December 9, 2024 • 40 mins
Colin tells you why he was right about the Bears and wrong about Kirk Cousins.
Plus, 3-time Pro Bowler Matt Hasselbeck joins the show to talk about Sam Darnold incredible season as the Vikings stay in contention for the best record for the NFC
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go, it's our two. Matt Hasselbeck in five minutes.
He's been such a great fine for us this year.
Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. Jmac. The twelve team playoff
is out. I cannot figure out how Penn State has
a significantly easier route than Oregon. I would have flipped
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Ohio State and Penn State. I would have given the Buckeyes.
Despite a rough lost to Michigan, they went to Happy
Valley in one. The committee seemed paralyzed by what to
do with SMU and instead hosed Oregon, who had the
best regular season and the best conference championship for four months.
Other than that fun weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Working theory is, hey, we're leaving Alabama.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Out of the playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Let's help the SEC by giving Georgia the easiest path
to the National Championship.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I mean, you could argue.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They screwed Alabama, right, Alabama has more talent than SMU.
Alabama has more five star guys, more future pro more
a better win, better wins.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I don't think Alabama should be in, but you could
argue that they're more better for the television product, which
is what this is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, all right, here we go on a Monday as usual.
Colin right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Matt Stafford I've said before he was better in high school, college,
in first four years in the NFL than Aaron Rodgers,
and he's better now. He was always the most talented
guy in the NFL. In a bad spot, He's only
thirty six. He's got two to three more Super Bowl
runs with his young team. In my opinion, he's still
a complete workhorse. Fifth and path attempts. If they can
protect him for the next three years, there's no reason
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to get enough quarterback on his I mean, how many
people could have beaten Josh Allen last night? Mahomes Stafford
Burrough with a better defense like Stafford's in a completely
elite class.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Where Colin was rough.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I thought the committee, like Jmax said, would choose Alabama.
I think the SEC is certainly good enough to get
four teams. But Alabama lost to Vandy, and by the way,
that Oklahoma game, I still can't figure out. They got
run out of the stadium against an Oklahoma team that
was two and six in the SEC. So nobody to
blame except Alabama. But I just don't think the SEC
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deserves just one more team than the ACC. So I
was surprised.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Kansas City ten and zero, one possession games. I keep
pushing back on their lucky No, it's a business model.
When they called that timeout in the fourth quarter, it
was Matt Naggi, Mahomes and Andy Reid and then threw
to a sitting Travis Kelsey. Is what they do. It
wasn't luck when Brady, Josh McDaniels, Edelman and Grong did it,
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and it's not luck now. Kansas City is great at
it because it's the best quarterback, the best coach, one
of the best tight ends. It's how they win.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'll stop minding the Texas football someday, but it is
does anybody lose games they should win more than Texas.
Georgia was down to a backup, but they had eleven
penalties and that's nineteen penalties in two games against Georgia.
Quinn Ewers, not a huge fan, banged up a lot.
Don't see a lot of special there. They averaged one
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point one yards per rush against Georgia. Georgia couldn't run
the ball in the first half either, but when the
game really mattered, suddenly Georgia, with a backup quarterback, found
a way to run the ball. I have always loved
Texas Sarks a friend. He's very good at what he does.
They recruit at an elite level, but in these big games,
not show that Georgia with better play calling, better decision making,
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with a backup quarterback could win the game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This was my concern for Caleb Williams. I don't trust
the Bears ownership. The executive suite yesterday was embarrassing. Seven
straight losses. I mean they couldn't get the press conference
right when they fired Matt Eberflus. This is the concern. Again.
They had a chance at Jim Harbaugh, but apparently Kevin Warren,
the President, and Harbaugh have a history, and it's not
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a good one. They were out gained three hundred and
nineteen yards to four in the first half. That's beyond bad.
That's embarrassing. Where Colin was right, I defend Kyler Murray
more than anybody. But you know something, and somebody mentioned
this to me a couple of weeks ago. When he
starts poorly, he gets moody, his body language changes. It's
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just a fact. And that game early he played poorly
and it felt like, yeah, it's over. He only has
more only one game all year with over one touchdown pass.
And again, I defend him, but he is five nine
and a half. There was the internet gaming over study issue.
I don't love his body language when he starts slow.
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He's got five picks in the last three games, and
I don't think it's talent. I like Arizona's defensive effort.
I like their coach, I like their weapons. Some of
this my bad is just on Tyler Murray. Where Colin
was right, Robert Sala got fired. I said, you're nuts.
He's the best coach on the staff. Yesterday's a prime example.
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Tua dropped to throw forty seven times, no sacks, barely
got hit. Would that happen with Robert Sala as the
head coach? The Jets are a circus and I never
bought into them as a playoff team, but they're one
in seven since Robert Sala got fired, and they couldn't
get to TUO with their defensive personnel and their corners
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didn't like the firing. Never let the best coach out
of the building.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I thought Kirk Cousins for about a year and a
half was a really good signing as Michael Pennix the
rookie waited and watched, kind of a flack oh Lamar
Jackson thing. But boy, Kirk has aged quickly. Last four games,
zero touchdowns, eight picks. Listen, he's older, he's never been
a dynamic athlete, but I mean in the fourth quarter
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this year and we've seen a little bit of this
Aaron Rodgers. He has a fifty six passer rating. So
I thought Kirk Cousins for a year and a half
until maybe late October next year that handed the Pennix
was the right call. I did not think it would
look like this.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
By December, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I said in preseason, keep your eye on my dark
horse pick for the National Championship. The Tennessee Volunteers only
losses Georgia and on the road at Arkansas. They're ten
and two. They now face Ohio State and Tennessee's defensive
line is the elite and Ohio State's offensive line has
been injured for the last several weeks. Ryan Days on
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the hot seat. Josh Hipel's one of the best young coaches.
I actually think Tennessee is better served facing arguably the
first or second best team be a giant killer early
in this playoff. So Tennessee was my pick for the Natty.
I didn't look very smart middle of the season. I
if I'm Ohio State, this is one of the last
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teams I want to face. Tremendous defensive line against us SO.
So Ohio State banged up offensive line where Colin was right,
where Colin was wrong, And with that, Matt Hasselbeck eighteen
years Super Bowls, three time Pro Bowler joins us.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
SO.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I want to start. And it sounded kind of harsh,
but Mahomes is fourteen and two in games, and when
he puts the cape on and all you guys have
pretty good Yeah, pretty good. And we all know Andy
reads great now Josh Allen's five and six. And I
sat there yesterday and I was happy for Matt Stafford,
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who we both think is great. But I thought, now,
you gotta win these games. You can't have a pump blocked.
It can't be that easy for Matt Stafford. I have
moved to the point where I think they need to
do something if they can't get through, they are really
built to win at all. You got a Kansas City team, Matt,
that can't get their tackles right. What did you make
of the Buffalo loss despite Josh's performance.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, listen, it's like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
I mean, if you've seen that Kansas City Chiefs movie,
I highly recommend it.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
But it's like a happy ending.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
No matter what drama is going on during the day,
they're gonna find a way. And listen, I just think
it's intangibles for Kansas City. It's players that are playing
a group of players playing above the x's and o's
and right now, unfortunately for Josh Allen, he just was
born at the wrong time. I mean, Josh Allen to
me is the MVP this year. He's absolutely incredible, a
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ton of fun to watch. But when you're playing in
the AFC and you're playing the tight game, certain teams
know how to finish and they you just know that
they're going to do it, and other teams are struggling
to learn how.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I thought last night Buffalo had an opportunity, but they
made a couple calculated mistakes that ended up costing them
the game. Now they'll learn from that and they'll be
better for it. But when you talk about Kansas City,
they're just a team that has those intangibles and other
people besides just the quarterback who can rise above.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So there was a moment on the sideline. It was
a big third down late in the game for Kansas City,
and I want you to take me there. It was
Naggie Read and Mahomes and they went over there and
he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like it. And then
they throw to Travis Kelsey who's sitting down. What are
they saying right there? Probably yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
So usually the night before, on that big call sheet,
that Andy Reid call sheet, you'll have fourth and two to.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Win the game. You probably don't have third.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
And seven with under two minutes ago, like, what are
we going to call? But they called a safe play
and Kelsey on that play, he's got what's called a
corner route. A seven route, eight and nine are your
deeper routes in like the passing tree. He's supposed to
go to the back corner of the end zone. He
immediately realizes that it's not there. Andy Reid lets his
star players play within the system with creativity, and he
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knows where his teammates are not going to be. So Kelsey,
being on the same page, being a Hall of Fame player,
puts his own cape on. Mahomes is ready for it,
and he basically runs what equates to a seven stop.
