October 28, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin is done buying into the Cowboys after another loss to the 49ers and why we need to finally accept they are not a good enough team. He tells you why he was right about Matthew Stafford and wrong about the Lakers. Plus Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez joins the show in studio to talk about the Chargers offense as they look to make a playoff run under head coach Jim Harbaugh
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go to Monday. We are ready to rock
and roll live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. You
can check out our set. Halloween is Thursday, one hour
from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
Another joyous weekend starting Friday night with the World Series.
Dodgers have a two O League Game three tonight in
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New York. We'll talk about that later. Jmac Dallas Cowboy
was It may be it may be time to rebuild,
like now maybe Wow, what a disaster they are? What
a disaster? Well stop me if you've heard this before.
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The Cowboys got beat handily by San Francisco and Dak
had several interceptions. Brock Perty alone rushed for more yards
than the Dallas Cowboys. They are a poorly constructed football operation,
their defense. Only the Carolina Panthers have a worse defense
in the NFL. Hey, but Dak got the bag again.
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Good luck with that. I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately
have to consider being sellers at the deadline. Their schedule
gets even harder. It's time for a rebuild. They do
nothing well a rebuild starting with a kicker. I like him.
He didn't even show up. He had jury duty. He's
still good, like the kicker. But this is a really
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bad football team. And the next four games are against
the Falcons and the Eagles and the Texans and the Commanders,
and all of those teams won yesterday, and all those
teams now are playing really good football. So you think, oh,
we got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd
argue right now, the Commanders are playing better than the Niners.
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The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean the Texans. Say
what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy,
they're really good. In Atlanta, they're gonna win their division.
I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three
and four. San Francisco was down like four or five
high end starters. They were on their third running back,
they're on their third kicker, and then Deebo Samuel gets
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hurt during the game. Brock Purtty didn't play well and
they still rushed for two hundred and twenty three yards.
They still did it. I mean they're down multiple players.
Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon, Greg Jenny, Joan Jennings coming
back soon. They're getting guys pack So off of by
Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half,
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but then they went to the second half and the
Cowboys first three second half drives. Listen to this pick
three and out, three and out and the Niners, with
the better coach making adjustments their first three possessions in
the second half touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. They out gained the
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Cowboys just in the third quarter almost ten to one.
So and this is off of buy this is when
you're arrested. Yeah, Micah Parsons wasn't there, I mean, how
many Christian McCaffrey wasn't there for the other guy. So,
you know the old saying, if you fool me once,
shame on you. If you fool me twice, shame on me.
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If you fool all of us, for like twenty nine years.
What does that translate to the Mike McCarthy Cowboys look
now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the
way Philip Cowboys, that look like the Chan Gaily Cowboys.
I mean, outside of Boeing, has any major brand fallen
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harder and faster in the last twelve months than the
Dallas Cowboys. I just don't get it. The schedule is
getting tougher. DAK against the better teams can't play. I
think you have to sell it. I think you have
to keep the kicker, keep Ceedee Lamb. I guess you
keep DAK and just move parts. Trade deadline's coming up.
A lot of people would go for Micah Parsons. A
lot of people would DeMarcus Lawrence one of the corners.
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Maybe you're tied in, you're a mile away from Detroit,
you're a I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster
is stacked. San Francisco is better than you, and they're
not healthy yet. Kansas City's and Buffalo's and Baltimore's and Houston's,
and I mean the Chargers looked good yesterday. I mean,
this roster is not top ten. I'm not sure if
it's top fifteen in the league. I think you gotta
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sell it. And I mean, you're stuck with Dak, and
you know Dak against the Niners, you get interceptions, that's
what you get. And here's here's the quarterback after.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Not turn the ball over.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Period. As I said, I don't have to be perfect,
but I damn sure can't be having the turnovers.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Frustrated myself that my play.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I imagine the rest of the guys are not getting
to win two now two in a row, sitting at
three and four. But but I can definitely tell you
that that nobody's shaken or giving up. Frustration is very high.
But but it's a long.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Season, no it, and it keeps getting longer the more
they play. That's when you know you're in trouble when
a long season tappening to the Jets feels longer after
every game is over. I mean, the Niners were off
a tough, physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City.
The Cowboys had to buy so this was a perfect
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opportunity to finally knock out San Francisco, and that third
quarter it was a coaching miss man, a run game mismatch,
a quarterback mismatch. I think you tear it down and
rebuild it. It's painful. Cowboy fans are loyal, but this
doesn't work, and this isn't close, and here come the
Commanders and the Eagles and the Texans and the Falcons.
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You could, I mean, you could lose all of those games. Okay,
so yesterday, I mean, I'm not somebody that you know says,
you know, this coach needs to be fired or get
rid of this staff. I'll make an exception. Today, multiple
people probably need to lose their job. That coach the
Chicago Bears. They lost to Washington, and they deserve to
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lose to Washington. That was not luck with a hail Mary. Okay,
maybe it was luck. But what I saw in the
second half may have been the worst coaching I have
seen by an NFL team over the course of a
half in years. I mean, Number one, handing the ball
to a backup center. You've got good running backs, you've
got good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers. Handing
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the ball to a backup center. That was your best
drive of the day to that point. You'd had one
big run, but that was the best drive of the
day to that point, and that's your play off a bye.
That's the play, that's your clever play.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That is just.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's non negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina.
You've got players, in fact, you've spent money on the
offensive side, multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back,
a capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback. That can't
be it off a bye. Secondly, on the hail Mary,
you got one of your defensive players, John with Fans
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as the ball and the ball's in play, he's just
Jawn with Fans. I mean there's also the fact that
you have a linebacker on that play spying on Jaden
Daniels instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going
to peel off a fifty two yard touchdown run. What
are you doing? I mean, this is just coming off
a bye. Chicago's first seven possessions coming off a bye,
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six punts and a turnover on downs. What is going on?
Why do you use that extra work to hand the
ball off to a backup center and not be prepared
on a hail Mary? I mean, Caleb Williams was bad
in the first half, better than the second, but didn't
play well. What you saw yesterday is two young, ascending
teams and two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you
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don't feel this way this morning. Jayden Daniels, that's gonna work.
He's got a support system, Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, dan Quinn
new owner. It kind of feels like it's not only
gonna work, it's working. Now forget the hail Mary. They
outplayed Chicago. Caleb is starting to feel a lot like
Andrew Locke, where you're like, you may need to clean
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house because this kid's gonna get hurt. But that is
just unforgivable nonsense. Yesterday, I you know, I'm I never
see anything like it, And I'm not somebody who stands
up here and says fire this fire, that fire. I
usually defer. I mean I defend a Harball for years
at Michigan when you wanted him out, or a Brian
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Kelly at Notre Dame, or a Lincoln Riley, or I
tend to be a sark after a bad loss. I
tend to be like, you know, it's hard that stuff
off a by it was a it was here's the
airth thing. Listen. After they're defending the handoff and defending
everything about that.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Obviously, the guys were disappointed. When you lose a game
like that, you know, that's a tough one to swallow.
And we've practiced that play one hundred times since we've
been here, and again, I'll have to look at what
the execution was of that. But we have a body
on a body boxing guys out again. I got to
look at it and detail it out and make sure
we're better next time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said,
we practiced that thing one hundred times on like the
thirty eighth time you practiced it, did not somebody on
the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's
a back. We got really good running backs. Can we
just scrap this like it's not gonna work. I mean,
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here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for
a touchdown. You don't get any extra points if you
use a backup center then one of your running backs.
And by the way, if I was a star running
back for the Bears and I worked so hard being
a running back, can't you give me the one yard
touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it,
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Hail Mary looked disorganized that I could go on and
on about their you know, fade pattern in the end zone,
which is like a three percent call. Nothing about Chicago
in the second half is endaring, none of it. I mean,
move off? Who you got to move off? But that's
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a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck. One of my
favorite things is when you go to the local radio
team on a crazy win. So if you haven't heard it,
this is the Commander's radio broadcast team after the hail
Mary works for me. With the goal on they break three,
Davie's backing up.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
He's just gonna have to let land flying, goes to
the right song, steps away from the defenders, gives himself
with time now steps up, fires heads towards the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
By the way, you went to college j Mack near DC,
Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with
a winner? That team is so much fun. That was
our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year. They're
better than we thought they would be. And it's one
of those like usually with hail Mary's, I feel bad
for the losing team. I was overjoyed the Commanders won.
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They outplayed them, they out coached, they outstaffed him. They
outthought them, they out prepared them, and their quarterbacks banged up.
