October 1, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin gives the Lions offense credit for a shootout win over the Seahawks but explains why he still can't trust Detroit as a serious Super Bowl contender. He ranks his top 10 NFL teams after week 4 in the Herd Hierarchy. Plus, Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez joins the show in studio to tell Colin if Caleb Williams has made any progress as an NFL QB after 4 starts
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh it's a Tuesday lot to talk about live in
Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Jmac, I don't know how I'm supposed
to feel about Detroit last night. Geno Smith almost forty
first downs, Seattle's missing all for their best defensive players
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up front, then two others get injured and Seattle made
a fight.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I think I came out of that game respecting Seattle
more than I did liking Detroit more, which is a
weird feeling. The great Peak Hall of Famer Hits King
passes away. We'll talk about that. We got Nick right,
Mark Sanchez, Jalen Johnson, the Bear stopping by. But last
night I came out of that game with weird vibes.
That's interesting. I thought you would watch Miami and have
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weird vibe. Unwatchable boy two of looks valuable, doesn't he.
So Detroit wins forty two to twenty nine. The Lions
score forty two points. Jared Goff goes eighteen for eighteen,
and I'm sitting there thinking, man, Detroit's got red flags everywhere.
So Gino Smith had thirty eight first downs. He engineered
thirty eight first downs That's the most ever in the
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history of the league for a losing team. Now, maybe
Gino's better than I give him credit for. He's certainly
a B quarterback. He's capable, has a good arm, and
he has tremendous backs tight end wide receiver talent. But
they marched up and down the field on Detroit, and
basically Seattle was in a hole from the beginning. They
were chasing him. Detroit knew they had to chase. So
that's an advantage for the defense. And I look around
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the NFL right now, and all the good teams play
pretty good defense. Minnesota does, San Francisco does, and Baltimore does,
and Buffalo does. Except for Monday Night and Sunday Night
and Kansas City does. And so I'm looking at all
these teams that are pretty good in the NFL. Houston does,
and I'm thinking and Detroit's defense I don't trust at all.
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That was a home game, a huge home Monday night
football game. Seattle is not getting the whistle. DK metcalf
conversion should have counted, two point conversion didn't. Seattle's trailing
the entire game, and Seattle's doing whatever they want offensively,
like whatever they want. So that's the first thing that
concerns me. Secondly, Detroit's in this transition stage. Like Dan
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Campbell created a tough culture and deserves respect, but he's
got a transition from raw, raw guy to situationally elite
guy like an Andy Reid. Because my question is, why
is that game close? Why are you throwing out of
the end zone with a lead late and getting a safety.
You got to get past all the tough, raw raw
guy stuff. You know, I understand it. Everybody loves it,
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bite kneecaps. He created it. I get it. I respect it. Okay,
now it's time to transition to a smarter football team.
And it feels like too often when I watched Detroit,
and they were so bad for so long. I understand
this is tough. They're finally winning, and they're kind of giddy.
The fans are giddy. The media is giddy in Detroit,
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like we're winning. Okay, that's great. Now you're consistently winning.
Now it's the pivot. You've come a long way. You're
like the family member that finally got their act together.
Everybody's happy for them, but you still wouldn't trust them
taking your kids to Disneyland. That's what the Lions have become. Hey, congratulations,
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you're not vaping anymore. But I would appreciate it if
every time you come over, you don't go into a
thirty minute lecture on crypto. Like we all are rooting
for Detroit. We all like Detroit, we all think it's great.
But I wouldn't trust them. I can't trust them. I'm
they're not taking my kids to Disneyland. I just don't
trust them. And that's where I am. And they're in
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this raw, raw stage. And while they're fun and goff
is this and I mean, they're hard not to like.
And maybe we'll know the truth about Detroit pretty soon
because if you look at their schedule they got an
early buy. So Detroit goes into the by and then
their schedule is pretty brutal at Dallas, at Minnesota, at
Green Bay, at Houston. Jacksonville may have their act together
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by then, so maybe that's it. But run the clock out.
How are you getting a safety? What are you doing?
It may not matter against an injury depleted Seahawk team
at home on Monday night. It's gonna matter against San
Francisco if you're on the road, or a playoff game
against Minnesota when you're on the road, Like clean it up.
The raw. Raw stuff was fun, it was great. We're
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all rooting for you. But I watched that game, and
I think I was more impressed with what Seattle did
on the road with Gino. Five hundred sum yards, thirty
eight first downs, missing their four bet defensive players in
the box. Here's Dan Campbell after every.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Week's going to be different, you know, this was this
was a little bit of a track meet, whereas you know,
these first few games have been more of these low
score on our defense has been able to score twenty points.
You're winning, you know, and so every game is different.
You find a way to win. The one in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know what, every game kind of looked the same
when the Patriots had a dynasty, and every Chiefs game
sort of looks the same, And though the outcomes can
be different, every Ravens game sort of feels the same.
If your team looks different every week, it lacks a consistency,
a consistency that teams that Hoyst trophies have. The Chiefs
games all look the same. New England's game forever looked
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the same, even the Ravens game, had they not blown
that lead to the Raiders, they were leading late, like
they all kind of look. You get that dynamic offense,
you get speed, you get aggressiveness, you get good coaching,
you get toughness. Know what I get with Detroit? They
won and I saw red flags, all right the Jets.
Things now getting weird. So Robert Sala has only coached
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Aaron Rodgers officially for what five games, and he's learning
what Matt Lafleur and Mike McCarthy found out. Aaron's gonna
do what Aaron wants to do, and if you push
back on him, he's gonna call you out. Okay, but
it's important, this is an important reality in this relationship.
It was never balanced. You know, you've all seen the
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marriage where she's rich, he isn't. He's rich, she isn't.
It's not balanced. Personalities aren't balanced. So Aaron comes into
this relationship in New York. Aaron's a winner and the
Jets are perpetual losers. Aaron's a Hall of Famer first ballot,
rich and successful. Robert sala isn't isn't instant. Aaron's West
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Coast California cool. The Jet it sort of New York messy.
And so this relationship, and there's a distinction. You don't
have to be best friends. Brady and Belichick, we're not
best friends. But there's gotta be mutual respect. And I
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have three instances this year, two of them at the
mic where I have sensed there isn't a lot of respect.
And we've always known two words with Aaron prickly and moody.
That's not my opinion. Ask his family. It's well documented.
It's in books. He's prickly and he's moody, and he
pushes back quickly, and they'll often do it publicly when
he's ticked off, to call you out. So I thought
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this was really interesting. Yesterday A former Jet quarterback and
former MVP for the Bengals, Boomerosiasin's on a popular radio
show in New York WFAN Morning Show, and he noticed
something because he's been in this situation in his life.
And you know, this is local radio generally speaking. You know,
it's kind of favorable to the home team and the
home stars. I get that done. That get that. I
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thought Bloomer called out something, and something I hadn't paid
a lot of attention to. He had, And this is interesting.
I try to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
To see if I see any interactions on the sideline
or anything. Nothing not that I see a guy walking
right past the other guy. I can't imagine that. Now,
Bultwall deny it. I guarantee it. But there is an
issue there, and it's because you have this forty year
old Hall of Fame quarterback to be dealing with a
coach that I think he doesn't respect.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And again, Prickly and Moody, that's okay for a linebacker
and a tight end. But Aaron's the savior of the franchise. Again,
it came in unbalanced. Aaron was going to save the
franchise from these losing coaches and losing coordinators and losing
owner and losing fans unbalanced, and now you're kind of
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pushing back on Aaron and his cadence, and Aaron's thinking privately, hell,
you talking about who are you? What's your record? What's mine?
Where's your trophy? I get it, the ego, I get it.
But when it leaks out publicly, that's what you've always
had the deal with Aaron. Lafleur felt it, McCarthy felt it.
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And by the way, you get two, you get two errands.
So when Aaron's happy, he's the best, He's the best
player in the league at the mic. And we saw
that after the win over New England. This is the
good erin joyful smiling, everybody's on board. Here's the good
erin after a win.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
It's easier when you're kind of getting kicked in the
teeth to kind of come together. It's us against the world,
it's us against the big bad media who's saying how.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Bad we are.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
You know, we can kind of come together, But can
you still come together and have the same approach when
everybody's kind of starting to sing your praises a little bit?
I think that's the mark of a great team, is
can you handle the success part with the same focus,
the same mentality, the same mindset, the same energy. When
you're starting to get on a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Role, I get behind that guy, good looking, charismatic, smart,
like I get behind that guy. I like that guy.
But as we know, and it's documented, Aaron turns fast,
gets dark, prickly, moody fast, and here's Aaron. A week later,
the Cayden specifically, Robert said, that might be something you've
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asked have to dial back a little bit. Is that
something you think could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
That's fun way to do it. The other ways hold
them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've
had one false start. Morgan had one false start, I
believe until this so you know, it's been a weapon.
