October 1, 2024 • 26 mins
Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez joins the show in studio to tell Colin if Caleb Williams has made any progress as an NFL QB after 4 starts
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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JLab dot com. Mark Sanchez bringing heat today. I mean
he sets the standard on Tuesday. I feel bad for
the guests the rest of the week can't live up
to it. Jmack with the.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
News, No turns. This is the Herd line. He brings tape.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Azola's Yeah, excited for that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Well, I'm also excited for this DeVante Adams saga go on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's heating up.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The Raiders are apparently open to shopping DeVante Adams. Just today,
the Las Vegas Journal Review was reporting the team has
started reaching out to other teams to gauge interest in
trading for the thirty one year old receiver. Yesterday, Antonio Pierce, Yes,
the coach of the Raiders, liked an Instagram post of
DeVante Adams trade rumors. I find that hard to believe
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he could have had a fat finger situation. I don't know,
but earlier today, Colin, this is crazy. DeVante Adams was
asked if he and Antonio Pierce had talked about the
post or the trade rumors.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here's Davante.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's one of those situations where I just keep my
head and keep doing my thing, and uh, you know,
the let the ship swallow what they make is as
it pertains today, but I haven't. Yeah, there's been no
comp communication with anybody from the Dage since since that
became a date. But you know, it's kind of just
like the week League Solf with Tay They you know,
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there's always in some sort of drama, But at the
end of the day, one seven doesn't create any.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Of Dallas Cowboys. How do you like him referring to
himself as one seven? Whatever? What?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Seven doesn't create any of it? So there are some
gambling odds starting to emerge.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The Jets our favorites because the Aaron Rodgers connection, you
feel that has any shot of happening?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, I mean, I think it would make the Jets better.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Clearly, Adams is a superstar. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The Steelers are an interesting team. They were heavily connected
to Brandon Ayuk. We don't know if Ayuk was using
them as leverage or if it was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, they have pickens. They don't need another number one.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Again, like a in a high leverage game against a
good team, you can remove from Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
If you're the Jets and you go get boxed by
the Vikings, then I think you have to make the move.
If I'm Dallas and Jerry today with twenty three million
caps pace, I don't even understand. If I'm Jerry Jones,
I'm making this deal as soon as and by the way,
Jerry has a business in Vegas. Jerry's in Vegas constantly.
He's got connections everywhere. Get on that get on that
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big old private gold stream, make it happen. Get Davonte
on that thing. And Telasco's the GM and Tom, you know,
Tom feels like he's got to rebuild. The Raiders also
can use additional draft picks a lot because they want
to move up because New England's going to get the
number one pick. So I'm thinking, if you're Telesco the GM,
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would you not You're not doing anything this year with
if once the Chargers tackles get healthy, they're better than you.
So my take is Telesco wants picks. Davante's made noise.
The Cowboys have a huge need. I'm Jerry. I send
the Gulf Stream to Vegas, make the call and get
him going to be a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Let me just back up to the Jets before getting Dallas.
I like a Bilow cell high. If you lose to
the Vikings, you get embarrassed. The price just went up
at Travonte. So if you don't want that, you beat
the Vikings, then you just call it they We'll give
you one for Devonte Adams Lobo offer.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We just got the win. We don't need to.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Why wouldn't Jerry send the plane today? Well, what are
you waiting for? Look at Dallas's schedule. What are you
waiting for?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What's their problem? Offense or defense?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Take it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Take your time for a sec. They got a lot
of defensive.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You just paid Dak what you paid him. You better
make Dak productive because you are spending top of the
market dollar. I can draft defense. Once Kansas City paid Mahomes,
they kept Chris Jones and just draft in defense. They'll
keep their defense young and keep drafting it. That's what
you do in the That's that is what you do
in the NFL. If you're gonna pay a Stafford, then
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you just draft your defense, maybe keep one great player.
That's kind of a trend.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Now, let the record state I believe Washington is a
legitimate landing spy.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think that would be super smart.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I also think the Chiefs have to make a call.
The Raiders gonna hang up.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's fine. How much root Hollywood? Brown's out, Rice is
out the money.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Dallas has twenty three million of cap space.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That's what a cathologist is for. Look around, move some
stuff around.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Come on, you, mister real estate mogul. Don't you do
that when you're making moves? Move stuff around?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Come on, move stuff around.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Come on, all right, next stuff is uh, let's go
to the Chiefs with racee.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Rice.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We don't know if he's out for the season, but
it it's like it's going to be a while. Peter
Schrager was here yesterday and said Brett Beach, the GM
is never afraid to pick up the phone. Andy Reid
is showing belief. However, in the weapons that Casey already has.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
That's that Xavier showed what he could do and do
some nice things as one of the primary receivers. We'll
see how see how he does. I mean, we've got
guys here that haven't experienced of playing in the game.
So I mean it's not that he's the only one.
That doesn't have to be the only one. So we've
got got a good group of guys there that we
uh we shun utilize and yeah, we we normally spread
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the ball around and that's what we'll continue to strive
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think Worthy doesn't feel like a volume guy. Six targets,
three catches. He's certainly an over the top.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh right, he's a burner.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
No, there's no there's no doubtinatal.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Other than him, who's your Rashi Rice was against the
zone he would sit.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do we have an official word on Rashi Rice.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, but it's going to be a long time bottom line.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So now you're looking at justin If rash Rice possibly
could come back, I wouldn't make a move. I think
they could stabilize here offensively and win enough games to
be a number two or three seed.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Watson, Juju Smith, Schuster, Sky Moore, Mikole Hardman, that's your
receiving group.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, at the bottom five in the league. If if
Rice came back in week fourteen, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, that might be too late.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I know the Chiefs fans hate me for what I
said yesterday about the playoffs. I don't think it's a
lot that they're like gonna be the number one seed
you get to the play.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, forget that. You don't think they're getting into the playoff.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It's not a lot, Colin. Look at the AFC. It's stacked,
and the Chiefs have no offense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's not that stacked.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You have you seen this first play schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Remember about a month ago when we thought the Jets
and the Dolphins were gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The Jets are still gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
We thought Jacksonville was gonna have a resurgence. About a
month ago, we thought the AFC was stacked. It ain't
so stacked.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
We'll wrap up with Anthony Richardson, who was drafted fourth
overall because of the dual threat ability.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Can't stay healthy, Colin.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
He's been knocked out of four more of eight games
he started in his career. And all four injuries happen
on quarterback runs. Hey, Shane Stiken, maybe you know notice
that Richardson's injury history is significant, but Stiken says, the
Colts don't want to limit his talents.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
There has a balance there and running a quarterback, but
it does add the element to our offense. You know
that he can make big time plays with his feet,
so we don't want to lose that. So we got
to go on to games obviously being smart and when
the opportunity is there, Obviously he knows he can run,
and obviously Ben to draw it back pass and he scrambles.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
He's going to take off and run two as well.
