October 25, 2024 • 41 mins
Colin gives his best NFL bets for week 8 in the Blazin' 5.
He talks to Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson about the challenges of coaching the Cowboys and why they've struggled so far this season
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go live in Los Angeles on a Friday.
It is The Herd wherever you may be and however
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your day. Jimmy Johnson, the Hall of Fame former Cowboy
coach in five minutes, Urban Meyer an hour and five
minutes from now. It is great to have you in. Jmack.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've seen this trend. Best quarterback wins and is winning
a lot over the last two weeks. We saw it
again last night. We saw Russell Wilson out playing Aaron Rodgers. Now,
I'm not saying it's gonna be across the board, but
I do feel like my picks this week. I'm starting
all of them with a conversation, who's the better quarterback?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Didn't you have rams last night? I know I did.
I said Rands Money line a lot of fans.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, I didn't think Puoka was gonna play, and I
know Cooper's not what he was, So without Puka, it's
like a one man show. And Puka was great.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I was hoping you could go six and oh this week,
you know, toss in the Thursday nighter. You know you're
a little hot heading into Halloween.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But I'm not taking all the best quarterbacks. A couple
of dogs, I like, so here we go, are blazing five.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins blazing. Fuck.
Eagles at Bengals.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm taking the Bengals at home minus three. Joe Burrow
eats alive the NFC, like Lamar Jackson. He's ten and
one with twenty four touchdowns and five picks. Their last
three losses Chiefs, Ravens and Commanders. Cincinnati's playing well, They're
losing close games to good teams. Joe Burrows absolutely on fire.
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Leads the NFL with five games with multiple touchdown passes
and one hundred plus passer rating. Jalen Hurts is not hot.
They're overvalued. Philly is overvalued. Their back to back wins
came against the Browns. Maybe the worst team in the
league and the Giants they had seventy yards passing. Jalen
Hurts is struggling. Their offense is easily the worst first
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quarter offense in the league. So Cincinnati's probably taken a
lead and playing with a lead, and their defense doesn't
take the ball away and NFL low two takeaways this year.
I'm taking comfortable. Joe Burrow with a lead at home,
lay the points thirty twenty three Bengals.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Packers at Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, Jordan Loves tied for the NFL leading touchdown passes.
He missed two starts. They are young and getting better
by the Sunday. Green Bay is second in the league
in explosive plays. Jacksonville doesn't offer. Though Jordan Love missed
two games fifteen touchdown passes. His protections much better than
Trevor Lawrence will get and Doug Peterson and the Jags.
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He's on the hot seat three to ten over their
last thirteen games. Their pass defense awfal third down defense
not great, only three takeaways. Again, Jordan Love is going
to be really comfortable. It's only four point. The Jaguars
defense this season it is bad and bad defenses against
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the speed, the efficiency and the coaching of Green Bay.
I'm taking the Packers to cover thirty three to twenty six.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Colt sit Texans.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I like rivalry game in Division. Colts plus five. Without
Nico Collins, Texans offense is not the same. First of all,
believe it or not, the Colts of the highest scoring
offense in the league in the fourth quarter, why run
game and excellent coaching. Jonathan Taylor ankle issue, He's been cleared.
Colts have won for their last five games. They just
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started off slowly. CJ. Stroud. I like him, but the
protection is Jamack pointed out this week. Without Nico Collins,
He's the third most sac quarterback in the league this
year and the second most pressure and Nico Collins is
really the key for this young quarterback to succeed. I
think it's a twenty seven to twenty six game. I
think the Colts may lose, but I'm gonna take them
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to cover. It's twenty seven twenty six. Take the points.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Cardinals at Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I'm gonna take Miami minus four. Listen, they're very good
at home with Mike McDaniel, and this game means not
only a lot to win, but to look good and
get that locker room back on your side. It's a
different offense with Tua. When they have Tua, they're twenty
to twelve. Without him, they're two to six and can't score.
Kyler Murray struggled last week in a win. The worst
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third down defense in the league is Arizona Miami at home.
Arizona on a short week. I think Myami translates third
down to first downs. Also, Arizona's given up six yards
of play Justin Herbert with no perimeter weapons of note
through for three hundred and fifty yards. Tua at home.
This is a flex spot, this locker room. You start
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fraying when you lose, and you lose again, and you
lose again. Miami, if they have a chance, will pour
it on. Dolphins wins score a lot thirty to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Bear's a Commander.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I flipped on this one this morning. I'm gonna take
the Commanders plus three. I like Chicago. Are they good
enough to go on the road and win a game?
Right now? Really? I like them, I don't love them.
I watch Minnesota as a good team. They couldn't win
on the road. The Commanders have not lost a home game,
and Marcus Mariota last week in relief seventy eight percent
completion percentage. This old line, this run game, this offensive staff,
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their defense was awful last year, it's not as bad
this year. It's fifteenth and the Bears three game winning
streak has come against the Rams without Cooper, Cupp and Nakua,
the Panthers, and the Jags. Caleb Williams is one of
the most sacked quarterbacks in the league this year. His
ability to move is fooling people. He's under duress. If
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they had a less mobile quarterback, they'd be in trouble.
And they've got all sorts of injuries do the Bears
on the back end of their defense, corners and safeties
may not play. I'm gonna take the Commanders to win
in what will be a very very good football game
twenty eight to twenty four. Yeah, I think. I think
the Bears old line is not as good as we think,
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but Caleb is making you think it's a little better
than it is. So I'm taking the better quarterback in
a lot of these games. Colts Texans is a division
rivalry game. I'm just gonna take the underdog in a
division rivalry game with Jimmy Johnson to two times Super
Bowl champ, college football champ, and also Fox Sports analysts.
So you know, hey, listen. You know better than anybody
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that Jerry likes to talk, and he's gotten really noisy
over the last two weeks. My favorite part is when
Aikman was critical. The next day, Jerry came out and said, boy,
that's a credible guy there. We better listen to that guy.
So when the noise is engulfing you and you didn't
deal with it, maybe the first year with Jerry he
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was doing business, but every year you'd hear more, How
do you keep the locker room Jimmy quiet? How do
you get out of that stuff?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I think it really comes with the territory. If you're
going to coach the Dallas Cowboys, you're going to have
to expect, you know, some distractions. You're going to have
to expect on a weekly basis, answering questions about what
your owner said. So it really, like I said, I
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think McCarthy he knew what he was getting into when he.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Took the job.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I think any coach that goes to the Dallas Cowboys,
that's what they deal with. And it's it's really not
even up for discussion, and that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, there was a story this week about the
facility and the tours, and you know, players wouldn't say
it that were with the Cowboys, but ex Cowboys were like,
it's a bit of a zoo. I'm just trying to
get a workout in. Listen, it's Jerry the Marketer. I
don't think any coach I think, I don't think any
coach wants that. Again, it's not ideal. Would that drive
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you nuts?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well, I'll give you a quick story.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Jerry's was close friends with Prince Vandar Saudi Arabia, and
so I had.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
A rule you know that you know with the players.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
You know, once I shut the door after the game,
I'm talking to the team and nobody could get in.
I got into it with Charles Haley when he was
a little bit late. I wouldn't let him in the room. Well,
I start talking to the team after the Chicago game
at the end of the season, and we had just
become the number one defense in the league, and Dave
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Wan said and all that crew. They were so proud
and they were ready for me to congratulate the defense
for being the number one defense in the league. And
I was just about ready to talk, and there's a
banging on the door in the locker room, and here
comes Jerry with Prince Vandar and the whole entourage of people.
Oh boy, you know, wanting to hear my postgame talk.
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And so I looked at them, and I looked at
the team, and I looked at our defensive coaches.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I said, nice game. I'll see you Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I walked off.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Dave said he didn't even congratulate us for being number
one defense.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But that's what you deal with if you're at the
Dallas Cowboys, so you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Know you live down close to Miami and the Tuist situation.
Here's what's a little baffling. If you're gonna re sign
to Okay, but you better have a good backup and
you better have an offensive line. I've been critical of Miami,
not necessarily just for the signing, but the places then
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you have to be good with Tua are o line
and backup. And I is it fair to say they
have not done enough due diligence regarding to his health,
which we all Jimmy, we got to be honest about it.
