3 & Out - Cowboys take down the Giants, Fugazi Friday, Stuckey joins the podcast - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Everybody? John Middlecop three and Out podcast, It's Fugazi Friday,
Happy Fugazi Friday. And many people will consider the Dallas
Cowboys a giant fugazi. But they did win tonight and
short week on the road your number one goal, no
matter how bad it looks, and it didn't look great,

(02:22):
they won twenty to fifteen. Now, granted, Aubrey, Who's I
gotta talk about? I didn't quite realize the extent of
his story from soccer player to minor league football player
to I don't know, Justin Tucker two point zero, but
twenty to fifteen get a win on the road, the
Giants fall. They go two and two with a really

(02:43):
really hard schedule coming up the Giants. Meanwhile, one in
three Malik Nabors looks like he got a concussion, fell
in his head at the end of the game trying
to catch the ball, and look destined to not be
very good. Could not run the ball tonight against a
bad Cowboys defense, and just they just struggle to score touchdowns.

(03:05):
Right if Molik Neighbors ain't scoring touchdowns. He looks fantastic,
another really really productive game, looks like he's on pace.
Hopefully doesn't miss any time for a Puka Nakua type
rookie season. I mean, he's a baller, but they don't
have many other ballers. And just injuries in general. It's
just something that every day I look at a headline,

(03:26):
I see these injury reports. It's just crazy. I don't
have a solution, but it does feel and I get
this question a lot in the mail bag worse than ever.
I mean, they're just stars all around the league. I mean,
it's not even October and it's this guy's constantly hurt.
Yet all we've done is like safety, you can't hit anybody,

(03:49):
and no one practice is like are we sure this
is working? And obviously Pugazi Friday, I did want to
hit on something that I saw last week that I've
actually been thinking about for a while while. When it
comes to Zillo pictures. Maybe you use real Litter dot
com or whatever website you I'm a Zillo guy, but
it really it really set it in yet last week

(04:13):
when I went on on a little showing trip with
my fiance who sells homes, that you gotta be careful
for this fugazi. But we'll have a big mail bag.
I'll have a podcast out this weekend. We're gonna start
doing some mail bags just on Saturday, because today Stucky
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let's dive into the game now, big picture, and I'm
a big believer in this. On Thursday night games, especially
if you are the road team team like Dallas, you're

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pretty heavily favored. Thankfully for Aubrey missing a kick which
feels like he could make into sleep the Giants covered.
We gave that bad boy out on Thursday's pod. But
if you win on Thursday night on the road, I
don't care how it looks. Obviously, if you have devastating injuries,

(06:23):
we'll find out the severity over the next you know,
twenty four hours on Lawrence on on Micah Parsons who
you know. Not ideal by any means, but a win's
a win. And listen, this is the NFL. This is
not college football. You're not going to beat teams by

(06:44):
twenty points. I have no problem getting ugly wins on
Thursday night. And on the bright side, obviously dak has
looked good this season. Ceedee Lamb is doing everything that
you would want out of a guy that gets that
much money. The amount of text messages I got tonight
from forty nine er fans It's like you're telling me

(07:06):
Auk holds in and obviously I ucus not the player.
Ceedee lamb is this guy holds out shows up September first,
and it's just absolutely dominating, Like, yeah, that's what dominant
players do, Like Justin Jefferson and him are basically the
modern day Randy Mausinterrell Owens Obviously got a long way
to go to match those guys' careers, but they are dominant,

(07:26):
dominant players and DAK and CD is like a special
combination right now. But the main question on this Cowboy
team is it was not going to be answered tonight
because we said it coming into the games, like you're
not playing Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, You're not playing
Alvin Kamara in the Shanahan scheme. You're playing Singletary in

(07:47):
the Giants offense, who did not rush for thirty yards tonight.
So you can give the Cowboys credit for handling the
line of scrimmage, but I think you also be realistic.
This was a good matchup for them. This was not
a team that was gonna run for one hundred and
fifty yards on them. And in turn, Daniel Jones, listen

(08:07):
if Trevor Lawrence just had the game Daniel Jones had,
we would not be as critical as we've been with
Trevor Lawrence. Like, Daniel Jones looks pretty good. Honestly, if
you just watch him and Dak, it doesn't at least
tonight doesn't feel like there's a big difference. Now. I
do believe that Dak is a better thrower on the
go route. Daniel Jones, that's somewhat of a bugaboo is

(08:30):
underthrowing just the route down the sideline, which he did tonight,
But in fairness to him, the dude dropped it. It
hit him in the hands. There were a couple plays
a night where it's like, yeah, not ideal ball placement.
But this isn't high school football. It's the NFL. You know,
if you touch it, you gotta clutch it, like if
it hits your hands, even if you have to adjust,

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you got to make the play. But I do think
the big picture question mark for the Cowboys is like
the injuries, right Digs coming in out of the game
with cramps happened short week. Maybe you're dehydrated. Obviously, if
Micah Parsons has to miss any time, Lawrence has to
miss any time, Like, how many defensive linemen can you lose?

(09:12):
The running game for them is obviously gonna be pretty average.
They haven't I don't want to say an elite passing game,
but they got a damn good passing game. Ferguson's an
excellent player. I also have no problem with this. And
while you're living through this, and I'm on a text
chain with some Cowboy fans, they're like, God, sixty sucks
to me. Part of drafting an offensive tackle high and

(09:35):
it's not like he's the third overall pick, you know,
the Cowboys in the playoffs. You're drafting in the twenties.
You kind of gotta live through it early on, and
ideally this guy can become your left tackle for a decade.
Now we're a long way away from feeling comfortable doing that,
but like, part of drafting a guy and immediately inserting
him at left tackle, like that's a difficult proposition. It

(09:59):
is gonna be a hold on to your ass moment
in some of these games. Part of the deal. It's
no different with these rookie quarterbacks. For every game that
we just saw out to Jayden Daniels, you're gonna see
some games where he throws a pick six and has
a fumble like it's part of the deal. It's it's
football in the NFL, like it happens to veteran players,
but definitely rookies. So he's gonna take a lot of crap. Like, listen,

(10:23):
I commend them starting the guy. Obviously they don't have
many other options, but like, you gotta live through it,
and if you're a Cowboy fan, you kind of keep
your fingers crossed. Then he can kind of figure it out.
But you know, can the defense want health? We know
blands out for a while and their line hold up
against the better teams they play, like when they play

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the forty nine ers, when they play the Texans and
Bobby Slowick when they play the Eagles. It will not
be the same as facing Singletary and Brian Daboll calling plays.
It just won't be. So did we learn anything? Did
they just fix their defense? I would say no, But
I would just say this Thursday night game, as a

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road team, you take the win, you get on the plane,
you get out of there, and you just pray to
God when you get some medical results over the next
twelve twenty four hours that it's nothing too crazy. But
anytime you got Micah Parsons without a shoe going on
a cart to the to the locker room, you know
it's a problem. Now. I didn't realize the extent of

(11:30):
the kicker story. I knew that he was a soccer player,
but when I went on Wikipedia and looked up Brandon Aubrey,
and again, you got to take it with a grain
of salt because Wikipedia, though I get a lot of
my information there, he obviously was a soccer player after college.
And when he got released from some team I'd never
heard of, and he was watching an NFL game and

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his wife looked at him and said, you could do
that this after kickers are missing, he starts training with
a guy. A couple of years later, he's in the UFL,
and I understand he missed the last kick of the game,
but I don't think it's really arguable he's the best
kicker in the league right now that there's no one
from fifty plus that not only you feel is automatic,

(12:13):
he's going to split the uprights. So like, listen, people
are hard on Jerry and you don't get that much
credit because he plays kicker. If he was a pass
rusher or a right tackle or something. That's a pretty
incredible find to find a guy. I think they mentioned
or I saw it on Twitter that he has more
points in Fantasy than like every tight end in the NFL.

