the Steelers, Colin.
They were gonna have Russell Wilson under center this season,
but a calf injury well pave the way for Justin
Fields and now he's three in l We still Mike
Tomlin is fielding questions from the.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Media about who's going to be his quarterback. Here's what
he had to say.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
What more do you need to see from Justin? Why
not name him the starting quarterback? Because there's no need.
You know, I explained to you the variables of the week.
It has not changed. He's gonna walk in this building
with that mindset. Tomorrow when Russ gets to an appropriate
point of health and we have a decision to make,
I'll make it, and I'll announce it, and I'll be
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really transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
By the way, did you ever think you'd see Justin
Fields completing seventy three percent of his throws? There are
a lot of good coaches in this league. I mean,
Brian Flores at Minnesota defensively, forget Kevin o'calmer's second Brian
Flores is literally c J. Stroud's like seeing He's like,
I've never seen this, brought perty is like day through
stuff I've ever seen. Arthur Smith goes into Tennessee makes
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Ryan Tannehill. I think, wasn't he the coordinate?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Was he? Look?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't know if it was here with Flora. I
forget who it was. I think, but I mean, obviously
Arthur didn't work as a head coach, but clearly he
is defining things for Justin Fields to see because our
knock was always he holds the ball too long and
he turns it over. He's taken out the reckless and
he's clearly designing play justin seeing the field better. I
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think there's a bigger you know, we always think there's
a big gap between coaches and quarterbacks in this league.
I think there's a big gap in like coordinators in
this league. What what Brian Flores is doing in Minnesota,
what Arthur Smith is doing. I never thought Justin Fields,
I mean I always wonder. I mean, he was like
a sixty percent completion guy, and it was he didn't
look like he always had good footing.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It's interesting because we're seeing a like a rebirth of
guys who were considered flops or.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Bus right Justin Field's eye as a bus and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now he's looking pretty competent in Pittsburgh, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield.
Maybe some of these guys just weren't ready coming out
of college and the NFL was just too much too soon.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And then Gino Smith add to the list.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Collins, I mean, I think this happens all the time.
Based on the family you grew up with, the culture,
some people mature differently. You know, Tom Brady came in
very mature. Baker has matured, right, didn't come in as mature.
Some guy, you know, some guys never mature. But there
are guys that based on your family and the culture
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you grew up with. And you know, some kids have
great high school coaches and they really I mean, look,
a great example of this is Quinn Yours, who was
a little bad diet, bad mechanics, and he gets under
Sark and like the last seven or eight games I've
seen Quinn Yours like, oh, he's just a different player. So,
I mean there's there's parenting and coaching and your peer group.
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Not everybody is ready at twenty two years old to
run a franchise.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And let's remember Jordan Love, who you love a lot,
sat for I believe three seasons, just sat on the bench.
Can you imagine if Justin Field sat for three years
and this was our first look at him.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh, this guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, but you know, Green Bay didn't have a lot
of chaos. Pittsburgh doesn't have a lot of chaos. Yeah,
Baltimore doesn't have a lot of chaos. I mean, I've
never been against Lamar Sat, I mean mahomes Sad. I
have no problem.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, maybe we need to you know, not just us,
but collectively the media, like stop just tossing guys in
the trash after like six games.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know what I should do with right and Wrong? Colin?
Right and wrong? Instead of every Monday, maybe I should
do it every like seven years, because I like some
of this stuff that was way wrong looks right. But
you weren't wrong. You were just early.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You were way early on Darnald.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I depend on my executives in the NFL for opinions.
I call and ask if I don't know, they all
like Donald now, they all said mechanically, a lot of
hero ball needs the right fit. Whereas with like but you,
we're finding with Caleb Williams, no matter how talented you are,
fit matters. Mean Andrew looks out of the league. That
fit didn't work eventually.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Let me ask you, does this give hope Trey Lance
Mac Jones, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, I think Trey's got a fundamental accuracy and mechanical thing.
Zach Wilson. I think small doesn't see the field.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I don't know, hold on time out, Sorry, justin fields
was inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Justin field is three and oh one touchdown here, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He was inaccurate in Chicago. Couldn't complete it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Whether they're not asking a ton of him. So let's
let's let's I think this team's gonna win. I thought
they'd be like a seven eight win team. They'll probably
be a ten to eleven win team based on their start.
But let's let's slow down. It's he didn't look as
good as Jayden Daniels did last night. I mean, Jayden
looked like he saw the fields what so and Jaden
on a Jayden looks better in his third game than
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Justin's ever looked in any game, and so like like
I didn't put them in, you know, my top ten,
like like in the end, give me another week or two,
but I but I do think it's encouraging. What I've
seen with Justin is that with the right coordinator, he
doesn't look as frenetic, he doesn't look as rushed. He
just looks calm. And he's always been a nice guy,
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like everybody likes him. Nobody I know has ever bad
mouthed him. Like there's no goofy or arrogant. He's a
good guy, and now I think he's got the good coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
All right, let's go to UH number one pick, Caleb Williams.
He has not been the best quarterback in a draft class.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Through three games.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You could argue he's been behind Bow Knicks and Jamie Daniels.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
However, Caleb did have three hundred plus yards, a couple
of touchdowns, did have two interceptions, and was sacked four times.
One anonymous NFL executive believes caleb struggles and Chicago's problems
are due to having the worst offensive line, offensive coordinator,
and head coach in the NFC North. That's a lot
to overcome. I don't think you could argue the coach
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Dan Campbell's been better. Right, we know Lafleur is very
good and Kevin O'Connell's great.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, I think that he's also the only defensive coach
in an offensive division. I think the thing about Caleb.
Even if they get Caleb right, would this be the
right coach for innovation? Creativity? Probably not so. Also, the
cheapest ownership groups. I mean we said this before he
got there. Is he good enough to overcome Chicago's nonsense?
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Because it's the same owners I can't believe how badly
the offensive line is regressed. And that that to me
is I've told you this many times with a Bosa.
Sean McVay patch worked his offensive line this past week
to win a game, and he reads rebuilt his own line.