So we'll keep working through those things as we go
through this.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So you know what Richardson struggles with the short passes.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Are you ready for this stat I was watching the
telecast Cold Steelers Joe Flacco on short.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Passes to nine air yards.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Zero to nine twelve for twelve one hundred nine yards
two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Richardson ain't doing that well.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Flash go as your classic Andy Dalton. He's a pro.
You're not going to get You know, you have to
have the right O line protection. But we know this
to be true, you bring out a Flacco, Andy Dalton,
I mean Tyrod Taylor seemingly you put him on every
team and you look up and you're like, oh, they're
on a four game heater, Like there's just guys that
do this.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Skyler Thompson, Oh no, no, no, well that's not the
boy you're I gotta take shots at the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean that's a dumpster fire. I mean that is
a massive.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Prod Jets fan calling somebody else a dumpster fire. Yeah,
things are great in New York. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
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Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'll tell you a guy that you've popped. He was
he was a three star recruit as a broadcaster. He's
become a five star guy his first round. Mark Sanchez,
come on, that was a Joe. Mark you were you
were by the way. We loved you. We had no
idea what we had and then we looked up and
we got the Jalen Milroll here running throwing deep holy moment.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
And we'll talk about that during the break. Okay, let's
just keep it professional.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, So here's the thing, and now this I may
be reaching here, but if you're smiling already, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is a winner. He's the Jets last decade are
not winners. So Aaron Rodgers, all of a sudden, defensive
coach with a losing record at a press conference, says,
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I love the cadence and I'm thinking, come on now, now,
am I I wouldn't love that either. Is that just
my ego?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
No? No, you know who did a great job of
breaking this down. Who is our guy?
Speaker 9 (09:41):
Hassebeck talking about when you use cadence as a weapon,
if you're a veteran quarterback who's been in the league
twenty years or whatever it is for Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford,
these kind of veteran guys, you're gonna use your cadence
as a weapon.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
It has been a weapon for them.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
He threw a touchdown against San Francisco by getting up
to the line of scrimmage ready with a cadence. Guys
are still running off the field, getting guys to jump,
getting free plays, that's a part of Aaron's repertoire, right.
I think this leans lends into the New York media
blowing up one comment from the coach than getting Aaron
to comment back about it when they haven't spoken about it.
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So now it looks like a feud internally when really
it's an external issue. I'm not worried about Aaron Rodgers
and his cadence. I don't think Robert Saul is really
worried about Aaron Rodgers and the cadence. He just as
a defensive coach, is like, hey, guys, we've had thirteen
penalties in this game. So I'm on defense, some on
offense in an ugly game. Look at the weather. Look
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at I mean, it's completely pouring in this game. You're
gonna have to win ugly, which means don't beat yourself.
So I think he was more miffed with penalties in general,
and so when he says cadence, it happened to be
one of the ones that stuck out in his head
of using the cadence in plus territory. So what Matt
Hasselback said is when you're backed up and you use
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cadence on your minus five yard line, your toe, your
heels are almost on the goal line kind of thing.
If you jump off sides on offense, who cares? False start?
Who cares? You move back two yards? But if you're
on the other team's goal line and you move back
five yards, it really changes, right, So you try and
do it when you're on your own territory because there's
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less to lose, right, less risk. But I don't think
this is that big of an issue in general. The
bigger issue is learning how to win ugly, learning how
to make a kick in the rain. I mean, zerline,
you played pretty well, like I need that kick, man,
I need you here. It's an ugly game. It's a
ten to nine affair. It is nasty. Go find me
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a way to win. One more first down, one more completion,
a strain on a block here or there, a miss
field goal as opposed to a made field goal against
a rookie quarterback on the road.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
We got to have that win.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
Now, moving forward, turn the page as fast as you can,
stop reading the clippings, get out of the Daily News
and New York posts. Just move on with your life,
because you got a big one across the pond against
one of the hottest teams in the league in Minnesota.
Then they got the bills. Right, these two, these next
two games are really going to help shape their season.
But they're gonna need to remember this. So the word
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for them is compartmentalization. You gotta compartmentalize this game Buffalo
late in the year, maybe at home late in the
year in New England when they need a win late
in the year, raining, snowing, sleet, wintry mix, whatever the
heck it says on your iPhone out right, you gotta
remember how to win those games ugly and you can't
beat yourself. League average is five and a half penalties
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a game. Last year thirteen penalties, over double the league average.
That was a problem, not just one, you know, pre
snap penalty on a cadence issue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you do, I think the best job of any
analyst I've seen on any network describing why things are happening,
and I you really are good at this. My wife
doesn't even listen to me if he thinks I sell
on shit, Durrance, And then she'll be like, who's the
guy on the handsome guy that's on And I'm like, oh,
Mark Sanchez, and she's like, yeah, he explains it that
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I understand it. So sometimes things happen and I'm like,
I don't get it. I love Cliff Kingsbury as a
play caller. I thought Jayden Daniels would be good. I
didn't think it would be the greatest offense in league history.
What mark the run game? There's no contact for four
or five yards? Yeah, what are they doing?
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Second opportunity for Cliff Kingsbury. Look at Pete Carroll, second
opportunity in the NFL after going to New England, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Second opportunity.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Guys when they get their second shot, like Cliff Kingsbury,
you don't think they're taking notes the entire time about
where they missed? What could I have done better? Now,
not only do you take those notes and get better yourself,
but you enter a better situation with maybe a better
player at the quarterback position. Arguably similar traits. But a
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guy who has really taken of the football can run.
