3 & Out - What the Playoffs really mean, Divisional Games Preview, Fugazi Friday - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on? Everybody happy Fugazi Friday.
Hopefully everyone is doing good. Here's the plan. Talk a

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little football talk, a little legacy talk, a little who's
got something on the line, because kind of a big week,
some big games. Obviously a big game in Detroit, big
game in Kansas City, big game in City of brotherly love.
Except for the guy screaming at that girl, which might
have been egg done. Not quite sure on that story,

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refuse to follow it more than like two minutes. But
and then obviously the heavyweight matchup in Buffalo. So we
will just talk big picture with those games. Hit on
a couple other things football wise, the biggest fugazi I
think I've ever seen when it comes to college. Stucky
will join us. We will break down the games from

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a gambling standpoint. He's got stats, he's got notes, and yeah,
we've got takes and thoughts on who to gamble on
this weekend. I will have a mail bag out on Saturday.
I will have a podcast out after the games on
Saturday night. I'm going with Colin after the Ravens Buffalo game.

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So we got a lot of content flying. Make sure
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we've got a bunch of content up there as well. Listen.
Let's dive right in the reason I love sports, and
I've said this forever is like I like watching the best.
Like when I was a kid, I loved watching the

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forty nine Ers play the Cowboys for what was going
to be the Super Bowl. I loved watching Michael Jordan.
I loved watching as Tiger Woods hit the scene. And
I think ratings and interest would show you so do
most people. And I think what's made the NFL so special,

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And I've said forever football was very very popular when
I was a kid, but obviously basketball was huge, and
so was baseball. The Internet age, when Peyton Manning and
Tom Brady in the early two thousands shot off like
rocket ships to me were the Larry Bird and Magic
Johnson mixed with Michael Jordan of football and have taken

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it to popularities that most people probably thought were never
possible and have created the most popular sport in America
by a country mile. It's so big that it's taken
college football, which was extremely regional, and has made it
by far the number two sport in America, not even

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a close third place. They're not even looking over their shoulder.
It's not a fair fight. And what this group of
young quarterbacks we have to see. You know, Patrick Mahomes
has a long way to go. Obviously, Josh Allen and
Lamar have not won anything. So when you factor in
what Brady and Peyton Manning, you know they want to combined.

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Brady won seven, Manning one two. Tom went to whatever
ten and Peyton went to four. You got Rogers one another.
I mean it was a pretty historical little run there
of quarterbacks of just like I mean, Tom Brady's the
greatest quarterback of all time, I think universally agreed upon.
Peyton Manning is a top five quarterback of all time.

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You know, Aaron Rodgers is a polarizing one because it's
like he's more talent than a lot of other guys.
But it's like, God, he only got to one Super Bowl,
not all his fault the defense has let him down.
But is he better than b Brett Farv? I think
most people would argue yes, even though I think the
peak of Farv might have been better. Far have got
to multiple super Bowls. But regardless like, these are the

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people we talk about, and I was thinking about it
today driving around. Let's use Josh Allen and Lamar Jacks.
Let's start with that game. These guys when it's all
said and done, assuming they stay healthy and knock on wood,
because they are two of the more entertaining players I've
ever watched any sport in football, you know, basketball, baseball,

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you name it, play football, and they're gonna make hundreds
of millions of dollars. Both of them are under contracts
that are worth hundreds of millions, and if they just
stay healthy, they will sign much bigger contracts. On it's
all said and done, their combined NFL earnings could be
a billion dollars. And that has nothing to do with playoffs. Honestly,

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it doesn't. Right, both these guys. You know, obviously one
of them has to win this game, but we could
look back in ten years and neither of them ever
get to a Super Bowl, never get to a super Bowl,
let alone win one, and that will not impact how
much money those two guys make. So when it comes
to the ability to earn and change the course of

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your family's life, and I mean, they're gonna go down
as two of the richest players more than likely in
the history of the league at the time. It's not
about the playoffs, But I think what makes the playoffs
so awesome is like Josh Allen will make the same
amount as the forty third guy on the roster. Dressing
the playoffs is not about money. The playoffs is truly

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about your legacy. And I think this game is the
heavyweight fight of the weekend. And there is easily a
chance that they both play well, and obviously one team
has to lose, and that guy will take a lot
of shit, fair or not. And there's a chance of
one of these defenses, which feels more likely to be
the Bills, let them down. And a guy still has

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three hundred yards and throws for three touchdowns. He's the
guy we talk about because he's the breadwinner and he's
the one that drives everything in football, the quarterback, And
that's what makes this all fun. Man. I think one
of these guys is gonna be in position. I mean, listen,
Lamar Jackson. If the Baltimore Ravens win, we'll have back

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to back opportunities to beat the Chiefs. Obviously couldn't take
him down last year, but we'll have a damn good
shot again. And if Josh Allen wins, he'll get his
whatever shot to beat the Chiefs. He's had a lot
of them, had a good one last year at home.
Lost played him years ago in the NFC Championship game
or the NFC Championship game when the rule got changed

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for overtime and lost. And there's a chance. And we've
seen it before, like no one really beat Tiger Woods,
were Peyton Manning or Michael Jordan. It was very, very rare,
and that's maybe what we're in the middle of. But
this game's huge for one of these two guys because
whoever wins it is just simply gonna have the bragging
rights over the other guy. And regardless who ends up

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winning the MVP, it feels sometimes like the Heisman, when
the Heisman is given and then some other dude that
was like third in the Heisman ends up leading his
team to a national championship and everyone's like, oh, they
should have given the Heisman after the playoffs or after
the National Championship game. And I think that will be
a lot of the conversation if the dude that doesn't
win the MVP wins this game, especially if he were

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to go on and beat the Chiefs. And that's what
makes football fun. I mean, think about Patrick Mahomes, he's
you know, almost I mean a ten point favorite in
this game. I don't think you could meet a soul
outside of like Dmico, Ryans, Nick Cassario, McNair's kid and
the players on Houston who would pick the Houston Texans.

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Not a soul in America. And there's definitely not going
to be a human being. Like the difference is everyone
attending the Buffalo Bills game. When you walk into the
stadium as a fan, you're gonna be really nervous, and
rightfully so, I mean you're playing, you're an underdog, even
though it's point flip game, but like there's no guarantee
you're winning that thing. There is not one huge human being.

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Let's just I'll just pick an even number, seventy thousand people.
That's what Arrowhead fits. There is not one person of
those seventy thousand people that is a Chiefs fan. Obviously
there'll be a couple of Texans fans here and there,
but every single Chiefs fans that enters that stadium Saturday afternoon,
none of them from the morning they get up that morning.
From the moment they have a few cocktails, few beers,

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eat some BBQ in the parking lot, head into the stadium.
It never crosses their mind they're going to lose that game.
And when they win, which feels very likely, this will
be Mahomes. He's the moment he started took over for
Alex Smith. He's never missed the AFC Championship game. I mean,
that's fucking insane. Seven straight AFC Championship games. Obviously, he's

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gone to four Super Bowls and won three of them.
That's and then obviously they're hosting the AFC Championship Game.
If he wins, they're gonna be favored in the game.
It's pretty crazy the run they're on. Even when you
look back Brady and Belichick, they win one, they missed
the playoffs in O two. Now, granted they won them
back to back in three and oh four, but I

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mean there was just a lull there for a year.
I mean, there has been no les. I mean, the
lowest moment of this last like five or six year run,
I guess technically seven for the Chiefs was losing to
the Raiders on Christmas Day, a regular season game. Obviously,
they've lost Super Bowl and lost AFC championship games, you know,

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to Tom Brady. I mean, think about that, and it's like, oh, yeah,
they lost the one AFC Championship game to Joe Burrow,
a guy that has like an argument to win the
MVP on a nine to eighteen. So it just I
think the legacy and the discussion around Patrick mahomes like

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it's gonna be very, very difficult for anyone to ever
do what he's doing again, just rattle off that many
AFC Championship games in a row, where only once during
that run he's even had to go on the road.
An underrated part about the Detroit Lions is that if
Jared Goff he would this would be his third conference

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championship game. Think about that. You know, it wasn't that
long ago that McVeagh essentially had to apologize to Jared
Goff for kind of shitting on him. I mean, obviously
they got rid of him, but McVeigh was very outspoken
and very critical of like didn't think he was any
good and didn't really like him for some reason. And
in my experience, you know, I lived in the Bay

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Area when he was in college. I had never heard
a bad word about Jared Goff. Maybe Sean McVay, who's
obviously got a chance to be an all time coach,
very just in terms of urgency and no sleep and
just hard charger, going one hundred miles an hour everything
he does. And Jared's got a little California cool to him.

