Colin’s top takes of the week!
He begins with the Texans beating down the Cowboys 34-10 on Monday Night Football! He breaks down why the Texans will be fine despite some struggles and debates what the Cowboys should do in the draft in order to secure an impact player for the future seeing as they “aren’t close” (4:00).
He explains why fans shouldn’t freak out about pro athletes like USMNT star Christian Pulisic and 49ers DE Nick Bosa doing the “Trump Dance” despite (12:00), and why ESPN adding the star-studded crew of “The NBA On TNT” to their programming slate was a savvy business move (15:45).
Then, Colin is joined by former Alabama QB and ESPN college football analyst Greg McIlory to break down the playoff rankings and preview the playoff!
They start by discussing how much of a “cold weather” advantage Big Ten teams will have when hosting SEC teams from a warmer climate (27:45). They debate what Ohio State’s true identity is besides “talented” (34:00) and if their emphasis on elite wide receiver talent has made them soft in the trenches and run game (38:00)
Finally, Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network and host of “The Favorites” podcast, joins Colin for a round of “Sharp or Square,” to help provide Colin with the sharpest betting advice for week 12 of the NFL slate!
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We saw the Texans thump the Dallas Cowboys and I
got my Draft Kings bet right Houston minus four and
a half to cover in the first half.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
First play of the.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Game was actually a touchdown ineligible man downfield. Screw that up,
but they scored Joe Mixon on a big run after
that to take a lead. Never look back. I mean,
the first thing is c J. Stroud has struggled for
about five weeks, and you can tell why. He's got
a bad offensive line and golf. They call it the yips.
He lets go of the ball too quickly. I don't
worry that he's got more interceptions now than he did
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all of last year, because when he had Stefon Diggs
and Nico Collins healthy, he was four and one. He's
still undefeated in division. He's four and four after the
win over Dallas tonight in the rest of their games.
I think the Houston Texans are fine. They're the Green
Bay Packers of the AFC. They're a year away. They
need another draft. They're a little bit thin. The Packers
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are a little young. Texans are a little thin. They
both have good young coaches, really good young quarterbacks. They're
just not ready to beat the Detroits or like the
Buffalo's in Kansas City's. But it's a good team. And
don't I don't take anything away from c J.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
His comp was Jared Goff. Well, if you go back
to Jared Goff's third year in the NFL, that was McVeigh.
His passer rating dip to like mid eighties, high eighties,
and so you know CJ doesn't trust his protection. PFF
has their O line at like twenty six, twenty seventh.
His top receiver, Stefon Diggs is out. Nico Collins came
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back tonight. He's been hurt. Nico Collins is amazing. He
went to Michigan. He was a southern kid from I
think Alabama, went to Michigan. Productive, but not a superstar
in college, like mid thirties catches and they got him
in the third round. And boy, he is a hard guard.
He is a hard guy to defend it it you know,
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you can tell c J. Stroud and his comp is golf.
So he's not a playmaker. He's a sit in the
pocket and throw darts. When Goff's offensive line great, Jared's great.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
His rookie year, c J.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Stroud had a very good offensive line. He was outstanding.
Goff and Stroud those were the comps by scouts, and
it was accurate. CJ moves a little better. But when
they don't have great protection, they rush things, they throw
more interceptions. They're just not as on point. And I
think that's c J. Stroud just needs better protection. He'll
be fine. I think the Jared Goff comparison's always been true,
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and they have great protection. They're really special.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's interesting though, watching the Cowboys. So the Cowboys right now,
if you go to the current NFL draft order, there's
five teams with two wins, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Las Vegas Giants,
and then there's four teams with three wins, the Jets,
New England, Carolina, and Dallas. Dallas is now at three
and nine, and so the advantage for Dallas is, Listen,
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they have a chance to end up with just three
wins now with Cooper Rush. But they played Tommy to
Veto and the Giants on Thanksgiving, and if they win
that game, and I think they will, that'll be their
fourth win. It'll take Dallas out of any shot for
a first, second, or probably third pick in the draft.
It's not a particularly strong draft, and they wouldn't take
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Shadu or Sanders anyway. But what I was hoping is
if Dallas can get into the top five and they
still have a shot even if they beat the Giants,
that would be four wins. They also play Carolina. But
if you're Dallas at this point, this is why the
New York Giants are not going to go to Drew Locke.
They're going to Tommy DeVito. They'd rather not win games.
And the Giants have a real shot because I think Jacksonville, Tennessee,
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and Cleveland are two talented they'll win another game. If
the Giants get beat by Dallas, there's a real possibility
they don't win another game, and they have the number
one pick, and they will absolutely draft shade or Sanders,
So Dallas. I would draft Shadeur Sanders, but I wouldn't
sign Dack to a long term contract. But Dallas isn't
going to draft him. There's some good players in this draft.
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Umber two pick I think will be Kelvin Banks. He's
an offensive tackle from Texas. Travis Hunter, a very explosive
player from Colorado, will go second or third. Mason Graham,
the defensive tackle Michigan. Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan.
Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU. T Mac the
wide receiver Arizona, really big target, Southern California kid. He's
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really good player. Cam Ward is going to go somewhere
in the top ten, although I know little backyard football.
For me, I wouldn't draft him that high. But it's
not a great draft. There's a lot of Mchhale Williams
the defensive edge for Georgia. There's a lot of Georgia
and Michigan guys in the top twelve, top fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Not a great draft.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And listen, if I was Dallas and I got a
top five pick, I would move down because I don't
think they're close to Detroit, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Kansas City. I
don't think their rosters close. I don't think one player
is going to solve it. But if I don't think
this is a good enough draft where people are going
to want to move up unless you have a top
five pick and maybe a top yeah, a top five pick,
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and somebody wants cam Ward, who I think is an
okay prospect. I think shud Or Sanders is a strong prospect,
kind of in the Jade and Daniels class. You know,
electric moving, nice arm, very accurate. You know, he's a winner.
He was a winner first year in college. He's a
winner at Colorado. I mean, they're a really good football
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team now that can win the Big Twelve. So you know,
Dallas there is This is what happens for the Giants
who reached the do Daniel Jones, the Cowboys who have
overpaid Dak had some injuries. I would strongly consider the
one thing about this draft. It's week at quarterback, it's
strong at wide receiver, and it's strong in the first
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round on edge rusher. I would consider moving Micah Parsons.
You know, somebody's going to give you a first round
pick and have to pay him. But you know, there's
there's a lot of teams in this league that are close,
but they could use an elite edge rusher and Mike
go unhealthy is that and you could go draft another
edge rusher and restart the clock on that position. And
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there's several. Abdul Carter the edge rusher from Penn State,
it's a top ten pick again, Williams from Georgia, top
ten twelve pick. But I think I think Dallas, you know,
they have to have like a come to Jesus moment.
They're just not very good. I mean, you watch tonight.
You know Ceedee Lamb's an explosive player, but they know
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their past protection is just okay. They have the weakest
running back room in the league. They have nothing after
Ceedee Lamb. Of note, they need a lot of help.
Their corners are okay, not special in my opinion. So
I think that's that's where Dallas is. It's not a
year in the NFL draft to want a quarterback. There's one,
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and I think you know, listen, Vegas and the New
York Giants both need one. I think Sam Darnold will
probably have a market, a decent market, because I think
Minnesota is gonna I think they've got a chance to
sneak into the playoffs. They're just good enough. But Dallas
has a long way to go. Houston's gonna be fine.
They're gonna be fine. They're gonna get better next year.
I like their coach, their quarterback, their front office, They
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got some players. Their old line is just kind of
a mess. A lot of panelies don't pass protect particularly well.
You saw it tonight. They don't pick up blitzes. They
just they just it's a bad unit. But but Dallas
has to really think long and hard. The downside a
mediocre draft like this year is the Cowboys would love
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to trade down. This is why I believe they have
to have a top five pick, because the people the
only players that people will trade up for is a
Shadoor Sanders or maybe a cam Ward. There's there's like
one or two great tackles. There's four or five. I
think Mason Graham, the defensive tackle for Michigan's really really special.
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He's been unblockable by a single offensive lineman in college football.
You kind of have to double team him, so, you know,
just it's interesting to see all these teams at the
top of the draft. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas. You know,
you're kind of used to them, Jets, Carolina, Then all
of a sudden you go, oh yeah, Dallas, Wow, Dallas.
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But you watch the night there's nothing there. So you're
you're seeing something all through college and pro sports. And
it was very noticeable this weekend, you know, the Trump
dance by young NFL players, African American players, white players,
veteran players, Brock Bauers, the young tight end for Las Vegas.
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But I was really you know, athletes have a sense
of humor. You know, it's a sport. It's a business,
but it's a sport, and you know, after you score,
you celebrate.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I don't care what players do.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I really don't, but I did think it was interesting
that in soccer, United States men's national team star Christian
Polisic did the Trump dance. And the reason I think
it's surprising is that soccer tends to have a very young,
left leaning audience, and when he did it, I thought,
oh boy, there's going to be a meltdown. And regardless
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of where I've always viewed myself really as a moderate independent,
but you can drive yourself crazy all you want. But
the reason the athletes are doing this is because it's
really a quirky, weird, odd dance, and every time Trump
did it, it just looks so outdated. And I think
Trump sort of leans into it now and knows people
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get a kick out of it, and it's okay to
take a deep breath. And regardless of what you think
of a politician, it is a three second, four second dance.
They're pro athletes. Take a deep breath, or you can
go into therapy for the next four years. And because
you're side lost and be miserable. You know, sometimes I
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think in politics the greatest advantage conservatives have is people
watching the other side melt down and look crazy and
out of their mind. It's just a dance, it's no
big deal. It's three seconds. Athletes have a sense of humor.
We're all going to be okay on that. But it
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was noticeable to me that when Poolisic did it, I thought, oh,
that's that's surprising. You know, soccer players in the soccer
community have always felt a little European, kind of left leaning,
young stylish.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That's what it's.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Always felt like to me, you know, the hipsters.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I love.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love soccer. You know, I've told the story before.
My mom was British and when I was a kid,
really really young, I was probably six years old, seven
years old, my mom took me to England, and England
was the Netherlands with Johann Croive a great soccer star,
and England where the dominant kind of teams in the world,
and England had won a World Cup back then, and
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my mom bought me a little soccer set and I
can remember playing with it in the window ledge in England, Lancashire,
in the middle of England, where my mom was from,
and so I remember those I had these strong It's
one of the first memories of my life is playing
with this soccer game and Netherlands wore orange, that's their
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country's color, and it was on television. It must have
been around, you know, the World Cup, because that's all
my mom and her twin brother, my late mother and
her twin brother, Peter, that's all they you know, that
was like a big topic of conversation and they went
and got me that soccer game. So I've always been
and then I moved to the Pacific Northwest. You know,
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I was from there, the Seattle Sounders, the Portland Timbers,
and then I went there in my career. So I've
always liked soccer, especially the United States men's national team.
But I didn't look at the reactions of their face
when Polistic did that. But I thought, there's gonna be
some melt founds over that. And again, take a deep
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breath to four second dance. People are just having fun.
So there's been some concern consternation on where is the
Shaq Barkley Ernie Kenny Johnson show going to go now
that Warner Brothers and TNT has lost the NBA and
this was going to be their last year with him.
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So over the course of I think it was late
last week, it was announced in the negotiation between the
NBA and TNT, Adam Silver didn't want TNT involved in it.
