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damn so fired up. I'm going tomorrow to watch Texas
Oklahoma in the afternoon in downtown LA at a place
called Cosm, which is amazing. But then then tomorrow night
the al Ducks and Buckeye. Tonight Dodgers Padres j Mac.
That's the biggest. It feels like the biggest West Coast
baseball game in a long time. I know it's divisional round,
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but it feels so big.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Tonight, massive baseball game, huge football weekend. By the way,
thanks for the invite to watch that football game this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'm very excited to well you, Oh wait, you didn't
invite me.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's right, maybe next time. Okay, one hour blazing five.
So the Niners win again and kind of comfortably got
a little tight in the end, but they were the
better team. So Seattle right now is a team that
currently doesn't do a lot well. They have a great
running back, they can't run the ball. They have a
defensive head coach but can't really stop many teams. And
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they have a veteran quarterback, Gino Smith, who makes rookie
quarterback mistakes. San Francisancisco does a lot of things very
very well, but they are judged differently. They scored thirty
six points last night. I walk into the staff meeting
this morning, It's like, well, I mean, Deebo, yeah, there's
a blown coverage. I mean that fourth quarter picked by
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Gino got him off the hook. Well, let's be honest.
They have a higher standard than almost everybody in the league,
not name the Kansas City Chiefs, And you can feel
that pressure weekly on Kyle Shanahan and on Brock Purty
and on Bosa. You can feel the pressure with San
Francisco because unlike the Chiefs. They're the great team in
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the league the last five years. They're the only one
that doesn't have a trophy. Don't call Buffalo great, maybe Baltimore,
but there's a pressure when you are great and you
can't win the major on the tennis or the golf circuit.
So they hold themselves to high standards. There are a
lot of things they do well because Kyle Shanahan maybe
the top scheme guy in the league. Once again, they
got a big first half lead. If you lead in
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the NFL in the first quarter, you win sixty percent
of your games. In San Francisco, almost Owa's leads games
and almost oa's is playing downhill. That's a big advantage
when you have a Bosa on the defensive line pursuing
your quarterback. They also San Francisco scores uniquely. Most teams
in the league don't. Last night, a fullback has a touchdown.
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Last week they blocked the kick for a touchdown. They
score uniquely. They also take the ball away two picks
last night of fumble recovery. Three turnovers should have had
four got butchered by the referees. So they're top three
in the league. And taking the ball away that's what
championship teams do. They also lead the NFL in time
of possession. How are you gonna beat Lamar Jackson, How
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are you gonna beat Patrick Mahomes or a Josh Allen
or a Jared Goff. Have them sit on the bench
and watch the game. But it does feel when San
Francisco wins, and I felt this last night, it's a
little unsatisfying. They are the great team in the league.
Maybe Baltimore is the other that doesn't have a trophy
because Kansas City and Mahomes and Reeder hoggin all of them.
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And so even when they win, it's Geno Smith. Seahawks
blew a coverage. They went on the road against the
team I believe Seattle was called the dark horse team
in the league by a lot of people, not me,
but a lot of people before the season. They scored
thirty six points without Christian McCaffrey in one of the
toughest NFL environments. Well, call in the red zone offense
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of the Niners. Well, when Christian McCaffrey returns, my guess
that will improve it was number one last year. It
will return to an elite red zone offense. Well, Colin, yeah,
a brock Purty is just okay. Well, I watched last night.
He's better than Geno Smith and Gino Smith has made
back to back Pro Bowls. So the Niners win, they
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win comfortably on the road, They create turnovers, they dominate
time of possession, and it feels unsatisfying. But my takeaway
is this is how Kansas City wins every week. Wouldn't Cincinnati,
Joe Burrow and the Bengals just be satisfied with the
w You go on the road, you win games. I
want to hear about blown coverages. I don't want to
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hear about Geno Smith. Gino Smith is a very accurate
throw over the football. You know what he is against
The Niners own five and not that accurate, and those
a lot of picks. So because San Francisco is held
Baltimore similarly to a standard because we think, well, Kansas
City's a great team, but they have trophies. Niners and
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Ravens are the one where like, where are the trophies?