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But he wins this game where he's a nine and
a half point favorite, and he's in the NFC Championship
Game for the second year in a row. He also
took the Rams. It's got to be a short list
of quarterbacks who have taken multiple teams to the NFC
Championship Game or AFC for that, you know, either championship game.
If he takes the Lions to the Super Bowl, took

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multiple teams to the Super Bowl. This guy was the
number one overall pick, having a pretty unreal career. I mean,
this guy lock Pro Bowl over the last couple of years,
clearly one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Many
would argue was the top dog in the NFC this year.
Like it's gonna be hard to argue when it's all
sudden done. Like Jared Goss had an incredible career even

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though when you think of like Jared Goff, you don't
think of like Lamar Josh Allen, or Mahomes or Peyton
Manning or Aaron Rodgers. I think it's going a lot
better than people realized. Obviously as a rookie, you know,
I think you look at CJ. Stroud last year, incredible
season than losing the second round, no one holds against
him losing the Baltimore Ravens, just like this year c

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J Stroud kind of a weird year. More people blame
the coordinator, lose to the Chiefs in the second round,
no one's gonna hold it against him. If Jaden Daniels
takes one of the worst franchises in the history of
sports for twenty years, I mean, an absolute laughingstock of

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the league under Daniel Snyder, immediately gets there obviously he's
not there anymore, and takes him to twelve wins, and
then we're to upset the Lions, I mean, just upset
the Bucks on the road, and clearly they can't win
a game without him being incredible, which I don't think
is gonna happen, but if it does, I mean we
would be talking about like historic stuff. As a rookie,

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and I think part of it. And this is where
Jared Goff gets more credit. You're doing that with a Lions.
You and Dan Campbell did that with the Lions, and
I would throw Dan Campbell in there too. This guy
took over the fucking Lions and four years later has
him on the precipice of going to the second straight
NFC Champship game and being sixty minutes away from a
super Bowl. Again, that's insane. Everyone was making fun of

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this guy. They called him like the player version of
Jim tom Sula. I mean, can you imagine how offensive
that is saying that out loud? Now? I was there
for like some of Jim tom Sula's practices, It's the
most embarrassing thing I've ever seen, not just in sports,
I would argue in business, in just a professional setting.
It was a joke and that was who he was

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kind of compared to. And now this guy took the
Lions like the Redskins under Snyder, the joke of the
league and has him this good with Jared Goff. Pretty crazy. Now,
that's of course he did with Jared Goff. He's a
number one overall pick. The next game is pretty fascinating
because Jalen's a very polarizing player. When you just asked

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a simple question like is he goodt passing? I was like,
the guy's really good. He's been to the playoffs basically
every year. He's been starting plays on some of the
best teams in the NFL. Is a playmaker. But the
conversation comes up a lot like is he good at passing?
Like would you want him to be your quarterback if
you had to pass? A lot? Like that's a legitimate question,

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And Sirianni is like, he actually has viewed much now
that Dan Campbell, no one makes fun of him. It's like,
is Sirianni actually closer to Tom Suler than we realize?
How he's just so good at picking players. The owners
spends so much money, they're such a good drafting team.
They'll pay so much for coordinators. It doesn't even matter
who their head coaches. But he wins this game. Him
and Jalen Yan criticize a lot. People have a lot

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of different opinions on him. I'm guilty as well. Ei
their second NFC championship game in three years, he'd be like,
and from a roster standpoint, I think a lot of
people would pick him to win the game next week.
So it's like, listen, you can make fun of Sirianni
all you want, and we can nitpick Jalen all we want.
Their resume is gonna look pretty damn good, and the

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rams like Stafford's number outside are pretty concerning. I saw
someone throw it up his numbers recently in freezing cold
situations where snow are bad. And obviously the older he gets,
I mean, he's gonna be thirty seven, underrated, sneaky older,
way older than you think. I think if he just
asks average person like how old is Matt Safford, they'd

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be like, oh, thirty four. I mean he's he's two
weeks away from being thirty seven, And clearly I would
say these last couple of years at moments he showed
his age. But he can still have like when he
has like last week when he's fresh, looks incredible. Stafford
and McVeigh have the Super Bowl, So once you get

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that moment Rogers did, there's nothing like you can nitpick
him or whatever, but they always have that trump card.
I'm a super Bowl champion, I won the Super Bowl.
These type moments are just about adding pelts to the
wall and you go into Philly in a cold environment
on a short week. Like, I don't know what else
we would say about McVeigh be, it'd be pretty unreal,

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But I think there are just some underrated Obviously, to me,
the number one storyline is whatever quarterback wins this game
in the Buffalo Ravens game is gonna get talked about,
probably not even as much as the guy that loses
the game. And John Harbaugh rightfully, so, I mean, i'd
say he's on scholarship. Could it get a little weird

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for Sean McDermott be back to back years losing. It's
one thing to lose to the Chiefs, it'd be another
thing to lose to the team that's under them in
the Ravens at home, and they would have lost to
him twice. You know, I'd say, Sirianni if he were
to lose this game, and he's a pretty big favorite,
I think he's safe just because almost you would give

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this operation another year. The problem is, and we'll dive
into this in a second, like the interview schedule is
a little weird, and obviously the Dion things out there,
but like I think the easy move for Jerry is
to hire Kellen Moore now and more, no one's gonna
get him confused with you know, Bill Walsh this season.

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But I think a lot of people would be like,
I don't think it's Jalen's not the easiest guy to coach.
And offensively, they dominated running the football and they have
had moments passing the ball. So if you lose that guy,
we saw this before with Shane sykein and there's no guarantee,
Like Shane Sychen might just be a bad head coach, right,
he might be a really good offensive coordinator, good offensive mind,
but a head coach is too much for him. But

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that was clearly a big loss for the Eagles, Like
do they want to go through this again? Because they
their head coach can't call plays. He's an offensive guy,
they will not allow him to call plays and he
doesn't even want to because that would really expose him.
So the Eagles like, do you want to just let
him go to the Cowboys? And maybe they do, maybe
they have another guy. But I just think the McDermott thing,

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the Sirianni thing could get a little weird. And speaking
of Dallas, you know, the one part of I think
the NFL that they just can't figure out is this
interview thing. It's just very, very yanky, and it's tough.
I don't have a great solution because a lot of

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guys that you want to talk to are in the
playoffs and it makes it difficult. And they've had to
put in rules to protect those guys, because how can
a human being. It's way easier anytime you see these
gms interviewing like Borgazzi from the Chiefs, it doesn't take
anything away. It doesn't impact Andy Reid the game plan

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one iota, But when you're talking about coordinators, it's a
pretty big deal. And for the number one seed, their
benefit of last week. Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn. I think
Spags Naggy like they're not doing they don't even know
who they're playing. So those guys interviewing on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
no big deal. Doesn't impact this week at all. But

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I saw Kellen Moore is talking with the Cowboys tomorrow afternoon.
Now it's a unique interview. He's known Jerry for a
long time. He was not only a player there, coach there,
and Jerry Wants talked about him like he was gonna
be their future head coach and all signs point might be,
but like you having to do an interview as a
coordinator on a game week of the playoffs seems pretty

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fucked up, and clearly you can't do in person interviews,
while these people that are either out of the playoffs
or out of a job can fly to owners can
do whatever they want. I just wonder if this whole
process should start maybe after the super Bowl and almost

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push everything back, or at least maybe till the bye
week of the super Bowl, because right now things just
feel not fair and I don't know, something's got to give.
I mean, there's been constant pushback on some of these
rules on if you're Dan Campbell, like that's why the

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one seed was so big, because every team wanted to
talk to you, your two guys, and winning the one
seed wasn't just giving your guys rests, but it was
allowing your two coaches, who are your game planners and
play callers, to not have to cramp and kind of
just get to do interviews where they weren't rushed trying
to game plan for something that was going to happen

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in twenty four to forty eight hours. And I just
think it's pretty messed up, and I think the league
and if I was involved as an owner of a
team that constantly has people getting interviewed, I would continue
to want to remedy this and make some changes. Okay.
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more angry on the sideline, yet had a more impactful week?
Aj Brown he is reading a book called Inner Excellence
Spy a guy named Jim Murphy. I'll be honest, I'd
never heard of it based on the Amazon rankings. Most
people had noted either, because it wasn't even ranked in

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the top five hundred and twenty thousand books on Amazon.
Yet he gets caught. I don't even want to say cod.
He just gets seen on camera during the Packers game,
and I think it's clear he's trying to just calm
himself down because his quarterback struggles to throw him the ball.
I know Jalen pretended then everything was great, Everything was

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awesome a couple of weeks ago. You don't read a
book called Inner Excellence with highlighted portions if you're not
trying to calm your nerves on the sideline for not
getting the football. But Aj Green, you talk about this
word's become very popular. Are you an influencer? What type
influence do you have? He took a book it was

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not ranked in the top five hundred thousand books on
Amazon to number one overall. He had one catch for
ten yards. Think about the impact AJ Brown just made.
If I had a book and that book was struggling
on Amazon, I would do everything humanly possible to get
to his people, to get to his agent, to get
to agent, to get that's a big dom and say,

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what do I need to do to get my novel?
To get my book in AJ Brown's hands. So when
the Fox cameras show Aj just firing through pages between
the series, it's my book in my name and I
go to the number one spot on Amazon. So that
that is an amazing accomplishment what Aj Brown did? I

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saw a little clip online about Jim Murphy saying how
cool it was. He didn't even never saw this coming.
I think he's, you know, kind of a motivation guy,
works with people, but just made him a lot of money.
And speaking about hot coaches, he looks good. But Sean
McVay has a chance to He has eight playoff wins,

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and once you win a super Bowl you're kind of
playing just everything's kind of gravy, and clearly he wants
another one. But if he's never able to get another one,
not the end of the world. You got the one.
What really adds to your legacy, to your resume is
doing things like last week there's fires in La he