Pittsburgh's now in about the seventh year, are trying to
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get it right with Tomlin. Pete Carroll's offensive lines were
always hit and miss. There is something to be said
about offensive line, something about the offensive coaches. Go look
at the offensive line rankings the last couple of years
in the league and the bottom the bottom is a
lot of defensive coaches, a top, a lot of offensive coaches.
I cannot believe how bad the offensive line's got in
Chicago overnight.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Offseason, Hey let's go get DeAndre Swift, Keenan Allen Romadunze.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Did they address the offensive line?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, I thought last year it was okay. I thought
that got the right tackles.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It's just bad.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So, by the way, is this a good coaching job?
If he refuses fired, would Belichick be like, hey, I'm interested.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know people you know, Yeah, that's a very good question.
So I I always hear this before, like, hey, you
want the most challenging thing, and that part of Brady's
greatness was that he always had a home playoff game
or a bye because Miami and the Jets were so
poorly run. It wasn't until Josh Allen entered the division
that Brady's like, I mean, I win this thing every year.
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There is an advantage. I look around and I'm like,
I gotta face Matt Lafleur every year twice in that
organization they draft as well as it. I gotta face now,
Kevin O'Connell whether it's done. And by the way, Detroit's
front office, whether you like Campbell or not, the Lions
executive suite is aces. They are great. It ain't the
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best job.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
O'Connell and Lafleur probably two of the best seven or
eight coaches in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and they've got I mean, Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur.
You gotta face that for two years.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I just don't know about a Belichick Caleb Williams marriage.
I don't know how that would work, because you know,
Belichick rides his players hard. I don't know how Caleb's
gonna react.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It probably doesn't. Isn't a great no, No, I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I I think Belichick's going to stay in the northeast.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Ohio state coach wins the national championship and then ye day.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Now let's let's go get a formidable coach that's one
in the NFL. Okay, no more coordinators, not college guy,
Let's go get a.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Guy all right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Final story is a Seattle Seahawks three and oh for
the first time since twenty twenty. They made the playoffs
each of the last five times they've started three and oh.
New head coach Mike McDonald is the first head coach in.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Team history to open with three straight wins. He knows
they can be even better.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
We've done enough to win each game that we've played.
There's a lot of great stuff on tape, but we're
also at the beginning stages of this team and who
we're going to become, and the guys know that. It's
very clear when you when you watch the tape where
we need to improve, and there's a great opportunity for
us to improve. It's so early in the season. We're
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in a great position. Obviously, it's way better than the
opposite and so we're excited about that. But there's a
sense of urgency too on where this football team needs
to go.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm not saying they're Kansas City. They're not because Mahalmes Gino.
But when you watch Seattle and the speed on both
sides of the ball, do they run they are, That's
that's one of the faster teams in the league. They're corners,
they're receiving group do they They just move the lead
the NFL right now in NFL grades And they're fast
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and they're young, so they don't get you know, younger
players don't get hurt as often, and when they get hurt,
they're back sooner. That's why the Niners are falling apart.
It's an old team.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So the crappy news for the Lions. By the way,
Lion Seahawks is Monday Night football.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Great game.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Lions are favored by four, three and zero. Seattle is
a four point dog on the road. The Lions center
was just ruled out rag now out big loss. But
Seattle's got injuries on the defensive front. That's gonna be
a great This might be the best.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Game of the week on Monday den football.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, it's Monday Night. It's a big spot for a
young Seattle team. Monday Night matters. It feels like another
point in a point and a half. I mean, if
Buffalo and Jacksonville played at one on Sunday, would it
have been forty seven to ten. It felt like Jacksonville
just wasn't ready for the moment.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And primetime in Buffalo's all juiced up.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You don't think the Detroit fans are going to be
going nuts, like get out of work early.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This is one I think this spot is also Detroit
finally last week figured it out. They ran the football
a lot. I think Gibbs and Montgomery told led thirty
five carries like that, that's how that's what they they
they've got now. They had a great hook and lateral.
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But if my take on Detroit is what they did Sunday,
that's how they should play.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, it's a big step up in last for Seattle
to face Jared Goff, Ben Johnson this offense.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, I still think there's some I don't know
what what quite it is.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
There's something not quite right with Detroit. So in a
standalone game or Monday night game, I'll be able to.
But it's when you got nine games on your watch
them on a TV, you're kind of like, Okay, they're
running the football, but.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They just don't seem like last year's Detroit, which.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is like, yeah, just well basic. Last year they were
the hunter. Now that the hunted, and that is a
thing some organizations are, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And people are picking up on Ben Johnson's tendencies, like
where he wants to go with the football.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm around Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We know Laporta got dinged up and just a lot
of weirdness in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
J Mack with the news, Well, that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
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Speaker 1 (13:01):
There is a like I don't mind celebrations after touchdowns,
although I think you're paid to score touchdowns, so I
you know, everybody's paid to do a job. I don't
think you have to spend a lot of time celebrating
when you do your job. But I also think sports
is very emotional and you've worked very hard and when
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you score, you should you know, it's okay to high
five and jump up and pump your fist a little bit.
But Bill Belichick was talking about Patrick Mahomes and and
told Pat McAfee he said, one of the things that
really jumped out to me last night was they interviewed
Mahomes and they're three and zero and could easily sit
there and say they're on course. Here we go again,
big win in Atlanta. But here's Mahomes talking about how
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bad they're playing, and here is Mahomes on the early struggles.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I feel like I haven't played very well, and that's
not a stats thing. I just feel like I'm missing
opportunities whenever they're out there and not throwing the ball
in the exact spot I want it to be at.
So it's about me getting back to my fundamentals, putting
our guys in the right position, and then we got
to execute at a higher level offensively. If teams are
gonna make us drive the field, we have to prove
that we're able to do that. And I'm sure we'll
get a lot of the same this next week with
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
One of the things I like about Mahomes, and I'm
gonna sound like an old fart, but you know, Baker
Mayfield emotionally and maturity wasn't quite ready to be the guy,
and Jamis Winston never was, and Johnny Manziel wasn't and
Cam kind of was physically or he was physically there.
There is something to be said coming into this league
like mature. And maybe it's because his dad was a
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major league baseball player, but you know, Baker Mayfield wasn't
quite ready emotionally, Andrew Luck was. Now Baker had better
teammates and a better offensive line in a better run game.
