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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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We'll talk about that later. Jmac Dallas Cowboys, it may
be it may be time to rebuild, like now, maybe Wow,
what a disaster they what a disaster? Well, stop me
if you've heard this before. The Cowboys got beat handily
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by San Francisco and Dak had several interceptions. Brock Perty
alone rushed for more yards than the Dallas Cowboys. They
are a poorly constructed football operation. Their defense. Only the
Carolina Panthers have a worse defense in the NFL. Hey,
but Dak got the bag again. Good luck with that.
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I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately have to consider being
sellers at the deadline. Their schedule gets even harder. It's
time for a rebuild. They do nothing well a rebuild
starting with a kicker. I like him. He didn't even
show up. He had jury duty. He's still good, like
the kicker. But this is a really bad football team.
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And the next four games are against the Falcons and
the Eagles, and the Texans and the Commanders. In all
of those teams won yesterday, and all those teams now
are playing really good football. So you think, oh, we
got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd argue
right now, the Commanders are playing better than the Niners.
The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean the Texans. Say
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what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy,
they're really good. In Atlanta, they're gonna win their division.
I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three
and four. San Francisco was down like four or five
high end starters. They were on their third running back,
they're on their third kicker, and then Deebo Samuel gets
hurt during the game. Brock Purtty didn't play well, and
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they still rush for two hundred and twenty three yards.
They still did it. I mean they're down multiple players.
Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon, Greg Jenny, Juwan Jennings coming
back soon. They're getting guys back. So off of by
Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half.
But then they went to the second half and the
Cowboys fir three second half drives. Listen to this pick
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three and out, three and out and the Niners, with
the better coach making adjustments, their first three possessions in
the second half, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. They out gained the
Cowboys just in the third quarter almost ten to one.
So and this is off of buy this is when
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you're rested. Yeah, MICHAEH. Parsons wasn't there, I mean how
many Christian McCaffrey wasn't there for the other guy? So
you know the old saying, if you fool me once,
shame on you. If you fool me twice, shame on me.
If you fool all of us for like twenty nine years,
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what does that translate to the Mike McCarthy Cowboys look
now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the
way Philip Cowboys that looked like the Gaily Cowboys. I mean,
outside of Boeing, has any major brand fallen harder and
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faster in the last twelve months than the Dallas Cowboys.
I just don't get it. The schedule is getting tougher.
DAK against the better teams can't play. I think you
have to sell it. I think you have to keep
the kicker, keep Ceedee Lamb. I guess you keep DAK
and just move parts. Trade deadline's coming up. A lot
of people would go for Micah Parsons. A lot of
people would DeMarcus Lawrence one of the corners. Maybe you're
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tied in, you're a mile away from Detroit, you're a
I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster is stacked.
San Francisco is better than you, and they're not healthy yet.
Kansas City's and Buffalo's and Baltimore's and Houston's and I
mean the Chargers looked good yesterday. I mean, this roster
is not top ten. I'm not sure if it's top
fifteen in the league. I think you gotta sell it,
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and I mean, you're stuck with Dak, and you know
Dak against the Niners, you get interceptions, that's what you get.
And here's here's the core.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're back after not turn the ball over period. As
I said, I don't have to be perfect, but I
damn sure can't be having the turnovers.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Frustrated myself that my play.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I imagine the rest of the guys are not getting
to win two now two in a row, sitting at
three and four. But but I can definitely tell you
that that nobody's shaken or giving up. Frustration is very high.
But but it's a long season.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
No it, and it keeps getting longer the more they play.
That's when you know you're in trouble when a long
season it's happening to the Jets feels longer after every
game is over. I mean, the Niners were off a tough,
physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City. The Cowboys
had to buy so this was a perfect opportunity to
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finally knock out San Francisco and that third quarter it
was a coaching mismatch, a one game mismatch, a quarterback mismatch.
I think you tear it down and rebuild it. It's painful.
