October 16, 2024 • 56 mins
Richard Sherman reacts to the Las Vegas Raiders trading star wideout Davante Adams to the New York Jets, reuniting Adams with his former Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Richard breaks down the trade and criticizes Jets owner Woody Johnson for saying he’s focused on building a culture after firing head coach Robert Saleh. Richard also reacts to the news that the Pittsburgh Steelers plan to start Russell Wilson this Sunday night against the Jets.
After, Richard Sherman interviews Tyler Lockett, his former Seattle Seahawks teammate and the longest-tenured player on Seattle's current roster. Tyler talks to Sherm about what he told the Seahawks locker room after Seattle capped off a three-game skid with their Week 6 loss to the San Francisco 49ers, their upcoming matchup with Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons, social media's reaction to him making a business decision in the fourth quarter of Seattle's loss to the New York Giants, and what Geno Smith and the rest of the Seahawks need to do to turn their 2024 NFL season around. Also, Richard quizzes Tyler on his ranking among the active leaders for career receiving touchdowns, gives advice on how to raise athletes in the modern NIL landscape, and answers whether or not he'd ever become an NFL coach.
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
All right, man, ex you go ahead. Welcome back to
the Richard Sherman Podcast. Present it to you by our
sponsors and friends over at Brightly, and it's time for
breaking news. Davonte Adams was traded to the New York Jets.
Obviously things went on yesterday. They lost that game. They
had a great chance to win that game. A miscommunication
(02:11):
between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Williams led to an interception
that closed out that game. Now he got his boy back.
Davonte Adams spent a number of years as one of
the best tandems to ever play the International Football League.
They had ridiculous chemistry. As somebody who played against him,
it's hard to understand the mental connection that they had.
(02:33):
Sometimes it'd just be a look and they both understood
what the play was, whether it's back shoulder, a slant,
whatever the case may be. I think this is a
great move for the Jets. It'll boost this offense and
give them a chance. I think if they had him
in this game against the Buffalo Bills, that would have
been a win. I don't think he's going to Mike
Williams in those situations. He did either going to Garrett
Wilson or Davonte Adams in those situations, and that'll be
(02:56):
the case. I think this takes a lot of pressure
off Davante, I mean, off of Garrett Wilson and gives
him a veteran presence, a guy who he's trying to emulate,
who's now right there in the building. But one thing
I did not like Woody Johnson. That's enough. That's enough.
Now you're saying you gotta go with your instinct, and
(03:16):
you gotta make a decision to build a culture. What
do you think Robert Sala was doing. He built this
culture over three years, a good culture, good team, good staff,
guys that like each other, guys that play hard. Now
you're building a culture after firing him in the middle
of the season. That and they lose a game, and
now you're making another instinctual knee jerk reaction. This should
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have happened before. This should have happened at the beginning
when these conversations. Devonte Adams was available. This should have
been the trade immediately, But instance you waited to lose
another game. Now you're behind the eight ball. Hopefully this
gets the team back on track. But I just don't
like him saying that. I don't like him saying that
after what he's already done. You injected turmoil into this team,
(04:02):
and now you're talking about building culture. Like, stop it,
stop it. But this is a great move. They got
him for a conditional third round pick, which I thought
would happen. It becomes a second round pick if he's
an All Pro or the Jets make the AFC Championship game,
which possibly could happen. But this late in the season,
it's hard to be an All Pro. But he hasn't
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played in three games. I mean, there's certain things that
are going in factor. Even if he goes off with Aaron.
Other receivers are playing well. Nico Collins, who's hurt right now,
Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. Those guys always have a case.
I'm n Ross Saint Brown. It's guys that have a
case to make first team All Pro this year. Tyreek
Kill will always be around even though it's quarterback's not there.
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You know, if Tua Tongue Bailla comes back, you know
Tyreek Hill will factor into that as well. But I
think this is a great move for the Jets. I
think this is a right move. This is all in.
This is what Jerry Jones was talking about with the
Dallas Cowboys, except it's really all in. I would have
felt more all in if you didn't fire the head
coach though, But sorry to keep harping on that, but
(05:04):
that's where the fly in the soup for me is
you don't fire the head coach and then say make
the right decisions, like you changed the offensive coordinators, got
it right decision. You trade for Davonte Adams, the right decision,
but you fire the head coach unnecessarily not the right decision.
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So I'm very happy with this decision for Aaron. For Davante,
he gets to play football again. I'm sure he's going
to be available because he was injured. We'll see how
injured he is this week. I think he'll be available
to play for the New York Jets. He'll be out there.
I don't know if he'll wear seventeen. I don't know
who has it right now. I have to study that
and look at it, but more than likely he's going
to pay somebody to get seventeen. But in season, I
(05:46):
think it's kind of weird. We'll see if they're able
to make that happen. But good for DeVante Adams. We'll
try to have him on the pod to talk about this.
Good for Aaron. If you love something, you let it go,
and if it comes back to you, then it was
really yours. And that's what happened right now. Aaron Rodgers
let Davonte Adams go. He went to seek better pastures,
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to seek freedom, to see if the grass was greener,
and Aaron was still there when he returned. And he's
come back, and I think this is going to be
again a great relationship, a great thing for the New
York Jets, and I'm looking forward to it. Something that
has me scratching my head a little bit right now
is Pittsburgh. Right now. Rumor Ian Rapperport is saying Russell
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Wilson's taking the first team reps this week at practice,
which puts him in line to start this week for
the Pittsburgh Steelers against guess who, the New York Jets.
I'd be fine with this. If it was sooner, I
would have been fined. I know he was getting healthy
and it was doing. But six games into the season
now seven this will be the seventh game of the season.
It's just so much going on, you know, for ruts.
(06:58):
But I believe in Tomlin. I trust to Tomlin is
a great coach and better coach than I could ever
imagine and hope to be, so I have no right
to question his decision making. I think, you know, he's
making it based on things he saw in film, things
he saw in practice, the tape, the game tape, what
he saw from justin fields. Maybe he wants to see more.
(07:18):
Maybe he thinks Russell Wilson could get more out of
this offense than justin fields. Maybe he's not seeing some
of these receivers and he's inaccurate in certain passes, but
this is the decision that he's making. My concern with
it is the rust factor. The rust not Russ. The
rust factor that Russell hasn't played a game this season,
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so getting up to game speed is something that's real.
It's significant, Like you have to it's going to take
him a second to get back to the speed of
the game, to go through his reads. And you see
it in the first few weeks of the season, guys
knocking off Russ. You saw from Aaron Rodgers, you saw
it from a number of young quarterbacks. You know, obviously
he's a veteran quarterback, but just taking real game reps,
taking hits, being able to take the hits, being able
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to be quick and decisive with the ball. And this
is a desperate team. They're about to be playing in
the New York Jets, a team that's that's doing everything
they can to try to get in this playoff hunt.
And they're a foreign two team sitting pretty comfortably. So
maybe that's why Mike Tomlin felt like he has a
little bit of a cushion, and you know he can,
he can make these decisions. I think he feels like, hey,
(08:20):
if it doesn't go great, he can go back to
Justin Fields. But it's it's the decision that he's making
and we'll just wait and see. We'll wait and see.
It may go great. They may win the next six
to seven straight. Russell may play out of this world,
out of his mind and this team. But I think offensively,
I thought Pittsburgh would have been a good landing spot
for Devontae Adams because they need another receiver outside of
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George Pickens. They just don't have another dynamic receiver. They
lost Deontay Johnson when they traded away Deontay Johnson, and
I thought they'd pick up somebody in a draft or
trade for somebody, and they didn't. And I thought they
they you know, rumor has it that they were in
on the Devonte Adams and it didn't fall through. He
went back with Aaron And so that's the part that
(09:04):
concerns me about this offense because you may feel like, hey,
Justin Fields isn't getting the left out of George Pickens,
but that's their only weapon. You still got fire move.
But I just don't see this being a drastic change
in terms of production for this offense, and maybe it is.
I could be wrong, but I thought Justin brought an
element of scrambling and rushing and put the defense on
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their heels at times and was able to do certain
things and evade these sacks with his legs. That made
him a different quarterback than Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson may
make better decisions with the football Makesten plays and have
more chunk plays, and that may be what Mike Tomlin
and the Pittsburgh Steelers are valuing from him. But we
get to see in a couple of days how this
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plays out. But I thought that was an interesting, interesting
update on the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's been this week's rightling
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Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. I got one
of my favorite guests on with me, Tyler Locking at
the Seattle Seahawks. Appreciate you joining me, Man.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No problem, big bro, appreciate you for having me so
talk to.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Me about life. You know you're married now? Is it kids?
How kid?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Kids or a kid?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You gotta be one on the way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Hey so so yeah, I ended up getting married last
year Man July fifteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Four and appreciate the invite.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Hey, man, I'm sorry, bro, she put a limitation on me.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Man, and I wanted everybody to go because I'm like
this how you lose friends because everybody cares about this moment, right,
But man, it was actually really cool. I think, like
one of the most awkward things for me is walking
down the aisle and everybody looking at you. You know,
it's way different from football. It's like football, I'm kind
of like in a run where I could play. I
(11:57):
know what I'm doing, but walking down the like people
think you about to cry, like you know me, I'm
just laughing and having fun the whole time. But I
mean we're you know, we're working on, you know, being
able to have kids and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But right now we got two golden DOODLESO.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Those might be worse than kids.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh they are hunters.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You keep them outside or what they're inside dog.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Brou Yeah, we keep them inside, man, but they be
tearing up shoes and socks and you know, granted they're
like ten months old right now, but I mean, right
now they're a handful.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Bet so, so you're prepping yourself mentally, You're prepping your
patience because that's what it's gonna take. When you get kids,
you're gonna see them break stuff, and instead of being
you're gonna have to just be like, ah, nah, you
don't know no better. And then you're gonna look up
and they twelve, and you're gonna be like, I think
you kind of know better, but I think I'm about
(12:52):
to have to say something to you because you didn't
lost your goddag mine. But with the puppies, you're gonna
be like, Okay, it's all right, it's all right, You're
you're okay. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I think the hard part for me bro is just
being able to find that balance of all right, you hurt,
but you're not injured, you know what I mean, Because
it's like at first you like, hey, don't do that, Like,
you know, it's different things I see with my friends
they got kids, and then eventually like, oh they hit
their head on the wall, and you like, you are okay,
you don't have to cry, you know. So for me,
(13:20):
I just get a little nervous because you know, first time,
when you do get a chance to be a parent,
you just want to do everything right and there's no
way of being perfect. But like, you don't want perfect
to drive you through anxiety and all this different type
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What if Well, first off, first off, you're gonna do
a great job, and you're gonna be the opposite of perfect.
You're not gonna get everything right and it's gonna be
perfectly fine. The humans have survived for a long time
not being perfect. And it's just so many The hard
part about today versus what our parents is just so
many outside things that you don't control with your kids,
even once you put them in school and you can
(13:56):
be like, I'll homeschool them. Okay, Well, if they see
the TV, if you let them watch TV at all,
they'll see something. You're like, they're never watched TV all right, Well,
you sitting there thinking you hiding them in the bubble.
Once that bubble pops, it's gonna be even worse. So
you better off just being transparent and like explaining, being
there to explain to them what's going on, then them
see it without you and then put it through their
(14:18):
little minds and then come up with a solution or
or with the understanding of what's going on in front
of them. But it's fun being a parent. And I
think you're gonna do a great job. A lot of
the knicks and stuff is how you respond to it.
