October 14, 2024 • 49 mins
John reacts to the Bengals 17-7 win over the New York Giants on Sunday Night Football. He dives into how the Bengals needed this win if they have any hopes of making the playoffs this season, and how despite the loss, the Giants did a lot of good things and just need to find a way to score and they will be competitive. After, a quick take on Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets ahead of a marquee Monday Night Football matchup.
Later, John talks about his experience at the Red River Rivalry and some of his biggest takeaways from both Texas and Oklahoma. Next, John dives into his overrated and underrated from the weekend.
6:26 - Sunday Night Football Reaction
20:38 - Red River Rivalry Reaction
30:50 - Overrated or Underrated
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What is going on my people? Little Sunday night football
with the Bengals and the Giants. Thank god, that's over.
A couple quick dots on that game. I don't know.
I don't have much on uh Burrow versus Daniel Jones.
Bengals win, get a much needed win. I felt like
the Giants had a chance. It's like, damn, are they
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gonna be three and three? Nope, two and four, headed
toward probably six wins. Quick thought on Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets, who obviously playing a big game tonight, which
is I think pretty important for their season. You're like,
no shit, John, No, I mean obviously, but just you
got an interim coach. You know, I think we're pretty
(02:30):
I don't think things are being held together by you know,
super tightly. Let's just say I wanted to talk a
little bit about my experience at the Red River Game Oklahoma,
Texas and overrated and underrated, a little segment we do
every Sunday, just done some things that we saw in college,
not college, but the NFL because I go on Colin.
(02:52):
So me and him talked about a bunch of stuff,
a lot of takes there with him, propose a little
trade that I now that Aiden Hutchson's injured player the
Lion should go after. And other than that, Yeah, we'll
just have podcasts Aaron Rodgers, Bill's Game, whatever, reacting after that,
and go check out the Colin podcast, subscribe to the
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of content up there as well. I think that's it.
Let's just dive into the show. But first, you know,
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Bengals and Giants first and foremost anytime that let's start
with the Bengals. Last week, they had several double digit
leads as in the the Ravens had to score multiple
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times to tie the game or take the lead. The
Bengals easily should have won that game. It was one
of Joe Burrow's greatest performances of his career. There was
literally not a throw in that game that didn't you
wouldn't chock up as like you could make a highlight
for his career just on that game alone. The touchdowns,
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the big third downs, just the overall performance. It was legendary.
And when you score thirty eight points in regulation in
the NFL, you should win one hundred percent of the time.
You should never lose that game. And you know, you
look at the Bengals and the question mark has been
to that game they lose. You go to the Washington
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game at home, they do not force a punt. And
I understand they've had injuries. Every team's had injuries. It's
part of Honestly, it feels like more guys are hurt
this twenty twenty four season than I ever remember. But
you're paying your defensive coordinator a lot, You've had a
lot of success with them. You should be able to
manipulate spots where you just can get a stop. Then
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you have games like tonight where I understand Lamar is
a little different animal than Daniel Jones. And you know,
Malik Neighbors is multiple week concussion protocol even though he's
going to the Travis Scotts concert during the week, and
Brian Dabeles like will handle that in the house. Clearly
they weren't thrilled with that. But regardless, they played well
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last week on the road in Seattle, and I get
Seattle's defense isn't good, but you had to like the
Bengals came in, took them really seriously and kicked their
ass and worked them. And if they had just played
had moments like tonight, not games moments in the Ravens game,
this seems three and three, and we're going, hey, look
at the landscape, look at the AFC. They get ten wins,
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no problem, but that loss. I'm even saying, hey, list
the Washington game wasn't their knight, but the raven game.
They should have won that game and right now they
should be three and three. And one of the big
differences tonight when they had to have a big throw,
Daniel Jones couldn't make it. Joe Burrow boom, even in
a game like this is a forgettable box score for him,
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beside the touchdown run, the throw has to be made
rolling to his left. Classic Joe Burrow. Why is a
fifty million dollar guy? Because we know the type game
that he can have, like last week or the game
against Washington, and then he can have for his standards
clunker and find a way in the biggest moments to
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essentially end the game, which he did. But I think
the hard part of your Bengal fan, and this is
the thing that's kind of hanging over Zach Taylor. You
dig yourself such a hole, you know it might be
too late to drop the shovel and start climbing out,
because it's very, very difficult just to get back to
six and six from one to four, because even if
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you win again, you're three and four, then all of
a sudden, you drop a game, you're three and five.
It's just really, really hard. And that Raven game, we
might look back if they end up eight to nine,
might have been the difference in the season because if
you win that game, who knows, maybe you're that much
more likely to be a ten win team. Losing that
game forces you that seven to eight range. It's not
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just the one individual game, but it's the mindset every
single week where you feel like you can't take a
breath or else you're gonna drown. And I think that's
kind of what you know, the Bengals found themselves in
a situation. So listen, if their defensive line steps up,
they're gonna be a problem, because that's kind of been
one of their calling cards. Now. You know, they've lost
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some dvs over the last couple of years, but the
defensive line played and I looked way better than it
had earlier this season. I think if you're the Giants,
Dave All looks pretty natural in that offensive coordinator position.
And I think he's clearly been extra aggressive this season,
partly because when you know your team can't score in
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these fourth down scenarios, you know, kicking a field goal, okay,
it ties the game, but like, if I'm going to
win the game, this is my only opportunity. I don't
make it past the twenty yard line, held like the
thirty five yard line. Thirty five yard line might as
well be the red zone for the Giants. But when
you're paying your quarterback this much money, and listen, he'd
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been playing well, and you watch them tonight, you go
something's just in the biggest moment national television. This is
a team like they're obviously they're defense playing well, but
they're struggling to score. If we just get to I mean,
you get that last touchdown that makes it seventeen. But
if the Giants had just been able to get to
thirteen points in the third quarter, it would have been
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in feeling in great shape. Instead, they have no points
going in a halftime, get a touchdown in the third quarter,
You're just like, this team fucking sucks, and I get
Moliku Neighbors is not around, but in the NFL, you
should be manipulate basically close to two touchdowns and they
just cannot do it. And everyone was scoring on this defense.
So it just gets back to Daniel Jones. Every time
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he kind of want to start liking I'm like, ah,
he's having a pretty solid season. He's actually been better
than the way people talk about. Then you watch them tonight,
You're like, yeah, this that's the guy that I know
in love. That's the guy because I've come away going
you know, I gotta like a couple of their receivers,
Neighbors comes back. If they ever were able to get
a tight end in the offseason, he felt comfortable about
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to put with Robinson and Slayton and be like, kind
of like their skill guys draft a running back. Their
defense obviously has some pieces. Brian Burns. I don't pretend
to know all his work to have watched all of
his snaps in Carolina, played in a lot of irrelevant games.
But tonight that fucker looked like a thirty million dollar
a year guy. That guy to night was like, damn,
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I don't want that dude on my team. He had
stretch there in the fourth quarter. He made like four
straight plays, lit up. Joe Burr looked like he broke
his rib. Had another play where he shed like a
a a pulling guard, tackle, stood him right up, threw
him off, made the tackle. Another played b lines it
down the line of scrimmage to make a tackle. It's like,
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Geez didn't know yet this in the bag because usually,
like to me, he's been a little bit more of
a flash player. But you get that level of play
with that defensive line. Their defense has played well as
a whole. Like the Bengals speaking, if they had won
that Ravens game all of a sudden, if the Giants
were able to win this game, which was extremely winnable.
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You're three and three, but instead you lose. Now to me,
you're looking at like five six wins, because that's just
you know, you get on the roller coaster of Daniel Jones,
because your defense isn't gonna play like this every night.
That's just that's that much is clear. And I thought
that they had that stretch, Like you look back, if
Daniel Jones had played a little bit better in the
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Cowboy game, they win that game was there for the taking.
But who let him down in that game? How many
passes you know deeper down the field did Daniel Jones
hit DB's in the butt, skip off guy's feet. He
is just not a dependable player. And that's hard to
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say out loud when you're paying someone forty million dollars
a year. I don't care what business you're in, whether
it's pro sports, whether it's real estate, whether you name
the industry. If I put the price point out, yeah,
this cost us forty million dollars a year, you would
like to feel good about that operation, that entity, that player,
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that artist, whoever. So you can tell me, oh, this
is the price of admission. Well, if that's the price
of admission for quarterbacks. We now have a pretty clear
view of you pay the wrong guy, you are screwed.
And it doesn't mean he can't have good moments, doesn't
mean he can't have good games, doesn't mean he's un
a likable, good human being, good face of the franchise,
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nice chisel, jaw line looks good in a suit, some
short shorts in the summer, like god, it's a good
looking dude, well educated from Duke. But this is pro football,
meaning for sixty minutes. If you play quarterback for I
don't need it all seventeen weeks, but I don't know
a large percentage of the games. I need to rely
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on you pretty heavily. And every time it's like, oh,
kind of need you tonight, buddy, kind of need you.
It's like, where'd you go? That's what I kind of
felt like tonight that one. If I'm Dave all hurts
like that sucks had to cross my mind. I'm looking good,
I'm skinny now calling the plays. I got the little
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glasses on. I thought he was downing Up's a pretty
good place. Obviously, the defense made some you know, the
DBS made some good plays late in the game. But
I feel like guys are kind of getting open. It's
just can you trust the quarterback? I think it was
like twenty one to forty tonight. Uh One quick thing
also on New York Sports, Big weekend for New York Sports,
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Mets Giants both lose to night. You've got Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets and the Yankees tomorrow. Tariko and Collins
are talking about that at the end of the game.