I mean we've seen him outrun SEC defenders playing Florida
last year when he was at LSU and just beating
him by five six yards down the stretch seventy yard
foot race.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (14:16):
So this kid has elite speed. He knows how to
get the ball out of his hands quickly. Cliff has
set him up that way, a ton of pure progressions
where he's just going one through five boom boom, boom boom.
I know exactly what it looks like. I know exactly
what I'm looking for. And then the run game, as
you mentioned, when you get a run game that can
help the quarterback like that, just like the Bears did
last week. I'm teasing those clips for the second part
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of this hit. Hereeah, but that it really is working together.
Being with somebody who's seen it before, who's been in
a Super Bowl game in Dan Quinn, who's won Super
Bowls as a coordinator. I mean, this guy understands it.
And now Cliff gets to go be a coordinator again
before potentially he gets to be a head coach again
down the line, and he's gotten better. He went back
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to college for a year, comes back to the NFL,
and he's ready to go. He has a guy that
can pull the trigger for him and he's setting him
up nicely, understanding that the defense is going to help
him out. That a run game can help you. You
don't have to throw it fifty times a game, but
when it calls for it, you got to be ready
to So I think there's a lot of reasons for
his success. Did anybody expect it to be the best
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in NFL history? No, of course not. That's the result,
But the process has gotten better. Too often we praise
the result. The process has gotten better, and a lot
of that has to do with the situation and then
Cliff Kingsbury's development and growth personally as a coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We try to fit people into boxes. We do this
with Jamie Fox early in his career. He can sing,
he can dance, he's funny, he can do a game show.
Jamie can do everything. We've done this with Lamar Sure,
he's this not this Mark. I watch him in the pocket.
I'm watching the videos we show he's a good pocket quarterback.
I mean, I didn't play the position, but I watch him.
There are guys I don't think see the field. He
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sees the field. I think he's underappreciated.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
I think he's getting better and better each season goes on.
Once again, he's getting more opportunities at it. I think
there's no reason not to expect these guys. I shouldn't
say that it's expected that they're going to win ten
to fourteen games a year. They're going to run the
heck out of the ball. He's going to extend plays whatever.
The key for me is just like in the championship
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game last year, can you beat people from the pocket
when it counts at the end of the year, in
those final four games where you play Kansas City and
you don't rush for two hundred yards Derrick Henry and
those extended plays get shut down by Chris Jones, you know,
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and you're siloed in the pocket, and you got to
drop back ten to fifteen times a game and deliver strikes.
And I need ten to twelve completions on those fifteen plays.
Sometimes you're conceding and just checking it down. Sometimes you're
ripping it down the field in tight windows. That's where
the growth is going to be. I'm expecting all this
stuff that we're seeing now, and he's progressing, he's going
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in the right direction, trending in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
But it's gonna matter at the end of the year.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Can he do it from the pocket when it counts
ten to fifteen plays a game, And that's where he's
really going to take the next step in his career.
This MVP type level of play that we're used to,
that's expected almost And I'm not saying that's, you know,
this easy, you know, accomplishable feat that's that's really tough
to do what they do, but show me it at
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the end of the year. I'm not taking anything away
from the guy's MVP last year, but you gotta do
it when it counts. And if he can do that,
he's gonna take that next step and be in a
completely different stratosphere as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm so fired up. He's a masterclass artist when it
comes to tape. I'm so fired up for this. I
saw my I get my little thing before you get
out here and it says Mark Scott go hot.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Did you touch it? I hope not. It was like a.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Never do it again.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Careful.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Now Mark's got tape next, it's The Herd.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right, Mark to do this without me, but I'm
just here to set him up. So he's got a
couple of pieces of tape, and I'm fascinated on this
because I do think Caleb felt like he got his
feet under him. He felt a little more poised. You're
going to describe it, So let's start with the first
piece of tape.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
Sure, So, essentially, you look at the formula to win.
We talk about on this show all the time. What's
their formula to win? With a rookie superstar quarterback, weapons
on offense, a punter who can kick it out of
the stadium and flip field position. A kicker in Cairo
Santo's that can get you three points on the regular
as soon as you cross the forty yard line. I mean,
you have options. Plus a defense that led the league
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in interceptions last year. They get takeaways, you're going to
get free possessions. Take care of the football and make
me really good decisions, especially third and long. Go ahead
and roll the tape. So look at the situation here.
They're down six, it's a one score game, second quarter
at home. Soldier Field fans.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Are a little shaky, right, you've dropped the last two.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Games on the road. But these Rams defenders have done
a good job all game so far, toggling their safeties,
rocking and rolling their safety's disguising looks. Does it look
like pressure kind of, But what do they do. They're
gonna blow out of their bluffet, which means you're gonna
get exaggerated zone drops. These guys got to really high
tail it out from the line of scrimmage. And then
look at the play call Zebra personnel, which is eleven
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one back, one tight end, three receivers, gun trips left,
why off close, seventy five pepper x deep cross backs cross.
It's a lot to say, right, it's a lot to
spin out, a lot to spit out. So here's the
routes in accordance with the play call. You're getting double posts,
the two p's and Dipper tell you the post. That's
number one, your big post option. Remember it's third to nine.
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You got to throw the ball down the field. Potentially,
there's your seam post, which is more of like a
blit zero. Answer number three is DJ Moore ripping across
the field on a deep crosser. That's why you say
close in the formation to remind him to close his split.
Then he got the tight end and the halfback crossing
each other. In case you get man demand to get
a natural pick. Reminder that in seventy five protection out
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of the gun these guys are gonna chip on their
way out, so they're gonna help the tackles. While Caleb's
looking down the field reading this deep post scene posts
and deep.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Cross one, two and three. I love his eyes.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
I love him defining five steps in his drop, understanding
that there's wide expansive zone drops nothing's open downfield. One,
two and three are dead to me. I got to
get to number four. Where's Cole Comet right there? I
want to throw it to him, but Quinton Lake's right
in front of him. Where's my back? I get all
the way to number five on this give him a
catchable ball. Shout out to Roshawn Johnson for going up
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and plucking this thing out of the air because it's
not the best ball, but he keeps his momentum going forward,
one foot in the ground, split defenders, go get me
a first down. He threw a four yards to gain
nine yards right, a lot. That's a lot right in
just one play. Now this is where the Bears hurt themselves.
