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Today on The Herd, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill-in and tell critics to stop complaining about the new College Football Playoff format. LaVar rips the Eagles for sitting Saquon Barkley when he's only 101 yards shy of Eric Dickerson’s single-season rushing record. Following the attack on Bourbon Street, the Sugar Bowl is officially postponed to Thursday. All that and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I would like to say this, and we were efforting
catching up with Lebar Arrington, who by the way, is
in Arizona where his Penn State Nitney alliance took care
of business last night and took care of business against
Boise State. And the game kind of played out pretty
much how you expected the game to play out. That
Boise State was going to battle because they play hard.

(00:46):
If Ashton Genty didn't have a big time monster performance,
then Boise State was going to be up against it.
But ultimately Penn State was the better team. They were
favored by eleven, twelve points whatever that going into the
game for a reason, and Penn State got it done.
And so what we've gotten thus far through the first

(01:07):
five games of the College Football Playoff, this new expanded
twelve team college Football Playoff, what we've gotten is basically chock,
You've gotten all the results that you expected, and you've gotten,
for the most part, pretty uncompetitive games, and so the

(01:29):
feeling would be all right, Well, then what was the
point of this? I mean, I thought this was supposed
to add some intrigue. I thought this was supposed to
add a new layer to college football. I thought that
the College Football Playoff was supposed to give us a
different viewpoint and a different look and a different vibe
when it comes to the entire thing. So what was
the point? And my pushback on that would be, what's

(01:51):
the complaint? Like, there is no guarantees that when you
go into this thing that you're gonna get good games.
There's no guarantee. And I got news for you, there's
no guarantees you're gonna get good games whatever you turn
on football or basketball or baseball. Like, there's no guarantees.

(02:13):
You ever gotten to a movie, walked in and been like, man,
really excited about this thing. Half hour in you're like,
this sucked out loud. It happens. Now you could be
one of those people who walks up to the person
who ripped your ticket, who probably doesn't want to be
there anyways, and be like, Hey, movie didn't live up

(02:34):
to my expectations. Can I get my thirteen twenty five back?
And by the way, the popcorn was a little dry.
You could take that approach. You could be one of
those nerds who, after many pakiaw fought Floyd Mayweather and
people shelled out one hundred dollars to watch the fight,
who went and complained afterwards and said, I've paid one

(02:56):
hundred dollars for this, had a ten live up to
my expectations, okay, And then they found out Manny Pacio
had like a torn rotator cuff, and they thought, you
know what, he should have disclosed that before the fight,
because otherwise I would have felt a lot differently about
shelling out one hundred dollars. Dude, what are you bitching about?

(03:17):
If the guy didn't fight, you would to complain then
if you would have pulled out last minute and canceled.
But this is the problem when it comes to college football.
No matter what, you're going to have a complaint because
I got news for you. It could have been a
twelve team playoff, it could have been a sixteen team playoff.

(03:38):
You could have thrown in twenty teams. Christ you could
have done a sixty four team field like college basketball,
and somebody somewhere would have found a way to complain
because that's what it is. That's what college football has
bred complaints. Like every single story that comes out of

(03:59):
call Football, somebody's on the opposite side pounding the table
against it. Cam Ward decides, hey, you know what, I
want to go chase a record and then I want
to sit out the second half.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
How dare he?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wait?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
What? It was a pop Tarts Bowl? Like you literally
had an unhealthy toasted strudel jump out of a giant
fake toaster at the end of the game, and people
were pissed because some guy didn't participate in all of it.

(04:38):
What are we talking about here? Did you see the
cheese It Bowl yesterday? You had people getting married at
the cheese It bull It's the cheese It Bowl? Like
there was a guy sitting in a jacuzzi filled with

(05:00):
crackers talking about the snack, not trying to win an
Antonio Brown Award. But if he wants to hand out
any more of those, I'll gladly accept. But the point is,
no matter what, there's going to be a complaint, and
there's gonna be a problem and I looked at last
night bar and I thought to myself, you know what, Hey,

(05:20):
Penn State took care of business. Boise State played hard,
But I would not rather go back to a four
team college football playoff because at least she gave the
underdog a chance in that spot.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I mean, they weren't the underdog. They were ranked higher,
they came in seed at higher, they had a bye
week because of what they accomplished during the season. I
think that there's going to always be debates of why
people like something and why they don't. Otherwise there wouldn't
be any topics, like nobody's ever going to get a

(05:53):
perfect scenario for a playoff, and you're not always like
to me, I've been really thinking of this, right. It's
like they're saying their commitment is to get the best
teams into the playoff, and so there's all these different variables.
Your strength is schedule and stuff like that. There's all

(06:15):
these different variables. But at the end of the day,
jonas you set up the schedule, you know what the
schedule is coming in, right, So if a team wins
out with their schedule knowing when they come into the
season that it's not a schedule that's strong enough to
outweigh the other schedules that are out there, then you,

(06:38):
I would say, you judge it based off of that,
if you want to try and do it based off
of strength to schedule.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
But at the end of the day, I think, to.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Me, if you win your conference, and if you're a
team that has shown with their record, if like say
it's an independent like Notre Dame, if you've shown what
you're record that you should be in the playoff, then
be in the playoff. And let's line them up, let's

(07:08):
do the playoff, and who wins wins.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Who loses loses.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
I just think that it gets crazy to me because
here's the narrative. Here's the narrative. Oh, these aren't the
best teams. The best teams aren't in there. Alabama should
have been in there. Alabama just lost yesterday. Alabama lost, Like, oh,
this team, this team should have been in there. Miami
should have been in there. Miami lost. Okay, Oh, you
had opt outs. Maybe the opt outs play, maybe cam

