September 28, 2024 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (02:00):
What is going on? Everybody? A little weekend mailbag? You
guys know the drill at John middlecoff is the Instagram
account fire in those dms. We didn't put a mail
bag on Friday on Fugazi Friday Podcast because we've been
going pretty long with Stuckey. So I got a bunch
(02:20):
of questions and we just put it out on Saturday
morning pretty easy, and wanted to bang out a bunch
of your questions. So we'll start with JR. Question for
the back, how do you feel about the recent poll
that The Athletic published showing coaches and executives around the
league voting the Ravens as the best front office in football? Uh?
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Basically what this poll says forty NFL executives and coaches
ranked the top front offices, and the Ravens were one,
The Chiefs were two. The Niners and Eagles round out
the top four, with the Lions and the Packers right there.
I have no problem with it. I think at this
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point in time you would have to rank the Chiefs
one because whoever is going to get the top vote,
it's going to be because they've had a long history
of having success, and clearly the Ravens have like they've
been good for since I've basically been in junior high
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in the late nineties with the Ray Lewis Jonathan og
didn't all the way through. I mean, they've had some
bumps in the road, but you win a Super Bowl
in two thousand, you win another Super Bowl in two
thousand and what was at twelve. You've been in the
mix a lot over both decades. You've been a one
seed what twice over the last five years. I just
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would have to put the Chiefs one because part of
this is they have also been consistently good since Andy
Reid has been there and Veach has been there too. Now,
Veitch has only been the GM. I forget the exact
year he got it. Was it twenty seventeen or twenty
eighteen when he became the GM, But like I mean,
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they've just had more success at the highest level than
the Ravens. You know, with this Lamar run, they have
won only a couple of playoff games, where the Chiefs
having just won playoff games, they've been winning Super Bowls
and last year to me kind of stamped it. I
mean the move they made trading Tyreek Hill and then
winning back to back Super Bowls and rebuilding their defense.
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So I would have the Chiefs won just because, like
the body of work now is not as long as
the Ravens. But you know, Da Costa took over for
when Ozzie retired. Harbaugh's been there the majority of the time.
And let's face it, like where John Harbaugh come from.
Andy Reid obviously the Eagles, you know, and Howie and
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their success over two decades, and Andy played a part
in that so I don't know if this is just
like present day. The Chiefs are also, I mean they're
three and oh one team's one and two, which obviously
the Ravens aren't your typical one and two team, neither
of the forty nine ers. But I got no issue
with it other teams like I would have the Packers
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if we're just basing this on clearly just not today.
It's over a body of work. To me, the Packers
have to be above the Lions Seattle. I think John
Schnyder is one of the best GMS rams to you know,
the Bills. If it's just based on Brandon Bean and
Sean McDermott, their success speaks for themselves. I mean, the
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draft pick of Josh Allen seems like a no brainer now.
It was not viewed that way at the time, and
I think I was fall under the category as like
that's kind of crazy. It's pretty bold. I mean, it's
one of the great draft picks of all time, especially
when you include like they trade it up really really far.
I think they traded with the Browns. I know you
don't cover baseball, but you did spend some time in
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the Bay Area and with the Oakland A's recent departure.
I'd like to hear your thoughts about the East Bay
losing three professional sports team over the course of five years.
I'd also like to know if what is the appeal
of Vegas as a sports market. I can see how
an NFL team like the Raiders could make it work,
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as an NFL game is a huge event, but for
a team like the A's that play eighty one home games,
I don't know it's going to be a great attraction
to Vegas. Well, it's all based on money, and you know,
I didn't just you know, live in the Bay Area.
I worked at a radio station for I don't even
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know three and a half years that had the A's
and the Raiders and went up against the opposing station
that had the best properties the Niners and the Giants. Now,
the thing with football, like the Niners are much bigger
than the Raiders in the Bay Area and just in general,
and that just has to do. I mean, I saw
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someone a meme about the last time the Raiders won
a playoff game. All these things didn't exist, and it's
been a long time. So obviously success plays a huge
part in it. But football's big and even a bad
football team matters. But for a radio property, for example,
and I could just use my experience. You know, football
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games are on the weekend, right, so you get credit
for ratings Monday through Friday. Now, the benefit of having
a football team like can br in the Bay Areas,
they get Kyle Shanahan, they get John Lynch every week,
you know, and with the Raiders we got Derek Carr
and Charles Woodson like so you get guests like that.
That matters. But baseball is the more powerful radio property
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because you get every day, you get a weekday game.
Now they're at night, but some of them are during
the day. You get a lot of day games when
they travel. It's powerful. And the A's history speaks for itself.
I mean they were a legendary franchise dynasty in the seventies.
They're one of the more popular teams of the eighties
with Ricky Henderson, Mark McGuire and jose Canseco and then
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they made a movie about Billy Bean. But when we
had the A's they didn't rate at all. Nobody listened.
And this is not recently when they've sucked like they
were really good. They were competing to be the number
one seed and the Giants, now they had won some
World Series, but their teams were kind of hit or
miss during that time, crushed the A's. So I didn't
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comment on social media or whatever, because my opinion isn't
gonna be that kind. I don't think there is a
market for the Warriors. Joe Laka bought the Warriors to
move them out of that arena and move them to
the city. But that was his number one goal gawn
like player acquisition, when he bought the team, was to
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move them immediately. The Raiders a little more complicated. I mean,
they've been a pretty nomadic franchise. I mean, in my life,
they've been in what La, Oakland, and now Vegas. They've
been in three different places in a span of twenty
five years, so actually less than that because they ended
up moving in twenty twenty and when they moved back
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to the Bay in ninety four, so you're talking about
twenty six years, three different cities. Now. The A's a
little more complicated. Obviously been there for a long time,
but I don't think they're financially viable there. Separate from
their owner, who he gets a lot of shit, he
won't spend any money. You know what my take's always been,
Even if he's spent money, I don't think it would work.
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I don't think the way baseball is set up, it
is plausible to have two teams given the market conditions
of the Bay Area. The Giants suck out all the
oxygen and honestly, they're kind of struggling right now. And
I'm not talking on the field. I'm just talking about
the business dynamics of getting the investments. I actually think
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the A's. My hot take is they'll never be in
Vegas because I don't think they make sense in Vegas.
But they're gonna work in Sack because the business community,
let's say, in the Bay Area, was not gonna give
the A's any money like they give the Giants, like
they give the Warriors, like they give the forty nine ers.
Like Ultimately, if Mark Davis had played at White right,
he would have had a chance because it's football. But
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I think the money that they will get in Sacramento,
I mean, they're playing in a triple A stadium, but
I actually think that makes sense. Fifteen sixteen thousand people.
I think they will draw way more people the next
couple of years. And they ever have in the coliseum.
Here's the thing with the Colisseum. It's like no one's
showing up. I was going to games in twenty thirteen
and fourteen and fifteen again when they were good, like
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they were hosting teams in the playoffs. They hosted the
Tigers in a game five with Verlander and Scherzer. Guess
what if you'd go to a day game or a
game during the week. Was no one there? This thing
like the brand had died a long time ago, despite
like Billy Bean and those guys being really good. But
I understand people being emotional. They're not like leaving the country.
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They're just going an hour up the road. I mean,
I was born and raised in Davis, which is connected
by a causeway to Sacramento, which from where I grew up.
When the river Cats came to Sacramento, I don't know,
it was like it's longer now because traffic's a disaster now.
But I could go door to door in like fifteen minutes.
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I think it's gonna work, I really do. And the
A's were just not a viable property anymore in the
Bay Area. The brand was toxic, the owner was toxic,
and the people had just tapped out and the Giants listen.
People don't like to hear this. Oakland people are sensitive
about this. But the ratio, and I've just seen it
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from a number perspective. I worked in radio. I did
a lot of stuff in local TV at Comcast, which
had the properties. It's like a nine to one ratio.
The difference is like a Giants fan will not watch
the A's nobody watched them or listen to them. Football's different.
Even though forty nine Er fans vastly outnumber Raiders fans,
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not just in northern California, in the state of California,
people will still watch random football games like the Raiders
playing the Broncos or whatever. When I lived there, like
people were still paying attention. That's not the case with baseball,
and I think there were a lot of different variables.
But some of the reaction which I get, people are
emotional about this stuff. It's been bad for a long
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long time. I also think that there's something in sports
and you don't see this really anywhere. It's why people
laugh when, like, you know, if the Bears don't get
what they want, they could what leave. They're never leaving
the chiefs could they're not leaving, and we all know
that no one even those threats fall on deaf Ears fast,
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where with the Oakland teams, it was like they could
leave and everyone knew they were serious. No, and even I,
like I pushed back against Vegas heavily with the Raiders.
It's the smartest thing anyone's ever done with that franchise.
So listen, I give more credit to Jerry Jones in
the league, but Mark was clearly on board with it.