We use it every day in practice. We don't you know,
we rarely have a false start, and to have I
don't know five today, it seemed like four or five. Yeah,
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it's and it seems like an out there I don't
know if we need to make mass changes.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's like a different guy. But I get it. This
all goes back to bringing in Aaron to be the savior.
This was never a balance relationship. Ever, never was you
were asking him to save a losing franchise, losers trying
to be saved by a winner. And so when the
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losers start criticizing the winner, what do you think the
winner's gonna think? Dude, I got a three hundred million
dollar networth, I got trophies, I'm first ballot. You guys
aren't gonna have a job in six weeks. Losers grab
give up draft capital money for a winner. Winner doesn't
want to hear from losers how to get it right.
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I'm sorry, that's the reality. This was not a balance relationship.
So if they go to London and get waxed, you're
not getting happy erin you get into these relationships, it's
I mean, you're seeing it in Cleveland, all sorts of
different stuff. But desperate franchise go guarantee star quarterback, it
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goes south, and star quarterback, rich quarterback looks at losing
franchise and starts pointing fingers. So there is you know,
I get Aaron looking around, going you have a problem
with my cadence. I'm the best Cadence guy in the
history of the league. Aaron leads the NFL all time
in free play touchdowns, meaning he gets people to jump
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off sides. He reads it, sees it free play. He's
the best ever at that. And now the Jets are going, hey,
you know we don't like the way you do cadence.
Excuse me, I'm the greatest cadence quarterback in the history
of the league. I don't even think we argue about that.
Aaron is that the prettiest ball, the best cadence guy
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in the league. And the losers are telling them the
winner they don't like his cadence. I mean, listen, I
sit on the stage all the time, and you think
I hate Aaron, But he's the winner. He came in
as the savior. And if you're a coach with a
losing record and you start pointing fingers, hey, I don't
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like the way. Hey, I don't like the way you lose. Hey, owner,
I don't like the way you're impulsive, Hay offensive coordinator GM.
This this is an unbalanced relationship, Jamak. I know you
thought I was coming in glass half full guy, but
I think boomerisias and I think he's onto something.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Yeah, Boomer Sison watching this show yesterday when we went
after this same discussion, Rogers Versala just disappointing. Now he
wants to pile on for like, you know, the New
York meat balls.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Listening to the radio, Why don't he stinking Rogers they
lost for the BRONC. I don't think that that's on
that listen.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
That's what they do. They try to stir drama. It's
understandable that listen. I was, I was a website owner.
I had a business, I sold it. I know what
it takes to stir up trouble, and that's what Boomer
Size is doing.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think I think he's being very authentic and honest
with what he sees as a former great quarterback. I
don't I don't think he's like typical guy. I think
played the position, knows the position, watches every snap. I mean,
let's be honest. Boomer will probably be a practice or
something with Aaron Rodgers. He didn't want to call him out.
I'm on a stage where I never seen ninety nine
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percent of these guys. If you're banging on error Judge,
if you work in New York, you'll see her in
Judge in the batting cage. So I don't know, you
think it's stirring it up. I look at that, and
I think, oh, that's interesting play. The position knows the position,
watches the position. Also, when you work in a local market,
you do have an advantage. You know your feet are
on the ground in the local market. You have salespeople,
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front office people. You're seeing him out the dinner. You've
got great connections. I don't know, I think it's something
if he's saying that, I don't you think it's stirring
the pot.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
I keep the same energy when the Jets meet the
Vikings in London to see that. That's all I'm saying, Boomer,
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You are funny, not if when coming up next, the
guys before us were arguing about this, it's funny. Uh,
the biggest quarterback mess is not New York, it's Pittsburgh.
It was totally predictable. We'll talk about that next Nick
right top of the hour.
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's Tuesday. It's time. I heard Hierarchy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Heard Hierarchy.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Time.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College
Number ten.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I thought Seattle, missing their four best defensive linemen, looked great.
Gino Smith, that dude throws a beautiful ball, is totally
in tune with DK Metcalf. I like their running backs.
I mean, I'm sorry. Gino leads the NFL in passing
yard second and completion percentage. Kenneth Walker. I was blown away.
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Seattle didn't have their four best defensive lineman against the
best O line in the league. You knew they wouldn't
make stops. I thought Gino was exceptional on a Monday
night on the road. Seattle at ten, number nine Texans
only loss came on the road to the Vikings. They
got housed. Didn't have Joe Mixon, but their top eight
de offense, top five defense, and I love CJ. Stroud
X coming back listen.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
C J.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Strout is a young quarterback. To see Caleb Williams this
week when he got a run game with de Andre Swift. Oh,
Caleb look pretty good as good as c J. Stroud is,
and he's got his weapons like Nico Collins. Young quarterbacks especially,
they need their running backs. Joe Mixon returns. I like
Houston nine, number eight the Packers. It's weird They're zero
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and two with Jordan Love and two and zero without him.
They do lead the NFL in big plays. I like
all their structure. Listen, Jordan Love hasn't taken a lot
of snaps because of the injury, and he's not he's
not quite ready to go. Second half the offense look
better than the first half. They lead the NFL in
takeaway So Green Bay is a feisty, aggressive defense, which
is what their fans have been complaining about for years.
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How come the defense can't be as good as the offense.
I still think Green Bay is an ascending team. It
is a young team with a quarterback that comes in rusty.
They're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Number seven.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know what to do with the Commanders, but
they're breaking every single NFL record offensively. Jaden Daniels, we
thought he was gonna be like Lamar Jackson. Light is
he or is he just Lamar Jackson? I mean, kids incredible.
I just read here this morning. He has five total
touchdowns and six complete incompletions over the last two games.
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I do think the Cliff Kingsbury oc higher. And we
predicted this. We thought Washington would be a playoff team.
I think all flushing out the bad vibes, the bad
owner bring it an entirely new organization in owner down
for the first time in a decade, everything is good
vibes and positivity. I don't know where it lands. I
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don't know when the regression is coming. But I thought
Arizona was one of the better sides of the week,
and they blew him out in Arizona. Put Washington at
seven number six. I know they won last night, but
that defense on the back end, Jared Goff once again
is the strength of a team, and nobody wants to acknowledge.
In the last two weeks, he's completing eighty eight percent
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of his throws. They've got an over the top receiver,
they have omar On Saint Brown, they have two backs.
I like a great offensive line. Don't trust Dan Campbell
in situational football. But here's the reality with Detroit. It
is hard not to be a good team when you
have a dominating running game and a dominating O line
in a very capable super Bowl quarterback. They're just gonna
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win a lot of games. They're gonna mash a lot
of people, and it's not always going to be pretty.
I have Detroit at six, number five Buffalo. Now they're
getting some of their linebackers who were injured back. They
were a mess this past week and they ran into
a buzzsaw. It's called Lamar Jackson. He does that at
home a lot. He blew out the Niners and the
Lions last year in Miami. I'm not selling my Buffalo stock.
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I think they have offensive balance between Kincaid and James Cook.
The rookie receiver looks special to me. I think Buffalo
is gonna be fine. They've been a roller coaster for years.
All Kansas City games look the same, Buffalo doesn't. Buffalo's
a little Dallas cowboy. They're a little Mike Tyson knockout
or unraveling. That's kind of their DNA. I still think
they're good. Buffalo five, number four San Francisco. So now
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they're getting their guys back, Debo and Kittle. They don't
have Christian McCaffrey, but the reality is they leave the
NFL in time of possession, it's still Shanahan, Purdy, Debo, Kittle,
I you Jennings, come on. When this team is healthy
whe or without Christian McAffrey, it's a really good football team.
And again. Fred Warner is playing linebacker at a level
we have not seen for a long long time. San
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Francisco at four, number three. I'll never sell my Ravens stock.
I'll never sell it. They look like the fastest team
in the league. If Kansas City's got the fastest defense,
they have the fastest offense. And he may never beat
Patrick Mahomes number one total offense. With Derrick Henry now
number one rushing offense, They're not very good on the
back end. Everybody's got a flaw. You start paying your
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quarterback huge money. Everybody's got a hole. The Chiefs have
a wide receiver hole now with Rashid Rice. Ravens have
a little bit of a hole. I like Kyle Hamilton.
Maybe they have a cornerback issue, but I'm not selling
my stock. Derrick Henry leads the league in rushing with
Lamar Baltimore or Buffalo literally looked like they were waving
the flag Monday night, like they had zero answers nine
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yards of play Number two Minnesota. I don't think it's
a fluke. I didn't buy into the Saints. I'm not
sure if I bought into the Jets after they beat
New England. I buy into this team. Everything works. They're
defensive coordinators excellent, their special teams are consistent, their offense
is amazing. They have the tall Sean McVay as a coach.
