October 8, 2024 • 40 mins
Richard Sherman interviews University of Colorado star and consensus top NFL Draft prospect Travis Hunter. Richard made headlines discussing Hunter's two-way skillset on Detroit Lions wide receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown's podcast, and the two clear the air about what Sherm was trying to say about Hunter. The two go on to discuss the Heisman favorite's relationship with Colorado coach and NFL legend Deion Sanders, the move from Jackson State to Colorado, Travis getting challenged by his quarterback Shedeur Sanders, the world of NIL and social media for star college athletes, his injury last year against Colorado State, being the projected No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft and Heisman favorite, and the question on everyone's minds: will Travis play both wide receiver AND cornerback in the NFL?
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
All right, man, ex you go ahead. Welcome back to
the Richard Sherman Podcast. I have an incredible guest, the
consensus number one pick for a lot of people, Travis Hunter.
Obviously everybody had made all this hubbub about this bland
comment that I've never even made, but I got to
(02:11):
got a chance to talk with him, got a chance
to explain you what I meant, what I meant by that.
I'm glad we got to clear that up. Big fan
of your game, big fan of everything you've been able
to do, the ability to play both ways full time,
never get tired. Got a chance to go on your
your podcast and talk about it. Let's talk about everything
right now. How you feeling right now?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Good? I feel like a million dollars?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I bet I working?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah you are. You're working and you're working well.
So we talked about that comment because I said blend,
and I said blend as in like, there's a lot
of receivers that have run fast and they're your size
and they run routes, but there's very few people on
earth that can do what you do on the defensive side,
and your instincts, your natural feel, your your technique. We
(03:01):
talked about how you played in that UCF game and
the amount of opportunities you got. You got three targets
and probably could have booked all three of them. Yeah,
so it's just it's just impressive. Impressive. So I didn't mean,
oh you're bland or whatever they said. I said. I
meant like, you just would stand out more as a
corner and I think that is your natural landing spot.
And if somebody, if you want to play twenty thirty
(03:23):
snaps on offense and give him eight ten targets. Do
your thing, but to not let him play defense would
be a waste.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, sir, I get you. I get what you're saying.
You know, we cleaned that up on my podcast, and
we also talked on the phone before we even came
to the media, so we're on the same page. You know,
people now they're gonna try to get into our ear.
But you know, you know, two black men going head
ahead ain't a good thing for us, So we decided
we're going ahead and dead that right now, immediate least.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, sir, talk about your relationship with Prime and how
it's been because, like he said, there's been just very
few places that you could have won. You could have
went anywhere in the country. You're the number one guy,
but you came to coach Brian because he gave you
the opportunity to play both sides of the football. You
learn from one of the best to ever do it.
Talk about how it's been to be with him and
(04:10):
then to follow him from Jackson to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I started off saying he made my family feel comfortable,
which you know, I'm a family person. You know, he
made my family feel comfortable first before he even made
me feel comfortable. So him just making my family feel comfortable,
my mom was just like, yeah, I think this, I
think this is the best idea for us, the best
deal for us. You go learn from somebody that actually
did it. Even though my mom don't watch football, but
you know, coach promise. So it was kind of crazy.
(04:35):
My stepdad knew who he was. You know, my brother,
me and my brother we play football, so we obviously
knew who he was. But then just how he kept
his family around, like having your doors quarterback shallow standing around,
his oldest son Bucky standing around, his daughters are standing
around just like his family oriented. And that's exactly what
I wanted to be, and I wanted I wanted to
learn from somebody like that. You know, he played both
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sides of the ball, so you know exactly what it
takes to be able to do that. And I know
I want to be coached by one of the coaches
that played in the league, that done it before, and
just me and him talking without no cameras, without anybody around,
I got that idea that I think this is the
best idea for me, the best deal for me to
go play for him, learn from somebody that did it,
and him just giving me more advice outside of football,
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just life advice. It meant so much to me. I
went in his office I think last week before we
left the UCF and we talked before practice for like
two hours, just up there talking. And it wasn't even
about football. We just up there talking about life. So
like me and being able to just go walk in
his door and it no't matter who we're in there.
I'm going there to talk to him. He knows exactly
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like he'd get them out of the room. We'll talk.
Heid keep in the room, will talk, it doesn't matter.
I just feel more comfortable with being able to go
up there and talk to him. He's like a father
figuring than me. It means a lot because I told
her we got to go on the trip. Man, this
is gonna be our last season. Whatever we gotta do,
we gotta go ahead and do it. Man, go on
the trip out of the season. But he meant so
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much to me. It is like a father father figure
to me. So I look up to him.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I mean, there's not a better, very much a better
human being on this earth than Dionna and everything. You
can tell how much he cares and how passionate. He
doesn't have to do this, He don't got to coach you,
but he poured so much into y'all. Talk about your
journey because at Jackson's State you played well, you know,
and Shador played well. Should I love played well? But
should Ilo went to South Carolina first? But talk about like,
(06:27):
did you ever feel like you just weren't getting to
respect that y'all? You know what I mean that y'all
feel like y'all deserve even before then. And then how
was the transition going to Colorado? Like how did you
have a lot of paperwork? Was it ever touch and
go at any point where it's like maybe this won't
work out?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, I mean I won't say we had any like
I had no problem with people what people say about
us for real. I mean, if you go in, if
I continue to be focused on that, I want to
be where I'm at right now, So I love you,
don't folks, I don't focus on what they talk about.
I mean, unless somebody tell me about it, I'll go
all right, Well, okay, keep supporting them, you know, But
(07:02):
that was never my focus. People not giving us our respect.
I mean, I'm not here to play football, You're gonna
earn your respect. So me just being able to do
what I'm doing right now. Nobody probably respect me at
Jackson State or last year, but now they respect me.
So I didn't focus on them respect me, but I
made them respect me so pretty much. Just that, and
then you know, I love the game too much, man,
(07:23):
Just we just focused on winning for real.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Right right? When when when Pride came to you said, hey,
there's a chance we leaving. We've been at Jackson, we
having a good time, but it's a chance we might
have to get up out of there. How did that
make you feel?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Uh? And it makes me feel no type of way.
You know, I've spent five years in Georgia only seeing
Florida and Georgia as I was like growing up unless
I went on seven on seven trips and stuff like that.
So like me come to Colorado for the first time.
When I visited after our game, I was like, I
don't know if I want to be here. I'm gonna
(07:59):
tell ju I didn't think I wanted to be here.
So it took me a minute for me to decide
if I wanted to come here or not. But I
knew me and Coach Crumb we had that bun. It's
just like, I'm not gonna find it nowhere else. And
we've just been growing that bun over that that one
year that we spent at Jackson State and me going
through them three surgeries and him just looking out for
me and the coaching staff looking out for me. While
I was in that moment going through the three surgeries
(08:20):
for like three months. It made me just have a flashback, like, nah,
I can't leave them. I gotta be with him. It's
only right for me to stay here because I know
I'm learning, I'm getting better as a person, that's a man.
Before I even did anything on the football field, because
I couldn't play for those three months, So me understanding
that and then just me talking to my fiance. You know,
(08:41):
the first name we did is probably we looked for
a house house surgeon. You know, I just let her
do it. I let her pick out the houses, what
she wanted to see, what she wanted to look at.
And then as the time went on, it's just I
just start to growing this. Now we love it. She
don't want to leave, She don't want to get she
don't really get just nowhere else. But you know that's
what comes with football. It's the business. You gotta move
(09:02):
around a lot, and I like I look, you like moving.
I like seeing new states.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, you're gonna get a chance. Definitely get your fair
chair of visits before. But coming into this year at Colorado,
you know the expectations of sky High, especially you know
with the injury last year and then just having to
go through that, the team kind of going through what
they went through. What were your goals coming in?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was focused on myself this summer. H this may,
I think the whole may we get off. I didn't
go anywhere on straight to Texas. I trained every day,
two times a day. I liked it and just treatment.
I mean, I ain't go nowhere. I fished a couple
of times in between those trainers. I had like an
hour or two to fish. Instead of taking my nap,
I just stayed up and just fished. You know, I
was just dedicated. I did a lot of speed training,
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a lot of d B work. I was just out
there just going crazy, trying to get fashion. Now you
can see I'm hawking people down and opened legs up,
opening my scribe up some more. So I just appreciated
ap Rents for let me come and stay there. I
mean I stayed there on a on a I'm like,
you could say what what I'll say like or just retreat.
Just me by myself, my fiance, her brother were just
(10:07):
out there working every day. She out there working out,
he out there working out. We just out there working
every single day. And then, like I said, I had
that one year in my mind, It's like thank I
got one more year to do the things that I
wanted to do in college and then I'm gone. So
I was just focused on, Like, the drive is scary
to me because I tell you people, you never know
where you're gonna go depend it don't depend what anybody
say is it's up to the office. Nobody can tell
(10:30):
you where you feels go unless you get that phone call.
So it's kind of scary for me. But I'm also
excited because I dreamed at this moment, I'm just ready
to take take it all in.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well. I mean you you you're getting a lot of
well deserved claim and appreciation for the things you're doing
because it just hasn't been done at this level in
so long, probably since Dion did it and championd it.