But there there is you know. I mean, I didn't
know Tom Brady had a personality until he went the
Tampa so I and I know if somebody once told
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me this, do you care about the right stuff? And
when the mahomes, he cares about the work, he cares
about the wins. He's got a lot of movement around him.
You know, his brother, his wife has you know, got
a social media presence and he's a star and it's
just Travis Kelcey and it's a big loud bunch of
stuff around him. And he just cares about the right stuff.
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And I think there's some real value in it. I
don't think he gets credit for this, but it would
be so easy. I mean, guys that didn't achieve anything
in the NFL. I mean they're on nineteen commercials. I
see some of these commercials that are playing, and I'm like,
will Levice get off the commercials? Dude, you're not good
enough to have him, you know. And I used to
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say this about Baker. You're a good actor. Spend more
time on the playbook, less time to I don't care
if it's off season on season there. Tom Brady wouldn't
do commercials until like eight nine years in, and he
included his offensive linemen there. Now you say, well, what Mahome.
I didn't see any rookie year Mahomes commercials. Now He's
all over him the minute he won the MVP and
they started winning super Bowls. But I just feel like
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with Mahomes, he cares about the right stuff and he's
self critical. And I don't think it's as easy as
you think. Somebody said that. Trent Dilford told me this
year's ago. He goes, when you lose in the NFL,
everybody acts the same. They're pissed and they work hard.
He goes, it's the difference in the NFL is what
happens when you win, and you win a lot. That's
where guys go sideways. When you lose, you're humbled, you
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get barked at, you work hard, you want to redeem yourself.
Losing's actually easy because you know you have to work hard.
But when you win and you get commercial offers and
you get all the upside stuff, that's when it's harder.
How do you handle winning? And I think, you know,
I think Mahomes handles it the right way, and I
think it's much more difficult than anybody would want to acknowledge.
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There's a lot of movement around Kansas City. You got
Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey family, those wife's got a presence,
like there's a lot of stuff. Harrison Buckner, there's a
comment here that didn't bother me. But you know, the
media firestorm around and you're winning trophies every year. Every
game is prime time, almost every game is standalone. Mahomes is,
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he's a unicorn. Most people his age couldn't handle this stuff.
He's sharp and Belichick's right on the money.
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Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well. He's the highest graded offensive lineman for the Buffalo
Bills the last seven years. He's on his way to
a Hall of Fame level. Seven years in the NFL,
three Pro Bowls, he doesn't miss games, and now he's
got his own podcast studio. So this guy is a player.
Dion Dawkins, Bill's offensive tackle, joined us. Every year I
look at this guy, Look at this guy, look at
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that Holy well, you got like you you're like a mogul.
What how you doing? So I gotta ask you, you
know what's happened with Buffalo? And I've said this before.
You guys break my heart every year, but this year
feels different. And the reason it feels different, Dion, I
think you have a better run game I think he
had last year. At another tight end, I feel like
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the offense is got more chess pieces me watching. Does
it feel like that to you?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Yes, I would say that our team has more chess pieces.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That's a beautiful way to put it.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Our team has a whole board of pieces that can
be moved in place to get the job done. I
feel like in the previous years, like everybody knew exactly
where the football was going, which is cool, Like we
had digs and we had those guys gave we knew
exactly where the ball and was going. Now we have
a whole rolodex of guys that could do it. We
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could leave the ball in Cook's hand, we could put
it in Dalton ten, we could put it in Knox's hand.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
We could put it in thirteen.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
We could put it in put it on zero like,
we could put it on ten, we could put it
on fifteen like. We could put it on so many
different guys at any point in the game. And I
think that that's what is keeping the game more exciting
and more fun, because don't nobody know where that ball
is going, Like if you have a long down, like
everybody knew the ball was going to step on And
now since we had the change up change, you know,
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it could go to so many and different pieces.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
But I think that you just put it best. It
is kind of like a like a bigger chess board.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know. It's interesting when you get into a game
like last night, and for you, I mean, you don't
miss games. You dominate people, But not every That's not
the way it works for most players. Early in that
game last night, when you guys huddle and you're just
doing whatever you want to do, could you sense by
the second drive Dion could you sense like they don't
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want to smoke, like this is just gonna be our night?
Did you know it before it kind of exploded?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Man, I wish that I could say yes. I really
do wish that I could say yes. I do think
that you know what, Yes, I would say yes. I
think after the first drive and everything worked to our
accord because you're like, we like we practice, we have
a game plan, so h every game we just have
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to execute our game plan. And when it when we
executed our game plan as fluently as and we did,
it's it's a great feeling.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Like I know, our goal, like when we touched the
football is we want to score. Every time we touched
the ball.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Every time the offense gets on the football field, we
want to score. So the first two possessions, when we
got on the field and we scored, it was like,
all right, this is this is going in the right
direction of the coaches put a good game plan in
and we're going to execute this at a high level
and it's working. But up front, like as an offensive line,
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like we had a tough, a tough battle, like like
I had to play against against Josh and it was a.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
It was a battle every rep.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
And I know Spencer and was battling Connor, Cybo and
Dave like every single rep. Like we were battling up front,
which made it a good thing for our offense. But
since we did our job, it just made it a
little bit easier for for seventeen.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You know, as I was watching the game last night,
and maybe I'll sound like a fanboy here, but there's
two places in the NFL that I always think that
if you were drafted Green Bay in Buffalo, and I'm
watching that game last night, like everybody's got a jersey on,
and do you ever just think, Damn, I got lucky,
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I got Buffalo, I got Josh Allen, I got a
capable I mean, there's a lot of guys coming this league, meon,
and they don't get the coach, they get a bad quarterback,
you get traded four times. I'm watching Buffalo last night,
I'm like, man, this thing's gonna work for like eight
more years. You may never have to go and you
play the right position. You ever think that or that
stuff stuff guys like me talk about.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Now, that is the honest truth.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm a true believer and God, and you know, everything
happens for a reason, Like I grew up shoveling snow.
Then I get drafted to a place where I could
shovel snow every day in my life, you know, Buffalo
is just that.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
And then I get UH. The first year, I get
blessed with with with with.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
The presence of being around Tyrod, Taylor and Peterman. And
then the following year, here comes Josh Allen and when
I'm there and then it's just like, all right, every
piece of this is coming together the right way. Like
I had OG's that were around me early, which made
me feel like I was supposed to be there to
implement what was going to be for the future. I
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had Richie Incognito, Eric Wood, I had, I had OG's
Lashawn McCoy, like I had these these heavy hitter players
that you know, implemented what they implemented in me early.