Washington completely deserved to win. That gas the only Hail
Mary I've ever seen and thought no sympathy for the
losing team, because usually it's so gutting and jarring and awful,
and you see the coaching staff melt. It's like, no,
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you guys should have lost eight times? What a Sunday?
What a week? And tonight Game three in New York
two three to two. New York now may have blown
the series in Game one when they pulled Garrett Cole.
I know it's analytics. I don't want to argue with
the steam heads. Don't want to argue. Did not like
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that move. J Max, you have a fun weekend. It
was an outstanding weekend. I'm glad you didn't bring up
a certain green and white pot that's next. No, no, no,
come a week and avoid that. There's so much other
good stuff happening around the sports world. Why do you
need to go there? What Lebron?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Come on, Lebron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I mean, we love the Giants. Tonight like it's just
a great time to be a sports we love the Giants,
speak for yourself.
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
All Right, Colin Wright, Colin wrong? Plenty of both on
a Monday, and here we go where Colin was right.
The Commanders were my preseason pick to be a dark
horse playoff team. I pick everyone. Last year it was
the Rams, this year it was the Commanders. They're number
three in yards per play. I think they have to
make a move, perhaps to shore up the cornerback position
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in the trade deadline. Rising star Listen, I really like
this staff between Kingsbury dan Quinn. They look well coached,
but they've got some issues on the back end. But
this was our dark horse playoff team, and it appears
we got it right. Where Colin was raw the minute,
I'm telling you how great Baltimore is. They lose to Cleveland.
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Now the back end of their defense is beat up,
But I mean, you know, it's interesting. They've lost the
Raiders and the Browns, so maybe this is a team
that you know, can get caught flat footed when they're
heavy favorites. But right now, their pass defense is the
worst in the NFL. I still have how Lamar almost
twice gave him a chance to win throwing it into
the end zone and buy in time. But I was
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wrong on Baltimore this week, where Colin was right bon Nicks.
So I told you Vegas had Denver at five wins.
I said, nope, this is my favorite over bet. They're
already at five. Bon Knicks last five games, ten touchdowns,
one pick. Now, his passer rating isn't great, his completion
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percentage will get better. He's not his gift, that is
Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams. But Denver's a well coached
team and in October, bow Knicks had a one to
zero to two point seven passer rating. Touchdowns are going up,
mistakes are going down. Bon Knicks looks like a franchise
quarterbacks and we thought I and Peyton were the perfect fit.
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Where Colin was raw. I've been trying to I've been
trying to believe the Bengals They're just gonna be okay.
And as great as Joe Burrow is and man I
love watching him play, I mean, they let Jesse Bates
go the safety he's starring in Atlanta. They let Joe
Mixon go. He's starring in Houston. They peeled off people
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before they even paid Jamar Chase. This is an organization
that historically is cheap. Other organizations are called that they are,
and I feel bad for Joe Burrow, it's got in
Indianapolis Andrew Luckfiel. I'm just not sure they're ever gonna
help this kid enough. Where Colin was right, I've been
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saying this. If you go back to Aaron Rodgers last
year in Green Bay, he doesn't want an emotion, he
doesn't move terribly well. He's a pocket guy. I don't
think he's a unifier as a personality. I'm not blaming
all the problems on him. I thought when they fired
Robert Slam, I said, the best coach in your staff.
And they've had three straight bad defensive performances, So you know,
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I just don't buy into this organization. I thought the
solemn move was impulsive and ridiculous. And I don't think
Aaron at forty is the kind of player that can
elevate a decent roster, not a great one. But yesterday
was a low point where Colin was raw. I think
the Lakers are a playing team. Well, so far they're
three and oh and they've beat the Suns, Kings and
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Tea Wolves. And what I like about it is clearly
jj Reddick has a plan usage rate for a D
highest ever usage rate for Lebron, lowest ever. That was
very obvious in Game one. This is the first time
since Phil Jackson's last year that the Lakers, and they've
beaten some good teams have started the season three and
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oh what does it mean long term? Nothing? But what
I like you can see we got a plan here.
You can see what jj Reddick's trying to devise, which
is this is AD's team, Lebron's great lower's used drate
keeps Lebron fresher for a second half like he had
this weekend when you do need him to deliver. Where
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Colin was right, I never bought into the Matt Stafford
trade rumors last week. Why would you let this guy go?
He's brilliant? And then on Thursday night he is just
an incredible talent. Finally got Pooka and Nikoupa back and
Cooper Cup. But I don't see why you would move
off him. It's not a good college quarterback draft class.
There's nobody in the world right now playing college football
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that's close to Matt Stafford. I mean, this happens. The
Rams had cluster injuries in the offensive line and a
wide receiver, and they played good teams. But when they've
been at full strength, going back to last year, they're
seven and three. When they have Pukah and Cooper and
Stafford and Kyron Williams, and their losses to the Lions
in overtime and to the Ravens in overtime, this is
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a really good team. They may not be a super
Bowl team, yet, this is a playoff team and I
think they'll prove it over the next month. Where Colin
was wrong, well, I called Colorado the fake idea of
college football. They're telling you they're one thing they're not really, Well,
I'm wrong. They're officially Bowl eligible, they're running the ball.
How about Warren sapp has turned around that defensive front.
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They have two legitimate Heisman candidates. They are now, they've
beat Cincinnati, not a bad football program. They're four and
one in the Big Twelve, and if you look at
their schedule. I mean, we almost thought Dion was interesting.
We didn't know if he was going to be a
great coach. I gotta be honest with you. Whenever he
has problems, he fixes them quickly, which is a sign
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of a really good coach. Where Colin was right, Well,
I have said for years, spare me all you baseball purists.
Give me stars and big brands. Well, fourteen million viewers,
the highest viewership in seven years. Watch the Yankees and
the Dodgers. There's Hall of Fame level players, two of
the three or four biggest brands in the sport. And
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if you miss Friday's walk off, this has never been
done in World Series history, the first ever walk off
Grand Slam in the sports history in the World Series.
And here it is. Courts has deliveries. Freeman hits the
ball on a.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Right field, says good.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Gibby, mate Friday. GameLine of the World Series. Give me
meet Freddy Joe Davis exquisite in the call good Stuff.
Game three tonight in New York, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let's bring him on. Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports NFL analyst
Mark is gonna give him. He was doing the Chargers yesterday,
which we have staved off the Chargers highlights until the
very last segment. It was really you were good yesterday
in that game was so there.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Was just like a baseball score for a minute.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Though if there was some hit in the next five
to two or four to two, well they don't have it.
They don't have a ton on the perimeter. That's why
I lab note he's emerging. It's so so big, So
I we want I want to talk about the hail
Mary because hassleback that I want to talk. Yeah, now listen,
sometimes they walk and then there are mistakes though, yep, okay,
so as we show the commanders tell me for a
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guy to get behind the defense, there's no box out
guy there.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well, there should be a box out guy there.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Obviously, eber Flus talked about Stevenson's got to be that guy,
and of course we all know what happened with him
not paid attention at the start of the snap, lack
of focus and when that kind of stuff happens. But
one of the biggest things that I saw in this
play is the ability that Jayden Daniels had to have
to buy that much time. I mean, usually you don't
get that much time This is a long throw, so
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I mean barely got it to the goal line. The
biggest thing is make sure it's in the end zone.
Don't throw it out of the back of the end zone.
At least give yourself an opportunity. That's a big one too.
Is I need a body for a body on defense,
you know what I mean? I need guys boxing people out.
Defenders bath the ball down, not up. Offensive players bath
the ball up or go snag it. If you have
a good you know, a good enough path to the football,
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just go grab it and end the game right there. Well,
these are the plays that you practice on Fridays, Saturdays.
You do your last plays, like the final plays of
the game. These are like you run these more than.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
To lose like that is it's tough. There's gonna be
some tough conversations coaching wise. And it's embarrassing. You know,
It's just an embarrassing way to go down when you
won essentially an ugly game on the road NFC opponent,
and to lose like that because the lack of focus
and poor execution on a play that should be just
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automatic ingrained in your brain.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's a tough one to swallow, so.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I'm kind of theorizing. I watched Brock pretty in the
first half. I thought he was off a little bit.
I thought you was, yeah off, miss de Bo, Yeah yeah.
I was like, okay, and I've said Lebron's done this.
When the jumper's not falling. Lebron's like, let me drive,
let me drive the basket. I'll get my confidence back.
Then he goes back out. I thought Brock pretty in
the second half, and I'm just guessing here, but it's like,
I'm gonna use my feet. They're good. And then after
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a couple first downs, I thought he got his confidence back. It.