Long story, mostly boring. The top executive for Warner Brothers
just pissed off Adam Silver and he no longer wanted
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him associated with the league, and so basically they struck
a deal on ESPN is going to get the show,
The Barkley Shack Show. I actually think it is significant
because in the regular season that show is often more
entertaining than the games in a long NBA regular season,
and I'm a huge fan of Mike Breen. I never
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understood breaking up Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson and Mike Breen.
I thought at the time it was easily their strongest
broadcast unit. I didn't get it. Probably political. Van Gundy
had been at times critical of the NBA, so it
felt like Adam Silver stepped in and blew that up.
And it's happened before. I remember when David Stern was commissioner,
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I had heard complaints that he wasn't happy with the
I forget the broadcaster one of the broadcasters on ABCESBN
and David Stern had pressured ESPN to make changes. So
but I do think ESPN's NBA coverage for the last
I mean, what do they had the rights twenty twenty
two years. I love Breen, but it's just been a
revolving door of personalities and they've no really stepped up
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and spent big money and got landed a superstar. And
I think this will really cement. I mean, let's be honest,
for years and years, Monday Night Football was kind of
swimming in mediocrity. It's nothing against the broadcasters, but it
never felt as good as like Al Michaels or you know,
the bigger broadcast teams. Jim Nantz and so Buck and
(15:22):
Aikman have solidified Monday night Football. They make it feel
big again. And for years, I just I felt like
it just it didn't feel as big as the Fox
Game of the Week or the Sunday Night Football Game
of the Week, or the CBS Jim Nance Romo.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Game of the Week.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
ESBN felt like Number four and buckan Aikman have elevated it,
and I think ESPN's pre and postgame show has been
really weak, and I mean I mean the halftime shows
like two minutes and commercials.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I mean they don't even care. They're just selling spots.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So I think this will make it more formidable, like
Buckan Akman do. It'll make it feel big. And I think,
if you're Adam Silver, NBC is going to have NBA,
ESPN's going to have NBA, and Amazon's going to have NBA,
but the incumbent is ESPN, and I think it's a
strong play. I think, you know, I love the business
(16:13):
I'm in. I think Jimmy Bataro, who runs ESPN, has
taken big swings. I think Nick Saban, Pat McAfee, Buckan, Aikman,
Shaq Barkley, Jason Kelsey, Bill Belichick. Those are big swings.
And I think is our business. As the market's gotten
wider and wider and wider, it's harder to develop shows.
It's easier to go get widely recognized personalities. To put
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a Nick Saban on a game day, and I think
he's been the perfect tonic on that show between all
their other cast just he just clicked with them. And
so I and the reason ESPN has done some big
game hunting. I mean they've really taken some big swings.
Is because for years and years they were swimming in
red with their streaming growth, you know, Disney Disney Plus,
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and it was losing you know, four five billion a year.
Will they just turned to profit. This year they made
a billion, and so this point forward, Disney's going to
be making four eight, twelve twenty billion dollars a year
in their streaming. So you know, underneath Disney is ESPN.
And even though cable television is probably got six years left,
(17:26):
seven years left from what I read, Disney's now humming.
So they're taking big swings and they're going buying big
name people as the market has become very very wide,
and it's just it's when people there's so many platforms,
there's so many options. I mean, people are sitting on
TikTok all day. To get attention, you got to go
(17:48):
take big swings. And you know, I think that's what
Shack and Barkley and Kenny and Ernie are. I think
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There's the Alabama quarterback that won a Natty in twenty
ten with a Crimson tide. He's the host of olwa's
College Football Greg McElroy, who we bring on two or
three times a year. The latest college football rankings have
come out BYU is gone. I don't have a problem
with it, I think, and I'm assuming most of you
who listened to my show know what the college football
rankings were. Oregon one, Ohio State two, Texas three, Penn
(20:10):
State four, Not sure I buy Penn State, Indiana five
Notre Dame six, Bama, who I think is better than
advertised at seven, Miami eight. Don't know if I buy him,
Ole Miss nine, Georgia ten, Tennessee, who I had winning
the Natty eleven, and Boise State twelve. So here's let
me just throw this out there. For years and years
I heard Greg Big Ten fans always state, why don't
we have to go south to play our bowl games?
(20:32):
So what's interesting is Georgia would have to go to
Penn State, it's pickham, Ole Miss would have to go
to Indiana, and Alabama would have to go to Notre Dame.
I do think that's an advantage for cold weather teams
over warm weather teams.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Do you absolutely that's a huge deal, especially looking at
the I mean, what did Wisconsin just do this past week?
I mean, and I know that right now it's not
frigid ten temperatures in Madison, but they just got rid
of their air raid style offensive coordinator because it's hard
to throw and to be a pass happy offense in
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November in the Big Ten, well raise it by at
least I don't know, three or four times the intensity
in the playoff setting in December. I mean, look, I've
lived in Cincinnati in New Jersey in my time in
the NFL. The day I left Cincinnati it was minus
thirty two degrees wind chill, and I thought to myself,
I'm never coming back. If I have to retire, I will.
(21:31):
I cannot play in this. We don't even have an
indoor facility at the Bengals. I cannot do it anymore. Ye, So,
long story short, I think you go to Columbus, you
go to Penn State. Depending on the day, it could
be a three to five point advantage in favor of
the home team.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So Greg McElroy, as many of you know as a friend,
he and Joel platter people I really like to talk
college football with. They're so prepared, and they both played
the quarterback position. Alabama's fascinating. First of all. Jalen Milroll,
I don't know, and I do this for a living.
I don't know what to make of him as a
(22:07):
pro prospect.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I really like.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Him as a college quarterback. I think he throws a
beautiful deep ball. He's got really like a Russell Wilson
deep ball touch. It's a beautiful ball, incredibly catchable, and
I think kayland Boor. I think we forget that Kaylen
de Boor is a great coach and took over a
great program. But you're instituting your own culture. And I
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think Nick was more of a little bit more of
a screamer.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A volume coach like Loud.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's not Kayln. He's more of a teacher and a mentor.
So there's an adjustment for the players in Alabama.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's a new way. So they've had a couple of.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Really bad halves, really bad halves, and I'm like, okay,
but I don't care if you're taking if I'm taking
over Nike, it's a great company. I'm trying to change
the culture and institute my worldview. So I think Alabama
now is actually underrated. I think it's gonna I think
by the end of this season, you're going to look
at them and go, God, they're really good. They have
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an NFL first second round quarterback, they have an excellent coach.
But so I'm defending Alabama. My take is they get
cherry picked a little more than most teams because they
lose Nick and they're going to lose some guys in
the portal, and people cherry pick them. It's very hard
to follow Nick Caleb or is Kaylen's learning as he goes.
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Alabama's not Washington, Okay, al The culture's different, the demands
are different, the intensity, the media.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's a relentless job. Washington's not.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They got the Seahawks right down the road. If you lose,
people forget very quickly. I think he's done a great job.
I think Alabama now is underrated. You know the program
better than anybody. Am I overstating what they can do?
I think they can win a Natty. In fact, I
would take them over I would over Georgia. But I
don't think that's I don't think that's the view of
(24:03):
most experts.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that they've been a bit of a punching
bag this year, understandably because we chase false gods in sports,
you know, like, do you realize that I don't know.
I mean you cover the NBA. Did Michael Jordan ever
miss a game winning shot? Absolutely not? Because I check
(24:28):
YouTube highlights and I don't see a lot of misses
on there. Like we chase false gods, and I feel like,
even though we're just one year removed, people will look
at Nick Saban's tenure and they're going to sit there
and think, oh well, he never played close against teams
after a law after a big win, Oh well, he
never had a two point win against South Carolina, who
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at the time was like a five hundred football team.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Oh well, well.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He never did this, and the realities is not true.
Nick Saban after a win or after a loss, excuse me,
was like eight and fourteen against the spread in the
last five years.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's like it's like nobody are in the last ten
years or something. It was like some absurd number. I mean,
it's it's ridiculous. It's not accurate. The people don't want
to remember that because they just remember the dominance of
the greatness for so long. And that's not disparging Nick
at all. I think he's the greatest coach in the
history of college football. It's just people don't realize that
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he also had teams that had flaws and that had
growing experiences, and I think this team has had that.
And the unfortunate thing about this team is his team
is going to go, or at least it has up
to this point. How their quarterback goes to be. This
quarterback dependent is a challenge. Your best offensive weapon outside
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of Jalen milro is a true freshman who is an
undersized wide receiver that has freak show qualities, but he's
not you know, he's not Megatron. There's going to be
some defensive backs that he has a tough matchup again,
and there's going to be some that he torches. But
he's young. Your running game is really good, and your
offensive line is developing into a star. That is what
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I think is most encouraging about where Alabama's going on
their trajectory. And they're very young on defense with a
new system, and they've played a little better and better
down the stretch too. So I think you're buying low
on Alabama if you buy them now. Can they win
the Natty? I think it's all matchup driven. That's what
I think is cool about where we're going is it's
very matchup driven. But I do think they can do
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it if the things bounce their way in they play
their a game down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So I made the argument the other day, I don't
I thought the win over Penn State. Penn State had
opportunities to win that game, and I'm not saying Penn
State's not worthy of the playoff, but if Indiana beat
Ohio State and Oregon beat Ohio State, in my opinion,
the two best teams they've played, because if Indiana beats
Ohio State, they're for real now they're a thirteen point under.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Doinars probably won't.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But I made the argument is if Ohio State lost
to Oregon in Indiana, man, I that doesn't I mean
that you're certainly not getting a home game from me
in the playoffs. Now what do you make of Ohio State?
I call them the whack a mole team. Every time
I'm watch, something else pops up that worries me. Yeah,
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first it was their defense Oregon. Then it was their
offense Penn State, or it was their offense against Nebraska,
and then it was their quarterback play Will Howard against
Penn State, and I'm like, something's off.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
There's just something.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And by the way, I felt this for the last
two to three years against Michigan, where Michigan had an
absolute identity Nick Saban's team's identity. What is Ohio State
in your eyes?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Beyond talented?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I think they're I ain't. They're a team that wants
to be rugged, but they still have a bun, you
know what I mean? Like they want to be rugged,
but they still have a lot of sport. It's like,
you know, they they have a dirt road that you
have to run in the Big ten to win a championship,
and they can't decide if they want to take their
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you know, Ford F one fifty or their GMC Sierra
or if they just want to say forget it, well,
who cares if we if we blow an axle, like,
let's drive the Ferrari and see what happens. I think
that there is a bit of an identity. Do they
want to be a running team? They want to utilize
quarterback run? Do they want to do they want to
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be a drop back passing team. Are they a team
that wants to work off play action? Like I think
they can do all those things. I think they do
everything well, but they don't do anything elite, and that
to me is a little bit jaw dropping given their personnel.
Like I think they have a good defensive line, I
don't think they have an elite defensive line. Like I
think they have good run stopping defensive ends, but I
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don't think they have defensive ends that scare me to
death and I can put my tackles on one on
one against them in an obvious passing situation. I think
they have really athletic linebackers, and I think those guys
are actually an upgrade from what they've had in the past.
But I also think they can sometimes over pursue and
Oregon hit them with some misdirections to my violation stuff.
I hate they have really good corners, but I also
don't know if those corners have seen elite elite level
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wide receivers outside of that game against Oregon. And guess what,
every team they play in the playoff will likely have
elite level wide receivers. So it's a roundabout way of
saying I think Ohio State has a crazy high ceiling
and if they ever put it all together, it'd be
a special thing for all of us to watch. But
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it's Week eleven. Yeah, what are we waiting for? And
I hope badly it happens this week and not because
of Indiana or anything. I just want to see it.