They're not only four and oh, they're four and oh
against the spread. They're beating people badly. Darnold leads the
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NFL in touchdown passes passer rating, and the defense leads
the NFL in sacks. It's not a star studded defense.
It's not Kansas City where you can see it completely
disrupting people. And it's the same two or three guys.
It's Chris Jones every week, wreaking habit. It's not that.
But it's good and it's exceptionally coached. And I have
Minnesota at too number one. Listen, Mahomes is eighteen and
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fourteen when trailing by ten or more points. That's a
silly stat. But the other thing that we have to
acknowledge Rashi Rice had become a really really elite receiver.
And you cross your fingers, but that's trouble. Xavier Worthy
is not a volume guy, but he isn't over the
top guy. Are they going to be at the trade
deadline in the market for a receiver. I'm not quite
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sure they won last year without Worthy. They didn't even
have an over the top receiver. Again. Their structure so good,
but Mahomes has five picks and four have been ugly.
I just kind of trust him. Every game looks the same.
I've said this for two weeks. They look like New England.
He just very good, defensively, great coach, amazing quarterback. I mean,
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how many great receiving cores did New England have? It
always felt like they had an element, or they'd have
a Welker when they had Moss. They didn't win a
Super Bowl. So my takeaway is this is my best
top ten so far. I feel very strongly about this
top ten.
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
He was a three star recruit as a broadcaster. He's
become a five star guy. His first round. Mark Sanchez,
come on, that was a Joe Mark. You were you
were by the way we loved you. We had no
idea what we had, and then we looked up and
we got the Jalen Milroll here running throwing deep Holy Mols.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And we'll talk about that during the break. Okay, let's
just keep it professional.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay. So here's the thing, and now this I may
be reaching here, but if you're smiling already, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is a winner.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
He's a win winner.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The Jets last decade are not winners. So Aaron Rodgers,
all of a sudden, defensive coach with a losing record
at a press conference, says, I love the cadence and
I'm thinking, come on now, now, am I? I wouldn't
love that either? Is that just my ego?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
No? No, you know who did a great job of
breaking this down. Who is our guy? Hasbeck talking. When
you use cadence as a weapon, if you're a veteran
quarterback who's been in the league twenty years or whatever
it is for Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, these kind of
veteran guys, you're gonna use your cadence as a weapon.
It has been a weapon for them. He threw a
touchdown against San Francisco by getting up to the line
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of scrimmage ready with his cadence. Guys are still running
off the field, getting guys to jump, getting free plays.
That's a part of Aaron's repertoire, right. I think this
leans lends into the New York media blowing up one
comment from the coach, then getting Aaron to comment back
about it when they haven't spoken about it. So now
it looks like a feud internally, when really it's an
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external issue. I'm not worried about Aaron Rodgers and his cadence.
I don't think Robert Saul is really worried about Aaron
Rodgers and the cadence. He just as a defensive coach,
is like, hey, guys, we've had thirteen penalties in this game,
some on defense, some on offense in an ugly game.
Look at the weather. Look at I mean, it's completely
pouring in this game. You're gonna have to win ugly,
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which means don't beat yourself. So I think he was
more miffed with penalties in general, and so when he
says cadence, it happened to be one of the ones
that stuck out in his head of using the cadence
in plus territory. So what Matt Hasselback said is when
you're backed up and you use cadence on your minus
five yard line, your toe, your heels, are almost on
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the goal line kind of thing. If you jump off
sides on offense, who cares? False start? Who cares? You
move back two yards? But if you're on the other
team's goal line and you move back five yards, it
really changes, right, So you try and do it when
you're on your own territory because there's less to lose, right,
less risk. But I don't think this is that big
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of an issue in general. The bigger issue is learning
how to win ugly, learning how to make a kick
in the rain. I mean, zerline, you played pretty well,
like I need that kick, man, I need you here.
It's an ugly game. It's a ten to nine affair.
It is nasty. Go fine me a way to win.
One more first down, one more completion, a strain on
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a block here or there, a miss field goal as
opposed to a made field goal against a rookie quarterback
on the road. We gotta have that win. Now, moving forward,
turn the page as fast as you can, stop reading
the clippings, get out of the daily News and New
York posts. Just move on with your life because you
got a big one across the pond against one of
the hottest teams in the league in Minnesota. Then they
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got the bills. Right, these two, these next two games
are really going to help shape their season. But they're
going to need to remember this. So the word for
them is compartmentalization. You gotta compartmentalize this game Buffalo late
in the year, maybe at home late in the year
in New England when they need a win late in
the year, raining, snowing, sleet, wintry mix, whatever the heck
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it says on your iPhone out right, you gotta remember
how to win those games ugly and you can't beat yourself.
League average is five and a half penalties a game.
Last year thirteen penalties, over double the league average. That
was a problem, not just one, you know, pre snap
penalty on a cadence issue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So you do. I think the best job of any
analyst I've seen on any network describing why things are happening,
and I you really are good at this. My wife
doesn't even listen to me if he thinks I sell
insurance and then like she'll be like, who's the guy
on the handsome guy that's on And I'm like, oh,
Mark Sanchez, and she's like, yeah, he explains it that
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I understand it. So sometimes things happen and I'm like,
I don't get it. I love Cliff Kingsbury as a
play caller. I thought Jayden Daniels would be good. I
didn't think it would be the greatest offense in league history.
What mark the run game? There's no contact for four
or five yards? Yeah, what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Second opportunity for Cliff Kingsbury. Look at Pete Carroll, second
opportunity in the NFL after going to New England, Bill Belichick.
Second opportunity. Guys when they get their second shot, like
Cliff Kingsbury, you don't think they're taking notes the entire
time about where they missed. What could I have done better? Now,
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not only do you take those notes and get better yourself,
but you enter a better situation with maybe a better
player at the quarterback position. Arguably similar traits. But a
guy who has really taken care of the football can run.
I mean, we've seen him outrun SEC defenders playing Florida
last year when he was at LSU and just beaten
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him by five six yards down the stretch, seventy yard
foot race. Are you kidding me? So this kid has
elite speed. He knows how to get the ball out
of his hands quickly. Cliff has set him up that way,
a ton of pure progressions where he's just going one
through five boom boom, boom boom. I know exactly what
it looks like. I know exactly what I'm looking for.
And then the run game, as you mentioned, when you
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get a run game that can help the quarterback like that,
just like the Bears did last week. I'm teasing those
clips for the second part of this hit here, but
that it really is working together. Being with somebody who's
seen it before, who's been in a Super Bowl game
in Dan Quinn, who's won Super Bowls as a coordinator.
I mean, this guy understands it. And now Cliff gets
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to go be a coordinator again before potentially he gets
to be a head coach again down the line. And
he's gotten better. He went back to college for a year,
comes back to the NFL, and he's ready to go.
He has a guy that can pull the trigger for
him and he's setting him up nicely, understanding that the
defense is going to help him out. That a run
game can help you. You don't have to throw it
fifty times a game, but when it calls for it,
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you got to be ready to so I think there's
a lot of reasons for his success. Did anybody expect
it to be the best in NFL history? No, of
course not. That's the result, but the process has gotten better.
Too often we praise the result. The process has gotten better,
and a lot of that has to do with the
situation and then Cliff Kingsbury's development and growth personally as
a coordinator.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
We try to fit people into boxes. We do this
with Jamie Fox early in his career. He can sing,
he can dance, he's funny, he can do a game show.
Jamie can do everything. We've done this with Sure, he's
this not this mark. I watch him in the pocket.
I'm watching the videos we show he's a good pocket quarterback.
I mean, I didn't play the position, but I watch him.
There are guys I don't think see the field. He
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sees the field. I think he's underappreciated.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Well. I think he's getting better and better as each
season goes on. Once again, he's getting more opportunities at it.
I think there's no reason not to expect these guys.
I shouldn't say that it's expected that they're going to
win ten to fourteen games a year. They're going to
run the heck out of the ball. He's going to
extend plays. Whatever. The key for me is just like
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in the championship game last year, can you beat people
from the pocket when it counts at the end of
the year, in those final four games where you play
Kansas City and you don't rush for two hundred yards
Derrick Henry and those extended plays get shut down by
Chris Jones, you know, and you're siloed in the pocket
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and you got to drop back ten to fifteen times
game and deliver strikes. And I need ten to twelve
completions on those fifteen plays. Sometimes you're conceding and just
checking it down. Sometimes you're ripping it down the field
in tight windows. That's where the growth is going to be.
I'm expecting all this stuff that we're seeing now, and
he's progressing, he's going in the right direction, trending in
(30:18):
the right direction. But it's going to matter at the
end of the year. Can he do it from the
pocket when it counts ten to fifteen plays a game,
And that's where he's really going to take the next
step in his career. This MVP type level of play
that we're used to. That's expected almost and I'm not
saying that's you know, this easy, you know, accomplishable feats.
