3 & Out - Thursday Night Football Preview, What's going on in San Fran, Outhouse or Penthouse

John previews the Thursday Night Football game by diving into how important it is for the Cowboys to have a good game against a Giants team that despite coming off of a win, is not a good team. Next, John dives into the early struggles with the 49ers and what they need to do to turn the corner and be the team that most people expect them to be. Lastly, John give you his latest "Outhouse or Penthouse" after Week 3.

Finally, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment.

7:39 - TNF Preview

13:33 - What's going with the 49ers

18:54 - Outhouse vs. Penthouse

30:47 - Other NFL News

45:03 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (02:00):
What is going on? My people? How are we doing?
On this beautiful Thursday? Cowboys headed to New York to
take on the g Men Giants, a big underdog as
of recording this six points. Even though Daniel Jones last
couple weeks four touchdowns, no interceptions, Cowboys couldn't stop me
and you from gaining five yards. But big spot, we

(02:21):
will dive into the game where I'm leaning. I mean, obviously,
given the hype of the franchise, I mean the pressures
on the Cowboys to win this game. If they lose,
you think there's a lot of cowboy talk normally wait
for Friday morning. So we'll dive into that game. Some
thoughts on Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine ers. We
skipped this last week, but I want to try to
be consistent with this. My outhouse and my penhouse, so

(02:45):
my favorite team, it's basically how I'm going to do
my best teams in the league and obviously the worst
teams in the league. And it'll vary by how many teams,
you know, get into the penhouse and get thrown in
the outhouse. And one of the biggest stories you could
argue the biggest story of the day definitely college football,
is UNLV's quarterback quitting. There's some discrepancies of the story.

(03:09):
He claimed he wasn't paid, they pay, They claim he
wanted more money after they had won some games and
he just sent him out and he quit and he
said he's gonna red shirt, and so I want to
dive into that story. Which is not a bad moment
for my friend State Bulldogs who play UNLV, which is
a massive game. So my guy Tim Skipper now no excuses,

(03:32):
got to go in there and win. But we will
dive into the Matt Sluka quitting over some nil money.
Interested to watch how this one plays out. Like as
of recording this, I only have, you know, one side
saying one thing, the other side saying but I just
have an overall thought and just yeah, we'll dive into

(03:54):
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(04:16):
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(04:37):
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probably the biggest game they ever played, the National Championship,
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they had some injuries in that game. But still, if

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(05:41):
on Thursday Night games. The longer we go into the
season is if you give me a home team and
you're giving them a lot of points, like I'm just
gonna bet on them. And sometimes you know, late in
the season you get some of these like multiple time
zone differences short week in November. It's like that is
a huge disadvantage for the road team. Now, my initial

(06:04):
reaction looked today, pulled up the DraftKings app. We had
the Giants plus six at home. Obviously, divisional games just
in general, can be weird and tightly contested, but you're
giving me six points at home. The Giants have definitely
played better the last two weeks. I mean last week
in Cleveland, Daniel Jones was really good and the league
neighbors is establishing himself as a star, and the Cowboys

(06:27):
have some issues. Now I also like to look at, well,
who what was the travel like the week before Cowboys
were at home, so they haven't had to get on
a plane until today when they're flying to New York,
and the Giants were on the road, so they don't
have the comforts of they haven't had to leave and
they're just sitting there at home. They didn't have to
travel to Cleveland. I've never made that flight New York

(06:48):
to Cleveland, but I don't think it's twenty minutes, so
they had to travel. Now they're coming off a big win,
they're feeling good. My initial reaction, like I said, Giants
plus six if that thing goes I looked early in
the week, is like four and a half. These people
know something I don't know. Now. The Cowboys are a
very public team. This is must win situation for them,

(07:09):
in the sense of we went over their schedule yesterday.
It's absolutely brutal coming up they get after this week,
the Steelers, the Lions, at the Niners, at the Falcons Philly, Houston.
I mean they are playing really good teams. If they
fall to one in three with a coach that does
not have a contract for next season, let's face it,

(07:30):
this team gets talked about no matter what, this thing
could get weird, and this thing could get weird fast. Now.
The one thing with the Cowboys, as we saw last
week and two weeks ago with the Saints as well,
is you can run the ball down their throat. Now,
Alvin Kamara through the first three weeks of the season
looks like a rejuvenated guy in his prime. Looks fantastic. Obviously,
when you play Lamar and Derrick Henry. I mean, both

(07:53):
those two guys are gonna be Hall of Famers, So
that's a tough matchup. The Giants aren't exactly rolling out
Tiki Barberaquon Barkley here. Singletary, in my opinion, is like
run the mill starting running back in the NFL A
couple weeks ago. I think you ran for ninety five
yards against Washington, But what does that really mean? The
Cincinnati Bengals were doing whatever they wanted whenever they wanted

(08:15):
in terms of the running game against Washington, not a
very good defense. Last week against Cleveland, better defense, didn't
crack seventy yards on the season. He's averaging like four
point seven a season. So can the Giants really just
destroy the Cowboys on the ground like what happened the
last two weeks? Probably not. I mean, are they gonna

(08:35):
run for two hundred yards? I don't think so. Can
they run for one hundred though, and slow down the game?
I do believe that because I think the hard part.
You know, when you struggle to cover people, your defensive
coordinator can make extreme tweaks with your coverages. Right if
you're a man team and your corners are struggling, you

(08:57):
can switch the zone, you can cheat safeties, you can
add dbs and take linebackers off the field. Like, there
are things you can do in run defense. If your
defensive tackles can't hold up the line of scrimmage, if
your edge guys aren't great point of attack players in
terms of the run game, and your linebacker play is

(09:18):
pretty iffy, like, you're gonna struggle. I don't care if
Dick Lebou or Jim Johnson is coaching the defense. It's
hard to stop the run now. Luckily for the Cowboys,
they're not playing some potent rushing team. So the Cowboys,
I think it is fair to say they should win
this game. But if they are to lose and you're
one to three, well the Giant should be two and two.

(09:41):
Eagles have a bunch of injuries, but they've already won
two games and Washington won as well, So it's like
you would be in last place heading into October, which
is not the end of the world. But we just
rattled off the schedule. Are the Cowboys, you know, beating
all those teams that I just listed. Probably not. It's
why it's very difficult to put yourself behind the eight ball.

