October 21, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin credits the Chiefs for always finding a way to win games despite their sluggish offensive output so far
He gives his reasons why he feels the Lions are the second best team in the NFL
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go on a Monday. We are stacked
live in Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series facing
the New York Yankees. It's The Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. Jmack, it was a moment
in time, a moment Brod party to go toe to
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toe with Patrick Mahomes. It did not, It did not
transpire the way you are hoping for.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So I'm thank you for making me laugh to start
the show, because there's gonna be a lot of tears.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, it is official. Kyle Shanahan now zero to five
against Andy Reid. It's official. Number one. Kansas City is
the best team in the league, maybe by a lot.
Number two. They're easily the most resourceful team in the league.
Everybody has injuries, doesn't affect them at all. And number three,
Andy Reid is separated from even the other good coaches.
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Kyle Shanahan's special teams annual embarrassment, Kyle Shanahan's red zone
offense totally dependent appears on Christian McCaffrey. Shanahan's a very
good coach, but in high leverage situations, he doesn't have
the adaptability the ingenuity of Andy Reid. Kyle Shanahan has
a very good system that's excellent with Christian McCaffrey. You
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take out that player a running back, and even when
their backup running back is good, it's not the same
team Andy Reid. Hey put Carson Wentz in the backfield
with Mahomes, that'll get them again. Both teams were missing
a star running back. Both teams were missing collection of receivers.
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Neither quarterback played their best game ever. Offensive lines for
both Kansas City and forty nine Ers. Okay, but in
every single high leverage situation, Mahomes in Kansas City up here,
pretty Shanahan down there. Now, you could say to yourself,
Colin that come on, don't be naive. This is all Mahomes. Okay,
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let's say it is. That's even worse news for San Francisco.
You're gonna give the bag to brock Party. Brock Party,
let's please contectual. Good quarterback, but when he's missing pieces
the red zone offense man, you know, his two big
completions both underthrown. Thankfully Tom Brady called it out. This
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is what I've consistently said about brock Purty. He's a
good quarterback with nice mobility, but he was just eight
for eighteen missing deebo Iyuk may be gone now eight
for eighteen on throws just five yards downfield with three picks.
That's what he was. Yes, he was missing Debo and
Mahomes has been missing. Rashi Rice Well, I mean I Yuk,
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Yes Ayuk dropped a ball and then left later. Look
at what Kansas City's been doing for three years at
wide receiver ham An egging it, just trying to find
anybody Juju Smith, have him, lose him, bring him back,
gets hurt. That's the story of the Chiefs for three years,
just trying to make it work, Bondo band aids, whatever works.
So I think brock Purty is overwhelmingly although I think
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he's got some talent. He has been the beneficiary of
a good coach with a great system and a collection
of Hall of Fame level George Kittle, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey.
Take those out and there's almost no extraordinary to brock
Purty size arm movement.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yet in all those situations, when you remove all of those,
Purty and Mahomes are asked to do two different things.
Perty is asked in San Francisco, don't screw up. Here's
the keys to the Mercedes. Don't screw up. That's what
he's asked to do. Purdy is six and eight in
games in which he's just had one one turnover. Mahomes
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is asked to carry a franchise, get rid of Tyreek Hill,
move off great players, average offensive tackles. Can you be
magical when we don't have all the resources we had
to start the year, start the dynasty, or start the game.
These are two different asks. One is the best quarterback
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on the planet, regardless of who's around him. One does
a good job when everything's in place. And that's what
I've said about this. Just contextualize. You give most quarterbacks
in this league time to throw number one receiver, excellent
offensive line, they're gonna look good what Mahomes did yesterday
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on a game in which he didn't play that well.
He just in the highest moments. I mean, yesterday was
a referendum on head coaching at the highest level, quarterbacking
at the highest level. Mahomes and Purty. I mean, you
may not want to hear this, but I mean, even
on that bruising touchdown run, it's just Mahomes off script
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on script. It doesn't matter. He always makes the play.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I actually was not trying to like lower my shoulder.
I was trying to like absorb the hit. I know
I was gonna be right in the right there in
the end zone, and that Dad bod Man just had
enough weight on me where he went down. So it
wasn't like I was initially trying to like seek out contact.
I was trying to absorb it and getting the end
zone and just ended up looking good for me.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I've just watched this matchup too many times and I
keep seeing the same exact thing every time. Mahomes is
magical in crisis. Party needs everything to be in place.
Shanahan has a really good system. Their special teams are
annually cringey, and Kansas City's more resourceful Both these teams
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were missing all sorts of players. One kind of capsized,
the other elevated. And that's what I've watched now five
straight times. All Right, let's talk about the second best
team in the league, and I think it's pretty substantial
and clear. It's Detroit. That was not an easy game
at Minnesota. Minnesota has engulf good teams, and the Lions
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may never get their defense right. They've been trying for years.
The minute they get it right, that horrible injury to
Aiden Hutchison, right, But quarterback o line, run game, clever,
offensive coordinator, power, finesse culture, there are no weakness that offense.
I mean, Jared Goff essentially looks like he's playing catch
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with his friends. In his last three games, Jared Goff's
completing eighty five percent of his throws with one hundred
and fifty three passer rating. It is a video game.
And remember Minnesota's defense, especially at home with that crowd noise,
is ferocious, is outstanding. He had three incompletions against them. CJ. Stroud,
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brock Purdy, I've never seen anything like this defense. I
was seeing ghosts. Jared Goff's playing catch. It almost feels
like as we head into Week eight Chiefs Lions Super Bowl,
it's kind of starting to feel inevitable. You don't have
to reach for the narrative or grasp for a story.
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I mean, Detroit's offense in an offensive league. Here's what
I also love is that there's this collective chip on
the shoulder with Detroit. I mean, Goff was cast off
in LA Get out of Here, and then Dan Campbell
has been mocked and the city of Detroit for years
has been a punchline and Detroit has taken that and
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built this muscle car from different parts. It's got mad
maxfield to it. And they are head coach GM offensive
line tackles everything. They are a knee cap biting monster.
They are just the team. And Minnesota's really good. Minnesota's
got a brilliant defensive coordinator. Jared Goff had three incompletions.
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So I mean, what I loved about this game for Detroit.
Detroit trailed on the road, and then Detroit led, and
then they trailed again, and then they came back, and
then they had to hold off a more than capable
Sam Darnold Viking offense. It's the kind of game you
see in January and February. All these routes are fun,
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but what you watch with Detroit and Minnesota, that feels
like the NFC Championship and you're on the road and
you trail early and the crowd is humming and you
can't hear, and you just start running the football and
you take a lead, then you fall behind, and then
you rally and take the lead again and hold on.
That looked like a playoff game. I feel like with Detroit,
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I'm watching this sort of adolescent boy, and every couple
months his voice gets deeper, he's got more confidence, few pimples,
you know. But then he walks out when morning and
mom looks up and he's six five, two forty five
and has a D one scholarship offer to Ohio State
or Michigan. It just they just looked the part power, finesse,
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run game, effortless completions, win leading, comeback when trailing. I
don't see anything about Detroit. I don't like. I just
seen it for years from Kansas City. I've never seen
it before from Detroit. This year was going to be
an interesting year for the Lions. Instead of hunting, they
were the hunted. They're fine, They're fine being the hunted.
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Here's Dan Campbell after you guys.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Didn't bat an eye. I love this freaking team. I
love the toaches, I love the players, I love everything
about it. Man, we are so freaking hardened even when
she doesn't go the way we want it to. Man,
you find a way that is an outstanding. We are
one to zero in the division.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That was something else. That that was Sometimes you get
these in the regular season. You'll see it in the NBA.
You get that handful of games. You're like, oh, that's
a playoff game, that's a conference final. That felt like
an NFC conference championship game. And Detroit goes into Minnesota
with the defensive coordinator Brian Florik Floris who had flummixed everybody,
and they just rattling off drive after drive, clever, smart,
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physical power. That was something j mac Detroit and Kansas City.
Now we pivot an exposa around the corner of what
the Jets and the Steelers delivered.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I I you know, I didn't see that game at all.
I didn't what happened.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I was watching baseball and you know, playing chess with
my children.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
How did the Jets do last night? I didn't catch
well it'd be.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Very easy to take to take the anvil and hammer
the Jets. But I will say this, that'd be very
that's like, you know, too easy. But Russell Wilson after
that first half, that second half by Russell Wilson, remember
Big Ben's like, you can't play him. The city, you
can't play them, the Pittsburgh media, you can't play them.