You don't accumulate that many pros on one roster and
not just want something more. It feels a little bit
like the twenty fifteen team, you know what I mean,
Like when they were in twenty fifteen, they had the
best roster, but they didn't have the best team now,
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and I don't know why that was.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I made this argument. I think to Urban Meyer a
year ago, I said, they're receiving recruiting has been so good.
Brian Hartline, I mean, it's just all five star guys
that even at practice, it's art, it's beautiful, and it's
hard not to be seduced as a head coach when
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you're looking at these incredible first round wide receivers and
you have good backs, not pedestrian, they're good backs. You
have world class receivers. And I think at practice, I
think in game in film rooms, it's literally like putting
ice cream in front of an eight year old. It's like,
I'm going to eat it, even if I know it's
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not good for me. And I think, what's happened. They're receiving.
Recruiting is so good that it's seductive, and they sometimes
whenever they have a bad drive, we're throwing the ball,
We're going to the perimeter, and it's like this happens now,
Saban his recruiting on the perimeter was great as well,
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But the culture of Alabama was really about physicality and
when I thought Michigan separated from Ohio State. It wasn't
better players until the very last team. It was a
better identity and understanding of what they were. Hell, they
beat Penn State. They didn't throw a pass in the
second half on the road. So I think this may
not make sense, but you know a little. You know
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some of this in the NFL. If your best athletes
are on the perimeter, it's seductive. You're going to be
a more finesse football team. Cincinnati, between losing Joe Mixon,
Higgins and Chase, of course you're gonna throw the ball.
It's just it's too appealing not to. And I feel
like with Ohio State, I don't know if they need
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an eight minute drive to kill the clock. Is it
in them running the ball and eating up clock?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Is it in them? I don't know if it is.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I think that's fair. And they're also sometimes when
I when I watch Ohio State, and I felt like
this a little bit like when I watched the Lincoln
Riley led Oklahoma teams. And this is not comparing Ryan
Day to Lincoln Riley. This is not. I just feel
like they look at a six yard gain like it's
a failure, you know what I mean. Like sometimes when
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I watch them, it's like, oh, handoff to Judkins up
the middle, gain of five at second and five, it's
like guys are walking back to the you know, their
heads are hung. It's like that was a great play.
I mean, I just think there is such a pressure
to not just perform at a high level, but to
have a highly intoxicating offense that goes up and down
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the field. But also when you have an offense that
can score fifty, you're hanging your defense out to dry.
So then if you want to lean into your offense,
now everyone's gonna call you soft because that's that's what
people have been saying for the last two years. That's
why you lost to Michigan because you're quote soft. That's
not true. We aren't soft. It just Michigan was the
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better team on that day.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And Michigan last year had better personnel. They were stacked.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It wasn't close. They were significantly more talented. And look
at the.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Draft they that, yeah, there's still more Michigan guys exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
So I just think that I think that I think
Ohio State needs to just stay the course.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They they're really talented. Don't try to be Michigan that
has a good quarter. Don't try to be Michigan. Don't
try to be pen State. Just don't don't try to
be twenty fifteen Ohio State. Just be you, and you,
the you that you are right now is plenty good
enough to go win a national championship. But I think
it's going to require improved offensive line play, which we've
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seen it's it's been better the last few weeks. I
think it's going to require slightly more aggressive defensive philosophy
with pressures and being able to ramp things up a
little bit. And I think it's going to require them
being a little bit more willing to roll the dice
on the perimeter some of the coverages.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I think.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Don't think you can play quarters all the time beat
beat high level teams. I don't think you can prey
press man all the time beat high level teams. I
just think it's gonna be interesting to watch them. I
think there's plenty of talent in there. I just think
you're right. I think it comes down to identity and
how they want to play into it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Alright. Sharper Square, co host of The Favorites, Chad Millman.
All odds provided by DraftKings. So I had a rant
today on my very popular syndicated radio show Milman.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah, no, I'm familiar, I've I've heard it's big.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
People are talking.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
So my take is what you don't want to become
is the NBA a very strong top, a soft middle,
and ten teams to eleven teams at the bottom that
are unwatchable and non competitive, mostly the Eastern Conference now
and I said, as the NFL has become more quarterback
centric based on a CTE lawsuit and changes of rules
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pivoting to the offense, that we are getting to be
a little nbaish in the NFL. A very strong top
of five or six teams, a pretty soft middle of
like the Seahawks Rams, and nine teams with two or
three wins. Several appear to be soft tanking. And so
I have never been prone to big favorites. But Detroit
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last week at minus fourteen felt like one of the
smarter bets. So the Commander's minus ten and a half.
So I locked it in at ten this week on
the Herd. But I think one teams soft tanking and
one team is fighting for a playoff spot. One team
is now on a backup and not a great backup.
The other team has one of the better rookie quarterbacks
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in a long time. That team's at home playing for something.
I know it's not sharp sharper square, but I like
the commanders here.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, yeah, it's not sharp. The way you said it,
it's like you're waiting for me to tell you. Yeah,
you know what, Colin. The Wise guys are with you.
This is the week where they've decided they love massive
divisional favorites. I'm here to tell you they don't. The
Wise Guys like the Cowboys. And part of this is, yes,
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the number is so big, but there's also some regression
from Jaden Daniels. Right, he was not very good against
the Eagles last week on Thursday Night. In fact, like
since that opening four game stretch where he was completing
eighty percent of his passes, he has yet to complete
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more than seventy percent of his passes in a game,
And so you have to ask yourself, has he started
to come back down to earth. Has teams started to
figure him out? That's really the key to this game.
And look, you can look at what the Cowboys did
last week and say, okay, were they competitive in the
first half? Yes, did Cooper Rush show some flashes of
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being able to be a competitive, too competent quarterback in
the NFL. Certainly more than a lot of other backups
in the league, and frankly a lot of the starters
that we see in the league. But the wise guys
are going to be on the Cowboys here because this
number in a division game is just too big for
a rookie quarterback who's steadily declined as the season has
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gone on. And by the way, the Rookie of the
Year ares odds are a great way to look at that, right,
how much is bo Nicks crept up in behind Jayden
Daniels in the Rookie of the Year conversation? So the
market is starting to recognize some of that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So I like the Bears plus three and a half
hosting the Vikings. Lost in the blocked kick was that
they thoroughly dominated Green Bay, a well coached team that
they schemed up layups, easy completions. Chicago looked good, they
just didn't finish well. Minnesota. You always talk about the
low ratings. You know, I love Sam Donald, but boy,
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they leave a lot of points on the on the floor. God,
I mean that Jacksonville game was maybe that could have
been forty to ten. I like Chicago. I think they
have limitations, but I watched them against Green Bay and
I like their personnel. Caleb played with confidence. The OC
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change mattered Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So it's sharp ish. Don't forget this line opened at five.
So the wise guys bet at five, they better at
four and a half, they better at four. They're still
betting it a little bit at three at three and
a half. If it gets any further than this, if
I'm saying to you, you want to publicly announce you
are locking in the Bears at three and a half,
you don't want to say you're on the Bears at three.
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You're not wrong about Sam Donald and how lucky he's been.
In that game against Tennessee last week. They covered the spread,
but not be because of anything Sam Darnold did. He
had two hundred and forty six yards passing forty percent
of his yards in the air, came on three passes, right,
So he is not having a very good sort of
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second half of the season. He's been very lucky. The
problem for me, and this is where I'm like, I challenge.
The wise guy perception on this is they like the
Bears largely because they think that Caleb did what you
just said. He looked better. He was getting rid of
the ball in less than two and a half seconds.
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It's the first time he's been doing that, right, Can
they really block against a Minnesota Vikings defense that is
so much more complex than the Packers Brian Flores destroys
rookie quarterbacks and Caleb Williams this season, when he is
facing a team that has a sack percentage which is
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basically the number of defensive players that end in a sack.
When he was facing a team that is a sack
percent of more than two point two percent, he's one
and six. So you're looking at a guy who is
facing a team that is a sack percentage of five
and a half percent, And a lot of times it's
not even because they're bringing pressure, they're dropping a lot
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of guys into covers. They just confuse the heck out
of offensive lines and young quarterbacks. So to me, that's
really the matchup you have to be careful of. It's
why I'm staying away from this game. I just don't
think there's any value in this number too much bad
quarterback play, too much good defensive play.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Cardinals plus one. Now at the Seahawks. I've said this
for the last year. I'm not sure what Seattle is.
I think they're well coached, I'm not sure of it.
Sometimes they're smartly quarterbacks, sometimes they're not. I think they'll
move dk Metcalf at some point in the near future.
He always seems unhappy. I know exactly what Arizona is great.
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Co Sel said it on my show this week. They
don't outside of Buddha Baker have great defensive personnel. They
are really smartly schemed, and I think this is an
offense that is young in spots that is growing and confidence.
I like teams that have an identity. As the season
goes on. It takes teams time, even the Patriots and
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Julian Edelman has said it took all of our team's
time to find the identity. By week twelve, some teams
still don't have it. Seattle does an Arizona does Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
So it's sharp, but it's been bouncing around. And I
agree with you about the identity. The Cardinals know exactly
who they are right they are even on defense. They
are still a physical football team. James Connor is a
really violent runner, and they know if they are able
to get him the ball and be effective in the
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running game, that makes Kyler that much more effective in
the passing game. And they're just going to be the
better team because of those two players, especially against a
team like the Seahawks, which just last week before the
gaming it's the Niners. They release their leading tackler, like
that tells you how much they don't know who they are.
It is like they're making pretty big personnel moves coming
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out of a buy in advance of a huge division game.
And I would not take anything from the Seahawks win
against the Niners. It's another weird sort of circumstance for
the Niners with Nick Bosa going out. I think that
impacted the game tremendously. So whilse guys are with you,
the Cardinals in Decide, they're you know, pun intended. They're
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putting the cards on the table here right because they
can take significant control of that division coming off a
by with a lot of hype on this team right now,
so it's a big step up game for them.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I like Green Bay at home minus one and a half. Now,
if Bosa doesn't play, this defense is very good. It's
just not. I don't know if it's smartly schemed, it's okay.
Fred Warner's numbers are down. Bosa is really the lynch
pin of the defense, and when he's out and he's
banged up consistently, it's not very good. And I say
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this about Sam Forrancisco, you are what your record is.
They're a five and five football team, and they're not
very good on special teams. They don't get the consistent
pass rush. Rock Purty is fine, he's not the issue.
They miss a deep threat now. Christian McCaffrey is still
not at one hundred percent on the road. Green Bay
the best kind of team to bet. They won and
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played poorly. You can coach them hard. Green Bay's home
minus one and a half.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Sharper square, totally square. The wise guys are all over
the Niners here. The number was a two and a half.
They were kind of waiting on the Brock Party news
because it leaked out that he had a sore shoulder
and was going to be day to day. He practiced
yesterday and looked fine. So it's really not about Nick
Bosa here. Was about brock Purty and the wise guys.
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Look at the Niners. You just mentioned luck. There's no
bigger difference this week in sort of our luck rankings
than the Packers, who are at the top of the
luck rankings with how lucky they've gotten this year in
games They've won a lot of turnover luck, a lot
of blocked kick luck wrapped up in one specific play
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last week. The Niners have had terrible luck, terrible turnovers
at the wrong time, terrible injuries at the wrong time
in multiple games. Right, So you're looking at two teams
that are really diametrically opposite in terms of how things
have played out for them, and you ask a lot
of wise guys and they'll say they have this game
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even on the road at Green Bay Power Raider to pick.
