November 18, 2024 • 41 mins
After another thrilling matchup between the Bills and the Chiefs, Colin believes the Bills might have proved this is their best team in years. He tells you why he was right about Bo Nix and wrong about Anthony Richardson. He talks to Super Bowl champion Drew Brees about Lamar Jackson struggling against the Steelers. Plus, Chargers running back JK Dobbins joins the show to talk about his game winning TD over the Bengals to improve to 7-3 on the season
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go to Monday. Lots and lots and lots
to talk about in La. It's the Herd. Wherever you
may be, however you may be listening, Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, Drew
Brees stops by where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, Well,
yesterday we had a big prize fight on Friday that
was a dud. We had a prize fight yesterday that
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wasn't a dud. Buffalo, Kansas City, which, by the way,
in the regular season the Bills are beating the fourth
rate times. But you know what, the way it works
in the NFL, it's like college basketball. Nobody cares until
Mark Nobody wants to hear about December January February and
college basketball North Carolina they want March and so Jay Mack,
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the Bills do beat the Chiefs. It's official. They don't
beat them when they really want to beat them, but
they beat them all the time. So Buffalo is now
four and one against Kansas City in the regular season.
So fun game, great game, prize fight look great. Kansas
City probably still going to get home field advantage, but
they didn't need it last year, so it's not the
be all endo. What did we learn from the game. Well,
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I do believe, and I've said this for probably a
month and a half, I think this is the best
version of Buffalo to beat Kansas City. They were missing
three starters offensively, and they still had three hundred and
sixty six yards scored, thirty points, were great on third down,
They dominated the game. This is the best version of Buffalo.
They were missing a great tight end, you know, they're
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missing an offensive lineman, they're missing a star wide receiver,
and they still move the ball. They dominate third down,
they dominate time of possession, They controlled the football game,
and so I think this is the the absolute best
version of Buffalo. For years and years, they always had like,
you know, mediocre running backs. They don't anymore. They would
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have no number one receiver, or if they did, Stefan
Diggs you liked him, but it got dramatic. Amari Cooper's
like quiet volume, makes plays, never hear a peep. It's
like it just works. Buffalo. Buffalo's note a flashy team.
They have a incredibly dynamic quarterback. But it is a
middle class, tough, blue collar, punch in the mouth, play, physical,
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jump on picnic tables. That's what it is. That's even
the Jim Kelly teams and the Josh Allen teams. You
had a great quarterback that can make amazing things happen.
But it's a tough town. Tough people a way to win.
They like to play at home. They use the weather
and their toughness to their advantage. And but it's the NFL.
It's a new era. You gotta have something on the sidelines.
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You gotta have some wiggle, right And like Buffer was like, okay,
you got the tough down, you got the Josh Allen down.
We've seen that before with Buffalo. That was the Jim
Kelly teams. You had a great quarterback, you were tough,
you had a good coach, and like, but this team
now is got more offensive weapons, so Josh Allen didn't
have to put the cape on all the time. This
version of Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I like.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So, And let's be honest about Kansas City. They have
been the best team in the NFL last couple of years,
situationally in big moments. But they've had to be because
they're not Detroit. They don't steamroll anybody. I mean, they
were on a fifteen game winning streak. Twelve of those
wins were one possession, So they've got to be great
and they are situationally, but they have to out smart,
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they have to out clever because that's what they have
right now. When you pay Mahomes what you pay him,
you're not going to have two great receivers. You can't
beat Cincinnati. And I mean, I just think there was
a moment in that game. It was a big play
at the end of the half, and I thought it
was really interesting where Buffalo ended the first half. Josh
Allen had a really bad pick. Is really bad pick.
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And you know, I saw, like everybody in the homes,
you know, a lot of quarterbacks, Russell Wilson had really
bad picks yesterday and Josh played great, but he had
a really bad pick. Kansas City takes it, marches down,
and I'm thinking, oh, here we go, here we go.
This is the moment Buffalo is gonna fold against Kansas City.
But they didn't. They settled down. Josh Allen wasn't gonna
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let it happen. They let it happen. They never trailed,
They never trailed. So it was the prize fight we
thought we hoped we'd get on Friday. You know, we
thought Friday was gonna be a big fight, and it
was a dud this one. As we tuned in, I'm like,
I don't know what I learned. This is the best
version of Buffalo Kansas City. This thing had to end eventually.
You can't just win close games forever. There was a
moment in this game where I thought I kind of
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thought Buffalo was gonna fold. Josh bad pick Chiefs marched down,
but you know what, they didn't. And they made big
plays that Amari Cooper catch and this feels like a
little different, little more forditude. Josh Allen the knockout punch
run for a touchdown and here he was after.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know it's a from perception, outside perception, it's a
really big game, and what it means for both fan
bases in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We're in week eleven.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You know, we're nine and two. Last time I checked,
nine wins probably doesn't get you in the playoffs. So
you know, going into spyweek, get to enjoy ourselves a
little bit. But coming back ready, you know, a hungry
team and just trying to go one to know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Now, let's state it again, Buffalo does beat Kansas City.
This is not Lamar Jackson against the Steelers. He can't
beat him. No, No, Buffalo beats Kansas City a lot,
four straight regular season. They're very good at that. It
has been late in the season. You get to the playoffs,
it becomes very situational. The weather is worse in the game,
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the margins get tiny, tiny, tiny. But I did come
out of that and think, now they really this is
really good. This is a super Bowl capable trophy team.
That's what it feels. We know Detroit is, we know
Kansas City is. You know, I'm having my doubts now
every week on Baltimore. We may just have three teams
capable of hoisting a trophy. We know Detroit's good enough,
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they're steamrolling people. We know Kansas City situationally, brilliant. And
I watched Buffalo yesterday and I'm like, they don't steamroll you,
but they have their moments when they got a little
Detroit and they were pretty good situationally. I think this
is the third team Buffalo that can hoist a trophy.
I mean we may only have three. Okay, So last
night was crazy. Chargers beat the Bengals thirty four to
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twenty seven. So I was sitting watching this game. What
you witnessed was two kind of funky franchises, the Bengals
and the Chargers historically. And what you saw in the
first half was a quarterback put on a clinic, and
then what you saw in the second half was the
other quarterback put on a clinic. In the first half,
Justin Herbert was insane. Two hundred and forty yards. I
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mean he's got very little to work with receiver and
tight end, two touchdowns, one hundred and fifty three passer
raty seventy one percent, completion percentage twenty four to six
at half. I kept thinking, in the first half, Jesus
Herbert is so good. He makes Joe Burrow look pedestrian.
He was that good in the first half, just absolutely
on fire. And then in the second half, Joe Burrow
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may have been better. Joe Burrow was so good in
the second half. I thought, good God, Joe Burrow was
so good. He makes Justin Herbert look pedestrian. It was
MJ against the Blazers. Burrow made two or three of
the best plays I've seen a quarterback make all year.
Three touchdowns, no picks, two hundred and seventy three yards,
one hundred and four passer rating. Now he's got more
stuff to work with. But what you're looking at with
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Herbert and Burrow, they're similar in some ways, smart guys,
but Herbert's a power quarterback. He's a bigger, stronger, power thrower.
Joe is a little a little better touch, a little
more clever, can be a little bit more creative. They're
both unbelievable. They're both bright kids, coholics. You know, they're
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not looking for a lot of love in the endorsement game.
Oh I guess this year Joe Burrow off season went
to a fashion show, and you know he's got the
little stuff in his hair. But in the end, I'm
sitting there thinking, unless you have him mahomes Josh Allen
that last night, I'm sitting on a couch, thinking man.
Ninety percent of the teams in this league, fans in
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this league, gms in this league. Owners in this league
had to have quarterback envy watching these two teams play.
And then Herbert dominates the first half, just like jaw dropping,
like good God, and then Burrow may have been better
in the second half. And then all of a sudden,
we're all tied up, and they go back and the
ping pong and they volleyball it, and they go back
and forth and nobody can win. And eventually it wasn't
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Herbert or Burrow, it was justin Herbert. A teammate JK.
Dobbins gave him some help, peeled off the big run
down the left sideline. This is a game the LA Chargers,
the San Diego Chargers, the Carson charge would have lost
the last forty years. And somehow Harbaugh and Herbert great
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coach and quarterback, never wobbled, never wobbled.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know it, and I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
There's a term called charging. And I'm sitting there watching
this and I'm like, no, no, I saw this happen
seven times last year. I don't want to see this.
I'm getting you know it, was nothing against Joe Burrow.
He was incredible. But I thought to myself, they're gonna
lose this thing, aren't they. And they didn't, and they're
not going to because that's what Harbaugh and Herbert you
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know it, you said it for years, got it. You
could just get justin Herbert, the coach and the culture,
if you could just get justin the protection, eh. And
they have and they have and they have and they won.
