January 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Colin looks at the divisional round of the NFL playoffs with a huge match up between Lamar Jackson & Josh Allen telling you which star quarterback has more to gain with a signature win
He gives his thoughts on the weird relationship between Eagles HC Nick Sirianni and QB Jalen Hurts
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Here we go. It is a Friday. We are live
in Los Angeles, and it is The Herd. Wherever you
may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for
making us part of your day. I'm a blazing four
in one hour. Jmax got his picks. Actually, I think
it gets easier as you get to the playoffs because
you have the best quarterbacks and you kind of know
what you're going to get in the performances. So here
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we go on a Friday, Jamax, I want to start
the show talking Phil's Ravens and then Rams Eagles because
the Eagles feel combustible but yet to keep winning. Let's
start with Baltimore and it sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I thought you would start with your haircut. That's like
you got a little streatball.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Bolas. Hygien is essential for our show, especially during the
football season. So let's start with this. It is Bill's Ravens,
which has a chance to be the best football game
of the last five six months. But it's also a
game about Josh Allen and about Lamar Jackson, and it
really is, and it may be unfair, but it's a
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quarterback dominated league, and so I think the game means
more to Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen's actually been very good
in the postseason. Infect his passer rating in the playoffs
is one of the best ever. He just lost to
Joe Burrow once and Mahomes three times. But Lamar Jackson
often feels like a different player in the playoffs. It's
like Derek Jeter in baseball. You got the same Jeter
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regular season or the World Series. That's Josh Allen Lamar.
You look at the numbers, you don't. He's closer to
Barry Bonds, the Great Barry Bonds. First twenty eight playoff games,
he had one home run. Where did the power go?
Lamar looks tight, he looks anxious, he admits it, and
you're left scratching your head. And that's why I believe
this game means a lot more for Lamar Jackson. If
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he plays well and loses, that's okay, because we all
get how good Josh Allen is, and we all get
how good Buffalo is. I mean, he loses in overtime
and puts up three hundred total yards, we're fine. But
if Lamar delivers another clunker, and he's had a few
as a playoff quarterback, not all, but if he delivers
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a clunker, it's going to start to define him and
how he plays matters. Peyton Manning, for the longest time,
was known as the second best Manning in the playoffs.
It was Eli quirky, Eli that was cool under pressure,
could win on the road whether it didn't matter, and
it wasn't until Brady. If you go back to I
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was looking this morning, Manning was three and six. He
started the playoffs three and six, that was his playoff record,
and he was zero to two against Brady and he
was awful in the games against Brady. It was Eli
that was cool under pressure. So that Denver stay for
Peyton Manning really really helped his legacy and now we
consider him. Oh, Peyton Manning was great all the time.
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Like Lamar, he'd had some decent early playoff games, but
until he won that first Super Bowl. We were looking
around going, oh, he gets a little tight. He's a
teeth clencher. And that's how we feel about Lamar. What
Lamar doesn't want to be and I don't think he
is at all. But you don't want to be James
Harden where everybody kind of rolls their eyes. You're great
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in the games that don't count, but you're shrinking the
big ones. So I think the pressure is absolutely on
Lamar Jackson. Now here is the good news. You have
to dig a little bit deeper on Lamar Jackson. And
this is why a lot of the odds makers think
Baltimore should be the favorite. Is Lamar's first four playoff games,
it was like early Peyton Manning. He wasn't very good
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passera at sixty eight, but he has gotten better in
his last three playoff games. So Sean McDermott this week
talked about the battle not only Bill's Ravens, but about
Josh against Lamar.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I see the comparison or the parallels they've probably in there,
though in terms of the uniqueness of both players right
and not short changing either of them. I mean they're
they're the best, They're the top shelf in the NFL
those two.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it should also be noted whereas Joe Burrow, some
would argue, is equally talented, his franchise had to sell
off naming rights for the stadium for them to be
able to afford Joe Burrow's contract. You can't take the
Bengals seriously because of upstairs. The Ravens are well run,
the Bills are well run. So both franchises have gotten
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these remarkable all time unique talents, really really good players.
Now I think Buffalo's got more good players than Baltimore.
So I like the Bills at home this week. But
what's really great about this game, It's not just great quarterbacks.
It's great organizations, much like Mahomes in Kansas City. And
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I think we have a chance to see the best
football game in the last six months. So I want
to talk now about the Philadelphia Eagles, who I think
will beat and host the Rams. So I just tried.
They're a jigsaw puzzle to me, I can't. I know
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the Eagles are well run, but it is fascinating. I
saw another story this morning and it said Jalen Hurts
and Nick Sirianna's Sirianni's relationship is finally in a better
place as they get ready for the playoff run here
and I thought to myself, I'd hope. So they won
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twelve of the last thirteen games. They're forty eight and
fourteen all time together. How can they not get along?
It would be like one of those Hollywood divorces. You're like,
the people are both beautiful, their kids are beautiful, they're rich,
they're pampered that live in Beverly Hills. Can't you guys
get along? A lot of couples with much less are
doing much better. And what's interesting about it is, you
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know the stories not coming from Jalen Hurts, All these
stories about their relationship, right, because Jalen Hurts went to
the Nick Saban School in Alabama of Never Say Anything,
and he's also a very mature adult, quiet reserve kid.
So the leaks must be coming from Siriani. I don't
think they are. Why because Nick Sirianni looks bad in
this How the hell can you not get along with him?
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Everybody likes Jalen Hurts. Where are the stories coming from?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
So?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think it's fascinating. And that's the first part. Who's
leaking it? The second part is that I keep thinking
about this is if you're struggling to get along now
and you're winning five of six games year together, what
happens when you start losing? I mean, and this is
what's interesting. Last year, remember down the stretch they were awful.
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If you take that stretch last year when they were awful,
lost six to seven games, they're forty eight and fourteen together.
If you have the playoffs, that's that forty eight and
fourteen record. I'm taking out that bad stretch, so it's
almost all been rainbows, harmony, pots of gold. But maybe
it was that little stumble last year, that little stumble
at the end, that six ' seven take that out there,
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forty eight and fourteen that caused all this, that they're
really not built for each other. Or maybe it's this
and I was thinking about that. Every time I see
a story on this, I think about this. There are families,
and I've known people like this. They're always arguing, and
yet they last forever and they're incredibly close. You see
this all the time. Sirianni is young, and he's emotional,
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and isn't Philadelphia one of our more emotional cities. Siriani
is come comtive, so is Philadelphia. Nick Sirianni always looks
tired and ornery. Philadelphia is kind of tired and ornery.
Doug Peterson was too chill for Philadelphia. Chip Kelly, you
could argue, was too emotionally remote for Philadelphia. And there's
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an argument that Nick Ceriani is perhaps perfect combative, feisty,
looks tired, and Big Dom has his arms around all
of it. We have all known a family like this.
There's a comedian out there, mana Caasko, Sebastian Minikawsko. He
jokes about his family. He's like, we fought, We argued,
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Dad couldn't give you a compliment. At some point, I
wouldn't let him come to my shows. And the guy's
one of the biggest rock stars in comedy in the
United States today. And I thought about that comedian because
I went to see him in Chicago about six seven
weeks ago, and he was hysterical and a lot of
it's about his family, and I'm like, this sounds like
a brutal childhood. Yet they're incredibly close, and I'm like,
maybe this is Sirianni. The Philly fans Big Dom Jalen
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Hurts the loud sports talk radio. It's the family that
screams and yells and argues even at Thanksgiving, even on vacation,
and that they love each other. It wouldn't work for me,
but it works for them. I like Philadelphia and Buffalo.
Blazing five picks top of next hour. J Mac, you
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know it's same four teams in the final four in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We talk about this all the time. Week to week.
The NFL is really difficult to predict, especially when you
talk about betting lines. But on a macro level, it's
very easy to figure out. You start looking around. It's
it's Lamar, it's Josh, it's Hurts, it's golf, it's Stafford,
it's c J. Stroud. You know the only great quarterback
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who didn't make the playoffs Joe Burrow, whose organization always
like they're frugal and pinsion pennies and the little backwards.
But I got blazing five today. You got your picks.
I think we're going to be treated like college football.
The longer the playoffs went, the better the games went.