And then I got to throw it over to Josh
and these guys, which now I have a team of
leaders that is helping this this thing grow. But I
do think that things happen for a reason. I am
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thankful that I am here, and you are correct with
being here. It is extremely unique. Bill's Mafia is UH
is one of those places where you could be alignment
and feel like a quarterback, can be a long snapper
and feel like a quarterback as well. And I'm pretty
sure that Green Bay is the same way. And I'm
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thankful for an organization and a community like this that
makes us feel like that, because who doesn't want to
be someplace.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
That they're not wanted? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Like?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Who wants to be there? But this place makes you
feel extremely wanted. So I tip my hat to Buffalo
every day. And that's why I give so much passion
and I speak with so much passion. I talk about
him because this place is one of a kind and
you know, yeah, yeah, and he did.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
But everything is better when you're winning.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But I want to talk to about DeMar Hamlin's first
interception last night, that agile layer. There's there's a layer
with this team, and you talked about God earlier. There
are things work in mysterious ways, and we watch what happened,
how emotional it was. Now he gets an interception. What
was kind of the reaction. I mean, that's a pretty
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special moment in a career. What was that LIKEE.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Yeah, you know when it happened, I didn't even realize
it was his first pick. I really didn't like. I like,
I've seen dam and make plays, but the reaction was exciting.
The stadium went crazy, yeah, crazy, three three went crazy,
and everybody's excitement made everybody excited. So we were all
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excited just to be excited for Dam which I called
him Slam.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Like we we We.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Were just excited to see this kid that has gone
through one of the most tragic things in life and
then come back and then be playing at a high
level and then get his first pick or on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Ball, Like, you can't ask for a better situation.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
He's showing out in front of the world that has
been doubting him and been telling them, oh, he should
never touch the football field again, right, and now he's
on the football field and it's moonwalking.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So I also tipped my hat to d shlam Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
He is one of the great left tackles in football.
So I do a thing every DA Tuesday during the
football season called the hurd Hierarchy. I rank the top
ten teams, and I gotta be honest, you've been more
impressive than Kansas City. I have you number two. I
don't know what to do at number three. Every time
I pick a number three team, they lose. I have
Minnesota Green Bayish in that spot, so I have you
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number two.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I know, I know you don't want to talk about
Kansas City. But out of the corner of your eye, Dean,
just like one percent, do you keep your eye a
little on the cheek, just a little?
Speaker 9 (25:33):
You are right, guy, man, you are something else. I
would say. You can never not look. You can never
not look. You can never not peek in and see
what the reigning champions are doing out of respect.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
You can never not do it. I focus on the
week ahead.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Us as a unit, we focus on the day ahead,
which leads us to focusing on the week ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But of course, like I like, we're not robots.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
I'm not ape robot, and I'm pretty sure everyone does.
We all are looking at who won this week?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
How did they play? How did this guy do? How
did he do? Did this guy do well or did
he do bad? How is this DM doing?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
I look mostly at the defensive ends and the the tackles.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
All I watch is DNS.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
So I do watch, I do peak, and I do
check on these teams, especially the ranning champions. It would
not be right if you weren't we're playing a game
where we're all trying to get the ultimate prize, and
if the ultimate prize has been held by one team
every single year.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I'm gonna keep my eye on them. I want to
know what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
I want to know what they're doing, what they're saying,
how they talking in press conferences.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I want to know how they acting. I want to
know what they wearing.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
I want to know what type of energy they're bringing
to their unit which is making them be successful, not
just me, just me?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, well you just you has got your own podcast studio.
By the way, all.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
You have to like the studio.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
All you athletes out there, do you notice how good
sounds and how clear it sounds, and get a little
free sponsor. I know, I know that company what it is.
They're loving this, so you have just for sure you
have crushed it. And you're not only is Buffalo lucky,
You're lucky. That is a great American NFL environment. I
love having you on and you know, I know you're busy, dude,
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and you got stuff to do, but you gave me
time today and I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I'm honored, I'm thankful, and like how I always say
It's an honor to be an offensive lineman and to
do things like this. In this league offensive lineman, we
don't have no awards, we don't have no trophies. We
go to the SPS, we go to the NFL Honors,
we don't get no awards, right, so this is an award.
I take this as that.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
When I'm able to get in front of the world
and talk.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Ball and just to be seen, I take it with
the most respect because it doesn't happen like we're not
talking about some of these other tackles that have a
personality like I'm thankful that I'm in that position to
inspire others, and I appreciate that this is just something
that you know, I watch, I learned, and I say,
if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right.
And I want whoever's watching to following the right footsteps lead.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You to success.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The Pride of Temple great seeing Dion truly all right,
he's just great. I just love him, and he's good.
And they've had a lot of musical chairs on that
old line. But man, I've just looked at highest graded
old linemen. Seven years in a row, bills have allowed
the fewest sacks in the league this year. It's good
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there's another team in that division that thinks they're at
that level.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I can always tell when you do not like him.
I like him.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
He's a nice guy, seems like a friendly gentleman, and
the Jets are gonna bully him and win again this year.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Sorry, Dion, it's happening. But I love how you needle
the Jets. Oh yeah, Bills, Oh they're so good. Amazing,
Josh Allen, hierarchy number two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Settle down, long season, my friend, with the Jets plan
this weekend?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Does it matter?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
They're winning?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Bow nixed. That's an easy dub.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One game winning streak, Listen, is it two? I forget Hey,
don't forget that. Titans win. Will Levis in the Pato,
congratulations on that.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
We'll see you tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Ian Dawkins. Bill's offensive tackle. That their offensive line a
lot of moving parts. He is the rock, he is
the left tackle. He's a three time Pro bowler, all
in the last three years. He'll be joining us around
the corner first. So Jmack with the news.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This is the herdline news.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Excited for Dion Dawkins. Remember last year he came on
the show. We made a bet about Week one and
then the Jets one and he welched kind they remind
him of that. Let's get started with the Steelers, Colin.
