December 13, 2024 • 28 mins
Colin discusses the 49ers loss to the Rams effectively knocking them out of playoff contention and why giving in to diva WRs might have doomed their season. He gives his 5 best NFL bets for week 15. He also talks to 3-time Super Bowl champ Eric Mangini about Bill Belichick becoming the head coach of North Carolina
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Carson Palmer
stops five Blazing five. I love the picks U. Jmac
so many. You know, I gotta tell you this. Next Friday,
Notre Dame, Indiana, the college football playoff starts. See you
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look at this weekend and you're like, well, let's say
it's the calm before the storm, but the la rams
separating from the old Brockster. I'm mentally ready for the
brock Perty slander.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And listen, there's no defense.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He didn't play great.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
What do you want me to do? So, but that's
not the lead story today.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
The lead story is de Bo Samuel, look at me,
take care of me. And that's what the San Francisco
forty nine ers did. Spent the early portions of the
game trying to make sure Deebo is happy, just like
Brandon I. You same thing to the Niners held out
when he came back six games, no touchdowns. Stop pandering
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the wide receivers, forty nine ers, build your O and
D lines. Your best receiver is a seventh rounder who
came into the league with no ego and still doesn't
have one, Juwan Jennings. You start drafting these wide receivers
in the first and second round about a couple of
years in. Get me the ball. De Bo isn't washed,
but he's not what he used to be. And clearly,
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inarguably brock Purty was forcing the ball to Debo Sweeney
to make sure he was okay. Don't be shocked if
AJ Brown and Jalen hurts and they waste a first
half doing the same damn thing as they face the Steelers,
and if Pittsburgh wins in Philadelphia's first quarter and a half,
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is trying to get Aj Brown the ball That's what
happened last night. Brock Purty went into that game. And
in fact I looked this morning. First twelve offensive plays,
four to twelve drawn up for Deebo. You should have
had eight to twelve drawn up for George Kittle. He's
still elite. Kittle's amazing, and you're having to take care
and babysit and coddle. This is not the NBA, it's
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the NFL. You play to win the game. And it
was an ugly night, it was a wet night. Matt
Stafford couldn't do anything right in the first half, but
the Rams came to play a game and win, no agendas.
Not trying to play kid anybody. I mean, listen, Cooper
Cupp could be upset. He's been unseen by Pooka Nakula.
Clearly Cooper Cup blocks as much as he goes out
for a pass. But it was Matt Stafford, Kyron William,
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Sean McVay, Cooper Cup, haven Stein all about winning a game,
no agendas. Stafford had a very bad opening half, right,
I mean, he almost threw about nine picks, but you
know he did. At halftime, They're like, you know what,
let's just run the ball. Let's just run the ball.
Did Puoka get upset? Did anybody pount? Did anybody go
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into the locker room? The Rams came out and said,
it's all about ball, Let's just run the football. Stafford
was off his game, and then eventually Matt a couple
nice escapes, Kyron Williams terrific young player, just a terrific
young player, Blake Corham getting snaps, Pooka Cooper Cup. I mean,
it was just all about football and the Niners. By
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the way, here's another thing about the Niners. That Devondre Campbell,
a linebacker because Drake Greenlaw was healthy, came in and
played and was great, and they let him be the starter,
and Vondre Campbell Pouded refused to go to the game.
In the third quarter, Pouded took his ball and went home.
Can you imagine that? Suddenly, now San Francisco's not just
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old and expensive and brittle. They got a culture issue,
got Debo demanding the ball. You had Brandon Ayuk holding
out a camp You got Campbell the linebacker. Does he
think he's Fred Warner? Does he think he's Drake Greenlaw?
Hafunga Bosa? How many Pro Bowls? I mean give me
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a break. So you know, it was a classic example
of this. By the way, a very young Rams team,
that defense. Nobody's making any money. That Rams team, it's
like a college team. No egos on the road, sloppy
and wet, ugly first half. I think even their kickers
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a rookie. I mean, everybody's young on the Rams except
old Matt Stafford, who was absolutely great when it mattered
the most. But and by the way, the Rams now
are finally healthy. They're getting their tight end. They're number
one tight ends coming back, so the old line's finally healthy.
And by the way, Stafford wasn't sacked. When Stafford isn't sacked,
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the Rams have won ten straight games. So this Ram
team no turnovers last night, no sacks, but more importantly,
no pouting, no taking my ball and going into the
locker room, no building a game plan to play kate
and pander to a wide receiver who's not what he
once was. Here's a couple of the Niners, George Kittle,
who is still amazing in Charvarius Ward talking about Devondre
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Campbell quitting the mid game.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's more of a one person making a like Mooney
set of a selfish decision.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I'm with Mooney on that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And I have never been around anybody it's ever done that,
and I hope I'm never run anybody that does that again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So for him to do that list, that's some st
stow to me, Kamaki like it's going because so and so,
you know it is what he is with day say
this for Devo. Devo didn't go into the locker room.
I had a terrible drop. I could not as a
football coach, I do not believe the culture of the NFL.
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They don't do load management in the NFL. They don't
do that. You play hurt. Everybody's hurt by week three.
Everybody's backup quarterbacks are banged up. For practice, everybody's banged
up in the NFL. The Niners have great linebackers. The
guy that left is their third best linebacker. But to
quit on your team in the middle of it, bye bye,
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take care see you. I mean, Deebo. I don't like
that stuff either, but he's playing. He's not what he
once was. But you can't quit in your team. Can't
do it. Can't do it. Meanwhile, yesterday I came on
the show and sometimes I see the comments, you folks
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can be a bit hurtful, I suggested, I thought it
was just reasonable. I am America's honesty broker. I said,
I think Belichick's going to stay one year at Carolina,
get exhausted by the tedium which is known as college athletics,
and go back to the NFL, because I do think
next year he'll get a job offer.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And this is all rehabbing college TV.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So did you see the little addendum in Bill Belichick's
contract the Carolina job. It's it's just a little footnote.