That play was negated.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I had to show it. I didn't want to.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
I didn't want to be Debbie Downer from the jump,
But the play was negated because Darnell right, the right
tackle lined up too far back, illegal formation. Those are
the kind of things they need to eliminate. The pre
snap penalties. There were number four in the league coming
into the game on pre snap penalties. They need to
cut those out. But that shows me right there that
Caleb Williams is seeing it. They're giving him full field reads.
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He's understanding the situation and the down and distance. That
was perfect and so much growth compared to the last
couple weeks. Even from the first week. He didn't turn
it over. They won the game. He threw it twenty
three times. Twenty three times, not fifty plus, not three
hundred and sixty plus yards. Okay, fine, it's not your
best stat line, but the most important one is the
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w in the win call.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
It's all right, yeah, so I loved what he did there.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Okay, Now we get into the next play down near
the goal line. This is another crucial third down. Go
ahead and roll the tape. We're in the low red
zone and it's empty formation. Nobody's next to the quarterback.
I want you to see how they align in empty formation.
They're out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends,
two receivers, now they put the tight ends in unique spots,
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the tight ends in the slot up top, and he's
number two in middle of those three receivers at the
bottom of the screen. So that's gonna tell me manner
zone tells. Okay, that's gonna give me some information. You
got five guys sniffing around the line of scrimmage. Everybody
else is playing Manda man over there, player, Okay, look
for mismatches. We got one rover in the back of
the field. He's just gonna read the quarterback's eyes. So
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they give him a full field read, which is gonna
allow him to have a natural lookoff. He's gonna start
up top on a slant route to Gerald Everett. His
next look is gonna be another full field read. He's
going left to right like a sprinkler across the lawn.
Just tick tick tick tick tick all the way across
the lawn, hanging there, and then you're gonna go from
the slant to the stick nod down here to Dj Moore.
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The slant's job is to win across the backer's face.
He's got a beat reader on the slant. He feels
the safety helping out Boom. Get to my next guy,
shift your eyes to number two.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
And who is that? DJ Moore on a stick? Nod
on Rose Boom.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
A backer hold on DJ Moore responsible for forty percent
of your offense on a backer on a stick.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Not a double move. This guy's gonna stick with my
guy Hill.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
No, he's not watched his throw back end line over
the top credit to rose Boom. He played this much
better than most backers. He's all over him, right, So
where do you throw that ball? Back end line throws
face mask and higher. If I'm being hyper critical, I'd
say throw it even a little bit higher because he
almost tipped it away. Front end line throws they got
to be down and dirty. It's got to look like
a tag at home plate in baseball, right, They got
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to be low belt loop.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
And lower numbers and lower.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
This was so good by Caleb understanding what was going on,
seeing the whole field getting from one to two quickly
and cutting the ball looser.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
It could I just argue the kid needed four weeks
that all that information. Maybe he just needed.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Everybody needs time on task for this stuff. Some guys
get it week one, some guys get a week eighteen.
It doesn't matter how it happens, but you got to
give him some structure set him up for success. They
did better on first down. They're more productive on first
down when they didn't have pre snap penalties. Game, the
run game was great. I think shout out to the
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offensive line, to Chad Morton, the running backs coach, to
Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator, who took a ton of
heat last week for their execution on the goal line.
They looked much better this week.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And then you know.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Carrie Joseph, the quarterback coach, a quarterback in his own right,
was a stud in the CFL won a great cup,
like he knows how to play this position, and they
helped him out by setting him up with great concepts
where he could see the whole field, get through pure
progression reads and check the ball down if he needed to,
and pierce the defense with a great throw when he
needed to.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So it was much better outfit. Not as many.
Speaker 9 (24:37):
Throws, calculated effort, and what do you know, ibra flus
in this defense, they take the ball away a couple
of times. They win on a turnover, although it could
have been an illegal hit on the quarterback, but that
was the story of the game to me. Is finding
a winning formula in Chicago. That's going to be what
it looks like, especially when you can kind of keep
the game close the whole time. Now there's going to
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be a point where he has to put it up
fifty times a game because you're chasing points and you
get down fourteen early and boom, Okay, we got to
get into more of a wide open, spread them out
kind of mode.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
But this game was.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
I mean, they put their foot in the ground and
ran north and south and I loved it. No more
dancing in the hole, run behind seventy nine prior and
just get me as many yards as you can get
me to second and third and manageable.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
And Caleb played great.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think you really compartmentalized it well early. The punter's great, the.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Field goal kicker lock working in his favor.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I think you know I've said this about the heat
on Eberflus. The first thing I look for a coach
is does he does he own his side of the ball.
McDermott made Buffalo's defense very good. There's some things I
can complain about. Lincoln Riley offense is good. Like when
I watch Chicago and eber Flues, they have a great
corner in Jalen Sweat. But the defense is it's fastened.
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The alignment they make place.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
And they're helping him out with little stuff like the wristband.
We talked about that call. Look at this call.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Say this call back, Hey, Zebra personnel trips left off,
So kayleb Zebra gun trips left off close seventy five pepper.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So Caleb's naxt cross backscross.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
You got a lot to say, and if you need
to hear that from the coordinator twice and then go
into the huddle and then go up to the line
of scrimmage. I mean you're scrambling just to make it
to the line of scrimmage and diagnose the defense and boom,
you got to snap the ball. It's a delay a game.
So now they're using the wristband. It's much easier. It's
written out for him. He can study it the night
before and he's got these calls, memorize more or less,
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and it makes it much easier for his process.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Mark Sanchez, you want to come back tomorrow and just
fill three hours. I mean it's seriously.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It told you I was bringing something good today.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Something more than something. See you tomorrow.
