October 24, 2024 • 30 mins
Super Bowl champion Drew Brees joins the show to explain what it's like to adjust to a new receiver after the various big moves prior to the NFL trade deadline
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah. I think I think it's interesting, like when you're
the new guy in a building, you should not be
given motivational speeches.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think it takes time. When you walk into a building,
it doesn't matter how good you are. And I like
Devonte Adams, but it's weird, like he was kind of
a disgruntled, noisy player on a horrible franchise going to
a Jets team who's got Aaron Rodgers and Garrett Wilson
and Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Those are great, great players.
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I couldn't walk into that room and think I'm gonna
I'm gonna be the one.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's gonna talk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I just I don't know, it just it seems like
to me, it doesn't matter if the Saints went on
a losing streak with Sean Payton and Drew Brees.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
If you're a new guy in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't think you get to control of the locker
room speeches. That just feels weird to me, even if
you're really talented, I don't know Drew Brees thirteen Pro Bowls,
Super Bowl, twenty NFL seasons. So there are two things
that aren't really football, but they're fascinating to me. So
I've never looked at I know you guys are pro
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athletes and performers, but you're not singers, you're not actors.
You're I mean you are, but ninety percent of what
you guys do is weight room, is film room. It
is hard, and then you go. You know, you perform.
You don't perform for me, You perform for your coach.
I don't look at you guys. I know you can
be entertainers, but that's not how I look at football
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players or athletes. There's a distinction. And so Jerry Jones
has this practice facility, and there's an article today and
he goes, I think my players are inspired having fans
watch them work out, And I think I would be
so annoyed if I had people staring at my show
all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Working here.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So you tell me when you worked out film room facility,
would you want Randalls walking around? Would it be distracting
or is it just not matter?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Make you feel like an animal zoo, especially when there's
so much at stake, you know. To me, the locker
room and the practice field and everywhere in the facility
is sacred and it's meant to be that. This is
where we come to work, this is where we come
to be professional, this is where we come to master
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our craft so that we could go out on Sunday
and win for this organization and win for this community.
And so having I mean even just having the media there, honestly,
I'd rather not, you know. I just I just wanted
to be our team, yeah right, those that are going
to be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it
on the line to help us win.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, it just it just it doesn't work for me.
So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d Hop goes
to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's a pretty
good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know, And I think
it's very hard in any business to say, all right, Drew,
you got to throw to this guy, Like, Okay, we're
not in camp, like you know, you're in the install.
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You're trying to figure So what is realistic for me
to think if I insert Amari Cooper? How fast can
you get up to twelve targets and eight catches? Or
is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk? How long
would it take you with a nuke, even if the
guy's good, how long would it take you to insert
him into the offense and to just be up and running?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly
because in most cases, you are very aware of these
guys and you are very very aware of their traits
and their skill set, Like you've watched them for years
and years, just as you've watched film and you've sat
there and watched what they've done. You've compared it to
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the guys on your team. You've probably stolen plays and
concepts based on watching them and incorporate them into your offense.
So like, very quickly you can understand, like I would know,
for example, like Devanta Adams, we're sitting here watching if
you just put Devanta Adams on my team, we would
be on the same page very.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Quickly, because I've watched this guy play.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I've studied this guy. I know that, like my receivers
have studied this guy, so like, I know his movements,
I know his body language. I know when he's anticipating
the ball on fades or when he knows the back
shoulders coming, he's prepared preparing his body to flip his
hips and make that catch.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Right.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Like, There's just little things that I would recognize and
then we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week and you I mean, there's the
obviously iconic picture of you and one of your kids
after the Super Bowl. But it's really funny, is you
are I look at you as such a grinder that
I always wonder Obviously there's emotional moments for you. I
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don't see you as a guy you have a Brady
quality and Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't see
you as a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a point
in your life where you'll go back, but it's when
you get into the Hall of Fame. Were there times
in your career that you ever in a Bye Week said,
you know what, it's Drew Week.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm gonna just I'm not watching film.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For four days because I just view you as such
a grinder to the awards. Now, what do they mean
to you in the big picture of what you've done?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm extremely grateful for the career that I was able
to have, for the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which,
you know, never, never in my wildest dreams that I
think that that would occur. In fact, like New Orleans
was not the most popular place to be, you know,
that decision was made, you know, and yet what that
journey was like and what we were able to accomplish
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there was was was unbelievable. And so you know, every
time I walk back in into the Superdome, into that building,
it's like the rush of emotion and the memories from
from what we were able to accomplish there and having
my family be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
In the fan base, you know, everybody, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
So many people in that stadium were part of a
lot of those moments. So yeah, I just it gives
you a chance to just be grateful, and that's that's
a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks and
you can see them growing. Like Caleb Williams, his feet
are steadier, he's he feels like he's a bit more
under control.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Maybe they've just refined simplified looks or refined looks for him,
like and it could be that. But when you, let's
say you're to go to your tenthire in the league,
was there a point with you you weren't necessarily improving
You'd seen every defense. What do you work on when
you become Mahomes Breeze in your ten, Big Ben in
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your eight what did you work on? You'd seen every defense?
What where did you get better?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'd say situational football?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Like you just continue to master situation of football, which,
which to me is is what determines so many games.
You know, it's how are you handling you know, the
last half of the first half, right, and then the
first part of the third quarter, and then preparing for
you know, that final drive of the game where you
anticipate that you're going to have to go down and
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win the game. And oh, by the way, not only that,
but you're kind of working the clock a little bit,
because if I'm staring across the sideline at a Tom
Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron Rodgers or somebody else,
I don't want to give them too much time. So
I can I can score too quick, right like, I
don't want to do that. So, man, you just you're
constantly trying to master situational football. I'll give you an
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example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen. So this
is my this is my nineteenth year in the NFL.
Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill in a
practice and I burn a time out with about like
I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're just going
up against our defense. It's a two minute practice and
training camp. I burned my last time out. You know,
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I was in control of the two minute calls. I
was in control of the timeouts. I burned my last
time out, and then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
We run out of time.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyzed that moment in practice, and
I said, always always do whatever you can to leave
yourself a timeout at the end. Of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole
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field right right, like you have to get the ball
out of bounds, you know, or you have to throw
in completion, like you can't just run when you can't
throw a screen, you can't, right, you don't have the
whole playbook or the whole field at your disposal. If
you have a timeout, you do so. Sure enough, the
very first game of the twenty nineteen season, we play
Monday Night football against the Houston Texans. Right, we go
down score at the end of the game to take
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the lead. I think we've got the game one Deshaun
Watson ironic. So it was like a sixty yard bomb,
and they score with thirty seven seconds left to go
it by one or two points, and we have one
time out thirty seven seconds, and I in my mind say,
all right, I'm calling this play ten yard completion clock.
This play fifteen yard completion clock. Next play completion timeout.
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There's me be two seconds left. We're going to kick
the game leinning field goal. Sure enough, ten It was
a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas. Get up quick
quick spike. Next play like deep deep hook to Ted
Gins junr spike it. Next play boom ten yard cerl
ten to Ted.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Game.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
We had six seconds left, by the way, six seconds boom,
that's to four seconds. Pay time out, two seconds, come out,
keep a fifty nine.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yard field goal. We win the game.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Right, So, like, man, you're always learning, And that's why
I love these situational football moments in practice where like
coach would just throw out some crazy scenario, right and
all of a sudden, you just have to think on
your feet.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You've got to go out and man, maybe you.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Fail in practice and then you get and then you
just send you on this journey like I never want
that moment to happen again in the game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I'm going to be ready for that. And sure enough
it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth Peyton, Manning, Uh Mahomes
by the way, has Hill Uncork an ugly one. How
do you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well, he
just forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this Andrew.
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I remember Drew.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I remember watching him live at us SEE against Stanford.
He threw a pick six against us he at the coliseum.
It was bad and he laughed. They showed it on
the screen. He came over, he was hitting his helmet.
The next drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man,
how do you forget that?
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Again?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You didn't have a lot of bad picks, but kind
of take me through like a mahomes How. He just
shuts it off, and it's just like, all right, I
would think that's so hard to do.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
So, first off, I did through a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
year six to eight years I got. I got a
lot a lot better because at the end of the day,
what which you also learns You become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
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guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Right. But as far as just the short term memory, look,
that is the key to playing the quarterback position because.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
There were plenty of things that are outside of your
control that could affect your performance. And then there's times where, man,
you just make a bonehead move or a bonehead decision
and it's like, man, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And you have to be able to put it behind you.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
There's a saying that I always think about in football
that's it's you're only as good as your next performance.
So whether it was good or whether it was bad,
the only thing that matters is the next play, right,
the next opportunity. And I'd say the hardest part for
me is when you're in games and man, you just
feel like you're out of sync or out a rhythm,
you know, like it's just you're missing throws or whether
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And a lot of times you can self correct, you know,
just based on kind of your knowledge of like where
you miss Okay, well, man, I missed high, Okay, I
must have you know, I overstrowed right, or I dropped
my elbow right.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like, So there's there's things that you can kind of
fix on the run.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
But for the most part, I would just tell myself, like,
trust your instincts and go fast and and don't pass
up open guys. Right, And when I got to that point,
then I was a machine.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, Drew Brees eligible for the Hall, first ballot he'll
get in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now.
I'm gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Am I wrong? Nah?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look New Islands.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
In the mirror here. Yeah, we got the Roman shades here.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know, I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Block out the sun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Great seeing the manzuellas Drew Brees, Yeah, you too, Eligible
for the Hall in twenty twenty six. It is, Yeah,
it's I always think that's a gift to be able
to compartmentalize stuff. I think politicians can be good at it.
Like you're constantly speaking. What if you have a bad speech,
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plain next speech? How do you not get that speech
into your head? And just like okay, I got to
go deliver in front of twenty seven hundred people and
thirty five what if you just had a terrible speech.
I mean you're all ad libin all this stuff. There
is a value to compartmentalizing. Don't let a team beat
you twice, or an interception get in the way of
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the next pass. Keep that risk tolerance high even after
you throw a horrible, horrible pick that. I think there's
a real skill to that. I think it's you see
sometimes quarterbacks like emotionally go downhill, like you see the
body language and it's like a second pick and you're like,
I mean Brady threw pick sixes and Super Bowls. I mean,
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I justin Herbert has the ability. He's another kid. He
can throw a bad pick and it just doesn't affect him.
That's a that's a skill to me.
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Speaker 7 (14:55):
One game we've barely talked about this week is Dolphin's
Cardinals two.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
A is expected to return.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
He's back at practice after missing four games with that
concussion suffered against I believe the Bills.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It was ugly.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Since Joy's absence, Miami's offense has absolutely cratered their last
in scoring twenty ninth in yards per game. Nobody is
happier to see two than Tyreek hill.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know, I felt like old times while me and
him connected.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
You know, you get this part a treat team shout
today and that kind of got me feeling good today.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, so I missed that well a lot. I
missed that. I told him I I got to take
him and his wife to Dan. I'm broke because I
missed him so much. Broke good. But it's so beautiful.
It's almost gonna be crying the baby man, like just.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Having him in the line up and having him call
to play and having him, you know, got wrecked the
offense like he's hearing his voice.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I know that sounds crazy, but he's a big part
of his team.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, it's a fascinating game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I want to watch Miami play before I bet on Miami.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But would it shock.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You if Miami came out and let Arizona up Because
Arizona hot and cold, great against the Niners, terrible against
Green Bay, win against the Chargers. If they came out.
I mean, I find Arizona week to week. I have
no idea what I'm getting. I like the good version,
but man, they've had about five halves this year that
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are just awful.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, and they played Monday night the Lake game, and
now they've got to travel to Florida short week and yep,
and they got to play an early kickoff in Miami.
