November 12, 2024 • 39 mins
Colin looks at the Dolphins remaining schedule after their win over the Rams on Monday night and believe they could be the sneaky team to make a run in the AFC
The Chicago Bears need to get the right coaching staff for Caleb Williams
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Nick Wright. In one hour from now, former Bears and
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minutes from now. Well, a dud by the Rams last night.
Jamac a complete, absolute dud. But it did feel like
to me twenty three point fifteen dollars win over the
La Rams. It was the rare NFL game in the
middle of a season that I thought could have turned
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around a franchise, and this happens in the NFL a lot.
I'll get to that in a second. But to his healthy,
he was tremendous on third down should have beaten Buffalo,
and they dominated a Rams team on the key down,
third down offense, third down defense. And remember this, schedules matter.
The schedule gets really easy for the Dolphins, Jets twice,
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Brown's new England Raiders easiest remaining NFL schedule. So every
season there is a team in about Week nine, ten
to eleven that catches fire. Last year it was the Rams.
Remember they won seven of their last eight. They were
a bad team, unhealthy, then they got hot, went to
the playoffs. Twenty twenty two, it was the Bengals. Bengals
were back and forth. They were four and four, got
red hot, went twelve and four, lost close to the
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Chiefs in the AFC Championship. Remember the Brady Buccaneers. People
forget this. They were seven and five going into the
week thirteen by and the schedule lightened up Detroit Atlanta
a couple times. Detroit wasn't as good as they are now.
All of a sudden, Bruce Arians Brady are clashing. They're
seven and five, they go into a bye, they get
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red hot. This happens every year. And I look at
Miami schedule, I look at the way they played. They
should have beaten Buffalo, the schedule gets weak. Listen, the
Rams have a great coach, an excellent quarterback, and a
good young roster, especially on defense. And I mean that game.
I don't care what the score was. The Rams were
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chasing the Dolphins for three and a half hours. That
was the Dolphins game from the very first drive. And
you know what I've said before, there are limitations to
what Tua can do. But in that second half and
on third down, he went for the game nine of
twelve for one hundred and forty yards just on third down.
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And that is an excellent, young, albeit young, excellent Rams
defensive front, and he tore them apart. So we can
say what we want about Tua. He may have limitations,
but I watch him in Buffalo on the road, then
fly cross country against that Rams defensive front, and Tua
was exceptional. This is a good team and the rest
of the division New England's going nowhere Jets or man overboard.
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Buffalo has already won this thing three weeks ago, so
like this is a real time for Miami. I've seen
Cincinnati do this. I saw Brady won a Super Bowl.
I saw the Rams do it last year. Rams schedule
gets harder this may have been the game that starts
them careening down the wrong path. But I felt, and
I don't feel this a lot. You get to like
week ten and eleven, you kind of know what you have.
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But TOA didn't play, they were banged up, they couldn't
be healthy, and their backup situation at quarterback in Miami's
actually one of the worst in the league, so backup
quarterbacks not very good. Schedule was tougher. Now the schedule
lightens up. Two is healthy. I gotta be honest. I
watched that game last night, and I have high regard
for the Rams staff. They got worked, they got out coached, out,
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hustled out, toughed outplay stafford wasn't as good on third
down as two it was. Here's two after the game
and what the win could mean.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think it's, you know, a testament to the character
of this team. We've come a long way through, however,
many losses in a row. The resilience of this team,
with the external noise, everyone counting us out. You know,
hopefully this is an opportunity for us to not waste.
You know, hopefully we can go on a run with
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this win and find our rhythm towards the back end
of the season.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, Jets twice. They're a mess, Raiders mess, New England, Limited, Cleveland,
Mass all on the schedule, quarterbacks backed schedule, weekends, and
the rest of the division outside of Buffalo kind of
a mess. I like where Miami's at. Big win for them,
all Right, So this morning we knew something was coming.
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Something had happened, the first of many moves over the
next few months. Shane Waldron Bears offensive coordinator out. It
doesn't really matter whose fault it is. So Chicago's got
a lot of things working against him here. Number one is,
you just missed on another young quarterback, Justin Fields, and
you screwed that up. Although I don't think he's nearly
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as good a prospect or a player as Caleb Williams.
But you missed on that. See, you're not gonna you
don't get any excuses. Now you don't get a guy. Well,
we missed on Trubisky, we missed on Justin Fields, we
missed on Caleb Williams. No, it's coaching. The second thing
is Caleb Williams. Maybe he wasn't Andrew Luck as a prospect.
Maybe he wasn't even Joe Burrow as a prospect, but
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most executives thought the dude could really play. His comp
was Mahomes, Trubisky and Justin Fields. You're off the hook
a little because they haven't done anything since they left Chicago,
so it's like, wow, they weren't very good. Caleb Williams
is way closer to Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, and Joe Burrow.
NFL executives, if they didn't love him, they thought he
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was a really good, solid prospect. And here's the other thing,
And I think everybody listening or watching the show knows this.
This doesn't help either. Bow Nicks is getting better. He
outplayed Mahomes this weekend. He's getting better fast. Jaden Daniels
he looked good by week two. So all of a sudden,
you start, you know, you start making comps and you're like,
this is an indictment on the franchise. And the other
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thing is it is easy to blame the quarterback. And
I do think all the little flaws with Caleb Williams
runs around a little too much accuracy, a little inconsistent.
They're all flaring up now, you know. I mean Jaden Daniels,
he's a little thin, will he stay healthy. He did
get banged up for one game, but he came. You know,
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he's available bow knicks, not a great deep ball arm.
We've seen that scouts usually know what they're doing, especially
when they all conversion a player and all have similar opinions. Caleb's.
Two nflgms I talked to on Caleb are like big
time athlete. Worry about his consistent accuracy. We've seen that
he has been a big time athlete. But it's your
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job as a football staff to develop young players. It's
like parenting. You know what you're getting into. You draft
a young quarterback, even if they're gifted. You have a
gifted child, it doesn't ensure success. And the other thing
that is really working against Chicago is Caleb. But everybody,
we may forget it now. He had a three game
stretch earlier in the season where we saw the talent. Yeah,
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he had a three game stretch where he completed seventy
four percent of his throws. So we know he's talented.
We saw it when he had less practices and less
games and less reps. So he has just falling off
a cliff, and that's going to go to the coaches
and so something clearly is not working. And you know,
yesterday we had a guest on Matt hasselback eighteen years
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in the league. And again you can point fingers at
whoever you want. Some of it absolutely no quoest question
is on Caleb.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I would say ninety percent of it is on the quarterback.
Like if I'm coaching the quarterback and they were at
nine sacks yesterday, I'm putting at least six of those
on the quarterback. And just like with Russell Wilson, like
we're sitting here talking about the deep ball to Mike Williams,
he knows like that's a blitz situation. Like Caleb, he's
a young quarterback. So I'm not trying to throw stones
at him because of the mistakes. I'm not surprised by
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the mistakes things. Just expectations are going to be higher
because you do have guys like Jaden Daniels playing such
good football, bon Nicks is playing good football, Drake May's
even playing good football, And so I think the Boo
birds are going to be out with Caleb.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't disagree with that, But because you missed on
Trubisky and justin fields, because Caleb has had some really
good weeks this year, and because of the Bear's history
screwing up quarterbacks, it doesn't really matter if it's Caleb's fault,
it's parenting. You got to be up for the challenge.
This is your job to deal with challenges. There are
no easy kids, there are easier kids, there are no
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per the easy kids. It is a challenge and so
that's where we're at today. Shane Walderin's out. I think
there's more to come. I don't buy that Eberflus is safe.
But and you know, I'm not a fan of defensive coaches.
I would go the other way with an offensive coach.
But in fairness, Sean McDermot has had success as a
defensive coach with Josh Allen. John Harbaugh is not an
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offensive coach with Lamar Jackson. Mike Tomlin has had a
great turnaround season offensively with Russell Wilson. Raheem Morris is
working with Kirk Cousins. They lead their division. So it's
you could go defense again, but as I pointed out,
for years with Chicago they're still living off the eighty
five Bears. It's a very defensive, blue collar, tough guy culture.
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That is fine Dave want stat one there, but I
think it's time. If you look at the end of seasons,
the four coaches left, the eight coaches left, it is
overwhelmingly offensive guys, and you've got to fix this kid.
