November 6, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin points out the biggest issue the Cowboys have as their disappointing season looks to get back on track in a crowded NFC playoff race
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Tom Brady. In one hour from now, Sean McVay, the
Rams is stopping by our show. Jim Harbaugh was here
earlier and listen. This is a It was the strangest
day of the year to host. Every four years, I
host a show after an election, and half of my
audience is having the time of their lives, and half
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of my audience is depressed and somber and miserable. It's
always the strangest day to host a show. And you know,
I texted my son this morning. Take a deep breath,
you know, hang around people that make you smile. I
felt like mister Rogers, you know, it's just like, you know,
take a deep breath. I root for the country is
what I always root for.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think one hundred percent of our audience is excited
because we got Brady on the show today. Come on,
Tom Brady, there you go. What can get better than that?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You sound like Jim I'll wood By McVeigh like.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Come on. So I thought this was something so for
years and years, speaking of debates and political the Cowboys
quarterback Dack Prescott. He's one of those players. And I
don't know why, because he's got a little bit of
a melt to'st personality. He's not polarizing, he's not really outspoken.
He seems like a nice guy. He's just not a
controversial figure. I mean he just put controversy fine him,
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mostly because he's a Dallas Cowboy quarterback. And you know,
Tony Romo is another guy. Tony Romo laughs a lot
on TV. I think Tony Romo's funny. I don't see
Tony Romo as controversial, ugh, but being a Dallas Cowboy quarterback,
it was. Tony Romo was debated constantly By the way,
I think Tony Romo was underrated. I've always felt Vacs
a little bit overrated, but I mean he's mostly he's
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a B plus quarterback. But I thought this was interesting.
So Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles,
one of the sharpest guys in the NFL. He's seen
every quarterback. He's older, he's been around the league forever.
And they asked him this week, what will it be
like facing Cooper Rush, the backup quarterback instead of Dak Prescott.
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And his answer was, EH, won't change anything. Excuse me,
I beg your jargon. What Hello, It won't change anything.
I mean if Patrick Mahomes was out, Carson Wentz was in,
I think the Chiefs would look the same. I mean,
if Lamar Jackson was out and Josh Johnson was in,
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you think the Ravens would be the same offense, even
B to B plus quarterbacks. If Baker Mayfield's out and
Kyle Trask is in Tampa can't score, you think you
think Kyle Trask is taking the Chiefs to overtime on
Monday Night. You think Kyle Trask is doing that Baker
Mayfield did. He's a BB plus quarterback Tua. We don't
even love Tua. You don't even love Tua. He was
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out the backup. They couldn't score. Miami with a brilliant
offensive coach with Tyreek Hill Jalen Waddell could running backs
couldn't score. Yet when Dak leaves and Cooper Rush comes in,
undrafted twenty seventeen, undrafted, two to three star athlete, Central
Michigan quarterback, not Michigan, not Michigan State, Central Michigan directional school,
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same offense, and you'll wonder why there's those of us
that say, what are you doing? Paying back? Like Patrick Mahomes.
Cooper Rush has had six starts in Dallas. He had
a stink once against Philadelphia. So let's go to the
five games of the six, the five games that he won,
because everybody has stinkers. Mahomes has bad games in the
five of six games, the five games he won, his
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passer rating ninety six, touchdown to interception five to one.
Those are Dak's numbers. He's the backup, and there's no
market for Cooper Rush. It's not like he's this hidden
gem that the trade deadline people are seeking. Cooper Rush.
He's a backup quarterback. So this goes and really proves
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at the core the film doesn't lie that Dak is
living off the affinity Jerry Jones has for him, and
he's living off an early reputation based on weapons when
he wasn't paid very much. Dez and Amari Cooper and
Zeke in his prime and the Cowboys top offensive line
in the league for about a five year run. He's
living off that. I mean, Sean McVay moved off Goff.
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Goff's better than Dak. Alex Smith was in Kansas City,
Andy Reid moved off him. He's certainly as good as Dak,
and Jerry Jones just keeps filling up that bag for
Dak Prescott. But ultimately Vic Fangio, who's seen every quarterback
in this league for fifteen years, is like Dak Cooper Rush.
This is the same offense. So when quarterbacks are young,
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and this is a cautionary tale for another team in
the NFL, when quarterbacks are young, they're cheap, and when
they're cheap, you can stockpile talent in their roster, and
then once you pay them, you have to get rid
of those weapons. Even a great quarterback like Joe Burrow
can't do it alone. Cincinnati doesn't have a good enough players.
But keep your eye on San Francisco and Brock Pretty.
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It's a prime example, san franciscoing Brock Pretty. Brock makes nothing.
The roster is loaded, So San Francisco take a look
at Dallas. Is that Dak is living off Jerry's affinity
for him, He's living off those early weapons and reputation.
A defensive coredinator who's seen every quarterback in this league
for over a decade, Cooper Russian Deck. It'll be the
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same offense, and it will, by the way, so last
night it was the first one Tom Brady again in
fifty minutes. It was the first college football rankings came out.
And so it's you know, college football is really become
mostly with a College Football Playoff, It's going to become
a two conference sport SEC and the Big Ten. It's
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gonna look much more like because this is what the
TV partners want. It's gonna it's gonna look like the NFL, AFC, NFC.
I mean, you'll have the Big twelve, the ACC, the
PAC twelve has already dissolved, but it's gonna be Big twelve,
Big Ten and the SEC and there is this thing.
It's I would call it the illusion of inclusion. So
everybody feels great. Last night, the rankings come out for
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the twelve team playoff. Every look at Indiana awesome? That
is oh by you, the little guy is awesome. At
Boise State. I love it, Boise State. You really think
Boise State or Indiana today? Indiana would have to open
up at Tennessee and then play neutral field games against
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Ohio State, Georgia, Texas. We really think Indiana is going
to run through that. But the one thing I looked at,
and I don't care what the rankings say, Oregon's the
best team I've seen in the country. And every time
I see Oregon, the more impressed I am with him.
But I thought it was interesting that I've watched the
same games the committee has, and are they trying to
be PC or whatever their analytics say? Ohio State two,
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Georgia three. If they played tomorrow, who would you take?
I would take Georgia all day long over Ohio State.
Better coach, better quarterback, better defense, better conference, and Georgia's
quarterbacks not even plan well. But he'll get drafted, So
I mean, I looked at that thing yesterday. Penn State
is sixth, You really think they can play for the Natty,
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so you can create a thirty team playoff. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter that Indiana's nine to zero and BYU
is eight, and oh they don't have enough NFL bodies.
And football is different than basketball, and even because there's
so much violence that you get guys hurt every game.
So if an Indiana or a BYU or a Boise
State has to play three or four games in a
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row against these high end teams, it's fall apart physically.
Even in basketball, where you don't have that level of violence,
if you have one great player. I remember covering David
Robinson when he played at Navy, like one great player.
Even in college basketball, it always ends up down to
the elite eight one seeds, two seeds, three seeds, four seeds,
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and maybe one you know, eleven or twelve dark horse seed.
So I see Miami here. Everybody's excited about Miami. Miami
is a vote for cam Ward and nostalgia. You're thinking, Miami,
Michael Irvin, Miami. That's not what they are. You take
cam Ward off this team, they're a five six win team.
They almost lost to Cal. The four teams at the
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top of this Georgia, Oregon, Texas, Ohio State, those were
the preseason won two three four. I forget the order,
but preseason won two three four. So but I would
say this when I looked at this, my first take is,
who would really trust Ohio State over Georgia if they
played tomorrow? How could you Georgia wins those big games?
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Ohio State did. What's the biggest game this year for
Georgia the Texas game, backed against the wall on the road,
humiliated Texas. You think Ohio State's going to Austin and
humiliating Texas, No they're not. You think Georgia's going to
Oregon and giving up thirty five points? I don't so.
Remember half of Ohio State's fans want the coach fired.
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Their quarterbacks arguably the weakest of the four biggest programs
right now, top four in the country, and they end
up short in all these big games. So as I
watched that, I thought, I don't know who could watch
Georgia beat Texas? How could you watch that game? Understand
Oregon's undefeated? But of all the one loss teams, how
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could you watch that game and have Georgia below Ohio State.
It feels, you know, the committee is trying to make
sure analytics watch the games. Ohio State's not going to
Austin and doing that to Texas that it's I mean,
they went to Penn State and struggle with the Penn
State team that's average at quarterback, below average at wide receiver,
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and didn't play particularly well. I mean that you had
fans at Penn State yelled at the coach, James Franklin.
