October 22, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin ranks his top 10 NFL teams after week 7 of the season in his new Herd Hierarchy
Nick Wright joins The Herd to talk about the Steelers, Lamar Jackson, the Chiefs, and more
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thanks for making us part of your day, Jamak. We
are so lucky to do what we do for a living.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We are.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I mean, we just sit around watch sporting events, talk
about them. Bet them be interesting, just bet sports. Watch sports.
Last night, I'm getting in kind of a bad Habit
smoked another score last night. You know that the weather
where I live is you've got a lot of fog
and it's very cool out. And so I set up
there and I and I watched the games. I'm watching
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the games and it just it just I saw that
cigar sitting there and it was like it was asking
to be smoked.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Man, that's not great, dude. I'm gonna be honest. I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're kind of a health nut, and I know a
little bit about you more than the average person.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And this is out of character. So is everything? Okay?
Good pleasing five in a rough start. But we don't
need to turn the cigars.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I know, well, we all we all have vices.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
With my vice maybe occasionally, well, nicotine finds its way
into my life.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's not the end of the world. But I don't Inhale.
I just you know, just looked the part. I did
not Inhale.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All right, Nick, right in five minutes. But first it
is our herd. Hierarchy, a very confusing one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Here we go heard hierarchy time. Now go the top
ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, the Seahawks are getting healthier on the defensive front.
I had them upsetting Atlanta in Atlanta, and they.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Look the part.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
They have a top ten scoring offense when Gino Smith
is comfortable and Atlanta has no pass rush with those receivers,
he's dangerous. Number one passing offense in the NFL. But
they're like one of the worst run offenses despite the
fact they have Kenneth Walker, who I think is a stud,
had a great catch this weekend. But I think when
they're healthy, I think they are pretty tough out and
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they can beat almost anybody.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Seahawks at ten, number nine. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Steelers. I mean, it's the Russell Wilson Steelers. They look good.
I mean they had outscore the Jets twenty four to
nothing in the second half. I'm sorry, that's impressive. The
offense scored on all four of its drives in the
second half. Remember, Russell Wilson was not terrible last year
in Denver.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The defense was.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He had a ninety eight passer rating, twenty six touchdowns,
eight picks and scrambled. I don't know what to do.
I'm not saying they're a super Bowl team, but I'm
sorry that when they play at home, Russell Wilson doesn't
turn it over, can be pretty good in the red zone,
have a home run threat, pickins, a super Bowl winning coach,
Najie Harris, I'd like for years. I'm gonna put them
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at nine, number eight. I think the Niners would beat them.
Niners are all beat up, But I think we have
to contextualize this. Yeah, they look bad. It was the Chiefs.
The Chiefs defense looks off makes a lot of people
look bad. I mean, Baltimore looks amazing against everybody except
you know, the Chiefs, so they're all beat up. But
I will say they're bad in the red zone. And
it makes me believe brock Purty is finally take a
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deep breath, Finally, last twelve starts, he's six and six.
It's very obvious that not only Party, but Kyle Shanahan
is very dependent on Christian McCaffrey, who they say is
coming back November.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Tenth, number seven the Bills. So they have a.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Losing record against winning teams, but they they're the Mike Tyson.
They can't beat Lennox Lewis or Holy Fields in this prime,
but they can beat the bad fighters, and that's Buffalo.
I don't trust them against Kansas City or Baltimore. I
wouldn't trust them against the Detroit but they play downhill.
And I do think Amari Cooper, who had a touchdown
in his first game of the Bills, I think he's
a nice, solid, good route running, mature, high IQ veteran target.
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I think he makes them a better football team. And
if they stay healthy. It's James Cook, it's Kincaid, it's
Dawson Knox. It's Josh Allen, it's an all pro left tackle.
It is a formidable offense. I just don't trust them
against the better teams. Number six, the Commanders. Jaden Daniels
is hurt. But folks, they've scored on sixty four percent
of their drives. Well, what do you want me to do?
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You keep telling me it's just a mirage. I watched
them play Baltimore. They look like they could play. I
went Baltimore and Washington. That was a good football game.
Their defense, I mean it's I keep hearing about all
the flaws, But if Jaden Daniels is playing, this is
a top ten football team. I like the coach, I
like the coordinator, I like the new owner.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I don't know. I watch them play it. I think
they're for real.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I have Washington at six, Number five, Green Bay Packers.
You know what I love about this is that watch
Matt Lafleur coach Jordan Love You ever noticed this. He
doesn't care about his mistakes. He knows he's got Brett Fahr,
but that kind of player, he lets him go. They
lead the NFL with eight touchdown throws of ten yards
plus downfield this is a very dangerous team. I feel
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like they're Houston. They're about a year away from winning
a super Bowl. I would not want to face Green
Band in the playoffs, especially if they're on a fast track.
Get him out of the cold weather in January, get
him to a dome in Minnesota. No thank you, big
playoffense taking the ball away.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think this team, this team's got super Bowls in it.
I'm just not sure if it's this year. Number four
the Vikings. They just can't beat Detroit. Last two years,
they're rowing two against Detroit. They're beating everybody else. They've
led by ten plus points in every game. I think
Sam Darnold, we all thought he's reckless. I don't trust them,
you know what. I watched that Detroit game that throw
at Jordan Andison and Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think they're fine. The upcoming schedule, by the way,
looks pretty easy. RAMS games Thursday's kind of tough because
teams that play the Lions the next week don't do well.
But I gotta tell you something, if this team ended
up in the NFC Championship, I would.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Not be shocked.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Number three, well, I had Detroit as the second best
team in the league until I watched Baltimore last night.
I think Detroit goes to number three. They have more
offensive touchdowns eighteen than incompleations incompletions over the last four games.
Jared Goff is playing pass and catch. I mean it
looks easy. Jared Goff comfortable is really good. You're not
going to move around. But Jared Goff in a pocket
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with a run game and a great left and right
tackle is really a tough out. Aiden Hutchinson's loss will
obviously be a huge factor. I still think they could
make a move before the trade deadline. This is a
really good offense. A deep threat running game, tight end,
accurate quarterback, dominating offensive line, clever play caller. This offense
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defense worries me. Offense is out standing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
The Ravens nine point four yards of play last night.
Lamar Jackson's insane. I love him, not just everything about him.
He leads the NFL in passer rating. You know, for
years and years when Lamar was doing all his tricks,
he didn't have any didn't have any good receivers. He
had Mark Andrews. Well, now they got Zay Flowers. Now
they got guys on the outside to help him and
Dereck Henry, who the Cowboys could have embraced. So there's
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you know, it's I don't I think their pass defense
terrifies me in a big game against like Kansas City,
and I think that's that's the liability. Here is the
back end, but the front end of the car looks
the part that team third and one, fourth and one,
they should go for it. They should go for every
fourth down in short yardage with Dereck Henry and Lamar
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Jackson number two, the Ravens number one. Listen, they've made
They've made a lot of money, beaten the Niners and
the Ravens and the Bills. And that's what I say.
Kansas City is better than the rest of the league
by a larger gap than you think. They have owned
three teams that are a nightmare for everybody else, the Ravens,
the Niners, and sometimes the Bills. I mean, that's the difference.
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That is the difference is their biggest rivals. You never
doubt I'm in a big spot. They get close, their
rivals can lead, they can get in front, but latent
games and by the way, Andy Reid is so ingenious,
is so adaptable, and I think that's become the big
difference between like a Shanahan who has a great system
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and a play card and Andy Reid, who week to
week it's like he's flexing. It's like, Okay, who's available
this week? Oh that tight ends not available, this deep
threat is available. Okay, we'll do a new game plan.
He didn't have a system. His system is winning and
outsmarting you. And with that, Nick Wright joins us Live.
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First things first.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Use.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
First of all, I apologize for the Steelers. I don't
know what the hell to do with them, But the
Russell Steelers, it's like, I think they're tough.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You don't need to apologize. No, Listen, the Steelers are
the bizarro. Jets actually win games and they're actually a
good team, and people are confused by it. The Jets
lose games and are a bad team, and people are
confused by that. They're like, what's wrong with the Jets.
It's the same thing that's wrong with all the bad teams.