What's that in fine print? Belichick can leave June second
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this year back to the pros. Now he's not going
to this year. Nobody hires a football coach June second,
But Bill Belichick can enter the portal as they say
June second. And that may be a little footnote, little
fine print, but I can sure you the legal teams
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fought over that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Bill demanded.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was in his contract, and Bill got it because
this job the top agents in college football. I noted
this yesterday. Jimmy Sexton's the powerhouse. He's not cented his
best clients for this job because of the administrative chancellor,
academic athletic you know, fissers in the athletic department. So
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basically Belichick can be off tobacco road before he's finished
with his first cigarette. This addendum is not about this year.
He's not going to leave now. My prediction, he'll stay
a year and Belichick goes to the NFL and will
get an offer because there's seven openings a year. And
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Belichick had a quote yesterday he said, it kind of
came to me, this college football thing.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, it did not. It did not come to him.
The NFL left him, and so he's a.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Pro football coach and he he is going to get
an offer next year, in my opinion, and he'll bolt.
And all this for Belichick has been about rehab. So
Brady leaves and win a super Bowl. Belichick looks out
of touch, Matt Patricia to offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So then you go into rehab. So what does he do.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
He gets on TV and Bill smiling. He's fun, He's
got fun stories. He is showing the NFL I'm not
the old kerb Mudge and you think i am. Then
he's got the young girlfriend. He goes to college. He
looks youthful. It's fun. He's again showing the market Hey,
I'm not some old, crusty guy. I'm going to relate
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to kids and the transfer portal. I am here to stay,
except for the fine print. The fine print says he
can get into the portal June second. And you fight
over stuff like that. The legal team spent hours on
stuff like that, sometimes a day or two on stuff
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like that. Here was Belichick yesterday when asked about it.
Belichick basically said, I did not come here.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Just to leave. Then why is that in the contract?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You think he asked for that in Carolina said sure,
we'll pour thirty forty fifty million into it and you
could leave in an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's not the way it works.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I've had a few contract negotiations, so anyway that I
thought was something the details. Always look at the fine
print and there you go. You know it's interesting. I
am going to talk about brock Perty now.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Jason. I want you to get.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Ready, because if I've said before, in our business, you
know this to be true. In our business, you and
I can not love a player and were immediately marginalized
as haters.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like you sometimes you could, like I've always said, I
really really like Jason Tatum and the Celtics. I don't
love him Leyden Games. I think Jalen Brown's the guy
I trust to want the ball more, and he's shown
it as an MVP of the Eastern Conference and of
the Finals, in the two biggest series in the Celtics
in the last decade. Jalen Brown was viewed by the
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team the coaches as the guy that we give the
ball to. So I don't hate Jason Tatum. He's one
of the ten players in the NBA I would start
my franchise with. But I would also put Jalen Brown
on that team too, because he is a killer Laighton
Games and so with a Brock, Purty and Deck. I've
never hated Dak. He is Kirk Cousins with a star
in his helmet. That's what he's always been. He's Kirk
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Cousins with a star in his helmet. You can win
a division, you can go on winning streaks. The intangibles
are amazing, quality guy, smart guy, leadership qualities.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But let's not.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Pretend it's mahomes. See, you can't pay him like mahomes
and truth is both Cousins. In Minnesota. He got paid
more than he was probably really his real value was
and Dak the same. Now the Cowboys are out money,
so that now here's where San Francisco is in a spot.
They haven't written the check yet to their Kirk cousins
or their deck.
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Speaker 1 (12:16):
All right, love the picks, desks on fire almost. I
gotta get this through this thing. The Blazing five is hot.
Here we got.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins Blazing five.
Chief said Browns.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I have the Browns plus four and keep your eye
on a possible upset. Number three offense in the league
since Jameis Winston arrived, and the number two passing offense
Miles Garrett, tied for second in sacks, and the Chiefs
owen seven against the spread in their last seven games
and three straight games decided by a field goal or less.
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Their offense is not delivering big plays in Kansas City,
and Mahomes has been sacked a career high thirty five
times Kansas had He's struggling four points. It's in Cleveland,
Brown's to cover the final twenty eight to twenty seven Chiefs.
I'm taking the.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Points Steelers at egos.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm taking Pittsburgh plus five and a half. They held
that great Brown's offense to fourteen points last week because
they were so great on third down. They are tied
for first in the league in turnover differential. They don't
give it away, but they take it away. Their offense
leads the NFL in time of possession. Their defense is
the second best in the league on third down in
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Russell Wilson since Week seven, top five and six in everything. Meanwhile,
the Eagles Jalen Hurts held under twenty five path attempts
three straight games, kicking issues with Jake Elliott, AJ Brown drama.
Mike Tomlin is the best underdog coach in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Not in opinion of fact. I think it goes down
to the end.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I will take the Eagles to win narrowly again and half.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Way too many points. Take Tomlin and the Steelers here
to cover.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Bills in ligas.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I've flipped. I like Detroit first. They're coming off rest.
