October 28, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin is done buying into the Cowboys after another loss to the 49ers and why we need to finally accept they are not a good enough team
The Jets might not win 5 games this season
Thoughts on the World Series so far
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go to Monday. We are ready to rock
and roll live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. You
can check out our set. Halloween is Thursday, one hour
from now. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong.
Another joyous weekend starting Friday night with the World Series.
Dodgers have a two O League Game three tonight in
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New York. We'll talk about that later. Jmac Dallas Cowboys,
it may be it may be time to rebuild, like now,
maybe time book. Wow, what a disaster they what a disaster?
Well stop me if you've heard this before. The Cowboys
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got beat handily by San Francisco and Dak had several interceptions.
Brock Perty alone rushed for more yards than the Dallas Cowboys.
They are a poorly constructed football operation. Their defense, only
the Carolina Panthers have a worse defense in the NFL. Hey,
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but Dak got the bag again. Good luck with that.
I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately have to consider being
sellers at the deadline. Their schedule gets even harder. It's
time for a rebuild. They do nothing well a rebuild
starting with a kicker. I like him. He didn't even
show up. He had jury duty. He's still good, like
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the kicker. But this is a really bad football team.
And the next four games are against the Falcons and
the Eagles, and the Texans and the Commanders. In all
of those teams won yesterday, and all those teams now
are playing really good football. So you think, oh, we
got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd argue
right now, the Commanders are playing better than the Niners.
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The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean the Texans. Say
what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy,
they're really good. In Atlanta, they're gonna win their division.
I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three
and four. San Francisco was down like four or five
high end starters. They were on their third running back,
they're on their third kicker, and then Deebo Samuel gets
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hurt during the game. Brock Purtty didn't play well, and
they still rushed for two hundred and twenty three yards.
They still did it. I mean they're down multiple players.
Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon, Greg Jenny, Juwan Jennings coming
back soon. They're getting guys back. So off of by
Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half.
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But then they went to the second half and the
Cowboys first three second half drives. Listen to this pick
three and out, three and out and the Niners, with
the better coach making adjustments, their first three possessions in
the second half, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. They out gained the
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Cowboys just in the third quarter almost ten to one.
So and this is off of buy this is when
you're arrested. Yeah, Micah Parsons wasn't there, I mean, how
many Christian McCaffrey wasn't there for the other guys. So,
you know the old saying, if you fool me once,
shame on you. If you fool me twice, shame on me.
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If you fool all of us for like twenty nine years,
what does that translate to? The Mike McCarthy Cowboys look
now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the
way Philip Cowboys that looked like the Gaily Cowboys. I mean,
outside of Boeing, has any major brand fallen harder and
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faster in the last twelve months than the Dallas Cowboys.
I just don't get it. The schedule is getting tougher.
DAK against the better teams can't play. I think you
have to sell it. I think you have to keep
the kicker, keep Ceedee Lamb. I guess you keep DAK
and just move parts. Trade deadline's coming up. A lot
of people would go for Micah Parsons. A lot of
people would DeMarcus Lawrence one of the corners. Maybe you're
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tied in, you're a mile away from Detroit, you're a
I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster is stacked.
San Francisco is better than you, and they're not healthy yet.
Kansas City's and Buffalo's and Baltimore's and Houston's and I mean,
the Chargers looked good yesterday. I mean, this roster is
not top ten. I'm not sure if it's top fifteen
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in the league. I think you gotta sell it. And
I mean, you're stuck with Dak, and you know Dak
against the Niners, you get interceptions, that's what you get.
And here's here's the quarter back after not turn the
ball over.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Period. As I said, I don't have to be perfect,
but I damn sure can't be having the turnovers. Frustrated
myself that my play. I imagine the rest of the
guys are not getting to win two now two in
a row, sitting at three and four. But but I
can definitely tell you that that nobody's shaken or giving up.
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Frustration is very high. But but it's a long season, no.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It, and it keeps getting longer the more they play.
That's when you know you're in trouble when a long
season tappening to the Jets feels longer after every game
is over. I mean, the Niners were off a tough,
physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City. The Cowboys
had to buy so this was a perfect opportunity to
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finally knock out San Francisco. And that third quarter it
was a coaching mismatch, a run game mismatch, a quarterback mismatch.
I think you tear it down and rebuild it. It's painful.
Cowboy fans are loyal, but this doesn't work, and this
isn't close, and here come the Commanders and the Eagles
and the Texans and the Falcons. You could, I mean,
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you could lose all of those games. Okay, so yesterday,
I mean, I'm not somebody that you know says, you know,
this coach needs to be fired or get rid of
this staff. I'll make an exception. Today, multiple people probably
need to lose their job. That coach the Chicago Bears.
They lost to Washington, and they deserve to lose to Washington.
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That was not luck with a hail Mary. Okay, maybe
it was luck. But what I saw in the second
half may have been the worst coaching I have seen
by an NFL team over the course of a half
in years. I mean, number one, handing the ball to
a backup center. You've got good running backs, you've got
good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers. Handing the
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ball to a backup center. That was your best drive
of the day to that point. You'd had one big run,
but that was the best drive of the day to
that point. And that's your play off a bye, that's
the play. That's your clever play. That is just that's
non negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina. You've
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got players, in fact, you've spent money on the offensive side,
multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back, a
capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback that can't be
it off a bye. Secondly, on the hail Mary, you
got one of your defensive players, John with Fans as
the ball and the balls in play. He's just Jawn
with Fans. I mean there's also the fact that you
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have a linebacker on that play spying on Jaden Daniels
instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going to
peel off a fifty two yard touchdown run, what are
you doing? I mean, this is just coming off a bye.
Chicago's first seven possessions coming off a bye, six punts
and a turnover on downs. What is going on? Why
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do you use that extra work to hand the ball
off to a backup center and not be prepared on
a hail Mary? I mean, Caleb Williams was bad in
the first half, better than the second, but didn't play well.
What you saw yesterday is two young ascending teams and
two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you don't feel
this way this morning. Jayden Daniels, that's gonna work. He's
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got a support system, Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, dan Quinn new owner.
It kind of feels like it's not only gonna work,
it's working. Now. Forget the hail Mary. They outplayed Chicago.
Caleb is starting to feel a lot like Andrew Locke,
where you're like, you may need to clean house because
this kid's gonna get hurt. But that is just unforgivable nonsense. Yesterday,
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I know, I'm I'd never seen anything like it, and
I'm not somebody who stands up here and says fire
this fire, that fire. I usually defend. I mean, I
defend a Harball for years at Michigan when you wanted
him out, or a Brian Kelly at Notre Dame, or
a Lincoln Riley, or I tend to be a sark
after a bad loss. I tend to be like, you know,
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it's hard that stuff off a by it was a
it was here's the airth thing. Listen. After they're defending
the handoff and defending everything about that.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Obviously the guys are disappointed. And when you lose a
game like that, you know that's a tough one to swallow.
And we've practiced that play one hundred times since we've
been here, and again I have to look at what
the execution was of that. But we have a body
on a body boxing guys out.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Again.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I got to look at it and detail it out
and make sure we're better next time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said,
we practiced that thing one hundred times on like the
thirty eighth time you practiced it, did not somebody on
the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's
a backup center. We got really good running backs. Can
we just scrap this like it's not gonna work? I mean,
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here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for
a touchdown. You don't get any extra points if you
use a backup center then one of your running backs.
And by the way, if I was a star running
back for the Bears, and I work so hard being
a running back, can't you give me the one yard
touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it?
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Hail Mary looked disorganized that I could go on and
on about their you know fade pattern in the end zone,
which is like a three percent call. Nothing about Chicago
in the second half is endaring, none of it. I mean,
move off? Who you got to move off? But that's
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a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck. One of my
favorite things is when you go to the local radio
team on a crazy win. So I haven't heard it.
This is the Commander's radio broadcast team after the hail
Mary works for them.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
With the goal one, they break three, Davie's backing up.
He's just gonna have to let one fly, goes for
the right side that's away from the defenders, gives himself
with time now steps up, fires heads towards the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
By the way, you went to college Jmac near DC,
Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with
a winner. That team is so much fun. That was
our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year. They're
better than we thought they would be. And it's one
of those like usually with hail Mary's, I feel bad
for the losing team. I was overjoyed the Commanders won.