He had to confront one of them. All right, Jay, Mac,
we got some stuff today. You know, I haven't talked
to Tom Brady in about six weeks, six seven and
maybe eight weeks. Didn't he come on right before the season.
He came on right before the season. He was great,
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by the way, in ten weeks. So Tom's gonna make
another another visit, and I'm interested to ask him about
Kansas City because Kansas City is eight their first time
they've ever been eight to no. But it still feels
like they're kind of trying to figure out what the
heck they are. And Tom was on a couple of
great teams and you think, yeah, a couple, but you
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think when you're eight. No, you think you got your
act together, But I don't think. I think Kansas City
is till really trying to figure out what to do
with Xavier Worthy. They got backup running backs, They're a
little dinged up on defense. I don't think Kansas City
knows what they are yet.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Remember when the Brady Moss team was undefeated and everybody thought, oh,
they could use a loss before the playoffs, and they
didn't have a loss. N I wonder if that applies
to the Chiefs Bills game in two weeks. Yes, like,
because if the Bills don't knock them off, you look
at the schedule and Kansas City's probably gonna be fourteen
to know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I will say this, if you look at how the
Chargers play, you can make an argument there they are
kind of built. They're a little Kansas City where they're
a light at wide receiver, great defense, great head coach,
excellent quarterback, and can run the ball. I think the
Chargers feel like they're already their model. It would have
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been weird to say this a year ago with Brandon Staley,
but if you look at the Chargers today, they are
the Chiefs. The strength is the head coach the quarterback,
maybe one weapon you love, great pass rush, excellent defensive personnel,
a lot of it.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Young.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
So there are poor Man's Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But I don't think they're that poor. I think, I know,
I think they're pretty darn close. They go to Arrowhead
and win, I mean quite the same. Tampa Bay went
to Arrowhead this week without Chris Godwin and Mike Evans,
and there were moments in that game I thought Tampa,
I mean, was Tampa's last drive with Baker, You're like,
you got a Champce going for two and win this game.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
If Bulls goes for two and they get it, we're
not even talking about this season being undefeated.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yes, right.
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Speaker 1 (12:55):
All Right, welcome back. One of the teams in the
league that people thought may make a move of the
trade deadline. I didn't necessarily have to, but they having
a very very aggressive general manager Philadelphia Eagles, Howie Roseman,
did not make a move. There's been other trading deadlines.
He's made a movie. He's probably the most aggressive GM
in the league with Brett Vig at Kansas City. They
make a lot of moves. We don't trust the coach,
but Philadelphia is kind of okay with what they've got.
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And it's interesting because Dan Campbell's a coach. Is opening
press conference, you know, a lot of us looked and
went wow, fighting kneecaps. I don't know, but over time,
Dan Campbell has solidified himself well before this year, last year,
or the year before, as a culture creator, beloved in
the locker room, very very strong, alpha leader. It works.
Siriani got hired the same year his opening press conference
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was brutal, didn't have a lot of allies in the
football community that said he was ready for it, and frankly,
a month ago we didn't know if he was going
to make it to Thanksgiving. So it's always felt wobbly
and wonky in Philadelphia. But if you do look, there
are exceptions to everything. Can Nick Sirianni win a Super Bowl?
If you go to the last twelve coaches that have
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won a Super Bowl, you got Andy Reid multiple times,
Belichick multiple times, you got a Bruce Arians, you got
Pete Carroll, John Harbaugh, Sean McVay, and then Yeah, then
you got a Doug Peterson. Well, Doug Peterson's about to
get fired in Jacksonville. And Doug Peterson not only won,
he won a Super Bowl over Brady and Belichick with
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Nick Foles. So he won with a backup. And I
think from the outside, people like me look at Philadelphia
and think, I don't know, I don't know if it's
gonna work. I think people inside the building in Philadelphia,
like Jeffrey Lourie the owner and Howie Roseman inside the building,
are like work. Jalen Hurts a lot better than Nick Foles,
and we think Nick Sirian he's better than Doug Peterson.
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I mean, if you go back to that year they
won with Doug Peterson, the roster was great, the quarterback
got hot, they got healthy at the right time, and
Doug Peterson stayed out of the way and they got
a little bit of a break because Minnesota was using
a backup in the playoffs case Keenum Aaron Rodgers got
hurt that year. So eight of the ten, you know,
ten of the twelve or eleven of the twelve coaches,
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I don't know how we even brand Gary Kubiak solid
Manning loved him won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We don't consider him bad good. He's just like a
good coach. He's solid BB plus coach. But I think
Doug Peterson, if you're a Philadelphia fan, I think you
look at that and think, well, is Nick Siriani younger
version of Doug Peterson with a much better quarterback? And
I think that's fair. History shows in politics and sports
and business there are exceptions, and the one team that
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did it as an exception with a backup quarterback and
a coach about to be fired for a second time
is the Philadelphia Eagles. So at the trading deadline, I'm
thinking they need to tweak this thing. They have to
get better. Their takeaway is we did it before, and
we like this coach and this quarterback at the Coach
Quarterback League much more. And now we have Saquon Barkley
who is like the human eraser for all their issues,
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any issue Philadelphia has. They hand it off to Saquon
Barkley and he solves the riddle. J Mack with a.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
New turns this is the headline News.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Excited to get back to sports.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
A Thursday night Bengals versus the Ravens a phenomenal game.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
The last time they met, Burrow went off.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He had three hundred and ninety two yards five touchdowns,
but they lost. They blew a lead late. Joe Burrow's
sideline demeanor has caught people's attention. Colin in the postgame
this week, he talked about how there isn't much to
be happy about unless the team achieves perfection. Yesterday, he
spoke to how his non verbal communication is part of
his growth as a leader.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, you know, maybe I could have.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Not let my emotions show quite as much, but it's
also something that I've tried to do more, and I
know people in the locker room have wanted me to
do a little more, whether good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Or bad.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But you can't.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I don't think at least I can't show my emotion
positive positively, and then.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
When things don't go well, not.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Let that be known as well.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He's being authentic. It's okay. It's not a habit or
a pattern. Aaron Rodgers, it can be a little bit
of a habit. Throws a pick, gets moody, Jay Cutler.
I always felt it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Wait a minute, there's difference between Rogers, Moody and Burrow
just not smiling like, look at it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Does that look like somebody who's having fun?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, I think he he That's his look all the
time on the sidelines to see he's the only great
quarterback in the league that has a second tier roster.
And I think he knows it. And I think he
knows that every time he goes to the sideline and
watches an offense march down the field against the Bengals
who got rid of defensive players and Joe Mixon before
they really had to. It's the cheapest ownership in the league.
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And I think he knows it. You look at all
the good quarterbacks in the league. We noted this yesterday,
all the good quarterbacks in the league. Jalen Hurts, good roster.
Stafford's young, but he's got some Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup,
Puka Nukua. He's got like he's got Habenstein the right tackle. Well,
you look at Goff, Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, every great quarterback
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in this league. Herbert, that's a real that's a roster.
They could use another receiver with a charger, but that's
a roster. I think Joe Burrow knows it's me and
Jamar Chase and a chief ownership group. They don't take
any risks in free agency. They've never taken big risks
during the draft. Now the opposite of the Philadelphia Eagles.
They keep coaches too long, they hold onto people too long.
There's been speculation they wouldn't fire Zach Taylor. I don't
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think he should be fired, but for those who do,
I would say this, They're not going to fire a
coach and then pay two coaches at the same time.
Cincinnati won't do that. They'll never have dead coach cap money.
That's not what they do.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So they're one out of the wild card spot.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
But the problem is if you lose to the Ravens Thursday,
they're going to you got swept by Baltimore, so just forget.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
About the division that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And then you're like behind the eight ball here with
a down the stretch schedule that is favorable. Right That
Chargers game I think will be difficult. It'll be a
good one, but like I don't Pittsburgh, we'll see if
Dak Prescott's back for the Dallas game.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Like, that's not a brutal schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's just not I don't know it's but it's a
brutal defense.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
And I don't know if to see his good colin though.
Now how many games do they lost at hown four?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, they're just not Cincinnati, is it's it's I think
they're Listen when when Aaron would get moody in green Bay,
that's on Aaron because the coach and the roster and
the organization was always excellent. Green Bay drafts and develop
as well as anybody. When Jay Cutler was moody in Chicago,
I didn't blame him. When Joe Burrow's moody here, I
don't blame him. When you're when you're a really talented
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guy and your co workers aren't good enough, and the
commitment and the finances from ownership aren't good enough, you
look like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
So Brady is coming on the show today, I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think this is a good question. Maybe you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
But like Tom, when things were not going good and
you were unhappy, did you go to management and be like, guys,
we got to figure that ass out what's going on?