I don't like the spot for Arizona.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I know at all.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I think this screams to a breakout game. This was
three most of the week. It's now up to three
and a half. Later in the week, you could bet
more money. I think a lot of people will come
in on Miami. I'll just say this. Someone did look
at quarterbacks coming off concussions and their production in the
first week back drops from They don't go right back
to what they were.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
There's a little.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Drop off, but even a little drop off, Miami should
be fine here at the better defense, they've got, the
better offense.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They're at home, they get the better quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Sorry to prep.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, I like Miami here. This is a second bet
I made this week.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Next story Colin is Caleb Williams the Bears against the
Commanders Sunday should be should be the first head to
head matchup of the top two picks in this past
year's NFL draft. We're still waiting on Jaden Daniel's status,
although in the last ten minutes they just announced he's
going to try Jaden Daniels try to practice Friday.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
That's not encouraging. He's gonna try to give it a go.
I don't love that Caleb is not getting caught up
in the headlines.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Though obviously he's on the same side, the NFC side,
so you know, be seeing him will get him out,
I would say, and you know, you know, we'll see
from this game and then in the future. I think
it's gonna be great for for us and the battle
between you know us as as as y'all want to
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kind of kind of talk about. But my job is
to go out there and you know.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Win the game. Cargar Bears.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He's gotten he's gotten very good at talking and not
giving the media anything.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That's a skill.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Very Derek Jeter, Eli Manning talk a lot, don't say anything.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Another interesting game. So this was two and a half
for most of the week, Bears. And then after Jayden
didn't practice yesterday and Ian Rappaport said, trending toward Mariota,
this bumps up to three. Now there's this report, Oh,
he's going to try to practice this is all about
the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I know we like Mariota, right, you liked him coming
out of Oregon.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, I like him and I think he's capable, but
he this this game to me is stay away because
if Jayden plays, I like the Commanders. If he doesn't,
I like the Bears. So I'm not gonna guess. I mean,
I guess, and by the time I do Blazing five,
we won't know. So I have to stay away from this.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We should we should know.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Why.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh you got to get the picks in before I
got to get the picks in late Thursday night Friday morning,
So if you gave me if I made Blazing five
was Saturday and Jaden's a no go.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I like Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
By the way, did you lock in any picks early
this week?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I remember the last night I did not that lock
in last week with the Rams got me a post
saved your high.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I went two to two and one. It saved me. Yeah,
I have four picks this week. I like when I
don't really have a fifth one.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow, if Jayden didn't play, the Bears would be my
fifth one. But I'm not gonna go with it because
I mean, if he practices Friday he's playing again. Young
athletes practice Friday forty eight hours for the body.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
They're fine.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Bears secondary had a lot of injuries coming in. They
should off the bye week be healthier. I think this
is a good Bear spot, especially, like you said, if
Daniels doesn't play. Final story college football, little drama here.
So Alabama's lost two of their last three since they
beat Georgia and they're on the outside looking into the
college football playoff. It'd be pretty bad in Calen deer
BUR's first year if a twelfth team playoff in Alabama
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doesn't make it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well. Former Alabama qb aj mccerrn, do you remember that guy.
Oh yeah, very solid quarterback.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
He recently had some harsh comments about the state the
Alabama program.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Bama fans should get used to that in a way
of hey, it's not going to be what you knew,
you know from two thousand and eight up till last year,
where there was just a certain standard. And that's not
a knock on the coaching staff or a knock on anybody.
Everybody's worried about TikTok and having a real and you know,
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being on highlights for their personal self and personal gain.
And how much money they can get from nil and
you've came together as a team because you had one
common goal, because you knew that's how you were going
to make your money was by winning.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, I think we have to be careful.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I think when you follow the greatest college football coach ever,
I think you have to give Klein to boor Remember
Alabama was not viewed as good as Ohio State, Texas
or Georgia. This year when they beat Georgia, we all went, oh,
Alabama's back there. That we didn't view them as a time.
I mean, I think I've watched Oregon play three times.
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I think Oregon's better than Obama. I think Georgia if
they played Alabama now, Georgia would be Some of.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Alabama's best players are seventeen year old freshman.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, come on, I just think I always say this
whenever you bring a coach in, I just I can't
take anything from the first year. You're trying to build
a culture, and that they're they're complaining that he's gotten
a little loose and players are, you know, screwing around,
And that's possible. He may have come into the program
and seen kind of the rigidity of save it and thought,
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I'm gonna make it a little more player friendly, and
that could have been his take is I'm a little looser,
more of an offensive guy, more of a creative I'm
gonna pull back the reins a little. I'm just guessing.
I don't know, but I can't. The guy's won everywhere
he's been.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I give him. Can we give him a little?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
HoneyNet?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I read like he just got there, like you said
following saved.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean, and people tend to think, well, nil
transfer portal, you can solve all your issues. But I
would argue Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley could speak to this,
even Dion Sanders. When you start going thirty five percent
of your rosters is transfers, you get a lot of
cast offs. I mean, there's a reason guys transfer. Takeout
quarterback where it's the highest bidder. If you get a
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defensive lineman USC knows this from Georgia, it's because Georgia
was over them. You're not getting the great left tackle
out of Ohio State. You're getting the backup who's disgruntled.
So the transfer portal outside of quarterback, Will Howard was
available highest bidder, He's excellent Gabriel from Oklahoma to Oregon.
I'm not talking quarterback. I mean that just goes people
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bit on the top one. But you start seeing the
transfer portal. USC has had sixty transfers or more. They've
had like three to four guys who you've been Kamari Ramsey,
Jordan Addison, Caleb William.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And it's just a bunch of guys.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
What's the alternative bringing in an eighteen years old freshman
to compete with three year old That's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
A good question, you know, that's a very fair question.
The answer is, use the transfer portal with discretion, build
your program. Seventy five percent of recruits through high school
development and supplement, I mean, no question. I mean especially quarterback.
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Sometimes it's like we took two guys last year. They
both stink. And I understand too. If you're Ohio State,
you're in the Big Ten, and you know you need
a left tackle, then go get one. But I think
people are looking for transfers to solve the program, when
the transfer portal should be about solving a position it
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can't solve. If your program's not right, you're not getting
guys from Oklahoma State linebacker solving your program.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hold on Indiana basically brought in a whole transfer portal team.