So it's like the first time they hit themselves. If
you're sitting there like, oh, then it's gonna be an issue.
(14:38):
But if you like, hey, you all right, get on up,
they're gonna be like, oh okay, yeah, I'm all right.
I don't get up there? Are you good? You ain't better?
And I'll be all right.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So your kids play sports? Yeah, so what are you
doing this day and age with nils and all that
different type of stuff, like you going to the highest
bidder telling them patients.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like, oh, I don't care nothing about it. I'm treating
them like when we were in school, Like it's a
whatever school you feel most comfortable going to, and all
add Hey, the coach that that that you talks to
you and you feel good in that scheme, good in
that environment, a chance to play whatever you want, then
that's where we go. The money, the money ain't gonna
factor in. If the money factoring in, then I didn't
(15:22):
make enough. I didn't I didn't set the president wrong.
But I'm gonna try to get them to just focus
on that the stuff they can control and the stuff
that that that is important outside of money because eventually,
you know, when you let money be the main driving factor,
it's gonna be an issue, you know, because the moment
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you don't perform, or the moment you have a bad game,
then your self consciously like I only pick this place
because of the money, and look look what it got me. Yeah,
but that's just old man wisdom. But how your body feeling,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
It's feeling pretty good. I will say ten days and
with three games is a little rough. Yeah, you know,
just being able to adapt to the body different stuff
like that. But I mean, you know, for me, I'm
learning like your body is basically the thing that makes
everything go. And as you get older, it's like, hey, man,
if you don't run the same, that's the quickest way
(16:17):
out the league. Or if you're not reliable, you know,
like you might've been before, like that's the quickest way
out the league. So you're almost fighting against those, like
those kinds of things that start to change as you
get older, being able to see if you could just
maintain that speed a little bit longer, maintain that quickness
just a little bit longer, so you can continue to
be able to thrive as long as you want.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, you're the most veteran, longest tenured Seahawk on the
team now and now you know how we felt. So
how does it feel being that veteran being the guys,
that guy, being a guy that people look to and
go to for advice and you know, look to for
that kind of role man.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Honestly, Bro, I think it feels great because it kind
of like goes right into the purpose that I feel
like I've been given, like you know, kind of in
this life with God, and I feel like I kind
of get a chance to be a mediator between the coaches,
between the players, and I get the kind of like
brainstorm ideas and give people the benefit of the doubt
(17:17):
to be able to see both sides of different spectrums,
allow people to be able to see the bigger picture.
It's like, you know how we used to tell kids
in college, like, Bro, like I know, coaches on you,
but you got to be able to understand if he
wasn't that's where the real problem lies in hand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But now you get to the league and it's different.
Stuff like you can't talk to people about money, but
you can give advice on how to be able to
make great decisions. Within their wealth or make great decisions
when it comes to buying the house. Hey, you're on
your rookie deal. You don't need to buy three or
four million dollar house, right Like you can be able
to buy maybe a five hundred thousand dollar house or
(17:54):
seven hundred thousand dollar house. And you know, there's different
ways to put you put three percent down then, so
there's different like conversations that I could be able to
have to try to be able to help players, whether
it's on the field, being able to allow them to
see like, hey, man, when you got drafted, this is
your window. Now you gotta be able to take advantage
(18:14):
of that window, because the more that you don't, the
lower and lower that windows starts to becoming. Once you're
finally ready, the opportunities aren't the same.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Great advice, wise words from a decent man.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You remember one of one of the advice that you
gave me.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm giving you a lot, but let's go for it.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So so I remember one time I was like, hey, bro,
there's any advice.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You could give me?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What would you give me?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And you were like, you're gonna lose more more in
practice than you do in the games.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I was like I think he's telling me that I'm
not gonna beat on one on one.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Ever, I was giving you fair and wisdom.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Man, But the games were so much more easier because
I'm like, bro, I got a line up on Sharm
on the right side every day, and then you go
to the left side, and then you got different people
like Shed, and then Shed kind of came into his
own and then I got to run across the middle
with Earl and Cam and so eventually it was like,
all right, you know what, Like now going into these games,
(19:22):
this person ain't gonna press me the way that sharn
impresses me. Like I don't have to be as creative
at the line like I have to do with Sharon, because.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That one release I want with I can't do for
a month.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Exactly. I'm looking for it. I'm looking for you. You
right now among active players, you're ninth in touchdowns overall.
You know the other eight in front of you.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
If I had the guests, man, I would say, Keenan
Allen h tyreek kiel yep, Mike Evans ye.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, what's that three? That's three, Amari Cooper mm hmmm, yep,
Stephane Diggs, Brandon Cooks. Nope, not Brandon Cooks. Dam, I'm
gonna have to stop at.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Five, okay. And the other ones are Davante Adams.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I thought I'm staying him.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yep, I didn't remember the hot There you go.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then who's another person that's been playing for a long.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'll give you this, I'll give you this. Last one
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See app for details. Hey, and I see you be
taking care of yourself. Now. I love that. I think
(21:43):
a lot of young kids are starting to do that too. Now, like, hey,
I got all I could get. I'm gonna keep this
hit off my body. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You know, it's crazy because on the internet, I'm becoming
like one of the most hated but I hate it.
But it's funny because it's just like, bro, like you
also got to understand situations, right, Like I saw a
lot of people were upset we played the Giants. Right,
it's like fourteen seconds left. I'm running like a huge
dig route. I'm like the last option, right, and so
(22:12):
I run it, go on my catch it and then
like you know, cornerback kind of got my foot my
foot a little bit, so I lost footing, but I
caught it and I kind of fell and rolled and
they were like, man, he could have called it and
took it to the house. And I'm like, it's six
seconds left. If I do that and I don't get tackled.
Now the internet is saying, he's selfish. Why would he
(22:33):
do that? We needed points on the board, and so
it's like to me, it's like sometimes you gotta understand
if it's third down, get all you can get. If
it's first or second down, be smart because if you
looking at me just to be able to take a hit,
just to be able to allow you to be happy
with watching the game of football. Then you don't get
to watch me come in on Monday or Tuesday, having
(22:56):
to go to treatment, having to be able to get
my body right, might not be able to practice Wednesday
or Thursday, doing whatever I can just to get back
on the field, just to be able to entertain you
again on Sunday, Like if you don't have to like
have those type of hits on your bodies, why.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Didn't do that? Right? Well, let me let me give
you a little bit of more sage wisdom in this
young age you're in, my young panawan. Do not take
criticism from people you would not take advice from.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I love out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Do not take criticism from people you would not take
advice from. Their opinions do not matter their thought process.
What they're saying is not relevant in your life. These
are These are people that would tell you to oh,
drive with no seatbelt on while they got two seatbelts on.
They tell you don't don't look both ways before crossing
the street and they look three ways, like don't don't
(23:53):
don't take advice from these people and don't take criticism
from them. These ain't the people, so I I You'll
be all right.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think that's the biggest thing for us as players though.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Man, it's like, you know, when you get on social media,
you're not the person that like everybody doesn't know who
you are, right, they just know the football side of you.
So when you get on social media and you obviously
a lot of us we like to see what's going
on with us, what people are saying, but a thousand
great comments are destroyed by one bad thing that you see.
(24:25):
And so like in our day and age, like and
even you know, whenever you were playing too, that sounds
so old like social wow, But it's like the growth
that you see yourself having, Like I be telling myself this, like,
don't let social media stop the growth that you see
within yourself because you can see like, hey man, I'm
getting better even on thirty two.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But then you see what people are saying, and you like,
are y'all serious? Like this is how y'all feel about me?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
But it's like you can't get caught up in that
because now you lose sight of your bro And I
feel like a lot of players nowadays like they're battle
and battles. You shouldn't like fight like you're battling insecurity
because of how people see you within their parlays, battling
insecurity based off of how they see you in a
(25:11):
way that you play your game. And it's like, you
have to remind yourself, this is a job you're clocking in,
and when you clock out, that means everything clocks out. Like,
don't get caught up in this stuff that's going like
to tear you away from everything you want to accomplish
in this league.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Right, That's a great and that's great advice because that's
the truth. I mean, it's it's been around long enough
and we've been in the spotlight long enough to understand.
I've dealt with it since the beginning of Twitter and
Instagram and all that, and I've learned early on, I'm
not about to let y'all get to me. I treat
the two imposters to say, y'all can give me a
compliment on there, I don't care. You can sit there
and say the worst thing about me. I don't care.
(25:50):
At the end of the day, like I go out,
I'm doing what I want to do. I'm doing what
I worked my whole life to do. I'm taking care
of my family. I'm trying to be a good dad,
a good father, a good huns, trying to be a
good brother, a good son, a good friend. That's about it.
I mean, I'm not gonna let complete strangers dictate my mood,
you know. I mean, if I played like crap, I
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know I played like crap, and I'm harder on myself
than anybody. If I played great, I'm gonna let you
know something.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Ain't no stopping me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Ain't no stopping me. You know me better than that.
I'll be the first to tell I say, hey, you
you did that. Now, look this. People were calling me
washed my ninth year when when I went to the
super Bowl with San Francisco they calling me. Why. I said,
look y'all calling me washed during an all pro year
while I'm going to the super Bowl. Look, if y'all
(26:38):
can say that, then I guess you can say whatever
the hell you want. You lose credibility, But that's what
you got to understand. You're dealing with people during your
best season will sit there and say your suck. He's like, well,
this isn't this isn't true at all in reality, and
another reality in an alternate universe, and it's not true now.
(27:00):
So I'm not gonna let your your conjecture, your bullshit
gets me, Like I can't because you have other things
going on. We live in a world of hate and
vitrol and like divisiveness. So when that's the case, a
lot of people take their anger and frustration out on
the on the internet, and now they got kind of
(27:22):
a slipper of access to the athletes. Yeah, so they
can bring you down. They can try to pull a
lot of people claw you down to where they're at
in their frustration and their depression. And if you let them,
it's on you.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, And that's why, bro, Like I've been doing a
lot of self talk, like a lot of like just
thinking lately, right and just seeing like some of the
things that you see on social media. You balance it
out by understanding, like, man, y'all don't understand like the
politics of this game. Y'all don't understand the business side
of this game. Y'all don't understand what players and and
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and what all of us have to be able to
deal with based off of your window of being able
to play and the opportunity that you get to showcase
your skills, because everybody gets different opportunities. And so one
of the things that I just thought about that a
lot of us know is players just in general. But
you know, whether you get drafted or you come in
as a free agent, your first contract is show.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Me who you are, like, show me what you could do.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Then as you get closer that second contract, that's all right,
we're paying you because this is the player that we
see you becoming during this deal, which is a deal
of potential. Right then the third contract is all right,
you showed us your potential. Now we're looking at the numbers.