He comes back into the area. Mahomes isn't surprised by it.
Kelsey's confident that he can do it. And this is
just an example of two Hall of Fame players playing
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above the x's and o's quite honestly, the Chargers, you know,
defensive coordinator Minter, he's sitting there, he's got the perfect
play call on, Like they're sitting in the defensive staff
meeting today being like, what would you do different?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Like nothing, we called the perfect call.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
These guys just rows above and you know, I think
some of that is continuity and playing together, but a
lot of it also is a coach like Andy Reid
allow those guys to have some creativity within this, within
the playbook.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So obviously when you watch a Lamar or a Ma
Holmes or like a Brett Farvar and Allen, the talent's incredible.
I could figure it out. Stafford doesn't run around. He's
not gigantic, he's not leaping over people. But it's like
there's a there's an old saying an actor's actor, a
comedian's comedian. I always look at Stafford. I'm like other
quarterbacks must look at him. And God didn't give him
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every gift. He doesn't run around, he's not the biggest guy.
I don't know if I've ever seen a guy make
it look that easy, Like what's his gift?
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, listen, I'm a huge fan. I think he's one
of the best quarterbacks. But I think any franchise quarterback,
if you're able to protect for him like in the past,
like past protection wise, keep the defense off balance, no sacks,
no hits, like that kind of a thing, it'll be
seven on seven for anybody, especially for Matthew Stafford. So
I thought what Sean McVeigh did is he understands what
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the kryptonite is of the Buffalo defense.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
There really aren't that great.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
If you can to run in the ball, like if
you commit to it, you run the ball. I think
that's their kryptonite, and they got to prove that it's not.
They got a tough one against Detroit coming up, and
there's blood in the water and they're coming for it too.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
They're gonna have to prove that they can.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Do that now room no swim moves on a running play,
no spin moves on a running play, You better be
gap sound, and I think that's what the Rams did.
McVeigh using Stafford to get him into the right runs,
using play action, getting changing the launch point for the quarterback.
I mean, they were really doing whatever they wanted to
do last night. But the tendency sometimes is to get
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away from the run when you know you're going up
against the Josh Allen explosive type of type of offense
on the other side. I thought McVeigh and Stafford were
outstanding last night, and now the Buffalo defense has to
prove to the rest of the league, mainly Detroit next
that you know they will basically stop the run first,
which is the goal of most defenses.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So it's interesting with Darnold he can you can let
them walk out the door. And now JJ McCarthy, who
was at a running team in Michigan. He wasn't a
thirty five. I mean they didn't throw the ball at
Penn State on the road. He's talented, but now he
just had a second surgery on his right knee. And
Daniel Jones is more of a backup than a foundational
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quarterback piece. And here's Donald and listen, I know he
can be reckless, but I mean he's had two games
that he didn't play well and now he's got I
think is he have like eleven games with a passer
rating over one hundred. I would franchise tag him. Matt.
I just couldn't let him out of the building. What
do you do if you ran the team?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
First off, on JJ McCarthy, the knee surgery doesn't worry
me at all.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's a meniscus.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
First, you try to, you know, see if you can
do it one way. If it doesn't work, he just
fixed the whole thing. That doesn't concern me. But if
I'm Sam Donald. First of all, if I'm the Vikings,
I try to keep Sam Darnald, no doubt about it.
He's earned it, He's played out standing. If this last
game didn't improve it to you, you know, I don't
know what will. But if I'm Sam Donald, it's not
just about the money, okay, Like you should want to
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stay in Minnesota also you should value what you have
there in a coach, a head coach that understands how
to see things through the quarterback lens.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And I believe he does that. I think that Sam
Donald understands this.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
He was in he was at the New York Jets,
who don't understand how to help a young quarterback. He
was at Carolina, who don't understand how to help a
young quarterback. And then he got a taste of it
in San France and he's like, you know what, there's value,
there's money.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I'd be willing to give up.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
To be something, be in the right place, in the
right offense. And that's how he ended up in Minnesota
in the first place. So now that he's tasted it,
I mean he's already been to kind of that like
quarterback prison. He doesn't want to go back, so if
I'm him, I stay in this kind of an offense
no matter what. And truly, even if you feel a
little disrespected that they haven't come to you with a
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deal yet, I if I'm him, if I'm his friend,
I would say, hey, listen, remember what was like when
you were with the Jets in Carolina.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You might want to take less money to stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, you know, it was almost predictable. Philadelphia's got you know,
they've played very well. They have a big game coming
up here comes Carolina, And listen, you guys are in
you pro athletes. You know who's good and who's not.
You watch the film. I don't expect pro athletes to be,
you know, at the highest apex of their emotions for
seventeen eighteen weeks. That's just I get it. In January.
You are. But you guys watch film and you know
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who can play. But I do think there's something about
Philadelphia that listen. Aj Brown feels like sometimes he leads
the offense. He and Saquon would you be a little
worried about Philadelphia's ability to I mean, if they have
to play catch up fast, Rams could do it, Bills
could do a lot of teams can that passing game,
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it's just not there, and that means if you have
to catch up quick, it can be they'll kill the
clock with Saquon. But do you worry about the AJ Brown,
Jalen Hurts and sort of the pedestrian nature of the
passing game sometimes.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Well, I would just say, on every team, you're gonna
deal with star wide receivers kind of having that like
I don't know, I don't call it diva, but like,
you know, hey I was open, Like, yeah, I know
you were open, but there's there's a bigger situation here,
you know. I would use like Jamar Chase as an example.
I think he's one of the smartest wide receivers in
the game, one of the best receivers in the games,
putting up crazy numbers, but he gets frustrated sometimes because
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there's other things going on around him that he's maybe
not fully aware of. I think the same thing's kind
of happened in Philly. So I think the key right
there is for them to like just stick together.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, would he like to?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Would Aj Brown like to be more explosive in the
passing game?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Sure, I think that'll come for them. I'm still believing
in this team. I just I guess what my point
is is, like, there's gonna be roller coasters of emotions
through throughout the NFL season where guys get frustrated. Can
you stick together? I believe Jalen Hurts is a great leader.
I think Nick Siriani's the perfect coach for this team.
And I think if that that group of guys in
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that locker room sticks together, weather's the storm. Dallas Goddard's
out for a little while. If they can stick together,
I still think the Philadelphia Eagles are alive for that
one seed in the NFC. In the NFC, people are
gonna be all talking about Detroit. I get it, they're great.
They're gonna talk about Minnesota. They're on fire. I get it,
they're great. But don't sleep on Philly. Like I just,
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I really think that this is just the normal ebbs
and flows human nature. Hopefully they learn their lesson for
you know what they did, you know yesterday showing up
in Carolina thinking that they're automatically gonna win because of
the emblem on their helmet. That's not how it goes.
And you know, hopefully they're better for it. But I
think Philly's got some good football ahead of them.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I mean, listen, I think their roster, along with Detroit,
is the best in football. I do want to talk
about this. So you had multiple coaches, and so I
was talking to a friend yesterday, my buddy John Middlecoffee's
a former scout for the Eagles, and I said, if
you look at organizations that are broken, hiring a schematic
wizard doesn't necessarily solve it. What solved it in Detroit
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was a culture builder, Dan Campbell, Ultimate Alpha, and then
he found a schematic guy. The Chargers were broken. Harbaugh
not a schematic whiz, a culture builder. Demiko Ryans had
that reputation as well, tough guy, all business, detail, no nonsense,
could do schematics, but basically hired Bobby Sloweck to take
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care of that. I look at the Bears and I
think this isn't about getting a clever offensive coordinator. I
need a Mike Rabel, I need a I need I
need a Dan Campbell. And you had a variety of coaches,
and you you had some great coaches. But when something's
broken in the NFL, does a schematic guy necessarily solve it?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Listen, there's a there's a lot of things that need
to be fixed in Chicago, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I think the thing you need to get right is
the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
And they've got a very talented quarterback who's not playing
very good football, and so there's a lot of reasons
for that. I think he's got talent around him. But
I think, whoever you are in this case, if we're
talking about Caleb Williams, I think you just need to
look in the mirror and say, Okay, what can I
do to get better? There's a lot that's outside of
his control, but what is in his control and some
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of those things are leadership things. Some of those things
are playing the position. You know, that's the one thing
about being the number one pick overall. You don't get
to choose what franchise you go to. Some of those
things are outside your control. But again I think I
think the way to do it is to, you know,
look in the mirror and focus on what you can control.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Finally, Bill Belichick spent five hours with a chancellor at
North Carolina. I don't see this as a fit. I
was just talking to Jmac. You know, there are mission
impossible and Tom Cruise. The reason it's so great it's
a perfect fit. A physical actor with a lot of
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juice and Michigan and Paul. Not every actor fits that role.