So you're getting a point and a half of value
right now on the Niners. So that's why the wise
guys like them.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Rams didn't look great and I have no home field advantage.
I like Philly minus two and a half. It'll be
a sixty to seventy percent Philadelphia crowd. The Rams defense
is very interesting but incredibly young, and they're kind of
pedestrian on offense with a quarterback that doesn't move particularly well.
I think rosters it's a miss match. It'll be actually
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a semi home field advantage for Philadelphia. They're hummon. I
don't have to love Nick Sirianni. They are hummon. Saquon
Barkley is playing the best football he's ever played in
his life. They're pretty healthy. Eagles minus two and a half.
Kind of surprised at the line. I thought it would
be bigger Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Well, it's not bigger because it keeps bouncing around. There's
no consensus here. We talked about this on the Favorites
today that there's no real wise guy side. They've come
in on the Rams when it's at three. They've come
in on the Eagles when it's at two and a half,
and that's basically how it's going to go. I'm with you.
I love the Eagles here. I've been on the Rams
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the past two weeks. I felt like they were in
good spots against the Dolphins, lost it, in good spots
against the Pats, won it. The offensive line is not
playing well and they're not protecting Matthew Stafford very well,
and the key to this team and you and I
have talked about this. Sean McVay. For all of his
motion and sort of gadgetry, he likes to run the
ball and that's the strength of this team. I don't
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see the Rams being able to run the ball against
the interior defense of the Eagles, who, by the way,
Vic Fangio brilliant defensive coordinator. Since Week five, the Eagles
have gone from twenty seventh in EPA, which is basically
a fancy way of saying how many points they're expected
to give up on defense on a particular play, to first,
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like this defense has finally figured out what he was
trying to teach them and they're locked in In the
back of the secondary. Cooper Deujen is one of the
top rated cover cornerbacks according to Pro Football Focus. That
should have an impact on what can happen with Cooper,
Cupp and pukuin Nukua. So I'm with you. I like
the Eagles here. I think it's a good spot for them.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Ravens off a wildly emotional Pittsburgh game, Go back on
the road. The Chargers, we said this a month ago,
now that they're healthy, are a really good football team.
Special teams, offense, They're resourceful on offense, they are physical
on defense. They're getting two and a half. Baltimore does
not have like a Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco crowd,
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so it will be mostly a Chargers fan base at
home again. Chargers come off a win, feeling good about
themselves and comfortable. The Ravens come off a physical, emotional
rivalry game. I like the Chargers plus two and a half.
Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Two and a half is not where the wise guys
like it. They loved it at three. I think if
you're playing at two and a half, you're kind of
tempting fate, right. You would expect this to be a
field goal game. We both love the Chargers. We've talked
about how much we love the Chargers. We've played the
Chargers in multiple spots this season. Defensively they're great, but
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who have they really played. We saw a little bit
of that Achilles heel against the Bengals when the Bengals
did such a good job coming back and probably should
have won that game if not for some really some
bad miss kicks and couple of bad flags and the
Chargers kind of blew it right. So can the Chargers
do to the Ravens what other teams have done all year,
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which has beat them in the second half through the air.
They have the talent, I think where everyone is seeing
what's going on with Lad McConkie and are excited about
him as a connection with Justin Herbert. But the Chargers
have been terrible in the second half this year, so
you're going to have to expect them to do something
they haven't done this year in the second half, which
is convert, and you're gonna have to expect them to
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do it and basically win the game because you're betting
less than the field goal. So at two and a half,
it's just not very sure.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I like the Patriots plus seven and a half a
Dolphins divisional rivalry game. I think Drake may is finding himself.
Miami is one of those teams where you're never quite
sure exactly what you get. They blow more opportunities than
they should. I think Miami wins this game. But this
just feels like an obvious sharp side New England playing hard,
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people playing for stuff here, young team, young coach, young quarterback.
They're not playing like they want the number one pick,
nor do they need it, because they have their quarterback
they're not soft tanking for Shadoor Sanders. You know, they
have to upgrade positions defensive end and wide receiver, and
it's a defensive end wide receiver draft. I like the
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Patriots to play hard, keep it close, Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, this is an eye test game where at seven
and a half the wise guys like the Patriots. There's
no doubt about it. And if you've watched the Dolphins
the past two weeks, they were fine against the Rams.
Their defensive line played great, they got to Matthew Stafford.
But the Rams gave that game away five field goals.
They couldn't score touchdowns. They were missing snaps, they were throwing,
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you know, tipped interceptions. They did not play well. And
if you look at the game against the Raiders last week,
the Dolphins were only up by five points with three
and a half minutes left. There was a miracle defensive
pass interference against the Raiders. They gave the Dolphins the
ball and converted a third down for them instead of
getting the Raiders the ball back. And that was sort
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of the end of the game. And they end up
scoring thirty five points or whatever it is. But they
were up by five points. The Raiders are going to
cover that game, and if they'd gotten the ball back,
potentially won that game. So I just haven't been impressed
with the Dolphins, whereas I have been really impressed with
Drake may He's just a gamer. And I think the
biggest problem for this Patriots team is Gerald Mayo is
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such a conservative play caller. It doesn't seem to really
know how to run the math yet when you're going
for two, should you go for one? When do you
want to go forward? And fourth down? He's coaching like
a defensive coordinator in key sort of pivot spot for
the game, and that's where the biggest challenge comes in
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for the Patriots to cover. But the wise guys, you're
with you. They like the seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I like the Colts at home getting seven and a
half Lions. Remember they have to play on Thanksgiving and
they're you know, they're playing perfect football. The Colts, I
thought Anthony Richardson looked as good as he has ever looked.
I think they've kind of figured out what he is.
Some of that is the Jets aren't very good. But
I've been saying this for a month. I like the
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Colts personnel. I really do. I have both of their lines,
especially their O line. They've got playmakers on the outside.
I could see the Lions looking ahead to Thanksgiving. They're
blowing people out. I'm going to take the Colts plus
seven and a half at home.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Sharper square couldn't be Sharper's sharpest play of the week.
Like the Colts are one of those teams where a
lot of wise guys when they look at this. Certainly,
how I think about it when I'm deciding if I
want to bet one of these ugly dogs, is do
I believe this is sort of the right side from
a number perspective. Is the team they are playing against
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going to have an overinflated number because they're public because
of what they've been doing. The answer to that is, yes,
nobody is winning it a better clip than the Lions.
They are the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl.
That number is naturally going to be bigger. That's number
one great. I like the Cults here. Number two. Do
I believe there's a part of the game where they
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can be dominant. You just mentioned their offensive line, best
run blocking unit in the NFL. Jonathan Taylor has been
playing great, and I think with Anthony Richardson, I think
he played great last week. I think with his ability
to run against a defensive front that cannot get pressure
since Aden Hutchinson, they just can't. Every stat will show
you they are not a team that's getting a lot
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of pressure. So that's number two. I'd like that number three.
There are a ton of trends that back this up,
and sometimes trends can be self fulfilling. But in this case,
like you got teams who are road favorites the game
after being a double digit favorite in any location, they've
had significant against the spread struggles the past decade forty
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three percent against the spread, Teams that are averaging thirty
three plus points in a ninety percent win percentage, those
teams in this scenario thirty two percent against the spread,
and if they are coming off a double digit win,
twenty five percent against the spread. There's a lot of
matchup reasons, there's a lot of inflation reasons, and there's
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trend reasons. So checks out the boxes.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Okay, a game, I want you to talk me into
Broncos minus six at the Raiders. I know it's a
divisional rivalry, but when you have young quarterbacks and young
teams growing in confidence, sometimes the markets behind them. Denver's
a really interesting team right now, so we know their
defense has been exceptional. Bon Nix is making leaps like big,
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no turnovers, moving well. Sean Payton text me this week
and he's like, you know, you, guys, his arm.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Is way better than anybody understands.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Greg co cell echoed that this week, he's like he's
making NFL elite throws down the middle of the field, hard,
deep throws. Arm is not an issue. Talk me into it.
I think the Broncos are the side for me.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Sharper Square.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, that's some of the feedback I've been getting to
this week is Wise guys continue to be really impressed
with the Broncos and feel like they've been emboldened by
that Chiefs loss. And we saw it last week, right
like the Wise guys they were coming all over in
on the on the Broncos. They loved the Broncos in
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that game and that and it matched right like it
was a Falcons team that was coming in and they
were supposed to be a good team and the Broncos
blew them out of the water. Similarly, they're feeling the
same way this week I bet they're about the Raiders.
I think the numbers gotten too high. It's at six,
and that's because the wise guys have been betting it up.
There's no matchup reason to like the Raiders. Like they're
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terrible team. They seem to keep themselves in every game
until Gardner Minshew has some ridiculous turnover. He's got four
lost fumbles this year, which is I think second in
the NFL. He's got I think nine interceptions, which is
third in the NFL, thirteen total turnovers. Like that's the
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script for this game is Gardner Minshew's down by twelve
points double digit something, has a chance to put his
team and get him through the back door, and he
does something that costs his team the game, and you know,
he loses the ball, he fumbles whatever. So you're probably
on the right side, but I think you've lost the
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value in the number.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Okay, and finally give me a game I miss. I
like Kansas City off a loss minus eleven at Carolina,
but all stay away. But I think generally, you know,
Andy Reid doesn't lose. Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose, even though
he's not a great big favorite. Carolina is a bad team,
and Kansas City's pissed off, so I kind of like him,
but give me something else.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
Well, look, it's Kansas City and Carolina, I hate to say, like.
The Wise guys like Carolina here. They like what they've
seen from Bryce Young in the past two weeks that
he played. They like the idea that this is also
a really good run blocking unit and while the Chiefs
run blocking run stopping defense is elite, there's still an
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opportunity here for the Chiefs and if they aren't running
it very well. They have liked what they've seen. The
Wise guys have liked what they've seen from Bryce Young
and his ability to find the right receivers, especially against
the chief secondary that isn't very good. You got to
go on the road win is a double digit favorite.
It's just a bad spot and historically now this year,
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double digit favorites are rushing right, it's been.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
That's my take at the top of this podcast was, yeah,
the separate we're getting to be the NBA. The difference
between Denver and Orlando is significant.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
Yes, So let me give you a couple of stats here.
Then if you're gonna be talking about this because it
helps illuminate it a little bit. So double digit favorites
are five and oh this year, so the first time
they've been undefeated, not against the spread, just undefeated this
late in the year and twenty seasons, only the second
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time in the past forty seasons. Here's how extraordinary this is.
Though they are undefeated against the spread. For that, you
have to go back to nineteen fifty. That is the
last time double digit favorites were undefeated against the spread
through eleven weeks. Let me put this in context for you, Colin.
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The point spread was less than a decade old in
nineteen fifty. It was invented in like nineteen forty one
by a commodities trader in Chicago. So the last time
there was this kind of double digit cover streak was
nineteen fifty, and the spread was an infant. It barely
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existed before. That's how unprecedentre this is.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
People were betting pith helmets and bales of hay.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I mean, that was just.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Exactly and Wooden Nichols, you know, Chad at Milton. Oh yeah,
so they're going to be on this. So but the
point is, the wise guys are going to be on
the panthers. They're going to bet against the trend. Same
thing with the Titans. By the way, they don't love it,
but they're going to bet against how bad the Titans
have been against the spread. They're going to bet against
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the inflation you get from the Texans beating the Cowboys
in prime time. They haven't been impressed. We see j
Stroud this year. They do like the Titans defense. Talk
about unlucky. The Titans seem to shoot themselves in the
foot every week. So if they can get one of
these breaks, that's the difference in a game where the
number is more than a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Chad Melman, good to you, Good see anybody.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Good to see you too. Brother.