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has to hop on a plane with not just his
whole team, but their whole family, their dogs, their kids,
go fly to Arizona, spend a couple of days there
play essentially a road game against Minnesota because they got
so many Vikings fans here in the valley. And he
kicks their ass and he dominates, and he wins his

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eighth playoff game. He's not even forty years old. He's
got a super Bowl and eight playoff victories. I would
say this, if he goes on the road to Philly
and upsets the Eagles, it'd be one of the most
impressive stretches. This team was not even in good I
mean washing them down the stretch. Their offense looked terrible.
I mean their defense was never that good as we

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just saw against Minnesota. And we all acknowledge we saw
these two teams play. The Eagles are dramatically more talented
than the Rams. And that's not a shot at the Rams.
The Eagles are just, you could argue, you, man for man,
the most talented team in the NFL. So Sean McVay,
we know he looks good, got that hair, got that
got that beard, perfectly manicured, small waist, the little uh

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you know, the the Joggers rock and he just pulls
it off well. Good looking, good looking dude, awesome football coach.
You could get his ninth win, go on the road.
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I gotta do uh Fugazi Friday. And I think I saw.
I'm sure many of you that spent some time on
the internet saw weeks ago. Schefter and my guy Gottlieb,
I go on Doug's radio show every Tuesday, get into
it online and you know U this was over. Mike

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Vick was thinking about going to sax State and sax
State had a pledge of fifty million dollars in an nil,
and Doug was mad because he thinks it's it's all
bullshit and it clearly like sex State does not have
fifty million dollars in a nil. And I think overall
people in the loop are just tired of the bs

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that gets thrown out there. Obviously, people make money in
college athletics. Now Cooper Flags making millions. Quinn Ewers just
was making seven figures. The top quarterbacks in this championship
game are making seven figures. People are making money. You
got random players making three four hundred grand like, no
one's even pretending that's not happening. And in the NFL

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numbers get thrown out that are fake, and then we
just learn what the actual numbers are. It's like, this
guy actually got this. This is Jordan Love's actual contract.
He gets twenty five million dollars here, he gets twenty
five million dollars here, he gets thirty million dollars here.
This is not geararanteed. You just you get a clear picture.
Do this is justin Jefferson, what the actual money is.

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We're in college sports, at least us on the outside
have no clue what is actually true. But today it
was reported that Quinn Yours, the Texas quarterback who just
declared for the National Football League, was offered eight million
dollars in the transfer portal. Let me repeat that he

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was offered eight million dollars in the transfer portal. I
don't buy that for a second one because if you
watch Quinn Ewers play this year, in really the last
couple of years, he's not a first round player. I'd
argue he's not even a second day player. Could he
end up getting drafted in the third round for sure?

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Do I think he's going to go in the top
fifty picks of this draft. I do not.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I looked and I just picked Ricky Pearson, who was
the thirty first pick in the draft and went to
the forty nine ers. So at the end of the
first round and in the first round, you get a
four year, fully guaranteed contract, but his signing bonus, meaning
once he signs his contract, the money he gets within
I think it's like a fourteen day period was a

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little over six million dollars. So you're telling me that
guys at the end of the first round are and
again quittin yours. The eight million dollars would just be
for one year and then he could go to the
draft and get drafted and sign a contract. So when
you look at it, like Ricky Pearsol's twelve million dollar
contract is over the course of four seasons, when they're

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offering eight million dollars for to transfer in the next
week or two and essentially spend till potentially December there
maybe middle to late December, twelve months, one year contract,
eight million dollars. Sam Darnold this year got one year
contract worth ten million dollars from the Minnesota fucking Vikings.
I don't believe for a second this is true. I

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am calling complete bs and this NIL is becoming the
biggest fugazi we've ever seen when it comes to some
of these numbers being thrown around, and listen, if you're
an agent, you want these numbers out. I think it
has become the new Jordan Love signs for two hundred
and seventy five million dollars, It's like, well, actually he

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got one hundred and fifty five guaranteed. I think that's
what these NIL deals are becoming. Maybe there was, hey, Quinn,
do you transfer here? We'll pay you two million dollars
with the chance to equal eight. Remember when Florida offered
that kid, Jaden Reshada I think twelve million dollars and
then he thought they pulled pulled out on him, and

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then he sued him, and then he transferred from Arizona
State to Georgia. Now he's transferred again. I think all
these guys are realizing a lot of this money is fake. Clearly,
there are a lot of guys making two fifty three hundred,
five hundred thousand dollars good money playing college football, and
they're the occasional quarterback signing a true deal for maybe
one million dollars two million dollars. Last year, cam Ward

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who it's up for debate where he's going to go
in the draft, but bade less than two million dollars.
And now Quinn Yours was going to be offered eight
million dollars in the transfer portal. I've heard of budgets
that are big in the transfer portal that are like
twelve to fifteen million dollars. Ohio State broke the bank

(30:32):
this year with twenty million dollars. So even if you
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Speaker 1 (32:43):
Okay, as we come down the home stretch, we have
four games this week. We got a National Championship. That's five.
We got an AFC and NFC. That's seven in the
Super Bowl, so I count eight football games left, which
makes me really sad. I don't count spring football. So

(33:04):
we really got to take these games in, enjoy them,
and most importantly, gamble on them. The Pro Bowl either
I do not, do they even still play or is
that flag football? Or no clue what they're even doing there.
But I got my main fan, Stucky, from the Action Network.
You can find them basically everywhere. Action Network podcast, Big

(33:25):
Bets on campus. I actually watched a little college hoops
the other day. Stucky Cooper Flag looks pretty freaking good.
He played Miami that probably has like me and you
on the squad. But holy shit, I guess don't see
how he's not gonna be good in the NBA. But
other than that, Stucky, how we doing good.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, just getting ready for It's crazy time for me.
I mean, I have doing this, just did my NFL podcast,
Action Network podcast after this, have National Championship preview podcasts,
Big Bets on Campus in a college basketball podcast for
the weekend. So crazy time of the year, but excited

(34:06):
for the football For my money, it's the best weekend
in the NFL season.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You gamble a lot on college hoops right now, or
do you wait for the football season and or you conference.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Not as much volume as I will have, especially like
it's just it's like college football, these rosters are changing
so drastically that it's hard for me to keep up.
I mean because it's so much more work to keep
up in the off season with college football, like and
to try to keep up with the college basketball in
college football is crazy. So yeah, I'm betting it. But

(34:42):
ye will really start to pick up here after this weekend,
get college football in the rearview, and then you know
NFL would only be three games left. So but excited
for to enjoy these last football games. This weekend is
usually awesome. There's two favorites of a touchdown or more.

(35:05):
We haven't had two favorites sweep against the spreads of
both cover multiple We haven't had multiple favorites cover of
seven or more points on divisional weekend since two thousand
and one. Sixteen times we've had multiple favorites of seven
or more points since two thousand and one, all sixteen
at least one dog covered. So history says at least

(35:30):
the Chiefs or the Lions are going to get a
scare here, and maybe an NFL favorite of seven or
more points is due to go down in the playoffs
because we've seen eighteen straight win outright, which is an
NFL record since the merger. The last time a favorite

(35:50):
of seven or more points lost in the playoffs, you
got to go back to twenty nineteen, I believe when
the Ravens lost to the Titans.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Were a touchdown favorite. Last year against the Packers at home,
none probably six. Yeah, it might have been a little under,
but that was that had upset written all over. It
wouldn't have been quite a touchdown. Obviously last year the Chiefs,
which is crazy to say, but it is true, they
did upset the Bills based on the gambling line, right,

(36:23):
which in fairness, like I think a lot of people
I didn't bet against that game bet against the next two.
But I think a lot of people thought they were
going to go down, and they did.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
The Ravens too. Ravens too. That was like a four
point favorite. Yeah, and the Division Round last year they
that that did count as one of the not covering
I think the forty nine like ten point favorites.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
In that game, they only won by three.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Against the Packers.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, so uh.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Didn't just win by three. I mean they were down
most of the game. I mean they were getting they
were in trouble. They were in major trouble.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, that was Uh, it's close. So we're kind of
overdue for one. It's hard to see the Chiefs ever
going down.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Well, let's let's just start with that game. All lines
here presented by DraftKings. Obviously they played, you know, a
couple of weeks ago. Houston actually was more than serviceable
in that game and hit a big play to Tank
Dell and then his lake shattered, knee shattered, and his
career feels like in Jeopardy now, and it just derailed Houston.