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And that first half of Russell was not pretty. But
we'll talk about Russell and the Steelers and that offense.
I got the data this morning. It's a little uncomfortable.
Another quarterback in the AFC that may be better than
Aaron Rodgers stock Come on.
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
It was interesting watching the Steelers and the Jets. I
really thought the Jets were going to win this game.
A very good two and four team, and I've been
as critical as anybody on Pittsburgh sort of tone deaf
to offense. But I'm gonna say this slowly. This will
be viewed by j Mack his controversial data that it
appears there's another AFC quarterback better than Aaron Rodgers since
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the start of twenty twenty two. Both Aaron and Russell
played on two different teams in that time. Maligne, Russell
Wilson has a better passer rating, thrown for more yards
per game, and a better TV interception ratio. Yes, Russell
Wilson is corny and goes to bed in his uniform
and practices high fives and has cheesy slogans. But you know,
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I'm watching the Steelers last night with Russell Wilson. Think
about this defensive coach, power run game, very good at
home pass rush. How'es this sound? Seattle steel Seahawks light.
I know, I know that's a little over the top
because Russell's no longer in his prime. But if you recall,
Russell was not terrible last year. He had a ninety
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eight passer rating in Denver. The Broncos defense was atrocious.
But the Steeters are four and two, a super Bowl
winning coach, an excellent defense, a power run game, and
I thought Russell Wilson settled the offense down. Nobody in
Pittsburgh thought he should start. Big Ben the legend, said
what are we doing here? Nobody thought it would look
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like that, And by the way those people were all right.
In the first quarter, it was ugly, But then then
the Russell Wilson you saw in Denver last year ninety
eight passer rating, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks in the
last three quarters, hit one hundred and twenty six passer rating.
He didn't turn the ball over. He hitt in a
couple of big throws. He's always been Russell Wilson, frankly,
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has always been pretty good in the red zone. Even
in Denver last year. He's pretty good in the red
zone because of his movement. He's good on stuff. When
he can roll out to the side, get clear vision
on a defined look, that's when he's at his best.
He is good in the red zone. So, yes, he
got booed after the first three drives, and I didn't
think it would look like that. But you know what,
he's not throwing teammates under the bus, unlike the Jets.
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He's good in the red zone. His cadence, the quarterback,
sneaks the high leverage moments. It looked the part. There
were two people in Pittsburgh outside of Russell Wilson, who
thought he could do that last night, Sierra and Russell
Wilson's coach, Mike Tomlin, that's it. Maybe those three people
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could thought it could look like that. I didn't. And
after the first three drives, I thought I looked really smart.
But then I'm watching Aaron and the moods and the
eye rolling, and I'm watching Russell's movement and red zone excellence. Yes,
he's very good in the red zone, something San Francisco's not.
And the quarterback sneaks and the cadence and the throw
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over the shoulder to Pickens. Here's Mike Tomlin after.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Your boldest decisions to go with three.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That's why I'm well compensated.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean Mike Tomlin made the call. Nobody bought
into it. We all looked right for the first quarter,
but after that a lot of off script stuff. You
could watch Tomlin. He was rooting for Russell. Go back
to the Denver year last year. Again, Russell's not for everybody.
He doesn't necessarily galvanize teammates. George Pickens looked happy. Well,
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we have five catches over one hundred yards. George Pickens
looked happy. The run game looked powerful. They just looked credible.
They had their footing under them. They've got Arthur Smith
as a veteran offensive coordinator. They just look settled. I mean,
that's the most points Pittsburgh has scored and how many years.
J Mack with the.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
News turns this is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
All right, let's start with the World Series. Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We're getting what we've been asking for. Dodgers Yankees. It's
all set. Dodgers tick down the Mets ten to five
last night in Game six to.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Clinch their first World Series berth since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
L I scored forty six runs in the NLCS, fourth
most in a postseason series all time. Here's Joe Davis
with the final out.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
There's a box seatball a second, Taylor's got it when
Los Angeles was alive, and there's headed to the World Series.
Dodgers Yankees in the Fall Classic.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, it's amazing. Tommy Edmonds is in the center
now he's in short key k Hernandez, I mean, they
are it is. I don't think unless you follow the
Dodgers are a big baseball fan. They have an entire
pitching staff in bullpen on the shelf, and they just
manufacture runs. They have to have, you know, bullpen games now,
you have to basically throw a bullpen games.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'd like to work against the Mets and see if
it works against the Yankees. Colin, this is very exciting
match and personally I'm a little surprised though Tony didn't
win MVP. They went with Edmund who had a great NLCS.
But Otani was just so unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Mookie Betts Lookie.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Bett's good like the Bets are strong for the Dodgers.
This series is gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
LA's fourth World Series appearance in the last eight seasons.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
This is the Yankees in over first and over a decade.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And Dave Roberts Dodger manager, Aaron Boone Yankee manager.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
If you would have.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Polled fans after last year, they would have both voted
to get rid of the manager. But both the Dodgers
and the Yankees, unlike the Jets or the Mets, they
don't listen to the outside noise in these major media markets.
Head down few additives again, Yankees, Cashman Boone, Dodgers have
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had everybody in that organization, feels like, from vice presidents
to presidents, to owners to Dave Roberts. Dodgers don't listen
to outside noise. Very easy too. You have powerful media
forces out here and out east. But it's a Yankees
Dodgers and it feels right. I mean, we kind of
it once the playoffs started and it was the Yankees
against the American League Central kind of like historically they
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just roll over those teams. It's the first time these
two have met in forty three years in the World Series,
and I have I can conjure up I can conjure
up that World Series back like seventies eighties. I can
think of a couple of the players, but it was
they were big brands back then and they're bigger brands now.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So World Series Game one Yankees Dodgers coverage begins Friday's
seven easternn Fox.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh, you gonna rank the top ten players because I'm very.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Curious, like this seems like a toss up, like a
literal coin toss in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know, Well, I think the Dodgers would healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Have well no, no, they're not healthy though.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean the Dodgers have second level players like Key
k Hernandez or a Max Muncy who are not like
the stars max if I said Mac Munsey. Max Munsey
has four home runs in the World Series. You wouldn't
be surprised at all their second tier guys. If I
told you Aaron Judge had three home runs in max months,
A four and.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Juan so six. Come on like it. I'm very excited
for this. Do you have Are you gonna do? Like
the rank the top ten players? I think you should.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I feel like it's Dodgers in six or seven. But
you know it's all gonna come down obviously, high leverage
pitching moments. That's what it's gonna come down to. Yeah,
seventh inning, two on, two out, That's what it's gonna come.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The star power in the series is.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm gonna tell you who's really happy upstairs? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Are they? They're interested in?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, I mean Guardians Podreys. Although it could have been compelling,
doesn't feel like Yankees Dodgers certainly.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
All right, let's go to the NFL where your guy
Jordan Love. Man, this guy just keeps delivering in big spots.
How about the walk off field goal win for the Packers?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Jordan Loved He threw a couple of bad interceptions but
ultimately delivered, and he discussed his mentality on that final
drive after the game.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That's one of the biggest areas that we tried to
improve on from last year. I think we came up
short too many times last year in these two minute
drill situations go in the game, and so we've definitely
put a lot of time into it. In practice. You
can't try and you know, not be aggressive and just
take checkdowns all day. You got to be out there
and be aggressive and go win those games.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I will say this, that team is so joyful to watch.
Watch the sideline of the Packers once they got got
rid of Grumpy, when they got rid of Grumpy who
went to New York with the Jets. Yeah, watch Green
Bay play. Now they're generationally, they're all feel like they're
twenty three to twenty seven years old. That offense is
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so filthy talented. Have they missed on an offensive draft
pick in the last three years?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Everything works, even Powdy Romeo Dobbs seemed to get his
act together.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Watson the tight ends, Craft, musk Grave, everything works.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I know it's all about the pas Colin Texans were.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Not good at football.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Well did you if you notice this? Like so, they
were bad. This week we talked about it. I said,
loves better than c J. Stroud. This was a great example.