Belichick in college, he didn't cater to Brady. Does this
feel like a fit to you, I would.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Say, I mean, listen, I'm sure Coach Belichick will talk
sometime soon this week and kind of you know, shoot
the record straight or whatever, But yeah, this could work.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Listen. There's a lot of people that are coaching in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
They don't want to go to college because of how
much work it is and the challenge in mil and
transfer portal. We're gonna know soon whether this is real
or not because the college timeline for hiring coaches is
pretty immediate. You got all these guys in the portal
right now, you need a plan sidon they just happened.
I don't think Bill Belichick's afraid of it. And I
think there's one thing that people in the media and
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fans they discount that they should put more stock in,
and that's family. Like if you get the chance to
coach with your son, or coach at a place where
your father used to coach, Like there's some things that
I would just say are kind of like intangible. So
you got Bill Belichick right now, who's out he's not coaching.
You've got his son, Steve Belichick, who's the decordinator for
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Jetfish at.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
The University of Washington.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Like, I could see a scenario where Bill Belichick says,
you know what, I love it.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I can do it.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I've got friends Bill O'Brien who's doing it. I got
friends Nick Saban, I watched do It, Like I can
do this. I like this challenge. I think this is
a sleeping giant. UNC got all the Jordan money. Like
there's a scenario where I think this is real. And
I'm sure most people are like, oh, he's just doing
this to let the rest of the NFL know, Like, no,
I'm serious about coaching. That could be true also, But
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if Bill Belichick wanted to accept this challenge, I think
he'd be up for it. And certainly, you know, he
just seems like one of the people coming from the
NFL that would embrace and could do the whole NIL
poor all the craziness that is college football right now.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
By the way, somebody told me this yesterday. Dion Sanders
has yet to make a single house visit. He's such
a rock star players want to come to see him.
So it's not like Belichick's going to be knocking on
doors and you know, the South trying to find a linebacker.
You know, Bill can stay home and people can visit him.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
And so listen, So much of being a head coach
in college football is like who can you hire, Like
who's coming with you, who believes in you, who believes
that like, oh, shoot, like this would be great for
my career. And there's a whole bunch of coaches that
like learning from the great Bill Belichick or being on
staff with him, or he's not going to do it forever,
so like hey, maybe you know, yeah, pay my dues
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for a couple of years and then I'm moving on up. Yeah,
there's listen. I don't think it's crazy. I think coach Belichick,
you know.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
He's just a football coach.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Shoot, if he wanted to coach lacrosse, he'd be a
good lacrosse coach. He probably succeeded whatever he was doing.
But I think there's something intriguing about this opportunity for him.
And again, I think it comes back to the opportunity
to honor that family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, that's a great, great way to contextualize this, because
I thought it was nonsense. But I get it. He's
kind of in legacy stage. I mean, if you really
think about Bill, he's got the rings on the trophies,
he's called the greatest of all time. He's in legacy stage.
Legacy is family. Matt Hasselbeck eighteen years great seniors always.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Man appreciate it, go on always.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, that's an interesting perspective on that. I'll tell you
that you'd watch the games. I never watched Colorado football much.
I watched the games one more.
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Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I would say this is developing, this Bill Belichick thing.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It's starting to snowball.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
So last week it just appeared like, oh it was
North Carolina. He's talking to them well, apparently he met
with them for five hours yesterday, as you alluded to.
And there's a report claiming that Belichick wants to prove
his coaching legacy at the college level without Tom Brady's
shadow over him. I don't know if that's speculation or
where that's coming from. But in another report, Diana Rassini
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said Belichick would accept the UNC job if offered. That's insane,
and Belichick has had multiple conversations.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
This is where it gets interested Colin.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Where a potential offer would guarantee his son Stephen Belichick
be named head coach in waiting. So there are some
stipulations that they offer Belichick. But wait, there's more. Any
potential staff would include Matt Patricia that's the rocket scientist
who flamed out miserably in Detroit, Ben McDaniels, who's the
brother of Josh McDaniels, as well as a sitting college
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GM who would handle general ops, NIL and recruiting.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
So less stuff for Belichick.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And finally, discussions with UNC are not to gain leverage
over NFL, according to this report, but Belichick is very
surprised he hasn't heard from any NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, he is from a personnel perspective very challenged, and
I think that was I mean, this is what I've
heard from my people in the NFL. Now, my people
tend to be executives, so are they threatened by Bill?
But the take is his last seven drafts in New
England were not good. It's hard to find really good players,
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forget great players, it's hard to find really good players.
In his last six to seven drafts, he reached on
a lot of people. They had the slowest receiving core
in the league, and he drafted three interior linemen and
two kickers. He was tone deaf to the changing culture
of profile fotball.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's fair, could you argue, hey, he just he did
win I believe a Super Bowl or two during that
run of awful drafts.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And we can't get Brady all the credit me get
ready a lot of it obvious. Yah, But Tom succeeded elsewhere.
Bill didn't succeed at all when Tom left.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So this whole like coach in waiting for his son,
where's this coming from?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
A photo emerged of like a young Belichick.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He's like two years old on the UNC campus because
his I guess his dad was coaching there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
In the fifties before he got to one of the
Naval Academy. I believe this has gotten intriguing, Colin. I
don't know if you spent time in North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I had a summer there at summer internship in a
newspaper in Greensboro, and Greensborough's kind of dead.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
There's nothing going on. Every weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I'm in Chapel Hill, Raleigh, cause that's where young people are.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It's fun, it's cool. It's a really nice area.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, I wouldn't cave to Belichick too much because they'll
always be able to get a good coach.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You're North Carolina, dude, Come on, you're at least second
or third or fourth banana in the AC.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Right, you're probably third, but that's still it's a good job.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think this would be really cool for Belichick. I'm
excited for the guy. Next up, Colin. The Philadelphia Eagles.
I love them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
This week they did not cover the spread, another letdown
at home against a bad team, but they.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Won nine straight.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They are eleven and two. One of the issues yesterday
was the passing game. You're looking at highlights here. Yeah,
dude's not getting open. Jalen Hurts passed for one hundred
and eight yards. So I'll tell you one guy who
was not happy. But after the game, Hurt spoke about
the passing game issues.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Some things don't get you until it gets you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's been definitely being some urgency.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
They're trying to figure it out, and you got to
keep keep climbing and trying to progress in it.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
And you got that potion of trying to be on
the same page. Is that a conversation that you're happening
in week thirteen of the season.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
No, why, I was just saying, no, Well, aj Brown,
he's not thrilled, he's not throw Yeah, and we see
this with this position all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What's your takeaway from this game? Do we overreact to
be like, geez Eagles? I mean, if Lagett catches that
deep ball at like the two yard line, Panthers win this. Yeah,
and the Eagles had no shot at the number one seed?
Or was this just a hey, Dallas Goddard, sit this
game out?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know? I tend to think coming off to the Eagles,
when inspired and focused, can beat anybody in football, anybody.
And they weren't entirely ready to roll. I mean from
the very beginning they did not look inspired.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So there, I believe a bottom three offense in almost
every metric in the first quarter. Yeah, now the rest
of the game, they're fine, But who does that fall
upon Colin?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, generally, the first quarter is your McVeigh. Quarter is
your Lafleur. Quarter is your great offensive coordinator quarter. That's scheme.
Second half is roster, second half is your players making plays.
First half tends to be Andy Reid takes a lot
of lead. McVeigh historically leads in the first quarter. Belichick,
by the way, with Brady would get to the first
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quarter of Super Bowls no touchdowns. Why Bill likes to
feel it out. Bill's gonna be a bit more conservative.
Let's not big a big mistake early offensive coaches, your Shanahan,
your mcvay's, the offensive guys, pedals of the medal, aggressive,
twelve plays, let's take a lead. So that tells me
there's some limitations on what they can do on scrit.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't want to overreact here, but lurking at the
potential seven seeds is this San Francisco forty nine ers
after yesterday and they're not done yet.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They play the Rams Thursday. Huge Thursday is a massive.
It may not be Detroit Green Bay, but it's close.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Close.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah. No, it'll be interesting too because the Rams played
a perfect football game, Cooper Cup got dinged up a
little bit, and now they've got to face their division
rival on a really short week. It's a very tough
spot for the Rams. I mean, the Niners were in
cruise control eight minutes left from the second quarter. Yeah,
so they could rest guys.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
So I'm sure some people why are you bringing up
the nine Ers?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, I'm just looking at the way Sirianni has coached
against bad teams and these first quarter struggles and Colin.