You know, he's a young player, shill, but it did
feel like at halftime it's almost like Kyle said, use
your feet.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I feel like some of this and I don't know
this for a fact, but like having a former quarterback
like Brian Greasie as your quarterback coach, I had those
tips and reminders, like a tips and reminder sheet, and
we would talk at halftime with Matt Kavanaugh, who played,
steal me two first downs with your legs. Okay, you
know on a third and short, if it's not there
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and it's man to man, go boy, go you're gonna
be fine. You're not the fastest guy. You're not gonna
rip off a fifth the ardor but if we need
three yards, he can get me four. And now we
need five yards, I might only get you four. So
it was one of those things, almost a joke, but
you remind your quarterback of stuff like that at halftime.
And I feel like having somebody like Greasy for Brock
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Purty has really helped his development and kept him even keel.
And he's got that great demeanor and just understands.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, he sees the big picture.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
It feels like all the time, and you know, like
a really good picture when the fastball is a little awe,
for the curve balls not really break in the right way,
or something's a little off.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, I got to find a way to win the
way you mentioned, Lebron.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
I got to get to the basket, you know, I
got to get to the foul line and get in
a rhythm here, sure, just so I can keep us
in this game. I feel like Brock has there's little
games within the game, and he can see the whole
picture as he's playing. That's why I think he's so valuable.
Whether he has all his weapons or not. You saw
what happens, And I mean he knows who his playmakers are.
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He knows to get the ball to tewort skittle on
his own all of the day. I mean, who else
has their own holiday that's crazy and then goes to
balls out on their own like Jesus Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So you know, I was saying this. Usually we have
some proof that offensive coaches off byes, they install something,
and you had Rex Ryan, so I always feel like
defensive coaches, like yesterday Matt Eberfluse off a bye. Their
first seven possessions, that was six punts. I got nothing, McCarthy.
I did think the Cowboys, the inferior roster, gave you
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a little juice in the first half. But I said
this when I watched Jaden and I watch Caleb. Caleb
didn't play well early, but he extended plays. He did
the best he could in the second half. He made
things interesting. Jaden was a little more even, I felt
from beginning to end. But when you come off a bye,
and I watched Chicago struggle and punt and punt, my
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takeaway is, Okay, he's a rookie. They don't want to
heat too much stuff on it. Am I being unrealistic
to think off a bye you can't punt six times
that you gotta have something there? Do they not script plays?
Speaker 7 (25:02):
I mean there's he's ten for twenty four for one
hundred and thirty one yards. Like that's a tough stat line, right,
Get me some completions. Manufacture some completions on some easy
you know, rollouts and sprintouts and stuff. Go back to
the well on that stuff. But the other thing that
a bye week gives you not just installing. I know
what you mean by saying like install and people would
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think that's a new concept.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's a lot of self scout.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
So most teams will have their defense scout their offense
and offense scout their defense as if they were gonna
play okay during the bye week, and so you give
them tendencies. Hey, you know, seventy five percent of the
time when you guys line up in a y y
wing set out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight
ends with the slot receivers, you run this play or
it's you know, outside zone or whatever, or here's a
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tell on this or that. So you usually use after
a bye week, your tendency breakers. You show exactly what
you've shown all year, and you have something off of it,
whether it's a play action off of a run, some
sort of run from a pass, look like whatever you
put in the quarterback draw.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Because you're ninety five percent throw at an empty which everybody,
you know what I mean, you just come up with something.
The Bears just looked, you know that first half especially
just stale slow, you know, looked, looked off their rhythm. Really,
and remember Caleb has had success with those more conservative
game plans. When they went back to back Houston on
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the road and Indianapolis on the road and you had
to throw it almost fifty times a game, we're complaining
that that's probably not the formula.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So he only throws it twenty one times.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
But if you only get a complete ten of those
twenty one, I mean, that's a tough way to play.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So look at the look at the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
I mean they hung half one hundred or fifty two
points on somebody, and Jared Goff didn't even throw for
one hundred yards. He threw for like eighty four yards
fifteen passes. So if that's going to be your formula.
Then you got to run the ball right. You got
to get me, steal me some completions when he can.
I think he was twelve or fifteen. So for Caleb,
it's like, we got to steal some of those completions
early in game. Get off to a faster start. Give
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me three points on our opening drive. Something to get
the juice going on offense.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Speaking of Detroit, you had a pretty good offensive line
when you broke into the NFL. I was saying it,
golf is good to begin with. It's like he's on
a recliner. I mean he's I mean, I mean he's
literally maybe well, I mean Mark, he's he's throwing on
second four a lot. Take me through that. Take go
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to your best offensive line. I think sometimes fans don't
realize the difference between throwing on second and eight and
second four.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It's oh, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The linebackers are I mean take us through because.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I mean defenses want to get you in second and seven,
second and eight plus right, that's like their goal and
they feel like they're ahead. Think of like a pitcher
and a batter, Right, you want to get the first strike.
Batter wants you to throw a ball like boom, okay,
now you're ahead. Well that gets you into third and manageable.
And when you have a team that can run the
ball like this, I mean the offensive line we had
in New York my rookie year. We're like top four
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in NFL. His of like rushing with Bill Callahan our
offensive court, offensive line coach, Shoddy our offense coordinator. But
you know, from left to right, it was the britishaw Ferguson,
Alan Fanica, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, and then Damian Woodie,
who had won a Super Bowl as a center for
Tom Brady in New England. Like these were five blocks
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of granted. And then Wayne Hunter was our swing tackle
who was a stud in his own right. So we
went jumbo with Tony Richardson, and I mean, I'm going
like a Glory Days Q of Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Sorry, but with Tony.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Richardson, who was a thousand yard rusher in his own
right in Kansas City. Then came over played fullback for
Thomas Jones, who's our running back? Like are you kidding me?
So on third and six we could run power with
the fullback on the field and still get a first down.
So especially to overcome some of my rookie mistakes. Yeah, well,
the second year when we had most of those pieces
back and you start to understand protections and what we're
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doing in protection and what the running backs responsibility is
and how to pick up blitzes and all that. These
guys would just handle it and you get to play free.
Those are some of my favorite moments because you just
get to go. It's like seven on seven. Hey, mangal,
it's going to take care of me.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
We're good.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Just tell me the mike point. All right, we got it, Like,
let's roll. And when you have an offensive line like that,
it makes your life as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So much easier.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Yet, how good they were early, I don't think I
appreciated it until we didn't have it as much as
I should have. I appreciated it, But once you start
getting hit all the time and you're like, man, we're
at second and ten a lot like what happened to
our run game?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know, guys get injured, guys go down. You're like, whoa,
we had it pretty damn good. This was nice. So
it's uh.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
I think Jared Goff has seen both sides. Remember his
rookie year, he got knocked around real good. First year
in Detroit, wasn't oh exactly right. I mean that was
a rebuild. He's been a part of two rebuilds. Think
about that. One of them took him to a super Bowl.
And this team, you know, lost in the playoffs last year,
but this is a team that's going to go far.
They're a problem. And two rebuilds for quarterback and he's
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gonna potentially go to two super bowl I mean that's
that's incredible in his own right.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
But he also knows what he has and place of
that strength.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I like that, you admit that because you're that
old line was great when you come in as a rookie.
You'r usc lone. I mean, you're sick and I only
have good old line.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
There's literally clips in Oakland I can distinctly remember. And
we go through a double cadence and I just completely
zoned out, and I go, Nick, what do you like?
Because we're either running right or left and I'm looking
at it like eh, I can't really decide, And you
see Nick go like this, raise his right hand and
so we run the play to the right. Literally a
twenty hour touchdown. I'm high five, and all the coaches
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after they're like, great check, Sanchez, great check.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm like, thanks, thanks, guys. It was all Nicky.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Uh back with more. He's got video, good stuff on
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
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Speaker 1 (30:52):
All right, welcome back. Mark Sanchez, who did the Chargers
game of the Saints yesterday, and Justin Herbert. We were
talking during the break if I was the jet side
move off of Corn. You need to get some accumulate
some draft picks. The Chiefs have already made a move
today to get a Patriot. You understand, Jacksonville's got a corner.
A lot of people could like that could work for
a couple of teams. I think the Chargers are good enough.
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I think they could be a wild card teamed. Although
Denver's been surprised.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I know, I know it's gonna be a tight race
with those two.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Although Denver scheduled toughens a little. But the Chargers to me,
and I'll let you take it away, Mark, feel like
they need something on the perimeter.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
It would yeah, definitely help there, okay their cause and
help justin Herbert. But I think when you talk about
this team, you got to understand their makeup. And Jim Harbaugh,
he's obviously an a centric guy. He's a little quirky.