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So he's a very, very valuable player. And if you're
gonna be like you just cross the fifty, you're in
his range. So what a story, what a find to
get the guy out of the UFL. I mean, it's
cool for him a soccer player. Just turn if I
was some of these other kids in soccer and I
had no future to make the MLS or make some

(12:57):
of these European leagues, I might start training and you
could tell, like after he makes a field goal. He's
not some five foot six kid. I mean, he's not even
a kid. He's twenty nine years old. He graduated from
Notre Dame or at least left to play professional soccer
in twenty nineteen. But he's interesting. But at the end

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of the day, listen to the Cowboys. I bet there's
gonna be a lot of negativity about them tomorrow, which
I understand. But you just had to win this game,
and it more than likely it wasn't gonna be pretty,
and it was not they do not look as potent
as they've looked in previous years. You just gotta find
a way till ideally you can get healthy maybe later

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in the season, to kind of hover around five hundred
and hopefully the Eagles fuck up a little bit along
the way. I think Washington's a little smoking mirrors because
their defense is I mean, you think the Cowboys defense
is bad, that defense is way worse. So, like, can
you compete to win this division if you can just hover,
you know, around five hundred and try to get to
ten to eleven wins. We'll find out a lot about

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the Eagles this weekend, who have a bunch of injuries.
You know, DeVante Smith had a concussion. Lane Johnson has
a concussion. We'll see how many of these guys play
against Tampa. We know how well Tampa played against them
last year. Now new coordinators, but still, like if you're
the Cowboys, you just got to find a way to
just keep your head above water. Obviously, tonight was must win.
You know, you couldn't fall to one in three like

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the Giants can fall to one in three. None of
us thought they were any good, and I think the
weird spot for them is you know, Daniel Jones is
kind of proving to be serviceable and he's not their problem.
I mean, their running game is just not going to
be good. Like listen, they made the financial decision to
let Sakuan go, but the drop off of him in
singletary when when Joe Shane is in that meeting with

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the owner saying, you know, for this amount of money,
I don't think there's a big difference. No, there's a
big difference, but you invest in other positions. Brian Burns
made a couple of flash plays, but man, I mean,
I just think you're in for a long, long season.
I mean, Malik Neighbor's clearly a special talent. He knocks
himself out trying to catch the ball on the sideline.
But it's just gonna be a long year. It really is.

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And we knew it coming in, and we know McCarthy's
coaching for his job. I think you have to question
the situation in New York, right, Like, if the GM
this quote unquote on the hot seat and this year
doesn't go well, usually don't just fire the GM and
keep the coach, and things can just get weird. And

(15:29):
let's face it, they have been weird in New York
for a long time. This team has not been good
since I can remember. I mean they've started zero to
two ten of the last twelve years, basically after they
won the Super Bowl. Beside the Miami love Boat year
where they got warped in Green Bay with Odell Beckham,
I think that was twenty sixteen, they have mainly been
pretty shitty and post Eli Manning, they have been a

(15:52):
train wreck. Beside two years ago when he won Coach
of the Year. Sometimes, hey, one coach in the year?
What theyre thirteen? Now they went nine to eight. It
was one of the greatest overachievement you'll ever see in
the history of the NFL. Now, they do have some
core players. You know, Lawrence is good, Cavon looks, you
know Solid. I don't know if he'll ever live up
to being a top ten pick, but he's a good player.

(16:14):
You got Burns, you got league neighbors. You know, you
got left tackle who played pretty well tonight. But overall,
this is a team going nowhere fast, and unlike Dallas,
there just aren't expectations beside maybe internally and with the
owner who has shown kind of to have a quick
trigger finger when it comes to keeping guys. That That's

(16:36):
why I keep talking about this situation in terms of
their job status, because the owner has proved it. You know,
he ran through coaches in GMS at pretty at a
rapid speed after having a long tenure with Tom Coughlin,
you know, from McAdoo to Schurmer to Joe Judge to
now these guys, who, I mean, what would you say?

(16:59):
Five wins? You know? I mean, it's just hard to
keep your job like five wins now in the NFL
with seventeen games, that's a brutal year. Man. And when
you have back to back situations where last year you're
drafting six, then again you're drafting let's just hypothetically say fourth,
because the thing they're not bad enough to have the
number one overall pick. And I think the question mark is,

(17:23):
you know, how many quarterbacks? And it's hard because there's
so much college football season left to play. Obviously there's
a quarterback inflation, but I think there's kind of you
have to wonder if there's gonna be a reverse of
that after seeing all these quarterbacks get drafted and a
lot of them not living up to the hype, are
you better off just taking molik neighbors and taking high

(17:44):
end players and maybe taking a guy in like the
second or third round. It's not usually what the fans want,
but when you take a guy really high. You see
it with Daniel Jones and he, you know, I mean,
been a total roller coaster of a career, but it
kind of teases you and then you get stuck and
you get into a weird spot. So I don't know, man,

(18:04):
it's gonna be a long, long season for the old Heygantes.
One big picture thing in the NFL that is just
obviously it's a violent sport and people have always got
injured playing the game, but it now feels early on
in the season that we've never had more injuries. I mean,

(18:25):
it's a consistency theme. I would say these last couple
of years that by the time we're getting into week four,
week five, like half the teams in the league are
missing most of their good players. And we've done a
good job as a sport. And I say we because listen,
I love football of protecting or attempting to protect the quarterback,

(18:46):
and I'm as guilty as anyone. I get pissed off
at it because some of them are like that's not
of you know, let that go. You don't need to
throw a flag. But we cannot function without those guys.
But I do think when you look at the taking
away double days in training camp, nobody plays in the preseason.

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Unlike previous generations. These guys do spend a lot of
money on their body in training twenty four to seven
three sixty five, and you have to wonder if that
catches up to them because they almost get so big
and so strong, but they don't play that much football
because in training camp you're not tackling to the ground,
and honestly, I would say relative to previous generations, it

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is not very conducive to practicing physical football. None of
them play in preseason games basically, and if they do
beside like Andy Reid squad, it's for a series or
two max. And then you immediately just start the games
which are just full go full lives. Everyone flying around,
guys getting hit, guys falling funny. And you have to

(19:52):
wonder if there's some sort of in boxing, you spar
for a reason, like you build up the callouses right,
you can go to the driving range until you can't
grip a golf club doesn't mean anything for your golf game.
Once you play an actual round, it's no different in
all these sports. You can play pick up basketball games,

(20:13):
you can take simulated BP. Obviously the games are so
much different. And there's nothing like football where in a
practice when you're not gonna tackle anybody, it is not
the actual sport, even if you are wearing full pats,
and you just see these guys constantly get injured and
not make it even into October. I'm not acting like

(20:36):
we need to go back to junction boy style and
have seven weeks of double days, but I think we
all can acknowledge, starting with the league office and who
was terrified to get sued for CTE stuff, that the
change in the rules, which the players fought for, which
the players fought for right the owners wanted more money,

(20:58):
they wanted less practice and more days off, has not
been conducive to their health and they're constantly getting injured more.
And then if you're the owners, because of the money
the league is making, you're never paying these players more
money at all these positions minus quarterback. And then you
go to the games and half of them are always
in street close. So how's that good for you. It

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feels like it's a lose lose for everyone, including us
the fans that just want to watch the best players play.
And like I said, it's football. Guys have always gotten injured.
It's a part of the game. But it feels on
a weekly basis when you just turn on the TV
on a Sunday or look at the internet on a Friday.
At the end of a practice week, it's like half

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the teams on the injury report being questionable or doubtful.
It did not feel like that. I mean, just go
to some of the best players, the Pro Bowl guys
in the eighties and nineties and look at how many
games they played over the course of their career. Most
of them, we aren't missing that much time. Now. The
counter argument could be, look at how long their careers were.

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They were a lot shorter. So I would imagine if
I was a player and I had an injury, I
would be less likely to push it because if I
can get that third contract, I mean, we bank another
sixty eighty one hundred million dollars. So I just know
that the we're just out of whack here, and I

(22:25):
don't think we're going back because they're not going to
add more physical practices, coaching stabs and definitely front offices
are not going to change their mindset on this. But
I think we're losing being us people that watch the sport,
The teams are losing, sucks for the players that can't
play in the games. It's just a shitty deal all around.