And even they didn't do it full time like you
did it. They spot played the receiver and played for it. Nobody,
nobody that I can remember, played it full time both
like you're doing, man, And that's really incredible. They projecting
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that you go to number one pick, and is it
any particular place other than the San Francisco forty nine
would love to hear that you want to go play
for the San Francisco forty nine ers. But I'm sorry
to say, unless they trade the farm, I don't think
they're gonna be close enough to be.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
To be the too many people. Yeah, they got trade
too many people, and they paid a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So they love.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I don't think it's no it's no Pacific place
I want to go. I mean, I want to be
the number one pick. That's what I dreamed of. I
an't dream of the place I dreamed of being the
number one pick. That's I want to be one pick.
It don't matter what, man, I'm gonna go have fun
football or football at the end of the day, and
I'm there to do my job and I'm ready to
have fun.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I fell in love with this game. When I was
four years old. My grandma put me in football and
I've been playing ever since.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Out in Florida's winning the Heisman on your list of goals, Nah,
that's a.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Lot of people ask me. Did I dream of being
in the Heisman race? Nah? If I'm being honest, I
didn't dream. Boy being nothing that ain't come to mind.
I'm like, I'm young, I'm thinking I don't want to
go to the NFL. I ain't think about nothing in college.
I want to go to the NFL. Whatever it takes
me to get an NFL. That's what I want to do.
But that the Hosman race is kind of scary. But
at the same time, if I don't win out of war, hey,
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I came here to play with my brothers every day
to go want to know, and they come in to
play for the Hosman because without them, guys, I want
to be in the race for the Hosmen. So I
just focused on going one to know each week and
if the Hosmon come and come.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well. I mean, college experience is crazy, you know, because
there's so many different parts to it. You didn't play
the the HBCU, you didn't play that Colorado but this
and like you lived spend such a different time than
I lived in when I was in college, and I
just don't know how I would have dealt with it.
And so I want to ask you, because I mean,
you got nil where they're paying kids. You got all
(12:53):
this social media where where these fans take stuff way
too serious and they they ignorant. I mean, you talk
about the situation with you and the kid from Colorado
State to safety, you know, it's just like, yeah, what
what are we doing here? Like it's like, you know,
obviously the play was flagged and it wasn't a great
play look on his behid. But people say, send threats
to kill me.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't like I don't like that. I didn't like that.
That's all exactly why I make that video let people know, like, hey, man,
I don't take it. It's football. If you don't get
hurt playing football, you ain't playing hard enough. That's what
I tried to tell him, Like it's football, and end
of the day, man, I've been playing this game since
I was four years old. I got hurt a couple
of times, and I understand it happens, So it's no
horror feeling stories to anybody. At the end of the day, man,
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we can't play this game and we put our life
on the line each day. So I just got to
keep playing. And the nil space, I mean, I kind
of just sit back and relax. I mean, I gotta see.
So she helped me save a lot of money, so
I'm not I'm not out there splurging my money, which
I'm happy on. I probably just I do buy a
lot of shoes. I probably got like two hundred pair
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of shoes, and it's like being at State. But shees
ain't that much. She was said that much. But yeah,
you know, I save a lot of my money because
I know the next level. Man, you already got everything.
I got everything I want. I got two boats and
I want to just play football. And I got a
happy I got a wife. So I'm just happy with
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my family right there. So I'm in it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I love it. You got a smart woman. She she
got the right mindset. And I hope everything stays good
with y'all because save the money and act like every
day is gonna be you last. You may not make
another dime and just keep stacking. Keeps that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's exactly what you tell me. Because when I first
got money I was old. I'm about to buy to
buy every little thing that I ain't have when I
was little. I'm about trying to get everything. She's like, no,
you need to save. She taught me credit. She taught
me how to save money. She taught me, I need
to put up the paychet sometimes sometimes I just don't
need to touch it. Sometimes I can touch it. If
I spend some one month, don't spend it the next month,
save two months, and spend one month. So it's a
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it's a lot that she taught me. I'm just so
blessed that I met her in high school and then
she done taught me through college. It's made it so
much mooth and so much easier. I come home to
cook meals, I got nothing to complain about, house clean,
take a shower.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It sounds like, hey, you got you got a life,
min dream about that sounds exactly like what you need.
But but that's that's really good, because some dudes don't
learn these lessons. Still they broke. And that's speaking from
experiencing National Football League because because we we you know,
just same situation I was in. You grew up, we
didn't have a lot. So when I get a lot.
Now I got all this stuff. I always wanted to
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buy that. My mama said I couldn't get you know,
they said I couldn't get her. I couldn't afford. And
I'm like it, show dues sound like a good deal
to buy that car I always dreamed about, you know.
That's how I always dreamed about those changes.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I want to think exactly how I was thinking. But
you know, she sat me down and told me, like, nah,
sometimes you got to say that the money, yeah, it
would come. But now I gotta I got a big name,
So all I gotta do is really call them up
and be like, I do some social media for you
if you let so, she taught me, I was making
myself too, so it's kind of like it's right for me.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Y'all doing right? Man? You you are, you are way advanced.
And now we're going to talk to some football because
I love talking football with you. I was enjoying it
on your podcast. So which corner or receiver? Which one
you like more? And you're about to tell me both?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Like everybody asked me to cuse I'm getting this course
in accents. I was in high school, and I try
to tell them like I can't like, I don't know
because I like catching pick six. I like to pick
the ball. I like catching pick six, and I also
like scoring touchdown, So I can't tell you like, oh,
I like this position more because whenever that ball touched
my hand, I'm most excited.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
How about this? How about this one on one? It's
Travis Hunter versus Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I got that question too, But I don't know because
I know my flaws on defense side, and I also
know my flaws on the receiver side. So I don't know.
But I don't I really don't know if I want
to play receiver or dB. I mean, I have so
much fun on both sides of the ball. Like somebody
throw the ball to me, throw the ball towards my way.
I'm happy, like super excited. But those three targets a
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game that I'd be like, god dang, so I'd be
so excited to get on the office side of the
ball and touch the ball. So I really be trying
to tell him, like, bro, I love both both because
I got a chance to touch the ball on either
side of the ball, and I got a chance to
make a big play on either side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's tough now, And it's just coming from somebody who
didn't have games where they didn't even look over there.
And when I tell you you just got to find
other ways to get involved, you'd be sitting there like
that force fumble you had for the game the other day,
huge play, and people ain't gonna giving you enough credit,
enough appreciation for that because they sitting there like, oh,
what what happens when he ain't making impact? He forcing
fumbles for the game.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's how I try to tell they don't want to
put my tackles up there, but I put I would
determine this year. I lay on and I told them, oh, coach,
I'm coming to tackle. If they come on to my side.
He getting on the ground. And that's why you see
me running people down making tackles. I'm open field making tackles.
And I talked to making tackles. I'm coming down and
hitting and don't care how you get on the ground.
You get on the ground, I get randover, You're gonna
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be on the ground.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So I'm that like careing about her getting run over
at this level, long as they go down, you know,
because they.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Go to I'm just out there, really just playing football
because I love it. I like to fly around. I
like I have one play on Baylor that we got
a flag on twelve men on the field. But like
you can see, I study so much film, he hit
behind and he like he off the ball, but he
behind the tight end and he's going across and I'm
already there. As soon as he catch the ball, turn around,
I'm tackling. But I watched so much film on that play,
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on those players that they do like that, Like as
soon as I'm half I'm cheating to play. I'm halfway
across the field by the time he even running start running,
I'm running right next to him. As soon as he
get the ball, attackling. That's one of my players that
I always look back at to like, if you study
film and you like trust your instincts, it'll all come
to play and it'll be perfect play.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Talk about your practice habits, because that's that's one part
of the equation because those when the lights not on,
those are the moments of lights not on. Nobody looking
and they don't understand that. They think the food come out.
They think you just had to show up and like this,
you know, and the film watching you put in because
I'm knowing you putting in crazy hours because you're dealing
with prime and prime putting in crazy hours. He talk
(19:09):
So when you watching this film and you breaking this
stuff down, and then you got to go to practice it,
and you practicing against the scout team and they showing
you the same looks you've been just studying, and like,
how do you Because in those situations we talked about
what made our group so good. We were so locked in,
Like I don't get the dawn offensive walk through a
run through practice full speed? Or are we at the
(19:31):
park We're not let nobody catch the ball. Oh yeah,
that's exactly you know we are. Coach Mathis Kevin Mathis,
he don't play. We could be doing a walk through
on a Friday. Somebody catch the ball. Oh you coming out?
You don't like that. You're gonna tack that ball.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You're gonna compete because if you're gonna compete in practice,
you're gonna compete in the game. So we always compete,
you know. He put that in our mind, like it
don't matter what we're doing. We can go against the ones.
If somebody finna get to hurt, is gonna be them
because we are not letting him catch the ball. So
that's exactly what we do. We don't let nobody catch
the ball. On the we were out there covering. No matter
what we're doing. We can have shoes on, we can
be in flip flops re covering. So he pit that
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in our head that we have mentality, that dog mentality,
he said out every meeting. You gotta have that doll mentality.
