November 4, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin details the biggest issues plaguing the Bears after they suffered another disappointing
The Cowboys are a complete mess and things need to change
Eagles HC Nick Sirianni continues to make decisions that hurt the team
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, it is a good Monday live in Los Angeles.
It's The Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may
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Jim Harbaugh, The Charger stops by today. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong,
top of hour number two. Well it's you get to
week nine, ten eleven and the truth comes out. You
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can't fool people. You see the better coaching, you see
the better quarterback play. It's a reality check. There's a
couple teams still out there that I think, are you know,
playing on the edge, like Philadelphia. But j Mack not
good for two big, powerful, hopeful brands, the Cowboys and
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the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, really bad for the Bears.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Really bad. So I'm not the smartest guy in the world.
But Matt Eberflus, the Bears head coach since he's been
in Chicago as the head coach. On the road, if
the game is played on Sunday, the Bears are on eighteen.
That doesn't feel promising to me. That doesn't sound good.
If it's the fall and winter, the Bears are on
the road and it's a Sunday, they're owing eighteen, I mean.
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And here's what's worse, all that money spent on offense
in the offseason. Yesterday against Arizona, Arizona's a good team,
not great, but a good team. Twenty nine to nine
Arizona one third down efficiency, terrible, yards per play half
of what Arizona got, yards per pass about half of
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what Arizona got. And this was my big fear that
the young defensive coach with a losing record that hadn't
proven himself, who passed on Cliff Kingsbury, who coached Caleb
Williams in college, wouldn't be able to elevate Caleb Williams.
And you're seeing that right now. Caleb Williams has regressed
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so badly. His passer rating is worse than Drake May
and the same as Daniel Jones. He's just got better
mobility than both and the mistakes are just endless. I mean,
come on, fourth quarter down by twenty you can't protect
Caleb Williams. Get him out of the game. Get him
out of the game. What are you doing? They didn't,
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So again a young defensive coach, at least get the
defense going right. Twenty six seconds left in half, a
third string running back peels off a fifty three yard
touchdown run. So they're starting to feel And this is
what happens with bad teams. What do they do well?
New Orleans Saints fired their today, Dennis Allen, What do
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they do well? And you're looking at Chicago and that's
my question. I'm not sure what the plan is and
what they can lay their feet at. And here's what's
really troubling. Bon Knicks lost yesterday. Denver didn't have the
players to beat Baltimore and Baltimore. But bo Nicks is growing.
Bow Knicks looks like a franchise quarterback. His improvement week
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one until now is evident. With Sean Payton Jaden Daniels,
I mean, he's just smooth, He's just a pro. He's
one of the top seven eight quarterbacks right now in
the league. It looks like with Cliff Kingsbury, who the
Bear should have hired Drake may yesterday. I know they lost,
but you had to feel really good if you were
a Patriot fan. With Drake Man, It's like, Okay, we
got our quarterback. There's gonna be some turbulence. It's gonna
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be some bumps. Two minute drill though, regulation you're like, yes,
I think this kid can play. That's what it looked
like to me. So bow Knicks, I see it. That's
a franchise guy, Jaden Daniels, that's a franchise star Drake
with very little to work with. Yeah, I like, I
like Drake may So. But and Caleb Williams looks lost
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and is regressing badly. So I was very skeptical on
the Bears when they had that three game winning streak.
It was bad teams. The Rams were down like six
starters on offense. Uh, but this yesterday there wasn't. I mean,
you got eight minutes into that game, forget it. And
here's the utter thing. They're now starting very poorly, like
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well coached teams generally, not always Rams started slowly yesterday,
but generally well coached teams. You know, first couple series
looked like they have their act together. And here's another
troubling part. After the game, Caleb Williams was acknowledging that
they still weren't over the Hail Mary loss to Washington.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think earlier on in the week, I think we
could have done better overall of bouncing back after that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I know it's a tough loss.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's tough regardless of you know who you are in
the facility, if you're out there making players or if
you're making decisions up top.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We just should be better.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Just move on quicker, Yeah, we gotta we gotta be
better and move off quicker.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We gotta have that one for our period at at
from Naval Hall.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That wasn't even subtle that he's not even like slow
playing it. That is a complete shot at the coaching staff.
We gotta get over it. Yeah, yeah, Dennis Allen fired today.
Defensive coach Robert solid defensive coach fired about a month ago.
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If the Bears ownership wasn't so cheap, I think Matt Eberflus.
The last two weeks they have looked completely disorganized, and
our biggest fears the Caleb Williams. They passed on Cliff Kingsbury.
I don't know why they did that. I'd heard Cliff
wanted to be part of the Caleb Williams story passed
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on him. Didn't want to pay the money. You know
who did? Washington, Washington, their new owner said I'll pay
for it. How's it working? Okay, Cowboys lost. Here's what's
troubling most of all. It's not just a record, but
it was a different kind of loss. Atlanta is a
finesse team, so I thought, Okay, Dak will be comfortable.
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Right like Gino Smith hot knife threw butter against Atlanta
in Atlanta. Dallas wasn't overpowered. We've watched them get overpowered
by the teams like the Lions or the Packers in
the playoffs, or the Ravens. We watch them get overpowered.
They were just unprepared. And Dak Prescott's been in this
league nine seasons. All these illegal motion penalties, false starts
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in crucial situations, nine different penalties. I mean, in the
third quarter the Cowboys, we're going to go for it
on a fourth and one, there's a penalty called too
many players on the field. What are we doing? What
are we doing? This wasn't getting overpowered. I thought Dallas
was gonna win this game, it was like, we're not
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really very efficient at what we do. For the record,
since Mike McCarthy took over the Cowboys as head coach,
always been an issue with Mike McCarthy. Teams lead the
NFL and penalties, Well, this team's not good enough to
overcome that. This is not a team that can go
in and get eight, nine, ten penalties a week. They
beat themselves. Dallas out rushed Atlanta, they did out past Atlanta.
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They had more total yards than Atlanta. They were plus
one in turnovers. Atlanta is a finesse team. Quarterbacks are
very comfortable and you don't have to be a football expert.
You're watching the coach throw a tablet. Too many yellow flags,
penalties and crucial situations. It's like Dallas won of they
won all the little battles, more yards, more rushing, and
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they lost the war. So this it just feels like
to me, Dallas right now is an unmade bed of
a franchise. The talent, the roster, the lack of leadership,
and they're locked in. I mean, some teams are bad
in this league and you're like, well, they'll get the
number one pick, They'll get a quarterback. I mean, somebody's
gonna get Shador Sanders at Colorado, maybe a cam Ward
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from Miami in college. Somebody, somebody's gonna get Sam Darnold
in the market. Like, you can turn things around in
this league. That's why it's so much more popular. One
of the many reasons. And the NBA or hockey or baseball.
I mean, you can go, you can you can swing
it from awful the Houston Texans of the playoffs in
one year. You can do Washington where you're a laughing
stock of the league. Now you may win your division.
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You can do that in the NFL. But Dallas because
of what they're paying DAC and because of Jerry Jones'
ego and vanity and his unwillingness to let other sharp
people in the building and make decisions over him, I
think they're trapped. So you don't have to be a
football expert. Just the penalties. The vibes around the Dallas
Cowboys are absolutely terrible right now. Jerry Jones, who's kind
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of gotten into a wandering stage just talking in circles,
was very emotional after the loss.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Really regret this for all road Dallas Cowboy fans. We'll
tell you this that I've been around.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I've seen Michael Irban tear up and prive when he
couldn't lose anybody because he's just recovering from niesard. Yet
his ass came back led a team to three Super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I know you can be there. If you're there, that
room's full of guys.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That can get it done.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I believe the coaches and all.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The good news for Dallas, though very hopeful. The facility
tours are booked solid. So if you've ever wanted to
watch a factory on fire, you go book the tours
in Dallas. They have the third worst point differential in
the NFC. Like you know, I said before the season,
I said, Philly and Washington are going to make the playoffs.
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Washington's going to be the surprise team. I said, Dallas,
you're gonna see a slight regression with the Cowboys, and
they may win nine or ten. They won't make the playoffs.
My bad, they may win six. It's a bad football team.
It's a poorly run team. It's from a quarterback perspective,
it's sort of mediocre. I mean, I saw Dak go
off and scramble yesterday and it was like he was
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laboring the entire time like this is a bad team
that is trapped behind an average ish quarterback with a
massive contract for the next four years and I do
not know how they dig their way out of it,
calling right wrong in forty five minutes from now. Yeah,
that was again, you don't have to be a football expert.