So I think we're going to be treated to that.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
So you don't think we're getting three blowouts. I mean,
how many blow off we get last week in like five.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I even think Commanders if they get the opening kick
and score and get the Lions a little bit on
their heels, then I think it's interesting. Now if Detroit wins,
it takes it down seven to nothing and starts marching
with confidence rested, and by they're getting defensive players back,
that game I feel could get ugly.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
For what it's worth, that line just hit ten. Detroit
is favored by ten. Yeah that's the one I spread
this week. Yeah, you know me and big spreads. I
stayed away that in that in the Blazing five, I
could see Detroit rolling them, but I could also see Commanders.
Jayden Daniels is hard to figure out. They stay in games.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
The Commanders stay in games when they get out played,
and it's almost a talent that you look up and
you're like, Washington doesn't have as good a players. They're
getting outplayed. One of the only games I saw all
year where I thought it was a stinker for them.
I mean, they really didn't show up was New Orleans
and they still ended up. Remember that game, they go
down to New Orleans, they don't play very well at all,
and they're the better team there, and they still figure
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out a way to win the game. They figured out
ways to win games the Bears game in which you
think they're outplayed.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, hanging around.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Just hang around and let Jayden Daniels take you to
the Promised Land.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeap.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
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Speaker 1 (11:35):
Came man because I'm prone to do, I'm driving into
the show today and I had an idea I have
said for the Chicago Bears, I think it is too
big of a lift to hire somebody that's never been
a head coach. So I would go with Mike McCarthy.
But there is a story out can the Chicago Bears
resist Marcus Freeman? Now? Jordan Schultz on our show yesterday
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said it to coach Race Ben Johnson, Mike McCarthy. There's
a lot of politics and dysfunction here. I couldn't go
with a young coordinator, but Marcus Freeman's not. He's a
head coach. And if he beats Ohio State Monday with
one five star athlete, that's that's fewer than Kentucky football
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has and that's a basketball school. One five star athlete.
Ohio State has fourteen. Do you offer him the gig?
He's the closest thing I've seen to Sean McVay. And
when Stan Cronke interviewed Sean McVay, la Rams owner, he
would not let him on the plane before he signed.
And if you've ever been around Sean McVay or watched
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him at the podium, bruh, he's different. So they brought
him in for an interview and said, yeah, we're gonna
change plans. We're hiring him. And I thought watching Marcus Freeman,
and this is how the Rams thought. If you don't
hire McVeigh, you have to coach against him for the
next fifteen years. Let's just give him the job. Little
risky thirty years old, and Marcus Freeman has a chance
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to be the youngest coach to ever win a national championship.
And I look at him and I think, if you
meet him and you see his energy. McVeigh went to
a Rams team that was worse than the Bears. They
were four and twelve and the worst offense in the league,
and their quarterback Goff went oh to seven. The next year,
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the Rams won eleven games and had the number one
ranked offense. Now I'm not saying Marcus Freeman's a quarterback expert,
but Riley Leonard's a lot better at Notre Dame than
he was at Duke. And this team should not be
playing for a national championship. And my point is some
people are simply different. He also does it the right way.
He's slow patient. So Sean McVay has been with the
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Rams about as long as I've lived in LA and
he's winning double digits virtually every year, even in rebuild.
As long as his quarterback is upright and healthy, he wins.
I don't know if Marcus Freeman even has to beat
Ohio State, but one of the things that's pretty clear
having watched McVeigh here, there are coaches that are simply different.
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And I said this a couple of weeks ago when
I watched Marcus Freeman on television. I watch him at
the podium, I watch him on the sidelines, and I
watched the staff he built at Notre Dame, which is
arguably the best staff in college football. That is one
of the secret sauces to McVeigh. He runs through staff,
doesn't matter, doesn't matter who's OC or DC. He shouldn't
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be as good about DC's as he is, And yet
McVeigh keeps hiring these dcs who keep getting jobs, and
offensive coordinators keep getting jobs Kevin O'Connell, Zach Taylor, and
they end up in the playoffs. I mean, Belichick's tree
can't win games. Mcveigh's are getting to Super Bowls and
turning a Minnesota Vikings team into a fourteen win team.
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So I think with Marcus Freeman, I'm gonna watch this
game Monday. You know, he may just be different. I
think the Bears is too big of a gig to
give it to somebody that's never had a head coaching job.
Notre Dame is not your typical college coaching job. It
is somewhere between college and the pros. It's not the pros,
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but the pressure, the alumni, the religious umbrella, the academic difficulty.
It is not It is not a typical college job.
Another reason I can't wait for Ohio State and Notre
Day Monday. Bears will probably hire somebody before the game.
I think I sit and wait for the game. I
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think I just sit and wait for the game. I
just want to see what it looks like Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No, no, no, this is the herd.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Lie urban Meyer came in our show. In fact, we
have a buy. I want to play this by urban
Meyer is not easily impressed. This was urban Meyer on
our show was It earlier this week? Talking about Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
His maturity of a coach is I don't want to
say it's unprecedented, but it's phenomenal what he's done. They
got something very special in that locker room, their leadership,
their toughness to refuse to lose. He's always had that
reputation of doing things the right way, of being unselfish
and extremely hard work, and I think that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He was that as a player, he's that as a coach,
and it bleeds into his team. There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm one hundred percent with you. I think be great
in Chicago. Let's start with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Collins So he was introduced as UNC's next head coach
many moons ago.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, moons ago.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
He's been on the recruiting trail and.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Putting his staff together, but reportedly he's operating without a
signed contract.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This report adds.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
There could be a legal gray area about how much,
if any, of a buyout would be if he were.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Decided to return to the NFL. A lot of people
just keep pushing this Belichick out.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
But you know, it's funny about this because college football
and college recruiting can get a little sketch. You don't
think Bill's let out there. No, this is all his
rivals saying, hey, this guy's flying the coop. He's going now.
I thought if Buffalo or the Eagles lost in the
first round, he'd get a phone call. Since they both
won and convincingly, I think Bill's staying at Carolina for
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a year. But when a story you and I talk
about this, when a story gets out, it's not just
the story, it's why did it get out and who
leaked it. This feels like somebody, an agent for somebody
or something is like putting it out there that. Yeah,
when Bill comes on your recruiting door and knock knock,
knock knock, just knows contract.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Isn't something dirty. It's pretty dirty.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Yeah, whoever doing this, maybe Dabo Sweeney who knows was
planting these stories.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I think we could just close the door. He's not coming,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He's going to coach at Carolina this year and you
think maybe next Come on.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I think it's just a fun storyline, like Dianna and
the Cowboys, who we'll get to.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Actually move on to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, they're in a coach exert.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Jerry Jones and Dion are being linked so hot and
heavy that Cowboys head coaching odds are out and Dion
is number one. Put in, put stock into this, whatever
you will. The number one's one. Robert Salah in second.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That is comical. Oh my god, get out of here now. Listen.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You can't get down any real money. You can't put
six figures on this, nothing you would. Kellen Moore is third,
Ben Johnson his fourth, Cliff King for his fifth.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Come These are the odds that are out.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Steve Starkeshan is is others, and so as is Witten,
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, you know, this was Jerry being patient. Jerry
being patient. You know, Jerry has that saying whenever I
try to get a bargain, that's exactly what I get.
So it's not a money thing. Everybody keeps talking about
the buyout. I think Bart I think, what if, what
if Jerry's doing this? Let me just throw this at you, okay,
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is that Jerry wants to hire Deon Sanders and he'll
be able to use the excuse, well, I gave it
great thought, and he's going to let other guys get
hired and say, you know, we looked at them, but
they got hired by somebody else. And that Jerry his
primary focus from the very beginning has been Deon Sanders
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because the team now is boring and Dion's not. And
that Jerry, how did this get out? Who leaked the story?
I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out. That part of
doing a three hour show is throwing out conjecture. Fun
is that Jerry really wants to hire Deon and it's
okay to hire him. Let's let Rabel's the best candidate
gets hired somewhere else. Rabel would want to say in personnel,
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and Jerry didn't want to give that up. Jerry didn't
want to give that up, so he did. And by
the way, you know, there's other candidates here who have
multiple offers from multiple teams. They'll want more power. Jerry
doesn't like relinquishing it. That Dion would come Dallas and
wouldn't ask for a lot of things other than good
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salary get him out of Colorado. Maybe be a bit
more grateful, because nobody, nobody talked about d On coaching
in the NFL seriously until four days ago.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well, wait a minute, he talked about that. We knew
that Shador was going and.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
We thought he would file, but he os downplayed college.