I think they're coming, especially for Baltimore. Here's brought Purty after.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
For us, our standards is high here and so I
think a lot of us will go to all right,
like we could have done this or that and be
better here. But I think at the end of the day, man,
it's a team sport, and so to go four quarters
with all these different kinds of emotions in parts of
the game, and to be able to rally together and
defense get a turnover and then us score touch on
out at the end, and it's just that's team football.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The Yankees, Garrett Cole, that's why you paid for him.
The Yankees are in the American League Championship Series. But
over the last five, six, seven years, the Yankees feel different.
They're still good, they mostly make the playoffs. They have
two or three superstars.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
It's that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But the Dodgers have more money. The Mets now because
of their owner, have more money, and in my opinion,
the Potterys have more talent. The Yankees have Sodo, they're
gonna They're not gonna sign him. He's gonna go somewhere else.
They have Aaron Judge, they have Garrett Cole. But that's
the minimum if you want to win the World Series. Today,
they're not intimidating. They have a new stadium, not as intimidating.
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In fact, I would argue in the playoffs what's led
the Yankees their bullpen. I mean nothing against Mariano Rivera
did that, but they had so many other elements. They
were intimidating the old Yankees in the big moments, the
big crisis moments. They just they created fear and they
don't anymore. I mean an example is, this team's built
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on power. With Stanton and Judge soda, they're built on power.
The Milwaukee Brewers have more home runs in the postseason.
They haven't played in a week. The Podrays have eleven
home runs they're still playing. Yankees have three. And they're
built on power. So they can beat you, but they
don't overwhelm you and they don't intimidate you. And that's
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what we're used to. And by the way, when Garrett
Cole's on the mound and Aaron Judge is in his zone,
they beat you a lot. But I mean beating Kansas City,
let's be honest about this, Well it was in Kansas City.
Kansas City has lost I think it's eight straight home games.
They haven't won in Kansas City since early September. And
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now they're season's over. So the last time, and this
is the point, the last time the Yankees won a
World Series. It was in two thousand and nine. I
was on the East Coast, I was going to games.
I was watching the Yankees on television, the y S
networker listening on radio in my car virtually every day.
And at that time, they not only led Major League
Baseball in salary, they pretty much got whoever they wanted
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in the offseason, and second place was I think forty
or fifty million dollars behind them because the YES Network
was such a cable advantage. Today they're just another another
passenger and the VIP lounge before takeoff. The Dodgers ownership
group has more money. I mean, the Dodgers spend more
money in the Yankees. The difference is the Dodgers push
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all theirs down the road. But the Dodgers spent a
billion dollars this offseason. They just push it all down
the road. They fudge the numbers, the podres, they operate
like the Boston Red Sox. They got stars everywhere. The
Mets they have Steve Cohen. They're going nowhere. They will
outspend the Yankees going forward. My guess on a regular basis,
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so Major riig Baseball's upper echelon. It used to be
like the Yankees. Occasionally the Red Sox would knock them off,
but it was, I mean almost Boston feel like a
small market team. The Delta Lounge. Now they're just one
of the VIP members. Everybody's getting in the Podrays are
in it, the Mets are in it, the Yankees are
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in it, the Dodgers are in it, and they're in
the Alcs. But it doesn't feel the same. And here's
the manager, Aaron Boone.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
After hopefully is not the end of the road for us,
and we expect more. But you know, you got to
savor these these times too, because you know, to get
down to the final four here. And I feel like
be in good shape from a team standpoint, I feel
like we're playing well. I feel like we're pretty well rounded.
We're not perfect, you know, by any means, but I'll
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take our chances.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
They're well rounded, with a great bullpen. They're a good
team mostly gets in the playoffs. Doesn't feel the same.
Jmack blazing five in one hour. I believe Jmack, this
is the best weekend of football this year between Texas, Oklahoma,
Penn State, USC, Ohio State, Oregon, and Eugene. Excellent excellent
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NFL Sunday, and then on Monday, Aaron Rodgers. It is
his franchise now hosting the Buffalo Bills and desperate Josh
Allen for first place in the AFC East. So not
only do we get the best baseball game potentially of
the season, Mets would argue tonight, Dodgers podrace Tomorrow is
easily until the college football playoff, the most stacked weekend.