I know they've been awesome and I last week said
they were the best team in the league.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I still believe it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I just think if they lose in the first round
or the second round of the playoffs would not shock me.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
If Sirianni is gone. I mean, the guy's not a
great coach. Well, let's be real, I don't do do
you think he's a good coach right now?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't put him in the Peyton read Harbaugh class. No,
I do not signs, not even close.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Final story is Tonight's game is Bengals in Dallas. The
line coming down a little bit seeing five there for
the Bengal Five is a dead number in NFL gambling,
But they are on the road where they should put.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Up a lot of numbers.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
The Dallas defense usually get shredded at home. And now
Joe Burrow comes to town. He leaves the NFL with
thirty passing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
How about Burrow watching Alan Stafford with those rosters, Herbert Mahomes.
You think Joe Burrow's watching those four quarterbacks put on
a clinic yesterday and thinking, I don't have a defense
that could stop a cold. I mean they couldn't stop
the sniffles. I mean it, literally, they can't stop anything.
And I was sitting here watching the game, thinking, does
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Burrow look at this and think, could somebody give me
some help here?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Josh Allen has it once and everybody's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Burrow deals with this crap every week.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Anyways, Micah Parsons has chimed in on Joe Burrow and
said he should be the MVP of the league.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
If Joe Burrow his record is opposite, He'll be the
leader running for MVP.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
So I still think he should be the MVP. I
mean he's leaving passing yards, passing touchdowns the year he's having.
Like Joe Burrow, lsu I think this was a healthy
Joe Burrow looks like.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, well, you gotta win more than four games at
this point. Brew Podcaster hot takes winning. He's been great.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
The numbers are awesome. He can't be MVP on a
losing team, can you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think in baseball, if you put up all time
historic numbers like Otani was doing with the Angels, you
could certainly argue that.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But these aren't historic. These are really really good now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well, and again, when you have a scarcity of games,
you got to be able to win like ten of
the seventeen games, it.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Burrows them for five thousand yards and just fifty five touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Maybe we have a discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He's also Stafford's on fire, Donold's on fire, Allen's on fire.
So there's just too many good quarterbacks out there. Saquon
Barkley won. It wouldn't bother me. There's just too many
good candidates.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Lamar Jackson's having a great year.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, it's in a down year. Maybe he finished.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
You have a pick tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
By the way, five Whenever I see a team favored
by five, I like that team because it means Vegas
doesn't know what to do with it. They'd rather it
be three to three and a half or seven. So
what it tells me is Cincinnati is the better team,
the more functional offense.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I would take them, and I favorite though they have
not been eight this year.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well and at the defense, like you can't trust him
Cooper Russ could come down the field, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I like the over. I bet the over forty nine
and a half. Yeah, I mean Cowboys, guts.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Up anybody for the record, you bet? Who do you
have in Texas Georgia? I had the That was lucky.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I was lucky for you had the over. It didn't it?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I had the over. At halftime, I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Like, was it six nothing or six three six?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm like, what am I watching? I thought the first
half was the worst half of football. If you said
Texas and Georgia, with all your great talent, play the
most boring, uneventful half of football possible, they delivered.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But let me ask you, was that because the games
did not have a ton of meaning with the college
FOOTBA playoffs?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
No, historically that game is.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He Texas needs to win a big game. I thought
it had huge meaning for them.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
They came out with their hair on fire.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I thought they had nineteen penalties in two games against Georgia.
By the way, Quinn Yours is doing himself no favors
for the draft. He is out of the first round.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I keep trying to make a case for him.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's always banged up. I don't see the special that.
I don't get it. Little lou loose for me.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Well, Carson Beck, no shot, Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
On j Mack with a news.
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Speaker 4 (34:14):
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It alficks off Friday at eight eastern on.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, Here's a bunch of hooey. The Alabama Athletic director
was not happy that the Crimson Tide were left out
of the playoff. Athletic Director Greg Burns said he would
need to assess the rigorous non conference schedules going forward
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for Alabama. You mean the rigorous out of conference schedule
that includes Mercer, Western Kentucky, South Florida, and a bad
Wisconsin team this year. What a bunch of nonsense that
is I thought Bama would get in. Nobody can cry
for Bama. First of all, Alabama loves benefiting from the SEC,
(35:08):
the money, the TV revenue, the marketing, the recruiting power.
All those SEC teams love benefiting from it. But the
minute things don't go your way, Bama's like, well, it's
just so rigorous, is it. Tennessee's one of your better teams.
They lost to six and six Arkansas. Bama's one of
your better teams. They got shelled by a bad Oklahoma team.
(35:32):
Give me a break. Not only that, it's like I'm
I'm willing to give somebody a mulligan. Vandy and Oklahoma
beat you, So they need to soften their schedule. What's
weaker than Mercer? I mean, how many more directional schools
can Alabama put on it? You went Western Kentucky. You
want to schedule Eastern Kentucky too? So And the other
(35:53):
thing is the SEC only plays eight conference games. The
Big Ten plays nine conference games, all right, so don't
give me that. If you want to schedule three or
four more cupcakes, you go for it. But here's the
earth thing at the top. All these conferences are judged
by the top of the conference. Oregon, Ohio State, and
Penn State at the top of the Big Ten take
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a back seat to nobody. Texas nineteen penalties in two
games against Georgia, and Georgia now is a backup quarterback
and old miss tell me all the big games historically
they've won, So you do, I think it's possible that
the SEC is a little deeper. Who cares. It's all
about getting your best teams into the tournament. And so
(36:35):
the top three teams at the top of the Big Ten,
Ohio State, Oregon, and Penn State are absolutely this year
as good as the top three of the SEC. Let's
remember Texas was favored to win the SEC championship and
laid An Egg couldn't be the backup quarterback. So you know,
(36:56):
I just don't want to hear how oh the schedule
ruling is so rigorous. Greg Byrne Alabama a D. We
have to reassess our out of conference schedule. It can't
get weaker than Mercer, a directional Florida school, a directional
Kentucky school, and Wisconsin A bad Wisconsin team. Well, it's
(37:18):
not our fault. Wisconsin was bad this year. No, but
it's your reality. It didn't have to be your fault.
It's your reality that game, their quarterback got knocked out.
They played with a backup quarterback. So you know, no
tears here for Alabama. By the way, I just you
know't no need to pat myself on the back. But
Sam Donald maybe entering not the portal, the MVP conversation.
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Five touchdowns yesterday, no interceptions yesterday. Matt Hasselback, who knows quarterbacks,
talks about Donald's future in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Well, if I'm the Vikings, I try to keep Sam
narm no doubt about it. He's earned it, He's played outstanding.
If this last game didn't.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Improve it to you, you know, I don't know what will.
But if I'm Sam Darnold, it's not just about the money, Okay,
Like you should want to stay in Minnesota. Also you
should value what you have there in a coach, a
head coach that understands how to see things through the
quarterback Lens.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think that's a really big one, is that you're
not getting Justin Jefferson wherever you go. You're not getting
Kevin O'Connell. You're not getting a great left tackle who
returns next year. There are times I think this situation
for him. The only downside of the Minnesota gig is
the division. So you can win thirteen games in the division,
it does not guarantee anything going forward. I mean, even
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the bad team has a lot of talent Chicago, so
I think this is the And also Sam was a
top pick, so he was paid very well as a rookie.
He made some real money. And Minnesota's always been pretty
well run. They're overshadowed because they play in a division
where green Bay's exceptionally run. But Minnesota's got a great
home field advantage. It's a wonderful place to live. It's
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a three and a half hour flight back to you know,
his beloved Los Angeles, great fans, nice roster. There are
worst places in this league to play it in the Minnesota,
nice area, great fans. And again, if green Bay doesn't
land Farvan Rogers, I think we'd look at Minnesota differently.
(39:24):
They're always well run, Minnesota's you're not getting Justin Jefferson
and Jordan Addison. To me, that's the best combo in
the league. Jamar Chase T. Higgins and then Jefferson, Jordan Andison,
and then I get Hawkinson. And it's been an organization
that's been willing to spend money. They're not cheap. They've
spent money on coaches. I think I think sometimes I
(39:44):
think in this instance, Sam Donald and Minnesota works. And
also I think in life, when you've been burned by
something bad coaching the Jets in Carolina, you really appreciate landing.
I mean, Sam Donald can't wipe the smile off his
face time he's in front of the camera. He's just,
oh my god, so happy here. Maybe take just a
(40:06):
smidge left. I couldn't be happier for him. I remember
a young sportscaster calling his shot on Darnold years ago.
