3 & Out - Eagles-Rams Reaction, Kauff on Campus - The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three
and out podcast, How are we doing?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Here? Is the drill Today?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I recorded a National Championship in Just College Football kind
of preview for tonight with Jackson intern Jackson last week,
so that'll be the majority of the podcast I'm going
on or I went on if you're listening to this
with Colin after the Ravens Bills game. So I did
a quick reaction after the Eagles won before that game,

(00:47):
so I that'll open up the show. Some thoughts on
Eagles Rams, which was just awesome, I mean, talk about football, weather,
talk about Saquon Barkley, Jalen Carter, Jared Vers of just.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
That that was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I mean I was, I was pacing around the office.
Also had the Rams plus six and a half, so
sweating that bad boy out. But so we'll react to
the Rams Eagles game, obviously the Eagles going back to
the NFC Championship game, and we will talk some college
football and then we will be back on Tuesday with
just a just a podcast. So hopefully everyone had a
good weekend. Hopefully everyone enjoyed the football. We also had

(01:24):
a reaction and a podcast and a video, so go
check out the YouTube channel, subscribe to the podcast feed
if you listen on Collins Feed on Saturday night after
what game was at the Lions lost.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm already like kind.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Of figuring out, you know, you're just so in the
moment after the Lions game. Some thoughts on the Chiefs game.
Is Mahomes getting all the calls. We will dive into
it all, so make sure if you miss that check
that out as well. There's nothing better than playoff football
in the snow in freezing cold temperatures. That was awesome.

(01:59):
I mean that that was the best. When the snow
started coming down, it literally started falling right as Saquon
was scoring his first long touchdown of the game. You
could see it coming as he kind of rounded in
the end zone and it didn't relent. And obviously coming
out of halftime it was gonna be a huge deal
and it was massive, right. It was hard for guys

(02:20):
to get their footing. It was a huge impact. But
to me, you know, this game really came down to
Philadelphia and the way they built this team. I mean,
Howie had his imprint and fingertips all over this bad boy.
Saquon Barkley runs for two hundred and five yards, two

(02:42):
massive explosive runs. They have Jalen Carter, who forced a
huge fumble on Kierwin Williams when it felt like the
Rams were about to take over the game. Had the
sack on the second to last play of the game,
you know, and when the Rams were basically in the

(03:02):
red zone and felt like God, they could score a
touchdown and win this game. And I think you also
saw Zach Bond made huge plays anyone could have had him.
Makai Becton had a massive plays today. I mean, those
two guys were projections. They were viewed like draft picks,
as guys that were already in the NFL. Yeah, we're

(03:23):
gonna take Zach Bond, we're gonna change his position. We're
gonna take Makai Becton and we're gonna change his position,
and they're gonna be impact players. Obviously, Bond is an
all Pro, Pro Bowl level guy and Benden is just fantastic.
But to me, this team has kind of gone all
season with Saquon Barkley and very fitting that today in

(03:45):
a game that was decided twenty eight to twenty two
in the snow, the guy runs for over two hundred
yards and has two touchdowns, which both of them were
kind of the game. Early on, it felt like, God,
the Rams are keeping this thing a little bit closer
than you thought. Then all of a sudden, Saquan hits
the big run. And I love it when announcers say
this and coaches do too.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Well, you know we've done a good job.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
At halftime, he has ninety yards, but you remove the
sixty yard run, he only has thirty. Well, you can't
remove the sixty yard run that happened, and that's points
just like his other run. Like you don't get to
remove those runs. And that's the thing with Saquon Barkley
all season long. At any moment, you know, he's got
a little Barry Sanders quality to him. This year, it's

(04:29):
like he's got ten carries for twenty three yards and
then all of a sudden, seventy five yard later. It's
like Jesus, I think the stat was heading into the
last game of the season. I think he had four
or five runs over sixty plus yards. I mean tonight
he essentially had two. He had, Yeah, he had a
sixty two yard er and a seventy eight yarder, So

(04:51):
on two runs. He had one hundred and forty yards
in two touchdowns. I mean, and if it's not for
the fucking kicker, who is a major problem, Like the
Eagles have two major problems right now. For a team
that is absolutely loaded with talent everywhere, their kicker is
not even close to reliable. And the one reason the
Rams were in this game today, And listen, Stafford had

(05:12):
his moments and there were some passes clearly he would
like back, but he played a different sport from within
the pocket than Jalen Hurts. Obviously, the game opens up
with Jalen busting the long run and then he got
injured as the game went on, couldn't move as well,
but like him passing from within the pocket.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And listen, I give.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
You a little bit of room for error when the
snow is falling and the wind is running, but he
like can't function. There is no passing game. So if
it's not for Saquon's two hundred yards and Colin and
I and I think he said this last week like
they're Saquon Barkley offense, and it's true. The reason he's
reading Inner Excellence and trying to keep his emotions down

(05:51):
because he wants to get mad at the quarterback because
a quarterback can't get him the ball. Now, in fairness,
say Jalen did hit him on one down the sideline
that he double caught Andy. You know by the time
he was out of bounds, it didn't count. But like Jalen,
this is a Super Bowl roster. No one would argue
that their quarterback passing the ball is a major question mark.
Their run game is elite, their defense is pretty damn good,