Nobody catch the ball. It can be the walk on.
You're still better cover him. You better be blanket. You
better not let him touch the ball. So he pit
on us. And then if we do let him catch
the ball, he's gonna be rewinded ten times in the film.
He's gonna keep rewinding it like you really let him
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catch the ball, look at it. You let him. He's
gonna keep talking. You keep talking that until a point
where we all right, coach going on next play man,
you're making us mad. I mean, just having coaches that
done it. Like I said earlier, it's just like it's
just so good for us to let us know, like
next level. He treated like the next level. When coach
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Kevin Mathis coach matthis, he treated like the next level
like coach I ain't gotta been there. We're gonna be
in there like this coach matthis like we're on our
toes because we know he's finna get on us. He's
gonna let us know what we need to do and
it always helps us at the end of the day,
so we can't even get mad at him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, he's great coach. That sounds like great coach, pick
great coach. Look, we used to tell our coach. We
used to tell Pete, like, hey, you don't want you
don't want them to have to deal with this. Don't
put them against us like you want ones on ones
were about to show you why they talk about us
like they do. Y'all want to be in front of us.
That's that's the risk you're taking. Yep, that's exactly I
was playing.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man. We played just competition and everything. We always compete,
you know, I be in that competing with the corners
and the nickels, and you know we always in there
talking best to each other, like we like, we have
this thing going right now. Every time number twenty four pressing,
he catch a pick, I catch a pick. So we
both got two inter sessions and each game we both
caught a pick. So like I tell her, like I
told her. He told me. He came up to me
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in the game, I call my pick, Like, bro, why
can't you why you always are to steal my shine?
Why every time I catch you got to catch a pick?
You know, we had those little jokes like that, you know,
we we uh, we had told him like if he
could whoever catch the first pick and then again, do
something special for him. And he was the first. He
caught the first pick, and then and then I came
back and catch a pick like yeah, man, We've been
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there just having fun. We love to be around each other,
we love playing amongst each other, and it's just a
great bun that we have built in a short amount
of time because you know, there's all those all transfers
and this is my second year here and that's the
first year here, and we just try to help out
each other the best way we could do. You ever
go to the receiver meetings and yeah, yeah, I go
to the receiver minutes. You know, I split it up.
One day, I just go straight defense. Next day, I
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go straight offense. And you know, we have our little walkthroughs.
I do walk through with defense and I go to
offense walkthroughs and split it up like that, and then
I you know, I have all the assistant coaches on
the office side of the ball, and my receiver coach here,
come and talk to me. Let me know plays, new
players and stuff I need to go over in the
film I need to be watching, you know. But they
kind of made it so easy for me, Like I
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don't even have to go on that side of the ball,
and I know exactly what I gotta do because they
they telling me. They know, you tell me one time.
I got a down pack already, right.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Talk about that because you're a smart, super smart player.
Not not just a smart human being, because you're a
really smart human being, but in football terms, you talk
about football IQ to be able to go into a
huddle on offense, really be able to calm your body,
calm yourself down, digest what the defense is giving you,
what you know, I mean, what you got to do,
your splits, your alignments, your motions, et cetera, et cetera,
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and then be able to just flip the switch on
defense and then understand the opposite really quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean it helps a lot on the office side
of the ball because we have a quarterback that would
tell us he's gonna let us know what he's looking at. Like,
we talk amongst each other during the game, so while
we're playing a game, we have to sorting it out
at the same time. Like I could do one play
like that post that Will call. I told it coach,
like we need to run that. We need to run
that same play. Just flip it on the opposite side
and run a post and run a dig the brain
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of safety down so we can get the ball right
over top of him. That's exactly what happened. Will made
a great play. He made a great play. You know,
the coaches listen to it and let us know. We
let them know what we see on the field, and
they they go as ac quarteringly and then it's a
great thing. We have coaches that listen to the players.
You know, it actually comes out into work most of
the time. And they trust us and we trust them
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to put us in the best position.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So it's actually okayc Traft.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's not really even the OC. It's just like what
I see on the field, Like if you give me
a certain coverage, I know the weaknesses. I play corner,
so I'm gonna know the weaknesses and like on my
touchdown pass. I told your door like before that that
like ass An, he supposed to be wide open. So
I just ran behind them, gotten this blind side to
make him like open up. And once he took that
one step that I seen like, yeah, just been in there.
It's just a little bit of ball gonna be right there,
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you know. He gonna put the ball right exactly what
needed to be. So all idea was I ran the
basically route ever and no release, no nothing, Just run
up the field and look for the ball and it's right,
it's right where's supposed to be, where's supposed to be.
Ill have to catch the ball and make the move
to get then in zone.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That game. Want a touchdown you caught from your door
a couple of weeks ago. He told you you should
have caught the other one, the other one where you
got PI. And I'm like, boy, that boy should do
it tough on them. Maybe, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's what we need, you know. I like when they
challenge me, because nobody really challenged me because I'm always
doing the right thing. But when I mess up into
somebody challenges me, I'm like, oh yeah, go ahead and
keep challenging me. It pumps me up to want to
do better. I want to go out there and win.
So like when it like we would be practicing, you
know the receivers we playing against Scout Team and receivers,
they'll be out there talking trash. But that helps us
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in practice because you know, if we get that in
the game, we know how to respond to it. So
then we're out there going to the talking trash. That's
one thing about our Scout Team that nobody sees like
they come out there talking hot and they out there
running route, they catching the ball, do whatever they gotta
do to beat us. So that just make us like,
like when the game time come, it's just so easy
for us. We have the fans and everything that don't
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mean nothing to us because we know exactly what we're doing,
what we gotta do. Because we have the Scout Team players,
they have the coaches that's teaching us what to do.
We gotta team, we've got the teammates that we can trust.
It's just so easy for us at that point.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Do your boys ever be messing with you when you're
at receiver and they'd be like, you come on now, Nah,
they always do that. But you know, we have even
our skip the condition and staff. They be like they're
split up.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Someone be on offense and someone still a defense because
you know, someone played football in college, so someone with
an offensive players some of them with defensive players. You
know how that go. They be out there talking trash
to us and all, but that helps us. That make
practice so much fun. We'd be excited to go to
pradists because you know, we're just gonna have fun.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Talk about your off the field. You know, obviously you
you're a big time celebrity right now and your name
is everywhere, especially in Boulder. I bet you can't go
to your car.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
They don't see me. They don't see me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Ain't going public without no hoodie on? I bet you don't.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I kind of do go to the grocery store sometimes occasionally,
but you know it's rare. When they see me. I
probably take like one or two pictures because they be shocked, like, oh,
he's out here by himself, just going to the grocery store,
not a normal person. But like I said, I don't
really do too much outside of football, man. I don't
either here chilling with my girl, playing the video game,
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watching film, or fishing. And I haven't been fishing for
a minute, because I've been so locked in on football.
One thing I have outside of football right now with
my girl and playing the video games.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
What video game you are?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I played a lot of two K, now, and you
know college football. You know I never give up on that.
I'm playing that college football every day, every chance I
came back, so on that thing every chance I get.
You know, I ended up playing Ultimate Team, but I
also be playing with my friends and my home boys.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, it would be out there in my little
brother see. I play weird games like elden Ring and Destiny, and.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I need. I need to be able to talk trash.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I need.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I can't talk to trash nobody on that right. What's
your build on two K what you're running with? I
got all five of them. I got like, I probably say,
seven bills. I think I got seven builds right now.
Three point guards, I got a power for I got
a center. Yeah, I'm just out there, you know, when
I got Tom Batman, I'm just gonna sit here and
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play the game. And I don't like to go outside
unless going fishing.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You're playing park Are you playing rec?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I played Parking Rec. You know I put my I
put my friends, so we're going park Sometimes. If I
get on my brother, we'll probably going park play, play
a little bit of wreck when that's something. Whenever he
decided he want to play rec with the guys, Green Machine,
it's kind of hard.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
To shoot on two ks this year, that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm still Green Machine though, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well, who you pattern your game after? And don't say
that's cliche?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
What you mean I'm talking about football?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't put my game after nobody. I just mix
a lot of players that I like together and I
like to watch like I just it's like every player
that I can, that's good. I try to see what
I can do to beat like that. I can still
piece of the game and put it into my game,
Like if you got to like Jamar Chase, he had
to catching the ball in people's head head talking like
(29:02):
I put that in my game, Go attack the ball
whenever I get the chance. You know, patch of ten,
they're locking up. We have his footwork and his technique technician.
So that's I take points of everybody game and try
to put it in my game. You know, left his
Geril had the hands, you know, but I got one drop.
I think this whole season, so I put that in perspective.