The Bills are coming off a highly emotional game with
the Rams. Jared Goff at home last five games seventy
eight percent completion percentage. You thought stafford ate the Bill
secondary alive. Their defense is top three even since the
Hayden Hutchinson injury. The Bills highly emotional on the road again,
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limited practice time. They couldn't practice yesterday because a thirty
feet of snow. So here's a team that has to
go on the road again to the best home team
in the NFL. By the way, the Bills are two
to three against teams with winning records. I thought I
like Buffalo the more I went and looked at this
Jared Goff's last five games.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Detroit to win a great game and cover thirty three
to twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Buccaneers that charge here.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, I really like the Chargers. Tampa Bay's all
beat up. The Chargers, coming off a two point loss
to the Chiefs, had them beat five and two over
their last seven. Their defense is fantastic. It's number one
in the league, fewest touchdowns allowed, number one in the
red zone. It is hard to get into the end
zone on the Chargers and Justin Herbert Holy Molly eleven
straight starts without a pick. That's tied for the longest
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streak in league history. The fucks are beating the Giants, Panthers,
and Raiders Baker Mayfield back to back games with multiple interceptions.
Their defense is not good. This is a mismatch of defenses.
And I get the better quarterback, and I think I
get the better coach, and it's in LA. What don't
I get here? I'm gonna take the Chargers to win it.
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Twenty eight twenty three coach, defense, quarterback, home field.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Edge Packers at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Green Bay is a better team. I'll lay the two
and a half points at Seattle. They're just a better team.
They're coming off extra rest. I love offensive coaches off
extra to rest. They're seven and two since the start
of October, both losses to Detroit. Detroit's pretty good nine
to one when holding opponents under thirty. Seattle's not going
to score thirty points, Josh Jacobs. This is now a
power run team. Four straight games for Jordan Love over
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one hundred passer rating. Like Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. They're saying, listen,
you don't need to throw at thirty eight. We'll throw
at twenty six. Seattle, They're an average home team. Three
and four Gino this year. I know we all love Gino.
Fourteen touchdowns twelve picks hasn't been very effective at home.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
They're beat up in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I like the Packers to win and I like the
Packers to cover in a wildly entertaining game twenty eight
to twenty four. So if you look at my picks again,
I really like these. We're getting down to the home stretch.
I'm taking the Browns and I'm taking the Steelers as dogs.
But I like the Lions, the Chargers and the Packers.
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I think in all those games. Buffalo I liked initially,
but now they can't prack. Now they're off a highly
emotional game. You saw how bad the Rams were in
the first half last night. You can't have teams playing
highly emotional games then crank it up and say, hey,
do that again. And Detroit is absolutely great at home.
That's my Blazing five.
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Speaker 1 (17:19):
Eric Mangini was the head coach of two teams, Jets
and Brown's, joining us live from New York.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Eric, I look at that. I don't even know what
you do. I mean, what do you do to a
player that clips. What would be the solution?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You get rid of them?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, you move on it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
It's bad and on so many levels Colin, because it's
not just that he quit, it's that you go into
the game and you inactivate someone that could have helped you,
and then and then this guy quits when he's supposed
to go in, so you don't even have the replacement
player for it, and he quits during a game that
is close, and that that's your last chance to really
have any shot at the playoffs. I mean, it's it's terrible. Yeah.
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I think you suspend him first and then don't really
give Hi an opportunity to go play anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, all right, Bill Belichick. I thought it was interesting.
It was in the fine print of the contract he
can leave for virtually no penalty June second. Now, he's
not going to leave this year obviously, right, nobody's hiring
a coach, but he may be entering the transfer portal
much sooner than we thought. I've said this, Eric I
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said this. He's a pro football coach ten years ago.
Maybe the NFL left him, not just him leaving the NFL.
He's rehabbing his image he's on television, he's more fun.
Who he's dating, college is younger. I feel like it's
a I feel like it's a rehab. I'm not to
be cynical, but how does it land for you?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, Well, in order for it to be a rehab,
it's got to be successful. And I think the real
edge that Bill has and his staff is going to
have is going to be from from a strategy standpoint.
They're gonna win some games that they shouldn't win. Okay,
because because he's going to be better than some of
the coaches that he's facing, and that's huge, But we
all know that it's not always about the ex's nose.
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It's about the Johnny's and Joe's and whether or not
he can get the players in. Okay, that's one component.
Can you get the players in? And the nil the
money helps because it's not just recruiting. I don't think
he'd have any edge whatsoever from a recruiting standpoint. And
then the second part, which I think is going to
be really challenging Colin is that's a hard program and
in New England, you're under contract. You can't leave. In
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college football with the transfer portal, if those guys don't
like the way it's going, they can leave. So you're
not just recruiting the players once to get in. You
got to keep recruiting them to some degree to keep
them at the at the college. So so it's it's
it's layered there, and that to me, is going to
be a huge challenge for him.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So last night it was very clear the Niners made
a point in their first twelve plays of getting the
ball to Debo to appease him. AJ Brown's complaining about
his touch touches, And I look at it and I'm like, Eric,
if you go in the NFL, if you go to
a game with any other plan than win, if you're
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trying to prove, like Ohio State a couple of weeks
ago played Michigan, they were trying to prove how physical
they were.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Michigan was trying to win.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I look at last night with San Francisco, I
think the training goes off the tracks when you're trying
to get touches for somebody.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
How did you ever deal with that? In the NFL?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh, you'd be You'd be shocked, Colling how often that happens.
Pretty much anywhere there is a wide receiver that has
one of those personalities that's very demanding about about how
much they get the ball and and you know all
the things that go with it, and we've seen it
a thousand times. Inevitably, in that first fifteen play script,
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there's place where he's going to get a touch, and
the touch may not necessarily be because we think that's
the best play. The touch is just so we don't
have to listen and complain on the sideline in the
first quarter until the game gets going, and it's it's disappointing.
The challenging thing for San Francisco is they've got a
young quarterback. So young quarterbacks are even under more pressure
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in the huddle by guys like that, Hey, get me
the ball, give me the ball, give me the ball.