They were gonna have Russell Wilson under center this season,
but a calf injury well pave the way for Justin
Fields and now he's three in l We still Mike
Tomlin is fielding questions from the.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Media about who's going to be his quarterback. Here's what
he had to say.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
What more do you need to see from Justin? Why
not name him the starting quarterback? Because there's no need.
You know, I explained to you the variables of the week.
It has not changed. He's gonna walk in this building
with that mindset. Tomorrow when Russ gets to an appropriate
point of health and we have a decision to make,
I'll make it, and I'll announce it, and I'll be
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really transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
By the way, did you ever think you'd see Justin
Fields completing seventy three percent of his throws? There are
a lot of good coaches in this league. I mean,
Brian Flores at Minnesota defensively, forget Kevin o'calmer's second Brian
Flores is literally c J. Stroud's like seeing He's like,
I've never seen this, brought perty is like day through
stuff I've ever seen. Arthur Smith goes into Tennessee makes
(01:54):
Ryan Tannehill. I think, wasn't he the coordinate?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Was he? Look?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I don't know if it was here with Flora. I
forget who it was. I think, but I mean, obviously
Arthur didn't work as a head coach, but clearly he
is defining things for Justin Fields to see because our
knock was always he holds the ball too long and
he turns it over. He's taken out the reckless and
he's clearly designing play justin seeing the field better. I
(02:17):
think there's a bigger you know, we always think there's
a big gap between coaches and quarterbacks in this league.
I think there's a big gap in like coordinators in
this league. What what Brian Flores is doing in Minnesota,
what Arthur Smith is doing. I never thought Justin Fields,
I mean I always wonder. I mean, he was like
a sixty percent completion guy, and it was he didn't
look like he always had good footing.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It's interesting because we're seeing a like a rebirth of
guys who were considered flops or.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Bus right Justin Field's eye as a bus and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now he's looking pretty competent in Pittsburgh, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield.
Maybe some of these guys just weren't ready coming out
of college and the NFL was just too much too soon.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And then Gino Smith add to the list.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Collins, I mean, I think this happens all the time.
Based on the family you grew up with, the culture,
some people mature differently. You know, Tom Brady came in
very mature. Baker has matured, right, didn't come in as mature.
Some guy, you know, some guys never mature. But there
are guys that based on your family and the culture
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you grew up with. And you know, some kids have
great high school coaches and they really I mean, look,
a great example of this is Quinn Yours, who was
a little bad diet, bad mechanics, and he gets under
Sark and like the last seven or eight games I've
seen Quinn Yours like, oh, he's just a different player. So,
I mean there's there's parenting and coaching and your peer group.
(03:45):
Not everybody is ready at twenty two years old to
run a franchise.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And let's remember Jordan Love, who you love a lot,
sat for I believe three seasons, just sat on the bench.
Can you imagine if Justin Field sat for three years
and this was our first look at him.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Oh, this guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, but you know, Green Bay didn't have a lot
of chaos. Pittsburgh doesn't have a lot of chaos. Yeah,
Baltimore doesn't have a lot of chaos. I mean, I've
never been against Lamar Sat, I mean mahomes Sad. I
have no problem.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, maybe we need to you know, not just us,
but collectively the media, like stop just tossing guys in
the trash after like six games.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know what I should do with right and Wrong? Colin?
Right and wrong? Instead of every Monday, maybe I should
do it every like seven years, because I like some
of this stuff that was way wrong looks right. But
you weren't wrong. You were just early.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You were way early on Darnald.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I depend on my executives in the NFL for opinions.
I call and ask if I don't know, they all
like Donald now, they all said mechanically, a lot of
hero ball needs the right fit. Whereas with like but you,
we're finding with Caleb Williams, no matter how talented you are,
fit matters. Mean Andrew looks out of the league. That
fit didn't work eventually.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Let me ask you, does this give hope Trey Lance
Mac Jones, Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, I think Trey's got a fundamental accuracy and mechanical thing.
Zach Wilson. I think small doesn't see the field.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I don't know, hold on time out, Sorry, justin fields
was inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Justin field is three and oh one touchdown here, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He was inaccurate in Chicago. Couldn't complete it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Whether they're not asking a ton of him. So let's
let's let's I think this team's gonna win. I thought
they'd be like a seven eight win team. They'll probably
be a ten to eleven win team based on their start.
But let's let's slow down. It's he didn't look as
good as Jayden Daniels did last night. I mean, Jayden
looked like he saw the fields what so and Jaden
on a Jayden looks better in his third game than
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Justin's ever looked in any game, and so like like
I didn't put them in, you know, my top ten,
like like in the end, give me another week or two,
but I but I do think it's encouraging. What I've
seen with Justin is that with the right coordinator, he
doesn't look as frenetic, he doesn't look as rushed. He
just looks calm. And he's always been a nice guy,
(06:01):
like everybody likes him. Nobody I know has ever bad
mouthed him. Like there's no goofy or arrogant. He's a
good guy, and now I think he's got the good coordinator.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
All right, let's go to UH number one pick, Caleb Williams.
He has not been the best quarterback in a draft class.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Through three games.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
You could argue he's been behind Bow Knicks and Jamie Daniels.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
However, Caleb did have three hundred plus yards, a couple
of touchdowns, did have two interceptions, and was sacked four times.
One anonymous NFL executive believes caleb struggles and Chicago's problems
are due to having the worst offensive line, offensive coordinator,
and head coach in the NFC North. That's a lot
to overcome. I don't think you could argue the coach
(06:43):
Dan Campbell's been better. Right, we know Lafleur is very
good and Kevin O'Connell's great.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, I think that he's also the only defensive coach
in an offensive division. I think the thing about Caleb.
Even if they get Caleb right, would this be the
right coach for innovation? Creativity? Probably not so. Also, the
cheapest ownership groups. I mean we said this before he
got there. Is he good enough to overcome Chicago's nonsense?
(07:08):
Because it's the same owners I can't believe how badly
the offensive line is regressed. And that that to me
is I've told you this many times with a Bosa.
Sean McVay patch worked his offensive line this past week
to win a game, and he reads rebuilt his own line.