(29:23):
I put that in my game. I just like YO,
zone coverage is out of this world. You know, you
just stealing everything. So that's exactly what I do. I
put that in my game. Like everything I see the
person does, I try to steal that and put it
in my game. I don't like to watch one person
because I actually learn one thing, but I can learn
also more things if I keep watching other people. So
(29:43):
that's exactly what I do. I just watch a lot
of people and put it into my game and see
what I can do better.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Why do you wear twelve?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
But I probably I was twelve because it was the
only number left. That's the only because I wanted to
wear number three in high school. But you know, because
I grew up winning number three and number four because
my dad he was number four. But I started winning
them three when I was little. But when I got
to high school, I moved to Georgia, nobody knew how
I was. I played basketball my eighth grade year, so
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I didn't get to play football that year. And then
when I moved to freshman year high school, I wear
number forty because I was the only number left. I
was always never there to pick my number. I don't
know how I was never there to pick my number.
I had number forty on playing catching Puppet and then
number twelve, like one day. You know, I think I
was a sophomore, but you know, you got juniors and
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seniors ahead of you. They get to pick their number first.
So you know how coach do that. He let them
do that, and that was the year I took off,
so I know he regretted that I get my number
three and number four. But once I had number twelve,
that's probably one of my best years. So I was like, yeah, nah,
definitely changed my number. Now going to keep them twelve?
I thought my own number. I only cobby nobody.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Right, right, So you go league, you going to it
because they changed the rules in the league. Now you
can go. You can wear teenage numbers at corner receiver,
you can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I'm trying to get them a twelve best as
I can. But the number don't make me about there
playing And like I said, I had number forty on
plan on varsity, so the number ain't make me.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm gonna let you know something. Don't go into the
League wearing forty. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I might go back to that now, right, Hey, I humbled,
it might humble me. You never know, it might humt
me even more. I remember forty was it was ugly,
but it might be fresh. You never know. No, all
the Hunghrey number forty four.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He didn't want to be. He didn't go back humped.
He lost it when Earl went there because because he
was wearing twenty nine did he went there and he
went to forty four and it was But I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
He's staying with it though, se down with it though.
The number don't make you. You make the number at
the end of the day. Just gotta keep going out
there and working. So if I got to know, if
I get the number twelve and get the number twelve,
I can't get them at twelve. I know nobody wanted
to want to wear number forty.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Right, it's only a couple of places. I think you
wouldn't get get away with twelve in Seattle because they
got that the twelve man fan New England. You probably
ain't getting it there, but everywhere else, I mean, you
might not get it in Houston either. That Nico was
doing pretty good yeah he's crazy. Yeah yeah so, but
but for the most part, I think you're gonna have
a good shot at it. Well, if you got any
(32:19):
questions for me, I noticed your resting time and I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Nah, you know, we could talk off on whenever we
need to. You know how that go. But I, like
I said on my show, I definitely need you to
come out here and help me or or a couple
of techniques, because you know, I'm always ready to learn.
I learned before anything before I even talk back. So
I just want to. I want you to come out
here and give me some tips what I could do better.
I want to learn better.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I want to know how you make it through the
league though, Like what was your main focus once you
got there?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
When I got here, it was just trying to stay
ahead of the curve. We came in. It was a
lockout year, so we didn't even like when we got drafted,
that was the only time they could call us. Then
they couldn't talk to us at all. We can and
go to OTA's no mini camp, no nothing. It was
straight lockout. So the next time they saw me was
training camp. So I went straight into training camp as
a rookie, No no nothing, no preparation. I was like,
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they're about to cut us off. But I was so
I was so pissed off, and I told myself, I
was like, you know, cause in college, there's too many
times where I was overthinking in games and just like
not playing fast and like second guests myself. Even though
that I studied the tape. I know what they're doing,
but I'm like, what if it's something else. You know,
what if it's something else. Then I got to the
(33:31):
Senior Bowl and they invited me like late because somebody
didn't show up or somebody got hurt. And I went
in there and I was like, Hey, I'm gonna promise myself,
You're gonna play fast and trust yourself. You're gonna trust yourself.
If you're getting sent home and you get sent home,
you're gonna get sent home being your best and letting
it fly, letting you letting yourself be the best version
of yourself. So when I got to the league, it
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was the same way. I was like, Hey, I'm gonna
study my butt off and I'm gonna trust my instincts.
I'm gonna study, study, study, But when I get out there,
I'm not gonna second guess nothing. I'm believing what I see.
I'm believing in myself and believing what I studied, and
it worked, and it worked, and thankfully I got guys
around me that that did the same thing, and we
all grew together. So it's like we're sitting there communicating things,
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and then after a while we communicating without even saying that.
We're like looking like, yeah, there's about to be one
of these get ready something.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
We do the same thing, like we'll talk getting hand
sing news, but before the play, before we get out
the huddle, we like, you just get that little nod.
There's something boy, that little now that nobody sees that.
You know, we're on the same page, on the same page.
You look at your safety like, hey, yeah, we all
it is. But I can't wait to get out there
(34:42):
to help you. You don't need mine help, by the
way you you already got incredible. I can take as
much help as I can get, so you never know,
you can learn something different every day. It's right that
I can learn. So I'm just always open to learning
something new. You know, I'm very humble, and I probably
myself on being humble, but I also want to learn more.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm happy to I'm happy to help you because a
lot of it is just situational. It's something a lot
of subtle things that I'd like to talk to you
about within the route. You know what I mean. You
you do a great job with everything you're doing. But
in the league, they got so much little nonsense that
these veterans. You love Larry Fitzgerald, but I guarantee you,
if you have to govern and you be sitting there
like you, ain't gonna like him as much. He needs
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so much nonsense to be like, hey, bro, hey, you're
gonna really grab the back of my helmet like that
and push off, like hey, come on, hey, ref you
ain't gonna say nothing to him. I'd love to sit
there and work with you and talk you through that.
You do you soft you?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Because it looked like you do both at times, you
soft you or you step I kind of do both.
I mix it up, you know, I try to mix
everything up. Like I said, I'd be watching chatter ten.
He mixes up. He's just such a technician. Then y'all
worried he do the same thing. They always mix it up,
like he got a tall guy doing the same thing
as a small guy. So it's just like that's why
I watched so many people. I try to get so
(35:57):
many different ideas and try to switch it up as
much as I can, so like I'll never try to
shoot the same thing twice. I always try to fake
it out like I'm about the by the GMU and
then I won't touch you until later on your route.
So it's a lot of things that I do different.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm a lot. I'm a lot of the same thing
over and over. That was my best and worst trade
because I'm stepping every single time. But and if people
are like, why you don't follow, because my team and
everybody in this stadium knows if you throw the ball
over here to the left, I'm probably bucking it, so
you might want to stay away from here. I don't
need to follow nobody. If you if you take your
(36:31):
number one guy over there, then Earl Thomas, you're gonna
have to He gonna lean over there and help his buddy,
and I'm gonna be fucking whoever's in front of him life.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But my coach, we trust both our corners. So like
I think last year UCF, I think they wanted me
to follow, but we trust our corners so much. It's like, yeah,
I don't need to follow you just play the right side.
He played the left side. You stayed our side line,
he stayed today side line. That's exactly what we did,
and we covered the well. I think he had probably
like forty yards I think total out of the old game.
(37:00):
So we did our job. Because he was a I
think it was a ninety deep ball guy.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We did our job.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
So we did what we were supposed to do. So
like this, the coaches been up the trust us. Like
I said earlier, give us a boost, give us a
boost ourselves.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Y'all doing a great job. Man. I'm excited to watch
y'all this week because y'all had to off time and
rest it up. You're feeling healthy, You're feeling good.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I'm about to go ahead and get some treatment
right after this. You know, I got something before this.
I'm going back to get someone.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Keep that. Like you talked about how it lasted so
long in the league, it's that it's it's taking care
of your body first and foremost. You probably already got
a game where you're so far ahead of where a
lot of guys are when they gets life I know
what you.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Said about am we got everything you can mention. I'm
about to get a chamber and probably like the next
two days.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I was about to say, you can't. I ain't using
it no more.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I'm about to put a chamber in my house and
I'm abouy to just get in there to sleep six
hours a day. You know, is the treatment is very key.
That's one. That's one extra thing that I did this
year too. I took that more seriously than last year.
But after that injury, I took that more serious and
I trained way more than I did last year. So
that's one of the things that I probably myself on
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this year too.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's what shoulders not not big shoulder like weight, but
like the little we do all that. Never never not
do that, especially if you're tackling human beings. We slim throgs.
Keep throw shoulder strong that it won't be an issue
(38:35):
right as you're young, but get an issue as you
get older.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, like I said, my girl she works out, so
you know, I'm a eating veggie noodles and so.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
This girl is a saint. She needs to write a book.
Yeah she get me.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right, I'll tell you. I come home to a cook meal.
I ain't got to know. She never tell me what
she cooking. I just come home and it's there.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Zee.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You know I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
You got it, You got it right right now?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Back, Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I appreciate you. Man. I lave you to death. And
we're gonna say we get off air, we're gonna exchange
numbers and I'll be out there. I gotta make it
out there before the season. I gotta talk my wife
and figure out what day I'm gonna make it before
I get too cold and bold.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes, sir, you gotta make it soon because you know
there's about to be November flying, Yes, sir, just flying
it is.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's great talking to you, brother, and maybe i'll talk
to you later before you win this heisman and they
give you this ceremony. If you want to come back
on and I come back.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
On your show, I definitely got to come back on.
