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January 3, 2025 43 mins

Covino & Rich put a bow on their topic of Yankees outdated player rules! 'SHOWTIME MAHOMES TRIVIA' brings the swag! They flashback to a 2007 Draft blunder. The guys dive into WEAK 18 contract incentives. HERDLINE NEWS hears from an unhappy Jimmy Butler. Plus, 'WEEKEND HOBNOBBING' gets you set to stream this Saturday & Sunday!

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Fox Sports Radio. Now before we play Showtime Mahomes Trivia,
before we get to weekend Hobnobbin, which is what to
watch besides football, besides some NBA. There's a new dating
show I want to talk about later during weekend, Hot Dubbing.
They've they've scraped the bottom of the barrel for this.

(01:50):
There's a show where you have to be like stuck
with your in walls on an island. Have you seen this? No,
They've come up with every idea. So we'll get to
all the dumbs stuff you could watch this weekend. But
I wanted to, you know, put a little bow on
the conversation about the Yankees being a little, maybe not
a little, a lot outdated free agency. There's still players

(02:12):
out there in the mix. Polar Bear Pete Alonso is
one of them. The market dictates what you're worth. I
think he thought he was going to get a lot
more Mets, Angels, Yankees as a few teams, but they
don't want to give Polar Bear Pete any more than
three or four years. Looks like he's running out of
options too, right. And when you look at some of
the free agents that were signed the Yankees, you know,

(02:35):
you could argue that they lost Juan Soto, but they certainly,
I think, have a lot of great, low risk, high
reward players. Yeah, it forced them to make better moves,
bell and strategy, Yeah, gold Schmidt. They got Williams in
the bullpen now. And it got me thinking because these

(02:56):
poor guys now have to shave. And I know you
might say why they're making tens of millions of dollars,
who cares? But I looked around the room. Let's say one, two, three,
four or five. There's seven seven men working here now
in the hallway. I saw Jay stew from the Gottlieb Show.
I saw Big Mike, I saw a prefet. There's roughly
ten people I saw in the last five minutes, all

(03:17):
grown men, all with facial hair, that would all have
to change their look if they played for the Yankees.
So I ask you, is it the lamest rule in
all of sports in twenty twenty five. When you see
a guy like Paul Goldschmidt, do you think this dude
wants to shave every day you're in a slump, You're
on the road one hundred and sixty two games every morning,
waking up and shaving too waste of wall. Like you,

(03:39):
you make sacrifices for things that you care about, like
and that could be your job, that could be your relationship.
If your girlfriend says, you know, I really love you
clean shaven, guess what, you're probably shaving your beard. There's
a reason I stopped wearing earrings. My girlfriend was like.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's goal, it's Paul Golscht's sleeping with Brian Cashman.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, but again, you make those sacrifices your job or
things you care about. It's your priority, right Like when
we worked on ESPN on TV. They didn't say I
had to, but they recommended I take my earrings off,
And you know what, quite frankly, maybe I should have anyway,
But because I was like, well, you know, I care
about my job and I want to present the way

(04:19):
the best way they want me to, I'll take them off.
I think you should have took out the diamond studge
you wear and put in a hanging Barry Bond's earring
from the nineties.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
That would have been the look. I should have wore
a Lawrence Taylor woe. Yeah, I had one, I stand by.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
But my point is there's some compromise that maybe you
have to make when you're making a ton of money
and you're wearing the pinstripes.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I know you put no value in that.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Neither did want Soto, but those are the rules and
it's not that big of a deal. Young maybe that's
part of the price you pay to play for the Yanks.
But the younger generations fan, please let me let me
say this good I do for the first time. Agree.
Maybe it's the feel of these younger players and times
are changing more than ever, or maybe it's becoming such

(05:02):
an international game that you know, that's a big ask
to tell some young Dominican kid who has a sweet
shape up and you know he's sort of known for
having this look and he has a true decision beard
that he takes a lot of pride in to all
of a sudden shave that and not feel one hundred
percent stepping into the batter's box to me as a fan. Now,

(05:22):
I'm like, let this young dude feel his best. I
want him to feel as confident as ever. And that
whole Devin Williams side of it made me think that
there has to be a compromise there. I don't think
that the Yankee should completely change their rules, because then
you look like the two thousand and four Red Sox,
like a bunch of hobos, right, who looked like a
bunch of old, homeless cowboys. I think that there's a

(05:45):
compromise where you don't look like a cave man. You
could still rock facial hair, but like it has to
be groomed, you know what I mean. I think that's
a fair adjustment. I think there's a compromise. You could
say clean shaven's out, you could say dumb observation. But hey,
it is that week, you know, I think it's time.
It's it's the week where everyone's just sort of chilling

