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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It is a Friday, well rested, ready
to fire away, Blazing five and a good one in
one hour, live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever
you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks
for making us part of your day. Jamac Julian Edelman
stops by blazing five in one hour. We kind of
told you what was gonna happen last night? It happened
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last night. And what's the fallout? One of the opinions,
what's going on with the Cowboys and the Giants last night?
I don't think it's terribly complicated, but don't have a theory.
I'll throw that to you in a second. Are you
ready to go on to Friday?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm fired up, feeling great about the weekend's game.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, you watch the game. Here's what I saw
I saw two things last night. Number one and I'll
get to this one in about five minutes. Giants are
really well coached. The Giants had no run game, a
bottom end quarterback, bottom third of the league, and we're
driving to win the game and dominated time of possession.
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That's coaching. And by the way, weren't plagued by turnovers
like the Cowboys. So I told you yesterday on the show,
Dallas go win ceedee lambs Gon look really good and
Dak's gonna be really solid. He was twenty two to
twenty seven. Cowboys will win and it will be nothing. No,
I mean it means nothing. Dak is twenty four and
four against the Giants in Washington, twenty four and four.
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That's it, twenty four to four, and Washington and New
York since Dak's been in Dallas win thirty eight percent
of their games. They're terrible. They're two of the doormats.
So Dak and Dallas US both have benefited greatly. And
Dak has benefited too. He's not getting that bag if
he's in the NFC North and he's facing the Packers
and he's facing the line not winning those games. But
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he's gotten rich good for him, Happy for him, don't
resent it. But Dak and Dallas have benefited greatly from
having two lamps in their division, and to his credit,
he's beaten them, I guess. But they don't be good teams.
They don't win big road games, big standalone national TV
games against the good teams. Now, for the record, Big
Ben and the Steelers had this for years with Cleveland
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and Cincinnati. They just before Burrow got there and Baker
got there, Pittsburgh owned Cleveland and Cincinnati. But Pittsburgh got
two Super Bowls out of it, so they were beating
the layups. You know, by the way, Brady had some
dormat Miami and the Jets in Buffalo for you. But
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Brady paid you off in the end. I'm not blaming
you if you have a couple of doormats in your
division for eight years, like Dak, Hasse Whitsburgh had it,
but you got the payoff. But what also happened with
Big Ben late, Oh, Burrows in the division now, Lamar's
in the division now, Hell, Baker's in the division now,
And at the end, Cincinnati and Cleveland weren't the laps,
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and suddenly the Steelers got really irrelevant. Really fast and
brag about never being below five hundred. That's their standard.
And the Cowboys standard is he we win twelve games
a year now kind of eight, and the four laps.
Pittsburgh started lowering their standard. Hey, we're never five hundred
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under five hundred, yeah, but you're irrelevant in January and
February like the Cowboys. But to Pittsburgh's credit, they did
get trophies out of those two laps for years. It
did help them get home field advantage when you go
four and oher every year against the lousy Bengals and
the lowsy Browns. But here's what's happening. But Cleveland briefly
got the right quarterback, Cincinnati got the right quarterback, and
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Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, and suddenly you get much less relevant.
So here's what's happening in the NFC East. Philadelphia just
needs the right coach, and even Sirianni with the right
coordinator got to a Super Bowl. So Philadelphia's got better
players than Dallas and they're a better organization. Washington's got
Jaden Daniels. Kid can spin it. Hey, who's he looked
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like Lamar Jackson? You know, asked big Ben about that.
So now you got Lamar Jackson clone in the division
and the New York Giants, and I'll get to this
in a second. They're just a quarterback away, that's all
they are. They got the coach. So Dallas, congrats on
the division titles. But but you have this advantage Brady
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took advantage of for years, the Jets being dysfunctional, the
Bills being dysfunctional, in Miami being dysfunctional, because it guaranteed
him five or six wins in the division. He gets the
number one seed home playoff games, and Big Ben, to
his credit, would beat Cleveland and beat Cincinnati, and he
would use that to get the seating in home field
advantage and he got Super Bowls out of it. Dallas
has had that just layups. Washington and the Giants have
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been layups. Jack's twenty four and four against them. It's
getting your home playoff games, and what are you doing
with it? Getting your doors blown off by Green Bay.