Because I wonder if Burrow should do that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah. But but the difference is Robert Kraft has never
been cheap he's been wrong, He's never been checked.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But would Brady go to him, because I absolutely Burrow's
DNA to go.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No. I think it is. We saw Burrow have an
after after a loss this year. Was it Monday night
or something? He went and marched down and talk to
the I think Burrow is a no BS, bottom line
Midwest kid, up front, authentic kid. I don't think there's
any BS with Joe Burrow. I think I think Tom
Brady did go. In fact, the book, the two three,
four or five books I've read about Craft Belichick, Brady
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Tom went to Craft on multiple occasions and voice some
concerns about the treatment from Bill. He had no and
Bill was a legend. He had no problem doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I would love to find out if Burrow's done that
or plans on doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean, the problem is, it's different if you don't
like the coach, but the owner. Everybody's a puppet to
the owner, and the Brown family is the cheapest organization
in the league. So we're you gonna go to the owner.
I mean, go look at the Browns, Go look at
the Bengals draft history. They don't make deals, they're hyper.
I mean, Cincinnati is a conservative play. They're hyper conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
If this were the NBA with Joe Burrow, we would
be speculating where he's going to trade right now. I
don't see that happening in Cincinnati. But what if he
goes to the owner and the owners like, yeah, we're
not spending.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So the best quarterback they've ever had in Cincinnati's Carson Palmer. Now,
Boomero Siasin was good. I mean there's been other good quarterbacks.
Carson Palmer said, get me out of here, like, I'm out.
Why ownership, lack of commitment.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Would Burrow do that? You think I would hope he does.
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think I don't want good players on crap teams
and bets either, do I. If Burrow had never had
an injury, I think somebody would go, we'll give you
six number one picks. His injuries a little bit, scare
a little people off a little. I would have no problem.
If I was a general manager, I would give up
four first rounders to get Burrow. I wouldn't even think
as long as I didn't have to also rebuild my
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own line, because most of the time you get your
best tackles in the first round. The twenty best left
tackles that have ever played, like eighteen or first round guys.
So if I had, if I had my left tackle,
you know, and because I have to pay Burrow law
and he's got to be protected up front, I would again,
I would have no problem giving up four first for
Joe Burrow as long as I knew I could protect him.
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Because you're giving up so many picks to get him,
you'd have to hit on third round guards and fifth
round tackles. You don't want that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, all right, Let's move on to the Eagles column.
They've won four straight. A lot of the credit goes
to Saquon Barkley. He had a bucks fifty nine last
week against the bad Jags defense.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Now he heads to Dallas and we know they can't
stop the run.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Dallas, however, is hoping Michael Parsons returns to practice this week.
In the meantime, he spoke highly of his former Penn
State teammate.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
For Saquon, this is a blessing in disguise, just off
the strength of people are seeing what you're capable of
when people appreciate you. The Giants did not appreciate him,
and now the rest of the league is facing the
consequences of the Giants stupidity.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I mean what more?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Keenes said, guy's been dynamic, he's been worse the money
and more.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, it's it is amazing that you would let your
best employee go to your rival. It's remarkable to me.
Do you think these organizations are well run? You know,
they're not smart people and it just would never let that.
I mean, would you let Chris Jones in his prime
go to the Chargers if the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Do you remember the conversation we had about how running
backs there was so much pushback, don't draft running backs,
don't pay, and we were like, wait a minute, wait
a minute, this is you got half the league in
tight ends or making more money.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Then sak one Barbi okay, that is definitely say okay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So in the media and they're prone to do this.
This is what the media does with athletes. They want
to get them all the bag. So when the media
overreacted to the scarcity of running back contracts on this show,
I said, what are you talking about? Guards haven't made
money forever? You know, off ball linebackers don't make any money.
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Safeties don't make any money. Tight end Shannon Sharp Tony Gonzalez,
Antonio Gates, they're all Kelsey, They're all underpaid. My whole
life tight ends. And there was this whole thing about
running backs, and I said, take a deep breath. They
still have value. Look at what has happened since the
media overreacted. Derrick Henry not only got paid, but Derek
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Henry has become the centerpiece of the AFC's best team arguably. JK.
Dobbins Harbaugh. JK. Dobbins Herbert, that's the story. And and
and Barkley is which I would put him third of
the MVP voting. The media overreacts whenever players don't get paid.
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There's an overreaction. Running Backs will always have value in
this league. Now, there are things that are sicklical NBA
small ball centers. Running backs have value because running backs
ultimately make the job of your star quarterback easier. I mean,
let's be honest, when Pacheco comes back for Kansas City,
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even with career Hunt playing well, it's more protective, but
Mahome's gonna have a star running back to can peel
off a forty yard or at any time.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Remember the Bears had I had to look this up.
Montgomery they're running back. They had him and they were like, Eh,
we're gonna move off him. He goes to the Lions
behind a good offensive line, thirteen touchdowns last year. They
have an amazing ground game with him and Gibbs like this,
you can't make blanket statements like people are saying, don't
pay running backs. That does not apply Saquon. We mentioned
it was gonna have a Christian McCaffrey type impact on
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the Eagles. McCaffrey was huge going from the Panthers and
the Niners. I think Saquon's been similar to that for
the Eagles. He's been right there with Derek Henry in
terms of numbers this year in terms of impressive.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean, Dereck Henry and Saquon Barkley are the two
most talked about players in the league that aren't quarterbacks.
And it was a year ago the media was just
lamenting the future of running backs. It's like, guys, they're okay,
they're all good. They've had Jonathan Taylor of Indiana applis,
they've always had. I mean, look at look at the Texans.
When Joe Mixon plays, they win. When he doesn't, they lose.
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It's a good they've always had value.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Final story, calm a little hot take happy hour action here.
But so Josh Allen's got the Bills of seven and two,
first place to the AFC East.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They're gonna win the division as.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You predicted I had the Jets. Allan's been great. Three
touchdowns last week against the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Two of them came in the red zone. Right, So
former Bills coach.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Rex Ryan comes out and says, Josh Allen is the
best red zone quarterback of all time. And you know,
I guess that's where we are in the media now.
Josh Allen's numbers in the red zone have been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
One is he wrong? Well, I think Rex Ryan may
be right.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well, okay, so I think isn't a You can't, just
like you couldn't punch into Google, give me the best
red zone quarterback of all time? There isn't an answer
for that. But Lamar Jackson certainly has to be up there.
Cam Newton in his prime was a massive red zone threat,
easily anybody who's duel threat.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, I would say Josh Allen certainly in the discussion.
In the discussion, yeah, I don't, I don't. I mean, yeah,
that doesn't. Do you see Rex Ryan said he'd take
the Jets job off offer. Do you see that?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That was on a show. I think we get Mark
Sanchez's comments on them. He spent some time with rest.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Come on, don't pet up on.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Josh Allen is phenomenal in the red zone. And we
know that he's great.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Since twenty twenty, he's number one in pass yards, passing, touchdowns,
total touchdout.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Like the guy's awesome in the reds and we get that.
But the best of all time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think he's in a short one.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It worth even saying, Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We're talking about it. And it was on an other network.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, I was gonna be a little more harsh, but
I was told, hey, hey, settled down.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I don't want to go after him like I went
after Boomerasias in which got you mad Dog Russo and
come on, al, come on, j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So I saw this yesterday the trade deadline. I'm not
sure how many people paid attention to the NFL trade deadline.
There was something else going on, but the commanders went
and got Marshawn Lattimore a really good corner. Now, I
had I texted a couple of GMS in the league yesterday.
Latimer is a great player. He's not always available, so
he misses. He misses a lot of work hamstring. But
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I like the move. I think it's worth the risk.
But he's hurt a lot. But I was thinking about this.
The Washington Commanders are why the NFL is king. One
of the reasons. It's the league of hope. You could
not do what they do in the NBA, in the
NHL or baseball go from literally the sports laughingstock to excellent.
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Nineteen of the last twenty one NFL seasons, at least
one team has gone from last to first place in
their division. This year we have two commanders Arizona. So
I mean Washington flushed everybody out, the owner, the coach,
the executives, the scouts. I mean, they just started over.
And I had told Jason McIntyre generally I don't like that.
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But if everybody was bad before and everybody's much better
now than by all means, get new furniture, you know,
clean out the rooms. So Adam Schefter reported this week
that literally NFL players private lead to their agents. We're
texting them and saying, get me to the Commanders. So
and I think I think this has really always been
there's a couple of things that make the NFL really popular,
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but I think hope is key. Think about the Chargers.