Quick take on the Jets. I think tomorrow is either
you win. It's like, okay, you can have a real
season and compete to you know, be that eight to
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nine Mark. I don't think they're a playoff team. Didn't
think that before, solid don't think that now. But they
win tomorrow. Like i'd listen to the argument. If they
lose tomorrow, it is over. Get ready for Implosion Central.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I think they're gonna lose. I plan on putting money
on the bills. And I know, and we've talked about
this before the interim coach. You know, the kind of
the fake excitement or the fake boost of energy that
you get from it had a little typhood before I
recorded this. Probably not a great idea, but if they
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lose tomorrow night. In six days, they play the Steelers,
who don't quite look as good as they did the
first three or four week but are still a very,
very difficult team to play. The Jets are going to
be coming off a short week Sunday Night football. I
like the Steelers in that spot, especially the Jets are
two and four. So if the Jets are going to
save their season, you fire Robert Sola on Tuesday, you
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bring Oldbrick Rogers saying no blood on my hand. I
had nothing to do with what. He just called me
to ask me what I had for dinner, how many
times I went to the bathroom, and what show I
was gonna watch before I went to bed. That's all
we talked about. It is what it is now, Oldbrick
Todd downing Aaron Rodgers. Let's go. I'm betting against them,
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but I know this. If they lose this game, like
I think four or five wins is on the table,
their defense, John all get ready for disaster. You win,
Like we already knew we were on the emotional rollercap.
That's not gonna end just because they got rid of
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Robert solid who let's face it was actually a pretty
calm individual. It's not like Saul acted like Nick Siriani.
He was pretty mellow. Maybe Aaron Rodgers thought he was
two mellow. So now you get the kind of more
bravado former player Oldbrick. See if it works. I don't
think it will, but it better if the Jets don't
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want to have a similar year to last year in
the previous year of just disaster. Better find a way
to beat the Bills. Okay, before we get to a
little overrated underrated, I did want to talk about my
experience at the Oklahoma Texas game. And I don't go
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to obviously many games anymore because Sunday is just such
an important workday for me and it's so important for
me to be able to keep track and watch everything.
When you go to a game, you can't watch everything.
And Saturdays, I've been saying for a while I wanted
to go to a big game. It is difficult to
get in and out of LSU. You know, it is difficult.
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It's just too cold to go to Ohio State Michigan.
But like LSU at night obviously would be number one
on most people's bucket lists, and that game I watched
the decent amount of the second half against Old Miss.
It's just very difficult. So I settled for the Red
Rouval rivalry, which I'm sorry is pretty badass. So and
I got me home before the ten Am games even
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kicked off, so that there was a convenience factor there.
But part of it is I wanted to take in
the festivities and I on the surface of this whole
thing is I am very jealous of you guys that
went to big programs, And it doesn't just have to
be like Texas and Ohio State. It could just be
any Power five like you went to Ohio, Iowa State,
or Boston College or Washington State, that you just have
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a program in football and basketball, even if they suck
every once in a while, has a good season, and
you and the people you went to college with maybe
meet up for a game and there's an experience there
that your team plays on television, it just matters. It's
why I take a lot of pride in Fresno State
and the people I know that I worked with there
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and that played for them when I was there. It
was an experience that changed my life, obviously professionally, but
even personally. It meant a lot to me to coming
from cal Poly just a sports means a lot to me,
and football specifically, and it didn't matter there at all,
and it's not something that you share in common with
the people you go to college with. And at Fresno's
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it's not Texas or Oklahoma, but it does have a
communal impact on people that go to school there, that
follow the program, the community. It's it was cool and
Oklahoma Texas is that on steroids times one hundred and
that game. First off, it's at the state fair, which
in theory should be really cool. It is unless you
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like not having any space like there are. There has
to be hundreds of thousands of people inside this fair ground,
which is an awesome sight to see if you had
like an aeroview, but trying to work your way through
it even wanted to get like fried turkey legs or
the corn dog or whatever. I mean, there are so
much incredible food that there's seven hundred people in every line,
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so it is difficult. It was a lot of people,
which is why we just had screw it. It was
like we got there at about eleven o'clock, the game
kicked off at two thirty. By about twelve fifteen, we're
like let's just go to the stadium. Let's just get
in there and eat food in there because you couldn't move.
And so we did that and that stadium was completely full,
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probably thirty minutes left to go before kickoff. And the
passion of these two programs, it's just something that and
I was thinking about this. I've been to a lot
of NFL games. You can't fake youthful energy. And the
one thing you get at these college games. Now, this
game's unique because it's like a split crowd. But even
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if you just went to a Texas home game, or
an Oklahoma home game, or a Bama home game or
Arkansas home game or whatever, any big programs home game,
having the students there is something you don't get at
NFL games. And I think there's an energy that those
kids bring. It's weird. I was me and Maria. It's like,
got the girls look like fifteen and some of these
guys look like seventeen. Like these guys are twenty one.
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Now some of them were definitely not of age drinking
next to us, but it's just like they just look
so young, Like did I look that young when I
was in college? But they're passion for the program, and
it's just something you can't fake in an NFL game,
the pageantry of the bands. It's just it's a very
very unique environment of mcconae specific to this game is
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I'm in the Oklahoma section because my guys worked there
forever and I because I'm an adopted fan of the program.
And McConaughey walks out probably with like twenty five thirty
minutes to go before kickoff, and every single person I'm
talking probably if they're seventy thousand people, I mean, you know,
in the entire stadium, half of them our Texas people.
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You're talking thirty thousand people, all doing horns down as
he's got this smile walking right in front of the
section doing horns up of like this is awesome, this
is really really cool. And then the game starts and
obviously Oklahoma is not very good. And my overall take
from a football standpoint is one Oklahoma will be fine
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big picture. They're just missing so many offensive guys. They've
always recruited good offensive players. That's not gonna be their issue.
If they are gonna be good on defense and get
an offense, their program is gonna be okay. But Texas
clearly has national championship aspirations, and I'm not trying to
overreact on a couple passes when the guys miss some games.
But even as the game went on, like one of
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the reasons listen starks an excellent play color and it
was on full display in that game. And he was
much more willing to run the ball obviously this season,
and even at points in time a couple of years
ago when he had Bijon, I thought like, this, hand
your guy the ball, and that's the easiest way to like,
don't put it all on your quarterback shoulders, because Quinn
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yours to me. Again, it's only one game, and I
know he has a larger body of work. I've never
been the biggest fan. And then I came around in
the Michigan game and now he's been hurt a bunch,
and then I'm watching him overthrow guys. I'm like, I
don't see it. You couldn't put a gun to my
head and I would take him one, like I just say, yeah,
pull a trigger. I don't even know if I see
a first rounder. Now I understand that's not the way
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it works in football. If he's viewed as a top
fifty player he'll end up going in the first round,
But I don't know. To me, he just looks like
historically the type guy that would get drafted on Day two.
He plays on an absolutely loaded team. NFL wideouts, NFL
offensive lineman, NFL running backs, awesome defense. They obviously got
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a good coaching staff. Now, this college football season's pretty
wide open. I don't think there's any like you got
to go through this team. Could Texas win the National
championship one hundred percent? Could they lose, you know, in
the Elite eight or Final four or whatever because he
has a terrible game one hundred percent? So I think
they are a little bit of a wild card. And
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the one thing I was sitting around a couple of
Texas fans and I just said, like, what would it take?
Could he ever get benched in a game? Like if
he throws three picks and you're down to Georgia in
the third quarter, would they go to Arch or is
just one of those would you lose a game with Quinn?
Like how long is the rope? And only Sark and
the coaching staff truly knows that, Like even Arch and
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Quinn probably don't really know that. But and I'm not
acting like Arch today today is that much better in
quinn yours because he has way more experience. But you
could feel the vibe. As long as Quinn's winning, everything's cool.
And that's the cool part about these programs. It's like
they treat like they know this squad like you would
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an NFL team. And I think this is a little
bit of a powder keg. If they get into a
big game. Now, you can lose a game and still
make the playoffs. I think Texas probably plans on trying
to run the table here, and they played Georgia this week.
I think they're better than Georgia. But I think the
two quarterbacks have a lot in common. You watch them,
they're like, yeah, they're fine, they're good college players. But
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let's talk about them going number one overall based on
what I've seen so far, seems crazy. It seems insane,
but hey, I mean, what do I know this podcaster now?
So yeah, it was just an awesome experience. The getting
there and leaving is just I have a lot of
respect for you guys that go to games because it's
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one thing about football, and it was cool being there,
having beers, being in the atmosphere, but watching a game
on the couch you see so much more. It is
the greatest television sport in the history of America, and
I don't think it's possible for it to ever be
topped because they're the viewing experience at home or at
a bar or whatever, just on television dramatically trumps being
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at the game. It's not even close. And that's why
going to a game for me has to really matter.
And I think for you guys to go now. It
doesn't mean you can't have good seats and see everything
that's going on, but I think we all would acknowledge
you get a better viewing experience to know exactly what's
happening at home on television, which is what I've said forever.
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In the NFL like they like you to come to
the games. N B a season ticket holder, but at
this point in time they don't really give a shit.
