November 19, 2024 • 44 mins
After another loss without QB Dak Prescott, Colin has a bold plan for the Cowboys to get back to contending for Super Bowls. He reacts to NFL breaking news with the Jets firing the general manager Joe Douglas. He talks to Hall of Famer Michael Irvin who shares some surprising info on Deion Sanders' potential move to the NFL
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh here we go on a Tuesday redded two role
live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, The
Herd Hierarchy. The truth is coming out. I'll just give
your heads up. Cowboys aren't in the top ten. I
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want you to be disappointed. An hour from now, Nick Wright,
Michael Urban stops by Jmax. I am a believer. You know,
when somebody goes into bankruptcy, they get protection, government protection.
You can Chapter eleven, Chapter seven. The NFL doesn't do that.
And the Dallas Cowboys right now, as a football roster,
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are bankrupt right and there's no government protection. So I
want to start the show today with this no need
to talk about the game. The cowboy roster and the
franchise right now is essentially bankrupt. So Jerry Jones, in
his life he was a wildcatter. I'll get to that
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in a minute. But when he's taken big swings football
and non football, it's paid off. Remember he bought an
NFL team, I mean wedged in to buy it. Jimmy
Johnson Oles told me the first year and a half
he was paying bills. He took a big swing to
buy that team and it barely qualified. He fires Tom Landry,
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he hires Jimmy Johnson, he brings in Dion Sanders. Big swings,
and Jerry's always been rewarded with those. When Jerry plays
it safe, it doesn't work out. Re signing Dak because
you know, as Dak's here, will you know will be competent,
will be good in the regular season. Or replacing Jason
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Garrett with Mike McCarthy somebody who needed a job and
Jerry could control. Or letting go of Amari Cooper to
give us more cap flexibility. Or let's pass on Dereck
Henry because you know, at eight million dollars it's a
little too much. Every time Jerry plays it safe and comfortable.
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That's all you get. He's preached that resigning Dak. You
really think Dak forget the NFC. You think Dak's gonna
beat Josh Allen, Burrow, Herbert now with Harbaugh, Mahomes and
a super Bowl and hoisted trophy. Bruh, Come on, we
have a grown up talk. Jerry also has to consider
that Jaden Daniels is now in his division twice a year,
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twenty times minimum over the next decade, and Jalen Hurts
with that roster in Philadelphia significantly better. The Lions are
just moving into a three to four year dominant window.
And oh yeah, the Packers in Jordan Love are stacked
with young talent not being paid for several years. Again,
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that's just the NFC. Forget that. In my lifetime, I've
never seen a conference like the AFC where the five
best quarterbacks are all in their prime Burrow, Mahomes, Allen,
Lamar Jackson. So if Dallas after they lose their next game,
they're a three and eight team. After they lose, they
lose their next game at Washington, they face the Giants
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on Thanksgiving. If they lose that game, and I suspect
they will. I like the Giants more, even with Tommy
de Vido. I don't think Dallas wins another game. Caroline
is trying to build a culture, build a staff, build
momentum for next year, and find out if Bryce Young
is the guy they're planning for stuff. Dallas is playing
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for nothing, so let's go back start looking at the
draft order right now. If Dallas doesn't beat the Giants,
so Jacksonville and Tennessee are above them, but they play
each other twice. Cleveland's do talented, did not win a
couple more games. Jets will win another game, Carolina wants to.
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I mean, I'm watching the Patriots. They're giving the Rams
a struggle. They're gonna win more games. They're playing for something.
Rookie coach, rookie quarterback, the Giants and Vegas. If the
Cowboys beat the Giants, this may not matter. But if
the Giants win the Cowboys, in my opinion, it'll be
the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Raiders all vying for
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that number one pick. And I'm here to tell you
if I was the Dallas cowboy, I don't care about
Dak's new contract. I would go get Dion Sanders and
I would sign. I would pick Shadoor Sanders. If I
had to give up Micah Parsons and three firsts, I
would do it. You do not get out of bankruptcy
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putting thirteen dollars a month into your four to oh
one K. You get out of it with big swings.
That's how you get out of it. You start looking
at the draft order. You look at Dallas's schedule. The
only team they play the rest of the year that's
got nothing to play for is the Giants. If the
Giants can beat him, and Dallas is offul at home,
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not much better on the road. They got a shot
to get the number one pick. They got a real shot. Yes,
Dak will be upset if you draft shaduor Sanders. So
what Denver Broncos Russell Wilson was upset? They moved off him.
They're in cap Hell. So what the Denver Broncos are viable?
Why they went and got a great coach, and they
went and got a great rookie quarterback, and all of
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a sudden, Denver's in the playoffs in the better conference.
They may not stay there, but they went from cap
Hell finn roster, missing draft picks, embarrassing franchise. Two is
Sean Payton coach of the Year and bow Nick is
he the best rookie quarterback? They took big swings. Sean
Payton was a big expensive swing fifteen million, eighteen million
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a year. Bow Nick's a quarterback. Play him day one,
big swing. Move off Russell Wilson and pay the contract.
Pittsburgh gets him for a nickel. Pittsburgh wins, but so
does Denver. You're not getting out of this mess. This
team is this roster's bankrupt. Move off Micah, give up
three picks if you don't beat the Giants and you
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got nothing to play for. I'd argue Brian Dabele has
something to play for his job. The weird Giants could
run him out of town. But if you go to
the end of the Troy Aikman era, after Troy Aikman
left and before Tony Romo arrived, what do they do.
They went and got Bill Parcells. That's the first thing.
Let's go get Bill Parcels. And then they found Tony Rommel.
But the difference is Tony Romo was undrafted, so he
was free for five years. Whoever gets this roster here
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are handcuffed with Dak's contract. You know, Dak is a
ninety million dollar cap hit next year. Now they'll restructure it.
But if you go get Shador Sanders, who is a
much better prospect than Dak. And Dak, by the way,
after his first surgery, lost mobility, what's he going to
be after this? Lisa Salter said last night, last night,
eight months? Not back for eight months? What what? Ninety million?
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He's not back in eight months? The last surgery, he
became immobile. He became Kirk Cousins, but he didn't throw
as well as Kirk Cousins. What's he after the second surgery?
So what if he's upset? Russell Wilson was upset. Russell's happy.
Now you move Dak, even if you have to pay
eighty percent of his salary. If you hit in a quarterback.
If Shador Sanders is great, nobody cares. Tom Landry. I
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can't believe you fired Tom Landry. Two years later, nobody cared.
Jimmy Johnson. Can you bring in Dion Sanders? Oh, he's great?
Super Bowl nobody cares. I can't believe Jerry bought an
NFL team. He's a wildcatter. He can barely afford it.
Jimmy Johnson wins, nobody cares. Everybody now joins the avalanche.
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Everybody would crap on you with moving off Dak Prescott,
who cares? God? Joe Rogan goes through a controversy a week.
Who cares? Win games? Take swings? Jerry was a wildcatter.
And I'm sure most of you know what a wildcatter is.
It's a speculation business. You're drilling holes in the earth
and you don't know what's down there. But here's the thing,
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Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders are not speculation. You know
what Dion is as a college coach and as a player,
and as a leader and as a culture builder. And
I'm telling you, Shadur Sanders is a great prospect. He's
the only quarterback in this class I like. But he's
a great prospect. But if you want to sit around
to be average, then make average moves. Don't offend anybody.
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Make that happy. Russell Wilson was pissed when they got
rid of him. He's happy. Now send Dak somewhere, pay
most of his salary. Guy's gonna get paid. I mean,
you saw Dak about three weeks ago in sidelines. Remember
what the cameras caught him saying, this team blanking socks.
Those were Dax words. The camera caught it. Does he
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really want to be there? If tomorrow you found out
Dak went somewhere to an organization that lost a quarterback
to injury, and as a stacked roster, you think he'd
be broken hearted. He's a pro athlete. I wouldn't blame him.
Pro athletes to take care of pro athletes, not worry
about the billionaire owner. But I mean Jaden Daniels, Jalen
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Hurts in division. I mean that five great quarterbacks in
the AFC, all in their prime, all of them. You
think you're winning with this roster, take a huge swing.
If you lose to the Giants on Thanksgiving because you're
losing the Washington you're a ten point dog. Next week,
you have a real shot to end up in that
top two or three. I'd give up Micah. I'd move
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three first round picks if I had to. Of course,
the Giants aren't going to give you that. They don't care,
nor would the Raiders. But the Raiders play hard. The
Raiders play hard, they play hard. They're gonna win another
football game. The next six to seven weeks or whatever
it is. Jerry Jones after last night's predictable loss, Jerry
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is three and seven. If you still hope that the
season could.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Tire us, well, that's ten games and certainly where the
numbers are are coming to us, and certainly we have
to be realistic about how we're playing. We have to
be realistic. But what we're dealing with at quarterback. The
guys that were out there tonight did some good things,
but they made some real mistakes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The Texans scored on the first play of the game, Oh,
ineligible man downfield, which is a dumb rule. But I
mean then a couple of plays later Joe Mixon, who
had three touchdowns. I mean, it's Jerry's history is big swings.
I don't even think Shadeur Sanders is a big swing.
I think trading Micah three first round picks is like ooh,
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but this is not a Trey Lance situation in San Francisco.
