October 7, 2024 • 38 mins
Colin can't believe the Steelers still have not embraced offensive football in today's NFL after they struggled to move the ball against a banged-up Cowboys defense. He tells you why he was right about Aaron Rodgers and wrong about USC. Plus, 3-time Super Bowl champion Michael Irvin joins the show in studio to defend his Cowboys and talk about the reeling Jets after Rodgers throws 3 INTs
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Couple hours, Michael Irvin stops by his Miami Hurricanes and
Dallas Cowboys. He is feeling it today one hour from now.
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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, there's plenty
of both, jamac h. I guess it's a win for
the Cowboys. I could not take my eyes off that
outdated is kind to the Steelers offense. Everything's set up
for them to win. That game left me speechless. I
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couldn't sleep last night. It was who ticked off at
the Pittsburgh Steelers Colin. Oh my gosh, the Steelers offense
this morning should be humiliated, should be completely embarrassed. Their
defense picked off a couple of balls, blocks a kick
three times. The Cowboys in the red zone with Dak
Prescott Ceedee Lamp get no points. Michah Parsons is out,
DeMarcus Lawrence is out. You're at home. It is perfect.
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The Cowboys are reeling. It's perfect. And the Pittsburgh offense,
the nineteen seventy seven Pittsburgh offense engineered ninety seven yards
atrocious on third down, four yards of play against the
Dallas team without their top dude defenders. Pittsburgh's offensive line shocker.
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It stinks for years. The only happy Steelers should be
Russell Wilson, because at least he'll eventually get to play.
Pittsburgh's offense is the flip phone of the league. What
do they do well? It looks outdated, It's incredible. Since
Terry Bradshaw retired in nineteen eighty three until today, they've
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had twenty five different quarterbacks. I counted last night. Maybe
I'm off one or two. Twenty five one has been exceptional,
Big Ben one of twenty five. Green Bay's like three
for its last three. So you know this was not
about the Cowboys excellence. They handed the game to Pittsburgh.
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But Dak, a real pro, said for years he's the
Kirk Cousins with a bigger brand, a star on the helmet.
He's a pro high EQ, high IQ. He doesn't have
to play well in long stretches. He is stoic, he
is unflappable. He can stink. He can argue with Ceedee
Lamb for an hour. Jerry can be doing silly stuff.
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McCarthy can butcher play calling in clock management, but Dak
will show up, grind it out fifteen plays and you
win the game. And I find with Pittsburgh, and you
see this with a lot of businesses, their strengths are
actually their weakness. Their strength is they're tough and physical.
Their weaknesses they rely on that too often. Tough and physical.
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How about smart, thoughtful, clever On offense, once again, the
Steelers lead the NFL in defensive spending in twenty twenty four,
and once again their last in offensive spending. Sometimes I
think they actually believe you could just rub dirt on
it and it'll be better. That's the culture. Mike Tomlin's
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great at the podium and he's got you know, trophies.
But cultures change and move. That game was there no Micah,
no Novarcus Lawrence, multiple picks at home block a kick,
Cowboys kind of reeling. Seed and Dak got into an argument,
and I don't know if it was intentional, but Ceedee
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Lamb was a non factor in the second half and
Mike Parsons was out And that's what you generated offensively.
And by the way, Arthur Smith, the Steelers offensive coordinator,
he made Ryan Tannehill four or five years ago a
pro bowler in the AFC. In the AFC made him
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a pro bowler. It's not the OC, it's the culture.
It's drawn. Plays up in the dirt is what it
looks like. That was embarrassing. Steelers defense always does their job,
rarely embarrasses themselves in a division now with a bunch
of bad defenses, Pittsburgh's is always tough and reliable and physical.
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What a mess. And stop telling me Tomlins never had
a losing season. Raise your standards. Here's the coach after.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There's a fine line between drink and wine and squashing
grapes and our business. And you know that's an example
of it. You know that ball is on the ground
right there in the red area, and that's the difference.
It was a hard fart game tonight. But it's not
mystical about the outcome. I just thought we didn't do
enough over sixty minutes to position ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Listen, there are wins where you lose star players and
they're like bad wins, and there are losses where you
look up and you're like, we're better than we thought.
That was an atrocious loss. Hand to do you and
you wouldn't take it ninety seven yards against that defense. Wow?
All right, So I kind of like getting up watching
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games at six thirty. If you give me a good game,
I love that. Of course, Aaron Rodgers does not love that,
because that one's on him. Three point six yards of play,
thirty six yards rushing. And we talk about this all
the time. When Aaron throws a couple of picks, dude,
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he his body language tanks. He gets very cool and
breezy with his mechanics. He's barking at the offensive coordinator,
treating him like a personal assistant. Aaron goes into a
darkness retreat during the game. Everybody then is walking on eggshells.
It's the opposite. Really have Kirk Cousins and dak You
never know what the score is. They never change. Aaron
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pivots on a dime when things don't go well, and
it was the problem in Green Bay. You can call
it pouting, you know. You can call it darkness, retreat,
you call it whatever you want. We discussed this last week.
Nobody goes darker faster than Aaron and bro. You wanted Hacket,
you wanted Alan Bizard. How in the world with two
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capable running backs, one a semi star, can you be
thirty second in the NFL? And rushing and by the way,
Garrett Wilson targeted twenty two times is excellent. But this
is really troubling when they target their best offensive player,
Garrett Wilson. Aaron only completes fifty nine percent of his
throws and a passer rating at seventy and I don't
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want to hear this Blame Robert Sala nonsense. His defense
was great. If his GM and owner would assigned Hassan Reddick,
I don't know how you'd move on him. They just
totally shut down in the second half. The best offense
in the NFL shut it down. They got great corners,
they're aggressive. They don't have huff Now they don't have Reddick.
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Quinn Williams got hurt. They shut Minnesota down. That's the
first time this year. Sam Darnold, you're like, oh, oh old,
Sam Darnold, don't blame Sala. He didn't whiff on a
quarterback in the draft. He didn't whiff on a left hackle,
forcing the franchise to give Aaron all control. And we
know what Aaron does when you do that. He seeks comfort.
He wants a Randall Cobb, but Alan Lazar, he wants
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a Nat Hackett. That's all on Aaron. But Sala's side
of the ball. He didn't want to. He wouldn't have
hired Hackett. They were forced to because the g with
on the left tackle and a quarterback. He's not impulsive.
The owner is, I mean, the only thing there. I mean,
tell me if you've heard this before. It's twenty twenty four.
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The Jets are great on defense, but their offense is
holding him back. Did you know through five games? I
couldn't believe it when I saw this. Through five games,
the Jets have ninety three points. That's the exact same
they had last year with Zach Wilson. Aaron isn't shot,
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but he is way past his prime in this franchise
out of desperation. They're a better version of the Browns.
Honestly desperate, low self esteem, impulsive. Have handed the franchise
to a guy that seeks comfort, pivots the dark in
a second if things don't go his way. I mean,
I'll give Aaron credit. He's still pretty, but boy, when
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he throws a couple of picks, watch his mechanics. He
gets real cool and breezy. Without saying it, he's saying
he's doing this to his offensive coordinator to humiliate him.
He's not your personal assistant. You shouldn't treat your personal
assistant like that. So, you know, if you get called
the savior and you built an offense that made you comfortable,
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then it's on you now. Aaron to his credit after
took the hit.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It's got to be, you know, honest with your performance
every single week and hold yourself to a standard. Obviously
I was blowing my standard. I just found out I've
never thrown two picks in the first quarter before. So
that's the first in a game where you lose by six.