(07:36):
Ward plays. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
They lost. They lost.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
So there is no justification for saying some of these
teams that didn't play in the playoff should have been
in the playoff because some of those teams have lost
their bowl games that they're playing in. So to me,
if a team gets granted and earns the opportunity to
be in the playoff and the bracket is made, shut

(08:00):
the f up and enjoy the bracket, enjoy the games,
Like what else is there to it? I don't understand
why there's such outrage. If Boise beats If Boise beats
Penn State, are people complaining? If Indiana beats Notre Dame?
Are people complaining? If the lower seed teams that get

(08:23):
in beat the higher seed teams, are people still complaining.
They'll probably find something different, a different narrative to complain about,
but they're still going to be complaining. You're not going
to make all of the pundits happy, You're not going
to make all of the fans happy. You're not going
to make everybody happy with what it is that the
College Playoff represents. So keep the number the same. I

(08:46):
love the fact that there's a bracket and a tournament
that has this many teams.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I like the fact that you.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Have matchups, and in the matchups have been made by
the schedule makers, by the bracket makers, the tournament makers.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Just accept it for what it is and enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
My god, what is all of the outrage for all
of the time it's weird.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
And for the people that are like, well, it's not
the best teams all right? Well, you know how you
determine the best teams. You play games during the regular season,
and this is you know, this is going to be
a weird concept. But if you win a lot of
those and don't lose a lot of those, you are
determined to be the best team in college football. And
there were teams that lost less than Miami and Alabama.

(09:33):
Thus they got in and Miami and Alabama didn't. That's
the way this works, I understand. Straight the schedule best teams.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah, the best teams don't always perform well enough to
make it in. Like that's just the bottom line. They
might have been a better team, but something happened that said, Okay,
they're not the best team, or they didn't play the
best game, like that could have been Notre Dame with
that Northern Illinoi's loss, right Illinois, Like that could have
been a you know, that could have been something that

(10:03):
kept them out.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know, you just never know.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It's just they're so people are so conditioned to complain
and bitch about college football.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
That they can't.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, and they can't. They can't just let it be. Listen,
there's no guarantees that you're going to get a good
game every single time. And so so Penn State did
what they've supposed to, what they were supposed to do
in time.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yes, they were that was a game last night like that.
People weren't. People were nervous in stadium.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
The game didn't look like the SMU game where SMU
completely melted. I mean, they couldn't handle the conditions. They
couldn't handle the stage. They looked like they were rattled
from the get go, like there were opportunities, like it
wasn't a clean game for Penn State. They turned the
ball over like so I came away from that going
Penn State did what they should have done, and I

(10:59):
thought Boise State represented themselves well. But it played out
how you would have expected it. If they were if
they could stop Ashton gent, which they did for the
most part, then they were going to have success. Like
I I look at it and I think.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
I think the beef, what's the beef?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And I think that also there's a lot of people
that hold on to the narratives that you have about
certain programs or coaches going into things. And you know
the narrative about James Franklin, Well, he doesn't win big games.
He doesn't win big games. Look at his record against
this team, this team, and this team, and blah blah blah.

(11:34):
So the hope games, yes, it's so.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
The hope is we got beef with Franklin over two teams.
It's two teams.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
So the hope is we need James Franklin to lose
so we can hold on to the take that we
had three weeks ago when they lost to you know,
Ohio State or they lost to Oregon. It's like, I
just I look at it and I think to myself,
we're better off this way. And I'm one of those
people that I didn't agree with expanding past four teams.
I thought, no, four, Fine, if you're gonna do anything,
go to six. Give a bye to the first two,

(12:03):
and then you have your semi fun. And then I
start to look at it and go, First of all,
I'm arguing upstream because it's more money, and the money
dictates everything, so it's gonna happen regardless. And secondly, it's
the first year. We don't know. Look, we don't know
how these games Arizona State could upset Texas. We don't
know is that is all of a sudden the college

(12:24):
football playoff gonna be worthwhile because Arizona State Upstates upsets Texas. Like,
there's no guarantees you're gonna get good matchups. Do you
remember watching super Bowls in the eighties, there was like
a stretch to where every Super Bowl was a blowout
for like nine ten years in a row. I didn't
see people complaining and they're like, oh, they've got to
redo this whole super Bowl thing. No, you just understood. Hey,

(12:46):
best team from this conference, best team from that conference.
They get together. Hopefully we get a good game. But
there's no guarantees.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
That's the point, Jonas.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Sports are sports, Like, if you're not a decision maker
for the playoffs, watch the games and enjoy the games.
Like why does there have to be all these conspiracy
theories and like I said, for sports talk radios, for
sports talk television, podcasting and all, I get it. But
the more people try to sound smart about it, the

(13:16):
dumber they sound, like, let it play out it's a game.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
You play the game.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
And if you've earn't the right by what took place
during the season. If you're in there and I don't
care about you arguing, well, maybe you didn't earn the right.
Yeah you did it cause you're in. You got in.
So if you got in, you got in. Play the games.
Play the games. The brackets are the brackets. Play the games.