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
News, No turns. This is the Herd line. He brings tape.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Azola's Yeah, excited for that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Well, I'm also excited for this DeVante Adams saga go on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's heating up.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The Raiders are apparently open to shopping DeVante Adams. Just today,
the Las Vegas Journal Review was reporting the team has
started reaching out to other teams to gauge interest in
trading for the thirty one year old receiver. Yesterday, Antonio Pierce, Yes,
the coach of the Raiders, liked an Instagram post of
DeVante Adams trade rumors. I find that hard to believe
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he could have had a fat finger situation. I don't know,
but earlier today, Colin, this is crazy. DeVante Adams was
asked if he and Antonio Pierce had talked about the
post or the trade rumors.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here's Davante.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's one of those situations where I just keep my
head and keep doing my thing, and uh, you know,
the let the ship swallow what they make is as
it pertains today, but I haven't. Yeah, there's been no
comp communication with anybody from the Dage since since that
became a date. But you know, it's kind of just
like the week League Solf with Tay They you know,
(01:48):
there's always in some sort of drama, But at the
end of the day, one seven doesn't create any.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Of Dallas Cowboys. How do you like him referring to
himself as one seven? Whatever? What?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Seven doesn't create any of it? So there are some
gambling odds starting to emerge.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
The Jets our favorites because the Aaron Rodgers connection, you
feel that has any shot of happening?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, I mean, I think it would make the Jets better.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Clearly, Adams is a superstar. Now.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
The Steelers are an interesting team. They were heavily connected
to Brandon Ayuk. We don't know if Ayuk was using
them as leverage or if it was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, they have pickens. They don't need another number one.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Again, like a in a high leverage game against a
good team, you can remove from Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
If you're the Jets and you go get boxed by
the Vikings, then I think you have to make the move.
If I'm Dallas and Jerry today with twenty three million
caps pace, I don't even understand. If I'm Jerry Jones,
I'm making this deal as soon as and by the way,
Jerry has a business in Vegas. Jerry's in Vegas constantly.
He's got connections everywhere. Get on that get on that
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big old private gold stream, make it happen. Get Davonte
on that thing. And Telasco's the GM and Tom, you know,
Tom feels like he's got to rebuild. The Raiders also
can use additional draft picks a lot because they want
to move up because New England's going to get the
number one pick. So I'm thinking, if you're Telesco the GM,
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would you not You're not doing anything this year with
if once the Chargers tackles get healthy, they're better than you.
So my take is Telesco wants picks. Davante's made noise.
The Cowboys have a huge need. I'm Jerry. I send
the Gulf Stream to Vegas, make the call and get
him going to be a cowboy.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Let me just back up to the Jets before getting Dallas.
I like a Bilow cell high. If you lose to
the Vikings, you get embarrassed. The price just went up
at Travonte. So if you don't want that, you beat
the Vikings, then you just call it they We'll give
you one for Devonte Adams Lobo offer.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We just got the win. We don't need to.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Why wouldn't Jerry send the plane today? Well, what are
you waiting for? Look at Dallas's schedule. What are you
waiting for?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What's their problem? Offense or defense?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Take it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Take your time for a sec. They got a lot
of defensive.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You just paid Dak what you paid him. You better
make Dak productive because you are spending top of the
market dollar. I can draft defense. Once Kansas City paid Mahomes,
they kept Chris Jones and just draft in defense. They'll
keep their defense young and keep drafting it. That's what
you do in the That's that is what you do
in the NFL. If you're gonna pay a Stafford, then
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you just draft your defense, maybe keep one great player.
That's kind of a trend.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Now, let the record state I believe Washington is a
legitimate landing spy.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I think that would be super smart.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I also think the Chiefs have to make a call.
The Raiders gonna hang up.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's fine. How much root Hollywood? Brown's out, Rice is
out the money.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Dallas has twenty three million of cap space.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That's what a cathologist is for. Look around, move some
stuff around.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Come on, you, mister real estate mogul. Don't you do
that when you're making moves? Move stuff around?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Come on, move stuff around.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Come on, all right, next stuff is uh, let's go
to the Chiefs with racee.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Rice.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
We don't know if he's out for the season, but
it it's like it's going to be a while. Peter
Schrager was here yesterday and said Brett Beach, the GM
is never afraid to pick up the phone. Andy Reid
is showing belief. However, in the weapons that Casey already has.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
That's that Xavier showed what he could do and do
some nice things as one of the primary receivers. We'll
see how see how he does. I mean, we've got
guys here that haven't experienced of playing in the game.
So I mean it's not that he's the only one.
That doesn't have to be the only one. So we've
got got a good group of guys there that we
uh we shun utilize and yeah, we we normally spread
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the ball around and that's what we'll continue to strive
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I think Worthy doesn't feel like a volume guy. Six targets,
three catches. He's certainly an over the top.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh right, he's a burner.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
No, there's no there's no doubtinatal.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Other than him, who's your Rashi Rice was against the
zone he would sit.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do we have an official word on Rashi Rice.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
No, but it's going to be a long time bottom line.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So now you're looking at justin If rash Rice possibly
could come back, I wouldn't make a move. I think
they could stabilize here offensively and win enough games to
be a number two or three seed.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Watson, Juju Smith, Schuster, Sky Moore, Mikole Hardman, that's your
receiving group.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, at the bottom five in the league. If if
Rice came back in week fourteen, I'm good with it.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, that might be too late.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I know the Chiefs fans hate me for what I
said yesterday about the playoffs. I don't think it's a
lot that they're like gonna be the number one seed
you get to the play.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Well, forget that. You don't think they're getting into the playoff.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It's not a lot, Colin. Look at the AFC. It's stacked,
and the Chiefs have no offense.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's not that stacked.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You have you seen this first play schedule.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Remember about a month ago when we thought the Jets
and the Dolphins were gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The Jets are still gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
The Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
We thought Jacksonville was gonna have a resurgence. About a
month ago, we thought the AFC was stacked. It ain't
so stacked.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
We'll wrap up with Anthony Richardson, who was drafted fourth
overall because of the dual threat ability.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Can't stay healthy, Colin.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
He's been knocked out of four more of eight games
he started in his career. And all four injuries happen
on quarterback runs. Hey, Shane Stiken, maybe you know notice
that Richardson's injury history is significant, but Stiken says, the
Colts don't want to limit his talents.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
There has a balance there and running a quarterback, but
it does add the element to our offense. You know
that he can make big time plays with his feet,
so we don't want to lose that. So we got
to go on to games obviously being smart and when
the opportunity is there, Obviously he knows he can run,
and obviously Ben to draw it back pass and he scrambles.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
He's going to take off and run two as well.