(06:13):
and obviously they got some elite defensive lineman. They got
some high end dbs. You got ball, and he's a baller.
Their quarterback passing from within the pocket major red flag.
They're running back. Maria walked in right as he was
busting a second run to the office, and she was like,
is he better than Christian McCaffrey, Like when Christian McCaffrey's healthy.
I'm like, well, Christian catches the ball better than him,

(06:35):
but he ain't that fast anymore. And Saquan speed is elite.
He gets a little daylight, he's fucking out the gate
as the announcers say, pay dirt and it's over. And
I think the other move that like gets back to
Howie is The Eagles did two things when it came
to Jalen Carter. One, they put their nuts on the

(06:56):
table because it was a ballsy pick. This guy was
easily the best player in the draft, universally agreed upon.
No one disputed it. Best player in the draft, not
even close was him. But he was a major red
flag lot. Some teams had him off the draft board.
A lot of teams were on the fence about drafting him,

(07:16):
but didn't have the stones. And most importantly, what the
Eagles has had. They had the infrastructure, so they had
the balls, they had the Kahonas, but they also had
the infrastructure. They had Fletcher Cox, a legendary defensive lineman.
They had a leader in Kelsey that was you know,
go up against him every day in practice, and they
just have a lot of high level guys. Also, they
had guys like Nikobe Dean on the team. And obviously

(07:39):
they ended up drafting Nolan Smith, guys that high character,
guys who played with him in college, and they felt like,
you know what, we can handle him. And two years later,
I mean, Sakuan was the best player on the field.
You could argue Jared Verse or Jalen Carter is the
second best player in the field, and like he's just

(08:00):
an unstoppable force. And that sack he had on Stafford
on third down with the game in the balance, like
they hit a couple more plays, score a touchdown, the
Eagles are gonna lose, and it would go down. I
think Eagles fans would agree. It would feel like one
of the worst losses in the history of the franchise.
It was like, this is fucking nuts. The Eagles are
gonna lose this game. They were just up twenty.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Eight to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's like, if Stafford throws a touchdown here, they're gonna lose.
And all of a sudden, Jalen Carter whoop right around
the center boom. Sacks is ass like it's just an
elite town. And I know a lot of people with
the franchise like he's an unstoppable force. He is an
unstoppable force. So you got Saquon Barkley anyone could have had.

(08:44):
They gave him twenty seven million dollars. They have two
awesome wide receivers, they have a sweet tight end. Problem
is their quarterback goes through stretches where he's not throwing
the ball well. So it's like shit, let's just hand
into twenty six. We arguably got the best offensive line
in the league six and twenty six. When all LuSE fails,
he'll eventually bust up fifty to sixty seventy yard run.

(09:05):
And on defense, listen, defense is hard in the NFL.
The rules are against you. There was a helmet to
helmet penalty that ten years ago would have been called
a hospital ball. Jalen just threw it up there, and
now it's great to be an offensive player. You just
throw balls up into fucking no man's land where in
the history of the sport your wide receiver gets killed

(09:27):
instead automatic penalty. The rules are completely against you. Playing
defense the one area in which they're not line of scrimmage,
you're allowed to do whatever you want. It's still very,
very physical, and Jalen dominates, dominates, So does Jared Verse.
And those two guys like those are elite talents, and
those are guys. In this modern day game, quarterbacks make

(09:51):
more money than everyone else, but these elite defensive linemen.
I heard someone say the other day, like, get ready,
Micah Parsons is gonna ask for forty million dollars a
year and won one hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed.
That's why when people are saying like could they trade them, Yeah,
they could because that's his worth and someone will pay
them that. If the Raiders decide to nuke their franchise,

(10:14):
I don't mean, you know, if they hire Ben Johnson,
just completely start over. They could trade Bax Crosby for
potentially two ones. If Cleveland does the same with the
Miles Garrett, same thing, because those players are the second
most important guy on the field, and when you got
an elite one, they're worth their weight in gold. And
holy shit, Jalen is good. So I also think the

(10:34):
two projects of Vonn and Beckton. I mean this Eagle team, listen,
they just came up with huge plays today. They forced
a couple fumbles. Obviously, the saquon runs huge benefit. And
this is why winning regular season games matter. This is
why the NFL's king because it's not just the playoffs
that matter. This isn't baseball or basketball. The regular season

(10:55):
really matters because home field is everything. This is a
one game scenario. It's a huge advantage to have a
home game. Obviously, the weather played a major part, and
I give a lot of credit to the Rams think
how much we make fun of Mike McDaniel, who has
this team down in Miami, that they go to anywhere
under fifty degrees. They got no chance. Everyone will tell

(11:16):
you bet the fucking mortgage on them to lose. Why
because they always lose. It's not about playing in the warmth,
because the Rams are a warm weather team seventy five
degrees in Los Angeles right now. It's about how you
build your team, and the Miami Dolphins are just consistently
poorly built, right The LA Rams build their team tough

(11:37):
and physical. You create your culture, not by a message
by Sean McVay, by the tight people you put in
your locker room. And that's what Jared Verse. I know
Braden Fisk got injured today, But like those guys, their
skill set translates to Alaska, to Miami, to Seattle to Dallas.
They could play on the fucking moon and that works