(06:05):
and doing nothing anyway, Probably a lot of people sitting
on their butt, not back to work yet scratching their
stubble as we speak, thinking, yeah, you know what if
I had a shave every single day, that would be
sort of a pain in the butt.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
That would be a pain in the ass.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I think we're looking at a time now where
these young players they don't value the pinstripes like maybe
previous generations. And on top of that, now you're telling
them some young kid every single day, right, you have
to shave everyone's music. When was the last time you
actually shaved you have? You're rocking like a thin beard.
When was the last time you shaved my face down

(06:40):
to the skin would be going on probably about eleven
years ago. Now, good luck playing for the Yankees. Shaved tomorrow.
I'm almost like music. I'd say, maybe they've never seen
that slider by the way, so maybe five years ago.
I'm for the hell of it. One day I was like,
let me let me clean slate shave Danny g What
was the last time I've.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Ever seen you with the shaf face? My family hasn't either.
I've had a five o'clock shadow since I was fifteen
man twenty years see.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, it's it's a bigger asque than ever, especially in
the times that we're living in too, because it's hard
to get young people just to show up at work.
The lack and level of respect people have for their
workplace is so different. Now there's a lot of companies
telling people they need to return to the office, and
they're like, yeah, I don't want to. So imagine telling

(07:30):
that type of young person that you have to shave.
They're like, I don't even want to put on pants,
let shave. I mean most guys have a razor. They
just don't shave their face exactly. I do think we've
gotten to the point rich where it compromises the key here,
no doubt. All right, let's do this Showtime Mahomes Trivia,
the mostly lovable Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Truth is, I want everybody to love me, not just
the refs.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's time for some NFL trivia.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm here, I'm here.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yes, we know you're here, all.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Right, Patrick Maholmes, here to play Showtime Homes Trivia.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
All right.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
FSR security walking our broke Patrick into the main studio.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I'm here. I'm here, guys, early, but I'm here. Made it.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
You were waiting in our blue kitchen. Someone told me
you looked like you had a little bit of attitude, a.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Little bit, just a little bit, you know. Fifteen and one.
No Pro Bowl. Don't need the Pro Bowl. I got
a Pro Bowl. Kelsey mix and that's all I need
a fifteen in one. Look at the record anyway? What's up?
Patrick Maholmes, I'm here, Peth. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
All right?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Let's meet the contestants right now. Twenty four time winner
Rich Davis right over there, seven time champion Spotty Boy?

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Is this guy sleeping? What? Hey? Spotty? You sleeping? Still? Hey?
Hey man? If if that's the case, I would have
stayed home.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Newcomer Ryan Music and looking to win a seeing our
stainless steel Swiggy on our studio lines here all right, Music,
I'll use you for this. Would you love to travel
to McMinnville, Tennessee, Greenville, Michigan, Providence, Rhode Island or Locust Grove, Georgia.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Locus Grove, Georgia, Grove, Georgia. You want to go Georgia?
All right? Such a great name, Locus Crows? Say? What's
up to Ray in Georgia?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
By the way, Ray? Seriously?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Like you think Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, you think
they're better than me?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Like I'm not in the Pro Bowl. Yeah I do,
because I'm a raiderst fan.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I do think the hang up, I don't like this guy,
oh man, you picked the right line here music, all right.
Here are the rules for Showtime Mahomes NFL trivia. The
first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If
there's a tie, we have a tie breaker question. Your
name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait
until all three possible answers are read. If there's two
wrong answers in a row, we move on to the

(09:49):
next question. Are you ready, let's go, Let's get it on,
all right?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Round one, Patrick Mahomes, I'm here and I'm coming for
this record. Which NFL QB holds the record from I
was passing yards in a single game?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Is it a Joe Burrow, B Dan Fouts or C.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Norm Van Brocklin, Rick RICHI, Dan Felts.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
No, wrong, Yeah, you're thinking wrong. Ray for the steal
Van van Brocken.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, my most passing yard single game five hundred and
fifty four yards.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Baller back in the day like that.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Borrow was pretty closest year in one of those games.
What what I got to look that up? It was
five something?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
All right? And y cousins too.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
No, yeah, Ray is halfway to a CNR Swiggy.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
All right, we move on to round two, Round tow
Patrick mahomes here. Pro bowler should be.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Hi, Patrick, what was I once quoted saying about my wheels?