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They outplayed them, they out coached them, they outstand them,
they out thought them, they out prepared them and their
quarterbacks banged up. Washington completely deserved to win that games.
The only Hail Mary I've ever seen and thought no
sympathy for the losing team, because usually it's so gutting
and jarring and awful, and you see the coaching staff melt.
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It's like, no, you guys should have lost eight times?
What a Sunday? What a week? And tonight Game three
in New York two three to two. New York now
may have blown the series in Game one when they
pulled Garrett Cole. I know it's analytics. I don't want
to argue with the steam heads. Don't want to argue.
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Did not like that move. J Max, have a fun weekend.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It was an outstanding weekend. I'm glad you didn't bring
up a certain green and white moth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's next.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
No, no, no, come a week and avoid that.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
There's so much other good stuff happening around the sports world.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Why do you need to go there? What Lebron?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Come on, Lebron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers.
I mean, we love the Giants tonight, like it's just
a great time to be a sports.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We love the Giants. Speak for yourself.
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
So I'm not sure how much time I'm trying to
not talk about the Patriots, but when they keep losing,
it's hard not to. And when they keep losing the
teams like New England, remember they got beat it home
by bow Nick's rookie and everybody said, ugh, oh, that's
as bad as it gets. No, it got worse. Twenty
five twenty two lost to the Patriots. And I warned
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you when you fired Robert Solow. What did I preach?
You just let your best coach out of the building.
It's the third straight weak defensive performance, Okay, I warned
you most points the Patriots have scored all year. Jacoby
Brissett marched down the field twelve place seventy yards only
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way they could lose. And they did think about this.
The last two New England drives without Robert Salah, the
Patriots converted a third and nine, a third and nine,
a third and ten and a third and eleven. The
Patriots did not doing that with Robert Sall in the building.
But you know who wanted him out and pretend that
they didn't. It's just like, here's how nept the Jets are.
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Think about this. It's been twelve years since what the
Jets did has happened. A team had no turnovers, held
the opponent under two hundred and fifty yards and lost.
That doesn't happen. In fact, NFL teams were two hundred
and twenty and zero until yesterday. If you don't turn
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the ball over, and you in the NFL and hold
an opponent under two hundred and fifty yards for ten years,
you won every time, two hundred and twenty times in
a row until the Jets. Yesterday. One of the defensive
linemen for the Patriots set out loud what we've been
saying for multiple weeks. Aaron's done. This is it's I've
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been preaching this. He's aged poorly and quickly. There's no
discussion here. Aaron ranks thirtieth in completion percentage, and he
now has three excellent wide receivers, well, two excellent ones
and Alan Lazart. You can't blame the lack of skill players.
They've got him.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
He can't extend plays and he doesn't like motion. So
what you have is a forty year old oft an
achilles surgery who's rigid and stuck in his ways. So
he's stuck in his ways and he's stuck in the pocket.
He just doesn't work. He doesn't want to be coached.
He didn't want too much motion. They had a ton
the first game. They changed osecs. The next week they
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cut most of it out. They look disorganized. Ian O'Connor
put out a tweet yesterday it was so true. Out
of the huddle, they're slow to the line, they're slow.
There's no energy with the offense. So again, and I
don't think he's a galvanizer or a unifier. And that's
what Brady did or Stafford did when they come to
an organization and they're guys, guys, and everybody rallies around,
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and older Brady or an older staff Stafford, even though
they're older, and all the players in the locker room,
I feel like one of the guys, Aaron's not a unifier.
He's not a unifier. He's you know, and I'm not
saying he walks in and he's a divider, but he's
not a unifier. That's not what he is. And I mean,
they Jets burned three timeouts in the first quarter. They
couldn't even get the basics right, and here was air
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And after.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
I've been in the darkness, you got to go in
there make peace with it. And you can't objectively say
this is the reason why there's a lot of you know,
we had some substitution stuff. At times, we laid back
in the huddel sometimes after a big play that can
be a slow operation. You know, we have shifts and
motions on plays. After some of those, you know, we
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try to get lined up, trying to playoff, trying it
the right perfect call. There's a lot to look at.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh yeah, they're a lot to look at. Notably the
rigid forty year old quarterback who is like part time poet,
part time man at the podiums trying to sound smart
and the Jets don't play smart. Who burns three timeouts
in the first quarter. That would be like a bad
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college team with a freshman quarterback who does that. And
then at the end of the game, Robert sala is
not in the building. Well, you got an interim coach
trying to be coach. You've got your second offensive coordinator.
All you can say whatever you want. You can blame
whoever you want. But you know, I look around. I
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never thought this would be a playoff team, and I
said it. I don't think they have the leadership, and
I don't think that's what Aaron does. This is worse
than I thought, and I didn't think it was gonna
be great. I thought they were like an eight nine team,
eight to nine, nine to eight. They may not win
five games. I'm serious, they may not win five games.
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
News no no turns. This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Game three of the World Series.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
The first two colin we're outstanding Dodgers did win both
of them. Game one obviously, the unbelievable Grand Slam walkoff.
Game two was overshadowed by show Hey Otani's shoulder injury.
According to Dave Roberts, it looks like Otani will play
in Game three tonight.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Expectation given talking to shit, talking to the training staff
and getting the reports, and so I just know, if
it's a per tolerance situation, I just don't see him
not playing Game three. And I think that he's obviously
very well aware of himself and his body, So if
he feels good enough, to go, then I see no
reason why he wouldn't be in there. If he is
able to play, willing to play, He's going to play.
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And Schmidt will know that show Haes in the box,
so that means everything.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I still think the Yankees have a real opportunity here.
They have the superior starting pitching and I think Walker
Buehler goes for the Dodgers tonight, but then they go
to a bullpen game. I mean that tells you you're
in the World Series and you're gonna have to do
what you did against the Padres and Mets. You're gonna
have a bullpen game because you just don't have enough starters.
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So it's all It's hard to find a time when
you had a great starting pitching staff with a tremendous
Garrett cole ace postseason ace against a team that's having
to do on a regular basis bullpen games to survive.
But that's where we're at. That's why I still think
the Yankees have a real shot here to win a
couple of games in New York.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
This is definitely not over.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
We should turn back the clock to Friday night and
the Dodgers Grand Slam walk off. I think It's got
to be one of the seminal moments in World Series history.
Like that was an I know it didn't win the series,
but Colin, I mean, come on, from the call to the.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Shot, you know, like kid Kirk Gibson did it and
came out of the clubhouse limping, and Freddie Freeman has
been dealing with an injury all year or later in
the year, so there. It was reminiscent to some degree
of Kirk Gibson. But I mean, this is I'm sure
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you saw it. I posted it on my Instagram.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
There's all these side by sides of the Gibson with
Vince Scully's call and then Freeman shot Like it was.
I gotta say, even if you're I mean obviously a
Yankees fan born in New York, Yeah, that was pretty amazing.
I was at a Halloween party and it was just
bed loom. People were freaking out, going crazy. It was
just that was pretty awesome start to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He got admit.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yep, all right, let's move on to the NFL. Colin
and Anthony Richardson, we like this guy. We like him
a lot of the prospect, we like his head coach,
and holy cow, is he awful as a quarterback, two
for fifteen in the first half. That's what he was
passing against the Texans. And then a curious moment happened
in the third quarter. Richardson's running for his life as
the Colts offensive line is kind of breaking down there.
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I think the Texans set a record for pressures. Anthony
Richardson decided to take himself out of the game.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Here he is telling the media afterward.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, it's all right, that was a lot of runner.
Well I did.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I don't think I was gonna be able to go
that next place, so I just, uh, you know, I
just told to say, I, did you need a brick
right there?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, that can't be the reason you go out on
a crucial play. I'm tired. You're a pro athlete. I mean,
like you're a quarterback. You can't you can't do that
like wide receiver. I get sometimes you're like I just
ran seven seam routes like in a row. But yeah,
and the other thing is this is a great example
in the NFL you can do a lot, right GM.