(37:31):
I mean, you had guys on the sideline crying. There's
just I mean, he he looked awesome in that game.
Second straight year. Obviously he has a devastating knee injury
in the end zone. I mean, it was I don't
even know what to say. And then, you know, a
lot like the Packers, I feel like Houston had high
hopes and then when you watched him, even though they

(37:53):
both made the playoffs, I know Houston won the division
part of it, as their division sucked. Something just looked
off most of the year, and even in that game
last week against the Chargers, you're like, God, this team
looks like shit. And then that final series of the
first half, the snap CJ, they almost miss it, and
then he makes an incredible play and they never kind
of look back, and Herbert fell apart, and the Chiefs,

(38:15):
who were winning every game, Everyone's like, God, this team's
not that good, not that good. Finally get healthy and
look incredible, and now it feels like, I don't know,
a borderline lock, maybe that they won't I don't know
if everyone would bet their life savings that they're gonna
represent the AFC in the Super Bowl because of how
good the Bills and Ravens are, but it does feel
like universally it would be stunning, not only if the

(38:39):
Chiefs don't win this game, but like, win this game
by a lot. They're eight and a half point favored.
Like I would have said, anything's possible. But watching the
way they played when they had to flip a switch,
and let's face it, a little like the Kevin Durant Warriors.
Their season was really always about January and it kind
of they proved actually they started taking it seriously in December,

(39:02):
and last year it took the Raiders game. So I
actually think Houston's a little underrated because they have such
high end players like CJ's obviously can be really good.
Nico Is would start for every team in the NFL.
They have a two sweet pass rushers, they have the
best corner. It's like they have high end impact players.
Problem is, their offensive line is a major problem and

(39:24):
the Chiefs defensive line is gonna be well rested. So
it feels like a lot of points for me, you know,
eight and a half. But man, I have a hard
time if the Chiefs are clicking and Houston, I mean,
he played a good half of football. Could this thing
get ugly fast? Because if I was gonna take a side,
I think he'd have to lay the points for Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Yeah, I think the line's a bit too high. I mean,
Mahomes and this team rarely ever covered these numbers. I mean,
I think they're zero and six this year against the
spread as a favorite of over a touchdown. I do
think it's not a great matchup for the Texans.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean started doing it the last couple of weeks
down the stretch.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, I mean, but again they were they were short favorites.
I mean, like against they were minus three. They closed
against the Texans at home. That's crazy on Christmas. Now
they're might a say nap. Now, the Texans lost Jimmy
Ward in that game, and then more importantly, they lost
Tanked Dell and they were cooking that Chiefs defense before

(40:22):
he got hurt. They also had offensive line injuries. They
were playing without a couple of other defensive starters that
they'll have back, I think the Chiefs defense. But well,
first of all, I should say, Dome team going outdoors
frigid temperatures not ideal, and historically those teams have not
fared well. Although for what it's worth, home teams coming

(40:43):
off of a buy in the divisional round, only forty
two percent against the spread is a favorite of seven
or more seventeen and twenty four against the spread. But
you look at this game, I do think that the
Chiefs defense is overrated and they're gonna be healthy. Jalen
Watson should be back. That helped their secondary. But if
you look all year, I mean, did they play the

(41:04):
Ravens put up four to fifty in Week one? After that,
did they play a single team that was healthy? I
mean Week two, Higgins was out, you know the Falcons
they were that was when Cousins was and they lost
two of the best offensive linemen in the first half
to injury. You know, you had no mcconkee in one
matchup with the Chargers. The other one, their tackles were
out and Herbert was hurt, Tank Dell gets hurt for Houston.

(41:26):
Just mentioned San Francisco lost literally every single skill position
player there before or during the game early on. No
Evans or Godwin for Tampa Bay. I mean, I can
go on and on. So I do think that the
pass defense is a little over Raighton. Now is Houston
the team that's really going to take advantage of that?
Probably not. I mean, their offensive line is not great.

(41:48):
What is the path here for Houston? Because I actually
the Chiefs defense a little overrated. Their pass defense and
their run defense has been really good this year. They've
really improved in that aspect. But their Chiefs offense might
be underrated because, I mean, you have Travis kelce rested.

(42:09):
We always see him up his game. I think he's
gone fourteen straight playoff games with five or more catches,
which is an NFL record, and seventy or more yards
and all of them, which is just insane. But you
got Hollywood brown back Hopkins more assimilated into the offense.
It's helped out Worthy Pacheck go back healthy. Curious to
see what they do at left tackle with Joe Toney.

(42:29):
Do they put him out there it hurts the run game,
or do they put him at left guard where their
run games more effective.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
But this offense could just come out firing and just
the short passes and that you might really miss Jimmy
Ward and Jalen Petrie here. But the Texans do have
a path. The rundy's really good, and they have two
really good corners on the outside, and they have two
elite edge rushers that can cause havoc. So they getting

(42:58):
the Chiefs into passing downs. And then getting to mahomes
and you're gonna have to cause turnovers. I mean, I
go back the last time a fifteen win team lost
in the divisional round. You gotta go back twenty eleven,
the Giants who were nine and seven and ended up
winning the Super Bowl. They they beat the fifteen and

(43:19):
one Packers with a Hall of Fame quarterback. And how
do they do it? Turnovers? For the think four turnovers
and Hakeem Knicks went nuts. I think you have like
one hundred and eighty yards in the first half. That
has to be Nico Collins and you got a four turnovers.
So but it's it's hard to see. I mean, what
you're gonna have to do here is you're not gonna

(43:39):
able to run it with mixing. And the Texans have
increased their early down pass rate from like fifty percent
to like sixty five percent since Week twelve, which is
top three in the league, which I think is smart.
You're gonna have to just I think spread them out.
Your receiving options aren't great, and you're just gonna have
to tell Hope Stroud is on strout has to use
his legs. And I do think if you're looking for

(44:01):
a prop one that I do like Dalton Schultz over
thirty three, thirty four and a half, thirty five and
a half, wherever it is yards over three and a
half catches tight end has gone over forty yards twelve
of seventeen games for Kansas, twelve of sixteen games against
Kansas City excluding the finale. They're one of the worst
defenses in the NFL against tight ends, tight ends ravaging

(44:24):
about six catches for seventy yards per game. They just
put Stover their backup on ir and when Dell went
out against the Chiefs earlier, Schultz ended up having five
catches for forty five yards. So they're gonna all the
attention is gonna be a new of collums. You're gonna
McDuffie following them around. Schultz has got to be the
check down. You got to get the ball to them quick.
You're probably gonna be playing from behind. So I think

(44:46):
it could be a big day for Schultz. I think
it's a bit too many points, but because the Chiefs
just don't play to cover these numbers, right Like, if
you look at the Bills and the Ravens, they're gonna
have all these blowouts. But the Chiefs. They're gonna be
methodical and at the end of the game, they just
they know their defense is good. They're gonna have like
an eight minute drive and then ended up kneeing on

(45:06):
the ball. And so I think it's a bit too
many points. The Texans defense is elite, but it's definitely
scary indoor team going outdoors, frigid temperatures, Kansas City rested
offense could be just it could just look a lot
better and at Stroud behind that offensive line, trying to
deal with Chris Jones could be problematic.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
You know, one thing I played is you can get
Travis Kelce plus one point fifty just to score a touchdown.
I mean last year in the first two playoff games
or I guess the ones against the Bills and the Ravens.
He had two against the Bills and one against the Ravens. Obviously,
the Ravens kind of the ones at the tone. To me,
he's a pretty big tone setter for them. And we

(45:49):
talked about them saving up I mean, of all the
guys they save, obviously Mahomes, they're very dependent on him
to make big plays. Chris Jones definitely throughout the season,
like Travis has shown life over the last month, but really,
this is what he plays for now. Like I think
it's an auto hammer. If you can get plus money
odds on Travis Kelsey scoring a touchdown in any playoff game,

(46:12):
the Chiefs play.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Kelsey props are just for free money, no matter where
the books put the line. Historically, it's insane. Yeah, he
just he's at three weeks too, probably will be look
as fresh and rejuvenated as he has since last playoffs.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Let's let's go to the next game. I mean, it's
kind of crazy that the two games on Saturday. One's
an eight and a half point line, the other is
a nine and a half point line. Pretty crazy swing, right.
This game opened up in Detroit at like five and
a half six points and is now on DraftKings it's
nine and a half. Who knows, I mean, maybe gets
ten by the time they kick off. I feel more

(46:53):
confident in this spot for Detroit than I do in
Kansas City, like you just listed. I mean, they playing
a lot of close games they just happened to win
like ninety nine point nine percent of them. I think
Detroit really showed something in that Week eighteen game against Minnesota.
They're even more well rested. You know, they get the
unique advantage of, like when their coaches interview, like I've

(47:14):
seen Kellen Moore's interviewing, and I don't I mean, it's
just the rules are the rules on Friday afternoon of
a playoff week. Like their guys got to bang them
out during the bye week before they even technically knew
who they were playing. So it doesn't take away anything.
And like I think all the pressures on the Lions
in the NFC, they have home field. They have playoff

(47:34):
experience now, like literally all their guys that hadn't been
like the Jared Goffs coming from other teams got to
play in three playoff games last year. And this Washington
team's an incredible story. And listen, I take them seriously.
They're obviously well coached, they're tough, The coach is good.
You know, Terry mclaurin's a fantastic player. But this feels
like a spot. I mean, I just think Detroit can

(47:56):
go pedal to the medal. And listen, we talked about
rookie quarterbacks and he definitely passed that first test on
the road in Tampa, which I wouldn't exactly say is
the craziest place to play on the road. In their defense,
especially the secondary not great right now. But like, I'm
not trying to diminish anything away from Jade Daniels. The
guy's been a fucking baller this year. I don't know, man,