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We saw the Texans thump the Dallas Cowboys and I
got my Draft Kings bet right Houston minus four and
a half to cover in the first half.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
First play of the.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Game was actually a touchdown ineligible man downfield. Screw that up,
but they scored Joe Mixon on a big run after
that to take a lead. Never look back. I mean,
the first thing is c J. Stroud has struggled for
about five weeks, and you can tell why. He's got
a bad offensive line and golf. They call it the yips.
He lets go of the ball too quickly. I don't
worry that he's got more interceptions now than he did
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all of last year, because when he had Stefon Diggs
and Nico Collins healthy, he was four and one. He's
still undefeated in division. He's four and four after the
win over Dallas tonight in the rest of their games.
I think the Houston Texans are fine. They're the Green
Bay Packers of the AFC. They're a year away. They
need another draft. They're a little bit thin. The Packers
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are a little young. Texans are a little thin. They
both have good young coaches, really good young quarterbacks. They're
just not ready to beat the Detroits or like the
Buffalo's in Kansas City's. But it's a good team. And
don't I don't take anything away from c J.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
His comp was Jared Goff. Well, if you go back
to Jared Goff's third year in the NFL, that was McVeigh.
His passer rating dip to like mid eighties, high eighties,
and so you know CJ doesn't trust his protection. PFF
has their O line at like twenty six, twenty seventh.
His top receiver, Stefon Diggs is out. Nico Collins came
(02:32):
back tonight. He's been hurt. Nico Collins is amazing. He
went to Michigan. He was a southern kid from I
think Alabama, went to Michigan. Productive, but not a superstar
in college, like mid thirties catches and they got him
in the third round. And boy, he is a hard guard.
He is a hard guy to defend it it you know,
(02:52):
you can tell c J. Stroud and his comp is golf.
So he's not a playmaker. He's a sit in the
pocket and throw darts. When Goff's offensive line great, Jared's great.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
His rookie year, c J.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Stroud had a very good offensive line. He was outstanding.
Goff and Stroud those were the comps by scouts, and
it was accurate. CJ moves a little better. But when
they don't have great protection, they rush things, they throw
more interceptions. They're just not as on point. And I
think that's c J. Stroud just needs better protection. He'll
be fine. I think the Jared Goff comparison's always been true,
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and they have great protection. They're really special.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's interesting though, watching the Cowboys. So the Cowboys right now,
if you go to the current NFL draft order, there's
five teams with two wins, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Las Vegas Giants,
and then there's four teams with three wins, the Jets,
New England, Carolina, and Dallas. Dallas is now at three
and nine, and so the advantage for Dallas is, Listen,
(03:55):
they have a chance to end up with just three
wins now with Cooper Rush. But they played Tommy to
Veto and the Giants on Thanksgiving, and if they win
that game, and I think they will, that'll be their
fourth win. It'll take Dallas out of any shot for
a first, second, or probably third pick in the draft.
It's not a particularly strong draft, and they wouldn't take
(04:15):
Shadu or Sanders anyway. But what I was hoping is
if Dallas can get into the top five and they
still have a shot even if they beat the Giants,
that would be four wins. They also play Carolina. But
if you're Dallas at this point, this is why the
New York Giants are not going to go to Drew Locke.
They're going to Tommy DeVito. They'd rather not win games.
And the Giants have a real shot because I think Jacksonville, Tennessee,
(04:38):
and Cleveland are two talented they'll win another game. If
the Giants get beat by Dallas, there's a real possibility
they don't win another game, and they have the number
one pick, and they will absolutely draft shade or Sanders,
So Dallas. I would draft Shadeur Sanders, but I wouldn't
sign Dack to a long term contract. But Dallas isn't
going to draft him. There's some good players in this draft.
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Umber two pick I think will be Kelvin Banks. He's
an offensive tackle from Texas. Travis Hunter, a very explosive
player from Colorado, will go second or third. Mason Graham,
the defensive tackle Michigan. Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan.
Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU. T Mac the
wide receiver Arizona, really big target, Southern California kid. He's
(05:22):
really good player. Cam Ward is going to go somewhere
in the top ten, although I know little backyard football.
For me, I wouldn't draft him that high. But it's
not a great draft. There's a lot of Mchhale Williams
the defensive edge for Georgia. There's a lot of Georgia
and Michigan guys in the top twelve, top fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Not a great draft.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And listen, if I was Dallas and I got a
top five pick, I would move down because I don't
think they're close to Detroit, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Kansas City. I
don't think their rosters close. I don't think one player
is going to solve it. But if I don't think
this is a good enough draft where people are going
to want to move up unless you have a top
five pick and maybe a top yeah, a top five pick,
(06:06):
and somebody wants cam Ward, who I think is an
okay prospect. I think shud Or Sanders is a strong prospect,
kind of in the Jade and Daniels class. You know,
electric moving, nice arm, very accurate. You know, he's a winner.
He was a winner first year in college. He's a
winner at Colorado. I mean, they're a really good football
(06:27):
team now that can win the Big Twelve. So you know,
Dallas there is This is what happens for the Giants
who reached the do Daniel Jones, the Cowboys who have
overpaid Dak had some injuries. I would strongly consider the
one thing about this draft. It's week at quarterback, it's
strong at wide receiver, and it's strong in the first
(06:49):
round on edge rusher. I would consider moving Micah Parsons.
You know, somebody's going to give you a first round
pick and have to pay him. But you know, there's
there's a lot of teams in this league that are close,
but they could use an elite edge rusher and Mike
go unhealthy is that and you could go draft another
edge rusher and restart the clock on that position. And
(07:11):
there's several. Abdul Carter the edge rusher from Penn State,
it's a top ten pick again, Williams from Georgia, top
ten twelve pick. But I think I think Dallas, you know,
they have to have like a come to Jesus moment.
They're just not very good. I mean, you watch tonight.
You know Ceedee Lamb's an explosive player, but they know
(07:32):
their past protection is just okay. They have the weakest
running back room in the league. They have nothing after
Ceedee Lamb. Of note, they need a lot of help.
Their corners are okay, not special in my opinion. So
I think that's that's where Dallas is. It's not a
year in the NFL draft to want a quarterback. There's one,
(07:54):
and I think you know, listen, Vegas and the New
York Giants both need one. I think Sam Darnold will
probably have a market, a decent market, because I think
Minnesota is gonna I think they've got a chance to
sneak into the playoffs. They're just good enough. But Dallas
has a long way to go. Houston's gonna be fine.
They're gonna be fine. They're gonna get better next year.
I like their coach, their quarterback, their front office, They
(08:16):
got some players. Their old line is just kind of
a mess. A lot of panelies don't pass protect particularly well.
You saw it tonight. They don't pick up blitzes. They
just they just it's a bad unit. But but Dallas
has to really think long and hard. The downside a
mediocre draft like this year is the Cowboys would love
(08:37):
to trade down. This is why I believe they have
to have a top five pick, because the people the
only players that people will trade up for is a
Shadoor Sanders or maybe a cam Ward. There's there's like
one or two great tackles. There's four or five. I
think Mason Graham, the defensive tackle for Michigan's really really special.
(08:58):
He's been unblockable by a single offensive lineman in college football.
You kind of have to double team him, so, you know,
just it's interesting to see all these teams at the
top of the draft. Jacksonville, Tennessee, Cleveland, Vegas. You know,
you're kind of used to them, Jets, Carolina, Then all
of a sudden you go, oh yeah, Dallas, Wow, Dallas.
(09:22):
But you watch the night there's nothing there. So you're
you're seeing something all through college and pro sports. And
it was very noticeable this weekend, you know, the Trump
dance by young NFL players, African American players, white players,
veteran players, Brock Bauers, the young tight end for Las Vegas.
(09:46):
But I was really you know, athletes have a sense
of humor. You know, it's a sport. It's a business,
but it's a sport, and you know, after you score,
you celebrate.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I don't care what players do.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I really don't, but I did think it was interesting
that in soccer, United States men's national team star Christian
Polisic did the Trump dance. And the reason I think
it's surprising is that soccer tends to have a very young,
left leaning audience, and when he did it, I thought,
oh boy, there's going to be a meltdown. And regardless
(10:19):
of where I've always viewed myself really as a moderate independent,
but you can drive yourself crazy all you want. But
the reason the athletes are doing this is because it's
really a quirky, weird, odd dance, and every time Trump
did it, it just looks so outdated. And I think
Trump sort of leans into it now and knows people
(10:40):
get a kick out of it, and it's okay to
take a deep breath. And regardless of what you think
of a politician, it is a three second, four second dance.
They're pro athletes. Take a deep breath, or you can
go into therapy for the next four years. And because
you're side lost and be miserable. You know, sometimes I
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think in politics the greatest advantage conservatives have is people
watching the other side melt down and look crazy and
out of their mind. It's just a dance, it's no
big deal. It's three seconds. Athletes have a sense of humor.
We're all going to be okay on that. But it
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was noticeable to me that when Poolisic did it, I thought, oh,
that's that's surprising. You know, soccer players in the soccer
community have always felt a little European, kind of left leaning,
young stylish.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That's what it's.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Always felt like to me, you know, the hipsters.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I love.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love soccer. You know, I've told the story before.
My mom was British and when I was a kid,
really really young, I was probably six years old, seven
years old, my mom took me to England, and England
was the Netherlands with Johann Croive a great soccer star,
and England where the dominant kind of teams in the world,
and England had won a World Cup back then, and
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my mom bought me a little soccer set and I
can remember playing with it in the window ledge in England, Lancashire,
in the middle of England, where my mom was from,
and so I remember those I had these strong It's
one of the first memories of my life is playing
with this soccer game and Netherlands wore orange, that's their
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country's color, and it was on television. It must have
been around, you know, the World Cup, because that's all
my mom and her twin brother, my late mother and
her twin brother, Peter, that's all they you know, that
was like a big topic of conversation and they went
and got me that soccer game. So I've always been
and then I moved to the Pacific Northwest. You know,
(12:47):
I was from there, the Seattle Sounders, the Portland Timbers,
and then I went there in my career. So I've
always liked soccer, especially the United States men's national team.
But I didn't look at the reactions of their face
when Polistic did that. But I thought, there's gonna be
some melt founds over that. And again, take a deep
(13:10):
breath to four second dance. People are just having fun.
So there's been some concern consternation on where is the
Shaq Barkley Ernie Kenny Johnson show going to go now
that Warner Brothers and TNT has lost the NBA and
this was going to be their last year with him.
(13:31):
So over the course of I think it was late
last week, it was announced in the negotiation between the
NBA and TNT, Adam Silver didn't want TNT involved in it.
Long story, mostly boring. The top executive for Warner Brothers
just pissed off Adam Silver and he no longer wanted
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him associated with the league, and so basically they struck
a deal on ESPN is going to get the show,
The Barkley Shack Show. I actually think it is significant
because in the regular season that show is often more
entertaining than the games in a long NBA regular season,
and I'm a huge fan of Mike Breen. I never
(14:15):
understood breaking up Jeff Van Gundy, Mark Jackson and Mike Breen.
I thought at the time it was easily their strongest
broadcast unit. I didn't get it. Probably political. Van Gundy
had been at times critical of the NBA, so it
felt like Adam Silver stepped in and blew that up.