Where when you've got an established veteran, whether it's Stafford
or Brady or take your pick, those guys, those guys
can actually calm the huddle down and calm guys like
that down and not feel the same pressure to force
the ball to him like they obviously were trying to
do last night.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I think the biggest mistake and you can make in
this league you have to know who to pay. But
because quarterbacks are the highest paid. When when you pay
a B to B plus quarterback A plus money, Dallas,
you're trapped. I'll have no problem paying Lamar Jackson then
or out Mahomes, you get no problem. But you can't
go B plus A. You can overpay for a right tackle,
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but you're not paying a right tackle sixty million bucks
a year. I look at Purdy's numbers. We put these
up earlier as a fourth quarter quarterback in his career.
The numbers don't lie. What we first saw from Mahomes
was trailing or leading. He was the best quarterback in
the world. Late Brock Purty isn't what I mean. I
can't give him fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I would rather give franchise Tag Darnold for one year
and get forty million and live for another day.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What do you do with Purty?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, it's it's really hard because look at Dallas. Not
only have they signed Dac you know, the first time,
but then they doubled down on it here this this
past offseason, and I think Jerry was trying to figure
out whether or not he really wanted to make that commitment.
He waited and then it cost him even more. And
the problem that you run into is what are your alternatives?
And San Francisco has done a good job to some
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degree when they went and got Garoppolo. Obviously that worked
out for for a little bit of time, But then
they tried to solve the problem in the draft, and
that's terrible, and that's terrible in in a in a
historic way to some degree how bad that trade was
for for Trey and and and Brock comes in and
saves him. So what's what's your alternative in terms of
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of of getting that quarterback? And maybe Sam a short
term answer is is okay, But but they're trying to
find a longer term answer. And the thing is they
don't really have to do Brock's contract this selfseason. They've
got him for another year. He may not like it,
but they still have them on their contract for another year.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So I have this opinion that sometimes the Green Bay
Packers have a coaching opening, you can go get a
scheme guy. He didn't have to have a history as
a culture guy, because their culture is good. But if
you're the Chargers and you're broken after Brandon Staley or
you know, you're the you're the Lions, you go get
Harbon Campbell, bigger than life, physical presence. They're culture guys.
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They're not scheme wizards. Green Bay. Scheme works, and Matt's
great as he develops into a guy that can change
a culture. I look at the Bears, Eric Mike Rabel
a tough. He's kind of Mike Tomlin tough, no nonsense,
no bs.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Doesn't he feel like the fit with the Bears.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Now I'm a little biased because I really love Mike Rabel.
I think I think not only is he one of
the smartest guys that I've ever coached. From a player perspective,
the type of recall that Mike Rabel had as a
player and the things that he was able to do
not just in terms of his position, but in terms
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of everybody else's position to helped me out the defense
was incredible from a coaching perspective. So now to have
him as a coach bringing that same sort of that
same sort of intelligence and perspective, but also to have
the legitimacy of being a former player, I think that
helps a lot. And then he's had success as a
head coach, so you're not going to go through all
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the learning curves that you that you have with the
new head coach. I look, I think Mike is a
great fit wherever, whatever opportunity he's going to get, and
people should be trying to get him in the mix.
And for him it would be a great situation because
I think Caleb Williams is has a great future.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I really like him. What would you do? Similarly?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think he'd be a great fit with the Jets.
But I would say Mike, there's too much. I think
actually Rex Ryan kind of kind of works there in
a way. He's you know, he knows what he do.
The Jets have a perfect answer. I mean, what do
you what do you do? You got Aaron, Whereas the
Bears have a young quarterback, need to fix the culture.
They got some pieces. The Jets have some pieces. But
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the quarterback situation is, you know, as you have detailed,
is beyond high maintenance. Now what do you do with
that situation?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Well, you've gotta you've got to be honest and objective
in the off season and look at it because he's
gonna cost you a lot of money if he's not there.
So so whoever you bring in, can you sit down,
have a conversation with Aaron and and and have a
strong enough head coach to say, this is the way
we're gonna do it. If you want to be part
of that, that's great. If you don't want to be
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part of that, go ahead and retire so we don't
have to eat all of this dead money and force
him to make a decision. But you get you gotta
get a young quarterback. And I think a young quarterback
with Aaron could be could be a positive thing in
the sense that when Zach Wilson went there, he didn't
have anybody to look up to from from a experience standpoint. Now,
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you don't want necessarily want the some of the other
traits that that Aaron brings the table, but but they're there.
I don't think you just throw it away without really
studying it, analyzing and see if there's some way to
get something positive out of this. A guy that I
like in New York is Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn played
for US at the Jets. He's he's been part of
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that Detroit program. He's a former pro uh player and
very successful. He's tough, So so it's a it's a
nice mix. It's it's a new head coach, different from Vrabel,
but he's a guy with experience in in New York
as a player, and and he brings a mentality from
Detroit that that New York really needs.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's good to seeing you coach. You know, you're
it's you're in New York. You're you're it's like it's
it's you're like a coach. You're our coach at f
S one And I love having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And uh uh.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And I'm taking your Browns to possibly upset the Chiefs
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I don't I don't think that's bad. I don't think
that's bad. That with the the The Janis Winston Show
is fun to watch the Brons do a better job
than you think it at putting pressure on the quarterback.
Mahomes has been hit a ton and they and then look,
they're excited in Cleveland with James easy antithesis of what
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they were dealing with with Deshaun Watson. People love Jameis
with all his flaws. He loves Cleveland, Cleveland loves him.
It's going to be exciting one way or the other.