He loves college, he loves the kids and the life
journey and offering wisdom.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, you're Maybe you're right,
Like Jerry went out nixes and oh this is about
butts in the seat and eyeballs on the screen.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And Jerry, this is Jerry's number one candidate and he's
letting it come out slowly. But it's really who we want.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So the Cowboys aren't even a top ten team.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
If they land Deon Sanders' coach, they're probably gonna get
three or four games in the Fox four pm window,
a bunch.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Of Sunday night football.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
There's no question they're gonna be talked about on this show,
no question, assuming we're here. Every other show out there,
they're gonna just be talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The merchandise sales. Remember fans can belly ache. I don't
love my team. This sting the minute you hired Dion
merchandise sales through the roofs like team number to O.
Everybody hated too until he was on your team, and
then he loved win.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He could take you places.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
He's a really town forty nine ers, he won Eagles
got to the super Bowl, like he's a really good player.
I mean, this could be like a spectacular combustible two
years now.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Because you say Dion's not gonna want any power.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
By the way, He's not gonna just take Jerry Jones
making all these comments in the media, the way McCarthy's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Dion's gonna push back. He's not gonna just take it.
Is he deon Sanders interesting? You know I did an
interview with him once.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Within three questions, he hung up the phone on me
because I started asking, like, you know, interesting stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He's like, I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Click Like he's not gonna take Jerry Jones blasting him
and the team when they get run out of the
building thirty to ten.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know, Dion's gonna push back.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
So maybe there is something there by the way Robert
Salah to the Cowboys. Do you know what his record
with the Jets is seventy four games under five hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everybody's record of the Jets is poor. You go ask
Sam Darnold, leave New York, beautiful things happen? Is that
is selling what?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hey? Donald loved New York.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I can do the same.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Final story is the Packers early exit from the playoffs
lost in Philly. We know Matt Lafleur wants Jordan Love
to be more of a vocal leader, but GM Brian
Gutakutzt wants there to be more urgency from the team
going forward.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
The thing that's that on my mind, I think as
we concluded this season is we need we need to
continue to ramp up our sense of urgency. We got
a bunch of good, good guys in that locker room.
Get a bunch of talented guys in that locker room,
and yeah, I think it's time that we start competing
for championships, right, And I think they're ready. I think,
like I said, I think they are wired right. I
think that group is is the kind of guys that
can do that. But at the end of the day,
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you gotta go do it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't even know what that means, Colin ramp up.
Were they not urgent?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well, I think there's a sense that Green Bay is
slowly building and baking this young team, and he wants
to create a sense of we're good enough to win, now,
let's play better. They've been very and this is one
of the strainths of Green Bay with their development of players.
This has always been a core strength of the organization.
Their patient, they draft, they developed, they sit people. And
he's saying, okay, enough because Detroit's good, Minnesota's here in
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Chicago's getting good fast too if they get the right code.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Okay, But so is this about Jordan Love?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Is this what this is?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Because he's the only reason they didn't have a great season? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, no, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
What he didn't play great this year, Colin.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He I don't want to say he regressed, but he
did not continue that upward trajectory we thought he had.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, he was not hurt, and Malik Willis won them games.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Like, yeah, I think it's fair to say that. I
not that I've cooled on Jordan Love. I thought at
the end of last year he would move into an
elite top six in the league, and now I think
he's top ten. I think he's like ten Jordan Love. Yeah,
ten to eleven.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, So he's not better than any of the eight
quarterbacks in the in the playoffs down right?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, I think so that. I thought he was better
than C. J. Stroud for sure, and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think he's better in the pocket than Jalen Hurts.
He's much more athletic than C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Hold on, Jordan Love is better than c. J. Stroud
right now, you think? And Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
When C. J.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Stroud gets beat by twenty one points this weekend, that's
not on stroud Man beat.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
The Chiefs are favorites.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
So Burrow also, Okay, brock Purty obviously better than Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
We know that.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Wait, you're not agreeing with me on the No, no, no,
I still I'm not selling my Joline Loves. Okay, alright,
you don't have to have a quarterback ranking list in
the off season. I don't think he's stopped ten right now,
not based on this season, Colin.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I do J mckle the news, Well, that's the
news and thanks for stopping by. Speaking of coaches. So
the staff this morning gave me this. There's a pull out.
Was this from the Dallas Morning News or something? They
they they pulled Dallas Cowboy fans, it's pretty interesting. Do
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you approve of the way Jerry Jones handled the decision?
It's from the Athletic and seventy eight percent of Dallas
fans said no, we don't approve. And then the next
question was the decision has me feeling like dot dot dot,
and a fifty four percent said the franchise is lost
and there's absolutely no reason for hope. Now that's a
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little bit dire, But you know, I don't know what
would happen if Deon Sanders got hired. He was you know,
he made a lot of headlines, but you know he
was thirteen and twelve, and you know he was kind
of like a five hundred college coach with a great
quarterback and maybe the best player. So here's if you
think Dion Sanders would work, here's a reason it could
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because we just don't know. Like Mike McDaniels, I thought
it could work. I liked it. Mike McDaniel's Miami Today
feel Finesse, Nick serianni Ah Guy's press conference too combative, immature.
He's crushing Dan Campbell, Bill Parcells loved him. I think
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Parcells is brilliant, but I was like, I don't know,
talking about Biten Kneecaps. He's crushing it. Doug Peterson totally chill.
I thought he was perfect in Jacksonville. Doesn't work Shane
Steichen in Indianapolis. I thought that was an absolute great hire.
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I'm reading stories about the locker room's a mess. So
here's what the truth is about hiring a coach outside
of Harbaugh. Andy Reid the Kansas City, Sean Payton, Vrabel
to New England. Anytime Harbaugh's hired, there's stuff. We all know.
Those are the lamps in our job. We know that's
gonna work. But mostly it comes down to who's your quarterback.
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And if Dak Prescott is your quarterback, I think it's
reasonable assume whoever gets the Dallas Cowboys job wins ten
or eleven games. Again, we all knew Andy Reid the
Kansas City that was gonna work. Rable to New England. Yeah,
they're gonna be better than Jared Mayo New England. Harbaugh
to the Chargers. I didn't know if they'd make the playoffs.
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But you know, we said on the air, that's ten
eleven wins. He'll get it straight. But when we don't know,
what we didn't know was Sean McVay. Was this Bears
hire Marcus Freeman, you don't know. I think he could
be magical. But if you look at Dak's career, Dak
lendsay about ten games, and so if you start looking
at who's gonna work and who's not gonna work, I mean,
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I bot about five hundred and most of my hits
have been with Harbaugh of the Chargers, Peyton to the Broncos,
Andy Reid, Kansas City, you know the oddvious stuff. I
thought dan Quinn with Washington would work with Cliff Kingsbury.
I thought that would be very very good. Plus they'd
bought himed out, so it had to be better. But
the reason you cowboy fans are in this, we'll never
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get solved. I don't think you're going to hoist a
trophy with this roster for several years and what you're
paying Dak. But I think unless they hire somebody I've
never heard of, my guess is they'll be Okay, Fian'll
be fine. They won't finish in fourth place. That I
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Red Car out Cross. Give if you can so. I
thought that these stories were interesting and kind of predictable,
but everybody pushed back when the nil hit College football,
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And if you're listening or watching my show and you
don't follow college football, basically college football players now often
make more than pro players, especially quarterbacks. And there's a
story out where Carson Beck, who played at Georgia could
have gone pro, declared for the draft and said, now
I'm gonna do a U turn and go to the
U and he's going to make ten million dollars playing
college football. Quinn Yours, by the way, turned down eight
(30:31):
million dollars in college football to transfer. And so this
is the opposite. This actually helps college football and pro football,
not just so.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Opposite of the basketball culture in America, which I think
is largely broken. It's all about, hey, just go for
the money, whatever league international leave college. So what college
football now is going to get is older, mature players,
not only adding familiarity and stability. Think about this. Stuart
Mandel covers college football. He had this tweet. In the
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last couple of days, seventy players have declared for the draft.
That is half the number of six years ago. So
college football is getting older, more mature, better players, staying longer,
higher quality. Right, you watch college basketball, the best players
are all like nineteen one and done boom. See him
head off to a lousy team and they're anonymous sitting
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on the bench or of a rotational guy, or maybe
they start for a really bad team, and you have
no emotional connection to the players. And that's why I
think the basketball culture in America part We were talking
about this in the hallway this morning as we were
walking to the show with Ryan the producer. I was saying,
you know, you just don't have any connection to these
college guys. SGA stays one year, two years at Kentucky,
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You're like, oh, that kid's interesting. Boom he's gone. And
then he's part of the OKC rebuild and last night
you know he's a great, great player, just a dominant score.
