October 29, 2024 • 28 mins
Colin talks about the Dodgers taking a 3-0 lead over the Yankees in the World Series and what the major difference in this series has been thus far. He ranks his top 10 NFL teams after week 8 in the Herd Hierarchy. Plus, 5-time World Series Champion Derek Jeter joins the show to discuss Aaron Judge's slump and how he can try to bounce back in game 4
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on eight Tuesday, live in Los Angeles.
It is the Herd wherever you may be, however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Herd Hierarchy. Top ten teams in the NFL. Yeah, the
Steelers will be in there again. Pittsburgh with another kind
of nonchalant, boring win who cares right they do. And
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the Dodgers. I'll tell you what we're having. In the
history of LA sports, there have been been very few
weeks like the one we had in Los Angeles last week,
between the Chargers and the Rams, the Lakers in USC
and the Dodgers. It felt like last night. On several
occasions they sort of separated from baseball. I was talking
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to a friend who's big baseball. Patty said, if you
look at the Yankees lineup against everybody else, it's great
against the Dodgers that look small. And let's start with that.
There were several moments last night, three in particular to me,
that felt like the World Series was over before it
was over. And the first was delivered by red hot
Freddy Freeman. It is a fastball, it's ripped down the line.
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It is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
A fifth consecutive World Series game with a Freddie Freeman
homer run, and the Dodgers are on the board first
in Game three.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Freeman, in twelve at bats, has as many home runs
and RBI as the Yankees do in one hundred and
two at bats. The Yankees also have thirty one strikeouts.
Freddie Freeman none. He is all loan alone bearing the Yankees.
So a couple of batters in it's two nothing Dodgers
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and a good Yankee starter can't get through the opening
inning unscathed. Here was the second moment, fourth inning, It's
three nothing Dodgers. John Carlos Stanton had doubled. There's a
couple of outs. Next batter up, Volpe singles to left
and Taoscar Hernandez with the with the UH and so
you get the single there right, all right, there's this,
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said John Carlos stan And here we go the play
of Tasker Hernandez career, literally a perfect throw to the
plate and you could feel literally feel the energy leave
Yankee Stadium on that play. That is all time World
Series stuff. Energy gone from the stadium. Then in the
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sixth inning, Bruce Starr Graderol, a guy that throws ninety
eight to a hundred rid miles an hour consistently, comes
in and have fastball. You're not quite working perfectly. Walk Soto,
Stanton singles too, and here comes Alex Vesia, right he
closed out Game two, gets Chazz Jisolm fielder's choice, and
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again the Dodgers escape. So Freddie Freeman starts it. Tascar
Hernandez in the fourth inning, takes the energy out of
Yankee Stadium. And then the Yankees in the last four
innings they had base runners in all of them, but
could only get runs in the ninth inning. So it's
Freeman to start. He's been dominant. Show Hey, Otani's hurt.
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I mean, they literally have used forty different pitchers, So
you're getting opportunities to beat the Dodgers. You're getting these opportunities.
The Yankees are putting guys on base, but the difference
is you go from an arrand Judge to a Stanton
and then there's a drop off in power to Jazz Chisholm.
But with the Dodgers, it just feels like Otani hurt.
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There's Freeman, Freeman's hitting, bets Bets monthcy. I mean, when
you got Tommy Edmond hitting at the bottom of the order,
who was the National League Championship Series MVP, They just
don't allow you any oxygen. The Dodgers lineup is endless power,
endless key hitters, clutch hitters, all started by Freddie Freeman.
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Fifth straight World Series or fifth straight postseason game delivering
the long ball. And here's Dave Roberts after.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
You're one of the few people on earth who know
what it's like to come back from a three to
zero deficit.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Don't talk about it wrong guy, way too early. I
don't want to divulge any secrets. But from the other side,
I just think that we have got to stay focused,
stay urgent. I think offensively, to be quite honest, we
left a lot of runs out there tonight. Still found
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a way to win a ball game and there's just
God of your urgency. I just don't want to let
these guys up for air.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
By the way, he was on the two thousand and
four Red Sox team that got down three out of
the Yankees came back to beat the Yankees in seven,
So he's been in this environment. He doesn't want anything
to do with it. But there were just several moments
last night, the Freddie Freeman homer, you can feel the
energy come out, Taskar Hernandez throw to the plate. And
then once again we thought coming into the series, the
Yankees had superior pitching, and I thought that was fair
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and everybody who sits and watches all these regular season games,
that was the feeling, that was the sense. But it's
been the Dodgers pitchers, the starting pitching. I mean, how
about Walker Buehler last night, just wiggling himself out of jams,
getting some defense, getting timely, hitting the pitch with a lead.
It just feels like again the Yankees against everybody else.
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The Guardians, other teams in the American League feel like
a superior team. Against the Dodgers, they feel kind of
small and very reliant on Aaron Judge, Soto and John
Carlos Stanton's power and Aaron Judge right now is in
an all time slump. So when you take out Judge
and his power and they're very reliant on three guys,
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it feels like to deliver it. The Dodgers aren't. I mean,
the Dodgers have how many players for the Dodgers have
multiple RBIs in the playoffs, multiple home runs in the playoff.
It's just a deeper roster. And the Dodgers pitchers are delivering,
and the Yankees pitchers, especially against Freddie Freeman, are not
all right. So here's the good news for the Steelers.
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They found their quarterback. Now he may not be the
answer forever, but Russell Wilson is now to and on
a starter. I thought he was a little little more
polished version of game one. Remember last time we saw
him he struggled first half, good in the second against
the Jets. But what it really goes to show for
the six and two Steelers is competency and no mistakes
at quarterback wins a lot of games, especially with this defense,
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which is a top three defense. Justin fields had a
higher ceiling but a lower floor, And with this run
game and this defense, you just stay away from mistakes.
The Steelers defense in all six of their wins has
held people under twenty points. So I mean Pittsburgh has
a plan. You know what this is becoming when when
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Russell Wilson went to Denver, he was the savior and
at thirty five years old, he and Sean Pate that
wasn't He wasn't a savior. He's not a savior. We're
finding Aaron Rodgers isn't a savior. And the truth is
their defense is good. The second half was so Pittsburgh Steelers.