(10:04):
When you have a first play schedule, it's hard and
it's gonna be very, very interesting on the road. I
think the key of Dallas gonna win this game. They
gotta start fast because the longer this thing is just ugly.
Ten ten and a half. And the Giants got life,
like Malik Neighbors has proven. Man if Malik Neighbors was
a running back like the talent that we've seen, instead

(10:25):
of a wide receiver, he was a running back. I
picked the Giants to win this game. Hell, I might
even if I'm day ball. Put him in some situations
in the backfield, hell running between the tackles. Can you
stop this? Now? It's pretty risky. You don't want to
get him injured. But this is a pretty good Thursday
night game. I'm not gonna lie. Pretty intriguing storylines that

(10:45):
three weeks ago I might not have been as excited for.
But let's face, a lot of people are throwing this
out there statistically, like what the hell's the difference of
Daniel Jones and Trevor Lawrence And everyone acts like Daniel
Jones the worst quarterback we've ever seen, and Trevor Lawrence
is you know two hundred million dollar player. Now the
difference the last couple of weeks, like Dan Jones doesn't
turned the ball over if Daniel Jones is not throwing

(11:08):
pick sixes and throwing a couple of touchdowns a game,
and they just keep the game semi low scoring. I mean,
the Giants want no part of games that you have
to score twenty eight to thirty points. If they can
keep that bad boy in the teams, if they can
keep that bad boy in the low twenties, like they're
gonna have a chance. And if that's the score of
the game, like I love the Giants plus six. Uh,

(11:30):
you know the forty nine ers, what a weird Obviously,
I was thinking about it today. I went for a swim.
I've been trying to swim a couple days a week,
good little workout. Get really hungry after, feel like you
burn a lot of calories. And you know a lot
of times when you work out and you listen to
a podcast or music, even if you're thinking you got
stuff in your ear. The one great part about swimming,

(11:50):
just you and your thoughts, and I'll just crossed my mind. Like,
let's just say, Christian McCaffrey never plays another snap, which
I don't think is going to be the case. But
at the rate this is going, it's pretty weird. Not
very often players in the NFL had to Germany in
the middle of a season. But if they would have

(12:12):
won that Super Bowl against Kansas City this year, wouldn't
be that big a deal. Okay, start fast, some injuries, whatever,
it's all gravy. But you lose that Super Bowl, announced like,
can they get back? This is their window. Now's the time.
They got eight guys making over fifteen million dollars and
they started looking around, like, well, let's count the eight guys.
Hard Grain is one of those guys out for the season.

(12:33):
Christian McCaffrey one of those guys nowhere to be found.
Deebo Samuel's one of those guys already injured, gonna miss
another game. George Kittle was limited in practice today. I
think his status for this week, it's definitely up in
the air. Brandon Ayut they gave thirty million dollars a year,
seventy five million dollars guaranteed. My entire argument the entire

(12:53):
time is like, is this player Obviously he's valuable to
their team and has been valuable the last couple of year.
But he's he worth that number to them, and through
three weeks he's dropping balls. He's been bad. I mean,
he just hasn't been good. Obviously, he's not gonna play
that bad all season long. But I don't know if
they're ever gonna get the value given how much they

(13:15):
pay him in the way they want to play. But
at the end of the day, this operation is really
led by two people. Now one the star of this show.
Like when you think the Bills, you think Josh Allen. Right,
when you think the Indianapolis Colt, you've got Peyton Manning.
When you got the Green Bay Packers, you got Aaron Rodgers,
Hell New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers. When you think the

(13:37):
forty nine Ers, you think Kyle Shanning. This is why
he makes fifteen sixteen million dollars a year. They got
a bunch of injuries. Weird shit's going on, Like you
got to rattle off a couple wins now and just
kind of right the ship. And he's done it before
before last year. The previous two years they started really slow.
Now they're playing the Patriots. They're a ten point favorite

(13:57):
at home. Obviously, if you win that game, you'll get
any credit, but like, you need to win the next
couple games. You get the Patriots at home, huge favorite.
Then you get the Cardinals at home. You're gonna probably
be a six or seven point favorite. You gotta win
those games. And the conversation around Perty like last week
had to be one of Perty's best games. He looked

(14:19):
like a borderline top five quarterback in the NFL. He
was awesome. I mean, darts inside, darts outside, scrambling around,
throws on the move. Just I get the opponent was
I wouldn't exactly call the eighty five Bears, but he
was brilliant. He was outstanding. Part of the reason that's

(14:39):
such a kick in the you know what, is because
you lose a game when you have the lead and
your quarterback is dominating. That's why the defense and the
special team's taken so much shit. But I'm sorry, Like,
this is the reason that we talk so highly about
this guy. He makes all this money. He's widely considered,
even if we're debating where he land, you know, on

(15:01):
the list of top coaches. Everyone has him somewhere between
two and five. And if you got one of those
guys and you have a good quarterback, like you rattle
off some wins against teams you're better than even when
you have a bunch of injuries. Now, do you have
to win the Super Bowl? Are you gonna be compromised
in a couple months? Yeah? Probably the way this is looking,
I mean, the McCaffrey thing I thought was kind of overblown,

(15:27):
and then the moment they put him on injured reserve,
and it's been feeling worse. And now he's in Germany,
like I've kind of come to grips with. I don't
if anything he does this season is gravy. I don't
really expect to see him now. I'm though medical doctor.
My take is, hey, if that Achille is gonna rip,
you might as well play and rip it as soon
as possible, because it doesn't feel like something that's avoidable.

(15:49):
But listen, that's on him. Maybe he's got some special
potion over there that'll strengthen the bad boy. But even okay,
so now you can't win the Super Bowl, but like
you still should make the playoff. You still should figure
it out, Like you still should have the culture and
the talent even separate from some of these guys, and
some of them are gonna come back to rattle off

(16:10):
a bunch of wins to win double digit games' why
Kyle Shanahan makes all this money, so there is just
tangible pressure to me these next two weeks. If the
forty nine Ers don't win the next two games, then
I think we can officially say we got a major
problem and this team is screwed. But I do expect,
because I've seen it before. Kyle Shanahan, brock Purty demand
the Ship win the next two games, and then they

(16:32):
got Thursday Night on the road at Seattle, which is
just a shaping up as long as the Niners take
care of business to be a fantastic Thursday night game
in a difficult spot for the Niners, short week on
the road, loud place. But you obviously got to win
this week against the Patriots, and then you need to
win next week against the Arizona Cardinals. He let's do

(16:53):
a little outhouse penthouse. I did it two weeks ago.
I think I forgot after Week two, and this is
gonna change on a weekly basis now. I think it's
fair to say they're gonna be a consistent theme. The
Chiefs are in the outhouse all season long. Like they
bought a place that they leased it out for a year,
like they're not getting booted, that they've earned that right.