Shaudeur can play. Shouldar's dad was the greatest corner ever.
Shadur can play. We got like a lot of games.
Now again, other teams that have given up three first
round picks, you got a guy from a small college
that we haven't seen much video. And Chadur's been crushing
it everywhere he's been. He has a chance to win
a Big twelve. And I gotta tell you something, I
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got no problem with Dion Sanders as an NFL coach.
Did you think he was going to stay in Colorado forever?
It's a great story. It's not a great team. Colorado
when he took it over was the Burke's program in
the country. They don't have big nil money, they don't
have big boosters. And I think he's done a great job,
and I think he loves what he does, and I
think he's elevated the lives of young people. But when
his son leaves, you really see, you really see Dion
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is the future of Colorado football. I can see him
as the future of the Dallas Cowboys. That smells about right,
Jmack swings gotta take big swings.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So close the curtains on the stadium, close the curtains
on the season.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Is that the strategy here? Just shut it down?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The only problem is can you convince an eighty two
year olds who wouldn't spend for Derrick Henry to go
all in and tank for Shadur Sanders, an eighty two
year old. It's one thing at sixty fifty to forty.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
By the way, this idea that if you tank and
get Schadeur Sanders, we won't be viable. Denver got Bo Nicks,
who isn't the prospect Schaduur Sanders? Is Denver's in the
playoffs right now? Okay, this is the NFL. Houston was
the laughing stock of the league. Dimiko Ryan C J.
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Stroud playoff team. This is not baseball where if you
don't have the money you can't compete. It's not the NBA.
If you don't have two stars, you can't compete. It
took Denver years and years and years to build that.
Andrew Luck shows up to the Colts. They went eleven games,
and eleven games and eleven games, didn't win Super Bowls.
They were immediately legit.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Would you consider sitting Shadure for a year behind Dak?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Then yes, that I would go to Dak and say, hey, listen,
we're gonna do this thing. If you want to stick
up for a year, that's great, and Dak would probably
go now, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that.
And by the way, you moved Russell. We've seen this before.
Dead cap money. If you hit on a quarterback gets mitigate.
It does not pull you down. If you get the
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right coach and quarterback in this league. Look at Hardball
right right now. I mean like Hardball's the same roster
with a better right tackle and a receiver they like,
they may be the best team on certain sundays in
the league. This is not a hard league to figure out.
Quarterback coach is right, you're good. You got a star
CD Lamb, you got a couple of young offensive linemen.
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You got to get a running back. Quarterback. By the way,
if Shadur Sanders can run, you don't have to have
a great I mean, do you have to have a
great running back room for years? When Josh Allen broke
into the league, the first four years he was your
running game. Did Cam Newton need a great running back
room the McCaffrey, But did he need one the first
three or four years with a highly mobile quarterback. It's
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nice that Kyler Murray has now Connor now, but for
several years in the league he becomes like quarterback slash
number two running back.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So Thanksgiving Cowboys play every year. I believe they have
the Giants this year.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So DeVito Cooper, rush on Thanksgiving and attack.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I would take an attack Giants because Brian Daball has
something to coach for. You think Brian Dable. You think
Brian Dable's gonna retain his job, Mike Mike McCarthy isn't.
But you think you think Brian Daball in New York,
with that relentless media is gonna keep his job with
six more wins losses.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
As essentially, the Giants and Cowboys are in a race
for scheduc.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think it's I really believe it because I think
if you start looking at teams like Jacksonville, Cleveland, New England,
they're gonna win games. I think the Raiders play too
hard not to win games. And I think Antonio he
is too prideful and too competitive. He's trying to keep
his job. They'll win a game.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, Callahan and Tennessee they're trying to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You will You watched last night Shuston's first play on
the road. Dallas isn't losing. They're getting blown out at home.
You start looking at that board, it's Carolina's plan for something,
Brian Dables coaching for something, Stefanski's coaching for something.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
If the jagg are smarts to start Mac Jones and say, hey, Dallas,
give us Michael Parsons and a number one and we'll
give you the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You know, some kind of package. It's gonna get excited.
This is a good race for sador. I like it,
Race to the bottom.
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, welcome back. All right, breaking news, my friends,
breaking news, more change in New York. The Jets have
now fired their general manager, Joe Douglas. Adam Schefter broke
this story. So now it's Robert Salah, who I they said,
do not fire. He's the best coach on the staff.
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You do not have a strong enough staff to elevate
some brilliant young DC or OC and the Jets have
been absolutely worse both sides of the ball since Robert
sala was fired. I think this is another mistake. Now
he missed on a quarterback, Zach Wilson, who for the record,
I didn't like coming out of college. But let's contextualize
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that there was a two year period because of COVID
where college football quarterbacks a lot of smart guys I
know and trust a lot of sources I've had. It
was wonky quarterbacks were playing BYU was playing a weird schedule,
and I mean, you didn't know what to make you
weren't practicing like normal. So general Jets needed a quarterback.
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They took a big swing. He wasn't the only GM
that liked Dak Wilson.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He did. Multiple guys did. That's his big miss. But
when you look at this Jets roster, best cornerback tenem
in the league, excellent young linebacker Quinnon Williams. I mean defense,
they got players. They're not coached very well, but they
got players. Offensively, they got a star receiver, they got
a really good back, if not a great back. This
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is not a roster that's void of talent. It's not
Carolina or Dallas. There's players here. I think this is
a mistake. I think it's another mistake. And by way,
why would you do it now? Why in the world
would you do it now? The reason you'd fire Sala
early is somebody wanted him out. I wonder who that is.
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Why in the world would you fire a fire a
general manager? Now does Aaron Rodgers think we're idiots like you?
Don't do that? Nobody fires a GM in the middle
of a season, complete retool. I mean it's first of all,
Joe Douglas is an excellent personnel guy. He knows his stuff.
I think this is a mistake. Sala was a mistake
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Joe Douglas, I think is a mistake. Yes, his record's
thirty and sixty four. He missed on a quarterback. But
why in the world would you fire a coach and
a GM sixty percent through a season? Who fires a GM?
Now you know what I think it is. I think
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word got back. There was a story that broke last week.
Remember that story that broke last week after Aaron said
I'd like to come back, and there was a story
about two days later that said, I'm not sure they
want Aaron back. Aaron read that because Aaron's incredibly reactionary,
and somebody had to go because Aaron thought that was
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a leak somewhere in the building, and maybe it was
Joe Douglas. But Aaron said, I want to come back.
And I think it was two days later, at maybe three,
there was a story saying after they lost to somebody,
I forget who did. It wasn't the Colts, it was
the game before and it's like, I don't know if
anybody's gonna want him back. And that story was sore.
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And who's this source saying that Aaron said somebody's gotta go.
He went to Chris Johnson, one of the owners upstairs,
and made it happen. And he'll deny it all day long.
By the way, Adam Schefter pointing out under Douglas, the
Jets had notable draft success Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson,
Breeze Hall in the same draft. However, they never solved
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the quarterback position. Yeah, that's sixty four percent of the league,
you know. I mean, yes, Kansas City and Green Bay
tend to get the quarterback right. Everybody else is how
long has it been for Miami to replace Marino? How
long did it take Denver to replace Elway? You know,
going from Montana to Steve Young just or Manning to
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Andrew Luck congratulations or what green Bay does that? In
even green Bay sits guys for years. This whole league
misses on. I mean, San Francisco's well run, well owned,
smartly GM smartly coach. They gave up three first rounds
for Trey Lance. It happens. It's the hardest position to
draft because it's especially with in the COVID space. Joe
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Douglas is guessing they're playing half their games. They're not practicing.
He's pretty was a Gatorade high school player. He's a
pretty athletic college guy. I think it's another mistake. What
an impulsive, weird organization.
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go the top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
This is not standings. Miami is four and six. I
don't care. They're averaging twenty eight a games since Tua
came back. They lead conversion rate on third down sixty
one percent since Tua came back. He's seventy eight percent
completion percentage since Tua comes back. Coaching Quarterback League. Fourth
easiest schedule remaining. They hammered the Rams, should have beaten Buffalo,
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hammered the Raiders. I don't care. This is not standings.
This is a top ten team. Right now, I wouldn't
want to play him. I wouldn't mind playing him in
January in cold weather, but right now I wouldn't want
to play the Dolphins. Number nine. Vikings only two losses
this year to the Lions in rams, top ten scoring offense,
top five scoring defense. I think Brian Flores deserves another
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head coaching job. Their defense is not the best in
the league. They lead the NFL in takeaways. That's coaching.
They're fooling people, They're fooling quarterbacks. This is a dangerous team.