And it's happened before. I remember when David Stern was commissioner,
(14:37):
I had heard complaints that he wasn't happy with the
I forget the broadcaster one of the broadcasters on ABCESBN
and David Stern had pressured ESPN to make changes. So
but I do think ESPN's NBA coverage for the last
I mean, what do they had the rights twenty twenty
two years. I love Breen, but it's just been a
revolving door of personalities and they've no really stepped up
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and spent big money and got landed a superstar. And
I think this will really cement. I mean, let's be honest,
for years and years, Monday Night Football was kind of
swimming in mediocrity. It's nothing against the broadcasters, but it
never felt as good as like Al Michaels or you know,
the bigger broadcast teams. Jim Nantz and so Buck and
(15:22):
Aikman have solidified Monday night Football. They make it feel
big again. And for years, I just I felt like
it just it didn't feel as big as the Fox
Game of the Week or the Sunday Night Football Game
of the Week, or the CBS Jim Nance Romo.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Game of the Week.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
ESBN felt like Number four and buckan Aikman have elevated it,
and I think ESPN's pre and postgame show has been
really weak, and I mean I mean the halftime shows
like two minutes and commercials.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I mean they don't even care. They're just selling spots.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So I think this will make it more formidable, like
Buckan Akman do. It'll make it feel big. And I think,
if you're Adam Silver, NBC is going to have NBA,
ESPN's going to have NBA, and Amazon's going to have NBA,
but the incumbent is ESPN, and I think it's a
strong play. I think, you know, I love the business
(16:13):
I'm in. I think Jimmy Bataro, who runs ESPN, has
taken big swings. I think Nick Saban, Pat McAfee, Buckan, Aikman,
Shaq Barkley, Jason Kelsey, Bill Belichick. Those are big swings.
And I think is our business. As the market's gotten
wider and wider and wider, it's harder to develop shows.
It's easier to go get widely recognized personalities. To put
(16:37):
a Nick Saban on a game day, and I think
he's been the perfect tonic on that show between all
their other cast just he just clicked with them. And
so I and the reason ESPN has done some big
game hunting. I mean they've really taken some big swings.
Is because for years and years they were swimming in
red with their streaming growth, you know, Disney Disney Plus,
(17:02):
and it was losing you know, four five billion a year.
Will they just turned to profit. This year they made
a billion, and so this point forward, Disney's going to
be making four eight, twelve twenty billion dollars a year
in their streaming. So you know, underneath Disney is ESPN.
And even though cable television is probably got six years left,
(17:26):
seven years left from what I read, Disney's now humming.
So they're taking big swings and they're going buying big
name people as the market has become very very wide,
and it's just it's when people there's so many platforms,
there's so many options. I mean, people are sitting on
TikTok all day. To get attention, you got to go
(17:48):
take big swings. And you know, I think that's what
Shack and Barkley and Kenny and Ernie are. I think
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There's the Alabama quarterback that won a Natty in twenty
ten with a Crimson tide. He's the host of olwa's
College Football Greg McElroy, who we bring on two or
three times a year. The latest college football rankings have
come out BYU is gone. I don't have a problem
with it, I think, and I'm assuming most of you
who listened to my show know what the college football
rankings were. Oregon one, Ohio State two, Texas three, Penn
(20:10):
State four, Not sure I buy Penn State, Indiana five
Notre Dame six, Bama, who I think is better than
advertised at seven, Miami eight. Don't know if I buy him,
Ole Miss nine, Georgia ten, Tennessee, who I had winning
the Natty eleven, and Boise State twelve. So here's let
me just throw this out there. For years and years
I heard Greg Big Ten fans always state, why don't
we have to go south to play our bowl games?
(20:32):
So what's interesting is Georgia would have to go to
Penn State, it's pickham, Ole Miss would have to go
to Indiana, and Alabama would have to go to Notre Dame.
I do think that's an advantage for cold weather teams
over warm weather teams.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Do you absolutely that's a huge deal, especially looking at
the I mean, what did Wisconsin just do this past week?
I mean, and I know that right now it's not
frigid ten temperatures in Madison, but they just got rid
of their air raid style offensive coordinator because it's hard
to throw and to be a pass happy offense in
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November in the Big Ten, well raise it by at
least I don't know, three or four times the intensity
in the playoff setting in December. I mean, look, I've
lived in Cincinnati in New Jersey in my time in
the NFL. The day I left Cincinnati it was minus
thirty two degrees wind chill, and I thought to myself,
I'm never coming back. If I have to retire, I will.
(21:31):
I cannot play in this. We don't even have an
indoor facility at the Bengals. I cannot do it anymore. Ye, So,
long story short, I think you go to Columbus, you
go to Penn State. Depending on the day, it could
be a three to five point advantage in favor of
the home team.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah. No, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So Greg McElroy, as many of you know as a friend,
he and Joel platter people I really like to talk
college football with. They're so prepared, and they both played
the quarterback position. Alabama's fascinating. First of all. Jalen Milroll,
I don't know, and I do this for a living.
I don't know what to make of him as a
(22:07):
pro prospect.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I really like.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Him as a college quarterback. I think he throws a
beautiful deep ball. He's got really like a Russell Wilson
deep ball touch. It's a beautiful ball, incredibly catchable, and
I think kayland Boor. I think we forget that Kaylen
de Boor is a great coach and took over a
great program. But you're instituting your own culture. And I
(22:30):
think Nick was more of a little bit more of
a screamer.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A volume coach like Loud.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
That's not Kayln. He's more of a teacher and a mentor.
So there's an adjustment for the players in Alabama.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's a new way. So they've had a couple of.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Really bad halves, really bad halves, and I'm like, okay,
but I don't care if you're taking if I'm taking
over Nike, it's a great company. I'm trying to change
the culture and institute my worldview. So I think Alabama
now is actually underrated. I think it's gonna I think
by the end of this season, you're going to look
at them and go, God, they're really good. They have
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an NFL first second round quarterback, they have an excellent coach.
But so I'm defending Alabama. My take is they get
cherry picked a little more than most teams because they
lose Nick and they're going to lose some guys in
the portal, and people cherry pick them. It's very hard
to follow Nick Caleb or is Kaylen's learning as he goes.
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Alabama's not Washington, Okay, al The culture's different, the demands
are different, the intensity, the media.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's a relentless job. Washington's not.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They got the Seahawks right down the road. If you lose,
people forget very quickly. I think he's done a great job.
I think Alabama now is underrated. You know the program
better than anybody. Am I overstating what they can do?
I think they can win a Natty. In fact, I
would take them over I would over Georgia. But I
don't think that's I don't think that's the view of
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most experts.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think that they've been a bit of a punching
bag this year, understandably because we chase false gods in sports,
you know, like, do you realize that I don't know.
I mean you cover the NBA. Did Michael Jordan ever
miss a game winning shot? Absolutely not? Because I check
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YouTube highlights and I don't see a lot of misses
on there. Like we chase false gods, and I feel like,
even though we're just one year removed, people will look
at Nick Saban's tenure and they're going to sit there
and think, oh well, he never played close against teams
after a law after a big win, Oh well, he
never had a two point win against South Carolina, who
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at the time was like a five hundred football team.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Oh well, well.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
He never did this, and the realities is not true.
Nick Saban after a win or after a loss, excuse me,
was like eight and fourteen against the spread in the
last five years.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's like it's like nobody are in the last ten
years or something. It was like some absurd number. I mean,
it's it's ridiculous. It's not accurate. The people don't want
to remember that because they just remember the dominance of
the greatness for so long. And that's not disparging Nick
at all. I think he's the greatest coach in the
history of college football. It's just people don't realize that
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he also had teams that had flaws and that had
growing experiences, and I think this team has had that.
And the unfortunate thing about this team is his team
is going to go, or at least it has up
to this point. How their quarterback goes to be. This
quarterback dependent is a challenge. Your best offensive weapon outside
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of Jalen milro is a true freshman who is an
undersized wide receiver that has freak show qualities, but he's
not you know, he's not Megatron. There's going to be
some defensive backs that he has a tough matchup again,
and there's going to be some that he torches. But
he's young. Your running game is really good, and your
offensive line is developing into a star. That is what
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I think is most encouraging about where Alabama's going on
their trajectory. And they're very young on defense with a
new system, and they've played a little better and better
down the stretch too. So I think you're buying low
on Alabama if you buy them now. Can they win
the Natty? I think it's all matchup driven. That's what
I think is cool about where we're going is it's
very matchup driven. But I do think they can do
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it if the things bounce their way in they play
their a game down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So I made the argument the other day, I don't
I thought the win over Penn State. Penn State had
opportunities to win that game, and I'm not saying Penn
State's not worthy of the playoff, but if Indiana beat
Ohio State and Oregon beat Ohio State, in my opinion,
the two best teams they've played, because if Indiana beats
Ohio State, they're for real now they're a thirteen point under.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Doinars probably won't.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But I made the argument is if Ohio State lost
to Oregon in Indiana, man, I that doesn't I mean
that you're certainly not getting a home game from me
in the playoffs. Now what do you make of Ohio State?
I call them the whack a mole team. Every time
I'm watch, something else pops up that worries me. Yeah,
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first it was their defense Oregon. Then it was their
offense Penn State, or it was their offense against Nebraska,
and then it was their quarterback play Will Howard against
Penn State, and I'm like, something's off.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
There's just something.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And by the way, I felt this for the last
two to three years against Michigan, where Michigan had an
absolute identity Nick Saban's team's identity. What is Ohio State
in your eyes?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Beyond talented?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I think they're I ain't. They're a team that wants
to be rugged, but they still have a bun, you
know what I mean? Like they want to be rugged,
but they still have a lot of sport. It's like,
you know, they they have a dirt road that you
have to run in the Big ten to win a championship,
and they can't decide if they want to take their
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you know, Ford F one fifty or their GMC Sierra
or if they just want to say forget it, well,
who cares if we if we blow an axle, like,
let's drive the Ferrari and see what happens. I think
that there is a bit of an identity. Do they
want to be a running team? They want to utilize
quarterback run? Do they want to do they want to
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be a drop back passing team. Are they a team
that wants to work off play action? Like I think
they can do all those things. I think they do
everything well, but they don't do anything elite, and that
to me is a little bit jaw dropping given their personnel.
Like I think they have a good defensive line, I
don't think they have an elite defensive line. Like I
think they have good run stopping defensive ends, but I
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don't think they have defensive ends that scare me to
death and I can put my tackles on one on
one against them in an obvious passing situation. I think
they have really athletic linebackers, and I think those guys
are actually an upgrade from what they've had in the past.
But I also think they can sometimes over pursue and
Oregon hit them with some misdirections to my violation stuff.
I hate they have really good corners, but I also
don't know if those corners have seen elite elite level
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wide receivers outside of that game against Oregon. And guess what,
every team they play in the playoff will likely have
elite level wide receivers. So it's a roundabout way of
saying I think Ohio State has a crazy high ceiling
and if they ever put it all together, it'd be
a special thing for all of us to watch. But
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it's Week eleven. Yeah, what are we waiting for? And
I hope badly it happens this week and not because
of Indiana or anything. I just want to see it.
You don't accumulate that many pros on one roster and
not just want something more. It feels a little bit
like the twenty fifteen team, you know what I mean,
Like when they were in twenty fifteen, they had the
best roster, but they didn't have the best team now,
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and I don't know why that was.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I made this argument. I think to Urban Meyer a
year ago, I said, they're receiving recruiting has been so good.