You gotta fix him. I mean again, if you don't
end up giving him him an extension in four years,
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that's gonna be really an indictment. You may just have
to go to the market and buy somebody. But this
may not be a perfect player, but he's way closer
as a comp to a Maholmes, who people privately thought
was a star, thought was the next Farve a lock
A Burrow than he is Trubisky and justin Fields, those
guys had Trubisky. I didn't even get the Dariski thing.
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I'm not a scout like I didn't get it at all.
So there we are. Also, I will say this, Jim Harbaugh,
for all the owners and gms, if you're thinking about
hiring a coach, what the Chargers did should be duplicated.
There's no more Harballs on the market that we know of,
but it should be duplicated. Herd hierarchy top of the hour,
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I was Jay MC. I was actually I like the
Rams last night. I was I was surprised. It was
a fairly lifeless performance. Like I never after the first drive,
Miami just went down the field, clever reverses movement, touchdown.
I thought the Rams were out of sorts for almost
the entire game.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Week ten was strange the whole week around the.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
League, and it was like the Dolphins were one of
the worst defenses in the league for much of the
season and they were incredible last night. They were everywhere.
No Rams receivers open all night. Stafford was really under pressure.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
The Dolphins were thirty first in sacks. Didn't blit. The
Rams were healthier in the on line. They got enormous
pressure with four.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I don't know McDaniel clearly, I don't want to say
saving his job, but listen, they were bad.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
They weren't a bad place Miami.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
And now there all of a sudden in the wild
card mix that I think Thanksgiving game against the Packers
right kind of got very interesting. Yeah, well, we'll say
about the Dolphins, I don't know if I can trust
them yet.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, it was. It was a really interesting night.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
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Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I saw something yesterday.
I didn't hear it live, but I read the story
on it and I want you to listen to it
for a second. So you know, the New York media, everybody, print, radio, TV,
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they all blamed Robert Sala and we kept saying that,
ain't it. It's not the roster, it's not the GM,
it's not Robert Sala. He was easily the best coach
on the staff. It's the quarterback in Green Bay. Everybody
the last several years was walking on eggshells. The team
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was tight in big games. Aaron creates that, and in
New York it's the same thing. Everybody walks and defers
to Aaron. It's like a really high maintenance thing. Jay
Cutler had this because he was so caustic. Everybody walked
on eggshells. You never had that with Brady. Brady was
the biggest start in the game. You never have that
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with Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen or Justin Herbert.
Their stars. Everybody loves him. Herbert is so reluctant to
even give a postgame speech, go bolts everything with Aaron,
smartest guy in the room. Everybody's deferring.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Finally, finally, a New York media person, Boomera Siasn, figured
it out and called it out.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
It's an unmitigated disaster. Aaron Rodgers has completely sucked the
air out of the building. He is a first ballot
Hall of Fame player, one of the great quarterbacks when
he was in his mind that we have ever seen.
Since he has come here, over the last two years,
every player on this team, I feel like has deferred.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Everything to him.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Russell Wilson said something about Mike Williams yesterday, and it
was being reported during the game that when Mike Williams
showed up to Pittsburgh, he showed up with such a
big smile and he was so happy, like he was
so unencumbered by playing for the Jets and with the
Jets and with Aaron Rode Rogers.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let me ask you this, if you had a friend
and you said, he's super moody. He turns on people quickly,
he'll ghost you. He holds grudges. Be like what that's
what guys call a bad hang. Can be good at
the right space, but like like a bad hang, like
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you don't want to invite him to big groups. It's
hard enough to get four guys on a rafting trip
or a Vegas trip. Onezola was an idiot, But I
mean it's like, like, here's what you don't want if
you go out with the guys. A moody guy, you know,
turns on you, holds grudges, very precious, prickly. That's what
Aaron's become. That's what he was at the end of
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Green Bay. And I had that thing sourced. Everybody's walking
on an eggshells. And here's the other thing that needs
to be discussed. Hopefully somebody in the New York media
can can get here, because this is real true. Players
that leave Erin are getting better. Mike Williams first game
got better. Every receiver in Green Bay suddenly flourished, and
players that join Aaron are shrinking. Davonte Adams last year,
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think about this. He had Brian Hoyer, Jimmy Garoppolo, and
Aidan O'Connell. Davante Adams caught sixty percent of his targets
with that group. With Aaron, fifty one percent of his
targets he catches. What does that tell you? It's like
a coach. When Jim Harball left the Niners, they went
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into the tank. When he went to Michigan, they got
good immediately. Don't just judge somebody on what happens when
they arrive, what happens when they leave. All the receivers
in green Bay got better. Davonte Adams was doing better
with backups in Las Vegas than he is now with Aaron.
So finally somebody comes to terms. It's not Robert sla
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Robert Sallett was the best coach by a mile on
that staff. Excellent motivator, excellent defensive. Is he a great
head coach? You're finding out how hard it is? Okay, Colin,
you got something against Aaron? No, I'm speaking the truth now,
Boome Rossiasin is now Mike Williams is nobody's got an
agenda against him. But just say this out loud. Moody
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gets dark fast, grudges, turns on people. Would you want
to go on a camping trip with that? Would you
want that to be the franchise leader? I don't think
you would. For the record, green Bay wins total offense,
scoring offense all up in Jordan Love's first year as
a starter, and Aaron's first year in New York. Up up, up.
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It is a problem. He is not the answer, He
is not the savior, and he is the problem. J
Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
News no no turns. This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Let's start in Dallas, where we have a little bit
of breaking news from earlier this morning. Jerry Jones announced
Dak Prescott will officially miss the rest of the season,
set for surgery on his Hammy. Cowboys will likely turn
to Cooper Rush under center for the rest of the year.
But you know, we could see the other guy, Trey Lance,
who backed up not even capably.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
On Sunday. I think your tank take from last week
is starting to look decent. The only problem is what
are you taking four?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're tanking for a top four spot, and if you
start looking at schedules, Dallas is very There's always a
silver lining the two games where they could be favored Carolina,
although Bryce Young's playing well now, I'm not sure they
would be. And again Carolina is playing for something. Bryce
Young wants to keep his job. People want to keep
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their jobs in Carolina because Dave Tepper is a fire
everybody now, guy Jerry's not okay, So in Carolina, they're
fighting for it. By the way, Brian Dabole is fighting
for his job in New York, you're going to get
a motivated Carolina New York team. You look at the schedule, J.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Mack.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It is brutal. It is teams fighting for playoff spot. Philadelphia, Houston,
Washington twice, Cincinnati, Tampa. Those teams are all fighting for playoffs. Yeah,
this is a three win team, I'm telling you. Four
and thirteen is absolutely dak now as you're saying out
for the year, four and thirteen gets them to probably
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the number three pick in the league.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
So okay, So let's say they win four or five
games whatever, and they have the fourth or fifth pick.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
The problem is this isn't a quarterback rich draft. Are
you even getting someone to trade up with you?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, let's say you're fifth. Shador goes first, Travis Hunter
goes second. There is a Texas offensive tackle that's going
to go high. All right, there's about there's about nine players.
Cam Ward is going to be in that five, six,
seven spot. That's where Dallas wants to be.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Do you think that people view cam Ward the same
way people viewed Bo Nicks?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
JJ McCarthy higher or lower.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I think they view him as he won at Washington State,
he won at Miami. I don't know how he's viewed yet.
I think he listened. We know quarterback and coaches win
in this league. Somebody. I'm not saying cam Ward can't
make it in the NFL. I think Shoder's excellent. I
think cam Ward's hitt and miss. He could hit. But somebody,
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some general manager and coach need a quarterback to save
their jobs and keep their kids in private schools. Somebody
is going up for cam Ward.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Is Jalen Millroad? Does that do anything for you?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Not that high? No good serviceable, not that high.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I mean this again, We're desperate for quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
And I know there's a lot of bad football being
played now, A lot of bad teams.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
I know.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I mean Carolina. I know they have Bryce Young, but
they could be looking at a quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Car I don't think so, but maybe I think they'd
go the veteran route. I think they'd go for it
like a Sam dart.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Away, just shot they're bringing it. Oh, come, it's listen.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
That's the problem right now. There's just not a lot
of good dudes. Carson Beck totally awful. Let's go to
the next story.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Colin. The Buffalo Bills really impressive.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Defense of showing and week nine and then they were
good again in week ten and they're right up against
the Chiefs and the AFC. Colin, this is a massive
showdown on Sunday. Casey undefeated. Sean McDermott was asked whether
Buffalo will have a little extra motivation.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
The expectations that we have for ourselves are the most
important ones. We certainly understand, you know, everybody putting a
lot into this coming game.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And we will too, But we put a lot into
every game.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
If we don't, we're not We're doing ourselves a disservice.