Look at what Lafleur, Matt Lafleur is willing to allow
Jordan Love to do. I felt like Demiko Ryans was
keeping c. J. Stroud in kind of a box on
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the attempts. And I mean, Matt Lafleur is like, bro,
I'm gonna let you do a little far off here
and throw ugly picks. Matt Lafleur is like Andy Reid
with Mahomes, I'm gonna let you do whatever you want.
The ultimate sign of respect and trust is when quarterbacks,
like in a game like that against Demiko Ryan's defense,
Matt Lafleur is like, hey, we had a pick, let's go.
They let They are totally absolutely confident in Jordan Love.
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He is much more I think he's much more far
than Rogers. He's a more galvanizing personality, he's more likable.
He's a little off script. He can throw some ugly ones,
but so can Holmes and Allen. He he can throw
some ugly ones, but wait, he's got magic stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I just I'm a little concerned about Stroud. No Nicocollins, Colin,
are you ready for the C. J.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Stroud line? Yesterday? In a big game against the Packers.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He was ten for twenty one for eighty six yards.
They're keeping six yards passing. No, they're keeping him in
a bare It's like eight and O'Connell. If Aaron Rodgers
did that, it would be defcon won.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
In New York, C J.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Stroud had eighty six yards passing. They almost won the game,
but they couldn't move the football. No drive longer than
fifty five yards.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yesterday coals Also they elected for a field goal late.
You know, the defensive coach elected for a field goal.
My take is green Bay in that spot would have
gone probably gone for it. I think Houston and Green
Bay are kind of the same team. I don't think
they're quite ready to win a Super Bowl quite. Maybe
I'm wrong quite, but it's close. But after that game
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with Green Bay and what they're willing to allow Jordan
Love to do, I mean, they just they're like, kid,
go do your thing. And that's that says a lot
about what Green Bay institutionally thinks of him.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Love tied for the league leading interceptions with Patrick Mahomes
by the way and Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But nobody cares about for the record, Joe Mixon did
have a good run day, so Houston was much more
reliant on their run game.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah yeah, no, mix of mixing was excellent. But they
three point four yards per play.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
This was like New York Giants football. That's bad.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Final story caling college football. How about the scene Saturday
in Austin. Absolute shocker. Georgia pulls off the upset. But
this happened.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You've seen this on the screen, this alleged.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Holding there late third quarter, Texas was down fifteen.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Another bad Carson Beck pick.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's intercepted, but there was a flag on the play
and called for PI. Fans got crazy through stuff on
the field. See all these bottles on the field. So
then the referees huddled and changed the call and said
we're picking up the flag. It's an interception. Kirby Smart
loses his mind. Here's what his thought was after the game.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
I will say that now we've set a precedent that
if you throw a bunch of stuff on the field
and in danger athletes, that you've got a chance to
get your call reversed. And that's unfortunate because to me,
that's dangerous. That's not what we want, and that's not
criticizing officials. That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's one hundred percent right cohing this isn't bad. Like listen,
First of all, the flag was stupid. It didn't look
like PI. But to change it after people complained, I
don't know that's as bad. But by the way, these
Georgia Bulldogs, that defense dominated everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now, it's funny when Oregon beat Ohio State, Ohio State
didn't have a stinker. They played very, very well and
they lost. Yeah, Texas has a stinker, Georgia has a stinker,
Bama has won, Tennessee has what. Everybody out there except
Ohio State. I mean even Oregon when they beat Boise
State in Idaho looked awful. Ohio State's the only team
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that I've watched and I'm like, I'm not I'm telling
you that Oregon lost. Nobody in the country's win in
that game. Nobody's winning that. Georgia's winning that game. So
it's like Ohio State and the other thing. We're all
defend Texas if you were gonna lose, because we all
know that Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon, they're all making
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the playoff.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
You didn't mention al I don't know if they're.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not, they're they're real loose. But to the other team,
if you're gonna lose in your Texas, what you wouldn't
want to do is lose in overtime and you think
to yourself, you know what it is. You got your
butt kicked at home and pushed around, so you're gonna
face Georgia. The chance of facing Georgia again or probably
fifty percent. This is the way to lose with a
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twelve team playoff. We've seen this in the NFL for
years and years. If you're gonna lose, get humiliated. It's
amazing how that lingers for two and a half months.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Motivation.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's the way you gotta lose. Like Ohio State plays
Oregon again, I think they would beat them, but that
was a go either way game. You can talk yourself
into a lot of psychologies.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
There so two other things. Carson Beck, I'm sorry he
is not the dude.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, he's not a first round quin.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
He can't throw the ball down the field. He has
any confidence.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's I text somebody over the weekend. He feels like
a top of the third round pick.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, he could be end up being rock Oswilder something.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But the other thing is you referenced last week Texas
was like the new epicenter of college football.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Did you see how many celebrities were on hands for
this game? Like they almost overdid it?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh they did, and you know your boys. Sark is
going around shaking Joe Rogan's hand, Hey, k D, what's up? Like, hey,
can you lock in on the game? Hanging out with
McConaughey and the other guy from the Tom Cruise movie.
It's like it just felt like they were not locked in.
They're like, hey, look at all this exciting stuff happening
in Austin.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, at halftime, it was not all right, all right,
all right? It was it was they got pushed around.
That's what happened. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's funny to watch college football fans now. Everybody's getting
all definitive and all these refoms. It doesn't matter. We
got a twelve team playoffs like basketball, we got March
we crushed you see in two months, GEORGIEA and Texas
CEE in two months. I'd rather be Texas getting humiliated
pushed around. I'd rather be Texas in two months than Georgia.
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Try to motivate your players when you already you already
won the first fight, first round knockout. So to me
is everybody's You know, college football has always been so
territorial and tribal and punitive, and this means that, and
that means none of that means anything. You're all playing
again and descender and we all know George is gonna
make the playoff and Texas will Alabama, shode Ohio State
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will Oregon. Well we all know who's in it. And
that doesn't lessen the fun for me. I can't wait
for December. But this game, this is the first iteration
of it. They're playing again. These kind of teams are
playing again, and so you know, you don't want to
empty the bag emotionally, physically, play calling in the first matchup.
That's why if the Chiefs lose next weekend, oh my god,
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the Chiefs lost, So what the playoff? Everybody? We always
understand in the NFL, like you have a bad Sunday.
I mean the Chiefs don't, but everybody has a bad Sunday.
In college football, even the good teams have a bad Saturday.
Won't matter. Be healthy ready, to play Focus Laser Focus
in December.
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Speaker 1 (28:36):
Well I said before the season, I thought the forty
nine ers had peaked as an organization. I did not
think they'd win a Super Bowl. And I feel like
they you know, they're the poker player that's been playing
full tilt for years and they and you know it.
It's they can still mop up on the guys in
the neighborhood, but when they play the top players, they've
been going full tilt for too long. They're beat up,
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they're old. I think Detroit is a younger, better version
of San Francisco. And I said that was my prediction
going into the season, is that the dynasties that last
in this league. You have a majority of your best
players at the right positions and in their prime. And
Deebo's banged up. He was sick yesterday and then I
had a drop and he was loud in the offseason.
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Perhaps now there's a there's an ACL problem this morning.
We'll wait for that. But I I if you look
at the great dynasties in the history of this league,
you can go back to Lombardi and Bart Starr and
Bradshaw and knowl you can go to you know, Aikman
and Jimmy Johnson and Montana and Bill Walsh, Brady Belichick,
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Mahomes reed. It's always about a legendary quarterback and a
top coach. Brock Perty's not legendary, and Kyle Shanahan increasingly
is a very good coach. But if you look at
Purty and Kyle Shanahan, you can't deny this. You take
out Yistian McCaffrey from those two, they're not very good
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in the red zone, not terribly adaptable, and completely limited
in the red zone. I mean, you take you take
any player you want, Tyreek Hill, Rashi, Rice, Isaiah Pacheco,
a right tackle. You can take anybody out of Kansas City.
They're still magic in the red zone because Andy is
more adaptable, clever. You take just Christian McCaffrey out of
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San Francisco and Purdy in Shanahan good, they're not special,
and so maybe when he comes back that changes everything,
But it also creates a real truth, is that Brock
Perdy in Kyle Shanahan and I like both. They're both good,
but they're kind of like McCaffrey dependent. Chiefs. Aren't Pacheco
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dependent or was she Rice dependent or tyreek Hill dependent.