They make their money from television. College has definitely turned
into that as well. Now they are because their budgets
are much smaller, their television packages are smaller. They still
like you, especially the universities, because they use it to
pay for all the other sports. You to go to
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the games. It matters for Texas and Oklahoma and every
program to sell seats, Like I'm not acturate, it's way
more important in college. But the bigger and bigger these
television deals get like it's very important for you to
watch the games. And that was the one thing you realize, like,
I'm glad I went. And it was a really cool
experience even though the game kind of sucked for we
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left in the third quarter. Like you know, the first
quarter was really good, really intense. Second quarter for half
of it was solid. Then this game just unraveled. But
you're just like, God, this game probably better on TOVID
because you know what, if it sucks, I can change
the channel. I turnative Florida Tennessee. And that's the one
thing that football, like, go into an NBA games, if
you have good seats is awesome. It's just it's an
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awesome experience. Baseball just depends on what happens football, whether
good game is good or bad. It's just it's not
as good as being home. It's just simply not Okay,
let's do a little overrated, underrated and then get you
out of here. One thing, I I flew home on
(27:00):
Jet JSX, which is essentially like the commercial private airline,
but it's not that expensive. Like if my ticket would
have been two fifty, I get this ticket for like
five hundred. But it only flies out of certain areas.
And I saw that they fly Dallas to Phoenix. You
can show up five minutes before the flight and you
basically walk right on. It's a small airline. The the
(27:23):
Wi Fi is Starlink. I see. I have all these
people in the media love talking shit about Elon. I mean,
they are fucking morons. Starlink is fucking incredible. I watched
on the plane the Sunday morning game, no different than
I would have if I was sitting on my couch
and home the intern I was, I was tweeting, I
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was on scrolling on Instagram. I was reading some articles.
The power of that thing was mind blowing. My brothers
used it forever as a farmer because he'll be out
in podunk nowhere and he's like, needs to look something up.
He said forever. He's like, it is badass. And JSX
not only is the when you just wake up an
hour before we need to leave, e a little breakfast go.
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It was worse than in a couple hundred extra dollars.
Now you can't get the flights everywhere, so it's very
town specific. But that internet is easily I've never been
I've been on a I've never really been on a
private jet, but I don't know if private jets have
great internet. But I have never ever been on a
commercial airline ever that had an internet that would hold
(28:28):
a candle to what I just experienced today in that starlink.
So props to them for having the starlink. So I
watched the game this morning and it unraveled. Obviously the
bearst curb stomped him, and I was thinking, this, you
know what's overrated? Think you just because you'll get the
number one overall pick and there's some sweet quarterback in
the draft, see this in the NBA because there's some
sweet prospect that that guy will save your franchise. Trevor
(28:51):
Lawrence one. It truly is. And listen he he actually
showed a little more passion I thought this morning, being
into the game even late as they're getting their ass kicked. That,
you know, was, I guess nice to see. But he
has some throws in that game where you're just like bro. Now,
he also had some drops Gabe Davis hands at point
in time looked like me. The LSU rookie dropped a
(29:15):
touchdown that went right through his hands. That was pretty embarrassing.
So it wasn't all on Trevor Lawrence. But let's face it,
when they drafted him, they expected more. I don't know
why they would have expected more last offseason, like you
did have a body of work. But I definitely thought
he was a better player, even based on his first
three years than what we're seeing now. I thought it
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was insane to give him two hundred million dollars. But
when you're the Jags, like, let's face it, there was
just kind of a stink to your organization. Doug will
get blamed that the defensive coordinator that kind of has
got like that porn star mustache going clearly's awful. You know.
Part of it when you're an owner is when you
get really mad. I'm sure shod like Woody last Week's
(29:58):
got a bunch of buddies over in the in the
London area, so he's rubbing elbows with all the rich
the Euros and they're sitting there watching the team getting embarrassed.
It's a tough look, but I think one thing that
bothers you is you justify in your head. Someone can
fix Trevor. We gave him two hundred million dollars. He's
a worthy player. Someone can make that right. I think
(30:19):
where you get bothered is like we need a new
defensive coordinator. Okay, a defensive coordinator even if they don't
have that much leverage, still costs like two year deal
three million dollars. So like I am paying this human being.
I was talking about this to someone at a bar.
This weekend could have been one of like seven days.
I've been drinking a lot. Need to go on a
big clean starting Monday. But how many employees in America.
(30:42):
I'm not talking business owners, I'm talking W two employees,
non athletes or you know, musical artists or even like
someone in Hollywood shooting in Netflix makes seven figures as
a W two employee. That number is so small. And
you get football coaches. I mean, I can't tell you.
(31:04):
I don't have the information, but I've said this forever.
I know that all the offensive and defensive coordinators in
the NFL all make seven figures, all of them. Countless
offensive line coaches do. Some defensive line coaches do do
you understand how much money that is to be an
employee that won, Like, yeah, there are some employees that
make seven figures. Most of those guys are in like
(31:25):
high level management positions. If I am the offensive line coach,
I'm not even the highest guy in the totem pull
on my side of the ball. So Shad Khan cuts
his check to this defensive coordinator that looks like he
could have been in Dirk Diggler and Boogie Knights. I mean,
that's the stats he's got going and he is getting
shredded on a weekly basis. You're sewing. You're like, I'm
(31:48):
paying this guy one and a half one point seventy
five million dollars. Like that's the type stuff that really
pisses you off because the way you made your money,
like you're high paid employees, that's all relative to whatever
your industry. You felt like, we're giving you a lot,
So you always kind of justified the players. It's never
their fault, but the coaches. They're the easiest ones to blame.
(32:10):
And once you start paying these huge freights, even if
you're making a lot of money, you're like, this is
heads are going to roll. Underrated. I hate to keep
beating a dead horse here. But it is crazy how
it's almost underrated. I don't think we're even talking about enough.
How bland Tom is. And I don't blame him because
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this is not his thing. This is entertainment, and he's
been an entertainer for thirty years as a player. It
wasn't his press conferences were always really really boring. That
was never his thing. Now that he talks for a living,
you gotta entertain. You know what's funny is I said something.
(32:53):
I made a comment on one of these videos of like Belichick,
Lombardi and Matt pa Tricia. I said, I wish you
would just remove Matt Patricia and just let the other
two guys talk. I don't need Matt Patricia, who's bringing
nothing to the table. And there were a lot of
like somehow all these comments showed up in my inbox
(33:15):
thing on Instagram, and one guy, guy looks like a
complete douche, just came off the top rope and was like,
who are you. This guy's got twenty five year experience.
You shut up. You only scattered in the league for
a couple of years. You the fuck You can't have
an opinion. I'm not saying that Matt Patricia doesn't know football.
If you just said talk football between you and Matt Patricia,
(33:39):
he would know more than me. He would know more
than most people. But now he talks for a living
and he's on these shows. It's like, okay, entertainment, and
every time he talks, I want to either fast forward
to turn it off because he brings nothing to the table.
He will not say anything. It's why so many coaches
are so bad once they get in the media, because
(34:00):
they all want to get back into coaching. And I
think that's the biggest fraud move. It's like, well, you're
just trying to get a little paycheck here, but either
say something or just don't do this job, because especially
if you're a guy that was a dick to the
media and didn't care about this side, like Okay, you're
gonna enter this realm, like your job is now to entertain.
Can you entertain me? Or can you not? And I
(34:21):
think Tom is really struggling like his entire life when
he talked about football, unless he was doing a true
like one on one interview with you know whoever over
the years and got really personal and was like really
powerful whenever he got into a situation where the mike
was in front of him, a lot of people were
looking at him, which is essentially what's happening now. He
was pretty bland. He was not the guy that like
(34:45):
Julian and Gronk and Grabel talks about, all these guys
talk about this incredible personality. He just didn't really have it.
That's the thing. Like Vrabel's a good example. Rabel went
from player, big personality transition into coaching and after a
while you like felt like when Vrabel would talk, you
(35:05):
kind of got the player meets the coach personality. Obviously,
as a coach you can't just say whatever you think.
You gotta be careful about certain things. But it was
like I got to feel his personality. I'm watching Tom,
I feel his He had cotton in between, which is understandable.
This is not his I mean, this is technically his job,
but he's got no training to do this. And how
in his in defense of them, how would he even
(35:28):
know what was entertaining because for twenty straight years on
Sundays he was playing. He's not watching all these games,
doesn't know what's good or bad. I'm not saying he
didn't watch games in some of his free time, but
he was more looking like, all right, we played this
team in three weeks. I wonder what their front is.
Were you and me and everyone that's been watching football
casually our entire life because we didn't play in the
(35:50):
NFL for ten, fifteen, twenty years, knows what's good and
bad and just wants to be entertained. And I think
it's pretty difficult for him. I really do. And I'm
not trying to shit on him, but like, I just
think it's like kind of crazy how he can't I
don't know, he just like be one of the guys.
(36:10):
It's been really really hard for him to kind of
figure that. I mean, it's not happening. It's not happening.
And today's a good example. When you get these blowout games,
that's when the best shined, like a Gruden, you know,
a Madden, like just you kind of got entertained. Now
pull some fucking tricks out of your back pocket and
let her rip. And he just not gonna have that.
(36:31):
Can he get that over the next five years maybe?
And listen, he's gonna own the Raiders. Because I had
someone on a mail bag hit me up about what
will the Raiders do when Mark Davis dies because he
doesn't have any kids. Well, he's doing this job because
they're paying him for almost four hundred million dollars. But
he needs that capital to keep investing or have investing
(36:51):
so he can make money to ultimately purchase this team.
I'm sure the league, but you need a lot of
money to be able to purchase this team as the
majority shareholder, which gets to pull the trigger on the decisions.