So we owe that every week to ourselves and to
our fans to put the same amount of preparation every week.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And it's a good.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Football team that's coming in. Undefeated football team and well coached,
so we have a ton of respect for them.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Kansas City plays their worst game of the year and
now they go to Buffalo. Buffalo. Everybody, I've seen this
script before. Buffalo is on a heater. Everybody's into Buffalo. Boy,
Kansas City is really struggling on offense, and here come
the Chiefs getting points. I'm taking Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I've read this before.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Predictably, some some Chiefs blogs were upset with my lucky
Chiefs take yesterday. I haven't really gone on the internet
because you can't you can't read anything. Now they're all
yelling at me. Did you see Keon Coleman's officially out
for the Bills this week? Kinkaid the tight end, bend
up his knee. Don't know if he's gonna go, Amari
Cooper wrist?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
How many times have we seen this? Buffalo's on a heater.
We're all criticizing Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Malmes is an underdog. We'll give you the stats later
in the week. However, Kansas City, this is big news.
I didn't know this was in play. They just designated
Isaiah Pacheco to return from the IR so there's a
big window. Apparently, according to ESPN, he's going to be
at practice on Wednesday. Pachecko, that's massive for my fantasy
TV's on the ben injured obviously, but that would be
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huge for Casey and listen if.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
They get buy this, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Seven, I think we could.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Start talking about it if they win this game. Yeah no,
I'm not saying they're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
This is not It's just again. I remember during Brady's
dynasty and I was considered a Patriot Homer at the
other place, and I every once in a while I
would doubt them. I'm gonna go with Peyton, I'm gonna go.
I got burned every time I those Baltimore games. I'm like,
Baltimore's got better players. I'm taking Baltimore over New England.
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Big moment, late fourth, third down, goal line stand. Kansas
City is the best situational team in football, and now
Buffalo's banged up on an area that's already a little
dicey wide receiver. I like the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
How about we could do a fun game where every
week we have to pick a team that can take
down Kansas City in the playoffs. I'll just start it.
I think the Chargers are built to beat the Cansas.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You and I agree with this. They basically are the
Chargers are the Chiefs. I mean, think about this. Have
I said in the AFC great coach, great quarterback, good
enough o line, run the football, but not dominant. Probably
wish they were better at receiver, excellent pass rush, top
three defense. That's the Chargers and the Chiefs. Both of
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their flaws are Yeah, I wish they had a dominant
number one receiver. They have a young guy Xavier Worthy
in Kansas City and Quentin Johnston in Los Angeles where
you're like, there's something there, but I don't know. He
can get you in over the top touchdown, but I'm
not sure if he's the guy. Then there's another guy
a Ladd McConkie here a tight end there that you know,
you kind of trust. But they're the same team, they
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really are. The difference is Reed and Mahomes have the trophies.
The Chargers we think can eventually get one.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Do you remember last year in that playoff game, Baltimore
had like the number one rushing offense all season and
then they ran the ball like eight times whatever the
low number was. There's no way Jim Harbaugh's pulling some
nonsense like that. He is coming into a playoff game
against the Chiefs and we're running Dobbins twenty twe twenty
fix times and Gus Edwards is getting ted carries.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They will stay true to who they are. The Ravens
went away from that. I think it cost him, but
keep an eye on the Chargers. This plucky Chargers team.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Final story, Colin is the Eagles kind of a rough
start to the season, but boy they are cooking right now.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Five straight victories.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Second best point differential in that five game stretch at
plus eighty two, behind the Lions. According to Saquon Barkley,
the team maintained their confidence through the tough opening to
the season.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I think you guys made it same rocky and not
no offense, Like I mean, you guys are doing your job,
but panic outside of the locker room kind of you know,
it was from outside of locker room.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Wasn't in here.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
We had no panic.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
We kind of trewed you, like the preseason game, to
be honest, that was kind of mindset.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
He was, all right, we're.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Done with preseason now let's go let's go get thanks shaking.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I like him.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah, so they had to buy after the Tampa lost
member no Aj Brown in that game. They come back healthy,
they beat Cleveland, don't cover, smash the Giants, destroy the Bengals,
really the Jags, but then hold on and then they
embarrass the Cowboys. Like this is a good five game stretch.
They've gotten heavy to the run, not a lot of
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Jalen Hurts passes in the red zone, number early season turnovers,
and AJ Brown's healthy, they could I would love to
see an Eagles Lions playoff game.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
That would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, I think that's what we're gonna get. That's what
it feels.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Are you counting out the Niners?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I kind of am okay, you go.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Ahead and do that. Let me know how that was.
But count the Niners out. It's your own barrow.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the Herd Line News. So yesterday Jmack
quite a kerfuffle. Jmac was just calling the Chiefs lucky
in terms of blocking the kick. And I think a
lot of times fans spend way too much time when
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it comes to coaches on play calling. Play calling is overrated.
Execution is underrated. If you call a draw on third
and eight and it works, it works because of execution.
Well coached teams execute. And Sean Payton, he's been in
this league a long time. He knows great coaching and
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great scouting when he sees it, it's not about luck.
Here is Sean Payton on the Chiefs blocking that kick.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
This isn't on the player, this is this is on
all of us. This is on us as coaches. We've
got to continue to look at a you know, are
we big enough stature wise there for that, for that
and understanding how the rush was coming. All of that
is game planning, scouting, and then it's us coaching and
and looking at you know, the self scout and look
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when when when something like that happens, and it's not
the first like it could be a trick play or
it could be whatever. It's pretty common for the for
the team that had success with it to say, hey,
we saw and and credit them for that. They exploited
area that we obviously felt was fixed and stronger and
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yet not fixed enough.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, we said this. I think Denver is thin. I
think they have talent. I think their talents better than
people think. They don't have any depth.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Depth.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You see it on the special teams. They need another
seven or eight guys on that roster another free agency period.
They just don't have enough good guys up front to
block on the special teams in Kansas City exploited it.
There's no luck involved, you know. I'll give you an
example of an it's preparation. Remember the hail mary. Remember
Washington the hail mary. It wasn't just the hail mary,
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it was how unprepared Chicago was. Remember the play before
the hail mary. Right, they got a thirteen yard completion
out of bounds to stop the clock. And if you
look at the hail mary, they had it set up perfectly.
Washington really well coached. I mean, that's like how you
practice it. And Chicago's guy was late to get over
because he was dawn with the fans. So I think
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I think fans tend to look at coaching and get
so imp so up in the air and emotional on
play calling. I rarely banging a coach for play calling.
It's all execution. That hail mary in the play before
it was just such crisp coaching. They set up the
hail mary, and even when they ran the hail mary,
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Jade and Daniels moved right to give the receivers time.
Then he moved left. You could watch the symmetry with
the offensive lineman for the commanders. They knew the pocket
rolled right, then we're gonna roll back. That gives all
the receivers and the bounce guy time to get down
there so that the hail Okay, yeah, is there a
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good fortune with a hail Mary? But who didn't get
over for the Bears? The kid yapping with the fans,
remember him, he yapping with the fans. We isolated that
he was late to get over. So when you block
a kick like that, I don't buy into luck. I
just I think you know luck is like I'll show
you an NFL lucky status fumbles. Some years you FuMB.