So this doesn't mean anything. They've been doing this for years.
And by the way, those those tough road games and
the better teams you don't beat. I looked at your
schedule this morning. Here they come at Pittsburgh, Detroit at
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San Francisco, Philadelphia Texans, even the at Atlanta games tough.
Those are games you don't win, tough road games. So
I don't begrudge you for getting a couple of layups
in your division. But Brady and Big Ben and the
Steelers took advantage of it. But what happened after a
while for Tom Brady He looked around and went, oh,
Josh Allen's in the division. Then Big Ben went, oh
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Lamar and Joe Burrow in the division. Jaden Daniels is
now coming to town. And if Jalen Hurts can get
who knows Shane Styke and may say I'm going back
to Philadelphia the way I had any Richardson looks. I'm
not begrudging anybody for taking advantage of opportunities. Generally, most
great quarterbacks and coaches. I mean, when Nick Saban was
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in the SEC, there were so many bad coaches. Then
Kirby Smart went over to Georgia, and now Lane Kiffin's
in there, and here comes Sarkin. Texas and Alabama didn't
have that road like they used to. Saban retires Kaylen
de Booren. The point being is Dallas has given you nothing,
having this like seven to eight year advantage where Washington
and New York have been garbage either winning the games
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as Pittsburgh did, as Brady did, but those guys gave
you something at the end, Dallas can't even win a
second playoff game less than didn't mean anything. Here's deck after.
We got to continue to be pros.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's not done. That's not done when you get a win.
And that's my point about we're not going to get
over excited or hopefully the guys won't listen to anything
that's being written now, good or bad. It's about focusing
on this process. We're able to get a wind and
puts us at two and two going into a long weekend,
but we've got to go on the road next week.
Gets a good Stellers team.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
All right now, I talk Giants, and yeah, I'm sure
New York media today is pounding on him, but listen
to this. Who had more first downs, the Giants, who
was better on third down? The Giants who had more
totally yards, The Giants who dominated time of possession, Giants
who had a third the penalties Giants. What I watched
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last night in New York was great coaching. They have
no run game. Devin Singletary got no Jews. Their on
line has one really high end player left tackle, they
have a bottom tier quarterback, and we're driving for the win.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Huh huh.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Hear me out. If you took a Josh Allen and
you put him on the Giants, let me ask you,
you would suddenly have this Devin singletariot running back Brian
Dable on your offensive side, a great left tackle, tremendous
defensive front, a wait, and one star weapon. That's Buffalo
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before they got James Cook. And yes, the Giants do
need to upgrade at running back. Get that in the fourth,
fifth round. The Buffalo Bills for years before James Cook
had all the elements. The bones are here For the
New York Giants, the bones are here, Dayball, a great
left tackle, excellent defensive front, one of the best defensive tackles,
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great edge rusher, star weapon, and an offensive coach. The
bones are here. The quarterback isn't. I mean hell, the
Giants and the Bills even play New York. Now you're saying, Colin, Colin, Colin,
Colin Kahn, You're not gonna get Josh Allen. No, you're not.
You're probably not gonna land Josh Allen. Next Year's got
four quarterbacks in the draft. First round. People like be
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a cam Ward, could be a Quinn Ewers could be
a sure Sanders could be the back kid at Georgia.
You got four, you always end up with about four
to five Riley Leonard Wigle second round, a lot of talent, whatever,
But the bones are here to the house. You think
I'm crazy? Right? Go look at Tampa before Brady? What
did they have one great weapon, excellent defensive front, offensive
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coach Bruce Arians, a playmaker on the outside Mike Evans.
The Giants have an excellent defensive line, a star receiver
who's only getting better, an excellent left tackle, and an
offensive coach. Tampa had Arians, a star weapon, a good
defensive front, and then they drafted to solve one great
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offensive lineman at tackle, Tristan Wirfs Houston Texans before they
got CJ. Stroud. What did the Houston Texans have a
great left tackle? Nico Collins just needed somebody to get
him the ball. They were fourth in takeaways in the NFL.