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And I'll get you out of here on this. I
do think one of the biggest fugays he's going. And
it really hit me last week. My fiance Maria has
this client. She's actually never met him in per since
she gets she got linked up with them. A rich
guy from southern California who wants to move here for
tax purposes by the start of twenty twenty five, and

(23:09):
he's been looking in these high end neighborhoods and he
was looking in this place that I wanted to check
out because it's like this private kind of it's not
even a golf course or seven golf courses, and each
golf course has its own like five star restaurant. And
basically people that live in this community never have to

(23:30):
leave because once you're a member, if you want to
be a social member, it's like one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. If you want to be a golf member,
it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and the wait
list to be a golf member is almost twenty four months.
And I'd heard about it, and she was shown she
was looking at a house there for him to take
some pictures. I'm like, I'll come. So I'm checking out
the Zillo and it's like two million dollar house that's
on the lower end of this community. And the pictures

(23:53):
on Zillo just made this thing look like, God, this
thing's a steal. And then you get there and pictures
on Zillo and I'm pro Zillo owned the stock. It's
been good for me. I'm about thirty five percent, but
they look nothing like Zillo. The house I'm sitting in
right now. I remember before we bought it, we've been
monitoring and I'm like, how is the price trapping on

(24:16):
this thing? Look at these pictures? And I remember coming
over here for the first time when we looked at it,
and I was like, Oh, that's why the price keeps dropping.
The house looks nothing like the pictures. Now, granted, we
gutted the whole thing, but that's why it needed It
was a full gut job. And I think one of
the biggest fugazi's is when you look at Zillo and
you look at these pictures. To me, it's like Instagram

(24:39):
filter or a dating app filter. Anyone that's ever used
dating app and you're like, gosh, he's kind of a babe.
And then you get there, you're like, oh, damn, I
was duped. And that's what it kind of feels like
right now. Now I get it. I would do the
same thing. I guess I've done similar, but I could
only do so much. In the last piece of property sold,

(25:00):
it was a condo. But I feel like pretty universally
that the pictures are the dating apps of houses. It's
a complete fool job. Now. Ultimately, most people, I guess
back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, a lot
of people around the country are buying home sight unseen.
I would say that's definitely a little different now with

(25:21):
interest rates being higher, obviously prices, you know, at an
all time high, so people are probably a little more
hesitant to not physically be at a place if they
don't live in the area. But I'd be very very
careful because I think these Zillow pictures I don't care
what the price point is. The price point could be,
you know, five hundred thousand dollars, or it could be
millions of dollars. Is a complete curve ball. You walk

(25:43):
into that thing, you're amped to see it, and then
you're like, wait, this was the picture of the backyard.
This thing, well what So keep an eye on those
Zillow picks. Okay, back at it again with my main man, Stucky.

(26:06):
All lines that we will be discussing or provided by DraftKings.
I got issues here, Stucky. I got some money riding
on the international team for the President's Cup. It's not
looking pretty three or four holes in, but you know,
we got a long week. I don't know if you
saw I hit a pretty big I wouldn't call it
a hail Mary, but a nice little touchdown parlay on

(26:27):
the doubleheader on Monday Night football, when Jamar Chase scored
touchdown number two. We celebrated in my living room as
I'm eating dinner, She's like, what are you doing? Like,
I just won ninth grand on that fucking touchdown? So
feeling good? Got momentum? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm doing well? I almost had a I had a
bunch of free bets on my wife's accounts, and I
went to my first ever Kentucky game against Georgia. I
never have time to go to the games like Saturday,
there's all these other college football games on, so I'd
never gone to a game. My father in law was

(27:07):
like season tickets. Uh, like up in the sweets, there's
like food. It's really nice. Went there. There wasn't a lot,
It wasn't a lot of other good games on at
the time, so I was like, I can get away. Go.
I used a bunch of free bets on Kentucky money
Line just to hail Mary against Georgia.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
What a ride.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, so close. I can't believe stoop spunted. So I
wasn't quite as fortunate as you there. But uh, the
international team that's very, very unpaid.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, well I got them almost like three to one
these tournaments. You know, the American guys now are so
rich and they don't care there's more on the line
now that they obviously have the better team. But I
just I put a couple hundred bucks and needed a
reason to pay attention. Just on the side, especially Thursday
and Friday during the day. It's just it's good television
product to have in the back. So I need a

(28:03):
little action.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
But uh, like the I can't say I time to
follow off right now? Who's that? Like? Belcal the international team?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well see you know, yeah, this the difference to the
Ryder Cup, which is Europe. This is basically Europe's not involved.
So it's like South America, Asia and Australia. The Australians
are pretty good. They got Adam Scott, Jason Day, Minwu Lee.
But yeah we're I'm an international guy this week, so
we'll see how that goes. But let's uh, let's play

(28:36):
a little game today. And I thought we'd play a
little fade or follow because I actually am feeling pretty
good about Saturday and I want to I think I
know where you're leaning on so far. I would say
the game of the year, and you know, coming into
the season before even you know, in the in the
off season, this is probably what would you say, Bama

(28:57):
Georgia just on paper a top two or three game
of the ring season if not number one? Yeah, you know,
I mean so obviously exactly so Michigan, Ohio State, which
has been that we'd remove that, Texas Oklahoma if Oklahoma's
a little down. Maybe if Tennessee Georgia play could play

(29:17):
into that, but it will so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
As of right now, Yeah, this is a top three
game of the year.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So let's just dive into that. My initial take is
this on fate or follow uh Kaylin du bore when
he has had an equal team or slightly better in
his career and he's been an underdog, which obviously hasn't
happened a lot over the last I don't know, definitely
the last two years. He's not only played well, he's won.

(29:45):
I mean he in that conference championship game against Oregon
in a neutral site which I would say lean's Oregon,
he kicked their ass and I was the number. Do
you remember the number? Washington, Texas wasn't like washing in
plus four four and a half. That was my favorite bet,
one of them I've ever made in my life. Obviously,

(30:06):
it was closer at the end than it should have been.
There was a moment where I think they fumbled up
punt or something. It could have been a twenty point
game at one point in time in this game, and
Kirby said this that the rosters because of nil and
transfer portal, are definitely not as deep as Let's say
that twenty one national championship team, right, that's just pros everywhere. Now,
these teams are still loaded relative to the rest of

(30:27):
the country, but the Sweet Saban teams, Sweet Kirby teams
are not as good. So it's fair to say that
the talent on these teams are pretty equal. Now, replacing
Saban's not easy, but listen, he wins this game. I
don't even think it'd be arguable that Kayln Newbor is
immediately a top two or three coach in the country. Right,
you could argue even if he just goes toe to

(30:49):
toe with him, But I think taking them and the
points at home, I don't think taking a money line's crazy. Again,
it's not like I feel one hundred percent confident they're
gonna win. I just really like, I know Bama's got
maybe not equal team, but it's like what ninety five
percent their quarterbacks, you know, I'd say change the narrative

(31:11):
on where I think most people thought he was going.
And I just loved their head coach. So I just
think the head coach, which it was easy to fall
off when you replay Saban. What if there's not really
that much of a falloff in the program when it
comes to the coaching. So I think getting Bama plus
points at home in a game where this Georgia team,
to me is just not as good as they have been.

(31:32):
You just saw him live. I mean, they're just what
about offense? Obviously the running backs are good, but are
they potent outside? Is there? I think the quarterbacks a
little overrated. Maybe I'm just overreacting to that Kentucky game,
but I don't know. I'm going Bama here.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I'm fading, So I'm going fader here. I will also say,
I mean I can't fault and for back into board.
VORs been against the spread monster wherever he's been, it's
at whatever level and whatever position he's coaching, he's his
teams have been just covers. I would. I will say,
I'm so I've been watching this line because I want
to bet Georgia, and I'm going to bet Georgia, just

(32:07):
waiting to see, like is it going to drop and
get a cheaper price? Is is it going to go
to three? It's it's really just been holding steady open
to pick last week and at a prominent book got
Georgia got hit, immediately went out to like two, two
and a half, and then it's kind of just sitting there.
If you do like Alabama, you might as well wait.
See if a three pops, I imagine it will get

(32:29):
bought quickly. But there's no harm. I shouldn't say no harm,
but there's not as much harm in waiting. And if
you know it comes down to two, you know, it's
not like it's a key number. But I actually like
Georgia in this matchup. I'll say for a few reasons. One,
Kirby the bor is a great coach. I'll give him that.
I expect Alabama to be prepared here. They're off a

(32:52):
by just like Georgia. But Kirby is no one is
better in the sport right now at motivating his team.
And the best thing that happened to Georgia was a
close game against Kentucky. And they're also trying to avenge
the SEC championship loss last year, which kept them out

(33:12):
of the College to a playoff, arguably kept them from
winning a national title. Jalen Milroe came out and said
that Georgia quit. They made Georgia quit in that game.
I mean, so Kirby smart in this spot and against
ranked teams. I think Kirby Smart's thirty one and thirteen
against the spread. I just dominant in this spot, dominant
against ranked teams. He can find things out of thin

(33:34):
air to motivate his team in these spots off a
poor showing. And they've had these like one off poor
showings every single year the last four years on the road.
A lot of times against Kentucky. They're just lower scoring games.
That game. Kentucky was just embarrassed the week before against
South Carolina. And Kentucky has pros on their defense.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's their super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, you knew they were going to come out. So Also,
George is gonna be a healthier wide receiver. They're gonna
get maybe the number one overall pick back, and Michael Williams,
who was out last game. They're gonna get Brinson back,
their best interior pass rusher. He was out last game,
maybe an out since the opener they got hurt against Clemson.
People are forgetting the Clemson game. I mean they destroyed Clemson.