I think Sam Darnold's reckless nature will eventually hurt them
in January in big games, but right now they're nine,
number eight. I like Arizona. People have been crapping on
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Kyler Murray for years. I think he's great. Cardinals have
not allowed a touchdown in three straight home games. I
think their defensive head coach knows what he's doing. Kyler
this year, for all you people that bang on him,
seventy percent completion percentage, one hundred and one passer rating,
four game winning streak. I love watching Arizona play. I
love of their offensive pieces. I think they need another
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draft to get more complete. Here's another team I would
have no interest playing in the playoffs. Arizona Cardinals eight
number seven Ravens. Listen, they're two and four in games
where they asked Lamar to pass thirty times or more so,
stop doing it every time they face the Chiefs. Every
time they face the Steelers, they lose their identity. Derrick
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Henry disappears in the fourth quarter. They passed thirty three times,
they ran like nineteen.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm telling you I think I think Lamar is Superman,
but clearly Spags and Mike tomlin Or is Kryptonite. Ravens
at seven, number six, I think the Chargers feel a
lot like to me the Chiefs. Really good coaches Jesse Minner,
Jim Harbaugh, Justin Herbert Little, light on weapons. First time
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they allowed twenty points or more this season, four game
winning streak, fewest giveaways, they do not turn the ball over,
twenty one sacks during the four game streak. I'm telling
you they it's like Kansas City. You wish they had
a dominant number one receiver, but the culture, the toughness,
the defensive coordinator, the coach, the Quarterback Chargers at six
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number five. The Steelers beat them. I think if they
played again it would be a coin flip, but I'll
put this. I mean, listen, they held Lamar to under
fifty percent completion rate and Derek Henry and her seventy
rushing yards and Russell Wilson's four to oh was a starter.
Here's what I really like about him. They're five and
zer against teams with a winning record. That's so Mike Tomlin.
Mike Tomlin's off. His teams often played poorly against mediocre teams,
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are bad teams. But if you back Mike Tomlin teams
into a corner against the winning team or they're an underdog,
they're fantastic. Two to oher in games this year without
scoring a touchdown. The rest of the league is two
and eighteen, so they can win multiple ways. Pittsburgh get
five number four. I think Philly's got the best roster
in the league. Lead the NFL in yardage differential seven
to zero when aj Brown plays. Their defense over the
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last six weeks has given up less than two touchdowns.
Nick Sirianni, to me, has stepped back and let his
coordinators coordinate, and that's when he's at his best. I
do think their roster, they're the best roster in terms
of rising young stars, stars in their prime, and old stars,
where I think Detroit doesn't have as many veteran stars.
They're mostly younger going into their prime. But I have
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Philadelphia at four, number three, and the final three teams
are the only teams I think can win the Super Bowl.
Kansas City Listen Mahomes has a lot of picks. He's
got eleven, but here's the thing to remember. They're still
the best third down offense in the league fifty two percent,
and Mahomes has still been unbelievable in the fourth quarter
one ZHO nine point nine passer rating, So I do
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think interceptions do matter in big, big games, and he's
had some ugly ones this year, but they're still to
say they're bad offensively, no they're not. They're great on
third down and great in the fourth quarter, and that's
all I mostly give a rip about. But I'm gonna
put him third this week number two. Buffalo beat him,
and Buffalo beat him without three of their starters. Offensively,
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I think this is the best Buffalo team I've seen
for years and years. They didn't have a good running back.
Now they do. Now they have two good tight ends,
although Kincaid didn't play. I think the young rookie receiver
and Amari Cooper are really nice. Plus they have the
slot from Boise State. I think this is the best
version of Buffalo. I don't listen. Four straight regular season
went against Kansas City. It's this is not like Baltimore
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and Pittsburgh where the Steelers are in Lamar Jackson's head.
That's not this. They beat Kansas City, they just don't
beat him when they want to beat him. In January
number one, listen Detroit's numbers data. I still question them
if they got to a Super Bowl situationally, but I
mean they're the second team to score fifty plus points
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in back to back home game since the seventy merger.
It's like a college team. They get ahead their Randy
Moss Patriots, where they get ahead of so many teams
by seventeen points at the beginning of the second quarter
that it actually makes their defense much more lethal because everybody,
by the mid second quarter you have to pass. So
even though I don't love all their defensive personnel, it's
the best third down defense on any given Sunday in
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the league because everybody in Detroit knows what's coming. It's
the Randy Moss Patriots. Was that the best Patriots defense? No,
but when you lead twenty seven to seven mid second quarter,
there's only one way to get back in the game.
You have to throw, and your edge rushers know it.
There you go the Herd hierarchy again. The three teams
at the top are all trophy hoisting teams. To me,
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I still have reservations on Philly, though I love their roster.
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Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, he's kind of going low profile today. You can
barely see Michael Irvin, who does has to go through
American airports. Yeah, you did not want to be spotted today.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Right right, I'm coming through creeping in hiding. Just like
somebody looked at me and said, are you most from
the long Yard?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I was saying, oh yeah, but that's.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
What I was trying to pull back up Beacon Most.
If you think I'm a prisoner, you just let me
get through here and leave me alone.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You know what? I'm saying I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Just let me get Okay, So I will say this.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Cause that thing's bad right now in Dallas and walking
around usually having a cowboy hat and on all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
None of that all Black is trying to get through. Now.
I get it. I get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So when Jerry has taking big swings, firing Tom Landry,
getting Dion, buying the Cowboys big loan, it's worked. When
he's played it safe. I'm not gonna get Dereck Henry
at the trade line. I'm gonna move a Bari Cooper
so we're more cap flexible. Jerry's a wildcatter in oil
when when he has taken big risks, I believe to
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get out of this mess because right now, Michael, it's
very unique. I'm gonna name quarterbacks. They're all in their prime.
Mahomes Allan Lamar Burrow, Herbert Craig Goff. Okay, you're not
winning right now. I believe you have to if you
go three and fourteen, and I think it's possible. I'm
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hiring Dion and I'm giving away the farm to get
up to Shadeur Sanders. Am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Not at all, not at all, And I like it.
I'm just telling you I like it now. Now Here's
the thing though, here's the thing you saying. If you're
gonna hire Dion and give away the farm to get
up and get your door, I think you're going to
be right there to get your door anyway.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
You see what I mean?
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Just by the way, this season, if you lose the right,
you're not going to have to give up the farm.
You're going to be pick one, two or three. Pick
certainly pick one or two. You know the way you're
playing right now? At home, you'll get You're on an
average that six game losing streak you're on at home.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At home. This is why I'm dressed in black.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
We can't even come up with anything at home prior
to this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
At home we won sixteen in a row.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You just were at the Colorado game. You're close with
Deon Sanders, right.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I spent Friday with Jerry, Saturday with Dion, and Sunday
praying for the.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Let me just be real with you.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Do you think Dion and I think he loves college,
But if his son and Travis Hunter a gone, do
you think Dion would listen to Jerry Jones call if
he offered him the job.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I think, Dion, if if Jerry and the Cowboys up
there around one and gonna get your door, if you
want somebody to follow footsteps, you got your door.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You get Dion. I absolutely believe that happens because you do.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I Dion understands how important it is to have that
relationship with your quarterback. Yes, more important anything else in
the world on the next level is that relationship with
your quarterback. If you don't believe me, ask the New
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York Jackson, the people that are disappearing over there. You
see what I'm saying. So so that and Dion understands
that point. Dion understands that way.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What do you make of that Jets they fired their
GM today. What do you make of Aaron and the Jets?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
You know, the Jets, I said, messed up when they
tried to make Aaron Rodgers the main things instead of
keeping their main thing as the main thing. They were
primarily a running game, run team to play great defense,
that needed some guidance at quarterback, and that their fight
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was to find the quarterback that you come in and
make the few plays that they need. Throw the ball
twenty five times a game, not this fifty five times.
You know, the first six weeks of the season they
were in the top three. Now that they realized they
messed up, so last four weeks they tried to come back,
you know, come back from all the throwing, but it's
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too late. They allowed Aaron Rodgers to pull them into
his fight of trying to prove to everybody, to woke
crowd in Green Bay, that I still have it, instead
of Aaron Rodgers being added to their fight, which is
a run game and defense right right, and they let
Aaron Rodgers bounce around their identity. Now, you take a
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super Bowl winning All Pro quarterback and you said, well,
we don't have one of those who're just listening to
what he says, and you got disaster. You take a
super Bowl winning All Pro quarterback that has stumbled, and
you give him to the Pittsburgh Steelers, where there's a
coach who has already set the order. We already got
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our identity. We're running the ball and playing defense, and Russell,
can you make a.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Few plays for us? That's the difference. That's the difference.
Join his stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Aaron Rodgers made the gest join his stuff, and now
they are in disaster.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's a really good point that basically Mike Tomlins said,
because I've argued forever people think Brady was the savior
of Tampa. But as Tom knew, that was a loaded roster.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
But you know what, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It came to ls. They've been to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
That's that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
When you so when Russell went to Denver, he was
viewed as the savior Aaron to the Jets, it doesn't exist.
There is no such thing unless you're Patrick Mahomes or
Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
To me this say you're saying.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
What you're saying is nobody's giving up the Savior. Nobody's
giving up a savior. By the time you get him,
he's no longer a savior, you know what I mean.
He's a disciple of the Savior, but he's no savior himself,
you see what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So you like the Steelers what they've done with man.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I love what the Steelers have done.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
And and and the move that Mike made at six
and two going you know, when the kid.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Was justin fields, they moved off to I mean four and.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Two, move off from for justin field and still go
and get what he's.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Got by the way, Michael, we have a winning record,
and move off the popular kid that everybody likes.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Oh, because you know, if it didn't work, and it
doesn't work, they gonna they gonna chop.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
You up and chew you and chew you out right
right right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
And and and it worked in an extraordinary way. And
I loved how he did the other day. And honesty,
I love the kid, and I'm praying for the kid.