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Your wheels, my wheels.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Throughout my whole football career, I've always known I wasn't
the fastest guy. B. Luckily, for me, in game, speed
is different than being timed in the or See, it
doesn't matter if I'm trying to run on a broken ankle.
The rest will make sure I limped to a first down.
I was quoted saying about my wheel Rich, see.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Ray, let's go it B. No, I'm going to take
question now. All right, we move on to round three,
Round three, Patrick mahomes here.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
By the way, Covino and Rich slaying it and for
calling on Hurd want to say that guys, honestly, I
think you guys are like the best in the game.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Kissing the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
All the affiliates should probably at your show because you
get the big guest.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Patch mahomes here to the radio Pro Bowl.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
This guy once told me that he wished he had
me as a QB. During his career, Bill Parcells Tuna
was the head coach for how many the NFL teams
A three.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
B four or C five Ray for the win.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's a.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So confident Rich Rich for the steal four teams? Right?
So yes?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Can you name them Jets, Giants, Patriots and Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, there is extra credit, all right? So Ray and
Rich both on the board, as we moved to the
next round here?

Speaker 4 (12:32):
All right? Round four?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Which franchise infamously ran out of time during the two
thousand and seven draft at pick number seven?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
The Vikings be the Titans or see the Bears.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Ryan Ryan got in there first, Vikings A yes, where
are we at?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Danny? G uh so? Ray? Rich? Ryan on the board?
Is we moved around five? Well, it's getting heated three
way tie all right, almost as heated as me when
I found out. And he make the probo. Sorry next
maybe next year? Maybe next year? All right?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Who's the third leading rusher in the NFL behind Sea
Quon and Derrick Henry?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Hey, Josh Jacobs, B John Robinson or C. Karen Williams.
Ray for the win?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
No, so close?

Speaker 6 (13:25):
So confident, I know, right Ryan for the wind seek
Williams music takes his first time sweeky A rah, we
thank you for listening to the herd there in Georgia.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
He doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I guess maybe he cares about this because I'm working
on my own pitch.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
What do you think? You know, I'm being at the
ketchup right. I'm thinking about making my own cereal mix. Yeah,
I'm thinking about combining Count Chocula with Frankenberry and Bowberry
mahomes monster mixed. Man, what do you guys think? Come on, guys,
it's a good one. Got my own Pro Bowl going out, guys.

(14:09):
Congrats on your upcoming baby. All right, guys, thank you. Hey, Hey,
I'm out later, guys, Camino enrich you guys, rule later, guys.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Thank you. Broke Patrick Mahons. I love when he comes
into the studio.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Hey, look at that, you know what. I totally great
so that he was firing up to him. Hey, KMO music.
I totally forgot that year when the Vikings missed their pick.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Oh yeah, what a blonde he that?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Danny g Is that one of those things that goes
under the radar, is like what a for sure?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
What a Bonett move?

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Well, you know what it is really is the draft
has developed into such an event in the past like
five to ten years that that falls just outside of
that window where it wasn't such a monumental television event
where if that happened now, oh it would be it
would be a story for until the next football season,

(14:58):
until training camp.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
You know, made me think of music again, Ryan Music
here at Music Reports on social media. You made me
think of the COVID year when he did it from
his basement. Remember that they were panels in his weak
ass desk, probably there in his socks doing the draft.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Remember how weak that was.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Bill Belichick Wick sit at the table with his dog.
That's why I mentioned it earlier. Oddly that remember I said,
Cliff Kingsbury, we saw he had the Swiss house. Ever
and again, as we dive into twenty twenty five, it
is such a weird timestamp to me to think that
all that was five years ago. You're like, what and
you talk about the draft. Yeah, two things come to mind.

(15:37):
Number One, if you watch that grade thirty for thirty
from Lway to Marino back then we're talking early eighties.
A lot of us we're alive in the early eighties.
That was that was such a different draft world. Like
the guys are sitting with like beige, you know, landlines
like just in a conference room, like, hey, I think
our pick is in the draft went from simply a

(16:00):
functional Hey it's a draft college of the NFL, to
a spectacle fans viewing parties, everything I remember.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
So the great writer Peter King, who's now retired from
being a full time columnist, but he tells a story
I don't remember the year, but he tells a story
about when he was I think it was a Cincinnati
based writer and he met with the GM of the
Bengals at the time, and the guy goes, I'll tell
you who our picks are. And he's like really, He goes, well, yeah,