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That's really tough to do what they do, but show
me it at the end of the year. I'm not
taking anything away from the guy's MVP last year, but
you gotta do it when it counts. And if he
can do that, he's going to take that next step
and be in a completely different stratosphere as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm so fired up. He's a masterclass artist when it
comes to tape. I'm so fired up for this. I
saw my I get my little thing before you get
out here, and it says Mark Scott goes hot.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Did you touch it? I hope not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It was like as a the oven. You never do
it again. Careful, No, Mark's got tape.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Next, it's The Herd.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and noon Eastern a em Pacific.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, Mark to do this without me, but I'm
just here to set him up. So he's got a
couple of pieces of tape. And I'm fascinated on this
because I do think Caleb felt like he got his
feet under him, he felt a little more poised. You're
going to describe it, So let's start with the first
piece of tape.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Sure, So essentially, you look at the formula to win.
We talk about on this show all the time. What's
their formula to win with a rookie superstar quarterback? Weapons
on offense, a punter who can kick it out of
the stadium and flip field position, a kicker and Cairo
Santo's that can get you three points on the regular
as soon as you cross the forty yard line. I mean,
you have options. Plus the defense that led the league
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in interceptions last year. They get takeaways, you're going to
get free possessions. Take care of the football and make
me really good decisions, especially third and long. Go ahead
and roll the tape. So look at the situation here.
They're down six, it's a one score game, second quarter
at home. Soldier Field fans are a little shaky, right,
you've dropped the last two games on the road. But
these Rams defenders have done a good job ball game
(32:13):
so far, toggling their safeties, rocking and rolling their safeties,
disguising looks. Does it look like pressure kind of? But
what do they do they're gonna blow out of their bluffet,
which means you're gonna get exaggerated zone drops. These guys
got to really high tail it out from the line
of scrimmage. And then look at the play call Zebra personnel,
which is eleven one back, one tight end, three receivers,
gun trips left, why off close, seventy five pepper x
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deep cross backs cross. It's a lot to say right,
it's a lot to spin out, a lot to spit out.
So here's the routes in accordance with the play call.
You're getting double posts, the two p's and dipper tell
you the posts. That's number one, your big post option.
Remember it's third to nine. You got to throw the
ball down the field. Potentially, there's your seam post, which
is more of like a blit zero. Answer number three
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is DJ Moore ripping across the field on a deep crosser.
That's why you say close in the formation to remind
him to close his split. Then he got the tight
end and the halfback crossing each other. In case you
get man demand to get a natural pick. Reminder that
in seventy five protection out of the gun, these guys
are gonna chip on their way out, so they're gonna
help the tackles. While Caleb's looking down the field reading
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this deep post scene post and deep cross one two
and three. I love his eyes. I love him defining
five steps in his drop, understanding that there's wide expansive
zone drops nothing's open downfield. One, two and three are
dead to me. I got to get to number four.
Where's Cole Comet right there? I want to throw it
to him, but Quinton Lake's right in front of him.
Where's my back? I get all the way to number
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five on this give him a catchable ball. Shout out
to Roshawn Johnson for going up and plucking this thing
out of the air because it's not the best ball,
but he keeps his momentum going forward, one foot in
the ground, split defenders, go get me a first down.
He threw a four yards to gain nine yards right,
a lot. That's a lot right in just one play.
Now this is where the Bears hurt themselves. That play
(34:02):
was negated. I had to show it. I didn't. I
didn't want to be Debbie Downer from the jump. But
the play was negated because Darnell Right, the right tackle
lined up too far back, illegal formation. Those are the
kind of things they need to eliminate. The pre snap penalties.
There were number four in the league coming into the
game on pre snap penalties. They need to cut those out.
But that shows me right there that Caleb Williams is
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seeing it. They're giving him full field reads. He's understanding
the situation and the down and distance. That was perfect
and so much growth compared to the last couple weeks,
even from the first week. He didn't turn it over.
They won the game. He threw it twenty three times.
Twenty three times, not fifty plus, not three hundred and
sixty plus yards. Okay, fine, it's not your best stat line,
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but the most important one is the w in the
win call. It's all right, Yeah, so I loved what
he did there. Okay, Now we get into the next
play down near the goal line. This is another crucial
third down. Go ahead and roll the tape. We're in
the low red zone and it's empty formation. Nobody's next
to the quarterback. I want you to see how they
align in empty formation. They're out of twelve personnel, one back,
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two tight ends, two receivers. Now they put the tight
ends in unique spots. The tight ends in the slot
up top, and he's number two in the middle of
those three receivers at the bottom of the screen. So
that's gonna tell me Manner Zone tells. Okay, that's gonna
give me some information. He got five guys sniffing around
the line of scrimmage. Everybody else is playing Manda man
over their player. Okay, look for mismatches. We got one
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Rover in the back of the field. He's just gonna
read the quarterback's eyes. So they give him a full
field read, which is going to allow him to have
a natural lookof He's gonna start up top on a
slant route to Gerald Everett. His next look is gonna
be another full field read. He's going left to right
like a sprinkler across the lawn. Just tick tick tick
tick tick all the way across the lawn, hanging there,
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and then you're gonna go from the slant to the
stick nod down here to DJ Moore. The slant's job
is to win across the backer's face. He's got to
beat on the slant. He feels the safety helping out. Boom.
Get to my next guy. Shift your eyes to number
two and who is that dj Moore on a stick
nod on Rose Boom a backer hold on Dj Moore,
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responsible for forty percent of your offense is on a
backer on a stick nod a double move. This guy's
gonna stick with my guy Hill. No, he's not. Watch
his throw back end line over the top credit to
Rose Boom. He played this much better than most backers.
He's all over him, right, So where do you throw
that ball? Back end line throws face masking higher. If
I'm being hyper critical, I'd say throw it even a
(36:34):
little bit higher. Yeah, because he almost tipped it away.
Front end line throws they got to be down and dirty.
It's got to look like a tag at home plate
in baseball, right, They got to be low belt loop
and lower numbers and lower. This was so good by
Caleb understanding what was going on, seeing the whole field
getting from one to two quickly and cutting the ball looser.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Could I just argue the kid needed four weeks that
all that information. Maybe he just needed foot.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Everybody needs time montask for this stuff. Some guys get
it week one, some guys get a week eighteen. It
doesn't matter how it happens, but you got to give
him some structure set him up for success. They did
better on first down. They're more productive on first down
when they didn't have pre snap penalties. The run game
was great. I think shout out to the offensive line,
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to Chad Morton, the running backs coach, to Shane Waldron,
the offensive coordinator, who took a ton of heat last
week for their execution on the goal line. They looked
much better this week. And then you know Carrie Joseph,
the quarterback coach, a quarterback in his own right, was
a stud in the CFL, won a great cup, like
he knows how to play this position, and they helped
him out by setting him up with great concepts where
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he could see the whole field, get through pure progression
reads and check the ball down if he needed to,
and pierce the defense with a great throw when he
needed to. So it was much better outfit, not as
many throws, calculated effort and what do you know, ibra
flus in this defense they take the ball away a
couple times. They win on a turnover, although it could
have been an illegal head on the quarterback. But that
(38:05):
was the story of the game. To me is finding
a winning formula in Chicago that's going to be what
it looks like, especially when you can kind of keep
the game close the whole time. Now there's going to
be a point where he has to put it up
fifty times a game because you're chasing points, and you
get down fourteen early and boom, Okay, we got to
get into more of a wide open, spread them out
kind of mode. But this game was. I mean, they
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put their foot in the ground and ran north and
south and I loved it. No more dancing in the hole,
run behind seventy nine prior and just get me as
many yards as you can get me to second and
third and manageable. And Caleb played great.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I think you really compartmentalized it well early. The punter's great,
the field.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Goal kicker lock working in his favor.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think you know I've said this about the heat
on Eberflus. The first thing I look for a coach
is does he own his side of the ball. McDermott
made Buffalo's defense very good. There's some things I can
complain about. Lincoln Riley offense is good, Like when I
watch Chicago and eber Flues. They have a great corner
and Jalen Sweat, but the defenses it's fastened the alignment
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they make place and.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
They're helping him out with little stuff like the wristband.
We talked about that call. Look at this call, say
this call back, Hey, Zebra personnel.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Trips left off, So Caleb are.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Zebra gun trips left off close seventy five pepper, So
Caleb's next back's cross. You got a lot to say,
And if you need to hear that from the coordinator
twice and then go into the huddle and then go
up to the line of scrimmage. I mean you're scrambling
just to make it to the line of scrimmage and
diagnose the defense and boom, you got to snap the ball.
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It's a delay a game. So now they're using the wristband.
