October 15, 2024 • 39 mins
BREAKING NFL NEWS: The Jets are acquiring WR Davante Adams following their loss to the Bills on Monday night
The Cowboys are in a downward spiral and owner Jerry Jones is not happy about it
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on a busy, busy Tuesday. Suddenly live
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making that's
part of your day. The Jets have officially boy there
they own Tuesdays. They're firing coaches or making moves. DeVante
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Adams from the Raiders has been traded to the Jets
conditional third round pick. He's expensive, that's what you're gonna
get jamac. Hopefully he can kick too. They need a
kick her and kick and catch passes. They're in good shape.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Trust in stopping the run, that would be outstanding. They
couldn't stop the run last night.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well you let go of Robert Solon, who's a great
defensive coach, and suddenly the defense did not look as
good as we think it should be.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Socker Colin.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
All right, so here we go. The New York Jets,
feeling a little desperate, make a move today. I don't
think it's a bad thing. This will eventually turn into
a positive rant for the Jets. But let's start here.
Aaron Rodgers, now with Devonte Adams, has officially gotten everything
he wanted in New York. He got his buddy, Nat Hacket,
the offensive coordinator. He got Randall Cobb, he got Alan Lazard,
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he got Dalvin Cook. That didn't work. Somethink he wanted
Robert Solid fired. We can't confirm that. And now he's
got Davonte Adams. But I said this. Now, now it's
Aaron's team, and Aaron doesn't love taking the blame. And
last night after his interception, listen very carefully to his
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words on what happened on that play.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's two verticals. You know, Alan's down the scean. MIC's
down the redline. So I'm looking at Alan. He puts
his hand up. Three guys ago with him, so I'm
throwing a no look to the red line. And when
I just peak my eyes back there, he's been an inbreaker,
so it's gotta be down the red.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Line all right, gotta be down the red line. Since
leaving Green Bay, Aaron's been living his truth, and the
truth is it's not pretty. The only wins are against
Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis. He was awful against San Francisco,
terrible against Denver, and lousy against Minnesota. That's the truth.
That's what we continue to see. And Aaron he wanted
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Nat Hackett. So everything he's wanted he's gotten. He's the savior,
and you know, he's remodeling his career. And as he
looks at the Jets house, he realizes that the one
in Green Bay left behind pretty nice setup. So you
know green Bay for year, Aaron could say, you know,
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point fingers, frugals, small market, no owner, not gonna spend
the big bucks. Well, passive, aggressive shots. Well, now he's
in big city New York. The coaches fired, his buddy's
been demoted, Mike Williams to blame, and now here comes
Devonte Adams. So here's another truth. I look this up
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this morning. Aaron Rodgers this season after last night is
twenty six in complecing percentage and twenty six in passer rating.
And the older a quarterback gets, the harder you have
to work like Tom Brady and Aaron's off seasons increasingly
are a darkness retreat meets Coachella. That's not good enough.
Here is the good news, Hassan Reddick, maybe coming, DeVante
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Adams is coming. If you look at the Jet schedule,
they developed a run game last night. They started using
motion in the offense. Go look at the Jet schedule.
There's a lot of wins. Now, if you go two
and four to start a season, you only have eleven
percent chance to make the playoffs. But these are the
quarterbacks they face in the next two months. Justin Fields,
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Drake May, Anthony Richardson, Gino Smith, Trevor Lawrence is struggling.
They do face Houston at home, and it's on a
short week for the Texans, so maybe that's a break.
So and the other good news is the Jets last
night without Hackett and a new play designer and caller
seventy three percent pre staff motion. That is three times
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greater than the previous week with Nat Hackett. So they
found a run game. They appear to have a confidence
offensive current coordinator. Hassan Reddick. Maybe DeVante Adams absolutely so
I will stick despite that loss last night, yes, yes,
Mike Williams slipped. Yes, they mixed kicks, so do the Bills.
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But I'm gonna stick with my preseason prediction. The Jets
and the Dolphins Buffalo will win this division. The Jets
and the Dolphins will battle in week seventeen and eighteen
for the final playoff spot. Hassan Reddick, Davonte Adams looks
like a run game capable OC and the Davonte Adams
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move beyond that puts Aaron in a good mood. I
think it helps the locker room. The problem when you
go two and four is players bail guys start pointing fingers.
You'd prefer it wasn't your quarterback doing it last night.
But I think Davonte Adams gives them some juice. They
got some Drake Mays coming up, some Anthony Richardson, some
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very winnable games. I do not think the season is
lost for the Jets. I'll get into the game and
the officiating and the Bills in a second, But Davonte
Adams is coming to town. I don't know if he means.
I thought the Jets were a nine win team after
last night, before they got Davonte Adams with a run game.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Their defense isn't is good now because they lost their
defensive coach, they fired him. And the offense is better
now because Aaron's buddy has been demoted. So last night
proving coaching matters. We will see if Davonte Adams matters.
But I think the Jets are going to get to
nine wins with or without Davonte. So the Cowboys were
the embarrassment of not only the league, but of Jerry Jones.
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He's owned the franchise since nineteen eighty nine. They were ambushed,
crushed by Detroit. Biggest game on national TV yesterday and
or the day before on Sunday, and it was the
worst loss for Jerry Jones in his career at home.
And that's saying something because the first year he owned
the team, they went one in fifteen. So Jerry Jones,
a very proud man, was embarrassed after the game. And
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this morning he showed up on Dallas Radio one oh
five point three the fan in Dallas, and I could
play about twenty minutes of this stuff. I'll give you
about thirty seconds. It got very contentious with the hosts.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough. Oh I remember those criticisms very well. Okay,
so what are they playing out to be accurate? What's
your point? What's your point? Now? If you think I'm
interested in on a phone call with you over a
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radio and sitting here and throwing all the good at
with the dishwater, you have got to be smoking something
over there this morning. This is not your job. Your
job is to let me go over all the reasons
that I did something and I'm sorry that I did it.
That's not your job.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Well my job is that ask my.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Job or I'll get another I'll get somebody else to
ask these questions. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So it's a very proud and embarrassed man with a
lot of ego and vanity. But frankly, Jerry Jones has
gotten in the way of Jerry Jones say this out loud,
an eighty two year old owner slash GM slash spokesperson.
It sound like it's gonna be elite. And here's the thing.
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Cowboy's been fooling a lot of media and a lot
of fans for the last two to three years because
the NFC has been down the last tour or three years.
But now Green Bay's young players are more mature, and
Detroit's kind of young players are good, and Minnesota is
a surprise, and Washington's got a star quarterback now, and
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Chicago's got a star quarterback now, and the NFC is
looking like the AFC when Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and
Mahomes kind of broke into the AFC all of a sudden,
you're looking around, going, uh, it's not the same neighborhood. Now,
NFC's good. NFC's got five of the top ten teams,
maybe the six of the top ten teams in the league.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In the last couple of years, the NFC's been down,
quarterbacks got old, Aaron Rodgers goes to the next conference.
It was down, and DAK has made a living twenty
four and four. I think it is against the Giants
in Washington. Well, the Giants aren't a push over. Now,
Washington's got the next Lamar Jackson. So they've been fooling
people with these regular season twelve win campaigns and DAK
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beating up on all the non playoff teams. Those days
are over. NFC now is stacked San Francisco's good, Green
Bay's good, Minnesota good, Detroit good, Chicago good, Atlanta good,
Tampa Bay good. Philadelphia could be good if they had
the right coach. So, you know, until Jarah realizes Jarah
is the problem, nothing's gonna change here. NFL GM is
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not a part time gig.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Nflgms you get like two weeks vacation. There's no yacht
time like. It is a sixty hour a week job.
And by the way, some of that bleeds into the offseason.
Seventy hours a week if you're talking about like draft week,
free agency week. Can't have forty eight businesses. So Jerry
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got Jimmy Johnson out of there, and they don't want
to hire a tier one coach and they don't want
to high. I are a Tier one GM, and so
I don't have any tears or empathy for Jerry Jones.
You created this mess. Go ahead and fire the radio hosts.