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And financially it's taken them to another level because they
were drowning because the amount of money they were getting,
not just because of the stadium, but the businesses in
the Bay Area were not going to funnel them cash
like they would Jet in the forty nine ers, especially
once Jet built the stadium in twenty thirteen. So I
think it all boils down to economics. All this stuff
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is not that emotional. It's all about money. And listen,
you can talk shit about the owner being really cheap,
but like his franchise makes no money, and if he
would invested money, I don't think they would have made money.
I really don't. And I think it's gonna work in Sack.
I know it's gonna work in Sack. And my hot
take is they'll never end up in Vegas because Vegas
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if me and you owned a sports team right now
and had no connection to either Oakland will never have
another baseball you know, a Major League baseball team, an
NFL team, or a basketball team. Ever. Again, I'm talking
NBA every team. Like, when the NBA expands, do you
know where they're gonna expand Vegas?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Money? It's all about money. You've got the barrier has
a ton, Yeah, and the other two teams dominate that
cash flow. And once you get your hand in the
cookie jar, you don't want to share the cookies. And
Jed ain't sharing the cookies, and the giants ain't sharing
the cookies, and the people that have the cookies want
to give them the cookies. So it's like, it's harsh,
(14:50):
it sounds bad. You'd be like middle Clock, You're just
a Niners giant sky. Yeah. I grew up that way,
so did most people my age in that area. And
this is not like just guessing this, Like I have
tangible data. I worked in a world where the numbers
matter and I saw it firsthand. I just did so
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It's sad, but it's also been inevitable. And I feel
like that that city, like in modern day the Internet era,
like those teams like Chicago would get a team whether
it was nineteen twenty or whether it was twenty twenty five.
San Francisco slash Shan Jose would get a team in
any era. Oakland would not. And in this modern day
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area with you know the listen their government, the local
government's a laughing sock. I mean a complete joke, not
just locally. I mean when I grew up like that
was like Jesus, fuck's going on in Oakland? And all
their owners had the same saying the same tunes. They
really did. So you can say John Fisher, super cheap guy,
(15:57):
wanted out, okay, Mark Davis, and Davis always bitched and moaned,
well what about Joe Lacam who is universally agreed upon
like a successful business man, wanted no part of it.
So again sounds harsh, and I understand if you're a
fan of the team, but that area is such a
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shithole where the colisseum An Oracle is no different than Candlestick.
Candlestick was bad, and what they do they moved him out,
and we can argue all day long. It sucks, especially
if you don't live down in that area too, if
you live in you know, the East Bay or San Francisco,
to have to drive down there, it sucks. But there
was a reason that they put dynamite around Candlestick and
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blew that fucking thing to Smith the Rens. They should
do the same thing to the coliseum in Oracle, blow
it up, because it's it's useless and it has been
for a long time. And the Colisseum, like Oracles, obviously
old and just outdated. The Colisseum is a relic.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I had a couple of people, I guess I mentioned
that the kicker for the Cowboys was the best kicker
in the league, and a couple of people were like,
what about Boswell? What about Budker? Like listen, guys, this
isn't quarterbacks. Like okay, Budger's better Boswell? Like we're not
no one's ranking kickers or punters. My point was simply,
(17:18):
like the dude is an incredible story, was a college
soccer player and has transitioned and is clearly one of
the best kickers in the NFL. Is he one? Is
he four? I don't care, like we're not spending any
energy on ranking kickers, but we all agree he's really good.
(17:38):
He's really good, And that was my point. So here's
a question. Is this Cowboys kicker we're trading for. That
guy consistently makes sixty yard field goals. Seems like a weapon.
Well why wouldn't the Cowboys won? Do you have? The
crazy part about the Cowboys is they trade for Trey
Lance a couple of years ago, which, let's face it,
(17:59):
Jerry was hoping to strike oil and get off Dak Prescott,
which actually worked in Dak's benefit. And to me, I
was thinking this last night when he signed the contract.
Can you imagine what that front office thought the moment
they saw that guy practice, Like, yeah, we're stuck with
Dak whatever he and that's why Dak ends up getting
two hundred twenty million dollars or whatever. But the Cowboys'
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third quarterback, Trey Lance, makes more than their backup quarterback
who he cannot beat out. And you could not play
a game if you had the choice, you would not
take Trey Lance over Cooper Rush in way more money
than their kicker, who is clearly a weapon. I got
no problem with guys underperforming that are starters or whatever,
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but there should be some sort of like when you're
like a backup and you don't play, your salary goes
into a pool and like the guy that's starting, like
gets some of your money. Because in what world does
Brandon Aubrey make eight hundred and ninety k and the
third string quarterback make five million dollars? And I understand
(19:04):
these contracts are signed a long time ago, but if
I'm Cooper Rush, it's like, wait, I make half as
much as this guy. When if something happens to Dak
and it has before I've come in and I've manned
the ship. Kind of messed up economics on the Cowboys
huge Eagles fan hate house. Siriani has no other responsibilities
other than running the team and managing the game on Sundays,
(19:25):
and he's terrible at it. Do you think if he
was fired he would get a coordinator job? If not,
he just screams he needs to be gone. Do I
think he'd get a coordinator job. He was their coordinator
when they first hired him, and he demoted himself slash.
They devoted him for Shane Sichin and then the last
(19:47):
two years when Shane left, they hired another guy. They
fired that guy and they hired another guy. So his
own team is acknowledging. He cannot call plays his own
team and if you want to give him credit for
that himself as well. So why would another team, if
he gets fired, hire that guy. I know you're not
(20:08):
necessarily saying that, but long winded way of saying no,
under no circumstances would Nick Sirianni would be hired as
an offensive coordinator? How could you? He literally doesn't do
it for his own team. We can nitpick Shane Waldrin
or Lou Getzi or some of these guys that get
(20:28):
hired Alex van Pelt like once they get fired. But
they have been calling plays consistently, right, this guy does
not call plays. They don't let him do that. He
doesn't let himself do that. Is there? Any way? They
fire a mid season, go to Kellen Moore, and then
hire Bill in the offseason. Well, to me, Bill is
(20:51):
a package deal. Whenever you do hire Bill, I think
he brings Josh, So I would be a little stunned
if he works with another offensive coordinator not named Josh McDaniels.
(21:15):
Even in John for the Pod just turn twenty one.
Congratulations and driving out to meet my fam in lom
Poke Avla Beach yearly transition tradition. Have yourself a good
time from Marilyn and have been listening to you and
Colin for a while. I'm a Steeler fan and gotta
say I'm excited to see if Steve if Fields can
(21:38):
beat that perfect Baker Gino role of sustainable and cheap
enough to build a dope roster. What say you on
all three quarterback situations peak play? Uh, Well, here's the thing.
When you pay a guide nothing like they did originally
(21:59):
with Gino, and like they did originally with Baker, and
then you have a successful season with that guy, right
like last year the Tampa did with Baker a couple
of years ago they did with Gino Smith, you then
have to pay them like Baker was a free agent,
so you either let him walk or you give them
(22:20):
like what they did one hundred million bucks. You know
Gino got less than that, but Gino still, what does
Geno make thirty million dollars a year twenty five minutes.
It's not like he makes two So at the end
of the year it feels just has a solid season
and you guys win the division, win twelve games. It's
not like you just get to keep Field for four
(22:42):
million dollars. Now, it's not like he makes fifty million dollars.
But what do you do? Do you franchise tag him?
Do you just give him? Try to give him the
Baker contract? Is he cool accepting that? That's where it
gets complicated. And I don't know the answer to that.
I would say this, I'll take Geno and Baker. When
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those guys make the contracts they make relatively cheap. You're
only stuck with for a couple of years. You know,
Gino makes less guaranteed than Daniel Jones. You know Baker
makes a little bit more. But like, if you can
function this year with Fields, I can give him that contract.
I cannot unless he takes gigantic strides. Once you start
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getting into that kind of TUA world and above, then
we got major question marks. Like to me, once I
start going one hundred and fifty million guaranteed and above,
you got to be able to carry the team. And
I mean, I have a lot of respect for the organization,
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but let's call a spade a spade. I mean they're
being carried by their defense. It's not like they're scoring
a ton of touchdowns here. And he's played good. He's
been better this year than he was for the Bears.
And I think he mentioned I saw I was at
the gym and I saw it on the TV. They
showed like Cam Hayward's podcast he was on, and he
must have made a comment about like he likes the
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coaching style more in Pittsburgh than he did in Chicago,
which obviously helps big Commanders fan question about our old
offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. Obviously, he's great coach and is
one with quarterbacks like Garoppolo and now Party, who I
(24:27):
think is a good, great quarterback. But do you think
in the back of his mind when he gets in
these games and looks at the other sideline and sees
a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, first round quarterbacks loaded
with physical traits, he is rolling with a seventh rounder.