He's you know, he said last week in his press conference,
you know the worm has turned and like we're out
of our rut and here we come. You know, he's
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got these great sayings and all those things, but he
wants to be a hard nosed, downhill, run the ball team.
Stingy defense, which jesse mentor their defensive coordinator, has implemented.
Their one of the top scoring defenses, if not the
top scoring d defense in the league. Tough to get
points on him. They're great in the red zone. They
had six sacks yesterday against the Saints. And this is
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a team heading in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I think.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yeah, And the story of this game when you get
to this part of the season is players making plays.
The Johnny's and Joe's, not just the ex'es and o's.
And these two clips are so indicative of a Harbaugh team.
And he always has competitors welcome, right. He's got guys
like Scott Mattlock. Guys you've never heard of that play
d tackle that play full back that had a sack
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yesterday and a catch for nine yards. This guy, Mattlock
forty four. When he's in the game, it's seventy five
percent run. He has guys like that. Ladd McConkey, former
walk on at Georgia becomes a legend down in Athens
between the hedges because he's a baller, right, Those kind
of guys make plays. So watch Lad McConkey on this
first play. When we roll this clip, you see it's
Manda man across the board. Tight ball game nine to
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five Chargers are you know, both teams are kind of
going back and forth, trading blows and nobody knows what's
going on. Well, Mattlock, this is like a rerun of
the old Mattlock. I know they rebooted it with Kathy Bates,
but I'm talking Andy Griffith, old school Mattlock, right, and
this guy's going to solve the case. He's going to
understand what you need to do. Same thing with Lad McConkey.
This guy's in the slot. He understands it's man and
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man across the board. He knows he's going to have
to win a one on one matchup they show run.
Based on their formation and Mattlock being in the game,
it's almost seventy five percent chance that it's going to
be a run. So what does Greg Roman do. He
breaks the tendency after a bye week and shows, hey,
let's show him a little sugar on this fake to
the running back and cross up these linebackers. Watch what
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it does to the linebackers. One of them has to
cover Mattlock, one of them has to cover JK. Dobbins,
and these linebackers get crossed up. It opens up the
middle of the field where they want to go with
the football to Simmy Fajoku, one of their receivers, and
look what it does. Boom, there go the backers, There
goes the cross action. Herbert has to get rid of
this ball because Colin Saunders is right on. They have
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plenty of protection, but Colin Saunders somehow.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Slips through this gap. There's nobody open.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
There is nowhere to throw this football, and there's a
dude in his face about to level Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And what does he do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
He just throws up a jump ball, a one on one,
fifty to fifty ball. And the thing that's most important
is lad McConkey. He gives his quarterback room. He's completely
covered by a Lante Taylor. This is great coverage by
Lnton Taylor. He did nothing wrong here, but Laddi McConkey
just went up and competed for the ball, got it,
and then Josh Palmer has to make a block for
him later because he slipped on his own route. I mean,
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one of their guys that they expected to potentially be
their playmaker. After Keenan Allen goes, Eckler's gone, Mike Williams
is gone.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
This guy's got to step up. Josh Palmer.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
He falls down and you're throwing to a rookie former
walk on from Georgia with a fullback who also plays
defensive tackle blocking for the quarterback, and you still get
pressure in your face.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So the play was completely dead. The Saints had him.
They shouldn't have made that play.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
It was one guy making him play, not beating a scheme, right,
and we're gonna see that same theme on this next
red zone play. Now they get down to the red zone.
Will Disley was a defensive tackle for two years at
the University of Washington, Okay. He last week had eleven
targets and eight catches. Yesterday had six or so catches
or whatever it was. But he's number one in your progression.
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I mean, no offense to Will Disley. But that's just
usually not that. He's not George Plittle.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's not I know.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
So I'm saying, this is what Justin Herbert's working with.
Then he's got Dobbins on the halfback Texas route or
the angle route. Your feet have to be set to
throw that thing. He immediately hops to the right. He
knows this play is dead. There's what does Jim Harbaugh say,
Who's got it better than us? Nobody? Who's open on
this play? Nobody? There is nothing here for Justin Herbert.
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I mean, if he wanted to maybe fire that thing
to Dobbins, maybe, But he goes and becomes superman. I mean,
look at that logo.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
What is that logo?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
He needs a hoop on the fifteen yard line right there,
and he's Jordan dunking from the free throw line. Man,
like this, you can't even see McConkey. You can't even
see it. Google A Mahdi has completely covered him.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And Lod mccaukay. He just throws it to his guy.
He's been the most consistent receiver for this offense.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Because of two abilities, availability and his reliability. This guy
is dependable, man, and he just shows up at the
right time. But those are two crucial plays for the Chargers.
That was the game right there to those points were
the game, and that is not you know, those aren't
scripted for success. Right there, those players are dead.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So that's why I think, Mark to your point, they
need help.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
They could use a playmaker, somebody that can really elevate,
that can really separate in man to man. I mean
there were no separators right we saw the Manda Man clip.
There's nobody just running free. And I understand it's the NFL.
These guys aren't gonna be wide open, but come on, man,
I mean, Jessin Herbert needs a little help. And this
is such a shift from their identity. I mean, think
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about the Chargers as an organization. Dan Fouts throw it
all around the yard. Philip Rivers throw it all around
the yard. The first four years of Herbert's career, he's
got over eighteen thousand passing yards. I mean, this guy
can sling the rock now, but we're gonna run it
fifty times a game now, So he's adjusting to it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I think there, how many times have I done that?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
This?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Mike? This part? Mike? Sorry? But how many times are
are they gonna?
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You know? Or how difficult? Rather is this transition for
Justin Herbert. It's just a complete shift in identity. And
he's mentioned it a couple times in their press conference
of what this team is.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm gonna this just came down.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh oh, so breaking news.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, Anthony Richardson struggled. He's young, he only played thirteen
college games, but he pulled himself out yesterday and when
asked why, he said, I was tired. Soe. Shane Stiken's
a terrific coach. He used to be a Chargers on
the Charger staff. Shane Steiken went asked if Anthony Richardson
will start on Sunday at Minnesota. Quote, we're evaluating everything.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Oh boy, Yeah, that's not great.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And by the way he runs so much. I get
that he's tired, but I don't think I would admitted that.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I would have said, yeah, I think Miami's tight. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I wouldn't have said I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, the good thing is, you know Flacco's there isn't
that great? This guy. Just how was fla He used
to figure it out, Man, give me a and I
love it.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
I remember sitting at a Jets practice in the off
season when he was backing up Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He was the veteran presence for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
I want to say rookie year second or whatever, but
I just remember sitting in there, eating lunch with him
and talking through career and highs and lows, and we
have this great conversation. I just said, how many more
you got left? He goes, oh, Man, you know me,
I'm a lifer. They got to drag me out of
this place, like they got to tell me I'm done,
because I'm never done, Like I'm going.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
To ride this thing till the wheels fall off. And
I loved that answer from him.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
And I got to do a sit down interview with
him last year when he was with the Browns, and
I just really appreciate how his family supports him.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He's like just a solid guy and.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
They know he's on this incredible journey and he's still
got plenty of gas in the tank.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So if I'm a Colts fan, I'm not too worried.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, he was always a big body with a big, huge.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Guy, just the mountain of a man and big arm,
big time arm. So I love watching it. I love
watching it. You can just tell he sees the big picture.
He's having a blast, and you know he's having as
much fun as you can have playing the position, almost
like a rookie or like a kid playing out in
the street. But he knows so much, you know, because
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he's long in the tooth. He's been around so long.
I mean, this guy is He's a class act.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, and I actually think Indy's got a lot of pieces.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean, the kid who made the catch yesterday it
was down at the one, the smaller receiver. I'm what
is it again?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Greg?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Down, Josh down down? And Pittman Jonathan Taylor never goes
down with the first hit.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I know he's great back. I love Pittman, so do I.
They have some pieces.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, all right, great stuff from you today, Mark Sanchez,
Matt Hasselbeck, both stop by. It's the Steelers tonight and
the Giants. I'm gonna watch it in the corner TV.
It's the Dodgers and the Yankees. The Dodgers are cobbling
together a starting pitching staff Walker Buehler goes tonight, I
know you grew up in southern California. Were you Angels
or Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
That's a tough one. But how much time do we have?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Twelve seconds?
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Well, my grandpa used to live at Chavezervine. Then they
put the stadium there, so that was a tough sell
with the Dodgers. But you know, I'm an LA guy
and Orange County guy, so we'll lean in tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go to Monday. We are ready to rock
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Another joyous weekend starting Friday night with the World Series.