Everything is based off of production. So now we're paying
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you because it's the production that you've gave. Well, after
you get that third contract to production, like now it's
about reliability.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How reliable are you?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You might not get the same targets, you might not
get the same opportunities that you once got. But when
the ball is throwing your way, Richard, are you making
the player? When the ball is throwing to you, lot,
are you making a play? And if you're not making
a play, you're no longer reliable, which means that all
these other things that you get statistics as you get older,
it's not there anymore. But the more that you can
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become reliable, the more that they start to say, okay,
like he's being able to blossom in this phase of
being reliable.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But you also got to adapt throughout the years too.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And that's what I've learned, is you can't think that
you're the same lock and year five or you're six,
or you're seven or you're eight, like, you have to
be able to adapt to this new lock who you've
become at this age and this year that you're playing
in the role that you've been given. And then you
got to understand too, like, and this is just things
that I think we all got to do. We got
to adapt. This we adapt because you know, you look
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at it, there's not a lot of guys in your
ten are still playing, right, Like, so when you start
looking at stuff like that, you start to have more gratitude,
you start to be more thankful. Like the longer that
you play, the more stuff that you're going to see,
the more more that you're gonna see, how like you know,
all right, like you might start getting fizzled out or
people might start doing like that's what everybody starts to
(30:07):
deal with and seeing the league, and so you gotta
be able to like be more drawn within yourself kind
of like how you how you pat yourself on the back.
You gotta do more like self service the older that
you get, because you might not get that good job
anymore because they're like, Bro, you've been so relied with
the whole time, Richard.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Like, right, it was spoiled.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, why should I tell you? Good job?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know that was a good job, right, But first off,
first off, you got your stuff off a little bit.
You got you get your bars off because you start
talking third and fourth contracts and a lot of people ain't.
They ain't even speaking second. So look, don't talk crazy
to me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Oh the crazy part, bro, is like you know, I
was like I always wanted to play like eight years.
It just sounded like a good number. My dad played seven,
so I like, you know, cool, And then when I
really look back, I'm like, bro, eight went by so fast,
so fast, to the point where.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I was like, I'm playing nine, and then it was cool.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Didn't go the way I would have wanted it to go,
But I you know, I still thought I did really good,
and there was some things I could learn. So now
I'm in your ten and I'm like, bro, Like, you know,
there's a lot of fuel from your nine that I'm
excited about being able to get back to year ten.
You know, we got a like new coaching staffs all around.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So obviously that's different with the transition of being with
Pete for nine years and then having to be able
to adapt to Mike and what he brings. But I think,
like you know, for me, like being able to go
into year ten, it's like it's cool, but then there's
some things that you're like, oh, I gotta adjust to
that because I don't have that same schedule.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Like the pregame threw me off of the preseason because
I'm like, oh, this is the same pregame. But like,
I think the cool part for me too is at
least I get an opportunity to see what it's like
to be under a new coach and to be able
to see how they do things and to learn how
they do things, because if I ever do the beside
to be an offensive coordinator or a head coach, one day,
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I got to learn, like from Shoddy, I got to
learn from Bev, I got to learn from Shane and
now I get to learn from grub and then like
whatever else comes my way, Like I get to learn
so many different people's like strategies, to where I can
try to put all.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Of that in the one right right and you can
take the best of what you learned and all that.
And speaking of strategies and leadership and all that, you
were pretty vocal after this last game. You know that
that guy's got to be more locked in on these walkthroughs.
Guys got to be you know what I mean, treat
the walkthrough like a game and kind of sounded familiar
to me. Kind of sounded.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Like when y'all were shooting hoops were.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, I had to do returns, you know what I mean.
Don't hate on me. I had to catch returns. They
didn't use my skill set enough return game.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
No, man, you you definitely return When I had the
fake that catch for Chicago, you put it cup the ball.
But now I think, man, I just think bro like,
and I tried to say it during the media thing too,
I'm like, it's not like we're not doing those things right,
but when you look at the pre snap penalties that
we're having, those things can get cleaned up and walk
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through them. And you know, I think like it's a
give and take, right, Like, obviously you want everything.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
To be the same.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
You want to be more focused and walk through, and
you want everybody to be in an alignment and not
joking around all the time whatever. But that means we're
robots at that point, right, So you know that there's
gonna be some people that's kind.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Of like, all right, they're distracted, like bring them back in.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But when you've looked, when you've lost three in a row,
and when you keep having like penalties, and when you
keep having pre snap alignment penalties, like, that's when we
just got to be able to all make sure that
we're buying in to be able to get it cleaned up,
myself included. And so if we can do that at
the beginning of practice or and walk through, it's amazing
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some of the stuff that gets like wiped away in practice, right,
And then once you get into the game, then it's
like all right, like Pete used to say, all right, guys,
we're a top three in penalties.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Can we just get it to fifteen? Can we just
be somewhere in the you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
So it gets to like if we can wipe out
two or three, like, cause we're already like fifteen, we're
already in the middle. So like you know, even with Mike,
it's like, if we can knock out some of these penalties,
we'll go from we won't go from second and three
to second and thirteen or the second and three to
second and eight. Like those are the things I think
that shoot us in the foot as an offense to
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where now we're getting in this passing downs where defenses
are like we know they're about to pass the ball.
But if we can be able to stay in the
second and three second and force it allows us to
be able to utilize and run anything in a playbook.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, I mean, and and it just seemed like especially
your first three games, obviously the opponents were different, but
there was more balance to the scheme. You know. Obviously
they were giving K nine the ball, then he got
banged up, and then you brought Charbonne in and they
tried to run him. But you can't run him as
much as Knine because you've got nobody after him really
to run that they truly trust in that way. So
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I think that changed a lot of things offensively, And
when you're throwing it forty times. Aga. It's great for
a receiver, but I'm sure that offensive line is sitting
there like hey, Bell had to run it a few times. Now,
we'd be perfectly fine and just let us t off
once or twice because these dudes teeing off on us.
But I agree with you. I agree when you when
you lose three your your your margin for error is less,
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which means your ability to have fun and to joke
around and to be as loose diminishes. But as a team,
you lose the margin for error, and you gotta just
lock in, at least for a little while, get yourself
back on track. You guys got a stretch right now, Atlanta.
You guys go to Atlanta, you play Buffalo at home.
(36:10):
You got the Rams. That's a that's a pretty good
stretch and it can go either way. You got a
bye week after that, then you got the Niners again
in San Francisco. So that's a stretch that can be
season defining. As you know in all your years that
this game, you know, you go through street. It's the
striaty league, right if you get you get hot at
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the right time, and you got the quarterback, you got
the offense. Schematically, it looks good. You're getting healthier. I
don't know when Abe Lucas is coming back, but when
you get that right tackle kind of more secured, and
you know, things can happen throughout the season. Biron Murphy
comes back. I'm sure Ric will come back soon. You're
getting healthier, You're getting better, so it is just a
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time for everybody to lock in and be back on it.
I like what Mike said, you know, he takes a
lot of responsibility for what happens, you know, with this team,
but as you know, it's the players lead, you know.
I ain't seen the coach go out there and catch
pass or throw throw one. Yet.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, everything goes as far as we wanted to go.
And I think, you know, even as I got into
the league, I think the biggest thing that you learn
is the teams that are always going to stick around
the longest, are the teams that are willing to buy
you in longer than everybody else. And with all the
distractions and with all the things that, like you know,
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we as athletes face within playing in the league, it's like,
how well can you be able to balance that out?
How well can you be able to continue to buy
in day in and day out so that we can
be able to achieve this ultimate goal that we all
want to be able to achieve, because there's gonna be
so many things that's going to take us away from
what it is that we want, and it's gonna be
so many moments and even like when you lose, like
(37:50):
I understand people say, you know, when you lose, like
you know, you didn't lose if you learn from it,
And I mean, I agree with that, but you also
got to be able to understand and like, all right,
learning just isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We gotta go out there and we gotta make it happen,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Like sometimes you know, sometimes you gotta be patient and
let things take place.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Other times you gotta go out there. You just gotta
take it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
And so I think for us, I think we're in
a really great position to be able to understand who
are we really as a team, you know what I mean? Like,
are we at this place where we're gonna mope around
or we're gonna point fingers? Are we at this place
where we like a three in a row that's it?
Like we could go out here in ball, like we
was close in all of these games for the most part.
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Like it's not like we couldn't have won that game,
but like, let's go out there and let's figure out,
like what can we do to be ahead of these
teams rather than trying to come back, Like what can
we do to be able to like maybe maybe we
start to control the ball a lot longer to work
now other teams don't have a chance to get their
offensive on the field.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's like, however, we gotta go play those games.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Let's go be greater playing those games, because it feels
so much better coming in with a win than to
be able to sit here and you ain't won in
about a week and a half because we played you know,
three games and ten days, right right.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I mean. And it's also how your leaders approach it,
how your leaders talk to each other, How do your
leaders talk to the rest of the team, because that
has a big effect on how how they see things
and how they talk to each other. And that's what
I found out later in my career is like, hey,
when we start moping around and we start talking crazy,
then the young dude's gonna be looking at us and
they're gonna start moping and talking crazier and you're like, wait,
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why y'all talking crazy. It's like, well, we're watching you
and you're talking crazy. And so it's like when you
when you you know, it's unfair sometimes and it's like, oh,
you know, but two great You know, those who have
great power get great responsibility. And that's the responsibility that
comes with being in the league for a long time,
being a good player, being productive, getting paid a lot
(39:57):
of money. Is that. Yeah, when you when you do something,
everybody else is gonna do it. So sometimes you got
to shut the hell up. Sometimes you gotta smile when
you don't want to smile. Sometimes you got to do
work you don't want to do. You gotta have conversations
you don't want to have because that's the way it is.
And when you're losing, you have to somehow be optimistic
and show people, hey, there's hope, there's fine, we good,
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We're gonna do it. But we do got to tighten up.
We got to tighten this stuff up, and we got
to tighten it up every single day and every single way,
every single person defensively offensive. We're not gonna point the
finger at nobody. We just gonna keep going in the
same direction. But we got to tighten up. You gotta
care more. You gotta care more. I gotta care more,
and we got to put it on tape. And I
think that's gonna happen for you guys. I look forward
to seeing your game against Atlanta, and Atlanta that's a
(40:41):
that's a good matchup, a good chance to bounce back.
You know, they've had some good games, They've struggled some
in some of these games. With Kirk coming back, obviously
they're coming off a win. But I think that's a
really really fun matchup in a team a game y'all
will win. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
No, I first off, that's spoken like a two, spoken
like a true coach, all the stuff that you said, man,
And I mean, I think Atlanta is a really good team.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Obviously, you know they're foreign two.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
They've done a great job and being able to position
themselves and I mean they you know, they were at
a place where they almost be the chiefs as well,
and so you know, for us, we just got to
come in and just do our part. Like you said,
it's crazy, bro, because when you think about it, there's
so many life lessons you learn through football to where
it's like you go from there and then you take
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it to life and.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
People be like how you let stuff go so much?
Speaker 4 (41:35):
And you like you just learn over time, Like you
drop enough footballs, you got to learn how to be
able to let it go, you know what I mean.
Like sometimes like moments matter more than others, but you
start to realize that not every moment is bigger than
the other, and so it's kind of cool, bro, like
the stuff that we learn.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
There's more that you learn just with.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Playing sports than you do in life, because sometimes in
life you don't get thrown all those like adversity moments
and stuff like that right away. Like every day we're practice,
and it's like in the league, you gotta if you
want to play, you gotta practice, and if you can't
perform when you're practicing, then you're not gonna play. And
so you go through so many ups and downs just
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in practice, right Like you always think that if I'm
one hundred percent, I could show my best, like people
don't see me, but nobody's playing at one hundred percent.