He's been hurt his whole career. We just have to
be honest about this stuff. I think that's where you
can criticize Miami. Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yeah, he was injured even at Alabama, and so you
had to take that into account. But I think you
can say about the same thing for every team about
having a backup quarterback. In today's football, very rarely do
you have a quarterback that's going to stay healthy the
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entire year. There have been a few exceptions, but for
the most part, that backup quarterback is going to play.
And if you've got a championship football team, uh, you
need a quality backup at least somebody that's going to
be able to execute and not get you beat, not
turn the ball over.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And so the backup has been a real concern, you know.
You know for the Dolphins, I think as far as
upgrading the offensive line, you know, they've had some problems
their injury wise, and then you know, it's where you
allocate your money. They have put their money on their
wide receivers and on their quarterback and a few of
the running backs, the defensive backs, and so you know,
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maybe some of that money could have gone for the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You know, I was saying this. Andy Reid had a
pro bowler in Alex Smith, and he moved off him.
And Sean McVay had Jared Goff, who's pretty damn good,
and he moved off him. Pete Carroll a defensive coach,
is Gino Smith is good enough? And I've been critical
of defensive coaches. I've said, I've seen these offensive guys
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move off good quarterbacks. And I think Sam Donald's good.
But I watched Stafford last night, and I watched Jared
Goff against Donald last week, and he's not golf and
he's not Stafford. And I look at Minnesota going forward, Jimmy,
and Sam's a good player, He's coachable, he's tough. But
I watched that game last night and I'm thinking, if
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you want to hoist a trophy, I just I think
Kevin O'Connell may make a decision. What do you think?
What would you do with Sam Donald? Where do you go?
Because he's he's good, We're we're not denying that right.
What would you do?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I would try to resign him? Try you know, I
like Sam Donald. I like him, you know, I think
he is a winning quarterback. Is he a great quarterback? No,
he's not Patrick Mahomes, so you know, but nobody else
is either. I think you could win with Sam Donald,
So how much money are you going to have to
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pay him? That's going to be a concern you Jj McCarthy,
But who knows how good he's going to be. He's
a rookie and we haven't really seen him prove himself
on the NFL turf. So I would try to, you know,
I try to resign Sam Garnald and hopefully I can
have Donald and McCarthy both own our football team.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So, Jaden Daniels has been great, Cayleb Williams getting better,
bow Nicks is winning games. I mean, Jordan Love his
second year starting looks amazing, Jimmy. Is the quarterback play
getting better? Or have the rules changed to help them?
Because I'm seeing these young guy, I mean, Jayden Daniels
looks like he's been in the league nine years and
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I'm thinking, is he great? He's obviously good. When you
watch these quarterbacks, some of them are so good so fast.
Is it just there better or is the league giving
them a helping hand?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
I think the league's given him a helping hand for
the simple thing, you know, the rules are such that,
you know, it's hard to even touch them, you know,
without getting a penalty.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Uh. The other thing is the the rules are set
for the passing game. Uh. And I think they're getting
better coaching now.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
There's some outstanding offensive coaches in the league right now.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
And the other thing is these offensive coaches, I think
they're adapting the offense to the talent of the individual.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You know, you look at you know, with Washington, with
Jason Daniels say, you know a lot of their offense
is on play action, him running the football and taking
advantage of his speed and and his running ability.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And so I think some of these offensive coaches have
gone away from the pure drop back passer and they've adapted,
you know, their offense to more of a college game.
And I think that's what allowing some of these you know,
players to be successful.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I want to circle back to the Cowboys and the Niners. Listen,
San Francisco is an older team used check Trent Green,
loss off an injury, George Kittle, and even the guys
that aren't old McCaffrey and Debo are such physical players. Jimmy,
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they get banged up that Kyle's system is a physical system.
And I said, if San Francisco loses, they're three and five.
No team's ever made the football at the super Bowl,
and almost none have made the conference championship at three
and five, almost none, zero chance for the Super Bowl
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since nineteen ninety when the playoff format was expanded. If
they lose in Dallas wins, and they're three and five,
when you're having lunch with John Lynch and you're Kyle
Shanahan on Tuesday, do you have to have some thoughts
about moving players at the deadline, getting younger. I mean,
you're good, but Jimmy windows close, as you know, so
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fast in this league. If San Francisco loses, what would
you What are the conversations you'd be having.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Well, you know, it's going to be hard for the
you know, coaching staff, uh to say, hey, you know,
let's kind of look toward the future because we're three
and five. But the thing that I've seen, you know,
not only in professional football, but in collegiate football. You know,
if you've got a veteran team that's really been successful
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and you get off to a horrendous start, a lot
of these old veterans, you know, they don't have that
burning desire you know that a young team might have,
and so sometimes it's difficult for them to overcome, you.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Know, that bad start. Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
And I think with San Francisco's injuries right now, a
lot of guys are not healthy. They're not going to
be one hundred percent healthy and for the next few weeks. Uh,
it's going to be difficult for them to turn it
back around if they are three and five.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you I see the Chiefs got d Hop, I
see the Bills got Amari Cooper, Davonte Adams, Jets Jimmy.
Did you like getting at times expensive? Sometimes they're noisy players,
but whatever, they're all good. Were you a fan of
trade deadline moves?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah? I was.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I was always interested in in trying to pick up
a little spark on our football team, you know, both
in the off season and during the season. I think
it it not only helps your football team, I think
it motivates, uh, the other individuals around them.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I always like to bring in a coach, a new
coach in the off season. Uh.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I always liked, you know, bringing in players during the
season because hey, you know the hop you know, not
only is he gonna help that football team. He's going
to motivate some of the younger guys that are playing
with him.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Uh and so the other thing, I think.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
It even gives you a little bit of a spark,
you know, for your really outstanding veteran players. I think
it gives a spark to Patrick Mahomes. They've been winning
with their defense, but we know how great Mahomes is.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, having just a.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Little bit of a boost for him, I think it
helps their football team. And you know, I think as
long as that defense keeps playing the way they're playing,
and once the offense starts clicking, you know they're going
to be very difficult to beat.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Finally, you were always a big fan of Stafford, even
when he was in Detroit. I watched him last night, Jimmy.
You know it's funny. Well you locked him ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I can tell you from first hand experience from Fox
and NFL Sunday a couple of weeks ago. He throws
a nice pass because he threw one to me and
I to jump about. I thought it was probably two
or three feet, but it was more like two or
three inches and I caught his pass on our Fox
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NFL Sunday shows. Now, but I love Stafford. You know,
of course, you know my my buddy Terry. You know,
Brad Shall has been raving about Stafford, you know here
for years. He said he's got the best throwing motion,
he's the best quarterback in the entire league.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
He loves him. Uh, he is really a talented individual.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
By the way, were you surprised Troy Aikman came out
and called the receivers lazy? I mean, you know he's
there's no bs with him. Were you were you surprised
he did it?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
That's that's Troy. Troy's gonna tell you exactly what he thinks.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Uh, And he's not going to back off and make
any difference if you're Jerry Jones or you're Jimmy Johnson,
you're Mike McCarthy, and Jerry's not gonna go against Troy.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Because everybody loves Troy. So no, it was that didn't
surprise me at all. That's Troy.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, great seeing the coach. Oh was Fox Sports Sunday?
All right? Take care you bet? Yeah, Bradshaw has been
on Stafford for years and he just is one of
those guys. And Bradshaw would know Stafford's one of those
guys that he'll be Stafford will be sixty eight years
old and you will give him a football and he'll
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be able to sling it like some guys. Stafford was
the number one high school quarterback in the country. He
was the number one college quarterback in the country. And
you know, he, like a lot of young talented people,
he went to a bad business and he you know,
he did what he could do. He put up big
numbers and uh, but you know, you can't as good
as Mahomes is. You know, when he didn't have both
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tackles and went to a Super Bowl, he got routed.
You need you need help. And it's funny you watch
Stafford without poo, Pooka, Nakua and Cooper Cup and you're like, yeah,
he's talented. But and then you watch him with Pooka
and Akua and Cooper Cup and you're like, is he
the third best quarterback in the league? I mean that
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Speaker 7 (22:02):
Line news all right, Dallas Cowboys coward. We heard the
story earlier this week about Cowboys players being upset with
the number of fan.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Tours coming through the facility.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Dak Prescott spoke to the fan tours and believes it
has not been a distraction at all.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
I think simple. Honestly, I feel like it's an excuse.