I mean there are games when Travis Kelcey isn't around,
it didn't matter. So I mean, I've seen this thing
five times, and yesterday was really stark. It was in
Santa Clara. I mean, it's one thing if you're missing
players and you're at home, when you're on the road
and missing multiple stars, what does that tell you? And
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I never thought this game felt like Kansas City when
the Niners didn't buy into the fake punt and then
they got an early pick and they couldn't get any
points out of it, and you're looking first quarter, second quarter,
seven to three, Kansas City. You're like, you can't squander
opportunities like that. So increasingly Shanahan and Brock party are
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are very reliant on a guy that's not around, Christian McCaffrey.
They're a bad Red zone team without him, Kansas City
is a great red zone team regardless, as long as
Reid and Mahomes are there. Regardless. Here's Shanahan on brock
Perty's rough day.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You didn't do anything really good on offense. You know,
I know you'd love to have all three of those
picks back.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So I'm on broxt been playing unbelievable this year, done
some good things on offense this year, but today wasn't
that day?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
All right, I'd like to revisit the Steelers Jets tiff
last night. I will now attack it from the I
wanted to start with the Steelers positivity, a Russell Wilson thing.
First quarter, I'm like, I told you guys, last three quarters,
I'm like, what am I watching? Well? What am I watching?
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Russell Wilson's moving around and dancing. But you know, Aaron,
he got all his buddies here, right Like, he's got
all his buddies here, so he can't he can't blame
the team now. He's got everything he wants, got Davonde Adams,
he got the interim coach he you know, is his
play caller, buddy. He's got everything you wanted. You got
Alan Lazard. So we can't blame anybody, and it's I'll
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let you in a second, let you hear who he's blaming.
But you know what the Jets feel like now? They
feel like an NBA team where you kind of threw
a bunch of stuff together, like the Phoenix Suns, and
then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll figure out, we'll
figure out how to make it work somewhere, you know,
around Thanksgiving. Yeah, bruh, you're two and five. Now, schedule's easy,
got New England around the corner. But I mean, even
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just think about the Jets. Say this out loud, interim coach.
You're on your second offensive coordinator. You got two old
offensive linemen, a guard that can't stay healthy, a rookie tackle.
It's just a mismatch. It's a collection of talented players.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's not a team.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And what he Johnson thinks, prickly moody, forty year old
Aaron Rodgers, he can sew it all together. That's not him.
He's a front runner when times are good. Aaron is money.
He's never I mean before this week he had four
straight opportunities or three straight opportunities game winning drives. He
went zed three so Aaron's not the kind of guy
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to take a bunch of stuff and sew it all together.
That's not his personality. He's not a foxhole guy. He's
just gifted. And there are certain personalities of Peyton Manning's
like that. Mahomes is like that. He's one of the
guys can sew everything together when it's kind of unraveling.
That's not Aaron's personality. I mean, Aaron's always been sort
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of mister I'm above it all. I see the world differently.
I do my own research. Well, I'm doing my own research.
Aaron's not that good anymore. He was the second best
quarterback in that game. And by the way, you fired
the best coach on your staff. Have you noticed the
last two games the Jets aren't as good defensively they
let go of their best coach. So, I mean, I'm
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just I'm just telling you what I'm seeing. The offense
is better, But yesterday the motion went away. Last week
we got all this motion in the offense. Where did
it go? My guess, don't have this sourced. My guess
Aaron doesn't like motion. And Aaron told this new play caller,
you know what he told him. Let's let's bring the
motion back. Let's let's let's not do as much motion
as we did last week. I know the media all
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loves it. I don't like all that motion because Aaron
historically does not like motion. And Matt Lafleur with Aaron
found out he doesn't like motion, and Mike McCarthy found out.
And I think this new play caller put in some
mo And because Hackett was so devastatingly awful, Aaron listened
for a week back to last night. They didn't run
any motion because Aaron's like, hey, I gave you a
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game we didn't win. Let's cut down the motion. So
now you're just a pocket quarterback forty years old, doesn't
move a bunch of disparate parts. You're trying to sew
it all together. It just, I mean, they're all curb appeal.
That's what the Jets are. Reliability, Nope, structure weird. They
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have great curb appeal. And so who do you blame?
Here's aerin After.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
You get everybody that you could believe it seems like
a lot of the same stings.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Just stop listening to you, guys.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Number one, number two gotta be accountable, you know, I
gotta play better.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's the key.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So all these toys Aaron has, they got fifteen points,
they got fifteen points. The Steelers inserting a quarterback that
hasn't played in a long time, they got thirty seven.
So I mean, if you really look at the Jets offense,
as far as I can tell Jmack, I could be wrong.
The play that tends to work over and over is
just dump it off to Breece Hall and he makes
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people miss. That play works very very well. But there's
a little bit of fools gold. Now with Aaron, he's
more of an image and a logo than reality. He's
got a little nft to him. It's a little fools gold.
It's the people that are not as smart as they
think they are keep embracing Aaron in it. This is
a little nft. Where's the substance. I'm getting all sorts
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of talk. Where's the substance. I don't play into images
and logos. I want sustainability, I want production. He was
a second best quarterback in that game. I'm doing my
own research. He's just a pocket quarterback. The number one
play in the Jets offense is Aaron quickly dumps it
off to somebody else. Breeze Hall, terrific player who makes
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people miss. That's the offense. That's like play thirty eight
for the Chiefs. That's like play one for the Jets.
That's what I see.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Friend's family. A lot of people hitting me up.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Boy, Coward's gonna come after you for brock Perty and
the Jets.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You better strap in for Monday and Colin.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I gotta be honest, I'm dull to this Jets stuff
at this point.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I'm just I'm numb. They were up fifteen to six
in total control.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That control I think I texted you, this is the
best half they've had all season.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was two minute drill and Aaron throws in an interception,
an unbelievably stupid pass into as Mark Sanchez would say
a defensive backs meeting that the Steelers had at midfield,
there's four guys there.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Did that not reek to you of.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hey man, I already hit DeVante Adams, I got it
to Lizard. I got to force feed Garrett Wilson to
keep him happy. It felt like one of those passes
and the Jets never recovered from that interception the rest
of the game.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And listen, I this was my second favorite pick of
the week. Now, I really like this, so I'm gonna
start by saying it was pretty exciting if you're a
Steeler fan. The Steelers offense like power, run game, defense
got their feet under him. If you're Aaron Rodgers. Rich
Samini covers the Jets and he had said this yesterday
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on a tweet or a column that I was reading,
and he deserves props for this. This is just a
collection of talented guys. It's not a team. It's a
finger pointing high leverage mistakes. You just don't know what
you're getting. It's it's just a group. Remember when New
England was running the Dynasty, they used to have this sign.
You know, it's not about the talent, it's about the team.
It can't just be a collection of players. It's very
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NBA or it's high profile players, and we know they're talented,
but you never feel like their help defense is bad.
You know who takes the big shot. I don't know
what they are and when I watched them yesterday, I'm
like that second half was like I kind of felt
like the Steelers may have a ceiling, but they were
leaning into Tomlin defense, culture, run game, it's like the Steelers,
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I knew what they were even if it's limited. I'm
watching the Jets that I'm like, yeah, they make some
great plays. What are they.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Like you talked about us being like we're we have
good chemistry. You and I like, you're excited during this
show and afterwards you look at the Jets it they.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Don't look happy. I don't see shots on.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
The sideline of guys hanging out and so not a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Of that happening.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
And you know, the leader of the team's got to
be the quarterback. He's got to be the unifier. How
many years now have you said Rogers is his own dude,
he doesn't work well with others.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
No, he does not play well with others.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wants to do.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Like any business, if let's say you have a business.
Anybody listening. It could be a plumbing company, it could
be a landscaping company, it could be anything, could be
a law office, and you're out of sorts. The culture's
not good. They're squabbling. You would interview people to bring
into that plumbing company or that landscaping company, and you
would be seeking the right personality, not just qualified people.
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There's I mean you look for a job in America
right now, there's all sorts of qualified people. Aaron's not
the fit to unify an impulsive owner and a messy culture.
That's not his personality. He's more front runner than Foxhole guy.