It's much easier. It's written out for him. He can
study it the night before and he's got these calls
memorize more or less, and it makes it much easier
for his process.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh it's a Tuesday lot to talk about live in
Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and
however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part
of your day. Jmac, I don't know how I'm supposed
to feel about Detroit last night. Geno Smith almost forty
first downs, Seattle's missing all for their best defensive players
(00:47):
up front, then two others get injured and Seattle made
a fight.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Out of it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I think I came out of that game respecting Seattle
more than I did liking Detroit more, which is a
weird feeling. The great Peak Hall of Famer Hits King
passes away. We'll talk about that. We got Nick right,
Mark Sanchez, Jalen Johnson, the Bear stopping by. But last
night I came out of that game with weird vibes.
That's interesting. I thought you would watch Miami and have
(01:13):
weird vibe. Unwatchable boy two of looks valuable, doesn't he.
So Detroit wins forty two to twenty nine. The Lions
score forty two points. Jared Goff goes eighteen for eighteen,
and I'm sitting there thinking, man, Detroit's got red flags everywhere.
So Gino Smith had thirty eight first downs. He engineered
thirty eight first downs That's the most ever in the
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history of the league for a losing team. Now, maybe
Gino's better than I give him credit for. He's certainly
a B quarterback. He's capable, has a good arm, and
he has tremendous backs tight end wide receiver talent. But
they marched up and down the field on Detroit, and
basically Seattle was in a hole from the beginning. They
were chasing him. Detroit knew they had to chase. So
that's an advantage for the defense. And I look around
(01:55):
the NFL right now, and all the good teams play
pretty good defense. Minnesota does, San Francisco does, and Baltimore does,
and Buffalo does. Except for Monday Night and Sunday Night
and Kansas City does. And so I'm looking at all
these teams that are pretty good in the NFL. Houston does,
and I'm thinking and Detroit's defense I don't trust at all.
(02:15):
That was a home game, a huge home Monday night
football game. Seattle is not getting the whistle. DK metcalf
conversion should have counted, two point conversion didn't. Seattle's trailing
the entire game, and Seattle's doing whatever they want offensively,
like whatever they want. So that's the first thing that
concerns me. Secondly, Detroit's in this transition stage. Like Dan
(02:40):
Campbell created a tough culture and deserves respect, but he's
got a transition from raw, raw guy to situationally elite
guy like an Andy Reid. Because my question is, why
is that game close? Why are you throwing out of
the end zone with a lead late and getting a safety.
You got to get past all the tough, raw raw
guy stuff. You know, I understand it. Everybody loves it,
(03:02):
bite kneecaps. He created it. I get it. I respect it. Okay,
now it's time to transition to a smarter football team.
And it feels like too often when I watched Detroit,
and they were so bad for so long. I understand
this is tough. They're finally winning, and they're kind of giddy.
The fans are giddy. The media is giddy in Detroit,
(03:23):
like we're winning. Okay, that's great. Now you're consistently winning.
Now it's the pivot. You've come a long way. You're
like the family member that finally got their act together.
Everybody's happy for them, but you still wouldn't trust them
taking your kids to Disneyland. That's what the Lions have become. Hey, congratulations,
(03:44):
you're not vaping anymore. But I would appreciate it if
every time you come over, you don't go into a
thirty minute lecture on crypto. Like we all are rooting
for Detroit. We all like Detroit, we all think it's great.
But I wouldn't trust them. I can't trust them. I'm
they're not taking my kids to Disneyland. I just don't
trust them. And that's where I am. And they're in
(04:05):
this raw, raw stage. And while they're fun and goff
is this and I mean, they're hard not to like.
And maybe we'll know the truth about Detroit pretty soon
because if you look at their schedule they got an
early buy. So Detroit goes into the by and then
their schedule is pretty brutal at Dallas, at Minnesota, at
Green Bay, at Houston. Jacksonville may have their act together
(04:26):
by then, so maybe that's it. But run the clock out.
How are you getting a safety? What are you doing?
It may not matter against an injury depleted Seahawk team
at home on Monday night. It's gonna matter against San
Francisco if you're on the road, or a playoff game
against Minnesota when you're on the road, Like clean it up.
The raw. Raw stuff was fun, it was great. We're
(04:48):
all rooting for you. But I watched that game, and
I think I was more impressed with what Seattle did
on the road with Gino. Five hundred sum yards, thirty
eight first downs, missing their four bet defensive players in
the box. Here's Dan Campbell after every.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Week's going to be different, you know, this was this
was a little bit of a track meet, whereas you know,
these first few games have been more of these low
score on our defense has been able to score twenty points.
You're winning, you know, and so every game is different.
You find a way to win. The one in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You know what, every game kind of looked the same
when the Patriots had a dynasty, and every Chiefs game
sort of looks the same, And though the outcomes can
be different, every Ravens game sort of feels the same.
If your team looks different every week, it lacks a consistency,
a consistency that teams that Hoyst trophies have. The Chiefs
games all look the same. New England's game forever looked
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the same, even the Ravens game, had they not blown
that lead to the Raiders, they were leading late, like
they all kind of look. You get that dynamic offense,
you get speed, you get aggressiveness, you get good coaching,
you get toughness. Know what I get with Detroit? They
won and I saw red flags, all right the Jets.
Things now getting weird. So Robert Sala has only coached
(06:10):
Aaron Rodgers officially for what five games, and he's learning
what Matt Lafleur and Mike McCarthy found out. Aaron's gonna
do what Aaron wants to do, and if you push
back on him, he's gonna call you out. Okay, but
it's important, this is an important reality in this relationship.
It was never balanced. You know, you've all seen the
(06:33):
marriage where she's rich, he isn't. He's rich, she isn't.
It's not balanced. Personalities aren't balanced. So Aaron comes into
this relationship in New York. Aaron's a winner and the
Jets are perpetual losers. Aaron's a Hall of Famer first ballot,
rich and successful. Robert sala isn't isn't instant. Aaron's West
(06:56):
Coast California cool. The Jet it sort of New York messy.
And so this relationship, and there's a distinction. You don't
have to be best friends. Brady and Belichick, we're not
best friends. But there's gotta be mutual respect. And I
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have three instances this year, two of them at the
mic where I have sensed there isn't a lot of respect.
And we've always known two words with Aaron prickly and moody.
That's not my opinion. Ask his family. It's well documented.
It's in books. He's prickly and he's moody, and he
pushes back quickly, and they'll often do it publicly when
he's ticked off, to call you out. So I thought
(07:37):
this was really interesting. Yesterday A former Jet quarterback and
former MVP for the Bengals, Boomerosiasin's on a popular radio
show in New York WFAN Morning Show, and he noticed
something because he's been in this situation in his life.
And you know, this is local radio generally speaking. You know,
it's kind of favorable to the home team and the
home stars. I get that done. That get that. I
(08:00):
thought Bloomer called out something, and something I hadn't paid
a lot of attention to. He had, And this is interesting.
I try to watch.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
To see if I see any interactions on the sideline
or anything. Nothing not that I see a guy walking
right past the other guy. I can't imagine that. Now,
Bultwall deny it. I guarantee it. But there is an
issue there, and it's because you have this forty year
old Hall of Fame quarterback to be dealing with a
coach that I think he doesn't respect.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And again, Prickly and Moody, that's okay for a linebacker
and a tight end. But Aaron's the savior of the franchise. Again,
it came in unbalanced. Aaron was going to save the
franchise from these losing coaches and losing coordinators and losing
owner and losing fans unbalanced, and now you're kind of
(08:51):
pushing back on Aaron and his cadence, and Aaron's thinking privately, hell,
you talking about who are you? What's your record? What's mine?
Where's your trophy? I get it, the ego, I get it.
But when it leaks out publicly, that's what you've always
had the deal with Aaron. Lafleur felt it, McCarthy felt it.
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And by the way, you get two, you get two errands.
So when Aaron's happy, he's the best, He's the best
player in the league at the mic. And we saw
that after the win over New England. This is the
good erin joyful smiling, everybody's on board. Here's the good
erin after a win.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
It's easier when you're kind of getting kicked in the
teeth to kind of come together. It's us against the world,
it's us against the big bad media who's saying how.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Bad we are.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
You know, we can kind of come together, But can
you still come together and have the same approach when
everybody's kind of starting to sing your praises a little bit?
I think that's the mark of a great team, is
can you handle the success part with the same focus,
the same mentality, the same mindset, the same energy. When
you're starting to get on a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Role, I get behind that guy, good looking, charismatic, smart,
like I get behind that guy. I like that guy.
But as we know, and it's documented, Aaron turns fast,
gets dark, prickly, moody fast, and here's Aaron. A week later,
the Cayden specifically, Robert said, that might be something you've
(10:22):
asked have to dial back a little bit. Is that
something you think could potentially help the situation.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
That's fun way to do it. The other ways hold
them accountable. I mean, we haven't had an issue. We've
had one false start. Morgan had one false start, I
believe until this so you know, it's been a weapon.