He feels like he's stuck in quarterback purgatory. My guess
(24:51):
is in twenty twenty, the forty nine Ers were coming
off a Super Bowl loss, They had a bunch of injuries,
and they had an awful season. It ended up leading
them to.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Is that what led them to Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
No, maybe Nick Bosa was already on the team. They
might have led them to McGlinchey. I forget, But they
were just really, really bad in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
What was the pick? Maybe they traded Buckner.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know, I forget. I'm all that feels like
a long time ago. Oh, that led them to Trey Lance.
That's what it did. That led so to the twenty
twenty season. They ended up with the twelfth pick. They
traded up to get Trey Lance in the twenty twenty
one draft. I was thrown off of my years in
that season. Toward the end of the year, San Jose
(25:38):
had the most draconian COVID rules in the history of
the world, and the forty nine ers got kicked out
of the Bay Area, so they had to come to Arizona.
A couple of years later, your boy followed them, and
so the last I don't know five six games of
the year they were here, they played home games in
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Era Zona because of the rules. This is the fall
of twenty twenty. We're so insane in Santa Clara County
that they just packed up and left and bid Well's like,
you can come use my stuff. And that year, toward
the end of the year, sometime in December, I forget too,
might have been like week twelve or thirteen or fourteen,
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they played Josh Allen and he wasn't great. I mean,
he looked like Mahomes and this was a young version
of Josh Allen. And I think that really hit Kyle
like we need to be aggressive and go get something.
And Jimmy was still on the team, but Jimmy was hurt,
and they traded for Trey Lance, who was a physical
trade guy, and it blew up in their face. So
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I think once you have the experience of having something
like that blow up in your face, like yeah, he
would love Josh Allen or Mahomes. But I think, and
I'm guilty of this too, those guys are so rare,
Like everyone wants those guys, like right, even the good
teams like the Steelers, Like just look at all the
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other good teams in the NFL. The Lions have Jared GoF,
They love him, they would love they would take Josh
Allen over him in a New York minute, But it's
hard to get those guys. And let's face it, there
is an element in the draft, whether you trade up
or are drafting high and you take them that you
just kind of keep your fingers crossed that it works.
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So I think, yes, would he rather have Mahomes or
Josh Allen than Purty, of course, but I think after
the Trey Lance experience, I think he feels pretty grateful
and lucky to have a guy that he knows that
he can win with and he's prett damn good. My
question is what advice would you give someone on negative comments.
(27:46):
I have a Ravens podcast with my dad called Ravens
Flock Talk, and we can have some controversial takes. That's
always been my premise since day one. Dude to how
passionate we are. There are no pomp pom to if
someone isn't playing or coaching. Well, it started as a
fun project, bonding among with my dad. It's cool you
(28:07):
got a podcast with your dad, talk and ball. We
went from thirty two followers last year to over one
point five k rookie numbers to my haters, but this
is with no content in the off seasons. However, now
I can't help but to respond to the trolls and
hate because it gets to be too much. Maybe I
(28:27):
focus too much on the negative comments first the positives.
But because I record the videos and it takes a
lot of work to edit, I simply have my heart
in this hold myself to a standard which doesn't seem
appreciated at times if someone disagrees or proceeds to make
things personal, which I retaliate hard to zone it out.
(28:48):
I guess I've just been doing this long enough and
have heard everything like to me comments on the internet.
Obviously I appreciate any positive comments, but if you're gonna
read the positive comment, you're also gonna read the negative
comments because it's unavoidable, and I don't know, maybe I've
just I don't mean it's gonna come off wrong, because
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I appreciate anyone who watches or listens, because times the
most valuable asset we have, and in what I do,
getting other people's time is obviously the business I'm in.
So if you're gonna watch it, whether you hate me
or like me, I do appreciate it. But one thing,
as I've gotten older doing this, comments mean nothing to me.
I mean, they really don't, and partly because you can't
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read them without seeing negatives, and you just have to realize,
like no matter what you do, it's the Internet, right,
so you're gonna see shit that is just bad. And
I guess I've gotten to the point a long time
ago where it just doesn't mean anything to me. I
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don't let it emotionally, or try not to. We're all
human beings. But one I don't try to look into
like you know. One thing I've done is i've gotten older,
is I've deleted Twitter on my phone. I don't have
it for a couple of reasons. One obviously I like
getting my news and stuff, but do I need to
(30:18):
see everyone I follows opinion on everything all the time,
Like why do I need all this in my brain?
And two it's really hard to not see just like
you're you know, to go to your replies and see
what people are saying, and let's just face it, it's
gonna tend to be negative. And I think the you
either do two things. You either learn how to realize
(30:40):
like listen if more and more people are listening, like
that is what matters. What ultimately I care about is
you're growing. And if you're growing and people like it
and you like what you're doing, and I listen, I
don't know if it's a side project. If you can
make any money off it, like that's all that matters, right,
because comments are such a small subset. I learned this
(31:03):
in radio, that like don't let a packed phone line.
This is back, you know, And I guess some radio
stations still do this, but like take phone calls you
could have. You could do a topic and the phone
lines light up, and let's say there are nine lines
where people can call into and you can think this
(31:23):
is an incredible polarizing topic, and then you get the
ratings three weeks later and you're like, no one was
actually listening. And I think comments can work like that
in this business. It's why I think overall the media
it's weird, Like they tend to hate Elon. Obviously there
are political reasons for that. You know, he feels right wing.
(31:46):
They are they're not Democrat, they're like hardcore left. Yet
they are obsessed with his app in Twitter, and they've
loved it for fifteen years and most of them spend
a lot of time on there. And I think it
can really jade you because it is a negative place
and if you just want to sit in negativity, like
you said, you struggle with it and listen, I'm not
(32:07):
acting like I haven't before in the past, and every
once in a while fall into that trap. But you
realize none of it matters. None of it matters. I mean,
it's completely irrelevant. You could spend all day, every day
responding to negativity on the internet. You literally could spend
your entire day. It's like like one thing I've learned
(32:30):
not to, you know, pat myself on the back. But
early on in Twitter, I had to have an opinion
on everything. Now it's like, in what world do I
want to waste any energy arguing with people I don't know,
I don't give a shit about they might hate me
on the internet. Why do I care over like whatever
(32:52):
you name it any Caitlin Clark's recent controversy, Like is
it actually a controversy or they are just a bunch
of angry people on the internet screaming back and forth
at each other that represent a tiny, tiny subset of
human beings and most people. I always sometimes if you
just scroll on the Internet and you're like, God, everyone's
(33:13):
so angry, and then you just do something in the
real world, like just I don't know, go to the
gym or go out to eat and everyone's like smiling
and friendly. You're like I thought everyone's really angry. You're like, actually,
you just turn off your phone, and that's not the
real world. And I think one benefit anyone of I
don't know that's over thirty years old would have is
(33:38):
definitely if you're my age closer to forty and kind
of grown up in both worlds of pre internet, post Internet,
and just seeing the social media part of the Internet
the entire time, I can't imagine being like fifteen years
old on this if I had a young daughter a
young son on social media, like that would be really
really hard because it'd be im possible to have any
(34:00):
perspective of like, this isn't the end all be all.
If anything, it's doesn't matter because that's ultimately my take.
It does not matter one who gives a shit if
someone's talking shit about your take. If anything, you want
them to interact, right, But at the end of the day,
(34:22):
you can't make everybody happy. And definitely when it comes
to the Internet on comments, so I think the faster
you learned, the only thing that matters is you do
what you like. To me, the number one thing that
is successful in the world of content creation whether that's
YouTube people, podcasters, whatever, is just authenticity. People aren't going
(34:45):
to agree with everything you say. Welcome to life. So
it's like, if you believe it and you're not just
faking it, who cares? You know, Listen, people are gonna
think I'm a whack job. Sometimes I've never made up
a comment here, Like, I only say what I believe.
Sometimes I'll be right, sometimes I'll be wrong. I thought
the Bears probably be pretty good. I thought the Steelers
(35:07):
would suck. Probably wrong on both right. But I didn't
just say that because I was like, you know, maybe
I could stroke the fleemes of the Steelers fan base.
I don't really give a shit. If I truly cared,
maybe I'm doing this wrong. I talk about the Cowboys
open up the show basically every single podcast. We obviously
don't do that. I'll talk about them when they matter,
(35:28):
they play a game, like last night, We're gonna open
the show with them. But I don't just be authentic.
Do what you do and kind of let the chips
fall where they may. Congrats on building a little podcast.
It's also sports, and people are very emotional about that.
(35:50):
So people get worked up, right when you say something
bad about someone that they like. It's just comes with
a territory. What do you think about Quinn Ewers as
an NFL prospect? He was granted as one of the
(36:12):
best quarterback prospects of all time coming out of high school,
but it feels like he is underachieved relative to that ranking.