So like, ultimately, is he just doing this job so
he can one day be the owner of the Raiders,
which I think at this point in time it's fair
to assume, yeah, because I bet he really really wants
(37:14):
to own the Raiders. Well, to own the Raiders, let's
just say Mark lives another five eight nine years is
going to be really really expensive. We're talking not like
two three billion, We're talking like eight to nine and
he needs to accumulate as much money as humanly possible
before that to even have a chance to cut that
big of a check overrated. I was thinking about this
(37:36):
this morning on the plane. Again. Starling just blew my mind,
it really did. Uh. Roger Goodell, I guess said this
morning that an international Super Bowls on the table, which
a lot of you guys have been hitting me up
against or about, and I said, yeah, I mean I
wouldn't bet against it, but who knows, it'd be logistical nightmare.
But clearly they're talking about it. I think these two
(37:59):
things go hand in and you have a game in
Europe or a six thirty am kickoff every single game
basically of the year, you know, like fifteen Sundays a year,
maybe sixteen. You wouldn't do it that first week, I
guess you could, but it would basically be all year round.
It would be its own property Sunday morning games at
(38:20):
six thirty for us on the West Coast. And it
hit me today, do you know what would become immediately
overrated and basically unnecessary? Now I've thought these things were overrated.
I don't watch them. Are pregame shows on Sunday morning. Now.
I get these networks need programming. ESPN needs to put
some on TVCBS, Fox. I get it from a programming standpoint,
(38:42):
But if they're partly what else are you going to
be watching Sunday morning? You know in October November, it's
nothing else on television if there's a game on, even
if it's a bad matchup, you would just have it
on your television in the background. So why would you
do counter programming these pregame shows. They're hanging these guys
millions of dollars, Well, why would you keep doing that?
(39:06):
I wonder if the pregame show, if this does come
to fruition, this is like, yeah, we're all in on London.
We're gonna have Super Bowls there every six seven years,
and we're gonna play a huge its own slate of
games which we will sell to Amazon or Netflix or
whatever one day. I wonder if these pregame shows would
be done, Why am I paying four guys a combined
(39:28):
three million dollars, you know to do this? We just
do reruns. We could just show who knows some tape programming.
We don't need this, so I think they would be
in trouble. Underrated downtown stadiums. Before I went to Texas
this week, I was in Nashville and the Titan Stadium.
(39:49):
They're actually building a new one right behind it. It's
gonna be awesome. One where it's located right now is
probably a top five location in all the league into
terms of how the city meets the stadium, and I've
seen it go the other way, right when the Niners,
a lot of people wanted them to build downtown San
Francisco like the San Franco Giants did, and they ended
(40:10):
up building in Silicon Valley because the money and it
just it was a point of contention for a long time.
Still kind of is if you don't live in southern California.
There's nothing like a downtown arena when it works right,
it is just perfect. And the Raiders are a good example.
They just built the stadium on the strip. It just works,
(40:31):
it really does. And being in Dallas, you know, you
got Jerry's Palace, which I get it why he built
it out there, but you know, it's not like it's
downtown Dallas, right, So some of these stadiums, you know,
Seattle is a good example, right downtown and not specifically
located or some would call central downtown, but you know
what I mean, And I think there's something pretty cool
(40:52):
about having your downtown, the cool parts of your downtown
walkable and accessible to the stadium on game, which obviously
benefits as well for concerts. Overrated sitting rookies. Just let
him play. I was I was gonna look up, did
(41:13):
Drake may throw three touchdowns or one today? Or I
mean two? I know I saw him throw two, but
I just want to get this number right. Obviously, Jayden
Daniels has had a fantastic rookie season, Caleb Williams really
coming into his own balling, and bo Nix, who's been
definitely up and down. He is played every game. He
(41:36):
threw three through three sestowns. I'm pretty sure Jacobe had
five after after five games and listen to Patriots stink
and he was running around for his life. But he
did make a couple throws like yeah, if I was
a Patriots fan, this is what I want to see.
And I think it's pretty clear. The Crafts told Drod Mail, yeah,
(41:58):
we're down with Jacobe. Play the kid, And my first
reaction is like, probably not the greatest way to do business.
Because even girod Mayo said last week, I think a
couple of times like this, my decision is my decision.
I thought long er, there's my decision, Like, no, it's
probably not. But listen, I don't care this. People want
to see this player. If you're gonna lose, at least
show him play. And if over the course he throws
(42:19):
some picks, throw some touchdowns. At least he adds a
little life to your franchise. Think how much better Caleb,
Jade and bo Nix. If all these guys become star quarterbacks,
they will all say Jaden already is Caleb? Obviously the
last two weeks has been fantastic. They can look back
in three years like that rookie year really meant a lot.
I got to really build and figure out what I
(42:40):
was good and bad at. And I think the best
experience or the best way to learn and get better
at whatever you do is always experience. You know a
lot of us and listen can be guilty of this.
Like you plan, you think, you write notes like sometimes
you just gotta do. Like successful people, eventually they start
doing He's got to do it. You get asked all
(43:00):
the time, how do I do a podcast? What do
I need to do to grow? But just start doing things.
Then you figure out what you're good at, what you're
bad at, what you do you need to do more of.
No matter what the industry is, unless you start doing something,
you can apprentice all day long, whether it's a construction
job site, whether it's architecture, whether it's podcasting. Eventually, you
gotta do it for yourself, and yeah, you might fuck
(43:21):
up multiple times depending on the job. Hopefully it's not
something so serious, but like eventually, if you're gonna be
heart surgeon, and like you gotta do the heart surgery,
you know, like eventually, if you are whatever, you gotta
do it. And I think the Patriots have to be
pretty happy that they just pull the trigger and this
(43:42):
guy's gonna get a lot of run, even though their
team is really really bad. Underrated. The Bucks offense, there
were a couple kind of fluky picks. I was pretty
locked into that game early because Spencer. They were up
seventeen to nothing, then somehow they're up twenty, they're down
twenty to seven, went back and forth, and then it
just became a boat race in like middle of the
(44:05):
third quarter, which the Saints they got issues, they got problems.
But the Bucks offense is pretty elite. I mean, they
got players for date. These two running backs, Bucky Irving,
that guy is pretty damn good. Their offensive line to me,
looks pretty solid. Godwin had two touchdowns to day. If
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your best wide receiver obviously is Mike Evans, that's your
number two, you're in pretty good shape. And now that
your running backs are good, Adden's a good player. Like
that's just a good offense. Now are they gonna win
the Super Bowl? I don't know, but they are not
an easy team to play. Obviously, Bakers resurrected his career.
It's been impressive to watch. Overrated, you know it was
(44:49):
it was named this year this week that old Brick
told Todd Downing, you're up hackets down Rogers the offensive coordinator,
Like what who's calling plays? Like, give me a break.
Aaron Rodgers is gonna do what Aaron Rodgers wants to do.
(45:09):
It'd be one thing. It's like, hey, you know we
had this guy, his name was Mike Shanahan or you know,
think of whoever the most famous guy is. Like Andy
Reid had retired and was just like a consultant. It's
like we just elevated Andy Reid seventy two years old. Like, okay,
you went from Nat Hackett, who obviously is not very good,
(45:31):
to Todd Downing. Let's not act like you just brought
Gary Kubiak out of the bullpen here. So if you
don't think this guy's resume and the equity has just
in the league that if some play calls happen on
Monday Night, then Aaron's like, it is fucking stupid. He
not calling an audible or calling a different play in
(45:53):
the huddle. What does he care? What is Todd Downing
gonna do to him? So this notion that changing the
offensive coordinator makes that big of a change for Aaron Rodgers.
Now the plays might work because he plays well and
maybe there's a little bit better ebb and flow, but
I truly believe they're kind of calling the plays that
(46:14):
Aaron wants to call. Call me naive, like I just
he's just letting Hacket do everything. Give me a break
forty years old. I don't believe it. And underrated will
end on this. How big a douche is Sirianni? I mean, seriously,
what a screaming at the fans? If you want to
(46:34):
do it on the road? Listen, competitive sports people talk shit.
I don't doesn't bother me that much. But at home, hey, homie,
these people are You're paying customers. These people pay the
bills around here, and they're booing you because you are
struggling to beat Deshaun Watson, the Cleveland Browns, who are
(46:55):
probably gonna win three or four games this year. I mean,
just an atrocious football team. That's why they're booing you,
and that's why they're screaming shit at you. So yeah,
it's like, well, they were the people that threw them
snowball at Santa Claus. Yeah, I get it. Fucking some
fans are crazy. But in this specific game, when Jonathan
Villemas said on the broadcast, I don't know why they're
(47:18):
even booing these guys. You don't because Jonathan, it looks
like they're gonna lose or are in a close game.
At the time, they were winning by three, but the
Browns were driving. Actually it was a tie game and
Jalen had just thrown out of bounds. That's when they
ended up kicking a field goal to go up thirteen
to ten. And Billman goes, I can't believe they're bowing them.
Where do you want them to throw them? It's not
about a specific play, it's about the overall product. The
(47:42):
city cares, and they're watching a team like they have
a frame of reference. Now, they know what good football
looks like, and they know what bad football looks like.
And the Eagles right now in that game, beside a
couple of plays on offense. The offense is putrid. Sacking
Deshaun Watson a lot doesn't get you a lot of
credit into that twenty four. He gets sacked all the time.
(48:03):
He constantly runs into sacks. But that effort was more
than doable, and Sirianna to go back at it with
his own fans like, I get it, you're fired up,
you're excited, Like I think that is one of the
doucheier moves going, like if I'm Jeffrey Lurry. It's like, bro,
the people that pay premiums sitting in a lower bowl.
(48:26):
This ain't nineteen eighty seven. Google how much costs to
go to some of these games, especially for the big boys.