(34:16):
Clemson since they looked pretty good, looks like a juggernaut.
That's the best data point that either of these teams
have in Kentucky's the top twenty defense, Clemson of Kentucky's
at Kentucky and Clemson our top twenty defenses. Who is
Alabama played? I mean and if you look, if you
dig a little deeper, you know they played South Florida.
South Florida played him toe to toe in Tuscaloosa until

(34:36):
the end. It was a five point game with I
think seven minutes to go in the game. Alabama added
I think three touchdowns late in the game, but toe
to toe and South Florida missed some wide open guys
down the field, wide open, four or five of them.
Western Kentucky horrendous this year, and their quarterback who's since

(34:57):
not the starter anymore, he missed some wide open guy.
Then you go out and play Wisconsin and their quarterback
gets hurt on the first drive and you're down to
a kid who can't throw it at all. The secondary
is extremely vulnerable. You got a kid, a transfer from
USC who's just decent, Demonni Jackson, and then you got
a bunch of raw freshmen who aren't experienced. There has

(35:19):
been Their safeties are good, but the corners are extremely vulnerable.
There's been wide open guys. You won't see it in
the advance that's just the teams that they've played haven't
been able to connect. I think Carson Beck and these
Georgia receivers they're not as good and they do miss
Bowers Delph's for delp. The tight end is supposed to
take a big step. You're a set. The Stransford transfer,

(35:40):
he was supposed to help. But their tight end room
has been very underwhelming. But their receivers, they still have
talent on the outside, not as talented. They've lost kid
kicked off the team. You know, they've had some injuries,
but they have enough talent here. And with that and
a really good offensive line, that's and and that is
one of the differences in this game is that the

(36:01):
Georgia offensive line is very good and they've already gone
up against two top fifteen defensive lines in the country,
maybe top ten. Alabama's offensive line has problems, and that's
gonna be a problem against Georgia, who, as pros on
their defensive line will be healthy this week. Alabama did
get proper back at left tackle. That helps them there.

(36:22):
It chores up that spot that was a I mean,
South Florida was dominating the trenches in that game, which
is very concerning you do get your left tackle. You
got them back against Wisconsin. That helps with the other positions.
It's troubling. So I think Georgia can take advantage. They're
going to What's gonna happen here is I think that
Georgia's offensive line is more equipped to handle the Alabama

(36:44):
front seven, which is very good just like Georgia's than
Alabama is. That's gonna give Beck enough time to take
advantage of these Alabama corners. And then I think the
Georgia defensive line is going to be able to create
enough negative plays against Nora. And Look, they're gonna have
a great game plan here. They're going to take away
the explosive pass, They're going to force Milroe to throw

(37:04):
in the intermediary range. They're going to try to take
away his legs. They're going to tweak some things that
they did. I think they made a couple of mistakes
last year in the game plan against Alabama and the
SEC Championship, But I expect them to have a just
tremendous game plan here to defend Milroe. What is the
best at running and deep balls. You got to take

(37:25):
away both of those, and I just Kirby in this spot,
it's just a smash spot. He has all the motivation
in the world. George is Usually over the past four years,
they're not They're not usually going into a spot where
they have the psychological edge right Like usually they're the
favorite and teams have to like every other team is
building themselves up and they're supposed to win. Here, it's

(37:46):
like your two point underdog on the road against Alabama.
He lost them the SEC championship. They said, you quit.
Your last outing, wasn't that great. All Perby has everything
he needs to work with here, so I think it'll
be a one. But I think the BAMA offensive line
and BAMA corners that's the two weakest areas in this game,

(38:07):
and I think Georgia will exploit both and ultimately win.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
One more college game. That jumped out is I wasn't
planning on watching much of this game last week, but
it was hard not to kind of fall into it. Obviously,
the ending was insane and Boulder. I don't know where
you stand on this guy, but Pat Shermer has to
be one of, if not the worst offensive coordinators right
now in pro college. I mean, he's running four or
five wide when his offensive line can't block a soul

(38:32):
and thank god sha Door as an athlete and can
fucking scramble for his life. But it's like, bro, just
run a couple of easy routes protect them a little bit.
You got athletes everywhere, but plus fourteen I understand long travel.
You know UCF, I'm sure you got some stats. Obviously
it's a good running team, but that seems like a

(38:53):
lot of points. We've talked about this before with Colorado.
They can just score now, who knows coming off an
emotional win like that, or they a little flat, But
that number jumped out to me and I I think
I'm gonna put some money on plus fourteen.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I have no feel on it. I will say, I
think it's I.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Want to do. I don't think Central Florida is any good.
They barely beat TCUs terrible.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, the biggest weakness on UCF is their secondary. They
have their their starting safety has been hurt. They have
a East Tennessee State a UA B and another lower
level transfer that that are playing in their secondary. You know,
they have one decent corner, but their secondary is very vulnerable.
Hoover is a good quarterback. TCU has good weapons, but

(39:35):
they threw all over them and UCF had to come back.
So that's the path here for Colorado. Skylard is not
going to get any stops against kJ Jefferson. The UCF
backfield is tremendous. You want to watch a really good
back r. J. Harvey, one of the best in the
country for UCF, and their their depth with Richardson and
Penny Boone Toledo transfer, they have backs for days. Jefferson

(39:57):
can run and then they'll hit you over the top.
They have some good receivers too. It's hard for me
to see Colorado getting many stops here, So like what
how I end up? How I see this playing out
is UF is gonna be able to just get have
so many third and manageables, like everything's going to be
easy for them. And then uc has a bad secondary,
so Coward doesn't be able to throw in them a bit.

(40:18):
But they have a UCF has a good front and
you know they have some other power forward transfers that
they have a really good defensive line. They're gonna be
able to create some negative plays Like Shadori. The offensive
line is not good and so he's gonna be under
fire and then sometimes he just holds the ball too long,
so there's gonna be some negative plays that are going
to probably kill too many drives of Colorado. It is

(40:41):
a bad spot for Colorado. Like they come off a
miracle win on a hail Mary, then in overtime you
got to travel us off. But bye, You're going to
the Bounce House, one of the toughest places to play
in college football. It's going to be ninety percent humidity,
it's gonna be ninety degrees. It's tough all the Yeah,
you tuck me out of it. I mean, I will

(41:01):
say if you want to bet at like live or
because the one thing working, I don't like fading Colorado
when they're a big dog and they've been really good
as underdogs because they will they will throw it with
Shador until the very end. So they've backdoored a number
of these games, like or you go back to last year,

(41:22):
they were down like twenty four, twenty eight, and they'll
come back and lose by like ten fourteen a lot,
so they could get the back door so easily here
like UC's up twenty one twenty four late, then they're
going to start to go conservative. Gus does keep his
foot on the gas sometimes in these spots, which could
hurt you. But Colorado, you know, if they get down,
like if you cef gets the ball goes right down

(41:44):
the field and then that number gets juiced up live.
You can look at Colorado then or at the half
for the second half if they're down like two touchdowns,
because they're not going to stop throwing and they're not
going to stop there.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
They're not.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
DeAnda just doesn't pay in if they're down, no matter
how much they're down. So the back door could be
wide open in this game.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Okay, let's just dive into the NFL. The l A.
Rams and Sean McVay had had a moment on Sunday
against an epic meltdown by Kyle the defense, the special
teams and Ronnie Bell's inability to catch, and they're going
on the road to Chicago. They're an underdog. Obviously, they're
still It's not like Puka and Cooper are walking back