But Mike Tumblin, thank god they won that game the
other day, or we would have been back over on
the kid again, justin fields like you see why Mike
Tumblin made the change. Even that little one yard slide early,
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that early one yard.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Slide could have coast that game. Yep, could have.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Coast that game. And that's what Mike is saying. I
just want the guy to not make the mistake that's
going to cost me a game. Just hold on to
the ball and not make the mistakes is going to
cost me a game. Luckily, they were able to get
that first down and win that game.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, let's talk about the Lions. So you played on
a cowboy team when I was a kid growing up,
The Steelers in nineteen seventy five had about nine Hall
of Famers. The Cowboy team you were on had four
or five six Hall of Famers. You start looking at Piney,
Seuel Honor on Saint Brown, Jared Goff when he's healthy,
a the largest and the branch, the safety. You start
looking at that team Detroit. You know you've been on
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one of those. Right when you go into the game
and it's like we'll be playing with a lead every Sunday.
Do you think the giant are the Lions? Are they
peaking too early? Are you concerned that they're not being
pushed back a little? They're rolling over teams now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Right right now.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Let me tell you what when I look at the Lions,
I said, because I said this, you know last year
on Undisputed. Now when I saw him, I said, man,
it's just frying. It reminds me a lot of our
young team because young talent everywhere.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
And it's not just they got young talent. They love playing.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Football together like we love playing football together, you know
when we were coming up, the early Cowboys ninety Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
The difference, the difference here is Jared Golf with Jered
Golf are we.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Going to have.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
There's a Jared Goff that let go from right out
here in LA because they said you can't win the
big game.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, a strictly pocket guy.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Right right right and and and then they won the
big game without him.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
So that's the stain on him on him.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Now he's playing with a chip on his shoulder, Jared
goffars and and he's gonna need that chip so he
can remove that stain.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You see what I mean. He's gonna need that chip
to remove that stain. Now what, Jered.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Golf, do you get that team I'm talking about that
we were with the Cowboys. We ran off seven straight
victories with Steve Burline a quarterback one time. Remember Steve
Burline the quarterback we ran off, We ran through everybody
we got in the playoffs and we lost to a
Detroit team in the playoffs. Steve Burline had great talent,
great talent, and we would have won a lot of
games with Steve Burrline. And we got some playoff games
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with Steve Burline, but we never would have become a
dynasty with him. Troy Aikman took us to the dynasty
level when we got him back. Now, Jared golf has
the range to be Steve Berline or Troy Aikman. If
he stays Steve Berlin, they'll continue to do this and
just get in the playoffs and never get there. But
if he turns back into the number one pick of
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the draft and become Troyman playing with it himself like
Troy played within himself, then this Detroit team can do
so many things that ninety Cowboys team did.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, So I want to get into this whole Jake
Paul Tyson thing. So you may the thing we talked
about before we went on the air, Can you talk
about that or no?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
But Jake Paul, Yeah, yeah, ok yeah. I was saying, yeah,
I saw somebody out, Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, although many are proven true.
So that's okay.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
But but you're an analyst.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
You're an analyst, that's right, and any analyst has the
answer who, what, where?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
When? Why? Who?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I wondered something during the fight and what did you
say to me before you went on the air today?
On a contract?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I said, I I said I was looking for Mike
Tyson because he got me too. When he walked in
that ring. I saw, I saw death in his eyes.
I said, oh my god, I said, I.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
See some scared.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I was scared. That don't look like nobody coming to play, right.
And I was looking for that patented one. But one
in the body upper cut?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, so was body that was his you know, his
left hook and his upper custs or the drop shots.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
It is it you see and when you when he
when he hits that bad it's.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Boom boom boom, and you I want to see that.
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So why didn't we get it?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
We didn't get it. We're not a one. And then
I heard somebody.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
I saw somebody read read somewhere with somebody said it
was in the contract.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
No upper cuts, no upper cut. They they take you seriously.
I kind of buy this.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Yeah, they had it in the country. Come on, guys,
why wouldn't Mike throw an upper cut?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
If Nolan Ryan pitched in a game at sixty and
never threw a fastball right, and you'd be.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Like, sums up, sums up, what's going on? Mike?
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I had good knees and you still play football and
didn't run a slant route?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Some fix, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So I watched what to do now. I know Mike
had a blood transfusion. He almost died July twentieth, and
you and I said the fight should have been in March.
His body was still recovering. He ran out of gas
third round. But if you watched Tyson's career, the upper
cut it was the kill shot. It was, and he
didn't throw one.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
And once he hits you in that stomach and you
just lean a little bit, you set yourself up for
that upper cut and here it comes.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay. The other thing is Jake Paul by about the
fifth round, had a chance. And I wondered, after what
you said, did Jake Paul say, listen, I signed a contract.
He can't throw an upper cut. I'm not gonna humiliate him,
and I agree to a deal that Mike can't throw,
he can't hit cleanup, he can't bring the bomb right.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
And I liked it he did that. I like that.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
He's that he didn't go kill on kill Mike. And
which is which is which is funny because Jake gets
a lot of he gets a lot of hate and
pushback on you know, and I like the guy. I
like my I mentioned it on the broadcast. If you
got to honor and respect the man he works hard.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That that hacks the whole game, like he has hacked
the whole game.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
They did it his way and listening in your way
and still got right where he wanted to be. Deon
Sanders is doing that in football as a head coach.
He's doing the same thing. He's hacked the system. He said,
I'm doing this my way, and you guys got to
respect that. I mean, I think he's a brilliant guy
and I and he got he got kudos for me
for honoring Mike Tyson with that, with that twenty million dollars,
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the gift package and pulling up in the fifth round.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I want to go back to the Shadeur sanders don thing.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
People will push back and say, well, what are you
going to do with Dak? In My take is Dak
will have a market, somebody will pay some of the contract.
And the truth is Denver has shown us even with
fifty million of dead cap money, Russell Wilson, if you
get the coach and the quarterback right, you can still
be good because you're not paying Bonnicks for five years,
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so you can you can handle that dead cat. And
somebody would comment Dak would have a market.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, Dak would have a market. There's no doubt. There's
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You got to Dak before the draft pick and say
we're gonna take you door. Where do you want to go?
And we'll try to make it. We'll be good, we'll
be good suitors. We'll go find the suitors. You pick
the team you want, we'll try to get it there. Yeah,
don't make it public. So we have leverage.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
And I love Dak, and Dak's given us a lot
of wins. And I'm sitting here listening to these scenarios
and I say to myself, Wow, you know I would
hate to see that go. I love that.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
But right now, when you.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
Look at the Cowboys as they are currently constructed, you
gotta say, there's.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Something that has to be done here.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Sure, you can't stay, you can't continue to lose games,
eat at home thirty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Clip.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
You're losing these games, thirty eight at thirteen in front
of your home, crawd.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
It's just getting bad.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
So something has to be shaken up and be done,
and Jerry has to get it done.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
People don't understand how hard Michael works. So the last
three days where have you been?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Well, I've been. I was well. First I did the game.
I mean to fight in Dallas Friday, and then Friday
now because it went to Colorado Saturday and came back
Sunday and went to the Monday night game and then
flew here early Tuesday morning.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
And you don't do the private I'll be here with you.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
No, I don't do private planes. I don't well, I'm
so I don't know. I fly every day and I'm
still scared of planes.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I don't know. I don't know people.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I'm telling you, man, When I get on the airplane
and we hit turbinans, oh my god, man, my anxieties
get so bad because I can't control it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
I'm not even so that person be next to me.
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
They be so happy to be next to me, right
I see them. They get the phone and they take
them out and they're doing this right here. They trying
to show people that's mean, like it'll take it.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
And then we hit turbles. I crab.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
You know, my head is a pretty stroke. I ground
so tight, like they ain't so happy to sit next
to me anymore.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
They're like, how about a gummy here.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Do you ever take a gummy?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, I don't. I appreciate you giving me the chance
to tell people that on TV. Yeah to the dummy.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Yeah, it didn't work quite like I wanted it too.
I was I was still grabbing at everything, y'all. Never
any turbulist. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Man, It's some uncertainty of what's happening in your life,
and and.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I live on it almost every day. I'm flying every day.
I can't get I don't know why I have this
fear of me. My friends, right, they send a plane
sometimes they want they come. Send the plane, be the
nicest plane of g five g I'll leave it right
in the hangar and go get me. Playing themself towards
the airlines and tell them come pick me up at
the airport.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Man, you know why you probably to fly.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
To Washing That's why you relate and you've endured you're
one of the people.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
What are the people?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You're walking through those crappy airports like the rest of them.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Yeah, just like the rest.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
So I can get the feel of the people, so
I can speak with the people. You can't get the
feel of the people without speaking with the people.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
That's how you can communicate.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Okay, and you broke news today. You do believe and
I do too, that if shaud Or went to the Cowboys,
Dion would accept the job.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
I believe one hundred percent. And I can tell you
good sources.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And told me that.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
Great sources have told me that.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
That's all I can say like that without violating anything else.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
The play You don't love I love you too, but
I love I love you here with you boy. All Right,
we're gonna make this a regular. Next year, we're gonna
make it a regular.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh here we go on a Tuesday redded two role
live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. One hour from now, The
Herd Hierarchy. The truth is coming out. I'll just give
your heads up. Cowboys aren't in the top ten. I
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want you to be disappointed. An hour from now, Nick Wright,
Michael Urban stops by Jmax. I am a believer. You know,
when somebody goes into bankruptcy, they get protection, government protection.