They had this the weapon, the left tackle, the defensive takeaways.
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So I don't buy this. Giants camp play. I'm watching
last night with Brian dabol dominate. It is almost unheard of.
Dominate time of possession with a bad quarterback and no
run game. And I will say this as I say,
you know, Daniel Jones doesn't very good. Here's what's amazing
is until the final drive, Daniel Jones was good on
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third down, no picks, dominates time of possession with no
run game, and is twenty nine for thirty seven. You
cannot do better than that with Daniel Jones before the
final drive when you're more desperate have to throw twenty
nine and thirty seven no picks. Decent on third down,
dominating time of possession with no run game. That's coaching.
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That's what coaching looks like. Bruce Arians needed a guy.
The Texans needed a quarterback. The bone to the house
are good. The Giants have the left tackle and the
weapon and the great defensive front and the offensive coach.
They got it. And there's four quarterbacks in the draft
and many of the bad teams don't need a quarterback.
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They just drafted one. You're gonna get one of them
the future for the Giants. I got the bones. I
got the big bones. The Cowboys I just got big contracts.
I'm gonna have to pay Micah Parsons, who once again
last night's either hurt or makes one or two splash
plays and I'm left thinking, not TJ. Watt, not Miles Garrett,
not Hutchison. Good, But I'm gonna have to pay him
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like he's great. So I my takeaway, you're looking at
that game last night, A Dallas beats him again, I
got big contracts. Don't love the ownership group, O line
ich left tackle, oh and a quarterback. I'm paying of fortune.
Here's Brian Dable on Daniel Jones after.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
For three games he's been locked in. He's played well,
he's seen the field, he's delivered the ball where he
needs to. You know, again, we had some opportunities to
continue drives today as well. So I'm proud of how
he's performed, how he's prepared. He's done a nice job
for us.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, I mean he's done the best he can do.
I mean he went to Duke. I know he's smart.
I think he works hard. It's sort of like that
art project your kid brings home that you put on
the refrigerator. I'm proud of him. At a Picasso, you
can be proud of. I mean, he works hard, he's
a good kid. I hope he does well. And day
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bowls squeezing every bit of juice out of that orange man.
He's squeezing every ounce of it out. And I was
really proud. I got emotional looking at that art. Every
time I opened up the fridge. My kids gave it
their best effort. It was not a monette. And that's
who's hoisting trophies. Kansas City has one, Buffalo has one,
Cincinnati has one. For years, New England had one. San
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Francisco with Montana had one, Denver had one with l Way.
You can be proud, appreciative A students Harvard is hoist
in the trophy. Doesn't mean you can't be proud if
you get into the state school. Dave Ball's doing everything
he can and this organization coach left tackle, defensive front weapon.
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That's all the structural foundational bone super Bowl teams have.
Houston was in way worse shape and they got coaching
quarterback right. Hell, the Giants have the coach. He's got
to get the dude a mac. I told you this
isn't even a neurogum day. This is just firing today
blazing five in forty five minutes. Julian Edelman stops by
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as well.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yeah you know who.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
How many sacks Michael Parsons has in the last three
weeks the same number as you and I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Zero.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's not even getting pressures like he used to last year.
I know people aren't gonna like this again. I'm not
signing him to a no.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No, no, there's an argument to be made. You watch TJ. Watt,
just trust your eyes. You watch TJ. Watt and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa? You watch Miles Garrett, whoa? You watch Nick Bosa,
But the difference between Nick Bosa and Joey Bosa. Joey
Bosa makes splash plays. Nick Bosa dominates games. Micah made
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a couple splash plays, lateral quickness against the better left tackles.
Last night he faced one. He'll beat him, He'll make
him look bad once or twice. Where is he? But
I'll throw this out there, Ceedee Lamb's an unbelievable player,
and you're not moving off dack Zach Martin's great, but
it's getting old. There's an argument Edge Rusher Micah would
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have massive apiece.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Can you get a haul for him?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And then else has to pay him.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Not Ye, This whole league is looking for edge rushers
outside of quarterback and left tackle. The argument is edge
rusher is either the second or third most important position.