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Everybody fumbles, some years you fumble and recover your own fumbles,
and some years you don't. So what you want to
do with fumbles is fumble as little as possible. Right,
you don't want to fumble, But because of cold weather,
helmet to the ball, teams fumble. There are years there
are six game stretches where you fumble eight times, recover
seven of them, and then there's stretches where you fumble
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seven times and don't recover any of them. That's just luck,
it's bad bounces. They're really good teams fumble less than
they're really bad teams. That's preparation, coaching, and practice. So
there is luck in these games, and the hail Mary
is good fortune. But you watch the Commanders. That was
a well coached hail mary even to play before you
watch that block kick. That's practice, that's scouting, that's going
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They have a huge issue on the left side of
their field goal unit. And also they didn't do that
in the first quarter. They didn't give it away. In
the second, third quarter, they waited. They held up just
like a great trick play. Trick plays are a was
really effective when you know what defense they're running. You
never really know. Don't run trick plays on first down
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because you don't really know what the defense is on
first down. Generally, if it's third and four, you have
a better sense of what a team is doing defensively.
There's a time and a place for great coaching adaptability
surprises to take place. But I don't buy luck at all.
I watched that Kansas City block I saw like seven
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guys get through. That is like overloading one side. I mean,
look at this. They just overloaded the right side of
their kicking defense. They knew there was a weakness. There's
like six guys that get through here. They saw that thing,
and I loved how they waited until the very last
play of the game. They didn't do this in the
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first quarter, and then everybody in Denver's like, hey, we
gotta shore this up. Nope, they all weak. They said,
if it happens, if we get down to a patlay,
we're going to go for it. So it was not
just a prep. It was the timing. It was delivered.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Can I hit you with some numbers? Is that going
to do anything for you? For my luck argument? Are
you ready for this? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Last ten seasons, kickers have made ninety four percent of
their kicks from thirty five yards out, according to the
Athletic two hundred and sixty two out of two hundred eighty.
Do you want to guess, out of those two hundred
eighty field goals last ten years that were from thirty
five yards out, how many were blocked?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Four?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Three, three out of two hundred eighty.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
My friend, that's luck three out of two hundred eighty.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
What it tells you is, did anybody because we've said
all year, Denver's a thin roster. We've said this all year,
they're like eight more players away. Kansas City's not a
thin roster. Defensively, it's a stacked roster. So Denver's like, folks,
this is why Kansas City's winning It's why New England
did never forget the Julian Edelman double pass against the Ravens.
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Genius perfect time. You're like, oh, you run that in
the first quarter. You give away your you give away
your hand. It's like you're playing poker in these games.
When do you bluff? When do you go all in?
Timing is everything. The key to this is they knew
they could have done that in any quarter, and they
saved it for the end. They did. They knew it
was going to work. They knew when you block a punt,
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it's not random. You see it all week. You're like, Okay,
we're not going after him in the first let's lull
them to sleep.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
It's like that Steeler's fake punt that they ran, I
think in the first quarter, deep in their own end.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Guy wide open, uncovered, drops it. Now, that was unlucky, right.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
I would give that a genius play call because they identified,
oh he's wide open here.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You remember this, the Russell Wilson interception Seattle, intercepted by
New England at the goal line.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Oh, Malcolm, Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They had talked about that the preparation they were waiting
for him. There was a certain look they didn't do
it in the second third quarter. They waited until Russell.
They had seen that play, they'd seen Seattle use it.
They waited for him to plant his foot, meaning he's
not running. Malcolm jumped on the route. All those New
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England players like, oh no, no, we saw this. We were
waiting for the moment. That was to me, what symbolized
New England's greatness and what is now symbolizing Kansas City's
greatness is four plays a game. It's about four plays
that they win. All these games close, and they're four
for four every week on them. And that was what
New England compared them to New England about a month ago.
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New England didn't have the best players, they had holes,
dead liabilities, they were pantom a lot, but about four
times a game against the good teams are in crisis,
they never missed. Their execution was insane. That is not luck.
That is not luck. There have been Hail Mary's where
you're like, okay, that feels like that. I didn't think
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that Commander Hale Mary was luck at all. That was prep.
I mean the guy literally just pushed off in the
back bounce right to him. It's like that was well done.
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How about Colorado? Colorado right now feels like a real
shot with Utah's loss, a real shot potentially to make
the playoff. That's great. I know you can say what
you want, but we know it's going to be mostly
SEC and big ten teams and then there's gonna be
a big twelve team ACC team. Keep your eye on Colorado.
They have the best two players arguably in the sport.
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It matters. So you know, last night I was thinking
about this watching Tua and Stafford struggle in the first half.
Neither got great protection. Is a great movement guy, and
as I was watching the game and Stafford getting bad protection,
there's just limitations to what he can do. He really needs.
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Same with Tua, and again, I think Stafford's one of
the great passers in the league, but neither guy without protection.
You can see if Lamar Josh Allen's in that space,
it's different. They make stuff happen, they need protection. And
I was thinking about this, and I'm not gonna mention
every quarterback in the league. I'm gonna mostly stick to
the really good ones. So if I leave your quarterback out,
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it's not a slight but I do feel like athletically
in terms of movement. Just in terms of movement. There
are three classifications of quarterbacks. The first one and I
would call this the sprinter class Josh Allen, Jaden, Daniels Kyler, Murray,
Lamar Jackson. They can run as much as they want.
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I mean, it is an absolute weapon and sometimes it's
better than the passing. Sometimes they lead with it. It
should be noted no Super Bowl trophies there. Have they
relied too much on their athleticism. I don't know, but
it's just something to note. The second class is scramblers.
There's some Super Bowls here, right. These guys are athletic,
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prefer to throw from the pocket, can certainly beat you
with their legs, but they don't feel like they're hyper hyper.
Josh Allen athletic, although Mahomes is really good and Brock
pretty moves much better than I gave him credit for.
Burl's got a Tony rommel Field. He moves very well.
These are the scramblers. And then the third one is
I would call stationary. These are pocket guys. Some move
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better than others. But it's Aaron Rodgers Stafford to a
Jared Gofkirk Cousins. Now there again, Stafford's got a super Bowl,
Aaron's got a super Bowl. Golf's beIN too a super Bowl.
So the only one that doesn't have a lot of
super Bowls, it's the one. It's the first one, and
I don't know if that means anything. It could be coincidental.
I think Josh Allen Lamar Jackson eventually both win a
Super Bowl. But my take is that Owden side to
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number three is that you need a committee to support them.
Tua and Stafford need an above average offensive line, and
that's really expensive. There's so many bad old lines in
the league, left tackles, right tackle centers. You got to
have an expensive on line. We came into the season
with Lamar Jackson and we all acknowledged Baltimore's weakness was
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on line had zero impact, zero impact. I mean outside
of left tackle. How many Pro bowlers Josh Allen never
had in front of him? Zero impact? They went twelve
thirteen games zero a Kyler Murray, they have one tackle.
I really like offensive line, Okay, Arizona's red hot Jayden Daniels.
We came into the season. I don't know if I like.
Washington's offensive line had zero impact. The kids just super
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right moves all over the place. So the downside to
be into a Stafford when the protection break down, and
you saw it last night, they're in big trouble. So
you have to pay for a better offensive line. You're
gonna spend some money. You're not gonna be able to
spend all the money you want. So once you start
paying tour Stafford, you can have holes in the offensive line.
Miami's on line right now not a team strength rams
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offensive line. They have to draft a couple of tackles
in this next draft. It is not a strength. And
the other thing is and you got to be honest
about this. Generally, if you're a stationary quarterback, an elite
play designer, slash caller, matters a lot to n Stafford
both have one. Okay, kirk Cousins, I don't know. Aaron
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Rodgers doesn't, so you would. I'm not saying the sprinter
class is where what you want. I think those guys
will all potentially win super Bowls, the second and the
third class more trophies. But watching Tua and Stafford last night,
you do see you can win a lot. But the
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reason kirk Cousins chose Atlanta really wanted to go there,
great O line. When Stafford went to La with Whitworth,
great o' line. When Brady went to Tampa, what did
he do? Get me Tristan Wurf's and get me Gronk
excellent O line for the record, Jared Goff, they figured
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out very quickly in the move pinay sewell, get him
a big time O line. So you can do it
with the stationary class. Got to spend money on the
old line. And it really helps to have an elite
play designer or caller. Now the good News two has
got one, Stafford's got one, and you're fine. Aaron doesn't,
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and I think you're seeing it. He didn't have an
elite O line, nor does he have an elite play caller.
And at forty he's not gonna elevate those guys, all right,
herd hierarchy, somebody makes an appearance in the old hierarchy.