But you don't have as much of a connection unless
you're a die hard fan. And so this also, I
think what's happening in college football helps the NFL general
managers because now I get more tape on players in
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a different environment. You know, this is why the COVID
quarterback class was so awful. I mean, he had very
little tape on Zach Wilson. His pro day was what
people were falling in love with Trey Lance. He had
three pieces of fuzzy video. But now with guys staying
in school a year longer, a more great players staying
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in college football. That helps the opposite of college basketball,
and it gives NFL general managers more video and film
and reps to work with. I mean and a prime
example of why college football is so much more popular
than college basketball. College basketball now is all about the tournament.
Go look at the draft last year, the NFL Draft
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and the college basketball draft.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
J Mack is one of the seven people on earth
that knew every one of these basketball players coming out
of Lithuania. But if you look at if you look
at the NFL Draft, it was when we watched Caleb
Williams at high profile USC. Now, I saw Jaden Daniel's
number two pick at Arizona State. Most of you saw
him at LSU. Drake may was at Carolina. We didn't
see a ton of him, But Marvin Harrison Ohio State,
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Joe Alt Notre Dame, Molite neighbors LSU, Michael Pennock's Washington, Roma, Dunzay,
those teams were in big national TV games. JJ McCarthy Michigan,
Bo Nicks at Oregon, and the offensive tackle from Penn State.
So I'm watching those guys for years and years. I'm
familiar with them. So the college football is now getting
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more of this, more of these players in the blue
on the left. Sorry, radio audience, college basketball and basketball's
culture does a diss service. I had Adam Silver on
NBA Commission this week and I said that, I said,
why do you guys marginalize college basketball? That's how I
learned who Zion Williamson is or Cooper Flagg at Duke
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if he goes to the G League. I don't know
who he is. I have no connection to him. So
I think college football this is really good news for
college football that you will find every year going forward
there'll be twenty quarterbacks or left tackles, or edge rushers
or star receivers that are making more than fourth, fifth, sixth,
seventh round NFL players. Now, I could argue, because it's
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football and there's a regulated level of violence, you're better
to go pro get your pension started. That's certainly an argument.
But you know, try telling a twenty two year old kid,
if somebody's gonna offer him two million dollars or he's
gonna make three hundred and seventy five thousand in the pros,
stay in college. I mean, I'm watching that story on
Carson Beck. He's got a cute girlfriend. He's making ten
million dollars, there's no state tax, He's going to the U.
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That sounds fun to me. I had to put chains
on my car in college it was cold and snowy,
and his college career sounds really fun. Would you rather
be the backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns making seven
hundred thousand a year or making ten million dollars at
the U on that campus? You tell me. And by
the way, I don't think Carson Beck is a wildly
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great prospect in the pros. I mean I look at
some of these quarterbacks and I'm like, why would I
go pro? I'd rather stay at Texas, Miami, Michigan, Ohio State.
You understand what these quarterbacks are making in college now,
They're making like five, six, seven, eight million dollars. And
these programs, these big en programs, if you go look
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at how they feed the players, how they treat the players,
the facilities that are being constantly upgraded for players. That's
a way better life than getting your head beat in
or holding the clipboard in the NFL. I mean, Johnny
Manziel was a rock star at Texas, A and M.
He didn't buy a meal down there, Vince Young, same
at Texas. So in last Now, it's different if you're
going to be a top five or six pick, if
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you're as good as Jaden or JJ McCarthy, if your
first round pick. But let's be honest, there's like four
of those guys maybe a year in college football. Four
there's about seven eight other guys stay in college and
I think it helps the sport. You think I'm crazy
on this, j Mac ten million dollars to play college football.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, you make it sound like being the backup of
the Cleveland Browns is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Seven hundred thousand. They're making more than that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
A backup that was a six round pick.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Well, if it's a six round pick, he might not
be the backup, I mean, might be on the practice squad.
But yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. Plus, Carson
Beck has like a famous girlfriend. She's some one of
these TikTok influencers.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
She goes to Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm getting banned Friday next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, her careers out.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
But yeah, so he wants to like be around her.
Miami's not a bad place to be. It's where I
had my bachelor party.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
It's an amazing city, of course, Yeah, I did toss
that in there, But yeah, like, do you want to
go to Jacksonville and be the backup to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm not saying if you're Joe Burrow or Herbert or
two of j pro but I think I think this
is a big advantage for college football quality quarterback play.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But you know, the window for NFL is much smaller
than NBA. Like Lebron's playing at forty he is an outlier,
but Curry Durant, all these guys are in their mid thirties,
mid thirties, You're definitely out of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You're trying to get the television.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
You know, NFL your career is probably over unless you're
like an offensive lineman like thirty three. Ish quarterbacks last
a little longer, right, I think your NBA career can
be stretched out.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
One of the reasons we had Adam silver on on
is to ask him about some of the problems with
the NBA. Now, the NBA makes a lot of money,
it gets a lot of people that love it, the
quality of the athletes better, the international game is great,
So there's a lot of things going on right with it,
But one of the issues with it is this lack
of recognizable domestic and international players. And that's why March madness.
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You see Zach Edy, right, you that you don't watch
Big ten basketball. You see Zach Edy as an underclassman
and you're like, oh, that's cool. The fact that Zach
Edy came back to college basketball with Purdue and they
were a very good team. Well, I was into the
Zach Edy. So every coach I'd bring on, I'd bring
on Jay Ryd or Mark Fielm. Like, what do you
make of as Zach Edy guy? I asked the every
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time I brought a college coach on. So I got
into Zach Edy. Well, now I'm going to watch him
in the NBA. Even if he's done a great player,
he's really good.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So I just think of all the issues we got
into this discussion this morning, of all the issues with
the NBA, to me, that it's not three pointers, although
I think that needs to be tweaked. The number one issue.
And I've always said this about politics. Before Barack Obama arrived,
the Democratic Party was really was going through a tough time.
They felt rudderless and then they found their rockstar. And
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by the way, the Conservatives were a little bit rudderless.
Then they found Trump. However, many years ago, is that
it's amazing if you get the right coach in football,
it solves a lot of issues. If you get the
right quarterback in the NFL, solves a lot of issues.
And so in the NBA they could solve all their
We wouldn't talk nearly as much about the problems with
the NBA. Let's just say Cooper Flag from Duke stays
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Win's and nat and goes on to average twenty seven
as a rookie he might and ends up going to
a team and all of a sudden, that team makes
two or three trades and you're like, oh, we got
a domestic star, and he's a good looking guy and
he's feisty. The NBA's a lot of times in life
your problems can be solved by just hiring, drafting, finding
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a rock star. I was just talking to somebody about
just talking to somebody last night about Starbucks had a
rough year last year, the stock and they got rid
of their CEO and they went to Chipotle and hired
that CEO. And the story is he is fantastic, and
they had all these problems and blah blah blah, and
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now nobody's talking about it. So sometimes problems can be
solved by one or two agents, one or two platforms,
or so. I just think my take is the primary
issue is we just know who these college football kids are,
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and now they're gonna stay longer the star quarterback.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
The one argument for basketball is, you know, these high
school kids have such great highlight reels that we knew
about Zion Williamson when he was like tenth grade. You
we get many football players in ten No, no, no, no,
But like right now, there's a kid in high school
basketball who is utterly dominant, Gilbert Arenas's son.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
He is everywhere.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
He probably has more Instagram followers than ninety percent of
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
This kid is skyrocketing. To start him, He's gonna be huge.
He's going to only be one and done in college.
Maybe he goes straight to the pros.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
The NBA culturally, like online, that social discussion, the NBA
in basketball dominates. I don't know any high school football
players right now, do you know, do you know many
of them?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
There's a lot on the basketball I've been following off
for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I know all of them. Okay, fine, wrong guyed ass,
but I do think it's a little overblown.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think we need more domestic stars in pro basketball
that would be let me tell you something. Look at
the NBA pre Magic and Bird. It was pretty rocky.