They're bad. What's wrong with the Raiders? Same things the
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Jets and the Giants. They're two win bad teams. Poorly
coach poorly quarterback not that good a roster, are a
little overrated.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
That's what the bad teams are. The good teams are
on here.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I would I'm a little worried about San Francisco because
of the injuries, and I don't think they have a
quarterback that is going to be able to overcome this
level of injuries. But I'm fine with them on there.
Can I make a case Colin that in place of
the Seattle Seahawks, even though they were great this week
on offense, should be the Chicago Bears that you should
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have four NFC North teams in there. And the Bears,
who are getting Washington with Jadeen either banged up or
out or out, the Bears off a bye. The Bears,
whose schedule still stays soft the next few weeks, could
be staring at a seven and two start in Kale
Williams Rookie of the Year. I'm just saying the Bears
maybe should.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Find their way in there. But otherwise, I like the hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, I had Philadelphia eleven, Chicago twelve, and I don't
know what to do with Cincinnati, but yeah, I think
we're pretty close on that. So I was saying this,
what really separates. And this is not a shot at
Josh Allen, but Lamar and Patrick are different. And they're
not just different because of the physical gifts. But when
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Mahomes was asked about running over a niner in the
end zone, he goes.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well that dad bod, my dad bod.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And then Lamar every week is asked about MVPs, He's like,
you know, we're one and zero division and they're so grateful.
They're so grateful. They never I mean, you see these guys,
they get a first down and number four receiver they
get up in a point first down and Lamar there
is a cognitive understanding a gratitude from the two best
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quarterbacks in the league. I'm watching Lamar last night. Mahomes
the best quarterback in the league. I would argue Lamar's
the best play football player on the planet.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He's half running back. Mahomes the best quarterback. What do
you make of him? I just think we're so lucky
to have no I listened.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
I think that Lamar is not only the best player,
he is the best quarterback in the league most years
in October and November, and then Mahomes takes it over
for January and February, Like, that's the Lamar thing, and
you and I are going to have to agree to
disagree on this one.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Which is.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I find the Lamar conversation fully consistent with how we
discuss sports in every other context except for when it
comes to Lamar, which is, he is a brilliant, all
time great, transcendent regular season player who every single year
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of his career has his worst moment of the season
in the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, he like I.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And so that now Lamar Jackson and Ravens fans right
now are gonna be saying, Nick, why bring that up?
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Now?
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Why is that a story today after he has this game?
And the answer to that is, maybe it's unfair, but
Lamar being doing.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Having this type of performance, I think.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
This is I'm doing this off the top of my head,
but I believe this is the seventh game of his
career where he has as many or more touchdowns than
in completions. We have seen that the final game of
last year's regular season, five touchdowns, five incompletions, a one
fifty eight rating, three hundred and twenty flus passing yards
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against my where none of this is new. It's on
the screen twenty three to one against the NFC. It's
all bananas, all of this stuff. He is a two
time MVP who right now is the favorite to be
a three time MVP, with the looming cloud of utter
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terror that not only is he not going to be
the MVP come January, he's going to be a massive
detriment on his team's ability to win. And so there
until and Ravens fans can't stand me because of this,
But I'm just trying to be consistent with how we
do sports commentary. Until proven otherwise, he is no different
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than prime James Harden or current Joel Embiid first ballot
Hall of Famer night to night in the regular season,
arguably the best player in the league, and wholly and
entirely unreliable in the biggest spots of the year until
proven otherwise.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So that's so.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I know people don't like to hear it. I know
people think Lamar is getting picked on. I actually don't
look at it that way. I think that we do
that exact math to Dak Prescott every year of his career.
Don't care what's doing the regular season showed to me
in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Lamar's the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Regular season gap is bigger, his regular seasons better, and
his playoffs are worse than DA's and people don't think
it's unfair to do. I don't think it's unfair, but
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So you know, when when brock Purty came out, you
and I basically aligned on this is like, okay, he
was given he was given a great car. Here's the keys,
just don't run it into the tree in the yard
like this a pretty light lift.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Magic Johnson also inherited Kareem, but Magic was a six
to nine point guard who played center in a finals
game and dropped forty two points. So you learned very
quickly with Magic. Yeah, that doesn't look like any guard
I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And number one pick of the draft to be one
of the best college players ever, one of the best
high school players ever.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
They're not the same reason.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, brock Purty is the last guy I taken handra
a bit small, nothing is extraordinary, and now he's come
back to earth. And my takeaway is, okay, for all
you brought, pretty lovers, this is what the rest of
the league looks like. Nobody's healthy in Week eight, go
win games. I don't care about the excuses. I thought Sunday,
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I'm a Niner owner. I'm like, I'm paying that guy
fifty five.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Million, or even if it's not, don't go win games,
it just how about don't lose us the game, don't
throw three interceptions that are increasingly more crippling. I listen,
folks wanted and demanded, got so mad at myself and
at you for not for not giving brock Purty credit
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for doing a better version of exactly what we saw
Jimmy Garoppolo do to conference championship game, go to a
Super Bowl, lose to the Chiefs, lose in heartbreaking fashion.
And now that there is an increasing sample of oh
wait a minute, Rock Purdy.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
The last two years.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
In games, he has all of the Avengers Trent McCaffrey,
Ayuk deebo Kittle thirteen to one, yeah, a passer rating
north of one ten, and the one loss is overtime
to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But he's now
played fourteen games with at least one of them missing
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six and eight, with a passer rating in the low
eighties and a touchdown interception ratio of fourteen to sixteen
as opposed to I think the other one is thirty
seven to three like or another sample as you mentioned
the Ravens Christmas Eve or Christmas Day last year baptized.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Them a bit.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, six and six that moment forward as many turnovers
or I think more turnovers than touchdowns, there are legitimate
questions and if you're San Francisco and you are figuring
out what the team is going to look like moving forward,
of course it's a real question of it. Is he
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worth sixty million dollars a year if that prevents us
from having this talent around him. I do think he's
over achieved. He has impressed me. He's a seventh round
pick that at a minimum is a solid NFL starter.
But I know folks got very very mad if you
were not willing to say he's right outside of the
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big four Mahomes, Alan Lamar Burrow, there's your four, and
then in that next group that if he's not right there,
you're being unfair. It's just not how I view it,
and I think San Francisco in a weird way, Colin.
If I'm trying to go have full for the Niners,
it's this. While this season might be painful, if this
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does go sideways on you, entirely because of the injuries.
Maybe you will be gleaning super valuable information that will
prevent you from making a long term contractual mistake if
this player can't elevate at least more than he did
on Sunday without the All Star cast around him.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So finally, Troy Yekman comes out with pointed criticism which
really falls on the coach. The receivers are lazy, they're
un lazy routes.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's coaching.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Mike McCarthy yesterday comes out and says those words do
not land for me. Jerry Jones comes out this morning
and says, this.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Trow is credible boy, and should be.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And not only that, you can imagine he's not just
interested in taking a whack at the cowboys.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
He's very professional.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
If you criticized me and said, you know, Colin doesn't
work hard, and I said, Nick's words aren't credible, and
then my boss came out publicly and said, you know, Nick, boy,
you know he doesn't take shots.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You Nick, when Nick talks, you're gonna listen to that.
I'd be like, right, I'd call my agent. Can we
look for work here? I mean this is the end?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Like I mean I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
So I have so many thoughts on this. First of all,
I'd never say you didn't don't work hard. I might
say maybe a few too many cigars and Bob called
the Rocks lately, but you've earned it, like you've earned
it because of all your hard work.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
So I, I.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Literally, Colin had not heard the Jerry Jones sound until
this very second. I had heard the Akman critique and
then the McCarthy response, and my initial thoughts were, Yeah,
I don't think you actually get to dismiss Troy Aikman's opinion.
I think coaches can just dismiss my opinion, your opinion,
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basically any media member's opinion, but when it is coming
from still connected to the game, Hall of Fame quarterback
like Tom hasn't done it. But if Tom Brady came
out and gave very pointed criticism about a specific team
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and then the head coach was like, basically like, ah,
what does he know, I'd be like, well, I think
that's a miss like you those that's a different type
of media criticism, right, and so I so my initial
response was, I don't think McCarthy should have just dismissed.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It that way.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
But now hearing in real time Jerry Jones' response, Yeah,
because he also Jerry had some comments that in this
interview that I did hear where he seemed to talk
about the team not being as well prepared or good
schematically yea as he would have hoped. Yeah, it's very
very clear to me that if the Dallas Cowboys don't
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at least make the conference championship game, Mike McCarthy's getting fired.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Not getting fired, just they're not bringing him back.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I don't think they're going to fire him during the year,
and I don't think that this is a big shock.