The injury bug has gotten to him each year as
a starter. To me, that's the biggest question mark because
I thought in that Michigan game he looked like an
NFL player. I did not believe that the previous year
he looked like listen, Michigan is not twenty twenty three, Michigan.
(36:35):
They're still gonna win. They're gonna go like nine and four,
and they got NFL guys all over the place, and
he was brilliant in that game. So I was like, damn, okay,
I might have to look at this guy a little differently.
And then he gets injured, and like you said, he
gets injured all the time. So that to me, he
clearly was playing at a higher level this year, which
(36:56):
is normal young player. You get better, but you gotta
be able to stay on the field. And now we
have a short sample size, but he gets injured a
lot he really does, and let's face it, weird spot
for Sark, weird spot for Sark. What if I almost
say to Eli, what if Arch just plays well, you
(37:21):
just bench him because he's cool with it. I don't know,
it's I think it's a complicated factor here, and I
think everyone just assumes they're going to just go back
to Quinn yard maybe but maybe not. We've seen crazier
in college. In the pros, sometimes you get injured. A
guy comes in, whether he's got hype or not, and
(37:41):
he never comes out so he can make the throws surgical,
intermediate to short passing game. However, he does have a
bad habit of throwing random interceptions. Also, how do you think? Yeah,
I think it's a fascinating to you know scenario. I
think if Arch, depending on how this injury goes, but
(38:05):
makes it to the Oklahoma game, then plays, well, there,
you're gonna bench him after that. This notion of like
can never lose your job to injury, Like we threw
that thing in the trash decades ago. You can get
this is bottom line business now. People getting paid a
lot of variables here. I would not bet the farm
(38:31):
that we just see Quinn Ewers again, we might maybe
we do. Maybe Arch turns out like he plays against Oklahoma,
he would struggle because their defense is really good. A
big fan twenty three years old, been a Browns fan
my entire life. Curious on your take with the Deshaun
Watson situation. I know we're gonna be in cap hell,
(38:55):
but the way he is playing, you have to sit
him down after a while, right. I fear that we
keep throwing him out there. Not only will he lose
the locker room, but a lot of these guys like
Miles Chubb Amari Ward are gonna want out. Yeah. I
think the hard part about the NFL is you're kind
of stuck. You know this. This is not the NBA
(39:16):
where guys just you know a Mari's been traded for
a reason. He's kind of a polarizing player. It's weird,
like he is good, but he's not great, but he
makes a lot of money. But like Miles Garrett's gonna
want out. Okay, what if they say no? You know,
in these other sports, like they always acquiesce to your demands,
(39:37):
and football that's not really the case. You know, I
only trade you when I want to trade you too,
So people like, that's not fair to say, well, that's
kind of the business.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
This is not like Kevin Durants, like I'm ready for
a new place. They're like, Okay, where do you want
to go? That's not really the way it works. But
this Deshawn's situation. They play the Raiders this week. Max
Crosby's banged up, and you can't beat the Raiders. It's
(40:11):
gonna be a long year, man, it really is. I
think it's must win just to kind of quiet people down.
But you could say the same thing about the Raiders
kind of must win for them. This is just a
must win for two bad teams. This is a game
that I probably I'll have a one of the boxes,
but I made a pack with myself, Like I Deshaun
(40:34):
Watson is just an awful watch. The Raiders are not
a great watch either. But I do like a good
train wreck, so I'll be paying attention to this. I
know this, Cleveland fans. You lose this game, looks like
you've got no chance of the playoffs. Your quarterback's awful,
you feel stuck with them. Gonna get weird. Man. I
(40:59):
have a question, isn't the narrative that Mahomes won the
last two Super Bowls with no weapons. False. I mean,
obviously in the NFC, the Eagles and Niners and Lions
had better weapons. But if you look at the true
contenders in the AFC the last two seasons, the Bills,
the Ravens, and the Bengals, I don't think the gap
between their weapons and the Chiefs weapons was big. I mean,
(41:20):
Kelsey is dramatically better player than Diggs, especially in the playoffs.
Rice is at least as good as Cape Davis, and
I don't see a big difference between Pacheco and Cook.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I think it's more that they just traded like this
all time great wide receiver in Tyreek Hill, which we
all agree with. Tyreek Hill is an elite player, and
they just patchworked and they were fine. Like you said,
I mean, Travis Kelce is the greatest pass catching tight
end in the history league. Isaiah Pacheco, it was clear
pretty early like this guy is a high end starting
(41:53):
running back. Rice wasn't on the team two years ago.
So as a rookie, yeah, he was good, but he
wasn't on the team that won it.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
To who they played two years ago? Who the Chiefs
playing the Super Bowl. Why am I forgetting this? They
played the Niners? How am I blanking on this? They
beat the Bengal Oh they played the Eagles. My mind going, yeah,
they played the Eagles. That was the controversial Actually, Bradberry said,
(42:22):
I committed paster interference, but that was where Andy had
some play calls that people were not happy with Jonathan
Gannon in Philly. I think it's more that like back
to back years he's beaten because you're right, the AFC,
that Ravens team, you know, z Flowers, a rookie. Lamar
(42:46):
was the MVP, but it was a bad MVP year.
Mark Andrews was injured, likely still a young ascending player.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
But I think back to back Super Bowls he beat
Jalen Hurts, who was an MVP candidate with A J. Brown,
DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard, and then last year he beats
Brock Purty who was also an MVP candidate with Deebo,
Samuel Brandon, Au, Christian McCaffrey, and George Kittle. Like, I
think we have to acknowledge in those two games that
(43:16):
if you flip flop the quarterbacks then it wouldn't even
be Can you imagine Patrick mahomes like AJ Brown, DeVante
Smith and Dallas Goddard, or with Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle, Brandon,
I you Christian McCaffrey and Juwan Jennings. I mean, I
think that's that's the conversation. But on the totality of it,
he's got a great defense. So if you've got a
(43:37):
great defense and you're a good quarterback, your team's gonna
be good. If you get a great defense and you
give me Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott, it's a playoff team.
If you give me a great defense and you give
me an all time great quarterback, it's immediately a Super
Bowl contender. So I hear what you're saying and who's
really pushing that narrative. Also, okay, last question from the
(44:03):
UK Love the pod. I'll be heading to the Bears
Jags game in London and have been for the last
few years. My question is how long do you think,
if ever, we will see a Super Bowl in London.
It seems like every year there are more and more
games over here. You know one thing, I'm not very connected.
(44:24):
I mean, I don't have any connections like with the
league office, people that run the business angles of these decisions,
which obviously starts with rog and kind of his crew.
I think there's a big difference in having expanded international games,
which the league has done. Right, Brazil this year, Germany
(44:46):
last year? Are they going to Germany again? This year?
They've gone to Mexico City, Like they've made a very
very conscious effort expanding internationally. World is flat. I get it, though,
even if I disagree, like that game did not need
to be in Brazil, But that's another conversation for a
different day. In having the Super Bowl there, So my
(45:10):
uneducated in the sense that I don't have inside information
on this, but my guess of just following this league
as closely as I do, I'd be a little stunned
if for the foreseeable future of the Super Bowls aren't
held in America, and specifically, like, why don't we just
do the rotation, which makes a lot of sense La Scottsdale,
(45:34):
New Orleans, Miami in Vegas. Vegas last year was cool.
Vegas is now in that rotation, But I don't think
that one like the other rule I guess is if
you get a new stadium, you're supposed to get the
Super Bowl, right Minnesota, Atlanta, San Francisco, Like when they
(45:56):
got their new stadiums, I got a Super Bowl. I
don't think any anyone would complain if you just tip
the main just worked your way west east. So far Scottsdale, Vegas,
New Orleans, Miami. Who's pushing back on that? I don't
(46:17):
think anybody. And the reality is, like who really goes
to the Super Bowl? I mean it's not a huge
contingent of people minus the media, Like this isn't one
of those I mean, millions of people aren't attending this thing.
So to me, to make it to places where you
(46:38):
would want to go where a lot of fun stuff's
going on. Like listen, I like Scottsdale more than Vegas.
But Vegas is a better super Bowl set up than here.
Their stadium is right by the Strip. That's a bright
light events town. I mean in Scottsdale, the stadium's out
in bf E. Everyone is hunkered down in old town Scottsdale.
(47:02):
You know, it's kind of spread out. San Francisco is
the same way, LA is the same way. Would anyone
complain if they're like for the next five years and
super Bowl is gonna be in Vegas? I would doubt it.
I really would. If Roddge's announced for five straight years
Super Bowl in Vegas, I think the complaints would add
(47:25):
up to zero. And I'm not counting people on the internet.