(11:59):
no different. JAYL.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Carter.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Last time I checked, Jalen Carter's from Georgia went to Georgia.
Didn't exactly play it Michigan or Oregon. He can play anywhere.
Physical players translate twhy Kyle went on the road. A
couple of years ago to Green Bay and freezing cold
and won a game to why the La Rams today
went in a frigid conditions snow. The only guy in

(12:22):
short sleeves was Big Dom. Even Sean mcvayh wasn't wearing
some big ass puffy jacket, had on a pullover. Now,
he probably had a little thermal under but like show
him like we're here for the cold baby and Stafford, who,
let's face it, some question marks with you know, his
resume in cold weather. I thought, given the everything going on,
was pretty damn good today, you know, and gave him

(12:45):
a chance down the stretch. So congratulation the Eagles. Very
impressive day by the Rams. I mean, it felt like
this could be like one of mcveigh's finest moments if
he were to win this game and they showed up
to win. And you talk about a coach the way
that Tomlin still talked about like McVeigh. McVeigh is the

(13:08):
ten year ago Tomlin, His leadership, the way he builds
his team, how tough his team is, how they can
translate and play anywhere, how they can handle, you know,
the most the worst tragedy historically like the fire down
in LA and be able to pick up take the family,
move kick ass in the game. Still deal with that

(13:29):
when they come back, go to Philly in a snowstorm,
boom be right in the game. McVeagh is so fucking
good it's crazy. How good of a coach he is.
It really is. I mean, man for man, we do
this a lot in college football. And there's obviously a
college football game tomorrow, and that there's a reason Notre
Dame is a big underdog because Ohio State is a

(13:50):
much better roster and in football, the one like, if
you have a much better roster than me in baseball
or basketball, more than likely I'm gonna lose. Doesn't matter
who the manager is, doesn't matter who the basketball coach is.
I'm at such a disadvantage. I'm probably screwed. In football,
That's just not the case, and it never will be
the case because coaching is so important. And Sean mcvagh,

(14:12):
I mean, think of what he did this offseason, hiring
his buddy, Don Shula's grandson Chris, who I thought was
fantastic today. The only mistake he made is deep in
the goal line at the end of the first half,
ran a blitz and they hit Saquon on a screen
and he got a first down. It would have been
a good spot to get the ball back. Maybe they
would have got some points. But overall, I'm so impressed

(14:36):
with the Rams and Sean McVay in the operation. I mean,
they finally get a first round pick and they draft
Jared Vers, who looks like Khalil Mack two point zero.
Like that physicality and that power is going to translate.
I know, he only had four and a half sacks
this year, so did Khalil Mack as a rookie. Two
years later, he was the defensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's what you watch.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
You watch Jared Verse today, You're like, this guy has
defensive player of the year type upside. You know, fist
got injured, but and listen, they missed him as the
game went on, especially against the run. That was you know,
Kerwin Williams is gonna struggle to sleep at night that
that fumble was big. I mean, and they got pretty
lucky that Lane Johnson jumped off sides because probably should

(15:21):
have scored a touchdown there. But man, fantastic win by
the Eagles today was an organizational win. That was an
organizational win by Philadelphia. It really was, and how he
had his And I'm not just saying. I mean the
guy once upon time fired me. So it's not like
I'm just like in the bag for the guy. But
Saquon Barkley for cheap draft, Jalen Carter when everyone else

(15:43):
was terrified, Bond Beckton Man obviously higher, Vic Fangio, who
got those guys playing at a much much higher level.
You know, it's funny everyone is like crushing Kellen Moore.
I see this a lot on the Internet, and I
try not to pay too much attention. I mean, you
can find whatever you're looking for of people with opinions

(16:05):
on the internet. But when your quarterback struggles to throw
from within the pocket, there are only so many passing
play calls that you can make and make everyone look good.
Like he's calling plays and the guy either pass the.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Ball, holds the ball like.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
It's not easy to call pass plays when he's playing
like that at quarterback, he struggles to pull the trigger.
It's just you just you could argue just call run
plays every single time. And obviously your run game struggles
because Jalen plays a part in it when he dings
up his knee. But at the end of the day,

(16:39):
you're in the NFC Championship game, you're hosting the game
in Philadelphia. You have such a talent discrepancy against Washington
that there is zero excuse to not be in the
Super Bowl. And I'm recording this before Buffalo Ravens, but
obviously you're gonna be playing one of those.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Two teams or the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
And listen, I would say the Eagles. You know, if
Jalen can get healthy, just because of the talent on
their team, has a chance to beat anyone.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
We saw him play the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
We obviously saw him play the Steelers they won as well,
So listen, I think the Eagles. The talent on that team,
man is just is truly crazy to watch as a
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Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, back with my main man, intern Jackson, who I
get more DMS than are like, I like this guy,
this guy might have a future. I'm like, yeah, you know.
I ran into him, met him originally at a golf
course and he was wearing me out about his football
takes on the driving range and I was just trying
to get some fresh air and I was like, I
think there might be something there. So now his teams

(19:24):
in the National Championship, He's living in old town Scottsdale
a lot. Life's pretty good for the young man.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, life's not too bad. Apology, he's wearing.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Out for the football takes, but I guess it ended
up paying out later on. But no, I'm excited, man,
Monday will be a fun And I was talking to
my buddy the other day because obviously, you know, being
a Notre Dame fan myself, but I'm a realistic Notre
Name fan when you've got to talk about the sport
at the same time, I.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Understand it's gonna take a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's gonna be a miracle for Notre Name to win
against Ohio State. But for them, the CFP run they've had.
Now you look at Marcus Freeman kind of the face
of college football the last couple of month.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It's always so funny.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
They always I see so many questions for Marcus Freeman
in Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Oh, what's it like facing your alma mater. This is
the third time.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
That he's gonna face Ohio State in the last two years,
two three years, So I don't think it's a big deal.
His first game as a Notre Dame coach was at
Ohio State. They got blown out, So I think there's
gonna be a lot I was looking priving for this.
What does Notre Dame have to do? What does Ohio
State have to do? The list for Notre Dame is
much longer than Ohio State. It's definitely a David versk Eliath.