I mean that's not the answer. Fire and radio hosts
is not the answer. The answer is get out of
your own way. The really smart rich guys understand sometimes
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they don't know everything. They shouldn't be a spokesperson, a GM,
an owner, a part time coach. That's not what he
should be doing. So yeah, I mean that interview got
very contentious in what last night was a game and
everybody's blaming the officiating today and it was not one
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of the great officiated games. But I will say this,
in the standalone games Monday night Sunday night, I have
found through the years that the officials and the league
knows everybody's watching, the whole league is watching, and they
make a point of being fairly strident on things. They
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want to send messages like do not lean in your
shoulder to a quarterback, do not pile on. So there
were a couple of quarterback late hit, unnecessary roughness stuff
that I thought were nonsense. One against the Bills, one
against the Jets. I didn't like either of them. The
league in these standalone games. They do this in the
preseason sometimes where they want to send messages to the
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coaching staffs and players, they overcall things. Now I didn't
think those should have been called last night. They go
either way calls, But I do think in standalone games
I have seen this for years. They know every coach
and every defensive coordinator and every defensive lineman is watching
you pile on to that quarterback, hit him a half
second late. They are throwing a flag because every coach
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watched that last night goes into the meeting today with
his players and he shows you those clips and says,
don't do that. So the league has always done that
a little bit, in my opinion, in big TV standalone games.
All right, some thoughts on the game last night. A
Nick Sirianni's apologizing the Jets, through a trade third round
pick conditional, have acquired Davonte Adams. So I have this
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team at nine wins, just missing the playoffs, but in
it till week seventeen eighteen. I don't think Davonte Adams
necessarily change anything. I don't think he is what he
was two three years ago. But I will say again,
I think it adds juice. It makes Aaron happy, and
that's Aaron gets dark really quick. I mean, he goes
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dark really fast, and I think this will lift him up.
It'll be positive. The schedule to me is weak outside
of the Houston game over the next six games, so
not all is lost in New York. Jmack maybe down today.
That's okay, Jamack maybe down today. But I do think
and I said this this morning. I had written some
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notes down for the show that were very positive before
the Davonte Adams move. So it's going to take him
a couple of games to get ram up. You know,
you're not gonna walk in this Sunday and dominate the league.
But I do think it's an emotional move, not just
a personnel move that I think when you're two and four,
locker room split. You know, Spio, they always used to
joke about this in baseball. You got twenty five guys,
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you want ten. You got to keep the five that
are undecided from the ten that hate you and the
ten that love you. In a baseball locker room, when
you go into a losing streak, and in the NFL
you go two and five, you're not making the playoffs.
You go two and four, you get eleven percent chance.
The key is do you feel good about your opportunities?
And I think Davante makes you go, hey, we got
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Garrett Wilson, we've got Davonte Frize Hall now running Aaron Rodgers.
I think it lifts the room up.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well, we'll see about the hamstring injury, you know, I mean,
it's been two weeks hopefully the hamstring's fine. But Colin,
I'm very surprised that you're giving Aaron Rodgers something of
a pass this morning. Two weeks ago in London, he
was terrible. Okay, six point game, You get the ball.
This is why you add Aaron Rodgers in the offseason
to go win these games.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He throws an interception targeting Mike Woods.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Last week he was terrible last night.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Gets the ball. Forget the penalties. The Miskicks gets the
ball three minutes left at home. Hey, this is while
we got a superstar quarterback. Drive the field, get us
the points, get us the win. He throws an interception
targeting Mike Williams. So last week Rogers covered it up
by getting Solid fired. I don't care what anybody says.
We know Rogers was involved in that. So how do
you cover up another Rogers failure? Go get DeVante Adams.
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You know he talked to the owner last night. For
sure he had to have Colin. This Aaron Rodgers experiment
is going south very okay. I mean people want to
defend him, but no, no, I'm back to matree Wh's
he failed.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I actually think if you if the Jets were a stock,
they are so beaten up today they're a bye. The
Jets are a bye today. Okay, a total buff fine.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
They should also be four and two, maybe five and one.
That Broncos game again, Rodgers couldn't drive the field.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It was raining. The kicker missed.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Fine, but that Nat Hackett was the coordinator. He's out. Now.
If you watched last night, that was like a real
modern NFL offense with motion and stuff, and they ran
the ball. The offense can be fine.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well the blitz Buffalo barely blitz.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You did realize you did see when they did blitz
they sacked him three times. Jets cannot handle the blitz Vikings.
Broncos murdered the Jets with the blitz last night. A
lot of four man rush Rogers. Just okay, I can
handle this.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You sound a little bit like a fan that's descrumbed.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Pittsburgh Steelers you want to see you think they're blitzing
Heighsmith is coming back about her bib.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
One of my favorite bets of the week, the Jets
with Davante against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Are you sure Davante's playing?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, he'll play, He'll be there.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The optimist.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He'll be red zone stuff, but he'll play. Okay. We
got a lot to discuss here. Devonte Adams now a Jet.
Have I ever been this positive? I mean, what a
joyful human being. I just out there sprinkles on the cupcakes.
It's just everything's good today.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
All Right, welcome back, Bill's Beat the Jets twenty three
twenty DeVante Adams has been traded to the Jets. I
just talked about that. We'll talk about that more later
in forty minutes from now. My Herd hierarchy, I think
it's the strongest we've had. There's some real teams here
this weekend. The best quarterback, starting with last Thursday brought
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pretty over Gino and last night Josh over Aaron. The
best quarterback won every single game this weekend. That's what
we said going into this week. We said there's going
to be sort of a separation between the haves and
have nots. The bad teams now know they're bad. Guys
start bailing in locker rooms. Although I don't think the
two and four Jets will I think they're going to
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be viable. But the best quarterback won every game this weekend.
So if I want to go back to this game,
take out the hail Mary. You know, any star quarterback
gets a few of those in his career, even Aaron,
the all time leaders. You know, every five or six years,
he has a Hail Mary. Those are about ninety percent
luck and breaks. Take that game out. There were four
huge plays late in this game, and the Bills made
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all of them. The first play was late late late
third quarter, the Bills secondary tied at twenty. Aaron hits
Garrett Wilson for the go ahead touchdown and Taylor Rap,
a very physical often hurt because he's so physical safety
from Washington, bang knocks the ball out. Big time play,
forces a field goal, and the Jets mith it. That
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was a touchdown. Twenty seven to twenty. Now it's s
till twenty twenty. Now we go second, big play, Jets driving.
It is a big second and sixteen. This would have
been a first down and Taylor Rap again blows the
play up. Huge huge play that forces on this play
the interception by Tarron Johnson that maybe the closest thing
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to Ed Reed that I've seen in years. A beautiful
interception that sets up the fourth play. I'll watch the
interception again. You can say that's the Taylor play. Then
there is the interception. The fourth play, when the Bills
get the ball back on a third and four, Josh
Allen appears to call his own number and gets the
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first down. So Josh Allen, Taran Johnson, two Taylor raps.
In the last half hour of real time to forty minutes,
there were four huge plays, and the Buffalo Bills, like
the Kansas City Chiefs the Ravens in these big games,
made all of them. Taylor Rap, Tarn Johnson, Josh Allen.
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Those are game changing plays. Here is Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
After fighting through adversity, getting in a half time regrouping, saying,
let's just control, you know, one play at a time.
You know, we didn't score as any points in that
second half as I as I'd like, but found a way.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Okay, and again you can blame the officials, but Denver,
Aaron Rodgers was going for the lead and the win,
missed the field goal. Minnesota going for the win, Aaron
bad Pick. Buffalo wide receiver slips ball appears to be underthrown,
great play by the defender. You can point fingers all
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you want. Opportunities there three straight weeks. So there were
four crucial plays in that. And that's what Kansas City does.
You hang around with Kansas City and all of a sudden,
it's a big play by Chris Jones, a great play
by somebody on the corner, and Mahomes has a run
to pick up a first down. That is a Chiefs game.
So and Josh Allen, I mean, that kid, that kid
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is just I mean, we are so lucky right now.
Between Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen, these guys are
all time. Mahomes the best I've ever seen, Lamar is
the best running quarterback I've ever seen, and Josh maybe
the best pure size arm and talent and running I've
ever seen together. So you got to make plays in
these big games. And against Denver, Minnesota and Buffalo, the
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New York Jets didn't, And last night the Bills did.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
No, no, no, this is the headline news.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Well, if the DeVante Adams breaking news wasn't enough, something's
going on in Pittsburgh right now.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Tom Pelasarro is.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Reporting the Steelers plan to give Russell Wilson first team
reps in practice this week, with Mike Tomlin adding that
Russ is in consideration to start Week seven against the
New York Jets. Colin, this is a bit of a
shocking development. We knew Russ was gonna be in the mix,
but like Pittsburgh's for it too.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
This is a huge.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Game against the Jets in the conference, and you're gonna
maybe dump Fields.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm gonna give the job. I'm gonna give the Steelers credit.