The Chargers had the worst defense in the league last
year and now they have the number one defense, and
they just they didn't get a bunch of new players,
they just got the right coach. The Commanders were unwatchable,
unwatchable offensively last year. Now they have the number three
offense better than Kansas City's. Why because they got the
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right quarterback and coordinator. So the coach and the coordinator,
the head coach and the quarterback are the king and
the queen of the chess board in the league. And
I think it's just great that sometimes you don't even
have to get a coach and a quarterback to go
from bad to great. The Rams had Jared Goff, they
just got a coach Sean McVay, same quarterback, turned it
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around in one year. So I think there's just something
to be said about the way the collective bargaining works.
The league in which the players have the least amount
of power is football, and it's the best run league.
Baseball players have too much power. Teams get trapped with
bad contracts NBA players, League, NFL. It's not that's why
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in the NFL, name two terrible contracts in the league
right now where a team is trapped. Obviously Denver and
Russell Wilson's deal for the rest of this year and
next year. You would it's not ideal, but it is
hard to find in the NFL. You know, Deshaun Watson,
that's Cleveland's fault. That's not the league's fault. That's not
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the CBA's fault. That's just bad ownership. Cleveland's got a
terrible contract. That's on Cleveland. That's just they do stuff
like that. But it is hard to find multiple bad contracts.
I mean, I go back to the best of Kansas City.
If you look at their entire organisms, have they ever
had a really terrible contract?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Really?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
New England had Albert Hainsworth for a very short time.
They moved off it. But you know, you want to
give the players all this power, Well, what happens is
you get buried in bad contracts and the NFL doesn't
have it. So if you want to clean house. You
can go from the Texans Commanders one year league laughingstock,
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next year playoff team, and I think hope is I
mean the Chargers. You looked at them last year, and
I mean players quit. Football players don't quit hockey, and
football players don't quit during games. You get hurt. Players
quit last year and now this year. I think, I
think if Buffalo doesn't do it, the Chargers will be
the first team that actually beat the Chiefs because I
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think they match up really, really well. Tom Brady joining
us in twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
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Speaker 5 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (31:57):
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
Over on the box. About fifteen minutes from now, Tom
Brady joins the show. In about an hour and twenty
minutes from now, Sean McVay, coach of the Rams, joins
the show so for the first time in the Mahomes
era Kansas City's eight to no. Another second team to
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do that. The Niners did this in the early nineties
to win back to back Super Bowls and then start
eight to no. It didn't happen very often. And I think,
you know, I was talking to Julian Edelman yesterday, and
I'll get to that in a second, But I think
everybody has to just accept they're they're playing at about
eighty percent now and they're just better than everybody. And
there's a lot of different ways the Warrior Dynasty just
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blew people out. But this is I've compared it to
New England. You didn't know was feel New England had
the best players, but you knew they had the best
coach and the best quarterback and a really good ownerness,
you know, smart personnel department, especially early in Belichick's career.
But I mean, the Chiefs are still missing their best
running back. DeAndre Hopkins will only get better. Travis Kelcey's
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finally played well the last two weeks. They don't know
what to do with Xavier Worthy. They're like an electric
vehicle that's about forty five percent charged right now. I
don't think they're fully charged. I like them, and I
like them better than last year, and last year they won.
If you go to their first four games and their
last four games, they're obviously the scoring is up, the
offense is up. They're just a better team. And I
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just think they have too many firsts to end up second.
They have the best coach, the best quarterback, the best
defensive lineman, the best interior offensive line. They're the best
third down team. You know you heard too big to fail,
too best to fail. They've got too many bests not
to be really really good. I do think. I do
think Baltimore and Buffalo, even the Chargers matchup pretty well them.
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But you know, I think they are at Buffalo in
two weeks they play the Chargers. I think those teams,
especially the Chargers, I think, really match up with Kansas
City very well. But Julian Edelman was talking about this yesterday.
He's been on teams like this where it's just they
are really good in high leverage, crucial moments, fourth quarter
and overtime.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They're a machine right now. And we talked about last
time I was on there's situational plays they always do
well on, you know, and that's because they prepare for
those plays. They know the games come down between a
few third downs here that you have to get off
the field when you're on defense, so you have to
extend a drive or a red area play. They were
unbelievable in the red area last night. They were great
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on third down. Watching DeAndre Hopkins there be on the
same page with the confident, focused Patrick Mahomes is something
I would have expected. A veteran type guy that knows space,
that knows zone, that's great in the red area, that's
great on third down. I think they're going to be
very tough to beat.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Agree. So I was thinking about this this morning. Obviously
half the country is elated, Half the country's a miserable
and somber today, and that we're just at the halfway points,
just slightly past the halfway point if you count the playoffs.
We're not quite at the halfway point yet. And so
starting tomorrow, Cincinnati is at Baltimore. And so there are
fourteen games and twenty eight total teams playing. And I
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counted exactly eleven of the twenty eight teams playing, only
thirty nine percent of the teams playing, and I yellowed
them here. Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Washington, Chargers, Philly, Detroit, Houston,
and the Los Angeles Rams. Only thirty nine percent of
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the teams playing we're halfway through the season, really really
feel good about their team. The rest of them, it's
an owner, coach weakness, it's a quarterback issue, it's a
roster problem. And we're halfway through the season. Now, think
about that. All these teams, every one of them has
a billionaire as an owner. They all operate under the
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same salary cab, same roster allowances, all play same number
of games, some cold, some warm, some dome, some outside,
same commissioner, same rules for everybody. And thirty nine percent
that's it of the teams playing. And I looked at
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eleven this weekend. I don't think Pittsburgh Steeter fans think
they're Kansas City or Baltimore, but I think they're really
happy where they are with their coach, their defense. They
were aggressive at the trade deadline thirty nine percent. So
if you haven't a bad day and you don't love
your prospects for the next few years, remember life isn't short,
it's long. I told my son that today, life's not short,
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it's it's long. I've been around a long time. Life
isn't easy. It's hard, dry spells, crisis, somebody's gonna break
your heart, gonna have a health scare. I had one
of those few years ago. How you react to it
will define you and the path and so. And it's
the same thing if you panic as a team or
as a person. The teams that end up drafting are
the teams that panic, they end up drafting it. Go
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look at the top ten teams drafting right now. Next year,
the top ten draft picks, same teams, same teams. You
got a Jacksonville, you got a Carolina, you got a Raiders,
same teams. And so if you think you're gonna win
every game, every election, every day, every moment, every relationship,
not gonna happen, there's gonna be a lot of misery.
And take a deep breath. Today's the strangest day for
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me to host a show. Halfy, a miserable, half elated,
all of you. Take a deep breath. Tom Brady, top
of next hour. I will say this that there is
still tomorrow's game. Baltimore hosting Cincinnati. Tomorrow's game is unique.
You have one team that may be the best team
in the league. I mean literally everything in Baltimore's going well.
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Derek Henry acquisition, Lamar Jackson's great and healthy, Mark Andrews
now playing better. They finally got in wide receivers A Flowers.
I mean, their draft picks don't miss. Like Baltimore feels great.
In Cincinnati, it's the opposite. They feel great about one thing,
one and a half Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So
yesterday is a prime example. We always blame coaches. We
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want to fire coaches, and we want to trade players.
Tomorrow night is really a battle between ownership. I've talked
to general managers through the years about the best run
team in the league, and almost to it an executive,
the Ravens are the model franchise. That is the model.
If you ask Steve Bashatti, the owner, the general manager Harball.
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If you ask executives in the league, name the best
run organization, it's Baltimore. If you ask people in the
league the ownership space you wouldn't want to coach under,
it's Arizona and Cincinnati cheap just just won't won't spend
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money at all.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Probably GUITARSS the Browns and Jets in there as well.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well. I think the Browns have shown they'll spend money.