Like at some point you got these nagging injuries and
stuff like this, and you still gotta go play and
people might not know anything about it or whatever, but
you still got to perform at the highest level because
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you know.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
That you're always being evaluated every single time you.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Touch that field. Understand this. Understand this because there's, like
you just said, there's so many carryovers and things that
apply from sports to real life. But being a father
is so much like football because really, because because your
wife doesn't care, your kids don't care. You had a
bad day, You're not feeling good, your chest hurts, your
(43:04):
back hurts, like your your can't die. Whatever. They expect
Dad to steady the ship. Yeah, Dad has to steady
the ship. Dad has gotta Dad's having a good day.
That's okay. That's and I know you've probably seen these
memes and and and videos and stuff on social media
of like, hey, no matter what, dad gotta show up.
Dad is gonna make it happen. Taska, Like, you won't
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truly understand that until you become a dad and you
realize they don't care how you're doing. Nobody's gonna asks you, Hey, Tyler,
you're doing it all right? Hey baby? You you might
you my wife might like I'm not saying anything about
it about hurt, but you might only get a card
for Christmas most years Father's Day that it's not gonna
be a big celebration like it is Mother's Day, birthdays.
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You're gonna feel like I'm pouring so much into everybody
and nobody poured into me. So what your dad? Show up?
Be there, stabilize this ship, make sure we are right,
make sure the roof is over our head, make sure
everybody else. That's part of being that. And so when
it comes to football, nobody cares if you're hurt. Did
you did you strap them up? Did you lace them up?
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Than you one hundred percent? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Bro, you know what, I just realized, we're in here
twenty twenty four, right. I got married in twenty twenty three.
There's a lot of twenty twenty three. I'm so caught
up in this being a twenty twenty five season. So
boy that hey, life of a football.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Player it's in seasons.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Hey, I'm gonna start just saying July fifteen.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
There you go, there you go, there you go. Hey,
do not forget that. Do not forget that. I'm gonna
let you know something, repeat that, do not forget that.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I don't look I remember that date. I just boy,
I thought I was thinking July. I'm thinking we're in
twenty twenty five right now.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
That's how I am.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But bro my own.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
You know the other thing that I've learned too, just
what being able to play is when you start trying
to do stuff outside of you know, your sport. Like
for me, like how I've gotten into like the real
estate business. It's like you got to get past these
thoughts of all right, if I don't play well, they
gonna they're gonna blame this, you know what I'm saying.
(45:26):
Like you start like especially like how we talk about
social media. Fans are like why don't you just go
sell houses or whatever the case is. But like when
I when I think about like being able to get
into the real estate stuff, it's like I encourage anybody
if you got stuff that you want to be able
to do, do it while you're playing because you have
so much access, You have so much opportunities to be
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able to network with everybody, so that when you're done playing,
you're not trying to lay the foundation from scratch.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
You're actually like at a point where you've laid the foundation.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You did everything break by break, and now it's growing
to where people would just come to you and be like, hey, man,
can you sell the house? Can you be able to
help me buy this commercial property or whatever the case is.
But when you wait and you don't do anything but
just enjoy the lifestyle, right or just enjoy football. It's like, Okay,
let's say you play for five years. Well, if you
(46:24):
were in college for four years, you wasted nine years
of no network because all these kids are coming out
of college and they got a network for those four
or five six years that they are in school. But
if you didn't do no networking in college and then
you're in the league and you didn't take advantage of
any networking there, now whenever.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It's like hey, hey, mo Kelly, can you help me? Sorry, man,
you ain't got access to the Seahawks no more, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
I wish that a lot of guys would take advantage
of being able to start whatever it is that they're
trying to do while they're playing. It doesn't have to
be in the scope of I'm doing it and going
hard at it's the same as I'm doing football, but
just get into.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
It to the point of where you don't have to
start from scratch.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Kid, it's it's I think it's scary for guys. I
think it's scary for guys because they feel like, especially
young guys, and I was that way. You feel like,
once you start to get there, you're you're you're you're
starting to enter football career, and so you're old enough
and wise enough to know that's not true. But when
you're young, you're like, Bro, if I take any focus
away from this that I work my whole life to
(47:29):
get to, then I'm doing myself a disservice. But as
you get older, you know, I can split focus. You
know what I mean, You're you're you're older. That's what's
gonna make you a good dad. Now. You know, when
you're young and your your dad, it's probably harder because
you can't split focus. You gotta be here or here
or here. Now, when you get older, you're like, all right,
I'm here, I'm here. I gotta be here too. I'm
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watching you out of the corner of my eye. Hey,
get out of the toilet. Get out of that toilet. Yeah,
but but that's a you're a great example that it's possible,
and you don't understand that you're inspiring kid. It's to
be able to understand that they can do that. And
I tried to do that. I started my podcast my
last two years playing in the football National Football League,
and I was like, hey, I mean just what I
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want to do after so I might as well start
now while I can get access to players. I'm talking
about relevant things and people are watching.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, I think you've done a great job with that, bro, Like,
because the crazy thing is when you retire is like
they say thank you and then guess what.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
You go back to the Richard Sherman that a lot
of people never knew. They just knew the Richard Sherman
had put on a helmet in New Jersey and played.
But when you put on a podcast, they always are
going to remember that name and they always are gonna
remember that face, and they don't have to say what
is he doing because it's like I see what he's doing.
I see he goes from doing this podcast now he's
(48:47):
with Amazon Thursday night, you know, getting ready for the
game and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I think the other person that does a great
job is Cam with New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Well even Cam Chancellor on with you know y'all got Legion,
but Jordan, Yeah, but even Cam Jordan, Like, I think
he does a great job. When you go to the
Super Bowl, he right there on the field talking and
doing all those types of things. So it's it's a
lot of players that are taking advantage of it and
that's doing the right thing. And you just hope that
(49:19):
you've done your part and not only being able to
show everybody, but being able to communicate that with the
upcoming generation because this generation different.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
It's like you never thought you say that, did.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You, man?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
And you still find some people that can that could
have been able to like thrive in a generation you
know that you were in growing up. But with the
new generation, it's like you have to adapt the process.
You got to adapt to those conversations. You got to
be able to find different.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Ways to meet people where they at because you know,
when we got drafted, man, I was life changing money.
But now you look at like a lot of these
kids like to I'm just not life changing money because
the Niel deals, who's like changing money and so it's
just a different way.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But like to me, I always find like different unique
ways to try to connect with people because to me,
it's fun to be able to try to do those things.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, it's it's we're in a different world and everybody
got to adapt. Then the game gotta adapt players. It's
gonna be guys that come in and say I'm not
going to that team. I didn't made enough money to
say no, I'll walk. I'll sit out another year and
wait to come back if y'all don't trade me today.
That's what we're gonna get to that day and age.
And it's fine. I think coaches are gonna have to adapt.
I think teams are gonna have to adapt to like
(50:39):
these coaches. And that's why you're seeing younger and younger
coaches get hired and coaches that are look a lot
different than the guys used to used to say other
than Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell looks like an old school
football coach. But outside of Dan Campbell, you see younger
you know, guys that are like nerdy, guys that are
likely analytics, guys who really can tell you draw up
plays and understand how this is affecting the defense or
(51:01):
this is affecting the offense. And that's what the game
is adapting to. But it's because the kids are adapting too.
The kids are changing and you're you're seeing these young quarterbacks,
you know, come out with a lot more prepared or
a lot less prepared. And when when they're that, when
they're not prepared, then you've got to have the coordinator
to put them into positions to be successful. You got
to say, hey, coordinator, you got to draw up the
(51:22):
scheme to put these guys in position. They're not reading
the defense like you want them to see it. Cool,
now it's just different. You got to adapt and the
games adapting. And I think that's a big reason the
points are down and things like that, because they're trying
to play all these young quarterbacks that aren't necessarily ready
to play, but they have to play anyway. And so
now scheme's got to be designed to make the game
simple and easy for him. And these defenses are getting
(51:44):
harder to read. Mike's defense is tough. It's tough to see.
If you're not seeing that defense every day and the
complicated looks and how they're disguising stuff, then the moment
you see it, you're gonna be like, wait a minute,
way was that two? Three? Was that a fire zone weight?
Did they cover him with the safety weight? How did
he try that? And so but I like it and
I appreciate what the game is becoming. I appreciate you
(52:07):
know how you well you're playing and adapting to the
environment that you're in. And I think you guys are
gonna be fine. I look forward to seeing you guys.
I got you guys in the playoffs this year. So
fingers crossed. Everything got a goal like it needs to go.
So you do your part, and I'm gonna keep cheering
from my side.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Is that a parlay?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Don't worry about don't worry about all that. Don't worry
about what I got going on.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Hey man, it's crazy. You get the bet down and
we used to gotta go play.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
Hey, you want to play? I ain't playing.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Hey, I got one more question for you, broh. Would
you ever be if you had to be one of
the three? Would you be an agent? Would you be
a GM or would you be a head coach in
the league.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Oh, that's a good question. Agent is no, So it's
either GM or head coach. I'd be I'd be a GM.
I want to put the team together. I don't think
I want to necessarily deal with the headache of all
the nonsense. I want to run the team, put the
guys in place and put the personnel in place and
(53:11):
see the culture develop and know that I picked the
right people for the job. I think I'd be better
at that job than a head coach. I think a
head coach, I'd be fine, but I'd be tough. You
know what I mean. It'd be tough. It'd be a
tough job to do it. It's a tough balancing act
because I played for certain kind of a head coaches,
So I couldn't be too hard on the guys because
(53:31):
I played for Pete, I said, on mine and play
for balance Jack. I played for Pete, and Pete's as
relaxed of a head coach as you're gonna ever find.
But he does want things out of his player. He
requires certain things. It's still cut throat business, but he's
just not cutting throats. He's letting everybody cut each other's throats. Hey, y'all,
get out there. I'm gonna roll the ball out best
man plays. If I gotta cut you, you're gonna see
(53:52):
it every day in tape. You're gonna see I showed
you to one on ones every day. So you know
why you got cut. Your teammates know why you got cut.
It's not a surprise, so you would have that aspect.
I don't agree with conditioning tests and stuff like that,
so I wouldn't run my team into the ground. I
would practice a lot of them out that the tempo
would be up all the time. So it just be
certain things that I'd be like, I don't know. I
(54:13):
probably enjoyed that space, but I think I'd enjoy putting
the team together more. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, Well, I love to see it, Bro, because I
do think that you're one of the most sophisticated people
in the game of football, and whether it's a GM
and the team together.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Hey man, when I'm out that league, call me.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I'm calling you, come coach, Come coach my receivers or
coordinate my offense.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
No, I ain't saying I'll go home.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
I said, hey, Sharon, I gotta be here right right now.
But I love to see it, Bro, because I do
think that you would be like a great coach, like
like I'm not comparing you to like Dion. I think
Dion is a great coach as well, but I think
you could bring that same type of like activity, you
know what I mean. Like we love watching Colorado play,
(55:03):
Like obviously I had to go to the other side
because they was playing k State. But you see, you
see something different, like the aura is different, Like you
got celebrities going there, and you know, with Dion being
able to be successful there, it gives us an opportunity
to enter these spaces a lot more faster than although, okay,
we got to go through a ga job and we
(55:24):
gotta be some type of position coach first and then
an OC.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
So I definitely do see like you being able to
get an opportunity like that.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
A lot faster than other people having to go through
the proper channels just to be able to get there.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Right right. I appreciate that. Yeah, I think I look
forward to to exploring that place once I'm done with
the media space. But I'm in the media space right
now and I'm enjoying that. But I notice you're all day,
and I'm gonna let you go enjoy yourself and take
care of your old body. I appreciate you coming on,
no problem.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's a bonus Monday, brother, all.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
Right, right, don't yeah, Yeah, y'all got their big weekend.