You know, plays like that are exponentially hihlated. So three
turnovers for me is definitely out of character.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I'm disappointed by the way the reaction in New
York is predictably intense and silly. Let's fire Sola. The
defense is the only thing that works since he went
to the Jets, that's his side of the ball. He
didn't whiff on a quarterback in the first round, he
didn't whiff on a left tackle. He wouldn't have hired
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Nat Hackett. I mean, you can the only thing that works.
I said this about Chicago a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if eber Flew is a good head coach.
The Bears defense is excellent, so at least he knows
his side of the ball. At least he's got that down.
But you want to get rid of the only thing
that works. Oh that's great, let's create more chaos. Who
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are going to give the job to? Generally, in the NFL,
if you fire a defensive coach, you'd give the head
coaching job to the offensive coordinator. You'd give it to
Net Hackett. You know what's funny about this. The Giants
are making no noise across town. Same stadium, Giants making
no noise, good old line, excellent defensive line. Daniel Jones
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makes no mistakes in his prime, whether you like his
prime or not. We talked all off season about the Jets.
The Giants actually have a fighting chance here to maybe
make a playoff run. Brutal and you want to fire Sala.
The only thing good is your defense, and he's doing
it without. He's got injury. Sauce Gardner got hurt, Vikings
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have rolled over everybody. He couldn't move the ball second half,
they couldn't move the ball at all. You want to
get rid of that guy. You're gonna be pack at
the gig. All of this stuff is Sla is trapped.
He got into a shouting match reportedly last year with
the owner, and he's trying to push back. He's doing
everything he can and he's trying to be friends with Aaron.
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He gives him a bro hug and Aaron pushes back.
He's trying, well, why would you fire the only thing
that works? Amazing? Jay Mack Colin Wright Colin wrong in
fifty minutes from now, What a boy? The way the
Giants as the Bills are falling into the tank, reeling
and the Jets are a mess. The New York Giants
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are something special. To stop it, to stop with the
Giants nonsense.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But despite that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Rant, what was that six minutes just blasting the Jets,
which they deserve Colin Jets Bills a week from today
for first place.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In the division.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They still gotta shign. It's not over for the Jets. No,
but further record, what makes the NFL great? And by
the way, this is now what makes college football great?
Vandy beat Bama. So what it's a twelve team playoff.
You can lose games. Now, usc maybe out of the playoff,
Michigan may be out of the playoff, but you can
lose a game. Oregon, Ohio State play losers, not out
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of the if it's a good close game. They had
a loser's fine. So you know this is it's we're
not even what's funny about this. We're not even a
third through the season. What are we going into week
what going in a week six? Okay? Well yeah, okay,
so we are a third what's eighteen weeks count the bye?
So we're a third through the NFL season and the
Jets don't know who they are, which is real nice
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fifty four passes for Aaron Rodgers fifty four. What happened?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I thought all off.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Season it was, Hey, we're gonna run the football.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
We got Brice Hall, You've got three new offensive line,
and we got this.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They have him throw fifty times a game. By the way,
they got a dance running back, they got a power
running back, and none of them work. I mean, I
actually like their backfield. It's like a real backfield, and
they don't use it.
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
Colin Right, Colin wrong. We do it every Monday. Here
it is where Colin was right? Okay, Aaron Rodgers. I
said they wouldn't be a playoff team. I questioned their
old line being jumbled together. I thought Nat Hackett was
one of the weaker offensive coordinators. And here's the other thing.
Aaron's forty off an injury, and he wasn't great his
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last year in Green Bay. The other New York team
is better. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I think
they're poorly coach from a coordinator perspective, and the Jets
shocking are good on defense and under a on offense.
Tell me if you've heard that before. Where Colin was raw, Yeah,
the Bengals will not bounce back and be a playoff team. Listen,
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Joe Burrow had a bad pick. Welcome to the NFL.
He's got twelve tds and two picks this year and
one hundred and fourteen passer rating. They are so bad defensively,
and they were short sighted letting Joe Mixon go because
he could at least help time a possession. They are
second worst defense in the league. The game was wildly entertaining,
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but I mean, this is what you do when you're
literally selling off parts a year in advance of having
to pay Jamar Chase. This is what it looks like
a track meet every Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I said Cliff Kingsbury was the higher of the offseason,
that he and Jayden Daniels wouldn't make the playoffs. It's
better than I thought. But right now, offensively that this
was my shock pick in the NFL. Last year, Houston
was shocked everybody. I said, this is the team that'll
make the playoffs. I think they beat this profound third
straight game with at least thirty four points. But Kingsbury
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he had used this offense similar styles to other young quarterbacks,
so Jaden, Daniels and Cliff was a predictable and ideal
fit where Colin was raw. You know, I thought the
Bills were over their nonsense, but once again, it's a
franchise with a brilliant quarterback and you can't trust him
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in big spots. Their late game management yesterday was unforgivable.
McDermott is you know, I think he's organized the structures
in place, but I don't trust this team. Josh Allen
was one for sixteen on throws of ten yards or more.
He had one of his worst games, and they're the
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opposite of the Chiefs in big spots. I have no
trust for Buffalo once again, which has been the story
for years.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Caleb Williams, it's going to take time, but I predicted
even if they only win seven games, you'll feel better
about it. Four straight weeks. The passer rating is improved.
And here's the thing. Now they have a semblance of
a run game. CJ. Stroud, as good as he is,
no Joe Mixon, it's not the same, so Caleb is
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more poised. His first ten quarters, he had a fifty
seven passer rating. In Caleb's last ten quarters, it's right
up against one ten. The Bears are three and two,
and regardless of the total wins, they finally have a
franchise quarterback in Chicago. Where Colin was right, I picked
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Denver as the best over under bet in the NFL.
I said, their personnel offensively is better than you think.
And bow Nicks right now has them on a three
game win streak. And this is a football team that's
defense is surprising good. But boy Vegas had these guys
at five and a half wins, and I'm like, we
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don't know they should get two with the Raiders. We
don't know how good the Chargers are going to be.
In their schedule was kind of workable right now. Denver,
it's not ridiculous if you look at their schedule to
think if they don't make the playoffs, they could knock
a few teams out of it. In November and December,
where Colin was wraw, USC is not ready for the
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Big Ten. Pushed around by Michigan and pushed around by Minnesota,
the Golden Gophers played with more intensity, more urgency, more passion,
and they were more physical. They ran for one hundred
and ninety three yards. USC's bad tackling from years past
has re emerged. They're five and seven in their last twelve.
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They better pray their left tackle doesn't get hurt because
they have no depth at left or right tackle on
the offensive line, and they just don't have enough high
and elite players. And now Lincoln Riley is getting to me. Impatient,
the walls closing in. Listen to this silly thing after.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
The game, Jamila deef feel like that last cuts down
they got in from Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Don't ask him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I don't ask him that next question on the third
Who cares what he says on that by what player's opinion?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's ask a more professional question.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh brother, grow up?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wherein was right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Kirk Cousins First Place media was crushing Atlanta for getting
Kirked and drafting Pennis, And I said, are you telling
me it's a problem in the NFL to have the
best quarterback in your division and the best backup? Kirk's
a total pro, unflappable, high IQ and EQ. He compares
to me favorably with Dak Prescott. You cannot tell what
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he's done when he gets to a big drive late
in the game. He's not moody, he doesn't pout. He's
a pro. He's responsible. And once again in Atlanta, who
I picked to be a potential number one seed because
of their schedule, it looks like the young guys are
coming around. Kyle Pitts finally is emerging. It takes some
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guys a while. How about that where Colin was right?
I said the Mets, Phillies, Podres Dodgers had a chance
to be the best two weeks in memory in the
National League. These series are insane, the Dodgers and Podres.