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Dak at one point was caught sing on camera we
suck as he was on the sidelines. That's what the
lip readers now, and they make their money doing that.
That's what they're saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's bad. Yeah,
that's it. Lip readers, got it right. He's saying, we
blanking suck.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
They do.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Football team. Jay Mack had a winning week in Blazing five.
I'm not sure I will say this. You called it
on the Chargers. That may have been your favorite game
of the weekend, and their coach, Jim Harbaugh is stopping
by the Shelta.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
I'm excited for Harbaugh. You know, we'll talk during the
break about Harbaugh and some hoops. Shall we say, let's
Jim Harbaugh is a community man.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Yeah, but very exciting weekend in the NFL column, Like
you said at the outset seven teams are now two
and seven.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There's a lot of garbage in this league right now.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
A lot of coaches about to get tossed free agentcy
not free agency, but the trade deadline is tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, there's gonna there's gonna be some sellers some.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Here's a good question, can Dallas sell anything Michaeh Parsons?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But he's not playing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
They don't have a lot of talent to sell.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I know they have a corner they could sell. They
have Michaeh Parsons. If Michael was playing and being, you know, viable,
I think you could move him. They need multiple draft picks.
They have to get in the first and second round
an elite running back. They've got to go get another receiver.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
They probably could use a good play caller as well.
Fourth and one end around to CD Lamb.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That was a great moment. I'm glad you brought that up.
So generally speaking, good football teams like Detroit San Francisco,
when you're on a fourth and one, you don't do deception.
You just give it to the guy you give it.
Philadelphia gives it to Saquon Barkley. Dereck Henry in both juds.
What the good teams do? The Cowboys on fourth and
one are doing a jet sweep, trying to fool a
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finesse defense. This defense is not you know, it's not
the Chiefs, it's not the Niners, it's not the young
you know, athletic rams or the best defenses. This is
one of the softest defenses in the league. And the
Cowboys on a fourth and one or go, okay, bring
out the tricks. What that tells you what they think
of their own personnel? Like they can't get a yard
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against an Atlanta team that has no pass rush.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
And the running back that the GM wanted, Ezekiel Elliott,
was left home because he's skipping out on meetings, being
late and he's checked out on this awful team.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Wow it is that was a disaster.
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Speaker 6 (13:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The Philadelphia Eagles are in a very unique spot in
the NFL. They're the only team that consistently wins this
year and you never really feel good about it. I
mean that that doesn't exist in the NFL. Right, you win,
You're happy. Oh for three on two point conversions, zero
for two on fourth down, passing on makeable field goals,
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constantly chasing points. They're like a day trader that's on
a bit of a hot streak, but you know it's
not sustainable. The roster's great, Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, David
Lee Roth and it jumping over people, I mean, young defense,
all sorts of twitch and speed and length. This game
is a blowout. It was twenty two nothing. Jacksonville was reeling,
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weren't competing. I mean I went and looked at time
of possession. It was like thirty eight minutes to twenty one.
Third down efficiency. The Eagles were brilliant. They were over
fifty percent. The Jags were terrible at three to ten
first downs dominant. You go look at the box score
of this game and it feels like it's forty five
to fourteen. Is at twenty two nothing, and all of
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a sudden, you look up and Trevor Lawrence is sitting
back in the pocket, thrown to the end zone and
they're gonna lead with about a minute and a half
left as the ball is caught. I mean that's Philadelphia.
There is a way in this sport to coach a
game A when you lead, and B when you lead
with a clearly better roster. Detroit did that yesterday. You
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just step on a team, You eat the clock. You
don't take risks. That was Detroit against green Bay, the
better team. That's what Philadelphia is doing. It's just crazy,
unnecessary risks when you have the better roster in a lead.
They're starting to win in spite of their head coach.
And again the Dice are rolling their way because they're
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so absurdly talented. They have a great general manager, Howie Roseman.
But this stuff doesn't last in the playoffs. Thank god
Sakuon Barkley's on the roster and Jalen Hurts last several weeks,
no mistakes, no reckless playing well Devonte Smith, and thank
god for the Jags who just get in their own way.
But every Eagles win, doesn't it feel like, even if
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you're an Eagles fan, they all come with asterisk. You're like, yeah,
we won, but and that doesn't exist in the NFL.
You just you win. If you're a road team, you
get in a plane, fly home, you celebrate. If you're
a home team and win. Well, we didn't play great,
but you know it's a double. You will go back
and stare at the film. Philadelphia is like, I mean,
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Nick Siriani, this is how good the roster is is
forty and nineteen. That is I think that's the best
winning percentage of any act of NFL coach right now.
And and three weeks ago, there was a feeling if
they went on kind of a bad streak, he'd be fired.
So a lot of risks unnecessary, Like you just got
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to know what you have, and when you have a
roster that's this gifted. The Saquon Barkley theft from the
New York Giants is insane. When Christian McCaffrey's not playing,
that's the best running back in the sport. It's it
is remarkable. I love watching Philadelphia play because they make
blowouts competitive, they make routes fascinating. Barkley is just an
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all time talent. But here's Nick Sirianni on his overly
aggressive play on calling two point conversions today.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
It didn't work, but you know that's that's the way
it goes. That's the hat I have to wear right there.
You know, when we get a fourth down and we
convert a fourth down. You know we we're not. You know,
it's nothing's really sad when we don't. You know, I
understand that there's going to be question.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, And when you have a much better team and
a much better roster and you really know you're the
superior team, there's a way to coach. I mean, analytics
are giving you little secrets on a way to coach
situational football. And there's also the big macro feel like
Detroit yesterday, we're better, we got a big lead. Green
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Bay's not playing great. Let's just get on a plane
and get home and fly out of this wet, raining
weather Philadelphia. That game should have never been remotely close.
J Mack with a news No, no, no, this is
the herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
All right, Colin, we'll start with the breaking news out
of New Orleans.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
About ninety minutes ago, the Saints announced that they have
fired head coach Dennis Allen after a weird loss to
the Panthers. I mean, Colin, that game was so strange.
It's not like the Saints turn the ball over. They
had one hundred and seventy five more yards. I only
was half watching this game, but so Carolina and Bryce
Young came through late.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, no, I braysch Young made a couple of nice plays,
made a nice throat to the back of the end zone.
But this was pretty predictable before the season. I predicted
Dennis Allen will be the first coach fired. But Whatody
Johnson of the Jets always screwing up the betting market.
But I just don't think I think he's over his head.
I think he's a coordinator, the defensive coordator for sure.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Special teams coordinator Darren Rizzy has been named the Inrum coach. Listen,
it's all ugly with Allen twenty six and fifty three
as a head coach. This is the first time since
ninety nine that the Saints have lost seven straight games.
And then there's the weirdness with like Alvin Kamara after
the game. I don't know if you heard it, he
was like insinua on the team's confident. We got this everywhere.
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This guy's confident.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
This guy and he like didn't mention the coach, which
was pretty obvious that he was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You had the former Saint receiver.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Michael Thomas, Okay, do you want to do a couple
of minutes on that real quick. So first of all,
why do we care what Michael Thomas says.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
He's a retired NFL receiver, hasn't played, and he's just
totally taking shots at Derek Carr, like out of pocket.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He barely played with Derek Carr.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, and he's a high maintenance wide receiver. I had
somebody inside the organization told me two years ago he
was the most difficult locker room personality that he had
ever seen in the league in thirty years. It was
so and it wasn't like it was it was just
his personality's difficult. So I don't take a ton from it,
but it is. You know, when players start being willing
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to criticize an NFL coach. This is not the NBA
where players have ultimate power players current former there's also
former players, usually no current players on a team, so
when they're taking shots, they're hearing stuff from guys currently
on the roster.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
That's possible.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Listen, we don't love Derek Carr as a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
That being said, like this idea that the Saints acquired
him and that was such a bad move, Like what
are your other options?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
There's not a lot of other good quarterbacks out there. Yeah,
and this idea that you can.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Just draft a guy, plug him in and you're gonna
be good. Like, I don't know, I don't think Derek
Car's the problem in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
If that makes it? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Like, yeah, I mean, Derek Carr's fine. You shouldn't go
in a seven game losing streak with Derek Carr, by
the way, he.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Missed a couple games. Rattler was in there and Jay Hayner.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It didn't look very good at it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No, like, this is not a good roster and Dennis
Allen was not a good coach.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, I'm not a big Derek Carr defender. But anyways,
let's move on to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Colin Wow man Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Baltimore just shredded Denver on Sunday. Lamar threw for two
hundred eighty yards three touchdowns, became the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
First player good defense.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
Well we'll get to that in a second. Became the
first player in NFL history to have four games with
a perfect passer rating. He passed Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,
Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger, who were the only other quarterbacks
to do it. Three times Colin This puts Lamar in
rarefied air.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But this is on brand for him. He just dominates
in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, I think he is. This idea that he's not
good from the pocket, Yeah, his first couple of years
he wasn't. I have been on this for three to
four years. He is an elite pocket quarterback. And the
truth is because of his style, linebackers are forced to
always be honest with him, so he may he force
his defenses more than any quarterback in the league. He
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forces linebacker play to never cheat. You can't go man
demand against them. You can't cheat against him. So stylistically,
he just changes the way you have to prepare. And
he is really he is. You got all that talent
athletically and now he's master of the pocket. He's something else.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, Ravens are good. So about this Broncos defense.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Uh, Baltimore average seven point three yards per play? No,
I watched, Yeah, thirteen and a half yards per pass.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes, they're not good.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Okay, I know they slowed down the Jets in the
rain and a bunch of other bad teams and bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't want to use the word fraud. That's a
little strong.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But they are out kicking their personnel. Like right now,
Denver is better coached than they are. Their roster would
lead you to believe, And I think bo Nix is
absolutely getting better. He had a couple drives in the game.