I mean, it's de money, they'll spend it poorly. But
Cleveland will spend money. They they've they'll They're very aggressive
during the off season, like almost bizarrely aggressive. They tend
to reach and get desperate and passperate.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
That's the key out.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But they're not cheap. Arizona's not spending that kind of
money on a quarterback. They're Arizona's cheap and Cincinnati is cheap.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I just looked this up.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The Bengals and Ravens have played ten times since Burrow
got to the league because both quarterbacks have been injured
a lot. Yeah, Burrow and Lamar have only faced off
three times.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
How many times?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Three out of ten because one of them's always hurt.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I think this is gonna be a close game, one
score game.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Take the organizations, I'll take the reference
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Tom Brady. In one hour from now, Sean McVay, the
Rams is stopping by our show. Jim Harbaugh was here
earlier and listen. This is a It was the strangest
day of the year to host. Every four years, I
host a show after an election, and half of my
audience is having the time of their lives, and half
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of my audience is depressed and somber and miserable. It's
always the strangest day to host a show. And you know,
I texted my son this morning. Take a deep breath,
you know, hang around people that make you smile. I
felt like mister Rogers, you know, it's just like, you know,
take a deep breath. I root for the country is
what I always root for.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I think one hundred percent of our audience is excited
because we got Brady on the show today. Come on,
Tom Brady, there you go. What can get better than that?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You sound like Jim I'll wood By McVeigh like.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Come on. So I thought this was something so for
years and years, speaking of debates and political the Cowboys
quarterback Dack Prescott. He's one of those players. And I
don't know why, because he's got a little bit of
a melt to'st personality. He's not polarizing, he's not really outspoken.
He seems like a nice guy. He's just not a
controversial figure. I mean he just put controversy fine him,
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mostly because he's a Dallas Cowboy quarterback. And you know,
Tony Romo is another guy. Tony Romo laughs a lot
on TV. I think Tony Romo's funny. I don't see
Tony Romo as controversial, ugh, but being a Dallas Cowboy quarterback,
it was. Tony Romo was debated constantly By the way,
I think Tony Romo was underrated. I've always felt Vacs
a little bit overrated, but I mean he's mostly he's
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a B plus quarterback. But I thought this was interesting.
So Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles,
one of the sharpest guys in the NFL. He's seen
every quarterback. He's older, he's been around the league forever.
And they asked him this week, what will it be
like facing Cooper Rush, the backup quarterback instead of Dak Prescott.
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And his answer was, EH, won't change anything. Excuse me,
I beg your jargon. What Hello, It won't change anything.
I mean if Patrick Mahomes was out, Carson Wentz was in,
I think the Chiefs would look the same. I mean,
if Lamar Jackson was out and Josh Johnson was in,
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you think the Ravens would be the same offense, even
B to B plus quarterbacks. If Baker Mayfield's out and
Kyle Trask is in Tampa can't score, you think you
think Kyle Trask is taking the Chiefs to overtime on
Monday Night. You think Kyle Trask is doing that Baker
Mayfield did. He's a BB plus quarterback Tua. We don't
even love Tua. You don't even love Tua. He was
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out the backup. They couldn't score. Miami with a brilliant
offensive coach with Tyreek Hill Jalen Waddell could running backs
couldn't score. Yet when Dak leaves and Cooper Rush comes in,
undrafted twenty seventeen, undrafted, two to three star athlete, Central
Michigan quarterback, not Michigan, not Michigan State, Central Michigan directional school,
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same offense, and you'll wonder why there's those of us
that say, what are you doing? Paying back? Like Patrick Mahomes.
Cooper Rush has had six starts in Dallas. He had
a stink once against Philadelphia. So let's go to the
five games of the six, the five games that he won,
because everybody has stinkers. Mahomes has bad games in the
five of six games, the five games he won, his
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passer rating ninety six, touchdown to interception five to one.
Those are Dak's numbers. He's the backup, and there's no
market for Cooper Rush. It's not like he's this hidden
gem that the trade deadline people are seeking. Cooper Rush.
He's a backup quarterback. So this goes and really proves
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at the core the film doesn't lie that Dak is
living off the affinity Jerry Jones has for him, and
he's living off an early reputation based on weapons when
he wasn't paid very much. Dez and Amari Cooper and
Zeke in his prime and the Cowboys top offensive line
in the league for about a five year run. He's
living off that. I mean, Sean McVay moved off Goff.
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Goff's better than Dak. Alex Smith was in Kansas City,
Andy Reid moved off him. He's certainly as good as Dak,
and Jerry Jones just keeps filling up that bag for
Dak Prescott. But ultimately Vic Fangio, who's seen every quarterback
in this league for fifteen years, is like Dak Cooper Rush.
This is the same offense. So when quarterbacks are young,
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and this is a cautionary tale for another team in
the NFL, when quarterbacks are young, they're cheap, and when
they're cheap, you can stockpile talent in their roster, and
then once you pay them, you have to get rid
of those weapons. Even a great quarterback like Joe Burrow
can't do it alone. Cincinnati doesn't have a good enough players.
But keep your eye on San Francisco and Brock Pretty.
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It's a prime example, san franciscoing Brock Pretty. Brock makes nothing.
The roster is loaded, So San Francisco take a look
at Dallas. Is that Dak is living off Jerry's affinity
for him, He's living off those early weapons and reputation.
A defensive coredinator who's seen every quarterback in this league
for over a decade, Cooper Russian Deck. It'll be the
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same offense, and it will, by the way, so last
night it was the first one Tom Brady again in
fifty minutes. It was the first college football rankings came out.
And so it's you know, college football is really become
mostly with a College Football Playoff, It's going to become
a two conference sport SEC and the Big Ten. It's
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gonna look much more like because this is what the
TV partners want. It's gonna it's gonna look like the NFL, AFC, NFC.
I mean, you'll have the Big twelve, the ACC, the
PAC twelve has already dissolved, but it's gonna be Big twelve,
Big Ten and the SEC and there is this thing.
It's I would call it the illusion of inclusion. So
everybody feels great. Last night, the rankings come out for
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the twelve team playoff. Every look at Indiana awesome? That
is oh by you, the little guy is awesome. At
Boise State. I love it, Boise State. You really think
Boise State or Indiana today? Indiana would have to open
up at Tennessee and then play neutral field games against
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Ohio State, Georgia, Texas. We really think Indiana is going
to run through that. But the one thing I looked at,
and I don't care what the rankings say, Oregon's the
best team I've seen in the country. And every time
I see Oregon, the more impressed I am with him.
But I thought it was interesting that I've watched the
same games the committee has, and are they trying to
be PC or whatever their analytics say? Ohio State two,
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Georgia three. If they played tomorrow, who would you take?
I would take Georgia all day long over Ohio State.
Better coach, better quarterback, better defense, better conference, and Georgia's
quarterbacks not even plan well. But he'll get drafted, So
I mean, I looked at that thing yesterday. Penn State
is sixth, You really think they can play for the Natty,
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so you can create a thirty team playoff. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter that Indiana's nine to zero and BYU
is eight, and oh they don't have enough NFL bodies.
And football is different than basketball, and even because there's
so much violence that you get guys hurt every game.
So if an Indiana or a BYU or a Boise
State has to play three or four games in a
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row against these high end teams, it's fall apart physically.
Even in basketball, where you don't have that level of violence,
if you have one great player. I remember covering David
Robinson when he played at Navy, like one great player.
Even in college basketball, it always ends up down to
the elite eight one seeds, two seeds, three seeds, four seeds,
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and maybe one you know, eleven or twelve dark horse seed.
So I see Miami here. Everybody's excited about Miami. Miami
is a vote for cam Ward and nostalgia. You're thinking, Miami,
Michael Irvin, Miami. That's not what they are. You take
cam Ward off this team, they're a five six win team.
They almost lost to Cal. The four teams at the
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top of this Georgia, Oregon, Texas, Ohio State, those were
the preseason won two three four. I forget the order,
but preseason won two three four. So but I would
say this when I looked at this, my first take is,
who would really trust Ohio State over Georgia if they
played tomorrow? How could you Georgia wins those big games?
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Ohio State did. What's the biggest game this year for
Georgia the Texas game, backed against the wall on the road,
humiliated Texas. You think Ohio State's going to Austin and
humiliating Texas, No they're not. You think Georgia's going to
Oregon and giving up thirty five points? I don't so.
Remember half of Ohio State's fans want the coach fired.
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Their quarterbacks arguably the weakest of the four biggest programs
right now, top four in the country, and they end
up short in all these big games. So as I
watched that, I thought, I don't know who could watch
Georgia beat Texas? How could you watch that game? Understand
Oregon's undefeated? But of all the one loss teams, how
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could you watch that game and have Georgia below Ohio State.
It feels, you know, the committee is trying to make
sure analytics watch the games. Ohio State's not going to
Austin and doing that to Texas that it's I mean,
they went to Penn State and struggle with the Penn
State team that's average at quarterback, below average at wide receiver,
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and didn't play particularly well. I mean that you had
fans at Penn State yelled at the coach, James Franklin.
He had to confront one of them. All right, Jay, Mac,
we got some stuff today. You know, I haven't talked
to Tom Brady in about six weeks, six seven and
maybe eight weeks. Didn't he come on right before the season.