The fans got involved yesterday because of the way the
Mets play. Their games are all white knuckle in the
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eighth the ninth innings. Here's a couple of home runs
over the last couple of days in these series. Yesterday
and these are turning out to be as intense or
more intense. And we thought it would be the best
two weeks in the National League in years. Here you go,
runners still at first and second with two away.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Here's a two to one plus they're ready down.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Shohi ol Tani.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Borris in October put a three run home run.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Ones who pitched the Castianos in the left field, don't lie.
It's a fair ball.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Head of Phillies.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Head tied the Sillies back to Queens. Blon a piece, Testiano,
Stay hero, I don't know what the TV ratings are.
You cannot turn these games off. I don't remember the
last year where you had more great players, more great
stadium environments, like four for four on stadium environments. They're
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all great. They all jump off the TV, and not
just because they're on Fox. We said, this is gonna
be insane. This gotta feel like nineteen eighty five baseball.
And that's exactly what it feels like. Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
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Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, he is all fired up. He should be Michael
Irvin showing me during the break. First of all, he
was hanging out in Dallas, and then the coach called him.
Mario Christobal went to Berkeley Berserklee, and then he went
back to Dallas last night for the Cowboy, and then
he flew in this morning. So put that on your phone.
Let the crowd.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Oh yeah, man, we're talking about this how people act
when they win. Okay, now it is. I don't know
if you got to see it. Now watch this, This
is after that, No way, hold on, watch this, Watch
and watch what I'm at Studio eighty eight at playmakers
right now. Look at it. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You are feeling it. Whoa A man?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't understand why people aren't like this man about
a football game. Man, I don't know why do people
act like this about a football game. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Was at your restaurant in Dallas, playmakers. Look at the
people outside your restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well what god? What? Hey? Boy? Ain't nothing better than that? Boy?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And when you have your you didn't have Micah there
you Michael right, And that blews my mind.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Now you take a top ten rushing team that was
a top ten rushing team without Michael Parson, without without
the law, and you hold that team the ninety two
yards rushing and that confused. That's the one thing that
makes me feel good when I said, oh, okay, what
do you take away from that win? That part right
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there now you're gonna add back in Michael Parson somewhere
along the line, the Marcus Lowrench somewhere along the line.
How can we not be better at stopping the So
I gotta watch that closely because if it continues, then
I gotta wonder what the hell's going on when Michael
Parson and d Log gets back. If we continue to
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have problems, then you gotta wonder what the hell's going
on with those two?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now you should be better?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, they return.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know I said this about Dak. This is and
this is a compliment. My favorite part of him is
that if you just dropped into a game, you would
have no idea if Dak had four touchdowns or four picks.
He's unflappable. His mood never changes. So he and Ceedee Lamb,
Ceedee Lamb's barking at him. What do you've talked to players?
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What happened when Ceedee Lamb was barking in? What's going
on there?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Yeah? I don't know, you know, there could be a
lot of things here, And I'm confused with this, and
I have you guys know, I've called over in that
facility to try to find out then thing's going on
between these two, And everything I get is no, these
guys a good boy. That the dudes they're good. They're boys,
so there's no problem. I said, Man, well, you know,
I don't know that thing. Even in that Green Bay
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game when Dak missed CD and then they had their
little misconnect, that disconnect and it didn't seem like they
wanted to get the gether get together and talk. I
said to myself, Now, wait a minute, that was early
in the game, that that happened. That was too early,
and that upset to be that upset I'm talking about
in the Green Bay in the playoff game, you can't
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So whatever that was, I thought, did you bring this
into this game?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
How can you you see what I mean? So so,
but every time I call over there, every time I
ask anybody I asked at that facility, they assured me
that Dallas that that that Dak and CD are great,
that they're boys.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think when he was would I'm not a lip reader,
but what I thought he was saying was, Hey, you
know what we talked about. You get me the jump balls,
and Dak maybe a little reluctant to just throw it
up for a jump ball. That's what I thought he
was saying. I didn't see him swearing. I thought it
was like, you know what, we talked about jump balls.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
In that situation because he threw that ball kind of
on the line. He did, he threw it on the line.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They talked about maybe get.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
It up well, and if that they did. And that's
another thing now I know if he was saying, we
talked about a jump ball or jump ball. And but
you know, Collinsworth said, boy said, you know to push
it in the microphone once you said what you say,
and everybody else minds just go to wondering. Boy, you
can you can lip read read it for.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You do that to the acheman say we I mean,
do you ever have a little bit of a tiff
for an hour for a half with Troy?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No? We ain never had a problem ever, never, ever, No,
Why I can't. I just don't understand. I wouldn't never
have a problem with my quarterback. It's almost to me
like the fish looking at the water and being mad
talking about why you wet water, Like you need that
damn water. What are you talking about? Fish? You don't
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care how it is. I need that water as wide receiver,
I need that quarterback. I'm never going to flap at him,
so you know, I'm gonna talk to him real nice.
Hey man, what's up everything? Okay, are you doing it?
Don't worry about that bad thro I got the next one.
Ain't no bad thro everything, all right. That's just my mentality.
So now it's just a little different.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So here's something. So I told you my favorite part
about Dak is there's a little Kirk Cousins. He's an adult.
He's smart, high eq unflappable. Okay, Aaron Rogers the opposite.
I can tell what he's done based on his mood.
And after a couple of picks, he starts getting real
breezy on the mechanics. He's flipping it. He's doing this
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to his coordinator, hurry up on television, kind of calling
him out right, Michael, I don't love that. It bothers me?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Does it?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Does it should? Aaron reel back his emotions. Are you
okay with the quarterback basically humiliating the OC on camera?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, now I'm gonna go I'm gonna go straight here
because I gotta do it. I gotta be straight. Now
that's your perception of what he's doing. Now, Colin, you
know all of that, and you said well that's to you,
is humilady. If these guys are bringing that play in
real slow all the time, man, he's just telling him,
get that damn play in, stop messing around. You see
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what I'm saying. So I got to really know the
function of it. If they're getting that play in and
a reasonable, reasonable enough time and you're doing this now,
you're trying to show up, show up. But if they're
really not getting to play and he's seeing hurry up,
stop messing around, then then that's that's that's reality. But
we almost we have enough evidence to see and say
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things like, you know, we knew what kind of relationship
and situations were with Aaron in Green Bay. Why do
we think once he goes to New York that some
of those things are going to be just smoothly ran
and he's not going to have whatever kind of issues
with people. So I'm sure, I'm sure they have situations.
And when it gets like it is in New York
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right now, because a lot of people are chirping in
green In Green Bay as many people, people don't talk
about it as much, but in New York, yeah, things
things get talked about all the time. So I could
imagine them having some rough stuff going on in New
York anyway, Why would you not hug your coach in that,
in that celebratory moment like that to be able to
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just stop.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You didn't like that, or you did I did not, Okay,
So when Aaron and Sally came up.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah that wasn't cool.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You didn't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
But I don't know how many people in the whole world,
in that celebratory moment, big moment like that, everybody's so
happy and somebody coming and jump on you'll hug you
that you would just hug back that that that takes
a person to stop that right there. You know what
I'm saying. No, I know that that takes the person.
So you could talk that of how you want to,
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but I just don't know anybody that would stop if
we're all that happy we're winning a game. Just act
about that game right there. I didn't play one damn snap. Hey,
y'all just playing a snap in one and and everybody
hadn't and you and you boom, You got enough for
you to stop that, man. Cole. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't
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work for you. That doesn't work. I'm just telling you.