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I like coach, I like weapons, I like running back.
I like they got Kenny Moore has been a good
corner for a long time Toforest Buckner, like they do
a lot right. If quarterback play is poor, it holds
the franchise hostage. There's nothing you can do. And I
mean this is we used to say, like the t
bow line, like there's certain percentages you have to hit
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as a starting quarterback. The Colts are completely big play reliant.
They don't. They can't sustain drives. With Anthony Richardson in
the NFL, sometimes even when you're winning, you need a
nine play drive to kill the clock. They can't. So
they struggle to play from behind, but they struggle even
to play with a lead because they can't sustain drives.
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They're terrible on third down. They can't. They can't do
the simple stuff. So it's just not built. If Shane
Steichen can't unravel this mystery, then it can't be unraveled
because he's considered as sharp as any young offensive coach
in this league.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Remember Josh Allen had the accuracy problems.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Yes, when early in his career in Buffalo, he was
never a thirty one percent in a game, Like you
watched Richardson and yeah, I got the young.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Kids at home and I'm telling him like, hey, just
get the.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Easy stuff right, you know, brush your teeth, showered, the basics. Yeah,
stay hydrated, you know, drink, take your plate to the sink,
the basic stuff. Anthony Richardson cannot do anything basic as
a quarterback. Now in his defense, there are some people
defending him. The Texans had a sixty percent pressure rate,
tied for the highest in the NFL. In a game
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this season. They had twenty for pressures on Anthony Richards's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, you know, was running for you. You know why
because they don't respect him on the back. They know
they can't read a defense. They're not doing that against Mahomes.
I mean that the idea here is, oh, this quarterback,
when you speed him up, goes from bad to awful.
That's why the Texans are doing that. So you can
defend somebody on that. Nobody's blitzing Mahomes, you know, even
even some of the young quarterbacks like a CJ. Stroud.
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You got to be very careful blitzing them like they'll
burn you. The Texans had no fear they're going to
get burned. On the other end.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Richardson unfortunately has to face Minnesota this week and Brian Floores,
who blitz I believe it the second highest rate in
the league. And they're coming off extra rest angry off
the Rams game.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
This line, this will probably be touch a touchdown by
the time we talk about it. Final story Colin NBA
getting into the first hour.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Here we go the Lakers and JJ Reddick three and zero,
first time in over a decade. Anthony Davis has been
unbelievable for the Lakers. He believes that las Start has
put has put the rest of the league un notice.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Able to hold our own and I needed to put
the league on notice that nowhere. You know, we're a
different team, you know, and any we want to, we're
gonna come out of compete every night. Know whether we're
up twenty or down twenty, you know, we're going to
continue to fight. And uh, we've been able to be
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on the winning side of things the first two games.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Also, it's notable A D's usagerate through the roof. Lebron's
usagerate has dropped. So JJ Reddick has come in. Here's
the plan. More a D. We said this after the
first game, more a D less Lebron, and for a
lot of reasons, that's the right play. Number one right now,
ads the more consistent. Better player. Number two is save
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Lebron for the games and spots it really matters.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
That's a great point, and I will add Lebron on
a back to back. Joel Ebidi are you listening back
to back? Had a triple double thirty two, fourteen and ten.
Joel Embiid won't even play back to backs. Lebron now
thirty nine years old, listen, Lakers look really good. And
by the way, I don't know if you saw, but
the Denver Nuggets are awful so far this season.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's early, but they are terrible. You've seen the plus
minus on the new guy who Westbrook.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Oh yeah, I didn't even think about it. By the way,
so the Bucks really on the struggle. Bus Nuggets really
on the struggle.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I don't think Yoki is going anywhere, but you'r Yanni's
prediction from member NBA Predictions last week.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
I'll keep an eye on it. The Bucks do not
look good.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, We've been saying this for two years. The Bucks
are too old. I mean, like when they played Boston
last year, a young, twitchy team, they just look slow. Well,
they're gonna make the playoffs, obviously, but I think my
guess one of my predictions, Yannis, after this they're and
by the way, to get young, you have to generally
get worse. Nobody wants to give up young good players,
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so you only get them by moving pieces and dry.
So does Giannis want to go to another rebuild because
you're just too old to compete against the Boston and OKC.
It's not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
League.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Look, it's only a week. We're not gonna overreact. But
to some interesting stuff so far in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jamack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So the Detroit Lions beat the Titans, not a very
good team, fifty two to fourteen, and Jared Goff had
eighty five passing yards. So there have been three great
offensive lines in about the last decade. There was the
DAK rookie year for about three years, three Pro bowlers,
the Dak o line, the Eagles before Jason Kelsey just
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retired dominant, three Pro bowlers. And this Detroit Lions offensive
line took them a couple of games this year to
figure it out. But they're a power team and they
have more touchdowns right now twenty five than interceptions or incompletions,
excuse me, more touchdowns than incompletions in their last five games.
And I mean they had three different players throw passes. Yesterday,
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six different Lions actually scored. And they're doing it in
special teams. Their punt returner had about one hundred and
ninety yards. They had a big kickoff return, the kickers good.
We always worry about the back end of their defense.
But Jamison Williams, the receiver's been out, Aiden Hutchison out
for the year, has no impact. I mean, every team
in the NFL wants their quarterback to be comfortable, right,
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You want your quarterback to be comfortable. But it's like
Jared Gobs and a lazy boy recliner back there. I mean,
he's literally literally an armchair quarterback. So he's got time
to throw, He's got a dominant run game, the special teams,
the protection, they are a buzz saw right now in Tennessee.
I mean that honestly felt it was almost collegiate. In
the second half. It felt like Alabama and the Sabin
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dynasty and Citadel just came to Tuscaloosa. It was a
complete utter mismatch. And they remind me now that that
Dallas team. Dak wasn't good enough at quarterback. They won
thirteen games, though, and they just rolled over people. And
we said this all the time. It is hard if
you have a good bullpen in baseball. It's hard to
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be a bad team if you score like the average runs.
And it's hard if you have an offensive line as
good as Dak's early O lines. I mean, Dak was
a rookie in one thirteen games the Eagles before Jason
Kelce retired. You know it's in this Detroit team. I
said this a couple of weeks ago. It feels almost inevitable.
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Kansas City, who wins every big game, and Detroit feel
like they're headed to the super Bowl. Points per game,
yards per play, offensive touchdowns, points per drive, first first, first,
second first, first first. It is really something to behold.
Don't forget Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Top of next hour
plus Matt Hasselback, Mark Sanchez on a Monday, What a
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Speaker 2 (28:57):
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Speaker 11 (29:05):
Install the baseball fans out there, just buckle up.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
This is gonna be a great series. Stanton golfs one
scraping the sky.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
They get into the gates on a Yearnico was dominating
this eighty.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Eight pitches, Let them pitch.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Natural Cords has who's not pitched in a month?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What fit?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Or has double Movie.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Down?
Speaker 10 (29:32):
Make three?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And there's a scenarios of dream about It's as good
as it gets right there.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Freddy Freeman launches this ball. He's found the seats again,
Aaron Judge, Jenny find it in the postseason. He forwards
too late.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He said, I gotta start transfer the strikes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Spaces loaded too gone.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Fly ball to center field and the Dodgers lad this
World series.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Two games so on.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
What a start for Freddy Freeman and the Dodgers. They
raced out to a two zero elite and from Yankee Stadium.
That's a pivotal Game three, as judged.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
And the Yankees look to get back in the series.
Covered begins at seven DM Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, Aaron Judge has been awful, and that's what happens
with power hitters. We told you before the series, I
thought Otani and Betts were the two best players, whereas
Aaron Judge is very power reliant, and power hitters go
through real dry spells. I still think the Yankees have
a shot. The Dodgers are going to have to have
a bullpen session. I mean that's essentially this is the
World Series. But they're going to have to have a
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bullpen game in the World Series. They're out of pitchers.
Walker Bueler goes tonight, and I think they go to
the bullpen game. And it worked against the Padres, it
worked against the Mets. Can it work in a World Series?
Even the closer in Game two alex Vessia missed the
last series. I mean, they're just running out of arms.