(48:16):
I don't see how Washington keeps this thing close. I
like Detroit here big yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I gotta give credit Daniels. I had the Bucks last
week and saying he like it came down to Baker Mayfield.
They botched that handoff, and he botched the fun and
he fumbled the snap. Guess who didn't make any of
those mistakes of his Daniels, and he was poised throughout.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm not trying to make an excuse for Baker. I
think for Liam Cohen though, to have assuming that's like
a you know, a quick end around try to get
to the edge. I think you gotta you know, mitigate
your potential disasters there and just run some basic plays
in spots like that like that was that's a little
risky in the second half of a tight game in

(48:59):
the playoffs, is not that's fair.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I also, it's second and one, it's third and one,
and you know, you go backwards. If it's second and one,
why not take a shot if you want to do that,
or just pick up the first und sneak the ball.
I mean, do a touchbush. In three to five years
now everyone will do a touch push. It's unstoppable. And

(49:21):
instead you go backwards and then backwards and then you
kick a field goal and that was a disastrous situation.
So yeah, I thought Kohen got too cute at times,
But it.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Feels like everyone's instituted it. Like the Ravens do it
with Mark Andrews. Were they doing it with I think
they've done it this year with Mariota, who's a little
bigger than Jayden. It's like everyone has their own kind
of version of it. Most people don't have a quarterback
that squats eight thousand pounds like Jalen, but you have
other players on the team.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
They they have other players. They just practice once a week,
practice taking snaps and moving forward. I mean it's not difficult,
and that's a success rate is ninety five percent. How
many times you've see in a game where these teams
are lining up in shotgun at the goal line and
they get stuffed. I mean it's insane. So I mean
to not do it's just malpractice.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
But yeah, that I.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Will say, the line of defense still has major issues.
I mean, yeah, they got to Donald, who's seeing goes,
But we saw what the Rams did at Donald as well.
And it's not like the Rams have a great defense.
You gotta go back. You know, the Bills put up
fifty on Detroit. The I mean if the forty nine
ers should have put up fifty and they weren't at
full strength, they couple bad party throwers. Otherwise there they

(50:29):
probably win that game. Even the Bears, they're dead offense,
you know, put up three under fifty four in yards,
so there's a path of command. The lines really struggle
with mobile quarterbacks, like really bad. They play cover one
ton of man, they blitz. Mclarin's gonna have to have
to have a big day. It's not like they've had
an explosive passing offense. It's not like this is the
Bills of the Ravens. So maybe the lines will be

(50:50):
all right. But historically these playoff games with the high
total this sold was fifty five and a half indoors
go over. I think seven of the last eight with
a total fifty four more have gone over. It would
be over nothing. For me. Fifty five's a key number
and you need fifty five or better. But I don't
see how the how Washington stops Detroit. I mean, their

(51:11):
defense is really bad. They I mean they're twenty seventh
against the run. They play a ton of man golf.
Was the number one quarterback the NFL against man coverage
this year. I don't know how they get stops because
they're not going to get pressure and their secondary is bad.
So what can Daniels do the other what makes this
tough even for the total, but also the side. I

(51:32):
mean you could also get a backdoor here because Washington's
gonna put up some points fourth down bariants. There will
be many fourth downs in this game. Washington has the
number one EPA so expected points at it of any
team over the past twenty years on fourth downs. They're

(51:52):
the most aggressive team on fourth downs this year, only
behind the Lions. So do the Lions and they've gotten
like all of them. Do they keep getting those fourth downs?
If not, it could be a long bed because you're
gonna get the ball back to Detroit and they're gonna score.
So there's a lot of aarans with the fourth down
calls in this game. Someone I do like Sam Laporta
over yardage. I think forty eight and a half last

(52:13):
year's last two playoff games nine catches, nine catches. He's
healthy now and if you look over his past five games,
he's averaging five point eight catches for sixty seven yards
over his first eleven about two point eight for thirty
five healthy, getting targeted. Washington cannot cover tight ends, so
I think Laporta has a big day. The spread I'm

(52:36):
undecided on. I kind of like the over. I think
it's just it could come down to a back door.
It could come down to just one or two fourth
downs that both these teams are probably gonna go there.
Pab There's probably gonna be like six or seven at
least fourth downs in this game. I do feel confident
the lines scoring, though, so maybe like a Lion's team
total over because.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
The line I'm looking right now, you can get basically
even odds anywhere after thirty three and a half points.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I think they should get to thirty four plus.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Would it shock you if they win this game? Or
forty to seventeen or something like that. So if you
wanted to get aggressive, you can get basically plus two
seventy at over you know, thirty nine and a half.
If you wanted to think they could score like forty five,
you can get three to one, four to one. I mean,
I think this could be one of their regular season

(53:27):
games now, once they got to forty and had a
decent lead. I think with like six seven minutes, I
think they would be pretty careful given what's on the
line here. But I could see would shock you at
halftime if they got twenty four to twenty seven inch
points and they're gonna come out fucking firing. I mean,
this is a pretty big moment for Ben Johnson right now.
Obviously the connection of him and Brady and it's kind

(53:49):
of crazy, but it feels like, you know, he might
might go to the Raiders, but just a pretty big
muscle flex of his team's healthy, and he just knows,
like maybe not this individual game, but for them to
win the Super Bowl, like it's gonna be more on
his shoulders than it is like Aaron Glen can only do.
He could blitz all he wants. I mean, their players
are their players right, like offensively, like their margin feerr

(54:10):
just over the next whatever six twelve, eighteen, one hundred
and eighty minutes. Is like they got to score a
lot of points like they got. They can't be punning
often and I expect I mean, this is kind of
the culmination of this guy's career as a coordinator, kind
of a muscle flex like his almost Kyle Shanahan moment

(54:32):
for the Atlanta Falcons with Maddy Ice. Now, obviously they
blew it at the end, which ironically has bled into
his Niner career, but that stretch with with Julio and
Matt Ryan was really kind of got the ball rolling
for the guy, right. Obviously he had momentum, and same
thing with Ben Jonsony. I like the Lions. I think
there's just a lot of pressure on the Lions and

(54:54):
this is I don't know if the game that's really
gonna come to fruition, but I like that there. H Okay,
let's go to Sunday. As you alluded to before, we

(55:18):
hopped on the weather in Philadelphia and I lived there
for a couple of years. A year obviously from that area,
it can be pretty cold, especially in the middle of January,
and that's a pretty big factor here for a team
that plays in the Dome in the Rams. Now, the
Rams obviously went from looking pretty crappy I thought down
the stretch of the season to just playing a pretty

(55:41):
impressive game. And maybe it was. You tell me, is
that just a perfect matchup for the Rams playing Minnesota
that beat them twice this year? Obviously their front is powerful, fast,
and the Minnesota Vikings offensive line is not good. Sam
Darnold had negative momentum coming from the playoff game. And
I don't know where you stand, but one take I

(56:03):
had is, like, listen, Kevin O'Connell has been anointed as
like a McVeigh a Shannon handle of floor. He's got
no big wins in his career. He's basically like a taller, skinnier,
better regular season version of Mike McDaniel. But in that
game specifically, I'm not against passing the ball, but when
your quarterback's really rattled and your offensive line is getting
smoked ten to three in the first half, even when

(56:24):
it's seventeen to three, if you just get a sustainable drive,
maybe get a field goal, you settle everything down maybe
seventeen to six. Then you get a turnover, like you're
not totally out of the game, and he just is
obsessed with passing, itst like this is not gonna work
Kevin and I thought he gets pretty pass happy. That's why.
Big picture, like, if you're just gonna insert JJ McCarthy
next year, a guy that literally came from a college

(56:44):
program that was run heavy, that's never been dependent, it's
gonna be a tough transition conversation for a separate day.
But overall, like maybe that's just a perfect matchup. When
we saw early in the season, like the Eagles just
have a lot more talent than the Rams, because there's
not a person thinking about this today. If you just
pulled every GM in the league, would you want Sirianni

(57:05):
or McVeigh, it'd be thirty two nothing McVeigh, right, including
the Eagles. And then if you said McVeigh, you got
to higher Sirianni, what position would he give Sirianni, He'd
be like his wide receiver coach or tight end coach. Right,
he wouldn't even be his coordinate. But the Eagles are
kind of uniquely suited because like, yeah, it's Sirianna doesn't
really fuck with either. It's like Callen gets to run
that and Vic definitely gets to run that, and that

(57:29):
defensive line. I mean Jalen Carter a pretty big muscle
flex for Howie, like, yeah, we'll take a swing a
little bumpy early on. Now the guy looks like, I
don't know Chris Jones two point zero UNO. So all
their young guys, I mean the two corners Dejeene and
Mitchell are studs. C J. Gardner is bringing them just
a physical element that they clearly lack last year.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
And Jack Jahn is an All Pro but they brought
him into be an edge rusher. He's an All Pro linebacker,
which was a huge position of need that's been massive.
But yeah, they definitely will miss Dean a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Here because Owen Brooks last year when he had to
come in. You know, the forty nine ers lost Drake
Greenlaw in the Super Bowl with the Achilles and throughout
the season when they'd get guys binged up like he
is a major drop off if you have a solid starter,
and the Kobe's kind of come into his own. So
I want to take the rams here. I just think
there might be a pretty big talent gap just player