(16:29):
you're gonna print it in the paper. We'll already have
the picks in before tomorrow's morning paper comes out. So
that's how much media has changed. Is the GM of
an NFL team gave him the list of who they
were gonna pick and he printed it in the paper
because they knew it wasn't going to come out until
the next day.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
And to think that it's like a family affair now,
people gather around, you know, the guys have the hat
ready to put on. They you know, they're all their
friends and family and there's always a story where some
guys girlfriend jumps on him too quick and the mom
pushes her away.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's become such.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
A big millions of spectators just crowd the streets of
whatever city this is happening, and now rotating the cities
and rich. This is some cool trivia. You said, it's
not talked about enough. Who was the next team on
the board after the Vikings missed their debt fifteen minute deadline?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
There? Oh, that's a good question. It was the Jags
and they rushed in to grab what quarterback? Mark Brunell? Nope?
What year is it again? Two thousand and seven? Yeah,
Blake Portals Nope.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Think of a famous limp in college being helped by
some teammates.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
Would they pick Byron leftwitch aw Man? I suck?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know I wanted music. You should do this. You
should roll this from now on. You should tell people
because who's going to tell you you're wrong? You should
say that you're the creator of the do.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Do do Do do do the draft center.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Compose the draft sound and you own it. Who's gonna
tell you're wrong? That's rights? John test to it.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
See maybe he did. I don't know, I don't know.
We got more.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Cavino and Rich, I know we want to talk about
some of these incentives to be watching out for on Sunday, because,
like we said before, we love the NFL, but truth
be told, Vikings Lions all eyes on maybe the biggest
regular season game in the last twenty five years of
the NFL. There's so much at stake. But besides that,

(18:29):
it's really a battle of draft position and who's resting
who's not. In Less Tampa really blows it, then you
know they're gonna end up winning that division. Atlanta's out
unless Denver blows it against all of Kansas City's backups,
Miami and Cincinnati just sitting there hoping and wishing. So
Week eighteen, what to look out for? We'll get to

(18:50):
that next in for The Herd Cavino and Rich on
Fox Sports Radio.

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(20:22):
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(20:44):
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Thanks again, guys for hanging out with us. We have
a lot to get to. We got weekend hobnobbing later
this hour. What you need to watch this weekend and
right now, Rich, it's a bit of a cross promotion.
I mentioned our bonus podcast over promised again on Fox

(21:07):
Sports Radios YouTube page. We talked about all the incentives
this week in the NFL because we were debating is
it Week eighteen or Week weeak eighteen shut a week eighteen.
But there's incentives and I just a couple more that
I keep popping up, like, not necessarily fully based on

(21:28):
the regular season, but I just read the Baker Mayfield.
Not only does he have a ton of incentives in
his contract making the playoffs, he gets an extra half
a mill for every playoffs nay nice, for every playoff victory,
it's another half a million dollars. So Baker just keeps
making money if the Bucks keep winning. So there's definitely
incentives for Baker to definitely win this week. So, man,

(21:52):
you thought he played hard before, you're gonna see a
different level. But his dude, Mike Evans, that's one of
the big ones people talking about. So if you stuff
to watch or you're trying to make a fun prop bet,
Mike Evans is five receptions and eighty five yards away
from a three million dollar incentive to kick in. We
already established that the only game that we really care

(22:13):
about is Minnesota at Detroit, right, but maybe maybe Kansas
City Denver if you're pulling for the Dolphins or Bengals
to slide in, right, But otherwise it's Denver. Wins are
in but you're right. The only one is that Sunday
night game. But as far as incentives, I think I
want to be shocked if Tampa piled on. People are saying, like,

(22:35):
you know, it's week eighteen, is anyone going to really
go all out? The Bucks are hosting the Saints, and
Saints are bad. It's minus fourteen. I don't know, maybe
by half a point. Get it down to thirteen and
a half. I can't see the Bucks not winning by
a couple of touchdowns. I think the coolest one, and
again we talked about this on over Promised if you

(22:56):
want to take a further dive Fox Sports Radios YouTube page.
But it's the Gino Smith one because he could make
up to six million dollars extra if he gets one
hundred and eighty six yards easy wins. By the way,
the one to eighty six is easy, that's easy, and
then he had to reach ten total wins, so he
needs to win, and then he has to have a

(23:17):
pass completion percentage of seventy percent or over right, So
if he's able to accomplish all three things there, he
gets six million dollars extra, so two million for every
accomplishment there in incentives the easiest one for him, over
one hundred and eighty six yards, right, Gino's gonna put
a two hundred yards million, right, two million the win.
You're playing against the Rams in La. They locked up