He came on right before the season. He was great,
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by the way, in ten weeks. So Tom's gonna make
another another visit, and I'm interested to ask him about
Kansas City because Kansas City is eight their first time
they've ever been eight to no. But it still feels
like they're kind of trying to figure out what the
heck they are. And Tom was on a couple of
great teams and you think, yeah, a couple, but you
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think when you're eight. No, you think you got your
act together, But I don't think. I think Kansas City
is till really trying to figure out what to do
with Xavier Worthy. They got backup running backs, They're a
little dinged up on defense. I don't think Kansas City
knows what they are yet.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Remember when the Brady Moss team was undefeated and everybody thought, oh,
they could use a loss before the playoffs, and they
didn't have a loss. N I wonder if that applies
to the Chiefs Bills game in two weeks. Yes, like,
because if the Bills don't knock them off, you look
at the schedule and Kansas City's probably gonna be fourteen
to know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I will say this, if you look at how the
Chargers play, you can make an argument there they are
kind of built. They're a little Kansas City where they're
a light at wide receiver, great defense, great head coach,
excellent quarterback, and can run the ball. I think the
Chargers feel like they're already their model. It would have
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been weird to say this a year ago with Brandon Staley,
but if you look at the Chargers today, they are
the Chiefs. The strength is the head coach the quarterback,
maybe one weapon you love, great pass rush, excellent defensive personnel,
a lot of it.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Young.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
So there are poor Man's Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
But I don't think they're that poor. I think, I know,
I think they're pretty darn close. They go to Arrowhead
and win, I mean quite the same. Tampa Bay went
to Arrowhead this week without Chris Godwin and Mike Evans,
and there were moments in that game I thought Tampa,
I mean, was Tampa's last drive with Baker, You're like,
you got a Champce going for two and win this game.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
If Bulls goes for two and they get it, we're
not even talking about this season being undefeated.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
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Speaker 1 (12:55):
All Right, welcome back. One of the teams in the
league that people thought may make a move of the
trade deadline. I didn't necessarily have to, but they having
a very very aggressive general manager Philadelphia Eagles, Howie Roseman,
did not make a move. There's been other trading deadlines.
He's made a movie. He's probably the most aggressive GM
in the league with Brett Vig at Kansas City. They
make a lot of moves. We don't trust the coach,
but Philadelphia is kind of okay with what they've got.
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And it's interesting because Dan Campbell's a coach. Is opening
press conference, you know, a lot of us looked and
went wow, fighting kneecaps. I don't know, but over time,
Dan Campbell has solidified himself well before this year, last year,
or the year before, as a culture creator, beloved in
the locker room, very very strong, alpha leader. It works.
Siriani got hired the same year his opening press conference
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was brutal, didn't have a lot of allies in the
football community that said he was ready for it, and frankly,
a month ago we didn't know if he was going
to make it to Thanksgiving. So it's always felt wobbly
and wonky in Philadelphia. But if you do look, there
are exceptions to everything. Can Nick Sirianni win a Super Bowl?
If you go to the last twelve coaches that have
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won a Super Bowl, you got Andy Reid multiple times,
Belichick multiple times, you got a Bruce Arians, you got
Pete Carroll, John Harbaugh, Sean McVay, and then Yeah, then
you got a Doug Peterson. Well, Doug Peterson's about to
get fired in Jacksonville. And Doug Peterson not only won,
he won a Super Bowl over Brady and Belichick with
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Nick Foles. So he won with a backup. And I
think from the outside, people like me look at Philadelphia
and think, I don't know, I don't know if it's
gonna work. I think people inside the building in Philadelphia,
like Jeffrey Lourie the owner and Howie Roseman inside the building,
are like work. Jalen Hurts a lot better than Nick Foles,
and we think Nick Sirian he's better than Doug Peterson.
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I mean, if you go back to that year they
won with Doug Peterson, the roster was great, the quarterback
got hot, they got healthy at the right time, and
Doug Peterson stayed out of the way and they got
a little bit of a break because Minnesota was using
a backup in the playoffs case Keenum Aaron Rodgers got
hurt that year. So eight of the ten, you know,
ten of the twelve or eleven of the twelve coaches,
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I don't know how we even brand Gary Kubiak solid
Manning loved him won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
We don't consider him bad good. He's just like a
good coach. He's solid BB plus coach. But I think
Doug Peterson, if you're a Philadelphia fan, I think you
look at that and think, well, is Nick Siriani younger
version of Doug Peterson with a much better quarterback? And
I think that's fair. History shows in politics and sports
and business there are exceptions, and the one team that
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did it as an exception with a backup quarterback and
a coach about to be fired for a second time
is the Philadelphia Eagles. So at the trading deadline, I'm
thinking they need to tweak this thing. They have to
get better. Their takeaway is we did it before, and
we like this coach and this quarterback at the Coach
Quarterback League much more. And now we have Saquon Barkley
who is like the human eraser for all their issues,
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any issue Philadelphia has. They hand it off to Saquon
Barkley and he solves the riddle. J Mack with a.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
New turns this is the headline News.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Excited to get back to sports.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
A Thursday night Bengals versus the Ravens a phenomenal game.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
The last time they met, Burrow went off.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
He had three hundred and ninety two yards five touchdowns,
but they lost. They blew a lead late. Joe Burrow's
sideline demeanor has caught people's attention. Colin in the postgame
this week, he talked about how there isn't much to
be happy about unless the team achieves perfection. Yesterday, he
spoke to how his non verbal communication is part of
his growth as a leader.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, you know, maybe I could have.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Not let my emotions show quite as much, but it's
also something that I've tried to do more, and I
know people in the locker room have wanted me to
do a little more, whether good.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Or bad.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But you can't.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
I don't think at least I can't show my emotion
positive positively, and then.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
When things don't go well, not.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Let that be known as well.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
He's being authentic. It's okay. It's not a habit or
a pattern. Aaron Rodgers, it can be a little bit
of a habit. Throws a pick, gets moody, Jay Cutler.
I always felt it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Wait a minute, there's difference between Rogers, Moody and Burrow
just not smiling like, look at it.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Does that look like somebody who's having fun?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, I think he he That's his look all the
time on the sidelines to see he's the only great
quarterback in the league that has a second tier roster.
And I think he knows it. And I think he
knows that every time he goes to the sideline and
watches an offense march down the field against the Bengals
who got rid of defensive players and Joe Mixon before
they really had to. It's the cheapest ownership in the league.
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And I think he knows it. You look at all
the good quarterbacks in the league. We noted this yesterday,
all the good quarterbacks in the league. Jalen Hurts, good roster.
Stafford's young, but he's got some Kyron Williams, Cooper Cup,
Puka Nukua. He's got like he's got Habenstein the right tackle. Well,
you look at Goff, Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, every great quarterback
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in this league. Herbert, that's a real that's a roster.
They could use another receiver with a charger, but that's
a roster. I think Joe Burrow knows it's me and
Jamar Chase and a chief ownership group. They don't take
any risks in free agency. They've never taken big risks
during the draft. Now the opposite of the Philadelphia Eagles.
They keep coaches too long, they hold onto people too long.
There's been speculation they wouldn't fire Zach Taylor. I don't
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think he should be fired, but for those who do,
I would say this, They're not going to fire a
coach and then pay two coaches at the same time.
Cincinnati won't do that. They'll never have dead coach cap money.
That's not what they do.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
So they're one out of the wild card spot.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
But the problem is if you lose to the Ravens Thursday,
they're going to you got swept by Baltimore, so just forget.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
About the division that's not happening.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And then you're like behind the eight ball here with
a down the stretch schedule that is favorable. Right That
Chargers game I think will be difficult. It'll be a
good one, but like I don't Pittsburgh, we'll see if
Dak Prescott's back for the Dallas game.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Like, that's not a brutal schedule.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's just not I don't know it's but it's a
brutal defense.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
And I don't know if to see his good colin though.
Now how many games do they lost at hown four?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, they're just not Cincinnati, is it's it's I think
they're Listen when when Aaron would get moody in green Bay,
that's on Aaron because the coach and the roster and
the organization was always excellent. Green Bay drafts and develop
as well as anybody. When Jay Cutler was moody in Chicago,
I didn't blame him. When Joe Burrow's moody here, I
don't blame him. When you're when you're a really talented
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guy and your co workers aren't good enough, and the
commitment and the finances from ownership aren't good enough, you
look like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
So Brady is coming on the show today, I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I think this is a good question. Maybe you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
But like Tom, when things were not going good and
you were unhappy, did you go to management and be like, guys,
we got to figure that ass out what's going on?