(13:43):
Like if it's what you expected, good, bet money. If
you're so brilliant, bet money and become a billionaire. Bet
all your money. Go bet your house, your home, your kids,
your wife, your husband, whoever.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Go bet it all. If you got it so figured out,
go bet it all.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
If these teams aren't supposed to be here, that you're
saying and this that at all, go ahead, give.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
It all up. Hey, let's see how confident you are.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Let me tell you so. Look, I've been the I've
been pounding the table for We've got to start building
this stuff around gambling because it's it makes things interesting
when they probably shouldn't be. And I'll say this. When
Boise State was driving down the field and it looked
like they were going to score that garbage time touchdown
that would have impacted a significant amount of bets who
had Penn State minus eleven. They're holding on to that

(14:27):
seventeen point lead and people are sweating their balls off
thinking of themselves, Oh god, I'm gonna lose here on
a garbage time touchdown. But Penn State picked it off
of the end zone and they and it saved the day.
Find something, find something compelling about it. If you get
a plain piece of chicken at a restaurant, ask for
some hot sauce. Gambling is the hot sauce of sports,

(14:49):
and people need to start embracing it. For Christ's sake.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I love that. That's a T shirt.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Damn right.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
If you don't like a regular wing, get some dipensaz.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you if you don't put buffalo sauce on a wing,
what is it to trump stand buffalo wing?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Oh man? That is sure.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
By the way, well, we'll say we'll get details from
you throughout the course of the show on what what
Arizona looked like out there.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Arizona was bro it was New Year's Eve, it's New
Year's Day.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
All I can tell.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
You is, if you've ever been to Scottsdale, Arizona.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
On a regular day on a regular weekend.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know, they call it Sunday Funday around here, you know,
because Sunday is like the day that's like there deemed
Friday or Saturday for most places. Right, if you've ever
been here for that, you know what what the environment
is in Scottsdale. I've never been here for I've never
been here for.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
For New Year's.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
I've never been here for New year and I ain't
never coming back. And I don't know why I'm doing
this show today.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Can't do it, do it.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
But there's a there's a there's a reason why a
lot of retired baseball players retire in Arizona because they
go out there for spring training during the course of
their career and they go you.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Know what, it's the taxes. They come out here. It's
purely because of the taxes.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
That's right. It's that blonde tax. Oh, it's that silicone tax.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Damn man, damn they called him. They called a mountain
out here, camel Back Mountain, and they got it right.
They got it right. God dang it, they got it right.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
It is the herd here. On Fox Sports Radio, it's
Lebar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin coming up, next here, though,
on Fox Sports Radio. Listen, this shouldn't have even gotten
this far. This discussion about somebody in the NFL shouldn't
have even got this far, but apparently here we are.
We'll get into that for you next here on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
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Speaker 3 (17:14):
The other running back in the news is Saquon Barkley,
and Saquon Barkley has got an opportunity. He's one hundred
and one yard shy of breaking the all time single
season rushing record, and so the big discussion is, well,
Philly's got nothing to play for. They're taking on his
former team, the awful Giants, this week. And if Philly's

(17:35):
got nothing to play for, why would you risk throwing
Saquon Barkley out there to get injured. You'd rather have
him for the postseason, even though he's got an opportunity
to chase history. Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Eagles,
spoke about his decision and thought process going into the
decision yesterday.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
I'll talk to our staff, I'll talk to the players.
I'll talk to Howie, you know, I'll talk to mister Laurie.
I'll talk to everybody and to try to make sure
I'm making the best decision for the football team. And
that's your job as a head coach. Well, you know,
I'm going to always do what's best for the team
and the individuals going going for that. And I'm still
thinking through a little bit of this too, But something

(18:15):
I haven't told the guys yet, so I'll always let
them know before I let anybody else take into a
lot to account. Again, it's it's what's the best thing
for the team, and then also what's the best for
the individuals that are going for the record. You know,
if you think back a couple of years ago to
twenty twenty one, Smitty was going for the rookie receiving record.
I think he was going to break to Shawn Jackson's
rookie receiving record, and everybody else was resting. But we

(18:37):
wanted for everyone else was whatever it was. We didn't
we didn't play some other guys in that game. We
went and got him that record. Every situation is a
little different, not saying one way or the other, how
that's going to play out, or even that I've made
the decision yet. But again, I got to tell the
guys first when I do come to that decision, and
I'll let you guys know. But a lot goes into.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It, all right, So Lebar, you have a gift, all right.
Now you just hear, you're able to hear what a
coach is saying, but really translate what he's saying or
get a feeling for what way they're siding with if
sar as a decision goes and then making a decision.
So you hear Nick Sirianni on WIP and Philly yesterday
talk like that, how do you think this thing goes?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Well?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
I think there's two ways. I interpreted it, two ways, Jonas.
I think the first one that I took from it
is because you don't what do you need to talk
to all those people about, Like if the man wants
to go out there and play, and you know what
he's going out there to play for, what's all the

(19:39):
goes into it and all this and that and the other.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
So there's that.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
So I kind of took it as he's talking to
all of them because he's going to play them and
he don't want to lose his ass if you know,
if Saquon is something were to happen to Saquon in
that game or to you know, or option number two.
The way I took it was, I'm not playing them

(20:06):
and I don't care if you know, or I shouldn't
say I don't care. I want to be clear that
we're on the same page that I mean, how important
is this record because here's the thing. We're looking at
this as an individual record, but you got to keep
in mind that goes down in the record book for
the Eagles too, you know, and that adds to the

(20:26):
history for the Eagles. The Eagles will now be able
to boast having the single season leader in rushing yards, right,
So there is more to it than just the individual Yeah.
So I think that those are the two ways of
looking at it is. I don't want to get in
trouble if I put him in there and he gets hurt,

(20:47):
Like it's like sign me off, sign off on that.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
So going into hearing those comments and following those comments,
my thought was I leaned towards he was going to play,
but I looked at it and said I wouldn't do it.
But it felt like that's maybe where he was leaning.
Nick Sirianni just spoke with reporters in Philly a couple
of moments ago, and they have made the decision to