I tend to think it's quarterback, left tackle, edge, and
then weapon. I'm just telling you go to Micah in
the playoffs against better left tackles. The Giants have a
very good left tackle, and everybody'll point to that one
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where he swooped in under it. Great play, Knights, that
one play is not TJ. Watt is wearing your arse
out for three and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Aiden Hutchison is a monster and Rex game plans. Micah's
just not doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
He's not that guy. He's athletic. I guarantee you there
are teams in this league that are close and just
need an edge rush.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And now Parsons is gonna have a game where he
has three and a half sackson and the see I
told you he's great. The consistency isn't there, Colin, especially
not in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
The numbers are The numbers are clear when he plays
San Francisco and Trent Williams, where and so again, Micah's
really good player, but I would argue his value is
greater than his significance in January. And that's the key.
They're a guy Hutchison now is one of these dudes, TJ. Watt,
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Miles Garrett, I mean, von Miller still makes play. They're
a handful of them where their talent and what they
disrupt is equal to what you have to pay him.
Mike is gonna get paid in the hutcheson space and
that's not what he is. He's a really good A
minus guy. He's not wrecking your game plan. The Giants
with Daniel Jones and no run game dominated time of possession,
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you ain't doing that with TJ. Watt on the edge.
You're just I mean, I guarantee you. When Harbaugh and
the Chargers go there and Justin Herbert's banged up, all
they talk about all week is TJ. Watt, Herbert's banged up.
We cannot let TJ. You have to literally change your
blocking schemes. And that's what Rashaun Slater, who's a good
left tackle, So I'm odd brought to smoke today.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
How about Cowboys hitting minus four and minus four nine again,
just like the order.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Huh, I didn't have that number.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
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the Hour. Julian Edelman stops by as well. So I
thought this was interesting. I'm not making definitive statements on it,
but it is interesting. We have said the one position
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in football that college football is furnishing the NFL with
an endless supply is wide receiver. Left tackles you get
about one great one a year. Edge rushers one or
two good ones a year. Elite defensive tackle one or
two a year. Wide receiver you get fifteen minimum in
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the league. Every year you can find guys. Look fifth round,
Puka Nakua amor on Saint Brown.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
You can go.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
You can go to the third, the fourth, the fifth,
ront Jennings, Juwan Jennings, San Francisco, sixth round. It is
the one position in football wide receiver. More kids want
to be wide receivers. It's where the money is at.
They're playing it. It's the best athlete often on the field.
I look up every year and there's another ten guys
at wide receiver, and I'm like, all they need is
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to go. Nico Collins just needed a quarterback. Dude was
special and so this is interesting. Yet what NFL position
makes the most noise is the biggest pain in the
butt wide receiver that ain't good for loud wide receivers.
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Interesting stat Patrick mahomes first three games without Tyreek Hill
look a lot like Josh Allen's first three games without
Stefan Diggs. I won't go through all the numbers for
the radio audience. It did not fase Mahomes or Josh
Allen whatsoever. So this is true when you get a
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star quarterback, any receiver, drama, move him out of the building,
demanding a contract a year early, move him out of
the building. Even Brock Purdy and he's not Mahomes aroulland
even brought Purdy, he doesn't have Deebo, Christian McCaffrey and
George Kittle, Juwan Jennings. I'm fine. It makes me wonder
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if San Francisco made a mistake going with Brandon Ayuk,
because once Kittle, Deebo, Christian and Jennings are all playing together,
why'd you pay twenty seven large a year, whatever you paid.
I'm just going to remind you Aaron Rodgers one super Bowl,
he didn't have a superstar receiver. Patrick Mahomes last two
didn't have a superstar receiver. The best receiver Tom Brady
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ever had easily was Randy Moss, no trophies. Drew Brees
won Super Bowl. Marquise Colston he had a receiver much
better later in his career, couldn't get to the Super Bowl.
Eli Manning Super Bowl one of them, it was Mario
Manningham and then the other one. The biggest catch was
by David Tyree. I am not saying receivers don't have value.