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for a player, and ultimately the coaching advantage. I don't
know if it can totally rear its head because I
don't really know, like what It's not like Sirianni's telling
Callen or Vic Fangio what to do.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Yeah, I mean Fangio McVeigh that they have some history.
Fangio famously kind of put out the blueprint against McVeigh
in the regular season when.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
He was with the Bears.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
Yeah, Belichick took in the Super Bowl and shut down
the Rams, and then they had their rematch earlier this
year where McVeigh had a good script earlier, but then
Fangio ended up getting the better of him. McVeigh. This
is a top spot for the Rams. I mean you
played Monday night, so you're on short road. Yeah, and
now you're going across the country and you're an indoor

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team going outdoors into weather could be snow, it could
be some wind.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And one of the.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Things that I think contributed that last because I do
think it's a good matchup in a way. Vikings are
really zone heavy blitz. Stafford's been really good against both
this year. But McVeigh rested all of his starters week eighteen.
Didn't care about the seed. He's got an older quarterback,
He's got guys that hadn't been rested since I think
their by was Week five, I think it was most

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important for Stafford.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
He looked fresh indoors.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, I mean, you look kind of like how he
did in that Buffalo game when they went toe to
toe with Buffalo and won a game in the forties.
But we've also seen Stafford outdoors this year. I mean
you want to look Rams outdoors. This is I kind
of like the first half undering this game. And these
are two of the worst first quarter offenses in the NFL.
I mean, the Eagles starts slow every week. See they

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got a fumbled kickoff on the first play the game,
which led to a touchdown. But these are horrible early
first quarter offenses, especially the Rams outdoors on the road.
Here are they're games. They played five games outdoors this year.
They were down ten six at the half against the Bears,
down thirteen to three against the Seahawks, three to three

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against the Niners, and that that was a game with weather,
down nine to six at the Jets, and they were
up fourteen to ten at New England. Cumulative score forty
five thirty two average score. They were down nine point
six to six point four in those games. So yeah,
these are also two top six red zone defenses. Both

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offense has been struggled in the red zone and the
Eagles just yeah, they tore them apart. And they didn't
even have Devonte Smith in that first meeting. You can
say the Rams also didn't have their right tackle.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Aven't seen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
They didn't have Higbee, who I think is going to play.
But the problem for the ram is that the Eagles
offensive line can neutralize is good the Rams pass rush
and the RAMS secondary is not very good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Hurts was last week just rust and the concussion. He's
holding the ball too long. I don't think ag Brown's
fully healthy. And then the weather so win that could
help the Rams, Like, because you're gonna have to sew
up to try to stop the run here, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Why wouldn't you just do that, put nine in the
box and be like, Okay, Jalen, you beat us because
down I would say the majority of the season. He
had a couple moments, but it has been a lot
of struggle. And I do think we can make fun
of the book reading all you want. I think the
AJ Brown Jalen Hurts thing. I mean that you can't
tell me anything else. Besides, there's something weird going on. There,

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like he's not just reading the book to try trying
to calm down so he doesn't attack Jalen because he
thinks he's getting open and fucking Jalen can't see anything
in their passing games. Why would anyone's trying to be
critical of Kellen Moore where it's like, okay, I understand
the charge, or like button heads with McCarthy, like in
this situation, like if your quarterback just is in the
pocket and doesn't see anything and then nothing happens, Like

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that's not always on the coach, especially when you've got
a J. Brown and Davonte Smith of Dallas God he
runner routes. I mean, I'm sorry, Yeah, they have.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
An identity crisis. I don't know exactly what's going on
because the pieces are there. You go Barkley, it's round
for two thousand yards, got her two great receivers, one
of the best offensive lines in the NFL, quarterback who's
performed well at the highest levels. But something's off. I
like the offense at the structure and how they want
to operate, and something is is so off I can't

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put my finger on it. Because a lot of them,
what they do is not Helen Morres. So I don't
know if it's like they can't mesh what Hurts wants
to do, and then Sirianni maybe is also trying to
put his say in and that's why they're like the
script is really bad, Like they can never score early.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
They're lucky that, you know how he's such a GM
they nailed the two corner picks because their dbs were terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
They went and got Barkley.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, and they got Barkley and they got Fangio. That
is really kind of because when you're like last week,
I had a buddy in the league text me, it's like,
if the Packers just played above average game, the Eagles
would have been in major trouble. But fucking Jordan Lovell
like mirror you out there. So it's like when you
just can't I mean that their offense for a team
like you said, that isn't just loaded like high price.

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These are like Lane Johnson's a Hall of Famer. AJ's
been one of the better players of this generation. Sakwon
not gonna be a Hall of Famer because he'll probably
never get the numbers, but is a Hall of Fame talent.
You know, It's like it's pretty crazy how much they struggled.
It's in Green Bay. I mean solid effort by halfleey,
but that's not exactly the eighty five Bears from a
personnel standpoint, is it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
And and their top corner was out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
The linebacker Cooper of fifty six is a monster. That
guy's sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
The Packers also got so they they they kind of
they got. The Eagles got away with it. I mean
their defense is really good, but Jenkins got hurt. Then
pack is the worst backup guards in the NFL, and
they were just kidding every player. They also lost three
of their starting receivers to injury, like it was insane.
The Eagles got away with that offensive performance because number one,

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their defense was really good, and number two the Packers
they were so inept. But part of that was just
all the injuries and then the turnover. You know, on
the first play in the game, the mis field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
The guard plays. I mean, that's as bad as you'll
see in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I mean there was three holding goals within the first
two drives on the same guard, the backup.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Guard, but then he yanked and put the other guy
in the and that that guy flew into the center
it looked like he broke his ankle.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Yeah, that was bad, bad news. So yeah, I like
the first half under. I think this will be lower
scoring early. I do think that, like what the Eagles,
They're going to look back at that first like something
still off with the passing attack. I don't know if
they solve that in a week, but I do think
that they want to. They're gonna come out, they're gonna

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run the ball. The most run heavy team in the
NFL with them in the Packers, and they're gonna want
to wear down the Rams and they're gonna rely on
their defense. And that's what happened in the first meeting.
Barkley had seventy five yards at the half, which is
really good, but he finished with two hundred and fifty.
He went off in the second half. The Rams defensive
line just wore down. So yeah, I think this will

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be lower scoring. I think the Rams will be more
run heavy this week. Cooper Cup's just not the same guy.
Eagles can play more man, they can get pressure without
blitzing Stafford outdoors. It's gonna be tough for them. It's
Nick Nikool is gonna have to go nuts. I don't
know he's probably gonna have that twelve catches or something

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and they're gonna have to hold up in the red zone.
Both these reds, both these defenses are good in the
red zone. But I think I need seven to bet
the Rams given all the situations. But m McVeigh verus
fantasy a great chest match. Curious McVeigh sometimes has these
wrinkles with different formations on what he's gonna see if
Fangi has a wrinkle. But McVeagh has been good in
these spots. He's fifty, He's sixteen and seven against the

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spread on short rest twelve and two his last fourteen games.
There's something when he goes like even across the country
short rest, he he gets his team, he gets the
most out of his team in these situations. But uh yeah,
good good coordinator battle here especially and I've been impressed
with Schule too on the defensive side, but especially Fangio
oversus me today totally. That's that's gonna be a fascinating watch.

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But first half under for me, I could see the
Rams and probably needs seven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I do think obviously there's no topping when you win
a super Bowl, but you know, in this I'm not
trying to take anything away from McVeigh. It's not like,
you know, his super Bowl did come against Zach Taylor,
who I don't know if you know in decades, is
going to be remembered as you know, it's not like
Tom Coughlin, like who'd you beat in the Super Bowl?
Belichick twice? But I do think this would be by far,

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and he's he's got eight playoff victories, I mean, his best.
This would be like his Picasso moment as a coach,
to go on the road and beat Philly, Like you said,
factoring in the short week, factoring in this team wasn't
supposed to be even that good. They win the division, Uh,
they beat the shit out of Minnesota. It would be
it would be a pretty big like crowning achievement early,

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you know, for the in the guy's career, I think,
and again like super Bowl, there's no topping that, but
you do have moments throughout your coaching career, like it's
like it's listen, Kyle Shanahan a terrible year. He has
had some pretty incredible wins in the playoffs, like went
on the road and you know, beat Aaron Rodgers in
a freezing cold game with Jimmy Garoppolo doing nothing, Like

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you have those type moments like how the hell did
you pull that off? You know, Andy's had many in Philly.
He had a ton of those throughout his career.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
When Harbo Harball's had a bunch on the road. It's
just a big deal as it goes on. You know
the thing about Belichick, you remove his six Super Bowls,
he has a ton of those over the years, like
how do you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Beat the Ravens in that game? Like what do you
do to Mike Tomlin in that game? It's just like
those are moments that like, oh, yeah, this guy's a
law Hall of Fame or one of the greats. So
that's the thing that would make me nervous. I'm an
Eagles fan, like everyone acknowledges our team's better, but it's
like this coach clearly is just cooking up some because
everyone's like Kevin O'Connor McVeigh, same guy, No, not exactly,

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like not even close.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Yeah, and and McVeigh he'll he'll deserve now. And maybe
it's just random and not correlated, but if they win
this game in Stafford looks great outdoors, that's probably related
to his decision. That everyone gave him shit for for resting.
Everyone not worried about to see, but he's wanted to
stay healthy and get his older quarterback rest. So he

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looks good here after not looking good down the stretch. Uh,
that'll be another feather in his cap. But yeah, Ram's
just gotta keep this close, keep it low scoring, ugly
stops in the red zone, and then look there's weather.
Jake Elliott's been doesn't look great, look as awful as

