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November 10, 2024 • 53 mins

Richard Sherman reacts to Week 10 of the 2024 NFL season, including Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers winning Christian McCaffrey's first game back against Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys getting blown out by Jalen Hurts' Philadelphia Eagles in their first game without Dak Prescott, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs remaining perfect against the Denver Broncos, Russell Wilson leading the Pittsburgh Steelers over Jayden Daniels' Washington Commanders, Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets continuing to disappoint against the upstart Arizona Cardinals led by Kyler Murray, and Caleb Williams getting sacked nine times in the Chicago Bears' loss to the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know, you don't do the Bowl championships. That should
always be the expectation. All right, man, Actually, go ahead,
welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And what a
week metelluh nail bider in Tampa Bay, San Francisco forty
nine ers come back, get to win, And what's going
on in Dallas? Uh? It's hot seats and people are

(00:31):
gonna be looking for jobs soon. Unfortunately. I hope you know,
something can turn around for him. I mean we got
to see we got to see Trey Lance a little
bit in that game, Metroll. It was it was interesting.
But obviously, I know the game you're most exciting for,
excited for it hasn't happened yet. But what you think
of the other ones?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Wow, Richard, I got my Honolulu Blue on. I got
my brightening watch on that Honolulu Blue, which I know
you love so much. But I think we got to
talk about the Niners. This Tampa Bay Buccaneers team is
a feisty team, and you go on the road across
country with that time change, Richard, you know all too
well this is not an easy environment to play in.
And they had CMC back. You know they're getting some

(01:09):
healthy bodies back. They got Juwan Jennings back. Ricky Pristall
is looking like a good solve for them in that
the wide receiving room as well. Richard, you got to
be stoked with them coming away with the win on
the road CMC looking healthy. But before we get into CMC,
let's talk about the kicking game, because we talked about

(01:32):
it off are the San Francisco forty nine ers spent
a third round pick on Jake Moody and he struggled. Richard,
what are your thoughts about this kicker? Right now, we
saw Debo get into it with Tabor Pepper, the long snapper.
What are your thoughts about Jake Moody because this this
looks like a consistent problem in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, it's frustrating. You know, before the injury, I think
he was fourteen or fifteen, you know, look look pretty good.
You know, it looked like he was he was putting
away all the all the doubt that people had, all
the concerns. But then you come back from the injury
after you know, the two kickers that replaced you pretty
much were flawless, you know on pats and field goals.
If I'm not mistaken. You don't pretty much made every kick.

(02:13):
And then you come back in a game like this,
and and people you know, have some sympathy for you. You
miss one kick, You're like, hey, the rust. Then you
miss two kicks, you're like, all right now, and then
the third kick you start to you start to have
a lot of questions, and you start to see a
frustration from both players and fans. And when Deebo Samuel
goes up to him and says, lock lock in, and

(02:34):
apparently that's what he said, that's what Tavor Pepper said.
He said, you don't defend him from that. You don't
get to defend him from from accountability from the team.
When you know, if I give up a touchdown pass
and one of my teammates, you know, one of my
fellow teammates come on like, hey come on now, lock
in now. Somebody's not gonna come in and save me,
Like you gotta be tough. This is this is the

(02:56):
National Football League. You make a mistake, you are held
accountable just like everybody else. It does not mean because
I'm a specialist, and you know, they're a different case
and this that and the third No, there's accountability, do
your job, And that's what Deebo Samuel was coming to say, Like,
this is a high level football team. This is a
team that's been the Super Bowls. There's a standard of play.

(03:18):
And to miss three field goals after all the work
that goes into those drives and to get the ball
down the field and these were long, long drives, you know.
And unfortunately the San Francisco forty nine ers are not
converting at a high rate in the red zone this year,
so they are settling for a lot more field goals
than usual. You got to make the kicks. This game

(03:38):
should not have been this close, and it's coming down
to the final kick because of miskicks. And so I'm
I'm totally with Debo here. You know, there are better
ways to handle it. And I understand kind of what
Taveror is doing. You know're trying to defend this guy,
But you cannot defend people from accountability, I don't care,
not in this game. You know, you can defend from like,

(04:00):
you know, people going overborn or cursing him out or
saying you suck or something like that. You know, didn't
shield him from that. But if he's telling him to
lock in, get out of his way and let him
tell him, let him lift the man in his eye,
tell him lock in, because that's the truth of what
needs to happen here, and that's accountability from the locker room.
There has to be. You don't get exempt from accountability
because you're a kicker. Well, you're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And this San Francisco forty nine er team has been
knocking on the door of the Super Bowl since you
were there, Richard. I mean, this window is slowly shrinking, shrinking, shrinking,
and I think that frustration what you see, you know,
with situations like debo, is because of that. He knows
how important these games are. These are must win games
in a tight divisional race. I mean we just saw

(04:43):
Arizona knock the brakes out of the Jets. I mean
they are a top of this division right now. And
then you got the Rams and obviously the Seattle Seahawks
nipping at their heels as well. These games are crucial.
Fortunately for them, they come away with the win. And
they were leaning on CMC a bit, I mean six
or seve options for sixty eight yards. One of those
catches was a big ball down the right sideline, huge