I'm like, he's a player. He's a franchise quarterback, not
as slick as Jaden Daniels, but he can play. But
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this team is still under a heavy burden of Russell
Wilson's contract and giving up all that draft capital to
get Russell Wilson. So they need another six or seven
draft picks and another free agent class and then I
think I think by next year you can make you
can have a fair evaluation of Denver. They are just
basically they're just moving the garbage off the pile now
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to get back to where they don't feel suffocated by
Russell Wilson's contract.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
It's like when you take over a company, right, you
got to purge all the bad contracts, the guys who
are doubling up work. I think next year they could
contend for a wild card spot Denver.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, I like what I see bo Nix is he
looks solid.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Did you see him Moss?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That guy in the end, he.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Is okay, he had a couple of runs. Dudes, athletic
and likes to run. No Sam Darnold. Last night, some
guys liked to run, probably more than they should. But
now Bonnicks is a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't want to do the MVP stuff, but Lamar
is now the favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, but sure should be.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Whoa Josh Allen second, Patrick Mahomes third, One Barkley third,
Jared goff is he.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, well, though they don't ask him to do much for.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What he does stuff, he's like perfect.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean, it's crazy. He had eighteen throw games.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Yeah, well, okay, let's do Lions final story is Detroit
and registering another victory. So I made a lot about
this as their first outdoor of the game of the season.
Remember last week and then it was the rain and
oh is not indoor football weather, and the Lions just
came out and just destroyed the Packers. This was a
dismemberment and showed that the Lions are I think clearly
the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think they're the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think this is there's an argument. I mean, we
thought bad weather was a lieab for Detroit. It was
a liability for Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Jordan Love couldn't control the ball, the snaps.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I mean, anyways, here's Jared Goff calling out the doubters,
including myself after the postgame.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
We're supposed to be the Dome team who you know
can't play outside. We're supposed to be the team that
you know it could only win one way, and I
think we've shown a handful of times we can win
the multiple ways. We're chameleons and whatever it takes to
win in whatever way.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, they're they're that's that's the best roster right now.
It's a younger version of San Francisco's roster. That's the
way I've been We've been saying this for weeks. Chiefs
Lions super Bowl feels almost inevitable. The way Kansas City
always is great in the big moments, and the way
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Detroit frankly doesn't even ask Jared Goff to do much.
I mean, they're winning, not despite their quarterback. They're winning
and they basically haven't down. They haven't shifted into second
gear for golf. They're asking him to throw like, yeah, well,
twenty two throws a game. I mean, they don't even
need to sniff the thirty pass.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
The two because they're blasting everybody.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
But that's a good number to bring up. So do
you remember that Tampa Bay loss in Week two? Jared
Goff came out and threw the ball fifty five times. Remember,
we were like, what what is this? Tampa had some
injured defensive backs, so they were like Loot's attack. They
clearly realized that was a terrible idea. Jared Goff has
not thrown the football within twenty five times in a
game since the Ya that's smart football, Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't even like, you know, there used to be
a record with Kobe Bryant. You know they would be
like if he scored over forty The Lakers actually didn't
have a great record. And I don't know what Patrick
Mahomes maybe breaks this, but I find most of the
time when you ask a quarterback to throw over forty
five times a game, Dak is like thirty eight. Dak's
numbers thirty eight. If he throws over thirty eighty loses.
(25:48):
Maybe he throws like under thirty seven and below. Before
this year he would win. So I don't think quarterbacks
were meant to be superman. I think you ask Josh
Allen and Lamar in moments to do that. But there's
a reason they got Dereck Henry in Baltimore. There's a
reason James Cooked the running back in Buffalo has been
so valuable. There's a reason the Chiefs miss Isaiah Pacheco,
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even the great quarterback, should be throwing about Max thirty
four to thirty six times a game. Max.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Yeah, we didn't get to Detroit's defense, which looked okay,
but Colin this week is the biggest game is Lions
and Texans on I believe it's Sunday Night football.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Have you seen a line for that? It's in Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I would guess Detroit favored by four.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think it's four and a half. But that is
a large number to be favored on the road against C. J.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Stroud, especially coming off a really emotional division game.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So do you want to lock in that for the
Blazing five this week? Get in front of that Detroit train.
That's risky.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Let me consider that under review.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
J Mack with the News, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So I was watching my guy, Sam Darnald. You know
the story. I thought he was going to be great
and then he wasn't. And unfortunately my audience, you know,
seems almost route against me. Well, now Sam Darnald is great.
He had three touchdown passes last night they beat the Colts.
It is not a very good college quarterback draft class.
I think Shadu or Sanders at Colorado's really special. But
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Sam Donald's going to be on the market. He'll be
the number one free agent quarterback because they got a kid,
JJ McCarthy they like. But you got a little bit
of everything with Sam last night. You got an ugly pick,
you got a fumble, you got another pick, super athletic,
made big throws. Kid was twenty eight to thirty four
with three touchdowns, only four total passes in the entire
game from Sam Donald. Somebody didn't catch. It was either
(27:47):
the Colts or the Vikings, and you kind of got
all of Sam Donald. A really bad early pick, a fumble,
and then that Jordan Addison play where he's running backwards.
I mean, he's not maybe Lamar or Josh Allen, but
he is one of the more athletic quarterbacks in a
long time. I mean, Sam's really good. Three straight seventy
percent completion games. Seven of his eight starts, he's had
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over one hundred passer rating. This is not a great
offensive line. They lost their left tackle. It's not a
team with a good run game. Aaron Jones way past
his prime. So there's no quarterbacks on the market. There's one,
maybe two out of the college draft. So Sam Darnold
is gonna fetch the Vikings something and you know, or
he's a free agent. It's a one year deal, so
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he'll go and make some money. I like Sam a lot.
I think I've been validated. That's not what this show
is about. But I think he's really, really, really good,
and he's got excellent elite traits. He's big, he's coachable,
he moves well, he's got a good enough arm. They've
sort of cleaned up his mechanics. But and again, this
is not the Vikings now because they're great left tackles out,
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they're not a great offensive line. PFF ranks him twenty second.
They don't run the football with conviction like a Detroit does.
Sam Donald is making this team. It's a it's a
head coach quarterback story with some nice receivers. So I'm
happy for Sam Donald. Somebody's gonna get a good quarterback.
(29:12):
But this, this is the story of a quarterback who
basically had a bunch of talent. Caleb Williams, are you
watching wrong? Coach went to bad cultures? And there's like
three or four quarterbacks in my life. L Way Mahomes.
Maybe you know a Josh Allen or a Lamar Jackson
(29:33):
who are probably talented enough to overcome a lot of
roadblocks in Sam Donald's not. But I gotta tell you,
and I thought Chris Collinsworth was right on this even
after the bad pick. This is a team that has
a lot of confidence in Donald, and it's hard not
to I mean, it's it's it's I'm looking at those numbers.
I'm watching him. He is an absolute playmaker, no question.
(29:55):
This is what he looked like in college. And he
didn't have a great college coach. So when you bail
on people, you gotta be careful because there were there
were elite traits here and Kevin O'Connell, a terrific young coach,
on his confidence with Sam.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
I'm sure Sam will be hard on himself about those
two interceptions, but I'm going to stay aggressive with him
because I do think my confidence in him, which is genuine,
it's real. It is, like I said, a winning edge
for us moving forward.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, fun stuff, Sam Darnold, Way to go, Jim Harbaugh
in a couple of hours from now, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong.