Because I wonder if Burrow should do that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah. But but the difference is Robert Kraft has never
been cheap he's been wrong, He's never been checked.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But would Brady go to him, because I absolutely Burrow's
DNA to go.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No. I think it is. We saw Burrow have an
after after a loss this year. Was it Monday night
or something? He went and marched down and talk to
the I think Burrow is a no BS, bottom line
Midwest kid, up front, authentic kid. I don't think there's
any BS with Joe Burrow. I think I think Tom
Brady did go. In fact, the book, the two three,
four or five books I've read about Craft Belichick, Brady
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Tom went to Craft on multiple occasions and voice some
concerns about the treatment from Bill. He had no and
Bill was a legend. He had no problem doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I would love to find out if Burrow's done that
or plans on doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean, the problem is, it's different if you don't
like the coach, but the owner. Everybody's a puppet to
the owner, and the Brown family is the cheapest organization
in the league. So we're you gonna go to the owner.
I mean, go look at the Browns, Go look at
the Bengals draft history. They don't make deals, they're hyper.
I mean, Cincinnati is a conservative play. They're hyper conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
If this were the NBA with Joe Burrow, we would
be speculating where he's going to trade right now. I
don't see that happening in Cincinnati. But what if he
goes to the owner and the owners like, yeah, we're
not spending.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So the best quarterback they've ever had in Cincinnati's Carson Palmer. Now,
Boomero Siasin was good. I mean there's been other good quarterbacks.
Carson Palmer said, get me out of here, like, I'm out.
Why ownership, lack of commitment.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Would Burrow do that? You think I would hope he does.
I don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think I don't want good players on crap teams
and bets either, do I. If Burrow had never had
an injury, I think somebody would go, we'll give you
six number one picks. His injuries a little bit, scare
a little people off a little. I would have no problem.
If I was a general manager, I would give up
four first rounders to get Burrow. I wouldn't even think
as long as I didn't have to also rebuild my
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own line, because most of the time you get your
best tackles in the first round. The twenty best left
tackles that have ever played, like eighteen or first round guys.
So if I had, if I had my left tackle,
you know, and because I have to pay Burrow law
and he's got to be protected up front, I would again,
I would have no problem giving up four first for
Joe Burrow as long as I knew I could protect him.
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Because you're giving up so many picks to get him,
you'd have to hit on third round guards and fifth
round tackles. You don't want that.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, all right, Let's move on to the Eagles column.
They've won four straight. A lot of the credit goes
to Saquon Barkley. He had a bucks fifty nine last
week against the bad Jags defense.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Now he heads to Dallas and we know they can't
stop the run.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Dallas, however, is hoping Michael Parsons returns to practice this week.
In the meantime, he spoke highly of his former Penn
State teammate.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
For Saquon, this is a blessing in disguise, just off
the strength of people are seeing what you're capable of
when people appreciate you. The Giants did not appreciate him,
and now the rest of the league is facing the
consequences of the Giants stupidity.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I mean what more?
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Keenes said, guy's been dynamic, he's been worse the money
and more.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, it's it is amazing that you would let your
best employee go to your rival. It's remarkable to me.
Do you think these organizations are well run? You know,
they're not smart people and it just would never let that.
I mean, would you let Chris Jones in his prime
go to the Chargers if the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Do you remember the conversation we had about how running
backs there was so much pushback, don't draft running backs,
don't pay, and we were like, wait a minute, wait
a minute, this is you got half the league in
tight ends or making more money.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Then sak one Barbi okay, that is definitely say okay.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
So in the media and they're prone to do this.
This is what the media does with athletes. They want
to get them all the bag. So when the media
overreacted to the scarcity of running back contracts on this show,
I said, what are you talking about? Guards haven't made
money forever? You know, off ball linebackers don't make any money.
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Safeties don't make any money. Tight end Shannon Sharp Tony Gonzalez,
Antonio Gates, they're all Kelsey, They're all underpaid. My whole
life tight ends. And there was this whole thing about
running backs, and I said, take a deep breath. They
still have value. Look at what has happened since the
media overreacted. Derrick Henry not only got paid, but Derek
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Henry has become the centerpiece of the AFC's best team arguably. JK.
Dobbins Harbaugh. JK. Dobbins Herbert, that's the story. And and
and Barkley is which I would put him third of
the MVP voting. The media overreacts whenever players don't get paid.
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There's an overreaction. Running Backs will always have value in
this league. Now, there are things that are sicklical NBA
small ball centers. Running backs have value because running backs
ultimately make the job of your star quarterback easier. I mean,
let's be honest, when Pacheco comes back for Kansas City,
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even with career Hunt playing well, it's more protective, but
Mahome's gonna have a star running back to can peel
off a forty yard or at any time.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Remember the Bears had I had to look this up.
Montgomery they're running back. They had him and they were like, Eh,
we're gonna move off him. He goes to the Lions
behind a good offensive line, thirteen touchdowns last year. They
have an amazing ground game with him and Gibbs like this,
you can't make blanket statements like people are saying, don't
pay running backs. That does not apply Saquon. We mentioned
it was gonna have a Christian McCaffrey type impact on
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the Eagles. McCaffrey was huge going from the Panthers and
the Niners. I think Saquon's been similar to that for
the Eagles. He's been right there with Derek Henry in
terms of numbers this year in terms of impressive.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean, Dereck Henry and Saquon Barkley are the two
most talked about players in the league that aren't quarterbacks.
And it was a year ago the media was just
lamenting the future of running backs. It's like, guys, they're okay,
they're all good. They've had Jonathan Taylor of Indiana applis,
they've always had. I mean, look at look at the Texans.
When Joe Mixon plays, they win. When he doesn't, they lose.
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It's a good they've always had value.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Final story, calm a little hot take happy hour action here.
But so Josh Allen's got the Bills of seven and two,
first place to the AFC East.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
They're gonna win the division as.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You predicted I had the Jets. Allan's been great. Three
touchdowns last week against the Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Two of them came in the red zone. Right, So
former Bills coach.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Rex Ryan comes out and says, Josh Allen is the
best red zone quarterback of all time. And you know,
I guess that's where we are in the media now.
Josh Allen's numbers in the red zone have been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
One is he wrong? Well, I think Rex Ryan may
be right.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Well, okay, so I think isn't a You can't, just
like you couldn't punch into Google, give me the best
red zone quarterback of all time? There isn't an answer
for that. But Lamar Jackson certainly has to be up there.
Cam Newton in his prime was a massive red zone threat,
easily anybody who's duel threat.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, I would say Josh Allen certainly in the discussion.
In the discussion, yeah, I don't, I don't. I mean, yeah,
that doesn't. Do you see Rex Ryan said he'd take
the Jets job off offer. Do you see that?
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That was on a show. I think we get Mark
Sanchez's comments on them. He spent some time with rest.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Come on, don't pet up on.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Josh Allen is phenomenal in the red zone. And we
know that he's great.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Since twenty twenty, he's number one in pass yards, passing, touchdowns,
total touchdout.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Like the guy's awesome in the reds and we get that.
But the best of all time.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think he's in a short one.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It worth even saying, Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
We're talking about it. And it was on an other network.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, I was gonna be a little more harsh, but
I was told, hey, hey, settled down.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I don't want to go after him like I went
after Boomerasias in which got you mad Dog Russo and
come on, al, come on, j Mack with the news.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line news.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
So I saw this yesterday the trade deadline. I'm not
sure how many people paid attention to the NFL trade deadline.
There was something else going on, but the commanders went
and got Marshawn Lattimore a really good corner. Now, I
had I texted a couple of GMS in the league yesterday.
Latimer is a great player. He's not always available, so
he misses. He misses a lot of work hamstring. But
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I like the move. I think it's worth the risk.
But he's hurt a lot. But I was thinking about this.
The Washington Commanders are why the NFL is king. One
of the reasons. It's the league of hope. You could
not do what they do in the NBA, in the
NHL or baseball go from literally the sports laughingstock to excellent.
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Nineteen of the last twenty one NFL seasons, at least
one team has gone from last to first place in
their division. This year we have two commanders Arizona. So
I mean Washington flushed everybody out, the owner, the coach,
the executives, the scouts. I mean, they just started over.
And I had told Jason McIntyre generally I don't like that.
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But if everybody was bad before and everybody's much better
now than by all means, get new furniture, you know,
clean out the rooms. So Adam Schefter reported this week
that literally NFL players private lead to their agents. We're
texting them and saying, get me to the Commanders. So
and I think I think this has really always been
there's a couple of things that make the NFL really popular,
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but I think hope is key. Think about the Chargers.