(05:06):
over the shoulder catch for them to keep that drive alive.
And then you see him told the rock thirteen times
for thirty nine yards. How big of an impact is
CMC for this offense, Rich It's huge, Metch It's.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Huge because of what Kittle says. He just has an
r He brings so much attention from the defense. He
brings attention from the guy game planning Todd Bowles. They
understand what they have to do to prepare for him.
And he still made huge impacts in his game that
thirty yard catch, and it was near the end of
the game. It was crucial. It was critical, a critical drive.
Rock Purdy was standing in the pocket delivering play after

(05:40):
play on that drive, one of his best games. When
they had to have it a dime to Kittle under
pressure the throat to CMC. He had to release so
early because he had unblocked pressure in his face, so
he had to let the ball go before CMC was
even looking and put enough loft on it for CMC
to be able to locate it, get under it, catch it,

(06:03):
and it was still a dime hit him in stritch.
MC was able to make a move. It was really
cool to just see him back out there, not in pain,
doing what he loves to do and looking like the
player we all know him to be.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
And then you look at Jawan Jennings, you know, freshot
off the injured list as well, comes in huge games,
seven receptions for ninety three yards, and then we talked
about it. Ricky Purcell, he comes in with a catch,
you know, for a touchdown, his first of his career.
It looks like the forty nine ers have their weapons back.
Brandon Ayuk being out for the season obviously is a

(06:34):
huge blow to this team, but the weapons still are there.
They're in house. I think this Niners team went healthy,
can be one of those competitors in the NFC. The
NFC is wide open outside of my Honolulu Blue and
silver Detroit Lions, who knock on wood hopefully will walk
away with this NFC and take the number one seed.

(06:55):
The last team I want to see in the playoffs
is the San Francisco forty nine Ers. For this reason,
brock Perty is a gamer. We talked about this extensively
last year. This year, I mean, three hundred and fifty
three yards, two touchdowns in a game where they're trailing late. Richard,
you can say whatever you want about Brock, but this

(07:16):
guy is a top flight NFL quarterback. On the other
side of things, Baker Mayfield, Man, I mean, this guy
is wildly impressive. I know he did not have the
statistical line that we would expect, but that one play
against Nick Bosa had kids in that stands jumping out
of their seats. Where he's holding off the best defensive
end in the NFL, somewhat argue Aden Hutchinson. I might

(07:39):
argue that, but Nick Bosa certainly one of the top
three defensive ends in the NFL. Baker Mayfield's holding him
off with a stiff arm. Richard, how impressive is that
as an athlete to an athlete, seeing Baker Mayfield, a
smaller human being, pulled off this gargantuan Nick Bosa with
one left arm.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, I mean really impressive. It was one of the
most impressive plays of the game, just the part of
the game that was in it was in the situation.
I mean, if he doesn't make that play, the game
is it's pretty much over at that point. And he
makes a huge play. But he's doing so much with
so little talent and so little, so little veteran presence

(08:21):
around him. His number one receiver right now is Kate
Otten a tight end. He's missing his two all Pro receivers.
Mike Evans is still a few weeks out. I don't
know if Chris Godwin will play again this season, and
so when you're when you're dealing with issues like that
and you're playing with their fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh receiver.
To be in a game like this against a team

(08:43):
like the forty nine ers and still have a chance
to win at the end of the game was impressive.
He's been really impressive this season. But even though a
stat line wasn't impressive, it was he's played outstanding. With
all the circumstances surrounding Tampa Bay. They get the bye week,
hopefully get a little healthier, but I think their defense
played pretty good today. Obviously, gave up the touchdown of

(09:05):
Percel and gave us some plays late, but for the
most part, they were putting a lot of pressure on
the quarterback. They're making the plays that were there. It's
gonna be a really interesting game next week against the
Seattle Seahawks for San Francisco forty nine Ers. This game
will be in Levi Stadium. I'm looking forward to seeing
how the Seahawks come off that bye week healthier. You
know what things they changed in their defensive game playing,

(09:26):
what things they've changed offensively to just help Geno Smith
stay upright a little bit longer, because you've seen how
successful they can be when he's when he's standing on
his on ten toes. But this is a great game
for the San Francisco forty nine ers just to see
Christian McCaffrey making plays, and it was cool to see
their superstars make plays when they had to have them

(09:46):
a third and thirteen, they had to get a stop.
Nick Bosa gets comes off the edge, makes it play,
gets the sack of Baker Mayfield on the play on
the drive to tie the game. That you got Kittle
make it touchdown catch, You got McCaffrey catching, You got
Brock Purty delivering the dime. You got George Kittle making
a huge play. You just got all the flavors of

(10:08):
the weekend throughout the game. Juwan Jennings was the player
of the game to me, but because just because of
some of the things that he did that that don't
go on the stat sheet. You know, there was a
fumble where Rock Party got hit from the side and
ball popped out and it looked like it was going
to be Tampa Bay ball and that was going to
be a disaster of a situation. And Juwan Jennings was

(10:30):
able to dive on that football to fight for it
and give San Francisco the ball in that possession and
just just enough to keep the drive alive for them.
I think they ended up putting, but to get a
turnover in that situation would have been detrimental. But let's
talk about our brightling player in pron time, and we
continue to talk about his growth and how he continues

(10:51):
to show up for the San Francisco forty nine ers.
It is Rock Purty shining today. Like you said, three
hundred and fifty three yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, let
this team on a game winning drive. He led him
on a number of drives deep into enemy territory. I
thought he played a fantastic game, and I know he
struggled a little bit this year. He's had some interception issues,

(11:13):
but it looks like every quarterback has had some interception issues.
You look at the top of the interception list and
in some of the best quarterbacks in our National Football
League and you're like, oh, okay, I guess it's one
of those years. You know, you look at Patrick Mahomes
has been either the leader or amongst the leaders in
interceptions this season, and this team is nine to zero,
So it just seems like one of those weird years.

