3 & Out - Big name trades, KC gets a new weapon, Bryce Young is back, - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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What is going on everybody? Hopefully everyone's having a good Thursday,
nice beautiful week. Depending on where you live, it could
be cold. It's kind of hot where I am. But
hopefully everything's going well. And we got a lot going
on today. We had, you know, the trade market in
football has never been like the other team sports in

(01:57):
this country, definitely basketball and baseball, where star players get
traded in the middle of the season. I guess it
happened every once in a while, but not consistently like
those sports. Things have changed and we're starting to get
a lot more action, which is awesome because some things
in the NFL have changed, I would say for the worst.
This is something that has changed for the better, and
I want to talk about that. Obviously, we had a

(02:19):
big trade vch Andy Andy Reid trade for DeAndre Hopkins,
so the Chiefs get a little help on offense with
a I would say, still a pretty good player, not
maybe what he once was, but had a productive twenty
twenty three. Could any other big name players be on
the market. Andy Dalton was in a car accident, hurt

(02:41):
his thumb and is out this week. So Bryce Young
will start and I think he's got a pretty big
opportunity to resurrect his career. So we'll dive into that
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(04:51):
You know, for a long I mean basically most of
my life, you did not have big name players being
traded in football. It happened all the time in baseball.
I mean the trade deadline back when baseball was a
really big thing nationally was an enormous story. Obviously, in
the NBA you have had huge, huge superstars traded in

(05:14):
the middle of the season throughout the history of the league.
And in football, when you think about big trades, they happen.
They usually happen before the season. They tend to happen
right right after the NFL combine and during free agency
or right before the draft. Occasionally they happened during training camp,
but it's been very rare through the last i would

(05:37):
say twenty five years that big name guys like we've
seen just in the last week get traded in season.
Typically the Aaron Rodgers, the Khalil Max, I mean, you
name it, get traded outside of the course of the season.
That's completely changed. And this is one element of the

(05:57):
NFL that is a curve and is a complete positive
because I think there are a lot of factors here right.
We clearly have a lot of younger, more dynamic gms,
and a lot of these gms are friends with basketball
and baseball gms. I remember a couple of years ago

(06:18):
at the Combine talking with Howie on a podcast and
like one of his close buddies is Brian Cashman, like
Brett Veach talks to other gms in other sports. These
guys are all well connected, and it's not like I
would imagine the nineties or the two thousands, some of
these gms didn't want to make trades. But I do

(06:40):
think the economics of the league, because there's a reason
coaches consistently get fired more often now that paying someone
ten twenty thirty million dollars their entire staff to go
away is a line item. Now for these NFL owners,
it's an extra decimal point that they don't even notice. Well,

(07:01):
in the in the nineties, a lot of coaches probably
got more years than the ownership wanted to give them
because they didn't want to pay them to go away.
And I think with NFL contracts it was the same thing.
Like NFL contracts are not structured like baseball or basketball,
So big reason that these players and these other sports

(07:21):
got traded. If I signed you to one hundred million
dollar deal or fifty million dollar deal, money's all relative, right,
So the eighties nineties, whatever the contract number was, it's
kind of a pay as you go. Now, the contract
might be fully guaranteed, but if you have twenty thirty
fifty million dollars remaining on your contract, you have to
be on my team for me to pay that. So
why would you see in the NBA they just trade

(07:42):
this guy, Well, I don't know that guy any more money.
Or in the NFL it's completely different because money's not
guaranteed and a lot of you know, higher price guys
get big signing bonuses. So if I signed you to
a fifty million dollar contract, well, I'm probably historically less
inclined to try raid you after a one year if

(08:02):
it's not working out because of that fifty million, I
gave you twenty eight million dollars guaranteed real cash, And
if I guaranteed forty million dollars of the contract, I
had to put that away in escrow. So owners are like, well,
this isn't a pay as you go situation. It's much
more complicated. And I think nowadays, with the explosion of

(08:23):
the cap, with the explosion of the television money, they're like, yeah,
I know, we gave him a big bonus, but whatever,
screw it. Our coach doesn't want him, he doesn't fit here.
We can get some draft capital send him packing. I mean,
we just had a recent example last year when they
cut Russell Wilson. Think how much money the Walton family

(08:44):
gave him immediately when he signed that contract. Well, they're
worth billions upon billions upon billions of dollars. So yeah,
I gave him eighty million dollars or one hundred million
dollars or whatever. The I didn't look up the number
before I went on this rant. I probably should have,
But my point is they don't care. Were historically no
one would ever do that because most of these owners

(09:06):
weren't flush with cash like they are now, and they
didn't have the windfall of cash consistently coming in from television,
so you have the perfect combination of all these variables.
The owners have never had more money. And when you
win in the NFL. I'm not even talking to Super Bowl.
I'm just saying when you are consistently good your franchise

(09:27):
and you personally make way more money, so you are
way more inclined to be aggressive and do whatever it
takes to get a good team as quickly as possible,
and if that means getting rid of a big salary,
if you're losing the game, more draft picks in the
hope of you can flip those draft picks into good
players for cheaper like it makes sense. And if you're
the Buffalo Bills, if you're Brett Veach. Obviously, the Jets

(09:50):
are somewhat of a unique circumstance. But the one team
in the NFL I worked for was the Philadelphia Eagles,
who were kind of ahead of their time. Because how
is probably the most aggressive GM and Andy, because he's
such a good coach, has never been afraid of being
aggressive with personnel acquisitions. Now, historically a lot of them

(10:12):
have happened in the offseason, but you just saw Boom.
We need a wide receiver. Trade for DeAndre Hopkins, the owner. Yeah,
we'll do it. Let's do it. Here's a pick, right,
and we'll get into that specific trade here in a second.
But I think we all win because the NFL listen.
Is it perfect right now? If you've been watching the
league for a long time, No, it feels and I

(10:33):
hate saying this, but like super soft, but it kind
of does. Because some of these hits are constantly flagged.
You're like, this is egregious, but that's not gonna change,
so we can keep complaining about that all we want.
The amount of flags in some of these games, it
does feel like the conspiracy theorists that come out and
say they want more flags because longer games need more

(10:55):
ad times for the television Networks's like, I don't think
that's true, but wouldn't be the craziest thing. These networks
are paying so much money. But regardless, like the flags,
specifically the hitting and the lack of defenders having any
chance to have success does feel kind of crazy at times,
But overall, I think this element of some player acquisition

(11:17):
and player movement like this isn't the NBA where guys
just constantly demand to get traded and get their wishes
because you see a lot of guys make demands and
it doesn't get met. It to me, still is the
management I would say has the slight upper hand, but
I would say that is slowly and slowly changed over
the I would say explosion of contracts and clearly the