We use it every day in practice. We don't you know,
we rarely have a false start, and to have I
don't know five today, it seemed like four or five. Yeah,
(10:48):
it's and it seems like an out there I don't
know if we need to make mass changes.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's like a different guy. But I get it. This
all goes back to bringing in Aaron to be the savior.
This was never a balance relationship. Ever, never was you
were asking him to save a losing franchise, losers trying
to be saved by a winner. And so when the
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losers start criticizing the winner, what do you think the
winner's gonna think? Dude, I got a three hundred million
dollar networth, I got trophies, I'm first ballot. You guys
aren't gonna have a job in six weeks. Losers grab
give up draft capital money for a winner. Winner doesn't
want to hear from losers how to get it right.
(11:35):
I'm sorry, that's the reality. This was not a balance relationship.
So if they go to London and get waxed, you're
not getting happy erin you get into these relationships, it's
I mean, you're seeing it in Cleveland, all sorts of
different stuff. But desperate franchise go guarantee star quarterback, it
(11:56):
goes south, and star quarterback, rich quarterback looks at losing
franchise and starts pointing fingers. So there is you know,
I get Aaron looking around, going you have a problem
with my cadence. I'm the best Cadence guy in the
history of the league. Aaron leads the NFL all time
in free play touchdowns, meaning he gets people to jump
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off sides. He reads it, sees it free play. He's
the best ever at that. And now the Jets are going, hey,
you know we don't like the way you do cadence.
Excuse me, I'm the greatest cadence quarterback in the history
of the league. I don't even think we argue about that.
Aaron is that the prettiest ball, the best cadence guy
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in the league. And the losers are telling them the
winner they don't like his cadence. I mean, listen, I
sit on the stage all the time, and you think
I hate Aaron, But he's the winner. He came in
as the savior. And if you're a coach with a
losing record and you start pointing fingers, hey, I don't
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like the way. Hey, I don't like the way you lose. Hey, owner,
I don't like the way you're impulsive, Hay offensive coordinator GM.
This this is an unbalanced relationship, Jamak. I know you
thought I was coming in glass half full guy, but
I think boomerisias and I think he's onto something.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Yeah, Boomer Sison watching this show yesterday when we went
after this same discussion, Rogers Versala just disappointing. Now he
wants to pile on for like, you know, the New
York meat balls.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Listening to the radio, Why don't he stinking Rogers they
lost for the BRONC. I don't think that that's on
that listen.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
That's what they do. They try to stir drama. It's
understandable that listen. I was, I was a website owner.
I had a business, I sold it. I know what
it takes to stir up trouble, and that's what Boomer
Size is doing.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think I think he's being very authentic and honest
with what he sees as a former great quarterback. I
don't I don't think he's like typical guy. I think
played the position, knows the position, watches every snap. I mean,
let's be honest. Boomer will probably be a practice or
something with Aaron Rodgers. He didn't want to call him out.
I'm on a stage where I never seen ninety nine
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percent of these guys. If you're banging on error Judge,
if you work in New York, you'll see her in
Judge in the batting cage. So I don't know, you
think it's stirring it up. I look at that, and
I think, oh, that's interesting play. The position knows the position,
watches the position. Also, when you work in a local market,
you do have an advantage. You know your feet are
on the ground in the local market. You have salespeople,
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front office people. You're seeing him out the dinner. You've
got great connections. I don't know, I think it's something
if he's saying that, I don't you think it's stirring
the pot.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
I keep the same energy when the Jets meet the
Vikings in London to see that. That's all I'm saying, Boomer,
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You are funny, not if when coming up next, the
guys before us were arguing about this, it's funny. Uh,
the biggest quarterback mess is not New York, it's Pittsburgh.
It was totally predictable. We'll talk about that next Nick
right top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
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Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's Tuesday. It's time. I heard Hierarchy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Heard Hierarchy.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Time.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College
Number ten.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I thought Seattle, missing their four best defensive linemen, looked great.
Gino Smith, that dude throws a beautiful ball, is totally
in tune with DK Metcalf. I like their running backs.
I mean, I'm sorry. Gino leads the NFL in passing
yard second and completion percentage. Kenneth Walker. I was blown away.
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Seattle didn't have their four best defensive lineman against the
best O line in the league. You knew they wouldn't
make stops. I thought Gino was exceptional on a Monday
night on the road. Seattle at ten, number nine Texans
only loss came on the road to the Vikings. They
got housed. Didn't have Joe Mixon, but their top eight
de offense, top five defense, and I love CJ. Stroud
X coming back listen.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
C J.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Strout is a young quarterback. To see Caleb Williams this
week when he got a run game with de Andre Swift. Oh,
Caleb look pretty good as good as c J. Stroud is,
and he's got his weapons like Nico Collins. Young quarterbacks especially,
they need their running backs. Joe Mixon returns. I like
Houston nine, number eight the Packers. It's weird They're zero
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and two with Jordan Love and two and zero without him.
They do lead the NFL in big plays. I like
all their structure. Listen, Jordan Love hasn't taken a lot
of snaps because of the injury, and he's not he's
not quite ready to go. Second half the offense look
better than the first half. They lead the NFL in
takeaway So Green Bay is a feisty, aggressive defense, which
is what their fans have been complaining about for years.
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How come the defense can't be as good as the offense.
I still think Green Bay is an ascending team. It
is a young team with a quarterback that comes in rusty.
They're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Number seven.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know what to do with the Commanders, but
they're breaking every single NFL record offensively. Jaden Daniels, we
thought he was gonna be like Lamar Jackson. Light is
he or is he just Lamar Jackson? I mean, kids incredible.
I just read here this morning. He has five total
touchdowns and six complete incompletions over the last two games.
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I do think the Cliff Kingsbury oc higher. And we
predicted this. We thought Washington would be a playoff team.
I think all flushing out the bad vibes, the bad
owner bring it an entirely new organization in owner down
for the first time in a decade, everything is good
vibes and positivity. I don't know where it lands. I
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don't know when the regression is coming. But I thought
Arizona was one of the better sides of the week,
and they blew him out in Arizona. Put Washington at
seven number six. I know they won last night, but
that defense on the back end, Jared Goff once again
is the strength of a team, and nobody wants to acknowledge.
In the last two weeks, he's completing eighty eight percent
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of his throws. They've got an over the top receiver,
they have omar On Saint Brown, they have two backs.
I like a great offensive line. Don't trust Dan Campbell
in situational football. But here's the reality with Detroit. It
is hard not to be a good team when you
have a dominating running game and a dominating O line
in a very capable super Bowl quarterback. They're just gonna
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win a lot of games. They're gonna mash a lot
of people, and it's not always going to be pretty.
I have Detroit at six, number five Buffalo. Now they're
getting some of their linebackers who were injured back. They
were a mess this past week and they ran into
a buzzsaw. It's called Lamar Jackson. He does that at
home a lot. He blew out the Niners and the
Lions last year in Miami. I'm not selling my Buffalo stock.
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I think they have offensive balance between Kincaid and James Cook.
The rookie receiver looks special to me. I think Buffalo
is gonna be fine. They've been a roller coaster for years.
All Kansas City games look the same, Buffalo doesn't. Buffalo's
a little Dallas cowboy. They're a little Mike Tyson knockout
or unraveling. That's kind of their DNA. I still think
they're good. Buffalo five, number four San Francisco. So now
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they're getting their guys back, Debo and Kittle. They don't
have Christian McCaffrey, but the reality is they leave the
NFL in time of possession, it's still Shanahan, Purdy, Debo, Kittle,
I you Jennings, come on. When this team is healthy
whe or without Christian McAffrey, it's a really good football team.
And again. Fred Warner is playing linebacker at a level
we have not seen for a long long time. San
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Francisco at four, number three. I'll never sell my Ravens stock.
I'll never sell it. They look like the fastest team
in the league. If Kansas City's got the fastest defense,
they have the fastest offense. And he may never beat
Patrick Mahomes number one total offense. With Derrick Henry now
number one rushing offense, They're not very good on the
back end. Everybody's got a flaw. You start paying your
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quarterback huge money. Everybody's got a hole. The Chiefs have
a wide receiver hole now with Rashid Rice. Ravens have
a little bit of a hole. I like Kyle Hamilton.
Maybe they have a cornerback issue, but I'm not selling
my stock. Derrick Henry leads the league in rushing with
Lamar Baltimore or Buffalo literally looked like they were waving
the flag Monday night, like they had zero answers nine
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yards of play Number two Minnesota. I don't think it's
a fluke. I didn't buy into the Saints. I'm not
sure if I bought into the Jets after they beat
New England. I buy into this team. Everything works. They're
defensive coordinators excellent, their special teams are consistent, their offense
is amazing. They have the tall Sean McVay as a coach.