So we'll keep working through those things as we go
through this.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
So you know what Richardson struggles with the short passes.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Are you ready for this stat I was watching the
telecast Cold Steelers Joe Flacco on short.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Passes to nine air yards.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Zero to nine twelve for twelve one hundred nine yards
two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Richardson ain't doing that well.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Flash go as your classic Andy Dalton. He's a pro.
You're not going to get You know, you have to
have the right O line protection. But we know this
to be true, you bring out a Flacco, Andy Dalton,
I mean Tyrod Taylor seemingly you put him on every
team and you look up and you're like, oh, they're
on a four game heater, Like there's just guys that
do this.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Skyler Thompson, Oh no, no, no, well that's not the
boy you're I gotta take shots at the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I mean that's a dumpster fire. I mean that is
a massive.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Prod Jets fan calling somebody else a dumpster fire. Yeah,
things are great in New York. J Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the
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Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'll tell you a guy that you've popped. He was
he was a three star recruit as a broadcaster. He's
become a five star guy his first round. Mark Sanchez,
come on, that was a Joe. Mark you were you
were by the way. We loved you. We had no
idea what we had and then we looked up and
we got the Jalen Milroll here running throwing deep holy moment.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
And we'll talk about that during the break. Okay, let's
just keep it professional.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, So here's the thing, and now this I may
be reaching here, but if you're smiling already, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers is a winner. He's the Jets last decade are
not winners. So Aaron Rodgers, all of a sudden, defensive
coach with a losing record at a press conference, says,
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I love the cadence and I'm thinking, come on now, now,
am I I wouldn't love that either. Is that just
my ego?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
No? No, you know who did a great job of
breaking this down. Who is our guy?
Speaker 9 (09:41):
Hassebeck talking about when you use cadence as a weapon,
if you're a veteran quarterback who's been in the league
twenty years or whatever it is for Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford,
these kind of veteran guys, you're gonna use your cadence
as a weapon.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
It has been a weapon for them.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
He threw a touchdown against San Francisco by getting up
to the line of scrimmage ready with a cadence. Guys
are still running off the field, getting guys to jump,
getting free plays, that's a part of Aaron's repertoire, right.
I think this leans lends into the New York media
blowing up one comment from the coach than getting Aaron
to comment back about it when they haven't spoken about it.
(10:18):
So now it looks like a feud internally when really
it's an external issue. I'm not worried about Aaron Rodgers
and his cadence. I don't think Robert Saul is really
worried about Aaron Rodgers and the cadence. He just as
a defensive coach, is like, hey, guys, we've had thirteen
penalties in this game. So I'm on defense, some on
offense in an ugly game. Look at the weather. Look
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at I mean, it's completely pouring in this game. You're
gonna have to win ugly, which means don't beat yourself.
So I think he was more miffed with penalties in general,
and so when he says cadence, it happened to be
one of the ones that stuck out in his head
of using the cadence in plus territory. So what Matt
Hasselback said is when you're backed up and you use
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cadence on your minus five yard line, your toe, your
heels are almost on the goal line kind of thing.
If you jump off sides on offense, who cares? False start?
Who cares? You move back two yards? But if you're
on the other team's goal line and you move back
five yards, it really changes, right, So you try and
do it when you're on your own territory because there's
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less to lose, right, less risk. But I don't think
this is that big of an issue in general. The
bigger issue is learning how to win ugly, learning how
to make a kick in the rain. I mean, zerline,
you played pretty well, like I need that kick, man,
I need you here. It's an ugly game. It's a
ten to nine affair. It is nasty. Go find me
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a way to win. One more first down, one more completion,
a strain on a block here or there, a miss
field goal as opposed to a made field goal against
a rookie quarterback on the road.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
We got to have that win.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
Now, moving forward, turn the page as fast as you can,
stop reading the clippings, get out of the Daily News
and New York posts. Just move on with your life,
because you got a big one across the pond against
one of the hottest teams in the league in Minnesota.
Then they got the bills. Right, these two, these next
two games are really going to help shape their season.
But they're gonna need to remember this. So the word
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for them is compartmentalization. You gotta compartmentalize this game Buffalo
late in the year, maybe at home late in the
year in New England when they need a win late
in the year, raining, snowing, sleet, wintry mix, whatever the
heck it says on your iPhone out right, you gotta
remember how to win those games ugly and you can't
beat yourself. League average is five and a half penalties
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a game. Last year thirteen penalties, over double the league average.
That was a problem, not just one, you know, pre
snap penalty on a cadence issue in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So you do, I think the best job of any
analyst I've seen on any network describing why things are happening,
and I you really are good at this. My wife
doesn't even listen to me if he thinks I sell
on shit, Durrance, And then she'll be like, who's the
guy on the handsome guy that's on And I'm like, oh,
Mark Sanchez, and she's like, yeah, he explains it that
(13:07):
I understand it. So sometimes things happen and I'm like,
I don't get it. I love Cliff Kingsbury as a
play caller. I thought Jayden Daniels would be good. I
didn't think it would be the greatest offense in league history.
What mark the run game? There's no contact for four
or five yards? Yeah, what are they doing?
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Second opportunity for Cliff Kingsbury. Look at Pete Carroll, second
opportunity in the NFL after going to New England, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Second opportunity.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Guys when they get their second shot, like Cliff Kingsbury,
you don't think they're taking notes the entire time about
where they missed? What could I have done better? Now,
not only do you take those notes and get better yourself,
but you enter a better situation with maybe a better
player at the quarterback position. Arguably similar traits. But a
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guy who has really taken of the football can run.