So they are a defensive culture. Kenny Peckett got him
to the playoffs. They moved off him. They have a
four and two record, just win are they gonna move
off him? So that I gotta give Mike Tomlin credit.
He's not tone deaf. He moved off quarterbacks. But with
winning records getting me into the play winning games, a
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lot of coaches won't do that. Pete Carroll's stuck with
Gino Smith. He's good enough. What Mike Tomlin's saying with
Kenny Pickett, he's not good enough. What he's saying with
Justin Fields. We can do better. And I will tell
you what It tells me is he is leaning on
Arthur Smith a little bit here, and Arthur's saying, I mean,
Mike maybe saying, hey, we gotta be winning these games,
like we handed Dallas a win, and Arthur's probably saying privately,
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I'm doing all we can do here.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Wow, So you're kind of endorsing.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's not even an endorsement, it's an acknowledgement of what
the Steelers. I wasn't sure they were capable of this.
Yesterday I did a rant on there four and two.
We got our guys would agree. It's not a sustainable
method to win in the NFL at big time.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'll tell you right now, if you're the New York
Jets defense, you'd rather see Russell Wilson, the Justin Fields.
Justin Fields can break the pocket it scramble for fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Did you notice without Robert Solo, the Jets defense was.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
A little leaky last night against the run.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He left the best coach in.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The organizations ran all over them. I mean, listen, bottom
line is like, bring on Russell Wilson. I think that's
good news for the Jets. My guess is, and I'm
seeing their favorite here by one and a half. I
think the Jets are the probably the side here if
Russell Wilson starts. I'm not doubting him, but I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
There are three games this week I love Rams off
of bye, Jets against the Steelers, and Minnesota off of
by against Detroit. Those are lock him in right now.
I already told you I locked in the Rams number
yesterday at five. Now with Devonte Adams out, that number
will go up.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, we don't know if he's gonna play yet, but
I do need to ask what does this potentially do
to the locker room? Who we know likes Justin Fields
and Russ has a bit of a recent history.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
This is arisky move by tomlin Man. He usually has
a good feel for his team. He's one of the
great coaches in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But Colin, this feels, Oh boy, I gotta tell you
something makes you want to watch that Steeler game.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well, you're gonna watch Steelers two.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it anyway. But it's
it's interesting. I mean, it is very hard to bench
a very liked player off a win when you have
a winning record. It's like firing Sala when you know,
if you win the next game, you're in first place
over Buffalo four years in a row, four years in succession.
I think they've won the AFC East, Like, what are
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you doing? Sala wins this game. I think last night
with Sala they would have won the game if he
would have been allowed to demote Nat Hackett, which apparently
got him fired. I think Sala's the best coach they have.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm stunt stunned at this time. One stuff all right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Next up colin Sunday on Fox, big Super Bowl rematch,
Niners hosting the Chief Chiefs in America's Game of the
Week case beat Stanford in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Game win?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He touchdown in overtime. Trent Williams is downplaying the revenge angle.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Hmm.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
It's another game. I mean, not like we can get
payback for Lutheran an a super Bowl. That ship is sale.
So it's another game. We got to come out and
try to play complimentary football. We gotta obviously, we know
what type of team that is one of the best
teams in the league. You know, all star quarterback, you know,
great coach. So it's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Can you imagine he moves out to the left and
you're a cornerback and here comes Trent Williams to block you.
That guy is a house. I think it's more than
just that. I think the game feels it feels big.
It's a big stage with two great teams. I think
the Niners are gonna win that game. I think Kansas
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City's been playing with fire for too long. I think
at some point you can't play these close games time
after time after time.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
The Chiefs start coming off the buy right.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Reid has some time to cook up some stuff. Get
Kareem Hunt on the on the right page and.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
They still don't have Rashi Rice Well.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Not getting him anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Like I did, just look up some stats because I'm
a fantasy nerd. You want to guess who the worst
team is in the league defending tight ends so far
this year?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, their linebacker stink, So this could be a
big George Kittle game. And we know over the middle
of the field Shanahans offense loves to eat, So you're
probably right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's just I don't the last five times I've bet
Kansas City against them, I've lost and it's been over
like four years. Yeah, I don't bet the Chiefs very much.
I don't mess with them. I just don't. Well yeah,
I mean I just if you watch who I bet,
I find three or four or five teams in the
league that I feel, you know, I tend to find
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really good quarterback play. Last week I bet all the
best quarterbacks. In fact, I thought the Bills would win
last night. I predicted, but I took the Jets and
the points. The best quarterback won every game this week.
Every Now that's not going to continue on because Rock
Purty is also better than a lot of the bad
quarterbacks that lost. But it's you get you about week five,
six seven, everybody starts figuring out we've all got film
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on everybody, and the bad teams start realizing you start losing, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Hey, wonder if some teams are gonna start to pack
it in. You know has already start thinking about the offseason.
Final story, Colin is the Major League Baseball Playoffs.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
A good day to be a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Mets beat the Dodgers, Lindor hit a leadoff homer and
Mark Vientos hit a grand slam. Yep, wasn't a great
night for the Yankees initially, and then boom, Carlos rode
on with the gem and Stanton.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
And Soto both homeward.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yankees win Game one.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I watched the Mets game, and let's be honest about that.
The Dodgers went with another bullpen night or afternoon where
they pitched bullpen guys. They worked against the Padres. The
Mets had their number two starter up there. It was
not going to work against the Mets. That game was
over in like the third inning, So uh yeah, I
mean it's it's I think the Yankees are gonna end
up in the World Series. I think I think the
Dodgers Mets. I think it's better for baseball if the Dodgers,
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and I think the Dodgers will win this series. But
I think it's really, really a good series, and I
think they beat Philadelphi. Philadelphia doesn't have six Hall of
Famers on it. If the Dodgers had a healthy staff,
I think would fly through this series. But I do think,
you know, you just you got to cross your fingers
on the health of the remaining pictures you have if
you're the Dodgers, and I'm going to take them deep
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into the series.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Though Yankees Dodgers would probably be the most anticipated world series.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There was a Subway series years ago that everybody in
the media thought would be a big hit, and at
the time it was the lowest rated world series. It's
too much, it's too regional.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well you have to go back to like what the
Cubs of the World Series or the Red Side, Like,
it's been a while since you've had a marquee matchup
like this, right, Well, the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yankees haven't won yet, I don't. Yeah, they're fine. Oh,
I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, the Dodgers I'm a little worried about.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You know, it's just so funny in New York is
so hard on their coaches and their managers. The truth is,
Aaron Boone's gonna end up in a World Series. Probably
Jay Bowl's excellent for the Giants. Uh, Tom Thibodeau, say
what you want. That team. Nobody played harder than the Knicks.
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Very quickly, New York sports teams have gone from unwatchable
and embarrassing to kind of good and kind of interesting.
My take on the Jets last night was, Oh, they
ran motion. It was like a modern off. I was like, oh,
this is a real offense if the defense is eighty
percent of what it was based on what I saw
last night. I had seventy three percent pre stat motion
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the previous week with hack of the twenty five.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, that's like, that's like high school. One of the
key plays you left off made by Taylor Rap. When
Breist Hall broke that run down the sideline, I thought
he was gone, I'm errupting. The family's like yeah, finally,
and Taylor Rap comes out of nowhere and took the
perfect angle and stopped him and guess what, Jets ended
up with no points there.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's like Taylor Rapp is a very kind of a
John Lynch. Maybe not best in coverage, but an incredibly
physical play. That's why he's banged up all the time.
He sacrifices his body on hits. And those were two
huge plays by him in this late third early form.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And you want to mention Josh Allen being so smart,
how about this? He did not throw at Sauce Gardner
pretty much all night, just said I'm not one of
my tempting faith I'm not going to go there. You know.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Smart play game by Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
He was good. It was. First of all, it was
a wildly entertaining game. You can complain about the officials,
but they added drama.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It was it was good bad football right, miss field goals,
this extra points penalties.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You also get. You get into the northeast, Chicago East.