You got submit you to have that, to have that
at that moment, right, to have that at that moment,
that's wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So there was a moment in the Buffalo game. And
I don't bang on coaches for play calling much. I
don't know what's going on in the headsets, but the
Bills passed it three times, so Josh Allen looked like
a had a concussion. They were running the ball. You
got it. You gotta force Houston to call timeouts. So
if Jimmy Johnson ever called something and you didn't like it,
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would Aikman just do his own thing? Like I thought
Josh Allen at some point when they kept calling passes
and you're trying to get Houston to burden their times
out timeouts, Josh should just run the ball. Do you
did you ever feel in Dallas with you and Troy Hey,
we're gonna do something on our own here a little bit, well.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Not not like that, not like that. Now we may
have experienced something like that in college. It was why
you known that one of our bowl games that made
a venute test divertic wanted to throw that touchdown as
opposed to the touchdown if you a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And and and Jimmy wanted to run, you know, and
(30:32):
another person he just won his heisman. There's no way
you could pull him out right, and and and yeah,
we threw it. He threw it, and we threw in interception,
and we lost that game. That's the only thing. Now,
I heard that's what happened. I heard, that's what kind
of happened later on, you know, because I didn't see
coach run on ball or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But did you ever question play calling when you were
a player?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Anytime the ball ain't coming to me? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Not?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah I did. I did when the ball wasn't coming.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You would you confront a coach on the sideline?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, my receiver, coach, My receiver coach. I'll follow him.
You're to the telephone. So we called it off as
some coordinator upstairs. But I would never confront a quarterback,
or I wouldn't go out to the head coach. No.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, So Miami trailed by twenty five points in the
second half due cam Ward, who may go number one
in the draft. He and shaduer Sanders will battle it out.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You're a huge college football fan. Take me, you'd never
been to Berkeley. No, they call it Burr's Earkly. It's
a little crazy up there. It is all of those
crazy liberal kids. It's crazy, but it's all when they
unlike Stanford, it's beautiful when they're rolling. It is a loud,
nutty stadium. Take me to that the game.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
And when I got there, right, because you know, you know,
we didn't play on college campus in Miami, so I
didn't know about you know, I don't know anything about it. Man.
You know it's a college campus, right, and they block
off the stadium so you got a five ten minute walk.
So I got to drop my driver and then I go.
I said, pull up around the police officer. Police officer.
They give me an export on end, you know, the enemy.
(32:14):
I was like, boy, Berkeley, he's nice people. But of course,
so they were waiting to take some pictures. I ain't
mind taking pictures with everybody. But when I got there, oh,
colle it, No, people were going crazy in Miami. They
were up and Miami was like, you know, coming off
that emotional win the previous week, right, the previous week
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were kind of down and I was like, I was worried.
I was like, you're not going to beat this kind
of energy with being down.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You Mario Crystobal sensed it was going to be a problem.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, he coaches so great, man, Our coach is so toomed.
Then I love that dude. Man. He called me, He
called me all. He called me, say, man, I need
you on the sideline. I need you talking to the kids.
We want you here. We gotta be you know, they said,
I'll fly you in. I'll pay the fly. I got
a few dollars. I fly myself here. Don't worry you
just let me know where you need it. But but
(33:07):
we I just love him, man, He's everything.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
He gave such a great speech at halftime about that
to that team. I was like, let's go. We were
ready when we came out, I was fired up. I
was ready, man, boy. I wanted to go out there
by my knees. Soon as I hit them stairs my knees.
Say stop acting like that. You know what I'm saying.
But but it was just that's nothing like the energy
you get on that college field. I wish them kids
(33:31):
understand how much they're going to miss it when they
get my age and they're going to they realize you'll
never be able to Oh my god, I was trying
to let these you know, like I'm telling them, in
these games right here, right now determines how you're going
to live the rest of your life, it does, you
know what I mean. I know maybe y'all don't see that,
(33:52):
but when you win here, you walk into everything you
do the rest of your life thinking and feeling like
you're going to If you come up short here, you
may feel you're going to come up short. That's why
we gotta win right here right now. I'm just trying
to make them know it. Oh my god, man, it's
nothing like it. And when those kids come back saying,
(34:14):
you know, man, we need you your own man, you're right,
you know, when they feel that feeling, it's different.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Those dudes up there were talking about scoreboard score board,
you know, because that's what they do when they are
up the scoreboard scoreboard every time we did anything. And
then they were doing, you know, the thing that the
cam does, and they were agging us on. I was like,
I'm not used to this, you know, in Miami, this
is what we do to people. They do Itard's pretty good, dude,
(34:46):
all right, great dude, dog, he's great.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Is he a big time NFL player. Do you think
you're a college guy.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
No, No, he's a big time NFL player in and
he's great leadership. Man. Him is so great for me
to watch him in sure door. I had great dinner.
I had went to dinner with him this summer as
we got ready to talk about what they wanted to
do this year. Him and Bang just to phenomenal dudes.
But this dude right here. I was telling people one
(35:11):
time about the time he had one receiver working out
in for a large deal with Lamar Jackson, and he
called him. He said, man, what are you doing with
Lamar Jameson? Boy, you don't get back down here and
work with us football. You need that kind of leadership
and that passion. You got to carry that kind of passion.
It has the mouth, but at the same time, you
got to have that kind of cool like he has
(35:32):
on a football field when you're down twenty and he
just marched right back. I was out there saying, we're
gonna win this game. Thirty nine thirty eight. They were saying,
score board, score board. We were down thirty eight eighteen.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now, Michael, do you show at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
They were gone. I was looking for him all scoreboard,
school board. Wake y'all go, will y'all go? They all
was gone though they had left over, they.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Got in there. So you know when when you on
these standalone games last night for the Cowboys and they're different,
standalone games feel different, and you know when what should
the Cowboys feel today? Like they didn't play well? They
I mean that didn't play particularly well. All wins are
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not the same or are they? How are you feeling
flying home from that last night? But that schedule is
getting really tough coming up for Dallas.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Right right? And that was part that was part of
the tough schedule. Pittsburgh is a tough, physical team. We
can talk about it, and we talked about justin fields
and everything. But that's how Mike Tumlan wants to play offense.
That's right, that's what he wants. He wants his defense
to win those football games. And you moved that ball
against probably the Pittsburgh still his defense was what's one
(36:51):
of the best units I'm talking about in all of
football the first three weeks of the season, they probably
be the best football when you talk about units offense, defense,
a special teams units, they were probably the best, putting
all together and in Dallas. What Dallas did was going
in and be able to move the ball without only
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using C D lane.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, I didn't use it much in the second there
is there.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Is something you pull out of that game. We stopped
the run without the two best players on defense, and
then you move the ball not using the best player
on offense. Yeah, little hope in that.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, No, there's they'd been using CD out of the backfield.
The fact that he kind of wasn't part of the
offense in the second half. It feels pretty good. All right,
you can run. You can show that little fun thing again.
I know you just love that, don't you. That's that
thing on now? Who was at your Who was who
was filming you last?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
No? That was remember boy, you know people that were
there with me at the Playmakers and playmakers Playmakers of
eighty eight man, because I was getting ready to do
some more work because right at the end of that
I had to shoot another podcast. So you know, we
all we're always in there working. But it was, man,
I just love that stuff. And I got to enjoy
Saturday and Sunday, so I have two great weeks in
(38:07):
a row, you know, because Mike Colorado didn't play, so
that I call that a win. As long as Colorado,
Miami and the Cowboys win, I'm good. That's a good week.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
The Hall of Famer, the playmaker.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Great seeing you, that's a good week. Always great talking
to you guys, man, And it's always great talking to
you guys after a win, because I know y'all thought
everybody thought we were gonna lose that game. Yeah, y'all thought,
y'all gonna have me up been here cry, But no, no,
I ain't crying, baby, I'm laughing. I'm loving and y'all
the ones that want to cry.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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(00:47):
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, there's plenty
of both, jamac h. I guess it's a win for
the Cowboys. I could not take my eyes off that
outdated is kind to the Steelers offense. Everything's set up
for them to win. That game left me speechless. I
(01:08):
couldn't sleep last night. It was who ticked off at
the Pittsburgh Steelers Colin. Oh my gosh, the Steelers offense
this morning should be humiliated, should be completely embarrassed. Their
defense picked off a couple of balls, blocks a kick
three times. The Cowboys in the red zone with Dak
Prescott Ceedee Lamp get no points. Michah Parsons is out,
DeMarcus Lawrence is out. You're at home. It is perfect.