Cowboy fans are loyal, but this doesn't work and this
isn't close, and here come the Commanders and the Eagles
and the Texans and the Falcons. You could, you could,
I mean, you could lose all of those games. Okay,
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so yesterday, I mean, I'm not somebody that you know says,
you know, this coach needs to be fired or get
rid of this staff. I'll make an exception. Today, multiple
people probably need to lose their job. That coach the
Chicago Bears. They lost to Washington, and they deserve to
lose to Washington. That was not luck with a hail Mary. Okay,
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maybe it was luck. But what I saw in the
second half may have been the worst coaching I have
seen by an NFL team over the course of a
half in years. I mean, number one, handing the ball
to a backup center. You've got good running backs, you've
got good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers. Handing
the ball to a backup center. That was your best
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drive of the day to that point. You'd had one
big run, but that was the best drive of the
day to that point. And that's your play off. A
bye that's the play. That's your clever play. That is
just that's non negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina.
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You've got players, in fact, you've spent money on the
offensive side, multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back,
a capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback that can't
be it off a bye. Secondly, on the hail Mary,
you got one of your defensive players, John with Fans
as the ball and the balls in play, you're just
Jawn with Fans. I mean there's also the fact that
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you have a linebacker on that play spying on Jaden
Daniels instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going
to peel off a fifty two yard touchdown run. What
are you doing? I mean, this is just coming off
a bye. Chicago's first seven possessions coming off a bye,
six punts and a turnover on downs. What is going on?
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Why do you use that extra work to hand the
ball off to a backup center and not be prepared
on a hail Mary? I mean, Caleb Williams was bad
in the first half, better than the second, but didn't
play well. What you saw yesterday is two young ascending
teams and two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you
don't feel this way this morning. Jayden Daniels, that's gonna work.
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He's got a support system, Kingsbury, Terry McLaurin, dan Quinn
new owner. It kind of feels like it's not only
gonna work, it's working. Now forget the hail Mary. They
outplayed Chicago. Caleb is starting to feel a lot like
Andrew Locke, where you're like, you may need to clean
house because this kid's gonna get hurt. But that is
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just unforgivable nonsense. Yesterday. I you know, I'm it. I
never see anything like it, and I'm not somebody who
stands up here and says fire this fire, that fire.
I usually defend. I mean, I defend a Harball for
years at Michigan when you wanted him out, or a
Brian Kelly at Notre Dame, or a Lincoln Riley, or
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I tend to be a sark after a bad loss.
I tend to be like, you know, it's hard that
stuff off a by It was a it was here's
the air thing. Listen. After they're defending the handoff and
defending everything about that.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Obviously the guys were disappointed. When you lose a game
like that, you know, that's a tough one to swallow.
And we've practiced that play a hundred times since we've
been here, and again, I'll have to look at what
the execution was of that. But we have a body
on a body boxing guys out.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Again.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I got to look at it and detail it out
and make sure we're better next time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said,
we practiced that thing one hundred times on like the
thirty eighth time you practiced it, did not somebody on
the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's
a backup center. We got really good running backs. Can
we just scrap this like it's not gonna work. I mean,
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here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for
a touchdown. You don't get any extra points if you
use a backup center then one of your running backs.
And by the way, if I was a star running
back for the Bears and I worked so hard being
a running back, can't you give me the one yard
touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it?
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Hail Mary looked disorganized that I could go on and
on about their you know fade pattern in the end zone,
which is like a three percent call. Nothing about Chicago
in the second half is endaring, none of it. I mean,
move off? Who you got to move off? But that's
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a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck. One of my
favorite things is when you go to the local radio
team on a crazy win. So you haven't heard it.
This is the Commander's radio broadcast team after the hail
Mary works.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
For them with the goal life they bring free David's
backing up. He's just gonna have to let one flying
goes to the right song, steps away from the defenders,
gets himself with time now steps up, fires heads towards
the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
By the way, you went to college j Mack near DC.
Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with
a winner? That team is so much fun. That was
our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year. They're
better than we thought they would be. And it's one
of those like usually with hail Mary's, I feel bad
for the losing team. I was overjoyed the Commanders won.