(20:30):
But when you look at this matchup, what sticks out
to you just early thoughts Notre name last?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think really quick.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
What's funny about that is obviously when you're at the
school as a as a kid or player, I mean
you are as a as a player, you're also a
kid because you're nineteen twenty years old. As a guy,
it means a lot to you. So like when Marcus
Freeman was playing at Ohio State. Ohio State meant everything
to him. When Kirby Smart at the time was playing
at Georgia meant everything to him. And then you start

(20:57):
making huge money too as Kirby was running the defense
at Alabama, or Marcus Freeman becomes the head coach at
Notre Dame. That kind of becomes your life. And you'll
learn this as you get older, you become numb to
some younger things at the time you felt were everything,
and you look back like, there's a chance that Marcus

(21:19):
Freeman once upon, you know, moving forward, if Ryan Day
was ever fired and they offered him the job, would
turn it down. Roy Williams did this for a long
time back when I was growing up, coaching at Kansas
for North Carolina. Now he eventually took the job. But
like you know, they say, be where your feet are.
It's easy to make that transition. Like if Marcus Freeman

(21:40):
was the head coach right now at Fresno State or
you know, UTSA or Texas Tech, Like, yeah, he would
aspire to get to Iowa State. What the fuck's the
difference of the two to him? And I mean he's
already being talked about as an NFL coach, so like
that moment. I mean, that's fifty, he's thirty eight years old.
I mean he left college when he was twenty one
years old. He's been away just as long as he

(22:04):
was alive before he got to Ohio State. So I
I think sometimes people on the outside make a bigger
deal of it than like they think, Oh, he's just
probably both bsing now. I think truly he's probably pretty
numb to it. Not that he doesn't like hold that
time in high esteem of changing his life. It led
him to the NFL, you know, meeting fickle Ohio State

(22:26):
guy that he went to work for in Cincinnati, and
that really put him on the map, right being the
DC there. That's how Brian Kelly found him. But I
just think I think it gets overblown sometimes, you know
in college and I think you see a lot in
the SEC with guys.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I mean Steve spur coach or.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Played at Florida right way back in the day, like
the fifties or sixties. He then left for the Washington Yeah,
and then resurrected South Carolina. At the time he was
coach of South Carolina, it was pretty clear he was
all in South Carolina and he was in at the
you know, when they had East and West in the SEC.
He's played Florida every year, but it's like, it's not
like I like Florida more than I don't know the
team I coach. So he's uh, I've really listen. I

(23:10):
didn't know that much about him and then you lose
the Marshall. I think Marcus Freeman is the biggest winner of.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
This football season.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
I think Ryan Day has settled everything and you know,
brought his credibility back after the Michigan.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Lost with these three weeks.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
But I think just the overall winner of like, this
guy's kind of a star, you know, and if you
look at the EBB and flow of guys, you know, Kirby,
he's already won national championships. I know he loses in
the first round, but it doesn't change the way people
think about him. I would say Dabo's star is dimmed
a little bit, given like how dominant he once was.
Lincoln's fallen off a cliff, you would say Marcus Freeman

(23:44):
of just like the coaching rankings, I think given what
the run Kirby's on, I think most people would put
him as the number one coach in college football.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Obviously, if Marcus were to win this game, you couldn't
put Ryan Day ahead of him. But I would say
Marcus Freeman right now is like a top three or
four coach in college football. So and you know better
than me. But over the last decade, it's hard to
compare because Brian Kelly a lot of his run was
early on, right when they played Alabama, there was no

(24:16):
Final four.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
He just went to the National championship and he.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Went to the Final four. How many times they go
to the playoffs with Brian Kelly once.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Twice, twice? Yeah, they walked to Alabama and then Clemson.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah yeah, So they lost those games and were overmatched
right in those moments. So to go be Georgia like
he did, and then to follow that up with the
Penn State win when he was kind of getting worked,
that's as good of a two week stretch as Brian
Kelly ever had, right.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I saw his comments yesterday. I think he talked about
Notre Dame and how there was a quote that was saying, oh,
Brian Kelly's gonna root for Notre Dame for the National championship,
and how he said, he said, quote something I would go.
I didn't leave Notre Dame because I couldn't win a
national championship. I went to get another opportunity. It's like, okay, bullshit, buddy,
you said that you left Notre Name because you thought

(25:06):
you couldn't win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
There you went and go took a bag. And I
also like, that's.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
One thing about Brian Kelly that never worked out with
Notre Name, and that Marcus Freeman's working out with Notre
Name is because he's more players first, and maybe Brian
Kelly is behind the scenes, but it seems like out
in public it's always me, me, me III. And he
talked about how he's rooting for the players. That quote
I recruited is what Brian Kelly said. In that quote,

(25:30):
I just it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
And maybe, yeah, there's some guys on that team that
you recruited that are six year, seventh year, fifth year seniors.
But if you watch Notre Name, majority of their playmakers
are guys that Marcus has brought in.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
To me.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Brian Kelly's had an incredible career coaching. This LSU stint
has not gone well, but before that his rise. When
I was at Fresno State, we played the Cincinnati team
that went to the BCS with Tony Pike was the quarterback,
and that was the year that he left before the
game to go to Notre Dame and that team was undefeated,
and that's when he really kind of became a star.