(11:42):
importance of the quarterback position. Like you can argue all
you want, like the Jets just do everything, Aaron Rodgers says,
but like, what are they supposed to do? Not listen
to him? Like they're kind of desperate. It all hinges
on the you know, his right arm. And I think
there has been a huge, huge growth of younger guys

(12:03):
that don't care and want to be aggressive become general
managers and a lot of younger coaches as well that
are more like, yeah, we'll figure it out, get them
here and we'll make it happen. I mean McVeigh that
they're pretty famous for making a lot of trades. Why well,
I'm the boss, will make this fit right. And I

(12:24):
just think that used to not happen because it's so
hard to get a guy change the scheme mid season.
He's not gonna know what's going on, and personnel people
are like, like we can't just trade for a corner,
like you can't just tell them, hey, on this play
play zone, on this play play man. I mean, I
know it's more complicated than that, but it's not as
complicated I think as some coaches make it. And now

(12:44):
I think there's this kind of an agreement between the owners,
the general managers, the coaching staffs that like, yeah, we
can trade for you know, impact starters in the middle
of the season, and it's worth it and we all
benefit because it's really really fun. I mean, we just
had Amarko, DeAndre Hopkins, and DeVante Adams traded in the
last what less than ten days, so that's cool. I'm

(13:07):
not actually eight because they were both traded on Tuesday morning,
and then DeAndre Hopkins traded on Wednesday morning, so a
week later. I'm glad it happened. And specifically on the Chiefs.
I looked at some numbers today. You know, the Chiefs
offensively are actually the fourth best third down offense. I

(13:27):
think it's only Baltimore, Detroit in Tampa. Now probably gonna
change with Tampa with the injuries they've had. But I
think when we think and talk about the Chiefs, we
go their offense has been terrible. Well, scoring wise, they
have not scored as many points as you would think
a team led by Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes would score.
But they have been efficient on third down, which is

(13:50):
obviously the most important down. And I think there's been
talk like Andy Reid doesn't go forward as much on
fourth down as some of these other coaches. Well, he's
probably in less fourth down SIUs than a lot of
other than some of these teams that are constantly there
because they're not as efficient on third ten one number
jumped out to me though, when looking at the Chiefs offense,
they are closer to twenty than they are to ten

(14:12):
when it comes to first down pass attempts, which kind
of makes sense, right they don't have full faith in
their receiving corps. I would say Andy has been more
inclined to run the ball these last couple of years
with the emergence of Pachaco, but then he shatters his
leg and watching him against the forty nine ers, they
like Worthy a lot, but he's still a rookie and

(14:33):
he's I don't want to say he's a one trick pony,
but he's got a specific role. They try to get
on big explosive plays. You wouldn't exactly call him a
possession wide receiver. Well, they kind of had a version
of that until Patrick Mahomes threw an interception and then
took him out in Rashid Rice and Travis who they
clearly clearly all they care about with him is the

(14:54):
playoff run, so they kind of like they're not rushing
to just force feed him ten twelve tards. It's a game.
I do think that could change down the stretch as
they are trying to solidify the number one seed and
obviously in playoff games, but in October and November, like
they're just not treating him like they used to, and
Patrick doesn't either, like he will throw two other guys,

(15:15):
so to me, getting DeAndre Hopkins, who is the ultimate
possession wide receiver, like he can't run, but he's never
been able to run. He's one of the great contested
catch guys, not just of his generation. I would say
the last like twenty five years. You just throw it
up in his vicinity and he tends to make a
lot of plays and I don't even count his like

(15:36):
whatever his numbers are this year are relevant to me.
Look at last year when he was on the field,
played in all the games. He got seventy five passes
with an anemic quarterback situation. So you get a guy
who can give you seventy five to eighty catches. He's
not in the prime of his career anymore, but he's

(15:57):
a guy that Patrick on first down like, can throw
the ball do and I think it balances out their
offense a little bit. Now, they didn't just trade for,
you know, some Hall of famer in his prime, but
they did get a credible pro who his game translates
to colder weather because he's not a speed demon, and

(16:19):
I think it's a pretty good fit. And the other
thing was they didn't give up very much. They gave
up a fifth round pick that for to kick into
a fourth round pick, they have to make the Super
Bowl and he has to play sixty percent of the snaps.
So if you make the Super Bowl again, they will
gladly give up a fourth round pick. Worst case scenario,

(16:41):
they lose in the AFC Championship. Gay gave up a
fifth round pick to dramatically help our offense and increase
our chances of winning playoff games and continuing to win
and maybe increase our margin for error in these regular
season games, because their margin for air or so far
in these regular season games has not been very big.

(17:03):
So I'm glad these trades like Amari Cooper to the Bills,
DeAndre Hopkins, I looked at a couple other names. I
read this article today on The Athletic about the Cleveland Browns.
Two things jumped out. One the writer wrote that, you know,
because Jamis is starting this week, and he basically wrote
that Thompson, Robinson and Jamis were easily the best two

(17:25):
quarterbacks in training camp. Think how crazy that is. You
have a two hundred obviously he's injured down and who
knows we ever seen him again playing for the Cleveland Browns.
But you have a two hundred and thirty million dollar
quarterback and he's not even remotely close to your best
quarterback in camp. So the guy we saw throughout the season,
we shouldn't be that shocked because he's not even the

(17:46):
best quarterback on their own team, which we saw last
year when Joe Flacco came was dramatically better. But I
do think when you have an asset and you are
going nowhere and your quarterback situation is a disaster. I
think the more options you have, you have to entertain,
and I think with the Raiders and the Browns they

(18:07):
have the two most powerful assets if they wanted to sell,
and you probably could include the Titans with Jeffrey Simmons.
I'd be lying if I said I've watched a lot
of Titans. I don't know how Simmons is playing, but
if he's healthy, he would have a lot of value
as well. You're not talking about a guy that you
could just trade mid season for a first round pick
if you were willing. We've talked a lot about Crosby, right,

(18:30):
I think they could probably get two ones for him.
I also think Miles Garrett is twenty eight years old,
but I think you'd get two once. You know. To me,
the minimum you would get would be like a one
to two and next year's two. So I think you've
got to entertain these calls because the one thing we
know is these gms are willing to play ball, all

(18:52):
these gms who feel like we're close, we can win
the Super Bowl this year or right there, because you
would go, well, you would never trade a guy like
that in your division. Well, what if the Ravens offered
you two first round picks for Miles Garrett, Like your
team is going nowhere and there's no end in sight.
Hel Kevin Stefanski, who is an excellent play caller. It's