It is a it's a team that doesn't make the
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minutes from now. Well, a dud by the Rams last night.
Jamac a complete, absolute dud. But it did feel like
to me twenty three point fifteen dollars win over the
La Rams. It was the rare NFL game in the
middle of a season that I thought could have turned
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around a franchise, and this happens in the NFL a lot.
I'll get to that in a second. But to his healthy,
he was tremendous on third down should have beaten Buffalo,
and they dominated a Rams team on the key down,
third down offense, third down defense. And remember this, schedules matter.
The schedule gets really easy for the Dolphins, Jets twice,
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Brown's new England Raiders easiest remaining NFL schedule. So every
season there is a team in about Week nine, ten
to eleven that catches fire. Last year it was the Rams.
Remember they won seven of their last eight. They were
a bad team, unhealthy, then they got hot, went to
the playoffs. Twenty twenty two, it was the Bengals. Bengals
were back and forth. They were four and four, got
red hot, went twelve and four, lost close to the
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Chiefs in the AFC Championship. Remember the Brady Buccaneers. People
forget this. They were seven and five going into the
week thirteen by and the schedule lightened up Detroit Atlanta
a couple times. Detroit wasn't as good as they are now.
All of a sudden, Bruce Arians Brady are clashing. They're
seven and five, they go into a bye, they get
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red hot. This happens every year. And I look at
Miami schedule, I look at the way they played. They
should have beaten Buffalo, the schedule gets weak. Listen, the
Rams have a great coach, an excellent quarterback, and a
good young roster, especially on defense. And I mean that game.
I don't care what the score was. The Rams were
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chasing the Dolphins for three and a half hours. That
was the Dolphins game from the very first drive. And
you know what I've said before, there are limitations to
what Tua can do. But in that second half and
on third down, he went for the game nine of
twelve for one hundred and forty yards just on third down.
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And that is an excellent, young, albeit young, excellent Rams
defensive front, and he tore them apart. So we can
say what we want about Tua. He may have limitations,
but I watch him in Buffalo on the road, then
fly cross country against that Rams defensive front, and Tua
was exceptional. This is a good team and the rest
of the division New England's going nowhere Jets or man overboard.
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Buffalo has already won this thing three weeks ago, so
like this is a real time for Miami. I've seen
Cincinnati do this. I saw Brady won a Super Bowl.
I saw the Rams do it last year. Rams schedule
gets harder this may have been the game that starts
them careening down the wrong path. But I felt, and
I don't feel this a lot. You get to like
week ten and eleven, you kind of know what you have.
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But TOA didn't play, they were banged up, they couldn't
be healthy, and their backup situation at quarterback in Miami's
actually one of the worst in the league, so backup
quarterbacks not very good. Schedule was tougher. Now the schedule
lightens up. Two is healthy. I gotta be honest. I
watched that game last night, and I have high regard
for the Rams staff. They got worked, they got out coached, out,
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hustled out, toughed outplay stafford wasn't as good on third
down as two it was. Here's two after the game
and what the win could mean.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I think it's, you know, a testament to the character
of this team. We've come a long way through, however,
many losses in a row. The resilience of this team,
with the external noise, everyone counting us out. You know,
hopefully this is an opportunity for us to not waste.
You know, hopefully we can go on a run with
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this win and find our rhythm towards the back end
of the season.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, Jets twice. They're a mess, Raiders mess, New England, Limited, Cleveland,
Mass all on the schedule, quarterbacks backed schedule, weekends, and
the rest of the division outside of Buffalo kind of
a mess. I like where Miami's at. Big win for them,
all Right, So this morning we knew something was coming.
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Something had happened, the first of many moves over the
next few months. Shane Waldron Bears offensive coordinator out. It
doesn't really matter whose fault it is. So Chicago's got
a lot of things working against him here. Number one is,
you just missed on another young quarterback, Justin Fields, and
you screwed that up. Although I don't think he's nearly
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as good a prospect or a player as Caleb Williams.
But you missed on that. See, you're not gonna you
don't get any excuses. Now you don't get a guy. Well,
we missed on Trubisky, we missed on Justin Fields, we
missed on Caleb Williams. No, it's coaching. The second thing
is Caleb Williams. Maybe he wasn't Andrew Luck as a prospect.
Maybe he wasn't even Joe Burrow as a prospect, but
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most executives thought the dude could really play. His comp
was Mahomes, Trubisky and Justin Fields. You're off the hook
a little because they haven't done anything since they left Chicago,
so it's like, wow, they weren't very good. Caleb Williams
is way closer to Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, and Joe Burrow.
NFL executives, if they didn't love him, they thought he
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was a really good, solid prospect. And here's the other thing,
And I think everybody listening or watching the show knows this.
This doesn't help either. Bow Nicks is getting better. He
outplayed Mahomes this weekend. He's getting better fast. Jaden Daniels
he looked good by week two. So all of a sudden,
you start, you know, you start making comps and you're like,
this is an indictment on the franchise. And the other
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thing is it is easy to blame the quarterback. And
I do think all the little flaws with Caleb Williams
runs around a little too much accuracy, a little inconsistent.
They're all flaring up now, you know. I mean Jaden Daniels,
he's a little thin, will he stay healthy. He did
get banged up for one game, but he came. You know,
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he's available bow knicks, not a great deep ball arm.
We've seen that scouts usually know what they're doing, especially
when they all conversion a player and all have similar opinions. Caleb's.
Two nflgms I talked to on Caleb are like big
time athlete. Worry about his consistent accuracy. We've seen that
he has been a big time athlete. But it's your
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job as a football staff to develop young players. It's
like parenting. You know what you're getting into. You draft
a young quarterback, even if they're gifted. You have a
gifted child, it doesn't ensure success. And the other thing
that is really working against Chicago is Caleb. But everybody,
we may forget it now. He had a three game
stretch earlier in the season where we saw the talent. Yeah,
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he had a three game stretch where he completed seventy
four percent of his throws. So we know he's talented.
We saw it when he had less practices and less
games and less reps. So he has just falling off
a cliff, and that's going to go to the coaches
and so something clearly is not working. And you know,
yesterday we had a guest on Matt hasselback eighteen years
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in the league. And again you can point fingers at
whoever you want. Some of it absolutely no quoest question
is on Caleb.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I would say ninety percent of it is on the quarterback.
Like if I'm coaching the quarterback and they were at
nine sacks yesterday, I'm putting at least six of those
on the quarterback. And just like with Russell Wilson, like
we're sitting here talking about the deep ball to Mike Williams,
he knows like that's a blitz situation. Like Caleb, he's
a young quarterback. So I'm not trying to throw stones
at him because of the mistakes. I'm not surprised by
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the mistakes things. Just expectations are going to be higher
because you do have guys like Jaden Daniels playing such
good football, bon Nicks is playing good football, Drake May's
even playing good football, And so I think the Boo
birds are going to be out with Caleb.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I don't disagree with that, But because you missed on
Trubisky and justin fields, because Caleb has had some really
good weeks this year, and because of the Bear's history
screwing up quarterbacks, it doesn't really matter if it's Caleb's fault,
it's parenting. You got to be up for the challenge.
This is your job to deal with challenges. There are
no easy kids, there are easier kids, there are no
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per the easy kids. It is a challenge and so
that's where we're at today. Shane Walderin's out. I think
there's more to come. I don't buy that Eberflus is safe.
But and you know, I'm not a fan of defensive coaches.
I would go the other way with an offensive coach.
But in fairness, Sean McDermot has had success as a
defensive coach with Josh Allen. John Harbaugh is not an
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offensive coach with Lamar Jackson. Mike Tomlin has had a
great turnaround season offensively with Russell Wilson. Raheem Morris is
working with Kirk Cousins. They lead their division. So it's
you could go defense again, but as I pointed out,
for years with Chicago they're still living off the eighty
five Bears. It's a very defensive, blue collar, tough guy culture.
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That is fine Dave want stat one there, but I
think it's time. If you look at the end of seasons,
the four coaches left, the eight coaches left, it is
overwhelmingly offensive guys, and you've got to fix this kid.