It's October, it gets windy and cold, and you're gonna
at special teams. Is going to be a circus. J
Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That heard hierarchy I have in thirty minutes. There are
some there are some teams that have pulled away. I
don't even have. I didn't leave anybody out. Very good
that comes up.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
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Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's Game three of the NLCS, with the series tied
at one. Game of He's Otani and the Dodgers look
to fight back while Lindor in the Medicine aimed to
take control. Coverage begins at seven pm Eastern four pm
Pacific tomorrow on f This one.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I told you we didn't love. In fact, we
thought it was ridiculous. Nick Seriani, Eagles coach who's done
this before, but knowing he's on the hot seat on
a by so he heard the radio people and the
media people Clawburne all week in Philadelphia at home, starts
haunting and jousting with the fans as they play Cleveland. Embarrassing.
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I had said yesterday he's going to get called into
the office Jeffrey Lourie, Howie Roseman. That is not going
to fly with the Eagles organization. That is not his job.
He doesn't even know what his role is. I mean,
security guy big Dom knows what his role is. This
guy apparently doesn't. And here he apologized for this move.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday,
and I'm sorry and disappointed an on how my energy
was directed at the end of the game. And you know,
my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating right
and celebrating with our guys.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I wanted to bring energy. Okay, we're gonna do a
new segment called stadium DJ or head coach who said it,
I want to bring new big energy. What are you
doing this? We got a breakup coming. We got a
breakup coming, and right before breakups. One of the people
in the relationship starts acting weird, shave the head, jousting
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with fans, bring your kids to the podium, and years
later you look at it and you're kind of embarrassed.
Here's the reality of this team. He's an offensive coach.
Now think about this. The Lions, the Chargers, and the
Titans all had offensive coaches, and we're all on a buy.
They all scored touchdowns and took a lead in the
first quarter. That's what offensive coaches doing a buy. Andy
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Reid McVeigh this week on a buy facing the Raiders,
they'll have a very nice first quarter. The Eagles in
a bye with a loaded stack roster with their two
star receivers back first two drives Jalen Hurts oh for five,
two punts against Cleveland, a team that's quit so the
last twenty years, teams that haven't scored in the first
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quarter through five games. Philadelphia is the only team in
the league one has made the playoffs, the Jets twenty
years ago, eighteen years ago. So that's the reality offensive
coaches off of by almost Owah's early in the game,
they put in some tricks. You see what Andy Reid
does off of Bye McVeigh Shanahan. It's just not good enough.
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This thing ain't working. So the big story today is
that Devonte Adams has been acquired. Ian Rappaport broke the story.
DeVante Adams Raiders, who, let's be honest, Raiders want to
finish with a number one pick, and I go get
a shaduor Sanders, go go get a quarterback. Shador to
me separated from the rest of college football, I thought
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he had a great weekend against a good team. I
don't know just Davonte Adams make you great. Well, they
have an interim coach, So your interim coach is not
going to go toe to toe in the playoffs with
John Harbaugh Andy Reid and outduele them. So it takes
I think interim coaches take you out of the Super
Bowl conversation in the better conference. The other thing to
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consider here with Aaron Rodgers, he's getting beat up, bad knee,
bad ankle. So I do think that Davonte Adams makes
the Jets more interesting. But if you're two and four,
you only have eleven percent chance to make the playoffs.
I think the Jets are better than eleven percent chance
to get there, mostly because New England's the worst team
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in the league and two is not playing for Miami.
So if this was if the Jets were in you know,
the NFC North. Season's over. The season's over, there are divisions,
the season's over. I think the Jets Miami. I mean,
if two is hurt again, they may just move off
him and swallow that contract. So and New England, we
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all know the story here. They're drafting one or two
or three. I predicted nine to eight. I will say this,
I said this this morning. So the Jets are two
and four. I'll give you the seven games. I think
the Jets are going to win. I'll give you the
schedule right now. I think they're gonna beat Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh.
That's gonna be a win. I think they're gonna beat
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New England at New England for obvious reasons. Houston is
a go either way game c J. Stroud, If Joe
Mixon plays, I would take Houston. I also think Arizona
there is hit or miss. Arizona can be Buffalo or
they can be Carolina. They're all over the map. I
think they beat the Colts at home. They get a
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buy and host the Seahawks. That's a win. I think
they lose at Miami but beat them in in Week eighteen.
I also think they beat Carolina and probably beat the
Rams they host. I don't think they're winning at Buffalo,
so to me, and I don't think this. I don't
think I'm being biased four against. I'm saying they're not
going to beat Houston. Arizona scares me. At Miami and
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a Buffalo are tough. But I'll give you a win
over McVeigh. I'll give you a win over Mike Tomlin
and the Steelers. I think they're going to end up
being a nine and eight team. And I think that
in that AFC because we don't know what we thought
Cincinnati was going to be good, right, and that's not
working out. And after Houston, who in the AFC South's
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getting to the playoffs. So Whereas in the NFC, every
single team in the NFC North is playoff viable today,
in the AFC, what you have is dominant teams or
favorites winning their division. The wild card nine to ten
may get you in. In the AFC. Tous her Miami's
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Miami's Rocky A Jets have a much easier schedule than
Miami down the stretch that we think the Chargers could
get to ten to eleven wins. But boy, now they
got both their wide receivers banged up. They just got
their tackles back from being banged up. Chargers have struggled
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last several years just keeping people healthy. So I think
the wild card I think the teams that win the
divisions in the AFC, Buffalo, Houston, Kansas City, I think
those teams and Baltimore, I think those were great teams.
I think nine may get you to the wild card,
probably ten, but maybe nine. I would not count the
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Jets out here. Now in the NFC, the teams that
win the division aren't as good as the AFC. Maybe
at Philadelphia in Atlanta, But in the NFC, the wild
card teams are exceptional. I mean, Green Band, Detroit could
be wild card teams. The Niners could be a wildcard team.
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I mean Baker Mayfield, would you want to play them?
How about Washington went to Totoe with the Ravens this week?
Or Philadelphia? So I think if the Jets, you know,
we're in the NFC and we're battling for a wildcard spot,
forget it. The NFC North may get three teams in.
They may get three teams in, so then you only
got one one wild card spot left. But in the AFC,
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I think the Jets can go toe to toe. Not
only would the Buffalo Bills, who will win the division,
but you could make an argument right now the Jets
are the best even at two and four, the best
wild card team potentially in the AFC. I know that's
kind of confusing, but I feel like the AFC is
top heavy but a little overrated. After that, I think
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the NFC's a little top light, but really deep, really
really deep. Have If Atlanta or Tampa do not get
into the playoffs, those are good teams. Those are I mean,
Tampa and Atlanta can go toe to toe with virtually
anybody in this league, including Kansas City. May not win,
but they can score points on anybody. So there you go,
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jam Mac. I cannot believe how positive I have been today.
It's a breath of fresh air in America, which is
very divisive. I'm very positive.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Today just in general in life about the Jets. I mean, listen,
this Jet Steelers game is enormous. This is a huge
swing game with the Steelers four and two and the
Jets two and four.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Pittsburgh is like a wildcard contender, even though we don't
think they're good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
The Jets lose this game, now they don't have the
tiebreaker with Pittsburgh and they're three back in the wildcard.
On you can just forget the season. You're right, this
is the season for the Jets.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Sunday.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, hopefully against Russell Wilson because I would much rather
face him than did Well.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I would slow down on that. Russell is also elusive,
and I think makes fewer mistakes than Justin Field's.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I feels has it made a ton of mistakes. He
just wasn't accurate, if that makes any sense. Against a
Regah Well, he's not a great pocket quarterback. He's a
great kid and a great athlete. And it's what's interesting,
he has a great arm.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know a lot of these guys you watch and
you're like, they just don't have the ability to stick it.
Like Justin's got so many things, you like, relatable, coachable, big,
big arm movement, but like a Zach Wilson, we just
don't know. Some guys don't see the field quickly. Then
you see a CJ. Stroud second game of the NFL.