Top of Next Hour with Matt Hasselbeck.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
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Speaker 3 (30:38):
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Speaker 9 (30:39):
One of the college football breakout Stars, running back Caleb Johnson,
leads the iowah Hawk Gyes into the Rose Bowl for
a showdown against Ucla. It all kicks off Friday at
nine eastern six Pacific on Fox Ucla.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I watched Nebraska give Ohio State everything they could handle
in Columbus, I think it was in Columbus. And then
I watch Ucla hammer Nebraska. Good for Ucla, Like that
was the surprise game of the weekend for me. So
the Rams beat the Seahawks yesterday. It was weird. It
was not well officiated both sides. Seahawks got hosed in
(31:14):
a couple Puka's ejection.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I didn't think it was well officiated. I thought it
got out of hand. But this was just about great
coach Sean McVay, great quarterback Matt Stafford, and a really
good rookie safety for the La Rams. They willed their
way to win, couldn't run the ball, ugly first half,
special teams blunder Puka gets ejected. There was a dozen
(31:41):
reasons to lose this game. They couldn't run the football,
which really surprised me. But sometimes in the NFL, the
answer is just as simple as yeah, we have a
great coach, great quarterback, and one great defensive player making plays,
and we're really good in the big moments. It had
a Kansas City Chiefs feel to it. We're in the
very high leverage moments, like in the red zone, third
and one, fourth and one. The Rams had the better coach,
(32:04):
the Rams had the better quarterback. The Rams made fewer mistakes.
Now I'm not saying they're the Kansas City Chiefs, but
the Chiefs are about, you know, one or two weapons,
great quarterback, good old line, great coach, and one or
two defensive players making a big play, and they win
the big moments. They don't know what's win the entire game,
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and the Rams first half was one of their worst
halfs of the season, they couldn't do anything right, but
over the course of a game, their red zone defense
was a plus. They stuffed him on a third and
one and a fourth and one in overtime, and they
were tremendous on big moments, even Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford
was not great in the entire game, but in overtime
he had a perfect passer rating. He was three for
(32:46):
three and according to Elias Sports, Matt Stafford's game winning
touchdown thirteenth career game winning pass in the final two
minutes of the fourth quarter overtime that broke a tie
with Dan Marino, second most ever since the NFL merger
in nineteen seventy with Tom Brady. So I've said this before.
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If you take if you take Mahomes out of the league,
and maybe Lamar and maybe Josh Allen, who do you
want minute thirty minute forty left, high leverage situation. He
didn't even have his number one receiver. Their offensive line
still has injuries on the interior. They've got rookies and
backups all over the interior of their offensive line. And
(33:29):
here was Sean McVeigh on the gutty win.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What a unique, weird game.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
That was what a job by our group to be
able to come away with the win.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I was really proud of.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
The way that we came out in the second half.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They had all the momentum.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
We did a lot of things to beat ourselves. You're
down thirteen to three, and we found a way to
be able to get it tied up after a couple
drives at peace. Like you guys have heard me say,
there's no style points in this league. I think we
want to do some things a lot cleaner. There's gonna
be a lot of things that we can learn from.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah. And by the way, second draft in a row
for the MS, you can put that up their draft picks.
On defense, they have a safety from Tennessee that was undrafted.
He had another interception. Kitchens, the kid from Miami, the
safety Jared Verse, unblockable. Second draft in a row. They
got rid of Aaron Donald And I told you they're
(34:19):
going to be fine up front. They have really concentrated
the last two years on defense in the draft and
they have yet to miss on a defensive player. They've
hit on all of their defensive players and now they
got a safety out of Tennessee who was undrafted. Who's
become a leader on the back end. All right, Detroit
green Bay. I thought that was going to be really good,
(34:41):
and it was almost boring.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I like Green Bay and I really like Jordan Love.
But he looked young. They looked young. He is young.
They are young, and they got humbled yesterday. It felt
like big brother showing little brother how it's done. And
Jordan Love is loose. I've always said he's more far
than Rogers. He's just loose. And there were passes yesterday
(35:06):
that should have never ever left his hand. And you
can make those mistakes against the Carolinas and maybe the Bears,
you can't make them against Detroit. So the Packers were
really sloppy, and they usually aren't. They had ten penalties,
they were one for four in the red zone, you know.
And what was interesting is that Detroit and I thought
(35:27):
this was a real I like Green Bay in this game.
Detroit a dome team finally going to play outside. We
looked up the weather. The weather was going to be
a mess, and the Lions looked unfazed by it, and
the Packers looked like they'd never played in rain before.
So it was twenty four to three at one point,
and it felt worse. They're not even asking Jared Goff
(35:49):
to do much. That's how good Detroit is. So green
Bay had some big plays and some big moments, but
they just they were uneven. They were loose. And I've
said this, I don't know if Green Bay feels like
they're a super Bowl team. I think in the NFL
there are steps to this stuff. There are like last year,
green Bay hits on all these young receivers and tight ends.
(36:11):
You're like, they're exciting, and you're like, they're kind of good.
And then this year it's like they're still young and exciting,
but I think they're really good and maybe they could
get to a conference championship. And then you watch yesterday
and you're like, yeah, yeah, they're young, they're loose, they're sloppy.
You know, weather wasn't great, but Detroit handled it fine.
And here's Dan Campbell after.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
We're built for this man, and it doesn't matter. And
just because we play indoors, it doesn't matter. Men. We
can play anywhere. We can play in the snow and
play in the rain, play in the mud. That's just
such and were built to win.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, it's Kirby Joseph with that pick got him a
big lead. Jamc be honest about I thought this was
gonna be a great game. I think we both thought
green Bay at home, underdog rival game. But it was,
I mean it was really quickly. Detroit's like we'd different.
We're a year to two ahead of you. We've said
this before. Niners have the best NFC roster or Philly.
(37:06):
Detroit has the best NFC roster that's not quite established
but maybe now established, like Amaran Saint Brown hasn't been
around as like long ago, George Kittle, A lot of
the Niners great players are older, the Kittles and Christian
McCaffrey and Trent Williams. I think Detroit's got is San Francisco,
(37:27):
but in their prime. There were a couple of holes
in this game when Brady was like, look at the
size of these holes for Jamiir Gibbs to run through,
and I'm talking eight feet wide. I mean, Panae Sewel
is pushing people out of the television picture. They're just different.
Detroit is just physically different than everybody else in the
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NFC North.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
So the only reason like I picked Packers and then
for this contest, I do for Vegas. I backed off
when I saw Jordan love Is like gonna start. I'm
like that just I didn't love that, and he would
you agree? He did not look close to one hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
No, he just and I thought everything gripping the ball,
the weather a slight limp. And I think sometimes when
you're not one hundred percent, you're pressing, you're trying to
play harder because you don't you know, you're not quite there.
And I just it just unraveled.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Do you think they should have considered going to Malik Willis?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
If I have Jordan Love, I'd go with him, But
I don't think the quarterback would have mattered.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yea, I see.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm all in on the floor.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I think he's a great coach, one of the best
six in the league. When I saw this weather, I
was like, why don't they just turn this into a
ground and pound game with Malik Willis? You got a
good run game with Jacobs. The Detroit Lions defense is
not outstanding, Collin, we would.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Agree on that, right, Well, yeah, it's not. It's there's
two teams in this league, Baltimore and Detroit. They're excellent,
and in both instances, you don't trust the defense. And
then there's a team right now, Kansas City that is
excellent at winning games. I totally trust their defense, and
I also trust Mahomes and Candy Reid. So in this
league right now, Like yesterday, I watched Buffalo in Miami,
(39:01):
and my take is I should have taken Miami. My
take is they're still part of me. The dozen trust
Buffalo in a big spot like they won, and I
was like, okay, Tua ate them up. Tua was almost.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Perfect, had nothing deep down the field.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well, I mean, Charlie's well, I mean you're going to
give you that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I'm fine, we'll let you go. But the the builds
were surprised I.
Speaker 9 (39:21):
Think by the Miami run game eight Chan looked good,
but Miami is Miami good.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I saw a stat.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
They're four and ten in their last fourteen games. That's
almost a full season of data.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I don't think they're I think they're situationally good. Tua's playing,
it's at home. It's a five hundred team or worse
than I think. And that's that's about a third of
the league.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I thought that last weekend they lost Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay, so like Arizona may be better than everybody. To
give them credit for Arizona, that game with Chicago wasn't
close ever, I mean early well, I think Arizona's pretty good.