You gotta fix him. I mean again, if you don't
end up giving him him an extension in four years,
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that's gonna be really an indictment. You may just have
to go to the market and buy somebody. But this
may not be a perfect player, but he's way closer
as a comp to a Maholmes, who people privately thought
was a star, thought was the next Farve a lock
A Burrow than he is Trubisky and justin Fields, those
guys had Trubisky. I didn't even get the Dariski thing.
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I'm not a scout like I didn't get it at all.
So there we are. Also, I will say this, Jim Harbaugh,
for all the owners and gms, if you're thinking about
hiring a coach, what the Chargers did should be duplicated.
There's no more Harballs on the market that we know of,
but it should be duplicated. Herd hierarchy top of the hour,
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I was Jay MC. I was actually I like the
Rams last night. I was I was surprised. It was
a fairly lifeless performance. Like I never after the first drive,
Miami just went down the field, clever reverses movement, touchdown.
I thought the Rams were out of sorts for almost
the entire game.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Week ten was strange the whole week around the.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
League, and it was like the Dolphins were one of
the worst defenses in the league for much of the
season and they were incredible last night. They were everywhere.
No Rams receivers open all night. Stafford was really under pressure.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
The Dolphins were thirty first in sacks. Didn't blit. The
Rams were healthier in the on line. They got enormous
pressure with four.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I don't know McDaniel clearly, I don't want to say
saving his job, but listen, they were bad.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
They weren't a bad place Miami.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
And now there all of a sudden in the wild
card mix that I think Thanksgiving game against the Packers
right kind of got very interesting. Yeah, well, we'll say
about the Dolphins, I don't know if I can trust
them yet.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, it was. It was a really interesting night.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
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Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I saw something yesterday.
I didn't hear it live, but I read the story
on it and I want you to listen to it
for a second. So you know, the New York media, everybody, print, radio, TV,
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they all blamed Robert Sala and we kept saying that,
ain't it. It's not the roster, it's not the GM,
it's not Robert Sala. He was easily the best coach
on the staff. It's the quarterback in Green Bay. Everybody
the last several years was walking on eggshells. The team
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was tight in big games. Aaron creates that, and in
New York it's the same thing. Everybody walks and defers
to Aaron. It's like a really high maintenance thing. Jay
Cutler had this because he was so caustic. Everybody walked
on eggshells. You never had that with Brady. Brady was
the biggest start in the game. You never have that
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with Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen or Justin Herbert.
Their stars. Everybody loves him. Herbert is so reluctant to
even give a postgame speech, go bolts everything with Aaron,
smartest guy in the room. Everybody's deferring.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Finally, finally, a New York media person, Boomera Siasn, figured
it out and called it out.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
It's an unmitigated disaster. Aaron Rodgers has completely sucked the
air out of the building. He is a first ballot
Hall of Fame player, one of the great quarterbacks when
he was in his mind that we have ever seen.
Since he has come here, over the last two years,
every player on this team, I feel like has deferred.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Everything to him.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Russell Wilson said something about Mike Williams yesterday, and it
was being reported during the game that when Mike Williams
showed up to Pittsburgh, he showed up with such a
big smile and he was so happy, like he was
so unencumbered by playing for the Jets and with the
Jets and with Aaron Rode Rogers.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Let me ask you this, if you had a friend
and you said, he's super moody. He turns on people quickly,
he'll ghost you. He holds grudges. Be like what that's
what guys call a bad hang. Can be good at
the right space, but like like a bad hang, like
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you don't want to invite him to big groups. It's
hard enough to get four guys on a rafting trip
or a Vegas trip. Onezola was an idiot, But I
mean it's like, like, here's what you don't want if
you go out with the guys. A moody guy, you know,
turns on you, holds grudges, very precious, prickly. That's what
Aaron's become. That's what he was at the end of
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Green Bay. And I had that thing sourced. Everybody's walking
on an eggshells. And here's the other thing that needs
to be discussed. Hopefully somebody in the New York media
can can get here, because this is real true. Players
that leave Erin are getting better. Mike Williams first game
got better. Every receiver in Green Bay suddenly flourished, and
players that join Aaron are shrinking. Davonte Adams last year,
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think about this. He had Brian Hoyer, Jimmy Garoppolo, and
Aidan O'Connell. Davante Adams caught sixty percent of his targets
with that group. With Aaron, fifty one percent of his
targets he catches. What does that tell you? It's like
a coach. When Jim Harball left the Niners, they went
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into the tank. When he went to Michigan, they got
good immediately. Don't just judge somebody on what happens when
they arrive, what happens when they leave. All the receivers
in green Bay got better. Davonte Adams was doing better
with backups in Las Vegas than he is now with Aaron.
So finally somebody comes to terms. It's not Robert sla
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Robert Sallett was the best coach by a mile on
that staff. Excellent motivator, excellent defensive. Is he a great
head coach? You're finding out how hard it is? Okay, Colin,
you got something against Aaron? No, I'm speaking the truth now,
Boome Rossiasin is now Mike Williams is nobody's got an
agenda against him. But just say this out loud. Moody
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gets dark fast, grudges, turns on people. Would you want
to go on a camping trip with that? Would you
want that to be the franchise leader? I don't think
you would. For the record, green Bay wins total offense,
scoring offense all up in Jordan Love's first year as
a starter, and Aaron's first year in New York. Up up, up.
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It is a problem. He is not the answer, He
is not the savior, and he is the problem. J
Mack with a.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
News no no turns. This is the Herdline news.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Let's start in Dallas, where we have a little bit
of breaking news from earlier this morning. Jerry Jones announced
Dak Prescott will officially miss the rest of the season,
set for surgery on his Hammy. Cowboys will likely turn
to Cooper Rush under center for the rest of the year.
But you know, we could see the other guy, Trey Lance,
who backed up not even capably.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
On Sunday. I think your tank take from last week
is starting to look decent. The only problem is what
are you taking four?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're tanking for a top four spot, and if you
start looking at schedules, Dallas is very There's always a
silver lining the two games where they could be favored Carolina,
although Bryce Young's playing well now, I'm not sure they
would be. And again Carolina is playing for something. Bryce
Young wants to keep his job. People want to keep
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their jobs in Carolina because Dave Tepper is a fire
everybody now, guy Jerry's not okay, So in Carolina, they're
fighting for it. By the way, Brian Dabole is fighting
for his job in New York, you're going to get
a motivated Carolina New York team. You look at the schedule, J.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Mack.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It is brutal. It is teams fighting for playoff spot. Philadelphia, Houston,
Washington twice, Cincinnati, Tampa. Those teams are all fighting for playoffs. Yeah,
this is a three win team, I'm telling you. Four
and thirteen is absolutely dak now as you're saying out
for the year, four and thirteen gets them to probably
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the number three pick in the league.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
So okay, So let's say they win four or five
games whatever, and they have the fourth or fifth pick.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
The problem is this isn't a quarterback rich draft. Are
you even getting someone to trade up with you?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Well, let's say you're fifth. Shador goes first, Travis Hunter
goes second. There is a Texas offensive tackle that's going
to go high. All right, there's about there's about nine players.
Cam Ward is going to be in that five, six,
seven spot. That's where Dallas wants to be.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Do you think that people view cam Ward the same
way people viewed Bo Nicks?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
JJ McCarthy higher or lower.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I think they view him as he won at Washington State,
he won at Miami. I don't know how he's viewed yet.
I think he listened. We know quarterback and coaches win
in this league. Somebody. I'm not saying cam Ward can't
make it in the NFL. I think Shoder's excellent. I
think cam Ward's hitt and miss. He could hit. But somebody,
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some general manager and coach need a quarterback to save
their jobs and keep their kids in private schools. Somebody
is going up for cam Ward.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Is Jalen Millroad? Does that do anything for you?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Not that high? No good serviceable, not that high.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I mean this again, We're desperate for quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
And I know there's a lot of bad football being
played now, A lot of bad teams.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
I know.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
I mean Carolina. I know they have Bryce Young, but
they could be looking at a quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Car I don't think so, but maybe I think they'd
go the veteran route. I think they'd go for it
like a Sam dart.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Away, just shot they're bringing it. Oh, come, it's listen.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
That's the problem right now. There's just not a lot
of good dudes. Carson Beck totally awful. Let's go to
the next story.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Colin. The Buffalo Bills really impressive.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Defense of showing and week nine and then they were
good again in week ten and they're right up against
the Chiefs and the AFC. Colin, this is a massive
showdown on Sunday. Casey undefeated. Sean McDermott was asked whether
Buffalo will have a little extra motivation.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
The expectations that we have for ourselves are the most
important ones. We certainly understand, you know, everybody putting a
lot into this coming game.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
And we will too, But we put a lot into
every game.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
If we don't, we're not We're doing ourselves a disservice.