(23:39):
that four seed. That's not changing, ye, And Matthew Stafford's resting,
he's playing for another two million. No, no, Kyron Williams, well,
Matthew Stafford, Cooper cup Pook in the coop these you know,
you're not seeing any of the stars of the Rams.
So you got the two million in the passing yards.
You probably got the two million for the wins. That's

(24:00):
four million right there. Like this is reason to watch anyway,
just to see Geno ball right here. I hate to say,
I'm not a mathematician and I wouldn't even know. And
that passing percentage was the tricky Well, hold on you
if you have a TIAD two, do you have an
old school calculator? What was the one you have with
the little face on it? A little professor? Yeah, I
got my Texas instrument one. He's his completion percentage right

(24:22):
now is like sixty nine point seven something. What would
he have to do week eighteen to get it to seventy.
Like if Gino Smith in the fourth quarter, if you
see him just dump off like seven screen passes in
a row, I think.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
We know what's up. But he's got two millions.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Wait, but I'm saying if two millions at steak, I
don't know if you audible to you know, ten screen
passes in the second half. I wonder if like twenty
two out of twenty six does it? Does you know
there's twenty five out of thirty do it? I don't. No,
I don't know what he would need. But that's the
one that's a little tricky. But Gino Smith has stuff

(24:59):
to play for. And listen, we always talk about a
DraftKings sports book. You could use Collins coder Ours see
our show. I think it might be a fun thing
to do because the games like how the hell do
you predict Raiders hosting Chargers?

Speaker 4 (25:14):
How do you predict that?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
How do you predict Washington going into Dallas? Like these
are games that you don't know who's really playing, how
long they're playing. Some teams don't really you know, benefit
from winning, Like the player incentives are just added reason
to watch because you're gonna see extra fight. Look, I'm
not saying that this is the sole motivator. You know,
guys like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield play hard regardless,

(25:38):
but when you're playing for extra millions of dollars, even
though they make a lot of money, you know you're
gonna see some extra fight, some extra game. And it
makes us think about how different life would be if life,
if our life, if everybody's life was incentive based, especially
at the workplace. You think how lazy everybody's become, especially
after COVID. As we established before, people don't even want

(26:00):
to show up to the office, People don't want to
put pants on. People wearing pajama pants since the beginning
of the holiday break. I know it to listen, the
market would to dictate it. We're not going to change
the way athletes are paid. So this is pipe dreaming, bro.
As the kids, this is big dreaming, bro. But imagine
if athletes and just everyone in life got paid on

(26:23):
an incentive scale. You could say that's the sales world, right.
You could say people get their bonuses and commissions if
you're in the sales world. But most jobs are not
commissioned sales based, right. So if I told you one
Soto with the Mets. Let's say the base salaries less.
But yo, you hit over two eighty that's five mil.

(26:46):
You hit over forty home runs, that's five milo. If
people hot dogging it, you would see people sitting out,
You would see people playing for their money. And I
think more life, forget about sports, more life periods should
be incentive because people like, we're almost forcing people to
work that system because we've gotten lazy. Look at the
customer service we have accepted in the past few years.

(27:10):
People have gotten lazy. I think things should be incentive based.
You're gonna see the results this weekend. And by the way,
Greg Mercer in Pittsburgh Mercerman hit us up in our
comments on over promised, and I think he's a scientist.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
This dude.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
He knows his numbers. He goes, if seventy percent is right,
he could throw for sixty seven percent completion in his
last game and remain at seventy. He says, wait what
he says that geno is at seventy point two percent
right now? Okay, so he so if seventy point two

(27:46):
is correct, he could throw for sixty seven percent in
his last game and remain at seventy Like twenty for
thirty would be a normal amount for throws a game.
So he's saying, man, I could do all three. Yeah,
he could do all three. If that's the case, that
means Gino would make Again, if he throws for one

(28:08):
hundred and eighty six yards, if he gets to win,
totaling ten and he stays at seventy seventy percent completion,
that means he could get six million extra this weekend.
But again, imagine if your relationship was based on that incentives,
you be getting extra loving, you be getting all sorts
of results that you're just not getting in regular life anymore. Well,

(28:30):
to break it down to something really simple, when someone
puts the gratuity already on a check, does that give
them any incentive to work harder?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Hell? No, no way.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
When you don't care, I mean, I get it because
they're trying to avoid cheap skates. But when you're at
a let's say you were at a party of eight
to ten of your buddies watching football at the bar,
when the check comes and they already put the gratuity in,
part of me is like I may have given you more,
but I'm not going to give you more now you
already put it on like if life was incentive based,
I do wonder how that would change things.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
If there was a way, I mean even in our.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Job, right, let's say ratings wise, right, that would be
the way to measure it says they do that, so
that's the thing in our world.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
No, but if we were getting them.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Because I haven't gotten any of you know, but I'm saying,
get more syndicated and somebody that saying if you're in
a local market like we have buddy like our buddy
Nico and very something like, people would be putting in
extra effort. You don't think you'd be more of a
sticklers as the rich and Coveno and rich to other people.
If our pay was determined on how well we did,
you don't think you'd be like, hey, do this and