And to go have a chance to upset Kansas City
in Cleveland this time year. I like it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
If the Browns beat the Chiefs, I don't care what
your schedule is. Get in a flight and go sit
next to Nick. Right Monday, I'll pay to watch it.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Oh my god, yeah, there will be tears.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Great senior coach as always
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Thanks for making us part of your day. Carson Palmer
stops five Blazing five. I love the picks U. Jmac
so many. You know, I gotta tell you this. Next Friday,
Notre Dame, Indiana, the college football playoff starts. See you
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look at this weekend and you're like, well, let's say
it's the calm before the storm, but the la rams
separating from the old Brockster. I'm mentally ready for the
brock Perty slander.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And listen, there's no defense.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He didn't play great.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
What do you want me to do? So, but that's
not the lead story today.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
The lead story is de Bo Samuel, look at me,
take care of me. And that's what the San Francisco
forty nine ers did. Spent the early portions of the
game trying to make sure Deebo is happy, just like
Brandon I. You same thing to the Niners held out
when he came back six games, no touchdowns. Stop pandering
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the wide receivers, forty nine ers, build your O and
D lines. Your best receiver is a seventh rounder who
came into the league with no ego and still doesn't
have one, Juwan Jennings. You start drafting these wide receivers
in the first and second round about a couple of
years in. Get me the ball. De Bo isn't washed,
but he's not what he used to be. And clearly,
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inarguably brock Purty was forcing the ball to Debo Sweeney
to make sure he was okay. Don't be shocked if
AJ Brown and Jalen hurts and they waste a first
half doing the same damn thing as they face the Steelers,
and if Pittsburgh wins in Philadelphia's first quarter and a half,
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is trying to get Aj Brown the ball That's what
happened last night. Brock Purty went into that game. And
in fact I looked this morning. First twelve offensive plays,
four to twelve drawn up for Deebo. You should have
had eight to twelve drawn up for George Kittle. He's
still elite. Kittle's amazing, and you're having to take care
and babysit and coddle. This is not the NBA, it's
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the NFL. You play to win the game. And it
was an ugly night, it was a wet night. Matt
Stafford couldn't do anything right in the first half, but
the Rams came to play a game and win, no agendas.
Not trying to play kid anybody. I mean, listen, Cooper
Cupp could be upset. He's been unseen by Pooka Nakula.
Clearly Cooper Cup blocks as much as he goes out
for a pass. But it was Matt Stafford, Kyron William,
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Sean McVay, Cooper Cup, haven Stein all about winning a game,
no agendas. Stafford had a very bad opening half, right,
I mean, he almost threw about nine picks, but you
know he did. At halftime, They're like, you know what,
let's just run the ball. Let's just run the ball.
Did Puoka get upset? Did anybody pount? Did anybody go
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into the locker room? The Rams came out and said,
it's all about ball, Let's just run the football. Stafford
was off his game, and then eventually Matt a couple
nice escapes, Kyron Williams terrific young player, just a terrific
young player, Blake Corham getting snaps, Pooka Cooper Cup. I mean,
it was just all about football and the Niners. By
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the way, here's another thing about the Niners. That Devondre Campbell,
a linebacker because Drake Greenlaw was healthy, came in and
played and was great, and they let him be the starter,
and Vondre Campbell Pouded refused to go to the game.
In the third quarter, Pouded took his ball and went home.
Can you imagine that? Suddenly, now San Francisco's not just
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old and expensive and brittle. They got a culture issue,
got Debo demanding the ball. You had Brandon Ayuk holding
out a camp You got Campbell the linebacker. Does he
think he's Fred Warner? Does he think he's Drake Greenlaw?
Hafunga Bosa? How many Pro Bowls? I mean give me
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a break. So you know, it was a classic example
of this. By the way, a very young Rams team,
that defense. Nobody's making any money. That Rams team, it's
like a college team. No egos on the road, sloppy
and wet, ugly first half. I think even their kickers
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a rookie. I mean, everybody's young on the Rams except
old Matt Stafford, who was absolutely great when it mattered
the most. But and by the way, the Rams now
are finally healthy. They're getting their tight end. They're number
one tight ends coming back, so the old line's finally healthy.
And by the way, Stafford wasn't sacked. When Stafford isn't sacked,
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the Rams have won ten straight games. So this Ram
team no turnovers last night, no sacks, but more importantly,
no pouting, no taking my ball and going into the
locker room, no building a game plan to play kate
and pander to a wide receiver who's not what he
once was. Here's a couple of the Niners, George Kittle,
who is still amazing in Charvarius Ward talking about Devondre
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Campbell quitting the mid game.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's more of a one person making a like Mooney
set of a selfish decision.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And I'm with Mooney on that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And I have never been around anybody it's ever done that,
and I hope I'm never run anybody that does that again.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So for him to do that list, that's some st
stow to me, Kamaki like it's going because so and so,
you know it is what he is with day say
this for Devo. Devo didn't go into the locker room.
I had a terrible drop. I could not as a
football coach, I do not believe the culture of the NFL.
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They don't do load management in the NFL. They don't
do that. You play hurt. Everybody's hurt by week three.
Everybody's backup quarterbacks are banged up. For practice, everybody's banged
up in the NFL. The Niners have great linebackers. The
guy that left is their third best linebacker. But to
quit on your team in the middle of it, bye bye,
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take care see you. I mean, Deebo. I don't like
that stuff either, but he's playing. He's not what he
once was. But you can't quit in your team. Can't
do it. Can't do it. Meanwhile, yesterday I came on
the show and sometimes I see the comments, you folks
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can be a bit hurtful, I suggested, I thought it
was just reasonable. I am America's honesty broker. I said,
I think Belichick's going to stay one year at Carolina,
get exhausted by the tedium which is known as college athletics,
and go back to the NFL, because I do think
next year he'll get a job offer.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And this is all rehabbing college TV.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So did you see the little addendum in Bill Belichick's
contract the Carolina job. It's it's just a little footnote.