And here's the coach after.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Guys, just don't you know, didn't flinch, didn't buckle, didn't
even stumble, just just kept right at it and responded.
I've been to this movie a few times, so I
know what it looks like. And yeah, there's no no
nobody we'd rather have. We just feel like we got
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the right guys.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Listen, the Chargers still need They're not quite Buffalo. They
still need to meet another playmaker or two. Offensively, the
Bengals need more defense. But i'm I'm the Chargers are
very close to being exceptional, and maybe lad Maconkey grows,
they'll have to be totally healthy. They're not deep enough
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yet where they can be missing like Buffalo, three offensive
starters and still get almost four hundred yards against the Chiefs,
but that win wasn't about the yards, and it was
about a game they dominated, it evaporated, it was tied.
Burrow was on fire. That game was a loss the
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last forty years, and there was something about resilience, a
little old word moxie, toughness mentally, not just physically, and
they pulled it out that For a Charger fan, it
felt like it's a new day, same roster as last year,
overwhelmingly totally new team, totally new vibe, totally new feeling.
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And I want to say this in a losing effort,
Burrow was insane. I mean, some of those throws Joe
Burrow made were as good a plays as I've seen
all year. That includes mahomes Lamar justin Jalen Hurts. I
mean he was just spitting'. I mean some of these
throws don't even just everything worked, everything clicked. The real
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winner beyond the Chargers last night was fans. That was
a great showcase, an incredible showcase of what a great
quarterback can do to a franchise because Cincinnati had been
cheap forever and the Chargers have been funky forever, and
instead you got a great game. One team dominates one half,
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one dominates the other, and then in the end Harbaugh
Herbert figure out a way to pull out a W.
By the way, you know, I love Lamar Jackson. I'll
get to that in a second. There is something about
the Steelers and Lamar Jackson. It goes sideways every time
they play, and I can't quite figure it out. I'll
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try to guess around the corner. Drew Brees one hour
from now, actually forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It was a fun weekend. I had a feeling I'd
said this Friday and blazing five. I didn't love this match.
I thought Cincinnati desperate and that playmaking offense, well, it
was great. It just wasn't great until the second half.
Like Cincinnati was a little bit shell shocked. They couldn't
make stops, they couldn't get the offense going. Cincinnati was
completely out of sorts in the entire first half.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
And didn't we talk about the char Orers last week
as a potential scary team in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's a team.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I know we love the Chiefs and Andy Reid here
at this network, but I like to Chargers team a lot.
They are very dangerous Colin, they match up really well.
To do with all the AFC's JK.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Dobbins's gonna be on our show in the third hour,
going to stop by a game running touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
All Right, here we go. We do it every Monday
at this time. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,
and there's always plenty of both.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Bo Nicks four touchdowns in the last seven weeks. He
has been the best rookie quarterback in the league without
a doubt. Last seven weeks, thirteen touchdowns, two picks, one
zero six passer rating and sixty nine percent completion percentage.
And this is not a great roster. They're in cap
hell because of the Russell Wilson deal. They're draft pick light.
And I told you, I said, I think this is
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Drew Brees with more mobility. And when Bay I just
said it was a five win team, I'm like, Sean
Payton's worth three wins. Bow Knicks sixty one college starts,
gonna win some games. Bow Knicks looks like right now,
the last seven weeks, the most consistent quarterback in the
entire rookie class. And we told you Peyton would want him.
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He's perfect birth Peyton, and watch out where Colin was raw.
Anthony Richardson got benched, and I said, I don't know
if he's the guy gets hurt. Can't do this, get boy.
He looked great. He looked great throwing the ball down
the field. You still got all the dynamic stuff. In fact,
I would have run him more than they did. But
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I thought he looked excellent. The benching prided him good,
refocused his actuer accuracy. Unlike Aaron Rodgers. He threw the
ball down the field. He didn't make a big time throws.
So you know, sometimes it used to be you could
bench a quarterback twenty years ago and it wasn't the
lead headline story. It just happened. You could do it
in the NFL college high school. Now it's headlines. But
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the benching, I don't know what it was, but I
thought composure. You got all the upside of Anthony richards
and you got the big, strong athlete. You've got excellent timing,
excellent sideline throws. God's wrong on that where Colin was right.
I said, all Justin Herbert needs is Jim Harbaugh. I
remember before they hired Jim Harby said he's going to
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change the franchise overnight, and people are like overrated. No,
you're not. No, Jim Harbaugh's not. Everywhere he goes, he
turns the team around instantly. I mean Justin Herbert this year,
like last night's great example, Justin Herbert's the leading rusher.
He still doesn't have enough weapons. Two touchdowns, no picks,
ninety four passer rating. Justin didn't have a perfect second half.
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You can't. They don't have enough weapons. But Jim Harbaugh
has done exactly what we said he'd do. Stop doubting Harbaugh.
There's an argument he and Jimmy Johnson are the best
coaches ever in terms of college and pro. They win
both instantly. He's great. Was right. The New York Giants
are going to replace Daniel Jones with Tommy DeVito, who,
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by the way, was fun to watch. I never got
Daniel Jones as a number six pick. I did not
get doubling down on the contract. Since he signed that contract.
In the last two years, he's three and thirteen, ten touchdowns,
and thirteen picks. Seems like a nice kid from the South.
Maybe they felt he was going to be the next
Eli Manning, but it's just one of those. He's not
a natural thrower. He's a big, strong kid that moves
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pretty well, but he misses too many easy throws. And
Brian dabol is a really good coach. He knows what
he's doing. He's done everything. He got this kid into
the playoffs. But since he signed that contract, maybe it's
the pressure. He's gotten worse. And from the very beginning,
we just didn't think this was ever going to work
where Colin was raw the minute I called Colorado the
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fake idea of college football. Five minutes later, they've been
on fire. They blew out Utah. Utah doesn't get blown
out a lot. Forty nine to twenty four. Now, I
think shaduor Sanders is absolutely unbelief. But they've caught fire
as a program. They control their destiny. They could win
the Big Twelve. I don't know when I watch them play.
If you have the two best players in college football
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and they maybe do, I think you deserve to be
in the playoff. They could win the Big Twelve. I
bailed on him I said, you know, that's a lot
of sizzle. It's a lot of like Shoulder and Travis Hunter.
But their defensive line creates pressure, they get turnovers. Boy,
was I wrong on Colorado. I was right for a while,
but the minute I gave up, they turned twenty one
and they're for real, not a fake ID where Colin
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was right. Guys, the Jets were never going to be
a playoff team. They don't have that kind of leadership
and Aaron Rodgers. You can blame everybody else. When Robert
Sala got fired, I said, do not listen to New
York media. He's your best coach. You are letting your
best coach out of the building, and you do not
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have an elite coordinator. Ever since Sala left, the offense
is worse, the defense is worse. You don't have to
love Robert Slim, but they fired him five days before
he was gonna face Buffalo for a chance to be
in first place. Memo to bad NFL owners, Never let
your best coach, even if he's not Andy Reid. Never
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let your best coach walk out of the building. This
is the one sport in America, not baseball, hockey, NBA.
We're a coach Sean Payton can be worth four wins.
He'll let the best coach in the staff walk out.
It didn't make any sense then, doesn't make any sense now.
Where Colin was right, Jared Goff remains the most underrated quarterback,
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maybe in the last decade in this league. Folks his
perfect passer ratings, their routine. I know his offensive line
is good. Well, everybody needs a good offensive line. Jared
a former number one pick. I watched him at Cal.
He is I believe he is a better Matt Ryan,
a better arm. He's poised, he's hoff when he gets hit.
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He's never injured, he doesn't miss games. He's obviously a
kid line of scrimmage. But Jared Goff because he doesn't move,
he doesn't have the sizzle. He doesn't run around everybody,
just like eyes overrated folks. He took the Rams to
the super Bowl, and right now the Lions are favored
to get to the super Bowl. It can't always be
everybody else is the reason you're good. At some point,
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you're the reason your teams are always good. Where Colin
was right, well, I predicted Jake, Paul and Tyson would
be a circus, and I like going to the circus
about once a year, and that's what it was. This
is why boxing cannot be a foundational piece of a
sports network and why this network and ESPN and NBC
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have kind of bailed on boxing. But but a lot
of people cared. A lot of people watched. I watched,
my wife watched. This is what boxing can be a
little clicky looking for the headlines. I did think Jake
Paul had a a lot of self awareness. When the
fight was over, he acknowledged nobody wanted to see me
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beat up on Tyson. Mike lost half the blood in
his body in July. This fight should have been in
March or April. He ran out of gas by the
middle of the third round. He lost his legs. Listen,
there was a fifty to fifty chance this was going
to be a dud, and it was for everybody except
Netflix's bottom line. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was
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wrong on a Monday, Oh, I haven't talked to Drew
Brees in a couple of weeks. Thirteen time Pro Bowl
are going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Twenty NFL seasons. You know you had one of the
most intense coaches in the history of the league is
Sean Payton. And that's why I love Sean. He's intense.
