January 1, 2025 • 40 mins
Today on The Herd, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill-in and tell critics to stop complaining about the new College Football Playoff format. 49ers Owner Jed York backs the Lynch-Shanahan regime. Plus, the Cowboys release Ezekiel Elliott and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I would like to say this, and we were efforting
catching up with Lebar Arrington, who by the way, is
in Arizona where his Penn State Nitney alliance took care
of business last night and took care of business against
Boise State. And the game kind of played out pretty
much how you expected the game to play out. That
Boise State was going to battle because they play hard.
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If Ashton Genty didn't have a big time monster performance,
then Boise State was going to be up against it.
But ultimately Penn State was the better team. They were
favored by eleven, twelve points whatever that going into the
game for a reason, and Penn State got it done.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And so what we've gotten.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thus far through the first five games of the College
Football Playoff, this new expanded twelve team college Football Playoff,
what we've gotten is basically chock, You've gotten all the
results that you expected, and you've gotten, for the most part,
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pretty uncompetitive games, and so the feeling would be all right, Well,
then what was the point of this? I mean, I
thought this was supposed to add some intrigue. I thought
this was supposed to add a new layer to college football.
I thought that the College Football Playoff was supposed to
give us a different viewpoint and a different look and
a different vibe when it comes to the entire thing.
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So what was the point? And my pushback on that
would be, what's the complaint? Like, there is no guarantees
that when you go into this thing that you're gonna
get good games. There's no guarantee. And I got news
for you, there's no guarantees you're gonna get good games
whatever you turn on football or basketball or baseball. Like,
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there's no guarantees. You ever gotten to a movie, walked
in and been like, man, really excited about this thing.
Half hour in you're like, this sucked out loud. It happens.
Now you could be one of those people who walks
up to the person who ripped your ticket, who probably
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doesn't want to be there anyways, and be like, Hey,
movie didn't live up to my expectations. Can I get
my thirteen twenty five back? And by the way, the
popcorn was a little dry. You could take that approach.
You could be one of those nerds who, after many
pakiaw fought Floyd Mayweather and people shelled out one hundred
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dollars to watch the fight, who went and complained afterwards
and said, I've paid one hundred dollars for this, had
a ten live up to my expectations, okay, And then
they found out Manny Pacio had like a torn rotator cuff,
and they thought, you know what, he should have disclosed
that before the fight, because otherwise I would have felt
a lot differently about shelling out one hundred dollars. Dude,
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what are you bitching about? If the guy didn't fight,
you would to complained then if you would have pulled
out last minute and canceled. But this is the problem
when it comes to college football. No matter what, you're
going to have a complaint because I got news for you.
It could have been a twelve team playoff, it could
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have been a sixteen team playoff. You could have thrown
in twenty teams. Christ you could have done a sixty
four team field like college basketball, and somebody somewhere would
have found a way to complain because that's what it is.
That's what college football has bred complaints. Like every single
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story that comes out of call Football, somebody's on the
opposite side pounding the table against it. Cam Ward decides, hey,
you know what, I want to go chase a record
and then I want to sit out the second half.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How dare he?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It was a pop Tarts Bowl? Like you literally had
an unhealthy toasted strudel jump out of a giant fake
toaster at the end of the game, and people were
pissed because some guy didn't participate in all of it.
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What are we talking about here? Did you see the
cheese It Bowl yesterday? You had people getting married at
the cheese It bull It's the cheese It Bowl? Like
there was a guy sitting in a jacuzzi filled with
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crackers talking about the snack, not trying to win an
Antonio Brown Award. But if he wants to hand out
any more of those, I'll gladly accept. But the point is,
no matter what, there's going to be a complaint, and
there's gonna be a problem and I looked at last
night bar and I thought to myself, you know what, Hey,
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Penn State took care of business. Boise State played hard,
But I would not rather go back to a four
team college football playoff because at least she gave the
underdog a chance in that spot.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I mean, they weren't the underdog. They were ranked higher,
they came in seed at higher, they had a bye
week because of what they accomplished during the season. I
think that there's going to always be debates of why
people like something and why they don't. Otherwise there wouldn't
be any topics, like nobody's ever going to get a
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perfect scenario for a playoff, and you're not always like
to me, I've been really thinking of this, right. It's
like they're saying their commitment is to get the best
teams into the playoff, and so there's all these different variables.
Your strength is schedule and stuff like that. There's all
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these different variables. But at the end of the day,
jonas you set up the schedule, you know what the
schedule is coming in, right, So if a team wins
out with their schedule knowing when they come into the
season that it's not a schedule that's strong enough to
outweigh the other schedules that are out there, then you,
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I would say, you judge it based off of that,
if you want to try and do it based off
of strength to schedule.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
But at the end of the day, I think, to.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Me, if you win your conference, and if you're a
team that has shown with their record, if like say
it's an independent like Notre Dame, if you've shown what
you're record that you should be in the playoff, then
be in the playoff. And let's line them up, let's
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do the playoff, and who wins wins.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Who loses loses.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I just think that it gets crazy to me because
here's the narrative. Here's the narrative. Oh, these aren't the
best teams. The best teams aren't in there. Alabama should
have been in there. Alabama just lost yesterday. Alabama lost, Like, oh,
this team, this team should have been in there. Miami
should have been in there. Miami lost. Okay, Oh, you
had opt outs. Maybe the opt outs play, maybe cam
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Ward plays. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
They lost. They lost.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So there is no justification for saying some of these
teams that didn't play in the playoff should have been
in the playoff because some of those teams have lost
their bowl games that they're playing in. So to me,
if a team gets granted and earns the opportunity to
be in the playoff and the bracket is made, shut
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the f up and enjoy the bracket, enjoy the games,
Like what else is there to it? I don't understand
why there's such outrage. If Boise beats If Boise beats
Penn State, are people complaining? If Indiana beats Notre Dame?
Are people complaining? If the lower seed teams that get
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in beat the higher seed teams, are people still complaining.
They'll probably find something different, a different narrative to complain about,
but they're still going to be complaining. You're not going
to make all of the pundits happy, You're not going
to make all of the fans happy. You're not going
to make everybody happy with what it is that the
College Playoff represents. So keep the number the same. I
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love the fact that there's a bracket and a tournament
that has this many teams.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like the fact that you.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Have matchups, and in the matchups have been made by
the schedule makers, by the bracket makers, the tournament makers
just accept it for what it is and enjoy it.
My god, what is all of the outrage for all
of the time it's weird.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And for the people that are like, well, it's not
the best teams all right? Well, you know how you
determine the best teams. You play games during the regular season,
and this is you know, this is going to be
a weird concept. But if you win a lot of
those and don't lose a lot of those, you are
determined to be the best team in college football. And
there were teams that lost less than Miami and Alabama.
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Thus they got in and Miami and Alabama didn't. That's
the way this works, I understand.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Straight the schedule best teams.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah, the best teams don't always perform well enough to
make it in. Like that's just the bottom line. They
might have been a better team, but something happened that said, Okay,
they're not the best team, or they didn't play the
best game, like that could have been Notre Dame with
that Northern Illinoi's loss, right Illinois, Like that could have
been a you know, that could have been something that
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kept them out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know, you just never know.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It's just they're so people are so conditioned to complain
and bitch about college football.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That they can't.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and they can't. They can't just let it be. Listen,
there's no guarantees that you're going to get a good
game every single time. And so so Penn State did
what they've supposed to, what they were supposed to do
in time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yes, they were that was a game last night like that.