(17:16):
And they're three and zero. The games could have gone
either way. But that's what great teams do, and I
think a lot of people are jumping on this bandwagon.
People forget because you just look, oh, six Super Bowls,
nine to ten AFC championship games. Their record spoke for itself.
They were in the playoffs every single year basically with
the one or two seed. The Patriots played in a

(17:39):
lot of weird games over the years. They just won
a lot of them. That's part of being a great
operation and a great team. So to me, the Chiefs
are just in the penhouse all season long. They could
lose a game, they could lose a couple games in
a row unless they miss the playoffs. Who is betting
against this team? The answer is nobody, the other team

(18:00):
that has just vaulted their way in. I mean, the
Bills look incredible, they really do. And it kind of
went viral. Did Josh take a shot at Diggs? Whether
he did or did not, what he said is true.
We have a bunch of guys and no one cares
about their stats and I can throw it to anyone

(18:20):
on any given play, any given game, and it's not
that big a deal. And listen, here's the thing about Digs,
and this is where I will defend him because I
think a lot of people consider him somewhat of a diva.
He has been a winning diva. He gets to Minnesota,
they were winners, he gets traded to the Bills. There winners.
He's now in the Texans. Guess what They're gonna be
a playoff team. So yeah, is the high maintenance relative

(18:44):
to some players, probably, But is the guy a winning player?
That's not debatable. But now, like they don't have quote
unquote a true number one, and they got a lot
of guys that look very ready to contribute, and obviously
Cooks adds a huge element to their offense as a
running back, and Joe Brady is kind of feeling like

(19:04):
the lsu version again, and their offense looks sweet. At
the end of the day, They're head coach is a
defensive guy. So yeah, I would say top to bottom,
their roster doesn't look like the two thousand Ravens on defense.
But I have a pretty good trust in their operation
that they're going to figure it out and be solid,
and if you're solid on defense with that good of
an offense, you can win the Super Bowl. I do

(19:27):
think Minnesota won back to back wins. Now, granted they're
at home against the forty nine ers in the Texans
in which the fashion they did it is like, as
of right now, your penthouse is right next to the
Chiefs and the Bills. That is extremely impressive. If they
go on the road and beat the Packers this week,
whether Malik Willis plays or Jordan love Place, regardless who plays,

(19:51):
what an incredible start for O'Connell, for Darnald, for Flores.
I think we'd have to start taking this team seriously
as like a number one one overall seed contender because
we know how good they're gonna be at home, and
their coaching staff is excellent. We talked about it yesterday
with the Bears, like no one trust their coaching staff.
This is not these other sports where you can overcome

(20:13):
that with talent. In football, your coaches are so important
because so many games are gonna be within five to
six points in the fourth quarter. Can I out coach?
You can I outscheme, you can I call the right plays?
Can I put my best players in the best positions
to have success. And I think it's pretty evident right

(20:33):
now that the Vikings can listen. I can't. You're three
and zero, and if I'm gonna put the Chiefs in there, now,
they've done a lot more this style and have it
worked than the Steelers. If the Steelers are playing the
Bills or the Chiefs in a playoff game, I would
not pick them, But like they're clearly comfortable playing in

(20:55):
these really weird, ugly games. They have no problem doing it,
and they can play their way to twelve thirteen wins
as long as their defensive players stay healthy. And I
already saw high Smith as is injured. So if they
can keep the core of their defense on the field
like they got a chance to win twelve plus games.
I'll be the first to admit that as someone that

(21:16):
bet against them this season. And as long as fields
doesn't turn the ball over, makes a couple occasional explosive
plays down the field of pickings with his legs, they're
gonna be a problem. Now, do you trust that style
and that specific player in a playoff game, depending on
who they're playing, you would bet against them more than

(21:38):
likely but as of through three weeks, props to them.
That's why Tomlin is a badass. People think I'm a
Tomlin hater. I just thought last year was like his
Andy Reid Chiefstein, like time for a divorce. And I'll
give them credit. They punted on all their quarterbacks and
they got fields in there. And whether Russell Wilson, it's hard.

(21:59):
I saw a headline today. It's like, if you're a
Russell Wilson, you don't want to look like you've just
gotten wally pipped and you're ready to go and they're
gonna keep rolling the field. So it's like, is he
is he hurt to the point where he couldn't play?
Is he like back? Is he their backup going into games?
It's just a situation that I could see them manipulating
a little bit through uh, you know, just through the

(22:22):
injury report and the Steelers you don't do whatever. It
doesn't matter to you as long as you've got field
ripping and rarn. But if it feels word to get injured,
who goes into the game. Is Russell ready? Is he not?
I don't know the answer to that. But so that's
that's my squad right there, because the Chiefs actually have
a lower point differential than the Steelers. I mean, the

(22:43):
Vikings and the Bills are destroying people. The Bills is
their point differential through three games is sixty four points.
That's pretty impressive. Obviously it helps when you beat a
team forty seven to ten, but the Vikings fifty five.
The outhouse is pretty ugly. I mean, this is the Slumps.

(23:04):
This is a house you couldn't give away. Homeless people
might turn down a key to this pad. First, the Titans,
I actually don't think they're terrible, but when you roll
out Will Levis, which the GM ran Carthin clearly liked.
He drafted him, he has supported him. I think Brian Callahan,

(23:28):
you say what you got to say to get a job,
but when you have eight turnovers through three games, five interceptions,
I can't function with you. That was the thing with
Andy Dalton de Bryce Young. It's like, listen, all these
former players and people on TV. You're like, this is bs.
You gotta give them time, you gotta let them. Well,

(23:49):
it's like, guys, if we can't run basic plays, basic
pass plays and have them completed, I'm talking about balls
in the flat, a basic outrun out it's one thing
that we're talking go routes and double passes and double
moves and deep posts. Okay that those are lower percentage throws.