Colin right, Collin wrong.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, here we go on a Monday. We are stacked
live in Los Angeles Dodgers in the World Series facing
the New York Yankees. It's The Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. Jmack, it was a moment
in time, a moment Brod party to go toe to
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toe with Patrick Mahomes. It did not, It did not
transpire the way you are hoping for.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So I'm thank you for making me laugh to start
the show, because there's gonna be a lot of tears.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, it is official. Kyle Shanahan now zero to five
against Andy Reid. It's official. Number one. Kansas City is
the best team in the league, maybe by a lot.
Number two. They're easily the most resourceful team in the league.
Everybody has injuries, doesn't affect them at all. And number three,
Andy Reid is separated from even the other good coaches.
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Kyle Shanahan's special teams annual embarrassment, Kyle Shanahan's red zone
offense totally dependent appears on Christian McCaffrey. Shanahan's a very
good coach, but in high leverage situations, he doesn't have
the adaptability the ingenuity of Andy Reid. Kyle Shanahan has
a very good system that's excellent with Christian McCaffrey. You
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take out that player a running back, and even when
their backup running back is good, it's not the same
team Andy Reid. Hey put Carson Wentz in the backfield
with Mahomes, that'll get them again. Both teams were missing
a star running back. Both teams were missing collection of receivers.
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Neither quarterback played their best game ever. Offensive lines for
both Kansas City and forty nine Ers. Okay, but in
every single high leverage situation, Mahomes in Kansas City up here,
pretty Shanahan down there. Now, you could say to yourself,
Colin that come on, don't be naive. This is all Mahomes. Okay,
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let's say it is. That's even worse news for San Francisco.
You're gonna give the bag to brock Party. Brock Party,
let's please contectual. Good quarterback, but when he's missing pieces
the red zone offense man, you know, his two big
completions both underthrown. Thankfully Tom Brady called it out. This
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is what I've consistently said about brock Purty. He's a
good quarterback with nice mobility, but he was just eight
for eighteen missing deebo Iyuk may be gone now eight
for eighteen on throws just five yards downfield with three picks.
That's what he was. Yes, he was missing Debo and
Mahomes has been missing. Rashi Rice Well, I mean I Yuk,
(03:18):
Yes Ayuk dropped a ball and then left later. Look
at what Kansas City's been doing for three years at
wide receiver ham An egging it, just trying to find
anybody Juju Smith, have him, lose him, bring him back,
gets hurt. That's the story of the Chiefs for three years,
just trying to make it work, Bondo band aids, whatever works.
So I think brock Purty is overwhelmingly although I think
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he's got some talent. He has been the beneficiary of
a good coach with a great system and a collection
of Hall of Fame level George Kittle, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey.
Take those out and there's almost no extraordinary to brock
Purty size arm movement.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yet in all those situations, when you remove all of those,
Purty and Mahomes are asked to do two different things.
Perty is asked in San Francisco, don't screw up. Here's
the keys to the Mercedes. Don't screw up. That's what
he's asked to do. Purdy is six and eight in
games in which he's just had one one turnover. Mahomes
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is asked to carry a franchise, get rid of Tyreek Hill,
move off great players, average offensive tackles. Can you be
magical when we don't have all the resources we had
to start the year, start the dynasty, or start the game.
These are two different asks. One is the best quarterback
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on the planet, regardless of who's around him. One does
a good job when everything's in place. And that's what
I've said about this. Just contextualize. You give most quarterbacks
in this league time to throw number one receiver, excellent
offensive line, they're gonna look good what Mahomes did yesterday
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on a game in which he didn't play that well.
He just in the highest moments. I mean, yesterday was
a referendum on head coaching at the highest level, quarterbacking
at the highest level. Mahomes and Purty. I mean, you
may not want to hear this, but I mean, even
on that bruising touchdown run, it's just Mahomes off script
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on script. It doesn't matter. He always makes the play.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
I actually was not trying to like lower my shoulder.
I was trying to like absorb the hit. I know
I was gonna be right in the right there in
the end zone, and that Dad bod Man just had
enough weight on me where he went down. So it
wasn't like I was initially trying to like seek out contact.
I was trying to absorb it and getting the end
zone and just ended up looking good for me.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I've just watched this matchup too many times and I
keep seeing the same exact thing every time. Mahomes is
magical in crisis. Party needs everything to be in place.
Shanahan has a really good system. Their special teams are
annually cringey, and Kansas City's more resourceful Both these teams
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were missing all sorts of players. One kind of capsized,
the other elevated. And that's what I've watched now five
straight times. All Right, let's talk about the second best
team in the league, and I think it's pretty substantial
and clear. It's Detroit. That was not an easy game
at Minnesota. Minnesota has engulf good teams, and the Lions
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may never get their defense right. They've been trying for years.
The minute they get it right, that horrible injury to
Aiden Hutchison, right, But quarterback o line, run game, clever,
offensive coordinator, power, finesse culture, there are no weakness that offense.
I mean, Jared Goff essentially looks like he's playing catch
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with his friends. In his last three games, Jared Goff's
completing eighty five percent of his throws with one hundred
and fifty three passer rating. It is a video game.
And remember Minnesota's defense, especially at home with that crowd noise,
is ferocious, is outstanding. He had three incompletions against them. CJ. Stroud,
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brock Purdy, I've never seen anything like this defense. I
was seeing ghosts. Jared Goff's playing catch. It almost feels
like as we head into Week eight Chiefs Lions Super Bowl,
it's kind of starting to feel inevitable. You don't have
to reach for the narrative or grasp for a story.
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I mean, Detroit's offense in an offensive league. Here's what
I also love is that there's this collective chip on
the shoulder with Detroit. I mean, Goff was cast off
in LA Get out of Here, and then Dan Campbell
has been mocked and the city of Detroit for years
has been a punchline and Detroit has taken that and
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built this muscle car from different parts. It's got mad
maxfield to it. And they are head coach GM offensive
line tackles everything. They are a knee cap biting monster.
They are just the team. And Minnesota's really good. Minnesota's
got a brilliant defensive coordinator. Jared Goff had three incompletions.
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So I mean, what I loved about this game for Detroit.
Detroit trailed on the road, and then Detroit led, and
then they trailed again, and then they came back, and
then they had to hold off a more than capable
Sam Darnold Viking offense. It's the kind of game you
see in January and February. All these routes are fun,
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but what you watch with Detroit and Minnesota, that feels
like the NFC Championship and you're on the road and
you trail early and the crowd is humming and you
can't hear, and you just start running the football and
you take a lead, then you fall behind, and then
you rally and take the lead again and hold on.
That looked like a playoff game. I feel like with Detroit,
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I'm watching this sort of adolescent boy, and every couple
months his voice gets deeper, he's got more confidence, few pimples,
you know. But then he walks out when morning and
mom looks up and he's six five, two forty five
and has a D one scholarship offer to Ohio State
or Michigan. It just they just looked the part power, finesse,
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run game, effortless completions, win leading, comeback when trailing. I
don't see anything about Detroit. I don't like. I just
seen it for years from Kansas City. I've never seen
it before from Detroit. This year was going to be
an interesting year for the Lions. Instead of hunting, they
were the hunted. They're fine, They're fine being the hunted.
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Here's Dan Campbell after you guys.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Didn't bat an eye. I love this freaking team. I
love the toaches, I love the players, I love everything
about it. Man, we are so freaking hardened even when
she doesn't go the way we want it to. Man,
you find a way that is an outstanding. We are
one to zero in the division.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That was something else. That that was Sometimes you get
these in the regular season. You'll see it in the NBA.
You get that handful of games. You're like, oh, that's
a playoff game, that's a conference final. That felt like
an NFC conference championship game. And Detroit goes into Minnesota
with the defensive coordinator Brian Florik Floris who had flummixed everybody,
and they just rattling off drive after drive, clever, smart,
(10:44):
physical power. That was something j mac Detroit and Kansas City.
Now we pivot an exposa around the corner of what
the Jets and the Steelers delivered.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I I you know, I didn't see that game at all.
I didn't what happened.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I was watching baseball and you know, playing chess with
my children.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
How did the Jets do last night? I didn't catch
well it'd be.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Very easy to take to take the anvil and hammer
the Jets. But I will say this, that'd be very
that's like, you know, too easy. But Russell Wilson after
that first half, that second half by Russell Wilson, remember
Big Ben's like, you can't play him. The city, you
can't play them, the Pittsburgh media, you can't play them.