(21:13):
rest Saquon Barkley and other starters. And this is my
thought on it.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
That is crazy. Well, I think that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I think the only way. So the quote from Nick
Sirianni is this, it's a very special record that's been
standing for a very long time by a great player.
But you try to do what's best for the team.
When the buye was how guys are feeling when the
buye was gone, how guys are feeling. Our goals are
to have success and play good the next game we play.
So that's the quot from Nick.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Yeah, that's that's a bunch of crap. Like that to me,
I don't buy that at all. That like that man
ran for the amount of yards that he's ran for
and to be in position to take down one of
the greatest running backs of all time, who Dick one
of the greatest feats of all time in putting that

(22:00):
record in place where it has not been. It has
not been broken, It has not been broken, and this
man is one hundred yards away from doing it, and
it's to rest him for the playoffs. Yeah, I don't.
I mean, you play the game. You played the game,

(22:20):
you know what I think? So aren't they going let
me ask you this, Let me ask you this, this
last game of the year.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Does does Philly get a bye week? Now? They got
to play right away? Yeah? And they're not going to
be a one seed.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah's And that's why I going into it. I thought, Look,
if they would have had a bye week, I could
understand them playing him because hey, listen, we're getting next
week to rest. Anyways, let's do it. But my thought
if I was you know, before hearing the Nick Sirianni's
comments from yesterday, I started to lean towards man, I
think they're going to end up playing him. When you
hear his comments today, after they make the official announcement

(22:57):
that they're not going to play Saquon Barkley and Chase
the record and they're going to rest starters, I got
a feeling they wouldn't have done this.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
I'm with you on that because I can, I can,
I can, I can bad as.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
You because there was a point so he was miked up.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
But why I put him but and he said the
record didn't matter to well, so listen.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Earlier this year there was a point where he was
on the sideline and there was an opportunity for him
to break a record of some sorts to go back
into the game, and they asked, Hey, what do you
want to do. It's up to you. It's your call.
And Saquon Barkley, because he's such a great guy and
you know this obviously him be in Penn State alum,
he made the call that listen, let other guys get
some burn time. I don't I don't need to go
back in. So I don't think that they make this

(23:39):
call unless he gives them his blessing and the Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Just don't like it. I don't like it. I don't
like it.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
I don't like for him to have to be put
in a position where that's just like him being a
good guy can ultimately sometimes that can work against you.
And that might sound selfish, and that might sound like
you know, you know, I don't know what it sounds like,
but I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
You're that close to it. You're a professional.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
It's the game, it's the season, and you work towards
things like you. You work towards greatness, you work towards
immortality because you know the moment you're not playing that
game anymore, you start to see and feel your mortality.

(24:28):
You're not an immortal anymore. And now you start down
a different road in your life when you have the
opportunity and the ability to be able to do things
like break records of the greatest of the greats. So
you're telling me, they would look they would rest Lebron
James if Lebron James had the opportunity to break a
record from Michael Jordan or or any of the other greats.

(24:51):
You know, when he broke Kareem Abdul Jabbar's record, stuff
like that, you're gonna rest him like that? To me,
that's an overstated that's an overstated cop out. If you
ask me like resting you're in season, aren't you preparing
for a season? When you're preparing for the season, you're

(25:11):
not preparing for every game that you're going to play
and possibly play in the playoffs. All right, he's not
I mean, he's not crazy old. I know he's had injuries,
and I'm sure you take that into consideration. It's just
he'll he probably will never come this close to that
record again. He'll probably never come that close to this

(25:32):
record again. And it's oh, he's a nice guy, so
go ahead and rest him because he's not going to
care or that that record. Well, maybe it'll matter to
his kids, maybe it'll matter to his grandkids. You know
how much that record matters to Eric Dickerson. He don't
want nobody to break that record.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
And he'll let you know that is a that is
a serious feat.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
And people say, oh, well he played more games, Well,
you know the record that he broke. Oj Simpson played
less games too, So I don't care about the whole
idea that, well, Saquan is doing it in more games
than what Eric Dickerson did.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't care you didn't like what I That was
my excuse.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
It doesn't matter. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
He broke somebody's record that didn't play as many games
as Eric Dickerson did. But you know what, Eric Dickerson
went and broke that record. I can't remember a whole
lot of things about Eric Dickerson's career by detail.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
When you think about people that have played the game,
you can't remember a lot of things that they've done
by detail. You know what, you can remember records. You
can remember records. There's certain things you can remember, man,
but you don't remember everything. You get an opportunity to
etch your name in the record books as such, the
highest level of competition, and you're saying, oh, well, we're

(26:58):
going to rest them. Were the playoffs? I don't I
don't buy at That's not a decision I would have made.
If I'm like, let's get this man that record, Like
I'm the coach, let's get him, Let's get him that record.
And if I'm the old line, I'm sitting there and
I got snot bubbles, and I got saliva coming out
of my mouth. Oh kay, let's get it. I'm foaming

(27:19):
at the mouth. Let's get him that record. Because you
know what, that's the offensive lines record just as much
as it is Saquon's record.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Here's what's uh, here's what's weird about just And this
is why I think that Saquon was obviously heavily involved
in this, and he was a decision maker. If Jeffrey
Laurie and Howarie Roseman and and all these guys in
Philadelphia the front office said no, no, no, we don't
want him playing and you had all these teammates being like, Saquon,
it's not worth it. And then they go to Saquon
Barkley afterwards, Hey, your thoughts. We don't think it's a

(27:49):
good idea. No, I want to play, Like Nick Sirianni's
not going to go against everybody in the organization and
or and and let Sequon play and he's not going
to divide and create this divide when there's already been
stories about a divide that's there between Sirianni and their
coaches and Sirianni and Hurts and aj Brennell. Like, to me,