Is there ever been a time where a team, I mean,
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they've had forty different pitchers in the season. It doesn't
make any sense. They shouldn't win this World Series. And
the Yankees also have a really strong starting staff. Now
in Game one, there's questions about the analytics move by
Aaron Boone. He pulled Garrett Cole after eighty eight pitches.
That's analytics. I didn't agree though, And my take is,
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first of all, you're paying the guy at three hundred
and twenty four million. Is a Yankee not all pitch
counts are even or equal. Okay. The second thing is
the Dodgers are not the Guardians or the Tigers or
the Orioles. The middle and bottom of the Dodgers lineup
is so deep. Historically, Tommy Edmond in Game one batted eighth.
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He was the NLCS MVP. So you should not trust
your relievers. That the Yankee bullpen is okay. Okay, they
have a pure closer, but it's okay overall. If Garrett
Cole's humming, you just go with Garrett Cole, who's a
great postseason pitcher and the best pitcher on your staff.
So when you pull him out, you're going to lesser pitchers.
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You can probably get away with that against the Guardians
or the Orioles. I don't know if you can get
away with it. You certainly couldn't this Friday. You can't
get away with it with the Dodgers. They have so
much offensive talent. I mean, it's it's remarkable. I've never
seen anything like it. Even the great teams of the
seventies and eighties that were considered stacked at the bottom
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of a lineup you had no home run power. Not
the case here. So Derek Jeter after Aaron Boone pulled
Garrett Cole. Their age, they're three hundred and twenty four
million dollar pitcher. Humming, You know you can beat the Dodgers.
They're you know, pitching will always beat hitting. If somebody's
humming in there in Ace, you can shut down the Dodgers.
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But do you pull them if they're humming in LA
where you can steal game one? Here's Derek Jeter.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
When we were playing the Mets in two thousand and
how lighter pitch Game sixty threw one hundred and forty
something pitches, one hundred and forty something pitches. Garrett Cole
was dominating the game. He was dominating the game. And
if you take him out after eighty eight pitches for
I don't know what reason, it's a domino effect on
not only this game tonight, Tomorrow's game, and the rest
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of the series.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So I just think when you have.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Someone that's dealing like Garrett Cole was dealing tonight, you
leave him out there as long as you get.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And remember, again, it was in LA. You have to
contextualize it. It was in Los Angeles, and you're going
to go back eventually three straight in New York, so
it's in LA. You can steal it. He's your best pitcher.
The Dodgers don't get flummixed very often at the plate,
and he was flying through him. I mean, if you
want to wait until he's in real trouble, maybe it's
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only ninety eight pitches or one oh eight, but it
just felt like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I mean,
when you can find a pitcher that can get this
lineup out, I'm not I know it's analytics, but I
talk about this all the time in football analytics Like
I understand analytics, but Peyton Manning's talked about this. The
analytics can tell you to go for it, but if
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you're the quarterback and you're struggling to pick up first downs,
a fourth and two could feel like a fourth and eight.
Contextualize it. How good is your kicker if you have
an automatic kicker, How good is your defense? How much
time left? You have to contextualize all these analytics. You
know in the NBA season, you know, the mid range jumper,
which they think is useless during the big volume regular season,
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becomes very valuable because the NBA playoffs are get a
stop and get a bucket. However, whatever means possible wherever
you are on the floor and in the postseason. I
mean sometimes you'll use your starter in out of the
bullpen in like Game six or Game seven, so everything
goes out the door. What you do over the course
of a volume season, I get analytics for one hundred
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and sixty two games. You get to a World Series
against the Dodger team that maybe the best offensive lineup ever,
and you are shutting them down in Los Angeles. You
can give your bullpen, which isn't great, a rest in
Game one that I don't have. I can be a
baseball casual that feels like just keep them in. I mean,
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hard to explain, but it's analytics these days. A lot
of stuff comes from upstairs. And the Dodgers now, I
mean they win tonight, the series is obstensibly over. So
Kansas City beat the Raiders twenty seven to twenty like
all Kansas City wins. It wasn't pretty. But what the
Chiefs have done. They now control the moments that control
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football games. Opening drive, they take a lead touchdown, well,
you win. Sixty three percent of the time Raiders get
a pick, they have to make a big defensive stand,
Kansas City holds on fourth down, big moment. They were
great on third down all day, not on first down
or second down, but on third down they were twelve
or sixteen in the fourth. When they want to seal it,
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they force my minshew into a fumble and they can
seal the game, and they do. And this is now
what Kansas City does. They're not great the entire game,
but when they need in big moments to be excellent,
opening drive, big defensive stand, create a turnover or a stop,
and then score immediately after the stop. They have perfected
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the moments. All their games now look the same. It
could be the bad Raiders or the good Niners. They
all look the same. Even against brock pretty the week before.
They didn't out play San Francisco the entire game. But
in the biggest moments, you're opening drive, your big stop,
a big fourth or third down, They're just a well
oiled machine. I mean, there were moments in that game
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yesterday and the Raiders are hanging around and you're like,
but in the big moments, the Raiders disappoint you. And
in the big moments, Kansas City. You know, it's like
being the president. You have a lot of speeches. You
just got to get one right. The State of the Union.
You got to get that one right. If you get
the State of the Union, you can miss up on
a lot of Tuesdays and Wednesdays in June when nobody
cares State of the Union. You want to nail. And
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that's what the Chiefs have become. I mean, I was
seeing this this morning. The Chiefs, this is funny, have
a worse point differential than the Denver Broncos and they're
seven to zero. So it's not just it's not what
you do in the NFL, it's when you do it.
It's very reminiscent said this a month ago. They're becoming
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the Patriots. You're not sure if they have the best talent.
You're not sure even on that Sunday if they're the
best team. But on a big third, a big fourth,
a big moment, a big goal line stand, they'll outsmart you,
out hit you, and outperform you. And that's what they've done.
They have now taken over. They're the best big moment
team in the NFL. And it's like a lot of
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these big moments happen in the Super Bowl or the
AFC West Champion or AFC Championship. I mean, yesterday is
just the Raiders. But I'm sitting there watching it and
it's like, never once that I think for a second
Raiders were going to win this game. There wasn't a
second I thought that. And even though the Raiders, for
all their shoes, play hard, they hit hard, they play hard,
they give you a great effort, but in the big
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moments they don't step up. Kansas City always does.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
J Mac, so it's weird. I'm looking at the chief schedule, Collins,
so they're seven or no. Okay, they played Tampa this week.
I already bet them their nine point favorites. Tampa not good,
so they'll be eight to no. Then they play Denver
at home. I'm sorry, they're gonna beat Bonnicks. Okay, So
now they're nine or no. If they get by that
game against Buffalo on the road, when are they losing.
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And here's the craziest part of it. I don't even
think the Chiefs are one of the three best teams
in the league right now. And I know that's a
hot take, but I'm telling you, the Detroit Lions are
better than the Kansas City Chiefs right now. Baltimore and
Buffalo are better teams than the Chiefs. Well remember, but
they're potentially gonna be like twelve to zero. The problem
with Baltimore though, they have a fatal flaw. As much
as I like them, what concerns you about Baltimore? They
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are really bad on the back end of their defense.
Two guys are down yesterday.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, so they can outplay you, yeah yesterday. I didn't
worry to much about it. They can outplay you. This
is something you and I talked about. The team in
the league that's fascinating is Washington. Yeah. Do they make
a move at the trade deadline to go get a
top corner? By the way, right now, Jacksonville has has
their best corner.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
Iyson Campbell back from injury.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, go get Tyson. Jacksonville's in a rebuild.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
What about Tennessee with Lugerious Snead?
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Tennessee is the I mean they are horrific and Snead
went from being in the Super Bowls.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
To being on like a one and an awful team.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Why don't you make a place if not paying Jaden
Daniels for four years? I mean there are very few
you know, pain makes money. McLaurin there's not a lot
of guys in Washington. You couldn't shed to go get
a top corner and you maybe.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Horn in Carolina.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Carolina's bad Jase Horn talking trash to Sewn Peyton. Did
you see that at midfield after the game?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
Why you're running a fake field goal? Up by a million?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
There's some quarterbacks out there on the market though, that
could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, hey, I'll throw another one that you Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
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Another joyous weekend starting Friday night with the World Series.