I'm counting on people league employees, people that are going
to attend no matter what you know. Obviously, if you
work around football, if you cover football all the networks,
I think there would be zero complaints. As someone that
just has only been there a couple of times and
(47:46):
it's cool, like Miami's pretty badass, but same type. Do
you a little spread out which listen, depending on who
you are. I'm not complaining about stuff being spread out,
but I would just put Vegas on scholar ship. That's
my personal opinion. The volume
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Speaker 1 (02:00):
What is going on? Everybody? A little weekend mailbag? You
guys know the drill at John middlecoff is the Instagram
account fire in those dms. We didn't put a mail
bag on Friday on Fugazi Friday Podcast because we've been
going pretty long with Stuckey. So I got a bunch
(02:20):
of questions and we just put it out on Saturday
morning pretty easy, and wanted to bang out a bunch
of your questions. So we'll start with JR. Question for
the back, how do you feel about the recent poll
that The Athletic published showing coaches and executives around the
league voting the Ravens as the best front office in football? Uh?
(02:47):
Basically what this poll says forty NFL executives and coaches
ranked the top front offices, and the Ravens were one,
The Chiefs were two. The Niners and Eagles round out
the top four, with the Lions and the Packers right there.
I have no problem with it. I think at this
(03:08):
point in time you would have to rank the Chiefs
one because whoever is going to get the top vote,
it's going to be because they've had a long history
of having success, and clearly the Ravens have like they've
been good for since I've basically been in junior high
(03:29):
in the late nineties with the Ray Lewis Jonathan og
didn't all the way through. I mean, they've had some
bumps in the road, but you win a Super Bowl
in two thousand, you win another Super Bowl in two
thousand and what was at twelve. You've been in the
mix a lot over both decades. You've been a one
seed what twice over the last five years. I just
(03:51):
would have to put the Chiefs one because part of
this is they have also been consistently good since Andy
Reid has been there and Veach has been there too. Now,
Veitch has only been the GM. I forget the exact
year he got it. Was it twenty seventeen or twenty
eighteen when he became the GM, But like I mean,
(04:11):
they've just had more success at the highest level than
the Ravens. You know, with this Lamar run, they have
won only a couple of playoff games, where the Chiefs
having just won playoff games, they've been winning Super Bowls
and last year to me kind of stamped it. I
mean the move they made trading Tyreek Hill and then
winning back to back Super Bowls and rebuilding their defense.
(04:34):
So I would have the Chiefs won just because, like
the body of work now is not as long as
the Ravens. But you know, Da Costa took over for
when Ozzie retired. Harbaugh's been there the majority of the time.
And let's face it, like where John Harbaugh come from.
Andy Reid obviously the Eagles, you know, and Howie and
(04:56):
their success over two decades, and Andy played a part
in that so I don't know if this is just
like present day. The Chiefs are also, I mean they're
three and oh one team's one and two, which obviously
the Ravens aren't your typical one and two team, neither
of the forty nine ers. But I got no issue
with it other teams like I would have the Packers
(05:18):
if we're just basing this on clearly just not today.
It's over a body of work. To me, the Packers
have to be above the Lions Seattle. I think John
Schnyder is one of the best GMS rams to you know,
the Bills. If it's just based on Brandon Bean and
Sean McDermott, their success speaks for themselves. I mean, the
(05:38):
draft pick of Josh Allen seems like a no brainer now.
It was not viewed that way at the time, and
I think I was fall under the category as like
that's kind of crazy. It's pretty bold. I mean, it's
one of the great draft picks of all time, especially
when you include like they trade it up really really far.
I think they traded with the Browns. I know you
don't cover baseball, but you did spend some time in
(06:00):
the Bay Area and with the Oakland A's recent departure.
I'd like to hear your thoughts about the East Bay
losing three professional sports team over the course of five years.
I'd also like to know if what is the appeal
of Vegas as a sports market. I can see how
an NFL team like the Raiders could make it work,
(06:20):
as an NFL game is a huge event, but for
a team like the A's that play eighty one home games,
I don't know it's going to be a great attraction
to Vegas. Well, it's all based on money, and you know,
I didn't just you know, live in the Bay Area.
I worked at a radio station for I don't even
(06:41):
know three and a half years that had the A's
and the Raiders and went up against the opposing station
that had the best properties the Niners and the Giants. Now,
the thing with football, like the Niners are much bigger
than the Raiders in the Bay Area and just in general,
and that just has to do. I mean, I saw
(07:01):
someone a meme about the last time the Raiders won
a playoff game. All these things didn't exist, and it's
been a long time. So obviously success plays a huge
part in it. But football's big and even a bad
football team matters. But for a radio property, for example,
and I could just use my experience. You know, football
(07:24):
games are on the weekend, right, so you get credit
for ratings Monday through Friday. Now, the benefit of having
a football team like can br in the Bay Areas,
they get Kyle Shanahan, they get John Lynch every week,
you know, and with the Raiders we got Derek Carr
and Charles Woodson like so you get guests like that.
That matters. But baseball is the more powerful radio property
(07:46):
because you get every day, you get a weekday game.
Now they're at night, but some of them are during
the day. You get a lot of day games when
they travel. It's powerful. And the A's history speaks for itself.
I mean they were a legendary franchise dynasty in the seventies.
They're one of the more popular teams of the eighties
with Ricky Henderson, Mark McGuire and jose Canseco and then
(08:07):
they made a movie about Billy Bean. But when we
had the A's they didn't rate at all. Nobody listened.
And this is not recently when they've sucked like they
were really good. They were competing to be the number
one seed and the Giants, now they had won some
World Series, but their teams were kind of hit or
miss during that time, crushed the A's. So I didn't
(08:30):
comment on social media or whatever, because my opinion isn't
gonna be that kind. I don't think there is a
market for the Warriors. Joe Laka bought the Warriors to
move them out of that arena and move them to
the city. But that was his number one goal gawn
like player acquisition, when he bought the team, was to
(08:53):
move them immediately. The Raiders a little more complicated. I mean,
they've been a pretty nomadic franchise. I mean, in my life,
they've been in what La, Oakland, and now Vegas. They've
been in three different places in a span of twenty
five years, so actually less than that because they ended
up moving in twenty twenty and when they moved back
(09:14):
to the Bay in ninety four, so you're talking about
twenty six years, three different cities. Now. The A's a
little more complicated. Obviously been there for a long time,
but I don't think they're financially viable there. Separate from
their owner, who he gets a lot of shit, he
won't spend any money. You know what my take's always been,
Even if he's spent money, I don't think it would work.
(09:36):
I don't think the way baseball is set up, it
is plausible to have two teams given the market conditions
of the Bay Area. The Giants suck out all the
oxygen and honestly, they're kind of struggling right now. And
I'm not talking on the field. I'm just talking about
the business dynamics of getting the investments. I actually think
(09:57):
the A's. My hot take is they'll never be in
Vegas because I don't think they make sense in Vegas.
But they're gonna work in Sack because the business community,
let's say, in the Bay Area, was not gonna give
the A's any money like they give the Giants, like
they give the Warriors, like they give the forty nine ers.
Like Ultimately, if Mark Davis had played at White right,
he would have had a chance because it's football. But
(10:20):
I think the money that they will get in Sacramento,
I mean, they're playing in a triple A stadium, but
I actually think that makes sense. Fifteen sixteen thousand people.
I think they will draw way more people the next
couple of years. And they ever have in the coliseum.
Here's the thing with the Colisseum. It's like no one's
showing up. I was going to games in twenty thirteen
and fourteen and fifteen again when they were good, like
(10:44):
they were hosting teams in the playoffs. They hosted the
Tigers in a game five with Verlander and Scherzer. Guess
what if you'd go to a day game or a
game during the week. Was no one there? This thing
like the brand had died a long time ago, despite
like Billy Bean and those guys being really good. But
I understand people being emotional. They're not like leaving the country.
(11:08):
They're just going an hour up the road. I mean,
I was born and raised in Davis, which is connected
by a causeway to Sacramento, which from where I grew up.
When the river Cats came to Sacramento, I don't know,
it was like it's longer now because traffic's a disaster now.
But I could go door to door in like fifteen minutes.
(11:28):
I think it's gonna work, I really do. And the
A's were just not a viable property anymore in the
Bay Area. The brand was toxic, the owner was toxic,
and the people had just tapped out and the Giants listen.
People don't like to hear this. Oakland people are sensitive
about this. But the ratio, and I've just seen it
(11:51):
from a number perspective. I worked in radio. I did
a lot of stuff in local TV at Comcast, which
had the properties. It's like a nine to one ratio.
The difference is like a Giants fan will not watch
the A's nobody watched them or listen to them. Football's different.
Even though forty nine Er fans vastly outnumber Raiders fans,
(12:15):
not just in northern California, in the state of California,
people will still watch random football games like the Raiders
playing the Broncos or whatever. When I lived there, like
people were still paying attention. That's not the case with baseball,
and I think there were a lot of different variables.