It was defense, it was special teams. And you know,
you got to give Russell Wilson credit. He went to
Denver it was a bad fit. But in Pittsburgh it
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looks a little bit like Seahawks. Light defensive coach, defensive culture,
couple of playmakers, strong run game, better than average special teams.
It is a sturdy ship that needs a sale, and
Russell Wilson has become their lower ceiling than justin fields,
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higher floor than justin fields. But that's what this team needs.
They don't need a savior. And I'll get into this later.
Saviors don't work at quarterback. We think they do. They don't.
If a quarterback and maybe Patrick Mahomes. But Kansas City
didn't need saving. They need the playoffs the year before
with Alex Smith. But I mean this game, this game
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felt like the kind of way Pittsburgh is wanted to
win since Big Ben has left, and they couldn't find
the answer to it. They tried Kenny Pickett, Mason, Rudolph,
justin fields and they finally got a competent veteran quarterback.
Basically executes the simple stuff two or three times a game.
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He throws a nice fade or a nice deep ball.
That's all they ask. Defense, run game, no mistakes, execute
the layups. That's what Russell Wilson is doing. He is
now two and zero in this as a star in Pittsburgh.
They're six and two as a team. Here's coach after.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I just thought he you know, he didn't need to
warm up to it, you know, a little less rust
than the week before.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But I'm not surprised by his capabilities.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Third down, Steelers were almost fifty percent yards per play,
almost seven yards rushing, good penalties, very few time of possession.
Solid Again, Russell's not getting in the way Old Big Ben, Mason, Rudolph,
Kenny Pickett justin Fields had moments, but the floor much lower.
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I said this last year. If you go look at
Russell Wilson's Denver numbers last year, he and Sean Payton
didn't get along, but he wasn't terrible. His numbers were
better than what Aaron Rodgers now is delivering in New York.
But Aaron is viewed as the superior quarterback. Russell was
better in Denver than Aaron is with a Jets, and
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that's not disputable. Russell was high passer rating right now.
Aaron in New York is like mid eighty passer rating.
So again, when you got the defense, when you got
the coach, when you have the culture, in the strong run, game,
competency and no big mistakes, wins a lot of games.
When Brian Dable a few years ago cut back on
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Daniel Jones mistakes late in the season, they made the playoffs.
And this team's got better players than that Giants team.
All right, Jay MC, I think the Dodgers have sealed
it up. I do feel like the Yankees will win
one game in New York. But you know they always
say in baseball, momentum is the next day's pitcher. But
when Walker Buehler's that good, and you know, ya, Momoto's good,
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and so it's I mean, I'm watching Walker Buller and
you go into that game and you're like, he doesn't
throw as hard as he used to. But I thought
he wiggled out of a couple of jams. Obviously got
great help from you know, Tayoscar Hernandez and leftfield obviously
got huge help. But I mean, in the end, the
Dodgers postseason pitching has been a bit of a revelation,
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and the Yankees was good until this series. And it's
also hard to play from behind at home because the crowd,
the energy. There's even empty seats.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You got a home run in the first inning and
it just took the energy out of the building.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It was pathetic.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
The congrats to the Dodgers, awesome win. You've been banging
on New York Sports a lot, Colin. So the New
York Giants looked awful last night. Defensive they couldn't stop anybody.
Yankee's thatts have gone silent. There's now everybody's piggybacking our
take about Aaron Rodgers should retire. Remember I've been pushing
that for a couple of weeks. It's all bleaked very
quickly in New York, although like a month ago things
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were looking positive and up.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, New York. And we've said this before. The reason
LA Sports have had a great ten year run and
New York Sports hasn't. We have better owners and better executives.
It's not just the quarterbacks. Between the Rams and now
the Chargers and the Dodgers and the Clippers, Lakers. I
feel like out here between Balmer, Stan Kronkey, I mean
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Spanos went and got Hardball, I feel like our executive
suites and our owners are better out here as.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Stafford and Herbert of the quarterbacks in LA. In New York,
you've got Aaron Rodgers and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Nice, So a matchup there, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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the top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm gonna put the Commanders in. They had four hundred
and eighty yards against the Bears. I thought, I mean
they needed a hail Mary to beat the Bears. I
thought they were the significantly better coach team and better team.
They've won six of seven games. They're only lost to
the Ravens, and that was competitive. They don't give away
the ball at all. They're well coached. They only have
three giveaways all season. I think they need to go
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out and get a corner at the trade dead and
I've got the Commanders at ten. Number nine is Steelers.
I mean they win again. It looks like they found
the answer at quarterback. Is it the ultimate answer? Well,
Russell Wilson is getting the ball to George Pickens. That
is obvious that Pickens now is thriving. Russell Wilson has
twenty one straight games with at least one touchdown pass
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longest active streak, even longer than Mahomes and listen, throwing
the ball down the field fifteen plus yards. He was
eight of ten. So this is Russell like Seattle. You know,
it's like Seattle. Light defensive culture, good run, game, tough
at home, couple playmakers. Russell two or three times downfield
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makes a play. Number eight the Texans Listen, Nico Collins,
Defon Diggs aren't around. So it's hard to judge this team.
What I worry about is the pressure that c. J.
Stroud is facing like he's getting hit. Third most SAT
quarterback in the NFL. But again, like Washington, I love
the young quarterback, like the coach. They just don't have
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their playmakers healthy. But I think this is a team
that can win a playoff game or maybe two. Number
seven Philadelphia, big concerns about the coach, but Jalen Hurts
I said this, it feels like the last couple of
weeks they've figured out. Let's close in on what we
asked Jalen Hurts to do. He was nine for nine
in the second half against the Bengals. He's running more,
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he's throwing less, he's cutting down on the turnovers, and
the Eagles are thirteen and one when Hurtz has no turnovers.
So I think Philadelphia has looked at it and said,
we're not gonna throw it thirty five times a game.
He's gonna run ten times, he's gonna throw twenty times,
gonna keep it within certain boundaries. And this roster is excellent.