This is probably what the second show I've been on.
So I gotta stay true to people that stayed true
to me. So definitely be back on.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Respecting love brother, Yes, sir, respect well.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
Don't foo Bowl championships. That should always be the expectation.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
All right, man, ex you go ahead. Welcome back to
the Richard Sherman Podcast. I have an incredible guest, the
consensus number one pick for a lot of people, Travis Hunter.
Obviously everybody had made all this hubbub about this bland
comment that I've never even made, but I got to
(02:11):
got a chance to talk with him, got a chance
to explain you what I meant, what I meant by that.
I'm glad we got to clear that up. Big fan
of your game, big fan of everything you've been able
to do, the ability to play both ways full time,
never get tired. Got a chance to go on your
your podcast and talk about it. Let's talk about everything
right now. How you feeling right now?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Good? I feel like a million dollars?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I bet I working?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, yeah you are. You're working and you're working well.
So we talked about that comment because I said blend,
and I said blend as in like, there's a lot
of receivers that have run fast and they're your size
and they run routes, but there's very few people on
earth that can do what you do on the defensive side,
and your instincts, your natural feel, your your technique. We
(03:01):
talked about how you played in that UCF game and
the amount of opportunities you got. You got three targets
and probably could have booked all three of them. Yeah,
so it's just it's just impressive. Impressive. So I didn't mean,
oh you're bland or whatever they said. I said. I
meant like, you just would stand out more as a
corner and I think that is your natural landing spot.
And if somebody, if you want to play twenty thirty
(03:23):
snaps on offense and give him eight ten targets. Do
your thing, but to not let him play defense would
be a waste.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, sir, I get you. I get what you're saying.
You know, we cleaned that up on my podcast, and
we also talked on the phone before we even came
to the media, so we're on the same page. You know,
people now they're gonna try to get into our ear.
But you know, you know, two black men going head
ahead ain't a good thing for us, So we decided
we're going ahead and dead that right now, immediate least.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, sir, talk about your relationship with Prime and how
it's been because, like he said, there's been just very
few places that you could have won. You could have
went anywhere in the country. You're the number one guy,
but you came to coach Brian because he gave you
the opportunity to play both sides of the football. You
learn from one of the best to ever do it.
Talk about how it's been to be with him and
(04:10):
then to follow him from Jackson to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I started off saying he made my family feel comfortable,
which you know, I'm a family person. You know, he
made my family feel comfortable first before he even made
me feel comfortable. So him just making my family feel comfortable,
my mom was just like, yeah, I think this, I
think this is the best idea for us, the best
deal for us. You go learn from somebody that actually
did it. Even though my mom don't watch football, but
you know, coach promise. So it was kind of crazy.
(04:35):
My stepdad knew who he was. You know, my brother,
me and my brother we play football, so we obviously
knew who he was. But then just how he kept
his family around, like having your doors quarterback shallow standing around,
his oldest son Bucky standing around, his daughters are standing
around just like his family oriented. And that's exactly what
I wanted to be, and I wanted I wanted to
learn from somebody like that. You know, he played both
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sides of the ball, so you know exactly what it
takes to be able to do that. And I know
I want to be coached by one of the coaches
that played in the league, that done it before, and
just me and him talking without no cameras, without anybody around,
I got that idea that I think this is the
best idea for me, the best deal for me to
go play for him, learn from somebody that did it,
and him just giving me more advice outside of football,
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just life advice. It meant so much to me. I
went in his office I think last week before we
left the UCF and we talked before practice for like
two hours, just up there talking. And it wasn't even
about football. We just up there talking about life. So
like me and being able to just go walk in
his door and it no't matter who we're in there.
I'm going there to talk to him. He knows exactly
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like he'd get them out of the room. We'll talk.
Heid keep in the room, will talk, it doesn't matter.
I just feel more comfortable with being able to go
up there and talk to him. He's like a father
figuring than me. It means a lot because I told
her we got to go on the trip. Man, this
is gonna be our last season. Whatever we gotta do,
we gotta go ahead and do it. Man, go on
the trip out of the season. But he meant so
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much to me. It is like a father father figure
to me. So I look up to him.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I mean, there's not a better, very much a better
human being on this earth than Dionna and everything. You
can tell how much he cares and how passionate. He
doesn't have to do this, He don't got to coach you,
but he poured so much into y'all. Talk about your
journey because at Jackson's State you played well, you know,
and Shador played well. Should I love played well? But
should Ilo went to South Carolina first? But talk about like,
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did you ever feel like you just weren't getting to
respect that y'all? You know what I mean that y'all
feel like y'all deserve even before then. And then how
was the transition going to Colorado? Like how did you
have a lot of paperwork? Was it ever touch and
go at any point where it's like maybe this won't
work out?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, I mean I won't say we had any like
I had no problem with people what people say about
us for real. I mean, if you go in, if
I continue to be focused on that, I want to
be where I'm at right now, So I love you,
don't folks, I don't focus on what they talk about.
I mean, unless somebody tell me about it, I'll go
all right, Well, okay, keep supporting them, you know, But
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that was never my focus. People not giving us our respect.
I mean, I'm not here to play football, You're gonna
earn your respect. So me just being able to do
what I'm doing right now. Nobody probably respect me at
Jackson State or last year, but now they respect me.
So I didn't focus on them respect me, but I
made them respect me so pretty much. Just that, and
then you know, I love the game too much, man,
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Just we just focused on winning for real.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Right right? When when when Pride came to you said, hey,
there's a chance we leaving. We've been at Jackson, we
having a good time, but it's a chance we might
have to get up out of there. How did that
make you feel?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Uh? And it makes me feel no type of way.
You know, I've spent five years in Georgia only seeing
Florida and Georgia as I was like growing up unless
I went on seven on seven trips and stuff like that.
So like me come to Colorado for the first time.
When I visited after our game, I was like, I
don't know if I want to be here. I'm gonna
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tell ju I didn't think I wanted to be here.
So it took me a minute for me to decide
if I wanted to come here or not. But I
knew me and Coach Crumb we had that bun. It's
just like, I'm not gonna find it nowhere else. And
we've just been growing that bun over that that one
year that we spent at Jackson State and me going
through them three surgeries and him just looking out for
me and the coaching staff looking out for me. While
I was in that moment going through the three surgeries
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for like three months. It made me just have a flashback, like, nah,
I can't leave them. I gotta be with him. It's
only right for me to stay here because I know
I'm learning, I'm getting better as a person, that's a man.
Before I even did anything on the football field, because
I couldn't play for those three months, So me understanding
that and then just me talking to my fiance. You know,
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the first name we did is probably we looked for
a house house surgeon. You know, I just let her
do it. I let her pick out the houses, what
she wanted to see, what she wanted to look at.
And then as the time went on, it's just I
just start to growing this. Now we love it. She
don't want to leave, She don't want to get she
don't really get just nowhere else. But you know that's
what comes with football. It's the business. You gotta move
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around a lot, and I like I look, you like moving.
I like seeing new states.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, you're gonna get a chance. Definitely get your fair
chair of visits before. But coming into this year at Colorado,
you know the expectations of sky High, especially you know
with the injury last year and then just having to
go through that, the team kind of going through what
they went through. What were your goals coming in?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was focused on myself this summer. H this may,
I think the whole may we get off. I didn't
go anywhere on straight to Texas. I trained every day,
two times a day. I liked it and just treatment.
I mean, I ain't go nowhere. I fished a couple
of times in between those trainers. I had like an
hour or two to fish. Instead of taking my nap,
I just stayed up and just fished. You know, I
was just dedicated. I did a lot of speed training,
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a lot of d B work. I was just out
there just going crazy, trying to get fashion. Now you
can see I'm hawking people down and opened legs up,
opening my scribe up some more. So I just appreciated
ap Rents for let me come and stay there. I
mean I stayed there on a on a I'm like,
you could say what what I'll say like or just retreat.
Just me by myself, my fiance, her brother were just
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out there working every day. She out there working out,
he out there working out. We just out there working
every single day. And then, like I said, I had
that one year in my mind, It's like thank I
got one more year to do the things that I
wanted to do in college and then I'm gone. So
I was just focused on, Like, the drive is scary
to me because I tell you people, you never know
where you're gonna go depend it don't depend what anybody
say is it's up to the office. Nobody can tell
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you where you feels go unless you get that phone call.
So it's kind of scary for me. But I'm also
excited because I dreamed at this moment, I'm just ready
to take take it all in.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well. I mean you you you're getting a lot of
well deserved claim and appreciation for the things you're doing
because it just hasn't been done at this level in
so long, probably since Dion did it and championd it.