(24:09):
Caleb's missing some of those. But like when you can't
hit the layups, we can't function. And that's the thing
with will Levis. Like he hits some sexy plays and
you can watch him on a given drive, like God,
Will Levis is not terrible, and then he'll just turn
the ball over at a round. I mean he's averaging
right now more than two turnovers a game. You can't

(24:31):
you cannot function like that. I don't care how well
your defense is played, and it hasn't been that bad,
but Will Levis has I think you could argue because
Bryce Young was benched, is currently the worst starting quarterback
in the NFL. I think the team that is just
pretty cemented in the outhouse right now, given the hype,

(24:54):
given how many people I keep hearing people say this
is like last year when they were eight and three,
they were in the mix for the number one overall seat,
and then they've just lost basically every game since and
that game on Monday. Playing in Buffalo is difficult, and
when you get down in that situation, it can snowball

(25:15):
on you. But to lose forty seven to ten, this
is not a one double a team against an SEC team.
This is not one of those situations like you have
a two and are million dollar quarterback, you have a
first round running back of first round wide receiver Christian
Kirk's been very productive, You've got multiple first rounders on defense, like,
you got players that a lot of other teams would want,

(25:38):
and you're getting curb stumped in drug through the mud
in front of we'll get into this in a minute
nineteen million people. So I just I think the Jags
are in a really, really bad spot. And Doug had
some comments today like he's handling adversity, well, he knows
it's been on him. All that stuff's great, but you

(26:00):
can say whatever you want. That was pretty gutlass. And
when your quarterback is playing as poorly as he is,
and let's face it, like he's super rich and he'll
never have to worry about money the rest of his life,
but that has to weigh on you a little bit
if you're a human being, Like I've been given all
this money I was told, like I'm the savior of

(26:22):
the franchise, and once you start playing that it can snowball,
and I think there's a chance it could get even worse.
So my penhouse Chiefs, Bills, Steelers, and the Vikings, and
my outhouse is strongly held by the two to zero
to three teams Titans and Jags. I know the Bengals

(26:42):
are rowing three to two, but I think they're in
a different level than these two teams. A couple of
quick things on the NFL. I don't like the doubleader
like I just like watching one game on Thursday night,

(27:04):
on Sunday night and on Monday night. I think it's
a pretty special occasion for the team, for the players.
I know the players and coaches sometimes don't like you know,
Monday night, it throws off your week, you got to
wait around all day. But just in terms of knowing
it's a bright light game, knowing that everyone in the country,
everyone in your sport, they're all watching you play, I

(27:25):
do think it's diminished a little bit in its importance
when there are two games going on simultaneously. I mean
for two hours on Monday they both were being played.
There was a strong overlap. But I saw the numbers
today that it peaked between the two games at nineteen
million people, and at one point in time towards the end,

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when it was just one game, it was like fifteen
million people, and early on it was like thirteen million people.
This is all based on how many people view your stuff,
and the NFL loves having huge ratings, and they're in
bed with these TV partners. So if the TV partners
like this, it's not only not gonna stop, they're going

(28:09):
to add to it, which sucks, which is not something
I want. But I'm also not naive to the way
the world works. This is all about money, and the
way these people make their money is by more people watching.
So if you're ESPN, I would imagine you're gonna push
for more of this. And I guess the one bright

(28:29):
side is when you give two games, it does leave
the option if one's really bad, as was the Bills
Jags game an absolute blowout. We're getting two games again
this week. I didn't write down the other game, but
I know one of them's Titans Dolphins. I mean, that's
that's a terrible game. It's Titans Dolphins in Seattle Detroit,

(28:53):
which is an excellent game. But I think we'd all
be fine with if it was just Seattle Detroit, but
that's it's just not the world we live in. The
other story that I saw was Netflix, who needs broadcasters
for these Christmas games? Right? They're not just going to
get broadcasters from scratch. They're going to attempt to hire
people from other networks because Christmas this year, I think's

(29:17):
on a Tuesday or Wednesday, so you could hire people
that are working that following Sunday pretty easily if they
agree to it. Now, the story was that Netflix wanted
Burkhart and Brady do call one of the games, and
the headline was Fox declined. And my first thought was,

(29:38):
if you're Tom, I didn't retire from football to work
on Christmas. Now. If I was Fox, I'd want these
guys on Netflix. I don't see how it hurts. It
would just be good Tom Brady, everyone's at home. But
to me, my educated guest here is Tom wants no

(29:59):
part of this game. Not because like it's been rough,
it's been struggle, it's been you know, people have been
making fun of him that he's not any good. It's like, no,
I retired from football for my entire career, even if
we didn't play on Wednesday or Thursday during the week,
I still had to go into the like my Christmas
was not like normal people Christmases. I don't want to work,

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and I don't blame him. I wouldn't want to either,
but they got denied. The last thing I want to
hit on is this story out of UNLV. The Burry
otom for Missouri. Coach has UNLV three to ohero for
the first time in like forty years. They've only had
like two winning seasons in the last twenty five years.

(30:42):
I mean, this is this is a bad football program.
And they have a massive game this week for the
Mountain West against Fresno State. It's a huge swing game
that could determine you know, who's in the conference championship game.
My dogs, led by Tim Skipper, roll into Vegas and
this morning their starting quarterback, Matt Sluka, who's a former

(31:08):
Holy Cross quarterback transferred in this year, said I'm out,
I'm red shirting you guys screwed me. I'm no longer
gonna play for you now. Before we dive into this
individual situation, obviously there are takes flying left and right.
Everyone had an opinion, and I was like, I'm gonna

(31:28):
wait to tweet something before what side is true? Who knows?
But it was like, is this the start of something?
Get ready for more of this? Let's not forget we're
talking UNLV football. If Alabama at LSU Ohio State, I'd

(31:50):
say any top twenty ish program who was three and
zero and their quarterback wanted a little more money, they
would take care of it. This is not a situation.
I'm not saying it's never gonna happen, because it will
one day. I'm talking a top player Matt about what
he's getting paid and just quitting for a marquee brands

(32:14):
like wait, Michigan just lost their starting linebacker because he
wanted more money and he just quit. It will happen.
But I do think at quarterback, if this happened at
a premium program who is playing well, it would get
figured out and it would get figured out fast. I
feel pretty confident on that now. Clearly for most of us,

(32:40):
anyone that's in a job that's based on a contract,
like what I do, I'm in a contract and a
partnership with Colin and the volume. It's very well laid out. Obviously,
if you are an at will employee and you make
fifty grand, two hundred grand, whatever. There are times when you, hey,
we need to revisit this. This is not working out

(33:01):
human nature. Welcome to real life. Now, in sports, when
you were under contract and you make whatever, you make
a million bucks, five million bucks, fifty million bucks, that
money's the money. Now when the season ends, you can negotiate,
but there's not much negotiating unless there's going to be
a big contract extension during the season. So if you're

(33:24):
gonna get a raise, you're gonna get a contract extension.
In a situation like this, which is kind of a
one off, a little more complicated. Now, let's just use
this scenario in which he was promised, because there are
a couple of stories out there. He put out the
story that he was promised or well reported, which clearly