Dodgers have a two O League Game three tonight in
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New York. We'll talk about that later. Jmac Dallas Cowboy
was It may be it may be time to rebuild,
like now maybe Wow, what a disaster they are? What
a disaster? Well stop me if you've heard this before.
(01:10):
The Cowboys got beat handily by San Francisco and Dak
had several interceptions. Brock Perty alone rushed for more yards
than the Dallas Cowboys. They are a poorly constructed football operation,
their defense. Only the Carolina Panthers have a worse defense
in the NFL. Hey, but Dak got the bag again.
(01:34):
Good luck with that. I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately
have to consider being sellers at the deadline. Their schedule
gets even harder. It's time for a rebuild. They do
nothing well a rebuild starting with a kicker. I like him.
He didn't even show up. He had jury duty. He's
still good, like the kicker. But this is a really
(01:55):
bad football team. And the next four games are against
the Falcons and the Eagles and the Texans and the Commanders,
and all of those teams won yesterday, and all those
teams now are playing really good football. So you think, oh,
we got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd
argue right now, the Commanders are playing better than the Niners.
(02:15):
The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean the Texans. Say
what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy,
they're really good. In Atlanta, they're gonna win their division.
I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three
and four. San Francisco was down like four or five
high end starters. They were on their third running back,
they're on their third kicker, and then Deebo Samuel gets
(02:37):
hurt during the game. Brock Purtty didn't play well and
they still rushed for two hundred and twenty three yards.
They still did it. I mean they're down multiple players.
Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon, Greg Jenny, Joan Jennings coming
back soon. They're getting guys pack So off of by
Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half,
(02:57):
but then they went to the second half and the
Cowboys first three second half drives. Listen to this pick
three and out, three and out and the Niners, with
the better coach making adjustments their first three possessions in
the second half touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. They out gained the
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Cowboys just in the third quarter almost ten to one.
So and this is off of buy this is when
you're arrested. Yeah, Micah Parsons wasn't there, I mean, how
many Christian McCaffrey wasn't there for the other guy. So,
you know the old saying, if you fool me once,
shame on you. If you fool me twice, shame on me.
(03:44):
If you fool all of us, for like twenty nine years.
What does that translate to the Mike McCarthy Cowboys look
now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the
way Philip Cowboys, that look like the Chan Gaily Cowboys.
I mean, outside of Boeing, has any major brand fallen
(04:08):
harder and faster in the last twelve months than the
Dallas Cowboys. I just don't get it. The schedule is
getting tougher. DAK against the better teams can't play. I
think you have to sell it. I think you have
to keep the kicker, keep Ceedee Lamb. I guess you
keep DAK and just move parts. Trade deadline's coming up.
A lot of people would go for Micah Parsons. A
lot of people would DeMarcus Lawrence one of the corners.
(04:30):
Maybe you're tied in, you're a mile away from Detroit,
you're a I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster
is stacked. San Francisco is better than you, and they're
not healthy yet. Kansas City's and Buffalo's and Baltimore's and Houston's,
and I mean the Chargers looked good yesterday. I mean,
this roster is not top ten. I'm not sure if
it's top fifteen in the league. I think you gotta
(04:53):
sell it. And I mean, you're stuck with Dak, and
you know Dak against the Niners, you get interceptions, that's
what you get. And here's here's the quarterback after.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Not turn the ball over.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Period. As I said, I don't have to be perfect,
but I damn sure can't be having the turnovers.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Frustrated myself that my play.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I imagine the rest of the guys are not getting
to win two now two in a row, sitting at
three and four. But but I can definitely tell you
that that nobody's shaken or giving up. Frustration is very high.
But but it's a long.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Season, no it, and it keeps getting longer the more
they play. That's when you know you're in trouble when
a long season tappening to the Jets feels longer after
every game is over. I mean, the Niners were off
a tough, physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City.
The Cowboys had to buy so this was a perfect
(05:53):
opportunity to finally knock out San Francisco, and that third
quarter it was a coaching miss man, a run game mismatch,
a quarterback mismatch. I think you tear it down and
rebuild it. It's painful. Cowboy fans are loyal, but this
doesn't work, and this isn't close, and here come the
Commanders and the Eagles and the Texans and the Falcons.
(06:14):
You could, I mean, you could lose all of those games. Okay,
so yesterday, I mean, I'm not somebody that you know says,
you know, this coach needs to be fired or get
rid of this staff. I'll make an exception. Today, multiple
people probably need to lose their job. That coach the
Chicago Bears. They lost to Washington, and they deserve to
(06:35):
lose to Washington. That was not luck with a hail Mary. Okay,
maybe it was luck. But what I saw in the
second half may have been the worst coaching I have
seen by an NFL team over the course of a
half in years. I mean, Number one, handing the ball
to a backup center. You've got good running backs, you've
got good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers. Handing
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the ball to a backup center. That was your best
drive of the day to that point. You'd had one
big run, but that was the best drive of the
day to that point, and that's your play off a bye.
That's the play, that's your clever play.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
That is just.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
That's non negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina.
You've got players, in fact, you've spent money on the
offensive side, multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back,
a capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback. That can't
be it off a bye. Secondly, on the hail Mary,
you got one of your defensive players, John with Fans
(07:36):
as the ball and the ball's in play, he's just
Jawn with Fans. I mean there's also the fact that
you have a linebacker on that play spying on Jaden
Daniels instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going
to peel off a fifty two yard touchdown run. What
are you doing? I mean, this is just coming off
a bye. Chicago's first seven possessions coming off a bye,
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six punts and a turnover on downs. What is going on?
Why do you use that extra work to hand the
ball off to a backup center and not be prepared
on a hail Mary? I mean, Caleb Williams was bad
in the first half, better than the second, but didn't
play well. What you saw yesterday is two young, ascending
teams and two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you
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don't feel this way this morning. Jayden Daniels, that's gonna work.
He's got a support system, Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, dan Quinn
new owner. It kind of feels like it's not only
gonna work, it's working. Now forget the hail Mary. They
outplayed Chicago. Caleb is starting to feel a lot like
Andrew Locke, where you're like, you may need to clean
(08:43):
house because this kid's gonna get hurt. But that is
just unforgivable nonsense. Yesterday, I you know, I'm I never
see anything like it, And I'm not somebody who stands
up here and says fire this fire, that fire. I
usually defer. I mean I defend a Harball for years
at Michigan when you wanted him out, or a Brian
(09:05):
Kelly at Notre Dame, or a Lincoln Riley, or I
tend to be a sark after a bad loss. I
tend to be like, you know, it's hard that stuff
off a by it was a it was here's the
airth thing. Listen. After they're defending the handoff and defending
everything about that.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Obviously, the guys were disappointed. When you lose a game
like that, you know, that's a tough one to swallow.
And we've practiced that play one hundred times since we've
been here, and again, I'll have to look at what
the execution was of that. But we have a body
on a body boxing guys out again. I got to
look at it and detail it out and make sure
we're better next time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said,
we practiced that thing one hundred times on like the
thirty eighth time you practiced it, did not somebody on
the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's
a back. We got really good running backs. Can we
just scrap this like it's not gonna work. I mean,
(10:08):
here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for
a touchdown. You don't get any extra points if you
use a backup center then one of your running backs.
And by the way, if I was a star running
back for the Bears and I worked so hard being
a running back, can't you give me the one yard
touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it,
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Hail Mary looked disorganized that I could go on and
on about their you know, fade pattern in the end zone,
which is like a three percent call. Nothing about Chicago
in the second half is endaring, none of it. I mean,
move off? Who you got to move off? But that's
(10:52):
a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck. One of my
favorite things is when you go to the local radio
team on a crazy win. So if you haven't heard it,
this is the Commander's radio broadcast team after the hail
Mary works for me. With the goal on they break three,
Davie's backing up.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
He's just gonna have to let land flying, goes to
the right song, steps away from the defenders, gives himself
with time now steps up, fires heads towards the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
By the way, you went to college j Mack near DC,
Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with
a winner? That team is so much fun. That was
our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year. They're
better than we thought they would be. And it's one
of those like usually with hail Mary's, I feel bad
for the losing team. I was overjoyed the Commanders won.
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They outplayed them, they out coached, they outstaffed him. They
outthought them, they out prepared them, and their quarterbacks banged up.
Washington completely deserved to win. That gas the only Hail
Mary I've ever seen and thought no sympathy for the
losing team, because usually it's so gutting and jarring and awful,
and you see the coaching staff melt. It's like, no,
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you guys should have lost eight times? What a Sunday?