(42:36):
through that door. So they are still undermanned in terms
of their weapons. This thing's pretty simple to me. Chicago
looks like one of the poorest coach teams in the league.
I just saw a headline before we jumped on that
DeAndre Swift probably getting benched. He has not been good
for them. Their offensive line has been horrendous, you know, Caleb,
like most young players beside Jayden Daniel, has been up

(42:57):
and down. But I I just think the logic I'm
taking to this is quarterback advantage, Rams coach clearly advantaged Rams.
Now I get emotional win like that. You come down
a little bit kind of a sleepy ten am start.
You know you're traveling not quite across the country, but
pretty far if you're in LA. But I'm just I'm

(43:21):
hammering the Rams in this one. I got. I look
this morning plus three on Draftkinks, you fade and follow
in that.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
I'm neutral, so neither fade or foul. I can tell
you that there's the line was two and a half.
There was some really sharp money on the Bears at three.
There's sharp money on the Rams. I was looking at
the Bears this week. Just this Rams team is so hurt.
You got to go back to like they got. They
were dominated by the forty nine ers most of that game,
and they just had a miraculous comeback late, even you know,

(43:52):
in a trailing state, and Stafford racked up all those
yards like they still got at game by like one
hundred and twenty yards one and a half yards per play,
and San frem was with out like four starter, four
key starters on offense. So the defense is really bad
and injured. The offensive line is not good and injured.
They don't have Nicole, they don't have Cup. Think about

(44:13):
two weeks ago when when they went to Arizona, this
smash unit and they got destroyed by the Cardinals. So
I was looking to get the Bears here at a
cheap price. At three, I can't do it. I will
say the best that the unit that I trust the
most is broy the Bears defense. Bears defense have been good.

(44:34):
Their defensive line has actually been really good, even outside
the sweat. But you nailed the key point which would
would scares me off, which would I would never lay
three because of the coaching mismatch is the biggest coach
coaching mismatch of the weekend. And I mean you saw
McVeigh last week and didn't have his weapons. He went
two tight ends too tight end heavy, never did that

(44:55):
in the past, so and it worked and and enable
him to steal that game. It's going to be a
theme for the Bears a lot this year. We'll see
if Caleb starts to improved. But they're in a division
with some of the best staffs in the NFL. The Floor,
it's an outstanding coach. You have you know O'Connell and Floores,

(45:17):
one of the best coach defensive coordinator tandems in the NFL.
And then you have Detroit Dan Campbell's all he does
is cover. You have one of the best offensive coordinators
in the NFL as well, and the Bears staff is
just very underwhelming. It's tough in that division and in
this particular matchup. So yeah, taking a fuel goal against

(45:40):
the rookie quarterback, against this struggling offense that can't really
run the ball, and like, that's what you can do
against his Rams team, and the Bears just haven't been
able to do it to even to help out Caleb
at all. So taking the three just knowing that you
have the much better coach. I don't hate it, but
I'm not personally following.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
You know, I wanted to dive into Saints Atlanta, but
I don't. I'm not confident in taking the Saints as dog.
The Atlanta makes me nervous, so I stayed away from that.
I know everyone they're owing three, like the Titans and
the Jags, but the Bengals definitely showed way more life
the other night that their defense was atrocious. I mean,
they can't cover me or you. Their head coach does

(46:21):
refuse to stick with the run just to slow down
the game a little bit when it's off, when his
defense can't stop anybody. So it's like, yeah, you can
score fast, but you're behind right now and you can't
stop anybody. So Zach Taylor, I think from a passing standpoint,
is like one of the highest in the league in
terms of percentage of attempts and which in theory makes sense.

(46:42):
He's got Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, now Higgins is back,
but in terms of the way his defense was playing,
that individual game probably needs to change. Now. Is Andy
Dalton gonna look like Joe Montana again? Probably not. I
mean that to me feels. I'm sure you've got stats
on this interim head coach, backup quarterback, which we talked
about last week. You like them in certain spots, especially
that first game. Obviously, if this team is going to

(47:06):
survive this year and have a chance of the playoffs,
like you're not gonna start zero and four and we're
gonna look up and you're gonna be nine to eight.
So this is must win territory at Carolina. Feels a
little bit like a lot of points for a team
that's owing three. But I'm hammering the Bengals here four
and a half favor fall.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I'll follow that. That's that's the side idlean I.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
The feeling got feeling got hurt last week too, right,
he's out.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah, the fealing is out. That's kind of like the
security blanket. I mean you off the have This office
is much better. I mean Bryce Young was which unflaiable, unplayable,
and so Dalton brings some juice to that offense. Dealens
lost Dealen's lost does hurt. They also lost their starting safety.
The defense is bad. It's like ever was a good
Carolina's Yeah, Carolina they have since he's too We'll get

(47:52):
to that in a sect. But Carolina can't stop anyone.
They lost their best defensive lineman. They're now down a
stafety corners on. I like it. They don't. They don't
have much, so they're just trying to prevent exposed to play.
It's they can't stop the run. It's the worst rundee
in the NFL. They can't stop any passes like efficient
passing attacks like Borrow's gonna card them up. And they
can't get any pressure. There's a team that gets like

(48:13):
they have like three pressures on the year. So I
don't know how they get any stops in this game, Like,
I just don't see it. So on the other end,
since he's biggest problem right now and we'll see who
plays is they don't have a defensive line. They lost
reader in the offseason. They have they were without like
five guys last week the defensive line, and Washington was

(48:33):
able to just run it, run it, run it, and
then set up easy passes. Carolina can't really run it.
They also might have an offensive line injury at guard,
which is actually big because their offensive line has been
one of the most improved units in the NFL this year.
They signed two really good guards move corporate to center,
and they've they're like number one and interior run blocking.

(48:54):
It's one of the reasons I like them this year.
But if they're if he's if their guard Lewis is out,
they go to this kid's who's NC stake? It is unplayable.
Last year, he was as bad as you could ever
be as a guard. But so, but Kalla is not
really a great running team, right, They're not going to
really take advantage of the Bengals in that aspect. So

(49:15):
at the end of the day, since he should be
able to get a few more stops, and I just
don't see how this Panthers team stops the Bengals at all,
especially with Haagan's back.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Now, that Carolina team that we saw last week with
Andy Dalton was the team you were gambling on the
first two weeks. That's what you were looking for.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah, I did bet on them again, so I've got
some of my money back. But definitely, yeah, I took
the seven. As soon as I got announced that Dalton
was out, I was done with them. I wrote them off.
I said, I can't play Young's not going to improve.
I thought he would at least not get worse than
he did. So, yeah, I won't be betting the Panthers

(49:59):
this week.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
But I mean it has to be one of the
last week. It has to be one of the great
statistical changes week to week in the history of the league.
For what they were getting out of Bryce to what
they got in that one game at Andy Dalton, I mean,
you had three touchdowns the first half.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Three touchdows the first half the Panthers had. Bryce Young
had two touchdowns in his previous four games combined, and
he had three in the first half. Dalton also is
the only quarterback this season to throw for three hundred
yards and three touchdown passes in a game, and he

(50:34):
was sitting behind Bryce Young. So yeah, they I mean
the Panthers had scored like twenty total points in their
previous four games combined.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
They hadn't had a lead in ten games. Yeah right,
never less.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Quorder once in their previous twenty games once and they
go out there and win by margin. So yeah, definitely
one of the wilder results of last week.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Okay, this game is pretty fun on paper. Jaden obviously
was pretty incredible the other night, and Arizona's fun. Watch.
My logic on this is pretty simple. Regardless where this
game was being played. Both these defenses are pretty atrocious.
Both these offenses should be able to move the ball

(51:21):
pretty easily, and if these quarterbacks are playing well, could
be a lot of points scored. When I looked and
saw Washington plus three and a half I would do
the same if Arizona was at Washington they were getting
three and a half. Whoever is getting over a field
goal in this matchup is just assuming both the quarterbacks
are healthy. Is an auto hammer for me? Fad or

(51:42):
follow uh.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I'm gonna semi fade. I want a bad Arizona here,
but I need I can't lay three and a half,
so I agree with your logic there. I need a
cheaper price.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
So I'm hoping if exactly there's a big difference to
me three and a half and like two and a half,
I wouldn't be as confident you're giving me over afield
goal could be points galore. It also could be classic
letdown spot. Everyone's you know, on their knees slurp in Washington.
All of a sudden, you know they're down seventeen to
nothing at halftime. Could happen. I'm prepared for that.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Historically, teams in this spot have not fared well. You
pull off an upset as a touchdown plus underdog short
week across the country, across the time zones, for your
second straight road game. It's not a great spot and
it's not a great matchup. They Washington's second I mean, Washington.
Both these defenses are bad. Washington's defense is worse. I