Brian Hartline, I mean, it's just all five star guys
that even at practice, it's art, it's beautiful, and it's
hard not to be seduced as a head coach when
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you're looking at these incredible first round wide receivers and
you have good backs, not pedestrian, they're good backs. You
have world class receivers. And I think at practice, I
think in game in film rooms, it's literally like putting
ice cream in front of an eight year old. It's like,
I'm going to eat it, even if I know it's
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not good for me. And I think, what's happened. They're receiving.
Recruiting is so good that it's seductive, and they sometimes
whenever they have a bad drive, we're throwing the ball,
We're going to the perimeter, and it's like this happens now,
Saban his recruiting on the perimeter was great as well,
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But the culture of Alabama was really about physicality and
when I thought Michigan separated from Ohio State. It wasn't
better players until the very last team. It was a
better identity and understanding of what they were. Hell, they
beat Penn State. They didn't throw a pass in the
second half on the road. So I think this may
not make sense, but you know a little. You know
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some of this in the NFL. If your best athletes
are on the perimeter, it's seductive. You're going to be
a more finesse football team. Cincinnati, between losing Joe Mixon,
Higgins and Chase, of course you're gonna throw the ball.
It's just it's too appealing not to. And I feel
like with Ohio State, I don't know if they need
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an eight minute drive to kill the clock. Is it
in them running the ball and eating up clock?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Is it in them? I don't know if it is.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I think that's fair. And they're also sometimes when
I when I watch Ohio State, and I felt like
this a little bit like when I watched the Lincoln
Riley led Oklahoma teams. And this is not comparing Ryan
Day to Lincoln Riley. This is not. I just feel
like they look at a six yard gain like it's
a failure, you know what I mean. Like sometimes when
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I watch them, it's like, oh, handoff to Judkins up
the middle, gain of five at second and five, it's
like guys are walking back to the you know, their
heads are hung. It's like that was a great play.
I mean, I just think there is such a pressure
to not just perform at a high level, but to
have a highly intoxicating offense that goes up and down
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the field. But also when you have an offense that
can score fifty, you're hanging your defense out to dry.
So then if you want to lean into your offense,
now everyone's gonna call you soft because that's that's what
people have been saying for the last two years. That's
why you lost to Michigan because you're quote soft. That's
not true. We aren't soft. It just Michigan was the
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better team on that day.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And Michigan last year had better personnel. They were stacked.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It wasn't close. They were significantly more talented. And look
at the.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Draft they that, yeah, there's still more Michigan guys exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
So I just think that I think that I think
Ohio State needs to just stay the course.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
They they're really talented. Don't try to be Michigan that
has a good quarter. Don't try to be Michigan. Don't
try to be pen State. Just don't don't try to
be twenty fifteen Ohio State. Just be you, and you,
the you that you are right now is plenty good
enough to go win a national championship. But I think
it's going to require improved offensive line play, which we've
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seen it's it's been better the last few weeks. I
think it's going to require slightly more aggressive defensive philosophy
with pressures and being able to ramp things up a
little bit. And I think it's going to require them
being a little bit more willing to roll the dice
on the perimeter some of the coverages.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I think.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Don't think you can play quarters all the time beat
beat high level teams. I don't think you can prey
press man all the time beat high level teams. I
just think it's gonna be interesting to watch them. I
think there's plenty of talent in there. I just think
you're right. I think it comes down to identity and
how they want to play into it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Alright. Sharper Square, co host of The Favorites, Chad Millman.
All odds provided by DraftKings. So I had a rant
today on my very popular syndicated radio show Milman.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah, no, I'm familiar, I've I've heard it's big.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
People are talking.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
So my take is what you don't want to become
is the NBA a very strong top, a soft middle,
and ten teams to eleven teams at the bottom that
are unwatchable and non competitive, mostly the Eastern Conference now
and I said, as the NFL has become more quarterback
centric based on a CTE lawsuit and changes of rules
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pivoting to the offense, that we are getting to be
a little nbaish in the NFL. A very strong top
of five or six teams, a pretty soft middle of
like the Seahawks Rams, and nine teams with two or
three wins. Several appear to be soft tanking. And so
I have never been prone to big favorites. But Detroit
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last week at minus fourteen felt like one of the
smarter bets. So the Commander's minus ten and a half.
So I locked it in at ten this week on
the Herd. But I think one teams soft tanking and
one team is fighting for a playoff spot. One team
is now on a backup and not a great backup.
The other team has one of the better rookie quarterbacks
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in a long time. That team's at home playing for something.
I know it's not sharp sharper square, but I like
the commanders here.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, yeah, it's not sharp. The way you said it,
it's like you're waiting for me to tell you. Yeah,
you know what, Colin. The Wise guys are with you.
This is the week where they've decided they love massive
divisional favorites. I'm here to tell you they don't. The
Wise Guys like the Cowboys. And part of this is, yes,
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the number is so big, but there's also some regression
from Jaden Daniels. Right, he was not very good against
the Eagles last week on Thursday Night. In fact, like
since that opening four game stretch where he was completing
eighty percent of his passes, he has yet to complete
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more than seventy percent of his passes in a game,
And so you have to ask yourself, has he started
to come back down to earth. Has teams started to
figure him out? That's really the key to this game.
And look, you can look at what the Cowboys did
last week and say, okay, were they competitive in the
first half? Yes, did Cooper Rush show some flashes of
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being able to be a competitive, too competent quarterback in
the NFL. Certainly more than a lot of other backups
in the league, and frankly a lot of the starters
that we see in the league. But the wise guys
are going to be on the Cowboys here because this
number in a division game is just too big for
a rookie quarterback who's steadily declined as the season has
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gone on. And by the way, the Rookie of the
Year ares odds are a great way to look at that, right,
how much is bo Nicks crept up in behind Jayden
Daniels in the Rookie of the Year conversation? So the
market is starting to recognize some of that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
So I like the Bears plus three and a half
hosting the Vikings. Lost in the blocked kick was that
they thoroughly dominated Green Bay, a well coached team that
they schemed up layups, easy completions. Chicago looked good, they
just didn't finish well. Minnesota. You always talk about the
low ratings. You know, I love Sam Donald, but boy,
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they leave a lot of points on the on the floor. God,
I mean that Jacksonville game was maybe that could have
been forty to ten. I like Chicago. I think they
have limitations, but I watched them against Green Bay and
I like their personnel. Caleb played with confidence. The OC
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change mattered Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
So it's sharp ish. Don't forget this line opened at five.
So the wise guys bet at five, they better at
four and a half, they better at four. They're still
betting it a little bit at three at three and
a half. If it gets any further than this, if
I'm saying to you, you want to publicly announce you
are locking in the Bears at three and a half,
you don't want to say you're on the Bears at three.
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You're not wrong about Sam Donald and how lucky he's been.
In that game against Tennessee last week. They covered the spread,
but not be because of anything Sam Darnold did. He
had two hundred and forty six yards passing forty percent
of his yards in the air, came on three passes, right,
So he is not having a very good sort of
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second half of the season. He's been very lucky. The
problem for me, and this is where I'm like, I challenge.
The wise guy perception on this is they like the
Bears largely because they think that Caleb did what you
just said. He looked better. He was getting rid of
the ball in less than two and a half seconds.
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It's the first time he's been doing that, right, Can
they really block against a Minnesota Vikings defense that is
so much more complex than the Packers Brian Flores destroys
rookie quarterbacks and Caleb Williams this season, when he is
facing a team that has a sack percentage which is
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basically the number of defensive players that end in a sack.
When he was facing a team that is a sack
percent of more than two point two percent, he's one
and six. So you're looking at a guy who is
facing a team that is a sack percentage of five
and a half percent, And a lot of times it's
not even because they're bringing pressure, they're dropping a lot
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of guys into covers. They just confuse the heck out
of offensive lines and young quarterbacks. So to me, that's
really the matchup you have to be careful of. It's
why I'm staying away from this game. I just don't
think there's any value in this number too much bad
quarterback play, too much good defensive play.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Cardinals plus one. Now at the Seahawks. I've said this
for the last year. I'm not sure what Seattle is.
I think they're well coached, I'm not sure of it.
Sometimes they're smartly quarterbacks, sometimes they're not. I think they'll
move dk Metcalf at some point in the near future.
He always seems unhappy. I know exactly what Arizona is great.
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Co Sel said it on my show this week. They
don't outside of Buddha Baker have great defensive personnel. They
are really smartly schemed, and I think this is an
offense that is young in spots that is growing and confidence.
I like teams that have an identity. As the season
goes on. It takes teams time, even the Patriots and
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Julian Edelman has said it took all of our team's
time to find the identity. By week twelve, some teams
still don't have it. Seattle does an Arizona does Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
So it's sharp, but it's been bouncing around. And I
agree with you about the identity. The Cardinals know exactly
who they are right they are even on defense. They
are still a physical football team. James Connor is a
really violent runner, and they know if they are able
to get him the ball and be effective in the
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running game, that makes Kyler that much more effective in
the passing game. And they're just going to be the
better team because of those two players, especially against a
team like the Seahawks, which just last week before the
gaming it's the Niners. They release their leading tackler, like
that tells you how much they don't know who they are.
It is like they're making pretty big personnel moves coming
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out of a buy in advance of a huge division game.
And I would not take anything from the Seahawks win
against the Niners. It's another weird sort of circumstance for
the Niners with Nick Bosa going out. I think that
impacted the game tremendously. So whilse guys are with you,
the Cardinals in Decide, they're you know, pun intended. They're
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putting the cards on the table here right because they
can take significant control of that division coming off a
by with a lot of hype on this team right now,
so it's a big step up game for them.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I like Green Bay at home minus one and a half. Now,
if Bosa doesn't play, this defense is very good. It's
just not. I don't know if it's smartly schemed, it's okay.
Fred Warner's numbers are down. Bosa is really the lynch
pin of the defense, and when he's out and he's
banged up consistently, it's not very good. And I say
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this about Sam Forrancisco, you are what your record is.
They're a five and five football team, and they're not
very good on special teams. They don't get the consistent
pass rush. Rock Purty is fine, he's not the issue.
They miss a deep threat now. Christian McCaffrey is still
not at one hundred percent on the road. Green Bay
the best kind of team to bet. They won and
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played poorly. You can coach them hard. Green Bay's home
minus one and a half.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Sharper square, totally square. The wise guys are all over
the Niners here. The number was a two and a half.
They were kind of waiting on the Brock Party news
because it leaked out that he had a sore shoulder
and was going to be day to day. He practiced
yesterday and looked fine. So it's really not about Nick
Bosa here. Was about brock Purty and the wise guys.
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Look at the Niners. You just mentioned luck. There's no
bigger difference this week in sort of our luck rankings
than the Packers, who are at the top of the
luck rankings with how lucky they've gotten this year in
games They've won a lot of turnover luck, a lot
of blocked kick luck wrapped up in one specific play
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last week. The Niners have had terrible luck, terrible turnovers
at the wrong time, terrible injuries at the wrong time
in multiple games. Right, So you're looking at two teams
that are really diametrically opposite in terms of how things
have played out for them, and you ask a lot
of wise guys and they'll say they have this game
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even on the road at Green Bay Power Raider to pick.
So you're getting a point and a half of value
right now on the Niners. So that's why the wise
guys like them.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Rams didn't look great and I have no home field advantage.
I like Philly minus two and a half. It'll be
a sixty to seventy percent Philadelphia crowd. The Rams defense
is very interesting but incredibly young, and they're kind of
pedestrian on offense with a quarterback that doesn't move particularly well.
I think rosters it's a miss match. It'll be actually
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a semi home field advantage for Philadelphia. They're hummon. I
don't have to love Nick Sirianni. They are hummon. Saquon
Barkley is playing the best football he's ever played in
his life. They're pretty healthy. Eagles minus two and a half.