You can Chapter eleven, Chapter seven. The NFL doesn't do that.
And the Dallas Cowboys right now, as a football roster,
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are bankrupt right and there's no government protection. So I
want to start the show today with this no need
to talk about the game. The cowboy roster and the
franchise right now is essentially bankrupt. So Jerry Jones, in
his life he was a wildcatter. I'll get to that
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in a minute. But when he's taken big swings football
and non football, it's paid off. Remember he bought an
NFL team, I mean wedged in to buy it. Jimmy
Johnson Oles told me the first year and a half
he was paying bills. He took a big swing to
buy that team and it barely qualified. He fires Tom Landry,
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he hires Jimmy Johnson, he brings in Dion Sanders. Big swings,
and Jerry's always been rewarded with those. When Jerry plays
it safe, it doesn't work out. Re signing Dak because
you know, as Dak's here, will you know will be competent,
will be good in the regular season. Or replacing Jason
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Garrett with Mike McCarthy somebody who needed a job and
Jerry could control. Or letting go of Amari Cooper to
give us more cap flexibility. Or let's pass on Dereck
Henry because you know, at eight million dollars it's a
little too much. Every time Jerry plays it safe and comfortable.
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That's all you get. He's preached that resigning Dak. You
really think Dak forget the NFC. You think Dak's gonna
beat Josh Allen, Burrow, Herbert now with Harbaugh, Mahomes and
a super Bowl and hoisted trophy. Bruh, Come on, we
have a grown up talk. Jerry also has to consider
that Jaden Daniels is now in his division twice a year,
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twenty times minimum over the next decade, and Jalen Hurts
with that roster in Philadelphia significantly better. The Lions are
just moving into a three to four year dominant window.
And oh yeah, the Packers in Jordan Love are stacked
with young talent not being paid for several years. Again,
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that's just the NFC. Forget that. In my lifetime, I've
never seen a conference like the AFC where the five
best quarterbacks are all in their prime Burrow, Mahomes, Allen,
Lamar Jackson. So if Dallas after they lose their next game,
they're a three and eight team. After they lose, they
lose their next game at Washington, they face the Giants
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on Thanksgiving. If they lose that game, and I suspect
they will. I like the Giants more, even with Tommy
de Vido. I don't think Dallas wins another game. Caroline
is trying to build a culture, build a staff, build
momentum for next year, and find out if Bryce Young
is the guy they're planning for stuff. Dallas is playing
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for nothing, so let's go back start looking at the
draft order right now. If Dallas doesn't beat the Giants,
so Jacksonville and Tennessee are above them, but they play
each other twice. Cleveland's do talented, did not win a
couple more games. Jets will win another game, Carolina wants to.
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I mean, I'm watching the Patriots. They're giving the Rams
a struggle. They're gonna win more games. They're playing for something.
Rookie coach, rookie quarterback, the Giants and Vegas. If the
Cowboys beat the Giants, this may not matter. But if
the Giants win the Cowboys, in my opinion, it'll be
the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Raiders all vying for
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that number one pick. And I'm here to tell you
if I was the Dallas cowboy, I don't care about
Dak's new contract. I would go get Dion Sanders and
I would sign. I would pick Shadoor Sanders. If I
had to give up Micah Parsons and three firsts, I
would do it. You do not get out of bankruptcy
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putting thirteen dollars a month into your four to oh
one K. You get out of it with big swings.
That's how you get out of it. You start looking
at the draft order. You look at Dallas's schedule. The
only team they play the rest of the year that's
got nothing to play for is the Giants. If the
Giants can beat him, and Dallas is offul at home,
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not much better on the road. They got a shot
to get the number one pick. They got a real shot. Yes,
Dak will be upset if you draft shaduor Sanders. So
what Denver Broncos Russell Wilson was upset? They moved off him.
They're in cap Hell. So what the Denver Broncos are viable?
Why they went and got a great coach, and they
went and got a great rookie quarterback, and all of
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a sudden, Denver's in the playoffs in the better conference.
They may not stay there, but they went from cap
Hell finn roster, missing draft picks, embarrassing franchise. Two is
Sean Payton coach of the Year and bow Nick is
he the best rookie quarterback? They took big swings. Sean
Payton was a big expensive swing fifteen million, eighteen million
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a year. Bow Nick's a quarterback. Play him day one,
big swing. Move off Russell Wilson and pay the contract.
Pittsburgh gets him for a nickel. Pittsburgh wins, but so
does Denver. You're not getting out of this mess. This
team is this roster's bankrupt. Move off Micah, give up
three picks if you don't beat the Giants and you
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got nothing to play for. I'd argue Brian Dabele has
something to play for his job. The weird Giants could
run him out of town. But if you go to
the end of the Troy Aikman era, after Troy Aikman
left and before Tony Romo arrived, what do they do.
They went and got Bill Parcells. That's the first thing.
Let's go get Bill Parcels. And then they found Tony Rommel.
But the difference is Tony Romo was undrafted, so he
was free for five years. Whoever gets this roster here
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are handcuffed with Dak's contract. You know, Dak is a
ninety million dollar cap hit next year. Now they'll restructure it.
But if you go get Shador Sanders, who is a
much better prospect than Dak. And Dak, by the way,
after his first surgery, lost mobility, what's he going to
be after this? Lisa Salter said last night, last night,
eight months? Not back for eight months? What what? Ninety million?
(07:30):
He's not back in eight months? The last surgery, he
became immobile. He became Kirk Cousins, but he didn't throw
as well as Kirk Cousins. What's he after the second surgery?
So what if he's upset? Russell Wilson was upset. Russell's happy.
Now you move Dak, even if you have to pay
eighty percent of his salary. If you hit in a quarterback.
If Shador Sanders is great, nobody cares. Tom Landry. I
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can't believe you fired Tom Landry. Two years later, nobody cared.
Jimmy Johnson. Can you bring in Dion Sanders? Oh, he's great?
Super Bowl nobody cares. I can't believe Jerry bought an
NFL team. He's a wildcatter. He can barely afford it.
Jimmy Johnson wins, nobody cares. Everybody now joins the avalanche.
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Everybody would crap on you with moving off Dak Prescott,
who cares? God? Joe Rogan goes through a controversy a week.
Who cares? Win games? Take swings? Jerry was a wildcatter.
And I'm sure most of you know what a wildcatter is.
It's a speculation business. You're drilling holes in the earth
and you don't know what's down there. But here's the thing,
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Shador Sanders and Dion Sanders are not speculation. You know
what Dion is as a college coach and as a player,
and as a leader and as a culture builder. And
I'm telling you, Shadur Sanders is a great prospect. He's
the only quarterback in this class I like. But he's
a great prospect. But if you want to sit around
to be average, then make average moves. Don't offend anybody.
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Make that happy. Russell Wilson was pissed when they got
rid of him. He's happy. Now send Dak somewhere, pay
most of his salary. Guy's gonna get paid. I mean,
you saw Dak about three weeks ago in sidelines. Remember
what the cameras caught him saying, this team blanking socks.
Those were Dax words. The camera caught it. Does he
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really want to be there? If tomorrow you found out
Dak went somewhere to an organization that lost a quarterback
to injury, and as a stacked roster, you think he'd
be broken hearted. He's a pro athlete. I wouldn't blame him.
Pro athletes to take care of pro athletes, not worry
about the billionaire owner. But I mean Jaden Daniels, Jalen
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Hurts in division. I mean that five great quarterbacks in
the AFC, all in their prime, all of them. You
think you're winning with this roster, take a huge swing.
If you lose to the Giants on Thanksgiving because you're
losing the Washington you're a ten point dog. Next week,
you have a real shot to end up in that
top two or three. I'd give up Micah. I'd move
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three first round picks if I had to. Of course,
the Giants aren't going to give you that. They don't care,
nor would the Raiders. But the Raiders play hard. The
Raiders play hard, they play hard. They're gonna win another
football game. The next six to seven weeks or whatever
it is. Jerry Jones after last night's predictable loss, Jerry
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is three and seven. If you still hope that the
season could.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Tire us, well, that's ten games and certainly where the
numbers are are coming to us, and certainly we have
to be realistic about how we're playing. We have to
be realistic. But what we're dealing with at quarterback. The
guys that were out there tonight did some good things,
but they made some real mistakes.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The Texans scored on the first play of the game, Oh,
ineligible man downfield, which is a dumb rule. But I
mean then a couple of plays later Joe Mixon, who
had three touchdowns. I mean, it's Jerry's history is big swings.
I don't even think Shadeur Sanders is a big swing.
I think trading Micah three first round picks is like ooh,
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but this is not a Trey Lance situation in San Francisco.
Shaudeur can play. Shouldar's dad was the greatest corner ever.
Shadur can play. We got like a lot of games.
Now again, other teams that have given up three first
round picks, you got a guy from a small college
that we haven't seen much video. And Chadur's been crushing
it everywhere he's been. He has a chance to win
a Big twelve. And I gotta tell you something, I
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got no problem with Dion Sanders as an NFL coach.