I appreciate you, brother, all right, man, I love you, bro,
love you too. I got to call the wife back
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Speaker 2 (01:47):
Don't foo Bowl championships. That should always be the expectation.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
All right, man, ex you go ahead. Welcome back to
the Richard Sherman Podcast. Present it to you by our
sponsors and friends over at Brightly, and it's time for
breaking news. Davonte Adams was traded to the New York Jets.
Obviously things went on yesterday. They lost that game. They
had a great chance to win that game. A miscommunication
(02:11):
between Aaron Rodgers and Mike Williams led to an interception
that closed out that game. Now he got his boy back.
Davonte Adams spent a number of years as one of
the best tandems to ever play the International Football League.
They had ridiculous chemistry. As somebody who played against him,
it's hard to understand the mental connection that they had.
(02:33):
Sometimes it'd just be a look and they both understood
what the play was, whether it's back shoulder, a slant,
whatever the case may be. I think this is a
great move for the Jets. It'll boost this offense and
give them a chance. I think if they had him
in this game against the Buffalo Bills, that would have
been a win. I don't think he's going to Mike
Williams in those situations. He did either going to Garrett
Wilson or Davonte Adams in those situations, and that'll be
(02:56):
the case. I think this takes a lot of pressure
off Davante, I mean, off of Garrett Wilson and gives
him a veteran presence, a guy who he's trying to emulate,
who's now right there in the building. But one thing
I did not like Woody Johnson. That's enough. That's enough.
Now you're saying you gotta go with your instinct, and
(03:16):
you gotta make a decision to build a culture. What
do you think Robert Sala was doing. He built this
culture over three years, a good culture, good team, good staff,
guys that like each other, guys that play hard. Now
you're building a culture after firing him in the middle
of the season. That and they lose a game, and
now you're making another instinctual knee jerk reaction. This should
(03:40):
have happened before. This should have happened at the beginning
when these conversations. Devonte Adams was available. This should have
been the trade immediately, But instance you waited to lose
another game. Now you're behind the eight ball. Hopefully this
gets the team back on track. But I just don't
like him saying that. I don't like him saying that
after what he's already done. You injected turmoil into this team,
(04:02):
and now you're talking about building culture. Like, stop it,
stop it. But this is a great move. They got
him for a conditional third round pick, which I thought
would happen. It becomes a second round pick if he's
an All Pro or the Jets make the AFC Championship game,
which possibly could happen. But this late in the season,
it's hard to be an All Pro. But he hasn't
(04:23):
played in three games. I mean, there's certain things that
are going in factor. Even if he goes off with Aaron.
Other receivers are playing well. Nico Collins, who's hurt right now,
Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. Those guys always have a case.
I'm n Ross Saint Brown. It's guys that have a
case to make first team All Pro this year. Tyreek
Kill will always be around even though it's quarterback's not there.
(04:43):
You know, if Tua Tongue Bailla comes back, you know
Tyreek Hill will factor into that as well. But I
think this is a great move for the Jets. I
think this is a right move. This is all in.
This is what Jerry Jones was talking about with the
Dallas Cowboys, except it's really all in. I would have
felt more all in if you didn't fire the head
coach though, But sorry to keep harping on that, but
(05:04):
that's where the fly in the soup for me is
you don't fire the head coach and then say make
the right decisions, like you changed the offensive coordinators, got
it right decision. You trade for Davonte Adams, the right decision,
but you fire the head coach unnecessarily not the right decision.
(05:25):
So I'm very happy with this decision for Aaron. For Davante,
he gets to play football again. I'm sure he's going
to be available because he was injured. We'll see how
injured he is this week. I think he'll be available
to play for the New York Jets. He'll be out there.
I don't know if he'll wear seventeen. I don't know
who has it right now. I have to study that
and look at it, but more than likely he's going
to pay somebody to get seventeen. But in season, I
(05:46):
think it's kind of weird. We'll see if they're able
to make that happen. But good for DeVante Adams. We'll
try to have him on the pod to talk about this.
Good for Aaron. If you love something, you let it go,
and if it comes back to you, then it was
really yours. And that's what happened right now. Aaron Rodgers
let Davonte Adams go. He went to seek better pastures,
(06:10):
to seek freedom, to see if the grass was greener,
and Aaron was still there when he returned. And he's
come back, and I think this is going to be
again a great relationship, a great thing for the New
York Jets, and I'm looking forward to it. Something that
has me scratching my head a little bit right now
is Pittsburgh. Right now. Rumor Ian Rapperport is saying Russell
(06:35):
Wilson's taking the first team reps this week at practice,
which puts him in line to start this week for
the Pittsburgh Steelers against guess who, the New York Jets.
I'd be fine with this. If it was sooner, I
would have been fined. I know he was getting healthy
and it was doing. But six games into the season
now seven this will be the seventh game of the season.
It's just so much going on, you know, for ruts.
(06:58):
But I believe in Tomlin. I trust to Tomlin is
a great coach and better coach than I could ever
imagine and hope to be, so I have no right
to question his decision making. I think, you know, he's
making it based on things he saw in film, things
he saw in practice, the tape, the game tape, what
he saw from justin fields. Maybe he wants to see more.
(07:18):
Maybe he thinks Russell Wilson could get more out of
this offense than justin fields. Maybe he's not seeing some
of these receivers and he's inaccurate in certain passes, but
this is the decision that he's making. My concern with
it is the rust factor. The rust not Russ. The
rust factor that Russell hasn't played a game this season,
(07:38):
so getting up to game speed is something that's real.
It's significant, Like you have to it's going to take
him a second to get back to the speed of
the game, to go through his reads. And you see
it in the first few weeks of the season, guys
knocking off Russ. You saw from Aaron Rodgers, you saw
it from a number of young quarterbacks. You know, obviously
he's a veteran quarterback, but just taking real game reps,
taking hits, being able to take the hits, being able
(08:00):
to be quick and decisive with the ball. And this
is a desperate team. They're about to be playing in
the New York Jets, a team that's that's doing everything
they can to try to get in this playoff hunt.
And they're a foreign two team sitting pretty comfortably. So
maybe that's why Mike Tomlin felt like he has a
little bit of a cushion, and you know he can,
he can make these decisions. I think he feels like, hey,
(08:20):
if it doesn't go great, he can go back to
Justin Fields. But it's it's the decision that he's making
and we'll just wait and see. We'll wait and see.
It may go great. They may win the next six
to seven straight. Russell may play out of this world,
out of his mind and this team. But I think offensively,
I thought Pittsburgh would have been a good landing spot
for Devontae Adams because they need another receiver outside of
(08:43):
George Pickens. They just don't have another dynamic receiver. They
lost Deontay Johnson when they traded away Deontay Johnson, and
I thought they'd pick up somebody in a draft or
trade for somebody, and they didn't. And I thought they
they you know, rumor has it that they were in
on the Devonte Adams and it didn't fall through. He
went back with Aaron And so that's the part that
(09:04):
concerns me about this offense because you may feel like, hey,
Justin Fields isn't getting the left out of George Pickens,
but that's their only weapon. You still got fire move.
But I just don't see this being a drastic change
in terms of production for this offense, and maybe it is.
I could be wrong, but I thought Justin brought an
element of scrambling and rushing and put the defense on
(09:25):
their heels at times and was able to do certain
things and evade these sacks with his legs. That made
him a different quarterback than Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson may
make better decisions with the football Makesten plays and have
more chunk plays, and that may be what Mike Tomlin
and the Pittsburgh Steelers are valuing from him. But we
get to see in a couple of days how this
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Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. I got one
of my favorite guests on with me, Tyler Locking at
the Seattle Seahawks. Appreciate you joining me, Man.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No problem, big bro, appreciate you for having me so
talk to.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Me about life. You know you're married now? Is it kids?
How kid?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Kids or a kid?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You gotta be one on the way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Hey so so yeah, I ended up getting married last
year Man July fifteen, twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Four and appreciate the invite.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Hey, man, I'm sorry, bro, she put a limitation on me.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Man, and I wanted everybody to go because I'm like
this how you lose friends because everybody cares about this moment, right,
But man, it was actually really cool. I think, like
one of the most awkward things for me is walking
down the aisle and everybody looking at you. You know,
it's way different from football. It's like football, I'm kind
of like in a run where I could play. I
(11:57):
know what I'm doing, but walking down the like people
think you about to cry, like you know me, I'm
just laughing and having fun the whole time. But I
mean we're you know, we're working on, you know, being
able to have kids and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But right now we got two golden DOODLESO.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Those might be worse than kids.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Oh they are hunters.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
You keep them outside or what they're inside dog.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Brou Yeah, we keep them inside, man, but they be
tearing up shoes and socks and you know, granted they're
like ten months old right now, but I mean, right
now they're a handful.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Bet so, so you're prepping yourself mentally, You're prepping your
patience because that's what it's gonna take. When you get kids,
you're gonna see them break stuff, and instead of being
you're gonna have to just be like, ah, nah, you
don't know no better. And then you're gonna look up
and they twelve, and you're gonna be like, I think
you kind of know better, but I think I'm about
(12:52):
to have to say something to you because you didn't
lost your goddag mine. But with the puppies, you're gonna
be like, Okay, it's all right, it's all right, You're
you're okay. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I think the hard part for me bro is just
being able to find that balance of all right, you hurt,
but you're not injured, you know what I mean, Because
it's like at first you like, hey, don't do that, Like,
you know, it's different things I see with my friends
they got kids, and then eventually like, oh they hit
their head on the wall, and you like, you are okay,
you don't have to cry, you know. So for me,
(13:20):
I just get a little nervous because you know, first time,
when you do get a chance to be a parent,
you just want to do everything right and there's no
way of being perfect. But like, you don't want perfect
to drive you through anxiety and all this different type
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What if Well, first off, first off, you're gonna do
a great job, and you're gonna be the opposite of perfect.
You're not gonna get everything right and it's gonna be
perfectly fine. The humans have survived for a long time
not being perfect. And it's just so many The hard
part about today versus what our parents is just so
many outside things that you don't control with your kids,
even once you put them in school and you can
(13:56):
be like, I'll homeschool them. Okay, Well, if they see
the TV, if you let them watch TV at all,
they'll see something. You're like, they're never watched TV all right, Well,
you sitting there thinking you hiding them in the bubble.
Once that bubble pops, it's gonna be even worse. So
you better off just being transparent and like explaining, being
there to explain to them what's going on, then them
see it without you and then put it through their
(14:18):
little minds and then come up with a solution or
or with the understanding of what's going on in front
of them. But it's fun being a parent. And I
think you're gonna do a great job. A lot of
the knicks and stuff is how you respond to it.
So it's like the first time they hit themselves. If
you're sitting there like, oh, then it's gonna be an issue.
(14:38):
But if you like, hey, you all right, get on up,
they're gonna be like, oh okay, yeah, I'm all right.
I don't get up there? Are you good? You ain't better?