He don't have to guess what he's thinking. Harbaugh similarly,
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you know, people for years have said he's a little
odd whatever, you know exactly what he thinks. I cannot
believe how he's taken the same Ross or Drew. It's
the same defensive roster. Give me an idea of what
he'd by the way Sean went to New Orleans, they
were the worst team in the league. The next year
they weren't. You've been in these rebuilding things. What do
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you think the secret sauce with Harball.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Was there as something to be said for accountability and consistency.
And to your point, wherever hardball has been it's been
a very similar formula. It's been we are going to
run the football, We're going to play great defense, and
as a result to that, that will put the quarterback
in a lot better situations.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Lack I think some top end playmakers. Yeah, on the
edge with that charger offense. And yet if you're running
the ball effectively, you're.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Going to get some favorable matchups outside.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You're going to have the ability to get guys open
with play.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Action and other things.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
And then it's just a matter of developing a trust
in chemistry with the guys that you're throwing to and
understanding the formula to winning. Just playing great defense, run
the football, taking care of the football, and you're always
going to be then in a position to win games.
And then if you just become a master of situational football,
which the guys like Belichick and Harball and a few
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others are, then you're always in a position where you're
gonna have a wrinkler two when you really need it
most in order to win these football games. And that's
what you're seeing right now with them.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
One of the things that made your Saints great, similar
to Brady Belichick or Annie Mahomes, is you had an identity.
You guys were play designers. You were efficient, didn't You
didn't when I watched the Saints with Drew Brees, you
didn't leave anything on the editing floor, Like I knew
you were efficient. You know, I knew if you lost,
somebody out played it that it happens. I watch Baltimore,
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I swear every time they face the Steelers of the Chiefs,
they lose their identity. They suddenly get finesse. They passed
too much. I watched it this weekend and suddenly they're
throwing at thirty three, they're running at nineteen. There's no
Derrick Henry when you were in big games, was is
this something that you sometimes had that you would think, Drew, Guys,
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we're getting away from who we are, get back to
who we are. Because Baltimore has really struggled with this
in these games against Kansas City and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah. Look, it's it's to your point. It's stay true
to your identity, understand what wins, and understand just.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Who you are.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And Baltimore is always going to be run the football,
play great defense, yes, and then and then the passing game,
and some of the flash it comes off of that.
But look, I'll say this. You know Pittsburgh doesn't fear Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
I think there's a lot of teams that step on
the field with Baltimore and all of a sudden, you know,
you get Lamar making some plays and you know Derrick
Henry running downhill at you, and I'm sure they get intimidated.
But I think we know by now that the Mike
Tomlin Ben Steelers like they don't fear anybody. They certainly
don't fear anybody in the division. Now, I think they
take pride in the fact that and they play Snashville
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football and that's just what they do.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think that's what you've seen in these matchups.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Between Pittsburgh and Baltimore is that man Pittsburgh is like,
we're going to hit him the mouth. We know how
to play lamar. I mean, look, he's going to make
his fair share of plays, but let's try to make
him do stuff that's maybe outside of his comfort zone
or not, you know, outside of their identity.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So I want you to go back to your first
couple of years or maybe your first year with and
you'd already had some years in the league. So it's
not perfectly analogous, but there is something that when I
watch this weekend, I watched bow Nicks is I'm sorry,
but last seven games, he's the best rookie quarterback. And
I think we both have great admiration for Sean that
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he gives bowl a couple of laps, he plays into
his athletics straints. But it's more than that. I mean,
bow looked so confident yesterday. What is the secret to
the unlocking of letting you play with confidence but yet
not sloppy you, letting you take risks but they're official.
I feel like bow Knicks is pushing the envelope every week,
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but still he's not throwing picks, he's not making mistakes.
Take me to that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Well, I'll say this, The biggest thing for bow Knicks
is what happened last week against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Even though they lost that game, it certainly was through
no fault of his own right. He put his team
in a position to go win that game in the
end and they got the field bow block. But from
a confidence perspective, you basically went in to Arrowhead and
playing against the gold standard of organizations here in your
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few in the over the last few years, and you
put your team in a position to go win that game.
And so I think coming into this game, I think
his confidence level was just at another level. And look,
if you take you knew it was going to take
a little bit of time this year. Hey, he's a
rookie quarterback. He's going to do rookie stuff at times.
He's still developing and understanding in a comfort level with
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the offense. He's developing a chemistry with all of his receivers. Look,
I don't think the Broncos have like any super elite,
you know, weapons outside. I think they have a bunch
of big receivers that he that bo Nix is now
developing a trust in the confidence with obviously a great
coach and play caller and a guy who also needed
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to get a feeling and understanding for what his quarterback
could do and is capable of, and you know, putting
him in the best positions to succeed, and putting him
in positions where you know, he knows he's going to
be able to limit the mistakes and kind of bring
him along, you know. And so now I think we're
just starting to see you know, hey, we're ten eleven
games into this thing, and this is what you're saying.
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Plus just the development of confidence along the way. Look
that the Denver defense is playing great. I think the
run game is coming along for them, and so all
of those things. But most importantly what happened last week. Man,
you just don't understand you talking about moral victories, right,
like they really should have won that game. Oh yeah,
you'd be put him in a position the game and
should have won the game even though they didn't. I
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know the feeling I would have had as bo Nick's
walking in the locker room. Yes, pissed off because we
just lost the Chiefs. We should have won that game.
Shouldn't be Patrick Mahomes. But in my mind, I'm thinking
to myself, we can beat anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, so I'm watching. I said the Baltimore in Kansas
City was the prize fight we were hoping Netflix would
give us on Friday. I mean Mahomes Alan coaching toughness.
Sometimes I feel like Josh Allen is so talented, Drew
it would be a little hard not to just take
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off and run. He's so big, he can do so
many things, and I think sometimes you're coaching him, not
coaching him down, but you're like use your weapons, you know.
And I watched him yesterday run over the Chiefs to
get to the end zone. I'm like, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a quarterback that can do that. When
you watch Josh Allen, what do you see?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah, He's He's such a unique player in his just
his physical traits, his size, his strength, I mean, his
ability to throw the ball down the feat. You know,
this ability to improvise. I mean you see it time
and time again, you know. And I think the thing
for for him, just as he's continued to mature, is,
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you know, just develop that consistency that developed like that,
that trust, that trust in the plan and in the formula.
I think it's easy for a guy who is so
used to just kind of making place off script too
too quickly at times go off script. And and I
think that's just again the maturation process of a quarterback
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who's coming into his own to really man trust the system,
play within the system, trust the formula.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And then when there are those.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Opportunities where you are forced to abort the pocket or
man the team needs a play, you then turn it
on and know, Okay, now it's time to go make
the play.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I want to We'll show some video. I said justin
Herbert was great in the first half. Burrow in the
second half, it felt like Michael Jordan against the Blazers.
He was doing stuff like he was in a zone
and all you guy, I mean you you were a
seventy percent completion guy, but did you ever get to
a point in games where drew it all worked? The
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ball felt better. I mean it just I'm watching him
make plays and I'm like, this is like a dominant
high school kid. I mean they charge. I mean if
he's had libbing, ducking under stuff, I'm like, I don't
know if I've seen a better half of football from
a quarterback this year. You got into those moments, you
got into those halfs, and is it a rhythm thing.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah. I think what was most impressive about Burrow last
night is it's not that it was just everything was
coming out on time, in rhythm. You know, ball out
of his hands in two seconds. I knew you're hitting
the first progression majority of time. I mean most of
those plays were him stepping up, yeah, or you know,
navigating receivers, you know the direction that he wanted them
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to go, avoiding you know, tacklers or free hitters in
the pocket like that. That was the part that was
most impressive was there was a lot of.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Stuff that was off script.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
But it wasn't like just running around. I mean, it
was it was like this discipline of like you talk
about pocket presence, man stepping up, avoid one guy, slide
to the right, you know, look at your second progression.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
No, it's not there, step up again. Third progression.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
No, okay, I'm you know, taking off and running right
through the middle of the hashes for fifteen yards or
man by a little bit of time to let like.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was a little bit of everything.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But it was like you talk about sustaining drives in
situations where man he was dead to rights at times
in the pocket somehow, some way, and everything about it
was just so fundamentally sound. Two hands on the ball,
like navigating it away from the defender. It was really
impressive to watch. It was.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I love that play at Jamar Chase where he's in
the pocket and you can see him go, hey, go
over there. He's it's like it's like right basketball, Hey bro,
go over the corner. I'll get your three. That's like,
it's so awesome to watch that. We had those moments.