(19:12):
just like, yeah, I'm just gonna let Ken Dorsey do it.
This season is such a joke, such a disaster here
like that, that's how's it gonna change next year? Like
you're not making the playoffs with dtr or Jameis Winston.
So I just think that you have to entertain these
calls are being made and these meetings are happening, and
I do think you have to get to a point

(19:33):
where is there a price where we would pull the trigger?
Is there a price? Right? Like obviously the good teams,
there is no price you could pay to like trade
for Chris Jones because Chiefs want to win the Super
Bowl this year. Even if it's like, hey, we give
you three first rounders, well yeah, that's quote unquote an overpay.
But his value to the Chiefs is so important and

(19:54):
all they care about right now is win the Super Bowl.
But you get these terrible teams with the second most
important position, arguably the pass rusher, and they're elite players,
and your franchise is circling the drain. I'm not saying
it's an easy decision. I'm not saying it's a no brainer,
but I think once we get in the two first

(20:15):
rounder conversations with guys that are closer to thirty than
they are twenty five, Like, we got to think long
and hard about this, especially because we got to change
the quarterback position. And it doesn't necessarily have to be
this year. Like if you end up not drafting one
and you think only Shador standards a worth the number
one overall pick, start building the team, but then the

(20:38):
following year you also got two first rounders and you
got some AMMO. It gives you optionality. And I'm not
one for tanking. I think it's that's been a huge
reason the NBA ratings have tanked load management and tanking.
The NFL does not have that right. The reason if
Jayden Daniels doesn't play this week is not because they're
giving him a rest, it's because he's hurt. The only

(20:59):
time guy doesn't play in the NFL is in he's injured,
and we all acknowledge it's like, yeah, this guy couldn't play,
because if he could, most of them play injured, let
alone like or attempt to. They usually work out before
the game and beg to play, and sometimes the doctors
say no. But I'd have to think long and hard
about those two players if I can get two first rounders,

(21:20):
and I would imagine these young gms that are kind
of gunslingers and willing, which I appreciate. Like I'm a gambler.
I've gambled my entire life. I'm not even just talking
about like on sports. I'm just talking on life. I'm
inclined to take more risks, I would say than most people.
I kind of like it. That's the one area in
my life to kind of get my juices flowing. I

(21:43):
would never but I would also never go skydiving, right.
I would never go cage diving for sharks like that.
That's not what gets my blood fucking moving. I would
rather just like, not work in this industry, start my
own shit and see what I could do. Right. I
like taking risks, and I think historically a lot of
gms in the other sports have been willing to and

(22:07):
swing for the fences, and in the NFL, once the
season started, it felt like they were very risk adverse.
And now it feels the opposite. So these are two
type players that I do think you could get a
boatload and completely change the future of your franchise. Now,
it also comes down to, like I saw Khalil Mack
was traded for a couple first round picks and they

(22:29):
picked bag players. Like, once you make the trade, it
is on you to pick the right players or utilize
those picks in trades or whatever to accumulate the right talent.
So it's not like only fifty percent of your work
is done, but man, I would be inclined to let
it fly. Other story today, Andy Dalton was in a

(23:00):
car accident and I saw Canalis said that he he
sprained or hurt his thumb, so he obviously the headline
I saw, I would imagine you can't grip a ball,
But all things considered, better just hurting your thumb than
something serious happening in a car accident. So looks like
he avoided disaster. But that means Bryce Young is going

(23:23):
to start and listen, I'm not acting like playing Monday
morning quarterback here. I love Bryce Young in college. I
would have taken him number one overall, So by no
means in my calling them dumb for drafting him over CJ. Strout.
I would have done the same thing. I would have
now that age poorly immediately, and it got even worse
this year because he was unplayable. He looked like a

(23:47):
USFL quarterback, which is insane because watching him in college,
his instincts, his ability to manipulate the pocket. I just
thought a lot of things would translate, and it turns
out one thing I underestimated is God, he looks small.
He just feels like one of the smallest players in
the history of the NFL, definitely at that position. So

(24:08):
I think he has two options now, and I think
one of them can get really dire. But let's start
with the positive. One. He can change the course of
his career if he comes back and just looks solid
and wins a couple of games. One, he can help
them avoid get the number one overall pick in drafting
a quarterback. And two, he can just at least validate. Okay,

(24:30):
we took a step back. It's like going on time out.
You know, when you're a kid or getting grounded, it's
supposed to like give you a reset. You're supposed to
go away for a minute, go on, go on time out.
Get suspended. If you're get in a little trouble at school,
come back new guy. Sorry, I'll wear it. It was
on me, change man, here, change kid, which rarely happens.

(24:53):
It's like I'm a big mob movie guy, so I
follow so much mob stuff, like on Instagrams. It's a
tried and true formula. Dude gets in trouble, goes to jail,
comes out a couple of years later, he's like a
change man, and like three minutes later he's back wheeling
and dealing with his boys. And then he gets arrested again.
But he really has two options. It's either play well

(25:16):
and change the discourse about him, which has been one
hundred percent fair. Again they benched him for a reason
he was unplayable, or you kind of become Trey Lance.
Like Trey Lance is a third quarterback. He can't win
backup jobs. And I think if Bryce Young continues to
look like he did before he was bench for Andy Dalton,

(25:39):
I think that's what you're looking at. You're looking at
a third stringer. So this guy, within a couple of
years can go from the number one pick starting quarterback
to he couldn't be any worse. He's a he's a
guy that we bring to camp if he's traded or
cut to compete for our backup job. And right now,

(26:01):
if he were to look like he looked earlier in
the season, you could not make him your backup quarterback
because as we see all over the NFL, all it
takes one ankle, spring, one spring shoulder, one broken finger,
and you can't grip a ball and your backup's playing
not just in that game, but he might have to
start several games. And if he's the type player and

(26:22):
he keeps proving what he's been in the NFL, I
can't even compete with Like he couldn't complete wheel routes
in out routes, Like do you even have a chance
in the NFL as just to make a roster at quarterback.
Obviously you got to know the playbook. You gotta be
a smart guy, and you gotta be tough. But like
from a playing standpoint, I don't need my backup to

(26:44):
be super dynamic to hit go routes and post routes
and run around, but I do need you if I
have to start you for a short period of time
to be able to hit basic passes. An out route
on third and seven, a wheel route on second, and
eight a slant route that's open against the specific coverage

(27:05):
that we consistently call. Right, I understand that the big
play potential, if I have a good starter, is going
to drop dramatically. No shit, he's the backup quarterback. But
I do have to be able to function as an
offense to hopefully my defense carries us. We run the
ball and ideally you attempt less than twenty five passes