(11:34):
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Sean he's shy. He definitely shining that, Richard.

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to Kansas City. This team is now now nine to zero. Man,
that they cannot lose it. Simply put. The Denver Broncos
come in another divisional game, and as you have said

(12:59):
throughout the last several years, these divisional games are different.
Vegas had a huge spread in this game. I believe
it was nine points, and throughout this game it looked
like it was Denver's game, and it looked like it
was Denver's game down to the final seconds. And I
don't get it, man, Kansas City can win no matter.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
What way, what position you put him in.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Normally it's at the hands of Patrick Mahomes leading him back.
But this time it was a little bit different. A
game winning blocked field goal thirty five yarder walk off.
No thanks, says the Kansas City line. Richard, How good
is this Kansas City team?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I was.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm like, finally the Honolulu Blue can take over that
number one spot in your power ranks.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Not so fast, Mitchell. They got Lee Corso in the
stands somewhere and he's yelling, screaming, shouting. Not so fast,
my friend. This defensive Kansas City Chiefs team is very
difficult to beat because my homes isn't the thing you
need to worry about, Mitchell. And that's why, even when

(14:07):
he's not on the field, you need to be concerned,
because that defense is elite and that Spagnola, I mean
that Spag's defense continues to make plays. And this d
line made a play when they had to when time expired,
and it looks like all hope is lost. There's a
rabbit foot. There's a lucky rabbit's foot in somebody sock.

(14:28):
I don't know if it's Andy Reid's, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey.
It might be in Taylor Swift's shoot because she was there. Mitchell,
and I just think when you gotta go on, Mitchell,
and you continue to believe we've had multiple Kansas City
chiefs on this podcast. We had Justin Reid and we
had McDuffie, and they continue to talk about the culture
and guys continuing to believe, regardless of the circumstance, even

(14:53):
to the point of where it seems to be insane
to believe it's gonna turn around. And I tweeted it
when they were down fourteen to three. I was like, Oh,
what's going on in Kansas City? But something tells me
it's gonna They're gonna come back, And of course they did. Mitchell.
Of course, in a situation where it looks like there's
no freaking way they win this game. I feel like

(15:14):
every week we're saying, there's no way they win this one.
There's no way. How many seconds are left, there's no
way he can do it this time, how much time
is left? And this time you're like, he's not even
on the field. He has no chance. They didn't ran
the time off, Patrick mahonks can't do it this time.
Look you gotta see finally finally, Yeah, no, no, his

(15:35):
defense comes through and shines. They're just a team that
finds a way to win. It's the epitome of finding
a way to win. Their defense played good, and you
gotta give boon Nicks a lot of credit. Bon Knicks
played a great game in a very tough environment against
a very tough defense. He needed just a few more plays,
and that seems to be the case every single week
against the Kansas City Chiefs. You need a few more

(15:57):
plays and this time they only needed one. Or Mitchell
hold that block one more second, but you didn't. Well,
you want to hear a crazy stat. The Chiefs have
won nine straight games when they trail by seven plus points.
They're on a fifteen game win streak.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's the longest in the NFL since the Packers in
twenty eleven, and they're off to a franchise best nine
to oh start. They're the fifth Super Bowl champ to
start nine to oh the following season. You touched on
it a bit with the Broncos, though they seem to
have found themselves a keeper at the quarterback position with
bo Nicks, and you see the maturity in his game.
He's getting his vets involved. Cortland Sutton has turned around

(16:37):
this last month. Another touchdown in this game. Do you
have any hope with Denver? I mean, now at five
hundred and five and five. Do you think they can,
you know, turn things around and sneak into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I don't know, mitchell. I just don't know what's gonna
happen at the end of the season. They're a team
that you can you really feel good about their defense,
and especially when Patricks certains in there, they get a
lot of pressure on the quarterback. I didn't like them
losing Baron Browning and trade them away, but you know,
I thought he was a really cool part of their
pass rush, and their pass rushes really verge on the

(17:11):
verge of being elite. But they needed this win. They
needed this win for me to feel really good about
their chances at the playoffs, to feel good about what
bow Nicks and his growth. And I was metchell I
was buying him mo Knicks was making plays early on
the offense, kind of stalled in the second half, Kansas
City got the points and then he drives them down
the field, and I think, Man, Okay, this is gonna

(17:33):
be a team. This is gonna be a really statement
win for them, something we can talk about. The only
loss for the Kansas City Chiefs a division game, et cetera,
et cetera. But it didn't happen, So you know, maybe
this is the season of what ifs. Of man, it's
a game of benches and if they would have had this,
and if if they would have had this, and if
they would have had this, they would have been in
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(17:54):
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Speaker 3 (18:05):
A team that is and frankly, in my opinion, proven
themselves week after week is this Pittsburgh Steelers team. They
go on the road against a red hot Washington Commanders
team and steal a win twenty eight to twenty seven.
Russell Wilson Richard, I mean, he threw his first interception
in the last eleven months. The keys to this car

(18:26):
were given to him, and he's gone three to zero
in his starts, and frankly, Pittsburgh's offenses look a lot
more fluid. He's getting guys involved. George Pickens looks like
a true number one wide out now and five catches
for ninety one yards and a touchdown and they go
and get this big win against Washington. Where's your head
at with this Pittsburgh Steelers team, Because everyone, I guess