(26:08):
And then obviously going to Notre Dame. But like he was,
he was a real high end coach. But most people
hate him because they just think he's a royal scumback
the scissor lift thing. I remember being in college and
we had like a Janki thing at Fresno State. The
wins weren't as crazy. I honestly shocked more people didn't
fall over over the years. I don't you know what

(26:29):
I'm talking about, the filming guy that fell with the
crazy wins. I honestly it was like his first year
at Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think a guy, I think guy died.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
But and then ever since, people just wanted to hate
him the way he left Cincinnati that moment, and clearly
he can just be kind of pompous and arrogant, and
there's just more of a and obviously there's an age gap,
but just feels like Marcus Freeman's pretty normal cat, like
most people could have a conversation with a guy, and
I'm with you, I totally disagree of like rooting for

(27:01):
I mean, marks Freeman wins it, basically, I don't want
to say invalidates Brian Kelly's run, but it no one
will ever discuss Brian Kelly again.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
It'll it'll almost be viewed as.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Hey, he couldn't. He was good, but couldn't quite get
him over the hump, even though he did kind of
resurrect the program. I mean it was it was in
bad shape when he got there. But it does feel
like Marcus Freeman if he were to win this game, hell,
even just being in this game, because I got a
DM the other day that said, how does Brian Kelly,

(27:30):
how do we talk any different about Brian Kelly? If
Marcus Freeman gets his ass kicked in this game like
Brian Kelly got him to this game, I'm like, well,
it's not exactly apples to apples, because the one time
he played Alabama.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Got blown out.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
There wasn't a twelve team playoffs, so he never he
just played his schedule and then got to that game
and got killed like I saw Brian or I saw
Marcus Freeman play Georgia, which would almost be equivalent of
the Alabama or a Clemson game, and go toe to
toe with them, and then seven days later played Penn State,
who I think it's fair to say top to bottom
has more talent currently on the roster and beat him.

(28:04):
Because so it's like, I don't know. I think those
two victories you know better than me. But does he
did Brian Kelly have a better win in his tenure
than the Georgia win.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
No, I'm trying to even think of wins maybe at
home against a top five ranked opponent. I can't even
think because two when Marcus' first year, he beat a
top five Clemson at home when they had Dju which,
at the time, not looking back, not a great quarterback,
but during the time they were undefeated Clemson coming in
and it was a big win for Notre Name, especially

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after losing those first two Ohio State, Marshall.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I can't I can't think of one.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
And for them, You're right, like Marcus Freeman's killed the
narrative that Notre Dame can't win the big one. I'm
even having friends texting me like, I kind of like
Notre Name now with Marcus Freeman as they head for they.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Now he's a little like Duke basketball, where most people
had like a strong opinion, and let's face it, if
you weren't like a Duke fan, a lot of people
just naturally hate him. And that's what I always felt.
Notre Dame was like, I think the Cowboys are like this,
the Lakers are like this.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
The Yankees are like this.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
They feel pretty likable. Like honestly in that game, I
had money on Penn State. But it's like, I get
why people are like, he's this James Franklin guy. Marcus
is just much. He made Notre Dame likable, which I
bet if you ask someone like fifty or older, they'd
be like, that's unheard of. That's people like Notre Dame
just a casual fan. I think most people are gonna
be rooting for him. I think the scary thing is,

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regardless of the outcome of this game, is I think
he's kind of on the radar of NFL teams because
he was an NFL player and he clearly is a
fantastic leader. He kind of has like a Hardbob brother Tomlin,
Pete Carroll a little happier, you know, kind of vibe
to him, just like a natural leader, just kind of
a stud.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And he's so young.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean, you could still have him for five more years.
But I wonder, man, if these teams are gonna keep
stipping around. Maybe he's got what's having kids. He's a
fascinating individual. Yeah, really he really is. Like he just
converted the Catholicism this past year.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
They go to mass more.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
But to your point about Marcus Freeman, it's unreal about
this Notre Dame team because it seemed like, and before
the season start, talked about it, how the biggest part
making a way to the CFP sixteen games is that depth.
It just seems like every single time they have someone
get hurt, someone comes in and they continue to win.
That's my biggest issue, my biggest worry with Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
In this game. For Ohio State, it's going to be
the edges.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
The left tackle Nap who was a freshman All American,
a guy that replaces Charles Jackasaw, which is kind of
a full circle moment because charleis Jackasaw. He's a red
shirt freshman, red shirt sophomore. Left tackle is supposed to
be the Joe All two point zero tars Is pack.
During fall camp, they start a true freshman, he balls
out the entire season, becomes an All American. He gets
hurt against Penn State, He's not playing against Ohio State.