(29:37):
do that and be more of a shot caller making
sure people did everything. Like if every if they were
stakes for every day show what I'm saying, yeah, you
would care more. Well, hey, something to watch this Sunday.
How different would life be if everything was incentive based?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Not right?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well, hey, at Covin and Rich, you could hit us
up there. Let's let's hit up Ryan for the Herdline News.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Let's go budd No no turn.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is the herd Line News.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
All right, guys, the Cowboys record of three straight twelve
win seasons, well, we all know that it's come to
an end.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
Questions, though, continue to swirl about regarding Mike McCarthy and
his status as their head coach going forward. Well, Jerry
Jones was asked if the final game of the season
will factor into that decision, and here's what he had
to say. Quote, No, the Hayes in the barn. As
far as our staff is concerned, I don't think there's

(30:32):
something that would happen out there Sunday impacting where we're
going to go.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
As we go forward. End quote oo. So yeah, I'm
trying to get a read it.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean, it would feel that means they're gonna
let him go, because if they've already made a decision,
there would have been an announcement on a contract extension.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I mean, all right, so they lose to Washington on Sunday.
Let's say that happens Washington, You're practically a touchdown favorite,
going to try to stay fresh, playing some of their
starters seven and ten. Dak wasn't there for a lot
of the season, Ceedee Lamb and his injuries. But you know,
do you give McCarthy the benefit of the doubt and

(31:13):
say stick with him?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Is that even?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Is that even a question? Would you be shocked if
they stuck with McCarthy. I would not be shocked. I mean, listen,
Jerry Jones just has a reputation for making those moves. Well,
you could say the same Kyle Shanahan injuries, had a
rough season, and they have given full confidence in John
Lynch and Shanahan to continue forward. I don't know if

(31:35):
Mike McCarthy's given that grayce in Dallas. Sure we'll see.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, I don't know if they'll keep him.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
But if you were to present the pro Mike McCarthy
argument is this is his fifth season as the head
coach of the Dallas Cowboys, and at least in the
regular season he has either won twelve games or Dak
has been hurt.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Those are the two options. Yeah, it's like that. You
see that forty nine or stat over the last like
twenty something years, either it to the NFC Championship game
or missed the playoffs. Right, it's interesting, like you can
think of another guy like that, like how do you
feel about the Dolphins Mike McDaniels is is that like
one more year and it's like, hey, if they if
this team doesn't show signs of playoff life, Yeah, then

(32:15):
is that a failed experiment?

Speaker 7 (32:17):
I guess when it's about wins and losses, that's how
it generally stacks up. Let's turn our attention to another
head coach in the NFL. Well, actually, let's do a
group of We are, of course looking at some of
the end of season awards. We've already talked a lot
about Pro Bowl selections. Well, here's another Accolade up for grabs,
Coach of the Year. And if you look at Draft Kings,
there is a current runaway favorite for coach of the year.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Hmm, what do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Dan Campbell, Dan Campbell second, oh Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Kevin O'Connell is your answer currently minus one thousand, Dan
Campbell in second plus five point fifty Andy Reid plus
fourteen hundred, Dan Quinn plus two thousand, Jim Harbaugh, Sean McVay,
Mike Tomlin, and then Sean Payton. I'm actually kind of
surprised Sean Payton wasn't higher on that list, he was behind,
like even a Sean McVay, who Look, the Rams have