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They outplayed them, they out coached them, they outstand after them,
they out thought them, they out prepared him and their
quarterbacks banged up. Washington completely deserved to win. That gas
the only Hail Mary I've ever seen and thought no
sympathy for the losing team, because usually it's so gutting
and jarring and awful, and you see the coaching staff melt.
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It's like, no, you guys should have lost eight times?
What a Sunday? What a week? And tonight Game three
in New York two three to two. New York now
may have blown the series in Game one when they
pulled Garrett Cole. I know it's analytics. I don't want
to argue with the steam heads. Don't want to argue.
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Did not like that move. J Max, you have a
fun weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It was an outstanding weekend.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
I'm glad you didn't bring up a certain green and
White house that's next.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, no, no, come a week and avoid that.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
There's so much other good stuff happening around the sports world.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Why do you need to go there? What Lebron?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Come on, Lebron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers.
I mean, we love the Giants tonight, like it's just
a great time to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Sports We love the Giants speak for yourself.
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Speaker 1 (13:13):
All right, we do it every Tuesday at this time.
The top ten teams in the NFL. I like the top.
I'm not sure about the bottom. Here we go, heard hierarchy,
No go.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
The top ten NFL teams according to College. Number ten.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm gonna put the Commanders in. They had four hundred
and eighty yards against the Bears. I thought, I mean
they needed to hail Mary to beat the Bears. I
thought they were the significantly better coach team and better team.
They've won six of seven games. They're only lost to
the Ravens, and that was competitive. They don't give away
the ball at all. They're well coached. They only have
three giveaways all season. I think they need to go
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out and get a corner at the trade deadline. I've
got the Commanders at ten. Number nine is Steelers. I
mean they went again. It looks like they found me
answer at quarterback. Is it the ultimate answer? Well, Russell
Wilson is getting the ball to George Pickens. That is
obvious that Pickens now is thriving. Russell Wilson has twenty
one straight games with at least one touchdown pass longest
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active streak, even longer than Mahomes and listen throwing the
ball down the field fifteen plus yards. He was eight
of ten. So this is Russell like Seattle. You know,
it's like Seattle. Light defensive culture, good run game, tough
at home, couple playmakers. Russell two or three times downfield,
makes a play. Number eight the Texans Listen, Nico Collins,
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Devon Diggs aren't around, so it's hard to judge this team.
What I worry about is the pressure that c. J.
Stroud is facing, like he's getting hit. Third most SAT
quarterback in the NFL. But again, like Washington, I love
the young quarterback. I like the coach. They just don't
have their playmakers healthy. But I think this is a
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team that can win a playoff gamer maybe two. Number
seven Philadelphia, big concerns about the coach. But Jalen Hurts
I said this, it feels like the last couple of
weeks they've figured out. Let's close in on what we
asked Jalen Hurts to do. He was nine for nine
in the second half against the Bengals, He's running more,
he's throwing less, he's cutting down on the turnovers. And
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the Eagles are thirteen and one when Hurtz has no turnovers.
So I think Philadelphia has looked at it and said,
we're not gonna throw it thirty five times a game.
He's gonna run ten times, he's gonna throw twenty times,
gonna keep it within certain boundaries. And this roster is excellent.
Philliate seven number six the Packers again, Malik Willis is
three to zero. You know you worry about I don't
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worry about much other than Jordan Love's help. But I
really liked the organization. I think this team could improve
more than any in the NFL because they're so young.
I think we're just we're on the precipice of seeing
this team go on a five or a six game
heater in December and January, where they could they surpass Detroit.
But you got Jordan Loves banged up. It just speaks
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to the stability and continuity of the franchise that Tennessee
bailed on Malik Willis and he is three and oh
as a starter, and they put him on the Roster
hadn't been here a year. They put him on during
the fifty three men like Roster cut the kid's barely
been in town.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Number five the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Now, actually they're undervalued because all their games are standalone
or national TV. We pick them apart like the Cowboys. Well,
the Cowboys are bad, the Niners are good. They are
three and oh this season when Purdy does not have
a turnover in fifteen and oh since brought pretty arrived.