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You've been talking about this for six weeks. This is
the weekend for college football. And then we get a
great Sunday Cowboys Lions on Fox. I'll talk about that
in a second, and then Monday night off the firing.
So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday is this weekend is going
to be insane for sports fans.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
This is the first weekend of the season. I have
bet on more college football games than NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
NFL is a tough slate this week.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And don't forget Jayden versus Lamar is a fun matchup
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Best four game stretch stretch starting tonight, podrais Dodgers best
four day stretch of this year.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I'll argue it.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
That first weekend of college basketball and I know you
don't love it. I know you.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
You give me Xavier Butler. I'm glued to the TV.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Hey, Creighton against Nebraska in that Midwest rivalry.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I'm going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Coming up next this Sunday will be the beginning of
the oil leak with the Dallas Cowboys. Starting this Sunday,
I'll explain that coming up.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
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Speaker 1 (11:46):
All right, so this season I made several predictions. I
thought Washington the Commanders would be the surprise team in
the league have been. I said, the team that will
absolutely be better than what Vegas predicts a bad team.
Denver will actually be pretty good. They're on a three
game winning streak and I've had a few misses as well.
Didn't think the Jets would be a playoff team. Also
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didn't think it would be quite this chaotic. But I
predicted with the Dallas Cowboys after three straight twelve win seasons,
this year would be because it's now too Dak reliant,
he's too expensive. We would start to see a regression
starting this year, not tumbling down a cliff, not a
ski accident where you lose equipment and break a leg.
That not that kind of a slow, steady decline, like
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putting weight on in your fifties, where about every five
to six months the pants just keep getting a little tighter,
or an oil leak, right, takes a while for your
engine to blow. I think this slow regression will officially begin.
Everything's gotten an official date right Sunday for Eastern only
on Fox. Because here's the Cowboys schedule over the next
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seven weeks. Detroit at the at a team in Atlanta
that can beat anybody rival Philadelphia, Houston, and you notice
the last two at Washington and New York.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Oh, remember the good old days.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Dak's like twenty four and four against Washington and New York.
Easy A's like four and oh every year. Yeah, that's
the way it was for Big Ben in Pittsburgh until
Baker Mayfield, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson arrived. Daniel Jones
now is playing his best football. Jalen Hirch is the
equal at least or close to Dak Prescott, and Jaden
Daniels looks like Lamar Jackson. So Dallas. Here's the three
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things that are inarguable. They can't run the football translation,
more pressure on Dak. They can't stop the run meaning
bad time of possession team, more pressure on Dack. He
gets fewer opportunities. Oh yeah, in an offensive league where
you need weapons, they have exactly one great weapon. Cross
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your fingers on the health of Cede Lamb. So with
what they're paying Dak going forward, the Dallas Cowboys with
an eighty one year old general manager have got a
nail draft picks. They have to find stars in the third, fourth,
fifth round. Now, good players got to find stars. Do
what Pete Carroll did when he got to Seattle finder
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Richard Sherman in later rounds, or a Cam Chancellor, because
Dak unlike a Patrick Mahomes or a Lamar Jackson, there's
no proof he can elevate solid players.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's not what he is.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
He needed Amari Cooper in his prime, or Zeke and
his prime, or Zach Martin and Tyron Smith in his prime,
or Cedee Lamb and somebody else in his prime. That's
what he needs. Again, did I mention the owner is
going to be his eighty one will be eighty two?
I think here pretty soon?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Or is around that age, yeah, yeah, and that general
manager slash owner holds weekly press conferences to inflame situations
and force the quarterback and the coach to answer to
stuff that's silly.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I have suggested Derrick Henry was the solution, but they
ran out of money and couldn't make eight million dollars
become possible at the trade deadline last year, so they
have the worst running back room in the league. There
are those that are saying what about Devonte Adams, and
Jerry Jones says, hey, what about the scout team?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
Well, I agree with be aggressive, but the guy we
got out there be aggressive. We've got guys on the
practice squad and can step up there and make those
plays we brought in one last week.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
And so aggressive in the sense.