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I want a dude, but he can't be a diva
if the receiver, if the quarterback is special. Now, if
you have Tua Tyreek, Hill is necessary, if you have
Dak Ceedee, Lamb is necessary. If you have I mean,
I love Sam Darnold's and Kirk Cousins, but Justin Jefferson
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feels necessary. But I'm looking at San Francisco with Brandon
Aiyuk and Brock Purdy looks pretty damn good. And they've
got McCaffrey and Shanahan and Devo and Kittle and Jennings
and they just drafted two receivers. I'm just saying, Stefan
Diggs isn't even in Buffalo still and there, he doesn't
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even live there. They're still asking Josh Allen about it. Like,
the one position college is furnishing in the NFL at
an accelerated rate is receiver, and the one position where
you get the most noise in the NFL. Look at
the off season of San Francisco and Cincinnati and Dallas,
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they've all been a little disappointing. I know, Cowboy fans,
you love that win last night. All been a little disappointing.
Just something, just something to point out. If you earn
an industry and you have a position and you're making
a lot of noise, and that position is one that
college graduates are coming into your industry at an accelerated rate,
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you may want to you might want to chill out
a little bit. You may want to be more of
a team guy, not go scrub your social media because
things aren't working out the way you planned. But I'm
looking at all these wide receivers, I'm looking at this
kid from Florida State, Buffalo has that dude is a
ball or I'm looking at elite Neighbors. Guy's the top
ten receiver. Now, when's the last time you got a
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left tackle and you're like, within three games, you're like, yeah,
that's a top three left tackle. Even Aiden Hutcheson, the
kid from Detroit, the pass rusher, it took a year.
I covered Warren Sap It took a year. Melik Neighbors
is great today. I mean, it's just the way it works,
that is the position. So it's very interesting this offseason.
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We spent so much time talking about one position. You know,
they still had a year in a contract, one position
making noise. And I'm looking around this league and I'm thinking,
I'm looking at Alan, I'm looking at Mahomes zero impact,
and I like Stefan Diggs. I liked Randy Moss. T
O was just too much for me to deal with.
But I understand wanting the ball. Dak Prescott did just
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fine without Dez, didn't win more left to did just fine.
Be very very careful you're seeing now, I mean you're
seeing quarterback matters more than ever. If the quarterback has
a good coach, I'm just not going to in any industry.
My noisiest employee I've got to see a connection to
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W's right, like if or revenue, Well, Buffalo's selling out
every game, regardless of who's wide receiver. In any business,
if you're the noisiest employee, you have to be impossible
to replace or driving wins in revenue. No star receiver
in this league is driving wins, revenue and merchandise sales.
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That's not the way it works. So I can deal
with noisy. I can deal like Charles Barkley got real
noisy during that contract thing. Barkley's driving ratings and revenue.
I can deal with that. I can deal with drama.
But you you got to be driving stuff. Can't be
in the passenger seat. You're driving ratings, you're driving revenue,
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you're driving wins, you're driving merchant. I can take the noise.
I can take the noise just saying there's so many
great star receivers coming into the NFL, be very careful
star receiver guy about getting loud in the offseason, because
I I Josh Allen in Buffalo's offense looks good to me.
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It looks better than it did last year. And the
Houston trophies in Kansas City last two years without Tyreek Hill.
He's a hell of a player, but he's much more
necessary in Miami than he is in Kansas City. Jmack
with a.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
News no, no, no, this is the herdline news.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Oh, let's get started with Kellen Moore Colin, the Philadelphia
offensive coordinator, was brought into fix Jalen Hurts after a
rough last year.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
It's working so far. Eagles second in total yards per game.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
The offense has looked very sharp, although you know they
didn't score enough points against the Saints, but they're doing
one and just a few weeks into the season. Nick
Sirianni said he's playing a role some of us can
relate to backseat driver.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I'm letting Kellen run the you know, drive the car and.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And just like my wife will say, you know to me,
hey make sure you take it right here, left here,
and she can give me directions.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I'm a same thing in these scenarios.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Just is just chiming in when I have something to
chime in. Well, he's been at his best when he
lets his coordinator. If the coordinator's competent call the plays,
that's okay. They call him walk around. Coaches Jimmy Johnson
let his coordinators make calls. Pete Carroll was a walk
around coach. Belichick to a large degree, walked around monitor
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his coaches. Occasionally he has a snippet Josh McDaniels once
a game, like Josh, do this, do that. But in
the end, I don't have a problem at all with
Nick saying I'm gonna let my guys drive the car.