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field goals here, you get a turnover, you get hurts
to you know, make a boneheaded throw because I also
don't think a j. Brown might be I think he's
still just not one hundred percent with his knee and
there's just something going on there other than that. But yeah,
excited for that one. But you gotta keep an eye
on the weather. It could be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Okay, let's get to the main event. I have no clue.
I see three scenarios out of the four that are possible.
Ravens Bills win either one in a closer game, just
a good NFL game. The Ravens, like what happened in
the regular season, separate as the game goes on. I
don't see I have a hard time seeing the Bills

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winning a game by like fifteen to twenty points or
just you know, a commanding victory. Like, to me, if
they're gonna win, they're gonna win a close game. I
just can't see like them doing like looking like what
the Rams just look like against Minnesota. You're like, they
just won thirty one to whatever. But this is just fantastic. Obviously,
the storylines speak for themselves. A ton of pressure on

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both teams, both quarterbacks who were just I mean, look
like they fucking mastered the position last weekend. I just
I'm leaning your squad here, and you know the Bills
are an underdog at home, but the Ravens defense is just,
to me, the biggest difference if we just both go.
Offenses are awesome, quarterbacks are dominant. Obviously, Derrick Henry is

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much more famous than James Cook, but I think James
Cook's emergence over this last year and a half, I mean,
he's changed their offense. But is Buffalo good enough on
defense to slow down this freight train? Because I don't know,
you know, you could argue there's when you get an
all time great quarterback, they're just gonna figure it out.
But I do know that Baltimore is just really damn

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good on defense, So yeah, they might not stop every time,
but they're gonna get more stops than Buffalo, So that
that's where I would lean right now. It just feels
like Baltimore's the better team.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Yeah, I make it a coin flip. And the Ravens defense,
since like week eleven, has been number one in the NFL.
They made some changes personnel wise. They put Humphrey in
the slot, kept him there, put what Rdarius Washington back
at safety, got rid of some of the veterans, and
then put Kyle Hamilton back there, and then change how they
communicate Kyle Hamilton's kind of directing everybody after the play

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comes into Roqueline.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
If we just looked at it from a personnel standpoint,
how many of how many of Buffalo's eleven starters on
defense would start for the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Let's see, probably so none of the safeties Taran Johnson, Well,
you've got Humphreys and all pro Tron Johnson, he's their
best defender, he's their slot. I don't even know if
he would start. Probably Christian Bedford, Whrsill Douglas is getting
up there in age Milano's as well, one of the

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the edge rushers Rosa because the Ravens edge rushers are
not great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
That's like, but that's what we're talking about here. There
is a pretty substantial difference of how many guys would
start for you know, one team, like a personnel difference
right now, and that's you know, Buffalo eighth. That's why
I like Baltimore in this game. Is the personnel on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
Yeah, I mean I will say that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Mc dormot's mcdermot's obviously a really really high end defensive.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Coordinator, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Yeah. The one of the I've props wise, I like
Isaiah likely. One of the reason, as I do, is
that the Bills can't cover over the middle of the field.
Their safeties are bad, linebackers aren't great in coverage, and
I'm curious to see how they play this because in
the first meeting, the Ravens run at thirty four times
for two hundred and seventy one yards average eight yards
per carry. Bills and McDermott, by definition, they want to

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play their safeties back prevent explosive plays. The problem is
they're not great at stopping the run. They're gonna They're undersized,
in the defensive line, you're not gonna be able to
stop anyway. So I think they're gonna have to change.
They're gonna to go a little heavier here, and likely
he lined up I think out wide last week without Flowers,

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he lined up out wide twenty eight times, in the
slot fifteen times. I think you can have a huge
day over the middle of the field, and this should
be a competitive game like games script wise, it's not
gonna be like a blout where the Ravens don't just
run it and end the game. But the biggest difference
with these two teams, you have MVP caliber quarterbacks, great offenses,

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unbelievable offenses, good offensive lines. Quarterbacks aren't going to take sacks,
can use their legs, like a lot of similarities in
the offenses. You don't have like star studded receivers, but
you have a lot of nice weapons and they do
a lot of different things in the run gaming.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Because do you think flowers plays in this game are probably.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Not no, And I mean at the first thing, he
only had like one catch for fifteen yards, Like that's
the Bill's corners are pretty good, so he's not even
that He art's a little bit like placks and like
deep shot, but the Ravens are going to just like
do what they did in the first meeting. It's like
throw over the middle of the field, use the tight ends,
use the backs, throw to Justice Hill more. And that's

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a weakness of the Bills. The biggest difference in this
game is that the Ravens have one of the best
run defenses in the NFL, so they can stop the
Bills rushing attack without changing what they do, Whereas the
Bills do not have a good rushing rush defense, so
they're either going to get gashed or they have to
change with the they do. And the Ravens are also

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much stronger up the gut and in the center, in
the middle of the field with their safeties and linebackers
and the Bills. Now, I also I should mention that
Bills fans are probably yelling this summer that in the
first meeting, I mean, Toron Johnson is one of the
best SLocker winners NFL, he didn't play, and then a
couple of their linebackers didn't play. You had like Nicholas
Morrow and Baal and Spector out there. I think Eagles

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just to sign more out of their practice squad inspector
a special teams guy, so they were missing some starters there,
but just schematically, it's not gonna work. So I'm curious
to see how they play it the way that I
think it plays out because the Ravens d's been trending up,
the Bills de's been trending down even though they've been
getting healthier, and they are the second worst defense over
the middle of the field in the NFL this year.

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The just numbers wise, Lamar Jackson is the most profitable
quarterback in NFL history against the spread in the first
half of games. He has insane numbers. There's always like
a little shock to the system. I also think in
this match up, like they're going to be able to
come out and run the ball and sustain drives a
little easier than the Bills, who are probably gonna get

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stuffed on a couple of runs and they might end
up hunting a few more times in the first half.
So Raven's first half moneyline, even though I think it's
a point fi game, makes sense to me. Guess who's
the most profitable quarterback in NFL history in the second
AF against spread, Josh Allen. He's fifteen and two against
the spread this year in the second half, seventy four

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forty four and three against the spread in the second half.
Most profitable quarterback NFL history, second AFRI against spread. So
and that makes sense to me, Like Raven's gonna come out.
They don't really have the change what they do on defense.
They're gonna be able to sustain Drize running it and
additionally touching them back what you said, Or has done
a good job this year in his first year, but
a lot of that was player driven and McDermott still

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a much better defensive code. I trust McDermott to make
better second half adjustment, same thing I told you in
the Super Bowl by I like the Niners first half
last year instead of the full game against the Cheeses.
Like I trust Bags more than Wilkes to make adjustments.
And that's what came of fruition.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
So last week was more personnel issue with the Steelers
or a ski schematic issue with Tomlinn and Austin, Like
why why do they look like they got no shot
right now to stop them where they used to? It
feels like they just completely lost.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Yeah, I it's a good question. I don't really truly
know the answer. I think that like so much of
what they did was driven by the greatness of what
like they would fall off a gate points per game,
and I don't know if Watt's either fallen off or

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he's not. He wasn't healthy, like he just he just
wasn't having the same impact as he normally would in
the run in the past, and I would just a
huge gap. They also had a lot of injuries. But yeah,
I mean they always had Lamar's number, but the last
two times not so much. But Watt's impact just wasn't

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the same this year. I don't know if he was
healthier if we're just seeing a decline.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Because I think the hard, hard part is and that
they've you know, won They at first they took away
Henry or they took away Lamar, and then Henry went off,
and they kind of were like going back between, you know,
which guy do we stop because it's hard to take
him both on some of the like the you know,
the concepts of the zone read or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
You Yeah, they basically said, we're gonna take out, try
to take out Henry and live with Lamar running it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
That'll be interesting. While McDermott does like, because you can't.
I I could live with Lamar run around. I don't
think you can just let Henry go for a buck seventy.
I think you're a lock to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
The Ravens also went multiple backs or multiple tight ends
and ninety percent of snaps. They had fifteen snaps last
week with Josh Jones, and there's a sixth offensive lineman.
And the Bills used their base defense, which is when
there's not an extra d back on the field, less
than any team in the NFL. They just dining the
highest with sixty backs. So like, you're not gonna do

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that a lot. Ravens come out with six offensive linemen
likely and Andrews, you have sixty, it's not gonna work.
And then so yeah, it's tough. The Ravens are like
a unique offense that you know because McDermott in the
defense that he built in Buffalo. It's built to stop

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most you know, modern offense. Most offenses are like spread,
but the Ravens have like a different, unique offense, which
is one of their advantages in that most of the
defenses don't see offenses like them whenever weekend. They're not
built to stop offenses like that, which is why the
Ravens numbers historically they're like this year they were.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Like a top ten offense of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Same and part of that is just defenses aren't built
to stop them and don't see it often. At least
the Bills sawid earlier this year. We'll see what McDermott
does adjustment wise, but that makes sense to me. Ravens
first half and then what happens Bills are down. Let
Josh Allen be Josh Allen make barrel plays, not gonna