(18:50):
assume that you know, the Baltimore Ravens would inevitably take
over this division. The Steelers are saying they're turning a
little league course, so two not so fast, my friend.
The Steelers are a force to be reckon with. What
are your thoughts on the Steelers team?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
They're very impressive and this was their most impressive win
of the season in my opinion, because you talk about
a guy who I think was the front runner before
this game for Coach of the Year, and Dan Quinn
had this team rolling, scoring a lot of points, playing
inspired football, winning close games like this, and this Pittsburgh
Steelers team again, Mike Tomlin is probably leading candidate for

(19:27):
Coach of the year. From what you expected this team
to be to what they are right now seven and
two leading that very tough division. I think he deserves
a ton of credit. And Russell Wilson deserves a ton
of credit for the three games that he's been able
to win. He's played really good football. Like you said,
this team is built like the Seattle Seahawks were back
in the day, really great defense, pass rush is getting home,

(19:49):
and he just needs to do enough. You know, he
doesn't need to play crazy out of his mind football.
He was fourteen to twenty eight today. But don't make
a ton of mistakes. Don't turn the ball over. He
did have the one in the but they were able
to styn me that and then make plays when they
had to, and he made a huge play when they
had to have it, pressure in his face, off his
back foot. The game winning touchdown to Mike Williams with

(20:10):
two minutes to go in the ball game was a
dime of a pass on third and nine when his
team had to have it. I don't think Mike Williams
has unpacked his bag yet, and he was able to
catch his first touchdown of the season. Obviously, the issues
in New York were well documented. You know, the microscope
was on that team, so he you know, a fresh

(20:31):
start for him, and to come into this team and
be able to make an immediate impact in a very
meaningful ball game was huge for him and huge for
his rapport with Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson continues to
feed George Pickens in a way that I'm sure George
Pickens and his family appreciate. He's looking like the player
they thought when they drafted him, making huge plays, acrobatic catches.

(20:51):
His catching the end zone is one of the best
that you will see in the National Football League. He
just has incredible body control, really great quickness for somebody
his size, and then he got a little bit of
psychopath and Mitchell I've seen there were some plays in
that game where he completely lost his mind and I
respect it. I respect it. You very rarely see players
with that kind of mindset on the offensive side of
the ball. He seems like a defensive player to me,

(21:13):
but he didn't let it get him out of his
element and continue to make plays and and and push forward.
You got guys on that defense that are that are
defined father time, like Cam Hayward, who had two sacks
in this game. One of the the unsung heroes of
this game and the one of the leaders and veterans
on this team that that Mike Tomlin called out and

(21:35):
put a lot of pressure on last season and said, hey,
you might be done. He came out and he has
responded beautifully this season, having one of his best seasons
in the National Football League. In year thirteen ors this
fourteen for camp You know this is that that thirteen
for cam Our fourteen, It's gotta be fourteen. It would
have been fourteen for me. Yeah. Yeah, that's incredible, Mitchell,

(21:58):
and you you gotta, you just got to give a
lot of credit for the way he's coached this team,
the way he's pushed him forward, regardless of the controversy.
The decision to start Russell Wilson after Justin Field started
four and two. You know, those kind of decisions are
are ones that a lot of coaches wouldn't make because
of what the results could be and how the impact
could change this team. And it was beautifully handled. This

(22:21):
team has continued on an upward trajectory. I'm looking very
much forward to their game when they play the Baltimore
Ravens next week.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
The two huge games. I mean, you look at Steelers
are hosting the Ravens and this Commanders teams gets a
huge test being on the road in Philadelphia game Thursday
night football. Huge game for you, Richard, that you will
be at. Ever since Russ took over, these last three games,
this offense has averaged thirty points a game. It's just remarkable.

(22:52):
On the other side of the fence, we had the
Washington Commanders, and like you said, this was a tough matchup.
The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is one of the best in
the league. And J Daniels kind of had a whole
home day seventeen to thirty four, you know, fifty percent
completion percentage, two hundred two yards. You think this was
his welcome to the NFL moment. I don't know if
it was You're welcome to the NFL moment.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think you got to throw a few interceptions, a
few pick sixes, you know, just have a overall, you know,
one of those terrible, terrible, overall, very bad days. Mits whan.
I don't think this was a very bad day for
a rookie quarterback. I thought he's facing a very tough
defense in the Pittsburgh Steelers. I thought he made the
plays that were there, gave his team a chance. They

(23:33):
just didn't make up enough plays at the end, obviously
to get the win. I thought Austin Eckler made a
ton of huge plays for him. Dante Fowler continues to
show up. He's played six games and has six sex,
so you got to give him some credit. That defense
played better than they had. But I'm excited to see
this team against the Philadelphia Eagles coming off a huge
win against Dallas Cowboys. In Jerry's world, which is which

(23:57):
just seems to be where you come in and get
a win these days. I mean, they used to. I
think they won seventeen straight and now they can't get
a win to save their lives, you know, Mitchell, It's
it's things changed, you know. The world comes at you fast.
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Speaker 3 (24:26):
I mean, I gotta always have to pull up the
stats here, but it's safe to say Dallas has got
blown out at home the last several games, and this one,
you know, the defense finally get Marco Parson's back. The
defense is trying to hold this team in the game,
you know, in the first half, and it's just it's
not enough. It's sixty minutes of football and you could