Philliate seven. Number six the Packers again, Malik Willis is
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three to zero. You know you worry about I don't
worry about much other than Jordan Love's help, But I
really like the organization. I think this team could improve
more than any in the NFL because they're so young.
I think we're just we're on the press SPUs of
seeing this team going a five or a six game
heater in December and January, where they could they surpass Detroit,
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but you got Jordan Loves banged up. It just speaks
to the stability and continuity of the franchise that Tennessee
bailed on Malik Willis and he is three and oh
as a starter, and they put him on the roster,
hadn't been here a year. They put him on during
the fifty three men like roster cut. The kid's barely
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been in town.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Number five.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The forty nine ers now, Actually they're undervalued because all
their games are standalone or national TV. We pick them
apart like the Cowboys. Well, the Cowboys are bad. The
Niners are good. They are three and oh this season.
When Purdy does not have a turnover in fifteen and oh,
since brought pretty arrive, when he doesn't have a turnover
and they're getting healthy, McCaffrey probably plays in a couple
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of weeks. Jennings is coming back they're all beat up.
But I thought they were overvalued early. Now I think
they're as they're getting healthy, they're a bit undervalued.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I still love the Ravens. But here's the thing with
the Ravens. Number one rush defense and yet the worst
pass defense, number one total offense. But also they've allowed
the most plays of twenty plus yards. So they're gonna
be in a lot of track meets, and they're gonna
win most of these track meets. But you saw it
against Cleveland. This is a team where I get so
much explosion offensively, but I do think it hurts them
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in January and February. If you get gashed, you can
outplay teams and lose, and that's what Baltimore does. They
have the most big plays and surrender the most big
plays Ravens at four. Number three, I feel like I'm
getting Josh Allen without the mistakes. They're a bully against
average teams, six and zero against teams that are five
hundred or worse, and they're zero and two against teams
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like the Ravens and Texans. So sometimes they're not as
finely tuned as I like. But again, I feel like
Green Bay. I get some cultural stability here within the organization.
They're not allowing sacks, the second fewest giveaways in the league.
So it's a much cleaner version, a much more polished
version offensively than in previous years. Buffalo at three, number two,
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You could put Detroit at number one, but Kansas City's
there until they lose. I mean, this team's blowing people out.
They have more touchdowns twenty four than incompletions twenty over
the last five games. Best offensive line. Do I trust
Dan Campbell situationally in a big spot, I'm not sure
if I do. He gets very emotional, but that emotion
is what built this culture. And I've got so much respect.
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I mean, I said this week when they played the Titans,
it looked like Bama during the Saban dynasty and Citadel
came to town. It wasn't a competitive NFL game. And
you get about four of those a season. Number one,
the Chiefs. It's so funny. They're so nuanced now. Second
best third down offense, but the fewest big plays. Forget
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the Tyreek Hill days, those are over. What they are
is great in moments, great in goal lines, great on
third down, great on opening drive. They do all the
Belichick Brady Dynasty in New England. Things in the biggest,
highest leverage moments, they're great. But the ceiling offensively now
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they'll get Rashi Rice, who knows if he comes back,
they're gonna get Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster. So the
offense will get some of its big play potential back.
But right now, what the Chiefs are is great in moments,
I'm not sure it's a great team yet. Only Detroit, however,
would be worthy of a one. And until the Chiefs lose,
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I'll keep him there one more.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean the Dodgers, we question their pitching, and then
they shut out the Podreys back to back, and then
we question their pitching against the Maps, and they did
the same thing. So they go with a bullpen group tonight,
and you'd think it would be time to eat for
the Yankees. But I gotta tell you what, Dave Roberts
is pulling the right strings forty different pitchers. Walker Butler
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last night, I thought was a really excellent Derek Jeter
seven World Series appearances, five time champ. So let's start
with Walker Buehler because I remember when he came to
the Dodgers, he was gonna be not Kershaw, but the
next great arm. And he threw, he threw hard, young babyface.
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Then he gets hurt and then he comes back and
it's like he doesn't quite overpower you, but he's still effective.
What do you see from.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Him, Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
The thing is, you said it when I think when
Walker came up, he threw so hard that he could
just throw the ball right by you.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Anytime he gets in trouble, you rear back, you throw
a hundred.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Now he's turned into a pitcher, and I think this
day and age, people pay so much attention to velocity
and strikeouts, where if you actually just go out there
and pitch, keep hitters off balance, haven't put the ball
in play, let your defense play behind you, you understand
that you can win that way as well. So it
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was really actually it was fun to watch Walker because
I think you mentioned it. When he came up, he
was the guy that was gonna be the ace of
the Dodgers. Unfortunately, had a few injuries that set them back.
But I think he's a much better pitcher now than
he was when he first came up.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So I went and looked five minutes ago. I went
and looked up Derek Jeter career playoff stats, and you
literally had no slumps. It's just unbelievable. So you can't
relate to the question I'm going to ask, But you
probably had one or two slumps in your career when
you're going through what Aaron Judge is going through. I
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remember a Rod having they dropped him in the order
to eighth. He just struggled. Is an emotional is are
you overthinking? Because golf and baseball you got a lot
of time to sit and think about your next at
you know, at bad or shot. The times you were
in I mean literally once or twice in your career
in a slump, what's going through your head?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Well, I tell you know, look, that's a little unfair
because I've had my fair share of slumps. I remember
in two thousand one World Series, I was I wasn't
doing too well the first few games, so I hit
that home run, that mister November home run.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
But that's all anyone remembers.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
They don't remember, you know, us facing Shilling and Randy Johnson,
and our entire offense was slumping. So I think I'm
not talking about Aaron in particular, But when you're in
a postseason series and you're not performing how you would
like to perform or what the expectations are of you
at the time, you start putting a little pressure on
yourself because you want to you want to contribute, you
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want to help your team out, especially when your team's
not winning, and you may try to do too much.