They're like a bunch of transfer portal all stars and
they're undefeated hat season in y. Who have they play
if that's the other they haven't. They're not playing an SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, let let's go see him play Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
They have not played the buck Eyes yet.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
But to mckiern's point, Colin about this, this whole TikTok thing,
he sounds like an old guy yelling at a cloud,
doesn't he?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
No, not really.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Young guys on their TikTok and reels like, obviously that
helps build your brand.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's a thing in college.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, but you know what, how about build your portfolio
through the right stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
What do you mean building your brand? You're eighteen, you're
not a singer.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Oh my, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They're called football. They're called football teams. Okay, they're not
they're not entertainers. They're athletes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Okay, they're they're they're not football content creators, they're football players.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Okay, all right, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
ten rounds with you on this late in the show,
but we will revisit this.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
At a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
All right content creator.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I'm going I can't wait to get off social media.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I just need to make a little bit more money.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
There will be a point I will dance on TikTok.
It's not today, but just like my last what do
you call my last TikTok?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
My last TikTok? I'll dance into the sunset, but I
will dance at some point.
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Speaker 1 (25:46):
I was kind of surprised, I guess I wasn't by
how many people were bothered by Brownie and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So I was listening.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Uh a big cat on barstool said, I don't get
the people who are saying Brownie Lebron's the coolest thing ever.
It was a photo shoot for Lebron, which I mostly
agree with. Chris Man dog Russo sounded off on the
Dan Patrick Show, saying, I walk around town all the time.
I didn't have a person tell me, wow, you see
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Bronni play with Lebron. The American sports fan could care less.
I'm my personal experiences. I didn't care. I thought it
was cool for the family. I don't think Brownie Junior
is an NBA player. He's a six to one off guard.
Those don't exist in the NBA. I think he's more
of a G League guy. But Lebron's carried the NBA
for fifteen eighteen years. It's a solid I think it's
a cool moment as long as you don't obsess over it. Obviously,
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the team's going to be run through Anthony Davis one,
Lebron two, and then Austin Reeves three. That's going to
be the team. Ruey and Dalton connect that stuff. Those
are more ancillary pieces. But Jamack did it bother? Does
it bother you that? It bothered so many people.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I made a mistake and I went off on Chris
mad Dog Russo on social media and all these people
were like.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Why are you being mean to him? Like some of
these people just don't get it.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Bronni has We've known about this guy since he started
high school, right he And I know people don't want
to hear this, but he's like a big time gamer
like Kyler Murray and has a huge following on social media.
People are interested in him and invested him. Lebron is
arguably the most famous athlete in.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
America, would you agree?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, Okay, So you.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Don't think people care about him playing with his son.
That is one of the coolest things ever. Man, I
think it's phenomenal and I'm happy for Lebron and his kid. Yeah,
and just these people, like even Big Cat I was
disappointed in Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He usually is a smart guy, and.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
I'm like, dude, this would be like your kid going
and doing whatever you do at barstool and working with you,
and wouldn't that be awesome?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
And he didn't respond, which I think means I'm right.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But no, Well, let's let let first of all, everybody,
we're in the sports opinion business, so you and I
get sports opinions. I don't have a problem with anybody's opinion.
Chris Russo's older, I don't know. That's not a shot
I've seen. You know, he likes baseball, and I mean
he that's his thing. He's old school. He loves that stuff,
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so I think his opinion is on brand for him.
From what I can tell. I don't know him. I
think when you were at the game and you saw
all the influencers at the arena, all these twenty somethings,
to your point, I think the Bronny thing is much
bigger than people get like. I'm pretty good at acknowledging
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what I like. I have blind spots.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'm agnostic. I'm not really I don't get religion. Spirituality, yes, religion, No,
it's a blind spot for me. I didn't study it.
I didn't read the Bible. It's a blind spot for me.
I can acknowledge that a lot of people out there
think they're epidemiologists. I'm not one of those people. So,
but I think if you're sixty up or fifty up,
(28:47):
you may not see certain things. And I think in
the gaming community, in the young hipster community, Bronni is
good looking kid, you know. Successful. I think he's a
thing I don't think is I'm just my opinion. I
don't know of a six to one off guard that
works in this sport, so I don't know what And
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I think this was more of a moment for a
guy Lebron who has basically carried the league, he and
Steph Curry for fifteen years. And I think it's wonderful
for Savannah and Lebron. I think it's wonderful. I don't
think it should be a continuous thing.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I don't think anybody expects that way. Okay, yeah, this
is the opener of the season. It's not like he
could go to the G League now, you know, like,
let's get it out of the way.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I get it. But this is a great moment.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
By the way, Lebron coming to LA brings a championship
to the Lakers. They're relevant again. Lakers fans, do you
remember what life was like before Lebron? Anybody remember those
six years they were in a wasteland colin It was awful.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
They were bottom of the barrel in the West. They
were irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Lebron brought them back to relevance, got them a title,
got them ad let him play with his son for
three minutes in the opening night.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Come on, better be nice to big Cat. He's got
a bit.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
We're buddy's keep trying to get him to play basketball
at the Super Bowl with us, and he though
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He does want to, he doesn't want to play with
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah. I think I think it's interesting, like when you're
the new guy in a building, you should not be
given motivational speeches.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I think it takes time. When you walk into a building,
it doesn't matter how good you are. And I like
Devonte Adams, but it's weird, like he was kind of
a disgruntled, noisy player on a horrible franchise going to
a Jets team who's got Aaron Rodgers and Garrett Wilson
and Quinn Williams and Sauce Gardner. Those are great, great players.
(00:51):
I couldn't walk into that room and think I'm gonna
I'm gonna be the one.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That's gonna talk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I just I don't know, it just it seems like
to me, it doesn't matter if the Saints went on
a losing streak with Sean Payton and Drew Brees.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
If you're a new guy in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't think you get to control of the locker
room speeches. That just feels weird to me, even if
you're really talented, I don't know Drew Brees thirteen Pro Bowls,
Super Bowl, twenty NFL seasons. So there are two things
that aren't really football, but they're fascinating to me. So
I've never looked at I know you guys are pro
(01:28):
athletes and performers, but you're not singers, you're not actors.