Pittsburgh's now in about the seventh year, are trying to
(07:29):
get it right with Tomlin. Pete Carroll's offensive lines were
always hit and miss. There is something to be said
about offensive line, something about the offensive coaches. Go look
at the offensive line rankings the last couple of years
in the league and the bottom the bottom is a
lot of defensive coaches, a top, a lot of offensive coaches.
I cannot believe how bad the offensive line's got in
Chicago overnight.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Offseason, Hey let's go get DeAndre Swift, Keenan Allen Romadunze.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Did they address the offensive line?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, I thought last year it was okay. I thought
that got the right tackles.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It's just bad.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So, by the way, is this a good coaching job?
If he refuses fired, would Belichick be like, hey, I'm interested.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know people you know, Yeah, that's a very good question.
So I I always hear this before, like, hey, you
want the most challenging thing, and that part of Brady's
greatness was that he always had a home playoff game
or a bye because Miami and the Jets were so
poorly run. It wasn't until Josh Allen entered the division
that Brady's like, I mean, I win this thing every year.
(08:31):
There is an advantage. I look around and I'm like,
I gotta face Matt Lafleur every year twice in that
organization they draft as well as it. I gotta face now,
Kevin O'Connell whether it's done. And by the way, Detroit's
front office, whether you like Campbell or not, the Lions
executive suite is aces. They are great. It ain't the
(08:51):
best job.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
O'Connell and Lafleur probably two of the best seven or
eight coaches in the league right now.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and they've got I mean, Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur.
You gotta face that for two years.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I just don't know about a Belichick Caleb Williams marriage.
I don't know how that would work, because you know,
Belichick rides his players hard. I don't know how Caleb's
gonna react.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It probably doesn't. Isn't a great no, No, I mean.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I I think Belichick's going to stay in the northeast.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Ohio state coach wins the national championship and then ye day.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Now let's let's go get a formidable coach that's one
in the NFL. Okay, no more coordinators, not college guy,
Let's go get a.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Guy all right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Final story is a Seattle Seahawks three and oh for
the first time since twenty twenty. They made the playoffs
each of the last five times they've started three and oh.
New head coach Mike McDonald is the first head coach in.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Team history to open with three straight wins. He knows
they can be even better.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
We've done enough to win each game that we've played.
There's a lot of great stuff on tape, but we're
also at the beginning stages of this team and who
we're going to become, and the guys know that. It's
very clear when you when you watch the tape where
we need to improve, and there's a great opportunity for
us to improve. It's so early in the season. We're
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in a great position. Obviously, it's way better than the
opposite and so we're excited about that. But there's a
sense of urgency too on where this football team needs
to go.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm not saying they're Kansas City. They're not because Mahalmes Gino.
But when you watch Seattle and the speed on both
sides of the ball, do they run they are, That's
that's one of the faster teams in the league. They're corners,
they're receiving group do they They just move the lead
the NFL right now in NFL grades And they're fast
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and they're young, so they don't get you know, younger
players don't get hurt as often, and when they get hurt,
they're back sooner. That's why the Niners are falling apart.
It's an old team.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So the crappy news for the Lions. By the way,
Lion Seahawks is Monday Night football.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Great game.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Lions are favored by four, three and zero. Seattle is
a four point dog on the road. The Lions center
was just ruled out rag now out big loss. But
Seattle's got injuries on the defensive front. That's gonna be
a great This might be the best.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Game of the week on Monday den football.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, it's Monday Night. It's a big spot for a
young Seattle team. Monday Night matters. It feels like another
point in a point and a half. I mean, if
Buffalo and Jacksonville played at one on Sunday, would it
have been forty seven to ten. It felt like Jacksonville
just wasn't ready for the moment.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
And primetime in Buffalo's all juiced up.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
You don't think the Detroit fans are going to be
going nuts, like get out of work early.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
This is one I think this spot is also Detroit
finally last week figured it out. They ran the football
a lot. I think Gibbs and Montgomery told led thirty
five carries like that, that's how that's what they they
they've got now. They had a great hook and lateral.
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But if my take on Detroit is what they did Sunday,
that's how they should play.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, it's a big step up in last for Seattle
to face Jared Goff, Ben Johnson this offense.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, I still think there's some I don't know
what what quite it is.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
There's something not quite right with Detroit. So in a
standalone game or Monday night game, I'll be able to.
But it's when you got nine games on your watch
them on a TV, you're kind of like, Okay, they're
running the football, but.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They just don't seem like last year's Detroit, which.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Is like, yeah, just well basic. Last year they were
the hunter. Now that the hunted, and that is a
thing some organizations are, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
And people are picking up on Ben Johnson's tendencies, like
where he wants to go with the football.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I'm around Saint Brown.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
We know Laporta got dinged up and just a lot
of weirdness in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
J Mack with the news, Well, that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
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Speaker 1 (13:01):
There is a like I don't mind celebrations after touchdowns,
although I think you're paid to score touchdowns, so I
you know, everybody's paid to do a job. I don't
think you have to spend a lot of time celebrating
when you do your job. But I also think sports
is very emotional and you've worked very hard and when
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you score, you should you know, it's okay to high
five and jump up and pump your fist a little bit.
But Bill Belichick was talking about Patrick Mahomes and and
told Pat McAfee he said, one of the things that
really jumped out to me last night was they interviewed
Mahomes and they're three and zero and could easily sit
there and say they're on course. Here we go again,
big win in Atlanta. But here's Mahomes talking about how
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bad they're playing, and here is Mahomes on the early struggles.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I feel like I haven't played very well, and that's
not a stats thing. I just feel like I'm missing
opportunities whenever they're out there and not throwing the ball
in the exact spot I want it to be at.
So it's about me getting back to my fundamentals, putting
our guys in the right position, and then we got
to execute at a higher level offensively. If teams are
gonna make us drive the field, we have to prove
that we're able to do that. And I'm sure we'll
get a lot of the same this next week with
the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
One of the things I like about Mahomes, and I'm
gonna sound like an old fart, but you know, Baker
Mayfield emotionally and maturity wasn't quite ready to be the guy,
and Jamis Winston never was, and Johnny Manziel wasn't and
Cam kind of was physically or he was physically there.
There is something to be said coming into this league
like mature. And maybe it's because his dad was a
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major league baseball player, but you know, Baker Mayfield wasn't
quite ready emotionally, Andrew Luck was. Now Baker had better
teammates and a better offensive line in a better run game.