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Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making
us part of your day. Jmac. The twelve team playoff
is out. I cannot figure out how Penn State has
a significantly easier route than Oregon. I would have flipped
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Ohio State and Penn State. I would have given the Buckeyes.
Despite a rough lost to Michigan, they went to Happy
Valley in one. The committee seemed paralyzed by what to
do with SMU and instead hosed Oregon, who had the
best regular season and the best conference championship for four months.
Other than that fun weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Working theory is, hey, we're leaving Alabama.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Out of the playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Let's help the SEC by giving Georgia the easiest path
to the National Championship.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I mean, you could argue.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
They screwed Alabama, right, Alabama has more talent than SMU.
Alabama has more five star guys, more future pro more
a better win, better wins.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I don't think Alabama should be in, but you could
argue that they're more better for the television product, which
is what this is.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, all right, here we go on a Monday as usual.
Colin right, Colin wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Matt Stafford I've said before he was better in high school, college,
in first four years in the NFL than Aaron Rodgers,
and he's better now. He was always the most talented
guy in the NFL. In a bad spot, He's only
thirty six. He's got two to three more Super Bowl
runs with his young team. In my opinion, he's still
a complete workhorse. Fifth and path attempts. If they can
protect him for the next three years, there's no reason
(01:59):
to get enough quarterback on his I mean, how many
people could have beaten Josh Allen last night? Mahomes Stafford
Burrough with a better defense like Stafford's in a completely
elite class.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Where Colin was rough.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I thought the committee, like Jmax said, would choose Alabama.
I think the SEC is certainly good enough to get
four teams. But Alabama lost to Vandy, and by the way,
that Oklahoma game, I still can't figure out. They got
run out of the stadium against an Oklahoma team that
was two and six in the SEC. So nobody to
blame except Alabama. But I just don't think the SEC
(02:38):
deserves just one more team than the ACC. So I
was surprised.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Kansas City ten and zero, one possession games. I keep
pushing back on their lucky No, it's a business model.
When they called that timeout in the fourth quarter, it
was Matt Naggi, Mahomes and Andy Reid and then threw
to a sitting Travis Kelsey. Is what they do. It
wasn't luck when Brady, Josh McDaniels, Edelman and Grong did it,
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and it's not luck now. Kansas City is great at
it because it's the best quarterback, the best coach, one
of the best tight ends. It's how they win.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'll stop minding the Texas football someday, but it is
does anybody lose games they should win more than Texas.
Georgia was down to a backup, but they had eleven
penalties and that's nineteen penalties in two games against Georgia.
Quinn Ewers, not a huge fan, banged up a lot.
Don't see a lot of special there. They averaged one
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point one yards per rush against Georgia. Georgia couldn't run
the ball in the first half either, but when the
game really mattered, suddenly Georgia, with a backup quarterback, found
a way to run the ball. I have always loved
Texas Sarks a friend. He's very good at what he does.
They recruit at an elite level, but in these big games,
not show that Georgia with better play calling, better decision making,
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with a backup quarterback could win the game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
This was my concern for Caleb Williams. I don't trust
the Bears ownership. The executive suite yesterday was embarrassing. Seven
straight losses. I mean they couldn't get the press conference
right when they fired Matt Eberflus. This is the concern. Again.
They had a chance at Jim Harbaugh, but apparently Kevin Warren,
the President, and Harbaugh have a history, and it's not
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a good one. They were out gained three hundred and
nineteen yards to four in the first half. That's beyond bad.
That's embarrassing. Where Colin was right, I defend Kyler Murray
more than anybody. But you know something, and somebody mentioned
this to me a couple of weeks ago. When he
starts poorly, he gets moody, his body language changes. It's
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just a fact. And that game early he played poorly
and it felt like, yeah, it's over. He only has
more only one game all year with over one touchdown pass.
And again, I defend him, but he is five nine
and a half. There was the internet gaming over study issue.
I don't love his body language when he starts slow.
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He's got five picks in the last three games, and
I don't think it's talent. I like Arizona's defensive effort.
I like their coach, I like their weapons. Some of
this my bad is just on Tyler Murray. Where Colin
was right, Robert Sala got fired. I said, you're nuts.
He's the best coach on the staff. Yesterday's a prime example.
(05:34):
Tua dropped to throw forty seven times, no sacks, barely
got hit. Would that happen with Robert Sala as the
head coach? The Jets are a circus and I never
bought into them as a playoff team, but they're one
in seven since Robert Sala got fired, and they couldn't
get to TUO with their defensive personnel and their corners
(05:56):
didn't like the firing. Never let the best coach out
of the building.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I thought Kirk Cousins for about a year and a
half was a really good signing as Michael Pennix the
rookie waited and watched, kind of a flack oh Lamar
Jackson thing. But boy, Kirk has aged quickly. Last four games,
zero touchdowns, eight picks. Listen, he's older, he's never been
a dynamic athlete, but I mean in the fourth quarter
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this year and we've seen a little bit of this
Aaron Rodgers. He has a fifty six passer rating. So
I thought Kirk Cousins for a year and a half
until maybe late October next year that handed the Pennix
was the right call. I did not think it would
look like this.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
By December, where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I said in preseason, keep your eye on my dark
horse pick for the National Championship. The Tennessee Volunteers only
losses Georgia and on the road at Arkansas. They're ten
and two. They now face Ohio State and Tennessee's defensive
line is the elite and Ohio State's offensive line has
been injured for the last several weeks. Ryan Days on
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the hot seat. Josh Hipel's one of the best young coaches.
I actually think Tennessee is better served facing arguably the
first or second best team be a giant killer early
in this playoff. So Tennessee was my pick for the Natty.
I didn't look very smart middle of the season. I
if I'm Ohio State, this is one of the last
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teams I want to face. Tremendous defensive line against us SO.
So Ohio State banged up offensive line where Colin was right,
where Colin was wrong, And with that, Matt Hasselbeck eighteen
years Super Bowls, three time Pro Bowler joins us.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
SO.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I want to start. And it sounded kind of harsh,
but Mahomes is fourteen and two in games, and when
he puts the cape on and all you guys have
pretty good Yeah, pretty good. And we all know Andy
reads great now Josh Allen's five and six. And I
sat there yesterday and I was happy for Matt Stafford,
(08:04):
who we both think is great. But I thought, now,
you gotta win these games. You can't have a pump blocked.
It can't be that easy for Matt Stafford. I have
moved to the point where I think they need to
do something if they can't get through, they are really
built to win at all. You got a Kansas City team, Matt,
that can't get their tackles right. What did you make
of the Buffalo loss despite Josh's performance.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, listen, it's like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
I mean, if you've seen that Kansas City Chiefs movie,
I highly recommend it.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
But it's like a happy ending.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
No matter what drama is going on during the day,
they're gonna find a way. And listen, I just think
it's intangibles for Kansas City. It's players that are playing
a group of players playing above the x's and o's
and right now, unfortunately for Josh Allen, he just was
born at the wrong time. I mean, Josh Allen to
me is the MVP this year. He's absolutely incredible, a
(08:56):
ton of fun to watch. But when you're playing in
the AFC and you're playing the tight game, certain teams
know how to finish and they you just know that
they're going to do it, and other teams are struggling
to learn how.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
To do it.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
I thought last night Buffalo had an opportunity, but they
made a couple calculated mistakes that ended up costing them
the game. Now they'll learn from that and they'll be
better for it. But when you talk about Kansas City,
they're just a team that has those intangibles and other
people besides just the quarterback who can rise above.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So there was a moment on the sideline. It was
a big third down late in the game for Kansas City,
and I want you to take me there. It was
Naggie Read and Mahomes and they went over there and
he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like it. And then
they throw to Travis Kelsey who's sitting down. What are
they saying right there? Probably yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
So usually the night before, on that big call sheet,
that Andy Reid call sheet, you'll have fourth and two to.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Win the game. You probably don't have third.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
And seven with under two minutes ago, like, what are
we going to call? But they called a safe play
and Kelsey on that play, he's got what's called a
corner route. A seven route, eight and nine are your
deeper routes in like the passing tree. He's supposed to
go to the back corner of the end zone. He
immediately realizes that it's not there. Andy Reid lets his
star players play within the system with creativity, and he
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knows where his teammates are not going to be. So Kelsey,
being on the same page, being a Hall of Fame player,
puts his own cape on. Mahomes is ready for it,
and he basically runs what equates to a seven stop.
He comes back into the area. Mahomes isn't surprised by it.