Uh that yeah, I mean, what's the difference in you
guys coming in the locker room and talking.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
I said, well, guys, bitch about that too, And I
don't get that. You got to embrace it. I mean,
honestly to me, you can walk by and you can
have a negative mindset about it and allow that to
ruin your day, or you can be thankful that you're
an organization that people want to see.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, I don't think anybody's using it as an excuse,
but I think former Cowboys saying it's odd and they
feel it's weird. They don't love it. It's a bit
of a distraction, and that's It's not you're not that's
not to blame, but it shows what I think is
a very real look at the Cowboys where marketing and
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promotion often trump's details and winning and that's sort of
the organization. And it doesn't mean it's part of who
Jerry is. And you could say, well, they win twelve
regular season games, But I think it's just something. I know,
if I was a pro athlete and I had choices,
that would be on the five or six things. Look,
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if I was a free agent and I could go anywhere,
I would look at a lot of things, like let's
say I'm a free agent linebacker, who's my coach?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
There?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Is it a winning culture there? Would my wife want
to live there? And then I would look at Dallas
and go, yeah, in Buffalo, it's all football. In Dallas,
it's like mostly football, but it's a lot of distractions
and nonsense. And that would be one of the things
I looked at and went all pass.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Okay, that's an extremely fair point. I see both sides.
To your last point, let me ask you, so all
this stuff about ooh distraction cowboy, how many guys who
played on the Dallas Cowboys are in the announcing booth?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Now?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
How many of them are doing the morning show for sports?
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Like you set yourself up just by playing for the
Cowboys for a post career, yeah, post football career in
the booth or what happened?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well? Yes, former Cowboy quarterbacks like Aikman and Tony Romo
get opportunities. Jason Witten got about a year and they
moved off him. And Michael Irban is the ultimate playmaker.
But here's the other thing. Dallas doesn't win enough at
the highest level for their players to be like like
like Michael Urban's the last non quarterback to be a
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media star. So quarterbacks for Tony Momo.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
He never won anything.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Even nobody was a quarterback. All right, Okay, so my
take is you could say, oh, all the former quarterback,
one non quarterback, Michael Irvin has become you know, had
a twenty year runs as a media star. The truth is,
if if you look around the NF, all right, Chris
collins Worth played for the Bengals, Bradshaw for the Steelers,
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Jimmy coach College and Pro Miami. And the bottom line
is that I think there is a link where cowboy
quarterbacks are given a look at. Oh cowboy quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But I Jason Garrett, sorry, excuse.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, but Greg Olsen is a tight end. I think
there's plenty of guys doing this. Brady was never a cowboy.
I think it comes down to a lot of different
factors to be a broadcaster, right, And this idea, well,
you if you're a cowboy, you make a lot of money.
Well in the NFL, if you're a Kansas City chief,
you make a lot of money. If you're a packer,
you make a lot of money. It's not market dependent.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
So at the same time, the producers are like, hey, Jay,
you know, let's be real. If you're bothered by some
fans taking a tour of the facility. What's it going
to be like on Sunday when seventy five thousand fans
are screaming in an away game, Like you've got to
have awareness that, like this is nothing some fans coming
through the fi.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm saying, it's not a big deal. Everything is something,
nothing is everything. I'm just saying, if I was a
free agent, I mean, I've done this three times in
my career. I get a yellow notepad. I'm thinking of
leaving a place pros cons. It would be on the
notepad like it's a circus the facility. It's weird. It
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would be something i'd mostly care about. Where would my
wife live? What am I getting paid? Is it a
winning culture? I don't want to go to a losing
I don't want to go to Jacksonville. I would rather
go yeah, because it's a losing culture.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's gidding Niners cowboys. Interesting.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
The line came all the way down from I think
five five and a half to three and a half.
Now it's gone back up because Debo's Back is a
fascinating game, even though it's not like a Marquee game.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's still a fascinating So I like San Francisco a lot.
During the week, the debo thing worried me. Debo's gonna
play so and I think Jennings may play. So I'm
gonna take San Francisco to win. I'm gonna go high
scoring Game thirty twenty three.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Also, we should take a tour of the Cowboys facility
together and then when we see players, be like Michael
your podcast, I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Is just just to see if they're.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Ractually the pictures in the story. But he's waving, hey.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
So do you have to like wave back and stuff.
Can't you just put on headphones and tune it out?
I mean, I got the headphones on with the gym.
Guys are coming up j MC.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm like, and I just keep on moving. You know,
I can't stop and talk everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
It's tough, Like I can only imagined being a Cowboys star. Anyways,
let's go to Sam Donald colin story number two. Donald
has been good this season vikings five and two, and
he is the runaway favorite to be the comeback Player
of the Year. Despite his performance, Albert Breer reported during
last night's pregame, the Vikings have not made any long
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term decisions about.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Donald's future with the team.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Now, this is interesting because is Sam Donald really a
you know, mid to above mid quarterback or.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Is this a Kevin O'Connell thing, And then what is
his market like?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
For instance, let's say the Raiders aren't having a top
five to six pick.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Oh, I think and say, oh, actively our guy next year.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Absolutely, absolutely the Raiders would go after him. But remember
Donald with Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson second best left tackle
in the game, is not what you'll get with the Raiders.
With Antonio Pierce and Getsy is the OC. Yeah, I
mean it's so again, it's like it's say, like Gardner
Minshew with Shane Steichen in Indy is not the Gardner
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Minshew you're seeing this year in Las Vegas. Antonio Pierce
is a defensive guy. He didn't no offense. So again,
you you can you can get Sam Darnold, but if
you give up a second round pick, you're not getting
a second round player. And that that's the whole thing.
Like Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay with an offensive coach
in continent Green Bay, Aaron to New York, Aaron if
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you looked at Aaron Rodgers New York numbers, They're not good.
He's like a twenty third best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
By the way, I should point out last night when
Donald lost his left tackle, derisow He the pressure started
to get to him.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
It was not pretty.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
And again people look to overlook the offensive line when
that left tackle left the game, I mean late in
the game.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Darnold was just under.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Season and Thomas for the Giants leaves seasons over for
the Giants, they could have played a lot of games
without Moliite nighbors. Literally, Andrew Thomas gets hurt. They can't
function in New York as an offense.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
To go back to one of your picks earlier, Jags Packers,
the Jags left tackle Cam Robinson. That was part of
the reason I bet the Packers cam Robinson in concussion
protocol all week. They just announced he may be able
to play. He's cleared concussion protocol. That's big for Trevor
Lawrence and your game final story, Colin, Okay, carved out
some time for this. One could get heated, ladies and gentlemen.
So Joel Embiid has a long history of injuries. Okay,
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that had a million surgeries. He's being load managed this season
and hopes that he can be healthy for the playoffs.
And Beid missed the opener, He's gonna miss tonight's game,
and Charles Barkley is really upset about it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Signed for three years, one hundred and ninety three million dollars,
three years, one hundred and nine three million dollars to
play basketball. We're not still workers. We're not nurses like
people who got like real jobs, who have to work
forty to fifty hours a week. We're playing basketball at
the most four days a week, most of the time
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three days a week.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's right, it's outrageous. I mean it's it's I can't
take the sixer seriously, it's you're gonna form no chemistry
with Paul George and Tyrese MAXI. I'm sorry, but you
can say it's old school. A lot of old school
things matter in a presidential race. You know what people
care about the economy. It's old school. They care about
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the economy. That's what drives voters. And by the way,
how many I grew up in a small town. You
get I gotta go to one Sonics gaming year. You're
load managing your superstar. I don't like it at all.
Barkley's one hundred percent right. You're out there is a
you know, you're one of these TikTok influencers. You're just
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going to have a good time and soak it up.
I'm going to see basket.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Oh yeah, you're going down for the ato plays and
all you know, the matchups and all that.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I can't believe you defend m Berkley.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Listen, Charles Barkley's take is awful here.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
We're not steel workers and nurses. Yeah, no, no fake
obviously we get that. By the way, you think nurses
go home and are open their phone at night and
see fifty thousand messages about how bad you suck and
why are you a fraud and a loadvantage.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, no, they don't have to deal with that. Listen,
I'm not defending Embiid.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
He hasn't had best I can tell any surgery since
the Olympics when he played, which is troubling.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
But Barkley cannot have it both ways. Colin.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
He can't say, come playoffs when Embiid is not one
hundred percent due to injuries.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Oh he never shows up in the playoffs. He's not here.