And even they didn't do it full time like you
did it. They spot played the receiver and played for it. Nobody,
nobody that I can remember, played it full time both
like you're doing, man, And that's really incredible. They projecting
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that you go to number one pick, and is it
any particular place other than the San Francisco forty nine
would love to hear that you want to go play
for the San Francisco forty nine ers. But I'm sorry
to say, unless they trade the farm, I don't think
they're gonna be close enough to be.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
To be the too many people. Yeah, they got trade
too many people, and they paid a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So they love.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I don't think it's no it's no Pacific place
I want to go. I mean, I want to be
the number one pick. That's what I dreamed of. I
an't dream of the place I dreamed of being the
number one pick. That's I want to be one pick.
It don't matter what, man, I'm gonna go have fun
football or football at the end of the day, and
I'm there to do my job and I'm ready to
have fun.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I fell in love with this game. When I was
four years old. My grandma put me in football and
I've been playing ever since.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Out in Florida's winning the Heisman on your list of goals, Nah,
that's a.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Lot of people ask me. Did I dream of being
in the Heisman race? Nah? If I'm being honest, I
didn't dream. Boy being nothing that ain't come to mind.
I'm like, I'm young, I'm thinking I don't want to
go to the NFL. I ain't think about nothing in college.
I want to go to the NFL. Whatever it takes
me to get an NFL. That's what I want to do.
But that the Hosman race is kind of scary. But
at the same time, if I don't win out of war, hey,
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I came here to play with my brothers every day
to go want to know, and they come in to
play for the Hosman because without them, guys, I want
to be in the race for the Hosmen. So I
just focused on going one to know each week and
if the Hosmon come and come.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Well. I mean, college experience is crazy, you know, because
there's so many different parts to it. You didn't play
the the HBCU, you didn't play that Colorado but this
and like you lived spend such a different time than
I lived in when I was in college, and I
just don't know how I would have dealt with it.
And so I want to ask you, because I mean,
you got nil where they're paying kids. You got all
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this social media where where these fans take stuff way
too serious and they they ignorant. I mean, you talk
about the situation with you and the kid from Colorado
State to safety, you know, it's just like, yeah, what
what are we doing here? Like it's like, you know,
obviously the play was flagged and it wasn't a great
play look on his behid. But people say, send threats
to kill me.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't like I don't like that. I didn't like that.
That's all exactly why I make that video let people know, like, hey, man,
I don't take it. It's football. If you don't get
hurt playing football, you ain't playing hard enough. That's what
I tried to tell him, Like it's football, and end
of the day, man, I've been playing this game since
I was four years old. I got hurt a couple
of times, and I understand it happens, So it's no
horror feeling stories to anybody. At the end of the day, man,
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we can't play this game and we put our life
on the line each day. So I just got to
keep playing. And the nil space, I mean, I kind
of just sit back and relax. I mean, I gotta see.
So she helped me save a lot of money, so
I'm not I'm not out there splurging my money, which
I'm happy on. I probably just I do buy a
lot of shoes. I probably got like two hundred pair
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of shoes, and it's like being at State. But shees
ain't that much. She was said that much. But yeah,
you know, I save a lot of my money because
I know the next level. Man, you already got everything.
I got everything I want. I got two boats and
I want to just play football. And I got a
happy I got a wife. So I'm just happy with
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my family right there. So I'm in it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I love it. You got a smart woman. She she
got the right mindset. And I hope everything stays good
with y'all because save the money and act like every
day is gonna be you last. You may not make
another dime and just keep stacking. Keeps that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's exactly what you tell me. Because when I first
got money I was old. I'm about to buy to
buy every little thing that I ain't have when I
was little. I'm about trying to get everything. She's like, no,
you need to save. She taught me credit. She taught
me how to save money. She taught me, I need
to put up the paychet sometimes sometimes I just don't
need to touch it. Sometimes I can touch it. If
I spend some one month, don't spend it the next month,
save two months, and spend one month. So it's a
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it's a lot that she taught me. I'm just so
blessed that I met her in high school and then
she done taught me through college. It's made it so
much mooth and so much easier. I come home to
cook meals, I got nothing to complain about, house clean,
take a shower.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It sounds like, hey, you got you got a life,
min dream about that sounds exactly like what you need.
But but that's that's really good, because some dudes don't
learn these lessons. Still they broke. And that's speaking from
experiencing National Football League because because we we you know,
just same situation I was in. You grew up, we
didn't have a lot. So when I get a lot.
Now I got all this stuff. I always wanted to
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buy that. My mama said I couldn't get you know,
they said I couldn't get her. I couldn't afford. And
I'm like it, show dues sound like a good deal
to buy that car I always dreamed about, you know.
That's how I always dreamed about those changes.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I want to think exactly how I was thinking. But
you know, she sat me down and told me, like, nah,
sometimes you got to say that the money, yeah, it
would come. But now I gotta I got a big name,
So all I gotta do is really call them up
and be like, I do some social media for you
if you let so, she taught me, I was making
myself too, so it's kind of like it's right for me.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Y'all doing right? Man? You you are, you are way advanced.
And now we're going to talk to some football because
I love talking football with you. I was enjoying it
on your podcast. So which corner or receiver? Which one
you like more? And you're about to tell me both?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Like everybody asked me to cuse I'm getting this course
in accents. I was in high school, and I try
to tell them like I can't like, I don't know
because I like catching pick six. I like to pick
the ball. I like catching pick six, and I also
like scoring touchdown, So I can't tell you like, oh,
I like this position more because whenever that ball touched
my hand, I'm most excited.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
How about this? How about this one on one? It's
Travis Hunter versus Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I got that question too, But I don't know because
I know my flaws on defense side, and I also
know my flaws on the receiver side. So I don't know.
But I don't I really don't know if I want
to play receiver or dB. I mean, I have so
much fun on both sides of the ball. Like somebody
throw the ball to me, throw the ball towards my way.
I'm happy, like super excited. But those three targets a
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game that I'd be like, god dang, so I'd be
so excited to get on the office side of the
ball and touch the ball. So I really be trying
to tell him, like, bro, I love both both because
I got a chance to touch the ball on either
side of the ball, and I got a chance to
make a big play on either side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's tough now, And it's just coming from somebody who
didn't have games where they didn't even look over there.
And when I tell you you just got to find
other ways to get involved, you'd be sitting there like
that force fumble you had for the game the other day,
huge play, and people ain't gonna giving you enough credit,
enough appreciation for that because they sitting there like, oh,
what what happens when he ain't making impact? He forcing
fumbles for the game.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's how I try to tell they don't want to
put my tackles up there, but I put I would
determine this year. I lay on and I told them, oh, coach,
I'm coming to tackle. If they come on to my side.
He getting on the ground. And that's why you see
me running people down making tackles. I'm open field making tackles.
And I talked to making tackles. I'm coming down and
hitting and don't care how you get on the ground.
You get on the ground, I get randover, You're gonna
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be on the ground.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So I'm that like careing about her getting run over
at this level, long as they go down, you know,
because they.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Go to I'm just out there, really just playing football
because I love it. I like to fly around. I
like I have one play on Baylor that we got
a flag on twelve men on the field. But like
you can see, I study so much film, he hit
behind and he like he off the ball, but he
behind the tight end and he's going across and I'm
already there. As soon as he catch the ball, turn around,
I'm tackling. But I watched so much film on that play,
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on those players that they do like that, Like as
soon as I'm half I'm cheating to play. I'm halfway
across the field by the time he even running start running,
I'm running right next to him. As soon as he
get the ball, attackling. That's one of my players that
I always look back at to like, if you study
film and you like trust your instincts, it'll all come
to play and it'll be perfect play.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Talk about your practice habits, because that's that's one part
of the equation because those when the lights not on,
those are the moments of lights not on. Nobody looking
and they don't understand that. They think the food come out.
They think you just had to show up and like this,
you know, and the film watching you put in because
I'm knowing you putting in crazy hours because you're dealing
with prime and prime putting in crazy hours. He talk
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So when you watching this film and you breaking this
stuff down, and then you got to go to practice it,
and you practicing against the scout team and they showing
you the same looks you've been just studying, and like,
how do you Because in those situations we talked about
what made our group so good. We were so locked in,
Like I don't get the dawn offensive walk through a
run through practice full speed? Or are we at the
(19:31):
park We're not let nobody catch the ball. Oh yeah,
that's exactly you know we are. Coach Mathis Kevin Mathis,
he don't play. We could be doing a walk through
on a Friday. Somebody catch the ball. Oh you coming out?
You don't like that. You're gonna tack that ball.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You're gonna compete because if you're gonna compete in practice,
you're gonna compete in the game. So we always compete,
you know. He put that in our mind, like it
don't matter what we're doing. We can go against the ones.
If somebody finna get to hurt, is gonna be them
because we are not letting him catch the ball. So
that's exactly what we do. We don't let nobody catch
the ball. On the we were out there covering. No matter
what we're doing. We can have shoes on, we can
be in flip flops re covering. So he pit that
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in our head that we have mentality, that dog mentality,
he said out every meeting. You gotta have that doll mentality.
Nobody catch the ball. It can be the walk on.
You're still better cover him. You better be blanket. You
better not let him touch the ball. So he pit
on us. And then if we do let him catch
the ball, he's gonna be rewinded ten times in the film.