They got some pretty good players. Hour two next
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Jim Harbaugh, The Charger stops by today. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong,
top of hour number two. Well it's you get to
week nine, ten eleven and the truth comes out. You
(00:49):
can't fool people. You see the better coaching, you see
the better quarterback play. It's a reality check. There's a
couple teams still out there that I think, are you know,
playing on the edge, like Philadelphia. But j Mack not
good for two big, powerful, hopeful brands, the Cowboys and
(01:09):
the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, really bad for the Bears.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Really bad. So I'm not the smartest guy in the world.
But Matt Eberflus, the Bears head coach since he's been
in Chicago as the head coach. On the road, if
the game is played on Sunday, the Bears are on eighteen.
That doesn't feel promising to me. That doesn't sound good.
If it's the fall and winter, the Bears are on
the road and it's a Sunday, they're owing eighteen, I mean.
(01:36):
And here's what's worse, all that money spent on offense
in the offseason. Yesterday against Arizona, Arizona's a good team,
not great, but a good team. Twenty nine to nine
Arizona one third down efficiency, terrible, yards per play half
of what Arizona got, yards per pass about half of
(01:56):
what Arizona got. And this was my big fear that
the young defensive coach with a losing record that hadn't
proven himself, who passed on Cliff Kingsbury, who coached Caleb
Williams in college, wouldn't be able to elevate Caleb Williams.
And you're seeing that right now. Caleb Williams has regressed
(02:18):
so badly. His passer rating is worse than Drake May
and the same as Daniel Jones. He's just got better
mobility than both and the mistakes are just endless. I mean,
come on, fourth quarter down by twenty you can't protect
Caleb Williams. Get him out of the game. Get him
out of the game. What are you doing? They didn't,
(02:39):
So again a young defensive coach, at least get the
defense going right. Twenty six seconds left in half, a
third string running back peels off a fifty three yard
touchdown run. So they're starting to feel And this is
what happens with bad teams. What do they do well?
New Orleans Saints fired their today, Dennis Allen, What do
(03:01):
they do well? And you're looking at Chicago and that's
my question. I'm not sure what the plan is and
what they can lay their feet at. And here's what's
really troubling. Bon Knicks lost yesterday. Denver didn't have the
players to beat Baltimore and Baltimore. But bo Nicks is growing.
Bow Knicks looks like a franchise quarterback. His improvement week
(03:23):
one until now is evident. With Sean Payton Jaden Daniels,
I mean, he's just smooth, He's just a pro. He's
one of the top seven eight quarterbacks right now in
the league. It looks like with Cliff Kingsbury, who the
Bear should have hired Drake may yesterday. I know they lost,
but you had to feel really good if you were
a Patriot fan. With Drake Man, It's like, Okay, we
got our quarterback. There's gonna be some turbulence. It's gonna
(03:46):
be some bumps. Two minute drill though, regulation you're like, yes,
I think this kid can play. That's what it looked
like to me. So bow Knicks, I see it. That's
a franchise guy, Jaden Daniels, that's a franchise star Drake
with very little to work with. Yeah, I like, I
like Drake may So. But and Caleb Williams looks lost
(04:10):
and is regressing badly. So I was very skeptical on
the Bears when they had that three game winning streak.
It was bad teams. The Rams were down like six
starters on offense. Uh, but this yesterday there wasn't. I mean,
you got eight minutes into that game, forget it. And
here's the utter thing. They're now starting very poorly, like
(04:32):
well coached teams generally, not always Rams started slowly yesterday,
but generally well coached teams. You know, first couple series
looked like they have their act together. And here's another
troubling part. After the game, Caleb Williams was acknowledging that
they still weren't over the Hail Mary loss to Washington.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think earlier on in the week, I think we
could have done better overall of bouncing back after that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I know it's a tough loss.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's tough regardless of you know who you are in
the facility, if you're out there making players or if
you're making decisions up top.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We just should be better.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Just move on quicker, Yeah, we gotta we gotta be
better and move off quicker.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We gotta have that one for our period at at
from Naval Hall.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That wasn't even subtle that he's not even like slow
playing it. That is a complete shot at the coaching staff.
We gotta get over it. Yeah, yeah, Dennis Allen fired today.
Defensive coach Robert solid defensive coach fired about a month ago.
(05:44):
If the Bears ownership wasn't so cheap, I think Matt Eberflus.
The last two weeks they have looked completely disorganized, and
our biggest fears the Caleb Williams. They passed on Cliff Kingsbury.
I don't know why they did that. I'd heard Cliff
wanted to be part of the Caleb Williams story passed
(06:06):
on him. Didn't want to pay the money. You know
who did? Washington, Washington, their new owner said I'll pay
for it. How's it working? Okay, Cowboys lost. Here's what's
troubling most of all. It's not just a record, but
it was a different kind of loss. Atlanta is a
finesse team, so I thought, Okay, Dak will be comfortable.
(06:27):
Right like Gino Smith hot knife threw butter against Atlanta
in Atlanta. Dallas wasn't overpowered. We've watched them get overpowered
by the teams like the Lions or the Packers in
the playoffs, or the Ravens. We watch them get overpowered.
They were just unprepared. And Dak Prescott's been in this
league nine seasons. All these illegal motion penalties, false starts
(06:51):
in crucial situations, nine different penalties. I mean, in the
third quarter the Cowboys, we're going to go for it
on a fourth and one, there's a penalty called too
many players on the field. What are we doing? What
are we doing? This wasn't getting overpowered. I thought Dallas
was gonna win this game, it was like, we're not
(07:12):
really very efficient at what we do. For the record,
since Mike McCarthy took over the Cowboys as head coach,
always been an issue with Mike McCarthy. Teams lead the
NFL and penalties, Well, this team's not good enough to
overcome that. This is not a team that can go
in and get eight, nine, ten penalties a week. They
beat themselves. Dallas out rushed Atlanta, they did out past Atlanta.
(07:35):
They had more total yards than Atlanta. They were plus
one in turnovers. Atlanta is a finesse team. Quarterbacks are
very comfortable and you don't have to be a football expert.
You're watching the coach throw a tablet. Too many yellow flags,
penalties and crucial situations. It's like Dallas won of they
won all the little battles, more yards, more rushing, and
(08:00):
they lost the war. So this it just feels like
to me, Dallas right now is an unmade bed of
a franchise. The talent, the roster, the lack of leadership,
and they're locked in. I mean, some teams are bad
in this league and you're like, well, they'll get the
number one pick, They'll get a quarterback. I mean, somebody's
gonna get Shador Sanders at Colorado, maybe a cam Ward
(08:24):
from Miami in college. Somebody, somebody's gonna get Sam Darnold
in the market. Like, you can turn things around in
this league. That's why it's so much more popular. One
of the many reasons. And the NBA or hockey or baseball.
I mean, you can go, you can you can swing
it from awful the Houston Texans of the playoffs in
one year. You can do Washington where you're a laughing
stock of the league. Now you may win your division.
(08:45):
You can do that in the NFL. But Dallas because
of what they're paying DAC and because of Jerry Jones'
ego and vanity and his unwillingness to let other sharp
people in the building and make decisions over him, I
think they're trapped. So you don't have to be a
football expert. Just the penalties. The vibes around the Dallas
Cowboys are absolutely terrible right now. Jerry Jones, who's kind
(09:07):
of gotten into a wandering stage just talking in circles,
was very emotional after the loss.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Really regret this for all road Dallas Cowboy fans. We'll
tell you this that I've been around.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
I've seen Michael Irban tear up and prive when he
couldn't lose anybody because he's just recovering from niesard. Yet
his ass came back led a team to three Super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I know you can be there. If you're there, that
room's full of guys.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
That can get it done.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I believe the coaches and all.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The good news for Dallas, though very hopeful. The facility
tours are booked solid. So if you've ever wanted to
watch a factory on fire, you go book the tours
in Dallas. They have the third worst point differential in
the NFC. Like you know, I said before the season,
I said, Philly and Washington are going to make the playoffs.
(10:00):
Washington's going to be the surprise team. I said, Dallas,
you're gonna see a slight regression with the Cowboys, and
they may win nine or ten. They won't make the playoffs.
My bad, they may win six. It's a bad football team.
It's a poorly run team. It's from a quarterback perspective,
it's sort of mediocre. I mean, I saw Dak go
off and scramble yesterday and it was like he was
(10:21):
laboring the entire time like this is a bad team
that is trapped behind an average ish quarterback with a
massive contract for the next four years and I do
not know how they dig their way out of it,
calling right wrong in forty five minutes from now. Yeah,
that was again, you don't have to be a football expert.