And I'll be all right.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So your kids play sports? Yeah, so what are you
doing this day and age with nils and all that
different type of stuff, like you going to the highest
bidder telling them patients.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Like, oh, I don't care nothing about it. I'm treating
them like when we were in school, Like it's a
whatever school you feel most comfortable going to, and all
add Hey, the coach that that that you talks to
you and you feel good in that scheme, good in
that environment, a chance to play whatever you want, then
that's where we go. The money, the money ain't gonna
factor in. If the money factoring in, then I didn't
(15:22):
make enough. I didn't I didn't set the president wrong.
But I'm gonna try to get them to just focus
on that the stuff they can control and the stuff
that that that is important outside of money because eventually,
you know, when you let money be the main driving factor,
it's gonna be an issue, you know, because the moment
(15:42):
you don't perform, or the moment you have a bad game,
then your self consciously like I only pick this place
because of the money, and look look what it got me. Yeah,
but that's just old man wisdom. But how your body feeling,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
It's feeling pretty good. I will say ten days and
with three games is a little rough. Yeah, you know,
just being able to adapt to the body different stuff
like that. But I mean, you know, for me, I'm
learning like your body is basically the thing that makes
everything go. And as you get older, it's like, hey, man,
if you don't run the same, that's the quickest way
(16:17):
out the league. Or if you're not reliable, you know,
like you might've been before, like that's the quickest way
out the league. So you're almost fighting against those, like
those kinds of things that start to change as you
get older, being able to see if you could just
maintain that speed a little bit longer, maintain that quickness
just a little bit longer, so you can continue to
be able to thrive as long as you want.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, you're the most veteran, longest tenured Seahawk on the
team now and now you know how we felt. So
how does it feel being that veteran being the guys,
that guy, being a guy that people look to and
go to for advice and you know, look to for
that kind of role man.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Honestly, Bro, I think it feels great because it kind
of like goes right into the purpose that I feel
like I've been given, like you know, kind of in
this life with God, and I feel like I kind
of get a chance to be a mediator between the coaches,
between the players, and I get the kind of like
brainstorm ideas and give people the benefit of the doubt
(17:17):
to be able to see both sides of different spectrums,
allow people to be able to see the bigger picture.
It's like, you know how we used to tell kids
in college, like, Bro, like I know, coaches on you,
but you got to be able to understand if he
wasn't that's where the real problem lies in hand.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But now you get to the league and it's different.
Stuff like you can't talk to people about money, but
you can give advice on how to be able to
make great decisions. Within their wealth or make great decisions
when it comes to buying the house. Hey, you're on
your rookie deal. You don't need to buy three or
four million dollar house, right Like you can be able
to buy maybe a five hundred thousand dollar house or
(17:54):
seven hundred thousand dollar house. And you know, there's different
ways to put you put three percent down then, so
there's different like conversations that I could be able to
have to try to be able to help players, whether
it's on the field, being able to allow them to
see like, hey, man, when you got drafted, this is
your window. Now you gotta be able to take advantage
(18:14):
of that window, because the more that you don't, the
lower and lower that windows starts to becoming. Once you're
finally ready, the opportunities aren't the same.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Great advice, wise words from a decent man.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You remember one of one of the advice that you
gave me.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm giving you a lot, but let's go for it.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
So so I remember one time I was like, hey, bro,
there's any advice.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You could give me?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What would you give me?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
And you were like, you're gonna lose more more in
practice than you do in the games.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I was like I think he's telling me that I'm
not gonna beat on one on one.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Ever, I was giving you fair and wisdom.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Man, But the games were so much more easier because
I'm like, bro, I got a line up on Sharm
on the right side every day, and then you go
to the left side, and then you got different people
like Shed, and then Shed kind of came into his
own and then I got to run across the middle
with Earl and Cam and so eventually it was like,
all right, you know what, Like now going into these games,
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this person ain't gonna press me the way that sharn
impresses me. Like I don't have to be as creative
at the line like I have to do with Sharon, because.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That one release I want with I can't do for
a month.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Exactly. I'm looking for it. I'm looking for you. You
right now among active players, you're ninth in touchdowns overall.
You know the other eight in front of you.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
If I had the guests, man, I would say, Keenan
Allen h tyreek kiel yep, Mike Evans ye.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Uh, what's that three? That's three, Amari Cooper mm hmmm, yep,
Stephane Diggs, Brandon Cooks. Nope, not Brandon Cooks. Dam, I'm
gonna have to stop at.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Five, okay. And the other ones are Davante Adams.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I thought I'm staying him.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yep, I didn't remember the hot There you go.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And then who's another person that's been playing for a long.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
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taking care of yourself. Now. I love that. I think
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a lot of young kids are starting to do that too. Now, like, hey,
I got all I could get. I'm gonna keep this
hit off my body. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
You know, it's crazy because on the internet, I'm becoming
like one of the most hated but I hate it.
But it's funny because it's just like, bro, like you
also got to understand situations, right, Like I saw a
lot of people were upset we played the Giants. Right,
it's like fourteen seconds left. I'm running like a huge
dig route. I'm like the last option, right, and so
(22:12):
I run it, go on my catch it and then
like you know, cornerback kind of got my foot my
foot a little bit, so I lost footing, but I
caught it and I kind of fell and rolled and
they were like, man, he could have called it and
took it to the house. And I'm like, it's six
seconds left. If I do that and I don't get tackled.
Now the internet is saying, he's selfish. Why would he
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do that? We needed points on the board, and so
it's like to me, it's like sometimes you gotta understand
if it's third down, get all you can get. If
it's first or second down, be smart because if you
looking at me just to be able to take a hit,
just to be able to allow you to be happy
with watching the game of football. Then you don't get
to watch me come in on Monday or Tuesday, having
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to go to treatment, having to be able to get
my body right, might not be able to practice Wednesday
or Thursday, doing whatever I can just to get back
on the field, just to be able to entertain you
again on Sunday, Like if you don't have to like
have those type of hits on your bodies, why.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Didn't do that? Right? Well, let me let me give
you a little bit of more sage wisdom in this
young age you're in, my young panawan. Do not take
criticism from people you would not take advice from.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I love out.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Do not take criticism from people you would not take
advice from. Their opinions do not matter their thought process.
What they're saying is not relevant in your life. These
are These are people that would tell you to oh,
drive with no seatbelt on while they got two seatbelts on.
They tell you don't don't look both ways before crossing
the street and they look three ways, like don't don't
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don't take advice from these people and don't take criticism
from them. These ain't the people, so I I You'll
be all right.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I think that's the biggest thing for us as players though.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Man, it's like, you know, when you get on social media,
you're not the person that like everybody doesn't know who
you are, right, they just know the football side of you.
So when you get on social media and you obviously
a lot of us we like to see what's going
on with us, what people are saying, but a thousand
great comments are destroyed by one bad thing that you see.
(24:25):
And so like in our day and age, like and
even you know, whenever you were playing too, that sounds
so old like social wow, But it's like the growth
that you see yourself having, Like I be telling myself this, like,
don't let social media stop the growth that you see
within yourself because you can see like, hey man, I'm
getting better even on thirty two.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But then you see what people are saying, and you like,
are y'all serious? Like this is how y'all feel about me?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
But it's like you can't get caught up in that
because now you lose sight of your bro And I
feel like a lot of players nowadays like they're battle
and battles. You shouldn't like fight like you're battling insecurity
because of how people see you within their parlays, battling
insecurity based off of how they see you in a
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way that you play your game. And it's like, you
have to remind yourself, this is a job you're clocking in,
and when you clock out, that means everything clocks out. Like,
don't get caught up in this stuff that's going like
to tear you away from everything you want to accomplish
in this league.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Right, That's a great and that's great advice because that's
the truth. I mean, it's it's been around long enough
and we've been in the spotlight long enough to understand.
I've dealt with it since the beginning of Twitter and
Instagram and all that, and I've learned early on, I'm
not about to let y'all get to me. I treat
the two imposters to say, y'all can give me a
compliment on there, I don't care. You can sit there
and say the worst thing about me. I don't care.
(25:50):
At the end of the day, like I go out,
I'm doing what I want to do. I'm doing what
I worked my whole life to do. I'm taking care
of my family. I'm trying to be a good dad,
a good father, a good huns, trying to be a
good brother, a good son, a good friend. That's about it.
I mean, I'm not gonna let complete strangers dictate my mood,
you know. I mean, if I played like crap, I
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know I played like crap, and I'm harder on myself
than anybody. If I played great, I'm gonna let you
know something.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Ain't no stopping me.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Ain't no stopping me. You know me better than that.
I'll be the first to tell I say, hey, you
you did that. Now, look this. People were calling me
washed my ninth year when when I went to the
super Bowl with San Francisco they calling me. Why. I said,
look y'all calling me washed during an all pro year
while I'm going to the super Bowl. Look, if y'all
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can say that, then I guess you can say whatever
the hell you want. You lose credibility, But that's what
you got to understand. You're dealing with people during your
best season will sit there and say your suck. He's like, well,
this isn't this isn't true at all in reality, and
another reality in an alternate universe, and it's not true now.
(27:00):
So I'm not gonna let your your conjecture, your bullshit
gets me, Like I can't because you have other things
going on. We live in a world of hate and
vitrol and like divisiveness. So when that's the case, a
lot of people take their anger and frustration out on
the on the internet, and now they got kind of
(27:22):
a slipper of access to the athletes. Yeah, so they
can bring you down. They can try to pull a
lot of people claw you down to where they're at
in their frustration and their depression. And if you let them,
it's on you.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, And that's why, bro, Like I've been doing a
lot of self talk, like a lot of like just
thinking lately, right and just seeing like some of the
things that you see on social media. You balance it
out by understanding, like, man, y'all don't understand like the
politics of this game. Y'all don't understand the business side
of this game. Y'all don't understand what players and and
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and what all of us have to be able to
deal with based off of your window of being able
to play and the opportunity that you get to showcase
your skills, because everybody gets different opportunities. And so one
of the things that I just thought about that a
lot of us know is players just in general. But
you know, whether you get drafted or you come in
as a free agent, your first contract is show.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Me who you are, like, show me what you could do.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Then as you get closer that second contract, that's all right,
we're paying you because this is the player that we
see you becoming during this deal, which is a deal
of potential. Right then the third contract is all right,
you showed us your potential. Now we're looking at the numbers.
Everything is based off of production. So now we're paying
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you because it's the production that you've gave. Well, after
you get that third contract to production, like now it's
about reliability.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
How reliable are you?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
You might not get the same targets, you might not
get the same opportunities that you once got. But when
the ball is throwing your way, Richard, are you making
the player? When the ball is throwing to you, lot,
are you making a play? And if you're not making
a play, you're no longer reliable, which means that all
these other things that you get statistics as you get older,
it's not there anymore. But the more that you can
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become reliable, the more that they start to say, okay,
like he's being able to blossom in this phase of
being reliable.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But you also got to adapt throughout the years too.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And that's what I've learned, is you can't think that
you're the same lock and year five or you're six,
or you're seven or you're eight, like, you have to
be able to adapt to this new lock who you've
become at this age and this year that you're playing
in the role that you've been given. And then you
got to understand too, like, and this is just things
that I think we all got to do. We got
to adapt. This we adapt because you know, you look
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at it, there's not a lot of guys in your
ten are still playing, right, Like, so when you start
looking at stuff like that, you start to have more gratitude,
you start to be more thankful. Like the longer that
you play, the more stuff that you're going to see,
the more more that you're gonna see, how like you know,
all right, like you might start getting fizzled out or
people might start doing like that's what everybody starts to
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deal with and seeing the league, and so you gotta
be able to like be more drawn within yourself kind
of like how you how you pat yourself on the back.