So we owe that every week to ourselves and to
our fans to put the same amount of preparation every week.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And it's a good.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
Football team that's coming in. Undefeated football team and well coached,
so we have a ton of respect for them.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Kansas City plays their worst game of the year and
now they go to Buffalo. Buffalo. Everybody, I've seen this
script before. Buffalo is on a heater. Everybody's into Buffalo. Boy,
Kansas City is really struggling on offense, and here come
the Chiefs getting points. I'm taking Kansas City?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I've read this before.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Predictably, some some Chiefs blogs were upset with my lucky
Chiefs take yesterday. I haven't really gone on the internet
because you can't you can't read anything. Now they're all
yelling at me. Did you see Keon Coleman's officially out
for the Bills this week? Kinkaid the tight end, bend
up his knee. Don't know if he's gonna go, Amari
Cooper wrist?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
How many times have we seen this? Buffalo's on a heater.
We're all criticizing Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Malmes is an underdog. We'll give you the stats later
in the week. However, Kansas City, this is big news.
I didn't know this was in play. They just designated
Isaiah Pacheco to return from the IR so there's a
big window. Apparently, according to ESPN, he's going to be
at practice on Wednesday. Pachecko, that's massive for my fantasy
TV's on the ben injured obviously, but that would be
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huge for Casey and listen if.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
They get buy this, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Seven, I think we could.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Start talking about it if they win this game. Yeah no,
I'm not saying they're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
This is not It's just again. I remember during Brady's
dynasty and I was considered a Patriot Homer at the
other place, and I every once in a while I
would doubt them. I'm gonna go with Peyton, I'm gonna go.
I got burned every time I those Baltimore games. I'm like,
Baltimore's got better players. I'm taking Baltimore over New England.
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Big moment, late fourth, third down, goal line stand. Kansas
City is the best situational team in football, and now
Buffalo's banged up on an area that's already a little
dicey wide receiver. I like the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
How about we could do a fun game where every
week we have to pick a team that can take
down Kansas City in the playoffs. I'll just start it.
I think the Chargers are built to beat the Cansas.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You and I agree with this. They basically are the
Chargers are the Chiefs. I mean, think about this. Have
I said in the AFC great coach, great quarterback, good
enough o line, run the football, but not dominant. Probably
wish they were better at receiver, excellent pass rush, top
three defense. That's the Chargers and the Chiefs. Both of
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their flaws are Yeah, I wish they had a dominant
number one receiver. They have a young guy Xavier Worthy
in Kansas City and Quentin Johnston in Los Angeles where
you're like, there's something there, but I don't know. He
can get you in over the top touchdown, but I'm
not sure if he's the guy. Then there's another guy
a Ladd McConkie here a tight end there that you know,
you kind of trust. But they're the same team, they
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really are. The difference is Reed and Mahomes have the trophies.
The Chargers we think can eventually get one.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Do you remember last year in that playoff game, Baltimore
had like the number one rushing offense all season and
then they ran the ball like eight times whatever the
low number was. There's no way Jim Harbaugh's pulling some
nonsense like that. He is coming into a playoff game
against the Chiefs and we're running Dobbins twenty twe twenty
fix times and Gus Edwards is getting ted carries.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
They will stay true to who they are. The Ravens
went away from that. I think it cost him, but
keep an eye on the Chargers. This plucky Chargers team.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Final story, Colin is the Eagles kind of a rough
start to the season, but boy they are cooking right now.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Five straight victories.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Second best point differential in that five game stretch at
plus eighty two, behind the Lions. According to Saquon Barkley,
the team maintained their confidence through the tough opening to
the season.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I think you guys made it same rocky and not
no offense, Like I mean, you guys are doing your job,
but panic outside of the locker room kind of you know,
it was from outside of locker room.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Wasn't in here.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
We had no panic.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
We kind of trewed you, like the preseason game, to
be honest, that was kind of mindset.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
He was, all right, we're.
Speaker 9 (24:42):
Done with preseason now let's go let's go get thanks shaking.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I like him.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Yeah, so they had to buy after the Tampa lost
member no Aj Brown in that game. They come back healthy,
they beat Cleveland, don't cover, smash the Giants, destroy the Bengals,
really the Jags, but then hold on and then they
embarrass the Cowboys. Like this is a good five game stretch.
They've gotten heavy to the run, not a lot of
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Jalen Hurts passes in the red zone, number early season turnovers,
and AJ Brown's healthy, they could I would love to
see an Eagles Lions playoff game.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
That would be awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, I think that's what we're gonna get. That's what
it feels.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Are you counting out the Niners?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I kind of am okay, you go.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Ahead and do that. Let me know how that was.
But count the Niners out. It's your own barrow.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by the Herd Line News. So yesterday Jmack
quite a kerfuffle. Jmac was just calling the Chiefs lucky
in terms of blocking the kick. And I think a
lot of times fans spend way too much time when
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it comes to coaches on play calling. Play calling is overrated.
Execution is underrated. If you call a draw on third
and eight and it works, it works because of execution.
Well coached teams execute. And Sean Payton, he's been in
this league a long time. He knows great coaching and
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great scouting when he sees it, it's not about luck.
Here is Sean Payton on the Chiefs blocking that kick.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
This isn't on the player, this is this is on
all of us. This is on us as coaches. We've
got to continue to look at a you know, are
we big enough stature wise there for that, for that
and understanding how the rush was coming. All of that
is game planning, scouting, and then it's us coaching and
and looking at you know, the self scout and look
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when when when something like that happens, and it's not
the first like it could be a trick play or
it could be whatever. It's pretty common for the for
the team that had success with it to say, hey,
we saw and and credit them for that. They exploited
area that we obviously felt was fixed and stronger and
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yet not fixed enough.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, we said this. I think Denver is thin. I
think they have talent. I think their talents better than
people think. They don't have any depth.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Depth.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You see it on the special teams. They need another
seven or eight guys on that roster another free agency period.
They just don't have enough good guys up front to
block on the special teams in Kansas City exploited it.
There's no luck involved, you know. I'll give you an
example of an it's preparation. Remember the hail mary. Remember
Washington the hail mary. It wasn't just the hail mary,
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it was how unprepared Chicago was. Remember the play before
the hail mary. Right, they got a thirteen yard completion
out of bounds to stop the clock. And if you
look at the hail mary, they had it set up perfectly.
Washington really well coached. I mean, that's like how you
practice it. And Chicago's guy was late to get over
because he was dawn with the fans. So I think
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I think fans tend to look at coaching and get
so imp so up in the air and emotional on
play calling. I rarely banging a coach for play calling.
It's all execution. That hail mary in the play before
it was just such crisp coaching. They set up the
hail mary, and even when they ran the hail mary,
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Jade and Daniels moved right to give the receivers time.
Then he moved left. You could watch the symmetry with
the offensive lineman for the commanders. They knew the pocket
rolled right, then we're gonna roll back. That gives all
the receivers and the bounce guy time to get down
there so that the hail Okay, yeah, is there a
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good fortune with a hail Mary? But who didn't get
over for the Bears? The kid yapping with the fans,
remember him, he yapping with the fans. We isolated that
he was late to get over. So when you block
a kick like that, I don't buy into luck. I
just I think you know luck is like I'll show
you an NFL lucky status fumbles. Some years you FuMB.
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Everybody fumbles, some years you fumble and recover your own fumbles,
and some years you don't. So what you want to
do with fumbles is fumble as little as possible. Right,
you don't want to fumble, But because of cold weather,
helmet to the ball, teams fumble. There are years there
are six game stretches where you fumble eight times, recover
seven of them, and then there's stretches where you fumble
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seven times and don't recover any of them. That's just luck,
it's bad bounces. They're really good teams fumble less than
they're really bad teams. That's preparation, coaching, and practice. So
there is luck in these games, and the hail Mary
is good fortune. But you watch the Commanders. That was
a well coached hail mary even to play before you
watch that block kick. That's practice, that's scouting, that's going
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They have a huge issue on the left side of
their field goal unit. And also they didn't do that
in the first quarter. They didn't give it away. In
the second, third quarter, they waited. They held up just
like a great trick play. Trick plays are a was
really effective when you know what defense they're running. You
never really know. Don't run trick plays on first down
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because you don't really know what the defense is on
first down. Generally, if it's third and four, you have
a better sense of what a team is doing defensively.