You're I mean you are, but ninety percent of what
you guys do is weight room, is film room. It
is hard, and then you go. You know, you perform.
You don't perform for me, You perform for your coach.
I don't look at you guys. I know you can
be entertainers, but that's not how I look at football
(01:50):
players or athletes. There's a distinction. And so Jerry Jones
has this practice facility, and there's an article today and
he goes, I think my players are inspired having fans
watch them work out, And I think I would be
so annoyed if I had people staring at my show
all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Working here.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
So you tell me when you worked out film room facility,
would you want Randalls walking around? Would it be distracting
or is it just not matter?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
No, it would absolutely be a distraction.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Make you feel like an animal zoo, especially when there's
so much at stake, you know. To me, the locker
room and the practice field and everywhere in the facility
is sacred and it's meant to be that. This is
where we come to work, this is where we come
to be professional, this is where we come to master
(02:42):
our craft so that we could go out on Sunday
and win for this organization and win for this community.
And so having I mean even just having the media there, honestly,
I'd rather not, you know. I just I just wanted
to be our team, yeah right, those that are going
to be out there on Sunday, you know, putting it
on the line to help us win.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, it just it just it doesn't work for me.
So DeVante Adams goes to the Jets, d Hop goes
to Kansas City. Amari Cooper, I think it's a pretty
good fit, goes to Buffalo, you know, And I think
it's very hard in any business to say, all right, Drew,
you got to throw to this guy, Like, Okay, we're
not in camp, like you know, you're in the install.
(03:27):
You're trying to figure So what is realistic for me
to think if I insert Amari Cooper? How fast can
you get up to twelve targets and eight catches? Or
is that just unrealistic and fantasy football talk? How long
would it take you with a nuke, even if the
guy's good, how long would it take you to insert
him into the offense and to just be up and running?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I love this question with an experienced quarterback very quickly
because in most cases, you are very aware of these
guys and you are very very aware of their traits
and their skill set, Like you've watched them for years
and years, just as you've watched film and you've sat
there and watched what they've done. You've compared it to
(04:11):
the guys on your team. You've probably stolen plays and
concepts based on watching them and incorporate them into your offense.
So like, very quickly you can understand, like I would know,
for example, like Devanta Adams, we're sitting here watching if
you just put Devanta Adams on my team, we would
be on the same page very.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Quickly, because I've watched this guy play.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I've studied this guy. I know that, like my receivers
have studied this guy, so like, I know his movements,
I know his body language. I know when he's anticipating
the ball on fades or when he knows the back
shoulders coming, he's prepared preparing his body to flip his
hips and make that catch.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Right.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Like, There's just little things that I would recognize and
then we would get on the same page so fast.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, you know, you got inducted into the Saints Hall
of Fame last week and you I mean, there's the
obviously iconic picture of you and one of your kids
after the Super Bowl. But it's really funny, is you
are I look at you as such a grinder that
I always wonder Obviously there's emotional moments for you. I
(05:21):
don't see you as a guy you have a Brady
quality and Mahomes and Lamar have this. I don't see
you as a big celebration guy. Maybe there's a point
in your life where you'll go back, but it's when
you get into the Hall of Fame. Were there times
in your career that you ever in a Bye Week said,
you know what, it's Drew Week.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm gonna just I'm not watching film.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For four days because I just view you as such
a grinder to the awards. Now, what do they mean
to you in the big picture of what you've done?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Look, you appreciate it. I'm extremely grateful.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I'm extremely grateful for the career that I was able
to have, for the circumstances that led me to New Orleans, which,
you know, never, never in my wildest dreams that I
think that that would occur. In fact, like New Orleans
was not the most popular place to be, you know,
that decision was made, you know, and yet what that
journey was like and what we were able to accomplish
(06:19):
there was was was unbelievable. And so you know, every
time I walk back in into the Superdome, into that building,
it's like the rush of emotion and the memories from
from what we were able to accomplish there and having
my family be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
In the fan base, you know, everybody, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
So many people in that stadium were part of a
lot of those moments. So yeah, I just it gives
you a chance to just be grateful, and that's that's
a good feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know, I'm watching some of these young quarterbacks and
you can see them growing. Like Caleb Williams, his feet
are steadier, he's he feels like he's a bit more
under control.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Maybe they've just refined simplified looks or refined looks for him,
like and it could be that. But when you, let's
say you're to go to your tenthire in the league,
was there a point with you you weren't necessarily improving
You'd seen every defense. What do you work on when
you become Mahomes Breeze in your ten, Big Ben in
(07:15):
your eight what did you work on? You'd seen every defense?
What where did you get better?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'd say situational football?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Like you just continue to master situation of football, which,
which to me is is what determines so many games.
You know, it's how are you handling you know, the
last half of the first half, right, and then the
first part of the third quarter, and then preparing for
you know, that final drive of the game where you
anticipate that you're going to have to go down and
(07:47):
win the game. And oh, by the way, not only that,
but you're kind of working the clock a little bit,
because if I'm staring across the sideline at a Tom
Brady or a Mahomes or an Aaron Rodgers or somebody else,
I don't want to give them too much time. So
I can I can score too quick, right like, I
don't want to do that. So, man, you just you're
constantly trying to master situational football. I'll give you an
(08:08):
example so I'll never forget this. Twenty nineteen. So this
is my this is my nineteenth year in the NFL.
Twenty nineteen. We're doing a two minute drill in a
practice and I burn a time out with about like
I don't know, twenty seconds left as we're just going
up against our defense. It's a two minute practice and
training camp. I burned my last time out. You know,
(08:29):
I was in control of the two minute calls. I
was in control of the timeouts. I burned my last
time out, and then the next play something happens, boo
bo we run out of time.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
We run out of time.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And I was so mad at myself, and I went
back and I like analyzed that moment in practice, and
I said, always always do whatever you can to leave
yourself a timeout at the end. Of the game so
that you're you have access to the whole field, because
when you don't have a timeout and you're inside of
twenty seconds, you don't necessarily have access to the whole
(09:01):
field right right, like you have to get the ball
out of bounds, you know, or you have to throw
in completion, like you can't just run when you can't
throw a screen, you can't, right, you don't have the
whole playbook or the whole field at your disposal. If
you have a timeout, you do so. Sure enough, the
very first game of the twenty nineteen season, we play
Monday Night football against the Houston Texans. Right, we go
down score at the end of the game to take
(09:22):
the lead. I think we've got the game one Deshaun
Watson ironic. So it was like a sixty yard bomb,
and they score with thirty seven seconds left to go
it by one or two points, and we have one
time out thirty seven seconds, and I in my mind say,
all right, I'm calling this play ten yard completion clock.