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And that first half of Russell was not pretty. But
we'll talk about Russell and the Steelers and that offense.
I got the data this morning. It's a little uncomfortable.
Another quarterback in the AFC that may be better than
Aaron Rodgers stock Come on.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
It was interesting watching the Steelers and the Jets. I
really thought the Jets were going to win this game.
A very good two and four team, and I've been
as critical as anybody on Pittsburgh sort of tone deaf
to offense. But I'm gonna say this slowly. This will
be viewed by j Mack his controversial data that it
appears there's another AFC quarterback better than Aaron Rodgers since
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the start of twenty twenty two. Both Aaron and Russell
played on two different teams in that time. Maligne, Russell
Wilson has a better passer rating, thrown for more yards
per game, and a better TV interception ratio. Yes, Russell
Wilson is corny and goes to bed in his uniform
and practices high fives and has cheesy slogans. But you know,
(12:40):
I'm watching the Steelers last night with Russell Wilson. Think
about this defensive coach, power run game, very good at
home pass rush. How'es this sound? Seattle steel Seahawks light.
I know, I know that's a little over the top
because Russell's no longer in his prime. But if you recall,
Russell was not terrible last year. He had a ninety
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eight passer rating in Denver. The Broncos defense was atrocious.
But the Steeters are four and two, a super Bowl
winning coach, an excellent defense, a power run game, and
I thought Russell Wilson settled the offense down. Nobody in
Pittsburgh thought he should start. Big Ben the legend, said
what are we doing here? Nobody thought it would look
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like that, And by the way those people were all right.
In the first quarter, it was ugly, But then then
the Russell Wilson you saw in Denver last year ninety
eight passer rating, twenty six touchdowns, eight picks in the
last three quarters, hit one hundred and twenty six passer rating.
He didn't turn the ball over. He hitt in a
couple of big throws. He's always been Russell Wilson, frankly,
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has always been pretty good in the red zone. Even
in Denver last year. He's pretty good in the red
zone because of his movement. He's good on stuff. When
he can roll out to the side, get clear vision
on a defined look, that's when he's at his best.
He is good in the red zone. So, yes, he
got booed after the first three drives, and I didn't
think it would look like that. But you know what,
he's not throwing teammates under the bus, unlike the Jets.
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He's good in the red zone. His cadence, the quarterback,
sneaks the high leverage moments. It looked the part. There
were two people in Pittsburgh outside of Russell Wilson, who
thought he could do that last night, Sierra and Russell
Wilson's coach, Mike Tomlin, that's it. Maybe those three people
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could thought it could look like that. I didn't. And
after the first three drives, I thought I looked really smart.
But then I'm watching Aaron and the moods and the
eye rolling, and I'm watching Russell's movement and red zone excellence. Yes,
he's very good in the red zone, something San Francisco's not.
And the quarterback sneaks and the cadence and the throw
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over the shoulder to Pickens. Here's Mike Tomlin after.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Your boldest decisions to go with three.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
That's why I'm well compensated.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I mean Mike Tomlin made the call. Nobody bought
into it. We all looked right for the first quarter,
but after that a lot of off script stuff. You
could watch Tomlin. He was rooting for Russell. Go back
to the Denver year last year. Again, Russell's not for everybody.
He doesn't necessarily galvanize teammates. George Pickens looked happy. Well,
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we have five catches over one hundred yards. George Pickens
looked happy. The run game looked powerful. They just looked credible.
They had their footing under them. They've got Arthur Smith
as a veteran offensive coordinator. They just look settled. I mean,
that's the most points Pittsburgh has scored and how many years.
J Mack with the.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
News turns this is the Herdline News.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
All right, let's start with the World Series. Colin.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
We're getting what we've been asking for. Dodgers Yankees. It's
all set. Dodgers tick down the Mets ten to five
last night in Game six to.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Clinch their first World Series berth since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
L I scored forty six runs in the NLCS, fourth
most in a postseason series all time. Here's Joe Davis
with the final out.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
There's a box seatball a second, Taylor's got it when
Los Angeles was alive, and there's headed to the World Series.
Dodgers Yankees in the Fall Classic.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, it's amazing. Tommy Edmonds is in the center
now he's in short key k Hernandez, I mean, they
are it is. I don't think unless you follow the
Dodgers are a big baseball fan. They have an entire
pitching staff in bullpen on the shelf, and they just
manufacture runs. They have to have, you know, bullpen games now,
you have to basically throw a bullpen games.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'd like to work against the Mets and see if
it works against the Yankees. Colin, this is very exciting
match and personally I'm a little surprised though Tony didn't
win MVP. They went with Edmund who had a great NLCS.
But Otani was just so unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Mookie Betts Lookie.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Bett's good like the Bets are strong for the Dodgers.
This series is gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
LA's fourth World Series appearance in the last eight seasons.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
This is the Yankees in over first and over a decade.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And Dave Roberts Dodger manager, Aaron Boone Yankee manager.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
If you would have.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Polled fans after last year, they would have both voted
to get rid of the manager. But both the Dodgers
and the Yankees, unlike the Jets or the Mets, they
don't listen to the outside noise in these major media markets.
Head down few additives again, Yankees, Cashman Boone, Dodgers have
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had everybody in that organization, feels like, from vice presidents
to presidents, to owners to Dave Roberts. Dodgers don't listen
to outside noise. Very easy too. You have powerful media
forces out here and out east. But it's a Yankees
Dodgers and it feels right. I mean, we kind of
it once the playoffs started and it was the Yankees
against the American League Central kind of like historically they
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just roll over those teams. It's the first time these
two have met in forty three years in the World Series,
and I have I can conjure up I can conjure
up that World Series back like seventies eighties. I can
think of a couple of the players, but it was
they were big brands back then and they're bigger brands now.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So World Series Game one Yankees Dodgers coverage begins Friday's
seven easternn Fox.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Oh, you gonna rank the top ten players because I'm very.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Curious, like this seems like a toss up, like a
literal coin toss in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know, Well, I think the Dodgers would healthy.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Have well no, no, they're not healthy though.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I mean the Dodgers have second level players like Key
k Hernandez or a Max Muncy who are not like
the stars max if I said Mac Munsey. Max Munsey
has four home runs in the World Series. You wouldn't
be surprised at all their second tier guys. If I
told you Aaron Judge had three home runs in max months,
A four and.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Juan so six. Come on like it. I'm very excited
for this. Do you have Are you gonna do? Like
the rank the top ten players? I think you should.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I feel like it's Dodgers in six or seven. But
you know it's all gonna come down obviously, high leverage
pitching moments. That's what it's gonna come down to. Yeah,
seventh inning, two on, two out, That's what it's gonna come.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The star power in the series is.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I'm gonna tell you who's really happy upstairs? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Are they? They're interested in?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, I mean Guardians Podreys. Although it could have been compelling,
doesn't feel like Yankees Dodgers certainly.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
All right, let's go to the NFL where your guy
Jordan Love. Man, this guy just keeps delivering in big spots.
How about the walk off field goal win for the Packers?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Jordan Loved He threw a couple of bad interceptions but
ultimately delivered, and he discussed his mentality on that final
drive after the game.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
That's one of the biggest areas that we tried to
improve on from last year. I think we came up
short too many times last year in these two minute
drill situations go in the game, and so we've definitely
put a lot of time into it. In practice. You
can't try and you know, not be aggressive and just
take checkdowns all day. You got to be out there
and be aggressive and go win those games.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I will say this, that team is so joyful to watch.
Watch the sideline of the Packers once they got got
rid of Grumpy, when they got rid of Grumpy who
went to New York with the Jets. Yeah, watch Green
Bay play. Now they're generationally, they're all feel like they're
twenty three to twenty seven years old. That offense is
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so filthy talented. Have they missed on an offensive draft
pick in the last three years?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Everything works, even Powdy Romeo Dobbs seemed to get his
act together.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Watson the tight ends, Craft, musk Grave, everything works.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I know it's all about the pas Colin Texans were.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Not good at football.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Well did you if you notice this? Like so, they
were bad. This week we talked about it. I said,
loves better than c J. Stroud. This was a great example.
Look at what Lafleur, Matt Lafleur is willing to allow
Jordan Love to do. I felt like Demiko Ryans was
keeping c. J. Stroud in kind of a box on
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the attempts. And I mean, Matt Lafleur is like, bro,
I'm gonna let you do a little far off here
and throw ugly picks. Matt Lafleur is like Andy Reid
with Mahomes, I'm gonna let you do whatever you want.