(27:27):
on the games you have to start, but I need
you to complete fifteen to eighteen of them. And you
watch Bryce Young, He's like, God, this isn't even close.
So I'm fascinated to watch this play out. I change
my opinion on him really really fast because of a
size and listen, Kyler's tiny. But you watch Kyler, you go, well,

(27:49):
he's the fastest guy in the field. His arm strength
looks like fucking mahomes, you know, like his really only
not because he's short, but he makes up for it
with all these elite athletic traits. And you watch Price,
you go, well, he's not very fast. His arm looks terrible,
he's not very accurate. It's like he doesn't really bring
anything to the table. Tangibly. Maybe he's a good guy,

(28:13):
maybe he knows the offense and you like him in
the meeting room. But like all that stuff's great, but
if you're gonna play like you got to bring some
tangible stuff to the field. So this is a big
moment for him because to me, if he plays well
and just shows something. And this is a tough spot too,
Like he's going on the road to Denver, who is

(28:36):
not a great team, but their defense is really good
and they're coming off somewhat of a mini bye because
they played on Thursday. So can he go on the
road in an environment? I mean, this is probably one
of the more optimistic Denver seasons. It feels like in
years right, their fans think like, why can't we win
nine ten games and get a wildcard spot even if

(28:57):
we're out in the first round. What an improvement that
is from the last several year years. So this is
gonna be tough. It could either unravel fast or you
could earn like, oh shitty, this guy's that served him well.
And if I was a betting man, I would bet
it's not gonna go well. But and I probably I
plan on betting against them, even though it's a massive

(29:18):
line just because from what I've seen, it's been horrendous. Uh,
let's bang out a couple other quick things. Shanahan says
that McCaffrey not gonna play this week, should or potentially
could practice next week. I do believe this is one
of the more mysterious injuries we've ever seen, because clearly

(29:39):
it's more than just like achilles soreness. Obviously it was
in both achilles, but to go to almost Halloween, I
guess by the time they play next week, we'll be
after Halloween and we haven't seen Christian McCaffrey. Not what
I expected. Honestly, I was pretty bullish in training camp.
I'm like, just holding him out. Kyle keeps saying he
could play if they had do, and then by the

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time the regular season came, it got worse. So this
is one of the big I would say X factors
in the NFL that if he can come back and
just be normal. I mean, you talk about the trade
deadlines like adding Christop McCaffrey, but it's hard to be
optimistic when I've seen so many players, I mean, we

(30:21):
all have that have achille soreness, that have achille sorness
and then the thing rips. So it's just something to
keep an eye on whenever he does come back, like
is he completely fine? And then to me, the big
test would be if he does play in a game
and does look good, what's the next day, like, can
he walk? Is a soreness gone? Is he just back

(30:41):
to normal? So the other thing that McCarthy was asked
about Jerry talking shit about his play calling and bad designs,
and Mike was like, yeah, I guess we'll just have
to go back and look. I mean, it's just it's difficult.
It's we talked about it yesterday, and I heard Albert

(31:03):
Breer with Colin today that he thinks Jerry takes a
lot of shit for just kind of willy neely saying
this stuff. And he thinks some of this is like
sly like a fox old guy, you know, holding out
on CD and Dak trying to light a fire under them,
saying all this stuff about Mike trying to light a
fire under them. And I do agree that that's possibility

(31:27):
that he's trying to kind of play some motivational tactics
I don't quite know what, like saying your play calling
sucks does to really motivate anybody, because I do think
it's fair to assume that Mike McCarthy so far this
season has been doing the best of his ability to

(31:50):
get guys open and scheme plays. Like I don't think
he's tried any less hard on a Wednesday or a Tuesday,
designing the game plan Monday, breaking down film with his
offensive staff. Then he would have two years ago, with
years remaining on his contract, when he had winning records,
Like I don't know, Like I don't know, I don't

(32:12):
know what good that serves the totality of the operation
beside like, yeah, listen, there's heat on my feet here,
Like I'm walking on you know, on hot coals because
I don't have a contract. Like if that's not motivation enough,
like clearly you got the wrong guy. And that's kind
of what it's feeling like that if this continues and

(32:34):
they lose, that it's just a foregone conclusion that Mike
McCarthy will not be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys anymore.
Robert Sala was in Green Bay today and Lafleur was
asked about it and said that he will work with
the offense, you know, be like the Sometimes coaches do this.
I remember when when I first got into radio, Harbad

(32:55):
did this with Eric man Gini. He had Eric man
Genie as like on the offensive side of the ball,
working like a defensive guy, helping the offense what to see.
Coaches kind of love doing that shit. But ultimately I
think it's just a really good friend taking care of
his guy. And I would expect Robert Sala, I think
it's still owed money. Next year, if he does want

(33:17):
to coach, he will be on the Packer staff. And
if this Packer team continues to do well and Jeff
Hafley gets a job as a young defensive coordinator who's
been a head coach at Boston College, that Robert Sala
would be his next defensive coordinator. Last, but not least,
Alvin Kamara. Every once in a while, it's like satan
and shambles, you know, then they were my team to

(33:38):
win the division, which clearly isn't gonna happen. And then
you're just like, this is a season from hell. And
then all of a sudden you look and it's like, oh,
we've signed Alvin Kamara, who looks awesome, by the way,
to a two year twenty five million dollar contract extension.
You're like, that's kind of random. Now, I think ultimately
he's a guy that you want on your team, that
is a winning player, who's you know, one of the

(33:59):
best in the NFL. And when you do this stuff
for a team that's, you know, historically in cap hell,
in a weird way, it actually lightens your cap because
you're able to keep pushing money back. So I would
imagine this is the type move where you go, listen,
I want Alvin Kamar on my team next year. We
give them this contract extension. It actually frees up space

(34:19):
for us in the offseason. But I didn't see h
October twenty third with the Saints several games under five
hundred starting Spencer Rattler, No hope in sight. Yeah, contract
extension here you go, Alvin. But hey, it's New Orleans
for you. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff two f's

(34:50):
it's my name? Whoever thought of the at in front
of all the handles And like Instagram and Twitter, that's
kind of a genius, kind of differentiates everything from Shane
question for the bag. Last Sunday, Mahomes had a long
run where he was giving himself up on the sideline,
so the defensive player stopped. Then he turned up the

(35:11):
sideline for a big game, the defensive player would have
been called for a late hit if he would have
hit him, because Patrick gets every one of those calls,
even if he's sniffing the line. Think it's unfair for
quarterbacks to get protected when it serves them, but they
can take advantage of it. He should be called down
the second he slows down and pretends to give himself up.