They're not only four and oh, they're four and oh
against the spread. They're beating people badly. Darnold leads the
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NFL in touchdown passes passer rating, and the defense leads
the NFL in sacks. It's not a star studded defense.
It's not Kansas City where you can see it completely
disrupting people. And it's the same two or three guys.
It's Chris Jones every week, wreaking habit. It's not that.
But it's good and it's exceptionally coached. And I have
Minnesota at too number one. Listen, Mahomes is eighteen and
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fourteen when trailing by ten or more points. That's a
silly stat. But the other thing that we have to
acknowledge Rashi Rice had become a really really elite receiver.
And you cross your fingers, but that's trouble. Xavier Worthy
is not a volume guy, but he isn't over the
top guy. Are they going to be at the trade
deadline in the market for a receiver. I'm not quite
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sure they won last year without Worthy. They didn't even
have an over the top receiver. Again. Their structure so good,
but Mahomes has five picks and four have been ugly.
I just kind of trust him. Every game looks the same.
I've said this for two weeks. They look like New England.
He just very good, defensively, great coach, amazing quarterback. I mean,
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how many great receiving cores did New England have? It
always felt like they had an element, or they'd have
a Welker when they had Moss. They didn't win a
Super Bowl. So my takeaway is this is my best
top ten so far. I feel very strongly about this
top ten.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
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He said neond Easter. Not a Empacific he was.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He was a three star recruit as a broadcaster. He's
become a five star guy. His first round. Mark Sanchez,
come on, that was a Joe Mark. You were you
were by the way we loved you. We had no
idea what we had, and then we looked up and
we got the Jalen Milroll here running throwing deep Holy Mols.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And we'll talk about that during the break. Okay, let's
just keep it professional.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Okay. So here's the thing, and now this I may
be reaching here, but if you're smiling already, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is a winner.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
He's a win winner.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The Jets last decade are not winners. So Aaron Rodgers,
all of a sudden, defensive coach with a losing record
at a press conference, says, I love the cadence and
I'm thinking, come on now, now, am I? I wouldn't
love that either? Is that just my ego?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
No? No, you know who did a great job of
breaking this down. Who is our guy? Hasbeck talking. When
you use cadence as a weapon, if you're a veteran
quarterback who's been in the league twenty years or whatever
it is for Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, these kind of
veteran guys, you're gonna use your cadence as a weapon.
It has been a weapon for them. He threw a
touchdown against San Francisco by getting up to the line
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of scrimmage ready with his cadence. Guys are still running
off the field, getting guys to jump, getting free plays.
That's a part of Aaron's repertoire, right. I think this
leans lends into the New York media blowing up one
comment from the coach, then getting Aaron to comment back
about it when they haven't spoken about it. So now
it looks like a feud internally, when really it's an
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external issue. I'm not worried about Aaron Rodgers and his cadence.
I don't think Robert Saul is really worried about Aaron
Rodgers and the cadence. He just as a defensive coach,
is like, hey, guys, we've had thirteen penalties in this game,
some on defense, some on offense in an ugly game.
Look at the weather. Look at I mean, it's completely
pouring in this game. You're gonna have to win ugly,
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which means don't beat yourself. So I think he was
more miffed with penalties in general, and so when he
says cadence, it happened to be one of the ones
that stuck out in his head of using the cadence
in plus territory. So what Matt Hasselback said is when
you're backed up and you use cadence on your minus
five yard line, your toe, your heels, are almost on
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the goal line kind of thing. If you jump off
sides on offense, who cares? False start? Who cares? You
move back two yards? But if you're on the other
team's goal line and you move back five yards, it
really changes, right, So you try and do it when
you're on your own territory because there's less to lose, right,
less risk. But I don't think this is that big
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of an issue in general. The bigger issue is learning
how to win ugly, learning how to make a kick
in the rain. I mean, zerline, you played pretty well,
like I need that kick, man, I need you here.
It's an ugly game. It's a ten to nine affair.
It is nasty. Go fine me a way to win.
One more first down, one more completion, a strain on
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a block here or there, a miss field goal as
opposed to a made field goal against a rookie quarterback
on the road. We gotta have that win. Now, moving forward,
turn the page as fast as you can, stop reading
the clippings, get out of the daily News and New
York posts. Just move on with your life because you
got a big one across the pond against one of
the hottest teams in the league in Minnesota. Then they
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got the bills. Right, these two, these next two games
are really going to help shape their season. But they're
going to need to remember this. So the word for
them is compartmentalization. You gotta compartmentalize this game Buffalo late
in the year, maybe at home late in the year
in New England when they need a win late in
the year, raining, snowing, sleet, wintry mix, whatever the heck
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it says on your iPhone out right, you gotta remember
how to win those games ugly and you can't beat yourself.
League average is five and a half penalties a game.
Last year thirteen penalties, over double the league average. That
was a problem, not just one, you know, pre snap
penalty on a cadence issue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So you do. I think the best job of any
analyst I've seen on any network describing why things are happening,
and I you really are good at this. My wife
doesn't even listen to me if he thinks I sell
insurance and then like she'll be like, who's the guy
on the handsome guy that's on And I'm like, oh,
Mark Sanchez, and she's like, yeah, he explains it that
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I understand it. So sometimes things happen and I'm like,
I don't get it. I love Cliff Kingsbury as a
play caller. I thought Jayden Daniels would be good. I
didn't think it would be the greatest offense in league history.
What mark the run game? There's no contact for four
or five yards? Yeah, what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Second opportunity for Cliff Kingsbury. Look at Pete Carroll, second
opportunity in the NFL after going to New England, Bill Belichick.
Second opportunity. Guys when they get their second shot, like
Cliff Kingsbury, you don't think they're taking notes the entire
time about where they missed. What could I have done better? Now,
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not only do you take those notes and get better yourself,
but you enter a better situation with maybe a better
player at the quarterback position. Arguably similar traits. But a
guy who has really taken care of the football can run.
I mean, we've seen him outrun SEC defenders playing Florida
last year when he was at LSU and just beaten
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him by five six yards down the stretch, seventy yard
foot race. Are you kidding me? So this kid has
elite speed. He knows how to get the ball out
of his hands quickly. Cliff has set him up that way,
a ton of pure progressions where he's just going one
through five boom boom, boom boom. I know exactly what
it looks like. I know exactly what I'm looking for.
And then the run game, as you mentioned, when you
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get a run game that can help the quarterback like that,
just like the Bears did last week. I'm teasing those
clips for the second part of this hit here, but
that it really is working together. Being with somebody who's
seen it before, who's been in a Super Bowl game
in Dan Quinn, who's won Super Bowls as a coordinator.
I mean, this guy understands it. And now Cliff gets
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to go be a coordinator again before potentially he gets
to be a head coach again down the line. And
he's gotten better. He went back to college for a year,
comes back to the NFL, and he's ready to go.
He has a guy that can pull the trigger for
him and he's setting him up nicely, understanding that the
defense is going to help him out. That a run
game can help you. You don't have to throw it
fifty times a game, but when it calls for it,
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you got to be ready to so I think there's
a lot of reasons for his success. Did anybody expect
it to be the best in NFL history? No, of
course not. That's the result, but the process has gotten better.
Too often we praise the result. The process has gotten better,
and a lot of that has to do with the
situation and then Cliff Kingsbury's development and growth personally as
a coordinator.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
We try to fit people into boxes. We do this
with Jamie Fox early in his career. He can sing,
he can dance, he's funny, he can do a game show.
Jamie can do everything. We've done this with Sure, he's
this not this mark. I watch him in the pocket.
I'm watching the videos we show he's a good pocket quarterback.
I mean, I didn't play the position, but I watch him.
There are guys I don't think see the field. He
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sees the field. I think he's underappreciated.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Well. I think he's getting better and better as each
season goes on. Once again, he's getting more opportunities at it.
I think there's no reason not to expect these guys.
I shouldn't say that it's expected that they're going to
win ten to fourteen games a year. They're going to
run the heck out of the ball. He's going to
extend plays. Whatever. The key for me is just like
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in the championship game last year, can you beat people
from the pocket when it counts at the end of
the year, in those final four games where you play
Kansas City and you don't rush for two hundred yards
Derrick Henry and those extended plays get shut down by
Chris Jones, you know, and you're siloed in the pocket
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and you got to drop back ten to fifteen times
game and deliver strikes. And I need ten to twelve
completions on those fifteen plays. Sometimes you're conceding and just
checking it down. Sometimes you're ripping it down the field
in tight windows. That's where the growth is going to be.
I'm expecting all this stuff that we're seeing now, and
he's progressing, he's going in the right direction, trending in
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the right direction. But it's going to matter at the
end of the year. Can he do it from the
pocket when it counts ten to fifteen plays a game,
And that's where he's really going to take the next
step in his career. This MVP type level of play
that we're used to. That's expected almost and I'm not
saying that's you know, this easy, you know, accomplishable feats.