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Here we go. It is a Friday. We are live
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making us part of your day. I'm a blazing four
in one hour. Jmax got his picks. Actually, I think
it gets easier as you get to the playoffs because
you have the best quarterbacks and you kind of know
what you're going to get in the performances. So here
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we go on a Friday, Jamax, I want to start
the show talking Phil's Ravens and then Rams Eagles because
the Eagles feel combustible but yet to keep winning. Let's
start with Baltimore and it sounds good.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I thought you would start with your haircut. That's like
you got a little streatball.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Bolas. Hygien is essential for our show, especially during the
football season. So let's start with this. It is Bill's Ravens,
which has a chance to be the best football game
of the last five six months. But it's also a
game about Josh Allen and about Lamar Jackson, and it
really is, and it may be unfair, but it's a
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quarterback dominated league, and so I think the game means
more to Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen's actually been very good
in the postseason. Infect his passer rating in the playoffs
is one of the best ever. He just lost to
Joe Burrow once and Mahomes three times. But Lamar Jackson
often feels like a different player in the playoffs. It's
like Derek Jeter in baseball. You got the same Jeter
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regular season or the World Series. That's Josh Allen Lamar.
You look at the numbers, you don't. He's closer to
Barry Bonds, the Great Barry Bonds. First twenty eight playoff games,
he had one home run. Where did the power go?
Lamar looks tight, he looks anxious, he admits it, and
you're left scratching your head. And that's why I believe
this game means a lot more for Lamar Jackson. If
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he plays well and loses, that's okay, because we all
get how good Josh Allen is, and we all get
how good Buffalo is. I mean, he loses in overtime
and puts up three hundred total yards, we're fine. But
if Lamar delivers another clunker, and he's had a few
as a playoff quarterback, not all, but if he delivers
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a clunker, it's going to start to define him and
how he plays matters. Peyton Manning, for the longest time,
was known as the second best Manning in the playoffs.
It was Eli quirky, Eli that was cool under pressure,
could win on the road whether it didn't matter, and
it wasn't until Brady. If you go back to I
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was looking this morning, Manning was three and six. He
started the playoffs three and six, that was his playoff record,
and he was zero to two against Brady and he
was awful in the games against Brady. It was Eli
that was cool under pressure. So that Denver stay for
Peyton Manning really really helped his legacy and now we
consider him. Oh, Peyton Manning was great all the time.
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Like Lamar, he'd had some decent early playoff games, but
until he won that first Super Bowl. We were looking
around going, oh, he gets a little tight. He's a
teeth clencher. And that's how we feel about Lamar. What
Lamar doesn't want to be and I don't think he
is at all. But you don't want to be James
Harden where everybody kind of rolls their eyes. You're great
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in the games that don't count, but you're shrinking the
big ones. So I think the pressure is absolutely on
Lamar Jackson. Now here is the good news. You have
to dig a little bit deeper on Lamar Jackson. And
this is why a lot of the odds makers think
Baltimore should be the favorite. Is Lamar's first four playoff games,
it was like early Peyton Manning. He wasn't very good
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passera at sixty eight, but he has gotten better in
his last three playoff games. So Sean McDermott this week
talked about the battle not only Bill's Ravens, but about
Josh against Lamar.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I see the comparison or the parallels they've probably in there,
though in terms of the uniqueness of both players right
and not short changing either of them. I mean they're
they're the best, They're the top shelf in the NFL
those two.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And it should also be noted whereas Joe Burrow, some
would argue, is equally talented, his franchise had to sell
off naming rights for the stadium for them to be
able to afford Joe Burrow's contract. You can't take the
Bengals seriously because of upstairs. The Ravens are well run,
the Bills are well run. So both franchises have gotten
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these remarkable all time unique talents, really really good players.
Now I think Buffalo's got more good players than Baltimore.
So I like the Bills at home this week. But
what's really great about this game, It's not just great quarterbacks.
It's great organizations, much like Mahomes in Kansas City. And
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I think we have a chance to see the best
football game in the last six months. So I want
to talk now about the Philadelphia Eagles, who I think
will beat and host the Rams. So I just tried.
They're a jigsaw puzzle to me, I can't. I know
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the Eagles are well run, but it is fascinating. I
saw another story this morning and it said Jalen Hurts
and Nick Sirianna's Sirianni's relationship is finally in a better
place as they get ready for the playoff run here
and I thought to myself, I'd hope. So they won
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twelve of the last thirteen games. They're forty eight and
fourteen all time together. How can they not get along?
It would be like one of those Hollywood divorces. You're like,
the people are both beautiful, their kids are beautiful, they're rich,
they're pampered that live in Beverly Hills. Can't you guys
get along? A lot of couples with much less are
doing much better. And what's interesting about it is, you
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know the stories not coming from Jalen Hurts, All these
stories about their relationship, right, because Jalen Hurts went to
the Nick Saban School in Alabama of Never Say Anything,
and he's also a very mature adult, quiet reserve kid.
So the leaks must be coming from Siriani. I don't
think they are. Why because Nick Sirianni looks bad in
this How the hell can you not get along with him?
(06:43):
Everybody likes Jalen Hurts. Where are the stories coming from?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
So?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think it's fascinating. And that's the first part. Who's
leaking it? The second part is that I keep thinking
about this is if you're struggling to get along now
and you're winning five of six games year together, what
happens when you start losing? I mean, and this is
what's interesting. Last year, remember down the stretch they were awful.
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If you take that stretch last year when they were awful,
lost six to seven games, they're forty eight and fourteen together.
If you have the playoffs, that's that forty eight and
fourteen record. I'm taking out that bad stretch, so it's
almost all been rainbows, harmony, pots of gold. But maybe
it was that little stumble last year, that little stumble
at the end, that six ' seven take that out there,
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forty eight and fourteen that caused all this, that they're
really not built for each other. Or maybe it's this
and I was thinking about that. Every time I see
a story on this, I think about this. There are families,
and I've known people like this. They're always arguing, and
yet they last forever and they're incredibly close. You see
this all the time. Sirianni is young, and he's emotional,
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and isn't Philadelphia one of our more emotional cities. Siriani
is come comtive, so is Philadelphia. Nick Sirianni always looks
tired and ornery. Philadelphia is kind of tired and ornery.
Doug Peterson was too chill for Philadelphia. Chip Kelly, you
could argue, was too emotionally remote for Philadelphia. And there's
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an argument that Nick Ceriani is perhaps perfect combative, feisty,
looks tired, and Big Dom has his arms around all
of it. We have all known a family like this.
There's a comedian out there, mana Caasko, Sebastian Minikawsko. He
jokes about his family. He's like, we fought, We argued,
(08:40):
Dad couldn't give you a compliment. At some point, I
wouldn't let him come to my shows. And the guy's
one of the biggest rock stars in comedy in the
United States today. And I thought about that comedian because
I went to see him in Chicago about six seven
weeks ago, and he was hysterical and a lot of
it's about his family, and I'm like, this sounds like
a brutal childhood. Yet they're incredibly close, and I'm like,
maybe this is Sirianni. The Philly fans Big Dom Jalen
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Hurts the loud sports talk radio. It's the family that
screams and yells and argues even at Thanksgiving, even on vacation,
and that they love each other. It wouldn't work for me,
but it works for them. I like Philadelphia and Buffalo.
Blazing five picks top of next hour. J Mac, you
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know it's same four teams in the final four in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
We talk about this all the time. Week to week.
The NFL is really difficult to predict, especially when you
talk about betting lines. But on a macro level, it's
very easy to figure out. You start looking around. It's
it's Lamar, it's Josh, it's Hurts, it's golf, it's Stafford,
it's c J. Stroud. You know the only great quarterback
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who didn't make the playoffs Joe Burrow, whose organization always
like they're frugal and pinsion pennies and the little backwards.
But I got blazing five today. You got your picks.
I think we're going to be treated like college football.
The longer the playoffs went, the better the games went.
So I think we're going to be treated to that.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
So you don't think we're getting three blowouts. I mean,
how many blow off we get last week in like five.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I even think Commanders if they get the opening kick
and score and get the Lions a little bit on
their heels, then I think it's interesting. Now if Detroit wins,
it takes it down seven to nothing and starts marching
with confidence rested, and by they're getting defensive players back,
that game I feel could get ugly.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
For what it's worth, that line just hit ten. Detroit
is favored by ten. Yeah that's the one I spread
this week. Yeah, you know me and big spreads. I
stayed away that in that in the Blazing five, I
could see Detroit rolling them, but I could also see Commanders.