He's gonna keep rewinding it like you really let him
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catch the ball, look at it. You let him. He's
gonna keep talking. You keep talking that until a point
where we all right, coach going on next play man,
you're making us mad. I mean, just having coaches that
done it. Like I said earlier, it's just like it's
just so good for us to let us know, like
next level. He treated like the next level. When coach
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Kevin Mathis coach matthis, he treated like the next level
like coach I ain't gotta been there. We're gonna be
in there like this coach matthis like we're on our
toes because we know he's finna get on us. He's
gonna let us know what we need to do and
it always helps us at the end of the day,
so we can't even get mad at him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, he's great coach. That sounds like great coach, pick
great coach. Look, we used to tell our coach. We
used to tell Pete, like, hey, you don't want you
don't want them to have to deal with this. Don't
put them against us like you want ones on ones
were about to show you why they talk about us
like they do. Y'all want to be in front of us.
That's that's the risk you're taking. Yep, that's exactly I
was playing.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man. We played just competition and everything. We always compete,
you know, I be in that competing with the corners
and the nickels, and you know we always in there
talking best to each other, like we like, we have
this thing going right now. Every time number twenty four pressing,
he catch a pick, I catch a pick. So we
both got two inter sessions and each game we both
caught a pick. So like I tell her, like I
told her. He told me. He came up to me
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in the game, I call my pick, Like, bro, why
can't you why you always are to steal my shine?
Why every time I catch you got to catch a pick?
You know, we had those little jokes like that, you know,
we we uh, we had told him like if he
could whoever catch the first pick and then again, do
something special for him. And he was the first. He
caught the first pick, and then and then I came
back and catch a pick like yeah, man, We've been
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there just having fun. We love to be around each other,
we love playing amongst each other, and it's just a
great bun that we have built in a short amount
of time because you know, there's all those all transfers
and this is my second year here and that's the
first year here, and we just try to help out
each other the best way we could do. You ever
go to the receiver meetings and yeah, yeah, I go
to the receiver minutes. You know, I split it up.
One day, I just go straight defense. Next day, I
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go straight offense. And you know, we have our little walkthroughs.
I do walk through with defense and I go to
offense walkthroughs and split it up like that, and then
I you know, I have all the assistant coaches on
the office side of the ball, and my receiver coach here,
come and talk to me. Let me know plays, new
players and stuff I need to go over in the
film I need to be watching, you know. But they
kind of made it so easy for me, Like I
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don't even have to go on that side of the ball,
and I know exactly what I gotta do because they
they telling me. They know, you tell me one time.
I got a down pack already, right.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Talk about that because you're a smart, super smart player.
Not not just a smart human being, because you're a
really smart human being, but in football terms, you talk
about football IQ to be able to go into a
huddle on offense, really be able to calm your body,
calm yourself down, digest what the defense is giving you,
what you know, I mean, what you got to do,
your splits, your alignments, your motions, et cetera, et cetera,
(23:23):
and then be able to just flip the switch on
defense and then understand the opposite really quick. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean it helps a lot on the office side
of the ball because we have a quarterback that would
tell us he's gonna let us know what he's looking at. Like,
we talk amongst each other during the game, so while
we're playing a game, we have to sorting it out
at the same time. Like I could do one play
like that post that Will call. I told it coach,
like we need to run that. We need to run
that same play. Just flip it on the opposite side
and run a post and run a dig the brain
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of safety down so we can get the ball right
over top of him. That's exactly what happened. Will made
a great play. He made a great play. You know,
the coaches listen to it and let us know. We
let them know what we see on the field, and
they they go as ac quarteringly and then it's a
great thing. We have coaches that listen to the players.
You know, it actually comes out into work most of
the time. And they trust us and we trust them
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to put us in the best position.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So it's actually okayc Traft.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's not really even the OC. It's just like what
I see on the field, Like if you give me
a certain coverage, I know the weaknesses. I play corner,
so I'm gonna know the weaknesses and like on my
touchdown pass. I told your door like before that that
like ass An, he supposed to be wide open. So
I just ran behind them, gotten this blind side to
make him like open up. And once he took that
one step that I seen like, yeah, just been in there.
It's just a little bit of ball gonna be right there,
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you know. He gonna put the ball right exactly what
needed to be. So all idea was I ran the
basically route ever and no release, no nothing, Just run
up the field and look for the ball and it's right,
it's right where's supposed to be, where's supposed to be.
Ill have to catch the ball and make the move
to get then in zone.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That game. Want a touchdown you caught from your door
a couple of weeks ago. He told you you should
have caught the other one, the other one where you
got PI. And I'm like, boy, that boy should do
it tough on them. Maybe, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's what we need, you know. I like when they
challenge me, because nobody really challenged me because I'm always
doing the right thing. But when I mess up into
somebody challenges me, I'm like, oh yeah, go ahead and
keep challenging me. It pumps me up to want to
do better. I want to go out there and win.
So like when it like we would be practicing, you
know the receivers we playing against Scout Team and receivers,
they'll be out there talking trash. But that helps us
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in practice because you know, if we get that in
the game, we know how to respond to it. So
then we're out there going to the talking trash. That's
one thing about our Scout Team that nobody sees like
they come out there talking hot and they out there
running route, they catching the ball, do whatever they gotta
do to beat us. So that just make us like,
like when the game time come, it's just so easy
for us. We have the fans and everything that don't
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mean nothing to us because we know exactly what we're doing,
what we gotta do. Because we have the Scout Team players,
they have the coaches that's teaching us what to do.
We gotta team, we've got the teammates that we can trust.
It's just so easy for us at that point.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Do your boys ever be messing with you when you're
at receiver and they'd be like, you come on now, Nah,
they always do that. But you know, we have even
our skip the condition and staff. They be like they're
split up.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Someone be on offense and someone still a defense because
you know, someone played football in college, so someone with
an offensive players some of them with defensive players. You
know how that go. They be out there talking trash
to us and all, but that helps us. That make
practice so much fun. We'd be excited to go to
pradists because you know, we're just gonna have fun.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Talk about your off the field. You know, obviously you
you're a big time celebrity right now and your name
is everywhere, especially in Boulder. I bet you can't go
to your car.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
They don't see me. They don't see me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Ain't going public without no hoodie on? I bet you don't.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I kind of do go to the grocery store sometimes occasionally,
but you know it's rare. When they see me. I
probably take like one or two pictures because they be shocked, like, oh,
he's out here by himself, just going to the grocery store,
not a normal person. But like I said, I don't
really do too much outside of football, man. I don't
either here chilling with my girl, playing the video game,
(27:08):
watching film, or fishing. And I haven't been fishing for
a minute, because I've been so locked in on football.
One thing I have outside of football right now with
my girl and playing the video games.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
What video game you are?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I played a lot of two K, now, and you
know college football. You know I never give up on that.
I'm playing that college football every day, every chance I
came back, so on that thing every chance I get.
You know, I ended up playing Ultimate Team, but I
also be playing with my friends and my home boys.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, it would be out there in my little
brother see. I play weird games like elden Ring and Destiny, and.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I need. I need to be able to talk trash.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I need.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I can't talk to trash nobody on that right. What's
your build on two K what you're running with? I
got all five of them. I got like, I probably say,
seven bills. I think I got seven builds right now.
Three point guards, I got a power for I got
a center. Yeah, I'm just out there, you know, when
I got Tom Batman, I'm just gonna sit here and
(28:04):
play the game. And I don't like to go outside
unless going fishing.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
You're playing park Are you playing rec?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I played Parking Rec. You know I put my I
put my friends, so we're going park Sometimes. If I
get on my brother, we'll probably going park play, play
a little bit of wreck when that's something. Whenever he
decided he want to play rec with the guys, Green Machine,
it's kind of hard.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
To shoot on two ks this year, that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm still Green Machine though, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Well, who you pattern your game after? And don't say
that's cliche?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
What you mean I'm talking about football?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't put my game after nobody. I just mix
a lot of players that I like together and I
like to watch like I just it's like every player
that I can, that's good. I try to see what
I can do to beat like that. I can still
piece of the game and put it into my game,
Like if you got to like Jamar Chase, he had
to catching the ball in people's head head talking like
(29:02):
I put that in my game, Go attack the ball
whenever I get the chance. You know, patch of ten,
they're locking up. We have his footwork and his technique technician.
So that's I take points of everybody game and try
to put it in my game. You know, left his
Geril had the hands, you know, but I got one drop.
I think this whole season, so I put that in perspective.
(29:23):
I put that in my game. I just like YO,
zone coverage is out of this world. You know, you
just stealing everything. So that's exactly what I do. I
put that in my game. Like everything I see the
person does, I try to steal that and put it
in my game. I don't like to watch one person
because I actually learn one thing, but I can learn
also more things if I keep watching other people. So
(29:43):
that's exactly what I do. I just watch a lot
of people and put it into my game and see
what I can do better.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Why do you wear twelve?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
But I probably I was twelve because it was the
only number left. That's the only because I wanted to
wear number three in high school. But you know, because
I grew up winning number three and number four because
my dad he was number four. But I started winning
them three when I was little. But when I got
to high school, I moved to Georgia, nobody knew how
I was. I played basketball my eighth grade year, so
(30:11):
I didn't get to play football that year. And then
when I moved to freshman year high school, I wear
number forty because I was the only number left. I
was always never there to pick my number. I don't
know how I was never there to pick my number.