I mean we've seen him outrun SEC defenders playing Florida
last year when he was at LSU and just beating
him by five six yards down the stretch seventy yard
foot race.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (14:16):
So this kid has elite speed. He knows how to
get the ball out of his hands quickly. Cliff has
set him up that way, a ton of pure progressions
where he's just going one through five boom boom, boom boom.
I know exactly what it looks like. I know exactly
what I'm looking for. And then the run game, as
you mentioned, when you get a run game that can
help the quarterback like that, just like the Bears did
last week. I'm teasing those clips for the second part
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of this hit. Hereeah, but that it really is working together.
Being with somebody who's seen it before, who's been in
a Super Bowl game in Dan Quinn, who's won Super
Bowls as a coordinator. I mean, this guy understands it.
And now Cliff gets to go be a coordinator again
before potentially he gets to be a head coach again
down the line, and he's gotten better. He went back
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to college for a year, comes back to the NFL,
and he's ready to go. He has a guy that
can pull the trigger for him and he's setting him
up nicely, understanding that the defense is going to help
him out. That a run game can help you. You
don't have to throw it fifty times a game, but
when it calls for it, you got to be ready
to So I think there's a lot of reasons for
his success. Did anybody expect it to be the best
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in NFL history? No, of course not. That's the result,
But the process has gotten better. Too often we praise
the result. The process has gotten better, and a lot
of that has to do with the situation and then
Cliff Kingsbury's development and growth personally as a coordinator.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We try to fit people into boxes. We do this
with Jamie Fox early in his career. He can sing,
he can dance, he's funny, he can do a game show.
Jamie can do everything. We've done this with Lamar Sure,
he's this not this Mark. I watch him in the pocket.
I'm watching the videos we show he's a good pocket quarterback.
I mean, I didn't play the position, but I watch him.
There are guys I don't think see the field. He
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sees the field. I think he's underappreciated.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Well.
Speaker 9 (15:58):
I think he's getting better and better each season goes on.
Once again, he's getting more opportunities at it. I think
there's no reason not to expect these guys. I shouldn't
say that it's expected that they're going to win ten
to fourteen games a year. They're going to run the
heck out of the ball. He's going to extend plays whatever.
The key for me is just like in the championship
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game last year, can you beat people from the pocket
when it counts at the end of the year, in
those final four games where you play Kansas City and
you don't rush for two hundred yards Derrick Henry and
those extended plays get shut down by Chris Jones, you know,
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and you're siloed in the pocket, and you got to
drop back ten to fifteen times a game and deliver strikes.
And I need ten to twelve completions on those fifteen plays.
Sometimes you're conceding and just checking it down. Sometimes you're
ripping it down the field in tight windows. That's where
the growth is going to be. I'm expecting all this
stuff that we're seeing now, and he's progressing, he's going
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in the right direction, trending in the right direction.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
But it's gonna matter at the end of the year.
Speaker 9 (17:04):
Can he do it from the pocket when it counts
ten to fifteen plays a game, And that's where he's
really going to take the next step in his career.
This MVP type level of play that we're used to,
that's expected almost And I'm not saying that's, you know,
this easy, you know, accomplishable feat that's that's really tough
to do what they do, but show me it at
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the end of the year. I'm not taking anything away
from the guy's MVP last year, but you gotta do
it when it counts. And if he can do that,
he's gonna take that next step and be in a
completely different stratosphere as a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm so fired up. He's a masterclass artist when it
comes to tape. I'm so fired up for this. I
saw my I get my little thing before you get
out here and it says Mark Scott go hot.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Did you touch it? I hope not. It was like a.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Never do it again.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Careful.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Now Mark's got tape next, it's The Herd.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right, Mark to do this without me, but I'm
just here to set him up. So he's got a
couple of pieces of tape, and I'm fascinated on this
because I do think Caleb felt like he got his
feet under him. He felt a little more poised. You're
going to describe it, So let's start with the first
piece of tape.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
Sure, So, essentially, you look at the formula to win.
We talk about on this show all the time. What's
their formula to win? With a rookie superstar quarterback, weapons
on offense, a punter who can kick it out of
the stadium and flip field position. A kicker in Cairo
Santo's that can get you three points on the regular
as soon as you cross the forty yard line. I mean,
you have options. Plus a defense that led the league
(18:35):
in interceptions last year. They get takeaways, you're going to
get free possessions. Take care of the football and make
me really good decisions, especially third and long. Go ahead
and roll the tape. So look at the situation here.
They're down six, it's a one score game, second quarter
at home. Soldier Field fans.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Are a little shaky, right, you've dropped the last two.
Speaker 9 (18:52):
Games on the road. But these Rams defenders have done
a good job all game so far, toggling their safeties,
rocking and rolling their safety's disguising looks. Does it look
like pressure kind of, But what do they do. They're
gonna blow out of their bluffet, which means you're gonna
get exaggerated zone drops. These guys got to really high
tail it out from the line of scrimmage. And then
look at the play call Zebra personnel, which is eleven
(19:14):
one back, one tight end, three receivers, gun trips left,
why off close, seventy five pepper x deep cross backs cross.
It's a lot to say, right, it's a lot to
spin out, a lot to spit out. So here's the
routes in accordance with the play call. You're getting double posts,
the two p's and Dipper tell you the post. That's
number one, your big post option. Remember it's third to nine.
(19:34):
You got to throw the ball down the field. Potentially,
there's your seam post, which is more of like a
blit zero. Answer number three is DJ Moore ripping across
the field on a deep crosser. That's why you say
close in the formation to remind him to close his split.
Then he got the tight end and the halfback crossing
each other. In case you get man demand to get
a natural pick. Reminder that in seventy five protection out
(19:55):
of the gun these guys are gonna chip on their
way out, so they're gonna help the tackles. While Caleb's
looking down the field reading this deep post scene posts
and deep.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Cross one, two and three. I love his eyes.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
I love him defining five steps in his drop, understanding
that there's wide expansive zone drops nothing's open downfield. One,
two and three are dead to me. I got to
get to number four. Where's Cole Comet right there? I
want to throw it to him, but Quinton Lake's right
in front of him. Where's my back? I get all
the way to number five on this give him a
catchable ball. Shout out to Roshawn Johnson for going up
(20:28):
and plucking this thing out of the air because it's
not the best ball, but he keeps his momentum going forward,
one foot in the ground, split defenders, go get me
a first down. He threw a four yards to gain
nine yards right, a lot. That's a lot right in
just one play. Now this is where the Bears hurt themselves.