When he doesn't have a turnover, and they're getting healthy,
McCaffrey probably plays in a couple of weeks. Jennings is
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coming back. They're all beat up. But I thought they
were overvalued early. Now I think they're as they're getting healthy,
they're a bit undervalued.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I still love the Ravens. But there here's the thing
with the Ravens. Number one rush defense and at the
worst pass defense, number one total offense. But also they've
allowed the most plays of twenty plus yards. So they're
gonna be in a lot of track meets, and they're
gonna win most of these track meets. But you saw
it against Cleveland. This is a team where I get
so much explosion offensively, but I do think it hurts
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them in January and February. If you get gashed, you
can outplay teams and lose, and that's what Baltimore does.
They have the most big plays and surrender the most
big plays. Ravens at four, number three, I feel like
I'm getting Josh Allen without the mistakes. They're a bully
against average teams, six and zero against teams that are
five hundred or worse, and they're zero and two against
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teams like the Ravens and Texans. So sometimes they're not
as finely tuned as I like. But again, I feel
like Green Bay I get some cultural stability here within
the organization. They're not allowing sacks, the second fewest giveaways
in the league. So it's a much cleaner version, a
much more polished version offensively that in previous years. Buffalo
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at three, number two, you could put Detroit at number one,
but Kansas City's there until they lose. I mean, this
team's blowing people out. They have more touchdowns twenty four
than incompletions twenty over the last five games. Best offensive line.
Do I trust Dan Campbell situationally in a big spot?
I'm not sure if I do, he gets very emotional.
But that emotion is what built this culture. And I've
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got so much respect. I mean, I said this week
when they played the Titans, it looked like Bama during
the Saban dynasty and Citadel came to town. It wasn't
a competitive NFL game. And you get about four of
those a season. Number One, the Chiefs, it's so funny.
They're so nuanced now, second best third down offense, but
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the fewest big plays. Forget the Tyreek Hill days, those
are over. What they are is great in moments, great
in goal line stands, great on third down, great on
opening drive. They do all the Belichick Brady Dynasty, New
England things in the biggest, highest leverage moments, they're great.
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But the ceiling offensively, now they'll get Rashi Rice, who
knows if he comes back. They're gonna get Hollywood Brown,
Juju Smith, Schuster, so the offense will get some of
its big play potential back. But right now, what the
Chiefs are is great in moments. I'm not sure it's
a great team yet. Only Detroit, however, would be worthy
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of a one. And until the Chiefs lose, I'll keep
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(19:48):
he is joining us Michael Irvin Pro Football Hall of
Famer in studio. We've got a lot of stuff. So
we have been talking about this all day. I'm like, listen,
fans can get a little gravvy, but they're fans, So yeah,
key fans got kicked out for tonight's game five. What
did you make now?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Now?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
J Max says you can't touch an athlete, so they
did grab Mooky bets. Mookie today said I don't care,
I'm over it. What would you do with them?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
What? Man? Listen this right here, these guys are national heroes.
What are y'all talking about? Y'all? Y'all got another game
in New York right now. They're sitting in some bar
even they don't okay, they can't go to the game,
but they gonna be the star at the bar. Are
you joking? They gonna be the star. Hey, aren't you
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those guys, you're the reason we got another game. Way
to go, guys, way to go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Everybody, Sam's get in your face out.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
But okay, now you're walking out to Tonneld fans doing stuff.
That's that's different. That's different, but that's part of the game.
That's part of the game that I thought that was
a home run and and you always told me that
both for I was going for it. So he thought
he had him a ball. Yeah, you final, I understand that.
That's that's good. But that's good. I can take that
right there. I just take that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Don't bother you.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Oh god, no, No, that's like that's like yelling loud
at the free throw. That's all. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You touched him, touch but.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
He was, he was. He was in my area. I
didn't go on the field to touch him. He broke
that glove.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Over here and came into my area.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah he was. I stayed here. Them kids, them kids,
they didn't leave the area. Y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Y'all gotta be rid of those guys. They're saying, hey,
right here, he came into us. We didn't go to him.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Let me help everybody with this. Let me help everybody
with this. See look at it the other way. Them
poor fellows.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Had they go and brouh and know and didn't touch anything,
they would have been the laughing stop for the rest
of their lives. They would have said, oh my god,
you had a chance. You could have affected the game.