People weren't. People were nervous in stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
The game didn't look like the SMU game where SMU
completely melted. I mean, they couldn't handle the conditions. They
couldn't handle the stage. They looked like they were rattled
from the get go, like there were opportunities, like it
wasn't a clean game for Penn State. They turned the
ball over like so I came away from that going
Penn State did what they should have done, and I
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thought Boise State represented themselves well. But it played out
how you would have expected it. If they were if
they could stop Ashton gent, which they did for the
most part, then they were going to have success. Like
I I look at it and I think.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
What's the beef? What's the beef?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think that also there's a lot of people
that hold on to the narratives that you have about
certain programs or coaches going into things.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And you know the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Narrative about James Franklin, Well, he doesn't win big games.
He doesn't win big games. Look at his record against
this team, this team, and this team, and.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Blah blah blah. So the hope games, yes, it's so.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The hope is we got beef with Franklin over two teams.
It's two teams.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So the hope is we need James Franklin to lose
so we can hold on to the take that we
had three weeks ago when they lost to you know,
Ohio State or they lost to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's like, I just I look at it and I
think to myself, we're better off this way.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And I'm one of those people that I didn't agree
with expanding past four teams. I thought, no, four, Fine,
if you're gonna do anything, go to six. Give a
bye to the first two, and then you have your
semi fun. And then I start to look at it
and go, First of all, I'm arguing upstream because it's
more money, and the money dictates everything, so it's gonna
happen regardless. And secondly, it's the first year.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Look, we don't know how these games. Arizona State could
upset Texas. We don't know that is all of a
sudden the college football Playoff gonna be worthwhile because Arizona
State Upstates upsets Texas. Like, there's no guarantees you're gonna
get good matchups. Do you remember watching super Bowls in
the eighties, there was like a stretch to where every
Super Bowl was a blowout for like nine ten years
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in a row. I didn't see people complaining and they're like, oh,
they've got to redo this whole super Bowl thing. No,
you just understood. Hey, best team from this conference, best
team from that conference. They get together. Hopefully we get
a good game. But there's no guarantees.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
That's the point, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Sports are sports, Like, if you're not a decision maker
for the playoffs, watch the games and enjoy the games.
Like why does there have to be all these conspiracy
theories and like I said, for sports talk radios, for
sports talk television, podcasting and all, I get it. But
the more people try to sound smart about it, the
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dumber they sound, like, let it play out. It's a game,
you play the game. And if you've earn't the right
by what took place during the season. If you're in
there and I don't care about you arguing, well, maybe
you didn't earn the right. Yeah you did it cause
you're in. You got in. So if you got in,
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you got in. Play the games. Play the games. The
brackets are the brackets. Play the games. Like if it's
what you expected, good, bet money. If you're so brilliant,
bet money and become a billionaire. Bet all your money.
Go bet your house, your home, your kids, your wife,
your husband, whoever, go bet it all. If you got
it so figured out, go bet it all. If these
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teams aren't supposed to be here, that you're saying in
this that at all.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Go ahead, give it all up. Hey, let's see how
confident you are.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Let me tell you so.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Look, I've been the I've been pounding the table for
We've got to start building this stuff around gambling because
it's it makes things interesting when they probably shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
When Boise State was driving down the field and it
looked like they were going to score that garbage time
touchdown that would have impacted a significant amount of bets
who had Penn State minus eleven. They're holding on to
that seventeen point lead and people are sweating their balls
off thinking of themselves, Oh god, I'm gonna lose here
on a garbage time touchdown. But Penn State picked it
off of the end zone and they and it saved
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the day.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Find something, find something compelling about it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
If you get a plain piece of chicken at a restaurant,
ask for some hot sauce. Gambling is the hot sauce
of sports, and people need to start embracing it. For
Christ's sake.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I love that. That's a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Damn right.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If you don't like a regular wing, get some dipensaz.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you if you don't put buffalo sauce on a wing,
what is it to trump stand.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Buffalo wing?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Oh man? That is sure.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
By the way, well, we'll say we'll get details from
you throughout the course of the show on what what
Arizona looked like out there.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Arizona was bro it was New Year's Eve, it's New
Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
All I can tell.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You is, if you've ever been to Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
On a regular day, on a regular weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know, they call it Sunday Funday around here, you know,
because Sunday is like the day that's like there deemed
Friday or Saturday for most places. Right, if you've ever
been here for that, you know what what the environment
is in Scottsdale. I've never been here for I've never
been here for for New Year's. I've never been here
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for New year and I ain't never coming back.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And I don't know why I'm doing this show today.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Can't do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But there's there's a there's a reason why a lot
of retired baseball players retire in Arizona because they go
out there for spring training during the course of their
career and they go you know what, it's the taxes.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
They come out here. It's purely because of the taxes.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's right. It's that blonde tax.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh, it's that silicone tax.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Damn man, damn they called him. They called a mountain
out here, camel Back Mountain, and they got it right.
They got it right. God dang it, they got it right.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio, it's
Lebar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up next
here though, on Fox Sports Radio. Listen, this shouldn't have
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NFL shouldn't have even got this far, but apparently here
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So Var, I mean, this is just a real stunter.
You talk about breaking news out of the NFL. Niners
owner Jed York has told the San Francisco Standard that
Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch aren't going anywhere, which is
which is a real whoa which I gotta tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Do we have the breaking news? Do we have the
breaking news effect? Can we do that again. You know what, Chris,
do you have the breaking news?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't want I don't want Dan to get mad
at me.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're talking about news that really knocked my d in
the dirt. Just a real stutter. This was this was
thrown out there. This was thrown out there. It's not
it's not to take shots and Mike Florio does a
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great job, but this was thrown out there as a Hey,
what if for Mike Florio that for some reason spread
like wildfire, Like I don't get it, Like I didn't
understand it. Oh, maybe maybe the Bears should call up
Kyle Shannan the Niners. And because it feels like it's
run its course. Dude, they had a down year coming
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off a Super Bowl. I'm not I'm saying the window
hasn't closed as far as this window, this championship window
for the forty nine ers, But getting rid of those
guys doesn't exactly open up another one.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Quicker like it feels like you got rebuild. Yeah, Like
it feels like like that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Now you're building, finding a new coach, finding a new
GM Like everybody wants a Kyle Shanahan branch off the
tree when they hire coaches. Now, why would the Niners
let him walk for any reason whatsoever other than he
just wanted out of there, which he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And I think the same thing exists for John Lynch
as well. If you're going to have to rebuild a
team like that team went to two super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Correct, Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, he's they taking the the
kind of core pieces of that that forty nine ers seaman,
they've gone to multiple super Bowls and they've had a
ton of success. They add Christian McCaffrey, it looked as
though they were going to have more success than what
they did before. Maybe that takes them over the top.
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But you dealt with injuries. I mean they might if
Greenlaw doesn't go down and that Super Bowl, maybe that
Super Bowl plays out differently. Yeah, you know, you know
there's so many different things that have happened to this
this forty nine Ers team injury wise, that you would say,
if this didn't happen, where are they at?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Right? If the lights don't go out, where are they at?
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Which that wasn't that was horriball, But I'm just saying,
at the end of the day, the forty nine ers
have had some things happen to them where you'd be like,
if this didn't happen, what would have what could have been?