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So if Jackasaw plays, he's supposed to start out left tackle.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
He's supposed to.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
And I'd feel more comfortable him, But that all depends
on the right guard because he got hurt during that
game too. So if the right guard Roco plays, then
he'll be at the left tackle position. But if he doesn't,
then he's going to be at the guard position and
Tosh Baker's at the left, so a lot of movement there.
For Notre Dame, I'm worried about the edge protection because
Sawyer and JTT, two guys that are supposed to be

(31:23):
first round picks, they've.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Been dud the entire season.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
During the playoff, I looked up they've got ten combined
sacks in three games. So that to me is if
I'm a Notre Dame fan, would be my biggest concern.
And you hope that jackas Saw were to play, because
everything I've heard is they don't want to play Tosh Baker,
even though.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
He's six ' eighties.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
That left tackle he struggled, I mean, Abdul Carter with
one arm was absurd that whole first half.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And then he got hitting the shoulder and didn't play
much in the second. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I think whether he had the shot of tour draowl
or whatever I think coming when the game started, I
think he felt completely fine, and the moment that he
had that rush where he got slammed on it, he
was never the same. I would imagine whatever his actual
injury was, the pain that went on that. But those guys,
like you said, Sawyer first round. I actually text a

(32:10):
buddy who's a college director for an NFL team. He thought,
you know, he's not a he's like third fourth. But
again he's gonna be. He's gonna play in the NFL
for a long time. But he can have moments if
you're an unathletic tackle like the play that basically ended
the Texas Ohio State game. He just smoked that dude,
and you could tell the guy who's kind.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Of bending over.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
And I mean Texas is rolling out NFL guys too,
So it's just it can be a tough matchup.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Big picture, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I mean, you got all these guys, like I would
imagine once you're gonna be your left one. It's gonna
be a right tackle. Next year you have life coming back.
I mean, you're gonna have probably he should have like
a top two or three rushing attack in all the
country next year. But that who cares about that for
this game? So yeah, I would say that one thing.
Ohio State, obviously they kicked the shit out of the

(32:57):
Oregon and Tennessee. They got into kind of like a
heavyweight brawl that you guys have been playing in these
last two games and they have haven't played in that
after the Michigan loss in the playoffs so far, and
they went toe to toe and they kind of relish
that moment. And that's the scary thing, Like we know
they can score. The good thing is your guys defense
is so good. You know, I think you can copy

(33:19):
a little bit of what they did with Jeremiah Smith.
You know, Texas defense is elite too. I mean, all
four of these defenses right in the playoffs are really
really good. So if you can just slow him down,
it just slows down their offense a little bit. I'm
tempted to take Notre Dame as just you know, a
flyer money line, because the way that they could win

(33:42):
this game is it kind of like Texas had the chance.
You got to slow down the game, and you just
got to slow down their offense a little bit and.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Just keep it low scoring.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
If Ohio State's getting above thirty, you're losing probably by
ten plus and they're gonna cover. If you can just
have it be like, Okay, it's fourteen to fourteen in
the third quarter. You got to play it like Kyle
Shannon and Jimmy Garoppolo style. We're not trying to score
thirty points. We have no problem winning the game with
seventeen to twenty one. But we are gonna slow down
the possessions and run the ball. And that's where I

(34:10):
think Jeremiah love playing. You know, as the game went on,
he got a little bit. It felt like a little
more fluid because when right when they came to Marcus Freeman,
you know, like the stupid ten second pregame interview, He's like, Eh,
see what he's got. I was like, I don't think
he's got anything. And then as the game went on,
it felt like he loosened up. Now he's got an
extra that's a lot of time between games, right, ten

(34:32):
plus days. So if he's just what do you think
he was that game? Seventy percent? If he's sixty five,
he wasn't close to one hundred. So now if he's just,
if he's an you add another ten to fifteen percent
of what he was, maybe gets to eighty five ninety
and just feels a little more fluid because to play
in that game alone, he had to be well over

(34:52):
fifty percent. And then now he's got a bunch more time,
he can just keep rehabbing that knee. If he could
be like ninety percent, just.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Need a good rushing attack.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
But if it's if it g's if your defense doesn't.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Play well, you got no shot.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Right, No, I think they've got it. That's my other
issue I have too, is Kate Tron Allen, Nicholas Singleton
rush for two hundred yards plus. That's the first time
this season they've really seen a two back system like
that in Ohio. State's probably better with Henderson and Judkins.
But to your point earlier about you know, I guess
the offensive line and Notre Dame offense.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's one thing where I start Keshan.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
They kept it a close game, they kept an ugly game,
but it was like that red zone blunder with Star
Keshon where he's like, I like to throw the ball
like you mentioned, but they're gonna they're gonna run up
the middle with the third string running back.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
To den Brock's credit, he doesn't seem like a guy.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's gonna do something like that if it's in the
red zone and put his team in a blunder where
I know Texas is talent wise, offensive line wise, they've
got more flashy dudes that'll be top ten first round picks.
But I feel like Notre Dame as a whole, as
a unit is one of the best rushing offenses. And
if they can have Jeremiah Love and the last game
of the season, he's gonna probably play ninety percent. I