Dodgers have a two O League Game three tonight in
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New York. We'll talk about that later. Jmac Dallas Cowboys,
it may be it may be time to rebuild, like now,
maybe time book. Wow, what a disaster they what a disaster?
Well stop me if you've heard this before. The Cowboys
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got beat handily by San Francisco and Dak had several interceptions.
Brock Perty alone rushed for more yards than the Dallas Cowboys.
They are a poorly constructed football operation. Their defense, only
the Carolina Panthers have a worse defense in the NFL. Hey,
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but Dak got the bag again. Good luck with that.
I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately have to consider being
sellers at the deadline. Their schedule gets even harder. It's
time for a rebuild. They do nothing well a rebuild
starting with a kicker. I like him. He didn't even
show up. He had jury duty. He's still good, like
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the kicker. But this is a really bad football team.
And the next four games are against the Falcons and
the Eagles, and the Texans and the Commanders. In all
of those teams won yesterday, and all those teams now
are playing really good football. So you think, oh, we
got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd argue
right now, the Commanders are playing better than the Niners.
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The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean the Texans. Say
what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy,
they're really good. In Atlanta, they're gonna win their division.
I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three
and four. San Francisco was down like four or five
high end starters. They were on their third running back,
they're on their third kicker, and then Deebo Samuel gets
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hurt during the game. Brock Purtty didn't play well, and
they still rushed for two hundred and twenty three yards.
They still did it. I mean they're down multiple players.
Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon, Greg Jenny, Juwan Jennings coming
back soon. They're getting guys back. So off of by
Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half.
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But then they went to the second half and the
Cowboys first three second half drives. Listen to this pick
three and out, three and out and the Niners, with
the better coach making adjustments, their first three possessions in
the second half, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. They out gained the
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Cowboys just in the third quarter almost ten to one.
So and this is off of buy this is when
you're arrested. Yeah, Micah Parsons wasn't there, I mean, how
many Christian McCaffrey wasn't there for the other guys. So,
you know the old saying, if you fool me once,
shame on you. If you fool me twice, shame on me.
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If you fool all of us for like twenty nine years,
what does that translate to? The Mike McCarthy Cowboys look
now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the
way Philip Cowboys that looked like the Gaily Cowboys. I mean,
outside of Boeing, has any major brand fallen harder and
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faster in the last twelve months than the Dallas Cowboys.
I just don't get it. The schedule is getting tougher.
DAK against the better teams can't play. I think you
have to sell it. I think you have to keep
the kicker, keep Ceedee Lamb. I guess you keep DAK
and just move parts. Trade deadline's coming up. A lot
of people would go for Micah Parsons. A lot of
people would DeMarcus Lawrence one of the corners. Maybe you're
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tied in, you're a mile away from Detroit, you're a
I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster is stacked.
San Francisco is better than you, and they're not healthy yet.
Kansas City's and Buffalo's and Baltimore's and Houston's and I mean,
the Chargers looked good yesterday. I mean, this roster is
not top ten. I'm not sure if it's top fifteen
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in the league. I think you gotta sell it. And
I mean, you're stuck with Dak, and you know Dak
against the Niners, you get interceptions, that's what you get.
And here's here's the quarter back after not turn the
ball over.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Period. As I said, I don't have to be perfect,
but I damn sure can't be having the turnovers. Frustrated
myself that my play. I imagine the rest of the
guys are not getting to win two now two in
a row, sitting at three and four. But but I
can definitely tell you that that nobody's shaken or giving up.
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Frustration is very high. But but it's a long season, no.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It, and it keeps getting longer the more they play.
That's when you know you're in trouble when a long
season tappening to the Jets feels longer after every game
is over. I mean, the Niners were off a tough,
physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City. The Cowboys
had to buy so this was a perfect opportunity to
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finally knock out San Francisco. And that third quarter it
was a coaching mismatch, a run game mismatch, a quarterback mismatch.
I think you tear it down and rebuild it. It's painful.
Cowboy fans are loyal, but this doesn't work, and this
isn't close, and here come the Commanders and the Eagles
and the Texans and the Falcons. You could, I mean,
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you could lose all of those games. Okay, so yesterday,
I mean, I'm not somebody that you know says, you know,
this coach needs to be fired or get rid of
this staff. I'll make an exception. Today, multiple people probably
need to lose their job. That coach the Chicago Bears.
They lost to Washington, and they deserve to lose to Washington.
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That was not luck with a hail Mary. Okay, maybe
it was luck. But what I saw in the second
half may have been the worst coaching I have seen
by an NFL team over the course of a half
in years. I mean, number one, handing the ball to
a backup center. You've got good running backs, you've got
good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers. Handing the
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ball to a backup center. That was your best drive
of the day to that point. You'd had one big run,
but that was the best drive of the day to
that point. And that's your play off a bye, that's
the play. That's your clever play. That is just that's
non negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina. You've
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got players, in fact, you've spent money on the offensive side,
multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back, a
capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback that can't be
it off a bye. Secondly, on the hail Mary, you
got one of your defensive players, John with Fans as
the ball and the balls in play. He's just Jawn
with Fans. I mean there's also the fact that you
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have a linebacker on that play spying on Jaden Daniels
instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going to
peel off a fifty two yard touchdown run, what are
you doing? I mean, this is just coming off a bye.
Chicago's first seven possessions coming off a bye, six punts
and a turnover on downs. What is going on? Why
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do you use that extra work to hand the ball
off to a backup center and not be prepared on
a hail Mary? I mean, Caleb Williams was bad in
the first half, better than the second, but didn't play well.
What you saw yesterday is two young ascending teams and
two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you don't feel
this way this morning. Jayden Daniels, that's gonna work. He's
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got a support system, Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, dan Quinn new owner.
It kind of feels like it's not only gonna work,
it's working. Now. Forget the hail Mary. They outplayed Chicago.
Caleb is starting to feel a lot like Andrew Locke,
where you're like, you may need to clean house because
this kid's gonna get hurt. But that is just unforgivable nonsense. Yesterday,
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I know, I'm I'd never seen anything like it, and
I'm not somebody who stands up here and says fire
this fire, that fire. I usually defend. I mean, I
defend a Harball for years at Michigan when you wanted
him out, or a Brian Kelly at Notre Dame, or
a Lincoln Riley, or I tend to be a sark
after a bad loss. I tend to be like, you know,
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it's hard that stuff off a by it was a
it was here's the airth thing. Listen. After they're defending
the handoff and defending everything about that.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Obviously the guys are disappointed. And when you lose a
game like that, you know that's a tough one to swallow.
And we've practiced that play one hundred times since we've
been here, and again I have to look at what
the execution was of that. But we have a body
on a body boxing guys out.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Again.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I got to look at it and detail it out
and make sure we're better next time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said,
we practiced that thing one hundred times on like the
thirty eighth time you practiced it, did not somebody on
the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's
a backup center. We got really good running backs. Can
we just scrap this like it's not gonna work? I mean,
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here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for
a touchdown. You don't get any extra points if you
use a backup center then one of your running backs.
And by the way, if I was a star running
back for the Bears, and I work so hard being
a running back, can't you give me the one yard
touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it?
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Hail Mary looked disorganized that I could go on and
on about their you know fade pattern in the end zone,
which is like a three percent call. Nothing about Chicago
in the second half is endaring, none of it. I mean,
move off? Who you got to move off? But that's
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a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck. One of my
favorite things is when you go to the local radio
team on a crazy win. So I haven't heard it.
This is the Commander's radio broadcast team after the hail
Mary works for them.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
With the goal one, they break three, Davie's backing up.
He's just gonna have to let one fly, goes for
the right side that's away from the defenders, gives himself
with time now steps up, fires heads towards the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
By the way, you went to college Jmac near DC,
Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with
a winner. That team is so much fun. That was
our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year. They're
better than we thought they would be. And it's one
of those like usually with hail Mary's, I feel bad
for the losing team. I was overjoyed the Commanders won.
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They outplayed them, they out coached them, they outstand them,
they out thought them, they out prepared them and their
quarterbacks banged up. Washington completely deserved to win that games.