If I'm going to if I'm going to have to
start over because of contracts, because of players that are
you know, injured or retiring or whatever it may be,
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if I'm going to rebuild, I'm not looking for a
different GM and a different coach than John Lynch Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
To do it. Like I'm just not so that.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
It really is kind of a comical conversation because that
the team that they have right now. Sure, sure they
they've underperformed this year, but when you take a good
heart look at the body of work and what they've
had to do with main pieces, these weren't These weren't
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just you know, cogs of the machine that you could
just replace. These were main guys. Trent Williams going down
like he's arguably I mean, he's up there with the
greatest offensive tackles to ever play the game.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
He's down, he's hurt. You know, I goes out.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
So now your number one threat, your downfield threats, he's
not even there. After you spend a whole entire offseason
trying to figure out what you were going to do
with the situation. Deebo Samuels was dealing with injuries this year,
Rock Purdy was dealing with injuries this year, still dealing
with them. Now your whole team was decimated. Greenlalg couldn't
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come back. He tried, he couldn't even come back. You
were decimated with with just just as much as a
team like Detroit. You know, you could look at Detroit's
injuries and say that there there are you know, there
would have been reasons for them not to do well
at some point based off of all of those injuries. Well,
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it happened to San Fran this year. They weren't able
to overcome their injuries. I don't think it was coaching.
I don't think it was the way that the team
is being ran by the GM and I just think
that you ran into a situation where you had to
navigate what you had to navigated.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It was a snake bit year. I mean, like all
the stuff that happened before the year, McCaffrey. You know,
to your point, the injury that was really mysterious. They
thought he was going to play the first week of
the season, and then I was like, no, maybe he's
gonna be outil November.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Wait what like that?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
He like that wasn't anywhere on the injury report we
were told about. And then you had the Brandon Ayuk
injury and before the season it was contract and you
know there was issues at practice where he didn't want
to wear the same color pants or shorts as everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Like there was just always something.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You had a guy get shot, like Pierce All got
shot at three in the afternoon in San Francisco because
somebody wanted his rolex. Just like it felt like everything
that was going to go wrong with this that could
go wrong for this team went wrong this year. And
one of the things that I do think is so
they talk about, well, you know, they've gotten to the
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super Bowl, they've come up short, so they need to
make some changes. First of all, you came up short
to Patrick Mahomes. Secondly, you probably should have won both
those games. And thirdly, you remember the conversation that everyone always
has about Joe Gibbs. They talk about all you know, listen,
he's he's taken, He's won a super Bowl with all
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these different core back So you're giving a certain amount
of credit if you can do it with different guys
and not just the same quarterback every time. Dude, Kyle
Shanahan took Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purty to the Super Bowl. Like,
it's not like he's had a one year Oh listen,
it was this one time and other than that they've
fallen apart. Like no, no, Like he's taken multiple and
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been a part of multiple teams with different looks at
that position to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know what more.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Evidence you need to understand that, Yeah, this guy kind
of knows what he's doing. He kind of knows how
to build around that position.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Here.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well, in Washington's case, they could have won with any
quarterback because of the personnel that they had, you know,
with the Hogs, you know, with their their backfield, with
their receivers, with the with the posse. You know, they
could have won with any quarterback, and they did when
with any quarterback. I think this is a different situation
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with with San Francisco, and I think that you've you've
seen a team with with Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Evolved through the years.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I think his his offensive prowess has been a tremendous
asset to him, but He's ultimately going to have to
adjust and adapt and evolve if he's going to continue
to have the success what was new, fresh but yet
mixed and meshed in with the old way of how
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things were done, like how his his father did things
with the offenses, and the brilliance that he was able
to bring with that zone blocking scheme, well, Kyle Shanahan
evolved it and molded it in a way where he
made it his and I think he's got to do
it again.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I think he's got to do it again.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
They just they got to stay healthy, They got to
figure out who's going to be on this roster. And
I think it just kind of is as simple as
that Jonas is that there has to be an evolution
as to what he's doing offensively, and you'd assume that
he'll self scout in the off season and he'll start
to figure out ways that he can have more success
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than what he did and possibly ultimately maybe had more success.
Even if or have success, I say, a measure of
success even if you find yourself dealing with the injuries,
because again, with what you got Ben Johnson doing and
Dan Campbell and Detroit, they haven't they haven't fallen off
because of injuries. If there's any team that could blame
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injuries for a fall off, it would have been Detroit.
And they have not. They have not fallen off, and
they have been able to maintain a high level of execution.
And I think that that's what these guys are going
to have to focus in on in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, I just I don't know how that makes your
team better. I don't you know, like well, you know,
it's just it's really run its court. Because look, the
Raiders giving away John Grew, Like there's probably you know,
if you were to go back and look at that
and say, well, they traded away Gruden, but yeah, that
probably a regrettable moment, especially in the Super Bowl when
Gruden knew exactly what plays they were running, and that's
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you know what led to Tampa Bay winning that game.
I just sometimes this stuff is thrown out there and
people just run with it. And like I said, I
don't blame Florio for throwing stuff out there, Like he'll
he'll throw out and he'll speculate about stuff, and then
that's say throw out, Oh okay, did you see any
people you know, letting it letting it fly?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Out there.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Nobody real pros.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I can really handle it out there.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
There to handle their business. Last night?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh yeah, so we will you know, listen.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
To nobody carried out, nothing like just I mean, they
had to kick people out.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Did you make it? Did you make it all the
way to midnight?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah? I was? I was. I was out. How was that?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I was out last night? LeVar was out? La was
out last night. But I was in my hotel, so maybe.
But I am at the Ambassador, So it was this
was a vibe. It was a vibe here.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Nothing better.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I was underdressed. I was terribly underdressed. But I had
just left from a football game, so I wasn't going
to switch it up, you know what I mean. I
just went with it. But I was terribly underdressed.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Our guy Ker Krutchmeyer is actually making the track. He
was at the game last night. He's en route. He
sent me a text a little while ago saying he's
driving to the Rose Bowl as we speak.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So he's oh wow, on.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
The commute from Arizona or did the Rose Bowl?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
To watch?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Watch that big one there between Oregon Ohio State, which
is going to be a beast of a game. That's
gonna be that's gonna be a lot of fun. So yeah, listen,
it looks like Arizona showed up. What was the crowd
split by.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
The way, it might have been sixty forty maybe fifty five,
you know, forty five maybe you know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And it was Boise.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
They were there, man, they they they showed up, but
it was almost split down the line. But but Boise
they were they were louder. They were definitely louder. So
it felt like a Boise home game.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Did Were you on the sidelines in like a hunting
hat or something like this? Yeah, okay, it's somebody. Uh
somebody sent a tweet asking if that was you, So
that was me.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It wasn't sure what the attire was or.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, it's my stick city hat, that's all. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I got to stay with my son, which was really cool.
Who's now a member of the football team, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's no, that's awesome. Yeah, listen, it was uh, look,
I enjoyed the game. I thought it was a fun game.
Ashton got lit up after a turnover.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
That was they was hunting him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Now, that was very nice.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He got it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
He got his yardage. But they hey, them boys was
out there hunting him. I can guarantee you that young
man is sore as hell today.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
They was slamming him all over the place, man, and
they was thumping him. So but he's a warrior, man.
I liked his I like his game.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
He definitely is a warrior and he's going to be
a good one for for years to come.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So he was.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
He was literally in a shootout like Boise State was
in a shootout against Oregon. It was Dylan Gabriel against
Ashton gent Like. He was just ripping off seventy yard
runs in that game to keep keep him alive. So
he had a fantastic year, man, really really good.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
He had a he had a brilliant game yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
It's I mean, you have a defense like that that's
built the way that it's built upfront and has athletes
on the back end. I mean, and he was still
able to re two hundred yards man like, and everybody
in the world, everybody in the stadium, everybody on the field,
everybody knew that every play, every other play, you got it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Just listen, just go.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
After genty every single play, Like, don't worry about anything.