(36:03):
would assume that he gets twenty carries because when he
was on the field for that Penn State game, he
had two back to back carries it was like eight
yards and ten yards, and it felt like, you're right,
he was seventy percent and then he hurdles a guy
and you're like, Okay, well, maybe he's one hundred percent.
I'm not sure the adrenalin left factor goes in left leg. Yeah, yeah,
his left leg is one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
But I don't know. I I think you're right. I
think it's gotta be one of those ugly games.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I'm worried though, because they've got a young secondary with
notre name, and they play a lot of man defense,
and I know that Texas played a lot of zone
and a lot of stuff back. Do you think they
kind of play more towards their strengths man defense and
just say, hey, we got two corners that are really young,
we're gonna we're gonna bank on the fact that they
can beat Jeremiah Smith maybe pressure Will Howard. Do you

(36:47):
think they're gonna just sit back kind of what Texas
did and keep everything in front.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well, I think the one thing Texas had been getting
smoked when they were in one on one situations in
the first two rounds, right, I mean, club Nick and
those fresh receivers or the one freshman receiver was destroying them.
And then the way ASU came storming back because they
hit some big plays. I mean, shit, Skataboo had, you know,
like a Peyton Manning level bomb where the guy was

(37:12):
just in a one on one situation. Skataboo was like
he even said after the game, I just I was
gonna give my guy a shot, and I think they
flipped it around, like we're not gonna be in that
with these guys because we got no shots. So they
were like dropping linebackers. They were they were keeping everything
behind him and having a guy underneath. I would imagine
that you got to implement some of that now, Like
you said, do they feel better like our guys just

(37:34):
as an athletic. I don't think you can treat Jeremiah
Smith just one on one. The problem in Texas had
this issue is they did an incredible job on them, right,
Like if that was if they had won the game,
the star of the game would have been the defensive
coordinator in the game plan against the passing game. But Tate,
I mean, when you're a third wide receiver, and this

(37:54):
is what Ohio State has in the bag, Like their
third wide receiver in any given game could have one
hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty yards and you
could throw them the ball fifteen times, right, and he
could score multiple touchdowns. So it's like, yeah, you can
stop the other two guys, but the other guy can
go nuts. Penn State.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I don't know enough. I'd have to text like NFL
people to know. Maybe they got some.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Underclassmen, like how elite their prospects are. But their offensive
line clearly is really good. I mean last year their
left tackle got drafted the Jets' top twelve pick. I
mean they aren't just recruiting the pass rushers and running backs, right,
I mean their offensive liner is good. Ohio States is not.
I mean, if you think about the big Henderson play

(38:35):
in that game, it was a screen pass, which if
I was gonna defend Texas on that, it's like end
a half. You don't want them to hit a bomb
or getting a field goal range. I think they got
a little too soft, and all of a sudden he
had running room and all he had to do was
make a guy miss. And he's probably I don't know
what his forty is, but it's probably closer to four
to three flat than it is four or five flat.

(38:56):
So that guy can fly, and I just they have
struggled running the ball. So if you guys put them
in a pass only situation and can just somewhat slow
down Jeremiah Smith. Again, that's the that's the that's the formula,
and to me, it's it's either Ohio State blowout like that.

(39:18):
There is no scenario where Notre Dame to me, wins
this game by unless there's like seven guys break legs
by a lot. They would have to win in a
crazy close game or Ohio State blows you out. I
have a hard time seeing even Ohio State win close.
I either see I either see like a twenty point
Ohio State victory.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I wouldn't go like.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Georgia TCU because obviously, you know, but like the version
of like god this we peaked in the second, you know,
in the final four, or like Notre Dame can win
it close, and they've just won two close games and
that wasn't that Marcus Freeman's thing, like we think we
can win the close game, Like we just keep this
thing close, we'll win it.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I think that's one thing for them is they've capitalized
off of turnovers and mistakes and situationally wise, I've thought
recently they've done a good job either third down, four
it down or in the red zone, which I guess
against a team like that, I mean, I told you before,
Like I looked all the stuff that Notre Dame has
to do, there's.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like fifteen things that they got to do to win
Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
It's like, don't fuck it up, don't turn the ball over,
don't give them opportunity. So that was the one thing
that kept Texas in the game was all those fifteen
yard penalties they'd have on second and third down. And
then you look at Ohio State having Will Howard to
make a play on third and twenty third and twenty five, Like,
that's what kind of kept Texas in that game. So
if Ohio State does that again, Like I had a
friend talk to me about Ohio State's interior offensive line.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
They're like, well, you know they've got injuries in the interior.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
It's like, well yeah, but during that Texas game, they
look they've looked like the past couple of weeks, it
was like the biggest knock on Notre Dame beginning of
the season that they had an inexperienced offensive line. Now
you look sixteen weeks, their offensive line's got experience. It
seems like Ohio State's offensive line has adapted to their
injuries the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Well, when you're in Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I mean, even if your backups aren't what they once were,
your backup is still If your backups all hit the
transfer portal, like Fresno State and San Diego State are
not signing them, right, I mean Wisconsin would die to
have them, let alone, you know, Belichick and Florida State.
I mean, the top teams would all be over their backups.

(41:25):
So yeah, their backups might not be good of the
starter because the starter might be pick twenty eight in
the NFL Draft, But if you let the backup start
for two years, more likely at worst he's probably like
a fourth round pick. So, I mean, Ohio State has
the best roster in the country for a reason. They've
had some injuries, but and they've peaked at the right time.