But then another thing in the postseason you're playing, you're
hitting against the best pitchers in the league in that
particular year. So if you're not feeling great, if you
are struggling a little bit, scuffling, trying to find your swing,
it's hard to find it when you're facing the best
pitchers in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Listen, could I felt this about the Mets. The Mets
had one great player and then a bunch of good players,
and the Dodgers had several great players. Now I do
think Soto, Judge, Stanton, Garrett Cole obviously, but part of
me looks at this and you're batting Tommy Edmond at
the bottom of your order, and Derek, he's like the
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MVP of the Nationalague championship. There's no oxygen here, like
there's no out. And I do feel like I kind
of feel like I'm watching a stacked batting order, kind
of beat a top heavy batting order. It's just more
good hitters. Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Well, I think it's fair to say that the Dodgers
are very, very deep offensively. And look, we've been covering
the Dodgers now for a few weeks, and I'll be
honest with you. During the season, I don't see too
many Dodger games because I'm sleep gol. I'll tell you
I go to sleep early. But you know, you watch
this team in one through nine, they can beat you.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
We always talk about navigating your way through a lineup
and and there's really no one you can exhale if
you're a pitcher and relax on because these guys are
They put the ball in play, They make contact. I
think that's the biggest thing. They're tough to strike out.
These guys can hit. They can hit for you know,
bass hits, they can hit home runs. I mean, they
they're doing it all. And you talk about Aaron look
at Otani hasn't really had, you know, the type of
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series that I think everyone was expecting him to have.
But the Dodgers are so deep. They're just tough, man,
They're tough, and they have a pretty good team there.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And you know, Derek, you were outspoken on this, and
I appreciate that as somebody who is a legendary player.
That is why I wouldn't have pulled Garrett Cole for
the reason you just stated. If you haven't seen the
Dodgers a lot, if you can find a picture that
can get through the lineup, just go with him. Don't
mess around with it. Again, it's different, it's the Guardians,
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it's different, or if it's the main But I kind
of thought in game one, if you can navigate through
this ridiculous batting order, just let Cole go to he's
on fumes. And you were outspoken of did you do
you think beyond game one it's set a bad tone.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I would necessarily say tone. I would I think, Look,
we don't have all the.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Information that the that the Yankees have, you know, the
things that they're dealing with. I mean, everyone has a
blueprint for success when you go into a particular game,
but uh, you know. The way I look at it
is you have to watch and and Alex makes a
good point on this is you know, you're just looking
the other dugout and you see what they do when
they when you take the picture out, we faced a
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lot of great pictures and then when they come out
of the game, everyone's running to the backrack just because
it's another look. And I thought, you know, you know,
I thought Garrett was pitching. Well, who knows what was
going on behind the scenes, but I'm a firm believer.
You just let him ride as long as you can.
But once again, let me just say it again, I'm
not sure exactly what was going on behind the scenes,
but if I was in the other dugout, I would
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have been happy that Garrett Cole was coming out.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So Freddie Freeman has hit a home run in five
straight World Series games dating back to Atlanta. This guy's
had he had his son, that story has been well documented,
his injuries. He is on a heater. Go to your
playoff career, did you ever have somebody hitting behind you
that you just you couldn't wait to get on that
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they're just seeing the ball. I mean, Freeman, now like
you expect to hit when he comes to the plate. Yeah,
take me to your career.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, personally, talk about Freddie. Yeah, let me tell you
about Freddy. First look, Freddie hits righty's, he hits lefties,
he hits fastballs, he hits off speed pitches.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He hits the ball of left field, center field, right field.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Freddie Freeman is one of the best hitters overall hitters
in the game. Yesterday, I was saying to the guys,
who reminds me a little bit of Edgar Martinez? Yeah,
Edgar Martinez, he's right handed, but this is a guy
that hits for average. He hit for power. You don't
think of him as being a home run hitter, but
he hits for power. And that's exactly what Freddie does.
So when he was going through his issues with his ankle,
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we're saying, if just having Freddy Freeman in the lineup
with one leg is going to make you better? Yeah,
now he's feeling good, but I you know, it's it's
tough then, you know, playing against guys.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I mean, Manny Ramirez was like that, David was like that. Ortiz.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
When these guys come to the plate and you're like, geez,
you don't know what's gonna happen, but Freddy's he's locked
in right now. And when Freddie Freeman is locked in,
there's really no one way to pitch him. You just
hope the person behind them is not swinging to that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, you know, analytics are tough. I know Boonie, I
like him, and I've said this before. The Yankees, they
don't make a lot of moves. Cashman's been there forever,
the VPS Aaron Boone, I appreciate that. I like continuity
in my life. I like it in my business. Dave
Robert similarly, people look at him in the aisle. He
doesn't inspire players, and I'm like, listen, players have to
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inspire themselves if you're making three hundred million dollars. I
think he's pulled the right levers in the postseason. Again,
you don't want you say you go to bed early,
But what have you seen from Dave Roberts that you like?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Oh, Dave, Well, first of all, Dave Roberts is probably
one of the best people you'll ever meet.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's always positive.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Look he you know, I think you talk to his players,
they'll tell you he's there.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
To pump them up.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Whether they're doing well in a slump and struggling a
little bit. When you're struggling, you need that that positive reinforcement.
Dave is there and and look, I get it. As
a manager, you really don't get as much credit as
you deserve when things are going good, but when things
are going bad, you basically get all the blame.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But you know, Dave's been a main stay there.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
He's been a he's a calming influence on the players,
he's a common influence on the organization. You know what
to expect from him on a day to day basis,
and he's a big reason why they're here today.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, finally, you threw out the first pitch last night?
Did you practice that? Well, you're a little nervous.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I did. I didn't. You didn't, didn't you know what
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I throw out the first pitch twice at Yankee Stadium
when they retired my number and then a Hall of
Fame ceremony, and both times I threw from in front
of the mound. And that's the furthest throw I've thrown.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Since I've retired.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
And I didn't really think it was going to be
that big of a deal for people, But you know me.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Text messages I got from everyone saying.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Don't bounce it, because you know I told President Bush
not to bounce it in two thousand and one, so
I would. The pressure was building, and then Kevin Burkhard
made a good point. It's not easy to do with
dress shoes on that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, you didn't get good footing at all. The tip
of the cap, Derek to you. Excellent work, Hey man,
I appreciate appreciate it. All right, buddy, good seeing you again.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You too. Take care
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go on eight Tuesday, live in Los Angeles.