The Chargers had the worst defense in the league last
year and now they have the number one defense, and
they just they didn't get a bunch of new players,
they just got the right coach. The Commanders were unwatchable,
unwatchable offensively last year. Now they have the number three
offense better than Kansas City's. Why because they got the
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right quarterback and coordinator. So the coach and the coordinator,
the head coach and the quarterback are the king and
the queen of the chess board in the league. And
I think it's just great that sometimes you don't even
have to get a coach and a quarterback to go
from bad to great. The Rams had Jared Goff, they
just got a coach Sean McVay, same quarterback, turned it
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around in one year. So I think there's just something
to be said about the way the collective bargaining works.
The league in which the players have the least amount
of power is football, and it's the best run league.
Baseball players have too much power. Teams get trapped with
bad contracts NBA players, League, NFL. It's not that's why
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in the NFL, name two terrible contracts in the league
right now where a team is trapped. Obviously Denver and
Russell Wilson's deal for the rest of this year and
next year. You would it's not ideal, but it is
hard to find in the NFL. You know, Deshaun Watson,
that's Cleveland's fault. That's not the league's fault. That's not
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the CBA's fault. That's just bad ownership. Cleveland's got a
terrible contract. That's on Cleveland. That's just they do stuff
like that. But it is hard to find multiple bad contracts.
I mean, I go back to the best of Kansas City.
If you look at their entire organisms, have they ever
had a really terrible contract?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Really?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
New England had Albert Hainsworth for a very short time.
They moved off it. But you know, you want to
give the players all this power, Well, what happens is
you get buried in bad contracts and the NFL doesn't
have it. So if you want to clean house. You
can go from the Texans Commanders one year league laughingstock,
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next year playoff team, and I think hope is I
mean the Chargers. You looked at them last year, and
I mean players quit. Football players don't quit hockey, and
football players don't quit during games. You get hurt. Players
quit last year and now this year. I think, I
think if Buffalo doesn't do it, the Chargers will be
the first team that actually beat the Chiefs because I
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think they match up really, really well. Tom Brady joining
us in twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
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Speaker 5 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (31:57):
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
Over on the box. About fifteen minutes from now, Tom
Brady joins the show. In about an hour and twenty
minutes from now, Sean McVay, coach of the Rams, joins
the show so for the first time in the Mahomes
era Kansas City's eight to no. Another second team to
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do that. The Niners did this in the early nineties
to win back to back Super Bowls and then start
eight to no. It didn't happen very often. And I think,
you know, I was talking to Julian Edelman yesterday, and
I'll get to that in a second, But I think
everybody has to just accept they're they're playing at about
eighty percent now and they're just better than everybody. And
there's a lot of different ways the Warrior Dynasty just
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blew people out. But this is I've compared it to
New England. You didn't know was feel New England had
the best players, but you knew they had the best
coach and the best quarterback and a really good ownerness,
you know, smart personnel department, especially early in Belichick's career.
But I mean, the Chiefs are still missing their best
running back. DeAndre Hopkins will only get better. Travis Kelcey's
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finally played well the last two weeks. They don't know
what to do with Xavier Worthy. They're like an electric
vehicle that's about forty five percent charged right now. I
don't think they're fully charged. I like them, and I
like them better than last year, and last year they won.
If you go to their first four games and their
last four games, they're obviously the scoring is up, the
offense is up. They're just a better team. And I
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just think they have too many firsts to end up second.
They have the best coach, the best quarterback, the best
defensive lineman, the best interior offensive line. They're the best
third down team. You know you heard too big to fail,
too best to fail. They've got too many bests not
to be really really good. I do think. I do
think Baltimore and Buffalo, even the Chargers matchup pretty well them.
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But you know, I think they are at Buffalo in
two weeks they play the Chargers. I think those teams,
especially the Chargers, I think, really match up with Kansas
City very well. But Julian Edelman was talking about this yesterday.
He's been on teams like this where it's just they
are really good in high leverage, crucial moments, fourth quarter
and overtime.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
They're a machine right now. And we talked about last
time I was on there's situational plays they always do
well on, you know, and that's because they prepare for
those plays. They know the games come down between a
few third downs here that you have to get off
the field when you're on defense, so you have to
extend a drive or a red area play. They were
unbelievable in the red area last night. They were great
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on third down. Watching DeAndre Hopkins there be on the
same page with the confident, focused Patrick Mahomes is something
I would have expected. A veteran type guy that knows space,
that knows zone, that's great in the red area, that's
great on third down. I think they're going to be
very tough to beat.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Agree. So I was thinking about this this morning. Obviously
half the country is elated, Half the country's a miserable
and somber today, and that we're just at the halfway points,
just slightly past the halfway point if you count the playoffs.
We're not quite at the halfway point yet. And so
starting tomorrow, Cincinnati is at Baltimore. And so there are
fourteen games and twenty eight total teams playing. And I
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counted exactly eleven of the twenty eight teams playing, only
thirty nine percent of the teams playing, and I yellowed
them here. Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Washington, Chargers, Philly, Detroit, Houston,
and the Los Angeles Rams. Only thirty nine percent of
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the teams playing we're halfway through the season, really really
feel good about their team. The rest of them, it's
an owner, coach weakness, it's a quarterback issue, it's a
roster problem. And we're halfway through the season. Now, think
about that. All these teams, every one of them has
a billionaire as an owner. They all operate under the
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same salary cab, same roster allowances, all play same number
of games, some cold, some warm, some dome, some outside,
same commissioner, same rules for everybody. And thirty nine percent
that's it of the teams playing. And I looked at
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eleven this weekend. I don't think Pittsburgh Steeter fans think
they're Kansas City or Baltimore, but I think they're really
happy where they are with their coach, their defense. They
were aggressive at the trade deadline thirty nine percent. So
if you haven't a bad day and you don't love
your prospects for the next few years, remember life isn't short,
it's long. I told my son that today, life's not short,
(36:59):
it's it's long. I've been around a long time. Life
isn't easy. It's hard, dry spells, crisis, somebody's gonna break
your heart, gonna have a health scare. I had one
of those few years ago. How you react to it
will define you and the path and so. And it's
the same thing if you panic as a team or
as a person. The teams that end up drafting are
the teams that panic, they end up drafting it. Go
(37:21):
look at the top ten teams drafting right now. Next year,
the top ten draft picks, same teams, same teams. You
got a Jacksonville, you got a Carolina, you got a Raiders,
same teams. And so if you think you're gonna win
every game, every election, every day, every moment, every relationship,
not gonna happen, there's gonna be a lot of misery.
And take a deep breath. Today's the strangest day for
(37:45):
me to host a show. Halfy, a miserable, half elated,
all of you. Take a deep breath. Tom Brady, top
of next hour. I will say this that there is
still tomorrow's game. Baltimore hosting Cincinnati. Tomorrow's game is unique.
You have one team that may be the best team
in the league. I mean literally everything in Baltimore's going well.
(38:07):
Derek Henry acquisition, Lamar Jackson's great and healthy, Mark Andrews
now playing better. They finally got in wide receivers A Flowers.
I mean, their draft picks don't miss. Like Baltimore feels great.
In Cincinnati, it's the opposite. They feel great about one thing,
one and a half Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So
yesterday is a prime example. We always blame coaches. We
(38:28):
want to fire coaches, and we want to trade players.
Tomorrow night is really a battle between ownership. I've talked
to general managers through the years about the best run
team in the league, and almost to it an executive,
the Ravens are the model franchise. That is the model.
If you ask Steve Bashatti, the owner, the general manager Harball.
(38:51):
If you ask executives in the league, name the best
run organization, it's Baltimore. If you ask people in the
league the ownership space you wouldn't want to coach under,
it's Arizona and Cincinnati cheap just just won't won't spend
(39:12):
money at all.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Probably GUITARSS the Browns and Jets in there as well.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well. I think the Browns have shown they'll spend money.
I mean, it's de money, they'll spend it poorly. But
Cleveland will spend money. They they've they'll They're very aggressive
during the off season, like almost bizarrely aggressive. They tend
to reach and get desperate and passperate.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
That's the key out.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
But they're not cheap. Arizona's not spending that kind of
money on a quarterback. They're Arizona's cheap and Cincinnati is cheap.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I just looked this up.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
The Bengals and Ravens have played ten times since Burrow
got to the league because both quarterbacks have been injured
a lot. Yeah, Burrow and Lamar have only faced off
three times.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
How many times?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Three out of ten because one of them's always hurt.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I think this is gonna be a close game, one
score game.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Take the organizations, I'll take the reference
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