(28:10):
this is pretty cut and dry. They went to Saquon
Barklay and said, what do you think if he would
have put up any fight whatsoever. I don't think they
would have gone against him. I just I feel like
he was heavily involved in the call. I don't think
I think he's earned it.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I don't think you do it. I think you say
we're going to get it. Like if I'm Nick Sirianni,
we're going to get this record. You're playing against your
former team. They discarded you, through you in the trash
of sorts. You're not worth it, And they did that
s on hard knocks. Everybody in the world saw it.
You get to go break that record. You get to
go break that record against the former team that didn't

(28:47):
want you in the same conference, sam, the same division.
I don't like it. I say, let's go get it.
Let's go get it. And then you take that type
of momentum you got. You got an early gift in
your seat. You're going for the super Bowl, but you
got an early gift in your season. You're not getting
the number one seed. So if you're not getting the
number one seed, get this momentum. Let's let's carry that

(29:10):
momentum into the into the playoffs. Our offensive line are
some dogs, so let's go out here and be dogs
again and carry this into the playoffs. And oh, by
the way, we're gonna make history, every last one of us.
We're gonna make history. You know what, I didn't get
two hundred sacks in my in my career, but you
know who did. Bruce Smith? You know who was right

(29:33):
there in the picture. Go look at the picture. Go
look at the picture. I'm gonna be right there in
the picture. I'm gonna be right there. That wasn't just
Bruce Smith's record that was not just Bruce Smith's, that
was not just his record. I was right there with her.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You're like, guys, we did it.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
We did it.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Now you got that, man, I was all I was
grabbing him and hugging him. I knew that camera was out,
and I knew I was apart only been a part
of Hey, hey, Jonas. I might have only been a
part of twenty of them two hundred, but you know what,
I was a part of the last twenty. I was
a part of the last twenty bit. And I'm ahead
my moment we broke that record. I tell Bruce that

(30:20):
every time I see Bruce, like, hey man, we give
each other a big huh.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And we broke that record. Did we Bruce?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Pray?

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Pray pray? But why oh?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I used to tell a lot of us, Matt and
that is going on when when Brady and I were
doing this Sunday night show together. So I said, Brady,
between you and I, we threw ninety five touchdowns in college,
you know, Like I used to claim that all the time,
like I'm a part.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Of that's part of this. Did you do radio with them?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah? It counts his mind. I mean, get it there,
like you guys are first round draft picks.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Me too.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
No, you're not my ass. Check the show. You're part
of this, it's I am.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
So again, that's the that's the latest. It felt like
Nick Sirianni, speaking yesterday, was going to uh to make
the call to let Saquon play, But as it turns out,
he spoke with reporters a short time ago and no
Saquon Barkley or other starters in the finale against the
Giants coming up this weekend, So the record is safe.
I also wanted this. If Saquon had broken the record

(31:24):
in seventeen games, would Eric Dickerson, much like Mark Astina,
have accosted him at a at an autograph signing years
later for a faulty record?

Speaker 4 (31:33):
If that was no?

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Good man, come on, that was just funny. That's a funny.
Just ask because he really did. He really did want
to get at Brett Fahr for that one man. And
you know what them records be, madding man, that would
be you know, records matter.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
You know, it would be the ultimate move by the
Giants if say, Saquon Barkley was you know, twenty yard
shy of the record, it oh man, because then he
would feel guilty about getting it because be like, oh,
this is not right. But the giants could be like,
you know what, Michael Strahan got a gift from Brett
Farve years ago. We're gonna go ahead and give you
a gift. And then it would put it put a

(32:11):
stain on the record completely, and then everybody would be like,
what was the point?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
You know?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
To me, that's where it gets confusing, you know, not
not not any other way. I mean, Brett Farv took
a fall, he took a daft. I mean, everybody's seen it.
He took a dave. That might have been the worst
way to break a record I've ever seen in my
entire life. But you know what it happened, and you
know that's a record. It's a record. Mark Gasnew wanted

(32:37):
to tear Brett Farv's head off his neck.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And you know what, and maybe rightfully so what he did.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
What does he go after TJ Watt TJ Wat tie
the record? I mean, come on, man, all.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I'm gonna say. All I'm gonna say is all I'm
gonna say is that was a dave. But here's the thing.
If you're resting starters and you're saying I'm resting starters
because this is what we're doing. I mean, I I
get it. I just feel like, why wouldn't you play
them long enough to get to the hundred?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Do you got to play four quarters to get to
the hundred?

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I mean, but I mean maybe maybe maybe reassess it.
Reevaluated at at halftime, like where's he at? He might
have ripped off a fifty yard or forty yard or
sixty yard or you never know. I just think it's crazy.
You mean to be that close to history and not
go get it.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
If that was Dan Campbell, he would have had on
special teams too, Like I listen, Oh, you're going for
the record. You're gonna hurt it, buddy. Hey, hey you're
on Kickoff. Have fun out there.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
So disappointing, but.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I'm disappointed back, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
But hey, there's there's a little bit of breaking news
here on The Herd with LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox.
Nick Sirianni makes the announcement it's official, no Saquon Barkley
in the final game of the season, trying to break
the all time rushing record.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You want to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays
and neonon Easter, not a im Pacific.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Now the New Orleans Times pickyun is also reporting that
the Sugar Bowl is going to be postponed in New Orleans.
No official word as of yet, but there are two outlets.
WDSA in NBC or excuse me, WDSU, an NBC affiliate
out of New Orleans. They reported the Sugar bowls going
to be postponed following the tragedy last night in New Orleans.