It is the Herd wherever you may be, however you
may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.
Herd Hierarchy. Top ten teams in the NFL. Yeah, the
Steelers will be in there again. Pittsburgh with another kind
of nonchalant, boring win who cares right they do. And
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the Dodgers. I'll tell you what we're having. In the
history of LA sports, there have been been very few
weeks like the one we had in Los Angeles last week,
between the Chargers and the Rams, the Lakers in USC
and the Dodgers. It felt like last night. On several
occasions they sort of separated from baseball. I was talking
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to a friend who's big baseball. Patty said, if you
look at the Yankees lineup against everybody else, it's great
against the Dodgers that look small. And let's start with that.
There were several moments last night, three in particular to me,
that felt like the World Series was over before it
was over. And the first was delivered by red hot
Freddy Freeman. It is a fastball, it's ripped down the line.
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It is gone.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
A fifth consecutive World Series game with a Freddie Freeman
homer run, and the Dodgers are on the board first
in Game three.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Freeman, in twelve at bats, has as many home runs
and RBI as the Yankees do in one hundred and
two at bats. The Yankees also have thirty one strikeouts.
Freddie Freeman none. He is all loan alone bearing the Yankees.
So a couple of batters in it's two nothing Dodgers
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and a good Yankee starter can't get through the opening
inning unscathed. Here was the second moment, fourth inning, It's
three nothing Dodgers. John Carlos Stanton had doubled. There's a
couple of outs. Next batter up, Volpe singles to left
and Taoscar Hernandez with the with the UH and so
you get the single there right, all right, there's this,
(02:29):
said John Carlos stan And here we go the play
of Tasker Hernandez career, literally a perfect throw to the
plate and you could feel literally feel the energy leave
Yankee Stadium on that play. That is all time World
Series stuff. Energy gone from the stadium. Then in the
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sixth inning, Bruce Starr Graderol, a guy that throws ninety
eight to a hundred rid miles an hour consistently, comes
in and have fastball. You're not quite working perfectly. Walk Soto,
Stanton singles too, and here comes Alex Vesia, right he
closed out Game two, gets Chazz Jisolm fielder's choice, and
(03:17):
again the Dodgers escape. So Freddie Freeman starts it. Tascar
Hernandez in the fourth inning, takes the energy out of
Yankee Stadium. And then the Yankees in the last four
innings they had base runners in all of them, but
could only get runs in the ninth inning. So it's
Freeman to start. He's been dominant. Show Hey, Otani's hurt.
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I mean, they literally have used forty different pitchers, So
you're getting opportunities to beat the Dodgers. You're getting these opportunities.
The Yankees are putting guys on base, but the difference
is you go from an arrand Judge to a Stanton
and then there's a drop off in power to Jazz Chisholm.
But with the Dodgers, it just feels like Otani hurt.
(04:00):
There's Freeman, Freeman's hitting, bets Bets monthcy. I mean, when
you got Tommy Edmond hitting at the bottom of the order,
who was the National League Championship Series MVP, They just
don't allow you any oxygen. The Dodgers lineup is endless power,
endless key hitters, clutch hitters, all started by Freddie Freeman.
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Fifth straight World Series or fifth straight postseason game delivering
the long ball. And here's Dave Roberts after.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
You're one of the few people on earth who know
what it's like to come back from a three to
zero deficit.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Don't talk about it wrong guy, way too early. I
don't want to divulge any secrets. But from the other side,
I just think that we have got to stay focused,
stay urgent. I think offensively, to be quite honest, we
left a lot of runs out there tonight. Still found
(04:58):
a way to win a ball game and there's just
God of your urgency. I just don't want to let
these guys up for air.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
By the way, he was on the two thousand and
four Red Sox team that got down three out of
the Yankees came back to beat the Yankees in seven,
So he's been in this environment. He doesn't want anything
to do with it. But there were just several moments
last night, the Freddie Freeman homer, you can feel the
energy come out, Taskar Hernandez throw to the plate. And
then once again we thought coming into the series, the
Yankees had superior pitching, and I thought that was fair
(05:26):
and everybody who sits and watches all these regular season games,
that was the feeling, that was the sense. But it's
been the Dodgers pitchers, the starting pitching. I mean, how
about Walker Buehler last night, just wiggling himself out of jams,
getting some defense, getting timely, hitting the pitch with a lead.
It just feels like again the Yankees against everybody else.
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The Guardians, other teams in the American League feel like
a superior team. Against the Dodgers, they feel kind of
small and very reliant on Aaron Judge, Soto and John
Carlos Stanton's power and Aaron Judge right now is in
an all time slump. So when you take out Judge
and his power and they're very reliant on three guys,
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it feels like to deliver it. The Dodgers aren't. I mean,
the Dodgers have how many players for the Dodgers have
multiple RBIs in the playoffs, multiple home runs in the playoff.
It's just a deeper roster. And the Dodgers pitchers are delivering,
and the Yankees pitchers, especially against Freddie Freeman, are not
all right. So here's the good news for the Steelers.
(06:36):
They found their quarterback. Now he may not be the
answer forever, but Russell Wilson is now to and on
a starter. I thought he was a little little more
polished version of game one. Remember last time we saw
him he struggled first half, good in the second against
the Jets. But what it really goes to show for
the six and two Steelers is competency and no mistakes
at quarterback wins a lot of games, especially with this defense,
(06:57):
which is a top three defense. Justin fields had a
higher ceiling but a lower floor, And with this run
game and this defense, you just stay away from mistakes.
The Steelers defense in all six of their wins has
held people under twenty points. So I mean Pittsburgh has
a plan. You know what this is becoming when when
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Russell Wilson went to Denver, he was the savior and
at thirty five years old, he and Sean Pate that
wasn't He wasn't a savior. He's not a savior. We're
finding Aaron Rodgers isn't a savior. And the truth is
their defense is good. The second half was so Pittsburgh Steelers.
It was defense, it was special teams. And you know,
you got to give Russell Wilson credit. He went to
Denver it was a bad fit. But in Pittsburgh it
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looks a little bit like Seahawks. Light defensive coach, defensive culture,
couple of playmakers, strong run game, better than average special teams.