Kelsey's confident that he can do it. And this is
just an example of two Hall of Fame players playing
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above the x's and o's quite honestly, the Chargers, you know,
defensive coordinator Minter, he's sitting there, he's got the perfect
play call on, Like they're sitting in the defensive staff
meeting today being like, what would you do different?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Like nothing, we called the perfect call.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
These guys just rows above and you know, I think
some of that is continuity and playing together, but a
lot of it also is a coach like Andy Reid
allow those guys to have some creativity within this, within
the playbook.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So obviously when you watch a Lamar or a Ma
Holmes or like a Brett Farvar and Allen, the talent's incredible.
I could figure it out. Stafford doesn't run around. He's
not gigantic, he's not leaping over people. But it's like
there's a there's an old saying an actor's actor, a
comedian's comedian. I always look at Stafford. I'm like other
quarterbacks must look at him. And God didn't give him
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every gift. He doesn't run around, he's not the biggest guy.
I don't know if I've ever seen a guy make
it look that easy, Like what's his gift?
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Yeah, listen, I'm a huge fan. I think he's one
of the best quarterbacks. But I think any franchise quarterback,
if you're able to protect for him like in the past,
like past protection wise, keep the defense off balance, no sacks,
no hits, like that kind of a thing, it'll be
seven on seven for anybody, especially for Matthew Stafford. So
I thought what Sean McVeigh did is he understands what
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the kryptonite is of the Buffalo defense.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
There really aren't that great.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
If you can to run in the ball, like if
you commit to it, you run the ball. I think
that's their kryptonite, and they got to prove that it's not.
They got a tough one against Detroit coming up, and
there's blood in the water and they're coming for it too.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
They're gonna have to prove that they can.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Do that now room no swim moves on a running play,
no spin moves on a running play, You better be
gap sound, and I think that's what the Rams did.
McVeigh using Stafford to get him into the right runs,
using play action, getting changing the launch point for the quarterback.
I mean, they were really doing whatever they wanted to
do last night. But the tendency sometimes is to get
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away from the run when you know you're going up
against the Josh Allen explosive type of type of offense
on the other side. I thought McVeigh and Stafford were
outstanding last night, and now the Buffalo defense has to
prove to the rest of the league, mainly Detroit next
that you know they will basically stop the run first,
which is the goal of most defenses.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So it's interesting with Darnold he can you can let
them walk out the door. And now JJ McCarthy, who
was at a running team in Michigan. He wasn't a
thirty five. I mean they didn't throw the ball at
Penn State on the road. He's talented, but now he
just had a second surgery on his right knee. And
Daniel Jones is more of a backup than a foundational
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quarterback piece. And here's Donald and listen, I know he
can be reckless, but I mean he's had two games
that he didn't play well and now he's got I
think is he have like eleven games with a passer
rating over one hundred. I would franchise tag him. Matt.
I just couldn't let him out of the building. What
do you do if you ran the team?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Well, a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
First off, on JJ McCarthy, the knee surgery doesn't worry
me at all.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's a meniscus.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
First, you try to, you know, see if you can
do it one way. If it doesn't work, he just
fixed the whole thing. That doesn't concern me. But if
I'm Sam Donald. First of all, if I'm the Vikings,
I try to keep Sam Darnald, no doubt about it.
He's earned it, He's played out standing. If this last
game didn't improve it to you, you know, I don't
know what will. But if I'm Sam Donald, it's not
just about the money, okay, Like you should want to
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stay in Minnesota also you should value what you have
there in a coach, a head coach that understands how
to see things through the quarterback lens.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And I believe he does that. I think that Sam
Donald understands this.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
He was in he was at the New York Jets,
who don't understand how to help a young quarterback. He
was at Carolina, who don't understand how to help a
young quarterback. And then he got a taste of it
in San France and he's like, you know what, there's value,
there's money.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I'd be willing to give up.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
To be something, be in the right place, in the
right offense. And that's how he ended up in Minnesota
in the first place. So now that he's tasted it,
I mean he's already been to kind of that like
quarterback prison. He doesn't want to go back, so if
I'm him, I stay in this kind of an offense
no matter what. And truly, even if you feel a
little disrespected that they haven't come to you with a
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deal yet, I if I'm him, if I'm his friend,
I would say, hey, listen, remember what was like when
you were with the Jets in Carolina.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You might want to take less money to stay in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, you know, it was almost predictable. Philadelphia's got you know,
they've played very well. They have a big game coming
up here comes Carolina, And listen, you guys are in
you pro athletes. You know who's good and who's not.
You watch the film. I don't expect pro athletes to be,
you know, at the highest apex of their emotions for
seventeen eighteen weeks. That's just I get it. In January.
You are. But you guys watch film and you know
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who can play. But I do think there's something about
Philadelphia that listen. Aj Brown feels like sometimes he leads
the offense. He and Saquon would you be a little
worried about Philadelphia's ability to I mean, if they have
to play catch up fast, Rams could do it, Bills
could do a lot of teams can that passing game,
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it's just not there, and that means if you have
to catch up quick, it can be they'll kill the
clock with Saquon. But do you worry about the AJ Brown,
Jalen Hurts and sort of the pedestrian nature of the
passing game sometimes.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Well, I would just say, on every team, you're gonna
deal with star wide receivers kind of having that like
I don't know, I don't call it diva, but like,
you know, hey I was open, Like, yeah, I know
you were open, but there's there's a bigger situation here,
you know. I would use like Jamar Chase as an example.
I think he's one of the smartest wide receivers in
the game, one of the best receivers in the games,
putting up crazy numbers, but he gets frustrated sometimes because
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there's other things going on around him that he's maybe
not fully aware of. I think the same thing's kind
of happened in Philly. So I think the key right
there is for them to like just stick together.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Yeah, would he like to?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Would Aj Brown like to be more explosive in the
passing game?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Sure, I think that'll come for them. I'm still believing
in this team. I just I guess what my point
is is, like, there's gonna be roller coasters of emotions
through throughout the NFL season where guys get frustrated. Can
you stick together? I believe Jalen Hurts is a great leader.
I think Nick Siriani's the perfect coach for this team.
And I think if that that group of guys in
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that locker room sticks together, weather's the storm. Dallas Goddard's
out for a little while. If they can stick together,
I still think the Philadelphia Eagles are alive for that
one seed in the NFC. In the NFC, people are
gonna be all talking about Detroit. I get it, they're great.
They're gonna talk about Minnesota. They're on fire. I get it,
they're great. But don't sleep on Philly. Like I just,
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I really think that this is just the normal ebbs
and flows human nature. Hopefully they learn their lesson for
you know what they did, you know yesterday showing up
in Carolina thinking that they're automatically gonna win because of
the emblem on their helmet. That's not how it goes.
And you know, hopefully they're better for it. But I
think Philly's got some good football ahead of them.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I mean, listen, I think their roster, along with Detroit,
is the best in football. I do want to talk
about this. So you had multiple coaches, and so I
was talking to a friend yesterday, my buddy John Middlecoffee's
a former scout for the Eagles, and I said, if
you look at organizations that are broken, hiring a schematic
wizard doesn't necessarily solve it. What solved it in Detroit
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was a culture builder, Dan Campbell, Ultimate Alpha, and then
he found a schematic guy. The Chargers were broken. Harbaugh
not a schematic whiz, a culture builder. Demiko Ryans had
that reputation as well, tough guy, all business, detail, no nonsense,
could do schematics, but basically hired Bobby Sloweck to take
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care of that. I look at the Bears and I
think this isn't about getting a clever offensive coordinator. I
need a Mike Rabel, I need a I need I
need a Dan Campbell. And you had a variety of coaches,
and you you had some great coaches. But when something's
broken in the NFL, does a schematic guy necessarily solve it?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Listen, there's a there's a lot of things that need
to be fixed in Chicago, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I think the thing you need to get right is
the quarterback.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
And they've got a very talented quarterback who's not playing
very good football, and so there's a lot of reasons
for that. I think he's got talent around him. But
I think, whoever you are in this case, if we're
talking about Caleb Williams, I think you just need to
look in the mirror and say, Okay, what can I
do to get better? There's a lot that's outside of
his control, but what is in his control and some
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of those things are leadership things. Some of those things
are playing the position. You know, that's the one thing
about being the number one pick overall. You don't get
to choose what franchise you go to. Some of those
things are outside your control. But again I think I
think the way to do it is to, you know,
look in the mirror and focus on what you can control.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Finally, Bill Belichick spent five hours with a chancellor at
North Carolina. I don't see this as a fit. I
was just talking to Jmac. You know, there are mission
impossible and Tom Cruise. The reason it's so great it's
a perfect fit. A physical actor with a lot of
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juice and Michigan and Paul. Not every actor fits that role.