Now Embiid's playing less.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
So he's healthy for the playoffs theoretically, and now we're
criticizing him like Joel Embiid cannot First of all, it
just doesn't seem.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Healthy or not. Embiid never delivered in the playoffs biggest moment.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Usually because he's worn down from playing seventy five games.
Chasing a dumb ends.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Just let's just set a precedent so you know, like
James Harden gets tired too in May, we'll see it
for forty one games. I mean, I mean, what's the precedent. Hey,
Kawhi got the sniffles, let's give him nine days off.
If you're healthy. Play By the way, NFL guys go
out every night. You think the Rams players are all
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healthy by week for nobody way.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
The NFL players go out every night you mean once
a week.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, but they're never healthy. I mean, baseball players play.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Also eleven guys on offense, eleven on events special there's a.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Million guys, and NFL rosters are huge. NBA is top heavy.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Like if something happens to him being and he's out
for the season, the sixers.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Are done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No chance.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Well, you got to protect your investment. I don't want
to see Lebron playing back to backs Collins. I love Lebron,
I don't want to see himlaying back him in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Lebron has delivered. Lebron has played almost every game for
eighteen years or whatever. That's different. This has been in
Embiid's career. He is defined now by not being available.
Kawhi Leonard is that's the first thing you think of,
And the first thing I think with Embiide is he's
never available when it matters.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
He's always hurt.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
He's a seven footer with a freakish bot what is
he seven feet two hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Of course he's going to be injured chills. Barkley can
rant about it.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
He was like a six five, two fifty, you know,
round mound of rebound. By the way, I have Barkley's books,
I'm a huge fan of him. I just think his
takes have gotten so stale and rotten, and he seems
to hate the modern players and have so much, you know,
anger toward all of them. You know, By the way,
did you see what he did to Anthony Edwards? Anthony
Edward's one of the top five guys in the league.
Barkley comes out. Oh, Anthony Edgers a fourteenth best player
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in the league, Get the hell out of here.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Barkley is just he just dismisses this era so much.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's I don't think he dismisses it. I think he
acknowledges that the players now have always it's always been
a player's league, but some of the players are taking
advantage of it. And I think Embid is taking advantage
of it. But again, if mom and dad let you
have ice cream for breakfast, bring over the Napoleon Leopol
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You're tight. You're tight with Darryl Moury.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He's come on the show. Get him on here next week.
Let's ask him about it.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I don't like it at all. Sorry, I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, I won't defend Mory much, but I will
hear sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And you know, Barkley used to come on this show.
He doesn't get near it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Now he's afraid of me because I'm gonna challenge him.
I'm like all these other afraid of you media.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Barley the best guy ever, holds very good.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
How are we gonna miss the TNT show?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Just stop?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Nobody wants to challenge Barkley ever, admit it. Nobody presses him.
Everybody wants to interview Barkley, and then they don't ask
him the tough questions like, hey, you forced your way
out of multiple teams, Charles. Now you see guys doing
you're criticizing them.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Nobody asked him this.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's oh so much.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Sorry for getting fired up there, Buddy J.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
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Speaker 7 (35:09):
Tonight on Fox, the stage is set for an iconic showdown.
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shoe Heyo, Toddy and
the Dodgers in a historic World Series clash. Game one
from Dodger Stadium begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Whenever I hear businesses say this you need a great
marketing campaign, my takeaway is no, you need a better product.
Starbucks didn't run an ad for thirty years. Nobody sold
me on Google. I looked it up. Have a better product,
and so what's interesting whenever I hear you've gotta have
a star receiver. No, you need weapons, but you don't
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have to have a dominant number one like Stefan Diggs
he left Buffalo. Well, look at all of Josh Allen's numbers,
big plays, up, turnovers disappeared without Stefan Diggs, a player
I like. But if your quarterback needs a certain receiver
to win, you got the wrong quarterback. Mahomes didn't need
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Tyreek Hill. Josh Allen's better without Stefan Diggs. Lamar Jackson
won seventy four percent of his games before Zay Flowers
got there. Who's Jordan Love's number one receiver? He didn't
have one. He's got a bunch of guys. So nothing
against Davonte Adams. But Davonte Adams is not worth a
point in an NFL game. And so yeah, it's oh,
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you need a great marketing campaign. Josh Allen is gonna
win the AFC East as long as you give him
a decent run game to give him a little bit
of a break. I do think all great quarterbacks benefit
from a stable to above average run game. So you're
throwing on second and five and third and two, not
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second and eleven and third and nine. The percentages, even
for the great quarterbacks go down. But you know Batman
needed Robin Superman did not. And if you have a
star quarterback like Matt Stafford, you couldn't take Puka, Cooper,
Cup and four offensive line starters away. But last night
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you give him Pooka and almost his incomplete offensive line,
and he's again hot and knife through butter of Minnesota's defense,
which is a good defense.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So you know it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
They's just the idea that you need a star receiver.
It's the same thing. Well, you need a good marketing campaign.
You know what commercial you never see, Come visit Hawaii.
Michigan needs a marketing campaign to go there. I see
Michigan's marketing campaign all the time. Nobody ever tells me
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to go to Hawaii. I can figure it out. It's
sunny with palm trees. I'm there all the time. So
Stefan Diggs is gone, Josh Allen's fine, Amari Cooper's a
pro a veteran. And here's Josh Allen talking about the
new guy at the new relationship.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
I'm just trying to get as much time as possible
with him talking about little nuances in our game plan,
things that I like to see, and vice versa. His
professionalism is through the roof. He's always working on his craft.
He's easy to talk to about what he likes and
you know, I'm excited to see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Don't you think those are interesting comments though, j Mac
his professionalism, always working on his craft. Though. It's an
interesting selection of words, because what you were hearing was
Stefan Diggs got dramatic. I mean, even now Steffan Diggs
is yeah, I'm holding the grudge. I think it's pretty
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interesting that they went and got the opposite personality of
Stefan Diggs with Amri Cooper. Not an opposite receiver per se,
although they're different, but it was the opposite personality they
brought it. A pro known as a route runner never talks.
You never, hear Amari Cooper quoted, He never talks. He's
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never disruptive.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Is this like the second or third time in like
the last month where Josh Allen has said something and
then everybody's like, hmm, I wonder if that's.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
A shot at Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
I feel like he's repeatedly doing this, but not in
a way that's making it up.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I mean, the numbers tell you he's a better quarterback.
So what's changed. Joe Brady didn't change. McDermott didn't change.
The left tackle didn't change. Well, James Cook didn't change.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Let's just look at her. They play, Okay, they played
so that.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You could use that every yea.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Arizona's a bottom seven defense in the league. We would
agree they're terrible. They get trunck by everybody. Miami's defense
that was the Thursday night came to it, got hurt.
Jacksonville's defense is a joke. Josh Allen got smoked by
the Ravens, lost to the Texans, played the Jets defense,
which is criminally overrated, and then Tennessee. So he hasn't
really played anybody. This Seattle game is interesting. Did you
have this in Blazing five?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
By the way, I did not?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Did not? Was it close?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
No? I would have leaned Seattle. I think the wise
guys like Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
I personally don't really care about the wise guys. I
try to find stuff that I don't think other people
have seen. I'm looking at the schedule. Okay, there's a
fourth road game in.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Five weeks for Buffalo. That's a lot of travel. And
do you know who they have next week? Rival Miami
to us back in the division. That's a heated rivalry.
They always go back and forth. Miami wants revenge.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I can see Buffalo easily overlooking this long travel to
Seattle and Seahawks getting the upset.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
This is that's that's.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
A fascinating game. Injury report today will be big for Seattle.
But fourth road game in five weeks. It's a lot
of travel. It is even for a first class you know,
private not private jet, but the charter.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Buffalo slipping up here would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Jets.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Jets beat the Patriots, Buffalo loses and Alfico.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well wait, maybe the AFC East isn't totally over yet.
See that's the optimist to be cowhard.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
There's always, I mean, there's always something behind. That's where
you were fishing. Yeah, you just want, you so much
want to talk AFC East, but I can't.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I gotta band myself.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Come on Urban Meyer next hour.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go live in Los Angeles on a Friday.