(10:42):
Dak at one point was caught sing on camera we
suck as he was on the sidelines. That's what the
lip readers now, and they make their money doing that.
That's what they're saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's bad. Yeah,
that's it. Lip readers, got it right. He's saying, we
blanking suck.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
They do.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Football team. Jay Mack had a winning week in Blazing five.
I'm not sure I will say this. You called it
on the Chargers. That may have been your favorite game
of the weekend, and their coach, Jim Harbaugh is stopping
by the Shelta.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
I'm excited for Harbaugh. You know, we'll talk during the
break about Harbaugh and some hoops. Shall we say, let's
Jim Harbaugh is a community man.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Yeah, but very exciting weekend in the NFL column, Like
you said at the outset seven teams are now two
and seven.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
There's a lot of garbage in this league right now.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
A lot of coaches about to get tossed free agentcy
not free agency, but the trade deadline is tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, there's gonna there's gonna be some sellers some.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Here's a good question, can Dallas sell anything Michaeh Parsons?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
But he's not playing.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
They don't have a lot of talent to sell.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I know they have a corner they could sell. They
have Michaeh Parsons. If Michael was playing and being, you know, viable,
I think you could move him. They need multiple draft picks.
They have to get in the first and second round
an elite running back. They've got to go get another receiver.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
They probably could use a good play caller as well.
Fourth and one end around to CD Lamb.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That was a great moment. I'm glad you brought that up.
So generally speaking, good football teams like Detroit San Francisco,
when you're on a fourth and one, you don't do deception.
You just give it to the guy you give it.
Philadelphia gives it to Saquon Barkley. Dereck Henry in both juds.
What the good teams do? The Cowboys on fourth and
one are doing a jet sweep, trying to fool a
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finesse defense. This defense is not you know, it's not
the Chiefs, it's not the Niners, it's not the young
you know, athletic rams or the best defenses. This is
one of the softest defenses in the league. And the
Cowboys on a fourth and one or go, okay, bring
out the tricks. What that tells you what they think
of their own personnel? Like they can't get a yard
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against an Atlanta team that has no pass rush.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
And the running back that the GM wanted, Ezekiel Elliott,
was left home because he's skipping out on meetings, being
late and he's checked out on this awful team.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Wow it is that was a disaster.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
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Speaker 6 (13:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The Philadelphia Eagles are in a very unique spot in
the NFL. They're the only team that consistently wins this
year and you never really feel good about it. I
mean that that doesn't exist in the NFL. Right, you win,
You're happy. Oh for three on two point conversions, zero
for two on fourth down, passing on makeable field goals,
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constantly chasing points. They're like a day trader that's on
a bit of a hot streak, but you know it's
not sustainable. The roster's great, Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, David
Lee Roth and it jumping over people, I mean, young defense,
all sorts of twitch and speed and length. This game
is a blowout. It was twenty two nothing. Jacksonville was reeling,
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weren't competing. I mean I went and looked at time
of possession. It was like thirty eight minutes to twenty one.
Third down efficiency. The Eagles were brilliant. They were over
fifty percent. The Jags were terrible at three to ten
first downs dominant. You go look at the box score
of this game and it feels like it's forty five
to fourteen. Is at twenty two nothing, and all of
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a sudden, you look up and Trevor Lawrence is sitting
back in the pocket, thrown to the end zone and
they're gonna lead with about a minute and a half
left as the ball is caught. I mean that's Philadelphia.
There is a way in this sport to coach a
game A when you lead, and B when you lead
with a clearly better roster. Detroit did that yesterday. You
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just step on a team, You eat the clock. You
don't take risks. That was Detroit against green Bay, the
better team. That's what Philadelphia is doing. It's just crazy,
unnecessary risks when you have the better roster in a lead.
They're starting to win in spite of their head coach.
And again the Dice are rolling their way because they're
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so absurdly talented. They have a great general manager, Howie Roseman.
But this stuff doesn't last in the playoffs. Thank god
Sakuon Barkley's on the roster and Jalen Hurts last several weeks,
no mistakes, no reckless playing well Devonte Smith, and thank
god for the Jags who just get in their own way.
But every Eagles win, doesn't it feel like, even if
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you're an Eagles fan, they all come with asterisk. You're like, yeah,
we won, but and that doesn't exist in the NFL.
You just you win. If you're a road team, you
get in a plane, fly home, you celebrate. If you're
a home team and win. Well, we didn't play great,
but you know it's a double. You will go back
and stare at the film. Philadelphia is like, I mean,
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Nick Siriani, this is how good the roster is is
forty and nineteen. That is I think that's the best
winning percentage of any act of NFL coach right now.
And and three weeks ago, there was a feeling if
they went on kind of a bad streak, he'd be fired.
So a lot of risks unnecessary, Like you just got
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to know what you have, and when you have a
roster that's this gifted. The Saquon Barkley theft from the
New York Giants is insane. When Christian McCaffrey's not playing,
that's the best running back in the sport. It's it
is remarkable. I love watching Philadelphia play because they make
blowouts competitive, they make routes fascinating. Barkley is just an
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all time talent. But here's Nick Sirianni on his overly
aggressive play on calling two point conversions today.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
It didn't work, but you know that's that's the way
it goes. That's the hat I have to wear right there.
You know, when we get a fourth down and we
convert a fourth down. You know we we're not. You know,
it's nothing's really sad when we don't. You know, I
understand that there's going to be question.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yes, And when you have a much better team and
a much better roster and you really know you're the
superior team, there's a way to coach. I mean, analytics
are giving you little secrets on a way to coach
situational football. And there's also the big macro feel like
Detroit yesterday, we're better, we got a big lead. Green
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Bay's not playing great. Let's just get on a plane
and get home and fly out of this wet, raining
weather Philadelphia. That game should have never been remotely close.
J Mack with a news No, no, no, this is
the herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
All right, Colin, we'll start with the breaking news out
of New Orleans.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
About ninety minutes ago, the Saints announced that they have
fired head coach Dennis Allen after a weird loss to
the Panthers. I mean, Colin, that game was so strange.
It's not like the Saints turn the ball over. They
had one hundred and seventy five more yards. I only
was half watching this game, but so Carolina and Bryce
Young came through late.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, no, I braysch Young made a couple of nice plays,
made a nice throat to the back of the end zone.
But this was pretty predictable before the season. I predicted
Dennis Allen will be the first coach fired. But Whatody
Johnson of the Jets always screwing up the betting market.
But I just don't think I think he's over his head.
I think he's a coordinator, the defensive coordator for sure.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Special teams coordinator Darren Rizzy has been named the Inrum coach. Listen,
it's all ugly with Allen twenty six and fifty three
as a head coach. This is the first time since
ninety nine that the Saints have lost seven straight games.
And then there's the weirdness with like Alvin Kamara after
the game. I don't know if you heard it, he
was like insinua on the team's confident. We got this everywhere.
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This guy's confident.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
This guy and he like didn't mention the coach, which
was pretty obvious that he was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You had the former Saint receiver.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Michael Thomas, Okay, do you want to do a couple
of minutes on that real quick. So first of all,
why do we care what Michael Thomas says.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
He's a retired NFL receiver, hasn't played, and he's just
totally taking shots at Derek Carr, like out of pocket.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
He barely played with Derek Carr.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, and he's a high maintenance wide receiver. I had
somebody inside the organization told me two years ago he
was the most difficult locker room personality that he had
ever seen in the league in thirty years. It was
so and it wasn't like it was it was just
his personality's difficult. So I don't take a ton from it,
but it is. You know, when players start being willing
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to criticize an NFL coach. This is not the NBA
where players have ultimate power players current former there's also
former players, usually no current players on a team, so
when they're taking shots, they're hearing stuff from guys currently
on the roster.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
That's possible.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Listen, we don't love Derek Carr as a quarterback.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
That being said, like this idea that the Saints acquired
him and that was such a bad move, Like what
are your other options?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
There's not a lot of other good quarterbacks out there. Yeah,
and this idea that you can.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Just draft a guy, plug him in and you're gonna
be good. Like, I don't know, I don't think Derek
Car's the problem in New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
If that makes it? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Like, yeah, I mean, Derek Carr's fine. You shouldn't go
in a seven game losing streak with Derek Carr, by
the way, he.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Missed a couple games. Rattler was in there and Jay Hayner.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
It didn't look very good at it.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No, like, this is not a good roster and Dennis
Allen was not a good coach.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean, I'm not a big Derek Carr defender. But anyways,
let's move on to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Colin Wow man Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Baltimore just shredded Denver on Sunday. Lamar threw for two
hundred eighty yards three touchdowns, became the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
First player good defense.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
Well we'll get to that in a second. Became the
first player in NFL history to have four games with
a perfect passer rating. He passed Peyton Manning, Tom Brady,
Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger, who were the only other quarterbacks
to do it. Three times Colin This puts Lamar in
rarefied air.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But this is on brand for him. He just dominates
in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, I think he is. This idea that he's not
good from the pocket, Yeah, his first couple of years
he wasn't. I have been on this for three to
four years. He is an elite pocket quarterback. And the
truth is because of his style, linebackers are forced to
always be honest with him, so he may he force
his defenses more than any quarterback in the league. He
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forces linebacker play to never cheat. You can't go man
demand against them. You can't cheat against him. So stylistically,
he just changes the way you have to prepare. And
he is really he is. You got all that talent
athletically and now he's master of the pocket. He's something else.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, Ravens are good. So about this Broncos defense.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Uh, Baltimore average seven point three yards per play? No,
I watched, Yeah, thirteen and a half yards per pass.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes, they're not good.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Okay, I know they slowed down the Jets in the
rain and a bunch of other bad teams and bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I don't want to use the word fraud. That's a
little strong.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But they are out kicking their personnel. Like right now,
Denver is better coached than they are. Their roster would
lead you to believe, And I think bo Nix is
absolutely getting better. He had a couple drives in the game.