It's those are the kind of moments I'm thinking a
guy like you miss this football where it's like when
you're in the rhythm, you're talking to your receipt, you're
directing traffic, you're a traffic cop. That's I just I'm
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sitting on the couch thinking this is incredible what I'm watching.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah, it's that flow state. That quote unquote sown. Yeah,
that feels pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, Drew Brees is gonna be a first ballot Hall
of Famer. Love having you on man, Appreciate you seeing
you again.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, it was one for the Ages last night. We said,
in my entire life, the Chargers have had all sorts
of good players, but they lose games like last night
where you think they should win it. And here's J. K.
Dobbins last night Chargers Radio with a game winner. Hand
off to Dobbins and there goes Dobbins, hot his horse
to the twenty to the fifteen to the ten. End
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of the episode, Touchstone shut duos twenty nine yards and
let's bring in JK. Dobbins live. He is join your show.
There are reports a big smile that you got in
trouble because you didn't sit down. Instead you jumped into
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the end zone. Did you get in trouble? Tell us?
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Uh so, no, Look I'll tell you, I'll tell you
what happened. So before that play Bozeman Bradley Boseman in
the center.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
He comes up to me. He's like, f it, score,
just score, just score. When we get the ball, just
go score. I'm looking at him like I don't know.
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And we had a time out and I went to
the sideline and I asked coach Kyle McDonald, I running
ass coach.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I was like, look, if I get the ball here,
can I score? You want me to score?
Speaker 9 (32:53):
He's like he thinks about it. He's like, ethic, score,
just score, you'll go score. So when I got it,
I was like, I'm taking this stay into the house.
That ain't gonna look it back. And that's what happened
right there. You know, it was a great moment. You know,
I probably I probably should have set it down, but
but my sitner told me to score, and I got
the okay from my coach.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
So I was like, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
By the way, I am old school on that. My
take is when you can light a stadium up, when
you can literally it's so definite, just get into the
end zone and score. You guys work so hard, you
take a beating. Just get into the end zone. If
you lose that game. It's not on you. Sometimes there's
happenstance in Hail Mary. So good for you. But it's interesting.
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You were with a winning organization. So you play high school,
you're a great high school player, you go to Ohio State,
you go to the Ravens and you're like everywhere you go, well,
run this and that. And then you get trade of
the Chargers and they were really bad last year. Was
your first thought?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh, what am I getting myself into? You're going from
Ohio State to the Ravens. Were you worried a little bit?
Is this or did hardball make you feel like, Okay,
this is gonna work? Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
No, I was.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I wasn't worried. That's why I came here.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Actually, I knew that this team had all the talent
in the world, and I know the hardballs there.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'm like part of the family.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
So I knew that the culture that we're going to
bring or that coach Jim was going to bring, and
I wasn't worried one bit.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I knew we were gonna come in this year and we're.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Gonna do some stuff that is going to shock the world,
you know, because so much talent on this team like
just watching him from Afar.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know, even when I was on the Rapiers.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
You you look at the Chargers and you see Derwin James,
you see Justin Herbert, you see Joey Bosa, my fellow
Buck Eye.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
You see all these these these players that are so talented,
and you just wonder, like, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 8 (34:44):
So whenever I got the opportunity, I was like, you
know what, I'm I'm gonna go there because I think
I can go help these guys win and I can
go change the change the organization around.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Justin Herbert. I I love him so he he's quiet,
he's not on social media. For somebody that hangs out
with him every day, explain to our audience what he's like,
because he's about as humble as a great athlete in America.
That's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Is Yeah, he's a he's a special kind of human being.
You know, he's amazing.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Like he seems quiet to you guys, but he's definitely
not quiet. He's a he's a brother.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
He's my brother. Like I love him so much, Like
you could joke around with him.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
He jokes around, he laughs, he but when it's serious,
he's serious.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
You know he has that. You know when he's locked in.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
You know he's a beast when he's locked in too,
So you know it's he's versatile.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I guess you could say that he's versatile. He could
he can kid around with you, or he could be like, hey,
let's let's lock in. You know, so I think that's
he's a special human being.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Explain Jim Harball. Everywhere he goes it could be Stanford, Niners, Michigan.
He not only turns it around, JK. He does it
in six weeks. It's a totally different. I mean, this
team last year was finesse. Now you're as physical as
the Steelers or you're ravens. What is it with Jim?
What is the secret?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Sauce man, I honestly can't tell you to see yourself
because he's he's unique. He's a lot different than his brother.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
You know, as far as the work that we put in,
it's the same, it's almost the same, it's identical. But
him as a person, he's unique. I've never met anyone
like coach Harbaugh. Coach Jim Harbor, I've never met anyone
like him any And I mean that in an amazing way,
like he's just like I remember in the spring, he's
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out there working out with us, like getting it in.
He's serious though, like he's not just bull crapping around.
He's actually seriously like he's trying to get this.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Work in, you know, get better. You know, he's different.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
You know he's genuine and you know some of the
things he says it might come up funny, but it's
so real and it's great, you know, and I love him.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I love him as a coach and as a person.
He's the best the.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's interesting when you don't know the history of the
Chargers as much, but if you live out West, they've
had great players forever. But there's a term called chargering
where they outplay teams and lose. I mean that's literally
a term. Again you're with Baltimore, Ohio State that you
guys win. Is there was a time last night when
it was close, it was tied, and you were so
(37:32):
good early and I thought, oh my god, oh no,
they're not gonna But it was funny. Both defenses showed
up late on the sidelines when you took the ball
over late. Was there a sense, guys, we're going down
Maconkey JK, we're gonna score.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
What was the huddle like, Oh yeah, man, we were confident.
We we know, we knew once we got the ball
it was over. What was it, forty five seconds left
on the clock.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
We knew it was over. We knew it was over.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
We like lad called him Ladarius. I ain't gonna tell
you why, but that's his nickname for me. You know,
he's a beast.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
He comes from a winning place too, Georgia. You know,
he wanted I think he won a national championship. So
we got those type of guys on this roster that
we come from, winning pedigree, you winning culture, you know,
and it showed up last night, and no matter what happened,
you know, when they came back on us, nobody flinched.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Nobody at it or I we were we were locked in.
We knew we were gonna go win the game.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
So it's a testament to what what coach Jim has
brought to this team, the culture and everything.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
How special is it for you? You've been hurt back
to back seasons, that you're healthy, you've rehabbed, rehab stinks.
It's awful. Is this like, does this feel like a
really unique, special year for you because the pain and
the injury and the rehab you've gone through.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, this this year is a.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
It's a It's a year granted by the Lord, the
Lord Jesus, you know, because you you.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Think about some of the injuries that I had.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
Most people don't come back from and you know they
don't and if they do, they don't perform at a
high level. You know, Like I tore my so in
like a two year span we're talking about. I tore
my a cl LCL. My hamstring came off. I'm in
this kuss and it took three surgeries just to get back.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
From my knee, you know. And then I come back.
I finally get back healthy, and then in the first.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Game, I blow my achilles, which a lot of people say, oh,
you can't come back from achilles, Like running backs don't
come back from that, they don't come back from knees.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
And so I'm listening to these guys, but I'm really not.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I'm not listening to anyone because I just have so
much faith in Jesus and then my work ethic as well,
you know. So it's a special year for me because
I finally get to show people like, Hey, whenever I'm healthy,
I might be one of the best running backs in
the NFL. You know, give them the volume and all
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that stuff. You know, i might be one of those guys,
you know. And I'm finally getting to prove it. I'm
finally getting a chance to prove it. And I'm gonna
keep getting better.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
That's the thing.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Like, it's just the first year. I tore my achilles
last year. This is my first year back, so I
got lots of room to improve. So it's only gonna
keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Only a minute left. I just listen. When you lose
to the Hoosiers this weekend, I don't want you to
get all bummed out. You know what, They're really good.
They're really They score a lot of points. JK. Are
you ready for a potential loss.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Let me ask you something. Yeah, what are the ranked
opponents that y'all played? Who are the ranked opponents that
we Indiana Hoosiers?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
No, there's none.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Huh, Well, I mean they haven't played. They haven't played
the hardest schedule. I that okay, I admit that it
hasn't been the hardest schedule. Just give me a score.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
So I got I got the buck geys winning by
fourteen points. Man at least.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Okay, thirty four to twenty ish kind of thing, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, yes, sir, all right, well what you
what you think? What's you think?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think it's I think it's I think it's thirty
twenty eight. We're out of time.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Great having you on the show, money.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
All right? JK. Dobbins what a good guy? Talked to
him before the before the thing. He I mean, listen, man,
that guy's story is all guts like there's there's a
lot of guys would have packed it in. He didn't
walk off, won it. Good for him. Hope you enjoyed
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here we go to Monday. Lots and lots and lots
to talk about in La. It's the Herd. Wherever you
may be, however you may be listening, Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, Drew
Brees stops by where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, Well,
yesterday we had a big prize fight on Friday that
was a dud. We had a prize fight yesterday that
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wasn't a dud. Buffalo, Kansas City, which, by the way,
in the regular season the Bills are beating the fourth
rate times. But you know what, the way it works
in the NFL, it's like college basketball. Nobody cares until
Mark Nobody wants to hear about December January February and
college basketball North Carolina they want March and so Jay Mack,
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the Bills do beat the Chiefs. It's official. They don't
beat them when they really want to beat them, but
they beat them all the time. So Buffalo is now
four and one against Kansas City in the regular season.