You could have grabbed that bully him.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Among their peer group, they would have been laughing.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Oh my god, you guys know I'm right about this.
They would have been they been have killed those they
have killed those kids with a tee. They're not just killed,
They're killed. You know. They would have they'd have made
fun about in social media in New York, the King
of Rude. We do what we want to do. We
knew y Yeah, dog, okay, they would piece their kids.
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They got some some d ms from girls they never
thought they could. They were like, dude, yes, who d
M me? Yeah that is the grayl model, She says,
she saw me and influencer. I guarantee you they got some. Yeah. Well,
I mean, I mean you got some d ms. That's
what I'm talking about. O. No trouble. Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So the big big story last week, Big story last week,
Michael is that former Cowboys are like, yeah, the facility
tour are obnoxious, they're weird, they're they're cringey, and fans
are waving at us. What did you make of that?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
We can't yob we can't do this. I'm stunned. Why
that's called stun let's called.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Your stun that players are upset.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I'm stunned that I'm sitting here on national TV. I
think using my most precious resource called time, spending my
most precious resource called brain equity speaking about this being
a distraction to players that make sixty million dollars a year. Now,
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you understand, back in the day, those practice facilities used
to be way out, way.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Out right, but they weren't this nice.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Right right, and they were never this nice. They were
lost leaders. They were just lost money. So so they
moved from one property from a sea property to maybe
be prop pretty and they're building developments around it and
people are having offices and watching practice. Now, now, do
you want to live in my year when we were
making six, seven, eight, ten million dollars a year? You
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go back to those old practices where nobody's watching, but
your ass is in this year and you're making sixty
million dollars a year. The way they got it to
sixty is by moving in and letting those people watch.
If you don't want to put people to watch, go
back to making five and six and eight million dollars
a year. Otherwise, shut the hell up and play football.
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Why if somebody walking around watching you play eat lunch
is a distraction, that's not a distraction.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Let's stop coming up with stuff and making excuses for
not showing up on the football field. Are you joking
somebody watching me eat lunch? Come on, man, I cannot
be the rational one. And I've seen this story making
on every network every well, yeah, I don't know how
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this is the story. I cannot be the rational one.
It just doesn't sound humanly right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, all right, now another question. I heard you're hot
on this, Anthony Richardson. Now people say, well, Josh Allen
struggled in his first ten games. But here's where I
defended Josh Allen. He went to a team with a
defensive coach, no receivers, no run game, and he got
good his first six games to his last six. His
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rookie year, he made a big leap. Anthony's got an
offensive coach, a great back, a great line, two receivers.
He's getting worse, like noticeably with Shane Steichen. I think
they had to make him. I don't think they wanted
to do this. I think they look at their roster
and think we're the best. We have the best roster
in this division. We got we got an impulsive owner
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in Jim Mersy. We gotta win games.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
You don't like it, right, Well, the move you don't
like it, yeah, Anthony Richardson, No, it was the right move.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You're okay with it.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
It was the right move. I'm not okay with it
because I hate seeing the young man go through these
kinds of struggle. And we talk about this all the
time because it's two things that play here. It's what's
happening on the football field, but it's also what's happening
inside a young man, you know, And and there are
two things here. There's a professional him and a personal him.
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And we knew when you drafted him fourth overall he
was wrong, that he was wrong. He was wrong. So
and putting him in a position where, okay, he has
that ability and draft a fourth overall and he's wrong
in his profession, Let's make you know, an assessment that
he's probably going to be wrong in his person and
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we got to make sure we undergird him correctly and
not have these kinds of situations. You're the CEO of
the company. You can't. You've never in the history of football,
we never had a quarterback. I've never seen a quarterback
tappens and come out of.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The game was tired. What did you make of that?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well, he's a running quarterback, and I understand that. And yeah,
if you're running and he's running a few plays, and
people got to understand during the season, you you really,
if you're not very careful and diligent the if you
do a digital di diligently, you will get out of
shape during the season as the season goes on because
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you do less running as they're trying to protect.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You, as you're also constantly rehabbing, trying.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
To get rehabit and everything. Yeah, or rehabbing. So you
you really, you you got to take it upon yourself
to run more. Troy, I'm telling y'all would run all
the time. I would see him running at lunch, you know,
because the job most of times they'redropping back three steps,
five steps, seven steps, three steps step. There's not a
whole lot of running in that, so you got to
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add it, especially if you're making a living with your legs.