Speaker 8 (15:32):
Of being aggressive about letting the guys that you have
his depth go play.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Very interesting. The oil week begins four o'clock Eastern for
the Dallas Cowboys, only on Fox.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Jmack with the news, No.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
News, this is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, let's talk about a team that's not leaking Oilidelfia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Colin. They are back and healthy off the bye week.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
They are You gotta love this AJ brown back DeVante Smith,
back lane Johnson back.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Oh, they're gonna put a hurt and on the Browns.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Let's not go there be positive.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Come on, man, that's Friday. We got some SATs here.
AJ Brown with the field of Philadelphia Eagles offense.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
They are lights out. They've been so good with him.
He stretches the field.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
You can't man him up because he's one of the
best receivers in the league, thirty four points per game
with him. Now without him, they're down at seventeen points
per game.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
The yards and.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Everything, it is very skewed. Having Aj Brown is big.
Now now, Colin, I know we talked about Sirianni's hot seat.
Can I just say something about the Browns real quick?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
I had to look this up. Their offense doesn't have
a three hundred yard game this season. They don't have
a running back who's top seventy yards. Deshaun Watson has
a top two hundred yards. How on earth are the
Browns gonna keep up with the Eagles in Philadelphia?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Well, they shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
There is this disconnect between Hurts and Sirianni.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
You know what I do.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
The biggest line of the week, I throw it off
the board. I don't bet those games, and we think that,
but I do think Philadelphia is the better team, and
I think now they're healthy. There are certain cogs to
this machine. AJ Brown Lane Johnson are two of them.
They can live without Devonte Smith. Lane Johnson's gone. AJ
Brown gone. That's not the same, Offen. Those guys are
Hall of Fame level players.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Denzel Ward hasn't practiced yet this week. Their safety for Cleveland.
There's safety Grant Delpitz and concussion protocol. If those guys
aren't on the back end, this is a monster day
for Brown. Listen, you never want to say players are quitting,
but we saw the Chargers players quit on Brandon Staley
last year.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
We've talked about it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, I don't think they're quitting on Stefanski, But is
it possible they're quitting on Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, and here's the thing is, Stefanski is what they
call taking one for the team. So Stefanski would bench
him right now. But because the owner signed that outrageous
contract and the owner's got some vanity here at play,
Stefanski is taking one for the team.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Deshaun Watson is shot. It's over.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He's not great pre snap, he's not accurate, he's not
his athletic, he's shot. It's just you can watch the game.
You can watch that Dallas game. It was Tom Brady's
first game, remember that first week. There's nothing there. And
that's what Stefanski is. He a one or a two
time Coach of the Year. Like he's a really good coach.
He was Kevin O'Connell before Kevin O'Connell got the Vikings job.
So like it's done, it's over. When it would be
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one thing, if Deshaun Watson had been injured this year
or had a defensive coach and had no weapons, that's
not the case.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
You talked about it earlier.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The Phillies have now been eliminated from the postseason, so
all of Philadelphia sports fans are turning their attention to
the Eagles. I thought you were a little hyperbolic with
the Nick Sirianni could be in trouble if they lose this.
But now that Phillies eliminated, we all know the sixers
or pretenders, the Joelo.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Well, it's also the beginning of the season.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, it's everybody's focused on the hand Philadelphia Sports
fans were in a bad mood because they just lost
to their arrival, the Mets.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
So the heat is on Nick.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sirianni. I told you this yesterday and you laughed at me.
If they lose this game, Sirianni's in big trouble.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yes, I do like to stay safe stuff for headlines.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
You like Philly.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
This game makes it appearance. I just I like to
just trickle out some nuggets. You're not gonna hear anyone else.
This seems obvious, but I haven't heard people talk about it.
This is a third straight road game for the Browns,
three weeks in a row on the road, and you
got to You got Deshaun Watson at chick good nugget,
barking at guys on the sideline, barking at guys in
the huddle, and it's like, dude, you stink.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know, like I don't.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I thought Nick Chubb could revive this team, you know,
a shot in the arm, a leader coming back.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I don't know, dude.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
It feels over.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Let's move to the Bengals. Colin one of the best
offenses in the NFL. They have been mighty strong, the
defense quite terrible. Yesterday Jamar Chase made a point that
the Bengals are used to starting out like this.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
This has to beat the game. We just had to
stand there right here and leave it all on the table.