(01:29):
The Cowboys are reeling. It's perfect. And the Pittsburgh offense,
the nineteen seventy seven Pittsburgh offense engineered ninety seven yards
atrocious on third down, four yards of play against the
Dallas team without their top dude defenders. Pittsburgh's offensive line shocker.
(01:50):
It stinks for years. The only happy Steelers should be
Russell Wilson, because at least he'll eventually get to play.
Pittsburgh's offense is the flip phone of the league. What
do they do well? It looks outdated, It's incredible. Since
Terry Bradshaw retired in nineteen eighty three until today, they've
(02:12):
had twenty five different quarterbacks. I counted last night. Maybe
I'm off one or two. Twenty five one has been exceptional,
Big Ben one of twenty five. Green Bay's like three
for its last three. So you know this was not
about the Cowboys excellence. They handed the game to Pittsburgh.
(02:36):
But Dak, a real pro, said for years he's the
Kirk Cousins with a bigger brand, a star on the helmet.
He's a pro high EQ, high IQ. He doesn't have
to play well in long stretches. He is stoic, he
is unflappable. He can stink. He can argue with Ceedee
Lamb for an hour. Jerry can be doing silly stuff.
(02:58):
McCarthy can butcher play calling in clock management, but Dak
will show up, grind it out fifteen plays and you
win the game. And I find with Pittsburgh, and you
see this with a lot of businesses, their strengths are
actually their weakness. Their strength is they're tough and physical.
Their weaknesses they rely on that too often. Tough and physical.
(03:21):
How about smart, thoughtful, clever On offense, once again, the
Steelers lead the NFL in defensive spending in twenty twenty four,
and once again their last in offensive spending. Sometimes I
think they actually believe you could just rub dirt on
it and it'll be better. That's the culture. Mike Tomlin's
(03:42):
great at the podium and he's got you know, trophies.
But cultures change and move. That game was there no Micah,
no Novarcus Lawrence, multiple picks at home block a kick,
Cowboys kind of reeling. Seed and Dak got into an argument,
and I don't know if it was intentional, but Ceedee
(04:05):
Lamb was a non factor in the second half and
Mike Parsons was out And that's what you generated offensively.
And by the way, Arthur Smith, the Steelers offensive coordinator,
he made Ryan Tannehill four or five years ago a
pro bowler in the AFC. In the AFC made him
(04:27):
a pro bowler. It's not the OC, it's the culture.
It's drawn. Plays up in the dirt is what it
looks like. That was embarrassing. Steelers defense always does their job,
rarely embarrasses themselves in a division now with a bunch
of bad defenses, Pittsburgh's is always tough and reliable and physical.
(04:47):
What a mess. And stop telling me Tomlins never had
a losing season. Raise your standards. Here's the coach after.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
There's a fine line between drink and wine and squashing
grapes and our business. And you know that's an example
of it. You know that ball is on the ground
right there in the red area, and that's the difference.
It was a hard fart game tonight. But it's not
mystical about the outcome. I just thought we didn't do
enough over sixty minutes to position ourselves.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Listen, there are wins where you lose star players and
they're like bad wins, and there are losses where you
look up and you're like, we're better than we thought.
That was an atrocious loss. Hand to do you and
you wouldn't take it ninety seven yards against that defense. Wow?
All right, So I kind of like getting up watching
(05:39):
games at six thirty. If you give me a good game,
I love that. Of course, Aaron Rodgers does not love that,
because that one's on him. Three point six yards of play,
thirty six yards rushing. And we talk about this all
the time. When Aaron throws a couple of picks, dude,
(05:59):
he his body language tanks. He gets very cool and
breezy with his mechanics. He's barking at the offensive coordinator,
treating him like a personal assistant. Aaron goes into a
darkness retreat during the game. Everybody then is walking on eggshells.
It's the opposite. Really have Kirk Cousins and dak You
never know what the score is. They never change. Aaron
(06:21):
pivots on a dime when things don't go well, and
it was the problem in Green Bay. You can call
it pouting, you know. You can call it darkness, retreat,
you call it whatever you want. We discussed this last week.
Nobody goes darker faster than Aaron and bro. You wanted Hacket,
you wanted Alan Bizard. How in the world with two
(06:45):
capable running backs, one a semi star, can you be
thirty second in the NFL? And rushing and by the way,
Garrett Wilson targeted twenty two times is excellent. But this
is really troubling when they target their best offensive player,
Garrett Wilson. Aaron only completes fifty nine percent of his
throws and a passer rating at seventy and I don't
(07:06):
want to hear this Blame Robert Sala nonsense. His defense
was great. If his GM and owner would assigned Hassan Reddick,
I don't know how you'd move on him. They just
totally shut down in the second half. The best offense
in the NFL shut it down. They got great corners,
they're aggressive. They don't have huff Now they don't have Reddick.
(07:27):
Quinn Williams got hurt. They shut Minnesota down. That's the
first time this year. Sam Darnold, you're like, oh, oh old,
Sam Darnold, don't blame Sala. He didn't whiff on a
quarterback in the draft. He didn't whiff on a left hackle,
forcing the franchise to give Aaron all control. And we
know what Aaron does when you do that. He seeks comfort.
He wants a Randall Cobb, but Alan Lazar, he wants
(07:49):
a Nat Hackett. That's all on Aaron. But Sala's side
of the ball. He didn't want to. He wouldn't have
hired Hackett. They were forced to because the g with
on the left tackle and a quarterback. He's not impulsive.
The owner is, I mean, the only thing there. I mean,
tell me if you've heard this before. It's twenty twenty four.
(08:11):
The Jets are great on defense, but their offense is
holding him back. Did you know through five games? I
couldn't believe it when I saw this. Through five games,
the Jets have ninety three points. That's the exact same
they had last year with Zach Wilson. Aaron isn't shot,
(08:31):
but he is way past his prime in this franchise
out of desperation. They're a better version of the Browns.
Honestly desperate, low self esteem, impulsive. Have handed the franchise
to a guy that seeks comfort, pivots the dark in
a second if things don't go his way. I mean,
I'll give Aaron credit. He's still pretty, but boy, when
(08:54):
he throws a couple of picks, watch his mechanics. He
gets real cool and breezy. Without saying it, he's saying
he's doing this to his offensive coordinator to humiliate him.
He's not your personal assistant. You shouldn't treat your personal
assistant like that. So, you know, if you get called
the savior and you built an offense that made you comfortable,
(09:16):
then it's on you now. Aaron to his credit after
took the hit.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It's got to be, you know, honest with your performance
every single week and hold yourself to a standard. Obviously
I was blowing my standard. I just found out I've
never thrown two picks in the first quarter before. So
that's the first in a game where you lose by six.
You know, plays like that are exponentially hihlated. So three
turnovers for me is definitely out of character.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And I'm disappointed by the way the reaction in New
York is predictably intense and silly. Let's fire Sola. The
defense is the only thing that works since he went
to the Jets, that's his side of the ball. He
didn't whiff on a quarterback in the first round, he
didn't whiff on a left tackle. He wouldn't have hired
(10:08):
Nat Hackett. I mean, you can the only thing that works.
I said this about Chicago a couple of weeks ago.
I don't know if eber Flew is a good head coach.
The Bears defense is excellent, so at least he knows
his side of the ball. At least he's got that down.