Did you think he was going to stay in Colorado forever?
It's a great story. It's not a great team. Colorado
when he took it over was the Burke's program in
the country. They don't have big nil money, they don't
have big boosters. And I think he's done a great job,
and I think he loves what he does, and I
think he's elevated the lives of young people. But when
his son leaves, you really see, you really see Dion
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is the future of Colorado football. I can see him
as the future of the Dallas Cowboys. That smells about right,
Jmack swings gotta take big swings.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So close the curtains on the stadium, close the curtains
on the season.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Is that the strategy here? Just shut it down?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, I kind of like that.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
The only problem is can you convince an eighty two
year olds who wouldn't spend for Derrick Henry to go
all in and tank for Shadur Sanders, an eighty two
year old. It's one thing at sixty fifty to forty.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
By the way, this idea that if you tank and
get Schadeur Sanders, we won't be viable. Denver got Bo Nicks,
who isn't the prospect Schaduur Sanders? Is Denver's in the
playoffs right now? Okay, this is the NFL. Houston was
the laughing stock of the league. Dimiko Ryan C J.
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Stroud playoff team. This is not baseball where if you
don't have the money you can't compete. It's not the NBA.
If you don't have two stars, you can't compete. It
took Denver years and years and years to build that.
Andrew Luck shows up to the Colts. They went eleven games,
and eleven games and eleven games, didn't win Super Bowls.
They were immediately legit.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Would you consider sitting Shadure for a year behind Dak?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Then yes, that I would go to Dak and say, hey, listen,
we're gonna do this thing. If you want to stick
up for a year, that's great, and Dak would probably
go now, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that.
And by the way, you moved Russell. We've seen this before.
Dead cap money. If you hit on a quarterback gets mitigate.
It does not pull you down. If you get the
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right coach and quarterback in this league. Look at Hardball
right right now. I mean like Hardball's the same roster
with a better right tackle and a receiver they like,
they may be the best team on certain sundays in
the league. This is not a hard league to figure out.
Quarterback coach is right, you're good. You got a star
CD Lamb, you got a couple of young offensive linemen.
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You got to get a running back. Quarterback. By the way,
if Shadur Sanders can run, you don't have to have
a great I mean, do you have to have a
great running back room for years? When Josh Allen broke
into the league, the first four years he was your
running game. Did Cam Newton need a great running back
room the McCaffrey, But did he need one the first
three or four years with a highly mobile quarterback. It's
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nice that Kyler Murray has now Connor now, but for
several years in the league he becomes like quarterback slash
number two running back.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
So Thanksgiving Cowboys play every year. I believe they have
the Giants this year.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So DeVito Cooper, rush on Thanksgiving and attack.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I would take an attack Giants because Brian Daball has
something to coach for. You think Brian Dable. You think
Brian Dable's gonna retain his job, Mike Mike McCarthy isn't.
But you think you think Brian Daball in New York,
with that relentless media is gonna keep his job with
six more wins losses.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
As essentially, the Giants and Cowboys are in a race
for scheduc.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think it's I really believe it because I think
if you start looking at teams like Jacksonville, Cleveland, New England,
they're gonna win games. I think the Raiders play too
hard not to win games. And I think Antonio he
is too prideful and too competitive. He's trying to keep
his job. They'll win a game.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yeah, Callahan and Tennessee they're trying to.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
You will You watched last night Shuston's first play on
the road. Dallas isn't losing. They're getting blown out at home.
You start looking at that board, it's Carolina's plan for something,
Brian Dables coaching for something, Stefanski's coaching for something.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
If the jagg are smarts to start Mac Jones and say, hey, Dallas,
give us Michael Parsons and a number one and we'll
give you the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You know, some kind of package. It's gonna get excited.
This is a good race for sador. I like it,
Race to the bottom.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
All right, welcome back. All right, breaking news, my friends,
breaking news, more change in New York. The Jets have
now fired their general manager, Joe Douglas. Adam Schefter broke
this story. So now it's Robert Salah, who I they said,
do not fire. He's the best coach on the staff.
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You do not have a strong enough staff to elevate
some brilliant young DC or OC and the Jets have
been absolutely worse both sides of the ball since Robert
sala was fired. I think this is another mistake. Now
he missed on a quarterback, Zach Wilson, who for the record,
I didn't like coming out of college. But let's contextualize
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that there was a two year period because of COVID
where college football quarterbacks a lot of smart guys I
know and trust a lot of sources I've had. It
was wonky quarterbacks were playing BYU was playing a weird schedule,
and I mean, you didn't know what to make you
weren't practicing like normal. So general Jets needed a quarterback.
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They took a big swing. He wasn't the only GM
that liked Dak Wilson.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
He did. Multiple guys did. That's his big miss. But
when you look at this Jets roster, best cornerback tenem
in the league, excellent young linebacker Quinnon Williams. I mean defense,
they got players. They're not coached very well, but they
got players. Offensively, they got a star receiver, they got
a really good back, if not a great back. This
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is not a roster that's void of talent. It's not
Carolina or Dallas. There's players here. I think this is
a mistake. I think it's another mistake. And by way,
why would you do it now? Why in the world
would you do it now? The reason you'd fire Sala
early is somebody wanted him out. I wonder who that is.
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Why in the world would you fire a fire a
general manager? Now does Aaron Rodgers think we're idiots like you?
Don't do that? Nobody fires a GM in the middle
of a season, complete retool. I mean it's first of all,
Joe Douglas is an excellent personnel guy. He knows his stuff.
I think this is a mistake. Sala was a mistake
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Joe Douglas, I think is a mistake. Yes, his record's
thirty and sixty four. He missed on a quarterback. But
why in the world would you fire a coach and
a GM sixty percent through a season? Who fires a GM?
Now you know what I think it is. I think
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word got back. There was a story that broke last week.
Remember that story that broke last week after Aaron said
I'd like to come back, and there was a story
about two days later that said, I'm not sure they
want Aaron back. Aaron read that because Aaron's incredibly reactionary,
and somebody had to go because Aaron thought that was
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a leak somewhere in the building, and maybe it was
Joe Douglas. But Aaron said, I want to come back.
And I think it was two days later, at maybe three,
there was a story saying after they lost to somebody,
I forget who did. It wasn't the Colts, it was
the game before and it's like, I don't know if
anybody's gonna want him back. And that story was sore.
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And who's this source saying that Aaron said somebody's gotta go.
He went to Chris Johnson, one of the owners upstairs,
and made it happen. And he'll deny it all day long.
By the way, Adam Schefter pointing out under Douglas, the
Jets had notable draft success Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson,
Breeze Hall in the same draft. However, they never solved
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the quarterback position. Yeah, that's sixty four percent of the league,
you know. I mean, yes, Kansas City and Green Bay
tend to get the quarterback right. Everybody else is how
long has it been for Miami to replace Marino? How
long did it take Denver to replace Elway? You know,
going from Montana to Steve Young just or Manning to
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Andrew Luck congratulations or what green Bay does that? In
even green Bay sits guys for years. This whole league
misses on. I mean, San Francisco's well run, well owned,
smartly GM smartly coach. They gave up three first rounds
for Trey Lance. It happens. It's the hardest position to
draft because it's especially with in the COVID space. Joe
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Douglas is guessing they're playing half their games. They're not practicing.
He's pretty was a Gatorade high school player. He's a
pretty athletic college guy. I think it's another mistake. What
an impulsive, weird organization.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
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in noon eastern non am Pacific heard Hierarchy time. Now
go the top ten NFL teams according to College number ten.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
This is not standings. Miami is four and six. I
don't care. They're averaging twenty eight a games since Tua
came back. They lead conversion rate on third down sixty
one percent since Tua came back. He's seventy eight percent
completion percentage since Tua comes back. Coaching Quarterback League. Fourth
easiest schedule remaining. They hammered the Rams, should have beaten Buffalo,
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hammered the Raiders. I don't care. This is not standings.
This is a top ten team. Right now, I wouldn't
want to play him. I wouldn't mind playing him in
January in cold weather, but right now I wouldn't want
to play the Dolphins. Number nine. Vikings only two losses
this year to the Lions in rams, top ten scoring offense,
top five scoring defense. I think Brian Flores deserves another
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head coaching job. Their defense is not the best in
the league. They lead the NFL in takeaways. That's coaching.
They're fooling people, They're fooling quarterbacks. This is a dangerous team.