But there there is you know. I mean, I didn't
know Tom Brady had a personality until he went the
Tampa so I and I know if somebody once told
(14:55):
me this, do you care about the right stuff? And
when the mahomes, he cares about the work, he cares
about the wins. He's got a lot of movement around him.
You know, his brother, his wife has you know, got
a social media presence and he's a star and it's
just Travis Kelcey and it's a big loud bunch of
stuff around him. And he just cares about the right stuff.
(15:18):
And I think there's some real value in it. I
don't think he gets credit for this, but it would
be so easy. I mean, guys that didn't achieve anything
in the NFL. I mean they're on nineteen commercials. I
see some of these commercials that are playing, and I'm like,
will Levice get off the commercials? Dude, you're not good
enough to have him, you know. And I used to
(15:38):
say this about Baker. You're a good actor. Spend more
time on the playbook, less time to I don't care
if it's off season on season there. Tom Brady wouldn't
do commercials until like eight nine years in, and he
included his offensive linemen there. Now you say, well, what Mahome.
I didn't see any rookie year Mahomes commercials. Now He's
all over him the minute he won the MVP and
they started winning super Bowls. But I just feel like
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with Mahomes, he cares about the right stuff and he's
self critical. And I don't think it's as easy as
you think. Somebody said that. Trent Dilford told me this
year's ago. He goes, when you lose in the NFL,
everybody acts the same. They're pissed and they work hard.
He goes, it's the difference in the NFL is what
happens when you win, and you win a lot. That's
where guys go sideways. When you lose, you're humbled, you
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get barked at, you work hard, you want to redeem yourself.
Losing's actually easy because you know you have to work hard.
But when you win and you get commercial offers and
you get all the upside stuff, that's when it's harder.
How do you handle winning? And I think, you know,
I think Mahomes handles it the right way, and I
think it's much more difficult than anybody would want to acknowledge.
(16:45):
There's a lot of movement around Kansas City. You got
Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey family, those wife's got a presence,
like there's a lot of stuff. Harrison Buckner, there's a
comment here that didn't bother me. But you know, the
media firestorm around and you're winning trophies every year. Every
game is prime time, almost every game is standalone. Mahomes is,
(17:06):
he's a unicorn. Most people his age couldn't handle this stuff.
He's sharp and Belichick's right on the money.
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Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well. He's the highest graded offensive lineman for the Buffalo
Bills the last seven years. He's on his way to
a Hall of Fame level. Seven years in the NFL,
three Pro Bowls, he doesn't miss games, and now he's
got his own podcast studio. So this guy is a player.
Dion Dawkins, Bill's offensive tackle, joined us. Every year I
look at this guy, Look at this guy, look at
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that Holy well, you got like you you're like a mogul.
What how you doing? So I gotta ask you, you
know what's happened with Buffalo? And I've said this before.
You guys break my heart every year, but this year
feels different. And the reason it feels different, Dion, I
think you have a better run game I think he
had last year. At another tight end, I feel like
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the offense is got more chess pieces me watching. Does
it feel like that to you?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Yes, I would say that our team has more chess pieces.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That's a beautiful way to put it.
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Our team has a whole board of pieces that can
be moved in place to get the job done. I
feel like in the previous years, like everybody knew exactly
where the football was going, which is cool, Like we
had digs and we had those guys gave we knew
exactly where the ball and was going. Now we have
a whole rolodex of guys that could do it. We
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could leave the ball in Cook's hand, we could put
it in Dalton ten, we could put it in Knox's hand.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
We could put it in thirteen.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
We could put it in put it on zero like,
we could put it on ten, we could put it
on fifteen like. We could put it on so many
different guys at any point in the game. And I
think that that's what is keeping the game more exciting
and more fun, because don't nobody know where that ball
is going, Like if you have a long down, like
everybody knew the ball was going to step on And
now since we had the change up change, you know,
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it could go to so many and different pieces.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
But I think that you just put it best. It
is kind of like a like a bigger chess board.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know. It's interesting when you get into a game
like last night, and for you, I mean, you don't
miss games. You dominate people, But not every That's not
the way it works for most players. Early in that
game last night, when you guys huddle and you're just
doing whatever you want to do, could you sense by
the second drive Dion could you sense like they don't
(19:36):
want to smoke, like this is just gonna be our night?
Did you know it before it kind of exploded?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Man, I wish that I could say yes. I really
do wish that I could say yes. I do think
that you know what, Yes, I would say yes. I
think after the first drive and everything worked to our
accord because you're like, we like we practice, we have
a game plan, so h every game we just have
(20:01):
to execute our game plan. And when it when we
executed our game plan as fluently as and we did,
it's it's a great feeling.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Like I know, our goal, like when we touched the
football is we want to score. Every time we touched
the ball.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Every time the offense gets on the football field, we
want to score. So the first two possessions, when we
got on the field and we scored, it was like,
all right, this is this is going in the right
direction of the coaches put a good game plan in
and we're going to execute this at a high level
and it's working. But up front, like as an offensive line,
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like we had a tough, a tough battle, like like
I had to play against against Josh and it was a.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
It was a battle every rep.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
And I know Spencer and was battling Connor, Cybo and
Dave like every single rep. Like we were battling up front,
which made it a good thing for our offense. But
since we did our job, it just made it a
little bit easier for for seventeen.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You know, as I was watching the game last night,
and maybe I'll sound like a fanboy here, but there's
two places in the NFL that I always think that
if you were drafted Green Bay in Buffalo, and I'm
watching that game last night, like everybody's got a jersey on,
and do you ever just think, Damn, I got lucky,
(21:25):
I got Buffalo, I got Josh Allen, I got a
capable I mean, there's a lot of guys coming this league, meon,
and they don't get the coach, they get a bad quarterback,
you get traded four times. I'm watching Buffalo last night,
I'm like, man, this thing's gonna work for like eight
more years. You may never have to go and you
play the right position. You ever think that or that
stuff stuff guys like me talk about.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Now, that is the honest truth.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I'm a true believer and God, and you know, everything
happens for a reason, Like I grew up shoveling snow.