And you gotta understand that it has never happened in
the history of the game. Now, I can't put you
back in the game because other guys will be in
the locker room. I'm not worry I worry about the kid,
and then and then I worry about that locker room.
And if you everybody in the locker room is saying, man,
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what are we doing here? Man? We got a quarterback. Man,
the guy's tapping out. Clearly he's not ready for this.
That's why they have to sit him down. They lose
in the locker room, they'll lose the locker room. They
will lose the locker room. This is bigger than Jim Mercy.
You'll definitely see Jim Mersay. If you don't make sure
you keep this locker room there, there's no there is
no in it. There's no way to deny. You will
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be right in front of Jim Mersy if you lose
this locker room, and that move he would had to
make or he would have lost that locker room.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, okay, So, uh, the biggest play of the weekend.
Washington out played Chicago. Actually they deserve to win. I
was happy to hail Mary happen because Chicago had no
business winning. We saw the kids screwing around Tarik Stevens
saying it's a mistake. Okay, he's a kid. I would
be mad make him speak to the team. But is
there a way? Did you and Jimmy? Did you guys
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practice hail Mary's every day all the time.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Every day, and people gotta have to understand there's a
system to a hell Mary. There's a system and that's
why man watching it, I was like, whoa did you
see this? I was telling the guys earlier. I was
at the Miami game in cam Ward. He came over
to the game. He was Crab, the guy, the stick guy.
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Do we have a TV time out? He said, no
TV time I need it. Turn around, told coach get
the guys here. We're not gonna have a TV time out.
I need to get it there. We gotta go fast.
I looked back to Bernie Coozark because we were all
on the sideline. I said, was that Bernie? He said, Man,
it took me five years before I learned all of that.
I was like, I didn't even know that stick man
existed on the football field. You see what I'm saying.
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So to me that you're seeing leadership and a player
that's beyond his years. What I saw in that hell
was something beyond his years. Again, now the order of
a hell, Mary, you have three men involved him. Most important,
you have a point man. His job is to go
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down and stand maybe a yard right inside the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Right first guy, you want to stand in front of
the goal line.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Right in front of the goal line. Boom face back
rebound position, basketball rebound position, A tip guy. You know.
He he is the point guy. The first guy one
yard in side the end zone. He is the point guy.
The next guy four yards outside the goal line, he
is the front guy. Because their job, the defense is
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taught to bat it down. So that guy is going
to be the little quick guy, the fast god. So
if it gets back down, we didn't skip read, get
your butt in his in zone. So guy away. So
he's going to be a fast guy, a guy like me,
Noah Brown. We're going to be on the backside five
yards past to pass out. The point man and his
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job as the point man is to try to catch it.
If he can't get it, push it back, point it,
kick it back and Noah Brown gets it. But if
they try to get it and hit it forward, then
we got the front man to hit it. Now, now
I want you to go inside of a football game.
These things are usually happening at the end of a game,
and there are things that you that people haven't talked about. Now.
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First of all, even to get to the fifty yard line.
You remember you had to throw that quick out there,
So we were in a two minute drill just to
get to the fifty yard line. That means everybody just
line up playing, line up playing, line up playing, and
then you get to the fifty yard line and throw
the hell Mary, you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Are damn exhausted.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
You're exhausted. You never get it set up as we
practice it because there's never enough time for exhausted as
you want to run fifty yards. No, it wasn't he
created the time.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
What he did the way the way he can't he
every time he back up, and then the quarterbacks have
come forward and go right or left, but that's not
enough time, and they'll throw the ball. He backed up,
went forward when one way, then came back the other way,
and then as he was coming to the side he
was going to throw it on he will still waited,
see like get in position. And then through that jump ball.