I prefer my coach like Kyle Shanahan's called in the plays.
He's brilliant. I would prefer that's not the case.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well for now, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
If all of a sudden, they're sputtering at six and
six and we know Siriani's on the hot seat, he's
not going down letting Kellen Moore call the place. You
know that's gonna happen, Sirian if he's fighting for his job, right,
he's got to take over.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
No, No, it's not early in the season, but.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, they just let me say again, God, you guys,
Philadelphia just went to the hottest team in the league,
New Orleans and beat them.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So what we're on the week four?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, but without a J. Brown. They're their best player.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So they're without AJ Brown this week. I'm looking at the.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Practice report, Vonte Smith, No Lynn Johnson, DeVante Smith.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And they're gonna go to Tampa and eat. Okay, they
may show up in the Blazing Fire.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
It may show up.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Philadelphia is going to Tampa and they're gonna eat.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So guys may show up in headlines as well, a
little head to head action.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Huh wow. So so you're.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Really fine with Hey, hey, we beat the Saints. It's
all good in the hood. Let's just let Kellen Moore
keep calling his place.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yes, I'm just telling you, if you look at the history,
this is not or college basketball call. I mean, Nick
Saban controlled virtually everything. Lane Kiffin's call in place. I
get it. In the NFL, most of the great coaches
are not necessarily on the headset. They may put it
on in crisis, but they're not on the headset.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
But for now, when your job's on the line and
they're trying to run you out of town, you better
get on the headset and save your job.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
No, or do you just let they just beat the
Saints and now they're gonna get back in the plane
fly down there. Let me tell you they'll be drinking
my ties twenty minutes after that game of.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
The bucks real the wind and rain from Hurricane Halen.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Maybe too bad. That feels okay, really ugly. Okay, Well,
Davante and AJ Brown may not play. So you're telling
me it's gonna be a run game with Sakon Barkley Jalen.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Hurts thirty five carries for sake.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Question I was saying. So I looked up the weather.
My take is, well, the weather would benefits Philadelphia because
I got Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, so quarterback running back.
I got better players, especially running the ball in crappy weather.
So the weather plays into Philadelphia. I mean, if you
got a twenty five mile an hour wind, you're not
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throwing deep ball to AJ Brown anyway. So the weather
even helps Philadelphia. What you don't want to do is
go down to Miami as a Northern team in like
September and it's ninety eight and humid. But going down
there when it's wet and windy and you have a
Saquon Barkley, I'm good with that, all right.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Okay, So let's go to the second story. Brandon Ayuk boy,
he's off to a rough start, chirpy off season is
the highest paid receiver on the team, and he's doing
nothing so far for San Francisco. Well, forty nine Ers
legend Steve Young, who's got something to say all the time,
says missing all that preseason time is the reason brand
and Ayuk is struggling.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Here he is, Brandon needs to look at in the eye,
like you know. I'm sure there's things.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Maybe the plays haven't been called for him as much,
maybe there's some things odd things that happen on certain
downs where he wasn't the primary when they thought he
would be. But in the end, the full measure of
what's happened, Brandon needs to own it. I've come back,
I missed, I missed those camp and now I'm not
that's not happening. So I have to take that on myself.
There's no blame other than yourself own it.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
That's right, He's totally right.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Niner screwed this up. Well, I should have traded him
way back before the draft.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I will say, they draft. So here's what's interesting with
the Niners. They drafted two wide receivers. So you were
clearly unhappy with the noise. So then move off the noise.
And so now I think if pearsall had that incident,
that near tragedy, and he hasn't quite been what we think.
Apparently he hasn't been in regular I mean it just
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he got banged up early. Then there was the allot
shots no no, yeah, so he was banged up early
in camp, that hurt shoulder injury which is reoccurring, and
then he had, you know, the incident in San Francisco.
So he's just this year is just a throwaway year.
But my take is they made a move in the
draft signaling we see noise coming, we're gonna move off it.