What a week? And tonight Game three in New York
two three to two. New York now may have blown
the series in Game one when they pulled Garrett Cole.
I know it's analytics. I don't want to argue with
the steam heads. Don't want to argue. Did not like
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that move. J Max, you have a fun weekend. It
was an outstanding weekend. I'm glad you didn't bring up
a certain green and white pot that's next. No, no, no,
come a week and avoid that. There's so much other
good stuff happening around the sports world. Why do you
need to go there? What Lebron?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Come on, Lebron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I mean, we love the Giants. Tonight like it's just
a great time to be a sports we love the Giants,
speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
All Right, Colin Wright, Colin wrong? Plenty of both on
a Monday, and here we go where Colin was right.
The Commanders were my preseason pick to be a dark
horse playoff team. I pick everyone. Last year it was
the Rams, this year it was the Commanders. They're number
three in yards per play. I think they have to
make a move, perhaps to shore up the cornerback position
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in the trade deadline. Rising star Listen, I really like
this staff between Kingsbury dan Quinn. They look well coached,
but they've got some issues on the back end. But
this was our dark horse playoff team, and it appears
we got it right. Where Colin was raw the minute,
I'm telling you how great Baltimore is. They lose to Cleveland.
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Now the back end of their defense is beat up,
But I mean, you know, it's interesting. They've lost the
Raiders and the Browns, so maybe this is a team
that you know, can get caught flat footed when they're
heavy favorites. But right now, their pass defense is the
worst in the NFL. I still have how Lamar almost
twice gave him a chance to win throwing it into
the end zone and buy in time. But I was
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wrong on Baltimore this week, where Colin was right bon Nicks.
So I told you Vegas had Denver at five wins.
I said, nope, this is my favorite over bet. They're
already at five. Bon Knicks last five games, ten touchdowns,
one pick. Now, his passer rating isn't great, his completion
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percentage will get better. He's not his gift, that is
Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams. But Denver's a well coached
team and in October, bow Knicks had a one to
zero to two point seven passer rating. Touchdowns are going up,
mistakes are going down. Bon Knicks looks like a franchise
quarterbacks and we thought I and Peyton were the perfect fit.
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Where Colin was raw. I've been trying to I've been
trying to believe the Bengals They're just gonna be okay.
And as great as Joe Burrow is and man I
love watching him play, I mean, they let Jesse Bates
go the safety he's starring in Atlanta. They let Joe
Mixon go. He's starring in Houston. They peeled off people
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before they even paid Jamar Chase. This is an organization
that historically is cheap. Other organizations are called that they are,
and I feel bad for Joe Burrow, it's got in
Indianapolis Andrew Luckfiel. I'm just not sure they're ever gonna
help this kid enough. Where Colin was right, I've been
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saying this. If you go back to Aaron Rodgers last
year in Green Bay, he doesn't want an emotion, he
doesn't move terribly well. He's a pocket guy. I don't
think he's a unifier as a personality. I'm not blaming
all the problems on him. I thought when they fired
Robert Slam, I said, the best coach in your staff.
And they've had three straight bad defensive performances, So you know,
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I just don't buy into this organization. I thought the
solemn move was impulsive and ridiculous. And I don't think
Aaron at forty is the kind of player that can
elevate a decent roster, not a great one. But yesterday
was a low point where Colin was raw. I think
the Lakers are a playing team. Well, so far they're
three and oh and they've beat the Suns, Kings and
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Tea Wolves. And what I like about it is clearly
jj Reddick has a plan usage rate for a D
highest ever usage rate for Lebron, lowest ever. That was
very obvious in Game one. This is the first time
since Phil Jackson's last year that the Lakers, and they've
beaten some good teams have started the season three and
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oh what does it mean long term? Nothing? But what
I like you can see we got a plan here.
You can see what jj Reddick's trying to devise, which
is this is AD's team, Lebron's great lower's used drate
keeps Lebron fresher for a second half like he had
this weekend when you do need him to deliver. Where
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Colin was right, I never bought into the Matt Stafford
trade rumors last week. Why would you let this guy go?
He's brilliant? And then on Thursday night he is just
an incredible talent. Finally got Pooka and Nikoupa back and
Cooper Cup. But I don't see why you would move
off him. It's not a good college quarterback draft class.
There's nobody in the world right now playing college football
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that's close to Matt Stafford. I mean, this happens. The
Rams had cluster injuries in the offensive line and a
wide receiver, and they played good teams. But when they've
been at full strength, going back to last year, they're
seven and three. When they have Pukah and Cooper and
Stafford and Kyron Williams, and their losses to the Lions
in overtime and to the Ravens in overtime, this is
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a really good team. They may not be a super
Bowl team, yet, this is a playoff team and I
think they'll prove it over the next month. Where Colin
was wrong, well, I called Colorado the fake idea of
college football. They're telling you they're one thing they're not really, Well,
I'm wrong. They're officially Bowl eligible, they're running the ball.
How about Warren sapp has turned around that defensive front.
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They have two legitimate Heisman candidates. They are now, they've
beat Cincinnati, not a bad football program. They're four and
one in the Big Twelve, and if you look at
their schedule. I mean, we almost thought Dion was interesting.
We didn't know if he was going to be a
great coach. I gotta be honest with you. Whenever he
has problems, he fixes them quickly, which is a sign
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of a really good coach. Where Colin was right, Well,
I have said for years, spare me all you baseball purists.
Give me stars and big brands. Well, fourteen million viewers,
the highest viewership in seven years. Watch the Yankees and
the Dodgers. There's Hall of Fame level players, two of
the three or four biggest brands in the sport. And
(18:59):
if you miss Friday's walk off, this has never been
done in World Series history, the first ever walk off
Grand Slam in the sports history in the World Series.
And here it is. Courts has deliveries. Freeman hits the
ball on a.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Right field, says good.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Gibby, mate Friday. GameLine of the World Series. Give me
meet Freddy Joe Davis exquisite in the call good Stuff.
Game three tonight in New York, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
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Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let's bring him on. Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports NFL analyst
Mark is gonna give him. He was doing the Chargers yesterday,
which we have staved off the Chargers highlights until the
very last segment. It was really you were good yesterday
in that game was so there.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Was just like a baseball score for a minute.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Though if there was some hit in the next five
to two or four to two, well they don't have it.
They don't have a ton on the perimeter. That's why
I lab note he's emerging. It's so so big, So
I we want I want to talk about the hail
Mary because hassleback that I want to talk. Yeah, now listen,
sometimes they walk and then there are mistakes though, yep, okay,
so as we show the commanders tell me for a
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guy to get behind the defense, there's no box out
guy there.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Well, there should be a box out guy there.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Obviously, eber Flus talked about Stevenson's got to be that guy,
and of course we all know what happened with him
not paid attention at the start of the snap, lack
of focus and when that kind of stuff happens. But
one of the biggest things that I saw in this
play is the ability that Jayden Daniels had to have
to buy that much time. I mean, usually you don't
get that much time This is a long throw, so
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I mean barely got it to the goal line. The
biggest thing is make sure it's in the end zone.
Don't throw it out of the back of the end zone.
At least give yourself an opportunity. That's a big one too.
Is I need a body for a body on defense,
you know what I mean? I need guys boxing people out.
Defenders bath the ball down, not up. Offensive players bath
the ball up or go snag it. If you have
a good you know, a good enough path to the football,
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just go grab it and end the game right there. Well,
these are the plays that you practice on Fridays, Saturdays.
You do your last plays, like the final plays of
the game. These are like you run these more than.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I mean.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
To lose like that is it's tough. There's gonna be
some tough conversations coaching wise. And it's embarrassing. You know,
It's just an embarrassing way to go down when you
won essentially an ugly game on the road NFC opponent,
and to lose like that because the lack of focus
and poor execution on a play that should be just
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automatic ingrained in your brain.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's a tough one to swallow, so.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I'm kind of theorizing. I watched Brock pretty in the
first half. I thought he was off a little bit.
I thought you was, yeah off, miss de Bo, Yeah yeah.
I was like, okay, and I've said Lebron's done this.
When the jumper's not falling. Lebron's like, let me drive,
let me drive the basket. I'll get my confidence back.
Then he goes back out. I thought Brock pretty in
the second half, and I'm just guessing here, but it's like,
I'm gonna use my feet. They're good. And then after
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a couple first downs, I thought he got his confidence back. It.