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I said to myself, that's beyond his years to understand
the sense of time. And when when you're that's young,
everything is being rushed. It's incredible and it's so beautiful
to watch how he comes along, how he's coming along.
But it's it's you have.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Done if you coached the Bears with that Tarik Stevenson
messing around with the fans man.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It's afterwards and there's nothing you can do. You know,
we're not in the Jimmy Johnson years where you just
made an example.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Out of guys and you know can't do that anymore, right.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Right, right, because you know you just can't do that anymore.
So here what you gotta do is, you know, and
if that part is he was supposed to be the
guy that's boxing out, that's boxing out Noah Brown, and
that's that's only one doodoo. That's only one doodoo that
you didn't get the box out. Now the other doodoo
for me is is now you come running in and
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everybody's in position to play basketball to knock the ball down.
But when you come running in with that in ertia,
you knocked everybody off where they were going, and you
were the one to kick the ball back to Noah Brown.
That's the second Dodoo. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Also, they had a spy on Jaden Daniels. That felt
like a wasted defender, right.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
But because that's on, God gifts shoulders down. What we
told about what Jay Daniels doing is his ability to
understand things shoulders up. But when he was getting away
from the Russians, that's just what God, God just said
and just gave him that kind of gift for that.
He's he smooth.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Michael Irvin of the playmaker defending righteously. You know, Michael
made a good point. J Mac Mookie Betts sort of
came into their space, their parking spot. They nudged his
car into their parking spot.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And if those dudes came on the field for that ball,
that's a different story.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It is throwing stuff's a different story. Going on the
field a different story. In all your years, was there
I remember years ago, Uh, there was a player named
Mike Curtis. He was a linebacker. Somebody came on the
field and he tackled him. In all your years of
high school, college pro, let's just go college pro, did
any fan ever run on the field.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
No, No, I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Most people are smart enough.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Not not that I remember, And you got to remember
to Collins, I was always playing for one of the majors,
you know, by Saint Thomas Aquinas High School, the University
of Miami, and you are the.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Dallas had real security.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Boy, Yeah, that was real security there because they are
one of the majors.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This wasn't a D three school.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, that was always good. You know, we had the
real popo over there.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
They're real pope.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
We didn't have a ren the renters, you know, the rent.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
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Speaker 1 (35:14):
Here we go. It's a Friday, it's hour two. I'm
making dinner reservations. I'm all fired up. Friday night's off,
little pasta tonight. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Are you getting after it in a neighborhood I'm aware
of or no?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Because I might be in that area tonight. No, I
don't the bolder Okay, got this night you were out there,
I was living it up.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
You know, La loved a good block party on Halloween.
It's Halloween's really fun out here in La.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know it's nice.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You know what I was doing last night? Cigar Nope,
total clarity. No celebrating the Jets in the streets.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Let's go get her Wilson.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
In the streets. Yeah, Hey, I was standing on business. Okay.
I like the picks. I usually like my picks, but
sometimes I really like my picks. That doesn't mean anything,
but uh, last couple of weeks, I think I've been better.
We had the Jets last night on DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
So here we go.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Let's blaze it up.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Fired up.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's Collins Blazon, fuck Cowboys hit Falcons.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I like Dallas plus three. I think they're gonna win
straight out. Listen. It's a must win, and they've actually
been a better road team than a home team this year.
The Falcons six of their eight wins have come by
one possession. Their defense six sacks. Dak Prescott's gonna sit
in the pocket with time to throw. The Falcons defense
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this year on third down, terrible quarterback hits, sacks, terrible,
A comfortable Dack said this a couple of weeks ago,
and Seattle beat him a comfortable quarterback against Atlanta. I'm
gonna take the Cowboys here twenty eight to twenty seven
in a fun game. Commanders and Giants. You know I
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love the number four. I'm gonna take Commanders minus four.
They outplayed the Bears. It should never have been that close.