Else just worry about getting to genty and he was
still able to get to one hundred yards, so that's
pretty special.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I was watching the Hawaii Boise State game because I
have no life, and I was watching it on I
don't even know what the name of the app is,
but I think it's like Team one Sports because that's
the only way you can watch Hawaii games, or that
one might have been on CVS whatever it was on,
and I was watching it earlier in the year, and
I'm listening to the to the broadcasters from Hawaii be like, you.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Know, listen.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I mean, look, I know the Rainbow Warriors are trailing
right now, but I've done a really good job at
containing Ashton gent and he was still averaging like seven
point nine yards of carry, Like every time he touched
the ball, he was picking up eight yards of clips.
So that looked significantly different than last night where he
was getting a beating at a.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Certain points during that game.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But represented themselves well.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And there's some thought I saw a mock draft that
came out that some people think he there's a shot
he might be a top ten pick. So the running
back is resurging.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
So I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Wouldn't get carried away on running backs resurging, but he is.
I mean Q brought him up early on in the
season and you guys talked about him, and I started
paying attention to him after that. I mean, he literally
almost beat Organ and Oregon is the best team in
America right now. I mean, you know, it could be debatable,
and you know if it's Ohio State, but I think
(32:42):
it's it's Organ for now. And they had to beat
them with a last second kick. Yeah, and that's really
largely in part what Genti was able to do in
that game. So yeah, man, I give him his props.
I give Boise their props. You know, they went out
there and they fought, and they played a you know,
it was a valiant effort. If you ask me, it
was not a just a runaway game. It was not
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just a runaway game. It had the potential to go
There was like two or three times during that game
where the momentum had clearly shifted one side to the
other and it could have gone either way at those
points in time. And so anytime you are a part
of a game like that, you know, you you come
(33:26):
away from that game knowing that you were in a
game and you had to win that game. They belonged there,
and it was to me, it was a super competitive game,
and and good for them, good good for good for Ashton,
Genty and and Boise coming in and playing the way
that they.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Did, and hopefully their fan base got to stick around
after the game. It just went out and got lit
up in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Afterwards, some dude tried to fight me, really me, Oh,
he tried to fight me. I was on my way
to to where you know, we were going to depart,
and you know, some of the people with me were
doing the we are chat and I guess the two
dudes that were walking back, one dude bumped me like
like he bumped me, like and it was late, like
(34:11):
I caught onto it late, Jonas, you know, like like
did this guy just bumped me?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I turned.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
I didn't know what it was until I right. I
turned and I saw that it was a guy with
Boise State orange on right, So then I realized that
he had bumped me on purpose, you know. So then
it was too late, like it would have been too
late for me to run back up on him, you
know what I mean, and throw down. So I let
(34:38):
that one go. Then we're walking and we're not like,
you know, we're not too far away from the first
incident that takes place. And the people I'm with, they're
saying the we are chant this, that and the other,
and this dude go.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
He looks at me, he goes.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Fu u f and push yeah, and then he said
look look and then he said he said, you off,
I'll whip you.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And I'm looking at the.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Dude, I'm going to punch your face.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I went into tunnel vision, bro, I went to the
tunnel vision. I almost it almost went down last Ye.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah I heard that because I actually did see a
report on that that you lifted up your shirt and said,
we got.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
A problem here, we got a problem here.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And then like everybody's kind of jumping there convertible and
sped off.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
So yeah, that was just it could have been all
about the burner. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Go to Berner dot com slash LeVar, you get you
a nice little burner that's non lethal.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Rowns people. Damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
He could have got it, He could have got popped.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
It's the herd, so belligerent ass.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It is the Herd. On Fox Sports Radio. It's LaVar Errington,
Jonas knox In for Colin coming up.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Flamped out like uh Ashton genty, Come it up.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're gonna tell you about a parting gift from one
organization to one player in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's next. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Jonas knox
In for Colin. Coming up top of next hour. A
little over ten minutes from now We're going to tell
you about a major decision, a major decision in the NFL.
We are getting very close to that decision being made.
We'll get into that for you again a little over
ten minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. A reminder,
(36:27):
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
Again.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
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You'll see today's show posted. Right after we get off
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with Brady Quinn. And you know we have a good time.
It's called two Pros and a Cup of Joe and
you know check it out. You know we'll be back
there tomorrow. So right now, though, it is time for this.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
No no turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
This is the herd Line News, all right, lead to lap.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
What do we got, well, guys, Casey is this Cowboys
cut running back Ezekiel Elliott yesterday and in a statement
from Jerry Jones, he says, out of respect and appreciation
for Zeke and wanting to provide him with an opportunity
to pursue any potential playoff participation possible, we are releasing
him from the Cowboys roster today, adding, as I have
said many times previously, Zeke's impact as one of the
(37:32):
greatest ever play with the star on his helmet, will
never change and has etched into our record books and
history forever.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Oh why did I not release in Michael Parsons then
damn yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Why is Zeke get all the good breaks?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Get my homie an opportunity to play for something.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
By the way, I do like how they're out of
the goodness of their heart, they're releasing Ezekiel Elliott to
go find a playoff roster. That's like somebody who spends
seventy five dollars at of an eighty dollars gift card
and says, here, man, merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Wait wait what there's five bucks left? What are we
doing here?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Do the same thing with Michael Parsons And I want
to hear the same exact statement.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
What else we got guys?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
In case you missed this, Shane Biemer flipped out after
a in the Bowl game the cheese at the Bowl
after Brett Bielima was taunting him. He was checking on
his injured player and then started taunting Beemer by making
a motion for a substitution.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Well, because they they were going back and forth because
there was some complaints about how long it was taking
Illinois to do some of their I guess you know
when they were trying to bring players in and out
and substituting guys.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yeah, because yeah, you got to give them the time
to get off the field when you do the substitution.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
So they was you can slow the game down that way.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Beemer was complaining and they were all chummy before the game,
and then when Beilima came over and did the did
the substitution taunting to their headline, Beemer tried to go
after him and everyone was waiting, had the postgame handshake
for them to potentially throw down, and it was just cordial,
kind of boring, to be honest with you, But man,
Illinois give credit. You remember a couple of years ago
(39:12):
on two pros we were having the conversation about Brett Beilima,
who called out his offensive lineman and everyone was like,
you can't do that to your players. What he dude,
He's completely turned around that program, like completely yeah, really
tough and you know, so it's a good, good story
there in Champagne.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
What else you got, guys?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Though there wasn't much to play for, the Lions forty
nine Ers game on Monday Night football was actually the
most watched Monday night football game of the season, drawing.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Twenty two point two million viewers. ESPN added that it
was one of the.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Five most watched Monday night football games since they've been
carrying it since two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Lee, why do you think that was? Well, well, why
do you think that was?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Maybe fantasy football has. That's right, one hundred percent. That's
what it was like.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That was fantasy football that had everything to do with that. Again,
at little money into things, add some gambling into your sports,
and next thing you know, stuff becomes interesting. I'm telling
you it's the plastic surgery of sports. Throw some bets
on there, make it happen, and all of a sudden
it gets more entertaining and more watchable works every time
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I would like to say this, and we were efforting
catching up with Lebar Arrington, who by the way, is
in Arizona where his Penn State Nitney alliance took care
of business last night and took care of business against
Boise State. And the game kind of played out pretty
much how you expected the game to play out. That
Boise State was going to battle because they play hard.