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That's really tough to do what they do, but show
me it at the end of the year. I'm not
taking anything away from the guy's MVP last year, but
you gotta do it when it counts. And if he
can do that, he's going to take that next step
and be in a completely different stratosphere as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm so fired up. He's a masterclass artist when it
comes to tape. I'm so fired up for this. I
saw my I get my little thing before you get
out here, and it says Mark Scott goes hot.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Did you touch it? I hope not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It was like as a the oven. You never do
it again. Careful, No, Mark's got tape.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Next, it's The Herd.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
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Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, Mark to do this without me, but I'm
just here to set him up. So he's got a
couple of pieces of tape. And I'm fascinated on this
because I do think Caleb felt like he got his
feet under him, he felt a little more poised. You're
going to describe it, So let's start with the first
piece of tape.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Sure, So essentially, you look at the formula to win.
We talk about on this show all the time. What's
their formula to win with a rookie superstar quarterback? Weapons
on offense, a punter who can kick it out of
the stadium and flip field position, a kicker and Cairo
Santo's that can get you three points on the regular
as soon as you cross the forty yard line. I mean,
you have options. Plus the defense that led the league
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in interceptions last year. They get takeaways, you're going to
get free possessions. Take care of the football and make
me really good decisions, especially third and long. Go ahead
and roll the tape. So look at the situation here.
They're down six, it's a one score game, second quarter
at home. Soldier Field fans are a little shaky, right,
you've dropped the last two games on the road. But
these Rams defenders have done a good job ball game
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so far, toggling their safeties, rocking and rolling their safeties,
disguising looks. Does it look like pressure kind of? But
what do they do they're gonna blow out of their bluffet,
which means you're gonna get exaggerated zone drops. These guys
got to really high tail it out from the line
of scrimmage. And then look at the play call Zebra personnel,
which is eleven one back, one tight end, three receivers,
gun trips left, why off close, seventy five pepper x
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deep cross backs cross. It's a lot to say right,
it's a lot to spin out, a lot to spit out.
So here's the routes in accordance with the play call.
You're getting double posts, the two p's and dipper tell
you the posts. That's number one, your big post option.
Remember it's third to nine. You got to throw the
ball down the field. Potentially, there's your seam post, which
is more of like a blit zero. Answer number three
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is DJ Moore ripping across the field on a deep crosser.
That's why you say close in the formation to remind
him to close his split. Then he got the tight
end and the halfback crossing each other. In case you
get man demand to get a natural pick. Reminder that
in seventy five protection out of the gun, these guys
are gonna chip on their way out, so they're gonna
help the tackles. While Caleb's looking down the field reading
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this deep post scene post and deep cross one two
and three. I love his eyes. I love him defining
five steps in his drop, understanding that there's wide expansive
zone drops nothing's open downfield. One, two and three are
dead to me. I got to get to number four.
Where's Cole Comet right there? I want to throw it
to him, but Quinton Lake's right in front of him.
Where's my back? I get all the way to number
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five on this give him a catchable ball. Shout out
to Roshawn Johnson for going up and plucking this thing
out of the air because it's not the best ball,
but he keeps his momentum going forward, one foot in
the ground, split defenders, go get me a first down.
He threw a four yards to gain nine yards right,
a lot. That's a lot right in just one play.
Now this is where the Bears hurt themselves. That play
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was negated. I had to show it. I didn't. I
didn't want to be Debbie Downer from the jump. But
the play was negated because Darnell Right, the right tackle
lined up too far back, illegal formation. Those are the
kind of things they need to eliminate. The pre snap penalties.
There were number four in the league coming into the
game on pre snap penalties. They need to cut those out.
But that shows me right there that Caleb Williams is
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seeing it. They're giving him full field reads. He's understanding
the situation and the down and distance. That was perfect
and so much growth compared to the last couple weeks,
even from the first week. He didn't turn it over.
They won the game. He threw it twenty three times.
Twenty three times, not fifty plus, not three hundred and
sixty plus yards. Okay, fine, it's not your best stat line,
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but the most important one is the w in the
win call. It's all right, Yeah, so I loved what
he did there. Okay, Now we get into the next
play down near the goal line. This is another crucial
third down. Go ahead and roll the tape. We're in
the low red zone and it's empty formation. Nobody's next
to the quarterback. I want you to see how they
align in empty formation. They're out of twelve personnel, one back,
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two tight ends, two receivers. Now they put the tight
ends in unique spots. The tight ends in the slot
up top, and he's number two in the middle of
those three receivers at the bottom of the screen. So
that's gonna tell me Manner Zone tells. Okay, that's gonna
give me some information. He got five guys sniffing around
the line of scrimmage. Everybody else is playing Manda man
over their player. Okay, look for mismatches. We got one
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Rover in the back of the field. He's just gonna
read the quarterback's eyes. So they give him a full
field read, which is going to allow him to have
a natural lookof He's gonna start up top on a
slant route to Gerald Everett. His next look is gonna
be another full field read. He's going left to right
like a sprinkler across the lawn. Just tick tick tick
tick tick all the way across the lawn, hanging there,
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and then you're gonna go from the slant to the
stick nod down here to DJ Moore. The slant's job
is to win across the backer's face. He's got to
beat on the slant. He feels the safety helping out. Boom.
Get to my next guy. Shift your eyes to number
two and who is that dj Moore on a stick
nod on Rose Boom a backer hold on Dj Moore,
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responsible for forty percent of your offense is on a
backer on a stick nod a double move. This guy's
gonna stick with my guy Hill. No, he's not. Watch
his throw back end line over the top credit to
Rose Boom. He played this much better than most backers.
He's all over him, right, So where do you throw
that ball? Back end line throws face masking higher. If
I'm being hyper critical, I'd say throw it even a
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little bit higher. Yeah, because he almost tipped it away.
Front end line throws they got to be down and dirty.
It's got to look like a tag at home plate
in baseball, right, They got to be low belt loop
and lower numbers and lower. This was so good by
Caleb understanding what was going on, seeing the whole field
getting from one to two quickly and cutting the ball looser.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Could I just argue the kid needed four weeks that
all that information. Maybe he just needed foot.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Everybody needs time montask for this stuff. Some guys get
it week one, some guys get a week eighteen. It
doesn't matter how it happens, but you got to give
him some structure set him up for success. They did
better on first down. They're more productive on first down
when they didn't have pre snap penalties. The run game
was great. I think shout out to the offensive line,
(37:20):
to Chad Morton, the running backs coach, to Shane Waldron,
the offensive coordinator, who took a ton of heat last
week for their execution on the goal line. They looked
much better this week. And then you know Carrie Joseph,
the quarterback coach, a quarterback in his own right, was
a stud in the CFL, won a great cup, like
he knows how to play this position, and they helped
him out by setting him up with great concepts where
(37:42):
he could see the whole field, get through pure progression
reads and check the ball down if he needed to,
and pierce the defense with a great throw when he
needed to. So it was much better outfit, not as
many throws, calculated effort and what do you know, ibra
flus in this defense they take the ball away a
couple times. They win on a turnover, although it could
have been an illegal head on the quarterback. But that
(38:05):
was the story of the game. To me is finding
a winning formula in Chicago that's going to be what
it looks like, especially when you can kind of keep
the game close the whole time. Now there's going to
be a point where he has to put it up
fifty times a game because you're chasing points, and you
get down fourteen early and boom, Okay, we got to
get into more of a wide open, spread them out
kind of mode. But this game was. I mean, they
(38:26):
put their foot in the ground and ran north and
south and I loved it. No more dancing in the hole,
run behind seventy nine prior and just get me as
many yards as you can get me to second and
third and manageable. And Caleb played great.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I think you really compartmentalized it well early. The punter's great,
the field.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Goal kicker lock working in his favor.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think you know I've said this about the heat
on Eberflus. The first thing I look for a coach
is does he own his side of the ball. McDermott
made Buffalo's defense very good. There's some things I can
complain about. Lincoln Riley offense is good, Like when I
watch Chicago and eber Flues. They have a great corner
and Jalen Sweat, but the defenses it's fastened the alignment
(39:05):
they make place and.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
They're helping him out with little stuff like the wristband.
We talked about that call. Look at this call, say
this call back, Hey, Zebra personnel.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Trips left off, So Caleb are.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Zebra gun trips left off close seventy five pepper, So
Caleb's next back's cross. You got a lot to say,
And if you need to hear that from the coordinator
twice and then go into the huddle and then go
up to the line of scrimmage. I mean you're scrambling
just to make it to the line of scrimmage and
diagnose the defense and boom, you got to snap the ball.
(39:38):
It's a delay a game. So now they're using the wristband.
It's much easier. It's written out for him. He can
study it the night before and he's got these calls
memorize more or less, and it makes it much easier
for his process.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
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