The only Hail Mary I've ever seen and thought no
sympathy for the losing team, because usually it's so gutting
and jarring and awful, and you see the coaching staff melt.
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It's like, no, you guys should have lost eight times?
What a Sunday? What a week? And tonight Game three
in New York two three to two. New York now
may have blown the series in Game one when they
pulled Garrett Cole. I know it's analytics. I don't want
to argue with the steam heads. Don't want to argue.
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Did not like that move. J Max, have a fun weekend.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It was an outstanding weekend. I'm glad you didn't bring
up a certain green and white moth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's next.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
No, no, no, come a week and avoid that.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
There's so much other good stuff happening around the sports world.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Why do you need to go there? What Lebron?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Come on, Lebron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers.
I mean, we love the Giants tonight, like it's just
a great time to be a sports.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We love the Giants. Speak for yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
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Speaker 1 (13:14):
So I'm not sure how much time I'm trying to
not talk about the Patriots, but when they keep losing,
it's hard not to. And when they keep losing the
teams like New England, remember they got beat it home
by bow Nick's rookie and everybody said, ugh, oh, that's
as bad as it gets. No, it got worse. Twenty
five twenty two lost to the Patriots. And I warned
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you when you fired Robert Solow. What did I preach?
You just let your best coach out of the building.
It's the third straight weak defensive performance, Okay, I warned
you most points the Patriots have scored all year. Jacoby
Brissett marched down the field twelve place seventy yards only
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way they could lose. And they did think about this.
The last two New England drives without Robert Salah, the
Patriots converted a third and nine, a third and nine,
a third and ten and a third and eleven. The
Patriots did not doing that with Robert Sall in the building.
But you know who wanted him out and pretend that
they didn't. It's just like, here's how nept the Jets are.
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Think about this. It's been twelve years since what the
Jets did has happened. A team had no turnovers, held
the opponent under two hundred and fifty yards and lost.
That doesn't happen. In fact, NFL teams were two hundred
and twenty and zero until yesterday. If you don't turn
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the ball over, and you in the NFL and hold
an opponent under two hundred and fifty yards for ten years,
you won every time, two hundred and twenty times in
a row until the Jets. Yesterday. One of the defensive
linemen for the Patriots set out loud what we've been
saying for multiple weeks. Aaron's done. This is it's I've
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been preaching this. He's aged poorly and quickly. There's no
discussion here. Aaron ranks thirtieth in completion percentage, and he
now has three excellent wide receivers, well, two excellent ones
and Alan Lazart. You can't blame the lack of skill players.
They've got him.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
He can't extend plays and he doesn't like motion. So
what you have is a forty year old oft an
achilles surgery who's rigid and stuck in his ways. So
he's stuck in his ways and he's stuck in the pocket.
He just doesn't work. He doesn't want to be coached.
He didn't want too much motion. They had a ton
the first game. They changed osecs. The next week they
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cut most of it out. They look disorganized. Ian O'Connor
put out a tweet yesterday it was so true. Out
of the huddle, they're slow to the line, they're slow.
There's no energy with the offense. So again, and I
don't think he's a galvanizer or a unifier. And that's
what Brady did or Stafford did when they come to
an organization and they're guys, guys, and everybody rallies around,
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and older Brady or an older staff Stafford, even though
they're older, and all the players in the locker room,
I feel like one of the guys, Aaron's not a unifier.
He's not a unifier. He's you know, and I'm not
saying he walks in and he's a divider, but he's
not a unifier. That's not what he is. And I mean,
they Jets burned three timeouts in the first quarter. They
couldn't even get the basics right, and here was air
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And after.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
I've been in the darkness, you got to go in
there make peace with it. And you can't objectively say
this is the reason why there's a lot of you know,
we had some substitution stuff. At times, we laid back
in the huddel sometimes after a big play that can
be a slow operation. You know, we have shifts and
motions on plays. After some of those, you know, we
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try to get lined up, trying to playoff, trying it
the right perfect call. There's a lot to look at.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh yeah, they're a lot to look at. Notably the
rigid forty year old quarterback who is like part time poet,
part time man at the podiums trying to sound smart
and the Jets don't play smart. Who burns three timeouts
in the first quarter. That would be like a bad
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college team with a freshman quarterback who does that. And
then at the end of the game, Robert sala is
not in the building. Well, you got an interim coach
trying to be coach. You've got your second offensive coordinator.
All you can say whatever you want. You can blame
whoever you want. But you know, I look around. I
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never thought this would be a playoff team, and I
said it. I don't think they have the leadership, and
I don't think that's what Aaron does. This is worse
than I thought, and I didn't think it was gonna
be great. I thought they were like an eight nine team,
eight to nine, nine to eight. They may not win
five games. I'm serious, they may not win five games.
J Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
News no no turns. This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Game three of the World Series.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
The first two colin we're outstanding Dodgers did win both
of them. Game one obviously, the unbelievable Grand Slam walkoff.
Game two was overshadowed by show Hey Otani's shoulder injury.
According to Dave Roberts, it looks like Otani will play
in Game three tonight.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Expectation given talking to shit, talking to the training staff
and getting the reports, and so I just know, if
it's a per tolerance situation, I just don't see him
not playing Game three. And I think that he's obviously
very well aware of himself and his body, So if
he feels good enough, to go, then I see no
reason why he wouldn't be in there. If he is
able to play, willing to play, He's going to play.
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And Schmidt will know that show Haes in the box,
so that means everything.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I still think the Yankees have a real opportunity here.
They have the superior starting pitching and I think Walker
Buehler goes for the Dodgers tonight, but then they go
to a bullpen game. I mean that tells you you're
in the World Series and you're gonna have to do
what you did against the Padres and Mets. You're gonna
have a bullpen game because you just don't have enough starters.
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So it's all It's hard to find a time when
you had a great starting pitching staff with a tremendous
Garrett cole ace postseason ace against a team that's having
to do on a regular basis bullpen games to survive.
But that's where we're at. That's why I still think
the Yankees have a real shot here to win a
couple of games in New York.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
This is definitely not over.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
We should turn back the clock to Friday night and
the Dodgers Grand Slam walk off. I think It's got
to be one of the seminal moments in World Series history.
Like that was an I know it didn't win the series,
but Colin, I mean, come on, from the call to the.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Shot, you know, like kid Kirk Gibson did it and
came out of the clubhouse limping, and Freddie Freeman has
been dealing with an injury all year or later in
the year, so there. It was reminiscent to some degree
of Kirk Gibson. But I mean, this is I'm sure
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you saw it. I posted it on my Instagram.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
There's all these side by sides of the Gibson with
Vince Scully's call and then Freeman shot Like it was.
I gotta say, even if you're I mean obviously a
Yankees fan born in New York, Yeah, that was pretty amazing.
I was at a Halloween party and it was just
bed loom. People were freaking out, going crazy. It was
just that was pretty awesome start to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He got admit.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Yep, all right, let's move on to the NFL. Colin
and Anthony Richardson, we like this guy. We like him
a lot of the prospect, we like his head coach,
and holy cow, is he awful as a quarterback, two
for fifteen in the first half. That's what he was
passing against the Texans. And then a curious moment happened
in the third quarter. Richardson's running for his life as
the Colts offensive line is kind of breaking down there.
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I think the Texans set a record for pressures. Anthony
Richardson decided to take himself out of the game.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Here he is telling the media afterward.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, it's all right, that was a lot of runner.
Well I did.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I don't think I was gonna be able to go
that next place, so I just, uh, you know, I
just told to say, I, did you need a brick
right there?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, that can't be the reason you go out on
a crucial play. I'm tired. You're a pro athlete. I mean,
like you're a quarterback. You can't you can't do that
like wide receiver. I get sometimes you're like I just
ran seven seam routes like in a row. But yeah,
and the other thing is this is a great example
in the NFL you can do a lot, right GM.
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I like coach, I like weapons, I like running back.
I like they got Kenny Moore has been a good
corner for a long time Toforest Buckner, like they do
a lot right. If quarterback play is poor, it holds
the franchise hostage. There's nothing you can do. And I
mean this is we used to say, like the t
bow line, like there's certain percentages you have to hit
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as a starting quarterback. The Colts are completely big play reliant.