You know, he's a young player, shill, but it did
feel like at halftime it's almost like Kyle said, use
your feet.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I feel like some of this and I don't know
this for a fact, but like having a former quarterback
like Brian Greasie as your quarterback coach, I had those
tips and reminders, like a tips and reminder sheet, and
we would talk at halftime with Matt Kavanaugh, who played,
steal me two first downs with your legs. Okay, you
know on a third and short, if it's not there
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and it's man to man, go boy, go you're gonna
be fine. You're not the fastest guy. You're not gonna
rip off a fifth the ardor but if we need
three yards, he can get me four. And now we
need five yards, I might only get you four. So
it was one of those things, almost a joke, but
you remind your quarterback of stuff like that at halftime.
And I feel like having somebody like Greasy for Brock
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Purty has really helped his development and kept him even keel.
And he's got that great demeanor and just understands.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah, he sees the big picture.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
It feels like all the time, and you know, like
a really good picture when the fastball is a little awe,
for the curve balls not really break in the right way,
or something's a little off.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Okay, I got to find a way to win the
way you mentioned, Lebron.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
I got to get to the basket, you know, I
got to get to the foul line and get in
a rhythm here, sure, just so I can keep us
in this game. I feel like Brock has there's little
games within the game, and he can see the whole
picture as he's playing. That's why I think he's so valuable.
Whether he has all his weapons or not. You saw
what happens, And I mean he knows who his playmakers are.
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He knows to get the ball to tewort skittle on
his own all of the day. I mean, who else
has their own holiday that's crazy and then goes to
balls out on their own like Jesus Santa Claus.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Like that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
So you know, I was saying this. Usually we have
some proof that offensive coaches off byes, they install something,
and you had Rex Ryan, so I always feel like
defensive coaches, like yesterday Matt Eberfluse off a bye. Their
first seven possessions, that was six punts. I got nothing, McCarthy.
I did think the Cowboys, the inferior roster, gave you
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a little juice in the first half. But I said
this when I watched Jaden and I watch Caleb. Caleb
didn't play well early, but he extended plays. He did
the best he could in the second half. He made
things interesting. Jaden was a little more even, I felt
from beginning to end. But when you come off a bye,
and I watched Chicago struggle and punt and punt, my
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takeaway is, Okay, he's a rookie. They don't want to
heat too much stuff on it. Am I being unrealistic
to think off a bye you can't punt six times
that you gotta have something there? Do they not script plays?
Speaker 7 (25:02):
I mean there's he's ten for twenty four for one
hundred and thirty one yards. Like that's a tough stat line, right,
Get me some completions. Manufacture some completions on some easy
you know, rollouts and sprintouts and stuff. Go back to
the well on that stuff. But the other thing that
a bye week gives you not just installing. I know
what you mean by saying like install and people would
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think that's a new concept.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's a lot of self scout.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
So most teams will have their defense scout their offense
and offense scout their defense as if they were gonna
play okay during the bye week, and so you give
them tendencies. Hey, you know, seventy five percent of the
time when you guys line up in a y y
wing set out of twelve personnel, one back, two tight
ends with the slot receivers, you run this play or
it's you know, outside zone or whatever, or here's a
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tell on this or that. So you usually use after
a bye week, your tendency breakers. You show exactly what
you've shown all year, and you have something off of it,
whether it's a play action off of a run, some
sort of run from a pass, look like whatever you
put in the quarterback draw.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Because you're ninety five percent throw at an empty which everybody,
you know what I mean, you just come up with something.
The Bears just looked, you know that first half especially
just stale slow, you know, looked, looked off their rhythm. Really,
and remember Caleb has had success with those more conservative
game plans. When they went back to back Houston on
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the road and Indianapolis on the road and you had
to throw it almost fifty times a game, we're complaining
that that's probably not the formula.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
So he only throws it twenty one times.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
But if you only get a complete ten of those
twenty one, I mean, that's a tough way to play.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So look at the look at the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
I mean they hung half one hundred or fifty two
points on somebody, and Jared Goff didn't even throw for
one hundred yards. He threw for like eighty four yards
fifteen passes. So if that's going to be your formula.
Then you got to run the ball right. You got
to get me, steal me some completions when he can.
I think he was twelve or fifteen. So for Caleb,
it's like, we got to steal some of those completions
early in game. Get off to a faster start. Give
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me three points on our opening drive. Something to get
the juice going on offense.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Speaking of Detroit, you had a pretty good offensive line
when you broke into the NFL. I was saying it,
golf is good to begin with. It's like he's on
a recliner. I mean he's I mean, I mean he's
literally maybe well, I mean Mark, he's he's throwing on
second four a lot. Take me through that. Take go
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to your best offensive line. I think sometimes fans don't
realize the difference between throwing on second and eight and
second four.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
It's oh, it's huge.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
The linebackers are I mean take us through because.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
I mean defenses want to get you in second and seven,
second and eight plus right, that's like their goal and
they feel like they're ahead. Think of like a pitcher
and a batter, Right, you want to get the first strike.
Batter wants you to throw a ball like boom, okay,
now you're ahead. Well that gets you into third and manageable.
And when you have a team that can run the
ball like this, I mean the offensive line we had
in New York my rookie year. We're like top four
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in NFL. His of like rushing with Bill Callahan our
offensive court, offensive line coach, Shoddy our offense coordinator. But
you know, from left to right, it was the britishaw Ferguson,
Alan Fanica, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, and then Damian Woodie,
who had won a Super Bowl as a center for
Tom Brady in New England. Like these were five blocks
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of granted. And then Wayne Hunter was our swing tackle
who was a stud in his own right. So we
went jumbo with Tony Richardson, and I mean, I'm going
like a Glory Days Q of Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Sorry, but with Tony.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Richardson, who was a thousand yard rusher in his own
right in Kansas City. Then came over played fullback for
Thomas Jones, who's our running back? Like are you kidding me?
So on third and six we could run power with
the fullback on the field and still get a first down.
So especially to overcome some of my rookie mistakes. Yeah, well,
the second year when we had most of those pieces
back and you start to understand protections and what we're
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doing in protection and what the running backs responsibility is
and how to pick up blitzes and all that. These
guys would just handle it and you get to play free.
Those are some of my favorite moments because you just
get to go. It's like seven on seven. Hey, mangal,
it's going to take care of me.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
We're good.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
Just tell me the mike point. All right, we got it, Like,
let's roll. And when you have an offensive line like that,
it makes your life as a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
So much easier.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Yet, how good they were early, I don't think I
appreciated it until we didn't have it as much as
I should have. I appreciated it, But once you start
getting hit all the time and you're like, man, we're
at second and ten a lot like what happened to
our run game?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know, guys get injured, guys go down. You're like, whoa,
we had it pretty damn good. This was nice. So
it's uh.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
I think Jared Goff has seen both sides. Remember his
rookie year, he got knocked around real good. First year
in Detroit, wasn't oh exactly right. I mean that was
a rebuild. He's been a part of two rebuilds. Think
about that. One of them took him to a super Bowl.
And this team, you know, lost in the playoffs last year,
but this is a team that's going to go far.
They're a problem. And two rebuilds for quarterback and he's
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gonna potentially go to two super bowl I mean that's
that's incredible in his own right.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
But he also knows what he has and place of
that strength.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I like that, you admit that because you're that
old line was great when you come in as a rookie.
You'r usc lone. I mean, you're sick and I only
have good old line.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
There's literally clips in Oakland I can distinctly remember. And
we go through a double cadence and I just completely
zoned out, and I go, Nick, what do you like?
Because we're either running right or left and I'm looking
at it like eh, I can't really decide, And you
see Nick go like this, raise his right hand and
so we run the play to the right. Literally a
twenty hour touchdown. I'm high five, and all the coaches
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after they're like, great check, Sanchez, great check.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm like, thanks, thanks, guys. It was all Nicky.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Uh back with more. He's got video, good stuff on
Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
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Speaker 1 (30:52):
All right, welcome back. Mark Sanchez, who did the Chargers
game of the Saints yesterday, and Justin Herbert. We were
talking during the break if I was the jet side
move off of Corn. You need to get some accumulate
some draft picks. The Chiefs have already made a move
today to get a Patriot. You understand, Jacksonville's got a corner.
A lot of people could like that could work for
a couple of teams. I think the Chargers are good enough.
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I think they could be a wild card teamed. Although
Denver's been surprised.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I know, I know it's gonna be a tight race
with those two.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Although Denver scheduled toughens a little. But the Chargers to me,
and I'll let you take it away, Mark, feel like
they need something on the perimeter.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
It would yeah, definitely help there, okay their cause and
help justin Herbert. But I think when you talk about
this team, you got to understand their makeup. And Jim Harbaugh,
he's obviously an a centric guy. He's a little quirky.