Jayden Daniels is hard to figure out. They stay in games.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
The Commanders stay in games when they get out played,
and it's almost a talent that you look up and
you're like, Washington doesn't have as good a players. They're
getting outplayed. One of the only games I saw all
year where I thought it was a stinker for them.
I mean, they really didn't show up was New Orleans
and they still ended up. Remember that game, they go
down to New Orleans, they don't play very well at all,
and they're the better team there, and they still figure
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out a way to win the game. They figured out
ways to win games the Bears game in which you
think they're outplayed.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, hanging around.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Just hang around and let Jayden Daniels take you to
the Promised Land.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Yeap.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
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Speaker 1 (11:35):
Came man because I'm prone to do, I'm driving into
the show today and I had an idea I have
said for the Chicago Bears, I think it is too
big of a lift to hire somebody that's never been
a head coach. So I would go with Mike McCarthy.
But there is a story out can the Chicago Bears
resist Marcus Freeman? Now? Jordan Schultz on our show yesterday
(11:59):
said it to coach Race Ben Johnson, Mike McCarthy. There's
a lot of politics and dysfunction here. I couldn't go
with a young coordinator, but Marcus Freeman's not. He's a
head coach. And if he beats Ohio State Monday with
one five star athlete, that's that's fewer than Kentucky football
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has and that's a basketball school. One five star athlete.
Ohio State has fourteen. Do you offer him the gig?
He's the closest thing I've seen to Sean McVay. And
when Stan Cronke interviewed Sean McVay, la Rams owner, he
would not let him on the plane before he signed.
And if you've ever been around Sean McVay or watched
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him at the podium, bruh, he's different. So they brought
him in for an interview and said, yeah, we're gonna
change plans. We're hiring him. And I thought watching Marcus Freeman,
and this is how the Rams thought. If you don't
hire McVeigh, you have to coach against him for the
next fifteen years. Let's just give him the job. Little
risky thirty years old, and Marcus Freeman has a chance
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to be the youngest coach to ever win a national championship.
And I look at him and I think, if you
meet him and you see his energy. McVeigh went to
a Rams team that was worse than the Bears. They
were four and twelve and the worst offense in the league,
and their quarterback Goff went oh to seven. The next year,
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the Rams won eleven games and had the number one
ranked offense. Now I'm not saying Marcus Freeman's a quarterback expert,
but Riley Leonard's a lot better at Notre Dame than
he was at Duke. And this team should not be
playing for a national championship. And my point is some
people are simply different. He also does it the right way.
He's slow patient. So Sean McVay has been with the
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Rams about as long as I've lived in LA and
he's winning double digits virtually every year, even in rebuild.
As long as his quarterback is upright and healthy, he wins.
I don't know if Marcus Freeman even has to beat
Ohio State, but one of the things that's pretty clear
having watched McVeigh here, there are coaches that are simply different.
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And I said this a couple of weeks ago when
I watched Marcus Freeman on television. I watch him at
the podium, I watch him on the sidelines, and I
watched the staff he built at Notre Dame, which is
arguably the best staff in college football. That is one
of the secret sauces to McVeigh. He runs through staff,
doesn't matter, doesn't matter who's OC or DC. He shouldn't
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be as good about DC's as he is, And yet
McVeigh keeps hiring these dcs who keep getting jobs, and
offensive coordinators keep getting jobs Kevin O'Connell, Zach Taylor, and
they end up in the playoffs. I mean, Belichick's tree
can't win games. Mcveigh's are getting to Super Bowls and
turning a Minnesota Vikings team into a fourteen win team.
(14:57):
So I think with Marcus Freeman, I'm gonna watch this
game Monday. You know, he may just be different. I
think the Bears is too big of a gig to
give it to somebody that's never had a head coaching job.
Notre Dame is not your typical college coaching job. It
is somewhere between college and the pros. It's not the pros,
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but the pressure, the alumni, the religious umbrella, the academic difficulty.
It is not It is not a typical college job.
Another reason I can't wait for Ohio State and Notre
Day Monday. Bears will probably hire somebody before the game.
I think I sit and wait for the game. I
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think I just sit and wait for the game. I
just want to see what it looks like Jmack with
the news.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No, no, no, this is the herd.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Lie urban Meyer came in our show. In fact, we
have a buy. I want to play this by urban
Meyer is not easily impressed. This was urban Meyer on
our show was It earlier this week? Talking about Marcus Freeman.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
His maturity of a coach is I don't want to
say it's unprecedented, but it's phenomenal what he's done. They
got something very special in that locker room, their leadership,
their toughness to refuse to lose. He's always had that
reputation of doing things the right way, of being unselfish
and extremely hard work, and I think that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
He was that as a player, he's that as a coach,
and it bleeds into his team. There you go.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm one hundred percent with you. I think be great
in Chicago. Let's start with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Collins So he was introduced as UNC's next head coach
many moons ago.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, moons ago.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
He's been on the recruiting trail and.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Putting his staff together, but reportedly he's operating without a
signed contract.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
This report adds.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
There could be a legal gray area about how much,
if any, of a buyout would be if he were.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Decided to return to the NFL. A lot of people
just keep pushing this Belichick out.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
But you know, it's funny about this because college football
and college recruiting can get a little sketch. You don't
think Bill's let out there. No, this is all his
rivals saying, hey, this guy's flying the coop. He's going now.
I thought if Buffalo or the Eagles lost in the
first round, he'd get a phone call. Since they both
won and convincingly, I think Bill's staying at Carolina for
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a year. But when a story you and I talk
about this, when a story gets out, it's not just
the story, it's why did it get out and who
leaked it. This feels like somebody, an agent for somebody
or something is like putting it out there that. Yeah,
when Bill comes on your recruiting door and knock knock,
knock knock, just knows contract.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Isn't something dirty. It's pretty dirty.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Yeah, whoever doing this, maybe Dabo Sweeney who knows was
planting these stories.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I think we could just close the door. He's not coming,
he's not coming back.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
He's going to coach at Carolina this year and you
think maybe next Come on.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I think it's just a fun storyline, like Dianna and
the Cowboys, who we'll get to.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Actually move on to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, they're in a coach exert.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Jerry Jones and Dion are being linked so hot and
heavy that Cowboys head coaching odds are out and Dion
is number one. Put in, put stock into this, whatever
you will. The number one's one. Robert Salah in second.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
That is comical. Oh my god, get out of here now. Listen.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You can't get down any real money. You can't put
six figures on this, nothing you would. Kellen Moore is third,
Ben Johnson his fourth, Cliff King for his fifth.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Come These are the odds that are out.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Steve Starkeshan is is others, and so as is Witten,
Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, you know, this was Jerry being patient. Jerry
being patient. You know, Jerry has that saying whenever I
try to get a bargain, that's exactly what I get.
So it's not a money thing. Everybody keeps talking about
the buyout. I think Bart I think, what if, what
if Jerry's doing this? Let me just throw this at you, okay,
(18:58):
is that Jerry wants to hire Deon Sanders and he'll
be able to use the excuse, well, I gave it
great thought, and he's going to let other guys get
hired and say, you know, we looked at them, but
they got hired by somebody else. And that Jerry his
primary focus from the very beginning has been Deon Sanders
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because the team now is boring and Dion's not. And
that Jerry, how did this get out? Who leaked the story?
I'm just saying, I'm throwing it out. That part of
doing a three hour show is throwing out conjecture. Fun
is that Jerry really wants to hire Deon and it's
okay to hire him. Let's let Rabel's the best candidate
gets hired somewhere else. Rabel would want to say in personnel,
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and Jerry didn't want to give that up. Jerry didn't
want to give that up, so he did. And by
the way, you know, there's other candidates here who have
multiple offers from multiple teams. They'll want more power. Jerry
doesn't like relinquishing it. That Dion would come Dallas and
wouldn't ask for a lot of things other than good
(20:03):
salary get him out of Colorado. Maybe be a bit
more grateful, because nobody, nobody talked about d On coaching
in the NFL seriously until four days ago.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Well, wait a minute, he talked about that. We knew
that Shador was going and.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
We thought he would file, but he os downplayed college.