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coach in five minutes, Urban Meyer an hour and five
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
So.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We've seen this trend. Best quarterback wins and is winning
a lot over the last two weeks. We saw it
again last night. We saw Russell Wilson out playing Aaron Rodgers. Now,
I'm not saying it's gonna be across the board, but
I do feel like my picks this week. I'm starting
all of them with a conversation, who's the better quarterback?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Didn't you have rams last night? I know I did.
I said Rands Money line a lot of fans.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, I didn't think Puoka was gonna play, and I
know Cooper's not what he was, So without Puka, it's
like a one man show. And Puka was great.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I was hoping you could go six and oh this week,
you know, toss in the Thursday nighter. You know you're
a little hot heading into Halloween.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But I'm not taking all the best quarterbacks. A couple
of dogs, I like, so here we go, are blazing five.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins blazing. Fuck.
Eagles at Bengals.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm taking the Bengals at home minus three. Joe Burrow
eats alive the NFC, like Lamar Jackson. He's ten and
one with twenty four touchdowns and five picks. Their last
three losses Chiefs, Ravens and Commanders. Cincinnati's playing well, They're
losing close games to good teams. Joe Burrows absolutely on fire.
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Leads the NFL with five games with multiple touchdown passes
and one hundred plus passer rating. Jalen Hurts is not hot.
They're overvalued. Philly is overvalued. Their back to back wins
came against the Browns. Maybe the worst team in the
league and the Giants they had seventy yards passing. Jalen
Hurts is struggling. Their offense is easily the worst first
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quarter offense in the league. So Cincinnati's probably taken a
lead and playing with a lead, and their defense doesn't
take the ball away and NFL low two takeaways this year.
I'm taking comfortable. Joe Burrow with a lead at home,
lay the points thirty twenty three Bengals.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Packers at Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, Jordan Loves tied for the NFL leading touchdown passes.
He missed two starts. They are young and getting better
by the Sunday. Green Bay is second in the league
in explosive plays. Jacksonville doesn't offer. Though Jordan Love missed
two games fifteen touchdown passes. His protections much better than
Trevor Lawrence will get and Doug Peterson and the Jags.
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He's on the hot seat three to ten over their
last thirteen games. Their pass defense awfal third down defense
not great, only three takeaways. Again, Jordan Love is going
to be really comfortable. It's only four point. The Jaguars
defense this season it is bad and bad defenses against
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the speed, the efficiency and the coaching of Green Bay.
I'm taking the Packers to cover thirty three to twenty six.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Colt sit Texans.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I like rivalry game in Division. Colts plus five. Without
Nico Collins, Texans offense is not the same. First of all,
believe it or not, the Colts of the highest scoring
offense in the league in the fourth quarter, why run
game and excellent coaching. Jonathan Taylor ankle issue, He's been cleared.
Colts have won for their last five games. They just
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started off slowly. CJ. Stroud. I like him, but the
protection is Jamack pointed out this week. Without Nico Collins,
He's the third most sac quarterback in the league this
year and the second most pressure and Nico Collins is
really the key for this young quarterback to succeed. I
think it's a twenty seven to twenty six game. I
think the Colts may lose, but I'm gonna take them
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to cover. It's twenty seven twenty six. Take the points.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Cardinals at Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I'm gonna take Miami minus four. Listen, they're very good
at home with Mike McDaniel, and this game means not
only a lot to win, but to look good and
get that locker room back on your side. It's a
different offense with Tua. When they have Tua, they're twenty
to twelve. Without him, they're two to six and can't score.
Kyler Murray struggled last week in a win. The worst
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third down defense in the league is Arizona Miami at home.
Arizona on a short week. I think Myami translates third
down to first downs. Also, Arizona's given up six yards
of play Justin Herbert with no perimeter weapons of note
through for three hundred and fifty yards. Tua at home.
This is a flex spot, this locker room. You start
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fraying when you lose, and you lose again, and you
lose again. Miami, if they have a chance, will pour
it on. Dolphins wins score a lot thirty to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Bear's a Commander.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I flipped on this one this morning. I'm gonna take
the Commanders plus three. I like Chicago. Are they good
enough to go on the road and win a game?
Right now? Really? I like them, I don't love them.
I watch Minnesota as a good team. They couldn't win
on the road. The Commanders have not lost a home game,
and Marcus Mariota last week in relief seventy eight percent
completion percentage. This old line, this run game, this offensive staff,
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their defense was awful last year, it's not as bad
this year. It's fifteenth and the Bears three game winning
streak has come against the Rams without Cooper, Cupp and Nakua,
the Panthers, and the Jags. Caleb Williams is one of
the most sacked quarterbacks in the league this year. His
ability to move is fooling people. He's under duress. If
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they had a less mobile quarterback, they'd be in trouble.
And they've got all sorts of injuries do the Bears
on the back end of their defense, corners and safeties
may not play. I'm gonna take the Commanders to win
in what will be a very very good football game
twenty eight to twenty four. Yeah, I think. I think
the Bears old line is not as good as we think,
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but Caleb is making you think it's a little better
than it is. So I'm taking the better quarterback in
a lot of these games. Colts Texans is a division
rivalry game. I'm just gonna take the underdog in a
division rivalry game with Jimmy Johnson to two times Super
Bowl champ, college football champ, and also Fox Sports analysts.
So you know, hey, listen. You know better than anybody
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that Jerry likes to talk, and he's gotten really noisy
over the last two weeks. My favorite part is when
Aikman was critical. The next day, Jerry came out and said, boy,
that's a credible guy there. We better listen to that guy.
So when the noise is engulfing you and you didn't
deal with it, maybe the first year with Jerry he
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was doing business, but every year you'd hear more, How
do you keep the locker room Jimmy quiet? How do
you get out of that stuff?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
I think it really comes with the territory. If you're
going to coach the Dallas Cowboys, you're going to have
to expect, you know, some distractions. You're going to have
to expect on a weekly basis, answering questions about what
your owner said. So it really, like I said, I
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think McCarthy he knew what he was getting into when he.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Took the job.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
I think any coach that goes to the Dallas Cowboys,
that's what they deal with. And it's it's really not
even up for discussion, and that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, there was a story this week about the
facility and the tours, and you know, players wouldn't say
it that were with the Cowboys, but ex Cowboys were like,
it's a bit of a zoo. I'm just trying to
get a workout in. Listen, it's Jerry the Marketer. I
don't think any coach I think, I don't think any
coach wants that. Again, it's not ideal. Would that drive
(08:28):
you nuts?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Well, I'll give you a quick story.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Jerry's was close friends with Prince Vandar Saudi Arabia, and
so I had.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
A rule you know that you know with the players.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
You know, once I shut the door after the game,
I'm talking to the team and nobody could get in.
I got into it with Charles Haley when he was
a little bit late. I wouldn't let him in the room. Well,
I start talking to the team after the Chicago game
at the end of the season, and we had just
become the number one defense in the league, and Dave
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Wan said and all that crew. They were so proud
and they were ready for me to congratulate the defense
for being the number one defense in the league. And
I was just about ready to talk, and there's a
banging on the door in the locker room, and here
comes Jerry with Prince Vandar and the whole entourage of people.
Oh boy, you know, wanting to hear my postgame talk.
(09:30):
And so I looked at them, and I looked at
the team, and I looked at our defensive coaches.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I said, nice game. I'll see you Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I walked off.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
Dave said he didn't even congratulate us for being number
one defense.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But that's what you deal with if you're at the
Dallas Cowboys, so you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Know you live down close to Miami and the Tuist situation.
Here's what's a little baffling. If you're gonna re sign
to Okay, but you better have a good backup and
you better have an offensive line. I've been critical of Miami,
not necessarily just for the signing, but the places then
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you have to be good with Tua are o line
and backup. And I is it fair to say they
have not done enough due diligence regarding to his health,
which we all Jimmy, we got to be honest about it.
He's been hurt his whole career. We just have to
be honest about this stuff. I think that's where you
can criticize Miami. Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yeah, he was injured even at Alabama, and so you
had to take that into account. But I think you
can say about the same thing for every team about
having a backup quarterback. In today's football, very rarely do
you have a quarterback that's going to stay healthy the
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entire year. There have been a few exceptions, but for
the most part, that backup quarterback is going to play.