(52:34):
mean it's bad bad. Lost in that game is that
since he also didn't punt, so the first first game
in eighty five years, but there was no punts or turnovers.
The you know what Washington does is they don't They
can't cover anyone. They play a ton of zone. Kyler
Murray destroy zones, destroys. You want to play man against
Kyler and then he can struggle a bit. So it's

(52:57):
a good matchup for Arizona. I think it's a good spot.
You know, if they didn't if Washington doesn't pull off
that upset, this line is like five. So I just
wanted to come down enough to field goal or below
where I'd play it. But your logic is fine to
me and taking the three and a half with Washington,

(53:18):
But it's just not a great matchup, not a great spot,
and I don't think that this Look, the Arizona defense
has actually been a little fisier than I thought it
would be. This year. They I mean, look, it was
the brands were so banged up, but they still kept
the McVeigh offense completely in check last year. Last week
they shut out the Lions in the second half. And

(53:39):
they have a really good run game, really good offensive line,
so their run the's actually been like little below league average,
that's about it. So they might be able to hang here.
That's what we have to do against Washington. You have
to slot on the run game. It's like a horizontal
air rate attack that's based on the run. Both these
quarterbacks are going to use their legs. I just think
Arizona can in this spot, can get maybe one or

(54:01):
two more stops, but I can't like three and a half.
I need the field goaler less. But I don't hate
your logic.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
If John Harbaugh retired tomorrow and Da Costa announced that
he was, they were both available and hiring the combination
of Zach Taylor and his brother Press Taylor, what would
be your reaction.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I'd have to go shopping for a new hat.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I mean, how terrible. I mean, do you do you
think I get asked about Zach Taylor a lot? You know,
he seems like a nice guy. You know, obviously had
some big moments in his career, but it does feel like,
you know, little over his head now that the talent
is a little more neutralized. If he lost some guys
on defense. Clearly they one underrated part about him right

(54:47):
was defensively. They were pretty loaded. A couple of years ago,
they were pretty good on defense, and obviously they were
healthy and young on offense. Now their defense is clearly
nowhere near the same. Obviously some unlucky injuries, but even
their secondary losing you know, Bates, who's a fucking stud.
I mean, I think we've almost learned how good he is,
not just early this season but last year. Like he's

(55:08):
one of the better dbs in the league, corner or safety.
So that's a massive loss. But it does feel like
it's like, is he gonna get fired at the end
of the year if they go seven wins.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
It's it's possible. Uh, It's not been pretty for the
tailor Tree to start the year unless you're Taylor Swift
and then in your Chiefs fan you get you get
all the calls. But the tailor Zach Taylor Tree, you
have Zach Who's who are the only three teams this year?
The Bengals coach by Zach Taylor, the Titans coach by

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his offensive coordinator the past five years, and the Jaguars
his brothers. The offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I would take Brian Callahan the unknown out of all
three of them. I think, yeah, it's especially if this
dad comes with them.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Yeah, I mean that's just that's just been lepis, Like,
what else are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, that's not his fault. He inherited that, that guy.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Yeah, it was funny because I was looking at I
was digging into this Kentucky Old Miss game this weekend
and then the last time those two teams played, Oh
my back, I was watching some of it. It was
in twenty twenty twenty two. Kentucky was out, was watching
that game in the top ten. Lebis had like two
or three fumbles in the fourth quarter that just cost
him the game, And I was like, wow, this looks familiar.

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But yeah, it's possible. I mean, you can't you can't
waste borrow right now. So this is the this And
if you lose at the Panthers now and go to own.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Four, yeah they'd be done.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
The chatter is just gonna go. You just have a
whole year, the whole season of like get this guy
out of here, and the season's over. Like it owned
four you're done, Like oh and three, you're close to done.
Like one of the last one hundred and twenty nine
teams since two thousand has made the playoffs that started

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ohing three. But you have one extra team in the playoffs.
Now you have an extra game. They do have a
last play schedule. You're not completely dead at Like the
Packers last year were one in five, two and five,
and they were like a playaway from going.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I know they were like three and six or was
that the Rams.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
No, that was the Packers. They were all for ye
two and five, I think three and six, and they
were like a couple of plays away from the NFC
championship game. So you're not they're not completely dead, but
it was this game you're dead. And then you're like,
you you've lost in the first four weeks to the Panthers,
the Patriots, and the Commanders, Like that's You're the benefit

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of finishing lasts last year. You get your last play
schedule of your first four games, you get the pace
the Panthers, the Commanders, and the Patriots, and you lose
all three.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
But before we get into your favorite bed of the week,
which I don't blame you, I think I'm with you,
there is a game that kind of jumped out to
me that I don't really know what to do, but
it's pretty interesting. You know, Indy showed some life last week. Now,
granted they were playing the Bears, but they definitely played
way harder. Their quarterback is a massive roller coaster ride.

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This spot at home for Tomlin as a favorite. Like,
if you just play the odds, right, if you go
three and one in every essentially quarter of the year,
you end up with twelve wins. So if the Steelers
just were to maintain that, they'd be a twelve win team,
which I didn't expect to happen. So obviously you start

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three and oh, you're in a fucking great position you
win this game. I mean they you start four and oh,
it's pretty difficult to not like minimum when you have
a lot of talent like they do, be like an
eleven win team, right, Is it just gonna be that simple?
Are we going to look up in the Steelers are
just gonna be like eight too?

Speaker 4 (59:01):
I mean, it could happen. They would be completely fraudulent.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
What a couple of you like the Colts in this
spot a little bit.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I got to see who plays for them, Like their
defense is so banged up and their defense is already bad,
like and their best player Buckner's on IR. Quitty Pey
might not play ebucom their other starting d end is
on IR. Their other best player Kenny Moore than Nickel.
He might not play. Their best corner, Juju Brents is
on IR. Your your guy Womack, Thatito kid, he was

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on the forty nine ers roster. I think he's like
their best, top terrible. He's their top corner right now,
their number one corner. They got no one left on
that defense. So now if you have a bad defense
and no one left, this is like an offense that
you'd want to face.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
You're not playing the Bills here.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yeah, it's not a great offense. And I do think
Indy should be able to run here against Pittsburgh like
they played last year last December, even without Jonathan Taylor,
they and minshe was playing. They won thirty to thirteen.
They for like one hundred and seventy yards. And if
you look at Pittsburgh, there was a year what was
it two thousand, man, I want to say, yeah, it

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was twenty twenty. It was the COVID year at Pittsburgh
started ten and oh eleven and oh oh, it was
so fraudulent. They everyone was hurt against them. They win
every close game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
It was the year the Browns beat him in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Rolled him in the playoffs. They dropped. They dropped like
five in a row to end of the year, and
then got destroyed in the playoffs. So yeah, I mean,
if you look at what this team's done smart. They
beat Atlanta and the opener, it was Kirk Cousins first
game back from injury, didn't play in the preseason quarterbacks,
and they ran the most predictable offense. They were. They
were literally telegraphing what they were doing and pistol they
were running it and shot on their passing and he
never went under center. They didn't use any play action.

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I don't know what Atlanta was doing that week. I
think it was just because Cousins was first coming back,
so that wain. You got to put a little assis
next to it. Then you played bow knicks in it's
like second start, and then you played the charges. Last
the games ten to ten quarterbacks, quarterback, it's hurt and
both tackles, so and then they won from there. So

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they've been extremely fortunate. Now Field has played better. He's
madness the game. He's not making mistakes, they're lying to run,
they're not really running it well. But their their defense
is really good. They don't have high Smith. They lost
high Smith's injury, which which hurts a bit. But this
is like the first The Broncos can't really run it.
I don't know, Atlanta wasn't really I don't know what
they were doing, and the Chargers had the injuries to

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their quarterback and tackles. So yeah, the problem is just
Richardson is so inaccurate. So like this probably comes down
to does he hit like does he hit a few
explosive plays like he's gonna chuck the ball down the field?
Does he connect on a couple? It's probably all you
need to win this game, like seventeen points, twenty points.