But some of the reaction which I get, people are
emotional about this stuff. It's been bad for a long
(12:38):
long time. I also think that there's something in sports
and you don't see this really anywhere. It's why people
laugh when, like, you know, if the Bears don't get
what they want, they could what leave. They're never leaving
the chiefs could they're not leaving, and we all know
that no one even those threats fall on deaf Ears fast,
(13:00):
where with the Oakland teams, it was like they could
leave and everyone knew they were serious. No, and even I,
like I pushed back against Vegas heavily with the Raiders.
It's the smartest thing anyone's ever done with that franchise.
So listen, I give more credit to Jerry Jones in
the league, but Mark was clearly on board with it.
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And financially it's taken them to another level because they
were drowning because the amount of money they were getting,
not just because of the stadium, but the businesses in
the Bay Area were not going to funnel them cash
like they would Jet in the forty nine ers, especially
once Jet built the stadium in twenty thirteen. So I
think it all boils down to economics. All this stuff
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is not that emotional. It's all about money. And listen,
you can talk shit about the owner being really cheap,
but like his franchise makes no money, and if he
would invested money, I don't think they would have made money.
I really don't. And I think it's gonna work in Sack.
I know it's gonna work in Sack. And my hot
take is they'll never end up in Vegas because Vegas
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if me and you owned a sports team right now
and had no connection to either Oakland will never have
another baseball you know, a Major League baseball team, an
NFL team, or a basketball team. Ever. Again, I'm talking
NBA every team. Like, when the NBA expands, do you
know where they're gonna expand Vegas?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Money? It's all about money. You've got the barrier has
a ton, Yeah, and the other two teams dominate that
cash flow. And once you get your hand in the
cookie jar, you don't want to share the cookies. And
Jed ain't sharing the cookies, and the giants ain't sharing
the cookies, and the people that have the cookies want
to give them the cookies. So it's like, it's harsh,
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it sounds bad. You'd be like middle Clock, You're just
a Niners giant sky. Yeah. I grew up that way,
so did most people my age in that area. And
this is not like just guessing this, Like I have
tangible data. I worked in a world where the numbers
matter and I saw it firsthand. I just did so
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It's sad, but it's also been inevitable. And I feel
like that that city, like in modern day the Internet era,
like those teams like Chicago would get a team whether
it was nineteen twenty or whether it was twenty twenty five.
San Francisco slash Shan Jose would get a team in
any era. Oakland would not. And in this modern day
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area with you know the listen their government, the local
government's a laughing sock. I mean a complete joke, not
just locally. I mean when I grew up like that
was like Jesus, fuck's going on in Oakland? And all
their owners had the same saying the same tunes. They
really did. So you can say John Fisher, super cheap guy,
(15:57):
wanted out, okay, Mark Davis, and Davis always bitched and moaned,
well what about Joe Lacam who is universally agreed upon
like a successful business man, wanted no part of it.
So again sounds harsh, and I understand if you're a
fan of the team, but that area is such a
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shithole where the colisseum An Oracle is no different than Candlestick.
Candlestick was bad, and what they do they moved him out,
and we can argue all day long. It sucks, especially
if you don't live down in that area too, if
you live in you know, the East Bay or San Francisco,
to have to drive down there, it sucks. But there
was a reason that they put dynamite around Candlestick and
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blew that fucking thing to Smith the Rens. They should
do the same thing to the coliseum in Oracle, blow
it up, because it's it's useless and it has been
for a long time. And the Colisseum, like Oracles, obviously
old and just outdated. The Colisseum is a relic.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I had a couple of people, I guess I mentioned
that the kicker for the Cowboys was the best kicker
in the league, and a couple of people were like,
what about Boswell? What about Budker? Like listen, guys, this
isn't quarterbacks. Like okay, Budger's better Boswell? Like we're not
no one's ranking kickers or punters. My point was simply,
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like the dude is an incredible story, was a college
soccer player and has transitioned and is clearly one of
the best kickers in the NFL. Is he one? Is
he four? I don't care, like we're not spending any
energy on ranking kickers, but we all agree he's really good.
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He's really good, And that was my point. So here's
a question. Is this Cowboys kicker we're trading for. That
guy consistently makes sixty yard field goals. Seems like a weapon.
Well why wouldn't the Cowboys won? Do you have? The
crazy part about the Cowboys is they trade for Trey
Lance a couple of years ago, which, let's face it,
(17:59):
Jerry was hoping to strike oil and get off Dak Prescott,
which actually worked in Dak's benefit. And to me, I
was thinking this last night when he signed the contract.
Can you imagine what that front office thought the moment
they saw that guy practice, Like, yeah, we're stuck with
Dak whatever he and that's why Dak ends up getting
two hundred twenty million dollars or whatever. But the Cowboys'
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third quarterback, Trey Lance, makes more than their backup quarterback
who he cannot beat out. And you could not play
a game if you had the choice, you would not
take Trey Lance over Cooper Rush in way more money
than their kicker, who is clearly a weapon. I got
no problem with guys underperforming that are starters or whatever,
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but there should be some sort of like when you're
like a backup and you don't play, your salary goes
into a pool and like the guy that's starting, like
gets some of your money. Because in what world does
Brandon Aubrey make eight hundred and ninety k and the
third string quarterback make five million dollars? And I understand
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these contracts are signed a long time ago, but if
I'm Cooper Rush, it's like, wait, I make half as
much as this guy. When if something happens to Dak
and it has before I've come in and I've manned
the ship. Kind of messed up economics on the Cowboys
huge Eagles fan hate house. Siriani has no other responsibilities
other than running the team and managing the game on Sundays,
(19:25):
and he's terrible at it. Do you think if he
was fired he would get a coordinator job? If not,
he just screams he needs to be gone. Do I
think he'd get a coordinator job. He was their coordinator
when they first hired him, and he demoted himself slash.
They devoted him for Shane Sichin and then the last
(19:47):
two years when Shane left, they hired another guy. They
fired that guy and they hired another guy. So his
own team is acknowledging. He cannot call plays his own
team and if you want to give him credit for
that himself as well. So why would another team, if
he gets fired, hire that guy. I know you're not
(20:08):
necessarily saying that, but long winded way of saying no,
under no circumstances would Nick Sirianni would be hired as
an offensive coordinator? How could you? He literally doesn't do
it for his own team. We can nitpick Shane Waldrin
or Lou Getzi or some of these guys that get
(20:28):
hired Alex van Pelt like once they get fired. But
they have been calling plays consistently, right, this guy does
not call plays. They don't let him do that. He
doesn't let himself do that. Is there? Any way? They
fire a mid season, go to Kellen Moore, and then
hire Bill in the offseason. Well, to me, Bill is
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a package deal. Whenever you do hire Bill, I think
he brings Josh, So I would be a little stunned
if he works with another offensive coordinator not named Josh McDaniels.
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Even in John for the Pod just turn twenty one.
Congratulations and driving out to meet my fam in lom
Poke Avla Beach yearly transition tradition. Have yourself a good
time from Marilyn and have been listening to you and
Colin for a while. I'm a Steeler fan and gotta
say I'm excited to see if Steve if Fields can
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beat that perfect Baker Gino role of sustainable and cheap
enough to build a dope roster. What say you on
all three quarterback situations peak play? Uh, Well, here's the thing.
When you pay a guide nothing like they did originally
(21:59):
with Gino, and like they did originally with Baker, and
then you have a successful season with that guy, right
like last year the Tampa did with Baker a couple
of years ago they did with Gino Smith, you then
have to pay them like Baker was a free agent,
so you either let him walk or you give them
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like what they did one hundred million bucks. You know
Gino got less than that, but Gino still, what does
Geno make thirty million dollars a year twenty five minutes.
It's not like he makes two So at the end
of the year it feels just has a solid season
and you guys win the division, win twelve games. It's
not like you just get to keep Field for four
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million dollars. Now, it's not like he makes fifty million dollars.
But what do you do? Do you franchise tag him?
Do you just give him? Try to give him the
Baker contract? Is he cool accepting that? That's where it
gets complicated. And I don't know the answer to that.
I would say this, I'll take Geno and Baker. When
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those guys make the contracts they make relatively cheap. You're
only stuck with for a couple of years. You know,
Gino makes less guaranteed than Daniel Jones. You know Baker
makes a little bit more. But like, if you can
function this year with Fields, I can give him that contract.
I cannot unless he takes gigantic strides. Once you start
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getting into that kind of TUA world and above, then
we got major question marks. Like to me, once I
start going one hundred and fifty million guaranteed and above,
you got to be able to carry the team. And
I mean, I have a lot of respect for the organization,
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but let's call a spade a spade. I mean they're
being carried by their defense. It's not like they're scoring
a ton of touchdowns here. And he's played good. He's
been better this year than he was for the Bears.
And I think he mentioned I saw I was at
the gym and I saw it on the TV. They
showed like Cam Hayward's podcast he was on, and he
must have made a comment about like he likes the
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coaching style more in Pittsburgh than he did in Chicago,
which obviously helps big Commanders fan question about our old
offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. Obviously, he's great coach and is
one with quarterbacks like Garoppolo and now Party, who I
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think is a good, great quarterback. But do you think
in the back of his mind when he gets in
these games and looks at the other sideline and sees
a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes, first round quarterbacks loaded
with physical traits, he is rolling with a seventh rounder.