(00:46):
If Ashton Genty didn't have a big time monster performance,
then Boise State was going to be up against it.
But ultimately Penn State was the better team. They were
favored by eleven, twelve points whatever that going into the
game for a reason, and Penn State got it done.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And so what we've gotten.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thus far through the first five games of the College
Football Playoff, this new expanded twelve team college Football Playoff,
what we've gotten is basically chock, You've gotten all the
results that you expected, and you've gotten, for the most part,
(01:25):
pretty uncompetitive games, and so the feeling would be all right, Well,
then what was the point of this? I mean, I
thought this was supposed to add some intrigue. I thought
this was supposed to add a new layer to college football.
I thought that the College Football Playoff was supposed to
give us a different viewpoint and a different look and
a different vibe when it comes to the entire thing.
(01:47):
So what was the point? And my pushback on that
would be, what's the complaint? Like, there is no guarantees
that when you go into this thing that you're gonna
get good games. There's no guarantee. And I got news
for you, there's no guarantees you're gonna get good games
whatever you turn on football or basketball or baseball. Like,
(02:09):
there's no guarantees. You ever gotten to a movie, walked
in and been like, man, really excited about this thing.
Half hour in you're like, this sucked out loud. It happens.
Now you could be one of those people who walks
up to the person who ripped your ticket, who probably
(02:31):
doesn't want to be there anyways, and be like, Hey,
movie didn't live up to my expectations. Can I get
my thirteen twenty five back? And by the way, the
popcorn was a little dry. You could take that approach.
You could be one of those nerds who, after many
pakiaw fought Floyd Mayweather and people shelled out one hundred
(02:51):
dollars to watch the fight, who went and complained afterwards
and said, I've paid one hundred dollars for this, had
a ten live up to my expectations, okay, And then
they found out Manny Pacio had like a torn rotator cuff,
and they thought, you know what, he should have disclosed
that before the fight, because otherwise I would have felt
a lot differently about shelling out one hundred dollars. Dude,
(03:15):
what are you bitching about? If the guy didn't fight,
you would to complained then if you would have pulled
out last minute and canceled. But this is the problem
when it comes to college football. No matter what, you're
going to have a complaint because I got news for you.
It could have been a twelve team playoff, it could
(03:35):
have been a sixteen team playoff. You could have thrown
in twenty teams. Christ you could have done a sixty
four team field like college basketball, and somebody somewhere would
have found a way to complain because that's what it is.
That's what college football has bred complaints. Like every single
(03:58):
story that comes out of call Football, somebody's on the
opposite side pounding the table against it. Cam Ward decides, hey,
you know what, I want to go chase a record
and then I want to sit out the second half.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
How dare he?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It was a pop Tarts Bowl? Like you literally had
an unhealthy toasted strudel jump out of a giant fake
toaster at the end of the game, and people were
pissed because some guy didn't participate in all of it.
(04:38):
What are we talking about here? Did you see the
cheese It Bowl yesterday? You had people getting married at
the cheese It bull It's the cheese It Bowl? Like
there was a guy sitting in a jacuzzi filled with
(05:00):
crackers talking about the snack, not trying to win an
Antonio Brown Award. But if he wants to hand out
any more of those, I'll gladly accept. But the point is,
no matter what, there's going to be a complaint, and
there's gonna be a problem and I looked at last
night bar and I thought to myself, you know what, Hey,
(05:20):
Penn State took care of business. Boise State played hard,
But I would not rather go back to a four
team college football playoff because at least she gave the
underdog a chance in that spot.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I mean, they weren't the underdog. They were ranked higher,
they came in seed at higher, they had a bye
week because of what they accomplished during the season. I
think that there's going to always be debates of why
people like something and why they don't. Otherwise there wouldn't
be any topics, like nobody's ever going to get a
(05:53):
perfect scenario for a playoff, and you're not always like
to me, I've been really thinking of this, right. It's
like they're saying their commitment is to get the best
teams into the playoff, and so there's all these different variables.
Your strength is schedule and stuff like that. There's all
(06:15):
these different variables. But at the end of the day,
jonas you set up the schedule, you know what the
schedule is coming in, right, So if a team wins
out with their schedule knowing when they come into the
season that it's not a schedule that's strong enough to
outweigh the other schedules that are out there, then you,
(06:38):
I would say, you judge it based off of that,
if you want to try and do it based off
of strength to schedule.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
But at the end of the day, I think, to.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Me, if you win your conference, and if you're a
team that has shown with their record, if like say
it's an independent like Notre Dame, if you've shown what
you're record that you should be in the playoff, then
be in the playoff. And let's line them up, let's
(07:08):
do the playoff, and who wins wins.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Who loses loses.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I just think that it gets crazy to me because
here's the narrative. Here's the narrative. Oh, these aren't the
best teams. The best teams aren't in there. Alabama should
have been in there. Alabama just lost yesterday. Alabama lost, Like, oh,
this team, this team should have been in there. Miami
should have been in there. Miami lost. Okay, Oh, you
had opt outs. Maybe the opt outs play, maybe cam
(07:36):
Ward plays. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
They lost. They lost.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
So there is no justification for saying some of these
teams that didn't play in the playoff should have been
in the playoff because some of those teams have lost
their bowl games that they're playing in. So to me,
if a team gets granted and earns the opportunity to
be in the playoff and the bracket is made, shut
(08:00):
the f up and enjoy the bracket, enjoy the games,
Like what else is there to it? I don't understand
why there's such outrage. If Boise beats If Boise beats
Penn State, are people complaining? If Indiana beats Notre Dame?
Are people complaining? If the lower seed teams that get
(08:23):
in beat the higher seed teams, are people still complaining.
They'll probably find something different, a different narrative to complain about,
but they're still going to be complaining. You're not going
to make all of the pundits happy, You're not going
to make all of the fans happy. You're not going
to make everybody happy with what it is that the
College Playoff represents. So keep the number the same. I
(08:46):
love the fact that there's a bracket and a tournament
that has this many teams.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like the fact that you.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Have matchups, and in the matchups have been made by
the schedule makers, by the bracket makers, the tournament makers
just accept it for what it is and enjoy it.
My god, what is all of the outrage for all
of the time it's weird.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And for the people that are like, well, it's not
the best teams all right? Well, you know how you
determine the best teams. You play games during the regular season,
and this is you know, this is going to be
a weird concept. But if you win a lot of
those and don't lose a lot of those, you are
determined to be the best team in college football. And
there were teams that lost less than Miami and Alabama.
(09:33):
Thus they got in and Miami and Alabama didn't. That's
the way this works, I understand.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Straight the schedule best teams.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah, the best teams don't always perform well enough to
make it in. Like that's just the bottom line. They
might have been a better team, but something happened that said, Okay,
they're not the best team, or they didn't play the
best game, like that could have been Notre Dame with
that Northern Illinoi's loss, right Illinois, Like that could have
been a you know, that could have been something that
(10:03):
kept them out.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know, you just never know.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It's just they're so people are so conditioned to complain
and bitch about college football.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That they can't.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and they can't. They can't just let it be. Listen,
there's no guarantees that you're going to get a good
game every single time. And so so Penn State did
what they've supposed to, what they were supposed to do
in time.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yes, they were that was a game last night like that.