(35:31):
Curious your take on the solution. I think Bosa, when
asked about it after the game, essentially said the same
thing that it's completely unfair because these guys are taught
now that you can't hit them on the sideline. It
was the longest run of Mahomes' career, so I'm in
total agreement. Once you get close to the sideline as

(35:52):
a quarterback and you do that cutback, the ball should
be down because you get every other advantage. These guys
slim blow up and don't touch you. So I'm with you.
It is completely unfair to the defensive players. What are
they supposed to do? Because you're right, if someone in

(36:12):
the forty nine or safeties were hitting what if the
young safety Mustafa would have lit his world up. We
know exactly what would have happened. He would have got
a fifteen yard penalty. Hell, he might have been thrown
out of the game. So I don't blame Mahomes for
doing it. You're just taking advantage. It's like telling my accountant, like,
that's loophole's fucking use it. I want to keep that
money and I want to give it away. So until

(36:34):
they fix that loophole, it's going to continue to be used.
I've heard rumors about the Vikings potentially trading for Stafford.
If this to help a clear path for JJ McCarthy
when he gets back, or is there more to it
with them, Well, obviously Cooper Cup is on the trading block.
The problem for Cooper Cup is they want a really

(36:59):
high pick because they value him a lot. And if
you look at his game logs from the last three years,
he's missed a ton of games and he's no longer
the dominant player that he once was because he's always injured.
So like DeVante gets traded and he goes for what
a third Well, the last two years he's got over

(37:20):
one hundred catches and I just think even DeAndre Hopkins
last year had seventy five catches. Cooper Cups injured two
years ago. He's currently injured. I think he's coming back now,
like he just injured a lot. So like you would
have to be high on crack cocaine to give a
second round pick for Cooper Cup. And that is the

(37:41):
reports of what people want. But I think people go, well,
if Cooper Cup's on the block and they're kind of
resetting this thing, what about Matt Stafford. Well, the connection's
easy because Kevin O'Connell was with the Rams with Matt Stafford,
so they know each other. My question would be it'd

(38:04):
be pretty cutthroat that they've had all off season, all
training camp, and now all season with Donald and they've
had success. They literally just lost their first game, which
they easily could have won. So if Donald would have
been a flop, totally understand it. Says trade for him,
figure it out later. I think sometimes in the NFL,

(38:24):
more than these other sports, you just live in the
moment because you're not really especially if you're Kevin O'Connell
and your Flores and you have this team, it's like,
could we make the NFC championship game. You're not worried
about JJ McCarthy's feelings or what are we gonna We'll
figure that out when we come to it. What's the
worst case scenario, Matt Stafford starts for US next year

(38:45):
and JJ backs him up, and if Stafford gets hurt,
JJ just comes in. So I think it would be
one of the Stafford's better player than Sam Donald obviously,
but it's kind of working. And to me, this is
where Tomlin gets a lot of credit. He knew his
locker room, he knew Fields wasn't good enough as a passer,

(39:09):
and while Russell is not as good as he once was,
is way better in fields at throwing the go route
and the ability to get pickings involved. And that clearly
changed their offense, which then opens up their run game,
which the running backs are healthy and they slice and
dice the Jets. But like, if you did make this move,
you would have to acknowledge, Yeah, I don't think the

(39:29):
guys love Sam Darnald, which definitely doesn't feel the case,
like that's not Sam Donald's demo. People like the guy,
so that that would be totally would get it if
you weren't if you were three and three, it's like
we need a spark. I think it would be pretty
and I get it's pro sports, but I'd be I'd

(39:50):
be a little surprised if that happened. I haven't looked
at the obviously, Stafford makes a ton of money. Do
you know what I think the Rams want to do.
I think they want to blow it up so they
can kind of They've already kind of reset it with
a lot of younger players. Their defense is really young,
draft a quarterback and kind of pivot. The problem is
McVeigh so good it would be hard for them ever
to win like three or four games, Like they'll always

(40:12):
end up winning six or seven even in worst case scenario.
It's clear Kyle is having a down year. But something
that hasn't talked about much is how many offensive coaches
he has lost since he's been a head coach of
the forty nine ers. Do you think that is affecting
his game planning and calls? Well, I think part of

(40:33):
being a young star head coach McVeigh Kyle Lafleur is
you're going to lose a lot of coaches, especially when
your staff is young. You know, the one thing Kyle
had is a lot of young dudes. There were his dudes, Slowick, Kubiak,
Mike McDaniel, right Lafleur's brother who went with Sala, Like

(40:57):
these these aren't like sixty year old retreads, like these
are young, hungry guys itching to become OC's. So like,
you get to mold those guys and do everything you want,
and they become reflections of you. And when you lose
those guys, like you're gonna miss every once in a while, Right,

(41:18):
you're gonna hire a guy to take over for McDaniel
or to take over for Slowik, who might not be
as good. It's human nature. If you hire ten straight people,
some are gonna be better than others, even if you're
great at hiring, just based on the candidate pool. And
the other thing with a candidate pool is like a
lot of guys maybe he would want are under contract

(41:40):
and he doesn't have access to because he's not hiring
you to call plays. He can give you titles passing
game coordinator, run game coordinator, quarterback coach, assistant head coach.
But like, I can't steal anyone if I'm not making
you a coordinator, so which he's not, because he's the
play caller. I do think though, Yeah, I don't know

(42:02):
how to quantify that, Like it's hard to put a
tangible value on what that means one way or the other.
But I think Kyle's has been bad in the red zone,
Like is he just having kind of an off year?
Is his offense a little out of sink? Is it
all tied together? I think it's very, very possible. But

(42:24):
at the end of the day, you're the boss. Is
on you, Like Andy Reid lost a lot of coaches,
Belichick lost a lot of dudes, Like you get paid
all that money for a reason. Jim Harboss lost a
shitload of coaches over the last fifteen years. Same with
John I mean, they get paid a lot of money
for a reason. It's on you to figure it out.
It's a hard part about being the boss. Question for

(42:48):
the bag, big, big Vikings fan, what do you think
that Viking should do with Sam Darnold, who has played
an Elite level four out of the first five games.
I elite would be a little strong for the Lions game.
I would go elite level the first three. I would
say the Jets game not, and I would say the
Lions game, like really good quarterback play. I wouldn't go elite,

(43:11):
but I hear what you're saying. I know we are
only going into week seven of the season, but you
mentioned with Coward that teams do these conversations very early. Well,
think about it, like whatever business you're in, you kind
of always talk about everything. You talk about short term,
you talk about long term. You're just constantly having these conversations.