I just think McCarthy it's like, hey, we haven't made
to the NFC Championship game in thirty years.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
You're on a lame duck.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Jerry maybe should look inwards and say I didn't give
them enough talent. But Jerry Jones has a little bit
of Aaron Rodgers to him, which is, there's.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
A ton of problems here.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I don't know who's in charge, but it ain't my fault,
and so that what disaster this is who built this team.
So I do think McCarthy knows what the stakes of
the game are, which is, if we don't win at
least one and honest to god, probably two playoff games.
I'm out of here, and right now they're a coin
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flip just to make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And it's a tough spot.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And by the way, Washington looks good, Chicago looks good,
Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I said this earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
The top teams in the AFC and the top coaches,
and those are great wild card in the af SEA.
I take the Chargers today and they lost last night.
The NFC's tops and good. Yeah, you mean what a cup?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
I mean, my god, Colin Gowerd is gonna be turning
on TV wild Card weekend and it's gonna be a
Sean Payton game leading into a Sam Darnald game.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, there's might that might be a two cigar day.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I'm telling you right now, they're just gonna be head
over heels.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I mean, one of the great days of my life.
They'll probably both get boxed and and you know, the
Chiefs shall win by.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Wait, but still you'll have that Saturday afternoon. I mean,
it'll just be glorious, great seeing you buddy, Nick. Right,
first things for I didn't even think about that. He's right,
I better get prepared for that by some cohebas a
Donald Bonick Saturday, or you could get those for me.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I've been pretty I'm gonna now get your fund, your
cigar habit.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
Top of next hour. We missed him last week. Mark
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Speaker 2 (23:20):
Hey Jmax, I'm not even gonna get it. Is that
included your update?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
If not, we can touch on.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
We could probably get it. We could probably hit it in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The third hour, if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
By the way, we both laughed, he was laughing at
something during the break and I'm like, what are you
laughing at?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And I was laughing at that this morning when I
got up.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Sixer season opens tonight, Hey, hey Jmack, who's not available?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Paul George and Joel How do you never ends?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's a marathon, not a spring.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, the whole off season.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I can't get the opening game for Kawhi, Leonard, Paul
George or joelmb.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Also Chris Middleton's out for the for the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, just eliminate those teams.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Clippers, Sixers, Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Take this baby.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You're not runny in game one. Forget it. J Mack
with the news. Turn on the news. This is the
herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
So anytime Brock party emerges as a topic, just strap in.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
This is going to be fun. Let's get the honesty
out of the way early. He was bad Sunday.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay, three interceptions, thirty six point seven passer rating.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
They lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
After the game, the media made a lot about Kyle
Shanahan and Purdy having a conversation in the locker room. Shanahan, however,
was downplaying everything.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
I forgot everyone was still in there. We were just
hanging out talking about the game and things like that.
And when I looked behind you guys kind of scared
me and realized everyone was creeping so bad. But there
was That's just what we all do. We talk those
three picks. I know Brock would have loved to have back,
you know, they he didn't have anything on that last
one down in the red zone. But he's got to
sit there and take the sack so we can kick
a field goal and make it a six point game.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it's I don't make a ton of it. What
do you well.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Head vast Brockberty, this is its open season.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, I mean I think you are judged as a
quarterback in the biggest moments. Receivers aren't. If a receiver
you know has one target in a big game, you're
not gonna crush him. You're gonna blame the quarterback of
the coach. This was a big moment.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Oh really okay? And he's most on week week seven.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But by the way, how did he do in the
NFC Championship Game trailing double digits to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Oh, he brought him back and won the game. How
do you do in the Super Bowl? He outplayed Mahomes,
He just didn't deliver a touchdown. In overtime he delivered.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
A field goal. But now, so there's a hig game.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Those are bigger than Week seven, Colin.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But as the team gets older and creakier and falls apart,
you're now trying to make a judgment on if you
give him fifty five million, And in his last twelve
games he is six and six with a passer rating
of eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Saying give him fifty five million.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh that's you gotta make a decision in a year.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Why fifty five million? You got to pay him with
like Dak Prescott's making. No nobody said anything about that.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
That's insane. Fifty five mil.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And oh, by the way, let me just put this
out there. Deebo Samuel played at wopping three plays in
the game and now he's in the hospital. Christian McCaffrey
is probably in Germany getting some treatment on his legs.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Jennings who has emerged. You liked him. He had a
good Super Bowl, he had a good season so far.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He didn't even play, so brock Perty's fighting the Chiefs
the best defense in the league, best defensive cordend in
the league.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
With one hand tied behind his back, and we're gonna
kill him for three picks. He did not have a
good game.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Period, end of till. Let's just end with that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He did not have a good game at home on
a Kansas City team without Isaiah Pacheco, without rashi.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
He's a running back well, I mean Rashiye Rice and
wide receiver. That Chiefs defense is legit top three in
the league. Two.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Spagnolo is the best defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm not denying that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But then at home, you can't be terrible because you're
missing a few pieces, a few all the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Best skill position guys, Hey, David Bell, do you know
how to run a freaking past pattern? He's a guy
who dropped pass against the ring.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Jordan Mason is currently the number two rusher in the NFL.
Trent Williams, George Kittle, you had pieces.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, he did not deliver it. It was a bad loss.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
But to try to like make this thing out of
rock Party, who I think is twenty and eight as
a starter in his career, and now you want to
cherry pick a couple of.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Twenty and eight in a division with Arizona Geno Smith
and the rebuilding Rams twenty and eight with Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I mean, I can get the stats team behind the
scenes to cherry pick all the games against teams over
five hundred.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Let me just say you can try that. But they're
out of cherries on that phone. Oh yeah, that farm
ran out of cherries to.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Pick Niners Cowboys. This week, I'm seeing four half.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I cannot love love the Niners. Love the Niners. This week.
It's my pick of the week.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I like an idiot bet at five thinking it would
go up. It's now coming down, so I'll bet it again.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Next story.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
We are contractually obligated to talk about the New York
Football yes, even though you and I don't want to.
DeVante Adams made his debut three catches thirty yards seem
like a hamstring sidelined him in the second half. Dante
believes there's a ton of potential with the weapons on
this roster.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
It's a lot of talent. I mean, the offers that
we got, the weapons that we have. I mean, when
I'm in the huddle of today multiple time, I'm just
looking around and it's kind of crazy. And then that's
almost what push you off even more, knowing that you
got those type of weapons and to come up short
and to put up fifteen points against a team that
I mean, obviously, I don't want to take anything away
from this team, but I feel like a lot of
it had to do with what we did to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It's just a collection of talented players. It's not a
cohesive team. And that's not Aaron Rodgers' primary skill is
galvanizing a bunch of people. That's not what he is.
He's a bit of a front runner. That's not a criticism,
it's statistically true. He's better with a lead than trailing,
better when things are working, not working. I mean, that's
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just what. He's not a good fit. When Brady went
to Tampa, they had a bunch, they.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Were the Jets.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They were like, You're like, we had Jamis Winston. You're like, man,
they got a bunch of good players. They can't bring
it together. Brady's primary skill set is like unifying a
collection of talented players. Go back to Tampa. They look
just like the Jets. They had a couple of receivers
you liked. They had an interior defensive lineman. They had
an edge rush or a linebacker, a good corner. They
were the Jets. But Jamis couldn't bring them together. That's
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what Brady's personality is defined by. Aaron's is defined by artistic, aesthetic, beautiful,
contrarian solo act better leading than trailing. So you're asking
him to take the Buccaneers and galvanized like Brady did.
That's not his personality. It's not who Aaron is.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
This is a little troubling. So we've got a stat here,
colland check this out for the radio audience. We're looking
at the first seven games last year with Zechlison, Tim Boyle,
et cetera, and this season with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Thank you, Jet.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Record is worse, their point differential is wor, their turnover
margin is worse.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Talent, They're a worse football team with Eric with.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Much better talent. Greace Hall was hurt last year. He's healthy.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Can't blame Robert Solla, Guys, can't. He's gone, He's fired.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
No, right, got out of this hole. My whole point.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Who were blaming?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Who's the blame?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Call Mike Williams. We gotta throw him under the bus again.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Like they have much better players, they have two better tackles,
they have Devonte Adams and they lost.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Right's tough to the Eagles. Don't don't don't dact like that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Come on, I'm dislike he's a turnover machine at this point,
is he not?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yes? I mean I I say this.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We tend to all of us as sports fans. We
love the prettier you are as a player, the more
we keep embracing you. We we love that aesthetic beauty.