It ain't cheat paying a shitload of money. They're allot
a fucking boo. Unless Sirianni comes out and says something
like they said something about his daughter. It's like if
they're just screaming at you before shitty football, it's one
of those bro you wear you go yeah, fuck it,
(48:47):
be better next time. That was embarrassing. I haven't seen
his press conference yet, but if anything else beside the
press conference coming off of BUYE, that was an embarrassing performance.
Thanks aj Brown for a couple of big plays and
Davante for the one touchdown I listen. I don't really
take a guy seriously anymore because that move just scream
at the fans. I hate. I despise when the media,
(49:13):
I think treats fans often like shit, even though like
they literally pay for their jobs. Like, who do you
think is consuming you? I think most coaches and I
think even players now have somewhat there's some balance, Like
I get as a young player not quite understanding, like, yeah,
these guys kind of pay the bills. They hear crazy shit.
Obviously coaches hear crazy shit, but as a coach like
(49:35):
you kind of gotta take it if a player wants
to chirp back, like yeah, it's a little different. As
a coach, it's one of those just give the guy
thumbs up and go locker room. The volume
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with the Bengals and the Giants. Thank god, that's over.
A couple quick dots on that game. I don't know.
I don't have much on uh Burrow versus Daniel Jones.
Bengals win, get a much needed win. I felt like
the Giants had a chance. It's like, damn, are they
(02:06):
gonna be three and three? Nope, two and four, headed
toward probably six wins. Quick thought on Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets, who obviously playing a big game tonight, which
is I think pretty important for their season. You're like,
no shit, John, No, I mean obviously, but just you
got an interim coach. You know, I think we're pretty
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I don't think things are being held together by you know,
super tightly. Let's just say I wanted to talk a
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a lot of takes there with him, propose a little
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with the Bengals. Last week, they had several double digit
leads as in the the Ravens had to score multiple
(04:44):
times to tie the game or take the lead. The
Bengals easily should have won that game. It was one
of Joe Burrow's greatest performances of his career. There was
literally not a throw in that game that didn't you
wouldn't chock up as like you could make a highlight
for his career just on that game alone. The touchdowns,
(05:08):
the big third downs, just the overall performance. It was legendary.
And when you score thirty eight points in regulation in
the NFL, you should win one hundred percent of the time.
You should never lose that game. And you know, you
look at the Bengals and the question mark has been
to that game they lose. You go to the Washington
(05:29):
game at home, they do not force a punt. And
I understand they've had injuries. Every team's had injuries. It's
part of Honestly, it feels like more guys are hurt
this twenty twenty four season than I ever remember. But
you're paying your defensive coordinator a lot, You've had a
lot of success with them. You should be able to
manipulate spots where you just can get a stop. Then
(05:53):
you have games like tonight where I understand Lamar is
a little different animal than Daniel Jones. And you know,
Malik Neighbors is multiple week concussion protocol even though he's
going to the Travis Scotts concert during the week, and
Brian Dabeles like will handle that in the house. Clearly
they weren't thrilled with that. But regardless, they played well
(06:16):
last week on the road in Seattle, and I get
Seattle's defense isn't good, but you had to like the
Bengals came in, took them really seriously and kicked their
ass and worked them. And if they had just played
had moments like tonight, not games moments in the Ravens game,
this seems three and three, and we're going, hey, look
at the landscape, look at the AFC. They get ten wins,
(06:39):
no problem, but that loss. I'm even saying, hey, list
the Washington game wasn't their knight, but the raven game.
They should have won that game and right now they
should be three and three. And one of the big
differences tonight when they had to have a big throw,
Daniel Jones couldn't make it. Joe Burrow boom, even in
a game like this is a forgettable box score for him,
(07:00):
beside the touchdown run, the throw has to be made
rolling to his left. Classic Joe Burrow. Why is a
fifty million dollar guy? Because we know the type game
that he can have, like last week or the game
against Washington, and then he can have for his standards
clunker and find a way in the biggest moments to
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essentially end the game, which he did. But I think
the hard part of your Bengal fan, and this is
the thing that's kind of hanging over Zach Taylor. You
dig yourself such a hole, you know it might be
too late to drop the shovel and start climbing out,
because it's very, very difficult just to get back to
six and six from one to four, because even if
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you win again, you're three and four, then all of
a sudden, you drop a game, you're three and five.
It's just really, really hard. And that Raven game, we
might look back if they end up eight to nine,
might have been the difference in the season because if
you win that game, who knows, maybe you're that much
more likely to be a ten win team. Losing that
game forces you that seven to eight range. It's not
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just the one individual game, but it's the mindset every
single week where you feel like you can't take a
breath or else you're gonna drown. And I think that's
kind of what you know, the Bengals found themselves in
a situation. So listen, if their defensive line steps up,
they're gonna be a problem, because that's kind of been
one of their calling cards. Now. You know, they've lost
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some dvs over the last couple of years, but the
defensive line played and I looked way better than it
had earlier this season. I think if you're the Giants,
Dave All looks pretty natural in that offensive coordinator position.
And I think he's clearly been extra aggressive this season,
partly because when you know your team can't score in
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these fourth down scenarios, you know, kicking a field goal, okay,
it ties the game, but like, if I'm going to
win the game, this is my only opportunity. I don't
make it past the twenty yard line, held like the
thirty five yard line. Thirty five yard line might as
well be the red zone for the Giants. But when
you're paying your quarterback this much money, and listen, he'd
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been playing well, and you watch them tonight, you go
something's just in the biggest moment national television. This is
a team like they're obviously they're defense playing well, but
they're struggling to score. If we just get to I mean,
you get that last touchdown that makes it seventeen. But
if the Giants had just been able to get to
thirteen points in the third quarter, it would have been
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in feeling in great shape. Instead, they have no points
going in a halftime, get a touchdown in the third quarter,
You're just like, this team fucking sucks, and I get
Moliku Neighbors is not around, but in the NFL, you
should be manipulate basically close to two touchdowns and they
just cannot do it. And everyone was scoring on this defense.
So it just gets back to Daniel Jones. Every time
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he kind of want to start liking I'm like, ah,
he's having a pretty solid season. He's actually been better
than the way people talk about. Then you watch them tonight,
You're like, yeah, this that's the guy that I know
in love. That's the guy because I've come away going
you know, I gotta like a couple of their receivers,
Neighbors comes back. If they ever were able to get
a tight end in the offseason, he felt comfortable about
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to put with Robinson and Slayton and be like, kind
of like their skill guys draft a running back. Their
defense obviously has some pieces. Brian Burns. I don't pretend
to know all his work to have watched all of
his snaps in Carolina, played in a lot of irrelevant games.
But tonight that fucker looked like a thirty million dollar
a year guy. That guy to night was like, damn,
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I don't want that dude on my team. He had
stretch there in the fourth quarter. He made like four
straight plays, lit up. Joe Burr looked like he broke
his rib. Had another play where he shed like a
a a pulling guard, tackle, stood him right up, threw
him off, made the tackle. Another played b lines it
down the line of scrimmage to make a tackle. It's like,
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Geez didn't know yet this in the bag because usually,
like to me, he's been a little bit more of
a flash player. But you get that level of play
with that defensive line. Their defense has played well as
a whole. Like the Bengals speaking, if they had won
that Ravens game all of a sudden, if the Giants
were able to win this game, which was extremely winnable.
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You're three and three, but instead you lose. Now to me,
you're looking at like five six wins, because that's just
you know, you get on the roller coaster of Daniel Jones,
because your defense isn't gonna play like this every night.
That's just that's that much is clear. And I thought
that they had that stretch, Like you look back, if
Daniel Jones had played a little bit better in the
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Cowboy game, they win that game was there for the taking.
But who let him down in that game? How many
passes you know deeper down the field did Daniel Jones
hit DB's in the butt, skip off guy's feet. He
is just not a dependable player. And that's hard to
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say out loud when you're paying someone forty million dollars
a year. I don't care what business you're in, whether
it's pro sports, whether it's real estate, whether you name
the industry. If I put the price point out, yeah,
this cost us forty million dollars a year, you would
like to feel good about that operation, that entity, that player,
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that artist, whoever. So you can tell me, oh, this
is the price of admission. Well, if that's the price
of admission for quarterbacks. We now have a pretty clear
view of you pay the wrong guy, you are screwed.
And it doesn't mean he can't have good moments, doesn't
mean he can't have good games, doesn't mean he's un
a likable, good human being, good face of the franchise,
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nice chisel, jaw line looks good in a suit, some
short shorts in the summer, like god, it's a good
looking dude, well educated from Duke. But this is pro football,
meaning for sixty minutes. If you play quarterback for I
don't need it all seventeen weeks, but I don't know
a large percentage of the games. I need to rely
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on you pretty heavily. And every time it's like, oh,
kind of need you tonight, buddy, kind of need you.
It's like, where'd you go? That's what I kind of
felt like tonight that one. If I'm Dave all hurts
like that sucks had to cross my mind. I'm looking good,
I'm skinny now calling the plays. I got the little
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glasses on. I thought he was downing Up's a pretty
good place. Obviously, the defense made some you know, the
DBS made some good plays late in the game. But
I feel like guys are kind of getting open. It's
just can you trust the quarterback? I think it was
like twenty one to forty tonight. Uh One quick thing
also on New York Sports, Big weekend for New York Sports,
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Mets Giants both lose to night. You've got Aaron Rodgers
and the Jets and the Yankees tomorrow. Tariko and Collins
are talking about that at the end of the game.