You're like, he's like a veteran who's been in the
league ten years.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
By the way, one last thing on the Jets.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You think Sala's sitting at home being like, damn Rogers,
you got me fired and then you brought on your
your superstar.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You know, I think I think Sla is saying now,
the defense was awfully leaky last night. Defense was afully
leaky last night. Sure wasn't the week before against the
better offense.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on a busy, busy Tuesday. Suddenly live
in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be
and however you may be listening. Thanks for making that's
part of your day. The Jets have officially boy there
they own Tuesdays. They're firing coaches or making moves. DeVante
(00:47):
Adams from the Raiders has been traded to the Jets
conditional third round pick. He's expensive, that's what you're gonna
get jamac. Hopefully he can kick too. They need a
kick her and kick and catch passes. They're in good shape.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Trust in stopping the run, that would be outstanding. They
couldn't stop the run last night.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well you let go of Robert Solon, who's a great
defensive coach, and suddenly the defense did not look as
good as we think it should be.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Socker Colin.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
All right, so here we go. The New York Jets,
feeling a little desperate, make a move today. I don't
think it's a bad thing. This will eventually turn into
a positive rant for the Jets. But let's start here.
Aaron Rodgers, now with Devonte Adams, has officially gotten everything
he wanted in New York. He got his buddy, Nat Hacket,
the offensive coordinator. He got Randall Cobb, he got Alan Lazard,
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he got Dalvin Cook. That didn't work. Somethink he wanted
Robert Solid fired. We can't confirm that. And now he's
got Davonte Adams. But I said this. Now, now it's
Aaron's team, and Aaron doesn't love taking the blame. And
last night after his interception, listen very carefully to his
(01:56):
words on what happened on that play.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's two verticals. You know, Alan's down the scean. MIC's
down the redline. So I'm looking at Alan. He puts
his hand up. Three guys ago with him, so I'm
throwing a no look to the red line. And when
I just peak my eyes back there, he's been an inbreaker,
so it's gotta be down the red.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Line all right, gotta be down the red line. Since
leaving Green Bay, Aaron's been living his truth, and the
truth is it's not pretty. The only wins are against
Jacoby Brissett and Will Levis. He was awful against San Francisco,
terrible against Denver, and lousy against Minnesota. That's the truth.
That's what we continue to see. And Aaron he wanted
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Nat Hackett. So everything he's wanted he's gotten. He's the savior,
and you know, he's remodeling his career. And as he
looks at the Jets house, he realizes that the one
in Green Bay left behind pretty nice setup. So you
know green Bay for year, Aaron could say, you know,
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point fingers, frugals, small market, no owner, not gonna spend
the big bucks. Well, passive, aggressive shots. Well, now he's
in big city New York. The coaches fired, his buddy's
been demoted, Mike Williams to blame, and now here comes
Devonte Adams. So here's another truth. I look this up
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this morning. Aaron Rodgers this season after last night is
twenty six in complecing percentage and twenty six in passer rating.
And the older a quarterback gets, the harder you have
to work like Tom Brady and Aaron's off seasons increasingly
are a darkness retreat meets Coachella. That's not good enough.
Here is the good news, Hassan Reddick, maybe coming, DeVante
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Adams is coming. If you look at the Jet schedule,
they developed a run game last night. They started using
motion in the offense. Go look at the Jet schedule.
There's a lot of wins. Now, if you go two
and four to start a season, you only have eleven
percent chance to make the playoffs. But these are the
quarterbacks they face in the next two months. Justin Fields,
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Drake May, Anthony Richardson, Gino Smith, Trevor Lawrence is struggling.
They do face Houston at home, and it's on a
short week for the Texans, so maybe that's a break.
So and the other good news is the Jets last
night without Hackett and a new play designer and caller
seventy three percent pre staff motion. That is three times
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greater than the previous week with Nat Hackett. So they
found a run game. They appear to have a confidence
offensive current coordinator. Hassan Reddick. Maybe DeVante Adams absolutely so
I will stick despite that loss last night, yes, yes,
Mike Williams slipped. Yes, they mixed kicks, so do the Bills.
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But I'm gonna stick with my preseason prediction. The Jets
and the Dolphins Buffalo will win this division. The Jets
and the Dolphins will battle in week seventeen and eighteen
for the final playoff spot. Hassan Reddick, Davonte Adams looks
like a run game capable OC and the Davonte Adams
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move beyond that puts Aaron in a good mood. I
think it helps the locker room. The problem when you
go two and four is players bail guys start pointing fingers.
You'd prefer it wasn't your quarterback doing it last night.
But I think Davonte Adams gives them some juice. They
got some Drake Mays coming up, some Anthony Richardson, some
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very winnable games. I do not think the season is
lost for the Jets. I'll get into the game and
the officiating and the Bills in a second, But Davonte
Adams is coming to town. I don't know if he means.
I thought the Jets were a nine win team after
last night, before they got Davonte Adams with a run game.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Their defense isn't is good now because they lost their
defensive coach, they fired him. And the offense is better
now because Aaron's buddy has been demoted. So last night
proving coaching matters. We will see if Davonte Adams matters.
But I think the Jets are going to get to
nine wins with or without Davonte. So the Cowboys were
the embarrassment of not only the league, but of Jerry Jones.
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He's owned the franchise since nineteen eighty nine. They were ambushed,
crushed by Detroit. Biggest game on national TV yesterday and
or the day before on Sunday, and it was the
worst loss for Jerry Jones in his career at home.
And that's saying something because the first year he owned
the team, they went one in fifteen. So Jerry Jones,
a very proud man, was embarrassed after the game. And
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this morning he showed up on Dallas Radio one oh
five point three the fan in Dallas, and I could
play about twenty minutes of this stuff. I'll give you
about thirty seconds. It got very contentious with the hosts.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add,
didn't spend, and don't add and don't spend and are
not aggressive enough. Oh I remember those criticisms very well. Okay,
so what are they playing out to be accurate? What's
your point? What's your point? Now? If you think I'm
interested in on a phone call with you over a
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radio and sitting here and throwing all the good at
with the dishwater, you have got to be smoking something
over there this morning. This is not your job. Your
job is to let me go over all the reasons
that I did something and I'm sorry that I did it.
That's not your job.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Well my job is that ask my.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Job or I'll get another I'll get somebody else to
ask these questions. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So it's a very proud and embarrassed man with a
lot of ego and vanity. But frankly, Jerry Jones has
gotten in the way of Jerry Jones say this out loud,
an eighty two year old owner slash GM slash spokesperson.
It sound like it's gonna be elite. And here's the thing.
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Cowboy's been fooling a lot of media and a lot
of fans for the last two to three years because
the NFC has been down the last tour or three years.
But now Green Bay's young players are more mature, and
Detroit's kind of young players are good, and Minnesota is
a surprise, and Washington's got a star quarterback now, and
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Chicago's got a star quarterback now, and the NFC is
looking like the AFC when Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and
Mahomes kind of broke into the AFC all of a sudden,
you're looking around, going, uh, it's not the same neighborhood. Now,
NFC's good. NFC's got five of the top ten teams,
maybe the six of the top ten teams in the league.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In the last couple of years, the NFC's been down,
quarterbacks got old, Aaron Rodgers goes to the next conference.
It was down, and DAK has made a living twenty
four and four. I think it is against the Giants
in Washington. Well, the Giants aren't a push over. Now,
Washington's got the next Lamar Jackson. So they've been fooling
people with these regular season twelve win campaigns and DAK
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beating up on all the non playoff teams. Those days
are over. NFC now is stacked San Francisco's good, Green
Bay's good, Minnesota good, Detroit good, Chicago good, Atlanta good,
Tampa Bay good. Philadelphia could be good if they had
the right coach. So, you know, until Jarah realizes Jarah
is the problem, nothing's gonna change here. NFL GM is
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not a part time gig.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Nflgms you get like two weeks vacation. There's no yacht
time like. It is a sixty hour a week job.
And by the way, some of that bleeds into the offseason.
Seventy hours a week if you're talking about like draft week,
free agency week. Can't have forty eight businesses. So Jerry
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got Jimmy Johnson out of there, and they don't want
to hire a tier one coach and they don't want
to high. I are a Tier one GM, and so
I don't have any tears or empathy for Jerry Jones.
You created this mess. Go ahead and fire the radio hosts.