Kind of surprised at the line. I thought it would
be bigger Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Well, it's not bigger because it keeps bouncing around. There's
no consensus here. We talked about this on the Favorites
today that there's no real wise guy side. They've come
in on the Rams when it's at three. They've come
in on the Eagles when it's at two and a half,
and that's basically how it's going to go. I'm with you.
I love the Eagles here. I've been on the Rams
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the past two weeks. I felt like they were in
good spots against the Dolphins, lost it, in good spots
against the Pats, won it. The offensive line is not
playing well and they're not protecting Matthew Stafford very well,
and the key to this team and you and I
have talked about this. Sean McVay. For all of his
motion and sort of gadgetry, he likes to run the
ball and that's the strength of this team. I don't
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see the Rams being able to run the ball against
the interior defense of the Eagles, who, by the way,
Vic Fangio brilliant defensive coordinator. Since Week five, the Eagles
have gone from twenty seventh in EPA, which is basically
a fancy way of saying how many points they're expected
to give up on defense on a particular play, to first,
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like this defense has finally figured out what he was
trying to teach them and they're locked in In the
back of the secondary. Cooper Deujen is one of the
top rated cover cornerbacks according to Pro Football Focus. That
should have an impact on what can happen with Cooper,
Cupp and pukuin Nukua. So I'm with you. I like
the Eagles here. I think it's a good spot for them.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Ravens off a wildly emotional Pittsburgh game, Go back on
the road. The Chargers, we said this a month ago,
now that they're healthy, are a really good football team.
Special teams, offense, They're resourceful on offense, they are physical
on defense. They're getting two and a half. Baltimore does
not have like a Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco crowd,
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so it will be mostly a Chargers fan base at
home again. Chargers come off a win, feeling good about
themselves and comfortable. The Ravens come off a physical, emotional
rivalry game. I like the Chargers plus two and a half.
Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Two and a half is not where the wise guys
like it. They loved it at three. I think if
you're playing at two and a half, you're kind of
tempting fate, right. You would expect this to be a
field goal game. We both love the Chargers. We've talked
about how much we love the Chargers. We've played the
Chargers in multiple spots this season. Defensively they're great, but
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who have they really played. We saw a little bit
of that Achilles heel against the Bengals when the Bengals
did such a good job coming back and probably should
have won that game if not for some really some
bad miss kicks and couple of bad flags and the
Chargers kind of blew it right. So can the Chargers
do to the Ravens what other teams have done all year,
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which has beat them in the second half through the air.
They have the talent, I think where everyone is seeing
what's going on with Lad McConkie and are excited about
him as a connection with Justin Herbert. But the Chargers
have been terrible in the second half this year, so
you're going to have to expect them to do something
they haven't done this year in the second half, which
is convert, and you're gonna have to expect them to
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do it and basically win the game because you're betting
less than the field goal. So at two and a half,
it's just not very sure.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I like the Patriots plus seven and a half a
Dolphins divisional rivalry game. I think Drake may is finding himself.
Miami is one of those teams where you're never quite
sure exactly what you get. They blow more opportunities than
they should. I think Miami wins this game. But this
just feels like an obvious sharp side New England playing hard,
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people playing for stuff here, young team, young coach, young quarterback.
They're not playing like they want the number one pick,
nor do they need it, because they have their quarterback
they're not soft tanking for Shadoor Sanders. You know, they
have to upgrade positions defensive end and wide receiver, and
it's a defensive end wide receiver draft. I like the
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Patriots to play hard, keep it close, Sharper square.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, this is an eye test game where at seven
and a half the wise guys like the Patriots. There's
no doubt about it. And if you've watched the Dolphins
the past two weeks, they were fine against the Rams.
Their defensive line played great, they got to Matthew Stafford.
But the Rams gave that game away five field goals.
They couldn't score touchdowns. They were missing snaps, they were throwing,
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you know, tipped interceptions. They did not play well. And
if you look at the game against the Raiders last week,
the Dolphins were only up by five points with three
and a half minutes left. There was a miracle defensive
pass interference against the Raiders. They gave the Dolphins the
ball and converted a third down for them instead of
getting the Raiders the ball back. And that was sort
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of the end of the game. And they end up
scoring thirty five points or whatever it is. But they
were up by five points. The Raiders are going to
cover that game, and if they'd gotten the ball back,
potentially won that game. So I just haven't been impressed
with the Dolphins, whereas I have been really impressed with
Drake may He's just a gamer. And I think the
biggest problem for this Patriots team is Gerald Mayo is
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such a conservative play caller. It doesn't seem to really
know how to run the math yet when you're going
for two, should you go for one? When do you
want to go forward? And fourth down? He's coaching like
a defensive coordinator in key sort of pivot spot for
the game, and that's where the biggest challenge comes in
(51:04):
for the Patriots to cover. But the wise guys, you're
with you. They like the seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I like the Colts at home getting seven and a
half Lions. Remember they have to play on Thanksgiving and
they're you know, they're playing perfect football. The Colts, I
thought Anthony Richardson looked as good as he has ever looked.
I think they've kind of figured out what he is.
Some of that is the Jets aren't very good. But
I've been saying this for a month. I like the
(51:30):
Colts personnel. I really do. I have both of their lines,
especially their O line. They've got playmakers on the outside.
I could see the Lions looking ahead to Thanksgiving. They're
blowing people out. I'm going to take the Colts plus
seven and a half at home.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Sharper square couldn't be Sharper's sharpest play of the week.
Like the Colts are one of those teams where a
lot of wise guys when they look at this. Certainly,
how I think about it when I'm deciding if I
want to bet one of these ugly dogs, is do
I believe this is sort of the right side from
a number perspective. Is the team they are playing against
(52:06):
going to have an overinflated number because they're public because
of what they've been doing. The answer to that is, yes,
nobody is winning it a better clip than the Lions.
They are the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl.
That number is naturally going to be bigger. That's number
one great. I like the Cults here. Number two. Do
I believe there's a part of the game where they
(52:27):
can be dominant. You just mentioned their offensive line, best
run blocking unit in the NFL. Jonathan Taylor has been
playing great, and I think with Anthony Richardson, I think
he played great last week. I think with his ability
to run against a defensive front that cannot get pressure
since Aden Hutchinson, they just can't. Every stat will show
you they are not a team that's getting a lot
(52:48):
of pressure. So that's number two. I'd like that number three.
There are a ton of trends that back this up,
and sometimes trends can be self fulfilling. But in this case,
like you got teams who are road favorites the game
after being a double digit favorite in any location, they've
had significant against the spread struggles the past decade forty
(53:11):
three percent against the spread, Teams that are averaging thirty
three plus points in a ninety percent win percentage, those
teams in this scenario thirty two percent against the spread,
and if they are coming off a double digit win,
twenty five percent against the spread. There's a lot of
matchup reasons, there's a lot of inflation reasons, and there's
(53:32):
trend reasons. So checks out the boxes.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Okay, a game, I want you to talk me into
Broncos minus six at the Raiders. I know it's a
divisional rivalry, but when you have young quarterbacks and young
teams growing in confidence, sometimes the markets behind them. Denver's
a really interesting team right now, so we know their
defense has been exceptional. Bon Nix is making leaps like big,
(53:58):
no turnovers, moving well. Sean Payton text me this week
and he's like, you know, you, guys, his arm.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
Is way better than anybody understands.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Greg co cell echoed that this week, he's like he's
making NFL elite throws down the middle of the field, hard,
deep throws. Arm is not an issue. Talk me into it.
I think the Broncos are the side for me.
Speaker 3 (54:22):
Sharper Square.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, that's some of the feedback I've been getting to
this week is Wise guys continue to be really impressed
with the Broncos and feel like they've been emboldened by
that Chiefs loss. And we saw it last week, right
like the Wise guys they were coming all over in
on the on the Broncos. They loved the Broncos in
(54:45):
that game and that and it matched right like it
was a Falcons team that was coming in and they
were supposed to be a good team and the Broncos
blew them out of the water. Similarly, they're feeling the
same way this week I bet they're about the Raiders.
I think the numbers gotten too high. It's at six,
and that's because the wise guys have been betting it up.
There's no matchup reason to like the Raiders. Like they're
(55:08):
terrible team. They seem to keep themselves in every game
until Gardner Minshew has some ridiculous turnover. He's got four
lost fumbles this year, which is I think second in
the NFL. He's got I think nine interceptions, which is
third in the NFL, thirteen total turnovers. Like that's the
(55:31):
script for this game is Gardner Minshew's down by twelve
points double digit something, has a chance to put his
team and get him through the back door, and he
does something that costs his team the game, and you know,
he loses the ball, he fumbles whatever. So you're probably
on the right side, but I think you've lost the
(55:52):
value in the number.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Okay, and finally give me a game I miss. I
like Kansas City off a loss minus eleven at Carolina,
but all stay away. But I think generally, you know,
Andy Reid doesn't lose. Patrick Mahomes doesn't lose, even though
he's not a great big favorite. Carolina is a bad team,
and Kansas City's pissed off, so I kind of like him,
but give me something else.
Speaker 4 (56:12):
Well, look, it's Kansas City and Carolina, I hate to say, like.
The Wise guys like Carolina here. They like what they've
seen from Bryce Young in the past two weeks that
he played. They like the idea that this is also
a really good run blocking unit and while the Chiefs
run blocking run stopping defense is elite, there's still an
(56:34):
opportunity here for the Chiefs and if they aren't running
it very well. They have liked what they've seen. The
Wise guys have liked what they've seen from Bryce Young
and his ability to find the right receivers, especially against
the chief secondary that isn't very good. You got to
go on the road win is a double digit favorite.
It's just a bad spot and historically now this year,
(56:57):
double digit favorites are rushing right, it's been.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
That's my take at the top of this podcast was, yeah,
the separate we're getting to be the NBA. The difference
between Denver and Orlando is significant.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
Yes, So let me give you a couple of stats here.
Then if you're gonna be talking about this because it
helps illuminate it a little bit. So double digit favorites
are five and oh this year, so the first time
they've been undefeated, not against the spread, just undefeated this
late in the year and twenty seasons, only the second
(57:33):
time in the past forty seasons. Here's how extraordinary this is.
Though they are undefeated against the spread. For that, you
have to go back to nineteen fifty. That is the
last time double digit favorites were undefeated against the spread
through eleven weeks. Let me put this in context for you, Colin.
(57:54):
The point spread was less than a decade old in
nineteen fifty. It was invented in like nineteen forty one
by a commodities trader in Chicago. So the last time
there was this kind of double digit cover streak was
nineteen fifty, and the spread was an infant. It barely
(58:18):
existed before. That's how unprecedentre this is.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
People were betting pith helmets and bales of hay.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
I mean, that was just.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Exactly and Wooden Nichols, you know, Chad at Milton. Oh yeah,
so they're going to be on this. So but the
point is, the wise guys are going to be on
the panthers. They're going to bet against the trend. Same
thing with the Titans. By the way, they don't love it,
but they're going to bet against how bad the Titans
have been against the spread. They're going to bet against
(58:45):
the inflation you get from the Texans beating the Cowboys
in prime time. They haven't been impressed. We see j
Stroud this year. They do like the Titans defense. Talk
about unlucky. The Titans seem to shoot themselves in the
foot every week. So if they can get one of
these breaks, that's the difference in a game where the
number is more than a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (59:03):
Chad Melman, good to you, Good see anybody.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Good to see you too. Brother.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
The volume
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