The ultimate sign of respect and trust is when quarterbacks,
like in a game like that against Demiko Ryan's defense,
Matt Lafleur is like, hey, we had a pick, let's go.
They let They are totally absolutely confident in Jordan Love.
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He is much more I think he's much more far
than Rogers. He's a more galvanizing personality, he's more likable.
He's a little off script. He can throw some ugly ones,
but so can Holmes and Allen. He he can throw
some ugly ones, but wait, he's got magic stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I just I'm a little concerned about Stroud. No Nicocollins, Colin,
are you ready for the C. J.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Stroud line? Yesterday? In a big game against the Packers.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
He was ten for twenty one for eighty six yards.
They're keeping six yards passing. No, they're keeping him in
a bare It's like eight and O'Connell. If Aaron Rodgers
did that, it would be defcon won.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
In New York, C J.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Stroud had eighty six yards passing. They almost won the game,
but they couldn't move the football. No drive longer than
fifty five yards.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yesterday coals Also they elected for a field goal late.
You know, the defensive coach elected for a field goal.
My take is green Bay in that spot would have
gone probably gone for it. I think Houston and Green
Bay are kind of the same team. I don't think
they're quite ready to win a Super Bowl quite. Maybe
I'm wrong quite, but it's close. But after that game
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with Green Bay and what they're willing to allow Jordan
Love to do, I mean, they just they're like, kid,
go do your thing. And that's that says a lot
about what Green Bay institutionally thinks of him.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Love tied for the league leading interceptions with Patrick Mahomes
by the way and Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But nobody cares about for the record, Joe Mixon did
have a good run day, so Houston was much more
reliant on their run game.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah yeah, no, mix of mixing was excellent. But they
three point four yards per play.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
This was like New York Giants football. That's bad.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Final story caling college football. How about the scene Saturday
in Austin. Absolute shocker. Georgia pulls off the upset. But
this happened.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You've seen this on the screen, this alleged.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Holding there late third quarter, Texas was down fifteen.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Another bad Carson Beck pick.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
It's intercepted, but there was a flag on the play
and called for PI. Fans got crazy through stuff on
the field. See all these bottles on the field. So
then the referees huddled and changed the call and said
we're picking up the flag. It's an interception. Kirby Smart
loses his mind. Here's what his thought was after the game.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
I will say that now we've set a precedent that
if you throw a bunch of stuff on the field
and in danger athletes, that you've got a chance to
get your call reversed. And that's unfortunate because to me,
that's dangerous. That's not what we want, and that's not
criticizing officials. That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
He's one hundred percent right cohing this isn't bad. Like listen,
First of all, the flag was stupid. It didn't look
like PI. But to change it after people complained, I
don't know that's as bad. But by the way, these
Georgia Bulldogs, that defense dominated everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now, it's funny when Oregon beat Ohio State, Ohio State
didn't have a stinker. They played very, very well and
they lost. Yeah, Texas has a stinker, Georgia has a stinker,
Bama has won, Tennessee has what. Everybody out there except
Ohio State. I mean even Oregon when they beat Boise
State in Idaho looked awful. Ohio State's the only team
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that I've watched and I'm like, I'm not I'm telling
you that Oregon lost. Nobody in the country's win in
that game. Nobody's winning that. Georgia's winning that game. So
it's like Ohio State and the other thing. We're all
defend Texas if you were gonna lose, because we all
know that Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon, they're all making
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the playoff.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
You didn't mention al I don't know if they're.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Not, they're they're real loose. But to the other team,
if you're gonna lose in your Texas, what you wouldn't
want to do is lose in overtime and you think
to yourself, you know what it is. You got your
butt kicked at home and pushed around, so you're gonna
face Georgia. The chance of facing Georgia again or probably
fifty percent. This is the way to lose with a
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twelve team playoff. We've seen this in the NFL for
years and years. If you're gonna lose, get humiliated. It's
amazing how that lingers for two and a half months.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Motivation.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's the way you gotta lose. Like Ohio State plays
Oregon again, I think they would beat them, but that
was a go either way game. You can talk yourself
into a lot of psychologies.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
There so two other things. Carson Beck, I'm sorry he
is not the dude.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, he's not a first round quin.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
He can't throw the ball down the field. He has
any confidence.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It's I text somebody over the weekend. He feels like
a top of the third round pick.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, he could be end up being rock Oswilder something.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But the other thing is you referenced last week Texas
was like the new epicenter of college football.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Did you see how many celebrities were on hands for
this game? Like they almost overdid it?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Oh they did, and you know your boys. Sark is
going around shaking Joe Rogan's hand, Hey, k D, what's up? Like, hey,
can you lock in on the game? Hanging out with
McConaughey and the other guy from the Tom Cruise movie.
It's like it just felt like they were not locked in.
They're like, hey, look at all this exciting stuff happening
in Austin.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, at halftime, it was not all right, all right,
all right? It was it was they got pushed around.
That's what happened. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's funny to watch college football fans now. Everybody's getting
all definitive and all these refoms. It doesn't matter. We
got a twelve team playoffs like basketball, we got March
we crushed you see in two months, GEORGIEA and Texas
CEE in two months. I'd rather be Texas getting humiliated
pushed around. I'd rather be Texas in two months than Georgia.
(27:15):
Try to motivate your players when you already you already
won the first fight, first round knockout. So to me
is everybody's You know, college football has always been so
territorial and tribal and punitive, and this means that, and
that means none of that means anything. You're all playing
again and descender and we all know George is gonna
make the playoff and Texas will Alabama, shode Ohio State
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will Oregon. Well we all know who's in it. And
that doesn't lessen the fun for me. I can't wait
for December. But this game, this is the first iteration
of it. They're playing again. These kind of teams are
playing again, and so you know, you don't want to
empty the bag emotionally, physically, play calling in the first matchup.
That's why if the Chiefs lose next weekend, oh my god,
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the Chiefs lost, So what the playoff? Everybody? We always
understand in the NFL, like you have a bad Sunday.
I mean the Chiefs don't, but everybody has a bad Sunday.
In college football, even the good teams have a bad Saturday.
Won't matter. Be healthy ready, to play Focus Laser Focus
in December.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
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Speaker 3 (28:23):
Night on Fox, the stages set for an iconic showdown.
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against shohey Otani and the
Dodgers in a historic World Series clash. Game one begins
at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Well I said before the season, I thought the forty
nine ers had peaked as an organization. I did not
think they'd win a Super Bowl. And I feel like
they you know, they're the poker player that's been playing
full tilt for years and they and you know it.
It's they can still mop up on the guys in
the neighborhood, but when they play the top players, they've
been going full tilt for too long. They're beat up,
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they're old. I think Detroit is a younger, better version
of San Francisco. And I said that was my prediction
going into the season, is that the dynasties that last
in this league. You have a majority of your best
players at the right positions and in their prime. And
Deebo's banged up. He was sick yesterday and then I
had a drop and he was loud in the offseason.
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Perhaps now there's a there's an ACL problem this morning.
We'll wait for that. But I I if you look
at the great dynasties in the history of this league,
you can go back to Lombardi and Bart Starr and
Bradshaw and knowl you can go to you know, Aikman
and Jimmy Johnson and Montana and Bill Walsh, Brady Belichick,
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Mahomes reed. It's always about a legendary quarterback and a
top coach. Brock Perty's not legendary, and Kyle Shanahan increasingly
is a very good coach. But if you look at
Purty and Kyle Shanahan, you can't deny this. You take
out Yistian McCaffrey from those two, they're not very good
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in the red zone, not terribly adaptable, and completely limited
in the red zone. I mean, you take you take
any player you want, Tyreek Hill, Rashi, Rice, Isaiah Pacheco,
a right tackle. You can take anybody out of Kansas City.
They're still magic in the red zone because Andy is
more adaptable, clever. You take just Christian McCaffrey out of
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San Francisco and Purdy in Shanahan good, they're not special,
and so maybe when he comes back that changes everything,
But it also creates a real truth, is that Brock
Perdy in Kyle Shanahan and I like both. They're both good,
but they're kind of like McCaffrey dependent. Chiefs. Aren't Pacheco
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dependent or was she Rice dependent or tyreek Hill dependent.