I mean that's not the answer. Fire and radio hosts
is not the answer. The answer is get out of
your own way. The really smart rich guys understand sometimes
(10:19):
they don't know everything. They shouldn't be a spokesperson, a GM,
an owner, a part time coach. That's not what he
should be doing. So yeah, I mean that interview got
very contentious in what last night was a game and
everybody's blaming the officiating today and it was not one
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of the great officiated games. But I will say this,
in the standalone games Monday night Sunday night, I have
found through the years that the officials and the league
knows everybody's watching, the whole league is watching, and they
make a point of being fairly strident on things. They
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want to send messages like do not lean in your
shoulder to a quarterback, do not pile on. So there
were a couple of quarterback late hit, unnecessary roughness stuff
that I thought were nonsense. One against the Bills, one
against the Jets. I didn't like either of them. The
league in these standalone games. They do this in the
preseason sometimes where they want to send messages to the
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coaching staffs and players, they overcall things. Now I didn't
think those should have been called last night. They go
either way calls, But I do think in standalone games
I have seen this for years. They know every coach
and every defensive coordinator and every defensive lineman is watching
you pile on to that quarterback, hit him a half
second late. They are throwing a flag because every coach
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watched that last night goes into the meeting today with
his players and he shows you those clips and says,
don't do that. So the league has always done that
a little bit, in my opinion, in big TV standalone games.
All right, some thoughts on the game last night. A
Nick Sirianni's apologizing the Jets, through a trade third round
pick conditional, have acquired Davonte Adams. So I have this
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team at nine wins, just missing the playoffs, but in
it till week seventeen eighteen. I don't think Davonte Adams
necessarily change anything. I don't think he is what he
was two three years ago. But I will say again,
I think it adds juice. It makes Aaron happy, and
that's Aaron gets dark really quick. I mean, he goes
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dark really fast, and I think this will lift him up.
It'll be positive. The schedule to me is weak outside
of the Houston game over the next six games, so
not all is lost in New York. Jmack maybe down today.
That's okay, Jamack maybe down today. But I do think
and I said this this morning. I had written some
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notes down for the show that were very positive before
the Davonte Adams move. So it's going to take him
a couple of games to get ram up. You know,
you're not gonna walk in this Sunday and dominate the league.
But I do think it's an emotional move, not just
a personnel move that I think when you're two and four,
locker room split. You know, Spio, they always used to
joke about this in baseball. You got twenty five guys,
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you want ten. You got to keep the five that
are undecided from the ten that hate you and the
ten that love you. In a baseball locker room, when
you go into a losing streak, and in the NFL
you go two and five, you're not making the playoffs.
You go two and four, you get eleven percent chance.
The key is do you feel good about your opportunities?
And I think Davante makes you go, hey, we got
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Garrett Wilson, we've got Davonte Frize Hall now running Aaron Rodgers.
I think it lifts the room up.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well, we'll see about the hamstring injury, you know, I mean,
it's been two weeks hopefully the hamstring's fine. But Colin,
I'm very surprised that you're giving Aaron Rodgers something of
a pass this morning. Two weeks ago in London, he
was terrible. Okay, six point game, You get the ball.
This is why you add Aaron Rodgers in the offseason
to go win these games.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He throws an interception targeting Mike Woods.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Last week he was terrible last night.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Gets the ball. Forget the penalties. The Miskicks gets the
ball three minutes left at home. Hey, this is while
we got a superstar quarterback. Drive the field, get us
the points, get us the win. He throws an interception
targeting Mike Williams. So last week Rogers covered it up
by getting Solid fired. I don't care what anybody says.
We know Rogers was involved in that. So how do
you cover up another Rogers failure? Go get DeVante Adams.
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You know he talked to the owner last night. For
sure he had to have Colin. This Aaron Rodgers experiment
is going south very okay. I mean people want to
defend him, but no, no, I'm back to matree Wh's
he failed.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I actually think if you if the Jets were a stock,
they are so beaten up today they're a bye. The
Jets are a bye today. Okay, a total buff fine.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
They should also be four and two, maybe five and one.
That Broncos game again, Rodgers couldn't drive the field.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
It was raining. The kicker missed.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Fine, but that Nat Hackett was the coordinator. He's out. Now.
If you watched last night, that was like a real
modern NFL offense with motion and stuff, and they ran
the ball. The offense can be fine.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well the blitz Buffalo barely blitz.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
You did realize you did see when they did blitz
they sacked him three times. Jets cannot handle the blitz Vikings.
Broncos murdered the Jets with the blitz last night. A
lot of four man rush Rogers. Just okay, I can
handle this.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
You sound a little bit like a fan that's descrumbed.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Pittsburgh Steelers you want to see you think they're blitzing
Heighsmith is coming back about her bib.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
One of my favorite bets of the week, the Jets
with Davante against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Are you sure Davante's playing?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, he'll play, He'll be there.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The optimist.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
He'll be red zone stuff, but he'll play. Okay. We
got a lot to discuss here. Devonte Adams now a Jet.
Have I ever been this positive? I mean, what a
joyful human being. I just out there sprinkles on the cupcakes.
It's just everything's good today.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
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Speaker 1 (16:01):
All Right, welcome back, Bill's Beat the Jets twenty three
twenty DeVante Adams has been traded to the Jets. I
just talked about that. We'll talk about that more later
in forty minutes from now. My Herd hierarchy, I think
it's the strongest we've had. There's some real teams here
this weekend. The best quarterback, starting with last Thursday brought
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pretty over Gino and last night Josh over Aaron. The
best quarterback won every single game this weekend. That's what
we said going into this week. We said there's going
to be sort of a separation between the haves and
have nots. The bad teams now know they're bad. Guys
start bailing in locker rooms. Although I don't think the
two and four Jets will I think they're going to
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be viable. But the best quarterback won every game this weekend.
So if I want to go back to this game,
take out the hail Mary. You know, any star quarterback
gets a few of those in his career, even Aaron,
the all time leaders. You know, every five or six years,
he has a Hail Mary. Those are about ninety percent
luck and breaks. Take that game out. There were four
huge plays late in this game, and the Bills made
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all of them. The first play was late late late
third quarter, the Bills secondary tied at twenty. Aaron hits
Garrett Wilson for the go ahead touchdown and Taylor Rap,
a very physical often hurt because he's so physical safety
from Washington, bang knocks the ball out. Big time play,
forces a field goal, and the Jets mith it. That
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was a touchdown. Twenty seven to twenty. Now it's s
till twenty twenty. Now we go second, big play, Jets driving.
It is a big second and sixteen. This would have
been a first down and Taylor Rap again blows the
play up. Huge huge play that forces on this play
the interception by Tarron Johnson that maybe the closest thing
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to Ed Reed that I've seen in years. A beautiful
interception that sets up the fourth play. I'll watch the
interception again. You can say that's the Taylor play. Then
there is the interception. The fourth play, when the Bills
get the ball back on a third and four, Josh
Allen appears to call his own number and gets the
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first down. So Josh Allen, Taran Johnson, two Taylor raps.
In the last half hour of real time to forty minutes,
there were four huge plays, and the Buffalo Bills, like
the Kansas City Chiefs the Ravens in these big games,
made all of them. Taylor Rap, Tarn Johnson, Josh Allen.
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Those are game changing plays. Here is Josh Allen.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
After fighting through adversity, getting in a half time regrouping, saying,
let's just control, you know, one play at a time.
You know, we didn't score as any points in that
second half as I as I'd like, but found a way.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Okay, and again you can blame the officials, but Denver,
Aaron Rodgers was going for the lead and the win,
missed the field goal. Minnesota going for the win, Aaron
bad Pick. Buffalo wide receiver slips ball appears to be underthrown,
great play by the defender. You can point fingers all
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you want. Opportunities there three straight weeks. So there were
four crucial plays in that. And that's what Kansas City does.
You hang around with Kansas City and all of a sudden,
it's a big play by Chris Jones, a great play
by somebody on the corner, and Mahomes has a run
to pick up a first down. That is a Chiefs game.
So and Josh Allen, I mean, that kid, that kid
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is just I mean, we are so lucky right now.
Between Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen, these guys are
all time. Mahomes the best I've ever seen, Lamar is
the best running quarterback I've ever seen, and Josh maybe
the best pure size arm and talent and running I've
ever seen together. So you got to make plays in
these big games. And against Denver, Minnesota and Buffalo, the
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New York Jets didn't, And last night the Bills did.
J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
No, no, no, this is the headline news.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Well, if the DeVante Adams breaking news wasn't enough, something's
going on in Pittsburgh right now.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Colin.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Tom Pelasarro is.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Reporting the Steelers plan to give Russell Wilson first team
reps in practice this week, with Mike Tomlin adding that
Russ is in consideration to start Week seven against the
New York Jets. Colin, this is a bit of a
shocking development. We knew Russ was gonna be in the mix,
but like Pittsburgh's for it too.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
This is a huge.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Game against the Jets in the conference, and you're gonna
maybe dump Fields.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm gonna give the job. I'm gonna give the Steelers credit.