(33:44):
coming from his camp one hundred thousand dollars, and he
has yet to receive any of it. I think it's
very fair that any of our lives. I bet we
got a lot of people in sales that listen to me.
If you do a deal with some one for one
hundred thousand dollars, your company, your business, whatever the company

(34:05):
you represent, I provide why, and you provide X, which
is one hundred grand. The moment they don't provide the
one hundred grand or the payments toward that hundred grand,
you have a problem. Basic business. Welcome to the real world.
The longer you live, I'm promising you, if we got
some people that are young and in college in high

(34:26):
school that listen to this, you will experience that stuff.
I have a lot of people listening have as well.
And then usually the deal ends, the partnership ends. You
stop providing whatever you promise because they're not paying. Welcome
to life. So if that's the case, have no problem
with him being mad. If he committed to a deal

(34:47):
and they have provided the money, which they claim is true,
and that he went back to them and wanted a
raise because he had beat Houston, and who's the other team.
He'd be Houston and Kansas. So he's feeling himself. My
hundred grand, let's just pick a number. I want two

(35:09):
hundred more and they go listen one, This ain't Oregon
or USC. It might be a city full of money,
but they ain't given it to us. Here at UNLV football,
we can't provide that. Like I understand where they're coming from,
which like we don't have the capability to even find
this right now. So if that's the case, like I

(35:30):
understand both sides, whatever way the situation actually played out
right now, we don't know, because there are two stories
that are completely opposite. But I'm also not that shocked
because when I was at Fresno State, I think we
had one transfer on the team, and it was a
guy that had played at Oregon and transferred. But back then,

(35:52):
this was in the two thousands, if you transferred from
another Division I school, So I met Oregon and I
transferred to Fresno State, he had to sit out a year.
So if I had played as a true freshman and
I transferred the next year, I have to blow my
red shirt year. If I've already red shirted, that year
just counts as if I played, even though I'm not

(36:14):
allowed to play. So most people, the most anyone transferred
was basically one time. Well, now, all these guys are mercenaries.
So this guy comes from holy Cross. I don't pretend
to know anything about them. I don't follow U and
OLV football, but he was clearly a heralded player at
holy Cross in the division there. He was the player
of the year in their conference. So he's a good player,

(36:36):
leads the team obviously passing statistics. Also, was there leading
Russia good athlete. This notion I've heard is like, how
could he let down his teammates? Well, when I was
at Fresno State and before the transfer portal, anyone listening
to me that played college football for the most part,
you were with the same crew of guys for four
or five years. They weren't just your teammates. As you

(37:00):
get older, your lifelong friends. They are people you spent
every waking moment with off season workouts, early morning workouts,
off season practice, training camp, the season. You have years
of equity with them. So when you talk about like
your close friends, like what you would be willing to
do for your close friends, you would be willing to
do more for them than someone you've known for six months,

(37:24):
even if you're a great guy, shirt off your back
type person. This notion that he just let down his teammates,
he fucking showed up six months ago. I mean, how
many close friends does this guy probably have on the team.
My guess would be under five. I wonder if this
plays out this way, because he got to college football
in two thousand, if he had been on UNLV's team

(37:47):
the entire his entire career, and the bulk of their
core guys he has known for several years. It would
probably be just as a human being, more difficult, But
I'm not surprised that this happened at all. His loyalty
to the team the coaches is not anywhere near what

(38:07):
it used to be before transferport And trust me, I
know a lot of old school people around college football.
I've gotten a lot of texts. I'm not shocked at all,
and at the end of the day this, I don't
care that it's UNLV and I'm glad. I think this
would be a nice win for the Dogs. But how
can anyone be shocked these guys. They don't know these

(38:29):
people that well. They simply do not. If he had
been a three year starters like years of time with
the three offensive lineman, his wide receiver, the five guys
that are still there on defense, these guys would be
people that will be at his wedding. He'll be at
their weddings like one of them will probably be the
godfather to his children. That ain't the case anymore in

(38:50):
college football. These guys are moving around left and right,
so I just think the overreaction to like this is
what a guy that showed up months ago has a
discrepancy with the school on how much he's worth or
they didn't pay him or he should be paid. Now,
quit not shocking at all. Okay, let's dive into the

(39:22):
mailbag at John Middlecove, Instagram, fire and those dms. Get
your question answered here on this show. Question for the back,
I want to know your thoughts on the upcoming Bills
Ravens Sunday Night football game. I remember saying that these
franchise mirror each other and I couldn't agree more. Also
wanted to know if you're betting this game as well.

(39:46):
I think from a big picture standpoint, when you start
three to zero, you just get a big win on
Monday Night and you're going on the road for this game.
All the pressure to me is on the Ravens. They're
one and two. You can't start one three this is
it's way more pressure on the Ravens than it is
the Bills, just based on their record and it's at home.

(40:07):
But I looked this is a tough little stretch for
the Bills. Get the Ravens Sunday Night in Baltimore, following
week Houston Texans in Houston, then the following week the
Jets Monday Night Football. So I think if you're the Bills,

(40:31):
if you win two out of three of those games
and you are five and one, I mean you're in
right there for the number one overall seed. If you
lose two of three of them and you're three and two,
I think we go. God. You know, you beat up
on the Jags, you came flying back against the Cards,

(40:54):
you beat the crap out of the the crappy Dolphins,
but you play three potential playoff teams and lost. So
if they don't win this game, they would have to
win the next two games to feel really good and
kind of validate where I think they're gonna go. But
I would lean the Ravens in this game. I just

(41:15):
think they got way more on the line. You start
zero to two in the fashion in which they did,
you're kind of digging yourself out of a hole. But
I was burned so bad by the Ravens in that
game against the Chiefs. I just have a hard time
putting money on them right now. But I would take
the emotion out of it. If I was to gamble

(41:35):
the game. I would put money on the Ravens, one
thing I've been doing and if you follow me on
social media, so I hit a big touchdown parlay. Seventy
five bucks turned into ninety two hundred felt pretty good.
I don't think the people at DraftKings my partners were
too happy with me because I've hit two parlays, one
in the US Open for about nineteen grand. In that

(41:56):
one for nine, I almost hit an outrageous one two
weeks ago that would have paid like two hundred thousand dollars.
It was like a fifty dollars parlay. I do like
doing touchdowns, so if I don't feel great about the game,
gambling on it. Like the Monday Night Football. There are
two games I put money on Brian Robinson, I put
money on Khalil Shakir. I put money on Jamar Chase

(42:17):
and one other guy to score a touchdown, and they
all score touchdowns. Jamar actually scored two, so you know,
I would like Henry to score. I would like I
think Keon Coleman's gonna score another time, like I would
do that. So when I don't like gambling on a game,
on a night game or I'll do it again on

(42:37):
the doubleheader for Monday Night Football. I will bet touchdowns,
take you know whatever, twenty thirty bucks, fifty bucks, and
pick like four guys anytime touchdown running backs and receivers,
so to me, James Cook touchdown machine Khalil Shakir already
has two touchdowns on the season, Like he's kind of

(42:58):
a go to guy for Josh, and clearly they're gonna
try to keep Dereck Henry in the mix. So that's
probably the way I'm gonna gamble that game. It's a
way that like, instead of putting a lot of money
and sweating out the whole game, parlay three guys pays
I don't know, you can get it to like ten
to one, and uh you root for guys' score touchdowns.