People weren't. People were nervous in stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
The game didn't look like the SMU game where SMU
completely melted. I mean, they couldn't handle the conditions. They
couldn't handle the stage. They looked like they were rattled
from the get go, like there were opportunities, like it
wasn't a clean game for Penn State. They turned the
ball over like so I came away from that going
Penn State did what they should have done, and I
(10:59):
thought Boise State represented themselves well. But it played out
how you would have expected it. If they were if
they could stop Ashton gent, which they did for the
most part, then they were going to have success. Like
I I look at it and I think.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
What's the beef? What's the beef?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think that also there's a lot of people
that hold on to the narratives that you have about
certain programs or coaches going into things.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And you know the.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Narrative about James Franklin, Well, he doesn't win big games.
He doesn't win big games. Look at his record against
this team, this team, and this team, and.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Blah blah blah. So the hope games, yes, it's so.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The hope is we got beef with Franklin over two teams.
It's two teams.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So the hope is we need James Franklin to lose
so we can hold on to the take that we
had three weeks ago when they lost to you know,
Ohio State or they lost to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's like, I just I look at it and I
think to myself, we're better off this way.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And I'm one of those people that I didn't agree
with expanding past four teams. I thought, no, four, Fine,
if you're gonna do anything, go to six. Give a
bye to the first two, and then you have your
semi fun. And then I start to look at it
and go, First of all, I'm arguing upstream because it's
more money, and the money dictates everything, so it's gonna
happen regardless. And secondly, it's the first year.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Look, we don't know how these games. Arizona State could
upset Texas. We don't know that is all of a
sudden the college football Playoff gonna be worthwhile because Arizona
State Upstates upsets Texas. Like, there's no guarantees you're gonna
get good matchups. Do you remember watching super Bowls in
the eighties, there was like a stretch to where every
Super Bowl was a blowout for like nine ten years
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in a row. I didn't see people complaining and they're like, oh,
they've got to redo this whole super Bowl thing. No,
you just understood. Hey, best team from this conference, best
team from that conference. They get together. Hopefully we get
a good game. But there's no guarantees.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
That's the point, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Sports are sports, Like, if you're not a decision maker
for the playoffs, watch the games and enjoy the games.
Like why does there have to be all these conspiracy
theories and like I said, for sports talk radios, for
sports talk television, podcasting and all, I get it. But
the more people try to sound smart about it, the
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dumber they sound, like, let it play out. It's a game,
you play the game. And if you've earn't the right
by what took place during the season. If you're in
there and I don't care about you arguing, well, maybe
you didn't earn the right. Yeah you did it cause
you're in. You got in. So if you got in,
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you got in. Play the games. Play the games. The
brackets are the brackets. Play the games. Like if it's
what you expected, good, bet money. If you're so brilliant,
bet money and become a billionaire. Bet all your money.
Go bet your house, your home, your kids, your wife,
your husband, whoever, go bet it all. If you got
it so figured out, go bet it all. If these
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teams aren't supposed to be here, that you're saying in
this that at all.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Go ahead, give it all up. Hey, let's see how
confident you are.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Let me tell you so.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Look, I've been the I've been pounding the table for
We've got to start building this stuff around gambling because
it's it makes things interesting when they probably shouldn't be.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
When Boise State was driving down the field and it
looked like they were going to score that garbage time
touchdown that would have impacted a significant amount of bets
who had Penn State minus eleven. They're holding on to
that seventeen point lead and people are sweating their balls
off thinking of themselves, Oh god, I'm gonna lose here
on a garbage time touchdown. But Penn State picked it
off of the end zone and they and it saved
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the day.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Find something, find something compelling about it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
If you get a plain piece of chicken at a restaurant,
ask for some hot sauce. Gambling is the hot sauce
of sports, and people need to start embracing it. For
Christ's sake.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I love that. That's a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Damn right.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If you don't like a regular wing, get some dipensaz.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you if you don't put buffalo sauce on a wing,
what is it to trump stand.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Buffalo wing?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Oh man? That is sure.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
By the way, well, we'll say we'll get details from
you throughout the course of the show on what what
Arizona looked like out there.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Arizona was bro it was New Year's Eve, it's New
Year's Day.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
All I can tell.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You is, if you've ever been to Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
On a regular day, on a regular weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know, they call it Sunday Funday around here, you know,
because Sunday is like the day that's like there deemed
Friday or Saturday for most places. Right, if you've ever
been here for that, you know what what the environment
is in Scottsdale. I've never been here for I've never
been here for for New Year's. I've never been here
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for New year and I ain't never coming back.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And I don't know why I'm doing this show today.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Can't do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But there's there's a there's a reason why a lot
of retired baseball players retire in Arizona because they go
out there for spring training during the course of their
career and they go you know what, it's the taxes.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
They come out here. It's purely because of the taxes.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's right. It's that blonde tax.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh, it's that silicone tax.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Damn man, damn they called him. They called a mountain
out here, camel Back Mountain, and they got it right.
They got it right. God dang it, they got it right.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio, it's
Lebar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up next
here though, on Fox Sports Radio. Listen, this shouldn't have
even gotten this far. This discussion about somebody in the
NFL shouldn't have even got this far, but apparently here
we are. We'll get into that for you next here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
and neonone Easter nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin and the crew here,
and happy New Year to you and yours out there.
Coming up in about twenty minutes from now here on FSR,
A little parting gift from one organization to one player
in the NFL, A little parting gift. We'll have the
details on that for you here on Fox Sports Radio.
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So Var, I mean, this is just a real stunter.
You talk about breaking news out of the NFL. Niners
owner Jed York has told the San Francisco Standard that
Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch aren't going anywhere, which is
which is a real whoa which I gotta tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Do we have the breaking news? Do we have the
breaking news effect? Can we do that again. You know what, Chris,
do you have the breaking news?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I don't want I don't want Dan to get mad
at me.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're talking about news that really knocked my d in
the dirt. Just a real stutter. This was this was
thrown out there. This was thrown out there. It's not
it's not to take shots and Mike Florio does a
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great job, but this was thrown out there as a Hey,
what if for Mike Florio that for some reason spread
like wildfire, Like I don't get it, Like I didn't
understand it. Oh, maybe maybe the Bears should call up
Kyle Shannan the Niners. And because it feels like it's
run its course. Dude, they had a down year coming
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off a Super Bowl. I'm not I'm saying the window
hasn't closed as far as this window, this championship window
for the forty nine ers, But getting rid of those
guys doesn't exactly open up another one.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Quicker like it feels like you got rebuild. Yeah, Like
it feels like like that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Now you're building, finding a new coach, finding a new
GM Like everybody wants a Kyle Shanahan branch off the
tree when they hire coaches. Now, why would the Niners
let him walk for any reason whatsoever other than he
just wanted out of there, which he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And I think the same thing exists for John Lynch
as well. If you're going to have to rebuild a
team like that team went to two super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Correct, Yeah, like.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, he's they taking the the
kind of core pieces of that that forty nine ers seaman,
they've gone to multiple super Bowls and they've had a
ton of success. They add Christian McCaffrey, it looked as
though they were going to have more success than what
they did before. Maybe that takes them over the top.
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But you dealt with injuries. I mean they might if
Greenlaw doesn't go down and that Super Bowl, maybe that
Super Bowl plays out differently. Yeah, you know, you know
there's so many different things that have happened to this
this forty nine Ers team injury wise, that you would say,
if this didn't happen, where are they at?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Right? If the lights don't go out, where are they at?
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Which that wasn't that was horriball, But I'm just saying,
at the end of the day, the forty nine ers
have had some things happen to them where you'd be like,
if this didn't happen, what would have what could have been?