So fun game, great game, prize fight look great. Kansas
City probably still going to get home field advantage, but
they didn't need it last year, so it's not the
be all endo. What did we learn from the game. Well,
(01:32):
I do believe, and I've said this for probably a
month and a half, I think this is the best
version of Buffalo to beat Kansas City. They were missing
three starters offensively, and they still had three hundred and
sixty six yards scored, thirty points, were great on third down,
They dominated the game. This is the best version of Buffalo.
They were missing a great tight end, you know, they're
(01:54):
missing an offensive lineman, they're missing a star wide receiver,
and they still move the ball. They dominate third down,
they dominate time of possession, They controlled the football game,
and so I think this is the the absolute best
version of Buffalo. For years and years, they always had like,
you know, mediocre running backs. They don't anymore. They would
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have no number one receiver, or if they did, Stefan
Diggs you liked him, but it got dramatic. Amari Cooper's
like quiet volume, makes plays, never hear a peep. It's
like it just works. Buffalo. Buffalo's note a flashy team.
They have a incredibly dynamic quarterback. But it is a
middle class, tough, blue collar, punch in the mouth, play, physical,
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jump on picnic tables. That's what it is. That's even
the Jim Kelly teams and the Josh Allen teams. You
had a great quarterback that can make amazing things happen.
But it's a tough town. Tough people a way to win.
They like to play at home. They use the weather
and their toughness to their advantage. And but it's the NFL.
It's a new era. You gotta have something on the sidelines.
(02:57):
You gotta have some wiggle, right And like Buffer was like, okay,
you got the tough down, you got the Josh Allen down.
We've seen that before with Buffalo. That was the Jim
Kelly teams. You had a great quarterback, you were tough,
you had a good coach, and like, but this team
now is got more offensive weapons, so Josh Allen didn't
have to put the cape on all the time. This
version of Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I like.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So, And let's be honest about Kansas City. They have
been the best team in the NFL last couple of years,
situationally in big moments. But they've had to be because
they're not Detroit. They don't steamroll anybody. I mean, they
were on a fifteen game winning streak. Twelve of those
wins were one possession, So they've got to be great
and they are situationally, but they have to out smart,
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they have to out clever because that's what they have
right now. When you pay Mahomes what you pay him,
you're not going to have two great receivers. You can't
beat Cincinnati. And I mean, I just think there was
a moment in that game. It was a big play
at the end of the half, and I thought it
was really interesting where Buffalo ended the first half. Josh
Allen had a really bad pick. Is really bad pick.
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And you know, I saw, like everybody in the homes,
you know, a lot of quarterbacks, Russell Wilson had really
bad picks yesterday and Josh played great, but he had
a really bad pick. Kansas City takes it, marches down,
and I'm thinking, oh, here we go, here we go.
This is the moment Buffalo is gonna fold against Kansas City.
But they didn't. They settled down. Josh Allen wasn't gonna
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let it happen. They let it happen. They never trailed,
They never trailed. So it was the prize fight we
thought we hoped we'd get on Friday. You know, we
thought Friday was gonna be a big fight, and it
was a dud this one. As we tuned in, I'm like,
I don't know what I learned. This is the best
version of Buffalo Kansas City. This thing had to end eventually.
You can't just win close games forever. There was a
moment in this game where I thought I kind of
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thought Buffalo was gonna fold. Josh bad pick Chiefs marched down,
but you know what, they didn't. And they made big
plays that Amari Cooper catch and this feels like a
little different, little more forditude. Josh Allen the knockout punch
run for a touchdown and here he was after.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know it's a from perception, outside perception, it's a
really big game, and what it means for both fan
bases in the league.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We're in week eleven.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You know, we're nine and two. Last time I checked,
nine wins probably doesn't get you in the playoffs. So
you know, going into spyweek, get to enjoy ourselves a
little bit. But coming back ready, you know, a hungry
team and just trying to go one to know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Now, let's state it again, Buffalo does beat Kansas City.
This is not Lamar Jackson against the Steelers. He can't
beat him. No, No, Buffalo beats Kansas City a lot,
four straight regular season. They're very good at that. It
has been late in the season. You get to the playoffs,
it becomes very situational. The weather is worse in the game,
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the margins get tiny, tiny, tiny. But I did come
out of that and think, now they really this is
really good. This is a super Bowl capable trophy team.
That's what it feels. We know Detroit is, we know
Kansas City is. You know, I'm having my doubts now
every week on Baltimore. We may just have three teams
capable of hoisting a trophy. We know Detroit's good enough,
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they're steamrolling people. We know Kansas City situationally, brilliant. And
I watched Buffalo yesterday and I'm like, they don't steamroll you,
but they have their moments when they got a little
Detroit and they were pretty good situationally. I think this
is the third team Buffalo that can hoist a trophy.
I mean we may only have three. Okay, So last
night was crazy. Chargers beat the Bengals thirty four to
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twenty seven. So I was sitting watching this game. What
you witnessed was two kind of funky franchises, the Bengals
and the Chargers historically. And what you saw in the
first half was a quarterback put on a clinic, and
then what you saw in the second half was the
other quarterback put on a clinic. In the first half,
Justin Herbert was insane. Two hundred and forty yards. I
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mean he's got very little to work with receiver and
tight end, two touchdowns, one hundred and fifty three passer
raty seventy one percent, completion percentage twenty four to six
at half. I kept thinking, in the first half, Jesus
Herbert is so good. He makes Joe Burrow look pedestrian.
He was that good in the first half, just absolutely
on fire. And then in the second half, Joe Burrow
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may have been better. Joe Burrow was so good in
the second half. I thought, good God, Joe Burrow was
so good. He makes Justin Herbert look pedestrian. It was
MJ against the Blazers. Burrow made two or three of
the best plays I've seen a quarterback make all year.
Three touchdowns, no picks, two hundred and seventy three yards,
one hundred and four passer rating. Now he's got more
stuff to work with. But what you're looking at with
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Herbert and Burrow, they're similar in some ways, smart guys,
but Herbert's a power quarterback. He's a bigger, stronger, power thrower.
Joe is a little a little better touch, a little
more clever, can be a little bit more creative. They're
both unbelievable. They're both bright kids, coholics. You know, they're
(08:01):
not looking for a lot of love in the endorsement game.
Oh I guess this year Joe Burrow off season went
to a fashion show, and you know he's got the
little stuff in his hair. But in the end, I'm
sitting there thinking, unless you have him mahomes Josh Allen
that last night, I'm sitting on a couch, thinking man.
Ninety percent of the teams in this league, fans in
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this league, gms in this league. Owners in this league
had to have quarterback envy watching these two teams play.
And then Herbert dominates the first half, just like jaw dropping,
like good God, and then Burrow may have been better
in the second half. And then all of a sudden,
we're all tied up, and they go back and the
ping pong and they volleyball it, and they go back
and forth and nobody can win. And eventually it wasn't
(08:45):
Herbert or Burrow, it was justin Herbert. A teammate JK.
Dobbins gave him some help, peeled off the big run
down the left sideline. This is a game the LA Chargers,
the San Diego Chargers, the Carson charge would have lost
the last forty years. And somehow Harbaugh and Herbert great
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coach and quarterback, never wobbled, never wobbled.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know it, and I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
There's a term called charging. And I'm sitting there watching
this and I'm like, no, no, I saw this happen
seven times last year. I don't want to see this.
I'm getting you know it, was nothing against Joe Burrow.
He was incredible. But I thought to myself, they're gonna
lose this thing, aren't they. And they didn't, and they're
not going to because that's what Harbaugh and Herbert you
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know it, you said it for years, got it. You
could just get justin Herbert, the coach and the culture,
if you could just get justin the protection, eh. And
they have and they have and they have and they won.
And here's the coach after.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Guys, just don't you know, didn't flinch, didn't buckle, didn't
even stumble, just just kept right at it and responded.