I had number forty on playing catching Puppet and then
number twelve, like one day. You know, I think I
was a sophomore, but you know, you got juniors and
(30:33):
seniors ahead of you. They get to pick their number first.
So you know how coach do that. He let them
do that, and that was the year I took off,
so I know he regretted that I get my number
three and number four. But once I had number twelve,
that's probably one of my best years. So I was like, yeah, nah,
definitely changed my number. Now going to keep them twelve?
I thought my own number. I only cobby nobody.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Right, right, So you go league, you going to it
because they changed the rules in the league. Now you
can go. You can wear teenage numbers at corner receiver,
you can wear whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I'm trying to get them a twelve best as
I can. But the number don't make me about there
playing And like I said, I had number forty on
plan on varsity, so the number ain't make me.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm gonna let you know something. Don't go into the
League wearing forty. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I might go back to that now, right, Hey, I humbled,
it might humble me. You never know, it might humt
me even more. I remember forty was it was ugly,
but it might be fresh. You never know. No, all
the Hunghrey number forty four.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He didn't want to be. He didn't go back humped.
He lost it when Earl went there because because he
was wearing twenty nine did he went there and he
went to forty four and it was But I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
He's staying with it though, se down with it though.
The number don't make you. You make the number at
the end of the day. Just gotta keep going out
there and working. So if I got to know, if
I get the number twelve and get the number twelve,
I can't get them at twelve. I know nobody wanted
to want to wear number forty.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Right, it's only a couple of places. I think you
wouldn't get get away with twelve in Seattle because they
got that the twelve man fan New England. You probably
ain't getting it there, but everywhere else, I mean, you
might not get it in Houston either. That Nico was
doing pretty good yeah he's crazy. Yeah yeah so, but
but for the most part, I think you're gonna have
a good shot at it. Well, if you got any
(32:19):
questions for me, I noticed your resting time and I
appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Nah, you know, we could talk off on whenever we
need to. You know how that go. But I, like
I said on my show, I definitely need you to
come out here and help me or or a couple
of techniques, because you know, I'm always ready to learn.
I learned before anything before I even talk back. So
I just want to. I want you to come out
here and give me some tips what I could do better.
I want to learn better.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I want to know how you make it through the
league though, Like what was your main focus once you
got there?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
When I got here, it was just trying to stay
ahead of the curve. We came in. It was a
lockout year, so we didn't even like when we got drafted,
that was the only time they could call us. Then
they couldn't talk to us at all. We can and
go to OTA's no mini camp, no nothing. It was
straight lockout. So the next time they saw me was
training camp. So I went straight into training camp as
a rookie, No no nothing, no preparation. I was like,
(33:10):
they're about to cut us off. But I was so
I was so pissed off, and I told myself, I
was like, you know, cause in college, there's too many
times where I was overthinking in games and just like
not playing fast and like second guests myself. Even though
that I studied the tape. I know what they're doing,
but I'm like, what if it's something else. You know,
what if it's something else. Then I got to the
(33:31):
Senior Bowl and they invited me like late because somebody
didn't show up or somebody got hurt. And I went
in there and I was like, Hey, I'm gonna promise myself,
You're gonna play fast and trust yourself. You're gonna trust yourself.
If you're getting sent home and you get sent home,
you're gonna get sent home being your best and letting
it fly, letting you letting yourself be the best version
of yourself. So when I got to the league, it
(33:52):
was the same way. I was like, Hey, I'm gonna
study my butt off and I'm gonna trust my instincts.
I'm gonna study, study, study, But when I get out there,
I'm not gonna second guess nothing. I'm believing what I see.
I'm believing in myself and believing what I studied, and
it worked, and it worked, and thankfully I got guys
around me that that did the same thing, and we
all grew together. So it's like we're sitting there communicating things,
(34:12):
and then after a while we communicating without even saying that.
We're like looking like, yeah, there's about to be one
of these get ready something.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
We do the same thing, like we'll talk getting hand
sing news, but before the play, before we get out
the huddle, we like, you just get that little nod.
There's something boy, that little now that nobody sees that.
You know, we're on the same page, on the same page.
You look at your safety like, hey, yeah, we all
it is. But I can't wait to get out there
(34:42):
to help you. You don't need mine help, by the
way you you already got incredible. I can take as
much help as I can get, so you never know,
you can learn something different every day. It's right that
I can learn. So I'm just always open to learning
something new. You know, I'm very humble, and I probably
myself on being humble, but I also want to learn more.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm happy to I'm happy to help you because a
lot of it is just situational. It's something a lot
of subtle things that I'd like to talk to you
about within the route. You know what I mean. You
you do a great job with everything you're doing. But
in the league, they got so much little nonsense that
these veterans. You love Larry Fitzgerald, but I guarantee you,
if you have to govern and you be sitting there
like you, ain't gonna like him as much. He needs
(35:20):
so much nonsense to be like, hey, bro, hey, you're
gonna really grab the back of my helmet like that
and push off, like hey, come on, hey, ref you
ain't gonna say nothing to him. I'd love to sit
there and work with you and talk you through that.
You do you soft you?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Because it looked like you do both at times, you
soft you or you step I kind of do both.
I mix it up, you know, I try to mix
everything up. Like I said, I'd be watching chatter ten.
He mixes up. He's just such a technician. Then y'all
worried he do the same thing. They always mix it up,
like he got a tall guy doing the same thing
as a small guy. So it's just like that's why
I watched so many people. I try to get so
(35:57):
many different ideas and try to switch it up as
much as I can, so like I'll never try to
shoot the same thing twice. I always try to fake
it out like I'm about the by the GMU and
then I won't touch you until later on your route.
So it's a lot of things that I do different.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm a lot. I'm a lot of the same thing
over and over. That was my best and worst trade
because I'm stepping every single time. But and if people
are like, why you don't follow, because my team and
everybody in this stadium knows if you throw the ball
over here to the left, I'm probably bucking it, so
you might want to stay away from here. I don't
need to follow nobody. If you if you take your
(36:31):
number one guy over there, then Earl Thomas, you're gonna
have to He gonna lean over there and help his buddy,
and I'm gonna be fucking whoever's in front of him life.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
But my coach, we trust both our corners. So like
I think last year UCF, I think they wanted me
to follow, but we trust our corners so much. It's like, yeah,
I don't need to follow you just play the right side.
He played the left side. You stayed our side line,
he stayed today side line. That's exactly what we did,
and we covered the well. I think he had probably
like forty yards I think total out of the old game.
(37:00):
So we did our job. Because he was a I
think it was a ninety deep ball guy.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
We did our job.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
So we did what we were supposed to do. So
like this, the coaches been up the trust us. Like
I said earlier, give us a boost, give us a
boost ourselves.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Y'all doing a great job. Man. I'm excited to watch
y'all this week because y'all had to off time and
rest it up. You're feeling healthy, You're feeling good.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I'm about to go ahead and get some treatment
right after this. You know, I got something before this.
I'm going back to get someone.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Keep that. Like you talked about how it lasted so
long in the league, it's that it's it's taking care
of your body first and foremost. You probably already got
a game where you're so far ahead of where a
lot of guys are when they gets life I know
what you.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Said about am we got everything you can mention. I'm
about to get a chamber and probably like the next
two days.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I was about to say, you can't. I ain't using
it no more.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I'm about to put a chamber in my house and
I'm abouy to just get in there to sleep six
hours a day. You know, is the treatment is very key.
That's one. That's one extra thing that I did this
year too. I took that more seriously than last year.
But after that injury, I took that more serious and
I trained way more than I did last year. So
that's one of the things that I probably myself on
(38:14):
this year too.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's what shoulders not not big shoulder like weight, but
like the little we do all that. Never never not
do that, especially if you're tackling human beings. We slim throgs.
Keep throw shoulder strong that it won't be an issue
(38:35):
right as you're young, but get an issue as you
get older.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, like I said, my girl she works out, so
you know, I'm a eating veggie noodles and so.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
This girl is a saint. She needs to write a book.
Yeah she get me.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Right, I'll tell you. I come home to a cook meal.
I ain't got to know. She never tell me what
she cooking. I just come home and it's there.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Zee.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
You know I'm good.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
You got it, You got it right right now?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Back, Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I appreciate you. Man. I lave you to death. And
we're gonna say we get off air, we're gonna exchange
numbers and I'll be out there. I gotta make it
out there before the season. I gotta talk my wife
and figure out what day I'm gonna make it before
I get too cold and bold.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes, sir, you gotta make it soon because you know
there's about to be November flying, Yes, sir, just flying
it is.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's great talking to you, brother, and maybe i'll talk
to you later before you win this heisman and they
give you this ceremony. If you want to come back
on and I come back.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
On your show, I definitely got to come back on.
This is probably what the second show I've been on.
So I gotta stay true to people that stayed true
to me. So definitely be back on.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Respecting love brother, Yes, sir, respect well.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
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