(43:20):
I'm not just saying that because they're paying me. I
legitimately have been doing that and it's been awesome. And
I won and I gave Maria a huge hug because
we were about to eat dinner in the fourth quarter
and I saw that ball go up, I'm like, please
be to one, and then I saw it was Jamar
Chase and I went fucking bananas. Is it my imagination

(43:42):
or do NFL players get injured more frequently than they
used to, especially despite major advances in medicine, health and technology.
Still early in the season and it seems like nearly
every team is already dealing with an onslaught of injuries. Well,
I don't think you're wrong. I think my theory has

(44:04):
been twofold one. There's a reason when you were preparing
to go to the octagon or a boxing match, that
you consistently spar and before, like the last fifteen years
in the history of football, you had double days in pads.

(44:25):
How when I was a kid in high school, we
had three straight weeks of double days in one hundred
and ten degree heat. It sucked, It was really hard.
But when I got to Fresno State, same thing. Maybe
after two weeks you get one practice off and you
develop callouses and it toughens you up. I also think

(44:50):
that guys now, which is commendable, they train all year long,
well forever, you know, guys would take a lot of
time off and work themselves back into shape. I do
wonder if just the constant working out and never really

(45:11):
taking any time off at the level in which these
guys train is hard on your body. So you play
football when you've been training three sixty five to get
stronger and bigger than ever, and then the only time
you full speed hit is in games. I mean, there
are stories, you know, back in the early two thousands,
and the history of the league is like you'd be

(45:32):
in full pads definitely Wednesday and Thursday in the NFL.
I've bet a lot of teams as the season goes
on don't really practice in full pads. How can you
prepare for a football game when you're not doing that?
I think it's very, very difficult, and I think that's
a huge, huge reason for the onslaught of these injuries.

(45:57):
This is from Harrison, who's got seven point eight thousand
followers doing pretty well here. Harrison wanted to give you
props for saying that after watching the Bears Colts game
the Closer, a little Closer, you were impressed with Caleb
than you initially thought. Clearly, he's been some throws but
has gotten better every week. Bears not being able to

(46:19):
run the ball is a massive problem. I agree. I
think I've heard a couple old school guys say this,
and it's just it's clear as day. When you can
run the ball, it takes so much pressure of any quarterback,
let alone a rookie, and the Bears to throw the

(46:42):
ball fifty times, fifty times in a game where the
majority of it you were down single digits is like
you got to be high on drugs. How is that possible?
How can you throw that many times? When I'm pulling
up the game because I don't want to get this

(47:03):
score wrong, but the halftime score was seven to nothing.
It was seven to three with like a minute left
to go in the third quarter, and then they scored
and went up fourteen to three. So the overwhelming sixty

(47:26):
percent of the game, you're down seven to nothing or
seven to three. He got to run the ball more.
You have to and maybe DeAndre Swift. Isn't that? Then
play someone else? Do you think the Jags could fire
the current coaching staff and hire Belichick and McDaniels. As

(47:47):
much as I like Doug, it's clear the team is
not organized and our game plans are a pathetic. Well,
if Belichick returns the Jags or whoever, I think it
is fair to assume and it would be an upset
if Josh McDaniels is not as offensive coordinator like I
think do we have universal agreement on that. I think

(48:09):
it'd be a pretty big curve ball if wherever Bill goes,
if Josh is not as oc. I think the defensive
coordinator is kind of clear too for whatever reason. And hell,
this guy might be nice and cool outside of football.
Bill loves Matt Patricia. If you end up on any

(48:31):
of Belichick's YouTube stuff, Patricia's sitting right next to him.
Obviously Patricia doesn't have much going on either, but it
shows you, Like, obviously Bill and Lombardi are boys, but
he he loves Patricia, so I And if you watch
some of these, like Bill will talk a little shit,
like Bill will say, Patricia still talks like a coach

(48:51):
afraid to offend anybody. It's like, bro, I nothing angers
me more then, like if you're gonna be in this
space and talk about it and like the games, like
can you be critical every once in a while. It's
not like you're mister entertainer like John Gruden, who I
would say leans a little positive, even though if you
got him off Mike, he could probably be pretty negative.
But John's like hooton and hollering. Patricia's just like, can

(49:15):
you bring anything more to the table? Than something I
could say, coach his lead for twenty years, but I
think it's I would assume, let's just hypothetically say Dougs
fired at the end of the season, so is bulky
that the coaching staff would be Bill as the head coach,
McDaniels as the offensive coordinator, and Patricia as the defensive coordinator,

(49:38):
which would be I mean, how fun would that be for? Uh? Trevor,
help me understand what it is about teams like the
Pats of the two thousands and now the Chiefs, where
opponents all of a sudden do stuff uncharacteristically. Looking at
the Falcons, Bengals and Ravens games first the chief there

(50:00):
were several head coaching plays, calls, decisions by the coaching staff.
I do think once you get to a certain level,
if you're playing you know, a great NBA team, if
you were playing Tiger Woods or Scottie Scheffler in their
prime and golf, if you're playing one of the big

(50:21):
three tennis guys you know Joker, Nadal, Federer, any of
those type. I know the new guy forget his name
in the Spanish, dude who's not obviously on their level yet.
But when you get the aura of like they're just
gonna win, they always win. I do think it gets
in your head and you don't think straight, because it

(50:44):
clearly happened to the Patriots a lot, like teams would
kind of mentally crumble and they wouldn't Now. I think
Bobby Knight always had the famous saying that dumb loses
more games than smart wins. It's probably true, like making
mistakes is a big problem, But I do think there

(51:06):
are certain opponents. Brady and Belichick were like this forever.
As someone that loves Tiger Woods, he was definitely like this.
You know, way back in the day, Jordan was, you know,
one percent would fall under this umbrella where you just
get tight, you just get nervous. And I think it's