I'm like, he's a player. He's a franchise quarterback, not
as slick as Jaden Daniels, but he can play. But
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this team is still under a heavy burden of Russell
Wilson's contract and giving up all that draft capital to
get Russell Wilson. So they need another six or seven
draft picks and another free agent class and then I
think I think by next year you can make you
can have a fair evaluation of Denver. They are just
basically they're just moving the garbage off the pile now
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to get back to where they don't feel suffocated by
Russell Wilson's contract.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
It's like when you take over a company, right, you
got to purge all the bad contracts, the guys who
are doubling up work. I think next year they could
contend for a wild card spot Denver.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, I like what I see bo Nix is he
looks solid.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Did you see him Moss?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That guy in the end, he.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Is okay, he had a couple of runs. Dudes, athletic
and likes to run. No Sam Darnold. Last night, some
guys liked to run, probably more than they should. But
now Bonnicks is a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't want to do the MVP stuff, but Lamar
is now the favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, but sure should be.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Whoa Josh Allen second, Patrick Mahomes third, One Barkley third,
Jared goff is he.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, well, though they don't ask him to do much for.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What he does stuff, he's like perfect.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I mean, it's crazy. He had eighteen throw games.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Yeah, well, okay, let's do Lions final story is Detroit
and registering another victory. So I made a lot about
this as their first outdoor of the game of the season.
Remember last week and then it was the rain and
oh is not indoor football weather, and the Lions just
came out and just destroyed the Packers. This was a
dismemberment and showed that the Lions are I think clearly
the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I think they're the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think this is there's an argument. I mean, we
thought bad weather was a lieab for Detroit. It was
a liability for Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Jordan Love couldn't control the ball, the snaps.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
I mean, anyways, here's Jared Goff calling out the doubters,
including myself after the postgame.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
We're supposed to be the Dome team who you know
can't play outside. We're supposed to be the team that
you know it could only win one way, and I
think we've shown a handful of times we can win
the multiple ways. We're chameleons and whatever it takes to
win in whatever way.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, they're they're that's that's the best roster right now.
It's a younger version of San Francisco's roster. That's the
way I've been We've been saying this for weeks. Chiefs
Lions super Bowl feels almost inevitable. The way Kansas City
always is great in the big moments, and the way
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Detroit frankly doesn't even ask Jared Goff to do much.
I mean, they're winning, not despite their quarterback. They're winning
and they basically haven't down. They haven't shifted into second
gear for golf. They're asking him to throw like, yeah, well,
twenty two throws a game. I mean, they don't even
need to sniff the thirty pass.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
The two because they're blasting everybody.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
But that's a good number to bring up. So do
you remember that Tampa Bay loss in Week two? Jared
Goff came out and threw the ball fifty five times. Remember,
we were like, what what is this? Tampa had some
injured defensive backs, so they were like Loot's attack. They
clearly realized that was a terrible idea. Jared Goff has
not thrown the football within twenty five times in a
game since the Ya that's smart football, Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't even like, you know, there used to be
a record with Kobe Bryant. You know they would be
like if he scored over forty The Lakers actually didn't
have a great record. And I don't know what Patrick
Mahomes maybe breaks this, but I find most of the
time when you ask a quarterback to throw over forty
five times a game, Dak is like thirty eight. Dak's
numbers thirty eight. If he throws over thirty eighty loses.
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Maybe he throws like under thirty seven and below. Before
this year he would win. So I don't think quarterbacks
were meant to be superman. I think you ask Josh
Allen and Lamar in moments to do that. But there's
a reason they got Dereck Henry in Baltimore. There's a
reason James Cooked the running back in Buffalo has been
so valuable. There's a reason the Chiefs miss Isaiah Pacheco,
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even the great quarterback, should be throwing about Max thirty
four to thirty six times a game. Max.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Yeah, we didn't get to Detroit's defense, which looked okay,
but Colin this week is the biggest game is Lions
and Texans on I believe it's Sunday Night football.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Have you seen a line for that? It's in Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I would guess Detroit favored by four.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think it's four and a half. But that is
a large number to be favored on the road against C. J.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Stroud, especially coming off a really emotional division game.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So do you want to lock in that for the
Blazing five this week? Get in front of that Detroit train.
That's risky.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Let me consider that under review.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
J Mack with the News, Well that's the news, and
thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So I was watching my guy, Sam Darnald. You know
the story. I thought he was going to be great
and then he wasn't. And unfortunately my audience, you know,
seems almost route against me. Well, now Sam Darnald is great.
He had three touchdown passes last night they beat the Colts.
It is not a very good college quarterback draft class.
I think Shadu or Sanders at Colorado's really special. But
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Sam Donald's going to be on the market. He'll be
the number one free agent quarterback because they got a kid,
JJ McCarthy they like. But you got a little bit
of everything with Sam last night. You got an ugly pick,
you got a fumble, you got another pick, super athletic,
made big throws. Kid was twenty eight to thirty four
with three touchdowns, only four total passes in the entire
game from Sam Donald. Somebody didn't catch. It was either
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the Colts or the Vikings, and you kind of got
all of Sam Donald. A really bad early pick, a fumble,
and then that Jordan Addison play where he's running backwards.
I mean, he's not maybe Lamar or Josh Allen, but
he is one of the more athletic quarterbacks in a
long time. I mean, Sam's really good. Three straight seventy
percent completion games. Seven of his eight starts, he's had
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over one hundred passer rating. This is not a great
offensive line. They lost their left tackle. It's not a
team with a good run game. Aaron Jones way past
his prime. So there's no quarterbacks on the market. There's one,
maybe two out of the college draft. So Sam Darnold
is gonna fetch the Vikings something and you know, or
he's a free agent. It's a one year deal, so
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he'll go and make some money. I like Sam a lot.
I think I've been validated. That's not what this show
is about. But I think he's really, really, really good,
and he's got excellent elite traits. He's big, he's coachable,
he moves well, he's got a good enough arm. They've
sort of cleaned up his mechanics. But and again, this
is not the Vikings now because they're great left tackles out,
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they're not a great offensive line. PFF ranks him twenty second.
They don't run the football with conviction like a Detroit does.
Sam Donald is making this team. It's a it's a
head coach quarterback story with some nice receivers. So I'm
happy for Sam Donald. Somebody's gonna get a good quarterback.
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But this, this is the story of a quarterback who
basically had a bunch of talent. Caleb Williams, are you
watching wrong? Coach went to bad cultures? And there's like
three or four quarterbacks in my life. L Way Mahomes.
Maybe you know a Josh Allen or a Lamar Jackson
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who are probably talented enough to overcome a lot of
roadblocks in Sam Donald's not. But I gotta tell you,
and I thought Chris Collinsworth was right on this even
after the bad pick. This is a team that has
a lot of confidence in Donald, and it's hard not
to I mean, it's it's it's I'm looking at those numbers.
I'm watching him. He is an absolute playmaker, no question.
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This is what he looked like in college. And he
didn't have a great college coach. So when you bail
on people, you gotta be careful because there were there
were elite traits here and Kevin O'Connell, a terrific young coach,
on his confidence with Sam.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
I'm sure Sam will be hard on himself about those
two interceptions, but I'm going to stay aggressive with him
because I do think my confidence in him, which is genuine,
it's real. It is, like I said, a winning edge
for us moving forward.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, fun stuff, Sam Darnold, Way to go, Jim Harbaugh
in a couple of hours from now, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong.