(34:27):
And now we've got the New Orleans Times pickyun and
saying the same thing. So if we get confirmation on that,
we'll let you know. But it does appear like at
least it's heading in the right in that direction where
they're going to postpone the game until tomorrow. Now the
Rose Bowl is coming up later on.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Can I answer you a question, Yeah, before you do that.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
If so, the game gets postponed, the winner of that
game plays in the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, right, yep.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
The Orange Bowl is next Thursday.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I'm double check that.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Is there any like, will there be any conversations in
terms of what would take place, what would take place
with you know, the scheduling of the game, if that,
you know, if that indeed takes you know, if that happens.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I don't. I don't think anything would change because you'd
still have a week between games. If it plays tomorrow,
you'd still have Thursday to Thursday. So I don't know
that they would change anything.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
I mean, is there the possibility, like I'm I'm I'm
looking at some some information right now and I'm not
sure how how real it is or or what, but
it could be. I mean, there there could be discussions
that the game is getting moved to possibly Houston and
being played on Friday. So if that were to happened,

(35:58):
then they would have to move the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't I mean, I don't. I mean I think
that you don't think so, I don't think that they will.
I think moving the game to Houston does make some
sense if you're concerned about the security issues. But I
think that those you know, whoever wins the Sugar Bowl,
if that's the case, they would just have to play
on short rest going into the to the semi final

(36:22):
against Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
I don't know, man, I don't. I don't see that
being fair to to the team that advances, you know,
because I think it has.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
To be a conversation about it.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
The only way you would move a game is if
you absolutely had to, And I think that teams I think.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
This one would kind of qualify for that.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I think I think the Sugar Bowl itself would qualify.
I don't think that they would let it impact the
following week. Maybe I'm wrong, but I couldn't see that
being the key.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I gotta I gotta say, I believe that they would
have to move it back at least a day or two.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, at least.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I mean that's assuming sensibility and practicalities of making sure
that the matchup is what it's supposed to be. That
would that would have to be taken into consideration.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Looks as a as a Penn Stater, I mean, have
at it. If they're going if they if they're going
to do it on at the same amount of time,
have at it. I mean that's that, you know, that's
kind of I feel like that's a that's an advantage,
that's that's an un to me, I don't feel like
that's a I just don't think that you should have

(37:38):
even being a Penn Stater. I don't think you want
to play against a team that doesn't have enough rest
time in between for for the next game.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's a tough spot because howpefu Look.
If they decided they were going to play the game tonight,
there would be a pushback against it. If they pushed
it back to tomorrow, there would be some people this say, well,
why not just move it completely? If they moved it,
then it just it feels like they're kind of in
a tough spot no matter what. And obviously safety is

(38:08):
paramount when it comes to all this.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
So they just went forward on fourth down and got
that that bad boy man. They have no respect for Asus,
you know.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
By the way, I would also remember when you were saying, uh,
Cowboy fans being obnoxious. Yes, Texas fans are kind of
up there as well too.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
That's Texas Texas.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
You know, they they're they're you know, they seem like
they're kind of in the same grouping, you know, with
with Cowboy fans.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
I don't know them, so I will not pass a judgment.
I'm not aware of the you know, the patterns of
how Texas fans handle things at the college level at Texas,
so I'll stay.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Away from that.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
But Dallas fans, Yeah, they're they're all about like and
I'll ask them on like, name a street and in
Dallas or in Fort Worth, name, name of zip code,
name name an area code, and more often than not,
they can't do it.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You're a fan of a of a team.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
You don't know a street name, you don't know a
zip code, you don't know area code, like get out
of here.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, they'll say, oh the grassy knoll. Yeah, stop, that's
not there. Yeah, you got to venture out a little bit. Well, look,
I mean, at least Texas is doing their part. They're
winning games and they're they're in the playoffs. Dallas will
not be a part of that. Now. You were at
you were at the Penn State Boise State playoff game
last night.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
There, Yes, yes, that's why.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
That's why I don't understand why I'm doing radio with
you today. If it were if if we, if you
and Q were doing it, man, I would not be
in here doing this show. I'm hurt so bad right now, man,
what do you Penn State win led to a whole
lot of double man cows and pineapple last night, and

(40:02):
it just it just got over, it just got out
of control.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
How many drinks you think you have last night. I
didn't count because you haven't been drinking that much lately,
no at.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
All, because I've been doing my PhD. Make sure you
guys check out the PhD weight loss. Uh yeah, yeah. Anyway,
I have not been drinking very much, and I do
not recall how many I had because people just kept
handing them to me. So I didn't you know, I

(40:32):
didn't keep counting, and I didn't try to keep count
because Penn State had won and it was all was
good in the universe for me. I got to see
my son on the sideline. Man, it was like I
was just so happy, bro, I just let that happiness
just take me to to the mascout Pineapple, to the bar,

(40:54):
to the bar, straight to the bar. I haven't even ate.
I haven't even ate. I don't even know the last
time I've ate. I haven't even ate anything. I'm hungry
as hell. Like it's like all my priorities are all
jacked up, other than doing this radio show and making
sure that you know, we do a fine show.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
But by the way, Stick City Abdul Carter got banged
up a little bit last night, like.

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Uh, you know, he heard his shoulder. Yeah, so so
I hope he feels better soon.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
An any thought to whether or not it's going to impact
him next game.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Or what, I don't know. Just gotta wait and see.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
I mean, these guys are on the verge of I mean,
they're already making history with what they're doing. I tell
these guys on the field, I said, everything you guys
do from the moment you started playing in the playoffs,
you are carving out your own space, your own legacy
within the tradition of what we have represented all of

(41:56):
these schools. And that's another thing that you know, maybe
doesn't get a enough attention Zonas when when we're talking
about like, people rather focus in on, oh, this team
shouldn't be it, this team should like how about you
focus in on the fact that these teams are are
making history.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
Okay, so you know a team has to win, a
team has to lose, and there will be a loser.
And to say that, oh, well, as a loser, you're
you're not you're not touching history. These these young men
have prepared, they played, and they're touching history by playing
in this new playoff. And and they're being home games

(42:35):
and and they're being bye week, so you know, I
think that.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
There's a lot to be said about.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
The changing you know, the changing environment of how many
games are played and how these playoffs are taken. But
this is the first time, this is the only time.
This will be the first time, and it feels like that,
Like it felt like that at the game. The energy
of it felt like that, and man, I really enjoyed it.