But you want to get rid of the only thing
that works. Oh that's great, let's create more chaos. Who
(10:29):
are going to give the job to? Generally, in the NFL,
if you fire a defensive coach, you'd give the head
coaching job to the offensive coordinator. You'd give it to
Net Hackett. You know what's funny about this. The Giants
are making no noise across town. Same stadium, Giants making
no noise, good old line, excellent defensive line. Daniel Jones
(10:49):
makes no mistakes in his prime, whether you like his
prime or not. We talked all off season about the Jets.
The Giants actually have a fighting chance here to maybe
make a playoff run. Brutal and you want to fire Sala.
The only thing good is your defense, and he's doing
it without. He's got injury. Sauce Gardner got hurt, Vikings
(11:12):
have rolled over everybody. He couldn't move the ball second half,
they couldn't move the ball at all. You want to
get rid of that guy. You're gonna be pack at
the gig. All of this stuff is Sla is trapped.
He got into a shouting match reportedly last year with
the owner, and he's trying to push back. He's doing
everything he can and he's trying to be friends with Aaron.
(11:34):
He gives him a bro hug and Aaron pushes back.
He's trying, well, why would you fire the only thing
that works? Amazing? Jay Mack Colin Wright Colin wrong in
fifty minutes from now, What a boy? The way the
Giants as the Bills are falling into the tank, reeling
and the Jets are a mess. The New York Giants
(11:55):
are something special. To stop it, to stop with the
Giants nonsense.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
But despite that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Rant, what was that six minutes just blasting the Jets,
which they deserve Colin Jets Bills a week from today
for first place.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In the division.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
They still gotta shign. It's not over for the Jets. No,
but further record, what makes the NFL great? And by
the way, this is now what makes college football great?
Vandy beat Bama. So what it's a twelve team playoff.
You can lose games. Now, usc maybe out of the playoff,
Michigan may be out of the playoff, but you can
lose a game. Oregon, Ohio State play losers, not out
(12:31):
of the if it's a good close game. They had
a loser's fine. So you know this is it's we're
not even what's funny about this. We're not even a
third through the season. What are we going into week
what going in a week six? Okay? Well yeah, okay,
so we are a third what's eighteen weeks count the bye?
So we're a third through the NFL season and the
Jets don't know who they are, which is real nice
(12:52):
fifty four passes for Aaron Rodgers fifty four. What happened?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I thought all off.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Season it was, Hey, we're gonna run the football.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
We got Brice Hall, You've got three new offensive line,
and we got this.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They have him throw fifty times a game. By the way,
they got a dance running back, they got a power
running back, and none of them work. I mean, I
actually like their backfield. It's like a real backfield, and
they don't use it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
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Speaker 1 (13:27):
Colin Right, Colin wrong. We do it every Monday. Here
it is where Colin was right? Okay, Aaron Rodgers. I
said they wouldn't be a playoff team. I questioned their
old line being jumbled together. I thought Nat Hackett was
one of the weaker offensive coordinators. And here's the other thing.
Aaron's forty off an injury, and he wasn't great his
(13:47):
last year in Green Bay. The other New York team
is better. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I think
they're poorly coach from a coordinator perspective, and the Jets
shocking are good on defense and under a on offense.
Tell me if you've heard that before. Where Colin was raw, Yeah,
the Bengals will not bounce back and be a playoff team. Listen,
(14:09):
Joe Burrow had a bad pick. Welcome to the NFL.
He's got twelve tds and two picks this year and
one hundred and fourteen passer rating. They are so bad defensively,
and they were short sighted letting Joe Mixon go because
he could at least help time a possession. They are
second worst defense in the league. The game was wildly entertaining,
(14:29):
but I mean, this is what you do when you're
literally selling off parts a year in advance of having
to pay Jamar Chase. This is what it looks like
a track meet every Sunday.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I said Cliff Kingsbury was the higher of the offseason,
that he and Jayden Daniels wouldn't make the playoffs. It's
better than I thought. But right now, offensively that this
was my shock pick in the NFL. Last year, Houston
was shocked everybody. I said, this is the team that'll
make the playoffs. I think they beat this profound third
straight game with at least thirty four points. But Kingsbury
(15:06):
he had used this offense similar styles to other young quarterbacks,
so Jaden, Daniels and Cliff was a predictable and ideal
fit where Colin was raw. You know, I thought the
Bills were over their nonsense, but once again, it's a
franchise with a brilliant quarterback and you can't trust him
(15:26):
in big spots. Their late game management yesterday was unforgivable.
McDermott is you know, I think he's organized the structures
in place, but I don't trust this team. Josh Allen
was one for sixteen on throws of ten yards or more.
He had one of his worst games, and they're the
(15:47):
opposite of the Chiefs in big spots. I have no
trust for Buffalo once again, which has been the story
for years.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Caleb Williams, it's going to take time, but I predicted
even if they only win seven games, you'll feel better
about it. Four straight weeks. The passer rating is improved.
And here's the thing. Now they have a semblance of
a run game. CJ. Stroud, as good as he is,
no Joe Mixon, it's not the same, so Caleb is
(16:20):
more poised. His first ten quarters, he had a fifty
seven passer rating. In Caleb's last ten quarters, it's right
up against one ten. The Bears are three and two,
and regardless of the total wins, they finally have a
franchise quarterback in Chicago. Where Colin was right, I picked
(16:43):
Denver as the best over under bet in the NFL.
I said, their personnel offensively is better than you think.
And bow Nicks right now has them on a three
game win streak. And this is a football team that's
defense is surprising good. But boy Vegas had these guys
at five and a half wins, and I'm like, we
(17:05):
don't know they should get two with the Raiders. We
don't know how good the Chargers are going to be.
In their schedule was kind of workable right now. Denver,
it's not ridiculous if you look at their schedule to
think if they don't make the playoffs, they could knock
a few teams out of it. In November and December,
where Colin was wraw, USC is not ready for the
(17:27):
Big Ten. Pushed around by Michigan and pushed around by Minnesota,
the Golden Gophers played with more intensity, more urgency, more passion,
and they were more physical. They ran for one hundred
and ninety three yards. USC's bad tackling from years past
has re emerged. They're five and seven in their last twelve.
(17:49):
They better pray their left tackle doesn't get hurt because
they have no depth at left or right tackle on
the offensive line, and they just don't have enough high
and elite players. And now Lincoln Riley is getting to me. Impatient,
the walls closing in. Listen to this silly thing after.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
The game, Jamila deef feel like that last cuts down
they got in from Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Don't ask him.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I don't ask him that next question on the third
Who cares what he says on that by what player's opinion?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Let's ask a more professional question.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh brother, grow up?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wherein was right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Kirk Cousins First Place media was crushing Atlanta for getting
Kirked and drafting Pennis, And I said, are you telling
me it's a problem in the NFL to have the
best quarterback in your division and the best backup? Kirk's
a total pro, unflappable, high IQ and EQ. He compares
to me favorably with Dak Prescott. You cannot tell what
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he's done when he gets to a big drive late
in the game. He's not moody, he doesn't pout. He's
a pro. He's responsible. And once again in Atlanta, who
I picked to be a potential number one seed because
of their schedule, it looks like the young guys are
coming around. Kyle Pitts finally is emerging. It takes some
(19:12):
guys a while. How about that where Colin was right?
I said the Mets, Phillies, Podres Dodgers had a chance
to be the best two weeks in memory in the
National League. These series are insane, the Dodgers and Podres.
The fans got involved yesterday because of the way the
Mets play. Their games are all white knuckle in the
(19:37):
eighth the ninth innings. Here's a couple of home runs
over the last couple of days in these series. Yesterday
and these are turning out to be as intense or
more intense. And we thought it would be the best
two weeks in the National League in years. Here you go,
runners still at first and second with two away.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Here's a two to one plus they're ready down.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Shohi ol Tani.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Borris in October put a three run home run.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Ones who pitched the Castianos in the left field, don't lie.