(24:47):
just tell this defense was worn out. Cooper Rush could
not do anything forty five yards passing, and that I
didn't even make a mistake there. Richard twenty three attempts
forty five yards pass. I mean that is less than
two yards in attempt, and he lost two fumbles, one
of which snap low snap, but it still hit him
right in the hands. Turns the ball over to the

(25:07):
Eagles in the red zone, and then we get to
see Trey Lance, your buddy from San Francisco, gets another
opportunity before we turn to the Eagles. Where does Dallas
go from here? The season appears to be over, they're
three and six. Where the heck did they go from here?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Mitchell? They go back to the drawing board, Mitchell, and
you know what they do. They race everything on it
and tell everybody, Hey, thank you for your service, like
they like, they thank you for your service. We really
appreciate everything you did for Dallas. But will Well this way,
there's some coaches that could probably stay on that staff.
I think Al Harris has done an amazing job with

(25:46):
that secondary and just over the years had an incredible impact.
They've led the league in turnovers multiple guys. You know,
we talked about Deron Bland and then Trey Diggs and
what they've done with the interceptions. But the scheme just
changed so dramatically under the Zimmer that you just you're
not seeing the same impact because it's hard to make
plays in that defense. It's one of those ben but

(26:07):
don't break, like keep the shell over it, et cetera,
et cetera. But very predictable. But they got to start over.
They gotta find a new coach and fans gotta start
having realistic expectations. They've had the greatest line in the
NFL for so long. It's obviously been a Philadelphia Eagles
for so long. I mean for the last couple of years,
but for decades they've had such a fantastic and formidable

(26:31):
offensive line. You take it for granted. So now that
you don't have an offensive line, they're like, what's going
on with Deak? What's going on with this? No, what's
going on with the run game? We don't have the backs.
I'm gonna let you know something. Emmitt Smith couldn't run
behind this offensive line that they have right now and
have success because nobody's blocking, And they're gonna have to
address that in the draft. It's looking like they're gonna

(26:52):
have a very high draft pick, and I'm sure a
lot of people are gonna be sitting there saying, Travis Hunter,
Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter. You do not have the luxury
of drafting a Travis Hunter right now. You better draft
than the trenches or this. Every season is gonna end
like this. One is people hitting your quarterback repeatedly. Then
you go to the backup quarterback and everybody, every Dallas fan,

(27:14):
and don't look away now, do not look away now,
Dallas fans, because some of you guys were sitting there saying,
Derek Deuk, Derek, get sit him down, bench of Bencher.
I want to see Cooper Rush. I want to see
Cooper Rush. And do not tell me nobody was saying it,
because they were saying it. And we can go back
and they might be deleting those tweets as we speak,
after thirteen or twenty five attempts for forty five yards.

(27:35):
They're deleting a lot of tweets. They're sitting there, Mitchell,
They're deleting. And I don't blame him because he is
not the answer. Nobody is the answer when when this
offensive line is not able to protect. He lost a
couple of fun moves we talked about lost. Now he
did not play well Trey Lance came in, not enough
to really really judge him off of, you know, just

(28:00):
six attempts, he at four completions, but yet through the interception,
then another turnover when Ferguson just drops the ball. But
I don't know, Mitchell, I don't think you could. You're
pretty much at a point where you're gonna have to
wrap this season up and and consider it a lost
calls and start preparing for the draft next year. You know,

(28:21):
play some young guys, let some guys get some experience,
and see what you have left in a cupboard, because
right now you got a lot of guys. And you
got the Washington Commanders. They're a better team than you.
You got the Philadelphia Eagles, they just blew you out
at home. They're a better team than you. And I
know it's a hard peel to swallow for Dallas fans,
but this may be the one, the rebuilding season that

(28:41):
they need, new head coach, new regime. I'm sure they're
gonna be clamoring for your guy, Ben Johnson. I'm sure
there's gonna be some Bill Belichick talk, because why wouldn't
you It's Dallas. I'm sure I'm gonna say something about prime.
Why wouldn't die? But it's not. If they continue with
Mike McCarthy after this season, I would be incredibly surprised

(29:04):
just because of how bad this season is gone. It
looks like Dak Prescott's going to be on IR the
rest of the season. Mitchell. They're looking down a dark tunnel, Mitchell,
without a lot of hope.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, and just imagine being a first time season ticket
older the Dallas Cowboys. You're so excited for this new season,
this team that was highly competitive last year. They're zero
and four at home. Rich they've lost. I just looked
it up. They lost their four games by combined ninety
four points. That's twenty three and a half points per

(29:36):
game on average. They are losing, So uh yeah, it
might be time to hit that factory reset button in Dallas.
But with the Eagles now, they take over the lone,
number one spot of the NFC East and they look
very very good doing it. Jalen Hurts ht himself a
great game, your boy, AJ Brown, Always open. AJ Brown

(29:57):
five catches for a one oh nine. You know what's
your thoughts on Philly? Because to me, as a Detroit
Lions fan, thinking ahead and down the Road Like obviously
I already said I'm nervous about the Diners, But Philly
is another one of those teams you do not want
to face them in the crunch, you know, especially in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
What do you think of Philadelphia? Yeah, I think they're
gonna be a tough out for anybody. They have. They
just too talented offensively. They struggled a lot early in
this game. It seemed like the Micah Parsons effect was incredible.
He forced a force fumble for from from Jalen Hurts