If I'm going to if I'm going to have to
start over because of contracts, because of players that are
you know, injured or retiring or whatever it may be,
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if I'm going to rebuild, I'm not looking for a
different GM and a different coach than John Lynch Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
To do it. Like I'm just not so that.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
It really is kind of a comical conversation because that
the team that they have right now. Sure, sure they
they've underperformed this year, but when you take a good
heart look at the body of work and what they've
had to do with main pieces, these weren't These weren't
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just you know, cogs of the machine that you could
just replace. These were main guys. Trent Williams going down
like he's arguably I mean, he's up there with the
greatest offensive tackles to ever play the game.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
He's down, he's hurt. You know, I goes out.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
So now your number one threat, your downfield threats, he's
not even there. After you spend a whole entire offseason
trying to figure out what you were going to do
with the situation. Deebo Samuels was dealing with injuries this year,
Rock Purdy was dealing with injuries this year, still dealing
with them. Now your whole team was decimated. Greenlalg couldn't
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come back. He tried, he couldn't even come back. You
were decimated with with just just as much as a
team like Detroit. You know, you could look at Detroit's
injuries and say that there there are you know, there
would have been reasons for them not to do well
at some point based off of all of those injuries. Well,
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it happened to San Fran this year. They weren't able
to overcome their injuries. I don't think it was coaching.
I don't think it was the way that the team
is being ran by the GM and I just think
that you ran into a situation where you had to
navigate what you had to navigated.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
It was a snake bit year. I mean, like all
the stuff that happened before the year, McCaffrey. You know,
to your point, the injury that was really mysterious. They
thought he was going to play the first week of
the season, and then I was like, no, maybe he's
gonna be outil November.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Wait what like that?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
He like that wasn't anywhere on the injury report we
were told about. And then you had the Brandon Ayuk
injury and before the season it was contract and you
know there was issues at practice where he didn't want
to wear the same color pants or shorts as everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Like there was just always something.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
You had a guy get shot, like Pierce All got
shot at three in the afternoon in San Francisco because
somebody wanted his rolex. Just like it felt like everything
that was going to go wrong with this that could
go wrong for this team went wrong this year. And
one of the things that I do think is so
they talk about, well, you know, they've gotten to the
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super Bowl, they've come up short, so they need to
make some changes. First of all, you came up short
to Patrick Mahomes. Secondly, you probably should have won both
those games. And thirdly, you remember the conversation that everyone always
has about Joe Gibbs. They talk about all you know, listen,
he's he's taken, He's won a super Bowl with all
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these different core back So you're giving a certain amount
of credit if you can do it with different guys
and not just the same quarterback every time. Dude, Kyle
Shanahan took Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purty to the Super Bowl. Like,
it's not like he's had a one year Oh listen,
it was this one time and other than that they've
fallen apart. Like no, no, Like he's taken multiple and
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been a part of multiple teams with different looks at
that position to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know what more.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Evidence you need to understand that, Yeah, this guy kind
of knows what he's doing. He kind of knows how
to build around that position.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Here.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Well, in Washington's case, they could have won with any
quarterback because of the personnel that they had, you know,
with the Hogs, you know, with their their backfield, with
their receivers, with the with the posse. You know, they
could have won with any quarterback, and they did when
with any quarterback. I think this is a different situation
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with with San Francisco, and I think that you've you've
seen a team with with Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Evolved through the years.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I think his his offensive prowess has been a tremendous
asset to him, but He's ultimately going to have to
adjust and adapt and evolve if he's going to continue
to have the success what was new, fresh but yet
mixed and meshed in with the old way of how
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things were done, like how his his father did things
with the offenses, and the brilliance that he was able
to bring with that zone blocking scheme, well, Kyle Shanahan
evolved it and molded it in a way where he
made it his and I think he's got to do
it again.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I think he's got to do it again.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
They just they got to stay healthy, They got to
figure out who's going to be on this roster. And
I think it just kind of is as simple as
that Jonas is that there has to be an evolution
as to what he's doing offensively, and you'd assume that
he'll self scout in the off season and he'll start
to figure out ways that he can have more success
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than what he did and possibly ultimately maybe had more success.
Even if or have success, I say, a measure of
success even if you find yourself dealing with the injuries,
because again, with what you got Ben Johnson doing and
Dan Campbell and Detroit, they haven't they haven't fallen off
because of injuries. If there's any team that could blame
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injuries for a fall off, it would have been Detroit.
And they have not. They have not fallen off, and
they have been able to maintain a high level of execution.
And I think that that's what these guys are going
to have to focus in on in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, I just I don't know how that makes your
team better. I don't you know, like well, you know,
it's just it's really run its court. Because look, the
Raiders giving away John Grew, Like there's probably you know,
if you were to go back and look at that
and say, well, they traded away Gruden, but yeah, that
probably a regrettable moment, especially in the Super Bowl when
Gruden knew exactly what plays they were running, and that's
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you know what led to Tampa Bay winning that game.
I just sometimes this stuff is thrown out there and
people just run with it. And like I said, I
don't blame Florio for throwing stuff out there, Like he'll
he'll throw out and he'll speculate about stuff, and then
that's say throw out, Oh okay, did you see any
people you know, letting it letting it fly?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Out there.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Nobody real pros.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I can really handle it out there.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
There to handle their business. Last night?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh yeah, so we will you know, listen.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
To nobody carried out, nothing like just I mean, they
had to kick people out.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Did you make it? Did you make it all the
way to midnight?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah? I was? I was. I was out. How was that?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I was out last night? LeVar was out? La was
out last night. But I was in my hotel, so maybe.
But I am at the Ambassador, So it was this
was a vibe. It was a vibe here.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Nothing better.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I was underdressed. I was terribly underdressed. But I had
just left from a football game, so I wasn't going
to switch it up, you know what I mean. I
just went with it. But I was terribly underdressed.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Our guy Ker Krutchmeyer is actually making the track. He
was at the game last night. He's en route. He
sent me a text a little while ago saying he's
driving to the Rose Bowl as we speak.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So he's oh wow, on.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
The commute from Arizona or did the Rose Bowl?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
To watch?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Watch that big one there between Oregon Ohio State, which
is going to be a beast of a game. That's
gonna be that's gonna be a lot of fun. So yeah, listen,
it looks like Arizona showed up. What was the crowd
split by.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
The way, it might have been sixty forty maybe fifty five,
you know, forty five maybe you know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And it was Boise.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
They were there, man, they they they showed up, but
it was almost split down the line. But but Boise
they were they were louder. They were definitely louder. So
it felt like a Boise home game.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Did Were you on the sidelines in like a hunting
hat or something like this? Yeah, okay, it's somebody. Uh
somebody sent a tweet asking if that was you, So
that was me.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
It wasn't sure what the attire was or.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, it's my stick city hat, that's all. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
I got to stay with my son, which was really cool.
Who's now a member of the football team, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's no, that's awesome. Yeah, listen, it was uh, look,
I enjoyed the game. I thought it was a fun game.
Ashton got lit up after a turnover.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
That was they was hunting him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Now, that was very nice.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He got it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
He got his yardage. But they hey, them boys was
out there hunting him. I can guarantee you that young
man is sore as hell today.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
They was slamming him all over the place, man, and
they was thumping him. So but he's a warrior, man.