It's a fair ball.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Head of Phillies.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Head tied the Sillies back to Queens. Blon a piece, Testiano,
Stay hero, I don't know what the TV ratings are.
You cannot turn these games off. I don't remember the
last year where you had more great players, more great
stadium environments, like four for four on stadium environments. They're
(20:40):
all great. They all jump off the TV, and not
just because they're on Fox. We said, this is gonna
be insane. This gotta feel like nineteen eighty five baseball.
And that's exactly what it feels like. Colin Wright, Colin wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
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Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, he is all fired up. He should be Michael
Irvin showing me during the break. First of all, he
was hanging out in Dallas, and then the coach called him.
Mario Christobal went to Berkeley Berserklee, and then he went
back to Dallas last night for the Cowboy, and then
he flew in this morning. So put that on your phone.
Let the crowd.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Oh yeah, man, we're talking about this how people act
when they win. Okay, now it is. I don't know
if you got to see it. Now watch this, This
is after that, No way, hold on, watch this, Watch
and watch what I'm at Studio eighty eight at playmakers
right now. Look at it. Look at it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You are feeling it. Whoa A man?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't understand why people aren't like this man about
a football game. Man, I don't know why do people
act like this about a football game. Look at that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Was at your restaurant in Dallas, playmakers. Look at the
people outside your restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Well what god? What? Hey? Boy? Ain't nothing better than that? Boy?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And when you have your you didn't have Micah there
you Michael right, And that blews my mind.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Now you take a top ten rushing team that was
a top ten rushing team without Michael Parson, without without
the law, and you hold that team the ninety two
yards rushing and that confused. That's the one thing that
makes me feel good when I said, oh, okay, what
do you take away from that win? That part right
(22:49):
there now you're gonna add back in Michael Parson somewhere
along the line, the Marcus Lowrench somewhere along the line.
How can we not be better at stopping the So
I gotta watch that closely because if it continues, then
I gotta wonder what the hell's going on when Michael
Parson and d Log gets back. If we continue to
(23:09):
have problems, then you gotta wonder what the hell's going
on with those two?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now you should be better?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, they return.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
You know I said this about Dak. This is and
this is a compliment. My favorite part of him is
that if you just dropped into a game, you would
have no idea if Dak had four touchdowns or four picks.
He's unflappable. His mood never changes. So he and Ceedee Lamb,
Ceedee Lamb's barking at him. What do you've talked to players?
(23:39):
What happened when Ceedee Lamb was barking in? What's going
on there?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Yeah? I don't know, you know, there could be a
lot of things here, And I'm confused with this, and
I have you guys know, I've called over in that
facility to try to find out then thing's going on
between these two, And everything I get is no, these
guys a good boy. That the dudes they're good. They're boys,
so there's no problem. I said, Man, well, you know,
I don't know that thing. Even in that Green Bay
(24:04):
game when Dak missed CD and then they had their
little misconnect, that disconnect and it didn't seem like they
wanted to get the gether get together and talk. I
said to myself, Now, wait a minute, that was early
in the game, that that happened. That was too early,
and that upset to be that upset I'm talking about
in the Green Bay in the playoff game, you can't
(24:26):
So whatever that was, I thought, did you bring this
into this game?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Like?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
How can you you see what I mean? So so,
but every time I call over there, every time I
ask anybody I asked at that facility, they assured me
that Dallas that that that Dak and CD are great,
that they're boys.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think when he was would I'm not a lip reader,
but what I thought he was saying was, Hey, you
know what we talked about. You get me the jump balls,
and Dak maybe a little reluctant to just throw it
up for a jump ball. That's what I thought he
was saying. I didn't see him swearing. I thought it
was like, you know what, we talked about jump balls.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
In that situation because he threw that ball kind of
on the line. He did, he threw it on the line.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
They talked about maybe get.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
It up well, and if that they did. And that's
another thing now I know if he was saying, we
talked about a jump ball or jump ball. And but
you know, Collinsworth said, boy said, you know to push
it in the microphone once you said what you say,
and everybody else minds just go to wondering. Boy, you
can you can lip read read it for.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You do that to the acheman say we I mean,
do you ever have a little bit of a tiff
for an hour for a half with Troy?
Speaker 5 (25:36):
No? We ain never had a problem ever, never, ever, No,
Why I can't. I just don't understand. I wouldn't never
have a problem with my quarterback. It's almost to me
like the fish looking at the water and being mad
talking about why you wet water, Like you need that
damn water. What are you talking about? Fish? You don't
(25:57):
care how it is. I need that water as wide receiver,
I need that quarterback. I'm never going to flap at him,
so you know, I'm gonna talk to him real nice.
Hey man, what's up everything? Okay, are you doing it?
Don't worry about that bad thro I got the next one.
Ain't no bad thro everything, all right. That's just my mentality.
So now it's just a little different.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
So here's something. So I told you my favorite part
about Dak is there's a little Kirk Cousins. He's an adult.
He's smart, high eq unflappable. Okay, Aaron Rogers the opposite.
I can tell what he's done based on his mood.
And after a couple of picks, he starts getting real
breezy on the mechanics. He's flipping it. He's doing this
(26:37):
to his coordinator, hurry up on television, kind of calling
him out right, Michael, I don't love that. It bothers me?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Does it?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Does it should? Aaron reel back his emotions. Are you
okay with the quarterback basically humiliating the OC on camera?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Well, now I'm gonna go I'm gonna go straight here
because I gotta do it. I gotta be straight. Now
that's your perception of what he's doing. Now, Colin, you
know all of that, and you said well that's to you,
is humilady. If these guys are bringing that play in
real slow all the time, man, he's just telling him,
get that damn play in, stop messing around. You see
(27:15):
what I'm saying. So I got to really know the
function of it. If they're getting that play in and
a reasonable, reasonable enough time and you're doing this now,
you're trying to show up, show up. But if they're
really not getting to play and he's seeing hurry up,
stop messing around, then then that's that's that's reality. But
we almost we have enough evidence to see and say
(27:37):
things like, you know, we knew what kind of relationship
and situations were with Aaron in Green Bay. Why do
we think once he goes to New York that some
of those things are going to be just smoothly ran
and he's not going to have whatever kind of issues
with people. So I'm sure, I'm sure they have situations.
And when it gets like it is in New York
(27:59):
right now, because a lot of people are chirping in
green In Green Bay as many people, people don't talk
about it as much, but in New York, yeah, things
things get talked about all the time. So I could
imagine them having some rough stuff going on in New
York anyway, Why would you not hug your coach in that,
in that celebratory moment like that to be able to
(28:20):
just stop.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You didn't like that, or you did I did not, Okay,
So when Aaron and Sally came up.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah that wasn't cool.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You didn't like that at all.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
But I don't know how many people in the whole world,
in that celebratory moment, big moment like that, everybody's so
happy and somebody coming and jump on you'll hug you
that you would just hug back that that that takes
a person to stop that right there. You know what
I'm saying. No, I know that that takes the person.
So you could talk that of how you want to,
(28:50):
but I just don't know anybody that would stop if
we're all that happy we're winning a game. Just act
about that game right there. I didn't play one damn snap. Hey,
y'all just playing a snap in one and and everybody
hadn't and you and you boom, You got enough for
you to stop that, man. Cole. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't
(29:13):
work for you. That doesn't work. I'm just telling you.