And everyone knows that we're a great offensive team and
we always start slowed out defense. They always get it
back at the end of the season and you know,
pick out their pace. I feel like, you know, it
won't be too long until we turn this thing around.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Jab at the Bengals defense there not great.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All I know is I get three and a half boys,
was slinging DJ Danny Diames Jones.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
This is gonna be Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You because of your disdain for the Giants, are not
noticing something that's happening. Tell me teams in the NFL
right now that have a better O line, D line
comble than the Giants. All wait, Niners, O line.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
No tip.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Thibodeau's out. Thibodeau is gonna be missing. That's a big
loss for them. He's good.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Were shrugging your.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Shoulders, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Everybody in the world had Cincinnati last week. All the
wise guys in the sharps Cincinnati, I'm like, stay away,
it's lamar. They can't stop anybody.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
They came locked up. Okay, who's the coach? Zach Taylor
fumbled the bag on that one?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Okay, geez, okay, you seriously, Giants are a play for you.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I have been on the Giants for three weeks once
they beat Seattle and controlled the line of scrimmage, just like, Okay,
I'm gonna stop, I said three weeks ago on the show.
Is anybody watching the Giants offensive line? By the way,
mylik neighbors?
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
But what's going on with him?
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Are we gonna talk about neighbors?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
I'm ready to play?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Is he was there a Travis Scott concert this week?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Do you think he'd be that concert if he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I don't know that he's practiced yet.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
This week he's been like on the field, but I
don't know he's doing drills yet.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
My cussions HI sources tell me he's doing jumping jazzy.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
So my daughter got a concussion at volleyball Nationals and
then the next day they tested her and jumping Jack's
was one of the things she had to do, and
at ten she was like, can I take a break?
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I need to stop, and they were like, you're not
ready to play sports.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So like these concussions, you can't be going to a
concert the noise and the flashing lights. Travis Scott my
gut tells me neighbors doesn't play. I like the Bengals.
I like how we're head to head on This final
story is, oh, yeah, the Jets fired Robert Salo this
week and so everybody seems to like them against Buffalo.
But the Bills are not taking the Jets lightly. The
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AFC rivals have split the season series the last two years,
including last night or last year Opening Night when Aaron
Rodgers popped the Achilles Bills offensive tackle Deon Dawkins. He's
a friend of the show. He's really hyping this matchup
against the Jets.
Speaker 10 (22:23):
So mad is gonna call some cast some tention because
that's what that's what it is, like, who wants to
play when everybody's friends like, let's push ourselves. You know,
the Jets they never liked the Bills, and the Bills
they never liked the Jets, and it was a great matchup,
you know, And that's all it is, you know, creating
the narrative that we want and that I want and
go after it, come out swinging.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I'm for sure, swaying, that's gonna be a great game,
should be excellent. You know what happens when you get
the interim coaching house. First couple of weeks, team plays great.
Jets will be on hair on fire. That's what interim
coach his first couple of weeks. Teams play very well
for interim coaches.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
This is the state of the Bills.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I'm looking at the injury report and uh Khalil Shaker,
who is He's very crucial to that offense.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I think he's caught every target Josh Allen's thrown at him.
Did not practice.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Now this is a Monday night game, so obviously Thursday
is not as big, but he did not practice yesterday
with the ankle Colin nobody on that receiving course scares
the Jets, Okay, Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
DJ Reid.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
As long as they spy Josh Allen, I think they
should be able to contain him.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Is this playing five material for you?
Speaker 6 (23:35):
It is?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I think it's a really good game. It's a really
really good game. So excited about well, No, I think
I think the franchise now it's it's Aaron franchise. I mean,
before we talked about it now it is you're not
gonna blame the interim coach if they lose. So now
it's Aaron's franchise. I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Jamack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So this is amazing and you never see this, and
it's the third time it's happened. So first Pete Carroll
wanted Russell Wilson out, and then Sean Payton had a
quote once he inherited Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
I'll read you the quote.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Quote he said, will you blankety blank stop kissing all
the babies? Sean told Russell Wilson per ESPN, you're not
running for public office. And then Arthur Smith said this yesterday.
He loves he loves Justin Fields because I mean there's
like three levels to this. There's no drama to Justin Fields.