(43:02):
I really enjoyed it. Felt it's almost like each of
these games are National Championship game. Bro, I'm telling you,
that's what it feels like. Like the energy of it,
the electricity of it, It's like this isn't It's like
every game these young men are playing in is the
equivalent of the National championship game. And so to me,

(43:23):
I was, you know, I was really really driving home
to these guys. You know, I was talking to Abdul
and you know, Kobe King and the rest of those
guys just about how every single thing they do will
go into the annals and the history of Penn State
football and it will always be discussed as the first time.

(43:45):
So what you guys do with it is going to
play you know, a major role in how it's talked
about and how it's discussed. It could be you went
out in the first round. It could be you made
it all the way to this round. It could be
you won it all. You know, but whatever that is,
you're going to be remembered on a different level, to
a different capacity than any other team that has ever

(44:07):
took the field for Penn State. And I think that
that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
It's also history for the sport. That's why when we
were talking earlier about you know, people that are complaining
about the mismatches and all that, it's like, look, they'll
get this thing figured out. There's going to be adjustments
to who gets the buys next year. That's already been
reported that there's going to be adjustments next week to
the bye weeks and everything that's involved in that. And
so like it's the first year, but like the first
year of something that we've never seen before in the sport.

(44:34):
Like there used to be a time where they would
determine the college the national champion by voting on it.
It wasn't even like you didn't play it out on
the field. You voted on it. Remember there was like
a split national champion one year.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Washing like we were part of that too.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Well, we didn't get it, but they gave we went undefeated,
Nebraska went undefeated, and they gave it to Nebraska because
they said it was Tommy Osbourne's turn to win it.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
You know, the writers, the coaches poll, and like there
used to be it was such an outdated, antiquated way
that they determine that. And so now we're actually getting
the to play it out, and we're getting to play
it out with more teams involved with an opportunity to
win it, and yet people just want to complain. Dude,
this is just wish though.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I wish.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
I wish that the bracket just consisted of the way
it's your ranked on the polls. I really think that, Like,
why why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you just have it
where if it's a twelve team, if it's a twelve
team playoff, then.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Take the top twelve teams.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Like, I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
If you're ranked, if you're ranked one, your number one,
go figure, Hey, let me let me throw an interesting
concept at you. Right, you got this poll, you got
the AP poll, and you have what the coaches poll
or the writer's pole, which one is.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
AP, AP coaches, coaches.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Okay, poles, let's take the coaches poll which one is
the one that's most most coveted?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
The APS, the the a P before the play before,
the playoff rankings, the APS before.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah, okay, why do you not just look at what
the AP rankings are and take those teams and make
that your playoff I just don't get it. If you're
ranked number four, but oh you're not You're not that good,
or your your strength to schedule or this, that and
the other and that, like you're ranked number four.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I think they're trying. They're trying to reward winning your conference,
is the thought. And if you're just going by rankings,
there's obviously people that don't think Arizona State should be
ranked higher than Texas, and Arizona State won their conference
championship game, thus they would get the buy Like, I
think that's the thought. I mean to me, you know,

(46:53):
there's they added like one or two more steps to
the instruction manual than they probably needed to. We could
have made this a lot simpler, something along the lines
of what you're thinking. But instead, here we are, and
you've got Boise State in Arizona State coming off a
bye week and just getting shell ACKed currently with the.

Speaker 5 (47:12):
I mean they're in the game, they held them to
a field goal. They're they're they're competitive. It's not they're
not running away with it. This is a pivotal This
is a pivotal draft for for Arizona State. And and
you know what, like they're fighting the way they're showing
some fight.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Cam Scatapou runs, dude fronts like he's always pissed off.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
He just built strong like that. Man.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
But yeah, I mean they're being competitive. I listen, I
don't know what's going to happen with this game today.
But all I know is is that when I look
at what these guys are doing and what they have
the opportunity to do, it makes me wish I could
go back and do it all over again, and in

(48:01):
this this you know generation of playing it. You know,
I just would love to have had the opportunity. I mean,
I would assume we would have made the playoff every
year when I was in school, you know, because.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
You were out of it, you were out of the playoff.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
Had got introduced, at least a national championship game had
got introduced my last year in school, and that was
when or maybe maybe before it maybe before. I'm not
I'm not sure, but I know Florida State played Virginia Tech.
Was that the first one? I feel like that was
the first one the college championship game, and that was

(48:40):
Mike Vick and Peter Ward and Chris Wink and those guys.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Anyway, like one.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Loss knocked us out of contention to be able to
play for that national title. One loss, you know what
I mean, Like I would have loved to have had
an opportunity to see what we could do if we
made the playoffs team we would have traveled well, we
would have played well, and I would have loved to
have been a part of something like that. So I

(49:08):
just look at it from I guess maybe a sentimental
value of someone who used to play the game. And
if you're there and you have this opportunity, man, God
bless and enjoy it and take it in, and I
wouldn't be listening to all of the noise like that
must that must sound crazy to these other teams that
you know out here, like you don't belong here, you know,

(49:30):
like that's got to sound crazy if you're an Arizona
State player, if you're a Boise State player, and yeah,
short played out where you know, Boise loss or Indiana loss.
But so what, Yeah, they still played the game. They
played the game, you know, and not that it just
kind of bothers me. Man Like people that don't have
nothing to do with this game, like from from the

(49:51):
playing it aspect, like you don't know what it's like
to struggle. You don't know what it's like to be
in the trenches within in a stranger becomes your friend,
your your friend becomes your brother. Like people don't understand
what that struggle is like. And then you put it
in and you put the work in, and you put
the time in, and you get rewarded for people to

(50:12):
tell you you don't belong.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
By the way, anything you want to admit to here
on the air, we're now our three of the program,
and you haven't. You haven't mentioned this and anything you
want to admit to any any like celebrity encounters. Maybe
at the.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
L Yeah, he wasn't at the Fiesta Bowl. He was
at my hotel.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You met you met the damn kid from Christmas Story?