It is a sturdy ship that needs a sale, and
Russell Wilson has become their lower ceiling than justin fields,
(08:03):
higher floor than justin fields. But that's what this team needs.
They don't need a savior. And I'll get into this later.
Saviors don't work at quarterback. We think they do. They don't.
If a quarterback and maybe Patrick Mahomes. But Kansas City
didn't need saving. They need the playoffs the year before
with Alex Smith. But I mean this game, this game
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felt like the kind of way Pittsburgh is wanted to
win since Big Ben has left, and they couldn't find
the answer to it. They tried Kenny Pickett, Mason, Rudolph,
justin fields and they finally got a competent veteran quarterback.
Basically executes the simple stuff two or three times a game.
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He throws a nice fade or a nice deep ball.
That's all they ask. Defense, run game, no mistakes, execute
the layups. That's what Russell Wilson is doing. He is
now two and zero in this as a star in Pittsburgh.
They're six and two as a team. Here's coach after.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I just thought he you know, he didn't need to
warm up to it, you know, a little less rust
than the week before.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But I'm not surprised by his capabilities.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Third down, Steelers were almost fifty percent yards per play,
almost seven yards rushing, good penalties, very few time of possession.
Solid Again, Russell's not getting in the way Old Big Ben, Mason, Rudolph,
Kenny Pickett justin Fields had moments, but the floor much lower.
(09:37):
I said this last year. If you go look at
Russell Wilson's Denver numbers last year, he and Sean Payton
didn't get along, but he wasn't terrible. His numbers were
better than what Aaron Rodgers now is delivering in New York.
But Aaron is viewed as the superior quarterback. Russell was
better in Denver than Aaron is with a Jets, and
(09:57):
that's not disputable. Russell was high passer rating right now.
Aaron in New York is like mid eighty passer rating.
So again, when you got the defense, when you got
the coach, when you have the culture, in the strong run, game,
competency and no big mistakes, wins a lot of games.
When Brian Dable a few years ago cut back on
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Daniel Jones mistakes late in the season, they made the playoffs.
And this team's got better players than that Giants team.
All right, Jay MC, I think the Dodgers have sealed
it up. I do feel like the Yankees will win
one game in New York. But you know they always
say in baseball, momentum is the next day's pitcher. But
when Walker Buehler's that good, and you know, ya, Momoto's good,
(10:41):
and so it's I mean, I'm watching Walker Buller and
you go into that game and you're like, he doesn't
throw as hard as he used to. But I thought
he wiggled out of a couple of jams. Obviously got
great help from you know, Tayoscar Hernandez and leftfield obviously
got huge help. But I mean, in the end, the
Dodgers postseason pitching has been a bit of a revelation,
(11:01):
and the Yankees was good until this series. And it's
also hard to play from behind at home because the crowd,
the energy. There's even empty seats.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You got a home run in the first inning and
it just took the energy out of the building.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It was pathetic.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
The congrats to the Dodgers, awesome win. You've been banging
on New York Sports a lot, Colin. So the New
York Giants looked awful last night. Defensive they couldn't stop anybody.
Yankee's thatts have gone silent. There's now everybody's piggybacking our
take about Aaron Rodgers should retire. Remember I've been pushing
that for a couple of weeks. It's all bleaked very
quickly in New York, although like a month ago things
(11:34):
were looking positive and up.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, New York. And we've said this before. The reason
LA Sports have had a great ten year run and
New York Sports hasn't. We have better owners and better executives.
It's not just the quarterbacks. Between the Rams and now
the Chargers and the Dodgers and the Clippers, Lakers. I
feel like out here between Balmer, Stan Kronkey, I mean
(12:00):
Spanos went and got Hardball, I feel like our executive
suites and our owners are better out here as.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Stafford and Herbert of the quarterbacks in LA. In New York,
you've got Aaron Rodgers and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Nice, So a matchup there, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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the top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm gonna put the Commanders in. They had four hundred
and eighty yards against the Bears. I thought, I mean
they needed a hail Mary to beat the Bears. I
thought they were the significantly better coach team and better team.
They've won six of seven games. They're only lost to
the Ravens, and that was competitive. They don't give away
the ball at all. They're well coached. They only have
three giveaways all season. I think they need to go
(12:57):
out and get a corner at the trade dead and
I've got the Commanders at ten. Number nine is Steelers.
I mean they win again. It looks like they found
the answer at quarterback. Is it the ultimate answer? Well,
Russell Wilson is getting the ball to George Pickens. That
is obvious that Pickens now is thriving. Russell Wilson has
twenty one straight games with at least one touchdown pass
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longest active streak, even longer than Mahomes and listen, throwing
the ball down the field fifteen plus yards. He was
eight of ten. So this is Russell like Seattle. You know,
it's like Seattle. Light defensive culture, good run, game, tough
at home, couple playmakers. Russell two or three times downfield
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makes a play. Number eight the Texans Listen, Nico Collins,
Defon Diggs aren't around. So it's hard to judge this team.
What I worry about is the pressure that c. J.
Stroud is facing like he's getting hit. Third most SAT
quarterback in the NFL. But again, like Washington, I love
the young quarterback, like the coach. They just don't have
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their playmakers healthy. But I think this is a team
that can win a playoff game or maybe two. Number
seven Philadelphia, big concerns about the coach, but Jalen Hurts
I said this, it feels like the last couple of
weeks they've figured out. Let's close in on what we
asked Jalen Hurts to do. He was nine for nine
in the second half against the Bengals. He's running more,
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he's throwing less, he's cutting down on the turnovers, and
the Eagles are thirteen and one when Hurtz has no turnovers.
So I think Philadelphia has looked at it and said,
we're not gonna throw it thirty five times a game.
He's gonna run ten times, he's gonna throw twenty times,
gonna keep it within certain boundaries. And this roster is excellent.
Philliate seven. Number six the Packers again, Malik Willis is
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three to zero. You know you worry about I don't
worry about much other than Jordan Love's help, But I
really like the organization. I think this team could improve
more than any in the NFL because they're so young.