What's that in fine print? Belichick can leave June second
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this year back to the pros. Now he's not going
to this year. Nobody hires a football coach June second,
But Bill Belichick can enter the portal as they say
June second. And that may be a little footnote, little
fine print, but I can sure you the legal teams
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fought over that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Bill demanded.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was in his contract, and Bill got it because
this job the top agents in college football. I noted
this yesterday. Jimmy Sexton's the powerhouse. He's not cented his
best clients for this job because of the administrative chancellor,
academic athletic you know, fissers in the athletic department. So
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basically Belichick can be off tobacco road before he's finished
with his first cigarette. This addendum is not about this year.
He's not going to leave now. My prediction, he'll stay
a year and Belichick goes to the NFL and will
get an offer because there's seven openings a year. And
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Belichick had a quote yesterday he said, it kind of
came to me, this college football thing.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No, it did not. It did not come to him.
The NFL left him, and so he's a.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Pro football coach and he he is going to get
an offer next year, in my opinion, and he'll bolt.
And all this for Belichick has been about rehab. So
Brady leaves and win a super Bowl. Belichick looks out
of touch, Matt Patricia to offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So then you go into rehab. So what does he do.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
He gets on TV and Bill smiling. He's fun, He's
got fun stories. He is showing the NFL I'm not
the old kerb Mudge and you think i am. Then
he's got the young girlfriend. He goes to college. He
looks youthful. It's fun. He's again showing the market Hey,
I'm not some old, crusty guy. I'm going to relate
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to kids and the transfer portal. I am here to stay,
except for the fine print. The fine print says he
can get into the portal June second. And you fight
over stuff like that. The legal team spent hours on
stuff like that, sometimes a day or two on stuff
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like that. Here was Belichick yesterday when asked about it.
Belichick basically said, I did not come here.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Just to leave. Then why is that in the contract?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You think he asked for that in Carolina said sure,
we'll pour thirty forty fifty million into it and you
could leave in an hour.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's not the way it works.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I've had a few contract negotiations, so anyway that I
thought was something the details. Always look at the fine
print and there you go. You know it's interesting. I
am going to talk about brock Perty now.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Jason. I want you to get.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Ready, because if I've said before, in our business, you
know this to be true. In our business, you and
I can not love a player and were immediately marginalized
as haters.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Like you sometimes you could, like I've always said, I
really really like Jason Tatum and the Celtics. I don't
love him Leyden Games. I think Jalen Brown's the guy
I trust to want the ball more, and he's shown
it as an MVP of the Eastern Conference and of
the Finals, in the two biggest series in the Celtics
in the last decade. Jalen Brown was viewed by the
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team the coaches as the guy that we give the
ball to. So I don't hate Jason Tatum. He's one
of the ten players in the NBA I would start
my franchise with. But I would also put Jalen Brown
on that team too, because he is a killer Laighton
Games and so with a Brock, Purty and Deck. I've
never hated Dak. He is Kirk Cousins with a star
in his helmet. That's what he's always been. He's Kirk
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Cousins with a star in his helmet. You can win
a division, you can go on winning streaks. The intangibles
are amazing, quality guy, smart guy, leadership qualities.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But let's not.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Pretend it's mahomes. See, you can't pay him like mahomes
and truth is both Cousins. In Minnesota. He got paid
more than he was probably really his real value was
and Dak the same. Now the Cowboys are out money,
so that now here's where San Francisco is in a spot.
They haven't written the check yet to their Kirk cousins
or their deck.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
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Speaker 1 (12:16):
All right, love the picks, desks on fire almost. I
gotta get this through this thing. The Blazing five is hot.
Here we got.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins Blazing five.
Chief said Browns.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I have the Browns plus four and keep your eye
on a possible upset. Number three offense in the league
since Jameis Winston arrived, and the number two passing offense
Miles Garrett, tied for second in sacks, and the Chiefs
owen seven against the spread in their last seven games
and three straight games decided by a field goal or less.
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Their offense is not delivering big plays in Kansas City,
and Mahomes has been sacked a career high thirty five
times Kansas had He's struggling four points. It's in Cleveland,
Brown's to cover the final twenty eight to twenty seven Chiefs.
I'm taking the.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Points Steelers at egos.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm taking Pittsburgh plus five and a half. They held
that great Brown's offense to fourteen points last week because
they were so great on third down. They are tied
for first in the league in turnover differential. They don't
give it away, but they take it away. Their offense
leads the NFL in time of possession. Their defense is
the second best in the league on third down in
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Russell Wilson since Week seven, top five and six in everything. Meanwhile,
the Eagles Jalen Hurts held under twenty five path attempts
three straight games, kicking issues with Jake Elliott, AJ Brown drama.
Mike Tomlin is the best underdog coach in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Not in opinion of fact. I think it goes down
to the end.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I will take the Eagles to win narrowly again and half.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Way too many points. Take Tomlin and the Steelers here
to cover.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Bills in ligas.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I've flipped. I like Detroit first. They're coming off rest.
The Bills are coming off a highly emotional game with
the Rams. Jared Goff at home last five games seventy
eight percent completion percentage. You thought stafford ate the Bill
secondary alive. Their defense is top three even since the
Hayden Hutchinson injury. The Bills highly emotional on the road again,
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limited practice time. They couldn't practice yesterday because a thirty
feet of snow. So here's a team that has to
go on the road again to the best home team
in the NFL. By the way, the Bills are two
to three against teams with winning records. I thought I
like Buffalo the more I went and looked at this
Jared Goff's last five games.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Detroit to win a great game and cover thirty three
to twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
The Buccaneers that charge here.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, I really like the Chargers. Tampa Bay's all
beat up. The Chargers, coming off a two point loss
to the Chiefs, had them beat five and two over
their last seven. Their defense is fantastic. It's number one
in the league, fewest touchdowns allowed, number one in the
red zone. It is hard to get into the end
zone on the Chargers and Justin Herbert Holy Molly eleven
straight starts without a pick. That's tied for the longest
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streak in league history. The fucks are beating the Giants, Panthers,
and Raiders Baker Mayfield back to back games with multiple interceptions.