And if you've got a championship football team, uh, you
need a quality backup at least somebody that's going to
be able to execute and not get you beat, not
turn the ball over.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And so the backup has been a real concern, you know.
You know for the Dolphins, I think as far as
upgrading the offensive line, you know, they've had some problems
their injury wise, and then you know, it's where you
allocate your money. They have put their money on their
wide receivers and on their quarterback and a few of
the running backs, the defensive backs, and so you know,
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maybe some of that money could have gone for the
offensive line.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
You know, I was saying this. Andy Reid had a
pro bowler in Alex Smith, and he moved off him.
And Sean McVay had Jared Goff, who's pretty damn good,
and he moved off him. Pete Carroll a defensive coach,
is Gino Smith is good enough? And I've been critical
of defensive coaches. I've said, I've seen these offensive guys
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move off good quarterbacks. And I think Sam Donald's good.
But I watched Stafford last night, and I watched Jared
Goff against Donald last week, and he's not golf and
he's not Stafford. And I look at Minnesota going forward, Jimmy,
and Sam's a good player, He's coachable, he's tough. But
I watched that game last night and I'm thinking, if
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you want to hoist a trophy, I just I think
Kevin O'Connell may make a decision. What do you think?
What would you do with Sam Donald? Where do you go?
Because he's he's good, We're we're not denying that right.
What would you do?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I would try to resign him? Try you know, I
like Sam Donald. I like him, you know, I think
he is a winning quarterback. Is he a great quarterback? No,
he's not Patrick Mahomes, so you know, but nobody else
is either. I think you could win with Sam Donald,
So how much money are you going to have to
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pay him? That's going to be a concern you Jj McCarthy,
But who knows how good he's going to be. He's
a rookie and we haven't really seen him prove himself
on the NFL turf. So I would try to, you know,
I try to resign Sam Garnald and hopefully I can
have Donald and McCarthy both own our football team.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So, Jaden Daniels has been great, Cayleb Williams getting better,
bow Nicks is winning games. I mean, Jordan Love his
second year starting looks amazing, Jimmy. Is the quarterback play
getting better? Or have the rules changed to help them?
Because I'm seeing these young guy, I mean, Jayden Daniels
looks like he's been in the league nine years and
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I'm thinking, is he great? He's obviously good. When you
watch these quarterbacks, some of them are so good so fast.
Is it just there better or is the league giving
them a helping hand?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
I think the league's given him a helping hand for
the simple thing, you know, the rules are such that,
you know, it's hard to even touch them, you know,
without getting a penalty.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Uh. The other thing is the the rules are set
for the passing game. Uh. And I think they're getting
better coaching now.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
There's some outstanding offensive coaches in the league right now.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
And the other thing is these offensive coaches, I think
they're adapting the offense to the talent of the individual.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You know, you look at you know, with Washington, with
Jason Daniels say, you know a lot of their offense
is on play action, him running the football and taking
advantage of his speed and and his running ability.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And so I think some of these offensive coaches have
gone away from the pure drop back passer and they've adapted,
you know, their offense to more of a college game.
And I think that's what allowing some of these you know,
players to be successful.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I want to circle back to the Cowboys and the Niners. Listen,
San Francisco is an older team used check Trent Green,
loss off an injury, George Kittle, and even the guys
that aren't old McCaffrey and Debo are such physical players. Jimmy,
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they get banged up that Kyle's system is a physical system.
And I said, if San Francisco loses, they're three and five.
No team's ever made the football at the super Bowl,
and almost none have made the conference championship at three
and five, almost none, zero chance for the Super Bowl
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since nineteen ninety when the playoff format was expanded. If
they lose in Dallas wins, and they're three and five,
when you're having lunch with John Lynch and you're Kyle
Shanahan on Tuesday, do you have to have some thoughts
about moving players at the deadline, getting younger. I mean,
you're good, but Jimmy windows close, as you know, so
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fast in this league. If San Francisco loses, what would
you What are the conversations you'd be having.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Well, you know, it's going to be hard for the
you know, coaching staff, uh to say, hey, you know,
let's kind of look toward the future because we're three
and five. But the thing that I've seen, you know,
not only in professional football, but in collegiate football. You know,
if you've got a veteran team that's really been successful
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and you get off to a horrendous start, a lot
of these old veterans, you know, they don't have that
burning desire you know that a young team might have,
and so sometimes it's difficult for them to overcome, you.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Know, that bad start. Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
And I think with San Francisco's injuries right now, a
lot of guys are not healthy. They're not going to
be one hundred percent healthy and for the next few weeks. Uh,
it's going to be difficult for them to turn it
back around if they are three and five.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Did you I see the Chiefs got d Hop, I
see the Bills got Amari Cooper, Davonte Adams, Jets Jimmy.
Did you like getting at times expensive? Sometimes they're noisy players,
but whatever, they're all good. Were you a fan of
trade deadline moves?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah? I was.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I was always interested in in trying to pick up
a little spark on our football team, you know, both
in the off season and during the season. I think
it it not only helps your football team, I think
it motivates, uh, the other individuals around them.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I always like to bring in a coach, a new
coach in the off season. Uh.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
I always liked, you know, bringing in players during the
season because hey, you know the hop you know, not
only is he gonna help that football team. He's going
to motivate some of the younger guys that are playing
with him.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Uh and so the other thing, I think.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
It even gives you a little bit of a spark,
you know, for your really outstanding veteran players. I think
it gives a spark to Patrick Mahomes. They've been winning
with their defense, but we know how great Mahomes is.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, having just a.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Little bit of a boost for him, I think it
helps their football team. And you know, I think as
long as that defense keeps playing the way they're playing,
and once the offense starts clicking, you know they're going
to be very difficult to beat.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Finally, you were always a big fan of Stafford, even
when he was in Detroit. I watched him last night, Jimmy.
You know it's funny. Well you locked him ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I can tell you from first hand experience from Fox
and NFL Sunday a couple of weeks ago. He throws
a nice pass because he threw one to me and
I to jump about. I thought it was probably two
or three feet, but it was more like two or
three inches and I caught his pass on our Fox
(19:09):
NFL Sunday shows. Now, but I love Stafford. You know,
of course, you know my my buddy Terry. You know,
Brad Shall has been raving about Stafford, you know here
for years. He said he's got the best throwing motion,
he's the best quarterback in the entire league.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
He loves him. Uh, he is really a talented individual.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
By the way, were you surprised Troy Aikman came out
and called the receivers lazy? I mean, you know he's
there's no bs with him. Were you were you surprised
he did it?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
That's that's Troy. Troy's gonna tell you exactly what he thinks.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Uh, And he's not going to back off and make
any difference if you're Jerry Jones or you're Jimmy Johnson,
you're Mike McCarthy, and Jerry's not gonna go against Troy.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Because everybody loves Troy. So no, it was that didn't
surprise me at all. That's Troy.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, great seeing the coach. Oh was Fox Sports Sunday?
All right? Take care you bet? Yeah, Bradshaw has been
on Stafford for years and he just is one of
those guys. And Bradshaw would know Stafford's one of those
guys that he'll be Stafford will be sixty eight years
old and you will give him a football and he'll
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be able to sling it like some guys. Stafford was
the number one high school quarterback in the country. He
was the number one college quarterback in the country. And
you know, he, like a lot of young talented people,
he went to a bad business and he you know,
he did what he could do. He put up big
numbers and uh, but you know, you can't as good
as Mahomes is. You know, when he didn't have both
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tackles and went to a Super Bowl, he got routed.
You need you need help. And it's funny you watch
Stafford without poo, Pooka, Nakua and Cooper Cup and you're like, yeah,
he's talented. But and then you watch him with Pooka
and Akua and Cooper Cup and you're like, is he
the third best quarterback in the league? I mean that
Minnesota defense, that's one of the best coordinators in the sport.
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Speaker 7 (22:02):
Line news all right, Dallas Cowboys coward. We heard the
story earlier this week about Cowboys players being upset with
the number of fan.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Tours coming through the facility.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Dak Prescott spoke to the fan tours and believes it
has not been a distraction at all.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
I think simple. Honestly, I feel like it's an excuse.