Top of Next Hour with Matt Hasselbeck.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
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Speaker 3 (30:38):
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Speaker 9 (30:39):
One of the college football breakout Stars, running back Caleb Johnson,
leads the iowah Hawk Gyes into the Rose Bowl for
a showdown against Ucla. It all kicks off Friday at
nine eastern six Pacific on Fox Ucla.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I watched Nebraska give Ohio State everything they could handle
in Columbus, I think it was in Columbus. And then
I watch Ucla hammer Nebraska. Good for Ucla, Like that
was the surprise game of the weekend for me. So
the Rams beat the Seahawks yesterday. It was weird. It
was not well officiated both sides. Seahawks got hosed in
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a couple Puka's ejection.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Eh.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I didn't think it was well officiated. I thought it
got out of hand. But this was just about great
coach Sean McVay, great quarterback Matt Stafford, and a really
good rookie safety for the La Rams. They willed their
way to win, couldn't run the ball, ugly first half,
special teams blunder Puka gets ejected. There was a dozen
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reasons to lose this game. They couldn't run the football,
which really surprised me. But sometimes in the NFL, the
answer is just as simple as yeah, we have a
great coach, great quarterback, and one great defensive player making plays,
and we're really good in the big moments. It had
a Kansas City Chiefs feel to it. We're in the
very high leverage moments, like in the red zone, third
and one, fourth and one. The Rams had the better coach,
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the Rams had the better quarterback. The Rams made fewer mistakes.
Now I'm not saying they're the Kansas City Chiefs, but
the Chiefs are about, you know, one or two weapons,
great quarterback, good old line, great coach, and one or
two defensive players making a big play, and they win
the big moments. They don't know what's win the entire game,
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and the Rams first half was one of their worst
halfs of the season, they couldn't do anything right, but
over the course of a game, their red zone defense
was a plus. They stuffed him on a third and
one and a fourth and one in overtime, and they
were tremendous on big moments, even Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford
was not great in the entire game, but in overtime
he had a perfect passer rating. He was three for
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three and according to Elias Sports, Matt Stafford's game winning
touchdown thirteenth career game winning pass in the final two
minutes of the fourth quarter overtime that broke a tie
with Dan Marino, second most ever since the NFL merger
in nineteen seventy with Tom Brady. So I've said this before.
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If you take if you take Mahomes out of the league,
and maybe Lamar and maybe Josh Allen, who do you
want minute thirty minute forty left, high leverage situation. He
didn't even have his number one receiver. Their offensive line
still has injuries on the interior. They've got rookies and
backups all over the interior of their offensive line. And
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here was Sean McVeigh on the gutty win.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
What a unique, weird game.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
That was what a job by our group to be
able to come away with the win.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I was really proud of.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
The way that we came out in the second half.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They had all the momentum.
Speaker 11 (33:41):
We did a lot of things to beat ourselves. You're
down thirteen to three, and we found a way to
be able to get it tied up after a couple
drives at peace. Like you guys have heard me say,
there's no style points in this league. I think we
want to do some things a lot cleaner. There's gonna
be a lot of things that we can learn from.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah. And by the way, second draft in a row
for the MS, you can put that up their draft picks.
On defense, they have a safety from Tennessee that was undrafted.
He had another interception. Kitchens, the kid from Miami, the
safety Jared Verse, unblockable. Second draft in a row. They
got rid of Aaron Donald And I told you they're
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going to be fine up front. They have really concentrated
the last two years on defense in the draft and
they have yet to miss on a defensive player. They've
hit on all of their defensive players and now they
got a safety out of Tennessee who was undrafted. Who's
become a leader on the back end. All right, Detroit
green Bay. I thought that was going to be really good,
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and it was almost boring.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I like Green Bay and I really like Jordan Love.
But he looked young. They looked young. He is young.
They are young, and they got humbled yesterday. It felt
like big brother showing little brother how it's done. And
Jordan Love is loose. I've always said he's more far
than Rogers. He's just loose. And there were passes yesterday
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that should have never ever left his hand. And you
can make those mistakes against the Carolinas and maybe the Bears,
you can't make them against Detroit. So the Packers were
really sloppy, and they usually aren't. They had ten penalties,
they were one for four in the red zone, you know.
And what was interesting is that Detroit and I thought
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this was a real I like Green Bay in this game.
Detroit a dome team finally going to play outside. We
looked up the weather. The weather was going to be
a mess, and the Lions looked unfazed by it, and
the Packers looked like they'd never played in rain before.
So it was twenty four to three at one point,
and it felt worse. They're not even asking Jared Goff
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to do much. That's how good Detroit is. So green
Bay had some big plays and some big moments, but
they just they were uneven. They were loose. And I've
said this, I don't know if Green Bay feels like
they're a super Bowl team. I think in the NFL
there are steps to this stuff. There are like last year,
green Bay hits on all these young receivers and tight ends.
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You're like, they're exciting, and you're like, they're kind of good.
And then this year it's like they're still young and exciting,
but I think they're really good and maybe they could
get to a conference championship. And then you watch yesterday
and you're like, yeah, yeah, they're young, they're loose, they're sloppy.
You know, weather wasn't great, but Detroit handled it fine.
And here's Dan Campbell after.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
We're built for this man, and it doesn't matter. And
just because we play indoors, it doesn't matter. Men. We
can play anywhere. We can play in the snow and
play in the rain, play in the mud. That's just
such and were built to win.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, it's Kirby Joseph with that pick got him a
big lead. Jamc be honest about I thought this was
gonna be a great game. I think we both thought
green Bay at home, underdog rival game. But it was,
I mean it was really quickly. Detroit's like we'd different.
We're a year to two ahead of you. We've said
this before. Niners have the best NFC roster or Philly.
(37:06):
Detroit has the best NFC roster that's not quite established
but maybe now established, like Amaran Saint Brown hasn't been
around as like long ago, George Kittle, A lot of
the Niners great players are older, the Kittles and Christian
McCaffrey and Trent Williams. I think Detroit's got is San Francisco,
(37:27):
but in their prime. There were a couple of holes
in this game when Brady was like, look at the
size of these holes for Jamiir Gibbs to run through,
and I'm talking eight feet wide. I mean, Panae Sewel
is pushing people out of the television picture. They're just different.
Detroit is just physically different than everybody else in the
(37:48):
NFC North.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
So the only reason like I picked Packers and then
for this contest, I do for Vegas. I backed off
when I saw Jordan love Is like gonna start. I'm
like that just I didn't love that, and he would
you agree? He did not look close to one hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
No, he just and I thought everything gripping the ball,
the weather a slight limp. And I think sometimes when
you're not one hundred percent, you're pressing, you're trying to
play harder because you don't you know, you're not quite there.
And I just it just unraveled.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Do you think they should have considered going to Malik Willis?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
If I have Jordan Love, I'd go with him, But
I don't think the quarterback would have mattered.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yea, I see.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm all in on the floor.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
I think he's a great coach, one of the best
six in the league. When I saw this weather, I
was like, why don't they just turn this into a
ground and pound game with Malik Willis? You got a
good run game with Jacobs. The Detroit Lions defense is
not outstanding, Collin, we would.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Agree on that, right, Well, yeah, it's not. It's there's
two teams in this league, Baltimore and Detroit. They're excellent,
and in both instances, you don't trust the defense. And
then there's a team right now, Kansas City that is
excellent at winning games. I totally trust their defense, and
I also trust Mahomes and Candy Reid. So in this
league right now, Like yesterday, I watched Buffalo in Miami,
(39:01):
and my take is I should have taken Miami. My
take is they're still part of me. The dozen trust
Buffalo in a big spot like they won, and I
was like, okay, Tua ate them up. Tua was almost.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Perfect, had nothing deep down the field.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well, I mean, Charlie's well, I mean you're going to
give you that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I'm fine, we'll let you go. But the the builds
were surprised I.
Speaker 9 (39:21):
Think by the Miami run game eight Chan looked good,
but Miami is Miami good.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
I saw a stat.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
They're four and ten in their last fourteen games. That's
almost a full season of data.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Colin.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I don't think they're I think they're situationally good. Tua's playing,
it's at home. It's a five hundred team or worse
than I think. And that's that's about a third of
the league.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I thought that last weekend they lost Arizona.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Okay, so like Arizona may be better than everybody. To
give them credit for Arizona, that game with Chicago wasn't
close ever, I mean early well, I think Arizona's pretty good.
They got some pretty good players. Hour two next
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