I've been to this movie a few times, so I
know what it looks like. And yeah, there's no no
nobody we'd rather have. We just feel like we got
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the right guys.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Listen, the Chargers still need They're not quite Buffalo. They
still need to meet another playmaker or two. Offensively, the
Bengals need more defense. But i'm I'm the Chargers are
very close to being exceptional, and maybe lad Maconkey grows,
they'll have to be totally healthy. They're not deep enough
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yet where they can be missing like Buffalo, three offensive
starters and still get almost four hundred yards against the Chiefs,
but that win wasn't about the yards, and it was
about a game they dominated, it evaporated, it was tied.
Burrow was on fire. That game was a loss the
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last forty years, and there was something about resilience, a
little old word moxie, toughness mentally, not just physically, and
they pulled it out that For a Charger fan, it
felt like it's a new day, same roster as last year,
overwhelmingly totally new team, totally new vibe, totally new feeling.
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And I want to say this in a losing effort,
Burrow was insane. I mean, some of those throws Joe
Burrow made were as good a plays as I've seen
all year. That includes mahomes Lamar justin Jalen Hurts. I
mean he was just spitting'. I mean some of these
throws don't even just everything worked, everything clicked. The real
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winner beyond the Chargers last night was fans. That was
a great showcase, an incredible showcase of what a great
quarterback can do to a franchise because Cincinnati had been
cheap forever and the Chargers have been funky forever, and
instead you got a great game. One team dominates one half,
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one dominates the other, and then in the end Harbaugh
Herbert figure out a way to pull out a W.
By the way, you know, I love Lamar Jackson. I'll
get to that in a second. There is something about
the Steelers and Lamar Jackson. It goes sideways every time
they play, and I can't quite figure it out. I'll
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try to guess around the corner. Drew Brees one hour
from now, actually forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
It was.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It was a fun weekend. I had a feeling I'd
said this Friday and blazing five. I didn't love this match.
I thought Cincinnati desperate and that playmaking offense, well, it
was great. It just wasn't great until the second half.
Like Cincinnati was a little bit shell shocked. They couldn't
make stops, they couldn't get the offense going. Cincinnati was
completely out of sorts in the entire first half.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
And didn't we talk about the char Orers last week
as a potential scary team in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's a team.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I know we love the Chiefs and Andy Reid here
at this network, but I like to Chargers team a lot.
They are very dangerous Colin, they match up really well.
To do with all the AFC's JK.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Dobbins's gonna be on our show in the third hour,
going to stop by a game running touchdown.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
All Right, here we go. We do it every Monday
at this time. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,
and there's always plenty of both.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Bo Nicks four touchdowns in the last seven weeks. He
has been the best rookie quarterback in the league without
a doubt. Last seven weeks, thirteen touchdowns, two picks, one
zero six passer rating and sixty nine percent completion percentage.
And this is not a great roster. They're in cap
hell because of the Russell Wilson deal. They're draft pick light.
And I told you, I said, I think this is
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Drew Brees with more mobility. And when Bay I just
said it was a five win team, I'm like, Sean
Payton's worth three wins. Bow Knicks sixty one college starts,
gonna win some games. Bow Knicks looks like right now,
the last seven weeks, the most consistent quarterback in the
entire rookie class. And we told you Peyton would want him.
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He's perfect birth Peyton, and watch out where Colin was raw.
Anthony Richardson got benched, and I said, I don't know
if he's the guy gets hurt. Can't do this, get boy.
He looked great. He looked great throwing the ball down
the field. You still got all the dynamic stuff. In fact,
I would have run him more than they did. But
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I thought he looked excellent. The benching prided him good,
refocused his actuer accuracy. Unlike Aaron Rodgers. He threw the
ball down the field. He didn't make a big time throws.
So you know, sometimes it used to be you could
bench a quarterback twenty years ago and it wasn't the
lead headline story. It just happened. You could do it
in the NFL college high school. Now it's headlines. But
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the benching, I don't know what it was, but I
thought composure. You got all the upside of Anthony richards
and you got the big, strong athlete. You've got excellent timing,
excellent sideline throws. God's wrong on that where Colin was right.
I said, all Justin Herbert needs is Jim Harbaugh. I
remember before they hired Jim Harby said he's going to
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change the franchise overnight, and people are like overrated. No,
you're not. No, Jim Harbaugh's not. Everywhere he goes, he
turns the team around instantly. I mean Justin Herbert this year,
like last night's great example, Justin Herbert's the leading rusher.
He still doesn't have enough weapons. Two touchdowns, no picks,
ninety four passer rating. Justin didn't have a perfect second half.
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You can't. They don't have enough weapons. But Jim Harbaugh
has done exactly what we said he'd do. Stop doubting Harbaugh.
There's an argument he and Jimmy Johnson are the best
coaches ever in terms of college and pro. They win
both instantly. He's great. Was right. The New York Giants
are going to replace Daniel Jones with Tommy DeVito, who,
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by the way, was fun to watch. I never got
Daniel Jones as a number six pick. I did not
get doubling down on the contract. Since he signed that contract.
In the last two years, he's three and thirteen, ten touchdowns,
and thirteen picks. Seems like a nice kid from the South.
Maybe they felt he was going to be the next
Eli Manning, but it's just one of those. He's not
a natural thrower. He's a big, strong kid that moves
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pretty well, but he misses too many easy throws. And
Brian dabol is a really good coach. He knows what
he's doing. He's done everything. He got this kid into
the playoffs. But since he signed that contract, maybe it's
the pressure. He's gotten worse. And from the very beginning,
we just didn't think this was ever going to work
where Colin was raw the minute I called Colorado the
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fake idea of college football. Five minutes later, they've been
on fire. They blew out Utah. Utah doesn't get blown
out a lot. Forty nine to twenty four. Now, I
think shaduor Sanders is absolutely unbelief. But they've caught fire
as a program. They control their destiny. They could win
the Big Twelve. I don't know when I watch them play.
If you have the two best players in college football
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and they maybe do, I think you deserve to be
in the playoff. They could win the Big Twelve. I
bailed on him I said, you know, that's a lot
of sizzle. It's a lot of like Shoulder and Travis Hunter.
But their defensive line creates pressure, they get turnovers. Boy,
was I wrong on Colorado. I was right for a while,
but the minute I gave up, they turned twenty one
and they're for real, not a fake ID where Colin
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was right. Guys, the Jets were never going to be
a playoff team. They don't have that kind of leadership
and Aaron Rodgers. You can blame everybody else. When Robert
Sala got fired, I said, do not listen to New
York media. He's your best coach. You are letting your
best coach out of the building, and you do not
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have an elite coordinator. Ever since Sala left, the offense
is worse, the defense is worse. You don't have to
love Robert Slim, but they fired him five days before
he was gonna face Buffalo for a chance to be
in first place. Memo to bad NFL owners, Never let
your best coach, even if he's not Andy Reid. Never
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let your best coach walk out of the building. This
is the one sport in America, not baseball, hockey, NBA.
We're a coach Sean Payton can be worth four wins.
He'll let the best coach in the staff walk out.
It didn't make any sense then, doesn't make any sense now.
Where Colin was right, Jared Goff remains the most underrated quarterback,
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maybe in the last decade in this league. Folks his
perfect passer ratings, their routine. I know his offensive line
is good. Well, everybody needs a good offensive line. Jared
a former number one pick. I watched him at Cal.
He is I believe he is a better Matt Ryan,
a better arm. He's poised, he's hoff when he gets hit.
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He's never injured, he doesn't miss games. He's obviously a
kid line of scrimmage. But Jared Goff because he doesn't move,
he doesn't have the sizzle. He doesn't run around everybody,
just like eyes overrated folks. He took the Rams to
the super Bowl, and right now the Lions are favored
to get to the super Bowl. It can't always be
everybody else is the reason you're good. At some point,
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you're the reason your teams are always good. Where Colin
was right, well, I predicted Jake, Paul and Tyson would
be a circus, and I like going to the circus
about once a year, and that's what it was. This
is why boxing cannot be a foundational piece of a
sports network and why this network and ESPN and NBC
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have kind of bailed on boxing. But but a lot
of people cared. A lot of people watched. I watched,
my wife watched. This is what boxing can be a
little clicky looking for the headlines. I did think Jake
Paul had a a lot of self awareness. When the
fight was over, he acknowledged nobody wanted to see me
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beat up on Tyson. Mike lost half the blood in
his body in July. This fight should have been in
March or April. He ran out of gas by the
middle of the third round. He lost his legs. Listen,
there was a fifty to fifty chance this was going
to be a dud, and it was for everybody except
Netflix's bottom line. Where Colin was right, Where Colin was
(20:29):
wrong on a Monday, Oh, I haven't talked to Drew
Brees in a couple of weeks. Thirteen time Pro Bowl
are going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Twenty NFL seasons. You know you had one of the
most intense coaches in the history of the league is
Sean Payton. And that's why I love Sean. He's intense.