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He doesn't try to live through the avatar or create
a perception. That's probably why he was so endearing to
his teammates in Chicago. That is a direct shot that's
not even subtle at Russell Wilson, and whether Russell Wilson
and his handlers want to hear or not among players
and coaches in this league, he is viewed as a phony.
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I've never ever seen anything like this, a star or
former star being called out, even guys that are a
headache like to had his fans. But Russell Wilson in
just a few seasons has gone from perennial Pro Bowl
or two Super Bowls to I'm not sure anybody wants
him in their locker room. Certainly no coaches. Pete didn't,
Sean didn't, and now Arthur Smith is over him. So
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I mean, we're just four years removed from less let
Russ cook and they did and he burnt the kitchen down.
So here we are a nine year stretch with seven
Pro Bowls and two Super Bowls and Arthur Smith, I mean,
usually assistants don't do a lot of talking with the
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Pittsburgh Steelers. Arthur Smith is calling him out. And I'll
be the first to admit I got fooled. I thought
he not Pete Carroll and Marshawn Lynch in the Legion
of Boom. I thought he was engine hearing the drama
and the comebacks. I thought he was the catalyst to it.
But the further you get away, you know it's almost
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like it's like you watch a movie and you really
like it and then it's got an absolutely horrible ending
and you're sitting there going what did I really watch?
Was this a vaant garde or just crap? And I
fell for it? But I mean, Pete Carroll get out
of here. Sean Payton called him out publicly, and Arthur
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Smith this, this isn't even subtle, calls him out. So,
I mean, it's I've never seen anything like it. I
think it's crazy. Here here's Arthur Smith this week with
praise for Justin Fields.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
No drama with him.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
I think he has a through the avatar great reception.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
That's probably why I'm so imparing his teammates in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
That's a really enjoy about tremely coach mole, extremely bright,
that's just different. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Caleb Williams goes to London blazing five top of Next
Hour and the pressure is official. I can't wait for this.
That's why Monday Night football is so great. That's going
to cap off the great weekend is that it is official. Now,
It's not subtle or nuanced. The Jets are now Aaron Rodgers' team.
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Win or lose credit or blame. It's all on Aaron.
I'll explain that coming up.
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Speaker 1 (28:01):
Thinking about the people in Florida and what they're going
through right now, as we prepare for a really a
dramatic sports weekend, we're thinking of you. So Aaron Rodgers
kind of a circus this week. Not necessarily in the
short term. Bad interim coaches have this weird ability to
fire up teams, maybe the players are trying to oppress
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the interim guy, whatever, but Aaron Rodgers took some responsibility
for last week's loss.
Speaker 11 (28:30):
Of The idea of manifestation involves attention and intention and
then a word that goes along with that, accountability. You know,
we can be accountable to each other. When you make
a change on the offense. It's a mirror that's held
up for all of us who played, and we all
feel terrible about the opportunity that we had that we squandered.
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That led to Robber getting fired and Hack getting demoted.
I played better, This doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
There we go Aaron being very, very truthful. I'm still
skeptical on other statements, like Woody Johnson called him after
the loss and they didn't discuss Robert Sala's future. Little
cynical on that one. Skeptical, but that was honest, and
it was Aaron's loss. Three picks against Minnesota all ugly,
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That last pass up the sideline woefully underthrown. Aaron is
not the same quarterback he was two years ago or
the MVP years.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
You can't deny that. Look at these picks. That is
a bad pick for the TV audience. That's Darnold and
New York pick this pick right here. This is what
happens to rookie quarterbacks. Then there's the pick six. I
mean again, just doesn't see somebody standing in front of him.
It was a bad Sunday. May have been Aaron Rodgers'
worst Sunday. He was awful. Sala wasn't. But here's the thing. Now,
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one hundred percent of the team, it's all on Aerin.
You can't blame he's gone. You can't blame the interim coach.
He was a coordinator an hour ago. You can't blame
Nat Hackett. As of this morning, he has been demoted.
Can't blame that, can't blame Sala. Nobody's gonna blame the
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interim coach his first week being a head coach. He's
a former player, he's young. This is what ownership looks like.
And I said this week, Aaron's the only player to
own three teams, Green Bay, the Bears, and now the Jets.