He loves college, he loves the kids and the life
journey and offering wisdom.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, you're Maybe you're right,
Like Jerry went out nixes and oh this is about
butts in the seat and eyeballs on the screen.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
And Jerry, this is Jerry's number one candidate and he's
letting it come out slowly. But it's really who we want.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So the Cowboys aren't even a top ten team.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
If they land Deon Sanders' coach, they're probably gonna get
three or four games in the Fox four pm window,
a bunch.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Of Sunday night football.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
There's no question they're gonna be talked about on this show,
no question, assuming we're here. Every other show out there,
they're gonna just be talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
The merchandise sales. Remember fans can belly ache. I don't
love my team. This sting the minute you hired Dion
merchandise sales through the roofs like team number to O.
Everybody hated too until he was on your team, and
then he loved win.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
He could take you places.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
He's a really town forty nine ers, he won Eagles
got to the super Bowl, like he's a really good player.
I mean, this could be like a spectacular combustible two
years now.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Because you say Dion's not gonna want any power.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
By the way, He's not gonna just take Jerry Jones
making all these comments in the media, the way McCarthy's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Dion's gonna push back. He's not gonna just take it.
Is he deon Sanders interesting? You know I did an
interview with him once.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Within three questions, he hung up the phone on me
because I started asking, like, you know, interesting stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He's like, I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Click Like he's not gonna take Jerry Jones blasting him
and the team when they get run out of the
building thirty to ten.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You know, Dion's gonna push back.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
So maybe there is something there by the way Robert
Salah to the Cowboys. Do you know what his record
with the Jets is seventy four games under five hundred.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everybody's record of the Jets is poor. You go ask
Sam Darnold, leave New York, beautiful things happen? Is that
is selling what?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hey? Donald loved New York.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I can do the same.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Final story is the Packers early exit from the playoffs
lost in Philly. We know Matt Lafleur wants Jordan Love
to be more of a vocal leader, but GM Brian
Gutakutzt wants there to be more urgency from the team
going forward.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
The thing that's that on my mind, I think as
we concluded this season is we need we need to
continue to ramp up our sense of urgency. We got
a bunch of good, good guys in that locker room.
Get a bunch of talented guys in that locker room,
and yeah, I think it's time that we start competing
for championships, right, And I think they're ready. I think,
like I said, I think they are wired right. I
think that group is is the kind of guys that
can do that. But at the end of the day,
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you gotta go do it.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't even know what that means, Colin ramp up.
Were they not urgent?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well, I think there's a sense that Green Bay is
slowly building and baking this young team, and he wants
to create a sense of we're good enough to win, now,
let's play better. They've been very and this is one
of the strainths of Green Bay with their development of players.
This has always been a core strength of the organization.
Their patient, they draft, they developed, they sit people. And
he's saying, okay, enough because Detroit's good, Minnesota's here in
(23:16):
Chicago's getting good fast too if they get the right code.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Okay, But so is this about Jordan Love?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Is this what this is?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Because he's the only reason they didn't have a great season? Right?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, no, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
What he didn't play great this year, Colin.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He I don't want to say he regressed, but he
did not continue that upward trajectory we thought he had.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, he was not hurt, and Malik Willis won them games.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Like, yeah, I think it's fair to say that. I
not that I've cooled on Jordan Love. I thought at
the end of last year he would move into an
elite top six in the league, and now I think
he's top ten. I think he's like ten Jordan Love. Yeah,
ten to eleven.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, So he's not better than any of the eight
quarterbacks in the in the playoffs down right?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, I think so that. I thought he was better
than C. J. Stroud for sure, and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I think he's better in the pocket than Jalen Hurts.
He's much more athletic than C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Hold on, Jordan Love is better than c. J. Stroud
right now, you think? And Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
When C. J.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Stroud gets beat by twenty one points this weekend, that's
not on stroud Man beat.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
The Chiefs are favorites.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
So Burrow also, Okay, brock Purty obviously better than Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
We know that.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Wait, you're not agreeing with me on the No, no, no,
I still I'm not selling my Joline Loves. Okay, alright,
you don't have to have a quarterback ranking list in
the off season. I don't think he's stopped ten right now,
not based on this season, Colin.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well, I do J mckle the news, Well, that's the
news and thanks for stopping by. Speaking of coaches. So
the staff this morning gave me this. There's a pull out.
Was this from the Dallas Morning News or something? They
they they pulled Dallas Cowboy fans, it's pretty interesting. Do
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you approve of the way Jerry Jones handled the decision?
It's from the Athletic and seventy eight percent of Dallas
fans said no, we don't approve. And then the next
question was the decision has me feeling like dot dot dot,
and a fifty four percent said the franchise is lost
and there's absolutely no reason for hope. Now that's a
(25:23):
little bit dire, But you know, I don't know what
would happen if Deon Sanders got hired. He was you know,
he made a lot of headlines, but you know he
was thirteen and twelve, and you know he was kind
of like a five hundred college coach with a great
quarterback and maybe the best player. So here's if you
think Dion Sanders would work, here's a reason it could
(25:48):
because we just don't know. Like Mike McDaniels, I thought
it could work. I liked it. Mike McDaniel's Miami Today
feel Finesse, Nick serianni Ah Guy's press conference too combative, immature.
He's crushing Dan Campbell, Bill Parcells loved him. I think
(26:11):
Parcells is brilliant, but I was like, I don't know,
talking about Biten Kneecaps. He's crushing it. Doug Peterson totally chill.
I thought he was perfect in Jacksonville. Doesn't work Shane
Steichen in Indianapolis. I thought that was an absolute great hire.
(26:31):
I'm reading stories about the locker room's a mess. So
here's what the truth is about hiring a coach outside
of Harbaugh. Andy Reid the Kansas City, Sean Payton, Vrabel
to New England. Anytime Harbaugh's hired, there's stuff. We all know.
Those are the lamps in our job. We know that's
gonna work. But mostly it comes down to who's your quarterback.
(26:56):
And if Dak Prescott is your quarterback, I think it's
reasonable assume whoever gets the Dallas Cowboys job wins ten
or eleven games. Again, we all knew Andy Reid the
Kansas City that was gonna work. Rable to New England. Yeah,
they're gonna be better than Jared Mayo New England. Harbaugh
to the Chargers. I didn't know if they'd make the playoffs.
(27:18):
But you know, we said on the air, that's ten
eleven wins. He'll get it straight. But when we don't know,
what we didn't know was Sean McVay. Was this Bears
hire Marcus Freeman, you don't know. I think he could
be magical. But if you look at Dak's career, Dak
lendsay about ten games, and so if you start looking
at who's gonna work and who's not gonna work, I mean,
(27:40):
I bot about five hundred and most of my hits
have been with Harbaugh of the Chargers, Peyton to the Broncos,
Andy Reid, Kansas City, you know the oddvious stuff. I
thought dan Quinn with Washington would work with Cliff Kingsbury.
I thought that would be very very good. Plus they'd
bought himed out, so it had to be better. But
the reason you cowboy fans are in this, we'll never
(28:01):
get solved. I don't think you're going to hoist a
trophy with this roster for several years and what you're
paying Dak. But I think unless they hire somebody I've
never heard of, my guess is they'll be Okay, Fian'll
be fine. They won't finish in fourth place. That I
feel strongly about. If they hired Dion Sanders, they wouldn't
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We've got a little bit of a break the last
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Red Car out Cross. Give if you can so. I
thought that these stories were interesting and kind of predictable,
but everybody pushed back when the nil hit College football,
(30:10):
And if you're listening or watching my show and you
don't follow college football, basically college football players now often
make more than pro players, especially quarterbacks. And there's a
story out where Carson Beck, who played at Georgia could
have gone pro, declared for the draft and said, now
I'm gonna do a U turn and go to the
U and he's going to make ten million dollars playing
college football. Quinn Yours, by the way, turned down eight
(30:31):
million dollars in college football to transfer. And so this
is the opposite. This actually helps college football and pro football,
not just so.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Opposite of the basketball culture in America, which I think
is largely broken. It's all about, hey, just go for
the money, whatever league international leave college. So what college
football now is going to get is older, mature players,
not only adding familiarity and stability. Think about this. Stuart
Mandel covers college football. He had this tweet. In the
(31:05):
last couple of days, seventy players have declared for the draft.
That is half the number of six years ago. So
college football is getting older, more mature, better players, staying longer,
higher quality. Right, you watch college basketball, the best players
are all like nineteen one and done boom. See him
head off to a lousy team and they're anonymous sitting
(31:27):
on the bench or of a rotational guy, or maybe
they start for a really bad team, and you have
no emotional connection to the players. And that's why I
think the basketball culture in America part We were talking
about this in the hallway this morning as we were
walking to the show with Ryan the producer. I was saying,
you know, you just don't have any connection to these
college guys. SGA stays one year, two years at Kentucky,
(31:48):
You're like, oh, that kid's interesting. Boom he's gone. And
then he's part of the OKC rebuild and last night
you know he's a great, great player, just a dominant score.