You gotta do more like self service the older that
you get, because you might not get that good job
anymore because they're like, Bro, you've been so relied with
the whole time, Richard.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Like, right, it was spoiled.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, why should I tell you? Good job?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know that was a good job, right, But first off,
first off, you got your stuff off a little bit.
You got you get your bars off because you start
talking third and fourth contracts and a lot of people ain't.
They ain't even speaking second. So look, don't talk crazy
to me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Oh the crazy part, bro, is like you know, I
was like I always wanted to play like eight years.
It just sounded like a good number. My dad played seven,
so I like, you know, cool, And then when I
really look back, I'm like, bro, eight went by so fast,
so fast, to the point where.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I was like, I'm playing nine, and then it was cool.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Didn't go the way I would have wanted it to go,
But I you know, I still thought I did really good,
and there was some things I could learn. So now
I'm in your ten and I'm like, bro, Like, you know,
there's a lot of fuel from your nine that I'm
excited about being able to get back to year ten.
You know, we got a like new coaching staffs all around.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
So obviously that's different with the transition of being with
Pete for nine years and then having to be able
to adapt to Mike and what he brings. But I think,
like you know, for me, like being able to go
into year ten, it's like it's cool, but then there's
some things that you're like, oh, I gotta adjust to
that because I don't have that same schedule.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Like the pregame threw me off of the preseason because
I'm like, oh, this is the same pregame. But like,
I think the cool part for me too is at
least I get an opportunity to see what it's like
to be under a new coach and to be able
to see how they do things and to learn how
they do things, because if I ever do the beside
to be an offensive coordinator or a head coach, one day,
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I got to learn, like from Shoddy, I got to
learn from Bev, I got to learn from Shane and
now I get to learn from grub and then like
whatever else comes my way, Like I get to learn
so many different people's like strategies, to where I can
try to put all.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Of that in the one right right and you can
take the best of what you learned and all that.
And speaking of strategies and leadership and all that, you
were pretty vocal after this last game. You know that
that guy's got to be more locked in on these walkthroughs.
Guys got to be you know what I mean, treat
the walkthrough like a game and kind of sounded familiar
to me. Kind of sounded.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Like when y'all were shooting hoops were.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, I had to do returns, you know what I mean.
Don't hate on me. I had to catch returns. They
didn't use my skill set enough return game.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
No, man, you you definitely return When I had the
fake that catch for Chicago, you put it cup the ball.
But now I think, man, I just think bro like,
and I tried to say it during the media thing too,
I'm like, it's not like we're not doing those things right,
but when you look at the pre snap penalties that
we're having, those things can get cleaned up and walk
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through them. And you know, I think like it's a
give and take, right, Like, obviously you want everything.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
To be the same.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
You want to be more focused and walk through, and
you want everybody to be in an alignment and not
joking around all the time whatever. But that means we're
robots at that point, right, So you know that there's
gonna be some people that's kind.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Of like, all right, they're distracted, like bring them back in.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
But when you've looked, when you've lost three in a row,
and when you keep having like penalties, and when you
keep having pre snap alignment penalties, like, that's when we
just got to be able to all make sure that
we're buying in to be able to get it cleaned up,
myself included. And so if we can do that at
the beginning of practice or and walk through, it's amazing
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some of the stuff that gets like wiped away in practice, right,
And then once you get into the game, then it's
like all right, like Pete used to say, all right, guys,
we're a top three in penalties.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Can we just get it to fifteen? Can we just
be somewhere in the you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
So it gets to like if we can wipe out
two or three, like, cause we're already like fifteen, we're
already in the middle. So like you know, even with Mike,
it's like, if we can knock out some of these penalties,
we'll go from we won't go from second and three
to second and thirteen or the second and three to
second and eight. Like those are the things I think
that shoot us in the foot as an offense to
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where now we're getting in this passing downs where defenses
are like we know they're about to pass the ball.
But if we can be able to stay in the
second and three second and force it allows us to
be able to utilize and run anything in a playbook.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, I mean, and and it just seemed like especially
your first three games, obviously the opponents were different, but
there was more balance to the scheme. You know. Obviously
they were giving K nine the ball, then he got
banged up, and then you brought Charbonne in and they
tried to run him. But you can't run him as
much as Knine because you've got nobody after him really
to run that they truly trust in that way. So
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I think that changed a lot of things offensively, And
when you're throwing it forty times. Aga. It's great for
a receiver, but I'm sure that offensive line is sitting
there like hey, Bell had to run it a few times. Now,
we'd be perfectly fine and just let us t off
once or twice because these dudes teeing off on us.
But I agree with you. I agree when you when
you lose three your your your margin for error is less,
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which means your ability to have fun and to joke
around and to be as loose diminishes. But as a team,
you lose the margin for error, and you gotta just
lock in, at least for a little while, get yourself
back on track. You guys got a stretch right now, Atlanta.
You guys go to Atlanta, you play Buffalo at home.
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You got the Rams. That's a that's a pretty good
stretch and it can go either way. You got a
bye week after that, then you got the Niners again
in San Francisco. So that's a stretch that can be
season defining. As you know in all your years that
this game, you know, you go through street. It's the
striaty league, right if you get you get hot at
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the right time, and you got the quarterback, you got
the offense. Schematically, it looks good. You're getting healthier. I
don't know when Abe Lucas is coming back, but when
you get that right tackle kind of more secured, and
you know, things can happen throughout the season. Biron Murphy
comes back. I'm sure Ric will come back soon. You're
getting healthier, You're getting better, so it is just a
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time for everybody to lock in and be back on it.
I like what Mike said, you know, he takes a
lot of responsibility for what happens, you know, with this team,
but as you know, it's the players lead, you know.
I ain't seen the coach go out there and catch
pass or throw throw one. Yet.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, everything goes as far as we wanted to go.
And I think, you know, even as I got into
the league, I think the biggest thing that you learn
is the teams that are always going to stick around
the longest, are the teams that are willing to buy
you in longer than everybody else. And with all the
distractions and with all the things that, like you know,
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we as athletes face within playing in the league, it's like,
how well can you be able to balance that out?
How well can you be able to continue to buy
in day in and day out so that we can
be able to achieve this ultimate goal that we all
want to be able to achieve, because there's gonna be
so many things that's going to take us away from
what it is that we want, and it's gonna be
so many moments and even like when you lose, like
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I understand people say, you know, when you lose, like
you know, you didn't lose if you learn from it,
And I mean, I agree with that, but you also
got to be able to understand and like, all right,
learning just isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We gotta go out there and we gotta make it happen,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Like sometimes you know, sometimes you gotta be patient and
let things take place.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Other times you gotta go out there. You just gotta
take it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
And so I think for us, I think we're in
a really great position to be able to understand who
are we really as a team, you know what I mean? Like,
are we at this place where we're gonna mope around
or we're gonna point fingers? Are we at this place
where we like a three in a row that's it?
Like we could go out here in ball, like we
was close in all of these games for the most part.
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Like it's not like we couldn't have won that game,
but like, let's go out there and let's figure out,
like what can we do to be ahead of these
teams rather than trying to come back, Like what can
we do to be able to like maybe maybe we
start to control the ball a lot longer to work
now other teams don't have a chance to get their
offensive on the field.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It's like, however, we gotta go play those games.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Let's go be greater playing those games, because it feels
so much better coming in with a win than to
be able to sit here and you ain't won in
about a week and a half because we played you know,
three games and ten days, right right.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I mean. And it's also how your leaders approach it,
how your leaders talk to each other, How do your
leaders talk to the rest of the team, because that
has a big effect on how how they see things
and how they talk to each other. And that's what
I found out later in my career is like, hey,
when we start moping around and we start talking crazy,
then the young dude's gonna be looking at us and
they're gonna start moping and talking crazier and you're like, wait,
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why y'all talking crazy. It's like, well, we're watching you
and you're talking crazy. And so it's like when you
when you you know, it's unfair sometimes and it's like, oh,
you know, but two great You know, those who have
great power get great responsibility. And that's the responsibility that
comes with being in the league for a long time,
being a good player, being productive, getting paid a lot
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of money. Is that. Yeah, when you when you do something,
everybody else is gonna do it. So sometimes you got
to shut the hell up. Sometimes you gotta smile when
you don't want to smile. Sometimes you got to do
work you don't want to do. You gotta have conversations
you don't want to have because that's the way it is.
And when you're losing, you have to somehow be optimistic
and show people, hey, there's hope, there's fine, we good,
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We're gonna do it. But we do got to tighten up.
We got to tighten this stuff up, and we got
to tighten it up every single day and every single way,
every single person defensively offensive. We're not gonna point the
finger at nobody. We just gonna keep going in the
same direction. But we got to tighten up. You gotta
care more. You gotta care more. I gotta care more,
and we got to put it on tape. And I
think that's gonna happen for you guys. I look forward
to seeing your game against Atlanta, and Atlanta that's a
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that's a good matchup, a good chance to bounce back.
You know, they've had some good games, They've struggled some
in some of these games. With Kirk coming back, obviously
they're coming off a win. But I think that's a
really really fun matchup in a team a game y'all
will win. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
No, I first off, that's spoken like a two, spoken
like a true coach, all the stuff that you said, man,
And I mean, I think Atlanta is a really good team.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Obviously, you know they're foreign two.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
They've done a great job and being able to position
themselves and I mean they you know, they were at
a place where they almost be the chiefs as well,
and so you know, for us, we just got to
come in and just do our part. Like you said,
it's crazy, bro, because when you think about it, there's
so many life lessons you learn through football to where
it's like you go from there and then you take
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it to life and.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
People be like how you let stuff go so much?
Speaker 4 (41:35):
And you like you just learn over time, Like you
drop enough footballs, you got to learn how to be
able to let it go, you know what I mean.
Like sometimes like moments matter more than others, but you
start to realize that not every moment is bigger than
the other, and so it's kind of cool, bro, like
the stuff that we learn.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
There's more that you learn just with.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
Playing sports than you do in life, because sometimes in
life you don't get thrown all those like adversity moments
and stuff like that right away. Like every day we're practice,
and it's like in the league, you gotta if you
want to play, you gotta practice, and if you can't
perform when you're practicing, then you're not gonna play. And
so you go through so many ups and downs just
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in practice, right Like you always think that if I'm
one hundred percent, I could show my best, like people
don't see me, but nobody's playing at one hundred percent.
Like at some point you got these nagging injuries and
stuff like this, and you still gotta go play and
people might not know anything about it or whatever, but
you still got to perform at the highest level because
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you know.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
That you're always being evaluated every single time you.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Touch that field. Understand this. Understand this because there's, like
you just said, there's so many carryovers and things that
apply from sports to real life. But being a father
is so much like football because really, because because your
wife doesn't care, your kids don't care. You had a
bad day, You're not feeling good, your chest hurts, your
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back hurts, like your your can't die. Whatever. They expect
Dad to steady the ship. Yeah, Dad has to steady
the ship. Dad has gotta Dad's having a good day.
That's okay. That's and I know you've probably seen these
memes and and and videos and stuff on social media
of like, hey, no matter what, dad gotta show up.