(51:26):
human nature. Even if you didn't play college sports, if
you played high school sports and you ever played against
you know, guys that you know whatever the sport, being
like this guy's going d one, you do feel it
inside a little bit. If you, you know, play tennis
or golf and you're playing someone for money, I don't
know in tennis, do you play guys straight up for

(51:47):
money like we do in golf, and you know that
like you're not better than that guy, even if you're
out playing him, it can kind of get in your
head when it gets net crunch in time. I think
the great part about all this stuff is at the
end of the day, you're dealing with humans, like this
is not a computer based on them. Like there are emotions,
and I think the best way to have success in

(52:11):
sports is to just play, not think. Like your thinking's
part of your preparation, but you don't have to think
while you're playing. It's what makes the teams the best,
Like it's why the Patriots and the Chiefs like it
doesn't feel like they overthink stuff. I do think their
opponents sometimes getting their own heads. It happened last year
with the Ravens and Lamar. You could see it when

(52:33):
they were playing. It's like, Lamar, just stop overthinking this.
Definitely Todd Munkin, I've been listening for a while, one
of my favorite pods. I like this guy. I have
a question about this past weekend. This is two weeks ago.
I just can't wrap my head around the outcome of

(52:55):
the Raiders in Panther game. I understand that Dalton is
a more more capable passer than Bryce, and he's a veteran,
But how are the Panthers all of a sudden able
to crush the Raiders the way they did. They couldn't
do shit for two weeks. And I'm not even talking
about the quarterback but the offense in general. This game

(53:18):
was never close, in my opinion, another interesting weekend for betters.
When all of the zero and two teams win games
have a great day. This piggybacks on what we just
talked about. I think you see it a lot when
a head coach is fired and interim coach comes in.
We're dealing with human beings, so there is a belief that, like, okay,

(53:42):
this change is going to help us out, and maybe
I give a little bit more energy in practice, maybe
during the week I come with a smile on my
face to work Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and just more
into the meetings and more attentative. I think you can
never underestimate this part about sports in general, but specifically

(54:06):
football is the power of belief. And sometimes when it's snowballs,
you stop believing in a coach, you stop believing in
a quarterback. You know, Listen, we can debate whether like
you can manifest things in life you know how the
mind is clearly really powerful. I think I would argue

(54:28):
that you can't like manifest specific things, but I do
think that when you put your mind to something, you
gain positive outcomes over time. It might not happen immediately,
but think as a player, like, how could you if
you were Adam Feelin have any faith in Brescia? How

(54:49):
could you if you were the offensive lineman. It's like,
even when we block, you skip balls into the dirt.
So Andy Dalton, who's been playing the league feels like
twenty years, comes in. There's probably a confidence when he
des steps in the huddle like I know the player,
I know where to throw the ball now, whether the
ball actually gets there and stuff. Obviously he played well,

(55:10):
but I think that's an underrated aspect of football. It's
why there's so much pushback so often from football guys, players,
coaches to the black and white analytical community. You have
to do this, well, every game is different. You gotta

(55:30):
go for it. In this situation, Well, what if we
have the worst offensive line and the worst offense in
the league and our defense is a top five defense,
aren't we better off punting here? Seeing if we get
a turnover? And that's where I think the arguments go
back and forth because of all the games, all the sports,
the intangible aspect of like toughness, grit, you know, things

(55:53):
that you can't measure outside of the stat sheet and
production and physical attributes football. It's why so many guys
as undrafted free agents have ten year careers because you
couldn't quantify how tough they were, how much they wanted it,
how deep down burning in their soul. Obviously you have

(56:14):
to have talent in the NFL, but like how much
football means do them, how football smart they are? Whenever
I bullshit with coaches and I talk to scouts more
than I do coaches, But like whenever I see coach
read at the combine or text him a question, I
think you'd be stunned how often that Like they talk

(56:35):
about football intelligence, meaning like how guys can handle stuff
and not because like guys that don't know what they're doing,
it can snowball fast, but like guys that are really
football smart, it's way easier to play fast and think
about like Andy Dalton is a smart football guy, but

(56:56):
knock on him has always been like does he have
enough talent so if he plays a good game. You know,
he knows what he's doing. It'd be Andy Dalton in
that game if he was a basketball player. What he
just had one of those days he was like, God, dude,
what eight of nine from three pointers? Yeah, it was
just hot man, couldn't miss. After the game, he'd be like, Yeah,

(57:18):
I just felt good. Leave in my hand. Whenever I
played Madden, I like to imagine what you, Colin and
McAfee would say about my team after every game. I'm
a Seahawks fan and wondering if there is a path
out of the Geno Smith purgatory. He's not bad enough
to get a top round pick. He's not bad enough

(57:40):
to get a top pick, but he's not good enough
to make the throws late in games and big time moments.
And he has zero and five against the Niners. Thanks
in advance. I think you just got a trust in
John Schneider is he is going to do something drastic
and bold. And I think depending on how this season goes.

(58:03):
You know, if you win eleven games, who do you play?
You play the Lions. So let's say you lose that game,
play the Lions in Detroit. Okay, I'll give you a
loss so you're three and one. Let's just play you
play the Giants at home. I mean, you've got a
pretty good shot to be four and one going into
that nine or Thursday game. But even if you beat

(58:25):
the Giants, who were to lose to the Niners, you're
four and two. Then you play the Falcons, the Bills,
the Rams, the Niners, the Cards, the Jets, the Cards,
the Packers, the Vikings, the Bears, the Rams. To me,
there's a difference of being in purgatory and winning like
seven eight games and just being like this sucks. If

(58:47):
you're in purgatory and you make the playoffs and win
double digit games. If you win, go ten and seven
this year, and let's just speak conservative and say you
win a wildcard, you don't win the division. Two out
of three years you made the playoffs, that's pretty good.
You know. It's funny. I was text with a buddy
the other day, my buddy Scotty, who uh just texted me,

(59:09):
We're gonna put a little money on the international team
for the President's Cup on on draft Kings. You get
him two seventy five to one before they tee off
on Thursday morning. And I was saying, you know what's
crazy about like the forty nine ers. They have been
to seven conference championships since twenty eleven, seven three super
bowls in are zero to three. It sucks like these

(59:32):
who knows they may never win a super Bowl again
as possible been some franchise and the Eagles didn't win
a super Bowl first time in franchise history twenty seventeen.
It's no guarantee you're ever gonna win one. But would
you take that fifteen year run where basically the majority
of the years you're not just good, but like you're
a real player. In half those conference championships are going