This play fifteen yard completion clock. Next play completion timeout.
(09:46):
There's me be two seconds left. We're going to kick
the game leinning field goal. Sure enough, ten It was
a twelve yard completion of Michael Thomas. Get up quick
quick spike. Next play like deep deep hook to Ted
Gins junr spike it. Next play boom ten yard cerl
ten to Ted.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Game.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
We had six seconds left, by the way, six seconds boom,
that's to four seconds. Pay time out, two seconds, come out,
keep a fifty nine.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Yard field goal. We win the game.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Right, So, like, man, you're always learning, And that's why
I love these situational football moments in practice where like
coach would just throw out some crazy scenario, right and
all of a sudden, you just have to think on
your feet.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You've got to go out and man, maybe you.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Fail in practice and then you get and then you
just send you on this journey like I never want
that moment to happen again in the game.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I'm going to be ready for that. And sure enough
it pays dividends.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, you know, you didn't throw a lot of picks,
but many of the great Nameth Peyton, Manning, Uh Mahomes
by the way, has Hill Uncork an ugly one. How
do you compartmentalize? And Mahomes does it really well, he
just forgets it. Andrew Luck was good at this Andrew.
You know, Andrew could throw a bad pick.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I remember Drew.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I remember watching him live at us SEE against Stanford.
He threw a pick six against us he at the coliseum.
It was bad and he laughed. They showed it on
the screen. He came over, he was hitting his helmet.
The next drive he went ninety yards and you're like, man,
how do you forget that?
Speaker 8 (11:13):
Again?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
You didn't have a lot of bad picks, but kind
of take me through like a mahomes How. He just
shuts it off, and it's just like, all right, I
would think that's so hard to do.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
So, first off, I did through a lot of picks
early in my career, and I'd say probably the last
year six to eight years I got. I got a
lot a lot better because at the end of the day,
what which you also learns You become as a quarterback.
You become a master of probability. You understand when and
how to take chances. You understand matchups, you understand the
(11:47):
guys that you're going against. You understand you just kind
of know, right, like when you can take that chance
or when you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Right. But as far as just the short term memory, look,
that is the key to playing the quarterback position because.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
There were plenty of things that are outside of your
control that could affect your performance. And then there's times where, man,
you just make a bonehead move or a bonehead decision
and it's like, man, where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And you have to be able to put it behind you.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
There's a saying that I always think about in football
that's it's you're only as good as your next performance.
So whether it was good or whether it was bad,
the only thing that matters is the next play, right,
the next opportunity. And I'd say the hardest part for
me is when you're in games and man, you just
feel like you're out of sync or out a rhythm,
you know, like it's just you're missing throws or whether
(12:33):
And a lot of times you can self correct, you know,
just based on kind of your knowledge of like where
you miss Okay, well, man, I missed high, Okay, I
must have you know, I overstrowed right, or I dropped
my elbow right.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like, So there's there's things that you can kind of
fix on the run.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
But for the most part, I would just tell myself, like,
trust your instincts and go fast and and don't pass
up open guys. Right, And when I got to that point,
then I was a machine.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, Drew Brees eligible for the Hall, first ballot he'll
get in twenty twenty six. I'm gonna guess right now.
I'm gonna guess that you're in New Orleans right now?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Am I wrong? Nah?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I was looking at your blinds and I thought those
look New Islands.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Yeah, that's that's her reflection.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
In the mirror here. Yeah, we got the Roman shades here.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know, I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
Block out the sun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Great seeing the manzuellas Drew Brees, Yeah, you too, Eligible
for the Hall in twenty twenty six. It is, Yeah,
it's I always think that's a gift to be able
to compartmentalize stuff. I think politicians can be good at it.
Like you're constantly speaking. What if you have a bad speech,
(13:50):
plain next speech? How do you not get that speech
into your head? And just like okay, I got to
go deliver in front of twenty seven hundred people and
thirty five what if you just had a terrible speech.
I mean you're all ad libin all this stuff. There
is a value to compartmentalizing. Don't let a team beat
you twice, or an interception get in the way of
(14:11):
the next pass. Keep that risk tolerance high even after
you throw a horrible, horrible pick that. I think there's
a real skill to that. I think it's you see
sometimes quarterbacks like emotionally go downhill, like you see the
body language and it's like a second pick and you're like,
I mean Brady threw pick sixes and Super Bowls. I mean,
(14:32):
I justin Herbert has the ability. He's another kid. He
can throw a bad pick and it just doesn't affect him.
That's a that's a skill to me.
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Speaker 5 (14:48):
News, No, No turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
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Speaker 7 (14:55):
One game we've barely talked about this week is Dolphin's
Cardinals two.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
A is expected to return.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
He's back at practice after missing four games with that
concussion suffered against I believe the Bills.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It was ugly.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Since Joy's absence, Miami's offense has absolutely cratered their last
in scoring twenty ninth in yards per game. Nobody is
happier to see two than Tyreek hill.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Man.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know, I felt like old times while me and
him connected.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
You know, you get this part a treat team shout
today and that kind of got me feeling good today.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, so I missed that well a lot. I
missed that. I told him I I got to take
him and his wife to Dan. I'm broke because I
missed him so much. Broke good. But it's so beautiful.
It's almost gonna be crying the baby man, like just.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Having him in the line up and having him call
to play and having him, you know, got wrecked the
offense like he's hearing his voice.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I know that sounds crazy, but he's a big part
of his team.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, it's a fascinating game.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I want to watch Miami play before I bet on Miami.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But would it shock.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You if Miami came out and let Arizona up Because
Arizona hot and cold, great against the Niners, terrible against
Green Bay, win against the Chargers. If they came out.