I think Sam Darnold's reckless nature will eventually hurt them
in January in big games, but right now they're nine,
number eight. I like Arizona. People have been crapping on
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Kyler Murray for years. I think he's great. Cardinals have
not allowed a touchdown in three straight home games. I
think their defensive head coach knows what he's doing. Kyler
this year, for all you people that bang on him,
seventy percent completion percentage, one hundred and one passer rating,
four game winning streak. I love watching Arizona play. I
love of their offensive pieces. I think they need another
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draft to get more complete. Here's another team I would
have no interest playing in the playoffs. Arizona Cardinals eight
number seven Ravens. Listen, they're two and four in games
where they asked Lamar to pass thirty times or more so,
stop doing it every time they face the Chiefs. Every
time they face the Steelers, they lose their identity. Derrick
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Henry disappears in the fourth quarter. They passed thirty three times,
they ran like nineteen.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm telling you I think I think Lamar is Superman,
but clearly Spags and Mike tomlin Or is Kryptonite. Ravens
at seven, number six, I think the Chargers feel a
lot like to me the Chiefs. Really good coaches Jesse Minner,
Jim Harbaugh, Justin Herbert Little, light on weapons. First time
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they allowed twenty points or more this season, four game
winning streak, fewest giveaways, they do not turn the ball over,
twenty one sacks during the four game streak. I'm telling
you they it's like Kansas City. You wish they had
a dominant number one receiver, but the culture, the toughness,
the defensive coordinator, the coach, the Quarterback Chargers at six
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number five. The Steelers beat them. I think if they
played again it would be a coin flip, but I'll
put this. I mean, listen, they held Lamar to under
fifty percent completion rate and Derek Henry and her seventy
rushing yards and Russell Wilson's four to oh was a starter.
Here's what I really like about him. They're five and
zer against teams with a winning record. That's so Mike Tomlin.
Mike Tomlin's off. His teams often played poorly against mediocre teams,
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are bad teams. But if you back Mike Tomlin teams
into a corner against the winning team or they're an underdog,
they're fantastic. Two to oher in games this year without
scoring a touchdown. The rest of the league is two
and eighteen, so they can win multiple ways. Pittsburgh get
five number four. I think Philly's got the best roster
in the league. Lead the NFL in yardage differential seven
to zero when aj Brown plays. Their defense over the
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last six weeks has given up less than two touchdowns.
Nick Sirianni, to me, has stepped back and let his
coordinators coordinate, and that's when he's at his best. I
do think their roster, they're the best roster in terms
of rising young stars, stars in their prime, and old stars,
where I think Detroit doesn't have as many veteran stars.
They're mostly younger going into their prime. But I have
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Philadelphia at four, number three, and the final three teams
are the only teams I think can win the Super Bowl.
Kansas City Listen Mahomes has a lot of picks. He's
got eleven, but here's the thing to remember. They're still
the best third down offense in the league fifty two percent,
and Mahomes has still been unbelievable in the fourth quarter
one ZHO nine point nine passer rating, So I do
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think interceptions do matter in big, big games, and he's
had some ugly ones this year, but they're still to
say they're bad offensively, no they're not. They're great on
third down and great in the fourth quarter, and that's
all I mostly give a rip about. But I'm gonna
put him third this week number two. Buffalo beat him,
and Buffalo beat him without three of their starters. Offensively,
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I think this is the best Buffalo team I've seen
for years and years. They didn't have a good running back.
Now they do. Now they have two good tight ends,
although Kincaid didn't play. I think the young rookie receiver
and Amari Cooper are really nice. Plus they have the
slot from Boise State. I think this is the best
version of Buffalo. I don't listen. Four straight regular season
went against Kansas City. It's this is not like Baltimore
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and Pittsburgh where the Steelers are in Lamar Jackson's head.
That's not this. They beat Kansas City, they just don't
beat him when they want to beat him. In January
number one, listen Detroit's numbers data. I still question them
if they got to a Super Bowl situationally, but I
mean they're the second team to score fifty plus points
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in back to back home game since the seventy merger.
It's like a college team. They get ahead their Randy
Moss Patriots, where they get ahead of so many teams
by seventeen points at the beginning of the second quarter
that it actually makes their defense much more lethal because everybody,
by the mid second quarter you have to pass. So
even though I don't love all their defensive personnel, it's
the best third down defense on any given Sunday in
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the league because everybody in Detroit knows what's coming. It's
the Randy Moss Patriots. Was that the best Patriots defense? No,
but when you lead twenty seven to seven mid second quarter,
there's only one way to get back in the game.
You have to throw, and your edge rushers know it.
There you go the Herd hierarchy again. The three teams
at the top are all trophy hoisting teams. To me,
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I still have reservations on Philly, though I love their roster.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
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Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, he's kind of going low profile today. You can
barely see Michael Irvin, who does has to go through
American airports. Yeah, you did not want to be spotted today.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Right right, I'm coming through creeping in hiding. Just like
somebody looked at me and said, are you most from
the long Yard?
Speaker 5 (27:02):
I was saying, oh yeah, but that's.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
What I was trying to pull back up Beacon Most.
If you think I'm a prisoner, you just let me
get through here and leave me alone.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
You know what? I'm saying I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Just let me get Okay, So I will say this.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
Cause that thing's bad right now in Dallas and walking
around usually having a cowboy hat and on all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
None of that all Black is trying to get through. Now.
I get it. I get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So when Jerry has taking big swings, firing Tom Landry,
getting Dion, buying the Cowboys big loan, it's worked. When
he's played it safe. I'm not gonna get Dereck Henry
at the trade line. I'm gonna move a Bari Cooper
so we're more cap flexible. Jerry's a wildcatter in oil
when when he has taken big risks, I believe to
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get out of this mess because right now, Michael, it's
very unique. I'm gonna name quarterbacks. They're all in their prime.
Mahomes Allan Lamar Burrow, Herbert Craig Goff. Okay, you're not
winning right now. I believe you have to if you
go three and fourteen, and I think it's possible. I'm
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hiring Dion and I'm giving away the farm to get
up to Shadeur Sanders. Am I crazy?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Not at all, not at all, And I like it.
I'm just telling you I like it now. Now Here's
the thing though, here's the thing you saying. If you're
gonna hire Dion and give away the farm to get
up and get your door, I think you're going to
be right there to get your door anyway.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
You see what I mean?
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Just by the way, this season, if you lose the right,
you're not going to have to give up the farm.
You're going to be pick one, two or three. Pick
certainly pick one or two. You know the way you're
playing right now? At home, you'll get You're on an
average that six game losing streak you're on at home.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
At home. This is why I'm dressed in black.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
We can't even come up with anything at home prior
to this.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
At home we won sixteen in a row.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You just were at the Colorado game. You're close with
Deon Sanders, right.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I spent Friday with Jerry, Saturday with Dion, and Sunday
praying for the.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Let me just be real with you.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Do you think Dion and I think he loves college,
But if his son and Travis Hunter a gone, do
you think Dion would listen to Jerry Jones call if
he offered him the job.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I think, Dion, if if Jerry and the Cowboys up
there around one and gonna get your door, if you
want somebody to follow footsteps, you got your door.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You get Dion. I absolutely believe that happens because you do.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I Dion understands how important it is to have that
relationship with your quarterback. Yes, more important anything else in
the world on the next level is that relationship with
your quarterback. If you don't believe me, ask the New
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York Jackson, the people that are disappearing over there. You
see what I'm saying. So so that and Dion understands
that point. Dion understands that way.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
What do you make of that Jets they fired their
GM today. What do you make of Aaron and the Jets?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
You know, the Jets, I said, messed up when they
tried to make Aaron Rodgers the main things instead of
keeping their main thing as the main thing. They were
primarily a running game, run team to play great defense,
that needed some guidance at quarterback, and that their fight
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was to find the quarterback that you come in and
make the few plays that they need. Throw the ball
twenty five times a game, not this fifty five times.
You know, the first six weeks of the season they
were in the top three. Now that they realized they
messed up, so last four weeks they tried to come back,
you know, come back from all the throwing, but it's
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too late. They allowed Aaron Rodgers to pull them into
his fight of trying to prove to everybody, to woke
crowd in Green Bay, that I still have it, instead
of Aaron Rodgers being added to their fight, which is
a run game and defense right right, and they let
Aaron Rodgers bounce around their identity. Now, you take a
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super Bowl winning All Pro quarterback and you said, well,
we don't have one of those who're just listening to
what he says, and you got disaster. You take a
super Bowl winning All Pro quarterback that has stumbled, and
you give him to the Pittsburgh Steelers, where there's a
coach who has already set the order. We already got
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our identity. We're running the ball and playing defense, and Russell,
can you make a.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Few plays for us? That's the difference. That's the difference.
Join his stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Aaron Rodgers made the gest join his stuff, and now
they are in disaster.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's a really good point that basically Mike Tomlins said,
because I've argued forever people think Brady was the savior
of Tampa. But as Tom knew, that was a loaded roster.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
But you know what, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
It came to ls. They've been to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
That's that's a good point. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
When you so when Russell went to Denver, he was
viewed as the savior Aaron to the Jets, it doesn't exist.
There is no such thing unless you're Patrick Mahomes or
Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
To me this say you're saying.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
What you're saying is nobody's giving up the Savior. Nobody's
giving up a savior. By the time you get him,
he's no longer a savior, you know what I mean.
He's a disciple of the Savior, but he's no savior himself,
you see what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
So you like the Steelers what they've done with man.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I love what the Steelers have done.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
And and and the move that Mike made at six
and two going you know, when the kid.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Was justin fields, they moved off to I mean four and.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Two, move off from for justin field and still go
and get what he's.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Got by the way, Michael, we have a winning record,
and move off the popular kid that everybody likes.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Oh, because you know, if it didn't work, and it
doesn't work, they gonna they gonna chop.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
You up and chew you and chew you out right
right right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
And and and it worked in an extraordinary way. And
I loved how he did the other day. And honesty,
I love the kid, and I'm praying for the kid.