I mean, James Harden still has a million fans and
you know come May in June, he won't deliver. His
game is pretty his game is unique. He's offensively gifted.
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That's the way it works. Aaron's the prettiest thrower of
the football. May be in the league Marino when he
was old, but they weren't good.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They weren't good quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm just not going to get excited about the Patriots.
J just game this week, just seven favorites.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm just gonna go go watch the World Series. You
go for New York, call goal for the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
There's a game on Sunday, There's a Friday game, Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, we got to put a game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I just don't care about the game this week. They'll
probably win because I'm not paying attention to drop but
bill Wood.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Final story Colin is Jaden Daniels had to leave the
game against the Panthers due to a rib injury early
in the first quarter. Did not return, So now he's
facing the Bears on Sunday, and of course the big
matchup Caleb Williams versus Jade Daniels. However, dan Quinn said
his quarterback is week to week.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The status for Jayden will put down as week to week.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
As you guys know, it's a rib injury, and we'll
take him through you know, all the steps at practice
and assess how he's doing and keep working it through that.
We're hopeful he can play, but we'll also make sure
to take every precautionary step and do it smartly for
the player and the man.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So it's I still haven't seen a conclusive video where
he took a bad shot.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I will say we noted in the season opener.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Against the Bucks he was running too much. SAT's got
to get out of bounce. And I will just say
I know a lot of Washington fans remember what happened
to RG three.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He was having a great year and injuries and they
put him out their injuries. Remember that Seattle playoff game.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Just yep.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
They don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
My guess is the market's telling you that he's not
going to play this week. Bears two and a half
point favorites on the road. Jayden has been better than
Caleb this year.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's undeniable.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I looked at the schedule, Commanders have the Giants divisional
matchup next week.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You just keep him out.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's a bigger game. I would I would just shut
him down.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Mariota, by the way, some of the events that said
he was he was one of the best quarterbacks this week,
and now he's playing with a lead.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The whole time.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Mariota's history is he doesn't stay healthy. But Marcus and play.
He just tends to be a bit. He's not reckless
throwing the ball. He's reckless with his body. But Marcus
Mariota's always been coachable, moves well, throws a nice ball.
He just struggles to stay healthy, and there's defensive front
can get fisty. For the record, this shows you how
much better Washington has run. Of all the old quarterbacks
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on the market that you'd want as a backup to
Jaden Daniels, wouldn't you want Marcus Mariota. Stylistically it's the
same guy. I mean that that's the difference when teams
are well run. That's why we look at Miami and
we're like, how do you have two as a quarterback
and be horrible at backup? Jaden Daniels comp it's not perfect,
(33:39):
but he's more Lamar Jackson. But Mariota is a little
Jaden Daniels, mature, good in the room, control the ball, moves.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You worry a little bit about help.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's that another sign that Washington, even in the backup quarterback,
knows what they're doing now. Now finally, we.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Don't know if it's a broken rib brus. Ribley's really
not in a lot of details.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I saw him smiling on the field when he came
back out.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He didn't look like broken, no win singer or anything.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
If this were Week fifteen playoff, put on a flack jacket,
get the hell out there and get us to win.
Like I just my guess is he doesn't play this
week and Bears two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I kind of like the Bears. It on the road
off of by.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah Seaymack with the news.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
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Speaker 1 (34:26):
A lot of things going on. It's Mark Sanchez top
of Next Hour. We miss Mark last week, Rachel Nichols.
It's the NBA season and yes, Kawhi, Paul George, and
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Friday night on Fox. The Stage is set for an
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Speaker 4 (34:54):
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shoe a Otani and
the Dodgers in a historic World Series. Class Game one
begins at seven pm Eastern un font.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
From Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So I'm reading this quote from Eagles coach Nick Siriani
Mark Sanchez top of next hour. He says, this is
Jalen Hurts talking about his coach. Jalen Hurts says, well,
Nick knows that I'm behind him, and he knows that
communicating is important amongst in a team sport, and he's
doing a really good job of doing that. Okay, the
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new standard in Philadelphia for their head coaches don't yell
at fans. That's that's a no no. And communicating in
a team sport is essential. Oh boy, it's year four.
I'm watching Dan Campbell in year four. The culture's right,
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the staff is right. The quarterback's the best he's ever been,
even better than McVeigh off o line. It's a muscle car.
I'm watching year four in Philadelphia and Nick Sirianni just
got scolded by the owner because he's yelling at fans.
But he is a good communicator in a team sport.
(36:21):
So the first when Nick Sirianni first got here, bad
press conference, and after about a year we're like, what
does he do? Because he gave up the play calling
to Shane Steichen, who's brilliant, and so that's not great.
Whenever you're asking about a coach, what does he do?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Not great?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
The CEO of your football team. The second thing is
is he a distraction? And I can't help but do
this when when when you have a new quarterback class
and one of them by year two you're like, whow
and one of them by year four You're like, I
don't know if he can if he can complete out routes.
I don't know what Sirianni does. They've taken away play calling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
He didn't know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You shouldn't yell at fans. Now where the standard is?
You know, in a team sport communications vital. He's getting
good at that. It doesn't sound right. So here was
another Here here's Nick Sirianni this week on evolving as
a head coach.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
I just told the team that it happened. You know
a bunch of different ways. There was a bunch of
different ways that that I learned this this week. So
what I said to the team, is like, you know,
I put my head down. You know when you have criticism,
when you have those different things, you put your head
down and you work even harder.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah. I know that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
That's like a manual of cliches to succeed in business.
Put your head down, work harder. Yeah, we know that.
That's that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Guys. When you get kicked in the growing you know,
you put your head down, work harder. It's year four.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You just learn that. I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not
trying to be mean, but like, that's not year four stuff.
Like I get you're an interim coach with the Jets.
You're inserted as a former player to coach, and after
a couple of weeks you're like, hey, I'm getting my
I'm getting my hands around this. Think I'm getting my
hands around the play calling. I used to call plays.
Now i'm the head coach. I've relinquished that play calling
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defensive lead to somebody else, the linebacker coach. I get
that I've been learning on the job before, But if
I was learning on the job in year four here,
I wouldn't get year five. It sounds like it's just again,
I'm not saying you should always take jobs that are challenging.
Andy Reid getting his arms around Kansas City for the
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first fifteen months.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Chip Kelly going from college to the pros in Philadelphia,
Doug Peterson first big job.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I'll give you a year get your arms around it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I get it. I totally get it. You shouldn't take
a job that's easy. But year four I want Dan
Campbell and I said this. I remember the first year
when Detroit was losing games, and I said this, and
go back and find the archive. I said, they're not
winning any games. Nobody in the league plays harder. I
think it was a game against Baltimore they lost at home,
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and I'm like, they don't have nearly enough good players,
but that team plays hard. By year two, you're like,
you know that kneecap biting stuff, it's kind of what
I'm seeing. By year three, you're like, Wow, Dan Campbell works,
he knows what he's doing. We're in year four. You
can't be scolded because you're yelling at fans like you,
(39:28):
I understand your first game fans bark, you look up
say something, Okay, I don't know, and I'm probably you
know I'm just being too critical.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It'll probably all work out.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
All I know is this, when things don't go right,
you put your head down and you work harder.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Maybe i'm you know, I'm just being glib. Should probably
be nicer.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But it doesn't feel like it's It feels like they're
protecting him now, like he's saying stuff that it's getting.
It's kind of moving into a hey, like Jalen hurts, like, hey,
we got your back. He's learning on the job, which
I'm okay with. Not in year four of the job,
Philadelphia is too loud, is too big of an NFL job, Jacksonville,
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I'll give you a little wobble. Philadelphia is not interested
in wobbling.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thanks for making us part of your day, Jamak. We
are so lucky to do what we do for a living.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We are.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I mean, we just sit around watch sporting events, talk
about them. Bet them be interesting, just bet sports. Watch sports.