I mean, I find Arizona week to week. I have
no idea what I'm getting. I like the good version,
but man, they've had about five halves this year that
(16:23):
are just awful.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Yeah, and they played Monday night the Lake game, and
now they've got to travel to Florida short week and yep,
and they got to play an early kickoff in Miami.
I don't like the spot for Arizona.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I know at all.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I think this screams to a breakout game. This was
three most of the week. It's now up to three
and a half. Later in the week, you could bet
more money. I think a lot of people will come
in on Miami. I'll just say this. Someone did look
at quarterbacks coming off concussions and their production in the
first week back drops from They don't go right back
to what they were.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
There's a little.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Drop off, but even a little drop off, Miami should
be fine here at the better defense, they've got, the
better offense.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They're at home, they get the better quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Sorry to prep.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, I like Miami here. This is a second bet
I made this week.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Next story Colin is Caleb Williams the Bears against the
Commanders Sunday should be should be the first head to
head matchup of the top two picks in this past
year's NFL draft. We're still waiting on Jaden Daniel's status,
although in the last ten minutes they just announced he's
going to try Jaden Daniels try to practice Friday.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
That's not encouraging. He's gonna try to give it a go.
I don't love that Caleb is not getting caught up
in the headlines.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Though obviously he's on the same side, the NFC side,
so you know, be seeing him will get him out,
I would say, and you know, you know, we'll see
from this game and then in the future. I think
it's gonna be great for for us and the battle
between you know us as as as y'all want to
(17:55):
kind of kind of talk about. But my job is
to go out there and you know.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Win the game. Cargar Bears.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
He's gotten he's gotten very good at talking and not
giving the media anything.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That's a skill.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Very Derek Jeter, Eli Manning talk a lot, don't say anything.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Another interesting game. So this was two and a half
for most of the week, Bears. And then after Jayden
didn't practice yesterday and Ian Rappaport said, trending toward Mariota,
this bumps up to three. Now there's this report, Oh,
he's going to try to practice this is all about
the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I know we like Mariota, right, you liked him coming
out of Oregon.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, I like him and I think he's capable, but
he this this game to me is stay away because
if Jayden plays, I like the Commanders. If he doesn't,
I like the Bears. So I'm not gonna guess. I mean,
I guess, and by the time I do Blazing five,
we won't know. So I have to stay away from this.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We should we should know.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Why.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Oh you got to get the picks in before I
got to get the picks in late Thursday night Friday morning,
So if you gave me if I made Blazing five
was Saturday and Jaden's a no go.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I like Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
By the way, did you lock in any picks early
this week?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I remember the last night I did not that lock
in last week with the Rams got me a post
saved your high.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I went two to two and one. It saved me. Yeah,
I have four picks this week. I like when I
don't really have a fifth one.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wow, if Jayden didn't play, the Bears would be my
fifth one. But I'm not gonna go with it because
I mean, if he practices Friday he's playing again. Young
athletes practice Friday forty eight hours for the body.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
They're fine.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
Bears secondary had a lot of injuries coming in. They
should off the bye week be healthier. I think this
is a good Bear spot, especially, like you said, if
Daniels doesn't play. Final story college football, little drama here.
So Alabama's lost two of their last three since they
beat Georgia and they're on the outside looking into the
college football playoff. It'd be pretty bad in Calen deer
BUR's first year if a twelfth team playoff in Alabama
(19:51):
doesn't make it.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Well. Former Alabama qb aj mccerrn, do you remember that guy.
Oh yeah, very solid quarterback.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
He recently had some harsh comments about the state the
Alabama program.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Bama fans should get used to that in a way
of hey, it's not going to be what you knew,
you know from two thousand and eight up till last year,
where there was just a certain standard. And that's not
a knock on the coaching staff or a knock on anybody.
Everybody's worried about TikTok and having a real and you know,
(20:27):
being on highlights for their personal self and personal gain.
And how much money they can get from nil and
you've came together as a team because you had one
common goal, because you knew that's how you were going
to make your money was by winning.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, I think we have to be careful.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I think when you follow the greatest college football coach ever,
I think you have to give Klein to boor Remember
Alabama was not viewed as good as Ohio State, Texas
or Georgia. This year when they beat Georgia, we all went, oh,
Alabama's back there. That we didn't view them as a time.
I mean, I think I've watched Oregon play three times.
(21:07):
I think Oregon's better than Obama. I think Georgia if
they played Alabama now, Georgia would be Some of.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Alabama's best players are seventeen year old freshman.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, come on, I just think I always say this
whenever you bring a coach in, I just I can't
take anything from the first year. You're trying to build
a culture, and that they're they're complaining that he's gotten
a little loose and players are, you know, screwing around,
And that's possible. He may have come into the program
and seen kind of the rigidity of save it and thought,
(21:36):
I'm gonna make it a little more player friendly, and
that could have been his take is I'm a little looser,
more of an offensive guy, more of a creative I'm
gonna pull back the reins a little. I'm just guessing.
I don't know, but I can't. The guy's won everywhere
he's been.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I give him. Can we give him a little?
Speaker 7 (21:55):
HoneyNet?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I read like he just got there, like you said
following saved.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean, and people tend to think, well, nil
transfer portal, you can solve all your issues. But I
would argue Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley could speak to this,
even Dion Sanders. When you start going thirty five percent
of your rosters is transfers, you get a lot of
cast offs. I mean, there's a reason guys transfer. Takeout
quarterback where it's the highest bidder. If you get a
(22:21):
defensive lineman USC knows this from Georgia, it's because Georgia
was over them. You're not getting the great left tackle
out of Ohio State. You're getting the backup who's disgruntled.
So the transfer portal outside of quarterback, Will Howard was
available highest bidder, He's excellent Gabriel from Oklahoma to Oregon.
I'm not talking quarterback. I mean that just goes people
(22:43):
bit on the top one. But you start seeing the
transfer portal. USC has had sixty transfers or more. They've
had like three to four guys who you've been Kamari Ramsey,
Jordan Addison, Caleb William.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
And it's just a bunch of guys.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
What's the alternative bringing in an eighteen years old freshman
to compete with three year old That's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
A good question, you know, that's a very fair question.