There's a time and a place for great coaching adaptability
surprises to take place. But I don't buy luck at all.
I watched that Kansas City block I saw like seven
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guys get through. That is like overloading one side. I mean,
look at this. They just overloaded the right side of
their kicking defense. They knew there was a weakness. There's
like six guys that get through here. They saw that thing,
and I loved how they waited until the very last
play of the game. They didn't do this in the
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first quarter, and then everybody in Denver's like, hey, we
gotta shore this up. Nope, they all weak. They said,
if it happens, if we get down to a patlay,
we're going to go for it. So it was not
just a prep. It was the timing. It was delivered.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Can I hit you with some numbers? Is that going
to do anything for you? For my luck argument? Are
you ready for this? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Last ten seasons, kickers have made ninety four percent of
their kicks from thirty five yards out, according to the
Athletic two hundred and sixty two out of two hundred eighty.
Do you want to guess, out of those two hundred
eighty field goals last ten years that were from thirty
five yards out, how many were blocked?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Four?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
Three, three out of two hundred eighty.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
My friend, that's luck three out of two hundred eighty.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
What it tells you is, did anybody because we've said
all year, Denver's a thin roster. We've said this all year,
they're like eight more players away. Kansas City's not a
thin roster. Defensively, it's a stacked roster. So Denver's like, folks,
this is why Kansas City's winning It's why New England
did never forget the Julian Edelman double pass against the Ravens.
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Genius perfect time. You're like, oh, you run that in
the first quarter. You give away your you give away
your hand. It's like you're playing poker in these games.
When do you bluff? When do you go all in?
Timing is everything. The key to this is they knew
they could have done that in any quarter, and they
saved it for the end. They did. They knew it
was going to work. They knew when you block a punt,
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it's not random. You see it all week. You're like, Okay,
we're not going after him in the first let's lull
them to sleep.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
It's like that Steeler's fake punt that they ran, I
think in the first quarter, deep in their own end.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Guy wide open, uncovered, drops it. Now, that was unlucky, right.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
I would give that a genius play call because they identified,
oh he's wide open here.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You remember this, the Russell Wilson interception Seattle, intercepted by
New England at the goal line.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Oh, Malcolm, Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They had talked about that the preparation they were waiting
for him. There was a certain look they didn't do
it in the second third quarter. They waited until Russell.
They had seen that play, they'd seen Seattle use it.
They waited for him to plant his foot, meaning he's
not running. Malcolm jumped on the route. All those New
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England players like, oh no, no, we saw this. We were
waiting for the moment. That was to me, what symbolized
New England's greatness and what is now symbolizing Kansas City's
greatness is four plays a game. It's about four plays
that they win. All these games close, and they're four
for four every week on them. And that was what
New England compared them to New England about a month ago.
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New England didn't have the best players, they had holes,
dead liabilities, they were pantom a lot, but about four
times a game against the good teams are in crisis,
they never missed. Their execution was insane. That is not luck.
That is not luck. There have been Hail Mary's where
you're like, okay, that feels like that. I didn't think
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that Commander Hale Mary was luck at all. That was prep.
I mean the guy literally just pushed off in the
back bounce right to him. It's like that was well done.
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Speaker 1 (34:27):
How about Colorado? Colorado right now feels like a real
shot with Utah's loss, a real shot potentially to make
the playoff. That's great. I know you can say what
you want, but we know it's going to be mostly
SEC and big ten teams and then there's gonna be
a big twelve team ACC team. Keep your eye on Colorado.
They have the best two players arguably in the sport.
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It matters. So you know, last night I was thinking
about this watching Tua and Stafford struggle in the first half.
Neither got great protection. Is a great movement guy, and
as I was watching the game and Stafford getting bad protection,
there's just limitations to what he can do. He really needs.
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Same with Tua, and again, I think Stafford's one of
the great passers in the league, but neither guy without protection.
You can see if Lamar Josh Allen's in that space,
it's different. They make stuff happen, they need protection. And
I was thinking about this, and I'm not gonna mention
every quarterback in the league. I'm gonna mostly stick to
the really good ones. So if I leave your quarterback out,
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it's not a slight but I do feel like athletically
in terms of movement. Just in terms of movement. There
are three classifications of quarterbacks. The first one and I
would call this the sprinter class Josh Allen, Jaden, Daniels Kyler, Murray,
Lamar Jackson. They can run as much as they want.
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I mean, it is an absolute weapon and sometimes it's
better than the passing. Sometimes they lead with it. It
should be noted no Super Bowl trophies there. Have they
relied too much on their athleticism. I don't know, but
it's just something to note. The second class is scramblers.
There's some Super Bowls here, right. These guys are athletic,
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prefer to throw from the pocket, can certainly beat you
with their legs, but they don't feel like they're hyper hyper.
Josh Allen athletic, although Mahomes is really good and Brock
pretty moves much better than I gave him credit for.
Burl's got a Tony rommel Field. He moves very well.
These are the scramblers. And then the third one is
I would call stationary. These are pocket guys. Some move
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better than others. But it's Aaron Rodgers Stafford to a
Jared Gofkirk Cousins. Now there again, Stafford's got a super Bowl,
Aaron's got a super Bowl. Golf's beIN too a super Bowl.
So the only one that doesn't have a lot of
super Bowls, it's the one. It's the first one, and
I don't know if that means anything. It could be coincidental.
I think Josh Allen Lamar Jackson eventually both win a
Super Bowl. But my take is that Owden side to
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number three is that you need a committee to support them.
Tua and Stafford need an above average offensive line, and
that's really expensive. There's so many bad old lines in
the league, left tackles, right tackle centers. You got to
have an expensive on line. We came into the season
with Lamar Jackson and we all acknowledged Baltimore's weakness was
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on line had zero impact, zero impact. I mean outside
of left tackle. How many Pro bowlers Josh Allen never
had in front of him? Zero impact? They went twelve
thirteen games zero a Kyler Murray, they have one tackle.
I really like offensive line, Okay, Arizona's red hot Jayden Daniels.
We came into the season. I don't know if I like.
Washington's offensive line had zero impact. The kids just super
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right moves all over the place. So the downside to
be into a Stafford when the protection break down, and
you saw it last night, they're in big trouble. So
you have to pay for a better offensive line. You're
gonna spend some money. You're not gonna be able to
spend all the money you want. So once you start
paying tour Stafford, you can have holes in the offensive line.
Miami's on line right now not a team strength rams
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offensive line. They have to draft a couple of tackles
in this next draft. It is not a strength. And
the other thing is and you got to be honest
about this. Generally, if you're a stationary quarterback, an elite
play designer, slash caller, matters a lot to n Stafford
both have one. Okay, kirk Cousins, I don't know. Aaron
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Rodgers doesn't, so you would. I'm not saying the sprinter
class is where what you want. I think those guys
will all potentially win super Bowls, the second and the
third class more trophies. But watching Tua and Stafford last night,
you do see you can win a lot. But the
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reason kirk Cousins chose Atlanta really wanted to go there,
great O line. When Stafford went to La with Whitworth,
great o' line. When Brady went to Tampa, what did
he do? Get me Tristan Wurf's and get me Gronk
excellent O line for the record, Jared Goff, they figured
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out very quickly in the move pinay sewell, get him
a big time O line. So you can do it
with the stationary class. Got to spend money on the
old line. And it really helps to have an elite
play designer or caller. Now the good News two has
got one, Stafford's got one, and you're fine. Aaron doesn't,
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and I think you're seeing it. He didn't have an
elite O line, nor does he have an elite play caller.
And at forty he's not gonna elevate those guys, all right,
herd hierarchy, somebody makes an appearance in the old hierarchy.
It is a it's a team that doesn't make the
(39:54):
herd hierarchy very often, and they made it this week.
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