That play was negated.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I had to show it. I didn't want to.
Speaker 9 (20:48):
I didn't want to be Debbie Downer from the jump,
But the play was negated because Darnell right, the right
tackle lined up too far back, illegal formation. Those are
the kind of things they need to eliminate. The pre
snap penalties. There were number four in the league coming
into the game on pre snap penalties. They need to
cut those out. But that shows me right there that
Caleb Williams is seeing it. They're giving him full field reads.
(21:08):
He's understanding the situation and the down and distance. That
was perfect and so much growth compared to the last
couple weeks. Even from the first week. He didn't turn
it over. They won the game. He threw it twenty
three times. Twenty three times, not fifty plus, not three
hundred and sixty plus yards. Okay, fine, it's not your
best stat line, but the most important one is the
(21:31):
w in the win call.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
It's all right, yeah, so I loved what he did there.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Okay, Now we get into the next play down near
the goal line. This is another crucial third down. Go
ahead and roll the tape. We're in the low red
zone and it's empty formation. Nobody's next to the quarterback.
I want you to see how they align in empty formation.
They're out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends,
two receivers, now they put the tight ends in unique spots,
(21:57):
the tight ends in the slot up top, and he's
number two in middle of those three receivers at the
bottom of the screen. So that's gonna tell me manner
zone tells. Okay, that's gonna give me some information. You
got five guys sniffing around the line of scrimmage. Everybody
else is playing Manda man over there, player, Okay, look
for mismatches. We got one rover in the back of
the field. He's just gonna read the quarterback's eyes. So
(22:18):
they give him a full field read, which is gonna
allow him to have a natural lookoff. He's gonna start
up top on a slant route to Gerald Everett. His
next look is gonna be another full field read. He's
going left to right like a sprinkler across the lawn.
Just tick tick tick tick tick all the way across
the lawn, hanging there, and then you're gonna go from
the slant to the stick nod down here to Dj Moore.
(22:39):
The slant's job is to win across the backer's face.
He's got a beat reader on the slant. He feels
the safety helping out Boom. Get to my next guy,
shift your eyes to number two.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
And who is that? DJ Moore on a stick? Nod
on Rose Boom.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
A backer hold on DJ Moore responsible for forty percent
of your offense on a backer on a stick.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Not a double move. This guy's gonna stick with my
guy Hill.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
No, he's not watched his throw back end line over
the top credit to rose Boom. He played this much
better than most backers. He's all over him, right, So
where do you throw that ball? Back end line throws
face mask and higher. If I'm being hyper critical, I'd
say throw it even a little bit higher because he
almost tipped it away. Front end line throws they got
to be down and dirty. It's got to look like
a tag at home plate in baseball, right, They got
(23:25):
to be low belt loop.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
And lower numbers and lower.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
This was so good by Caleb understanding what was going on,
seeing the whole field getting from one to two quickly
and cutting the ball looser.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
It could I just argue the kid needed four weeks
that all that information. Maybe he just needed.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Everybody needs time on task for this stuff. Some guys
get it week one, some guys get a week eighteen.
It doesn't matter how it happens, but you got to
give him some structure set him up for success. They
did better on first down. They're more productive on first
down when they didn't have pre snap penalties. Game, the
run game was great. I think shout out to the
(24:02):
offensive line, to Chad Morton, the running backs coach, to
Shane Waldron, the offensive coordinator, who took a ton of
heat last week for their execution on the goal line.
They looked much better this week.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And then you know.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Carrie Joseph, the quarterback coach, a quarterback in his own right,
was a stud in the CFL won a great cup,
like he knows how to play this position, and they
helped him out by setting him up with great concepts
where he could see the whole field, get through pure
progression reads and check the ball down if he needed to,
and pierce the defense with a great throw when he
needed to.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So it was much better outfit. Not as many.
Speaker 9 (24:37):
Throws, calculated effort, and what do you know, ibra flus
in this defense, they take the ball away a couple
of times. They win on a turnover, although it could
have been an illegal hit on the quarterback, but that
was the story of the game to me. Is finding
a winning formula in Chicago. That's going to be what
it looks like, especially when you can kind of keep
the game close the whole time. Now there's going to
(24:58):
be a point where he has to put it up
fifty times a game because you're chasing points and you
get down fourteen early and boom, Okay, we got to
get into more of a wide open, spread them out
kind of mode.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
But this game was.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
I mean, they put their foot in the ground and
ran north and south and I loved it. No more
dancing in the hole, run behind seventy nine prior and
just get me as many yards as you can get
me to second and third and manageable.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
And Caleb played great.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think you really compartmentalized it well early. The punter's great, the.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Field goal kicker lock working in his favor.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I think you know I've said this about the heat
on Eberflus. The first thing I look for a coach
is does he does he own his side of the ball.
McDermott made Buffalo's defense very good. There's some things I
can complain about. Lincoln Riley offense is good. Like when
I watch Chicago and eber Flues, they have a great
corner in Jalen Sweat. But the defense is it's fastened.
(25:47):
The alignment they make place.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
And they're helping him out with little stuff like the wristband.
We talked about that call. Look at this call.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
Say this call back, Hey, Zebra personnel trips left off,
So kayleb Zebra gun trips left off close seventy five pepper.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
So Caleb's naxt cross backscross.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
You got a lot to say, and if you need
to hear that from the coordinator twice and then go
into the huddle and then go up to the line
of scrimmage. I mean you're scrambling just to make it
to the line of scrimmage and diagnose the defense and boom,
you got to snap the ball. It's a delay a game.
So now they're using the wristband. It's much easier. It's
written out for him. He can study it the night
before and he's got these calls, memorize more or less,
(26:30):
and it makes it much easier for his process.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Mark Sanchez, you want to come back tomorrow and just
fill three hours. I mean it's seriously.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
It told you I was bringing something good today.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Something more than something. See you tomorrow.
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