(59:54):
to the super Bowl, and it's just it's an incredible
six months. And really when you're good, it's it's an
awesome year because you talk and think about your team
a lot. Or would you choose the Giants, who have
two of the more impressive underdog super Bowl victories in
the history league. I mean, two thousand and seven is
one of the greatest upsets of all time. It's your

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boys first big sports bet. I bet all the money
I had with my roommate Trenton, and we watched it
alone and it was awesome. I think they were like
got him in like plus thirteen, but ten of the
last twelve years the Giants started zero to two. So
it's like their highs have been incredibly high and they

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got parades, but for a lot. If you're thirty years old,
you've seen a couple of Super Bowls, but you have
seen a lot of shitty football. And I don't know
if there's a right answer, because there's nothing as a
sports fan like you know, being invested, especially if you
go to some games, you have friends and family, if

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you live in the areas, it's a big part of
the community and you know your life. So winning a
championship is incredible, but those shitty years, and if there's
a lot of them, that sucks. So I think we
both settled on Obviously there's nothing like super Bowls, but

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I think you would want your team if you could
just guarantee every year be pretty good. There's value in that.
So this gets back to Seattle, like, could be worse,
could be worse? Chiefs fan here, currently third quarter of
the Chiefs Falcons game New Slash. You guys won, What
do you think the Chiefs red zone problem has been

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this last year? One would think that arguably the best
head coach, quarterback and tight end of all time would
be able to dial up a few plays for touchdowns,
kind of like the last two Super Bowls where they
had multiple wide open touchdowns. I understand they don't want
to show their cards until the playoffs, but still frustrating. Well,
I mean there's a lot of conversation out there. Obviously
Travis is starting slow. Whether you know, I saw Todd

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McShay went on this rants out of shape? Is he old?
Does it just take him a while to get going?
I mean, he's your best red zone target, right He's
the best pass catching tight end the history of the league.
He's your best red zone target? How many? I mean,
you're talking about a guy did if I just pull
up his wiki page and go down to his stats,

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I mean Travis was basically starting with Mahomes. You're talking ten, eleven, nine, twelve.
So for from twenty eighteen he had five touchdowns, which
a little down nineteen, but then eleven and twenty nine
and twenty one, twelve and twenty two. Last year A

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had five and this year at zero. I mean that's
that's a big swing. Right now. Pachaco's injured. You know,
I steal his own family didn't think he was an
NFL player. Who's your best receiver? She Rice? Which I like,
I mean where she Rice is good, But I think

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having Kelsey kind of looking his ages is a red
zone issue. Mike from Chicago, I just wanted to get
your thoughts on Caleb Williams after Week three. Personally, this
week he showed me that he's really worth the first
overall pick, showed lots of improvement, still making several rookie mistakes.
Totally agree. I said that I think on what would

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that have been Tuesday's podcast that he showed a lot
in that game. It's your offensive coaching staff's atrocious, your
running game bad, your play calling is bad, but you
watch him. I'd take that guy in my team, you know,
if I was a coach or a GM and a heartbeat,
Anthony Fremer said, that's in the valley in California. Even

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though I don't watch the Niner game, I got notifications
throughout the game and watched highlights after Perti and Jennings
carried the team. But because the defensive failing in the secondary,
another missed opportunity, will this lose overshadow how good Perty
was throwing and in the running game, do you think

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Perty's performance will change critics. Nothing is gonna change Perty's critics.
They will not go away. I think he is the
easiest target for critics, and we've exhausted this conversation. It
all has to do with his draft status. And when
you're drafted later and you have success, you are a
more polarizing player. Dak has been the most polarizing player.

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Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson. People forget Russell is very polarizing
in the prime of his career. If they were number
one overall picks and did what they did, like Trevor Lawrence,
everyone would talk about him as top five quarterbacks. But
when you get drafted in the third, fourth, fifth, last
pick in the draft, people nitpick you. It's funny, you know.

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I guess sometimes I think for the rest of my life,
my job is to just be critical of things. You
kind of like look in the mirrors, like that's what
you want to do, which is kind of essentially what
this job becomes. It's like, well that's kind of how
I talk, right, I mean, it's just it's not like
I'm faking any of this, Like I'm watching the show

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on the Mendoza Brothers that on Netflix that killed their
parents back in nineteen eighty nine. Their dad was like
this hot shot music kind of Hollywood guy, and the
two brothers, two good looking guys that were nineteen and
twenty one spoiler alert, just annihilated their parents with shotguns.

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And it's this crazy story and you're watching it, and
while it's very entertaining, you're just thinking, like how much
of this is true? You're like reading articles talking with Maria,
I'm just naturally kind of nitpicking, like is this real?
Is this what really happened? You know, the meat, like
the killing happened, but the show was about everything else.

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I mean a huge part of it was like the
dad was molesting the kids, but like, is that actually true?
Is it not true? And no one knows at this
point in time thirty five years later. Some people say
it's true, some people are vehemently against it never happened.
You just hit them, And you know, I think we're
just all kind of naturally critical of because I left

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the show thinking like that was really entertaining and I
enjoyed most of it, but is that just like a
is a lot of all this stuff made up? For
television to entertain me while I'm laying in bed at
nine thirty at night, or or is eighty five percent
of this reel. And in a weird way, you kind
of feel bad for the boys if that actually happened

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with their dad sodomizing them. They're like Jesus, I wouldn't
blame him blowing his head off either, But you just
I guess that's a cool part about sports. There's a
lot of unknown in terms of like who really wanted
this guy in the draft? Or you know, how many
options did this guy actually have in free agency? Or

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I traded a third round pick for him, could have
got him for a fourth. Yeah, we can. But at
the end of the day, the games come and we
all watch them, and you're either winner you lose it,
And there's nothing quite like sports of like you could
play well, but if you lose, like yeah, Joe Burrow
had a good game and he lost it sucks. And
if you're a Bengals fan, like, yeah, Burrow was great,

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I hope so over paying him fifty million dollars a
game or a year, we're rolling three. I mean, we're
borderlines screwed here. So now I saw Jamar Chasemith's practice,
and it's just one of those things that you know,
you could talk about politics too. You're blue in the face.
The government, like all these people that just it's like
nothing ever changes, the same bullshit. The bureaucracy. It's like

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that's got to be exhausting at least on Saturdays or
Sundays or hell, if you talk high school football, it's
like you got a winner and a loser, and you
just kind of dive into what happened The volume mhm