He don't have to guess what he's thinking. Harbaugh similarly,
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you know, people for years have said he's a little
odd whatever, you know exactly what he thinks. I cannot
believe how he's taken the same Ross or Drew. It's
the same defensive roster. Give me an idea of what
he'd by the way Sean went to New Orleans, they
were the worst team in the league. The next year
they weren't. You've been in these rebuilding things. What do
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you think the secret sauce with Harball.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Was there as something to be said for accountability and consistency.
And to your point, wherever hardball has been it's been
a very similar formula. It's been we are going to
run the football, We're going to play great defense, and
as a result to that, that will put the quarterback
in a lot better situations.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Lack I think some top end playmakers. Yeah, on the
edge with that charger offense. And yet if you're running
the ball effectively, you're.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Going to get some favorable matchups outside.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
You're going to have the ability to get guys open
with play.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Action and other things.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
And then it's just a matter of developing a trust
in chemistry with the guys that you're throwing to and
understanding the formula to winning. Just playing great defense, run
the football, taking care of the football, and you're always
going to be then in a position to win games.
And then if you just become a master of situational football,
which the guys like Belichick and Harball and a few
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others are, then you're always in a position where you're
gonna have a wrinkler two when you really need it
most in order to win these football games. And that's
what you're seeing right now with them.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
One of the things that made your Saints great, similar
to Brady Belichick or Annie Mahomes, is you had an identity.
You guys were play designers. You were efficient, didn't You
didn't when I watched the Saints with Drew Brees, you
didn't leave anything on the editing floor, Like I knew
you were efficient. You know, I knew if you lost,
somebody out played it that it happens. I watch Baltimore,
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I swear every time they face the Steelers of the Chiefs,
they lose their identity. They suddenly get finesse. They passed
too much. I watched it this weekend and suddenly they're
throwing at thirty three, they're running at nineteen. There's no
Derrick Henry when you were in big games, was is
this something that you sometimes had that you would think, Drew, Guys,
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we're getting away from who we are, get back to
who we are. Because Baltimore has really struggled with this
in these games against Kansas City and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah. Look, it's it's to your point. It's stay true
to your identity, understand what wins, and understand just.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Who you are.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And Baltimore is always going to be run the football,
play great defense, yes, and then and then the passing game,
and some of the flash it comes off of that.
But look, I'll say this. You know Pittsburgh doesn't fear Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
I think there's a lot of teams that step on
the field with Baltimore and all of a sudden, you know,
you get Lamar making some plays and you know Derrick
Henry running downhill at you, and I'm sure they get intimidated.
But I think we know by now that the Mike
Tomlin Ben Steelers like they don't fear anybody. They certainly
don't fear anybody in the division. Now, I think they
take pride in the fact that and they play Snashville
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football and that's just what they do.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And so.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think that's what you've seen in these matchups.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Between Pittsburgh and Baltimore is that man Pittsburgh is like,
we're going to hit him the mouth. We know how
to play lamar. I mean, look, he's going to make
his fair share of plays, but let's try to make
him do stuff that's maybe outside of his comfort zone
or not, you know, outside of their identity.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So I want you to go back to your first
couple of years or maybe your first year with and
you'd already had some years in the league. So it's
not perfectly analogous, but there is something that when I
watch this weekend, I watched bow Nicks is I'm sorry,
but last seven games, he's the best rookie quarterback. And
I think we both have great admiration for Sean that
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he gives bowl a couple of laps, he plays into
his athletics straints. But it's more than that. I mean,
bow looked so confident yesterday. What is the secret to
the unlocking of letting you play with confidence but yet
not sloppy you, letting you take risks but they're official.
I feel like bow Knicks is pushing the envelope every week,
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but still he's not throwing picks, he's not making mistakes.
Take me to that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Well, I'll say this, The biggest thing for bow Knicks
is what happened last week against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Even though they lost that game, it certainly was through
no fault of his own right. He put his team
in a position to go win that game in the
end and they got the field bow block. But from
a confidence perspective, you basically went in to Arrowhead and
playing against the gold standard of organizations here in your
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few in the over the last few years, and you
put your team in a position to go win that game.
And so I think coming into this game, I think
his confidence level was just at another level. And look,
if you take you knew it was going to take
a little bit of time this year. Hey, he's a
rookie quarterback. He's going to do rookie stuff at times.
He's still developing and understanding in a comfort level with
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the offense. He's developing a chemistry with all of his receivers. Look,
I don't think the Broncos have like any super elite,
you know, weapons outside. I think they have a bunch
of big receivers that he that bo Nix is now
developing a trust in the confidence with obviously a great
coach and play caller and a guy who also needed
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to get a feeling and understanding for what his quarterback
could do and is capable of, and you know, putting
him in the best positions to succeed, and putting him
in positions where you know, he knows he's going to
be able to limit the mistakes and kind of bring
him along, you know. And so now I think we're
just starting to see you know, hey, we're ten eleven
games into this thing, and this is what you're saying.
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Plus just the development of confidence along the way. Look
that the Denver defense is playing great. I think the
run game is coming along for them, and so all
of those things. But most importantly what happened last week. Man,
you just don't understand you talking about moral victories, right,
like they really should have won that game. Oh yeah,
you'd be put him in a position the game and
should have won the game even though they didn't. I
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know the feeling I would have had as bo Nick's
walking in the locker room. Yes, pissed off because we
just lost the Chiefs. We should have won that game.
Shouldn't be Patrick Mahomes. But in my mind, I'm thinking
to myself, we can beat anybody.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, so I'm watching. I said the Baltimore in Kansas
City was the prize fight we were hoping Netflix would
give us on Friday. I mean Mahomes Alan coaching toughness.
Sometimes I feel like Josh Allen is so talented, Drew
it would be a little hard not to just take
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off and run. He's so big, he can do so
many things, and I think sometimes you're coaching him, not
coaching him down, but you're like use your weapons, you know.
And I watched him yesterday run over the Chiefs to
get to the end zone. I'm like, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a quarterback that can do that. When
you watch Josh Allen, what do you see?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah, He's He's such a unique player in his just
his physical traits, his size, his strength, I mean, his
ability to throw the ball down the feat. You know,
this ability to improvise. I mean you see it time
and time again, you know. And I think the thing
for for him, just as he's continued to mature, is,
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you know, just develop that consistency that developed like that,
that trust, that trust in the plan and in the formula.
I think it's easy for a guy who is so
used to just kind of making place off script too
too quickly at times go off script. And and I
think that's just again the maturation process of a quarterback
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who's coming into his own to really man trust the system,
play within the system, trust the formula.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
And then when there are those.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Opportunities where you are forced to abort the pocket or
man the team needs a play, you then turn it
on and know, Okay, now it's time to go make
the play.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I want to We'll show some video. I said justin
Herbert was great in the first half. Burrow in the
second half, it felt like Michael Jordan against the Blazers.
He was doing stuff like he was in a zone
and all you guy, I mean you you were a
seventy percent completion guy, but did you ever get to
a point in games where drew it all worked? The
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ball felt better. I mean it just I'm watching him
make plays and I'm like, this is like a dominant
high school kid. I mean they charge. I mean if
he's had libbing, ducking under stuff, I'm like, I don't
know if I've seen a better half of football from
a quarterback this year. You got into those moments, you
got into those halfs, and is it a rhythm thing.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Yeah. I think what was most impressive about Burrow last
night is it's not that it was just everything was
coming out on time, in rhythm. You know, ball out
of his hands in two seconds. I knew you're hitting
the first progression majority of time. I mean most of
those plays were him stepping up, yeah, or you know,
navigating receivers, you know the direction that he wanted them
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to go, avoiding you know, tacklers or free hitters in
the pocket like that. That was the part that was
most impressive was there was a lot of.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Stuff that was off script.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
But it wasn't like just running around. I mean, it
was it was like this discipline of like you talk
about pocket presence, man stepping up, avoid one guy, slide
to the right, you know, look at your second progression.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
No, it's not there, step up again. Third progression.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
No, okay, I'm you know, taking off and running right
through the middle of the hashes for fifteen yards or
man by a little bit of time to let like.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was a little bit of everything.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But it was like you talk about sustaining drives in
situations where man he was dead to rights at times
in the pocket somehow, some way, and everything about it
was just so fundamentally sound. Two hands on the ball,
like navigating it away from the defender. It was really
impressive to watch. It was.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I love that play at Jamar Chase where he's in
the pocket and you can see him go, hey, go
over there. He's it's like it's like right basketball, Hey bro,
go over the corner. I'll get your three. That's like,
it's so awesome to watch that. We had those moments.