And they didn't. They doubled down on Ayuk.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So a Yuk has eleven catches for one hundred nineteen
yards through three games. I think Juwan Jennings eclipsed that
last week.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Again some yeah, and I and we like hayukh. I
like him as a player, Yeah, I don't know him
as a guy.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I like him everything I've read about him as a
guy and heard and seen the contracts with that.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's just not my cup of tea.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I don't need that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
You know less drama, right, I know you like kind
of drama kings, right, don't you.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I'm okay, you have to be driving wins revenue rating.
You gotta be driving stuff if you're drama. Once the
drama outweighs the reality of what you're what you're creating. Like,
I like Randy Moss, but Belichick's like, I'm winning trophies
with Dion Branch. I'm not. They moved off Randy. Randy
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got unhappy they moved off him, and then they won
with Edelman and Gronk. So I'm not anti Randy Moss.
He's one of the best players I've ever seen. But
if they had two Super Bowls, if they beat the Giants,
then not gonna pulp with more.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
That that's fair. I would counter that more people.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Like respect or thought that Randy Moss team was better
than any Dion Branch team the Patriots ever had.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Right, sweet, where's the trophy?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I mean they went undefeated in the regular season, you know,
I know.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
So that makes the loss.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I'm lost in the Super Bowl, But.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Okay, seems like it matters to me. Yeah, by my standards,
I guess are out of whack winning.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Let's go to another receiver to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Justin Jefferson excited for the Packers Vikings game, especially his
personal beef with Jayi Alexander. The last time these guys
were healthy, Alexander held Jefferson to fifteen receiving yards.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
And then hit the gritty in his face.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Justin.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Jefferson, of course, made the gritty pretty famous in the
NFL because he's a damn good dancer. Justin Jefferson talked
the trash back to Alexander.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
He likes to do that stuff to get inside someone's head.
I'm not really tripping on that. I'm gonna just get
my giveback by Griddyan and his zone, so I'm not
really I'm not tripping on it at all. I'm excited
for a mashup.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I like this game. I don't have a pick yet.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Ye I just want to watch the game. I did
not put this in Blazing five. I can't wait to
watch the game. There's two schools of thought. Jordan Love
hasn't been playing and now he faces arguably the best
defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
In football who likes to blitz, and he just.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Hasn't played, and he may not be one hundred percent.
The other school of thought is Minnesota is really good
at home. Now you're going to Lambeau, gonna be a
little regression. Sam Darnold can be reckless. Green Bay's taking
the ball away like crazy. So to me, you can
sell me on when you can sell me on two outcomes,
I stay away. I could see green Bay getting to
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Sam he gets a little reckless. Or I could see
Brian Flores driving Jordan Love nuts. He's throwing stuff out
there and the young receivers Jordan's been inactive. I can
see both outcomes. I don't have any conviction on this.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Pat vikings undefeated and they're three point underdogs on the
road against a team of a hobbled quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
For the records of those for the record, and it's weird.
Underdogs are crushing this year. They're barking so last year
favorites one, meaning the fans won last year. Fans won
last year, the books are winning this year.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Fans are broken.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Fans are not going well. Even last night, Dallas was
the better team and I lost a half a pens.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
See this is why the early in the week betting stuff.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, the Blazing five, I don't get to do that.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
We need to maybe have an amendment.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You know what you and I from now on Blazing
fives on Monday.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, I think if Monday you come out and say,
I bet the Bears in the Cowboys. I can at
this line lock it in. You can't do all five,
but you can do a couple.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Ryan, let's vote on that. We got two that degree
with you. Yeah, yeah, it's done it and Ryan buzz kill.
Ryan's like, no good.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I mean, if you could come out Monday and say, hey,
I'm already taking this and here's why I think that counts.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Ryan just said in my ear, the segment is for
the fans, not the sh I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
No, it's for you.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Sharp's put money on my wallet.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
The fans are just not stop tuning in because you
lock it on Monday. Maybe we'll drive up the Monday
number more.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
How about I get one pick a week to lock
in a new segment called Colin's Locking it in. Early
j meck with the news.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It figures the Cowboy kickers hitting ninety four yard field
goals and last night to win the bet. It looked
like he aimed. It's like me with a golf shot.