I think we're just we're on the press SPUs of
seeing this team going a five or a six game
heater in December and January, where they could they surpass Detroit,
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but you got Jordan Loves banged up. It just speaks
to the stability and continuity of the franchise that Tennessee
bailed on Malik Willis and he is three and oh
as a starter, and they put him on the roster,
hadn't been here a year. They put him on during
the fifty three men like roster cut. The kid's barely
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been in town.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Number five.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
The forty nine ers now, Actually they're undervalued because all
their games are standalone or national TV. We pick them
apart like the Cowboys. Well, the Cowboys are bad. The
Niners are good. They are three and oh this season.
When Purdy does not have a turnover in fifteen and oh,
since brought pretty arrive, when he doesn't have a turnover
and they're getting healthy, McCaffrey probably plays in a couple
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of weeks. Jennings is coming back they're all beat up.
But I thought they were overvalued early. Now I think
they're as they're getting healthy, they're a bit undervalued.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I still love the Ravens. But here's the thing with
the Ravens. Number one rush defense and yet the worst
pass defense, number one total offense. But also they've allowed
the most plays of twenty plus yards. So they're gonna
be in a lot of track meets, and they're gonna
win most of these track meets. But you saw it
against Cleveland. This is a team where I get so
much explosion offensively, but I do think it hurts them
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in January and February. If you get gashed, you can
outplay teams and lose, and that's what Baltimore does. They
have the most big plays and surrender the most big
plays Ravens at four. Number three, I feel like I'm
getting Josh Allen without the mistakes. They're a bully against
average teams, six and zero against teams that are five
hundred or worse, and they're zero and two against teams
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like the Ravens and Texans. So sometimes they're not as
finely tuned as I like. But again, I feel like
Green Bay. I get some cultural stability here within the organization.
They're not allowing sacks, the second fewest giveaways in the league.
So it's a much cleaner version, a much more polished
version offensively than in previous years. Buffalo at three, number two,
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You could put Detroit at number one, but Kansas City's
there until they lose. I mean, this team's blowing people out.
They have more touchdowns twenty four than incompletions twenty over
the last five games. Best offensive line. Do I trust
Dan Campbell situationally in a big spot, I'm not sure
if I do. He gets very emotional, but that emotion
is what built this culture. And I've got so much respect.
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I mean, I said this week when they played the Titans,
it looked like Bama during the Saban dynasty and Citadel
came to town. It wasn't a competitive NFL game. And
you get about four of those a season. Number one,
the Chiefs. It's so funny. They're so nuanced now. Second
best third down offense, but the fewest big plays. Forget
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the Tyreek Hill days, those are over. What they are
is great in moments, great in goal lines, great on
third down, great on opening drive. They do all the
Belichick Brady Dynasty in New England. Things in the biggest,
highest leverage moments, they're great. But the ceiling offensively now
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they'll get Rashi Rice, who knows if he comes back,
they're gonna get Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, Schuster. So the
offense will get some of its big play potential back.
But right now, what the Chiefs are is great in moments,
I'm not sure it's a great team yet. Only Detroit, however,
would be worthy of a one. And until the Chiefs lose,
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I'll keep him there one more.
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Speaker 1 (18:47):
I mean the Dodgers, we question their pitching, and then
they shut out the Podreys back to back, and then
we question their pitching against the Maps, and they did
the same thing. So they go with a bullpen group tonight,
and you'd think it would be time to eat for
the Yankees. But I gotta tell you what, Dave Roberts
is pulling the right strings forty different pitchers. Walker Butler
(19:11):
last night, I thought was a really excellent Derek Jeter
seven World Series appearances, five time champ. So let's start
with Walker Buehler because I remember when he came to
the Dodgers, he was gonna be not Kershaw, but the
next great arm. And he threw, he threw hard, young babyface.
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Then he gets hurt and then he comes back and
it's like he doesn't quite overpower you, but he's still effective.
What do you see from.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Him, Well, i'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
The thing is, you said it when I think when
Walker came up, he threw so hard that he could
just throw the ball right by you.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Anytime he gets in trouble, you rear back, you throw
a hundred.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Now he's turned into a pitcher, and I think this
day and age, people pay so much attention to velocity
and strikeouts, where if you actually just go out there
and pitch, keep hitters off balance, haven't put the ball
in play, let your defense play behind you, you understand
that you can win that way as well. So it
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was really actually it was fun to watch Walker because
I think you mentioned it. When he came up, he
was the guy that was gonna be the ace of
the Dodgers. Unfortunately, had a few injuries that set them back.
But I think he's a much better pitcher now than
he was when he first came up.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So I went and looked five minutes ago. I went
and looked up Derek Jeter career playoff stats, and you
literally had no slumps. It's just unbelievable. So you can't
relate to the question I'm going to ask, But you
probably had one or two slumps in your career when
you're going through what Aaron Judge is going through. I
(20:50):
remember a Rod having they dropped him in the order
to eighth. He just struggled. Is an emotional is are
you overthinking? Because golf and baseball you got a lot
of time to sit and think about your next at
you know, at bad or shot. The times you were
in I mean literally once or twice in your career
in a slump, what's going through your head?
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Well, I tell you know, look, that's a little unfair
because I've had my fair share of slumps. I remember
in two thousand one World Series, I was I wasn't
doing too well the first few games, so I hit
that home run, that mister November home run.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
But that's all anyone remembers.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
They don't remember, you know, us facing Shilling and Randy Johnson,
and our entire offense was slumping. So I think I'm
not talking about Aaron in particular, But when you're in
a postseason series and you're not performing how you would
like to perform or what the expectations are of you
at the time, you start putting a little pressure on
yourself because you want to you want to contribute, you
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want to help your team out, especially when your team's
not winning, and you may try to do too much.