Last night, I'm getting in kind of a bad Habit
smoked another score last night. You know that the weather
where I live is you've got a lot of fog
and it's very cool out. And so I set up
there and I and I watched the games. I'm watching
(01:04):
the games and it just it just I saw that
cigar sitting there and it was like it was asking
to be smoked.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Man, that's not great, dude. I'm gonna be honest. I'm surprised.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
You're kind of a health nut, and I know a
little bit about you more than the average person.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And this is out of character. So is everything? Okay?
Good pleasing five in a rough start. But we don't
need to turn the cigars.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I know, well, we all we all have vices.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
With my vice maybe occasionally, well, nicotine finds its way
into my life.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's not the end of the world. But I don't Inhale.
I just you know, just looked the part. I did
not Inhale.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
All right, Nick, right in five minutes. But first it
is our herd. Hierarchy, a very confusing one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Here we go heard hierarchy time. Now go the top
ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, the Seahawks are getting healthier on the defensive front.
I had them upsetting Atlanta in Atlanta, and they.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Look the part.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
They have a top ten scoring offense when Gino Smith
is comfortable and Atlanta has no pass rush with those receivers,
he's dangerous. Number one passing offense in the NFL. But
they're like one of the worst run offenses despite the
fact they have Kenneth Walker, who I think is a stud,
had a great catch this weekend. But I think when
they're healthy, I think they are pretty tough out and
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they can beat almost anybody.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Seahawks at ten, number nine. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Steelers. I mean, it's the Russell Wilson Steelers. They look good.
I mean they had outscore the Jets twenty four to
nothing in the second half. I'm sorry, that's impressive. The
offense scored on all four of its drives in the
second half. Remember, Russell Wilson was not terrible last year
in Denver.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The defense was.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He had a ninety eight passer rating, twenty six touchdowns,
eight picks and scrambled. I don't know what to do.
I'm not saying they're a super Bowl team, but I'm
sorry that when they play at home, Russell Wilson doesn't
turn it over, can be pretty good in the red zone,
have a home run threat, pickins, a super Bowl winning coach,
Najie Harris, I'd like for years. I'm gonna put them
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at nine, number eight. I think the Niners would beat them.
Niners are all beat up, But I think we have
to contextualize this. Yeah, they look bad. It was the Chiefs.
The Chiefs defense looks off makes a lot of people
look bad. I mean, Baltimore looks amazing against everybody except
you know, the Chiefs, so they're all beat up. But
I will say they're bad in the red zone. And
it makes me believe brock Purty is finally take a
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deep breath, Finally, last twelve starts, he's six and six.
It's very obvious that not only Party, but Kyle Shanahan
is very dependent on Christian McCaffrey, who they say is
coming back November.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Tenth, number seven the Bills. So they have a.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Losing record against winning teams, but they they're the Mike Tyson.
They can't beat Lennox Lewis or Holy Fields in this prime,
but they can beat the bad fighters, and that's Buffalo.
I don't trust them against Kansas City or Baltimore. I
wouldn't trust them against the Detroit but they play downhill.
And I do think Amari Cooper, who had a touchdown
in his first game of the Bills, I think he's
a nice, solid, good route running, mature, high IQ veteran target.
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I think he makes them a better football team. And
if they stay healthy. It's James Cook, it's Kincaid, it's
Dawson Knox. It's Josh Allen, it's an all pro left tackle.
It is a formidable offense. I just don't trust them
against the better teams. Number six, the Commanders. Jaden Daniels
is hurt. But folks, they've scored on sixty four percent
of their drives. Well, what do you want me to do?
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You keep telling me it's just a mirage. I watched
them play Baltimore. They look like they could play. I
went Baltimore and Washington. That was a good football game.
Their defense, I mean it's I keep hearing about all
the flaws, But if Jaden Daniels is playing, this is
a top ten football team. I like the coach, I
like the coordinator, I like the new owner.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I don't know. I watch them play it. I think
they're for real.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I have Washington at six, Number five, Green Bay Packers.
You know what I love about this is that watch
Matt Lafleur coach Jordan Love You ever noticed this. He
doesn't care about his mistakes. He knows he's got Brett Fahr,
but that kind of player, he lets him go. They
lead the NFL with eight touchdown throws of ten yards
plus downfield this is a very dangerous team. I feel
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like they're Houston. They're about a year away from winning
a super Bowl. I would not want to face Green
Band in the playoffs, especially if they're on a fast track.
Get him out of the cold weather in January, get
him to a dome in Minnesota. No thank you, big
playoffense taking the ball away.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I think this team, this team's got super Bowls in it.
I'm just not sure if it's this year. Number four
the Vikings. They just can't beat Detroit. Last two years,
they're rowing two against Detroit. They're beating everybody else. They've
led by ten plus points in every game. I think
Sam Darnold, we all thought he's reckless. I don't trust them,
you know what. I watched that Detroit game that throw
at Jordan Andison and Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think they're fine. The upcoming schedule, by the way,
looks pretty easy. RAMS games Thursday's kind of tough because
teams that play the Lions the next week don't do well.
But I gotta tell you something, if this team ended
up in the NFC Championship, I would.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Not be shocked.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Number three, well, I had Detroit as the second best
team in the league until I watched Baltimore last night.
I think Detroit goes to number three. They have more
offensive touchdowns eighteen than incompleations incompletions over the last four games.
Jared Goff is playing pass and catch. I mean it
looks easy. Jared Goff comfortable is really good. You're not
going to move around. But Jared Goff in a pocket
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with a run game and a great left and right
tackle is really a tough out. Aiden Hutchinson's loss will
obviously be a huge factor. I still think they could
make a move before the trade deadline. This is a
really good offense. A deep threat running game, tight end,
accurate quarterback, dominating offensive line, clever play caller. This offense
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defense worries me. Offense is out standing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Number two.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
The Ravens nine point four yards of play last night.
Lamar Jackson's insane. I love him, not just everything about him.
He leads the NFL in passer rating. You know, for
years and years when Lamar was doing all his tricks,
he didn't have any didn't have any good receivers. He
had Mark Andrews. Well, now they got Zay Flowers. Now
they got guys on the outside to help him and
Dereck Henry, who the Cowboys could have embraced. So there's
(07:20):
you know, it's I don't I think their pass defense
terrifies me in a big game against like Kansas City,
and I think that's that's the liability. Here is the
back end, but the front end of the car looks
the part that team third and one, fourth and one,
they should go for it. They should go for every
fourth down in short yardage with Dereck Henry and Lamar
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Jackson number two, the Ravens number one. Listen, they've made
They've made a lot of money, beaten the Niners and
the Ravens and the Bills. And that's what I say.
Kansas City is better than the rest of the league
by a larger gap than you think. They have owned
three teams that are a nightmare for everybody else, the Ravens,
the Niners, and sometimes the Bills. I mean, that's the difference.
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That is the difference is their biggest rivals. You never
doubt I'm in a big spot. They get close, their
rivals can lead, they can get in front, but latent
games and by the way, Andy Reid is so ingenious,
is so adaptable, and I think that's become the big
difference between like a Shanahan who has a great system
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and a play card and Andy Reid, who week to
week it's like he's flexing. It's like, Okay, who's available
this week? Oh that tight ends not available, this deep
threat is available. Okay, we'll do a new game plan.
He didn't have a system. His system is winning and
outsmarting you. And with that, Nick Wright joins us Live.
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First things first.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Use.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
First of all, I apologize for the Steelers. I don't
know what the hell to do with them, But the
Russell Steelers, it's like, I think they're tough.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
You don't need to apologize. No, Listen, the Steelers are
the bizarro. Jets actually win games and they're actually a
good team, and people are confused by it. The Jets
lose games and are a bad team, and people are
confused by that. They're like, what's wrong with the Jets.
It's the same thing that's wrong with all the bad teams.
They're bad. What's wrong with the Raiders? Same things the
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Jets and the Giants. They're two win bad teams. Poorly
coach poorly quarterback not that good a roster, are a
little overrated.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
That's what the bad teams are. The good teams are
on here.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I would I'm a little worried about San Francisco because
of the injuries, and I don't think they have a
quarterback that is going to be able to overcome this
level of injuries. But I'm fine with them on there.