I liked his I like his game.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Man.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
He definitely is a warrior and he's going to be
a good one for for years to come.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
So he was.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
He was literally in a shootout like Boise State was
in a shootout against Oregon. It was Dylan Gabriel against
Ashton gent Like. He was just ripping off seventy yard
runs in that game to keep keep him alive. So
he had a fantastic year, man, really really good.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
He had a he had a brilliant game yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
It's I mean, you have a defense like that that's
built the way that it's built upfront and has athletes
on the back end. I mean, and he was still
able to re two hundred yards man like, and everybody
in the world, everybody in the stadium, everybody on the field,
everybody knew that every play, every other play, you got it.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Just listen, just go.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
After genty every single play, Like, don't worry about anything.
Else just worry about getting to genty and he was
still able to get to one hundred yards, so that's
pretty special.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Man.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I was watching the Hawaii Boise State game because I
have no life, and I was watching it on I
don't even know what the name of the app is,
but I think it's like Team one Sports because that's
the only way you can watch Hawaii games, or that
one might have been on CVS whatever it was on,
and I was watching it earlier in the year, and
I'm listening to the to the broadcasters from Hawaii be like, you.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Know, listen.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I mean, look, I know the Rainbow Warriors are trailing
right now, but I've done a really good job at
containing Ashton gent and he was still averaging like seven
point nine yards of carry, Like every time he touched
the ball, he was picking up eight yards of clips.
So that looked significantly different than last night where he
was getting a beating at a.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Certain points during that game.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But represented themselves well.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And there's some thought I saw a mock draft that
came out that some people think he there's a shot
he might be a top ten pick. So the running
back is resurging.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
So I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Wouldn't get carried away on running backs resurging, but he is.
I mean Q brought him up early on in the
season and you guys talked about him, and I started
paying attention to him after that. I mean, he literally
almost beat Organ and Oregon is the best team in
America right now. I mean, you know, it could be debatable,
and you know if it's Ohio State, but I think
(32:42):
it's it's Organ for now. And they had to beat
them with a last second kick. Yeah, and that's really
largely in part what Genti was able to do in
that game. So yeah, man, I give him his props.
I give Boise their props. You know, they went out
there and they fought, and they played a you know,
it was a valiant effort. If you ask me, it
was not a just a runaway game. It was not
(33:06):
just a runaway game. It had the potential to go
There was like two or three times during that game
where the momentum had clearly shifted one side to the
other and it could have gone either way at those
points in time. And so anytime you are a part
of a game like that, you know, you you come
(33:26):
away from that game knowing that you were in a
game and you had to win that game. They belonged there,
and it was to me, it was a super competitive game,
and and good for them, good good for good for Ashton,
Genty and and Boise coming in and playing the way
that they.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Did, and hopefully their fan base got to stick around
after the game. It just went out and got lit
up in Arizona.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Afterwards, some dude tried to fight me, really me, Oh,
he tried to fight me. I was on my way
to to where you know, we were going to depart,
and you know, some of the people with me were
doing the we are chat and I guess the two
dudes that were walking back, one dude bumped me like
like he bumped me, like and it was late, like
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I caught onto it late, Jonas, you know, like like
did this guy just bumped me?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I turned.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
I didn't know what it was until I right. I
turned and I saw that it was a guy with
Boise State orange on right, So then I realized that
he had bumped me on purpose, you know. So then
it was too late, like it would have been too
late for me to run back up on him, you
know what I mean, and throw down. So I let
(34:38):
that one go. Then we're walking and we're not like,
you know, we're not too far away from the first
incident that takes place. And the people I'm with, they're
saying the we are chant this, that and the other,
and this dude go.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
He looks at me, he goes.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Fu u f and push yeah, and then he said
look look and then he said he said, you off,
I'll whip you.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And I'm looking at the.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Dude, I'm going to punch your face.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I went into tunnel vision, bro, I went to the
tunnel vision. I almost it almost went down last Ye.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah I heard that because I actually did see a
report on that that you lifted up your shirt and said,
we got.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
A problem here, we got a problem here.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
And then like everybody's kind of jumping there convertible and
sped off.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
So yeah, that was just it could have been all
about the burner. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Go to Berner dot com slash LeVar, you get you
a nice little burner that's non lethal.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Rowns people. Damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
He could have got it, He could have got popped.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
It's the herd, so belligerent ass.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
It is the Herd. On Fox Sports Radio. It's LaVar Errington,
Jonas knox In for Colin coming up.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Flamped out like uh Ashton genty, Come it up.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're gonna tell you about a parting gift from one
organization to one player in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's next. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays at noon easternn am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's a Herd Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Jonas knox
In for Colin. Coming up top of next hour. A
little over ten minutes from now We're going to tell
you about a major decision, a major decision in the NFL.
We are getting very close to that decision being made.
We'll get into that for you again a little over
ten minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. A reminder,
(36:27):
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
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there tomorrow. So right now, though, it is time for this.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
No no turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
This is the herd Line News, all right, lead to lap.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
What do we got, well, guys, Casey is this Cowboys
cut running back Ezekiel Elliott yesterday and in a statement
from Jerry Jones, he says, out of respect and appreciation
for Zeke and wanting to provide him with an opportunity
to pursue any potential playoff participation possible, we are releasing
him from the Cowboys roster today, adding, as I have
said many times previously, Zeke's impact as one of the
(37:32):
greatest ever play with the star on his helmet, will
never change and has etched into our record books and
history forever.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Oh why did I not release in Michael Parsons then
damn yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Why is Zeke get all the good breaks?
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Get my homie an opportunity to play for something.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
By the way, I do like how they're out of
the goodness of their heart, they're releasing Ezekiel Elliott to
go find a playoff roster. That's like somebody who spends
seventy five dollars at of an eighty dollars gift card
and says, here, man, merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Wait wait what there's five bucks left? What are we
doing here?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Do the same thing with Michael Parsons And I want
to hear the same exact statement.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
What else we got guys?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
In case you missed this, Shane Biemer flipped out after
a in the Bowl game the cheese at the Bowl
after Brett Bielima was taunting him. He was checking on
his injured player and then started taunting Beemer by making
a motion for a substitution.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Well, because they they were going back and forth because
there was some complaints about how long it was taking
Illinois to do some of their I guess you know
when they were trying to bring players in and out
and substituting guys.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Yeah, because yeah, you got to give them the time
to get off the field when you do the substitution.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
So they was you can slow the game down that way.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Beemer was complaining and they were all chummy before the game,
and then when Beilima came over and did the did
the substitution taunting to their headline, Beemer tried to go
after him and everyone was waiting, had the postgame handshake
for them to potentially throw down, and it was just cordial,
kind of boring, to be honest with you, But man,
Illinois give credit. You remember a couple of years ago
(39:12):
on two pros we were having the conversation about Brett Beilima,
who called out his offensive lineman and everyone was like,
you can't do that to your players. What he dude,
He's completely turned around that program, like completely yeah, really
tough and you know, so it's a good, good story
there in Champagne.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
What else you got, guys?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Though there wasn't much to play for, the Lions forty
nine Ers game on Monday Night football was actually the
most watched Monday night football game of the season, drawing.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Twenty two point two million viewers. ESPN added that it
was one of the.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Five most watched Monday night football games since they've been
carrying it since two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Lee, why do you think that was? Well, well, why
do you think that was?
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Maybe fantasy football has. That's right, one hundred percent. That's
what it was like.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That was fantasy football that had everything to do with that. Again,
at little money into things, add some gambling into your sports,
and next thing you know, stuff becomes interesting. I'm telling
you it's the plastic surgery of sports. Throw some bets
on there, make it happen, and all of a sudden
it gets more entertaining and more watchable works every time
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