(30:36):
in the pocket in their own territory. I thought, I thought, Dallas,
that would be their chance to steal the momentum score
touchdown there they were unable to. They they fumble a
ball in the red zone or at the goal line,
Ezekiel Elliott gives it up. Uh. So, you just there
were so many opportunities where you thought this could be
a lot better of a game than it was. Their

(30:58):
offense looked a little sloppy, but then Hurts through it
to all day, always open aj Brown and their connection
has never been better. You You just that's where if
you're an opposing team, you're concerned because you look at
that offense and you see the All Pro season at
sakuon Barkley's having, you already know what Devontae Smith can do.
H Dallas Goddard a lot of times gets involved right

(31:21):
when he needs to. For Jalen Hurts, He's a safety
valve for him, and so there's so many weapons. That
offensive line is still very formidable, and then defensively, it
seems like they're starting to find their rhythm a little
bit more than they had earlier season in the season,
especially their defensive line. But I don't know, I don't
I don't put it. I don't have a lot of
people beating the Boys in Honolulu Blue in the playoffs

(31:42):
with the way they're running the ball, the way Jared
Goff is executing that offense, the way their defense is playing,
and they just got better acquiring a pass rusher, which
I thought they would do. So I'm thinking that that
team is just gonna continue to improve and continue to
especially defensively, show people what they can do.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
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Speaker 3 (33:38):
Guys, let's go to Arizona. This game had a lot
of implications in the NFC West and I know also
in the AFC East. I mean, this Jets team, fresh
off of win last week, finally turned things around. Their
you know, hopes are high entering the season. A lot
of folks thought, hey, they might go on the road
and take care of Arizona. No Arizona and Kyler Murray.

(34:01):
You know, Kyler Murray is a force pre injury. This
is kind of the Kyler Murray we were seeing. But
he seemed to mature a bit and they were talking
about it on the game broadcast about how just chill
he is and going twenty two of twenty four two
sixty six a touchdown. We saw him, you know, rush
another two win. This Arizona Cardinals team is coming to life,

(34:24):
and we saw Marvin Harrison Junior get involved heavily. You know,
I know, as a fan of the AFC NFC West,
you probably didn't want to see Arizona win. But they're
looking like a very formidable opponent going into a bye week. Now,
what are your thoughts on Arizona Rich.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
They're looking really good. I mean, this is one of
the best games that I've seen from Kyler Murray. He
looked really good in the pocket. Look look focus, confident, accurate,
under under control. He took an incredible hit from Quincy Williams,
got up, shook it off through a touchdown play pass
a few plays later to Marvin Harrison Junior, and they

(35:01):
just look so different. Even in the game where James
Connert started to struggle a little bit, they found another
running back, Trey Benson, who has a very good game
for them. They still run for one forty seven as
a team. Defensively, they looked really, really good again. A
lot of guys just blue Coylar, hard working guy Buddha

(35:21):
Baker who's been second in the NFL and tackles has
a sack all over the field as he has been
the entire season. Just a collective effort from a lot
of guys, and you got to give Jonathan Gann a
ton of credit for what he's been able to build.
They continue to become a more consistent team. And so
after some concerning games from early on in the Cardinals season,

(35:45):
you look at the blowout loss to Commanders at home
where they lost forty two to fourteen, and you look
at the loss to Green Bay, you think, man, this team,
this team is going to be very good. They'll go
up and down, but right now they've been playing consistent,
good football. Kyler Murray has been more consistent each and
every week. Their defense is more consistent to hold this

(36:05):
Jets team, who again we thought was finding their rhythm
to six points overall, held Aaron Rodgers to under two
hundred yards, passing Devonte Adams only six catches for thirty
one yards. You got to give them a ton of credit.
They look really good. They're at the top of the
NFC West and it's going to be a crazy dog
fight down the stretch, some really fun games, very relevant

(36:27):
games versus the Arizona Cardinals and the rest of the
NFC West. I can't wait for that. They're going into
a bye week feeling really good. The Jets go to
the Colts, all right, host the Colts next week. Who
didn't look very good today. Joe Facco threw a number
of interceptions in a pick six, But that game is
looking less and less relevant as both teams continue to struggle.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
We've talked about it. It's been well chronicled down this
Richard Truman podcast, the disdain towards Woody Johnson's handling of
this team midseason, firing your guy, Roberts Sala. What do
you think is going through Robert Sala's head right now,
rich seeing the Jets just struggle mightily without him.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
He's not feeling good about it because he wanted this
team to have success. He wanted to prove that at
least the things that he put into place worked. He
still cares about the guys that are playing for the
New York Jets, so nothing positive is going through his mind.
You know, it's unfortunate. He's said that he didn't get
to go down with the ship with his guys and
coach them all the way throughout the season as he

(37:27):
would have wanted to. But this is what happens when
you fire your coach mid season or five games into
the season. You inject unnecessary chaos, a necessary division, a
necessary drama into the franchise, and franchise that's already highly scrutinized,
and so I feel bad for the players. You know,
I had a lot of high hopes for the Jets.
It's looking like another disappointing season for them and their fans,

(37:51):
and it just not the way I want to see it.

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up like this, is my too far fetched to say
the Arizona Cardinals could win this division.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
You're not very far fetched, Mitchell. They've they've beat the
teams in this division that you didn't think they would beat.
They blew the Rams out early in the season. They
beat the San Francisco forty nine ers in the game.
I didn't think the San Francisco forty nine ers would lose,
So it's really not far fetched at all. They're already
leading this division. They're only getting better.