It's those are the kind of moments I'm thinking a
guy like you miss this football where it's like when
you're in the rhythm, you're talking to your receipt, you're
directing traffic, you're a traffic cop. That's I just I'm
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sitting on the couch thinking this is incredible what I'm watching.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah, it's that flow state. That quote unquote sown. Yeah,
that feels pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, Drew Brees is gonna be a first ballot Hall
of Famer. Love having you on man, Appreciate you seeing
you again.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
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Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, it was one for the Ages last night. We said,
in my entire life, the Chargers have had all sorts
of good players, but they lose games like last night
where you think they should win it. And here's J. K.
Dobbins last night Chargers Radio with a game winner. Hand
off to Dobbins and there goes Dobbins, hot his horse
to the twenty to the fifteen to the ten. End
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of the episode, Touchstone shut duos twenty nine yards and
let's bring in JK. Dobbins live. He is join your show.
There are reports a big smile that you got in
trouble because you didn't sit down. Instead you jumped into
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the end zone. Did you get in trouble? Tell us?
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Uh so, no, Look I'll tell you, I'll tell you
what happened. So before that play Bozeman Bradley Boseman in
the center.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
He comes up to me. He's like, f it, score,
just score, just score. When we get the ball, just
go score. I'm looking at him like I don't know.
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And we had a time out and I went to
the sideline and I asked coach Kyle McDonald, I running
ass coach.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I was like, look, if I get the ball here,
can I score? You want me to score?
Speaker 9 (32:53):
He's like he thinks about it. He's like, ethic, score,
just score, you'll go score. So when I got it,
I was like, I'm taking this stay into the house.
That ain't gonna look it back. And that's what happened
right there. You know, it was a great moment. You know,
I probably I probably should have set it down, but
but my sitner told me to score, and I got
the okay from my coach.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
So I was like, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
By the way, I am old school on that. My
take is when you can light a stadium up, when
you can literally it's so definite, just get into the
end zone and score. You guys work so hard, you
take a beating. Just get into the end zone. If
you lose that game. It's not on you. Sometimes there's
happenstance in Hail Mary. So good for you. But it's interesting.
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You were with a winning organization. So you play high school,
you're a great high school player, you go to Ohio State,
you go to the Ravens and you're like everywhere you go, well,
run this and that. And then you get trade of
the Chargers and they were really bad last year. Was
your first thought?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh, what am I getting myself into? You're going from
Ohio State to the Ravens. Were you worried a little bit?
Is this or did hardball make you feel like, Okay,
this is gonna work? Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
No, I was.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I wasn't worried. That's why I came here.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Actually, I knew that this team had all the talent
in the world, and I know the hardballs there.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'm like part of the family.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
So I knew that the culture that we're going to
bring or that coach Jim was going to bring, and
I wasn't worried one bit.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I knew we were gonna come in this year and we're.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Gonna do some stuff that is going to shock the world,
you know, because so much talent on this team like
just watching him from Afar.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know, even when I was on the Rapiers.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
You you look at the Chargers and you see Derwin James,
you see Justin Herbert, you see Joey Bosa, my fellow
Buck Eye.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
You see all these these these players that are so talented,
and you just wonder, like, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 8 (34:44):
So whenever I got the opportunity, I was like, you
know what, I'm I'm gonna go there because I think
I can go help these guys win and I can
go change the change the organization around.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Justin Herbert. I I love him so he he's quiet,
he's not on social media. For somebody that hangs out
with him every day, explain to our audience what he's like,
because he's about as humble as a great athlete in America.
That's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Is Yeah, he's a he's a special kind of human being.
You know, he's amazing.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Like he seems quiet to you guys, but he's definitely
not quiet. He's a he's a brother.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
He's my brother. Like I love him so much, Like
you could joke around with him.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
He jokes around, he laughs, he but when it's serious,
he's serious.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
You know he has that. You know when he's locked in.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
You know he's a beast when he's locked in too,
So you know it's he's versatile.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I guess you could say that he's versatile. He could
he can kid around with you, or he could be like, hey,
let's let's lock in. You know, so I think that's
he's a special human being.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Explain Jim Harball. Everywhere he goes it could be Stanford, Niners, Michigan.
He not only turns it around, JK. He does it
in six weeks. It's a totally different. I mean, this
team last year was finesse. Now you're as physical as
the Steelers or you're ravens. What is it with Jim?
What is the secret?
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Sauce man, I honestly can't tell you to see yourself
because he's he's unique. He's a lot different than his brother.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
You know, as far as the work that we put in,
it's the same, it's almost the same, it's identical. But
him as a person, he's unique. I've never met anyone
like coach Harbaugh. Coach Jim Harbor, I've never met anyone
like him any And I mean that in an amazing way,
like he's just like I remember in the spring, he's
(36:46):
out there working out with us, like getting it in.
He's serious though, like he's not just bull crapping around.
He's actually seriously like he's trying to get this.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Work in, you know, get better. You know, he's different.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
You know he's genuine and you know some of the
things he says it might come up funny, but it's
so real and it's great, you know, and I love him.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I love him as a coach and as a person.
He's the best the.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's interesting when you don't know the history of the
Chargers as much, but if you live out West, they've
had great players forever. But there's a term called chargering
where they outplay teams and lose. I mean that's literally
a term. Again you're with Baltimore, Ohio State that you
guys win. Is there was a time last night when
it was close, it was tied, and you were so
(37:32):
good early and I thought, oh my god, oh no,
they're not gonna But it was funny. Both defenses showed
up late on the sidelines when you took the ball
over late. Was there a sense, guys, we're going down
Maconkey JK, we're gonna score.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
What was the huddle like, Oh yeah, man, we were confident.
We we know, we knew once we got the ball
it was over. What was it, forty five seconds left
on the clock.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
We knew it was over. We knew it was over.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
We like lad called him Ladarius. I ain't gonna tell
you why, but that's his nickname for me. You know,
he's a beast.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
He comes from a winning place too, Georgia. You know,
he wanted I think he won a national championship. So
we got those type of guys on this roster that
we come from, winning pedigree, you winning culture, you know,
and it showed up last night, and no matter what happened,
you know, when they came back on us, nobody flinched.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Nobody at it or I we were we were locked in.
We knew we were gonna go win the game.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
You know.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
So it's a testament to what what coach Jim has
brought to this team, the culture and everything.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
How special is it for you? You've been hurt back
to back seasons, that you're healthy, you've rehabbed, rehab stinks.
It's awful. Is this like, does this feel like a
really unique, special year for you because the pain and
the injury and the rehab you've gone through.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, this this year is a.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
It's a It's a year granted by the Lord, the
Lord Jesus, you know, because you you.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Think about some of the injuries that I had.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
Most people don't come back from and you know they
don't and if they do, they don't perform at a
high level. You know, Like I tore my so in
like a two year span we're talking about. I tore
my a cl LCL. My hamstring came off. I'm in
this kuss and it took three surgeries just to get back.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
From my knee, you know. And then I come back.
I finally get back healthy, and then in the first.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Game, I blow my achilles, which a lot of people say, oh,
you can't come back from achilles, Like running backs don't
come back from that, they don't come back from knees.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
And so I'm listening to these guys, but I'm really not.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I'm not listening to anyone because I just have so
much faith in Jesus and then my work ethic as well,
you know. So it's a special year for me because
I finally get to show people like, Hey, whenever I'm healthy,
I might be one of the best running backs in
the NFL. You know, give them the volume and all
(40:02):
that stuff. You know, i might be one of those guys,
you know. And I'm finally getting to prove it. I'm
finally getting a chance to prove it. And I'm gonna
keep getting better.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
That's the thing.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
Like, it's just the first year. I tore my achilles
last year. This is my first year back, so I
got lots of room to improve. So it's only gonna
keep getting better.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Only a minute left. I just listen. When you lose
to the Hoosiers this weekend, I don't want you to
get all bummed out. You know what, They're really good.
They're really They score a lot of points. JK. Are
you ready for a potential loss.
Speaker 8 (40:35):
Let me ask you something. Yeah, what are the ranked
opponents that y'all played? Who are the ranked opponents that
we Indiana Hoosiers?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
No, there's none.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Huh, Well, I mean they haven't played. They haven't played
the hardest schedule. I that okay, I admit that it
hasn't been the hardest schedule. Just give me a score.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
So I got I got the buck geys winning by
fourteen points. Man at least.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Okay, thirty four to twenty ish kind of thing, that
kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, yes, sir, all right, well what you
what you think? What's you think?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think it's I think it's I think it's thirty
twenty eight. We're out of time.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Great having you on the show, money.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
All right? JK. Dobbins what a good guy? Talked to
him before the before the thing. He I mean, listen, man,
that guy's story is all guts like there's there's a
lot of guys would have packed it in. He didn't
walk off, won it. Good for him. Hope you enjoyed
today's Show'll see tomorrow live in LA. It's the Hurd.
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