Uh that yeah, I mean, what's the difference in you
guys coming in the locker room and talking.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
I said, well, guys, bitch about that too, And I
don't get that. You got to embrace it. I mean,
honestly to me, you can walk by and you can
have a negative mindset about it and allow that to
ruin your day, or you can be thankful that you're
an organization that people want to see.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, I don't think anybody's using it as an excuse,
but I think former Cowboys saying it's odd and they
feel it's weird. They don't love it. It's a bit
of a distraction, and that's It's not you're not that's
not to blame, but it shows what I think is
a very real look at the Cowboys where marketing and
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promotion often trump's details and winning and that's sort of
the organization. And it doesn't mean it's part of who
Jerry is. And you could say, well, they win twelve
regular season games, But I think it's just something. I know,
if I was a pro athlete and I had choices,
that would be on the five or six things. Look,
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if I was a free agent and I could go anywhere,
I would look at a lot of things, like let's
say I'm a free agent linebacker, who's my coach?
Speaker 5 (23:33):
There?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Is it a winning culture there? Would my wife want
to live there? And then I would look at Dallas
and go, yeah, in Buffalo, it's all football. In Dallas,
it's like mostly football, but it's a lot of distractions
and nonsense. And that would be one of the things
I looked at and went all pass.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
Okay, that's an extremely fair point. I see both sides.
To your last point, let me ask you, so all
this stuff about ooh distraction cowboy, how many guys who
played on the Dallas Cowboys are in the announcing booth?
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Now?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
How many of them are doing the morning show for sports?
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Like you set yourself up just by playing for the
Cowboys for a post career, yeah, post football career in
the booth or what happened?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well? Yes, former Cowboy quarterbacks like Aikman and Tony Romo
get opportunities. Jason Witten got about a year and they
moved off him. And Michael Irban is the ultimate playmaker.
But here's the other thing. Dallas doesn't win enough at
the highest level for their players to be like like
like Michael Urban's the last non quarterback to be a
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media star. So quarterbacks for Tony Momo.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
He never won anything.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Even nobody was a quarterback. All right, Okay, so my
take is you could say, oh, all the former quarterback,
one non quarterback, Michael Irvin has become you know, had
a twenty year runs as a media star. The truth is,
if if you look around the NF, all right, Chris
collins Worth played for the Bengals, Bradshaw for the Steelers,
(25:04):
Jimmy coach College and Pro Miami. And the bottom line
is that I think there is a link where cowboy
quarterbacks are given a look at. Oh cowboy quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
But I Jason Garrett, sorry, excuse.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, but Greg Olsen is a tight end. I think
there's plenty of guys doing this. Brady was never a cowboy.
I think it comes down to a lot of different
factors to be a broadcaster, right, And this idea, well,
you if you're a cowboy, you make a lot of money.
Well in the NFL, if you're a Kansas City chief,
you make a lot of money. If you're a packer,
you make a lot of money. It's not market dependent.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
So at the same time, the producers are like, hey, Jay,
you know, let's be real. If you're bothered by some
fans taking a tour of the facility. What's it going
to be like on Sunday when seventy five thousand fans
are screaming in an away game, Like you've got to
have awareness that, like this is nothing some fans coming
through the fi.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I'm saying, it's not a big deal. Everything is something,
nothing is everything. I'm just saying, if I was a
free agent, I mean, I've done this three times in
my career. I get a yellow notepad. I'm thinking of
leaving a place pros cons. It would be on the
notepad like it's a circus the facility. It's weird. It
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would be something i'd mostly care about. Where would my
wife live? What am I getting paid? Is it a
winning culture? I don't want to go to a losing
I don't want to go to Jacksonville. I would rather
go yeah, because it's a losing culture.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's gidding Niners cowboys. Interesting.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
The line came all the way down from I think
five five and a half to three and a half.
Now it's gone back up because Debo's Back is a
fascinating game, even though it's not like a Marquee game.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's still a fascinating So I like San Francisco a lot.
During the week, the debo thing worried me. Debo's gonna
play so and I think Jennings may play. So I'm
gonna take San Francisco to win. I'm gonna go high
scoring Game thirty twenty three.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Also, we should take a tour of the Cowboys facility
together and then when we see players, be like Michael
your podcast, I love it.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Is just just to see if they're.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Ractually the pictures in the story. But he's waving, hey.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
So do you have to like wave back and stuff.
Can't you just put on headphones and tune it out?
I mean, I got the headphones on with the gym.
Guys are coming up j MC.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I'm like, and I just keep on moving. You know,
I can't stop and talk everybody.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You know that.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
It's tough, Like I can only imagined being a Cowboys star. Anyways,
let's go to Sam Donald colin story number two. Donald
has been good this season vikings five and two, and
he is the runaway favorite to be the comeback Player
of the Year. Despite his performance, Albert Breer reported during
last night's pregame, the Vikings have not made any long
(27:45):
term decisions about.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Donald's future with the team.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Now, this is interesting because is Sam Donald really a
you know, mid to above mid quarterback or.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Is this a Kevin O'Connell thing, And then what is
his market like?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
For instance, let's say the Raiders aren't having a top
five to six pick.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Oh, I think and say, oh, actively our guy next year.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Absolutely, absolutely the Raiders would go after him. But remember
Donald with Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson second best left tackle
in the game, is not what you'll get with the Raiders.
With Antonio Pierce and Getsy is the OC. Yeah, I
mean it's so again, it's like it's say, like Gardner
Minshew with Shane Steichen in Indy is not the Gardner
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Minshew you're seeing this year in Las Vegas. Antonio Pierce
is a defensive guy. He didn't no offense. So again,
you you can you can get Sam Darnold, but if
you give up a second round pick, you're not getting
a second round player. And that that's the whole thing.
Like Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay with an offensive coach
in continent Green Bay, Aaron to New York, Aaron if
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you looked at Aaron Rodgers New York numbers, They're not good.
He's like a twenty third best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
By the way, I should point out last night when
Donald lost his left tackle, derisow He the pressure started
to get to him.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
It was not pretty.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
And again people look to overlook the offensive line when
that left tackle left the game, I mean late in
the game.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Darnold was just under.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Season and Thomas for the Giants leaves seasons over for
the Giants, they could have played a lot of games
without Moliite nighbors. Literally, Andrew Thomas gets hurt. They can't
function in New York as an offense.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
To go back to one of your picks earlier, Jags Packers,
the Jags left tackle Cam Robinson. That was part of
the reason I bet the Packers cam Robinson in concussion
protocol all week. They just announced he may be able
to play. He's cleared concussion protocol. That's big for Trevor
Lawrence and your game final story, Colin, Okay, carved out
some time for this. One could get heated, ladies and gentlemen.
So Joel Embiid has a long history of injuries. Okay,
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that had a million surgeries. He's being load managed this season
and hopes that he can be healthy for the playoffs.
And Beid missed the opener, He's gonna miss tonight's game,
and Charles Barkley is really upset about it.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Signed for three years, one hundred and ninety three million dollars,
three years, one hundred and nine three million dollars to
play basketball. We're not still workers. We're not nurses like
people who got like real jobs, who have to work
forty to fifty hours a week. We're playing basketball at
the most four days a week, most of the time
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three days a week.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's right, it's outrageous. I mean it's it's I can't
take the sixer seriously, it's you're gonna form no chemistry
with Paul George and Tyrese MAXI. I'm sorry, but you
can say it's old school. A lot of old school
things matter in a presidential race. You know what people
care about the economy. It's old school. They care about
(30:43):
the economy. That's what drives voters. And by the way,
how many I grew up in a small town. You
get I gotta go to one Sonics gaming year. You're
load managing your superstar. I don't like it at all.
Barkley's one hundred percent right. You're out there is a
you know, you're one of these TikTok influencers. You're just
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going to have a good time and soak it up.
I'm going to see basket.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Oh yeah, you're going down for the ato plays and
all you know, the matchups and all that.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I can't believe you defend m Berkley.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Listen, Charles Barkley's take is awful here.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
We're not steel workers and nurses. Yeah, no, no fake
obviously we get that. By the way, you think nurses
go home and are open their phone at night and
see fifty thousand messages about how bad you suck and
why are you a fraud and a loadvantage.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
No, no, they don't have to deal with that. Listen,
I'm not defending Embiid.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
He hasn't had best I can tell any surgery since
the Olympics when he played, which is troubling.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
But Barkley cannot have it both ways. Colin.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
He can't say, come playoffs when Embiid is not one
hundred percent due to injuries.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Oh he never shows up in the playoffs. He's not here.