But you don't have as much of a connection unless
you're a die hard fan. And so this also, I
think what's happening in college football helps the NFL general
managers because now I get more tape on players in
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a different environment. You know, this is why the COVID
quarterback class was so awful. I mean, he had very
little tape on Zach Wilson. His pro day was what
people were falling in love with Trey Lance. He had
three pieces of fuzzy video. But now with guys staying
in school a year longer, a more great players staying
(32:30):
in college football. That helps the opposite of college basketball,
and it gives NFL general managers more video and film
and reps to work with. I mean and a prime
example of why college football is so much more popular
than college basketball. College basketball now is all about the tournament.
Go look at the draft last year, the NFL Draft
(32:51):
and the college basketball draft.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
J Mack is one of the seven people on earth
that knew every one of these basketball players coming out
of Lithuania. But if you look at if you look
at the NFL Draft, it was when we watched Caleb
Williams at high profile USC. Now, I saw Jaden Daniel's
number two pick at Arizona State. Most of you saw
him at LSU. Drake may was at Carolina. We didn't
see a ton of him, But Marvin Harrison Ohio State,
(33:15):
Joe Alt Notre Dame, Molite neighbors LSU, Michael Pennock's Washington, Roma, Dunzay,
those teams were in big national TV games. JJ McCarthy Michigan,
Bo Nicks at Oregon, and the offensive tackle from Penn State.
So I'm watching those guys for years and years. I'm
familiar with them. So the college football is now getting
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more of this, more of these players in the blue
on the left. Sorry, radio audience, college basketball and basketball's
culture does a diss service. I had Adam Silver on
NBA Commission this week and I said that, I said,
why do you guys marginalize college basketball? That's how I
learned who Zion Williamson is or Cooper Flagg at Duke
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if he goes to the G League. I don't know
who he is. I have no connection to him. So
I think college football this is really good news for
college football that you will find every year going forward
there'll be twenty quarterbacks or left tackles, or edge rushers
or star receivers that are making more than fourth, fifth, sixth,
seventh round NFL players. Now, I could argue, because it's
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football and there's a regulated level of violence, you're better
to go pro get your pension started. That's certainly an argument.
But you know, try telling a twenty two year old kid,
if somebody's gonna offer him two million dollars or he's
gonna make three hundred and seventy five thousand in the pros,
stay in college. I mean, I'm watching that story on
Carson Beck. He's got a cute girlfriend. He's making ten
million dollars, there's no state tax, He's going to the U.
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That sounds fun to me. I had to put chains
on my car in college it was cold and snowy,
and his college career sounds really fun. Would you rather
be the backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns making seven
hundred thousand a year or making ten million dollars at
the U on that campus? You tell me. And by
the way, I don't think Carson Beck is a wildly
(35:05):
great prospect in the pros. I mean I look at
some of these quarterbacks and I'm like, why would I
go pro? I'd rather stay at Texas, Miami, Michigan, Ohio State.
You understand what these quarterbacks are making in college now,
They're making like five, six, seven, eight million dollars. And
these programs, these big en programs, if you go look
(35:28):
at how they feed the players, how they treat the players,
the facilities that are being constantly upgraded for players. That's
a way better life than getting your head beat in
or holding the clipboard in the NFL. I mean, Johnny
Manziel was a rock star at Texas, A and M.
He didn't buy a meal down there, Vince Young, same
at Texas. So in last Now, it's different if you're
going to be a top five or six pick, if
(35:50):
you're as good as Jaden or JJ McCarthy, if your
first round pick. But let's be honest, there's like four
of those guys maybe a year in college football. Four
there's about seven eight other guys stay in college and
I think it helps the sport. You think I'm crazy
on this, j Mac ten million dollars to play college football.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Well, you make it sound like being the backup of
the Cleveland Browns is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Seven hundred thousand. They're making more than that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
A backup that was a six round pick.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Well, if it's a six round pick, he might not
be the backup, I mean, might be on the practice squad.
But yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. Plus, Carson
Beck has like a famous girlfriend. She's some one of
these TikTok influencers.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
She goes to Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm getting banned Friday next Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, her careers out.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
But yeah, so he wants to like be around her.
Miami's not a bad place to be. It's where I
had my bachelor party.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
It's an amazing city, of course, Yeah, I did toss
that in there, But yeah, like, do you want to
go to Jacksonville and be the backup to Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm not saying if you're Joe Burrow or Herbert or
two of j pro but I think I think this
is a big advantage for college football quality quarterback play.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
But you know, the window for NFL is much smaller
than NBA. Like Lebron's playing at forty he is an outlier,
but Curry Durant, all these guys are in their mid thirties,
mid thirties, You're definitely out of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
You're trying to get the television.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
You know, NFL your career is probably over unless you're
like an offensive lineman like thirty three. Ish quarterbacks last
a little longer, right, I think your NBA career can
be stretched out.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
One of the reasons we had Adam silver on on
is to ask him about some of the problems with
the NBA. Now, the NBA makes a lot of money,
it gets a lot of people that love it, the
quality of the athletes better, the international game is great,
So there's a lot of things going on right with it,
But one of the issues with it is this lack
of recognizable domestic and international players. And that's why March madness.
(37:45):
You see Zach Edy, right, you that you don't watch
Big ten basketball. You see Zach Edy as an underclassman
and you're like, oh, that's cool. The fact that Zach
Edy came back to college basketball with Purdue and they
were a very good team. Well, I was into the
Zach Edy. So every coach I'd bring on, I'd bring
on Jay Ryd or Mark Fielm. Like, what do you
make of as Zach Edy guy? I asked the every
(38:06):
time I brought a college coach on. So I got
into Zach Edy. Well, now I'm going to watch him
in the NBA. Even if he's done a great player,
he's really good.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
So I just think of all the issues we got
into this discussion this morning, of all the issues with
the NBA, to me, that it's not three pointers, although
I think that needs to be tweaked. The number one issue.
And I've always said this about politics. Before Barack Obama arrived,
the Democratic Party was really was going through a tough time.
They felt rudderless and then they found their rockstar. And
(38:36):
by the way, the Conservatives were a little bit rudderless.
Then they found Trump. However, many years ago, is that
it's amazing if you get the right coach in football,
it solves a lot of issues. If you get the
right quarterback in the NFL, solves a lot of issues.
And so in the NBA they could solve all their
We wouldn't talk nearly as much about the problems with
the NBA. Let's just say Cooper Flag from Duke stays
(38:59):
Win's and nat and goes on to average twenty seven
as a rookie he might and ends up going to
a team and all of a sudden, that team makes
two or three trades and you're like, oh, we got
a domestic star, and he's a good looking guy and
he's feisty. The NBA's a lot of times in life
your problems can be solved by just hiring, drafting, finding
(39:19):
a rock star. I was just talking to somebody about
just talking to somebody last night about Starbucks had a
rough year last year, the stock and they got rid
of their CEO and they went to Chipotle and hired
that CEO. And the story is he is fantastic, and
they had all these problems and blah blah blah, and
(39:40):
now nobody's talking about it. So sometimes problems can be
solved by one or two agents, one or two platforms,
or so. I just think my take is the primary
issue is we just know who these college football kids are,
(40:01):
and now they're gonna stay longer the star quarterback.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
The one argument for basketball is, you know, these high
school kids have such great highlight reels that we knew
about Zion Williamson when he was like tenth grade. You
we get many football players in ten No, no, no, no,
But like right now, there's a kid in high school
basketball who is utterly dominant, Gilbert Arenas's son.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
He is everywhere.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
He probably has more Instagram followers than ninety percent of
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
This kid is skyrocketing. To start him, He's gonna be huge.
He's going to only be one and done in college.
Maybe he goes straight to the pros.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
The NBA culturally, like online, that social discussion, the NBA
in basketball dominates. I don't know any high school football
players right now, do you know, do you know many
of them?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
There's a lot on the basketball I've been following off
for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I know all of them. Okay, fine, wrong guyed ass,
but I do think it's a little overblown.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I think we need more domestic stars in pro basketball
that would be let me tell you something. Look at
the NBA pre Magic and Bird. It was pretty rocky.
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