(33:11):
had a nice season, but I feel like the expectations
were way more outperformed on the Broncos behalf than the Rams.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Listen, if you listened to any host on any network
six months ago, no one would have thought the Broncos
made the playoffs over teams like Cincinnati. The Jets had
high hopes, like there were teams that are out of
the mix. Jacksonville showed no signs of life.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You know so, but.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
That that makes the game even juicier this weekend. Juicy
who's playing for Coach of the Year. Sure, Yeah, that's
the way they call Connor at He's the quarterback whisperer.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Oh yeah, just knows how to get Sam Donald right.
We'll finish up with this another day. Another NBA star
would the Stars could find himself a new team. The
Heat took an l against the Pacers last night. That's
hardly the story. This is actually the story we're keeping
an eye on. Here's Jimmy Butler after the game.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
I want to see me get my joy back from
playing basketball. Wherever that may be. We'll find out here
pretty soon. But I'm gonna get my joy back. I'm
happy here off the court, but I want to be
back to somewhere dominant. I want to hoop and I
want to help this same win. Right now, I'm not
doing a.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Can you get your joy back here on the court?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Probably not old statement right there. I mean, there's nothing
really to dissect. He's not happy there. He's happy in Miami,
but just not on the court with that team. And
he's not gonna help this team win.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
He wants out.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
They're not great, but they're they're over five hundred, I mean,
and that's that's in the in the Eastern Conference. Not
a lot of teams over five hundred. Mmy Butler is
one of those mood guys. And you know, I'm not
used to seeing them this discontent, Like this guy does
not look happy there. And that's not the Jimmy Butler
you want to see. You're not gonna win. He's not
sad face coffee, You're not yet, no, no, but you're

(34:56):
not gonna win with sad Jimmy Butler. That's just not
even in his character. He's not happy. It's clear as day.
All right, Thank you, Ryan, thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the
Herd Line news.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
All right, well, hey, coming up? What to watch this weekend?
Of course the NFL, of course some MBA. But what
else is going on the you might want to keep
your eye on.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
We do it.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's called weekend hob nobbin And for Colin more Kaveno
and Rich next.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
One more Heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, search Herd
to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Happy New Year. I hope you're having a great one.
Hope you have a nice weekend. You're taking down your
Christmas stuff? Yeah, because there's no real fun football to
watch until late at night. So yeah, that's my plan.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
It's like the.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Weakest part of the year as far as once you
take down those Christmas decorations, walls are empty, your house
looks lame, like everything looks empty, and like this is
where we live, where's all the decorations. Then again, I
always say you snap your fingers in the Super bowls.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Here.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
January is like the longest yet shortest month, and right
act next week I'm excited because this weekend you got
of course week eighteen, which is a little lackluster, like
we've been talking about.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
But Wildcard weekend, now that you.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Have six games and they extend into that Monday night,
Now that's that to me second only to the divisional weekend,
because divisional weekend in the NFL, to me is the
by far. Like you when you're down to the final
eight teams, and I'd like to say, we know those
those eight teams, but there's always one team that sneaks in.

(36:31):
But Ryan, you and I were talking about how in
the AFC it would be shocking if it wasn't Kansas City, Baltimore,
Buffalo and whatever that fourth team is there. They're almost
just like a miscongeniality. Yeah, just happy to be a
part of it. Maybe the Texans or Pittsburgh or someone.
But it really is a matter.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
Of Yeah, like four weeks ago, you thought, oh wow,
this Steelers team could be one of those, and now
the last three weeks you're like this Steelers.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I hate to say this because we have a lot
of friends and listeners that are Steelers fans, but midway
through the season, I said, guys, really happy for you,
but Cavino would back me up. Never any point did
I believe that they were better than the Ravens in
that division, but because they led that division up until
a few weeks ago, and.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I said them had to head that first matchup.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I said, dude, they're good, but they're not like thirteen
and four, twelve and five good. I'm like, they will
come back to reality, and that's exactly what happened. They're
likely a ten and seven, you know, type of team
makes the playoffs, but asc to me sort of set
and then the NFC.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Do you think that.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
You could say Sunday Nights game is the most impactful
regular season game in the last decade. Oh yeah, Like
we already said, there's so many, so many reasons to watch.
Whoever wins glides to the NFC championship and the other
team is you know, battling or what.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Whoever wins coach of the year in my opinion, Yeah,
I see it.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I mean, and yeah, just just take a look for
one second at the different paths these teams would take,
and then we'll get into weekend hob nobin. I know,
uh when you alright here, let's let's let's look at
the playoff situation. If Detroit is the one seed, right,
then Minnesota then has to go away go play in Tampa.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, then they got to play.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Then they gotta go play Detroit again because that that
would be a wildcard, probably the lowest seed. Then they
have to go play in Detroit again. Like it is
so much to stake again, so much, it's take now, Minnesota.
I think Minnesota wins. Viking fans should be super excited
that you might make it to the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
So you know what, let's do. Let's get to weekend
hob nobin for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You're winning bets for talking points.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
If you get stuck socializing, you ever done anything dangerous?
You ever dance with the devil in the pale line?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Friday brings us weekend hobb Now.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
So of course you're gonna be watching Minnesota at Detroit
and all your food's ball. But this is what else
you need to check out this weekend so you have
something to talk about when you go back to work.
Officially weekend hob nob and we do it every Friday
on the Cavino and Rich Show. I'm gonna start off
by recommending a movie I already saw, so I'm recommending
it to you.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
And that is no s Feratu stop. Oh yes, yes,
the story of nos Fu.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh yes, yes, I'm telling you you can say poor
Man's Dracula. I'm saying this could be nominated for a
few awards people that don't know Nosferatu, because I did it.
When you do that voice, it just weirds me out.
Means it's like a weekends Dracula. It's good man, I say,