They don't. They can't sustain drives. With Anthony Richardson in
the NFL, sometimes even when you're winning, you need a
nine play drive to kill the clock. They can't. So
they struggle to play from behind, but they struggle even
to play with a lead because they can't sustain drives.
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They're terrible on third down. They can't. They can't do
the simple stuff. So it's just not built. If Shane
Steichen can't unravel this mystery, then it can't be unraveled
because he's considered as sharp as any young offensive coach
in this league.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Remember Josh Allen had the accuracy problems.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Yes, when early in his career in Buffalo, he was
never a thirty one percent in a game, Like you
watched Richardson and yeah, I got the young.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Kids at home and I'm telling him like, hey, just
get the.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Easy stuff right, you know, brush your teeth, showered, the basics. Yeah,
stay hydrated, you know, drink, take your plate to the sink,
the basic stuff. Anthony Richardson cannot do anything basic as
a quarterback. Now in his defense, there are some people
defending him. The Texans had a sixty percent pressure rate,
tied for the highest in the NFL. In a game
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this season. They had twenty for pressures on Anthony Richards's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, you know, was running for you. You know why
because they don't respect him on the back. They know
they can't read a defense. They're not doing that against Mahomes.
I mean that the idea here is, oh, this quarterback,
when you speed him up, goes from bad to awful.
That's why the Texans are doing that. So you can
defend somebody on that. Nobody's blitzing Mahomes, you know, even
even some of the young quarterbacks like a CJ. Stroud.
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You got to be very careful blitzing them like they'll
burn you. The Texans had no fear they're going to
get burned. On the other end.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Richardson unfortunately has to face Minnesota this week and Brian Floores,
who blitz I believe it the second highest rate in
the league. And they're coming off extra rest angry off
the Rams game.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
This line, this will probably be touch a touchdown by
the time we talk about it. Final story Colin NBA
getting into the first hour.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Here we go the Lakers and JJ Reddick three and zero,
first time in over a decade. Anthony Davis has been
unbelievable for the Lakers. He believes that las Start has
put has put the rest of the league un notice.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Able to hold our own and I needed to put
the league on notice that nowhere. You know, we're a
different team, you know, and any we want to, we're
gonna come out of compete every night. Know whether we're
up twenty or down twenty, you know, we're going to
continue to fight. And uh, we've been able to be
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on the winning side of things the first two games.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Also, it's notable A D's usagerate through the roof. Lebron's
usagerate has dropped. So JJ Reddick has come in. Here's
the plan. More a D. We said this after the
first game, more a D less Lebron, and for a
lot of reasons, that's the right play. Number one right now,
ads the more consistent. Better player. Number two is save
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Lebron for the games and spots it really matters.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
That's a great point, and I will add Lebron on
a back to back. Joel Ebidi are you listening back
to back? Had a triple double thirty two, fourteen and ten.
Joel Embiid won't even play back to backs. Lebron now
thirty nine years old, listen, Lakers look really good. And
by the way, I don't know if you saw, but
the Denver Nuggets are awful so far this season.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's early, but they are terrible. You've seen the plus
minus on the new guy who Westbrook.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Oh yeah, I didn't even think about it. By the way,
so the Bucks really on the struggle. Bus Nuggets really
on the struggle.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
I don't think Yoki is going anywhere, but you'r Yanni's
prediction from member NBA Predictions last week.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
I'll keep an eye on it. The Bucks do not
look good.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, We've been saying this for two years. The Bucks
are too old. I mean, like when they played Boston
last year, a young, twitchy team, they just look slow. Well,
they're gonna make the playoffs, obviously, but I think my
guess one of my predictions, Yannis, after this they're and
by the way, to get young, you have to generally
get worse. Nobody wants to give up young good players,
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so you only get them by moving pieces and dry.
So does Giannis want to go to another rebuild because
you're just too old to compete against the Boston and OKC.
It's not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
League.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Look, it's only a week. We're not gonna overreact. But
to some interesting stuff so far in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Jamack with the news.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd line news.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So the Detroit Lions beat the Titans, not a very
good team, fifty two to fourteen, and Jared Goff had
eighty five passing yards. So there have been three great
offensive lines in about the last decade. There was the
DAK rookie year for about three years, three Pro bowlers,
the Dak o line, the Eagles before Jason Kelsey just
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retired dominant, three Pro bowlers. And this Detroit Lions offensive
line took them a couple of games this year to
figure it out. But they're a power team and they
have more touchdowns right now twenty five than interceptions or incompletions,
excuse me, more touchdowns than incompletions in their last five games.
And I mean they had three different players throw passes. Yesterday,
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six different Lions actually scored. And they're doing it in
special teams. Their punt returner had about one hundred and
ninety yards. They had a big kickoff return, the kickers good.
We always worry about the back end of their defense.
But Jamison Williams, the receiver's been out, Aiden Hutchison out
for the year, has no impact. I mean, every team
in the NFL wants their quarterback to be comfortable, right,
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You want your quarterback to be comfortable. But it's like
Jared Gobs and a lazy boy recliner back there. I mean,
he's literally literally an armchair quarterback. So he's got time
to throw, He's got a dominant run game, the special teams,
the protection, they are a buzz saw right now in Tennessee.
I mean that honestly felt it was almost collegiate. In
the second half. It felt like Alabama and the Sabin
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dynasty and Citadel just came to Tuscaloosa. It was a
complete utter mismatch. And they remind me now that that
Dallas team. Dak wasn't good enough at quarterback. They won
thirteen games, though, and they just rolled over people. And
we said this all the time. It is hard if
you have a good bullpen in baseball. It's hard to
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be a bad team if you score like the average runs.
And it's hard if you have an offensive line as
good as Dak's early O lines. I mean, Dak was
a rookie in one thirteen games the Eagles before Jason
Kelce retired. You know it's in this Detroit team. I
said this a couple of weeks ago. It feels almost inevitable.
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Kansas City, who wins every big game, and Detroit feel
like they're headed to the super Bowl. Points per game,
yards per play, offensive touchdowns, points per drive, first first, first,
second first, first first. It is really something to behold.
Don't forget Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Top of next hour
plus Matt Hasselback, Mark Sanchez on a Monday, What a
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Treat stops by as well.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd. He's
a noon Eastern a Empacific. It's Small's two most legendary Fridanciz.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
Install the baseball fans out there, just buckle up.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
This is gonna be a great series. Stanton golfs one
scraping the sky.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
They get into the gates on a Yearnico was dominating
this eighty.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Eight pitches, Let them pitch.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Natural Cords has who's not pitched in a month?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
What fit?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Or has double Movie.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Down?
Speaker 10 (29:32):
Make three?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
And there's a scenarios of dream about It's as good
as it gets right there.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Freddy Freeman launches this ball. He's found the seats again,
Aaron Judge, Jenny find it in the postseason. He forwards
too late.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He said, I gotta start transfer the strikes.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Spaces loaded too gone.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Fly ball to center field and the Dodgers lad this
World series.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Two games so on.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
What a start for Freddy Freeman and the Dodgers. They
raced out to a two zero elite and from Yankee Stadium.
That's a pivotal Game three, as judged.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
And the Yankees look to get back in the series.
Covered begins at seven DM Eastern on Fox.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, Aaron Judge has been awful, and that's what happens
with power hitters. We told you before the series, I
thought Otani and Betts were the two best players, whereas
Aaron Judge is very power reliant, and power hitters go
through real dry spells. I still think the Yankees have
a shot. The Dodgers are going to have to have
a bullpen session. I mean that's essentially this is the
World Series. But they're going to have to have a
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bullpen game in the World Series. They're out of pitchers.
Walker Bueler goes tonight, and I think they go to
the bullpen game. And it worked against the Padres, it
worked against the Mets. Can it work in a World Series?
Even the closer in Game two alex Vessia missed the
last series. I mean, they're just running out of arms.
Is there ever been a time where a team, I mean,
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they've had forty different pitchers in the season. It doesn't
make any sense. They shouldn't win this World Series. And
the Yankees also have a really strong starting staff. Now
in Game one, there's questions about the analytics move by
Aaron Boone. He pulled Garrett Cole after eighty eight pitches.