This is his team. And he said he's manifesting stuff.
I'm sure he has a vision board and he's got
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it all figured out. But this is what it should be.
When you are the savior, when you're the owner of it,
it's on you. And I'm totally comfortable with that. Here
we go, it's Buffalo, you're at home. They're reeling. It's
really interesting. There's nobody else. I said this a week ago.
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If they signed Avonte Adams, it would then be Aaron's team.
I didn't know Salah was going to get fired off
an actual, really solid defensive effort by the Jets. But
whether it's Dvante or SLA's dismissal. It's now Aaron's team
and the pressure's on him. So it's kind of report
card time. For Caleb Williams, the Chicago Bears go overseas
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to take on Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
It's a weird game.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Usually the team's favorites win over there in Chicago is
a favorite favorites win. I like Chicago, don't love them
like him Jacksonville. Ha's been over there multiple times, so
they have an advantage in the environment. But again I
think I like Chicago as a slight favorite. But there
are certain things I love in the morning, fresh fruit,
hot coffee, and the NFL when I wake up. And
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this is the first game on the board. Excited about it.
And with one young quarterbacks like Caleb Williams, you have
to sort of judge them in quadrants or phases. You
can't just look at everything is the same. And so
let's look at, you know, Phase one for Caleb Williams
three and two, frenetic, chaotic, bumpy, slightly better, last two weeks,
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really good. So phase one was not a lot of
great quarterbacks. Matt Stafford, yes, but playing without Pooka, Cooper
Cup and two of his starting offensive linemen. They go
three and two. The second phase is really interesting Jacksonville
and Trevor Lawrence, Washington and Jaden Daniels Arizona, Kyler Murray,
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Drake May and New England and Jordan Love. So it's
basically five really really talented young quarterbacks, which is exactly
what he is. And so you're gonna see two quarterbacks
Drake May and Jaden Daniels that were in his draft class.
And then you get his biggest rival, quarterback Jordan Love,
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also young in his division. And then you get two
stars that we inker stars but they should win more,
Trevor Lawrence and Kyler Murray. So the next this next
bunch of games is really interesting. It's all young quarterbacks.
I mean even it was Kyler Murray, like twenty five,
twenty six years old. Like, it's all young quarterbacks, all
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first round picks, all super talented, all of them until
recently ascending.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
We all kind of feel Drake May we haven't seen yet.
But so now in phase two, Phase one, it was
a lot of Will Levis. It was Anthony Richardson, let's
be honest about this. It was Andy Dalton, you know,
it was a lot of that, and so you're just
watching him be trying to improve in Phase one, but
he comes out of it three and two.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
NFL.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I thought said this before the season. Did Chicago have
favor with the schedule. They could win some games, get
momentum and be interesting. Phase two teams are better, quarterbacks
are better, and all these quarterbacks are sort of in
his group, his level. You know, obviously Trevor Lawrence has
more experience and they'll play Sunday, and so does Kyler
Murray Jordan loves not that much more experience, but it's
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been in the league a long time. He just sat
behind Aaron Rodgers. So I think this stuff's next five games.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
It is hot.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's basically the stack up phase. Phase one was all right,
let's get our feet under us. Phase two is how
does Caleb Williams stack up? And no super Bowl quarterbacks here.
There's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no superstar quarterbacks. There's no
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Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. It's just young dudes.
That's what it is. It's young dudes and phase two
of his career. This week, his teammate d J. Moore
said he's being more of a leader because he's getting bossy.
Here is Caleb.
Speaker 12 (34:54):
I think certain people you can be a little bossy
with certain PB have to talk very monotone and in
control of yourself. I'll tell him just people that you
can just kind of lash out. And I don't really
lash out much. It's not really my uh my vibe.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
I want to go back to last night because you know,
my feeling has been about brock Purty. So I thought
he was He inherited a Mercedes Benz. They gave him
the keys and said listen, just don't drive into a tree.
And he did a really good job, and everybody was
going crazy MVP votes. I don't care about awards at all.
I mean, Yoki should have been a three time MVP.