Belichick in college, he didn't cater to Brady. Does this
feel like a fit to you, I would.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Say, I mean, listen, I'm sure Coach Belichick will talk
sometime soon this week and kind of you know, shoot
the record straight or whatever, But yeah, this could work.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Listen. There's a lot of people that are coaching in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
They don't want to go to college because of how
much work it is and the challenge in mil and
transfer portal. We're gonna know soon whether this is real
or not because the college timeline for hiring coaches is
pretty immediate. You got all these guys in the portal
right now, you need a plan sidon they just happened.
I don't think Bill Belichick's afraid of it. And I
think there's one thing that people in the media and
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fans they discount that they should put more stock in,
and that's family. Like if you get the chance to
coach with your son, or coach at a place where
your father used to coach, Like there's some things that
I would just say are kind of like intangible. So
you got Bill Belichick right now, who's out he's not coaching.
You've got his son, Steve Belichick, who's the decordinator for
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Jetfish at.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
The University of Washington.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Like, I could see a scenario where Bill Belichick says,
you know what, I love it.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I can do it.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
I've got friends Bill O'Brien who's doing it. I got
friends Nick Saban, I watched do It, Like I can
do this. I like this challenge. I think this is
a sleeping giant. UNC got all the Jordan money. Like
there's a scenario where I think this is real. And
I'm sure most people are like, oh, he's just doing
this to let the rest of the NFL know, Like, no,
I'm serious about coaching. That could be true also, But
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if Bill Belichick wanted to accept this challenge, I think
he'd be up for it. And certainly, you know, he
just seems like one of the people coming from the
NFL that would embrace and could do the whole NIL
poor all the craziness that is college football right now.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
By the way, somebody told me this yesterday. Dion Sanders
has yet to make a single house visit. He's such
a rock star players want to come to see him.
So it's not like Belichick's going to be knocking on
doors and you know, the South trying to find a linebacker.
You know, Bill can stay home and people can visit him.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
And so listen, So much of being a head coach
in college football is like who can you hire, Like
who's coming with you, who believes in you, who believes
that like, oh, shoot, like this would be great for
my career. And there's a whole bunch of coaches that
like learning from the great Bill Belichick or being on
staff with him, or he's not going to do it forever,
so like hey, maybe you know, yeah, pay my dues
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for a couple of years and then I'm moving on up. Yeah,
there's listen. I don't think it's crazy. I think coach Belichick,
you know.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
He's just a football coach.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
Shoot, if he wanted to coach lacrosse, he'd be a
good lacrosse coach. He probably succeeded whatever he was doing.
But I think there's something intriguing about this opportunity for him.
And again, I think it comes back to the opportunity
to honor that family dynamic.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, that's a great, great way to contextualize this, because
I thought it was nonsense. But I get it. He's
kind of in legacy stage. I mean, if you really
think about Bill, he's got the rings on the trophies,
he's called the greatest of all time. He's in legacy stage.
Legacy is family. Matt Hasselbeck eighteen years great seniors always.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Man appreciate it, go on always.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, that's an interesting perspective on that. I'll tell you
that you'd watch the games. I never watched Colorado football much.
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Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I would say this is developing, this Bill Belichick thing.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It's starting to snowball.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
So last week it just appeared like, oh it was
North Carolina. He's talking to them well, apparently he met
with them for five hours yesterday, as you alluded to.
And there's a report claiming that Belichick wants to prove
his coaching legacy at the college level without Tom Brady's
shadow over him. I don't know if that's speculation or
where that's coming from. But in another report, Diana Rassini
(24:33):
said Belichick would accept the UNC job if offered. That's insane,
and Belichick has had multiple conversations.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
This is where it gets interested Colin.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Where a potential offer would guarantee his son Stephen Belichick
be named head coach in waiting. So there are some
stipulations that they offer Belichick. But wait, there's more. Any
potential staff would include Matt Patricia that's the rocket scientist
who flamed out miserably in Detroit, Ben McDaniels, who's the
brother of Josh McDaniels, as well as a sitting college
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GM who would handle general ops, NIL and recruiting.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
So less stuff for Belichick.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And finally, discussions with UNC are not to gain leverage
over NFL, according to this report, but Belichick is very
surprised he hasn't heard from any NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, he is from a personnel perspective very challenged, and
I think that was I mean, this is what I've
heard from my people in the NFL. Now, my people
tend to be executives, so are they threatened by Bill?
But the take is his last seven drafts in New
England were not good. It's hard to find really good players,
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forget great players, it's hard to find really good players.
In his last six to seven drafts, he reached on
a lot of people. They had the slowest receiving core
in the league, and he drafted three interior linemen and
two kickers. He was tone deaf to the changing culture
of profile fotball.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's fair, could you argue, hey, he just he did
win I believe a Super Bowl or two during that
run of awful drafts.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And we can't get Brady all the credit me get
ready a lot of it obvious. Yah, But Tom succeeded elsewhere.
Bill didn't succeed at all when Tom left.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So this whole like coach in waiting for his son,
where's this coming from?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
A photo emerged of like a young Belichick.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He's like two years old on the UNC campus because
his I guess his dad was coaching there.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
In the fifties before he got to one of the
Naval Academy. I believe this has gotten intriguing, Colin. I
don't know if you spent time in North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I had a summer there at summer internship in a
newspaper in Greensboro, and Greensborough's kind of dead.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
There's nothing going on. Every weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I'm in Chapel Hill, Raleigh, cause that's where young people are.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It's fun, it's cool. It's a really nice area.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, I wouldn't cave to Belichick too much because they'll
always be able to get a good coach.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You're North Carolina, dude, Come on, you're at least second
or third or fourth banana in the AC.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Right, you're probably third, but that's still it's a good job.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think this would be really cool for Belichick. I'm
excited for the guy. Next up, Colin. The Philadelphia Eagles.
I love them.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
This week they did not cover the spread, another letdown
at home against a bad team, but they.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Won nine straight.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They are eleven and two. One of the issues yesterday
was the passing game. You're looking at highlights here. Yeah,
dude's not getting open. Jalen Hurts passed for one hundred
and eight yards. So I'll tell you one guy who
was not happy. But after the game, Hurt spoke about
the passing game issues.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Some things don't get you until it gets you.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's been definitely being some urgency.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
They're trying to figure it out, and you got to
keep keep climbing and trying to progress in it.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
And you got that potion of trying to be on
the same page. Is that a conversation that you're happening
in week thirteen of the season.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
No, why, I was just saying, no, Well, aj Brown,
he's not thrilled, he's not throw Yeah, and we see
this with this position all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
What's your takeaway from this game? Do we overreact to
be like, geez Eagles? I mean, if Lagett catches that
deep ball at like the two yard line, Panthers win this. Yeah,
and the Eagles had no shot at the number one seed?
Or was this just a hey, Dallas Goddard, sit this
game out?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know? I tend to think coming off to the Eagles,
when inspired and focused, can beat anybody in football, anybody.
And they weren't entirely ready to roll. I mean from
the very beginning they did not look inspired.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So there, I believe a bottom three offense in almost
every metric in the first quarter. Yeah, now the rest
of the game, they're fine, But who does that fall
upon Colin?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, generally, the first quarter is your McVeigh. Quarter is
your Lafleur. Quarter is your great offensive coordinator quarter. That's scheme.
Second half is roster, second half is your players making plays.
First half tends to be Andy Reid takes a lot
of lead. McVeigh historically leads in the first quarter. Belichick,
by the way, with Brady would get to the first
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quarter of Super Bowls no touchdowns. Why Bill likes to
feel it out. Bill's gonna be a bit more conservative.
Let's not big a big mistake early offensive coaches, your Shanahan,
your mcvay's, the offensive guys, pedals of the medal, aggressive,
twelve plays, let's take a lead. So that tells me
there's some limitations on what they can do on scrit.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't want to overreact here, but lurking at the
potential seven seeds is this San Francisco forty nine ers
after yesterday and they're not done yet.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
They play the Rams Thursday. Huge Thursday is a massive.
It may not be Detroit Green Bay, but it's close.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Close.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah. No, it'll be interesting too because the Rams played
a perfect football game, Cooper Cup got dinged up a
little bit, and now they've got to face their division
rival on a really short week. It's a very tough
spot for the Rams. I mean, the Niners were in
cruise control eight minutes left from the second quarter. Yeah,
so they could rest guys.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
So I'm sure some people why are you bringing up
the nine Ers?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, I'm just looking at the way Sirianni has coached
against bad teams and these first quarter struggles and Colin.