So they are a defensive culture. Kenny Peckett got him
to the playoffs. They moved off him. They have a
four and two record, just win are they gonna move
off him? So that I gotta give Mike Tomlin credit.
He's not tone deaf. He moved off quarterbacks. But with
winning records getting me into the play winning games, a
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lot of coaches won't do that. Pete Carroll's stuck with
Gino Smith. He's good enough. What Mike Tomlin's saying with
Kenny Pickett, he's not good enough. What he's saying with
Justin Fields. We can do better. And I will tell
you what It tells me is he is leaning on
Arthur Smith a little bit here, and Arthur's saying, I mean,
Mike maybe saying, hey, we gotta be winning these games,
like we handed Dallas a win, and Arthur's probably saying privately,
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I'm doing all we can do here.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Wow, So you're kind of endorsing.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's not even an endorsement, it's an acknowledgement of what
the Steelers. I wasn't sure they were capable of this.
Yesterday I did a rant on there four and two.
We got our guys would agree. It's not a sustainable
method to win in the NFL at big time.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I'll tell you right now, if you're the New York
Jets defense, you'd rather see Russell Wilson, the Justin Fields.
Justin Fields can break the pocket it scramble for fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Did you notice without Robert Solo, the Jets defense was.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
A little leaky last night against the run.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He left the best coach in.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
The organizations ran all over them. I mean, listen, bottom
line is like, bring on Russell Wilson. I think that's
good news for the Jets. My guess is, and I'm
seeing their favorite here by one and a half. I
think the Jets are the probably the side here if
Russell Wilson starts. I'm not doubting him, but I'm just not.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
There are three games this week I love Rams off
of bye, Jets against the Steelers, and Minnesota off of
by against Detroit. Those are lock him in right now.
I already told you I locked in the Rams number
yesterday at five. Now with Devonte Adams out, that number
will go up.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, we don't know if he's gonna play yet, but
I do need to ask what does this potentially do
to the locker room? Who we know likes Justin Fields
and Russ has a bit of a recent history.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
This is arisky move by tomlin Man. He usually has
a good feel for his team. He's one of the
great coaches in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But Colin, this feels, Oh boy, I gotta tell you
something makes you want to watch that Steeler game.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well, you're gonna watch Steelers two.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it anyway. But it's
it's interesting. I mean, it is very hard to bench
a very liked player off a win when you have
a winning record. It's like firing Sala when you know,
if you win the next game, you're in first place
over Buffalo four years in a row, four years in succession.
I think they've won the AFC East, Like, what are
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you doing? Sala wins this game. I think last night
with Sala they would have won the game if he
would have been allowed to demote Nat Hackett, which apparently
got him fired. I think Sala's the best coach they have.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'm stunt stunned at this time. One stuff all right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Next up colin Sunday on Fox, big Super Bowl rematch,
Niners hosting the Chief Chiefs in America's Game of the
Week case beat Stanford in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Excuse me?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Game win?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
He touchdown in overtime. Trent Williams is downplaying the revenge angle.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Hmm.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
It's another game. I mean, not like we can get
payback for Lutheran an a super Bowl. That ship is sale.
So it's another game. We got to come out and
try to play complimentary football. We gotta obviously, we know
what type of team that is one of the best
teams in the league. You know, all star quarterback, you know,
great coach. So it's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Can you imagine he moves out to the left and
you're a cornerback and here comes Trent Williams to block you.
That guy is a house. I think it's more than
just that. I think the game feels it feels big.
It's a big stage with two great teams. I think
the Niners are gonna win that game. I think Kansas
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City's been playing with fire for too long. I think
at some point you can't play these close games time
after time after time.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
The Chiefs start coming off the buy right.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Reid has some time to cook up some stuff. Get
Kareem Hunt on the on the right page and.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Juju Smith Schuster.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
They still don't have Rashi Rice Well.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Not getting him anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Like I did, just look up some stats because I'm
a fantasy nerd. You want to guess who the worst
team is in the league defending tight ends so far
this year?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, their linebacker stink, So this could be a
big George Kittle game. And we know over the middle
of the field Shanahans offense loves to eat, So you're
probably right.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's just I don't the last five times I've bet
Kansas City against them, I've lost and it's been over
like four years. Yeah, I don't bet the Chiefs very much.
I don't mess with them. I just don't. Well yeah,
I mean I just if you watch who I bet,
I find three or four or five teams in the
league that I feel, you know, I tend to find
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really good quarterback play. Last week I bet all the
best quarterbacks. In fact, I thought the Bills would win
last night. I predicted, but I took the Jets and
the points. The best quarterback won every game this week.
Every Now that's not going to continue on because Rock
Purty is also better than a lot of the bad
quarterbacks that lost. But it's you get you about week five,
six seven, everybody starts figuring out we've all got film
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on everybody, and the bad teams start realizing you start losing, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Hey, wonder if some teams are gonna start to pack
it in. You know has already start thinking about the offseason.
Final story, Colin is the Major League Baseball Playoffs.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
A good day to be a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Mets beat the Dodgers, Lindor hit a leadoff homer and
Mark Vientos hit a grand slam. Yep, wasn't a great
night for the Yankees initially, and then boom, Carlos rode
on with the gem and Stanton.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
And Soto both homeward.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yankees win Game one.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I watched the Mets game, and let's be honest about that.
The Dodgers went with another bullpen night or afternoon where
they pitched bullpen guys. They worked against the Padres. The
Mets had their number two starter up there. It was
not going to work against the Mets. That game was
over in like the third inning, So uh yeah, I
mean it's it's I think the Yankees are gonna end
up in the World Series. I think I think the
Dodgers Mets. I think it's better for baseball if the Dodgers,
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and I think the Dodgers will win this series. But
I think it's really, really a good series, and I
think they beat Philadelphi. Philadelphia doesn't have six Hall of
Famers on it. If the Dodgers had a healthy staff,
I think would fly through this series. But I do think,
you know, you just you got to cross your fingers
on the health of the remaining pictures you have if
you're the Dodgers, and I'm going to take them deep
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into the series.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Though Yankees Dodgers would probably be the most anticipated world series.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
There was a Subway series years ago that everybody in
the media thought would be a big hit, and at
the time it was the lowest rated world series. It's
too much, it's too regional.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well you have to go back to like what the
Cubs of the World Series or the Red Side, Like,
it's been a while since you've had a marquee matchup
like this, right, Well, the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yankees haven't won yet, I don't. Yeah, they're fine. Oh,
I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, the Dodgers I'm a little worried about.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You know, it's just so funny in New York is
so hard on their coaches and their managers. The truth is,
Aaron Boone's gonna end up in a World Series. Probably
Jay Bowl's excellent for the Giants. Uh, Tom Thibodeau, say
what you want. That team. Nobody played harder than the Knicks.
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Very quickly, New York sports teams have gone from unwatchable
and embarrassing to kind of good and kind of interesting.
My take on the Jets last night was, Oh, they
ran motion. It was like a modern off. I was like, oh,
this is a real offense if the defense is eighty
percent of what it was based on what I saw
last night. I had seventy three percent pre stat motion
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the previous week with hack of the twenty five.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, that's like, that's like high school. One of the
key plays you left off made by Taylor Rap. When
Breist Hall broke that run down the sideline, I thought
he was gone, I'm errupting. The family's like yeah, finally,
and Taylor Rap comes out of nowhere and took the
perfect angle and stopped him and guess what, Jets ended
up with no points there.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's like Taylor Rapp is a very kind of a
John Lynch. Maybe not best in coverage, but an incredibly
physical play. That's why he's banged up all the time.
He sacrifices his body on hits. And those were two
huge plays by him in this late third early form.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And you want to mention Josh Allen being so smart,
how about this? He did not throw at Sauce Gardner
pretty much all night, just said I'm not one of
my tempting faith I'm not going to go there. You know.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Smart play game by Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
He was good. It was. First of all, it was
a wildly entertaining game. You can complain about the officials,
but they added drama.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It was it was good bad football right, miss field goals,
this extra points penalties.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
You also get. You get into the northeast, Chicago East.