Dad is gonna make it happen. Taska, Like, you won't
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truly understand that until you become a dad and you
realize they don't care how you're doing. Nobody's gonna asks you, Hey, Tyler,
you're doing it all right? Hey baby? You you might
you my wife might like I'm not saying anything about
it about hurt, but you might only get a card
for Christmas most years Father's Day that it's not gonna
be a big celebration like it is Mother's Day, birthdays.
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You're gonna feel like I'm pouring so much into everybody
and nobody poured into me. So what your dad? Show up?
Be there, stabilize this ship, make sure we are right,
make sure the roof is over our head, make sure
everybody else. That's part of being that. And so when
it comes to football, nobody cares if you're hurt. Did
you did you strap them up? Did you lace them up?
(44:08):
Than you one hundred percent? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Bro, you know what, I just realized, we're in here
twenty twenty four, right. I got married in twenty twenty three.
There's a lot of twenty twenty three. I'm so caught
up in this being a twenty twenty five season. So
boy that hey, life of a football.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Player it's in seasons.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Hey, I'm gonna start just saying July fifteen.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
There you go, there you go, there you go. Hey,
do not forget that. Do not forget that. I'm gonna
let you know something, repeat that, do not forget that.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I don't look I remember that date. I just boy,
I thought I was thinking July. I'm thinking we're in
twenty twenty five right now.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
That's how I am.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
But bro my own.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
You know the other thing that I've learned too, just
what being able to play is when you start trying
to do stuff outside of you know, your sport. Like
for me, like how I've gotten into like the real
estate business. It's like you got to get past these
thoughts of all right, if I don't play well, they
gonna they're gonna blame this, you know what I'm saying.
(45:26):
Like you start like especially like how we talk about
social media. Fans are like why don't you just go
sell houses or whatever the case is. But like when
I when I think about like being able to get
into the real estate stuff, it's like I encourage anybody
if you got stuff that you want to be able
to do, do it while you're playing because you have
so much access, You have so much opportunities to be
(45:48):
able to network with everybody, so that when you're done playing,
you're not trying to lay the foundation from scratch.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
You're actually like at a point where you've laid the foundation.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
You did everything break by break, and now it's growing
to where people would just come to you and be like, hey, man,
can you sell the house? Can you be able to
help me buy this commercial property or whatever the case is.
But when you wait and you don't do anything but
just enjoy the lifestyle, right or just enjoy football. It's like, Okay,
let's say you play for five years. Well, if you
(46:24):
were in college for four years, you wasted nine years
of no network because all these kids are coming out
of college and they got a network for those four
or five six years that they are in school. But
if you didn't do no networking in college and then
you're in the league and you didn't take advantage of
any networking there, now whenever.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
It's like hey, hey, mo Kelly, can you help me? Sorry, man,
you ain't got access to the Seahawks no more, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
I wish that a lot of guys would take advantage
of being able to start whatever it is that they're
trying to do while they're playing. It doesn't have to
be in the scope of I'm doing it and going
hard at it's the same as I'm doing football, but
just get into.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
It to the point of where you don't have to
start from scratch.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Kid, it's it's I think it's scary for guys. I
think it's scary for guys because they feel like, especially
young guys, and I was that way. You feel like,
once you start to get there, you're you're you're you're
starting to enter football career, and so you're old enough
and wise enough to know that's not true. But when
you're young, you're like, Bro, if I take any focus
away from this that I work my whole life to
(47:29):
get to, then I'm doing myself a disservice. But as
you get older, you know, I can split focus. You
know what I mean, You're you're you're older. That's what's
gonna make you a good dad. Now. You know, when
you're young and your your dad, it's probably harder because
you can't split focus. You gotta be here or here
or here. Now, when you get older, you're like, all right,
I'm here, I'm here. I gotta be here too. I'm
(47:49):
watching you out of the corner of my eye. Hey,
get out of the toilet. Get out of that toilet. Yeah,
but but that's a you're a great example that it's possible,
and you don't understand that you're inspiring kid. It's to
be able to understand that they can do that. And
I tried to do that. I started my podcast my
last two years playing in the football National Football League,
and I was like, hey, I mean just what I
(48:10):
want to do after so I might as well start
now while I can get access to players. I'm talking
about relevant things and people are watching.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, I think you've done a great job with that, bro, Like,
because the crazy thing is when you retire is like
they say thank you and then guess what.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
You go back to the Richard Sherman that a lot
of people never knew. They just knew the Richard Sherman
had put on a helmet in New Jersey and played.
But when you put on a podcast, they always are
going to remember that name and they always are gonna
remember that face, and they don't have to say what
is he doing because it's like I see what he's doing.
I see he goes from doing this podcast now he's
(48:47):
with Amazon Thursday night, you know, getting ready for the
game and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I think the other person that does a great
job is Cam with New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Well even Cam Chancellor on with you know y'all got Legion,
but Jordan, Yeah, but even Cam Jordan, Like, I think
he does a great job. When you go to the
Super Bowl, he right there on the field talking and
doing all those types of things. So it's it's a
lot of players that are taking advantage of it and
that's doing the right thing. And you just hope that
(49:19):
you've done your part and not only being able to
show everybody, but being able to communicate that with the
upcoming generation because this generation different.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
It's like you never thought you say that, did.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
You, man?
Speaker 4 (49:34):
And you still find some people that can that could
have been able to like thrive in a generation you
know that you were in growing up. But with the
new generation, it's like you have to adapt the process.
You got to adapt to those conversations. You got to
be able to find different.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Ways to meet people where they at because you know,
when we got drafted, man, I was life changing money.
But now you look at like a lot of these
kids like to I'm just not life changing money because
the Niel deals, who's like changing money and so it's
just a different way.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But like to me, I always find like different unique
ways to try to connect with people because to me,
it's fun to be able to try to do those things.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, it's it's we're in a different world and everybody
got to adapt. Then the game gotta adapt players. It's
gonna be guys that come in and say I'm not
going to that team. I didn't made enough money to
say no, I'll walk. I'll sit out another year and
wait to come back if y'all don't trade me today.
That's what we're gonna get to that day and age.
And it's fine. I think coaches are gonna have to adapt.
I think teams are gonna have to adapt to like
(50:39):
these coaches. And that's why you're seeing younger and younger
coaches get hired and coaches that are look a lot
different than the guys used to used to say other
than Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell looks like an old school
football coach. But outside of Dan Campbell, you see younger
you know, guys that are like nerdy, guys that are
likely analytics, guys who really can tell you draw up
plays and understand how this is affecting the defense or
(51:01):
this is affecting the offense. And that's what the game
is adapting to. But it's because the kids are adapting too.
The kids are changing and you're you're seeing these young quarterbacks,
you know, come out with a lot more prepared or
a lot less prepared. And when when they're that, when
they're not prepared, then you've got to have the coordinator
to put them into positions to be successful. You got
to say, hey, coordinator, you got to draw up the
(51:22):
scheme to put these guys in position. They're not reading
the defense like you want them to see it. Cool,
now it's just different. You got to adapt and the
games adapting. And I think that's a big reason the
points are down and things like that, because they're trying
to play all these young quarterbacks that aren't necessarily ready
to play, but they have to play anyway. And so
now scheme's got to be designed to make the game
simple and easy for him. And these defenses are getting
(51:44):
harder to read. Mike's defense is tough. It's tough to see.
If you're not seeing that defense every day and the
complicated looks and how they're disguising stuff, then the moment
you see it, you're gonna be like, wait a minute,
way was that two? Three? Was that a fire zone weight?
Did they cover him with the safety weight? How did
he try that? And so but I like it and
I appreciate what the game is becoming. I appreciate you
(52:07):
know how you well you're playing and adapting to the
environment that you're in. And I think you guys are
gonna be fine. I look forward to seeing you guys.
I got you guys in the playoffs this year. So
fingers crossed. Everything got a goal like it needs to go.
So you do your part, and I'm gonna keep cheering
from my side.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Is that a parlay?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Don't worry about don't worry about all that. Don't worry
about what I got going on.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Hey man, it's crazy. You get the bet down and
we used to gotta go play.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
Hey, you want to play? I ain't playing.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Hey, I got one more question for you, broh. Would
you ever be if you had to be one of
the three? Would you be an agent? Would you be
a GM or would you be a head coach in
the league.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Oh, that's a good question. Agent is no, So it's
either GM or head coach. I'd be I'd be a GM.
I want to put the team together. I don't think
I want to necessarily deal with the headache of all
the nonsense. I want to run the team, put the
guys in place and put the personnel in place and
(53:11):
see the culture develop and know that I picked the
right people for the job. I think I'd be better
at that job than a head coach. I think a
head coach, I'd be fine, but I'd be tough. You
know what I mean. It'd be tough. It'd be a
tough job to do it. It's a tough balancing act
because I played for certain kind of a head coaches,
So I couldn't be too hard on the guys because
(53:31):
I played for Pete, I said, on mine and play
for balance Jack. I played for Pete, and Pete's as
relaxed of a head coach as you're gonna ever find.
But he does want things out of his player. He
requires certain things. It's still cut throat business, but he's
just not cutting throats. He's letting everybody cut each other's throats. Hey, y'all,
get out there. I'm gonna roll the ball out best
man plays. If I gotta cut you, you're gonna see
(53:52):
it every day in tape. You're gonna see I showed
you to one on ones every day. So you know
why you got cut. Your teammates know why you got cut.
It's not a surprise, so you would have that aspect.
I don't agree with conditioning tests and stuff like that,
so I wouldn't run my team into the ground. I
would practice a lot of them out that the tempo
would be up all the time. So it just be
certain things that I'd be like, I don't know. I
(54:13):
probably enjoyed that space, but I think I'd enjoy putting
the team together more. That's a good question.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Yeah, Well, I love to see it, Bro, because I
do think that you're one of the most sophisticated people
in the game of football, and whether it's a GM
and the team together.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Hey man, when I'm out that league, call me.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
I'm calling you, come coach, Come coach my receivers or
coordinate my offense.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
No, I ain't saying I'll go home.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
I said, hey, Sharon, I gotta be here right right now.
But I love to see it, Bro, because I do
think that you would be like a great coach, like
like I'm not comparing you to like Dion. I think
Dion is a great coach as well, but I think
you could bring that same type of like activity, you
know what I mean. Like we love watching Colorado play,
(55:03):
Like obviously I had to go to the other side
because they was playing k State. But you see, you
see something different, like the aura is different, Like you
got celebrities going there, and you know, with Dion being
able to be successful there, it gives us an opportunity
to enter these spaces a lot more faster than although, okay,
we got to go through a ga job and we
(55:24):
gotta be some type of position coach first and then
an OC.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
So I definitely do see like you being able to
get an opportunity like that.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
A lot faster than other people having to go through
the proper channels just to be able to get there.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Right right. I appreciate that. Yeah, I think I look
forward to to exploring that place once I'm done with
the media space. But I'm in the media space right
now and I'm enjoying that. But I notice you're all day,
and I'm gonna let you go enjoy yourself and take
care of your old body. I appreciate you coming on,
no problem.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's a bonus Monday, brother, all.
Speaker 3 (55:59):
Right, right, don't yeah, Yeah, y'all got their big weekend.
I appreciate you, brother, all right, man, I love you, bro,
love you too. I got to call the wife back
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