They lead the NFL in points per drive. That's a
key gambling stat. Their defense, I don't think they have
great personnel, but dan Quinn's got them playing like a
top ten unit. The Giants a bad team, are on
short rest. They're zero to four at home. Daniel Jones
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has not thrown a touchdown pass since his great left
tackle was out for the season. Their defense now is
on the field too much because the Giants offense is
so bad, so their defense is wearing down. This is
a bad football team. The Commanders offensively since Week two
have been money. I think they win straight out twenty
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eight to twenty. Lay the points. Broncos and Ravens. I
generally do not like big favorites. I love Baltimore here,
especially off a loss, they're in a bad mood, and
the Ravens at home Homer Money. Their five wins have
come by an average of nine point six points. Lamar's
six straight games of one hundred plus passer rating. Derrick
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Henry leads the NFL in rushing. I know what the
Ravens are and their weakness the back end. I don't
think the Broncos will exploit Bo Nicks on the road
as a rookie quarterback has a sixty eight passer rating
and completing barely above sixty percent. They've got notable injuries
to their right tackle. Their wins have come against the
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Jets and the Raiders, and the Saints and the Panthers.
I think this is a get right game for the Ravens.
They cover the spread, they win thirty three to twenty three,
and I don't think it will field that close. LIONSID Packers.
I get Green Bay at home plus points. Jared Goffs
banged up a little. I'm gonna take the Packers here
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plus two and a half. Matt Lafleur is a great coax,
not a good one. They've won six of their last
seven games. They're averaging over twenty eight point points. You
know what Jordan Love or Malik willis. The offense is
moving and they're a very aggressive green Bay team. They're
second in the NFL in big plays offensively. They lead
the NFL in takeaways defensively. This is a very unique
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green Bay team. They're well coached, They're hyper aggressive on
both sides, and aggressive teams can beat the Lions, who
are banged up a little bit. All twelve different players
this week on the injury report. They don't have Javison
Williams over the top to burn green Bay secondary. I
just think in a division rivalry game, green Bay at home,
better coach getting the points. Titans kind got some rush
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yards on Detroit last week. Be careful. I'm going to
take the Packers to win. It an upset kind of,
but I don't really feel like it's an NFL upset
when the Packers win at home with a better coach.
Twenty eight twenty seven, take the points. Rams at Seahawks.
I like the Rams, great coach with extra rest. These
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Thursday games games are an advantage the following week. They
beat the Vikings on Thursday, extra rest that Rams are
one of the better teams in the league. When they're healthy.
When Stafford and Puka and Cup and Kyen Williams play,
they're seven to three to the second least penalized team
in the league. The Rams are a really good team
with a young defense, but because they started slowly, people
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bailed on them. Seattle's lost four out of their last
five games. They've got all sorts of injuries. Tyler Lockett,
no dk Metcalf offensive lineman Seattle in the last five games,
they're one in four. They have a defensive coach, they
can't get their offensive line, or they're running game right
this is a division rivalry game. I get a big
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edge at quarterback, a big edge at head coach, and
right now, a big edge in health. The Rams are
finally the healthier team in the game. That hasn't happened
all season. Rams win lay the one point twenty seven
to twenty three Los Angeles. Jmack, you gave me a
weird eye on that Cowboy game. I know it's a
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little bit of a flyer.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I can't give away everything, but we'll talk about it
in the final hour. Falcons cowbych Did you see the
Puka Nakua thing yesterday?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think he's gonna play. He had limited practice.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
If anybody's gonna have inside info would be you.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I like that.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
And also, hey, Lamar Jackson uh sick Wednesday and knee
injury Thursday.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Hasn't practiced this week. Remember when I said we're back
up there.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Remember gone. Remember when Deebo was in the hospital on
Monday and I said, young professional athletes with excellent medical care,
get healthy very fast. Lamar practiced today. If you think
the sniffles is going to keep Lamar Jackson out of
a football game, I'm telling you right now, Michael Jordan
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had a flu game and we know it was probably
the gray Goose. I'm with you. Okay, wasn't invented at
that time. We got to make sure Lamar is starting
before fire. He practiced today. He did, okay, good, all clear?
Got it will be up to ten in a minute,
and I and I believe Pooka will play.