It's October, it gets windy and cold, and you're gonna
at special teams. Is going to be a circus. J
Mack with a news.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That heard hierarchy I have in thirty minutes. There are
some there are some teams that have pulled away. I
don't even have. I didn't leave anybody out. Very good
that comes up.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
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and Noone Easter not a em Pacific one.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's Game three of the NLCS, with the series tied
at one. Game of He's Otani and the Dodgers look
to fight back while Lindor in the Medicine aimed to
take control. Coverage begins at seven pm Eastern four pm
Pacific tomorrow on f This one.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I told you we didn't love. In fact, we
thought it was ridiculous. Nick Seriani, Eagles coach who's done
this before, but knowing he's on the hot seat on
a by so he heard the radio people and the
media people Clawburne all week in Philadelphia at home, starts
haunting and jousting with the fans as they play Cleveland. Embarrassing.
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I had said yesterday he's going to get called into
the office Jeffrey Lourie, Howie Roseman. That is not going
to fly with the Eagles organization. That is not his job.
He doesn't even know what his role is. I mean,
security guy big Dom knows what his role is. This
guy apparently doesn't. And here he apologized for this move.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday,
and I'm sorry and disappointed an on how my energy
was directed at the end of the game. And you know,
my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating right
and celebrating with our guys.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I wanted to bring energy. Okay, we're gonna do a
new segment called stadium DJ or head coach who said it,
I want to bring new big energy. What are you
doing this? We got a breakup coming. We got a
breakup coming, and right before breakups. One of the people
in the relationship starts acting weird, shave the head, jousting
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with fans, bring your kids to the podium, and years
later you look at it and you're kind of embarrassed.
Here's the reality of this team. He's an offensive coach.
Now think about this. The Lions, the Chargers, and the
Titans all had offensive coaches, and we're all on a buy.
They all scored touchdowns and took a lead in the
first quarter. That's what offensive coaches doing a buy. Andy
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Reid McVeigh this week on a buy facing the Raiders,
they'll have a very nice first quarter. The Eagles in
a bye with a loaded stack roster with their two
star receivers back first two drives Jalen Hurts oh for five,
two punts against Cleveland, a team that's quit so the
last twenty years, teams that haven't scored in the first
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quarter through five games. Philadelphia is the only team in
the league one has made the playoffs, the Jets twenty
years ago, eighteen years ago. So that's the reality offensive
coaches off of by almost Owah's early in the game,
they put in some tricks. You see what Andy Reid
does off of Bye McVeigh Shanahan. It's just not good enough.
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This thing ain't working. So the big story today is
that Devonte Adams has been acquired. Ian Rappaport broke the story.
DeVante Adams Raiders, who, let's be honest, Raiders want to
finish with a number one pick, and I go get
a shaduor Sanders, go go get a quarterback. Shador to
me separated from the rest of college football, I thought
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he had a great weekend against a good team. I
don't know just Davonte Adams make you great. Well, they
have an interim coach, So your interim coach is not
going to go toe to toe in the playoffs with
John Harbaugh Andy Reid and outduele them. So it takes
I think interim coaches take you out of the Super
Bowl conversation in the better conference. The other thing to
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consider here with Aaron Rodgers, he's getting beat up, bad knee,
bad ankle. So I do think that Davonte Adams makes
the Jets more interesting. But if you're two and four,
you only have eleven percent chance to make the playoffs.
I think the Jets are better than eleven percent chance
to get there, mostly because New England's the worst team
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in the league and two is not playing for Miami.
So if this was if the Jets were in you know,
the NFC North. Season's over. The season's over, there are divisions,
the season's over. I think the Jets Miami. I mean,
if two is hurt again, they may just move off
him and swallow that contract. So and New England, we
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all know the story here. They're drafting one or two
or three. I predicted nine to eight. I will say this,
I said this this morning. So the Jets are two
and four. I'll give you the seven games. I think
the Jets are going to win. I'll give you the
schedule right now. I think they're gonna beat Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh.
That's gonna be a win. I think they're gonna beat
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New England at New England for obvious reasons. Houston is
a go either way game c J. Stroud, If Joe
Mixon plays, I would take Houston. I also think Arizona
there is hit or miss. Arizona can be Buffalo or
they can be Carolina. They're all over the map. I
think they beat the Colts at home. They get a
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buy and host the Seahawks. That's a win. I think
they lose at Miami but beat them in in Week eighteen.
I also think they beat Carolina and probably beat the
Rams they host. I don't think they're winning at Buffalo,
so to me, and I don't think this. I don't
think I'm being biased four against. I'm saying they're not
going to beat Houston. Arizona scares me. At Miami and
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a Buffalo are tough. But I'll give you a win
over McVeigh. I'll give you a win over Mike Tomlin
and the Steelers. I think they're going to end up
being a nine and eight team. And I think that
in that AFC because we don't know what we thought
Cincinnati was going to be good, right, and that's not
working out. And after Houston, who in the AFC South's
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getting to the playoffs. So Whereas in the NFC, every
single team in the NFC North is playoff viable today,
in the AFC, what you have is dominant teams or
favorites winning their division. The wild card nine to ten
may get you in. In the AFC. Tous her Miami's
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Miami's Rocky A Jets have a much easier schedule than
Miami down the stretch that we think the Chargers could
get to ten to eleven wins. But boy, now they
got both their wide receivers banged up. They just got
their tackles back from being banged up. Chargers have struggled
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last several years just keeping people healthy. So I think
the wild card I think the teams that win the
divisions in the AFC, Buffalo, Houston, Kansas City, I think
those teams and Baltimore, I think those were great teams.
I think nine may get you to the wild card,
probably ten, but maybe nine. I would not count the
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Jets out here. Now in the NFC, the teams that
win the division aren't as good as the AFC. Maybe
at Philadelphia in Atlanta, But in the NFC, the wild
card teams are exceptional. I mean, Green Band, Detroit could
be wild card teams. The Niners could be a wildcard team.
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I mean Baker Mayfield, would you want to play them?
How about Washington went to Totoe with the Ravens this week?
Or Philadelphia? So I think if the Jets, you know,
we're in the NFC and we're battling for a wildcard spot,
forget it. The NFC North may get three teams in.
They may get three teams in, so then you only
got one one wild card spot left. But in the AFC,
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I think the Jets can go toe to toe. Not
only would the Buffalo Bills, who will win the division,
but you could make an argument right now the Jets
are the best even at two and four, the best
wild card team potentially in the AFC. I know that's
kind of confusing, but I feel like the AFC is
top heavy but a little overrated. After that, I think
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the NFC's a little top light, but really deep, really
really deep. Have If Atlanta or Tampa do not get
into the playoffs, those are good teams. Those are I mean,
Tampa and Atlanta can go toe to toe with virtually
anybody in this league, including Kansas City. May not win,
but they can score points on anybody. So there you go,
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jam Mac. I cannot believe how positive I have been today.
It's a breath of fresh air in America, which is
very divisive. I'm very positive.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Today just in general in life about the Jets. I mean, listen,
this Jet Steelers game is enormous. This is a huge
swing game with the Steelers four and two and the
Jets two and four.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Pittsburgh is like a wildcard contender, even though we don't
think they're good.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
The Jets lose this game, now they don't have the
tiebreaker with Pittsburgh and they're three back in the wildcard.
On you can just forget the season. You're right, this
is the season for the Jets.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Sunday.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah, hopefully against Russell Wilson because I would much rather
face him than did Well.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I would slow down on that. Russell is also elusive,
and I think makes fewer mistakes than Justin Field's.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I feels has it made a ton of mistakes. He
just wasn't accurate, if that makes any sense. Against a
Regah Well, he's not a great pocket quarterback. He's a
great kid and a great athlete. And it's what's interesting,
he has a great arm.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know a lot of these guys you watch and
you're like, they just don't have the ability to stick it.
Like Justin's got so many things, you like, relatable, coachable, big,
big arm movement, but like a Zach Wilson, we just
don't know. Some guys don't see the field quickly. Then
you see a CJ. Stroud second game of the NFL.
You're like, he's like a veteran who's been in the
league ten years.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
By the way, one last thing on the Jets.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
You think Sala's sitting at home being like, damn Rogers,
you got me fired and then you brought on your
your superstar.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You know, I think I think Sla is saying now,
the defense was awfully leaky last night. Defense was afully
leaky last night. Sure wasn't the week before against the
better offense.
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