Then I get drafted to a place where I could
shovel snow every day in my life, you know, Buffalo
is just that.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
And then I get UH. The first year, I get
blessed with with with with.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
The presence of being around Tyrod, Taylor and Peterman. And
then the following year, here comes Josh Allen and when
I'm there and then it's just like, all right, every
piece of this is coming together the right way. Like
I had OG's that were around me early, which made
me feel like I was supposed to be there to
implement what was going to be for the future. I
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had Richie Incognito, Eric Wood, I had, I had OG's
Lashawn McCoy, like I had these these heavy hitter players
that you know, implemented what they implemented in me early.
And then I got to throw it over to Josh
and these guys, which now I have a team of
leaders that is helping this this thing grow. But I
do think that things happen for a reason. I am
(22:47):
thankful that I am here, and you are correct with
being here. It is extremely unique. Bill's Mafia is UH
is one of those places where you could be alignment
and feel like a quarterback, can be a long snapper
and feel like a quarterback as well. And I'm pretty
sure that Green Bay is the same way. And I'm
(23:08):
thankful for an organization and a community like this that
makes us feel like that, because who doesn't want to
be someplace.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
That they're not wanted? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Like?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
Who wants to be there? But this place makes you
feel extremely wanted. So I tip my hat to Buffalo
every day. And that's why I give so much passion
and I speak with so much passion. I talk about
him because this place is one of a kind and
you know, yeah, yeah, and he did.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
But everything is better when you're winning.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But I want to talk to about DeMar Hamlin's first
interception last night, that agile layer. There's there's a layer
with this team, and you talked about God earlier. There
are things work in mysterious ways, and we watch what happened,
how emotional it was. Now he gets an interception. What
was kind of the reaction. I mean, that's a pretty
(23:58):
special moment in a career. What was that LIKEE.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Yeah, you know when it happened, I didn't even realize
it was his first pick. I really didn't like. I like,
I've seen dam and make plays, but the reaction was exciting.
The stadium went crazy, yeah, crazy, three three went crazy,
and everybody's excitement made everybody excited. So we were all
(24:22):
excited just to be excited for Dam which I called
him Slam.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Like we we We.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
Were just excited to see this kid that has gone
through one of the most tragic things in life and
then come back and then be playing at a high
level and then get his first pick or on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Ball, Like, you can't ask for a better situation.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
He's showing out in front of the world that has
been doubting him and been telling them, oh, he should
never touch the football field again, right, and now he's
on the football field and it's moonwalking.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
So I also tipped my hat to d shlam Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
He is one of the great left tackles in football.
So I do a thing every DA Tuesday during the
football season called the hurd Hierarchy. I rank the top
ten teams, and I gotta be honest, you've been more
impressive than Kansas City. I have you number two. I
don't know what to do at number three. Every time
I pick a number three team, they lose. I have
Minnesota Green Bayish in that spot, so I have you
(25:17):
number two.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I know, I know you don't want to talk about
Kansas City. But out of the corner of your eye, Dean,
just like one percent, do you keep your eye a
little on the cheek, just a little?
Speaker 9 (25:33):
You are right, guy, man, you are something else. I
would say. You can never not look. You can never
not look. You can never not peek in and see
what the reigning champions are doing out of respect.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
You can never not do it. I focus on the
week ahead.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Us as a unit, we focus on the day ahead,
which leads us to focusing on the week ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But of course, like I like, we're not robots.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
I'm not ape robot, and I'm pretty sure everyone does.
We all are looking at who won this week?
Speaker 6 (26:03):
How did they play? How did this guy do? How
did he do? Did this guy do well or did
he do bad? How is this DM doing?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
I look mostly at the defensive ends and the the tackles.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
All I watch is DNS.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
So I do watch, I do peak, and I do
check on these teams, especially the ranning champions. It would
not be right if you weren't we're playing a game
where we're all trying to get the ultimate prize, and
if the ultimate prize has been held by one team
every single year.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I'm gonna keep my eye on them. I want to
know what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
I want to know what they're doing, what they're saying,
how they talking in press conferences.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
I want to know how they acting. I want to
know what they wearing.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
I want to know what type of energy they're bringing
to their unit which is making them be successful, not
just me, just me?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, well you just you has got your own podcast studio.
By the way, all.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
You have to like the studio.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
All you athletes out there, do you notice how good
sounds and how clear it sounds, and get a little
free sponsor. I know, I know that company what it is.
They're loving this, so you have just for sure you
have crushed it. And you're not only is Buffalo lucky,
You're lucky. That is a great American NFL environment. I
love having you on and you know, I know you're busy, dude,
(27:17):
and you got stuff to do, but you gave me
time today and I appreciate that.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I'm honored, I'm thankful, and like how I always say
It's an honor to be an offensive lineman and to
do things like this. In this league offensive lineman, we
don't have no awards, we don't have no trophies. We
go to the SPS, we go to the NFL Honors,
we don't get no awards, right, so this is an award.
I take this as that.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
When I'm able to get in front of the world
and talk.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Ball and just to be seen, I take it with
the most respect because it doesn't happen like we're not
talking about some of these other tackles that have a
personality like I'm thankful that I'm in that position to
inspire others, and I appreciate that this is just something
that you know, I watch, I learned, and I say,
if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it right.
And I want whoever's watching to following the right footsteps lead.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
You to success.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The Pride of Temple great seeing Dion truly all right,
he's just great. I just love him, and he's good.
And they've had a lot of musical chairs on that
old line. But man, I've just looked at highest graded
old linemen. Seven years in a row, bills have allowed
the fewest sacks in the league this year. It's good
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there's another team in that division that thinks they're at
that level.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I can always tell when you do not like him.
I like him.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
He's a nice guy, seems like a friendly gentleman, and
the Jets are gonna bully him and win again this year.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Sorry, Dion, it's happening. But I love how you needle
the Jets. Oh yeah, Bills, Oh they're so good. Amazing,
Josh Allen, hierarchy number two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Settle down, long season, my friend, with the Jets plan
this weekend?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Does it matter?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
They're winning?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Bow nixed. That's an easy dub.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
One game winning streak, Listen, is it two? I forget Hey,
don't forget that. Titans win. Will Levis in the Pato,
congratulations on that.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
We'll see you tomorrow.
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