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geta not gonna be under a ton of pressure here.
Ravens don't generate like a ton of pressure. He can
use his legs by time, hit some passes down the field,
Josh Allen magic, Ravens get tight on the road. And
then it comes down to, you know, like can can

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the Ravens get a couple first downs in the game
or are they punning it back down? And can he
drive to score? Like That's how I think the game
is gonna play offf like raven Obviously this I could
be well off, Like it could be a fumble in
the kickoff opening kickoff and it changes everything. But I
could see that Ravens come out. They're the it's a
good matchup for them. Bills are gonna have to adjust
and they're not gonna be able to win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Running. Ravens can move the ball, running and throwing in
the middle of the field.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
Josh Allen second half, seen him before, easily do Yeah,
that's how I think the game is gonna play out.
So yeah, I'm probably gonna have some Ravens first half,
some likely props, likely to score a touchdown, likely over
reception yards, and then I might have some Bills second half,
money one if they're trailing at the half.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
But I'll be rooting for the Ravens. I'm a Ravens fan.
Go Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
You can parlay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Basically, if you take Lamar and Josh to each get
a rushing touchdown throughout the game, it's basically five to
one plus four ninety because if you if you like it,
in that situation, Josh doing shit down the stretch down
a little bit, he easily could score. And obviously Lamar's
a threat to score against I mean, score against the
eighty five Bears. I know, I know you got to run,

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but I gotta hit you. On the National Championship it
feels like it's hard to see Ohio State losing. But
the one thing I think you gotta say with Notre Dame,
and I think you saw this in the final four,
is like all the four teams have high end dudes
on defense and the one thing Texas has a really
good defense. I don't know how Notre Dame wouldn't be

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considered in that class. And you could even argue, are
their dbs or their corners better than what Texas was
rolling out? And I do think that I always screw
up his name, but Kittlekowski whoever the defensive coordinator for Texas,
a former boys State guy. Obviously they're really good defensive
coordinator and did a really good job. Obviously Tate Win
that's the third wide receiver. But I think you would live.

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Every team in the country would live you're playing Ohio
State with Okay, we neutralize the other two guys. Tate's
going nuts, like we can live with that. So does
Notre Dame have a shot here?

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
It's gonna be tough. The thing is is that that
I think the two keys of this game one, I
mean Notre Dame. Ohio State has let let up nothing
on the ground. I mean, if you go back, they're
three playoff games. They're their number one rated rush defense
in college football. They played Tennessee, Oregon in Texas, three

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really good, really good rushing attacks, two of the best
offensive lines in Oregon and Texas. They had ninety six
rushes for one hundred and eighty seven yards, less than
two yards per carry if you remove the sacks, just
three point eight yards per carry. And by the way,
Ohio State had sixteen sacks for one hundred and eighteen yards.
That's important because they can get pressure without blitzing. And

(01:23:19):
Riley Leonard's been really bad under pressure when he's not
being blitzed outside the top one hundred this year, So
I don't know Notre Dame is gonna be able to
run it here and right Leond's gonna be under pressure
like the Ohio State defensive ends, and the way to
be Ohio State is like their corners are kind of
their weakness relatively speaking, but the Penn State, I mean,
Notre Dame doesn't have great receivers, so it's gonna it's

(01:23:42):
hard for me to see Notre Dame moving the ball
here at all. I mean, their offense was already limited.
You go back to the Georgia game. They scored on
a you know, a kick return and then a fall
ball and they're playing a backup quarterback. You know, Penn State.
They're down. Their offense can't do anything and you know,
they found a way but get a turn over late.
But their offense is not that dynamic, especially if they

(01:24:04):
can't run the ball. And then on the other side
of the ball. Notre Dame plays more man coverage than
any team in college football. Now, they were great in it,
and their corners were great all year and they even
lost Morris and their arguably their top corner earlier this season.
But you can't play man I mean they did it
last year, but they I mean, you don't. You don't

(01:24:25):
play exclusively manner zone. Yeah, but they are they going
to change it up because Texas played zone and they said,
you know, we're gonna put our attention on Jeremiah Smith.
We're not gonna let you beat us deep. We're gonna
make you drive the field and then make mistakes. And
that that's what happened, and they were in the game.
They could score at the goal line. The other thing is,
obviously goal line on red zone defense is historically good.
So even when Notre Dame gets down there, how are

(01:24:47):
they punching it in the end zone?

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
I do also think that if you look Notre Dame,
they they didn't play many elite receivers this year. I
mean they're the passing offense that they fail to. Georgia
was their backup quarterback who warned Georgia scares here on
the outside. I mean Nady Arian Smith goes the NFL.
He had one catch for sixty seven yards. Yeah, you
go back Penn State, the receivers are all terrible. It

(01:25:13):
was Tyler Warren who had six catches for seventy five yards.
But you go back the only two games where they
played like elite receivers. USC mkayle Lemon had nine catches
for one hundred and thirty three yards. USC had four
players with a catch over twenty yards. They had almost
six hundred yards of offense in that game. And they
recently made a quarterback jeans they were going with the backup.
And then Louisville who had a really good offense to

(01:25:35):
Corey Brooks, who will play in the NFL. He had
five for seventy one and two touchdowns. Colin Lacy at
five for seventy one. Louisville three players with the reception
over twenty yards, So that's it. Like Sir Rott for
Indiana's good he at four for seventy. Other than that,
they played like service academies backup quarterback. So this is
scary going up against Ohio State if you're gonna play

(01:25:56):
man really good. Al Gold's a really good defensive coordinator.
What does he do? He's got to mix it up.
I do think eg Buka is a worth a look
props wise, he's over nineteen and a half receiving yards
over nineteen and a half longest reception. I should say
he's done that nine to fifteen games this year. And
I think there's gonna be attention on jeremih Smith. He's

(01:26:17):
good against man Ori zone. They're gonna have him running crossers.
And the way you beat this Notre Dame cover one
when they are man you gotta take deep shots, and
I think they're gonna take them here and against Notre
Dame the past two years when Marvion Harrison was there,
he had seven for ninety six and nine for ninety
and if you want a long shot, egg booka over

(01:26:37):
ninety yards all yards over ninety yards plus. I don't know,
it'll be probably the plus three fifty plus four hundred.
He's hit ninety last two years against Notre Dame. I
think he's gonna get a lot of looks here, and
he needs ninety three to set the all time school record.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
And this is his last game.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
So even if they're up big, yeah, a couple more.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Times they're Mike Evans moment for him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
Ohio State also changed their running scheme after their offensive
line injuries, and they run more gap runs. Notre Dame
struggles there, So it's gonna be really tough for Notre Dame.
I'm curious to see how much man they run and
what they do, what al Golden does the path for
Notre Dame. You gotta get pressure. The al gohing is
gonna send pressure. You gotta Howard can struggle under pressure
and make a mistake. You gotta get urner. This is

(01:27:24):
Notre Dame is done all year. It's what they've done
all plus get turnovers. They've been They're really well coached.
Marcus Streaming's got to be aggressive in the right times,
you know, maybe like a crazy special teams play, you
got a steal possession. And then in the middle eight.
Notre Dame has been the best team in college fooball
in the middle eight, and we saw it all their
playoff games. The final four minutes of the first half,

(01:27:44):
first four minutes for the second half. I mean, you
saw there was a minute and a half stretch against
Georgia that basically decided the game.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Pot swing against Penn State.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
Ten point swing against Penn State. So like they got
a steel possession there. So it's gonna come down to
their D scheme. And but it's just hard for me
to see how Notre Dame moves the ball. Notre Dame
prop by like a Nias Williams their back, who's getting
a ton of run. It's good in pass projection. They're
gonna they got They could throw them Texas through to
their backs all day last weekend. I think he can

(01:28:14):
go over his reception yards, but it's probably gonna be
Ohio State. It's it kind of reminds me of This
game is very similar to Chiefs Texans in that just
the talent and the matchup isn't great, but you have

(01:28:35):
a good defense and you're gonna have to steal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
You're gonna have to steal some things.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
You're gonna have to be aggressive on fourth downs, and
then you're gonna have to create terms with your defense.
So but it's just gonna be hard for them to
play Man and Will Howard's been the number two quarterback
in coat football against man all game the way that
they have been because this is a different animal. Penn
States receivers are horrendous. They all even transfer, they transferred,
all of them transfer after the game. They were not

(01:29:02):
good all year. Georgia backup quarterback didn't have great receivers,
you know, in Indiana. This is a different animal. So yeah,
I fear that Ohio States is going to hit a
bunch of deep shots because the receivers are so good.
And then Notre Dame playing from behind against Ohio State,
it's probably not gonna end well because you're just not

(01:29:23):
You can't the I don't think they're gonna be able
to run on Ohio States. So yeah, it's got to
be a Freeman and Al golden master class and they're
gonna have to get some mistakes from Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Good take there, Stucky, have a good weekend, make some money,
and look forward. To watching your Ravens play on the
heavyweight matchup on Sunday night. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
Only we only got one good game last weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Let's get some. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
I think we got three out of four. I feel
I feel some good vibes coming.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Yeah. Same, I think we'll get some good games.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
We got a funny feeling that textans keep it close.
All right, I could be well, but I think the
other two should be competitive, and I think Bill's Ravens
should be a classic. So uh yeah, three good days
of football. Enjoy and I'll talk to you next week,
my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Okay, see you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
The volume

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
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