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I don't mean unless the whole I mean the whole
cold Steak could be out and they're already bad. So
maybe the Steelers can score here. But there's a lot
of good teaser options, like do you want to tease
the Colts up over a touchdown with like the Jets
down to minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
I'm gonna be playing that myself. I would lean the
Colts but I just got to see who plays on
that defense, Like, I can't have I can't have their
secondary be Dallas Flowers and Womack. Like I know that
the Steelers don't throw it, but that's as bad as
I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Okay, Sunday Night football. This this game's sweet Bills at
the Ravens. You know, the Ravens get their mojo back
a little bit, run the ball right down the Cowboys throat.
That Raiders game really hurts right now. I mean this
this would be prime spot, but losing that Raiders game,
I mean still makes this kind of must win for

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the Ravens, right. I mean, this is a little bit
gravy for the Bills, But I think the argument is like,
who are the Bills beat a Dolphins team that I'm sorry,
even if Toole was playing, was coming back to Earth
this year? Obviously, the fucking suck. And they opened up
against Arizona who's probably not gonna be above five hundred,
so you know, eventually, Now, I think the Bills, I

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think their next three games are the Ravens, the Texans,
and the Jets, So you could argue that in that
three game stretch for them that you know, kind of
view themselves as a number one seed type team. You'd
have to go two and one in those spots. Pretty sure.
They're all three road games, right, So, I mean this
is a tough little spot for the Bills. So you

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could say, well, it's more important for the Ravens to
win it. But when you look at their schedule, you're like, well,
you probably want to. If you were gonna pick two
of three to win, you'd want to beat the Ravens.
You want to beat the Jets, right, That is the
way I would view it, But you definitely would if
you're gonna win two of the three games, you would
circle the Jets would be definitely one. And then maybe

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you could make an argument for either two because you
can see either two in the playoffs. But I don't know.
It's a big spot for the Ravens. The Bill look good, now,
what say you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
This is my favorite bet of the weekend, the Ravens
ending under three. I played some money line. I have
a Ravens hat on. I'm a Ravens fan, but they
have over twenty years, they have been my most profitable
team betting on or against. Like, if you know your
team better than anybody, if you're willing to bet against them,
you can have success, like a lot of success betting.

(01:04:27):
You know the injuries, you know the impact. Odds makers
are setting lines for every single game, like if you
can get over like the boy you know your self
biases that you have because most people don't want to
bet against their team, right, so most people are just
betting on their team and don't want to fade them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
What do you do when you put a lot of
money on the Niners? You get them at six and
a half and they're up fourteen to nothing, and then
it feels like they're gonna win by twenty five and
then they you blow it. You want to kill everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Double whammy team lose and lose bet. Yeah, that's it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
You're right, I mean you just the spots. Yeah no.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
In the Ravens. The Ravens, all they do is blow leads.
But there's a ton of things I like about this.
I don't even know where to start one. So the
narrative on the Ravens blowing leads they have in the past,
and their secondary has been an issue. This year they
have done that again, but it's been penalties has been
the main driver. I mean, you know, I was watching
that Cowboys game. Some of the penalties that were called,

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the roughing the passers, the pis like I couldn't even
see him. The Raiders game, there's a third and seventeen
PI in the end zone that everyone is like, what
is that call? You know all the TV rust would
give it moves an acidon call changed the whole game.
There was a number of other penalties in that game
that just let the Raiders come back on the season.
They're negative, They're negative seventeen penalties and two hundred and

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ten yards. Hardball came out this week. Wow did it
in a professional way, said like, you know, we got
to be we got to clean some of the penalties up.
But also we're going to send some stuff to Lead
for them to look at and give us some feedback.
Don't be surprised. It's just natural regression. But if the
Ravens also get some calls this week. Matchup wise, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Bills, So do you think legitimately they've been getting screwed
a little bit? Like yes, outrageously rage.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
And that discrepancy is an out layer, to say the
least from a matchup perspective. The Bills haven't are extremely
vulnerable in the middle of their defense and an intermediary range.
Their safeties are bad. They don't have any linebackers left.
They lost Bernard the Green Dot, they lost already lost Milano.

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They've played teams that haven't been able to capitalize. Arizona
move the ball in them and scored. I mean Arizona
couple they did in Buffalo. The Dolphins, you know, they
lost to where they refuse to throw in the middle field.
They don't know that they don't tight ends. And then
the Jags don't have Evan Ingram, which was a huge loss.
And then Lawrence was just lost the entire game. And
that blowout win by the way against like they beat Tua,

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goes down for the Dolph. They beat the Cardinals at home,
and then they beat the Jags. The Jags play nothing
but man coverage. They're the highest rate in the league
by far. They're running like sixty seven percent of time.
I thought that they would change it up this game
because they had no corners left, none, and they lost
their Savage didn't play in the slot. Their best corner
is already on ir there Jerryon Jones, the rookie and

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there he gets hurt. On the first play of the game.
They called up a kid on the practice squad to
come in and play corner. They were playing man the
whole game. You do not play man against Josh Allen,
especially if you have bad corners, because number one, you're
not covering it. Number two, he just runs it on
you whenever he wants. You got to play zone. Ravens
will play a ton of zone here. This will be
the best defense.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
By a bag.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
The two's so big. It's hard to explain that the
Bills have face this year and the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Cardinal having a good middle linebacker or two if whenever
you need to spy the quarterback helps a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Yep and look their defensive coordinator was the Ravens new
defensive coordinator was on the staff last Yearner McDonald. Also
on the staff was Anthony Weaver is now in Miami.
Sure they've talked get a little more intel because the
Bills are the Miami played in Buffalo. But the Ravens

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are built to attack over the middle of the field,
and the Bills run to he hasn't been great. Ravens
should be able to run it here and they can
attack over the middlefield Lamar has been great in the
intermedity arrange. They have two really good tight ends. This
is just attack attack attack. Bills play too high zone.
McDermott is a Jim Johnson guy, very zone heavy. Yeah,

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wants to prevent the explosive play Lamar's best defenses that
he faces. If you look at all his advanced metrics
against two high and against zone, you can't zone Lamar.
You want to play man against him, similar to Kyler.
And this is also a smash Lamar's spot. Like Lamar is,
he's kind of like Mahomes when he's under when he's

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an underdog or a favorite of a field a field
goal or less to twenty four and seven against spread
smash hardball spot. It's like kind of close to a
must win one and two at home in primetime playing
an undefeated team. I've seen this story a million times
against old Patriots teams, against Chiefs teams. It's just the game.

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The Ravens find a way to win. Generally, not saying
the Bills can't win. I just I just think this
spreadshv three, and I like the Ravens here, and I
think it's a really good matchup on the DEFENSI side
the wall, they're going to play zone. Their secondary can
match up with who the Bills have out there, and yeah,
just look, the Ravens are a blown PI call. And

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there's the perception right now is off because the Bills
have been blowing out everybody. And by the way, short
week for the Bills now going on the road. They
played Monday night teams off of wins of thirty five plus.
If you're into trends, forty one percent historically against the spread,
because usually get a who wants to fade the team
that just won by forty right, they look so good

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it's usually can get a little bit of value faded
them the next week. Short week here, I only have
I have one main concern is that the Ravens had
four got four of their starting offensive lineman on the
injury for yesterday. I'm like waiting on updates right now.
I think they're all gonna play like they've all finished
the game against Dallas, So I think that they were
just held out more as a rest day. I mean,
they did get injury designations, but obviously if they're missing

(01:10:20):
like two or three offensive linemen, that would be bad.
But the Ravens are built to attack where the Bills
are hurt right now and where they're weak at safety.
Lamar is great against own and two. I so like
this is a really good matchup on both sides of
the ball. Buffalo wants to be like a run first offense.
Raven has been the best run day in the NFL

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this year, so I really like the matchup. Tucker's looks washed.
I think he's just father times undefeated. Hopefully he doesn't
miss some kicks, he says him and Harball said that
they found there's a there was a technique technique issue
that they fix, so we'll see. But this he hasn't
been good from distance in a while. You could see

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the signs last year from fifty plus so but missing
like the forty seven yard I was shocked. I was like,
does the Raves haven't been spoiled at the kicker position? Now?
It seems like everyone else and no one else misses kicks. Now,
I'm I'm the guy who has to watch a kicker
that missus kicks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
But that is weird. It's like it's like watching an
old golfer. It's like, what is wrong with Phil Nicholson?
And it's just it just goes and it's just never
the same. Yeah, so it happened to vinit, Terry, didn't it?
I mean just fell off a cliff.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Yeah yeah, Vinitary. I mean couldn't even rely on them
to make an extra point. So it's sad. Tuck has
been one of my favorite players. But I like the spot.
I like the matchup on both sides of the ball.
I think this is the peak of the Bills market.
You're hearing like and rightfully so the Bills have been great,
but you're hearing Josh Allen lock MVP. You're hearing Bills
are winning the super Bowl, Bills are the best team
in the NFL. These are usually signs that this is

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when you want to fade them. And and I like
the match up. As long as the Rings offensive line
is south one of my biggest questions coming into the year.
They did it together last week. They finally just went
with five guys. They've been like rotating guys. I know
the Cowboys rundy is weak, but I did expect improvement
as the year went on. So as long as they're healthy,
I think the Rains should be able to move it
and then throw over that interminiory middle of the field.