Their defense is not good. This is a mismatch of defenses.
And I get the better quarterback, and I think I
get the better coach, and it's in LA. What don't
I get here? I'm gonna take the Chargers to win it.
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Twenty eight twenty three coach, defense, quarterback, home field.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Edge Packers at Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Green Bay is a better team. I'll lay the two
and a half points at Seattle. They're just a better team.
They're coming off extra rest. I love offensive coaches off
extra to rest. They're seven and two since the start
of October, both losses to Detroit. Detroit's pretty good nine
to one when holding opponents under thirty. Seattle's not going
to score thirty points, Josh Jacobs. This is now a
power run team. Four straight games for Jordan Love over
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one hundred passer rating. Like Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. They're saying, listen,
you don't need to throw at thirty eight. We'll throw
at twenty six. Seattle, They're an average home team. Three
and four Gino this year. I know we all love Gino.
Fourteen touchdowns twelve picks hasn't been very effective at home.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
They're beat up in the backfield.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I like the Packers to win and I like the
Packers to cover in a wildly entertaining game twenty eight
to twenty four. So if you look at my picks again,
I really like these. We're getting down to the home stretch.
I'm taking the Browns and I'm taking the Steelers as dogs.
But I like the Lions, the Chargers and the Packers.
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I think in all those games. Buffalo I liked initially,
but now they can't prack. Now they're off a highly
emotional game. You saw how bad the Rams were in
the first half last night. You can't have teams playing
highly emotional games then crank it up and say, hey,
do that again. And Detroit is absolutely great at home.
That's my Blazing five.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
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Speaker 1 (17:19):
Eric Mangini was the head coach of two teams, Jets
and Brown's, joining us live from New York.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Eric, I look at that. I don't even know what
you do. I mean, what do you do to a
player that clips. What would be the solution?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
You get rid of them?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, you move on it.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
It's bad and on so many levels Colin, because it's
not just that he quit, it's that you go into
the game and you inactivate someone that could have helped you,
and then and then this guy quits when he's supposed
to go in, so you don't even have the replacement
player for it, and he quits during a game that
is close, and that that's your last chance to really
have any shot at the playoffs. I mean, it's it's terrible. Yeah.
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I think you suspend him first and then don't really
give Hi an opportunity to go play anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, all right, Bill Belichick. I thought it was interesting.
It was in the fine print of the contract he
can leave for virtually no penalty June second. Now, he's
not going to leave this year obviously, right, nobody's hiring
a coach, but he may be entering the transfer portal
much sooner than we thought. I've said this, Eric I
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said this. He's a pro football coach ten years ago.
Maybe the NFL left him, not just him leaving the NFL.
He's rehabbing his image he's on television, he's more fun.
Who he's dating, college is younger. I feel like it's
a I feel like it's a rehab. I'm not to
be cynical, but how does it land for you?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, Well, in order for it to be a rehab,
it's got to be successful. And I think the real
edge that Bill has and his staff is going to
have is going to be from from a strategy standpoint.
They're gonna win some games that they shouldn't win. Okay,
because because he's going to be better than some of
the coaches that he's facing, and that's huge, But we
all know that it's not always about the ex's nose.
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It's about the Johnny's and Joe's and whether or not
he can get the players in. Okay, that's one component.
Can you get the players in? And the nil the
money helps because it's not just recruiting. I don't think
he'd have any edge whatsoever from a recruiting standpoint. And
then the second part, which I think is going to
be really challenging Colin is that's a hard program and
in New England, you're under contract. You can't leave. In
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college football with the transfer portal, if those guys don't
like the way it's going, they can leave. So you're
not just recruiting the players once to get in. You
got to keep recruiting them to some degree to keep
them at the at the college. So so it's it's
it's layered there, and that to me, is going to
be a huge challenge for him.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So last night it was very clear the Niners made
a point in their first twelve plays of getting the
ball to Debo to appease him. AJ Brown's complaining about
his touch touches, And I look at it and I'm like, Eric,
if you go in the NFL, if you go to
a game with any other plan than win, if you're
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trying to prove, like Ohio State a couple of weeks
ago played Michigan, they were trying to prove how physical
they were.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Michigan was trying to win.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I look at last night with San Francisco, I
think the training goes off the tracks when you're trying
to get touches for somebody.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
How did you ever deal with that? In the NFL?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh, you'd be You'd be shocked, Colling how often that happens.
Pretty much anywhere there is a wide receiver that has
one of those personalities that's very demanding about about how
much they get the ball and and you know all
the things that go with it, and we've seen it
a thousand times. Inevitably, in that first fifteen play script,
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there's place where he's going to get a touch, and
the touch may not necessarily be because we think that's
the best play. The touch is just so we don't
have to listen and complain on the sideline in the
first quarter until the game gets going, and it's it's disappointing.
The challenging thing for San Francisco is they've got a
young quarterback. So young quarterbacks are even under more pressure
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in the huddle by guys like that, Hey, get me
the ball, give me the ball, give me the ball.