You got submit you to have that, to have that
at that moment, right, to have that at that moment,
that's wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So there was a moment in the Buffalo game. And
I don't bang on coaches for play calling much. I
don't know what's going on in the headsets, but the
Bills passed it three times, so Josh Allen looked like
a had a concussion. They were running the ball. You
got it. You gotta force Houston to call timeouts. So
if Jimmy Johnson ever called something and you didn't like it,
(29:49):
would Aikman just do his own thing? Like I thought
Josh Allen at some point when they kept calling passes
and you're trying to get Houston to burden their times
out timeouts, Josh should just run the ball. Do you
did you ever feel in Dallas with you and Troy Hey,
we're gonna do something on our own here a little bit, well.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Not not like that, not like that. Now we may
have experienced something like that in college. It was why
you known that one of our bowl games that made
a venute test divertic wanted to throw that touchdown as
opposed to the touchdown if you a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
And and and Jimmy wanted to run, you know, and
(30:32):
another person he just won his heisman. There's no way
you could pull him out right, and and and yeah,
we threw it. He threw it, and we threw in interception,
and we lost that game. That's the only thing. Now,
I heard that's what happened. I heard, that's what kind
of happened later on, you know, because I didn't see
coach run on ball or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
But did you ever question play calling when you were
a player?
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Anytime the ball ain't coming to me? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Not?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Yeah I did. I did when the ball wasn't coming.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You would you confront a coach on the sideline?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, my receiver, coach, My receiver coach. I'll follow him.
You're to the telephone. So we called it off as
some coordinator upstairs. But I would never confront a quarterback,
or I wouldn't go out to the head coach. No.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, So Miami trailed by twenty five points in the
second half due cam Ward, who may go number one
in the draft. He and shaduer Sanders will battle it out.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
You're a huge college football fan. Take me, you'd never
been to Berkeley. No, they call it Burr's Earkly. It's
a little crazy up there. It is all of those
crazy liberal kids. It's crazy, but it's all when they
unlike Stanford, it's beautiful when they're rolling. It is a loud,
nutty stadium. Take me to that the game.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
And when I got there, right, because you know, you know,
we didn't play on college campus in Miami, so I
didn't know about you know, I don't know anything about it. Man.
You know it's a college campus, right, and they block
off the stadium so you got a five ten minute walk.
So I got to drop my driver and then I go.
I said, pull up around the police officer. Police officer.
They give me an export on end, you know, the enemy.
(32:14):
I was like, boy, Berkeley, he's nice people. But of course,
so they were waiting to take some pictures. I ain't
mind taking pictures with everybody. But when I got there, oh,
colle it, No, people were going crazy in Miami. They
were up and Miami was like, you know, coming off
that emotional win the previous week, right, the previous week
(32:35):
were kind of down and I was like, I was worried.
I was like, you're not going to beat this kind
of energy with being down.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You Mario Crystobal sensed it was going to be a problem.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, he coaches so great, man, Our coach is so toomed.
Then I love that dude. Man. He called me, He
called me all. He called me, say, man, I need
you on the sideline. I need you talking to the kids.
We want you here. We gotta be you know, they said,
I'll fly you in. I'll pay the fly. I got
a few dollars. I fly myself here. Don't worry you
just let me know where you need it. But but
(33:07):
we I just love him, man, He's everything.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
He gave such a great speech at halftime about that
to that team. I was like, let's go. We were
ready when we came out, I was fired up. I
was ready, man, boy. I wanted to go out there
by my knees. Soon as I hit them stairs my knees.
Say stop acting like that. You know what I'm saying.
But but it was just that's nothing like the energy
you get on that college field. I wish them kids
(33:31):
understand how much they're going to miss it when they
get my age and they're going to they realize you'll
never be able to Oh my god, I was trying
to let these you know, like I'm telling them, in
these games right here, right now determines how you're going
to live the rest of your life, it does, you
know what I mean. I know maybe y'all don't see that,
(33:52):
but when you win here, you walk into everything you
do the rest of your life thinking and feeling like
you're going to If you come up short here, you
may feel you're going to come up short. That's why
we gotta win right here right now. I'm just trying
to make them know it. Oh my god, man, it's
nothing like it. And when those kids come back saying,
(34:14):
you know, man, we need you your own man, you're right,
you know, when they feel that feeling, it's different.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Those dudes up there were talking about scoreboard score board,
you know, because that's what they do when they are
up the scoreboard scoreboard every time we did anything. And
then they were doing, you know, the thing that the
cam does, and they were agging us on. I was like,
I'm not used to this, you know, in Miami, this
is what we do to people. They do Itard's pretty good, dude,
(34:46):
all right, great dude, dog, he's great.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Is he a big time NFL player. Do you think
you're a college guy.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
No, No, he's a big time NFL player in and
he's great leadership. Man. Him is so great for me
to watch him in sure door. I had great dinner.
I had went to dinner with him this summer as
we got ready to talk about what they wanted to
do this year. Him and Bang just to phenomenal dudes.
But this dude right here. I was telling people one
(35:11):
time about the time he had one receiver working out
in for a large deal with Lamar Jackson, and he
called him. He said, man, what are you doing with
Lamar Jameson? Boy, you don't get back down here and
work with us football. You need that kind of leadership
and that passion. You got to carry that kind of passion.
It has the mouth, but at the same time, you
got to have that kind of cool like he has
(35:32):
on a football field when you're down twenty and he
just marched right back. I was out there saying, we're
gonna win this game. Thirty nine thirty eight. They were saying,
score board, score board. We were down thirty eight eighteen.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now, Michael, do you show at the end of the game.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
They were gone. I was looking for him all scoreboard,
school board. Wake y'all go, will y'all go? They all
was gone though they had left over, they.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Got in there. So you know when when you on
these standalone games last night for the Cowboys and they're different,
standalone games feel different, and you know when what should
the Cowboys feel today? Like they didn't play well? They
I mean that didn't play particularly well. All wins are
(36:19):
not the same or are they? How are you feeling
flying home from that last night? But that schedule is
getting really tough coming up for Dallas.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Right right? And that was part that was part of
the tough schedule. Pittsburgh is a tough, physical team. We
can talk about it, and we talked about justin fields
and everything. But that's how Mike Tumlan wants to play offense.
That's right, that's what he wants. He wants his defense
to win those football games. And you moved that ball
against probably the Pittsburgh still his defense was what's one
(36:51):
of the best units I'm talking about in all of
football the first three weeks of the season, they probably
be the best football when you talk about units offense, defense,
a special teams units, they were probably the best, putting
all together and in Dallas. What Dallas did was going
in and be able to move the ball without only
(37:13):
using C D lane.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, I didn't use it much in the second there
is there.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Is something you pull out of that game. We stopped
the run without the two best players on defense, and
then you move the ball not using the best player
on offense. Yeah, little hope in that.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, No, there's they'd been using CD out of the backfield.
The fact that he kind of wasn't part of the
offense in the second half. It feels pretty good. All right,
you can run. You can show that little fun thing again.
I know you just love that, don't you. That's that
thing on now? Who was at your Who was who
was filming you last?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
No? That was remember boy, you know people that were
there with me at the Playmakers and playmakers Playmakers of
eighty eight man, because I was getting ready to do
some more work because right at the end of that
I had to shoot another podcast. So you know, we
all we're always in there working. But it was, man,
I just love that stuff. And I got to enjoy
Saturday and Sunday, so I have two great weeks in
(38:07):
a row, you know, because Mike Colorado didn't play, so
that I call that a win. As long as Colorado,
Miami and the Cowboys win, I'm good. That's a good week.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
The Hall of Famer, the playmaker.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Great seeing you, that's a good week. Always great talking
to you guys, man, And it's always great talking to
you guys after a win, because I know y'all thought
everybody thought we were gonna lose that game. Yeah, y'all thought,
y'all gonna have me up been here cry, But no, no,
I ain't crying, baby, I'm laughing. I'm loving and y'all
the ones that want to cry.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
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