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They gave it to Mbat.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
It was silly.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yokic was won a title that year, clearly the best player,
most valuable player in the league. But I watched brock
Purty last night, and then then there was the game
a couple of weeks ago where he's running around without
Christian McCaffrey, and I have said, okay, I will acknowledge
that I have not given his athletic ability enough respect
and he's a good quarterback. But I thought last night
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was important because Gino Smith has made the Pro Bowl
back to back years. In every everybody loves Geno Smith's story.
And he's significantly better last night than Geno Smith. So
he's not mahomes Alan Lamar. We know that, but I
think you have to put him above the Derek Carr
and the Geno Smith. I think that's fair. I watched
Derek Carr on Monday throw a ball up the sideline
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all these years in the league that looked like a
backup on a rookie contract. Derek Carr was bad on Monday,
And you know what, Brock Purty's not bad. There are
times he's less efficient or times he disappoints you in
the red zone. How often has Brock Purdy been what
Geno Smith was last night or what Aaron Rodgers was
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last week?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
You're like, that's.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Bad, and so as I watched him last night, my
takeaway is one of the things that matters in quarterbacks
is not just the ceiling.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
You know what it is. It's the Kirk Cousins thing.
It's consistency.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I kind of get the same game out of Brock Purty,
good or that's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
That's really good.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
I don't get a lot of stinkers. And last night
Geno Smith kind of a stinker. You don't get that
with him, and it's not And you know, we watched
a couple about a week ago. We watched Kirk Cousins
tole for five football fields and Kirk's never gotten the love.
You start looking at the NFL record book, you'd be
surprised how often Kirk Cousins has a record or is
near the top. He keeps winning everywhere he goes, and
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you don't have a lot of moments before Thursday, was
there a game that you're like, that's one of the
great games ever for a quarterback. No, and so we
don't love DA's got a lot of this quality. I
kind of get the same guy every week. I mean,
sometimes they don't have a run game. Dak will throw
bad picks. Everybody throws bad picks. Mahomes throws bad picks.
But as I'm watching Purty last night against Geno Smith
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back to back Pro Bowls, I'm like, he's better than
Geno Smith. And Pete Carroll thought Gino was good enough
may coff him his job. He did, And so it's
begrudging respect to brock Purty is he doesn't have any stinkers,
And that is one of the things you have to
say about Kirk Cousins who have been lauding for the
season the signing Thursday. Kirk doesn't give you a lot
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of stinkers. You kind of know what you're getting, and
that is part of being a great quarterback. You can
have a bad pick. Mahomes rarely has an awful game.
He has bad picks.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Everybody does.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
So how's that My hottest take off the Niners win
over Seattle is brock Purdy. He's knocking on the door
of Mahomes. Alan Lamar that that Crew Burrough there's a
group of four who are above everybody.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Brock Purdy is approaching it and Colin.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's not just because of the numbers, which are incredible
nine point one yards per attempt last night insane, but
the way he's moving in the pocket and the poison
he moves really well.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Doesn't look rattled. Some quarterbacks, my left tackle's falling apart.
They get shaky.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Brock Purty looks totally under control at all times, and
like you said, he doesn't really vomit all over himself
and you see some guys, Oh there's a pick.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Even Josh Allen had a nine for thirty game. Brock
doesn't give you that rocket.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
One bad game against I think the Ravens last year.
Remember it was like football game. I think he had
four picks. Okay, it was a bad one at home.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
That's fine. That's one game in.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
Like three years.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Also Baltimore outside of the Rams, crushed everybody at home.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
They did murder everyone. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Rock Purdy looks like he's in total control at all times.
They're down to their third string running back. They're nursing
a lead. Did Rock Perdy get rattled?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
He just delivered. I mean, the guy is.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Clutch van Yeah, it's you know.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
And I was just watching him and Gino last night
and I didn't trust Gino when he let go of
the ball, and I trusted Rock Purty.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Why Gino throwing fifty two times? By the way, what's
that all?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
What's funny?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
They have?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
They have a star running back and walker and a
good backup, and they can't run the ball, and they've drafted,
they've had used their draft cap in the last several years.
On the old line they can't run the ball.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Their right tackle somebody stone foresyth sounds like, oh yeah,
they drafted him from Florida years ago.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
He got destroyed.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
He doesn't doesn't all doesn't, doesn't move particularly well. All right,
blazing five. Our two is coming up.