Where when you've got an established veteran, whether it's Stafford
or Brady or take your pick, those guys, those guys
can actually calm the huddle down and calm guys like
that down and not feel the same pressure to force
the ball to him like they obviously were trying to
do last night.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I think the biggest mistake and you can make in
this league you have to know who to pay. But
because quarterbacks are the highest paid. When when you pay
a B to B plus quarterback A plus money, Dallas,
you're trapped. I'll have no problem paying Lamar Jackson then
or out Mahomes, you get no problem. But you can't
go B plus A. You can overpay for a right tackle,
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but you're not paying a right tackle sixty million bucks
a year. I look at Purdy's numbers. We put these
up earlier as a fourth quarter quarterback in his career.
The numbers don't lie. What we first saw from Mahomes
was trailing or leading. He was the best quarterback in
the world. Late Brock Purty isn't what I mean. I
can't give him fifty five million dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I would rather give franchise Tag Darnold for one year
and get forty million and live for another day.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What do you do with Purty?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, it's it's really hard because look at Dallas. Not
only have they signed Dac you know, the first time,
but then they doubled down on it here this this
past offseason, and I think Jerry was trying to figure
out whether or not he really wanted to make that commitment.
He waited and then it cost him even more. And
the problem that you run into is what are your alternatives?
And San Francisco has done a good job to some
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degree when they went and got Garoppolo. Obviously that worked
out for for a little bit of time, But then
they tried to solve the problem in the draft, and
that's terrible, and that's terrible in in a in a
historic way to some degree how bad that trade was
for for Trey and and and Brock comes in and
saves him. So what's what's your alternative in terms of
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of of getting that quarterback? And maybe Sam a short
term answer is is okay, But but they're trying to
find a longer term answer. And the thing is they
don't really have to do Brock's contract this selfseason. They've
got him for another year. He may not like it,
but they still have them on their contract for another year.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So I have this opinion that sometimes the Green Bay
Packers have a coaching opening, you can go get a
scheme guy. He didn't have to have a history as
a culture guy, because their culture is good. But if
you're the Chargers and you're broken after Brandon Staley or
you know, you're the you're the Lions, you go get
Harbon Campbell, bigger than life, physical presence. They're culture guys.
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They're not scheme wizards. Green Bay. Scheme works, and Matt's
great as he develops into a guy that can change
a culture. I look at the Bears, Eric Mike Rabel
a tough. He's kind of Mike Tomlin tough, no nonsense,
no bs.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Doesn't he feel like the fit with the Bears.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Now I'm a little biased because I really love Mike Rabel.
I think I think not only is he one of
the smartest guys that I've ever coached. From a player perspective,
the type of recall that Mike Rabel had as a
player and the things that he was able to do
not just in terms of his position, but in terms
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of everybody else's position to helped me out the defense
was incredible from a coaching perspective. So now to have
him as a coach bringing that same sort of that
same sort of intelligence and perspective, but also to have
the legitimacy of being a former player, I think that
helps a lot. And then he's had success as a
head coach, so you're not going to go through all
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the learning curves that you that you have with the
new head coach. I look, I think Mike is a
great fit wherever, whatever opportunity he's going to get, and
people should be trying to get him in the mix.
And for him it would be a great situation because
I think Caleb Williams is has a great future.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, I really like him. What would you do? Similarly?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think he'd be a great fit with the Jets.
But I would say Mike, there's too much. I think
actually Rex Ryan kind of kind of works there in
a way. He's you know, he knows what he do.
The Jets have a perfect answer. I mean, what do
you what do you do? You got Aaron, Whereas the
Bears have a young quarterback, need to fix the culture.
They got some pieces. The Jets have some pieces. But
(25:54):
the quarterback situation is, you know, as you have detailed,
is beyond high maintenance. Now what do you do with
that situation?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Well, you've gotta you've got to be honest and objective
in the off season and look at it because he's
gonna cost you a lot of money if he's not there.
So so whoever you bring in, can you sit down,
have a conversation with Aaron and and and have a
strong enough head coach to say, this is the way
we're gonna do it. If you want to be part
of that, that's great. If you don't want to be
(26:24):
part of that, go ahead and retire so we don't
have to eat all of this dead money and force
him to make a decision. But you get you gotta
get a young quarterback. And I think a young quarterback
with Aaron could be could be a positive thing in
the sense that when Zach Wilson went there, he didn't
have anybody to look up to from from a experience standpoint. Now,
(26:44):
you don't want necessarily want the some of the other
traits that that Aaron brings the table, but but they're there.
I don't think you just throw it away without really
studying it, analyzing and see if there's some way to
get something positive out of this. A guy that I
like in New York is Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn played
for US at the Jets. He's he's been part of
(27:06):
that Detroit program. He's a former pro uh player and
very successful. He's tough, So so it's a it's a
nice mix. It's it's a new head coach, different from Vrabel,
but he's a guy with experience in in New York
as a player, and and he brings a mentality from
Detroit that that New York really needs.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, it's good to seeing you coach. You know, you're
it's you're in New York. You're you're it's like it's
it's you're like a coach. You're our coach at f
S one And I love having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And uh uh.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And I'm taking your Browns to possibly upset the Chiefs
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I don't I don't think that's bad. I don't think
that's bad. That with the the The Janis Winston Show
is fun to watch the Brons do a better job
than you think it at putting pressure on the quarterback.
Mahomes has been hit a ton and they and then look,
they're excited in Cleveland with James easy antithesis of what
(28:08):
they were dealing with with Deshaun Watson. People love Jameis
with all his flaws. He loves Cleveland, Cleveland loves him.
It's going to be exciting one way or the other.
And to go have a chance to upset Kansas City
in Cleveland this time year. I like it.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
If the Browns beat the Chiefs, I don't care what
your schedule is. Get in a flight and go sit
next to Nick. Right Monday, I'll pay to watch it.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Oh my god, yeah, there will be tears.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Great senior coach as always
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