Can I make a case Colin that in place of
the Seattle Seahawks, even though they were great this week
on offense, should be the Chicago Bears that you should
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have four NFC North teams in there. And the Bears,
who are getting Washington with Jadeen either banged up or
out or out, the Bears off a bye. The Bears,
whose schedule still stays soft the next few weeks, could
be staring at a seven and two start in Kale
Williams Rookie of the Year. I'm just saying the Bears
maybe should.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
Find their way in there. But otherwise, I like the hierarchy.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, I had Philadelphia eleven, Chicago twelve, and I don't
know what to do with Cincinnati, but yeah, I think
we're pretty close on that. So I was saying this,
what really separates. And this is not a shot at
Josh Allen, but Lamar and Patrick are different. And they're
not just different because of the physical gifts. But when
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Mahomes was asked about running over a niner in the
end zone, he goes.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well that dad bod, my dad bod.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And then Lamar every week is asked about MVPs, He's like,
you know, we're one and zero division and they're so grateful.
They're so grateful. They never I mean, you see these guys,
they get a first down and number four receiver they
get up in a point first down and Lamar there
is a cognitive understanding a gratitude from the two best
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quarterbacks in the league. I'm watching Lamar last night. Mahomes
the best quarterback in the league. I would argue Lamar's
the best play football player on the planet.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He's half running back. Mahomes the best quarterback. What do
you make of him? I just think we're so lucky
to have no I listened.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
I think that Lamar is not only the best player,
he is the best quarterback in the league most years
in October and November, and then Mahomes takes it over
for January and February, Like, that's the Lamar thing, and
you and I are going to have to agree to
disagree on this one.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Which is.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I find the Lamar conversation fully consistent with how we
discuss sports in every other context except for when it
comes to Lamar, which is, he is a brilliant, all
time great, transcendent regular season player who every single year
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of his career has his worst moment of the season
in the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, he like I.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
And so that now Lamar Jackson and Ravens fans right
now are gonna be saying, Nick, why bring that up?
Speaker 7 (12:23):
Now?
Speaker 6 (12:24):
Why is that a story today after he has this game?
And the answer to that is, maybe it's unfair, but
Lamar being doing.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Having this type of performance, I think.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
This is I'm doing this off the top of my head,
but I believe this is the seventh game of his
career where he has as many or more touchdowns than
in completions. We have seen that the final game of
last year's regular season, five touchdowns, five incompletions, a one
fifty eight rating, three hundred and twenty flus passing yards
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against my where none of this is new. It's on
the screen twenty three to one against the NFC. It's
all bananas, all of this stuff. He is a two
time MVP who right now is the favorite to be
a three time MVP, with the looming cloud of utter
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terror that not only is he not going to be
the MVP come January, he's going to be a massive
detriment on his team's ability to win. And so there
until and Ravens fans can't stand me because of this,
But I'm just trying to be consistent with how we
do sports commentary. Until proven otherwise, he is no different
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than prime James Harden or current Joel Embiid first ballot
Hall of Famer night to night in the regular season,
arguably the best player in the league, and wholly and
entirely unreliable in the biggest spots of the year until
proven otherwise.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So that's so.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
I know people don't like to hear it. I know
people think Lamar is getting picked on. I actually don't
look at it that way. I think that we do
that exact math to Dak Prescott every year of his career.
Don't care what's doing the regular season showed to me
in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Lamar's the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Regular season gap is bigger, his regular seasons better, and
his playoffs are worse than DA's and people don't think
it's unfair to do. I don't think it's unfair, but
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So you know, when when brock Purty came out, you
and I basically aligned on this is like, okay, he
was given he was given a great car. Here's the keys,
just don't run it into the tree in the yard
like this a pretty light lift.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Magic Johnson also inherited Kareem, but Magic was a six
to nine point guard who played center in a finals
game and dropped forty two points. So you learned very
quickly with Magic. Yeah, that doesn't look like any guard
I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
And number one pick of the draft to be one
of the best college players ever, one of the best
high school players ever.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
They're not the same reason.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, brock Purty is the last guy I taken handra
a bit small, nothing is extraordinary, and now he's come
back to earth. And my takeaway is, okay, for all
you brought, pretty lovers, this is what the rest of
the league looks like. Nobody's healthy in Week eight, go
win games. I don't care about the excuses. I thought Sunday,
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I'm a Niner owner. I'm like, I'm paying that guy
fifty five.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Million, or even if it's not, don't go win games,
it just how about don't lose us the game, don't
throw three interceptions that are increasingly more crippling. I listen,
folks wanted and demanded, got so mad at myself and
at you for not for not giving brock Purty credit
(15:54):
for doing a better version of exactly what we saw
Jimmy Garoppolo do to conference championship game, go to a
Super Bowl, lose to the Chiefs, lose in heartbreaking fashion.
And now that there is an increasing sample of oh
wait a minute, Rock Purdy.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
The last two years.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
In games, he has all of the Avengers Trent McCaffrey,
Ayuk deebo Kittle thirteen to one, yeah, a passer rating
north of one ten, and the one loss is overtime
to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But he's now
played fourteen games with at least one of them missing
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six and eight, with a passer rating in the low
eighties and a touchdown interception ratio of fourteen to sixteen
as opposed to I think the other one is thirty
seven to three like or another sample as you mentioned
the Ravens Christmas Eve or Christmas Day last year baptized.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Them a bit.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, six and six that moment forward as many turnovers
or I think more turnovers than touchdowns, there are legitimate
questions and if you're San Francisco and you are figuring
out what the team is going to look like moving forward,
of course it's a real question of it. Is he
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worth sixty million dollars a year if that prevents us
from having this talent around him. I do think he's
over achieved. He has impressed me. He's a seventh round
pick that at a minimum is a solid NFL starter.
But I know folks got very very mad if you
were not willing to say he's right outside of the
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big four Mahomes, Alan Lamar Burrow, there's your four, and
then in that next group that if he's not right there,
you're being unfair. It's just not how I view it,
and I think San Francisco in a weird way, Colin.
If I'm trying to go have full for the Niners,
it's this. While this season might be painful, if this
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does go sideways on you, entirely because of the injuries.
Maybe you will be gleaning super valuable information that will
prevent you from making a long term contractual mistake if
this player can't elevate at least more than he did
on Sunday without the All Star cast around him.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So finally, Troy Yekman comes out with pointed criticism which
really falls on the coach. The receivers are lazy, they're
un lazy routes.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's coaching.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Mike McCarthy yesterday comes out and says those words do
not land for me. Jerry Jones comes out this morning
and says, this.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Trow is credible boy, and should be.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And not only that, you can imagine he's not just
interested in taking a whack at the cowboys.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
He's very professional.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
If you criticized me and said, you know, Colin doesn't
work hard, and I said, Nick's words aren't credible, and
then my boss came out publicly and said, you know, Nick, boy,
you know he doesn't take shots.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You Nick, when Nick talks, you're gonna listen to that.
I'd be like, right, I'd call my agent. Can we
look for work here? I mean this is the end?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Like I mean I'm sorry that.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
So I have so many thoughts on this. First of all,
I'd never say you didn't don't work hard. I might
say maybe a few too many cigars and Bob called
the Rocks lately, but you've earned it, like you've earned
it because of all your hard work.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
So I, I.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Literally, Colin had not heard the Jerry Jones sound until
this very second. I had heard the Akman critique and
then the McCarthy response, and my initial thoughts were, Yeah,
I don't think you actually get to dismiss Troy Aikman's opinion.
I think coaches can just dismiss my opinion, your opinion,
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basically any media member's opinion, but when it is coming
from still connected to the game, Hall of Fame quarterback
like Tom hasn't done it. But if Tom Brady came
out and gave very pointed criticism about a specific team
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and then the head coach was like, basically like, ah,
what does he know, I'd be like, well, I think
that's a miss like you those that's a different type
of media criticism, right, and so I so my initial
response was, I don't think McCarthy should have just dismissed.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It that way.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
But now hearing in real time Jerry Jones' response, Yeah,
because he also Jerry had some comments that in this
interview that I did hear where he seemed to talk
about the team not being as well prepared or good
schematically yea as he would have hoped. Yeah, it's very
very clear to me that if the Dallas Cowboys don't
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at least make the conference championship game, Mike McCarthy's getting fired.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Not getting fired, just they're not bringing him back.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I don't think they're going to fire him during the year,
and I don't think that this is a big shock.