But then another thing in the postseason you're playing, you're
hitting against the best pitchers in the league in that
particular year. So if you're not feeling great, if you
are struggling a little bit, scuffling, trying to find your swing,
it's hard to find it when you're facing the best
pitchers in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Listen, could I felt this about the Mets. The Mets
had one great player and then a bunch of good players,
and the Dodgers had several great players. Now I do
think Soto, Judge, Stanton, Garrett Cole obviously, but part of
me looks at this and you're batting Tommy Edmond at
the bottom of your order, and Derek, he's like the
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MVP of the Nationalague championship. There's no oxygen here, like
there's no out. And I do feel like I kind
of feel like I'm watching a stacked batting order, kind
of beat a top heavy batting order. It's just more
good hitters. Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Well, I think it's fair to say that the Dodgers
are very, very deep offensively. And look, we've been covering
the Dodgers now for a few weeks, and I'll be
honest with you. During the season, I don't see too
many Dodger games because I'm sleep gol. I'll tell you
I go to sleep early. But you know, you watch
this team in one through nine, they can beat you.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You can't.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
We always talk about navigating your way through a lineup
and and there's really no one you can exhale if
you're a pitcher and relax on because these guys are
They put the ball in play, They make contact. I
think that's the biggest thing. They're tough to strike out.
These guys can hit. They can hit for you know,
bass hits, they can hit home runs. I mean, they
they're doing it all. And you talk about Aaron look
at Otani hasn't really had, you know, the type of
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series that I think everyone was expecting him to have.
But the Dodgers are so deep. They're just tough, man,
They're tough, and they have a pretty good team there.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And you know, Derek, you were outspoken on this, and
I appreciate that as somebody who is a legendary player.
That is why I wouldn't have pulled Garrett Cole for
the reason you just stated. If you haven't seen the
Dodgers a lot, if you can find a picture that
can get through the lineup, just go with him. Don't
mess around with it. Again, it's different, it's the Guardians,
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it's different, or if it's the main But I kind
of thought in game one, if you can navigate through
this ridiculous batting order, just let Cole go to he's
on fumes. And you were outspoken of did you do
you think beyond game one it's set a bad tone.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I would necessarily say tone. I would I think, Look,
we don't have all the.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Information that the that the Yankees have, you know, the
things that they're dealing with. I mean, everyone has a
blueprint for success when you go into a particular game,
but uh, you know. The way I look at it
is you have to watch and and Alex makes a
good point on this is you know, you're just looking
the other dugout and you see what they do when
they when you take the picture out, we faced a
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lot of great pictures and then when they come out
of the game, everyone's running to the backrack just because
it's another look. And I thought, you know, you know,
I thought Garrett was pitching. Well, who knows what was
going on behind the scenes, but I'm a firm believer.
You just let him ride as long as you can.
But once again, let me just say it again, I'm
not sure exactly what was going on behind the scenes,
but if I was in the other dugout, I would
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have been happy that Garrett Cole was coming out.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So Freddie Freeman has hit a home run in five
straight World Series games dating back to Atlanta. This guy's
had he had his son, that story has been well documented,
his injuries. He is on a heater. Go to your
playoff career, did you ever have somebody hitting behind you
that you just you couldn't wait to get on that
(25:25):
they're just seeing the ball. I mean, Freeman, now like
you expect to hit when he comes to the plate. Yeah,
take me to your career.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, personally, talk about Freddie. Yeah, let me tell you
about Freddy. First look, Freddie hits righty's, he hits lefties,
he hits fastballs, he hits off speed pitches.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He hits the ball of left field, center field, right field.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Freddie Freeman is one of the best hitters overall hitters
in the game. Yesterday, I was saying to the guys,
who reminds me a little bit of Edgar Martinez? Yeah,
Edgar Martinez, he's right handed, but this is a guy
that hits for average. He hit for power. You don't
think of him as being a home run hitter, but
he hits for power. And that's exactly what Freddie does.
So when he was going through his issues with his ankle,
(26:03):
we're saying, if just having Freddy Freeman in the lineup
with one leg is going to make you better? Yeah,
now he's feeling good, but I you know, it's it's
tough then, you know, playing against guys.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I mean, Manny Ramirez was like that, David was like that. Ortiz.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
When these guys come to the plate and you're like, geez,
you don't know what's gonna happen, but Freddy's he's locked
in right now. And when Freddie Freeman is locked in,
there's really no one way to pitch him. You just
hope the person behind them is not swinging to that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, you know, analytics are tough. I know Boonie, I
like him, and I've said this before. The Yankees, they
don't make a lot of moves. Cashman's been there forever,
the VPS Aaron Boone, I appreciate that. I like continuity
in my life. I like it in my business. Dave
Robert similarly, people look at him in the aisle. He
doesn't inspire players, and I'm like, listen, players have to
(26:51):
inspire themselves if you're making three hundred million dollars. I
think he's pulled the right levers in the postseason. Again,
you don't want you say you go to bed early,
But what have you seen from Dave Roberts that you like?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Oh, Dave, Well, first of all, Dave Roberts is probably
one of the best people you'll ever meet.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
He's always positive.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Look he you know, I think you talk to his players,
they'll tell you he's there.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
To pump them up.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Whether they're doing well in a slump and struggling a
little bit. When you're struggling, you need that that positive reinforcement.
Dave is there and and look, I get it. As
a manager, you really don't get as much credit as
you deserve when things are going good, but when things
are going bad, you basically get all the blame.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But you know, Dave's been a main stay there.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
He's been a he's a calming influence on the players,
he's a common influence on the organization. You know what
to expect from him on a day to day basis,
and he's a big reason why they're here today.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, finally, you threw out the first pitch last night?
Did you practice that? Well, you're a little nervous.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I did. I didn't. You didn't, didn't you know what
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I throw out the first pitch twice at Yankee Stadium
when they retired my number and then a Hall of
Fame ceremony, and both times I threw from in front
of the mound. And that's the furthest throw I've thrown.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Since I've retired.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
And I didn't really think it was going to be
that big of a deal for people, But you know me.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Text messages I got from everyone saying.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Don't bounce it, because you know I told President Bush
not to bounce it in two thousand and one, so
I would. The pressure was building, and then Kevin Burkhard
made a good point. It's not easy to do with
dress shoes on that.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, you didn't get good footing at all. The tip
of the cap, Derek to you. Excellent work, Hey man,
I appreciate appreciate it. All right, buddy, good seeing you again.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You too. Take care
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