Now Embiid's playing less.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
So he's healthy for the playoffs theoretically, and now we're
criticizing him like Joel Embiid cannot First of all, it
just doesn't seem.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Healthy or not. Embiid never delivered in the playoffs biggest moment.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Usually because he's worn down from playing seventy five games.
Chasing a dumb ends.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Just let's just set a precedent so you know, like
James Harden gets tired too in May, we'll see it
for forty one games. I mean, I mean, what's the precedent. Hey,
Kawhi got the sniffles, let's give him nine days off.
If you're healthy. Play By the way, NFL guys go
out every night. You think the Rams players are all
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healthy by week for nobody way.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
The NFL players go out every night you mean once
a week.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, but they're never healthy. I mean, baseball players play.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Also eleven guys on offense, eleven on events special there's a.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Million guys, and NFL rosters are huge. NBA is top heavy.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Like if something happens to him being and he's out
for the season, the sixers.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Are done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No chance.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Well, you got to protect your investment. I don't want
to see Lebron playing back to backs Collins. I love Lebron,
I don't want to see himlaying back him in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Lebron has delivered. Lebron has played almost every game for
eighteen years or whatever. That's different. This has been in
Embiid's career. He is defined now by not being available.
Kawhi Leonard is that's the first thing you think of,
And the first thing I think with Embiide is he's
never available when it matters.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
He's always hurt.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
He's a seven footer with a freakish bot what is
he seven feet two hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Of course he's going to be injured chills. Barkley can
rant about it.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
He was like a six five, two fifty, you know,
round mound of rebound. By the way, I have Barkley's books,
I'm a huge fan of him. I just think his
takes have gotten so stale and rotten, and he seems
to hate the modern players and have so much, you know,
anger toward all of them. You know, By the way,
did you see what he did to Anthony Edwards? Anthony
Edward's one of the top five guys in the league.
Barkley comes out. Oh, Anthony Edgers a fourteenth best player
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in the league, Get the hell out of here.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Barkley is just he just dismisses this era so much.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's I don't think he dismisses it. I think he
acknowledges that the players now have always it's always been
a player's league, but some of the players are taking
advantage of it. And I think Embid is taking advantage
of it. But again, if mom and dad let you
have ice cream for breakfast, bring over the Napoleon Leopol
(34:10):
You're tight. You're tight with Darryl Moury.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He's come on the show. Get him on here next week.
Let's ask him about it.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I don't like it at all. Sorry, I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I mean, I won't defend Mory much, but I will
hear sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And you know, Barkley used to come on this show.
He doesn't get near it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Now he's afraid of me because I'm gonna challenge him.
I'm like all these other afraid of you media.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Barley the best guy ever, holds very good.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
How are we gonna miss the TNT show?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Just stop?
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Nobody wants to challenge Barkley ever, admit it. Nobody presses him.
Everybody wants to interview Barkley, and then they don't ask
him the tough questions like, hey, you forced your way
out of multiple teams, Charles. Now you see guys doing
you're criticizing them.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Nobody asked him this.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's oh so much.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Sorry for getting fired up there, Buddy J.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Herd weekdays and neonon Eastern not am Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio FS one, and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Tonight on Fox, the stage is set for an iconic showdown.
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shoe Heyo, Toddy and
the Dodgers in a historic World Series clash. Game one
from Dodger Stadium begins at seven pm Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Whenever I hear businesses say this you need a great
marketing campaign, my takeaway is no, you need a better product.
Starbucks didn't run an ad for thirty years. Nobody sold
me on Google. I looked it up. Have a better product,
and so what's interesting whenever I hear you've gotta have
a star receiver. No, you need weapons, but you don't
(35:48):
have to have a dominant number one like Stefan Diggs
he left Buffalo. Well, look at all of Josh Allen's numbers,
big plays, up, turnovers disappeared without Stefan Diggs, a player
I like. But if your quarterback needs a certain receiver
to win, you got the wrong quarterback. Mahomes didn't need
(36:10):
Tyreek Hill. Josh Allen's better without Stefan Diggs. Lamar Jackson
won seventy four percent of his games before Zay Flowers
got there. Who's Jordan Love's number one receiver? He didn't
have one. He's got a bunch of guys. So nothing
against Davonte Adams. But Davonte Adams is not worth a
point in an NFL game. And so yeah, it's oh,
(36:33):
you need a great marketing campaign. Josh Allen is gonna
win the AFC East as long as you give him
a decent run game to give him a little bit
of a break. I do think all great quarterbacks benefit
from a stable to above average run game. So you're
throwing on second and five and third and two, not
(36:54):
second and eleven and third and nine. The percentages, even
for the great quarterbacks go down. But you know Batman
needed Robin Superman did not. And if you have a
star quarterback like Matt Stafford, you couldn't take Puka, Cooper,
Cup and four offensive line starters away. But last night
(37:17):
you give him Pooka and almost his incomplete offensive line,
and he's again hot and knife through butter of Minnesota's defense,
which is a good defense.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So you know it.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
They's just the idea that you need a star receiver.
It's the same thing. Well, you need a good marketing campaign.
You know what commercial you never see, Come visit Hawaii.
Michigan needs a marketing campaign to go there. I see
Michigan's marketing campaign all the time. Nobody ever tells me
(37:49):
to go to Hawaii. I can figure it out. It's
sunny with palm trees. I'm there all the time. So
Stefan Diggs is gone, Josh Allen's fine, Amari Cooper's a
pro a veteran. And here's Josh Allen talking about the
new guy at the new relationship.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
I'm just trying to get as much time as possible
with him talking about little nuances in our game plan,
things that I like to see, and vice versa. His
professionalism is through the roof. He's always working on his craft.
He's easy to talk to about what he likes and
you know, I'm excited to see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Don't you think those are interesting comments though, j Mac
his professionalism, always working on his craft. Though. It's an
interesting selection of words, because what you were hearing was
Stefan Diggs got dramatic. I mean, even now Steffan Diggs
is yeah, I'm holding the grudge. I think it's pretty
(38:44):
interesting that they went and got the opposite personality of
Stefan Diggs with Amri Cooper. Not an opposite receiver per se,
although they're different, but it was the opposite personality they
brought it. A pro known as a route runner never talks.
You never, hear Amari Cooper quoted, He never talks. He's
(39:06):
never disruptive.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
Is this like the second or third time in like
the last month where Josh Allen has said something and
then everybody's like, hmm, I wonder if that's.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
A shot at Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
I feel like he's repeatedly doing this, but not in
a way that's making it up.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I mean, the numbers tell you he's a better quarterback.
So what's changed. Joe Brady didn't change. McDermott didn't change.
The left tackle didn't change. Well, James Cook didn't change.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Let's just look at her. They play, Okay, they played
so that.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You could use that every yea.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Arizona's a bottom seven defense in the league. We would
agree they're terrible. They get trunck by everybody. Miami's defense
that was the Thursday night came to it, got hurt.
Jacksonville's defense is a joke. Josh Allen got smoked by
the Ravens, lost to the Texans, played the Jets defense,
which is criminally overrated, and then Tennessee. So he hasn't
really played anybody. This Seattle game is interesting. Did you
have this in Blazing five?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
By the way, I did not?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Did not? Was it close?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
No? I would have leaned Seattle. I think the wise
guys like Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
I personally don't really care about the wise guys. I
try to find stuff that I don't think other people
have seen. I'm looking at the schedule. Okay, there's a
fourth road game in.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Five weeks for Buffalo. That's a lot of travel. And
do you know who they have next week? Rival Miami
to us back in the division. That's a heated rivalry.
They always go back and forth. Miami wants revenge.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I can see Buffalo easily overlooking this long travel to
Seattle and Seahawks getting the upset.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
This is that's that's.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
A fascinating game. Injury report today will be big for Seattle.
But fourth road game in five weeks. It's a lot
of travel. It is even for a first class you know,
private not private jet, but the charter.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Buffalo slipping up here would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Jets.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Jets beat the Patriots, Buffalo loses and Alfico.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well wait, maybe the AFC East isn't totally over yet.
See that's the optimist to be cowhard.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
There's always, I mean, there's always something behind. That's where
you were fishing. Yeah, you just want, you so much
want to talk AFC East, but I can't.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I gotta band myself.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Come on Urban Meyer next hour.
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