(43:32):
I've said it and I'll say it again. The conversations
that like the GM and his scouts would have, or
the scouts and the offensive coordinator have in their offices today,
aren't that much different than the ones you and I
would have if we cracked a couple of beers watched
the game to night. I don't even know what games
on tonight, not I guess the NBA starting to night,

(43:53):
but just bullshitting' about football, Like it's the same things,
like what do you think about Sam right? Should we
keep him next year? Like what do you think is
JJ gonna be ready? Like you're constantly having those conversations.
It's just they have the power to extend them, not
extend them. That's back to the question about Stafford, that
the only way they would trade for Stafford is because

(44:18):
their belief in Sam is nowhere near as high as
the way he's played, and they think it's smoking mirrors.
Of course, we drafted McCarthy. But my argument is that
letting Sam Donald walk and saving thirty or forty million
off the cap doesn't guarantee JJ will play at an
elite level in twenty five, especially coming off a season

(44:38):
ending injury and taking the fields for the first time
in non preseason action at the highest level of football.
It seems risky to me to go that route. I
personally would sign Donald if he keeps up even eighty
percent of this level. I'm kind of with you. I
think a lot is going to be determined about obviously
how he plays in November and December, and then in

(45:00):
what he looks like in the playoffs. Because let's be real,
if you guys win the division and win a playoff
game and are in the NFC Championship game, even if
he just plays okay in that game and you lose,
you're just gonna get rid of him for a rookie. Now, Also,
like what's his price point? Like, do we get a

(45:22):
Daniel Jones contract. He's making ten million dollars this year,
So if he plays, He's got twelve touchdowns and five picks.
So let's say he ends the season and he is
sixty six percent, which is I would say, you know,
pre softness of the NFL is closer to sixty. Like

(45:43):
he's not. I wouldn't call him mister accurate though he's
made some big time throws. Let's say he throws thirty
touchdowns this year and has eleven picks. What is the
likelihood next year of JJ McCarthy doing that? Right, Who's
essentially just going to be a rookie? Played in a
couple was it two preseason games or just one? He

(46:03):
did make some sweet plays in the first preseason game played.
But the chance is that a guy who's never played
in the NFL in regular season games is gonna throw
thirty or have the ability to throw thirty plus touchdowns
feels pretty extreme, especially factoring in like well Caleb, Well,
why I'm watching Caleb throw a bunch of touchdowns or
Jaden games throw a bunch of touchdowns? Well, it's like, yeah,

(46:26):
in college, they were asked carry my ass, chuck that
bad boy around like they were used to playing like that,
where Sam's kind of the opposite. He comes in playing
like Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty nineteen. Man is a game, brother,
So yeah, I think the thing was talking about this stuff,

(46:47):
you know, and people get so up at arms like
you said this. Now you're taking it back, like, yeah,
all the shit's fluid. Things change by the week, by
the month. It's like stocks. This is stock market on grass.
Things go up and things go down. And right now
his stock is clearly up. But the reason like Apple
or Google or some of the costco like they're up forever, right,

(47:10):
they have some downturns, but for the majority you invest
in them over the last ten years, they go up.
Same thing with like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and
Aaron Rodgers, like for the large with guys like this,
there's still a lot of unknown. Did he just turn
around his career. He's gonna be a good player. I
like him now. Would I sign him to the Daniel
Jones contract today? Probably not? But you would also risk

(47:33):
Like what if the season ends and he throws thirty
four touchdowns and you are the number one seed? How
much does it cost then? Are we talking like two
in numbers? Is that what he would get on the
open market? Is that what the Raiders or a team
like that Seattle like who would pay him? So it
gets very risky. They're in a good spot in the

(47:53):
short term because it got Sam Darnold right and they
drafted a quarterback, but they're in a weird spot in
the long because the dude they drafted needed some work.
Even if he wasn't playing, A practice would have been
huge for him. Hurt his knee out for the season,
and this player is not under contract now I'd have

(48:15):
to text around, like I guess, worst case, if you
got into a pint, you could franchise him. Do you
think Oklahoma could hire Joe Brady as their offensive coordinator?
He will always play second fiddle to Josh Allen in Buffalo,
But if you could turn around oklahoma shit show of
an offense and have them competing next year, he would

(48:37):
get one hundred percent of the credit. Well, here's the
thing in the NFL. If you're an offensive coordinator with
a star quarterback, that job is better than any offensive
coordinator job in college. I've always thought every NFL job,
even the worst ones, are better than college jobs like Ohio, State, Texas,

(49:02):
you name it, are better than the Jacks. I think
with money, I think it's changed a little bit. Like
you could argue the Ohio State job, the Texas job, now,
the Georgia job. What Alabama had was sab in forever
is a better job than the Jacks, is a better
job than the Raiders. So there are we could argue

(49:24):
on what that number is. But there are definitely some
college jobs that I would understand, Like I would rather
have the Ohio State job than that job. But if
I'm going to be a coordinator at both spots, being
the coordinator for Josh Allen is better than any coordinator
job in college, every freaking one. And honestly, it's not close.

(49:47):
Because if I stay with Josh Allen and we win
like we're doing, and we get hot in the playoffs
and we're in the AFC Championship Game or we make
the Super Bowl, or hell, we win one, my careers
changed for and I'm gonna be head coach in the
NFL and have my pick of the litter in college.

(50:07):
So I think the question mark is would you hire
Joe Brady? I saw Venables is Listen, this is the
season from hell. Like they ain't gonna change. They have
too many injuries. Talking to my guy on the sideline, Well,
he was on the sideline. I was up against the
wall because you boy didn't have sideline pass for the game.
Didn't want to ask, what wasn't trying to A lot

(50:29):
going on, Like the injuries they've had are insane. So
I think Venables gets next year to kind of prove,
Like you know, he's had two of three losing seasons.
Last year was good, but his first year and obviously
this year disaster. Why couldn't Joe Brady be the head
coach there? I mean, assuming he even wants to mess

(50:51):
around with college, but I don't think you leave for
a college offensive coordinator job. If you're an NFL offensive
coordinator job with Josh Allen as your quarterback, especially with
the defensive head coach, like you get a lot of
you get a lot of leeway in that situation. Big

(51:12):
Packer fan, I am loving the gun slinging style of love.
It's possible he's gonna break my heart in the playoffs
with the with an untimely pick, but for now I'm
enjoying his just let it rip style of play, especially
after the more cautious, risk adverse style of Aaron in

(51:34):
his later years. At least obviously turning over the ball
is not ideal. But do you think there's a tide
turning in the NFL regarding interceptions. I know you're a
guy who likes to swing big in life. Is it
throwing more interceptions over the course of the season if
you're also constantly pushing the ball down the field as
opposed to more conservative dink and dunk play. I think

(51:57):
no one has a problem with interceptions as a coaching
staff if you're also making a lot of explosive plays
and scoring a lot of touchdowns, So interceptions kill you
in the red zone, I would say an interception in
the red zone. As rich gannon one said on a
broadcast not my words, that he was told by a coach.