I know they've been awesome and I last week said
they were the best team in the league.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I still believe it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I just think if they lose in the first round
or the second round of the playoffs would not shock me.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
If Sirianni is gone. I mean, the guy's not a
great coach. Well, let's be real, I don't do do
you think he's a good coach right now?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't put him in the Peyton read Harbaugh class. No,
I do not signs, not even close.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Final story is Tonight's game is Bengals in Dallas. The
line coming down a little bit seeing five there for
the Bengal Five is a dead number in NFL gambling,
But they are on the road where they should put.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Up a lot of numbers.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
The Dallas defense usually get shredded at home. And now
Joe Burrow comes to town. He leaves the NFL with
thirty passing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
How about Burrow watching Alan Stafford with those rosters, Herbert Mahomes.
You think Joe Burrow's watching those four quarterbacks put on
a clinic yesterday and thinking, I don't have a defense
that could stop a cold. I mean they couldn't stop
the sniffles. I mean it, literally, they can't stop anything.
And I was sitting here watching the game, thinking, does
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Burrow look at this and think, could somebody give me
some help here?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Josh Allen has it once and everybody's like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Burrow deals with this crap every week.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Anyways, Micah Parsons has chimed in on Joe Burrow and
said he should be the MVP of the league.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
If Joe Burrow his record is opposite, He'll be the
leader running for MVP.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
So I still think he should be the MVP. I
mean he's leaving passing yards, passing touchdowns the year he's having.
Like Joe Burrow, lsu I think this was a healthy
Joe Burrow looks like.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, well, you gotta win more than four games at
this point. Brew Podcaster hot takes winning. He's been great.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
The numbers are awesome. He can't be MVP on a
losing team, can you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think in baseball, if you put up all time
historic numbers like Otani was doing with the Angels, you
could certainly argue that.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But these aren't historic. These are really really good now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Well, and again, when you have a scarcity of games,
you got to be able to win like ten of
the seventeen games, it.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Burrows them for five thousand yards and just fifty five touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Maybe we have a discussion.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
He's also Stafford's on fire, Donold's on fire, Allen's on fire.
So there's just too many good quarterbacks out there. Saquon
Barkley won. It wouldn't bother me. There's just too many
good candidates.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Lamar Jackson's having a great year.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, it's in a down year. Maybe he finished.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
You have a pick tonight.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
By the way, five Whenever I see a team favored
by five, I like that team because it means Vegas
doesn't know what to do with it. They'd rather it
be three to three and a half or seven. So
what it tells me is Cincinnati is the better team,
the more functional offense.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I would take them, and I favorite though they have
not been eight this year.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well and at the defense, like you can't trust him
Cooper Russ could come down the field, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I like the over. I bet the over forty nine
and a half. Yeah, I mean Cowboys, guts.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Up anybody for the record, you bet? Who do you
have in Texas Georgia? I had the That was lucky.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I was lucky for you had the over. It didn't it?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I had the over. At halftime, I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Like, was it six nothing or six three six?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm like, what am I watching? I thought the first
half was the worst half of football. If you said
Texas and Georgia, with all your great talent, play the
most boring, uneventful half of football possible, they delivered.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But let me ask you, was that because the games
did not have a ton of meaning with the college
FOOTBA playoffs?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
No, historically that game is.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
He Texas needs to win a big game. I thought
it had huge meaning for them.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
They came out with their hair on fire.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I thought they had nineteen penalties in two games against Georgia.
By the way, Quinn Yours is doing himself no favors
for the draft. He is out of the first round.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I keep trying to make a case for him.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's always banged up. I don't see the special that.
I don't get it. Little lou loose for me.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Well, Carson Beck, no shot, Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
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Speaker 6 (34:00):
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Speaker 4 (34:14):
This week, Fox College Hoops Friday takes.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Over five times, Indiana go sad to head with Nebraska
on a Big ten showdown.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It alficks off Friday at eight eastern on.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, Here's a bunch of hooey. The Alabama Athletic director
was not happy that the Crimson Tide were left out
of the playoff. Athletic Director Greg Burns said he would
need to assess the rigorous non conference schedules going forward
(34:47):
for Alabama. You mean the rigorous out of conference schedule
that includes Mercer, Western Kentucky, South Florida, and a bad
Wisconsin team this year. What a bunch of nonsense that
is I thought Bama would get in. Nobody can cry
for Bama. First of all, Alabama loves benefiting from the SEC,
(35:08):
the money, the TV revenue, the marketing, the recruiting power.
All those SEC teams love benefiting from it. But the
minute things don't go your way, Bama's like, well, it's
just so rigorous, is it. Tennessee's one of your better teams.
They lost to six and six Arkansas. Bama's one of
your better teams. They got shelled by a bad Oklahoma team.
(35:32):
Give me a break. Not only that, it's like I'm
I'm willing to give somebody a mulligan. Vandy and Oklahoma
beat you, So they need to soften their schedule. What's
weaker than Mercer? I mean, how many more directional schools
can Alabama put on it? You went Western Kentucky. You
want to schedule Eastern Kentucky too? So And the other
(35:53):
thing is the SEC only plays eight conference games. The
Big Ten plays nine conference games, all right, so don't
give me that. If you want to schedule three or
four more cupcakes, you go for it. But here's the
earth thing at the top. All these conferences are judged
by the top of the conference. Oregon, Ohio State, and
Penn State at the top of the Big Ten take
(36:14):
a back seat to nobody. Texas nineteen penalties in two
games against Georgia, and Georgia now is a backup quarterback
and old miss tell me all the big games historically
they've won, So you do, I think it's possible that
the SEC is a little deeper. Who cares. It's all
about getting your best teams into the tournament. And so
(36:35):
the top three teams at the top of the Big Ten,
Ohio State, Oregon, and Penn State are absolutely this year
as good as the top three of the SEC. Let's
remember Texas was favored to win the SEC championship and
laid An Egg couldn't be the backup quarterback. So you know,
(36:56):
I just don't want to hear how oh the schedule
ruling is so rigorous. Greg Byrne Alabama a D. We
have to reassess our out of conference schedule. It can't
get weaker than Mercer, a directional Florida school, a directional
Kentucky school, and Wisconsin A bad Wisconsin team. Well, it's
(37:18):
not our fault. Wisconsin was bad this year. No, but
it's your reality. It didn't have to be your fault.
It's your reality that game, their quarterback got knocked out.
They played with a backup quarterback. So you know, no
tears here for Alabama. By the way, I just you
know't no need to pat myself on the back. But
Sam Donald maybe entering not the portal, the MVP conversation.
(37:44):
Five touchdowns yesterday, no interceptions yesterday. Matt Hasselback, who knows quarterbacks,
talks about Donald's future in Minnesota.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Well, if I'm the Vikings, I try to keep Sam
narm no doubt about it. He's earned it, He's played outstanding.
If this last game didn't.
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Improve it to you, you know, I don't know what will.
But if I'm Sam Darnold, it's not just about the money, Okay,
Like you should want to stay in Minnesota. Also you
should value what you have there in a coach, a
head coach that understands how to see things through the
quarterback Lens.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think that's a really big one, is that you're
not getting Justin Jefferson wherever you go. You're not getting
Kevin O'Connell. You're not getting a great left tackle who
returns next year. There are times I think this situation
for him. The only downside of the Minnesota gig is
the division. So you can win thirteen games in the division,
it does not guarantee anything going forward. I mean, even
(38:41):
the bad team has a lot of talent Chicago, so
I think this is the And also Sam was a
top pick, so he was paid very well as a rookie.
He made some real money. And Minnesota's always been pretty
well run. They're overshadowed because they play in a division
where green Bay's exceptionally run. But Minnesota's got a great
home field advantage. It's a wonderful place to live. It's
(39:03):
a three and a half hour flight back to you know,
his beloved Los Angeles, great fans, nice roster. There are
worst places in this league to play it in the Minnesota,
nice area, great fans. And again, if green Bay doesn't
land Farvan Rogers, I think we'd look at Minnesota differently.
(39:24):
They're always well run, Minnesota's you're not getting Justin Jefferson
and Jordan Addison. To me, that's the best combo in
the league. Jamar Chase T. Higgins and then Jefferson, Jordan Andison,
and then I get Hawkinson. And it's been an organization
that's been willing to spend money. They're not cheap. They've
spent money on coaches. I think I think sometimes I
(39:44):
think in this instance, Sam Donald and Minnesota works. And
also I think in life, when you've been burned by
something bad coaching the Jets in Carolina, you really appreciate landing.
I mean, Sam Donald can't wipe the smile off his
face time he's in front of the camera. He's just,
oh my god, so happy here. Maybe take just a
(40:06):
smidge left. I couldn't be happier for him. I remember
a young sportscaster calling his shot on Darnold years ago.
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