He feels like he's stuck in quarterback purgatory. My guess
(24:51):
is in twenty twenty, the forty nine Ers were coming
off a Super Bowl loss, They had a bunch of injuries,
and they had an awful season. It ended up leading
them to.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Is that what led them to Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
No, maybe Nick Bosa was already on the team. They
might have led them to McGlinchey. I forget, But they
were just really, really bad in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
What was the pick? Maybe they traded Buckner.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I don't know, I forget. I'm all that feels like
a long time ago. Oh, that led them to Trey Lance.
That's what it did. That led so to the twenty
twenty season. They ended up with the twelfth pick. They
traded up to get Trey Lance in the twenty twenty
one draft. I was thrown off of my years in
that season. Toward the end of the year, San Jose
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had the most draconian COVID rules in the history of
the world, and the forty nine ers got kicked out
of the Bay Area, so they had to come to Arizona.
A couple of years later, your boy followed them, and
so the last I don't know five six games of
the year they were here, they played home games in
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Era Zona because of the rules. This is the fall
of twenty twenty. We're so insane in Santa Clara County
that they just packed up and left and bid Well's like,
you can come use my stuff. And that year, toward
the end of the year, sometime in December, I forget too,
might have been like week twelve or thirteen or fourteen,
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they played Josh Allen and he wasn't great. I mean,
he looked like Mahomes and this was a young version
of Josh Allen. And I think that really hit Kyle
like we need to be aggressive and go get something.
And Jimmy was still on the team, but Jimmy was hurt,
and they traded for Trey Lance, who was a physical
trade guy, and it blew up in their face. So
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I think once you have the experience of having something
like that blow up in your face, like yeah, he
would love Josh Allen or Mahomes. But I think, and
I'm guilty of this too, those guys are so rare,
Like everyone wants those guys, like right, even the good
teams like the Steelers, Like just look at all the
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other good teams in the NFL. The Lions have Jared GoF,
They love him, they would love they would take Josh
Allen over him in a New York minute, But it's
hard to get those guys. And let's face it, there
is an element in the draft, whether you trade up
or are drafting high and you take them that you
just kind of keep your fingers crossed that it works.
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So I think, yes, would he rather have Mahomes or
Josh Allen than Purty, of course, but I think after
the Trey Lance experience, I think he feels pretty grateful
and lucky to have a guy that he knows that
he can win with and he's prett damn good. My
question is what advice would you give someone on negative comments.
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I have a Ravens podcast with my dad called Ravens
Flock Talk, and we can have some controversial takes. That's
always been my premise since day one. Dude to how
passionate we are. There are no pomp pom to if
someone isn't playing or coaching. Well, it started as a
fun project, bonding among with my dad. It's cool you
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got a podcast with your dad, talk and ball. We
went from thirty two followers last year to over one
point five k rookie numbers to my haters, but this
is with no content in the off seasons. However, now
I can't help but to respond to the trolls and
hate because it gets to be too much. Maybe I
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focus too much on the negative comments first the positives.
But because I record the videos and it takes a
lot of work to edit, I simply have my heart
in this hold myself to a standard which doesn't seem
appreciated at times if someone disagrees or proceeds to make
things personal, which I retaliate hard to zone it out.
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I guess I've just been doing this long enough and
have heard everything like to me comments on the internet.
Obviously I appreciate any positive comments, but if you're gonna
read the positive comment, you're also gonna read the negative
comments because it's unavoidable, and I don't know, maybe I've
just I don't mean it's gonna come off wrong, because
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I appreciate anyone who watches or listens, because times the
most valuable asset we have, and in what I do,
getting other people's time is obviously the business I'm in.
So if you're gonna watch it, whether you hate me
or like me, I do appreciate it. But one thing,
as I've gotten older doing this, comments mean nothing to me.
I mean, they really don't, and partly because you can't
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read them without seeing negatives, and you just have to realize,
like no matter what you do, it's the Internet, right,
so you're gonna see shit that is just bad. And
I guess I've gotten to the point a long time
ago where it just doesn't mean anything to me. I
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don't let it emotionally, or try not to. We're all
human beings. But one I don't try to look into
like you know. One thing I've done is i've gotten older,
is I've deleted Twitter on my phone. I don't have
it for a couple of reasons. One obviously I like
getting my news and stuff, but do I need to
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see everyone I follows opinion on everything all the time,
Like why do I need all this in my brain?
And two it's really hard to not see just like
you're you know, to go to your replies and see
what people are saying, and let's just face it, it's
gonna tend to be negative. And I think the you
either do two things. You either learn how to realize
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like listen if more and more people are listening, like
that is what matters. What ultimately I care about is
you're growing. And if you're growing and people like it
and you like what you're doing, and I listen, I
don't know if it's a side project. If you can
make any money off it, like that's all that matters, right,
because comments are such a small subset. I learned this
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in radio, that like don't let a packed phone line.
This is back, you know, And I guess some radio
stations still do this, but like take phone calls you
could have. You could do a topic and the phone
lines light up, and let's say there are nine lines
where people can call into and you can think this
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is an incredible polarizing topic, and then you get the
ratings three weeks later and you're like, no one was
actually listening. And I think comments can work like that
in this business. It's why I think overall the media
it's weird, Like they tend to hate Elon. Obviously there
are political reasons for that. You know, he feels right wing.
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They are they're not Democrat, they're like hardcore left. Yet
they are obsessed with his app in Twitter, and they've
loved it for fifteen years and most of them spend
a lot of time on there. And I think it
can really jade you because it is a negative place
and if you just want to sit in negativity, like
you said, you struggle with it and listen, I'm not
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acting like I haven't before in the past, and every
once in a while fall into that trap. But you
realize none of it matters. None of it matters. I mean,
it's completely irrelevant. You could spend all day, every day
responding to negativity on the internet. You literally could spend
your entire day. It's like like one thing I've learned
(32:30):
not to, you know, pat myself on the back. But
early on in Twitter, I had to have an opinion
on everything. Now it's like, in what world do I
want to waste any energy arguing with people I don't know,
I don't give a shit about they might hate me
on the internet. Why do I care over like whatever
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you name it any Caitlin Clark's recent controversy, Like is
it actually a controversy or they are just a bunch
of angry people on the internet screaming back and forth
at each other that represent a tiny, tiny subset of
human beings and most people. I always sometimes if you
just scroll on the Internet and you're like, God, everyone's
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so angry, and then you just do something in the
real world, like just I don't know, go to the
gym or go out to eat and everyone's like smiling
and friendly. You're like I thought everyone's really angry. You're like, actually,
you just turn off your phone, and that's not the
real world. And I think one benefit anyone of I
don't know that's over thirty years old would have is
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definitely if you're my age closer to forty and kind
of grown up in both worlds of pre internet, post Internet,
and just seeing the social media part of the Internet
the entire time, I can't imagine being like fifteen years
old on this if I had a young daughter a
young son on social media, like that would be really
really hard because it'd be im possible to have any
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perspective of like, this isn't the end all be all.
If anything, it's doesn't matter because that's ultimately my take.
It does not matter one who gives a shit if
someone's talking shit about your take. If anything, you want
them to interact, right, But at the end of the day,
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you can't make everybody happy. And definitely when it comes
to the Internet on comments, so I think the faster
you learned, the only thing that matters is you do
what you like. To me, the number one thing that
is successful in the world of content creation whether that's
YouTube people, podcasters, whatever, is just authenticity. People aren't going
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to agree with everything you say. Welcome to life. So
it's like, if you believe it and you're not just
faking it, who cares? You know, Listen, people are gonna
think I'm a whack job. Sometimes I've never made up
a comment here, Like, I only say what I believe.
Sometimes I'll be right, sometimes I'll be wrong. I thought
the Bears probably be pretty good. I thought the Steelers
(35:07):
would suck. Probably wrong on both right. But I didn't
just say that because I was like, you know, maybe
I could stroke the fleemes of the Steelers fan base.
I don't really give a shit. If I truly cared,
maybe I'm doing this wrong. I talk about the Cowboys
open up the show basically every single podcast. We obviously
don't do that. I'll talk about them when they matter,
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they play a game, like last night, We're gonna open
the show with them. But I don't just be authentic.
Do what you do and kind of let the chips
fall where they may. Congrats on building a little podcast.
It's also sports, and people are very emotional about that.
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So people get worked up, right when you say something
bad about someone that they like. It's just comes with
a territory. What do you think about Quinn Ewers as
an NFL prospect? He was granted as one of the
(36:12):
best quarterback prospects of all time coming out of high school,
but it feels like he is underachieved relative to that ranking.