Quick take on the Jets. I think tomorrow is either
you win. It's like, okay, you can have a real
season and compete to you know, be that eight to
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nine Mark. I don't think they're a playoff team. Didn't
think that before, solid don't think that now. But they
win tomorrow. Like i'd listen to the argument. If they
lose tomorrow, it is over. Get ready for Implosion Central.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I think they're gonna lose. I plan on putting money
on the bills. And I know, and we've talked about
this before the interim coach. You know, the kind of
the fake excitement or the fake boost of energy that
you get from it had a little typhood before I
recorded this. Probably not a great idea, but if they
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lose tomorrow night. In six days, they play the Steelers,
who don't quite look as good as they did the
first three or four week but are still a very,
very difficult team to play. The Jets are going to
be coming off a short week Sunday Night football. I
like the Steelers in that spot, especially the Jets are
two and four. So if the Jets are going to
save their season, you fire Robert Sola on Tuesday, you
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bring Oldbrick Rogers saying no blood on my hand. I
had nothing to do with what. He just called me
to ask me what I had for dinner, how many
times I went to the bathroom, and what show I
was gonna watch before I went to bed. That's all
we talked about. It is what it is now, Oldbrick
Todd downing Aaron Rodgers. Let's go. I'm betting against them,
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but I know this. If they lose this game, like
I think four or five wins is on the table,
their defense, John all get ready for disaster. You win,
Like we already knew we were on the emotional rollercap.
That's not gonna end just because they got rid of
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Robert solid who let's face it was actually a pretty
calm individual. It's not like Saul acted like Nick Siriani.
He was pretty mellow. Maybe Aaron Rodgers thought he was
two mellow. So now you get the kind of more
bravado former player Oldbrick. See if it works. I don't
think it will, but it better if the Jets don't
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want to have a similar year to last year in
the previous year of just disaster. Better find a way
to beat the Bills. Okay, before we get to a
little overrated underrated, I did want to talk about my
experience at the Oklahoma Texas game. And I don't go
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to obviously many games anymore because Sunday is just such
an important workday for me and it's so important for
me to be able to keep track and watch everything.
When you go to a game, you can't watch everything.
And Saturdays, I've been saying for a while I wanted
to go to a big game. It is difficult to
get in and out of LSU. You know, it is difficult.
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It's just too cold to go to Ohio State Michigan.
But like LSU at night obviously would be number one
on most people's bucket lists, and that game I watched
the decent amount of the second half against Old Miss.
It's just very difficult. So I settled for the Red
Rouval rivalry, which I'm sorry is pretty badass. So and
I got me home before the ten Am games even
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kicked off, so that there was a convenience factor there.
But part of it is I wanted to take in
the festivities and I on the surface of this whole
thing is I am very jealous of you guys that
went to big programs, And it doesn't just have to
be like Texas and Ohio State. It could just be
any Power five like you went to Ohio, Iowa State,
or Boston College or Washington State, that you just have
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a program in football and basketball, even if they suck
every once in a while, has a good season, and
you and the people you went to college with maybe
meet up for a game and there's an experience there
that your team plays on television, it just matters. It's
why I take a lot of pride in Fresno State
and the people I know that I worked with there
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and that played for them when I was there. It
was an experience that changed my life, obviously professionally, but
even personally. It meant a lot to me to coming
from cal Poly just a sports means a lot to me,
and football specifically, and it didn't matter there at all,
and it's not something that you share in common with
the people you go to college with. And at Fresno's
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it's not Texas or Oklahoma, but it does have a
communal impact on people that go to school there, that
follow the program, the community. It's it was cool and
Oklahoma Texas is that on steroids times one hundred and
that game. First off, it's at the state fair, which
in theory should be really cool. It is unless you
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like not having any space like there are. There has
to be hundreds of thousands of people inside this fair ground,
which is an awesome sight to see if you had
like an aeroview, but trying to work your way through
it even wanted to get like fried turkey legs or
the corn dog or whatever. I mean, there are so
much incredible food that there's seven hundred people in every line,
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so it is difficult. It was a lot of people,
which is why we just had screw it. It was
like we got there at about eleven o'clock, the game
kicked off at two thirty. By about twelve fifteen, we're
like let's just go to the stadium. Let's just get
in there and eat food in there because you couldn't move.
And so we did that and that stadium was completely full,
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probably thirty minutes left to go before kickoff. And the
passion of these two programs, it's just something that and
I was thinking about this. I've been to a lot
of NFL games. You can't fake youthful energy. And the
one thing you get at these college games. Now, this
game's unique because it's like a split crowd. But even
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if you just went to a Texas home game, or
an Oklahoma home game, or a Bama home game or
Arkansas home game or whatever, any big programs home game,
having the students there is something you don't get at
NFL games. And I think there's an energy that those
kids bring. It's weird. I was me and Maria. It's like,
got the girls look like fifteen and some of these
guys look like seventeen. Like these guys are twenty one.
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Now some of them were definitely not of age drinking
next to us, but it's just like they just look
so young, Like did I look that young when I
was in college? But they're passion for the program, and
it's just something you can't fake in an NFL game,
the pageantry of the bands. It's just it's a very
very unique environment of mcconae specific to this game is
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I'm in the Oklahoma section because my guys worked there
forever and I because I'm an adopted fan of the program.
And McConaughey walks out probably with like twenty five thirty
minutes to go before kickoff, and every single person I'm
talking probably if they're seventy thousand people, I mean, you know,
in the entire stadium, half of them our Texas people.
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You're talking thirty thousand people, all doing horns down as
he's got this smile walking right in front of the
section doing horns up of like this is awesome, this
is really really cool. And then the game starts and
obviously Oklahoma is not very good. And my overall take
from a football standpoint is one Oklahoma will be fine
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big picture. They're just missing so many offensive guys. They've
always recruited good offensive players. That's not gonna be their issue.
If they are gonna be good on defense and get
an offense, their program is gonna be okay. But Texas
clearly has national championship aspirations, and I'm not trying to
overreact on a couple passes when the guys miss some games.
But even as the game went on, like one of
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the reasons listen starks an excellent play color and it
was on full display in that game. And he was
much more willing to run the ball obviously this season,
and even at points in time a couple of years
ago when he had Bijon, I thought like, this, hand
your guy the ball, and that's the easiest way to like,
don't put it all on your quarterback shoulders, because Quinn
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yours to me. Again, it's only one game, and I
know he has a larger body of work. I've never
been the biggest fan. And then I came around in
the Michigan game and now he's been hurt a bunch,
and then I'm watching him overthrow guys. I'm like, I
don't see it. You couldn't put a gun to my
head and I would take him one, like I just say, yeah,
pull a trigger. I don't even know if I see
a first rounder. Now I understand that's not the way
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it works in football. If he's viewed as a top
fifty player he'll end up going in the first round,
But I don't know. To me, he just looks like
historically the type guy that would get drafted on Day two.
He plays on an absolutely loaded team. NFL wideouts, NFL
offensive lineman, NFL running backs, awesome defense. They obviously got
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a good coaching staff. Now, this college football season's pretty
wide open. I don't think there's any like you got
to go through this team. Could Texas win the National
championship one hundred percent? Could they lose, you know, in
the Elite eight or Final four or whatever because he
has a terrible game one hundred percent? So I think
they are a little bit of a wild card. And
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the one thing I was sitting around a couple of
Texas fans and I just said, like, what would it take?
Could he ever get benched in a game? Like if
he throws three picks and you're down to Georgia in
the third quarter, would they go to Arch or is
just one of those would you lose a game with Quinn?
Like how long is the rope? And only Sark and
the coaching staff truly knows that, Like even Arch and
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Quinn probably don't really know that. But and I'm not
acting like Arch today today is that much better in
quinn yours because he has way more experience. But you
could feel the vibe. As long as Quinn's winning, everything's cool.
And that's the cool part about these programs. It's like
they treat like they know this squad like you would
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an NFL team. And I think this is a little
bit of a powder keg. If they get into a
big game. Now, you can lose a game and still
make the playoffs. I think Texas probably plans on trying
to run the table here, and they played Georgia this week.
I think they're better than Georgia. But I think the
two quarterbacks have a lot in common. You watch them,
they're like, yeah, they're fine, they're good college players. But
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let's talk about them going number one overall based on
what I've seen so far, seems crazy. It seems insane,
but hey, I mean, what do I know this podcaster now?
So yeah, it was just an awesome experience. The getting
there and leaving is just I have a lot of
respect for you guys that go to games because it's
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one thing about football, and it was cool being there,
having beers, being in the atmosphere, but watching a game
on the couch you see so much more. It is
the greatest television sport in the history of America, and
I don't think it's possible for it to ever be
topped because they're the viewing experience at home or at
a bar or whatever, just on television dramatically trumps being
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at the game. It's not even close. And that's why
going to a game for me has to really matter.
And I think for you guys to go now. It
doesn't mean you can't have good seats and see everything
that's going on, but I think we all would acknowledge
you get a better viewing experience to know exactly what's
happening at home on television, which is what I've said forever.
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In the NFL like they like you to come to
the games. N B a season ticket holder, but at
this point in time they don't really give a shit.
They make their money from television. College has definitely turned
into that as well. Now they are because their budgets
are much smaller, their television packages are smaller. They still
like you, especially the universities, because they use it to
pay for all the other sports. You to go to
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the games. It matters for Texas and Oklahoma and every
program to sell seats, Like I'm not acturate, it's way
more important in college. But the bigger and bigger these
television deals get like it's very important for you to
watch the games. And that was the one thing you realize, like,
I'm glad I went. And it was a really cool
experience even though the game kind of sucked for we
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left in the third quarter. Like you know, the first
quarter was really good, really intense. Second quarter for half
of it was solid. Then this game just unraveled. But
you're just like, God, this game probably better on TOVID
because you know what, if it sucks, I can change
the channel. I turnative Florida Tennessee. And that's the one
thing that football, like, go into an NBA games, if
you have good seats is awesome. It's just it's an
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awesome experience. Baseball just depends on what happens football, whether
good game is good or bad. It's just it's not
as good as being home. It's just simply not Okay,
let's do a little overrated, underrated and then get you
out of here. One thing, I I flew home on
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Jet JSX, which is essentially like the commercial private airline,
but it's not that expensive. Like if my ticket would
have been two fifty, I get this ticket for like
five hundred. But it only flies out of certain areas.