(52:18):
He didn't give the coach his name, it's fair to
assume it's when he was on the Raiders. Might not
even have been a head coach, so it might not
have been Gruden. That throwing a pick in the red
zone is the equivalent of a baby dying, and so
On my other podcast that I had for years with
Guy Haberman, we used to call it the baby zone,
that when you throw a pick, you know in the

(52:39):
baby zone, it's a problem. And again not my words this.
He said it on CBS that I think it was
during a Raiders game, or might have been during a
Niner game when Jimmy Garoppolo threw a pick in the
red zone. But to me, red zone picks are bad,
that they are killers. But like when you're just driving
and you're you're letting it rip and I can live

(52:59):
with it. I also think the timing of interceptions, right,
I think there's a time in place if it's a
second quarter and it's ten to fourteen and I'm fucking
just free lancing and making plays, like I can live
with it in the fourth quarter of a tie game
or a game where I'm down three and there's six
minutes left, and this might be one of my last possessions.

(53:21):
I do need to be more cautious, but I can
always handle picks when you're throwing a lot of touchdowns.
Like if you say, hey threw fourteen interceptions, wasn't there
a big difference of it's like, well, he only threw
eighteen touchdowns, or it's like, hey, through thirty eight touchdowns.
It's like these things aren't equal. And I think that's

(53:43):
a huge part of like part of with the denk
and dunk style, like you're just not going to score
as many points. I feel like for the most part,
the Packers are a threat to score thirty points in
every game. And that's with him turning the ball over.
I think one thing that the gun slinging style is
throwing the ball over the middle. Willy nilly is I

(54:07):
would imagine something that drives La floor nuts. Every once
in a while, you get tricked on a pick on
an out route and a guy playing zone, then he's
playing man or you think he's in man. The underneath
guy drops in the zone like okay, it's football. It's hard.
I mean, those guys drive big cars or nice cars
and live in big houses too. To me, some of
the picks he throws over the middle of the field.

(54:29):
We gotta be a little cautious because when you do
play a great team like you're playing the Lions ENTI game,
that could be the difference, and that's the difference why
you don't win the division. Or I haven't looked at
your schedule, but like how many great defenses you play,
let's pull them up really quick, the Green Bay Packers.
So you play the Jaguars this week. Then you play

(54:55):
the Lions. That's a pretty big game at Lambeau. Then
you go to Chicago, that's a big game. Then you
play the forty nine Ers. It's a big game. Dolphins.
We'll see if Tua can resurrect them, but you're you
guys are way better than them. Then you go at Detroit,
at Seattle Saint Stink end with at Minnesota versus the Bears.

(55:19):
So I think in these divisional games, like, you guys
still control your own destiny. You guys can still win
the division, you can still be the number one seed
in the conference. You're actually in great shape, even though
it's weird, like you guys technically are in third place
in the division. I guess you lost to Minnesota at home,
but you get them again. And I actually think you

(55:40):
guys are pretty built to play in a dome. So
right now you've only you've only played the one divisional game. Yeah.
I like gun Slingers, but I do think there's a
time in a place, and like you said, like what
Rogers was doing later on his career, one it was
you know a lot of people sneaky criticize him like

(56:02):
Aaron you can take some shots here. But it was
working and you guys were winning. But then he got
in the playoffs. Sometimes, like Aaron you gott, I got
a little rip lifelong Broncos fan. Here. Should fans be
worried about Peyton's offense? It looks so simple at times,
and I believe he is the lowest motion rate in
the NFL by a long shot. Are his times of

(56:24):
being a premier offensive mine over? Uh? I would say
he's been he was hand. I can't judge him last year,
so I'm gonna throw away last year. And I said
this if you listen to the podcast after the Thursday
night game, you guys knew after the preseason night some
I'm guilty. Sometimes I get excited. I was like, God,
Bo looks good, and then I've been a little disappointed

(56:48):
in the regular season. I actually think for the most
part he's been below average. Like you said, they're not
asking him to do much. And I even thought in
that Saints game, it's like, God, he yes a series
where it's like, is this the biggest project you've ever seen?
It looks like he's processing slow. It just looks off,
which is weird. No one in the history of college

(57:08):
football has started more games. And it's not like he
played at UC Davis and some small school in Texas.
I mean, this guy started at Auburn and then Oregon,
so like basically the overwhelming majority of his conference games
for five years mattered a lot. I mean, this guy's
played in massive games, from the Iron Bowl against LSU,

(57:29):
against the Born Washington against Utah. Like, this guy's been
playing real team for a long time in front of
millions of people and massive crowds. And then you watch
him in the NFL. He's an older player and you're like, eh, listen,
I understand why they did it. But I know a
lot of people that were not that high in bo Nicks,

(57:49):
and I know a lot of people that think Sean Payton, Yeah,
he's pretty arrogant. And he said over and over, we
think we got the best quarterback in the draft, and
so far watching like, I actually think the quarterback has
limited now it's football, it's hard. He's not as physically gifted,
Like there's a reason that other guys went one and two.

(58:09):
Caleb and Jaden are freak talents. I mean Caleb is,
I mean his arm is and Jaden's arm obviously Jaden's
thinner than Caleb, taller but so fast. And Caleb's a great,
great athlete, strong, but a really good athlete. You know,
Bo's a good athlete, really good athlete. Arms, the little
hit or miss accuracy looks a little off, So I

(58:30):
just think he's got a project on his hands. If
Bo was playing well and his offense you've thought was
stagnant in the motion rate, then yeah, but I think
they're just trying to get some momentum with Bo Nicks,
who just again, I mean, I'm the guy that was like, hey,
fourteen to one offensive rookie of the year. Your boy
might have put a couple hundred bucks on it. It

(58:50):
looks I mean, I lost. I might as well have
just burned that money. Sometimes you just can't overthink things.
I think it turns out the value in some people
I'm sure listening to this might have jumped on it
was Jayden Daniels because Caleb was like basically one and
a half to one. So if you put one hundred bucks,
you win one fifty. Jayden was like five to one.