I just think McCarthy it's like, hey, we haven't made
to the NFC Championship game in thirty years.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
You're on a lame duck.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Jerry maybe should look inwards and say I didn't give
them enough talent. But Jerry Jones has a little bit
of Aaron Rodgers to him, which is, there's.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
A ton of problems here.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I don't know who's in charge, but it ain't my fault,
and so that what disaster this is who built this team.
So I do think McCarthy knows what the stakes of
the game are, which is, if we don't win at
least one and honest to god, probably two playoff games.
I'm out of here, and right now they're a coin
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flip just to make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And it's a tough spot.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
And by the way, Washington looks good, Chicago looks good,
Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I said this earlier.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
The top teams in the AFC and the top coaches,
and those are great wild card in the af SEA.
I take the Chargers today and they lost last night.
The NFC's tops and good. Yeah, you mean what a cup?
Speaker 6 (22:18):
I mean, my god, Colin Gowerd is gonna be turning
on TV wild Card weekend and it's gonna be a
Sean Payton game leading into a Sam Darnald game.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, there's might that might be a two cigar day.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I'm telling you right now, they're just gonna be head
over heels.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I mean, one of the great days of my life.
They'll probably both get boxed and and you know, the
Chiefs shall win by.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Wait, but still you'll have that Saturday afternoon. I mean,
it'll just be glorious, great seeing you buddy, Nick. Right,
first things for I didn't even think about that. He's right,
I better get prepared for that by some cohebas a
Donald Bonick Saturday, or you could get those for me.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I've been pretty I'm gonna now get your fund, your
cigar habit.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
Top of next hour. We missed him last week. Mark
Sanchez stops by. Also, NBA season starts tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Hey Jmax, I'm not even gonna get it. Is that
included your update?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
If not, we can touch on.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
We could probably get it. We could probably hit it in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The third hour, if you're interested.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
By the way, we both laughed, he was laughing at
something during the break and I'm like, what are you
laughing at?
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And I was laughing at that this morning when I
got up.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Sixer season opens tonight, Hey, hey Jmack, who's not available?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Paul George and Joel How do you never ends?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
It's a marathon, not a spring.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, the whole off season.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I can't get the opening game for Kawhi, Leonard, Paul
George or joelmb.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Also Chris Middleton's out for the for the Bucks.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, just eliminate those teams.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Clippers, Sixers, Milwaukee.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Take this baby.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You're not runny in game one. Forget it. J Mack
with the news. Turn on the news. This is the
herd Line news.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
So anytime Brock party emerges as a topic, just strap in.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
This is going to be fun. Let's get the honesty
out of the way early. He was bad Sunday.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay, three interceptions, thirty six point seven passer rating.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
They lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
After the game, the media made a lot about Kyle
Shanahan and Purdy having a conversation in the locker room. Shanahan, however,
was downplaying everything.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
I forgot everyone was still in there. We were just
hanging out talking about the game and things like that.
And when I looked behind you guys kind of scared
me and realized everyone was creeping so bad. But there
was That's just what we all do. We talk those
three picks. I know Brock would have loved to have back,
you know, they he didn't have anything on that last
one down in the red zone. But he's got to
sit there and take the sack so we can kick
a field goal and make it a six point game.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, it's I don't make a ton of it. What
do you well.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Head vast Brockberty, this is its open season.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, I mean I think you are judged as a
quarterback in the biggest moments. Receivers aren't. If a receiver
you know has one target in a big game, you're
not gonna crush him. You're gonna blame the quarterback of
the coach. This was a big moment.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Oh really okay? And he's most on week week seven.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But by the way, how did he do in the
NFC Championship Game trailing double digits to the Lions.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Oh, he brought him back and won the game. How
do you do in the Super Bowl? He outplayed Mahomes,
He just didn't deliver a touchdown. In overtime he delivered.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
A field goal. But now, so there's a hig game.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Those are bigger than Week seven, Colin.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But as the team gets older and creakier and falls apart,
you're now trying to make a judgment on if you
give him fifty five million, And in his last twelve
games he is six and six with a passer rating
of eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Saying give him fifty five million.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh that's you gotta make a decision in a year.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Why fifty five million? You got to pay him with
like Dak Prescott's making. No nobody said anything about that.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
That's insane. Fifty five mil.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And oh, by the way, let me just put this
out there. Deebo Samuel played at wopping three plays in
the game and now he's in the hospital. Christian McCaffrey
is probably in Germany getting some treatment on his legs.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Jennings who has emerged. You liked him. He had a
good Super Bowl, he had a good season so far.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He didn't even play, so brock Perty's fighting the Chiefs
the best defense in the league, best defensive cordend in
the league.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
With one hand tied behind his back, and we're gonna
kill him for three picks. He did not have a
good game.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Period, end of till. Let's just end with that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He did not have a good game at home on
a Kansas City team without Isaiah Pacheco, without rashi.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
He's a running back well, I mean Rashiye Rice and
wide receiver. That Chiefs defense is legit top three in
the league. Two.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Spagnolo is the best defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm not denying that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But then at home, you can't be terrible because you're
missing a few pieces, a few all the.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Best skill position guys, Hey, David Bell, do you know
how to run a freaking past pattern? He's a guy
who dropped pass against the ring.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Jordan Mason is currently the number two rusher in the NFL.
Trent Williams, George Kittle, you had pieces.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, he did not deliver it. It was a bad loss.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
But to try to like make this thing out of
rock Party, who I think is twenty and eight as
a starter in his career, and now you want to
cherry pick a couple of.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Twenty and eight in a division with Arizona Geno Smith
and the rebuilding Rams twenty and eight with Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I mean, I can get the stats team behind the
scenes to cherry pick all the games against teams over
five hundred.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Let me just say you can try that. But they're
out of cherries on that phone. Oh yeah, that farm
ran out of cherries to.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Pick Niners Cowboys. This week, I'm seeing four half.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I cannot love love the Niners. Love the Niners. This week.
It's my pick of the week.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I like an idiot bet at five thinking it would
go up. It's now coming down, so I'll bet it again.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Next story.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
We are contractually obligated to talk about the New York
Football yes, even though you and I don't want to.
DeVante Adams made his debut three catches thirty yards seem
like a hamstring sidelined him in the second half. Dante
believes there's a ton of potential with the weapons on
this roster.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
It's a lot of talent. I mean, the offers that
we got, the weapons that we have. I mean, when
I'm in the huddle of today multiple time, I'm just
looking around and it's kind of crazy. And then that's
almost what push you off even more, knowing that you
got those type of weapons and to come up short
and to put up fifteen points against a team that
I mean, obviously, I don't want to take anything away
from this team, but I feel like a lot of
it had to do with what we did to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
It's just a collection of talented players. It's not a
cohesive team. And that's not Aaron Rodgers' primary skill is
galvanizing a bunch of people. That's not what he is.
He's a bit of a front runner. That's not a criticism,
it's statistically true. He's better with a lead than trailing,
better when things are working, not working. I mean, that's
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just what. He's not a good fit. When Brady went
to Tampa, they had a bunch, they.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Were the Jets.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They were like, You're like, we had Jamis Winston. You're like, man,
they got a bunch of good players. They can't bring
it together. Brady's primary skill set is like unifying a
collection of talented players. Go back to Tampa. They look
just like the Jets. They had a couple of receivers
you liked. They had an interior defensive lineman. They had
an edge rush or a linebacker, a good corner. They
were the Jets. But Jamis couldn't bring them together. That's
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what Brady's personality is defined by. Aaron's is defined by artistic, aesthetic, beautiful,
contrarian solo act better leading than trailing. So you're asking
him to take the Buccaneers and galvanized like Brady did.
That's not his personality. It's not who Aaron is.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
This is a little troubling. So we've got a stat here,
colland check this out for the radio audience. We're looking
at the first seven games last year with Zechlison, Tim Boyle,
et cetera, and this season with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Thank you, Jet.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Record is worse, their point differential is wor, their turnover
margin is worse.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Talent, They're a worse football team with Eric with.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Much better talent. Greace Hall was hurt last year. He's healthy.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Can't blame Robert Solla, Guys, can't. He's gone, He's fired.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
No, right, got out of this hole. My whole point.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Who were blaming?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Who's the blame?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Call Mike Williams. We gotta throw him under the bus again.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Like they have much better players, they have two better tackles,
they have Devonte Adams and they lost.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Right's tough to the Eagles. Don't don't don't dact like that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Come on, I'm dislike he's a turnover machine at this point,
is he not?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yes? I mean I I say this.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
We tend to all of us as sports fans. We
love the prettier you are as a player, the more
we keep embracing you. We we love that aesthetic beauty.