The injury bug has gotten to him each year as
a starter. To me, that's the biggest question mark because
I thought in that Michigan game he looked like an
NFL player. I did not believe that the previous year
he looked like listen, Michigan is not twenty twenty three, Michigan.
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They're still gonna win. They're gonna go like nine and four,
and they got NFL guys all over the place, and
he was brilliant in that game. So I was like, damn, okay,
I might have to look at this guy a little differently.
And then he gets injured, and like you said, he
gets injured all the time. So that to me, he
clearly was playing at a higher level this year, which
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is normal young player. You get better, but you gotta
be able to stay on the field. And now we
have a short sample size, but he gets injured a
lot he really does, and let's face it, weird spot
for Sark, weird spot for Sark. What if I almost
say to Eli, what if Arch just plays well, you
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just bench him because he's cool with it. I don't know,
it's I think it's a complicated factor here, and I
think everyone just assumes they're going to just go back
to Quinn yard maybe but maybe not. We've seen crazier
in college. In the pros, sometimes you get injured. A
guy comes in, whether he's got hype or not, and
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he never comes out so he can make the throws surgical,
intermediate to short passing game. However, he does have a
bad habit of throwing random interceptions. Also, how do you think? Yeah,
I think it's a fascinating to you know scenario. I
think if Arch, depending on how this injury goes, but
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makes it to the Oklahoma game, then plays, well, there,
you're gonna bench him after that. This notion of like
can never lose your job to injury, Like we threw
that thing in the trash decades ago. You can get
this is bottom line business now. People getting paid a
lot of variables here. I would not bet the farm
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that we just see Quinn Ewers again, we might maybe
we do. Maybe Arch turns out like he plays against Oklahoma,
he would struggle because their defense is really good. A
big fan twenty three years old, been a Browns fan
my entire life. Curious on your take with the Deshaun
Watson situation. I know we're gonna be in cap hell,
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but the way he is playing, you have to sit
him down after a while, right. I fear that we
keep throwing him out there. Not only will he lose
the locker room, but a lot of these guys like
Miles Chubb Amari Ward are gonna want out. Yeah. I
think the hard part about the NFL is you're kind
of stuck. You know this. This is not the NBA
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where guys just you know a Mari's been traded for
a reason. He's kind of a polarizing player. It's weird,
like he is good, but he's not great, but he
makes a lot of money. But like Miles Garrett's gonna
want out. Okay, what if they say no? You know,
in these other sports, like they always acquiesce to your demands,
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and football that's not really the case. You know, I
only trade you when I want to trade you too,
So people like, that's not fair to say, well, that's
kind of the business.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
This is not like Kevin Durants, like I'm ready for
a new place. They're like, Okay, where do you want
to go? That's not really the way it works. But
this Deshawn's situation. They play the Raiders this week. Max
Crosby's banged up, and you can't beat the Raiders. It's
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gonna be a long year, man, it really is. I
think it's must win just to kind of quiet people down.
But you could say the same thing about the Raiders
kind of must win for them. This is just a
must win for two bad teams. This is a game
that I probably I'll have a one of the boxes,
but I made a pack with myself, Like I Deshaun
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Watson is just an awful watch. The Raiders are not
a great watch either. But I do like a good
train wreck, so I'll be paying attention to this. I
know this, Cleveland fans. You lose this game, looks like
you've got no chance of the playoffs. Your quarterback's awful,
you feel stuck with them. Gonna get weird. Man. I
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have a question, isn't the narrative that Mahomes won the
last two Super Bowls with no weapons. False. I mean,
obviously in the NFC, the Eagles and Niners and Lions
had better weapons. But if you look at the true
contenders in the AFC the last two seasons, the Bills,
the Ravens, and the Bengals, I don't think the gap
between their weapons and the Chiefs weapons was big. I mean,
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Kelsey is dramatically better player than Diggs, especially in the playoffs.
Rice is at least as good as Cape Davis, and
I don't see a big difference between Pacheco and Cook.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I think it's more that they just traded like this
all time great wide receiver in Tyreek Hill, which we
all agree with. Tyreek Hill is an elite player, and
they just patchworked and they were fine. Like you said,
I mean, Travis Kelce is the greatest pass catching tight
end in the history league. Isaiah Pacheco, it was clear
pretty early like this guy is a high end starting
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running back. Rice wasn't on the team two years ago.
So as a rookie, yeah, he was good, but he
wasn't on the team that won it.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
To who they played two years ago? Who the Chiefs
playing the Super Bowl. Why am I forgetting this? They
played the Niners? How am I blanking on this? They
beat the Bengal Oh they played the Eagles. My mind going, yeah,
they played the Eagles. That was the controversial Actually, Bradberry said,
(42:22):
I committed paster interference, but that was where Andy had
some play calls that people were not happy with Jonathan
Gannon in Philly. I think it's more that like back
to back years he's beaten because you're right, the AFC,
that Ravens team, you know, z Flowers, a rookie. Lamar
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was the MVP, but it was a bad MVP year.
Mark Andrews was injured, likely still a young ascending player.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
But I think back to back Super Bowls he beat
Jalen Hurts, who was an MVP candidate with A J. Brown,
DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard, and then last year he beats
Brock Purty who was also an MVP candidate with Deebo,
Samuel Brandon, Au, Christian McCaffrey, and George Kittle. Like, I
think we have to acknowledge in those two games that
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if you flip flop the quarterbacks then it wouldn't even
be Can you imagine Patrick mahomes like AJ Brown, DeVante
Smith and Dallas Goddard, or with Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle, Brandon,
I you Christian McCaffrey and Juwan Jennings. I mean, I
think that's that's the conversation. But on the totality of it,
he's got a great defense. So if you've got a
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great defense and you're a good quarterback, your team's gonna
be good. If you get a great defense and you
give me Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott, it's a playoff team.
If you give me a great defense and you give
me an all time great quarterback, it's immediately a Super
Bowl contender. So I hear what you're saying and who's
really pushing that narrative. Also, okay, last question from the
(44:03):
UK Love the pod. I'll be heading to the Bears
Jags game in London and have been for the last
few years. My question is how long do you think,
if ever, we will see a Super Bowl in London.
It seems like every year there are more and more
games over here. You know one thing, I'm not very connected.
(44:24):
I mean, I don't have any connections like with the
league office, people that run the business angles of these decisions,
which obviously starts with rog and kind of his crew.
I think there's a big difference in having expanded international games,
which the league has done. Right, Brazil this year, Germany
(44:46):
last year? Are they going to Germany again? This year?
They've gone to Mexico City, Like they've made a very
very conscious effort expanding internationally. World is flat. I get it, though,
even if I disagree, like that game did not need
to be in Brazil, But that's another conversation for a
different day. In having the Super Bowl there, So my
(45:10):
uneducated in the sense that I don't have inside information
on this, but my guess of just following this league
as closely as I do, I'd be a little stunned
if for the foreseeable future of the Super Bowls aren't
held in America, and specifically, like, why don't we just
do the rotation, which makes a lot of sense La Scottsdale,
(45:34):
New Orleans, Miami in Vegas. Vegas last year was cool.
Vegas is now in that rotation, But I don't think
that one like the other rule I guess is if
you get a new stadium, you're supposed to get the
Super Bowl, right Minnesota, Atlanta, San Francisco, Like when they
(45:56):
got their new stadiums, I got a Super Bowl. I
don't think any anyone would complain if you just tip
the main just worked your way west east. So far Scottsdale, Vegas,
New Orleans, Miami. Who's pushing back on that? I don't
(46:17):
think anybody. And the reality is, like who really goes
to the Super Bowl? I mean it's not a huge
contingent of people minus the media, Like this isn't one
of those I mean, millions of people aren't attending this thing.
So to me, to make it to places where you
(46:38):
would want to go where a lot of fun stuff's
going on. Like listen, I like Scottsdale more than Vegas.
But Vegas is a better super Bowl set up than here.
Their stadium is right by the Strip. That's a bright
light events town. I mean in Scottsdale, the stadium's out
in bf E. Everyone is hunkered down in old town Scottsdale.
(47:02):
You know, it's kind of spread out. San Francisco is
the same way, LA is the same way. Would anyone
complain if they're like for the next five years and
super Bowl is gonna be in Vegas? I would doubt it.
I really would. If Roddge's announced for five straight years
Super Bowl in Vegas, I think the complaints would add
(47:25):
up to zero. And I'm not counting people on the internet.
I'm counting on people league employees, people that are going
to attend no matter what you know. Obviously, if you
work around football, if you cover football all the networks,
I think there would be zero complaints. As someone that
just has only been there a couple of times and
(47:46):
it's cool, like Miami's pretty badass, but same type. Do
you a little spread out which listen, depending on who
you are. I'm not complaining about stuff being spread out,
but I would just put Vegas on scholar ship. That's
my personal opinion. The volume
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Mm hmm
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