I mean there are games when Travis Kelcey isn't around,
it didn't matter. So I mean, I've seen this thing
five times, and yesterday was really stark. It was in
Santa Clara. I mean, it's one thing if you're missing
players and you're at home, when you're on the road
and missing multiple stars, what does that tell you? And
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I never thought this game felt like Kansas City when
the Niners didn't buy into the fake punt and then
they got an early pick and they couldn't get any
points out of it, and you're looking first quarter, second quarter,
seven to three, Kansas City. You're like, you can't squander
opportunities like that. So increasingly Shanahan and Brock party are
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are very reliant on a guy that's not around, Christian McCaffrey.
They're a bad Red zone team without him, Kansas City
is a great red zone team regardless, as long as
Reid and Mahomes are there. Regardless. Here's Shanahan on brock
Perty's rough day.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You didn't do anything really good on offense. You know,
I know you'd love to have all three of those
picks back.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So I'm on broxt been playing unbelievable this year, done
some good things on offense this year, but today wasn't
that day?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
All right, I'd like to revisit the Steelers Jets tiff
last night. I will now attack it from the I
wanted to start with the Steelers positivity, a Russell Wilson thing.
First quarter, I'm like, I told you guys, last three quarters,
I'm like, what am I watching? Well? What am I watching?
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Russell Wilson's moving around and dancing. But you know, Aaron,
he got all his buddies here, right Like, he's got
all his buddies here, so he can't he can't blame
the team now. He's got everything he wants, got Davonde Adams,
he got the interim coach he you know, is his
play caller, buddy. He's got everything you wanted. You got
Alan Lazard. So we can't blame anybody, and it's I'll
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let you in a second, let you hear who he's blaming.
But you know what the Jets feel like now? They
feel like an NBA team where you kind of threw
a bunch of stuff together, like the Phoenix Suns, and
then you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll figure out, we'll
figure out how to make it work somewhere, you know,
around Thanksgiving. Yeah, bruh, you're two and five. Now, schedule's easy,
got New England around the corner. But I mean, even
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just think about the Jets. Say this out loud, interim coach.
You're on your second offensive coordinator. You got two old
offensive linemen, a guard that can't stay healthy, a rookie tackle.
It's just a mismatch. It's a collection of talented players.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
It's not a team.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And what he Johnson thinks, prickly moody, forty year old
Aaron Rodgers, he can sew it all together. That's not him.
He's a front runner when times are good. Aaron is money.
He's never I mean before this week he had four
straight opportunities or three straight opportunities game winning drives. He
went zed three so Aaron's not the kind of guy
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to take a bunch of stuff and sew it all together.
That's not his personality. He's not a foxhole guy. He's
just gifted. And there are certain personalities of Peyton Manning's
like that. Mahomes is like that. He's one of the
guys can sew everything together when it's kind of unraveling.
That's not Aaron's personality. I mean, Aaron's always been sort
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of mister I'm above it all. I see the world differently.
I do my own research. Well, I'm doing my own research.
Aaron's not that good anymore. He was the second best
quarterback in that game. And by the way, you fired
the best coach on your staff. Have you noticed the
last two games the Jets aren't as good defensively they
let go of their best coach. So, I mean, I'm
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just I'm just telling you what I'm seeing. The offense
is better, But yesterday the motion went away. Last week
we got all this motion in the offense. Where did
it go? My guess, don't have this sourced. My guess
Aaron doesn't like motion. And Aaron told this new play caller,
you know what he told him. Let's let's bring the
motion back. Let's let's let's not do as much motion
as we did last week. I know the media all
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loves it. I don't like all that motion because Aaron
historically does not like motion. And Matt Lafleur with Aaron
found out he doesn't like motion, and Mike McCarthy found out.
And I think this new play caller put in some
mo And because Hackett was so devastatingly awful, Aaron listened
for a week back to last night. They didn't run
any motion because Aaron's like, hey, I gave you a
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game we didn't win. Let's cut down the motion. So
now you're just a pocket quarterback forty years old, doesn't
move a bunch of disparate parts. You're trying to sew
it all together. It just, I mean, they're all curb appeal.
That's what the Jets are. Reliability, Nope, structure weird. They
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have great curb appeal. And so who do you blame?
Here's aerin After.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
You get everybody that you could believe it seems like
a lot of the same stings.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Just stop listening to you, guys.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Number one, number two gotta be accountable, you know, I
gotta play better.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's the key.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So all these toys Aaron has, they got fifteen points,
they got fifteen points. The Steelers inserting a quarterback that
hasn't played in a long time, they got thirty seven.
So I mean, if you really look at the Jets offense,
as far as I can tell Jmack, I could be wrong.
The play that tends to work over and over is
just dump it off to Breece Hall and he makes
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people miss. That play works very very well. But there's
a little bit of fools gold. Now with Aaron, he's
more of an image and a logo than reality. He's
got a little nft to him. It's a little fools gold.
It's the people that are not as smart as they
think they are keep embracing Aaron in it. This is
a little nft. Where's the substance. I'm getting all sorts
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of talk. Where's the substance. I don't play into images
and logos. I want sustainability, I want production. He was
a second best quarterback in that game. I'm doing my
own research. He's just a pocket quarterback. The number one
play in the Jets offense is Aaron quickly dumps it
off to somebody else. Breeze Hall, terrific player who makes
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people miss. That's the offense. That's like play thirty eight
for the Chiefs. That's like play one for the Jets.
That's what I see.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Friend's family. A lot of people hitting me up.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Boy, Coward's gonna come after you for brock Perty and
the Jets.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You better strap in for Monday and Colin.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I gotta be honest, I'm dull to this Jets stuff
at this point.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I'm just I'm numb. They were up fifteen to six
in total control.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
That control I think I texted you, this is the
best half they've had all season.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
It was two minute drill and Aaron throws in an interception,
an unbelievably stupid pass into as Mark Sanchez would say
a defensive backs meeting that the Steelers had at midfield,
there's four guys there.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Did that not reek to you of.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hey man, I already hit DeVante Adams, I got it
to Lizard. I got to force feed Garrett Wilson to
keep him happy. It felt like one of those passes
and the Jets never recovered from that interception the rest
of the game.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And listen, I this was my second favorite pick of
the week. Now, I really like this, so I'm gonna
start by saying it was pretty exciting if you're a
Steeler fan. The Steelers offense like power, run game, defense
got their feet under him. If you're Aaron Rodgers. Rich
Samini covers the Jets and he had said this yesterday
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on a tweet or a column that I was reading,
and he deserves props for this. This is just a
collection of talented guys. It's not a team. It's a
finger pointing high leverage mistakes. You just don't know what
you're getting. It's it's just a group. Remember when New
England was running the Dynasty, they used to have this sign.
You know, it's not about the talent, it's about the team.
It can't just be a collection of players. It's very
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NBA or it's high profile players, and we know they're talented,
but you never feel like their help defense is bad.
You know who takes the big shot. I don't know
what they are and when I watched them yesterday, I'm
like that second half was like I kind of felt
like the Steelers may have a ceiling, but they were
leaning into Tomlin defense, culture, run game, it's like the Steelers,
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I knew what they were even if it's limited. I'm
watching the Jets that I'm like, yeah, they make some
great plays. What are they.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well, that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Like you talked about us being like we're we have
good chemistry. You and I like, you're excited during this
show and afterwards you look at the Jets it they.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Don't look happy. I don't see shots on.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
The sideline of guys hanging out and so not a lot.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Of that happening.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
And you know, the leader of the team's got to
be the quarterback. He's got to be the unifier. How
many years now have you said Rogers is his own dude,
he doesn't work well with others.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
No, he does not play well with others.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Wants to do.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Like any business, if let's say you have a business.
Anybody listening. It could be a plumbing company, it could
be a landscaping company, it could be anything, could be
a law office, and you're out of sorts. The culture's
not good. They're squabbling. You would interview people to bring
into that plumbing company or that landscaping company, and you
would be seeking the right personality, not just qualified people.
(39:46):
There's I mean you look for a job in America
right now, there's all sorts of qualified people. Aaron's not
the fit to unify an impulsive owner and a messy culture.
That's not his personality. He's more front runner than Foxhole guy.
Colin right, Collin wrong.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
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