He's you know, he said last week in his press conference,
you know the worm has turned and like we're out
of our rut and here we come. You know, he's
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got these great sayings and all those things, but he
wants to be a hard nosed, downhill, run the ball team.
Stingy defense, which jesse mentor their defensive coordinator, has implemented.
Their one of the top scoring defenses, if not the
top scoring d defense in the league. Tough to get
points on him. They're great in the red zone. They
had six sacks yesterday against the Saints. And this is
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a team heading in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I think.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yeah, And the story of this game when you get
to this part of the season is players making plays.
The Johnny's and Joe's, not just the ex'es and o's.
And these two clips are so indicative of a Harbaugh team.
And he always has competitors welcome, right. He's got guys
like Scott Mattlock. Guys you've never heard of that play
d tackle that play full back that had a sack
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yesterday and a catch for nine yards. This guy, Mattlock
forty four. When he's in the game, it's seventy five
percent run. He has guys like that. Ladd McConkey, former
walk on at Georgia becomes a legend down in Athens
between the hedges because he's a baller, right, Those kind
of guys make plays. So watch Lad McConkey on this
first play. When we roll this clip, you see it's
Manda man across the board. Tight ball game nine to
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five Chargers are you know, both teams are kind of
going back and forth, trading blows and nobody knows what's
going on. Well, Mattlock, this is like a rerun of
the old Mattlock. I know they rebooted it with Kathy Bates,
but I'm talking Andy Griffith, old school Mattlock, right, and
this guy's going to solve the case. He's going to
understand what you need to do. Same thing with Lad McConkey.
This guy's in the slot. He understands it's man and
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man across the board. He knows he's going to have
to win a one on one matchup they show run.
Based on their formation and Mattlock being in the game,
it's almost seventy five percent chance that it's going to
be a run. So what does Greg Roman do. He
breaks the tendency after a bye week and shows, hey,
let's show him a little sugar on this fake to
the running back and cross up these linebackers. Watch what
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it does to the linebackers. One of them has to
cover Mattlock, one of them has to cover JK. Dobbins,
and these linebackers get crossed up. It opens up the
middle of the field where they want to go with
the football to Simmy Fajoku, one of their receivers, and
look what it does. Boom, there go the backers, There
goes the cross action. Herbert has to get rid of
this ball because Colin Saunders is right on. They have
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plenty of protection, but Colin Saunders somehow.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Slips through this gap. There's nobody open.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
There is nowhere to throw this football, and there's a
dude in his face about to level Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And what does he do.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
He just throws up a jump ball, a one on one,
fifty to fifty ball. And the thing that's most important
is lad McConkey. He gives his quarterback room. He's completely
covered by a Lante Taylor. This is great coverage by
Lnton Taylor. He did nothing wrong here, but Laddi McConkey
just went up and competed for the ball, got it,
and then Josh Palmer has to make a block for
him later because he slipped on his own route. I mean,
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one of their guys that they expected to potentially be
their playmaker. After Keenan Allen goes, Eckler's gone, Mike Williams
is gone.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
This guy's got to step up. Josh Palmer.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
He falls down and you're throwing to a rookie former
walk on from Georgia with a fullback who also plays
defensive tackle blocking for the quarterback, and you still get
pressure in your face.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
So the play was completely dead. The Saints had him.
They shouldn't have made that play.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
It was one guy making him play, not beating a scheme, right,
and we're gonna see that same theme on this next
red zone play. Now they get down to the red zone.
Will Disley was a defensive tackle for two years at
the University of Washington, Okay. He last week had eleven
targets and eight catches. Yesterday had six or so catches
or whatever it was. But he's number one in your progression.
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I mean, no offense to Will Disley. But that's just
usually not that. He's not George Plittle.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He's not I know.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
So I'm saying, this is what Justin Herbert's working with.
Then he's got Dobbins on the halfback Texas route or
the angle route. Your feet have to be set to
throw that thing. He immediately hops to the right. He
knows this play is dead. There's what does Jim Harbaugh say,
Who's got it better than us? Nobody? Who's open on
this play? Nobody? There is nothing here for Justin Herbert.
(35:45):
I mean, if he wanted to maybe fire that thing
to Dobbins, maybe, But he goes and becomes superman. I mean,
look at that logo.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
What is that logo?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
He needs a hoop on the fifteen yard line right there,
and he's Jordan dunking from the free throw line. Man,
like this, you can't even see McConkey. You can't even
see it. Google A Mahdi has completely covered him.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
And Lod mccaukay. He just throws it to his guy.
He's been the most consistent receiver for this offense.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Because of two abilities, availability and his reliability. This guy
is dependable, man, and he just shows up at the
right time. But those are two crucial plays for the Chargers.
That was the game right there to those points were
the game, and that is not you know, those aren't
scripted for success. Right there, those players are dead.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So that's why I think, Mark to your point, they
need help.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
They could use a playmaker, somebody that can really elevate,
that can really separate in man to man. I mean
there were no separators right we saw the Manda Man clip.
There's nobody just running free. And I understand it's the NFL.
These guys aren't gonna be wide open, but come on, man,
I mean, Jessin Herbert needs a little help. And this
is such a shift from their identity. I mean, think
(36:56):
about the Chargers as an organization. Dan Fouts throw it
all around the yard. Philip Rivers throw it all around
the yard. The first four years of Herbert's career, he's
got over eighteen thousand passing yards. I mean, this guy
can sling the rock now, but we're gonna run it
fifty times a game now, So he's adjusting to it.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I think there, how many times have I done that?
Speaker 1 (37:15):
This?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Mike? This part? Mike? Sorry? But how many times are
are they gonna?
Speaker 7 (37:21):
You know? Or how difficult? Rather is this transition for
Justin Herbert. It's just a complete shift in identity. And
he's mentioned it a couple times in their press conference
of what this team is.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
I'm gonna this just came down.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Oh oh, so breaking news.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, Anthony Richardson struggled. He's young, he only played thirteen
college games, but he pulled himself out yesterday and when
asked why, he said, I was tired. Soe. Shane Stiken's
a terrific coach. He used to be a Chargers on
the Charger staff. Shane Steiken went asked if Anthony Richardson
will start on Sunday at Minnesota. Quote, we're evaluating everything.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Oh boy, Yeah, that's not great.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
And by the way he runs so much. I get
that he's tired, but I don't think I would admitted that.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
I would have said, yeah, I think Miami's tight. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I wouldn't have said I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, the good thing is, you know Flacco's there isn't
that great? This guy. Just how was fla He used
to figure it out, Man, give me a and I
love it.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
I remember sitting at a Jets practice in the off
season when he was backing up Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
He was the veteran presence for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
I want to say rookie year second or whatever, but
I just remember sitting in there, eating lunch with him
and talking through career and highs and lows, and we
have this great conversation. I just said, how many more
you got left? He goes, oh, Man, you know me,
I'm a lifer. They got to drag me out of
this place, like they got to tell me I'm done,
because I'm never done, Like I'm going.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
To ride this thing till the wheels fall off. And
I loved that answer from him.
Speaker 7 (38:52):
And I got to do a sit down interview with
him last year when he was with the Browns, and
I just really appreciate how his family supports him.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
He's like just a solid guy and.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
They know he's on this incredible journey and he's still
got plenty of gas in the tank.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
So if I'm a Colts fan, I'm not too worried.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, he was always a big body with a big, huge.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Guy, just the mountain of a man and big arm,
big time arm. So I love watching it. I love
watching it. You can just tell he sees the big picture.
He's having a blast, and you know he's having as
much fun as you can have playing the position, almost
like a rookie or like a kid playing out in
the street. But he knows so much, you know, because
(39:33):
he's long in the tooth. He's been around so long.
I mean, this guy is He's a class act.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, and I actually think Indy's got a lot of pieces.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I like.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean, the kid who made the catch yesterday it
was down at the one, the smaller receiver. I'm what
is it again?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Greg?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Down, Josh down down? And Pittman Jonathan Taylor never goes
down with the first hit.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I know he's great back. I love Pittman, so do I.
They have some pieces.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, all right, great stuff from you today, Mark Sanchez,
Matt Hasselbeck, both stop by. It's the Steelers tonight and
the Giants. I'm gonna watch it in the corner TV.
It's the Dodgers and the Yankees. The Dodgers are cobbling
together a starting pitching staff Walker Buehler goes tonight, I
know you grew up in southern California. Were you Angels
or Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
That's a tough one. But how much time do we have?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Twelve seconds?
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Well, my grandpa used to live at Chavezervine. Then they
put the stadium there, so that was a tough sell
with the Dodgers. But you know, I'm an LA guy
and Orange County guy, so we'll lean in tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah,
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