And I saw that they fly Dallas to Phoenix. You
can show up five minutes before the flight and you
basically walk right on. It's a small airline. The the
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Wi Fi is Starlink. I see. I have all these
people in the media love talking shit about Elon. I mean,
they are fucking morons. Starlink is fucking incredible. I watched
on the plane the Sunday morning game, no different than
I would have if I was sitting on my couch
and home the intern I was, I was tweeting, I
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was on scrolling on Instagram. I was reading some articles.
The power of that thing was mind blowing. My brothers
used it forever as a farmer because he'll be out
in podunk nowhere and he's like, needs to look something up.
He said forever. He's like, it is badass. And JSX
not only is the when you just wake up an
hour before we need to leave, e a little breakfast go.
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It was worse than in a couple hundred extra dollars.
Now you can't get the flights everywhere, so it's very
town specific. But that internet is easily I've never been
I've been on a I've never really been on a
private jet, but I don't know if private jets have
great internet. But I have never ever been on a
commercial airline ever that had an internet that would hold
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a candle to what I just experienced today in that starlink.
So props to them for having the starlink. So I
watched the game this morning and it unraveled. Obviously the
bearst curb stomped him, and I was thinking, this, you
know what's overrated? Think you just because you'll get the
number one overall pick and there's some sweet quarterback in
the draft, see this in the NBA because there's some
sweet prospect that that guy will save your franchise. Trevor
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Lawrence one. It truly is. And listen he he actually
showed a little more passion I thought this morning, being
into the game even late as they're getting their ass kicked. That,
you know, was, I guess nice to see. But he
has some throws in that game where you're just like bro. Now,
he also had some drops Gabe Davis hands at point
in time looked like me. The LSU rookie dropped a
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touchdown that went right through his hands. That was pretty embarrassing.
So it wasn't all on Trevor Lawrence. But let's face it,
when they drafted him, they expected more. I don't know
why they would have expected more last offseason, like you
did have a body of work. But I definitely thought
he was a better player, even based on his first
three years than what we're seeing now. I thought it
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was insane to give him two hundred million dollars. But
when you're the Jags, like, let's face it, there was
just kind of a stink to your organization. Doug will
get blamed that the defensive coordinator that kind of has
got like that porn star mustache going clearly's awful. You know.
Part of it when you're an owner is when you
get really mad. I'm sure shod like Woody last Week's
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got a bunch of buddies over in the in the
London area, so he's rubbing elbows with all the rich
the Euros and they're sitting there watching the team getting embarrassed.
It's a tough look, but I think one thing that
bothers you is you justify in your head. Someone can
fix Trevor. We gave him two hundred million dollars. He's
a worthy player. Someone can make that right. I think
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where you get bothered is like we need a new
defensive coordinator. Okay, a defensive coordinator even if they don't
have that much leverage, still costs like two year deal
three million dollars. So like I am paying this human being.
I was talking about this to someone at a bar.
This weekend could have been one of like seven days.
I've been drinking a lot. Need to go on a
big clean starting Monday. But how many employees in America.
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I'm not talking business owners, I'm talking W two employees,
non athletes or you know, musical artists or even like
someone in Hollywood shooting in Netflix makes seven figures as
a W two employee. That number is so small. And
you get football coaches. I mean, I can't tell you.
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I don't have the information, but I've said this forever.
I know that all the offensive and defensive coordinators in
the NFL all make seven figures, all of them. Countless
offensive line coaches do. Some defensive line coaches do do
you understand how much money that is to be an
employee that won, Like, yeah, there are some employees that
make seven figures. Most of those guys are in like
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high level management positions. If I am the offensive line coach,
I'm not even the highest guy in the totem pull
on my side of the ball. So Shad Khan cuts
his check to this defensive coordinator that looks like he
could have been in Dirk Diggler and Boogie Knights. I mean,
that's the stats he's got going and he is getting
shredded on a weekly basis. You're sewing. You're like, I'm
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paying this guy one and a half one point seventy
five million dollars. Like that's the type stuff that really
pisses you off because the way you made your money,
like you're high paid employees, that's all relative to whatever
your industry. You felt like, we're giving you a lot,
So you always kind of justified the players. It's never
their fault, but the coaches. They're the easiest ones to blame.
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And once you start paying these huge freights, even if
you're making a lot of money, you're like, this is
heads are going to roll. Underrated. I hate to keep
beating a dead horse here. But it is crazy how
it's almost underrated. I don't think we're even talking about enough.
How bland Tom is. And I don't blame him because
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this is not his thing. This is entertainment, and he's
been an entertainer for thirty years as a player. It
wasn't his press conferences were always really really boring. That
was never his thing. Now that he talks for a living,
you gotta entertain. You know what's funny is I said something.
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I made a comment on one of these videos of like Belichick,
Lombardi and Matt pa Tricia. I said, I wish you
would just remove Matt Patricia and just let the other
two guys talk. I don't need Matt Patricia, who's bringing
nothing to the table. And there were a lot of
like somehow all these comments showed up in my inbox
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thing on Instagram, and one guy, guy looks like a
complete douche, just came off the top rope and was like,
who are you. This guy's got twenty five year experience.
You shut up. You only scattered in the league for
a couple of years. You the fuck You can't have
an opinion. I'm not saying that Matt Patricia doesn't know football.
If you just said talk football between you and Matt Patricia,
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he would know more than me. He would know more
than most people. But now he talks for a living
and he's on these shows. It's like, okay, entertainment, and
every time he talks, I want to either fast forward
to turn it off because he brings nothing to the table.
He will not say anything. It's why so many coaches
are so bad once they get in the media, because
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they all want to get back into coaching. And I
think that's the biggest fraud move. It's like, well, you're
just trying to get a little paycheck here, but either
say something or just don't do this job, because especially
if you're a guy that was a dick to the
media and didn't care about this side, like Okay, you're
gonna enter this realm, like your job is now to entertain.
Can you entertain me? Or can you not? And I
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think Tom is really struggling like his entire life when
he talked about football, unless he was doing a true
like one on one interview with you know whoever over
the years and got really personal and was like really
powerful whenever he got into a situation where the mike
was in front of him, a lot of people were
looking at him, which is essentially what's happening now. He
was pretty bland. He was not the guy that like
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Julian and Gronk and Grabel talks about, all these guys
talk about this incredible personality. He just didn't really have it.
That's the thing. Like Vrabel's a good example. Rabel went
from player, big personality transition into coaching and after a
while you like felt like when Vrabel would talk, you
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kind of got the player meets the coach personality. Obviously,
as a coach you can't just say whatever you think.
You gotta be careful about certain things. But it was
like I got to feel his personality. I'm watching Tom,
I feel his He had cotton in between, which is understandable.
This is not his I mean, this is technically his job,
but he's got no training to do this. And how
in his in defense of them, how would he even
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know what was entertaining because for twenty straight years on
Sundays he was playing. He's not watching all these games,
doesn't know what's good or bad. I'm not saying he
didn't watch games in some of his free time, but
he was more looking like, all right, we played this
team in three weeks. I wonder what their front is.
Were you and me and everyone that's been watching football
casually our entire life because we didn't play in the
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NFL for ten, fifteen, twenty years, knows what's good and
bad and just wants to be entertained. And I think
it's pretty difficult for him. I really do. And I'm
not trying to shit on him, but like, I just
think it's like kind of crazy how he can't I
don't know, he just like be one of the guys.
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It's been really really hard for him to kind of
figure that. I mean, it's not happening. It's not happening.
And today's a good example. When you get these blowout games,
that's when the best shined, like a Gruden, you know,
a Madden, like just you kind of got entertained. Now
pull some fucking tricks out of your back pocket and
let her rip. And he just not gonna have that.
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Can he get that over the next five years maybe?
And listen, he's gonna own the Raiders. Because I had
someone on a mail bag hit me up about what
will the Raiders do when Mark Davis dies because he
doesn't have any kids. Well, he's doing this job because
they're paying him for almost four hundred million dollars. But
he needs that capital to keep investing or have investing
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so he can make money to ultimately purchase this team.
I'm sure the league, but you need a lot of
money to be able to purchase this team as the
majority shareholder, which gets to pull the trigger on the decisions.
So like, ultimately, is he just doing this job so
he can one day be the owner of the Raiders,
which I think at this point in time it's fair
to assume, yeah, because I bet he really really wants
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to own the Raiders. Well, to own the Raiders, let's
just say Mark lives another five eight nine years is
going to be really really expensive. We're talking not like
two three billion, We're talking like eight to nine and
he needs to accumulate as much money as humanly possible
before that to even have a chance to cut that
big of a check overrated. I was thinking about this
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this morning on the plane. Again. Starling just blew my mind,
it really did. Uh. Roger Goodell, I guess said this
morning that an international Super Bowls on the table, which
a lot of you guys have been hitting me up
against or about, and I said, yeah, I mean I
wouldn't bet against it, but who knows, it'd be logistical nightmare.