(59:15):
But I'm a value investor, probably value investor. Sometimes your
money disappears huge Seattle fan, I was curious your thoughts
were on Geno moving forward. I feel like McDonald will
get his defense rolling, and there's no way you pay Gino.
What quarterbacks go for in the offseason. What do you
do if you're John Schneider, Well, I mean, I think

(59:38):
Sam Donald's name has come up. Would you just go
for the younger player? Right? Sam is twenty seven, what's Gino?
Let's just hypothetically in a world that said you could
pay him both the same. Gino is thirty four years old,
so you have like a seven year age difference. And
Gino actually turns thirty five. God, he's older, and you think,

(01:00:02):
I guess he just turned thirty four. I was like
October tenth, but that just happened. So Gino next year
will be thirty five. He has been. I give John
Schneider a lot of credit. It's one of the best
bridge quarterback signings I can't remember in a long time.
I mean, it truly is. Usually when teams sign guys

(01:00:24):
like Gino Smith, it is such a disaster, it is
so embarrassing. It just immediately pisses off all the fans.
Everyone knows the guy sucks, and he typically gets benched
and Gino is just been freaking fantastic for them. I mean,
he really has. But you're right, this is a business

(01:00:46):
and clearly Gino wanted to get paid this offseason. Don't
blame him because in his mind it's like, look at
what I've done for your franchise. I've helped keep it afloat.
And it's like, well, Gino, I watch you play against Atlanta,
where's that guy when we play forty nine ers? Like
the guy that I just saw two weeks ago, what
the hell was that? And I think the games against

(01:01:07):
the forty nine ers he's now, I think he's owing six.
He was zero five coming into this season, and you
lost that Thursday night game, so he's owned six. He
has been atrocious in those games. And listen, you're like,
if you're not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Rogers
in his prime, you get some bad games. Like it's
you know, even the middle of the road crew, like

(01:01:28):
they're better middle of the road. But the Cousins, the Goffs,
the Dacks, the guys that make a lot of money
that we all acknowledge, even though Gof's like kind of
having an MVP season, but they've never been like top
five quarterbacks. They have stinkers. But I think the problem
with Gino is age. It feels like he puts a

(01:01:48):
ceiling on your team, like are you gonna win? And
part of the Niners thing reflects like can we win
playoff games with you? And it doesn't feel like the
answer is yes. And let's say you win the division
this year, because it's very possible with the Niners having
a lot of problems. Let's say you win the division
this year. If you lost that playoff game, I think

(01:02:09):
Geno would be done now. I think the question mark
would be would they trade up and try to land someone?
Is this quarterback class something that would intrigue John? I
don't know. Fascinating quarterback team really is? Okay? Last question,
so long question. Do you think divisional realignment in college

(01:02:31):
football will improve the success rate of first round quarterbacks
or reduce the likelihood of drafting bus Where in previous years,
top programs like Ohio State, Bama, etc. Had only a
couple Top fifteen games on the schedule, the consolidation of
power in the SEC and Big Ten now forces more

(01:02:54):
NFL light matchups. This is a fantastic point. Here is
a good question. Successful college quarterbacks on loaded college rosters
flopped in the NFL. Now take Georgia and Texas game
for example, we already are writing off viewers in beck
As mid round picks after disappointing performances against other elite defenses.

(01:03:15):
Curious if better talent parody will help teams make more
and four draft decisions. You know, in fairness to years
before on a lot of these bus like if you
had two years as a starter in your potential top
five pick, like if you play at Bama or USC
or Texas or whatever, I can only go off the

(01:03:37):
three or four games that you played against like other
loaded teams. Right, So it is, it was a huge,
huge projection always and now like Carson Beck's playing in
massive games. I mean he's already played I would say,
two NFL level games on the road at Alabama, on
the road at Texas, Like there can't be a better

(01:04:00):
way to evaluate you. The pressure, the intensity, I know,
you know, I don't know exactly how many NFL guys
Bama has on defense, but first crappies or defenses, I
bet still a lot of guys end up getting drafted. Obviously,
Texas has a bunch of NFL guys defensively, and it's
like they're gonna get more of those, and now with
the twelve team playoffs as well. So I think you

(01:04:22):
bring up a great point that any player I want
to evaluate is that one of these SEC or Big
Ten schools, they're just playing in so many big games
against other NFL teams, against other teams even random games
like oh, you get Iowa this week and I'm a
Linebackermst Like, well, they got a starting running back that's
gonna be a I don't know, top On Hunter pick

(01:04:44):
that before, like, or you know, the UCLA middle linebacker.
I don't even know if they have one. I'm just
using this as example. That game never would have happened.
Ucla would have been playing like Arizona State, right or
Utah or just what Utah has got NFL players. But
you know what I mean, Yeah, I think at one
hundred percent helps for sure. So maybe there will be

(01:05:05):
less draft of bus. Maybe here's the thing, maybe it's
more likely that these guys don't get drafted is high.
I think that's the thing that instead of Quinn yours
and Carson Beck in the year's past, where like, let's
face it, if Texas was playing in the Big twelve,

(01:05:27):
they would destroy everybody, and then you would get to
the playoffs and you would put an extraordinate amount of
pressure on the playoff games. And then if he didn't
have a good Final four game, you would chock it up, Well,
he's had one bad game. It was a big moment,
but you would go back look at his numbers. Well,
it turns out that game against Georgia in the Final four,
I'm assuming no realignment here or Texas still in the

(01:05:47):
Big twelve. Well, it's like that's a one off situation. Well, no,
actually that is indicative of the guy less than playing
Baylor in Oklahoma State on a weekly basis. So, and
I do think it's gonna really help a lot of
guys out. It's like, damn, look at that guy play

(01:06:09):
like you watched I'll tell you who made a lot
of money. You watch Walker from Georgia, holy shit, and
get more eyeballs on them. Because you play well in
the bigger games, more people are paying attention. Hype's great
and listen, Hype real or not matters, but it can
dissipate and disappear quick because when you play good teams,

(01:06:34):
it can just be like what's going on here? Like
what's happening? And I think we are all huge winners.
Seeing some of the ratings numbers on college football, it's
pretty crazy. I mean some of the biggest games this
year Georgia, Texas, Bama, Georgia. I mean these games are
doing like twelve eleven million people, like good good regular

(01:06:59):
season NBA games do like a couple million people. The
World Series this year is unique because it's Dodgers Yankees,
but never do those type numbers anymore. Held the NBA
Finals the last couple of years are doing like nine
to ten million, and that's like Warriors Celtics. So props
to everyone for realignment has made the sport more interesting.

(01:07:22):
Even if I missed the Pac twelve a little bit.
Appreciate everyone listening. Talk soon the volume

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