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I met Ralphie bro Yeah, shoot rah yeah yeah shoot
rah Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
What did you do when he saw?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I freaked out because I was drunk a fan boyd out?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
What'd you say?

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I was like, Oh my gosh, you're Ralphie, Like you're
really him, You're really Ralphie?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Like do you understand?

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Like Ralphie's almost like in America, he's like almost is
like he's on like on the A list celebrity like
most known people, like think about it, you'll shoot your
eye out.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Kids.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
What's his name? Is it Peter billings Is that his name?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Peter Billings Billingsley? Come on, what's the difference if you're
drinking it all sounds the same. What's your problem?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Lee?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Why do you have to be so correctable here on
the show? Did he so? Was he a nice cool dude?

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Man, cool dude? We talked cool dude.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Was he ripping drinks too?

Speaker 4 (51:32):
I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
I was not in any condition to pay attention to
like taking in all that information. He was just he
was a really cool dude, man, really cool.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Real gracious dude.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
I was like, man, like you do realize even to
this day, I watch you every single year like you
got people like Jesus. You talk about them like people
talk about them every day or go to see them.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Once a week.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
That you got like names.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Some other people though that really like they're gonna Santa Claus.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Think of the same thing. Man, Like, whenever I go
to church, there's always like a picture of Ralphie on
the Bible. I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
No, No, I didn't put Ralphie on the Bible. I'm
saying there are certain people throughout our history that you
talk about them every like some people get it every day,
some people get it every week, some people get it
once a year.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I'd love to know what his royalties are. Do you
have to do? You know what Ralphie gets every time?

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Looks like he's struggling. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I mean, I'd love to hear that. Let's go live
to our I have a thought on Ralphie's royalties. Insider
Chris perfesstulated, I.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
Don't, but I did just see. I didn't realize they
had made a sequel to a Christmas story. Yeah, a
Christmas story Christmas. So like, I know what Ralphie looks
like grown up, and that's the part that's like really
messing with me.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
So I know exactly that far off from though.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
He doesn't he looks he just looks like a you know,
forty year old version.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
He stretched out.

Speaker 7 (52:57):
Yeah, yeah, so I know exactly the East LeVar saw
down there.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Like we work with Justin Cooper who was the star liar,
and he just that's.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Crazy, that's cool. He looks the same. He just looks
like he smokes weed.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah, just imagine, just imagine the little kid from Different,
the little kid from Lyar Larr with a gambling problem
and Pott in his back. Pone goes to like every
tool concert and yeah, he's like, you know, he hangs
out at hot topic. He goes to the World Series
of Poker every year and he, you know, he smokes.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
I mean, no offense to my boy, Coop Cooper is
my dog. No, no, no, listen, no shade to Coop.
But this ain't even he smoked that bud. He's a
good that smoked that. We hey look no.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Coop DoD Hey Coop, Hey, Coop dog. No shade. But
as far as kid actors.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Like, I don't think anyone even comes close to touching Ralfi.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Of Christmas Store, even Macaulay Culkin who had a great run.
Even yeah, Macaulay Cochin had a great run, but yeah,
I would still go Ralphie from a Christmas Story all
the way, all the.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Ruh, there's something like there's just I mean I will
say like like uh, Macaulay Cochin is a he's that's
a good one.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I mean, that's that's it.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
That's in the conversation because every single year you're going
to watch Home Alone. You're going to watch Home Alone.
But it doesn't have the historical nostalgia connected to it
like Christmas Story. Like Christmas Story was from a different time,
a different generation. Like it really you could really feel

(54:40):
that that movie, like there were so so many signature
movement moments like.

Speaker 8 (54:46):
Oh yeah, like there was so the kid getting in,
getting his tongue caught on the on the light pole,
like there.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Were so many signature moments that the little boy, the
little boy running with his with his snowsuit on. Then
you can remember those snowsuits did you have to Well,
you you wouldn't remember that, but people like us from
the cold, we remember running around in them snowsuits when
it was cold outside.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Like, Bro, you had to wear snowsuit like that to
go to school.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
You imagine that you had to peel yourself out of
that snowsuit to go just sitting class and be a class,
like not burning up because you got a snowsuit on.
Then you got to put it back on. You got
to put it back on when you leave. Like it
took you back to a time, a day in a
place where it was just you know, I don't know,

(55:39):
just amazing, man. So yeah, I met Ralphie. I met Ralphie.
That's pretty cool, man.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Lee, Any update on how much he made? You can't
get ahold of that guy's W two's we're not asking
for a lot here. Apparently a lot of people ask
that question. Uh No, you cannot find the royalties. But
I do know his net worth, uh, which is around
twelve million dollar. Nice.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Good for him, Good for him for one movie, and
that's probably like that twelve millions probably, like you break
that down, you know, I don't know, man, I don't know.
He's he's collecting every single He's like Mariah Carrey. Oh yeah,
he's collecting every single year.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, he's probably a better singer than Mariah at this point.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Too. I met that dude. I met that dude last night.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
I met a totally fanboy nowt man, I met that
dude last night.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Bro, Like I sam in the stall. It is sports radio.
Dawn