(39:49):
you go to the theater out. Also, you got the
eighty second Golden Gloves, the annual Golden Globes.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
But our pal, our good pal.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Who blew up after the top, I'm Brady roast Nicki
Glazers hosting Paramount Plus that's on the fifth at eight pm.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
So you got your Golden Gloves.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Not a big fan of the Golden Gloves, but I'm
a fan of Nicky Glazer, root for her American Pickers,
big fan of Mike Wolfe Complete season twenty five, available
on Hulu this weekend. And can I shamelessly actually, I'm
just gonna promote it. Nothing shameful about it, over promised
our bonus podcast on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page, Episode
seventy four. We talk about player incentives this weekend and

(40:30):
we do that Kelsey Mix Cereal Taste tests live on
overpromised Netflix. Squid Game season two. I'm up to episode
four now. I can't believe how all the main dude
got though.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
I didn't know. I didn't know it was the same dude.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He looked like he aged the way of President Ages
turned into somebody, turned into an instant meme. Seriously, but
if you could get first big, get past the first
two episodes, which is a lot of set up in like,
I'll be honest, like, how would you even describe it?

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Like storyline?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
But to me, do you watch that for the storyline
or just the uh, the squid Game itself? I thought
the first episode was pretty good, right, So screen Game
season two, that's trending number one. If you did not
catch it at the theater and you want to watch
the Wifey, the kids, the Girlfriend Wicked, you could watch
now from the comfort of your own home. No way,
really thirty bucks to buy, twenty bucks to rent. But

(41:26):
then again, that's like the price of a movie taken
in some places, So Wicked's available to watch it home. Germany,
Love is Blind, Love is Bye. That's desperate for trash TV.
They're gonna watch a German edition of this and maybe
not Nate margin Agin see Dice Nate Brghsey's stand up special.
I thought that was pretty good. You can watch Out

(41:46):
with the kids too. It's sort of, you know, rated
for family. He takes a lot of pride in being
family friendly. He's funny dude. And if you want, there's
a show where you live on an island with the
with your in laws. This is a dating show on Netflix.
How would you? How would you? You're in your girlfriend's

(42:08):
fans are cool, but would you want to be on
an island stuck with them? Yeah? And of course you've
talked about it. I've talked about it on our regular show.
If you're not on it yet, Dexter Original Sin, Yeah,
now you're talking fantastic the casting if if you love
Dexter back in the day on Showtime, it's a prequel.
It really is fantastic, really good. Anything on your writerr Ryan,

(42:31):
what are you watching this weekend?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
So?

Speaker 7 (42:32):
I'm notoriously bad about keeping up with shows during the
football season, but now that we're getting a little bit
of breathing room, I'm trying to catch up on Silo
Apple TV.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
So I'm caught up last night.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
So good I'm three episodes into this newest season, so
we're we're getting there.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
We're starting to catch up a little bit. It's getting
really good. Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Do you think, by the way, if you don't watch Island,
do you think there's gonna be some type of resolution
at the end, like we're going to realize what happened
to the world.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I certainly hope. So there's no payoff, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Be acrit Yes, yes, well, you know, let's talk about
this off the I want to talk about Silo, Danny
g what's on your radar?

Speaker 5 (43:04):
We talk so much NFL that I usually give you
some college just some smaller bowl games today and tomorrow.
We're waiting for next Thursday and Friday, of course the
Cotton Bowl and the Orange Bowl, Notre Dame at Penn
State in Ohio, State at Texas. So can't wait for
that big payoff?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Nice? Anything on your radar? Yeah, you gave away all
the ones that I wanted to watch. I wanted to watch.
I gotta catch up on Square Game, I gotta I
want to watch Wicked because I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Shrinking on Apple TV as a shout too, Shrinkings right,
So hey, lot's to watch and of course Week eighteen
of the NFL enjoy. Thank you Colin for letting us
filling music. You de man appreciate you. Ryan, Danny G's
Botty I will see you later, Ariba Direci baby, do
you in the Promise Land? Goodbye guys,
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