But clearly they're talking about it. I think these two
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things go hand in and you have a game in
Europe or a six thirty am kickoff every single game
basically of the year, you know, like fifteen Sundays a year,
maybe sixteen. You wouldn't do it that first week, I
guess you could, but it would basically be all year round.
It would be its own property Sunday morning games at
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six thirty for us on the West Coast. And it
hit me today, do you know what would become immediately
overrated and basically unnecessary? Now I've thought these things were overrated.
I don't watch them. Are pregame shows on Sunday morning. Now.
I get these networks need programming. ESPN needs to put
some on TVCBS, Fox. I get it from a programming standpoint,
(38:42):
But if they're partly what else are you going to
be watching Sunday morning? You know in October November, it's
nothing else on television if there's a game on, even
if it's a bad matchup, you would just have it
on your television in the background. So why would you
do counter programming these pregame shows. They're hanging these guys
millions of dollars, Well, why would you keep doing that?
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I wonder if the pregame show, if this does come
to fruition, this is like, yeah, we're all in on London.
We're gonna have Super Bowls there every six seven years,
and we're gonna play a huge its own slate of
games which we will sell to Amazon or Netflix or
whatever one day. I wonder if these pregame shows would
be done, Why am I paying four guys a combined
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three million dollars, you know to do this? We just
do reruns. We could just show who knows some tape programming.
We don't need this, so I think they would be
in trouble. Underrated downtown stadiums. Before I went to Texas
this week, I was in Nashville and the Titan Stadium.
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They're actually building a new one right behind it. It's
gonna be awesome. One where it's located right now is
probably a top five location in all the league into
terms of how the city meets the stadium, and I've
seen it go the other way, right when the Niners,
a lot of people wanted them to build downtown San
Francisco like the San Franco Giants did, and they ended
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up building in Silicon Valley because the money and it
just it was a point of contention for a long time.
Still kind of is if you don't live in southern California.
There's nothing like a downtown arena when it works right,
it is just perfect. And the Raiders are a good example.
They just built the stadium on the strip. It just works,
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it really does. And being in Dallas, you know, you
got Jerry's Palace, which I get it why he built
it out there, but you know, it's not like it's
downtown Dallas, right, So some of these stadiums, you know,
Seattle is a good example, right downtown and not specifically
located or some would call central downtown, but you know
what I mean, And I think there's something pretty cool
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about having your downtown, the cool parts of your downtown
walkable and accessible to the stadium on game, which obviously
benefits as well for concerts. Overrated sitting rookies. Just let
him play. I was I was gonna look up, did
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Drake may throw three touchdowns or one today? Or I
mean two? I know I saw him throw two, but
I just want to get this number right. Obviously, Jayden
Daniels has had a fantastic rookie season, Caleb Williams really
coming into his own balling, and bo Nix, who's been
definitely up and down. He is played every game. He
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threw three through three sestowns. I'm pretty sure Jacobe had
five after after five games and listen to Patriots stink
and he was running around for his life. But he
did make a couple throws like yeah, if I was
a Patriots fan, this is what I want to see.
And I think it's pretty clear. The Crafts told Drod Mail, yeah,
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we're down with Jacobe. Play the kid, And my first
reaction is like, probably not the greatest way to do business.
Because even girod Mayo said last week, I think a
couple of times like this, my decision is my decision.
I thought long er, there's my decision, Like, no, it's
probably not. But listen, I don't care this. People want
to see this player. If you're gonna lose, at least
show him play. And if over the course he throws
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some picks, throw some touchdowns. At least he adds a
little life to your franchise. Think how much better Caleb,
Jade and bo Nix. If all these guys become star quarterbacks,
they will all say Jaden already is Caleb? Obviously the
last two weeks has been fantastic. They can look back
in three years like that rookie year really meant a lot.
I got to really build and figure out what I
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was good and bad at. And I think the best
experience or the best way to learn and get better
at whatever you do is always experience. You know a
lot of us and listen can be guilty of this.
Like you plan, you think, you write notes like sometimes
you just gotta do. Like successful people, eventually they start
doing He's got to do it. You get asked all
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the time, how do I do a podcast? What do
I need to do to grow? But just start doing things.
Then you figure out what you're good at, what you're
bad at, what you do you need to do more of.
No matter what the industry is, unless you start doing something,
you can apprentice all day long, whether it's a construction
job site, whether it's architecture, whether it's podcasting. Eventually, you
gotta do it for yourself, and yeah, you might fuck
(43:21):
up multiple times depending on the job. Hopefully it's not
something so serious, but like eventually, if you're gonna be
heart surgeon, and like you gotta do the heart surgery,
you know, like eventually, if you are whatever, you gotta
do it. And I think the Patriots have to be
pretty happy that they just pull the trigger and this
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guy's gonna get a lot of run, even though their
team is really really bad. Underrated. The Bucks offense, there
were a couple kind of fluky picks. I was pretty
locked into that game early because Spencer. They were up
seventeen to nothing, then somehow they're up twenty, they're down
twenty to seven, went back and forth, and then it
just became a boat race in like middle of the
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third quarter, which the Saints they got issues, they got problems.
But the Bucks offense is pretty elite. I mean, they
got players for date. These two running backs, Bucky Irving,
that guy is pretty damn good. Their offensive line to me,
looks pretty solid. Godwin had two touchdowns to day. If
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your best wide receiver obviously is Mike Evans, that's your
number two, you're in pretty good shape. And now that
your running backs are good, Adden's a good player. Like
that's just a good offense. Now are they gonna win
the Super Bowl? I don't know, but they are not
an easy team to play. Obviously, Bakers resurrected his career.
It's been impressive to watch. Overrated, you know it was
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it was named this year this week that old Brick
told Todd Downing, you're up hackets down Rogers the offensive coordinator,
Like what who's calling plays? Like, give me a break.
Aaron Rodgers is gonna do what Aaron Rodgers wants to do.
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It'd be one thing. It's like, hey, you know we
had this guy, his name was Mike Shanahan or you know,
think of whoever the most famous guy is. Like Andy
Reid had retired and was just like a consultant. It's
like we just elevated Andy Reid seventy two years old. Like, okay,
you went from Nat Hackett, who obviously is not very good,
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to Todd Downing. Let's not act like you just brought
Gary Kubiak out of the bullpen here. So if you
don't think this guy's resume and the equity has just
in the league that if some play calls happen on
Monday Night, then Aaron's like, it is fucking stupid. He
not calling an audible or calling a different play in
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the huddle. What does he care? What is Todd Downing
gonna do to him? So this notion that changing the
offensive coordinator makes that big of a change for Aaron Rodgers.
Now the plays might work because he plays well and
maybe there's a little bit better ebb and flow, but
I truly believe they're kind of calling the plays that
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Aaron wants to call. Call me naive, like I just
he's just letting Hacket do everything. Give me a break
forty years old. I don't believe it. And underrated will
end on this. How big a douche is Sirianni? I mean, seriously,
what a screaming at the fans? If you want to
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do it on the road? Listen, competitive sports people talk shit.
I don't doesn't bother me that much. But at home, hey, homie,
these people are You're paying customers. These people pay the
bills around here, and they're booing you because you are
struggling to beat Deshaun Watson, the Cleveland Browns, who are
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probably gonna win three or four games this year. I mean,
just an atrocious football team. That's why they're booing you,
and that's why they're screaming shit at you. So yeah,
it's like, well, they were the people that threw them
snowball at Santa Claus. Yeah, I get it. Fucking some
fans are crazy. But in this specific game, when Jonathan
Villemas said on the broadcast, I don't know why they're
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even booing these guys. You don't because Jonathan, it looks
like they're gonna lose or are in a close game.
At the time, they were winning by three, but the
Browns were driving. Actually it was a tie game and
Jalen had just thrown out of bounds. That's when they
ended up kicking a field goal to go up thirteen
to ten. And Billman goes, I can't believe they're bowing them.
Where do you want them to throw them? It's not
about a specific play, it's about the overall product. The
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city cares, and they're watching a team like they have
a frame of reference. Now, they know what good football
looks like, and they know what bad football looks like.
And the Eagles right now in that game, beside a
couple of plays on offense. The offense is putrid. Sacking
Deshaun Watson a lot doesn't get you a lot of
credit into that twenty four. He gets sacked all the time.
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He constantly runs into sacks. But that effort was more
than doable, and Sirianna to go back at it with
his own fans like, I get it, you're fired up,
you're excited, Like I think that is one of the
doucheier moves going, like if I'm Jeffrey Lurry. It's like, bro,
the people that pay premiums sitting in a lower bowl.
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This ain't nineteen eighty seven. Google how much costs to
go to some of these games, especially for the big boys.
It ain't cheat paying a shitload of money. They're allot
a fucking boo. Unless Sirianni comes out and says something
like they said something about his daughter. It's like if
they're just screaming at you before shitty football, it's one
of those bro you wear you go yeah, fuck it,
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be better next time. That was embarrassing. I haven't seen
his press conference yet, but if anything else beside the
press conference coming off of BUYE, that was an embarrassing performance.
Thanks aj Brown for a couple of big plays and
Davante for the one touchdown I listen. I don't really
take a guy seriously anymore because that move just scream
at the fans. I hate. I despise when the media,
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I think treats fans often like shit, even though like
they literally pay for their jobs. Like, who do you
think is consuming you? I think most coaches and I
think even players now have somewhat there's some balance, Like
I get as a young player not quite understanding, like, yeah,
these guys kind of pay the bills. They hear crazy shit.
Obviously coaches hear crazy shit, but as a coach like
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you kind of gotta take it if a player wants
to chirp back, like yeah, it's a little different. As
a coach, it's one of those just give the guy
thumbs up and go locker room. The volume
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