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(39:12):
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let's go to Chicago. This was a team in desperate
need of a win. They are falling below five hundred
and now at four and five. I think the story
of the day here is Caleb Williams. You know, everyone
thought more than likely Chicago is going to get back

(39:34):
on track playing the New England Patriots. Well, I got
news for you. New England Patriots are a different team
now that Drake May is under center, and they showed
it today that they're playing with new life, and they
got after Caleb Williams, sacking him nine times, and I
want to rewind it. I want to rewind it about
six weeks ago when you had you were at the

(39:54):
Chicago Bears throats for drafting Roma Doonsay, and not because
Roma Doonsay is not a very good player. I'm sure
he's going to be a great player in this league.
I loved him out of Washington. But you're talking about
specifically team needs. When you draft a quarterback number one
overall in Caleb Williams, you want to surround him with
beasts up front, and that's what Chicago just does not have.

(40:16):
And when you take a shell acking at home against
the New England Patriots nineteen to three, that's got to
be a tough pill to swallow for the Chicago Bears
fan base. Richard, what are your thoughts on this game?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, you got to give the New England Patriots a
lot of credit. They got after it. Nine sacks in
the ballgame, they got after him, put pressure on him
in a lot of different ways, held him to three
points overall, and they have struggled on deepense. So give
credit where credit is due, but Caleb Williams Mitchell has
to be feeling like Keith Sweat. I don't know if
you know a lot about Keith Sweat Mitchell, but he

(40:48):
has a hit song called Nobody. Mitchell. I'm gonna give
you a few bars that that I thought would be
relevant to Caleb Williams right now, Mitchell, because he's asking
who is blocking for me? Nobody? Who is I gotta
start I gotta start over. I gotta get this.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
You want me to be like a backup dancer in
this Red.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Mitchell. This this bears offensive line has Caleb Williams feeling
like keep Sweat because he's asking who is blocking for me? Mitchell?

Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's nobody who is protecting me?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
My baby singing with me?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Mitchell, No, nobody, and the fans keep screaming, now hold
hold hold it too long? He just hold hold holds
it too long? Hold hold holds it too long? Nobody baby, Hey.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Yeah, Okay, They're gonna have nobody in the fans or
nobody in the stands here later in the season if
they keep playing like this, Rich I I love that rendition, man,
I'm gonna have to fire that up on Spotify after
we get off here, But.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, we gotta go on Spotify. I get it on
Apple Music. Everybody, thank you. You know the song only single.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
The song is gonna be trending after this, Richard. Caleb
Williams struggled mightily. I mean, how does he go up
from here? Because the way you just put it, it's
going down fast. Where is there any hope on the
horizon for Caleb Williams and the Bears team?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Mitchell, where can he go but up? When you have
the flat bottom? They were one for fourteen on third down.
You got sat nine times, Mitchell. He's on his back
the whole day. So he's on his back, Mitchell. All
you can do is get up. He was doing a
lot of it. So we're gonna have to do it
one more a tenth time. You're gonna have to get
up off the mat, and this whole team is gonna
have to get up off the mat. This defense is

(43:05):
what I'm another part of what I'm concerned with because
they've been the strength of this team. And when you
got a young quarterback like that, your defense is what
you gotta lean on. You gotta be able to put
pressure on an opposite quarterback. Drake Mays, the rookie. The
offensive line for the Patriots hasn't played well. I thought
this Bears defense would feast, absolutely feast on this team.

(43:28):
They don't really have a true number one receiver that
is respected like that in this National Football League, so
I thought they would get after Caleb Williams. I did
not see him struggling the way he did in this game,
but who can't struggle when you're hit and sacked that
many times again. You can have all the weapons in
the world, Chicago Bears fans, if you cannot keep the

(43:50):
quarterback up right, then you never get to see him.
And so you could you sit there and it just
reminds me of the the Bugatti that's parked under the
weather stall in that picture that Mean Mitchell, where it's like, man,
but the tires are flat. There's nothing you doing with
that car because it's just a million dollar car with

(44:12):
a god dang dollar store offensive line. And so that's
what you're gonna get, Mentell, that's what you're gonna get.
You're gonna get a nine sack performance where you never
get to see the guy actually shine and be talented.
And he's had games this season where you saw flashes
of what he got drafted to do and what made
him special. But I just felt like for the future
of this franchise, and offensive lineman would have would have

(44:34):
gone a lot further. And people are like, well, we
invested in an offensive line a couple of times, and
some of these guys are draft picks. You never stop.
That's one thing you'll find out is you do not stop.
There's not there's no never too many good offensive linemen
to have on your team. And that's what they're finding out, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
And I can speak from being a fan of the
Detroit Lions, and the whole reason this Detroit Lion team
turned around is because they invested in the trenches. You
go out and you draft penn a Stool over the
luxury Adams. All the fans here and Detroit, a lot
of them want to do justin fields in that draft,
and they go and draft penn a Seool. Who is
I mean, they might as well give him a gold
jacket right now. He looks like Trent Williams, you know,

(45:13):
a twenty four year old version of Trent Williams. And
then you got Taylor Decker, you got Frank Raig, now
you got the guards. If an injury happens, they got
replacements for him. The Bears don't have that luxury. We're
nine games into this tenure for Caleb Williams. Do you
still believe in him being the number one pick? Do
you still have that belief that he can be a
franchise quarterback?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I don't know, Minchel. It's not to be decided over
the first ten games of your career. You know. I'm
not that knee jerk, especially with a guy like this.
We've given other guys plenty of time to figure out
if they're a franchise quarterback or now and again, I
need him to be upright with with a competent offensive
scheme consistently for me to see that and judge that