The answer is, use the transfer portal with discretion, build
your program. Seventy five percent of recruits through high school
development and supplement, I mean, no question. I mean especially quarterback.
(23:22):
Sometimes it's like we took two guys last year. They
both stink. And I understand too. If you're Ohio State,
you're in the Big Ten, and you know you need
a left tackle, then go get one. But I think
people are looking for transfers to solve the program, when
the transfer portal should be about solving a position it
(23:44):
can't solve. If your program's not right, you're not getting
guys from Oklahoma State linebacker solving your program.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Hold on Indiana basically brought in a whole transfer portal team.
They're like a bunch of transfer portal all stars and
they're undefeated hat season in y. Who have they play
if that's the other they haven't. They're not playing an SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, let let's go see him play Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
They have not played the buck Eyes yet.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
But to mckiern's point, Colin about this, this whole TikTok thing,
he sounds like an old guy yelling at a cloud,
doesn't he?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
No, not really.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Young guys on their TikTok and reels like, obviously that
helps build your brand.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's a thing in college.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, but you know what, how about build your portfolio
through the right stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
What do you mean building your brand? You're eighteen, you're
not a singer.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Oh my, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They're called football. They're called football teams. Okay, they're not
they're not entertainers. They're athletes.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Okay, they're they're they're not football content creators, they're football players.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
Okay, all right, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
ten rounds with you on this late in the show,
but we will revisit this.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
At a moment.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
All right content creator.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I'm going I can't wait to get off social media.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I just need to make a little bit more money.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
There will be a point I will dance on TikTok.
It's not today, but just like my last what do
you call my last TikTok?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
My last TikTok? I'll dance into the sunset, but I
will dance at some point.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
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Speaker 1 (25:46):
I was kind of surprised, I guess I wasn't by
how many people were bothered by Brownie and Lebron.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
So I was listening.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Uh a big cat on barstool said, I don't get
the people who are saying Brownie Lebron's the coolest thing ever.
It was a photo shoot for Lebron, which I mostly
agree with. Chris Man dog Russo sounded off on the
Dan Patrick Show, saying, I walk around town all the time.
I didn't have a person tell me, wow, you see
(26:13):
Bronni play with Lebron. The American sports fan could care less.
I'm my personal experiences. I didn't care. I thought it
was cool for the family. I don't think Brownie Junior
is an NBA player. He's a six to one off guard.
Those don't exist in the NBA. I think he's more
of a G League guy. But Lebron's carried the NBA
for fifteen eighteen years. It's a solid I think it's
a cool moment as long as you don't obsess over it. Obviously,
(26:38):
the team's going to be run through Anthony Davis one,
Lebron two, and then Austin Reeves three. That's going to
be the team. Ruey and Dalton connect that stuff. Those
are more ancillary pieces. But Jamack did it bother? Does
it bother you that? It bothered so many people.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I made a mistake and I went off on Chris
mad Dog Russo on social media and all these people
were like.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Why are you being mean to him? Like some of
these people just don't get it.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Bronni has We've known about this guy since he started
high school, right he And I know people don't want
to hear this, but he's like a big time gamer
like Kyler Murray and has a huge following on social media.
People are interested in him and invested him. Lebron is
arguably the most famous athlete in.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
America, would you agree?
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, Okay, So you.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Don't think people care about him playing with his son.
That is one of the coolest things ever. Man, I
think it's phenomenal and I'm happy for Lebron and his kid. Yeah,
and just these people, like even Big Cat I was
disappointed in Oh.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
He usually is a smart guy, and.
Speaker 7 (27:33):
I'm like, dude, this would be like your kid going
and doing whatever you do at barstool and working with you,
and wouldn't that be awesome?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
And he didn't respond, which I think means I'm right.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But no, Well, let's let let first of all, everybody,
we're in the sports opinion business, so you and I
get sports opinions. I don't have a problem with anybody's opinion.
Chris Russo's older, I don't know. That's not a shot
I've seen. You know, he likes baseball, and I mean
he that's his thing. He's old school. He loves that stuff,
(28:02):
so I think his opinion is on brand for him.
From what I can tell. I don't know him. I
think when you were at the game and you saw
all the influencers at the arena, all these twenty somethings,
to your point, I think the Bronny thing is much
bigger than people get like. I'm pretty good at acknowledging
(28:22):
what I like. I have blind spots.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I'm agnostic. I'm not really I don't get religion. Spirituality, yes, religion, No,
it's a blind spot for me. I didn't study it.
I didn't read the Bible. It's a blind spot for me.
I can acknowledge that a lot of people out there
think they're epidemiologists. I'm not one of those people. So,
but I think if you're sixty up or fifty up,
(28:47):
you may not see certain things. And I think in
the gaming community, in the young hipster community, Bronni is
good looking kid, you know. Successful. I think he's a
thing I don't think is I'm just my opinion. I
don't know of a six to one off guard that
works in this sport, so I don't know what And
(29:08):
I think this was more of a moment for a
guy Lebron who has basically carried the league, he and
Steph Curry for fifteen years. And I think it's wonderful
for Savannah and Lebron. I think it's wonderful. I don't
think it should be a continuous thing.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I don't think anybody expects that way. Okay, yeah, this
is the opener of the season. It's not like he
could go to the G League now, you know, like,
let's get it out of the way.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I get it. But this is a great moment.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
By the way, Lebron coming to LA brings a championship
to the Lakers. They're relevant again. Lakers fans, do you
remember what life was like before Lebron? Anybody remember those
six years they were in a wasteland colin It was awful.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
They were bottom of the barrel in the West. They
were irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Lebron brought them back to relevance, got them a title,
got them ad let him play with his son for
three minutes in the opening night.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Come on, better be nice to big Cat. He's got
a bit.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
We're buddy's keep trying to get him to play basketball
at the Super Bowl with us, and he though
Speaker 3 (29:59):
He does want to, he doesn't want to play with
a ballholl guy
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