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No one has tried to attack that against Buffalo yet.
And you got to play zone against Josh Allen, which
the Ravens will do here. So there's a lot of
things I like about this matchup in the spot. So yeah,
the raven If the Ravens were three and oh, which
usually could be, they don't call that PI on DeVonta Adams,
the Ravens don't shank a punt, they don't get like
twelve penalties in that game, or the Cowboys don't get
a bunch of bountys. The coby is about twenty eight

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six in that game in the fourth quarter. The game
was a blowout, Like they dominate Dallas in Dallas and
there are a toe what if likely's toe is in
and then they win at Kansas City, And this team
is sitting three and oh with wins at Kansas City
in Dallas, there are three three and a half point
favorite here, So yeah, I like the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Ravens before I get you out of here. You know,
Monday night we got another doubleheader Miami, Tennessee. You could
easily just not televise that game. But the the Seattle
Lions game is pretty good. The number that jumped out
to me is like minus three and a half. It

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feels like if you told me what's the line on
this before the season, I would have guessed like five
and a half, six I got. I like the Lions
in this spot. I know Seattle's been feisty, obviously their
coach is solid, but on the road place is gonna
be going bananas, gino. I feel like I like the
Lions in this game, like twenty five to fifteen or something.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
I bet we're we're against each other. A lot one
of us is gonna have a good weekend this weekend.
I bet the Seahawks, but I bet him at four
and a half. I I now here's the argument that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Will do you think Seattle's good?

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
I'm just a huge McDonald guy. I saw what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
And when I obviously they're good. They're three, But I mean, like,
is this real? Like to me? Minnesota to me? Is real?
Is Seattle real? I mean we're gonna find out the
next couple of weeks because they played the Lions and
the Niners, so.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Yeah, they I mean I I I have I bet
them over with their win.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Total, which is what like eight and a half now, it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Was uh seven and a half surprising.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
That's that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
So and I actually got some seven too. But yeah,
I mean the argument against Seattle is they played Bo
Nicks in his first ever start the Patriots and whatever
the Dolphins. With the Dolphins were down this dude, I Tim.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Boyle, Tim Boyle lost both their.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Tackles in that game. I don't know how Tim Boyle
keeps getting work.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
I think I didn't have the sound. I didn't have
the sound on. Yeah, we were you brought him up.
In relation to Malik Willis like getting random guys to start.
I didn't have the sound on in that game Seattle Miami.
Did Scadder get bench or he get.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
In he got hurt. He had like I think he
like a punctured lung maybe or something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yeah, I saw him lying there. I couldn't tell if
they just like he could have gone back and they
just took Yeah, both.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Of his tackles went down. He was just getting hummel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
They saw.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
I thought Tyreek might just run out of the stadium
and just run.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
It was embarrassing. So yeah, but I mean, the Seattle
defense is under McDonald, it's gonna be good every week.
There's something wrong with the Lions offense, and I can't
put my finger on it. Golf has been bad, and
the play calling just isn't as good, and they have
a really good offensive quarter. I don't know what's wrong
with the with their offense. I mean, they weren't even

(01:15:40):
great against the re Like the Rams defense is not
good at all. These injuries, and like they needed overtime
to beat them at home. Beat the Rams at home.
I know Stafford was in his bag that night, but
just the offensive performance wasn't great for the Lions there.
And they don't they don't score. They don't score in
the second half against Arizona, and there's there arguably should

(01:16:01):
have been a pick six that Arizona got taken off
the board saved from the two very lucky. So there's
something wrong with Detroit's offense. And now they lost their
star center. One of the best centers in the league
is not going to play in Frank Ragnow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Has banged out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Laporte has banged up too. If Ragnow was playing, I
would be concerned. I got to get the Seahawks injury
report because Murphy and Leonard Williams got hurt last week.
So like, does Detroit just line up and run it
on them. So I want to stick to Seattle has
some defensive line injuries worth monitoring. But McDonald when he've

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played golf last year, he turned him into an absolute pumpkin,
which golf can do in certain games. But when the
Ravens played the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Lions, didn't they win that game like forty to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Thirty five to nothing at the half? I think they
won thirty eight six.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
And it was a it was a massacre. I remember
watching that Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Yeah. Uh, that was one of my favorite bets of
last year. I think the Ravens were only like the
Lions came into that game. It was that was a
classic gardball spot. The Lions. I think we're five and
oh or five and one, and the Ravens somehow they
were only two minus two and a half at home
against the Lions. We're getting all this love. There's one
of those Raven spots a year. I think that this
is the one against the Bills this week. But yeah,

(01:17:21):
I mean the line secondary is still not figured out.
They got more talented, but they're still having issues. And
you know, it's been good. They have good receivers. We'll
see if they do We'll see if their offensive line
don hold up like they've gotten to play the doll
Like I said, the Dolphins, the Broncos, the Patriots. Ken
Hutchinson rec Havoc on this game he's been great, But

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I mean then, I mean Hutchinson's really good. I mean,
look that the Lion's only scoring sixteen points against the Bucks, who.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Were down like it's it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
So their offense is I don't know exactly what it is.
The Lions also lost Davenport on the other side to Hutchinson.
That's not immterial one of the hems like their other
edge rusher. So yeah, I just I took the four
and a half. I like mcdu McDonald ver's golf matchup.
The Lions offens just isn't right right now, and I

(01:18:13):
think Geno can have success if it all is lying
on a lot like there's been injuries there, they haven't
really been tested. So yeah, that that's kind of the
wild card for me. The defensive line injuries for Seattle,
it's not a bad I made a big bet that
they concerned me. And then you're always gonna have Dan

(01:18:33):
Campbell fourth down variants as it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Goes for you or not. Leonard Williams and Murphy being
I mean, when those guys are healthy and going. I
mean I don't think we talk about Leonard Williams at all,
but that has been a pretty incredible move for them.
Like he's been good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Yeah, people don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
He's been really good. And obviously Murphy you know, could
have been a top ten pick somehow fell to them
at whatever sixteen or seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Yeah, they're both of those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
If Leonard william played for the Cowboys or the Niners
or the Rams or something, he would be talked about
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Yeah, it's it's uh, it's weird because Williams and Dexter
Lawrence played in New York and they don't. I don't
I feel like, in the New York market and they don't.
They don't get talked enough about nashally, I mean, Dexter
Lawrence is dominant and yeah, but that they The Seattle
defensive line in recent years has been bat so. Like

(01:19:26):
getting Williams and drafting Murphy I think was a good
first step for the staff that I really like. I've
also just liked the offense under Ryan Grubb, who I
really like, who we were talking about the Alabama game.
He was supposed to be at Alabama with the b
and uh McDonald poach left. So but the boar we

(01:19:51):
talked about really sharp guy. It was with Grubb McDonald,
really sharp guy. One of them pretty good signals there
that he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, grubs stuff. I mean grubs grubs big time. Uh well, Stucky,
I think we're not quite on the same page on
a lot of things. That Bama Georgia game is a
nice little precursor to the NFL weekend though, because that's
gonna feel that fucking place is gonna be going nuts.
A big spot from my guy to Boor and you
guy Kirby.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
So yeah, it's exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I'm hammering Vamma money line.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Ronald Slates haven't been great so far. No, but from
here on out they're like with conference but you're gonna
have like one or two of these games a week.
So Saturdays are about to get very exciting with Sundays
football weekends fall. It's in the air. We're we're officially.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
All the way back now, we're back and rolling. It's
just a one hundred and ten degrees outside my door.
But other than that, it feels like fall. Talk to
you this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
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