But Mike Tumblin, thank god they won that game the
other day, or we would have been back over on
the kid again, justin fields like you see why Mike
Tumblin made the change. Even that little one yard slide early,
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that early one yard.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Slide could have coast that game. Yep, could have.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Coast that game. And that's what Mike is saying. I
just want the guy to not make the mistake that's
going to cost me a game. Just hold on to
the ball and not make the mistakes is going to
cost me a game. Luckily, they were able to get
that first down and win that game.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, let's talk about the Lions. So you played on
a cowboy team when I was a kid growing up,
The Steelers in nineteen seventy five had about nine Hall
of Famers. The Cowboy team you were on had four
or five six Hall of Famers. You start looking at Piney,
Seuel Honor on Saint Brown, Jared Goff when he's healthy,
a the largest and the branch, the safety. You start
looking at that team Detroit. You know you've been on
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one of those. Right when you go into the game
and it's like we'll be playing with a lead every Sunday.
Do you think the giant are the Lions? Are they
peaking too early? Are you concerned that they're not being
pushed back a little? They're rolling over teams now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Right right now.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Let me tell you what when I look at the Lions,
I said, because I said this, you know last year
on Undisputed. Now when I saw him, I said, man,
it's just frying. It reminds me a lot of our
young team because young talent everywhere.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
And it's not just they got young talent. They love playing.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Football together like we love playing football together, you know
when we were coming up, the early Cowboys ninety Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
The difference, the difference here is Jared Golf with Jered
Golf are we.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Going to have.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
There's a Jared Goff that let go from right out
here in LA because they said you can't win the
big game.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, a strictly pocket guy.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Right right right and and and then they won the
big game without him.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
So that's the stain on him on him.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Now he's playing with a chip on his shoulder, Jared
goffars and and he's gonna need that chip so he
can remove that stain.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You see what I mean. He's gonna need that chip
to remove that stain. Now what, Jered.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Golf, do you get that team I'm talking about that
we were with the Cowboys. We ran off seven straight
victories with Steve Burline a quarterback one time. Remember Steve
Burline the quarterback we ran off, We ran through everybody
we got in the playoffs and we lost to a
Detroit team in the playoffs. Steve Burline had great talent,
great talent, and we would have won a lot of
games with Steve Burrline. And we got some playoff games
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with Steve Burline, but we never would have become a
dynasty with him. Troy Aikman took us to the dynasty
level when we got him back. Now, Jared golf has
the range to be Steve Berline or Troy Aikman. If
he stays Steve Berlin, they'll continue to do this and
just get in the playoffs and never get there. But
if he turns back into the number one pick of
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the draft and become Troyman playing with it himself like
Troy played within himself, then this Detroit team can do
so many things that ninety Cowboys team did.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, So I want to get into this whole Jake
Paul Tyson thing. So you may the thing we talked
about before we went on the air, Can you talk
about that or no?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
But Jake Paul, Yeah, yeah, ok yeah. I was saying, yeah,
I saw somebody out, Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, although many are proven true.
So that's okay.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
But but you're an analyst.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
You're an analyst, that's right, and any analyst has the
answer who, what, where?
Speaker 5 (36:50):
When? Why? Who?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
I wondered something during the fight and what did you
say to me before you went on the air today?
On a contract?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
I said, I I said I was looking for Mike
Tyson because he got me too. When he walked in
that ring. I saw, I saw death in his eyes.
I said, oh my god, I said, I.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
See some scared.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
I was scared. That don't look like nobody coming to play, right.
And I was looking for that patented one. But one
in the body upper cut?
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, so was body that was his you know, his
left hook and his upper custs or the drop shots.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
It is it you see and when you when he
when he hits that bad it's.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Boom boom boom, and you I want to see that.
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
So why didn't we get it?
Speaker 5 (37:35):
We didn't get it. We're not a one. And then
I heard somebody.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
I saw somebody read read somewhere with somebody said it
was in the contract.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
No upper cuts, no upper cut. They they take you seriously.
I kind of buy this.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Yeah, they had it in the country. Come on, guys,
why wouldn't Mike throw an upper cut?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
If Nolan Ryan pitched in a game at sixty and
never threw a fastball right, and you'd be.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Like, sums up, sums up, what's going on? Mike?
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I had good knees and you still play football and
didn't run a slant route?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Some fix, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
So I watched what to do now. I know Mike
had a blood transfusion. He almost died July twentieth, and
you and I said the fight should have been in March.
His body was still recovering. He ran out of gas
third round. But if you watched Tyson's career, the upper
cut it was the kill shot. It was, and he
didn't throw one.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
And once he hits you in that stomach and you
just lean a little bit, you set yourself up for
that upper cut and here it comes.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay. The other thing is Jake Paul by about the
fifth round, had a chance. And I wondered, after what
you said, did Jake Paul say, listen, I signed a contract.
He can't throw an upper cut. I'm not gonna humiliate him,
and I agree to a deal that Mike can't throw,
he can't hit cleanup, he can't bring the bomb right.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
And I liked it he did that. I like that.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
He's that he didn't go kill on kill Mike. And
which is which is which is funny because Jake gets
a lot of he gets a lot of hate and
pushback on you know, and I like the guy. I
like my I mentioned it on the broadcast. If you
got to honor and respect the man he works hard.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
That that hacks the whole game, like he has hacked
the whole game.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
They did it his way and listening in your way
and still got right where he wanted to be. Deon
Sanders is doing that in football as a head coach.
He's doing the same thing. He's hacked the system. He said,
I'm doing this my way, and you guys got to
respect that. I mean, I think he's a brilliant guy
and I and he got he got kudos for me
for honoring Mike Tyson with that, with that twenty million dollars,
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the gift package and pulling up in the fifth round.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I want to go back to the Shadeur sanders don thing.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
People will push back and say, well, what are you
going to do with Dak? In My take is Dak
will have a market, somebody will pay some of the contract.
And the truth is Denver has shown us even with
fifty million of dead cap money, Russell Wilson, if you
get the coach and the quarterback right, you can still
be good because you're not paying Bonnicks for five years,
(40:14):
so you can you can handle that dead cat. And
somebody would comment Dak would have a market.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah, Dak would have a market. There's no doubt. There's
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You got to Dak before the draft pick and say
we're gonna take you door. Where do you want to go?
And we'll try to make it. We'll be good, we'll
be good suitors. We'll go find the suitors. You pick
the team you want, we'll try to get it there. Yeah,
don't make it public. So we have leverage.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
And I love Dak, and Dak's given us a lot
of wins. And I'm sitting here listening to these scenarios
and I say to myself, Wow, you know I would
hate to see that go. I love that.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
But right now, when you.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
Look at the Cowboys as they are currently constructed, you
gotta say, there's.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Something that has to be done here.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
Sure, you can't stay, you can't continue to lose games,
eat at home thirty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Clip.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
You're losing these games, thirty eight at thirteen in front
of your home, crawd.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
It's just getting bad.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
So something has to be shaken up and be done,
and Jerry has to get it done.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
People don't understand how hard Michael works. So the last
three days where have you been?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Well, I've been. I was well. First I did the game.
I mean to fight in Dallas Friday, and then Friday
now because it went to Colorado Saturday and came back
Sunday and went to the Monday night game and then
flew here early Tuesday morning.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
And you don't do the private I'll be here with you.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
No, I don't do private planes. I don't well, I'm
so I don't know. I fly every day and I'm
still scared of planes.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I don't know. I don't know people.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I'm telling you, man, When I get on the airplane
and we hit turbinans, oh my god, man, my anxieties
get so bad because I can't control it, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
I'm not even so that person be next to me.
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
They be so happy to be next to me, right
I see them. They get the phone and they take
them out and they're doing this right here. They trying
to show people that's mean, like it'll take it.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
And then we hit turbles. I crab.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
You know, my head is a pretty stroke. I ground
so tight, like they ain't so happy to sit next
to me anymore.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
They're like, how about a gummy here.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Do you ever take a gummy?
Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, I don't. I appreciate you giving me the chance
to tell people that on TV. Yeah to the dummy.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Yeah, it didn't work quite like I wanted it too.
I was I was still grabbing at everything, y'all. Never
any turbulist. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Man, It's some uncertainty of what's happening in your life,
and and.
Speaker 6 (42:44):
I live on it almost every day. I'm flying every day.
I can't get I don't know why I have this
fear of me. My friends, right, they send a plane
sometimes they want they come. Send the plane, be the
nicest plane of g five g I'll leave it right
in the hangar and go get me. Playing themself towards
the airlines and tell them come pick me up at
the airport.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Man, you know why you probably to fly.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
To Washing That's why you relate and you've endured you're
one of the people.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
What are the people?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
You're walking through those crappy airports like the rest of them.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
Yeah, just like the rest.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
So I can get the feel of the people, so
I can speak with the people. You can't get the
feel of the people without speaking with the people.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
That's how you can communicate.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Okay, and you broke news today. You do believe and
I do too, that if shaud Or went to the Cowboys,
Dion would accept the job.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
I believe one hundred percent. And I can tell you
good sources.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
And told me that.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
Great sources have told me that.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
That's all I can say like that without violating anything else.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
The play You don't love I love you too, but
I love I love you here with you boy. All Right,
we're gonna make this a regular. Next year, we're gonna
make it a regular.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
You're always welcome to Playmaker
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