I mean, James Harden still has a million fans and
you know come May in June, he won't deliver. His
game is pretty his game is unique. He's offensively gifted.
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That's the way it works. Aaron's the prettiest thrower of
the football. May be in the league Marino when he
was old, but they weren't good.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
They weren't good quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm just not going to get excited about the Patriots.
J just game this week, just seven favorites.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm just gonna go go watch the World Series. You
go for New York, call goal for the Dodger.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
There's a game on Sunday, There's a Friday game, Saturday.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, we got to put a game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I just don't care about the game this week. They'll
probably win because I'm not paying attention to drop but
bill Wood.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Final story Colin is Jaden Daniels had to leave the
game against the Panthers due to a rib injury early
in the first quarter. Did not return, So now he's
facing the Bears on Sunday, and of course the big
matchup Caleb Williams versus Jade Daniels. However, dan Quinn said
his quarterback is week to week.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
The status for Jayden will put down as week to week.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
As you guys know, it's a rib injury, and we'll
take him through you know, all the steps at practice
and assess how he's doing and keep working it through that.
We're hopeful he can play, but we'll also make sure
to take every precautionary step and do it smartly for
the player and the man.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So it's I still haven't seen a conclusive video where
he took a bad shot.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I will say we noted in the season opener.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Against the Bucks he was running too much. SAT's got
to get out of bounce. And I will just say
I know a lot of Washington fans remember what happened
to RG three.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He was having a great year and injuries and they
put him out their injuries. Remember that Seattle playoff game.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
Just yep.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
They don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
My guess is the market's telling you that he's not
going to play this week. Bears two and a half
point favorites on the road. Jayden has been better than
Caleb this year.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's undeniable.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I looked at the schedule, Commanders have the Giants divisional
matchup next week.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You just keep him out.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's a bigger game. I would I would just shut
him down.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Mariota, by the way, some of the events that said
he was he was one of the best quarterbacks this week,
and now he's playing with a lead.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The whole time.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Mariota's history is he doesn't stay healthy. But Marcus and play.
He just tends to be a bit. He's not reckless
throwing the ball. He's reckless with his body. But Marcus
Mariota's always been coachable, moves well, throws a nice ball.
He just struggles to stay healthy, and there's defensive front
can get fisty. For the record, this shows you how
much better Washington has run. Of all the old quarterbacks
(33:18):
on the market that you'd want as a backup to
Jaden Daniels, wouldn't you want Marcus Mariota. Stylistically it's the
same guy. I mean that that's the difference when teams
are well run. That's why we look at Miami and
we're like, how do you have two as a quarterback
and be horrible at backup? Jaden Daniels comp it's not perfect,
(33:39):
but he's more Lamar Jackson. But Mariota is a little
Jaden Daniels, mature, good in the room, control the ball, moves.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You worry a little bit about help.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's that another sign that Washington, even in the backup quarterback,
knows what they're doing now. Now finally, we.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Don't know if it's a broken rib brus. Ribley's really
not in a lot of details.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I saw him smiling on the field when he came
back out.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He didn't look like broken, no win singer or anything.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
If this were Week fifteen playoff, put on a flack jacket,
get the hell out there and get us to win.
Like I just my guess is he doesn't play this
week and Bears two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
I kind of like the Bears. It on the road
off of by.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah Seaymack with the news.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
And thanks for stopping by the Heard Line News.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
A lot of things going on. It's Mark Sanchez top
of Next Hour. We miss Mark last week, Rachel Nichols.
It's the NBA season and yes, Kawhi, Paul George, and
Joel Embiid are not available.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
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Speaker 3 (34:51):
Friday night on Fox. The Stage is set for an
iconic showdown.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shoe a Otani and
the Dodgers in a historic World Series. Class Game one
begins at seven pm Eastern un font.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
From Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So I'm reading this quote from Eagles coach Nick Siriani
Mark Sanchez top of next hour. He says, this is
Jalen Hurts talking about his coach. Jalen Hurts says, well,
Nick knows that I'm behind him, and he knows that
communicating is important amongst in a team sport, and he's
doing a really good job of doing that. Okay, the
(35:34):
new standard in Philadelphia for their head coaches don't yell
at fans. That's that's a no no. And communicating in
a team sport is essential. Oh boy, it's year four.
I'm watching Dan Campbell in year four. The culture's right,
(35:55):
the staff is right. The quarterback's the best he's ever been,
even better than McVeigh off o line. It's a muscle car.
I'm watching year four in Philadelphia and Nick Sirianni just
got scolded by the owner because he's yelling at fans.
But he is a good communicator in a team sport.
(36:21):
So the first when Nick Sirianni first got here, bad
press conference, and after about a year we're like, what
does he do? Because he gave up the play calling
to Shane Steichen, who's brilliant, and so that's not great.
Whenever you're asking about a coach, what does he do?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Not great?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
The CEO of your football team. The second thing is
is he a distraction? And I can't help but do
this when when when you have a new quarterback class
and one of them by year two you're like, whow
and one of them by year four You're like, I
don't know if he can if he can complete out routes.
I don't know what Sirianni does. They've taken away play calling.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
He didn't know.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
You shouldn't yell at fans. Now where the standard is?
You know, in a team sport communications vital. He's getting
good at that. It doesn't sound right. So here was
another Here here's Nick Sirianni this week on evolving as
a head coach.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
I just told the team that it happened. You know
a bunch of different ways. There was a bunch of
different ways that that I learned this this week. So
what I said to the team, is like, you know,
I put my head down. You know when you have criticism,
when you have those different things, you put your head
down and you work even harder.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah. I know that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
That's like a manual of cliches to succeed in business.
Put your head down, work harder. Yeah, we know that.
That's that's all.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Guys. When you get kicked in the growing you know,
you put your head down, work harder. It's year four.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You just learn that. I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not
trying to be mean, but like, that's not year four stuff.
Like I get you're an interim coach with the Jets.
You're inserted as a former player to coach, and after
a couple of weeks you're like, hey, I'm getting my
I'm getting my hands around this. Think I'm getting my
hands around the play calling. I used to call plays.
Now i'm the head coach. I've relinquished that play calling
(38:13):
defensive lead to somebody else, the linebacker coach. I get
that I've been learning on the job before, But if
I was learning on the job in year four here,
I wouldn't get year five. It sounds like it's just again,
I'm not saying you should always take jobs that are challenging.
Andy Reid getting his arms around Kansas City for the
(38:34):
first fifteen months.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Chip Kelly going from college to the pros in Philadelphia,
Doug Peterson first big job.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I'll give you a year get your arms around it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I get it. I totally get it. You shouldn't take
a job that's easy. But year four I want Dan
Campbell and I said this. I remember the first year
when Detroit was losing games, and I said this, and
go back and find the archive. I said, they're not
winning any games. Nobody in the league plays harder. I
think it was a game against Baltimore they lost at home,
(39:05):
and I'm like, they don't have nearly enough good players,
but that team plays hard. By year two, you're like,
you know that kneecap biting stuff, it's kind of what
I'm seeing. By year three, you're like, Wow, Dan Campbell works,
he knows what he's doing. We're in year four. You
can't be scolded because you're yelling at fans like you,
(39:28):
I understand your first game fans bark, you look up
say something, Okay, I don't know, and I'm probably you
know I'm just being too critical.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It'll probably all work out.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
All I know is this, when things don't go right,
you put your head down and you work harder.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Maybe i'm you know, I'm just being glib. Should probably
be nicer.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But it doesn't feel like it's It feels like they're
protecting him now, like he's saying stuff that it's getting.
It's kind of moving into a hey, like Jalen hurts, like, hey,
we got your back. He's learning on the job, which
I'm okay with. Not in year four of the job,
Philadelphia is too loud, is too big of an NFL job, Jacksonville,
(40:13):
I'll give you a little wobble. Philadelphia is not interested
in wobbling.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
In year four
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