I'll hit a bad golf shot and I'll be like, well, yeah,
that's where I was aiming. I didn't even have my
feet right Anyway, I'm not bitter. Really.
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Speaker 1 (35:08):
So when Justin Field went from the Bears to the Steelers,
he went from a defensive head coach to a defensive
head coach, a defensive culture to a defensive culture. It's
not like he went to Andy Reid Sean McVay shanahan.
He went from a defensive coach and a defensive culture
to the same thing in Pittsburgh. Just a better run organization,
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better owned organization, better operated. But it's kind of the
same thing, right. Well, he was on a podcast recently
and with Cam Hayward and he said, no, no, no, no, no,
Pittsburgh's way different coaching Pittsburgh or Chicago's Come on. What's
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it like with Arthur Smith.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
It's been great with him so far. Just his you know,
competitive spirit and he's really smart, definitely knows how to
like kind of detailed plays to his player strength, so
you know that's always good to happen in OC and
stuff like that. So you know, it's been great and
kind of just you know, still still learning each other
each and every day and kind of how he operates
in the game. But you know, everything's been smooth and
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he's been awesome.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
The first thing he said is it's not close, So
you either have a disgruntled ex bear and he didn't
sound like it. There's no proof he was ever an
angry kid. He's a good kid. Everybody likes him. Sounds
happy or it's a coaching thing, and mys tell me
it's coaching thing. Oline has regressed badly. Run games disappeared
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with the new OC. So the defense is still good
with ebra plups. I've said, I don't know if he's
a head coach, he can coach defense. Defense still good.
Nobody's going a lot of touchdowns on the Bears. That's
not it. No, it's the OC. And I mean this
is crazy. I mean from going from the Bears to
the Steelers culturally in terms of their defensive coaches, they're
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defensive cultures, they're tough towns. And he said it's not close.
I mean I thought he went from like a studio
apartment to a one bedroom. It sounds like he went
from a studio department to bell Air. And we all
knew coming into this season there were four or five
coaches on the hot seat, so Dennis Allen, but he
hired a really good OC, Mike McCarthy. He remains week
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to week or at least year to year. Nick Seriani's
more week to week. There was Robert Salah. Well, Aaron's
upright getting protection. He's good for now. The thing that's
interesting is I don't like interim coaches, and eber Flus
does show an ability. He knows his side of the ball.
I think the bigger issue is ownership and the offensive coordinator.
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But can you get rid of Shane Waldron in season? Now?
The Bills have done that with Josh Allen. They did that,
they moved out Ken Dorsey and they moved in Brady.
But Josh Allen wasn't a state superstar, and Sean McDermott's
there and a lot of that's a formidable organization. Nobody's
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going anywhere, right, McDermott got a little heap, but that's
form Buffalo, believe it or not, now is really formidable, foundational.
So you can make that little move in the season
and go, hey, we're just gonna shift overseas. Chicago's leaking everywhere.
So I don't think you can make that move. I
don't think you can make that move in Chicago. So,
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I mean, it's just really interesting that Justin Fields, he's
not a disgruntled kid. I didn't live him as a quarterback,
but he's a lovely guy. Like in Chicago, everybody liked him.
I couldn't find anybody nobody banging him his personality, it
was his accuracy. Everybody liked him. That's not And when
you listen to him on the podcast, he sounds happy,
he's laughing. But for him to say it's not close,
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we don't look at Pittsburgh and go, oh, offensively, that
is google. I mean, those guys are out there changing
the world offensively. We've been banging on the Steelers offense
forever can't get the old line right, the run game right,
the coordinator right. So maybe it's just Arthur Smith. And
it could be it just Arthur Smith. But I mean,
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I'm watching the Bears like you now, the big game
this weekend, that Rams Bears game is. I know you're
looking at it thinking, well, Rams the losing record, Bears
losing record, No, that that game means something. What if
the Bears torpedo it and just looked like a hot
mess offensively? Again, what do you do? What do you
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do now? Jmac he took his four oh one k
He's moved it all to the Windy City. I am
not so sure. Blazing five and a good one is
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