(45:54):
he has the weapons. He has a lot of the rest,
but somebody has to coach him to get the ball
out quicker. And at times you thought, uh, oh, the
switch flip. He's getting the ball out quicker. They're they're
doing screen passes. There, there's motion in the offense, there's creativity.
You're like, bang, there it is, and then it disappears.
You know, way, what what is this? What this doesn't

(46:15):
look like the team we were watching before, and so
I'm not ready to judge him really at all, but
I know that right now it's Jaydon Daniel. If you
ask me who's the best player in this in this
class is it's Jayden Daniels. And it's not even coach
offensive Player of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the Year.
I mean it's going to Jaydon Daniels. It doesn't mean
Kayler Williams is a Boston isn't gonna be a great

(46:37):
player in this league. It means it's his first year
and he's not starting off as fast as the other guy.
But a lot of things can change. He could, he
could go out and show out. But getting sacked nine times.
Some of the players are on him, but some of
it is on that offensive line. They blitze, they blitz
rookie quarterbacks metro and they're gonna continue to blitz him.
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Speaker 3 (48:16):
The other rookie quarterback in this game was Drake May
and we saw him last week, you know, with a huge,
huge game to throw a huge play to throw that
game into overtime against Tennessee. And I know they're playing Tennessee,
but it plays like that that show you, Okay, this
guy is really talented. And like you said, Patriots do
not have the weapons on the outside that the Bears have.

(48:36):
I mean, certainly, if Drake May had the Bears receiving
corps in New England, I mean you'd be thinking, Holy cow,
this guy's got a lot to work with. What are
your impressions of Drake May because this is a huge
road win for a young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah. I again, it's just like though Nick's you know,
he's getting some reps, he's getting some great experience. He
had a careless turnover. He talked about it after the game.
He wishes he could have that one back. But overall,
he played not to lose the game and gave his
team a chance to win. You know, he made plays
when it needs to have him, didn't make a ton
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(49:13):
And this has been a really good Chicago Bears defense.
So you can see the growth there. You could see
why they started Jacoby Brissett early on. You could see
the difficulties this offensive line is having. But this is
growth from him. That's two wins for him and they
only got three.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
There you go, well the Bears. The Bears haven't scored
a touchdown in twenty one straight possessions. They finished one
and fourteen on third down today. They'll have an opportunity
against the Packers next week and the Pats will host
the Rams, So maybe we'll be talking a little bit
more about the Pats if Drake Making can keep this
magic alive for the New England Patriots. But Richard, that

(49:51):
concludes our Week ten I guess Sunday recap here before
we wrap, I want to talk real quick about the
Thursday night game because you were there in Baltimore and
it was a doozy you were you were on the
goal line on the field watching that two point conversion,
and I know you talked about it with me after
the game. You like that call to go for it

(50:12):
there as the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean to share your
thoughts about that, because I think there would be a
lot of Monday morning quarterbacks saying, hey, just just put
it in an ot but you thought differently, No.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Because there's a lot of people that that that's why
you don't go places in life. Mitchell because you're not
taking the risk you gotta go to get to where
you need to go. You gotta take risks sometimes and
you gotta go get it. You don't win games. You
don't play not to lose games. You play to win them.
And when you're an underdog on the road with Lamar
Jackson playing the way he was playing and your down
t Higgins already, Jamar Chase is having a game of

(50:46):
his life, catches the game winning touchdown. I mean the
game tye. Are you know what appear to be the
game tying touchdown? You go for it. You got Joe
Burrow at quarterback. You give yourself. You play to win
the game. And I know people are like, like, send
it toe t. If Lamar Jackson touches that ball first
and all to y'all lost and maybe Joe Burrow gets

(51:07):
it and maybe you guys have a chance, but no,
you can win the game right now and walk away.
You're on the road, you're underdogs. You win that game
right there, and if they complete a pass. There's too
many good plays on too minute plays. I wish I
wish people would study Bill Walsh and what they used
to do in the red zone or inside the five

(51:27):
because every the game hasn't evolved enough. Everybody still plays
man to man inside the five yard line. So the
Jerry Rice motion where you snap the ball behind the
line of scrimmage and the dB has to basically guess
where he's going from here, it's still touchdowns in the
National Football League. And only team that seems to figure
that out is the Kansas City Chiefs. They did it

(51:47):
in the Super Bowl. I want to say they did
it multiple times. They've done it a ton of times,
and they find a way to win and win Super
Bowls and win championships. But I don't know. I thought,
I think that's all the right call. I think when
you're underdogs, are the momentum has been against you all game.
Like at that point, Baltimore had the momentum. They were marching,

(52:10):
they were scoring touchdowns, they were feeling good. You're on
the road in Baltimore, you go for two. I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Well, that concludes this week's podcast. Rich I will let
you sign us off. Well, thank you guys for joining
us on the Richard Truman Podcast. We could go anywhere
in the world to get your NFL information, but you're
here with us. And we appreciate you so much.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
We can't wait to see you next week and figure
out who's gonna win this game between the Detroit Lions
and the Houston Texans. Mitchell, of course, thinks it's Honlolulu
Blue Boys are gonna get it done. But the Houston
Texans get Nico Collins back at the best possible time,
and I'm anxious to see how that goes. Appreciate you
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If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

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Stuff You Should Know

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