That's analytics. I didn't agree though, And my take is,
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first of all, you're paying the guy at three hundred
and twenty four million. Is a Yankee not all pitch
counts are even or equal. Okay. The second thing is
the Dodgers are not the Guardians or the Tigers or
the Orioles. The middle and bottom of the Dodgers lineup
is so deep. Historically, Tommy Edmond in Game one batted eighth.
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He was the NLCS MVP. So you should not trust
your relievers. That the Yankee bullpen is okay. Okay, they
have a pure closer, but it's okay overall. If Garrett
Cole's humming, you just go with Garrett Cole, who's a
great postseason pitcher and the best pitcher on your staff.
So when you pull him out, you're going to lesser pitchers.
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You can probably get away with that against the Guardians
or the Orioles. I don't know if you can get
away with it. You certainly couldn't this Friday. You can't
get away with it with the Dodgers. They have so
much offensive talent. I mean, it's it's remarkable. I've never
seen anything like it. Even the great teams of the
seventies and eighties that were considered stacked at the bottom
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of a lineup you had no home run power. Not
the case here. So Derek Jeter after Aaron Boone pulled
Garrett Cole. Their age, they're three hundred and twenty four
million dollar pitcher. Humming, You know you can beat the Dodgers.
They're you know, pitching will always beat hitting. If somebody's
humming in there in Ace, you can shut down the Dodgers.
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But do you pull them if they're humming in LA
where you can steal game one? Here's Derek Jeter.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
When we were playing the Mets in two thousand and
how lighter pitch Game sixty threw one hundred and forty
something pitches, one hundred and forty something pitches. Garrett Cole
was dominating the game. He was dominating the game. And
if you take him out after eighty eight pitches for
I don't know what reason, it's a domino effect on
not only this game tonight, Tomorrow's game, and the rest
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of the series.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So I just think when you have.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Someone that's dealing like Garrett Cole was dealing tonight, you
leave him out there as long as you get.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And remember, again, it was in LA. You have to
contextualize it. It was in Los Angeles, and you're going
to go back eventually three straight in New York, so
it's in LA. You can steal it. He's your best pitcher.
The Dodgers don't get flummixed very often at the plate,
and he was flying through him. I mean, if you
want to wait until he's in real trouble, maybe it's
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only ninety eight pitches or one oh eight, but it
just felt like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I mean,
when you can find a pitcher that can get this
lineup out, I'm not I know it's analytics, but I
talk about this all the time in football analytics Like
I understand analytics, but Peyton Manning's talked about this. The
analytics can tell you to go for it, but if
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you're the quarterback and you're struggling to pick up first downs,
a fourth and two could feel like a fourth and eight.
Contextualize it. How good is your kicker if you have
an automatic kicker, How good is your defense? How much
time left? You have to contextualize all these analytics. You
know in the NBA season, you know, the mid range jumper,
which they think is useless during the big volume regular season,
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becomes very valuable because the NBA playoffs are get a
stop and get a bucket. However, whatever means possible wherever
you are on the floor and in the postseason. I
mean sometimes you'll use your starter in out of the
bullpen in like Game six or Game seven, so everything
goes out the door. What you do over the course
of a volume season, I get analytics for one hundred
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and sixty two games. You get to a World Series
against the Dodger team that maybe the best offensive lineup ever,
and you are shutting them down in Los Angeles. You
can give your bullpen, which isn't great, a rest in
Game one that I don't have. I can be a
baseball casual that feels like just keep them in. I mean,
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hard to explain, but it's analytics these days. A lot
of stuff comes from upstairs. And the Dodgers now, I
mean they win tonight, the series is obstensibly over. So
Kansas City beat the Raiders twenty seven to twenty like
all Kansas City wins. It wasn't pretty. But what the
Chiefs have done. They now control the moments that control
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football games. Opening drive, they take a lead touchdown, well,
you win. Sixty three percent of the time Raiders get
a pick, they have to make a big defensive stand,
Kansas City holds on fourth down, big moment. They were
great on third down all day, not on first down
or second down, but on third down they were twelve
or sixteen in the fourth. When they want to seal it,
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they force my minshew into a fumble and they can
seal the game, and they do. And this is now
what Kansas City does. They're not great the entire game,
but when they need in big moments to be excellent,
opening drive, big defensive stand, create a turnover or a stop,
and then score immediately after the stop. They have perfected
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the moments. All their games now look the same. It
could be the bad Raiders or the good Niners. They
all look the same. Even against brock pretty the week before.
They didn't out play San Francisco the entire game. But
in the biggest moments, you're opening drive, your big stop,
a big fourth or third down, They're just a well
oiled machine. I mean, there were moments in that game
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yesterday and the Raiders are hanging around and you're like,
but in the big moments, the Raiders disappoint you. And
in the big moments, Kansas City. You know, it's like
being the president. You have a lot of speeches. You
just got to get one right. The State of the Union.
You got to get that one right. If you get
the State of the Union, you can miss up on
a lot of Tuesdays and Wednesdays in June when nobody
cares State of the Union. You want to nail. And
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that's what the Chiefs have become. I mean, I was
seeing this this morning. The Chiefs, this is funny, have
a worse point differential than the Denver Broncos and they're
seven to zero. So it's not just it's not what
you do in the NFL, it's when you do it.
It's very reminiscent said this a month ago. They're becoming
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the Patriots. You're not sure if they have the best talent.
You're not sure even on that Sunday if they're the
best team. But on a big third, a big fourth,
a big moment, a big goal line stand, they'll outsmart you,
out hit you, and outperform you. And that's what they've done.
They have now taken over. They're the best big moment
team in the NFL. And it's like a lot of
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these big moments happen in the Super Bowl or the
AFC West Champion or AFC Championship. I mean, yesterday is
just the Raiders. But I'm sitting there watching it and
it's like, never once that I think for a second
Raiders were going to win this game. There wasn't a
second I thought that. And even though the Raiders, for
all their shoes, play hard, they hit hard, they play hard,
they give you a great effort, but in the big
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moments they don't step up. Kansas City always does.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
J Mac, so it's weird. I'm looking at the chief schedule, Collins,
so they're seven or no. Okay, they played Tampa this week.
I already bet them their nine point favorites. Tampa not good,
so they'll be eight to no. Then they play Denver
at home. I'm sorry, they're gonna beat Bonnicks. Okay, So
now they're nine or no. If they get by that
game against Buffalo on the road, when are they losing.
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And here's the craziest part of it. I don't even
think the Chiefs are one of the three best teams
in the league right now. And I know that's a
hot take, but I'm telling you, the Detroit Lions are
better than the Kansas City Chiefs right now. Baltimore and
Buffalo are better teams than the Chiefs. Well remember, but
they're potentially gonna be like twelve to zero. The problem
with Baltimore though, they have a fatal flaw. As much
as I like them, what concerns you about Baltimore? They
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are really bad on the back end of their defense.
Two guys are down yesterday.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, so they can outplay you, yeah yesterday. I didn't
worry to much about it. They can outplay you. This
is something you and I talked about. The team in
the league that's fascinating is Washington. Yeah. Do they make
a move at the trade deadline to go get a
top corner? By the way, right now, Jacksonville has has
their best corner.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
Iyson Campbell back from injury.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, go get Tyson. Jacksonville's in a rebuild.
Speaker 8 (39:19):
What about Tennessee with Lugerious Snead?
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Tennessee is the I mean they are horrific and Snead
went from being in the Super Bowls.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
To being on like a one and an awful team.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Why don't you make a place if not paying Jaden
Daniels for four years? I mean there are very few
you know, pain makes money. McLaurin there's not a lot
of guys in Washington. You couldn't shed to go get
a top corner and you maybe.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Horn in Carolina.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Carolina's bad Jase Horn talking trash to Sewn Peyton. Did
you see that at midfield after the game?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
Why you're running a fake field goal? Up by a million?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
There's some quarterbacks out there on the market though, that
could be interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, hey, I'll throw another one that you Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
DJ Reid free agent after the season,
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