(41:45):
And listen, I actually think Texas is good, Like their
defense is big time right and their offensive quinn Ewers
could just play okay, which he was kind of You
kind of saw everything in that game.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
They still have.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I mean, the best four rosters or four of the
best I would say six or seven were in the
final four. And it felt that way watching the speed
and I would say the text Ohio State game felt
like a little bit different level speed wise, but part
of it was, you know, I would say Notre Dame
Penn State was a little more like ground and pound
type game.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Has your impression or I guess your evaluation on Riley
Leonard during this playoff changed at all?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Like what from him? From his perspective?

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Because you look at the top players in this game,
you probably go five to six, seven deep until you
reach a Notre Dame Notre Dame guy. But if you
say most impactful for this game, I'd say Riley Leonard
is two.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Or three just because what he can do with his
legs and his.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Unpredictability and when the pocket collapses, you think he's gonna
get sacked and he kind of rolls out of it.
What's your perspective on Riley Leonard this game? And I
guess the playoff as a whole.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Well, I think him and Will Howard are kind of
similar players, right. I think a lot of people question
like are they NFL passers?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Will Howard, I mean, throws a lot of NFL passes,
but I think a lot of people question that. I
think that's definitely the question mark with Riley and both
of them. At any moment you can run a quarterback
power and they can run for twenty yards while they
run over a guy.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Is you see Will Howard.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Because of the way they play offense, just throw more
down the field. I thought Riley Leonard had two passes
I think one to the running back on like a
wheel route that was just beautiful and another one to
the tight end on the left side that were just
two like NFL. I mean, it was the difference in
the game, like he was making passes that Drowler just
could not make and just felt like in rhythm getting

(43:51):
hits like Dan if he's gonna make throws like that,
there are teams just on a different It's like why
to me, it's why they won the game. Was a
couple of his big passes.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
So yeah, I mean, I I remember watching him with Duke.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I mean his his and this is what Mark Freeman
never shuts up about, like his competitive nature. What's crazy
is he's this massive guy, but he's got a baby face.
He looks like he's like fourteen years old, but he
he I've been impressed with this passing. Like to me,
he's definitely getting drafted higher than I thought. And I mean,
you know fourth round where I would have thought early

(44:24):
through the season like he's an undrafted free agent, but
coaches are gonna love this guy when they get involved
in the draft process, and I would put Will Howard
in this. I bet both both these two players win.
Like the coordinators and the head coaches get involved, especially
defensive head coaches, They're gonna like those two cats, They're
gonna get drafted a lot higher than anyone would have

(44:45):
thought two months ago. And I think both I would
flip a coin. I would guess from a character standpoint,
leaders they're both the same guy. One of those two
guys is gonna have a lot longer NFL career. Maybe
not a starter, but if you told me one of
those two guys like a ten year career bouncing around
as a backup, I believe, if not.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Both of them.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Yeah, those two, those two guys were projected to be
drafted lower than this next guy I'm about to.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Telling about this, like Josh Josh Dobbs is gonna have
a ten year career.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Oh yeah, two Because quarterbacks, I mean teams in the
NFL now you know too, Like they want a guy
that can move and a guy like Robby Leonard and
even Will Howard can move a little bit too. What'd
you make of our guy Carson Beck getting four million
dollars to Miami. Kudos to him, you know, him realizing

(45:36):
the leaves on the wall and say, hey, I'm not
a first round guy. I probably go second, maybe even
the second third day. Getting four million dollars off of
ucl injury, I mean he got double the amount of
money of cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
It's krudos to him, but it seems like a lot
of pressure, maybe even a desperate move for Miami.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
What was your take on that whole situation.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I think he'd be at Miami whether he had got
injured or right, like, if he had not gotten injured
and Georgia would have lost, I don't think he's Georgia's
quarterback next year.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Do you agree with that? Apparently Georgia wanted to keep him.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Apparently there was a report today that Georgia wanted him
back in twenty twenty five. And also I thought it
was interesting they said Alabama was a program that called
Carson Beck.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Which I was like, huh, that's that's kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, I do think that Debor likes more of a
pocket quarterback, so it does make sense. I think it
is a weird visual when you see him with like
the when he's meeting the offensive coordinator and I saw
some pictures and he's got the brock Purty elbow thing on.
I mean that's so he let's use brock Purty as example.
He got hurt in the NFC Championship game and he

(46:41):
was able to start Week one, so that's a lot later, right,
it's the end of January. This he gets injured when
middle of December, so you get extra time. He's gonna
be ready for for week one, but spring practice he
is not gonna be at least if I'm just basing.
We don't know for a fact, because in college it's

(47:02):
it's kind of weird the.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Way it gets reported.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
We don't know exactly what a surgery is, but I
think it's pretty clear we can assume he had the
same injury.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Elbow gets ripped, needs.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
The Tommy John quarterback thing, which is different than a
pitcher because I think your motion's a little easier and
guys can come back faster and you're not throwing all
out every single pitch like a pitcher. But if we
assume he has the same injury, spring practice is gone.
And you know, brock Purty in training camp went like

(47:31):
I remember, he kind of eased in and then he'd
go like a day on two days off. They started
going two days off like it was.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It wasn't just.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Like their team isn't that good, like their relative to Georgia.
So he's going to a worst team with no defense.
Like I think, given the money, you could go like
eight wins, and I think given what they're paying, it
could just get really weird and ugly. And I think
there's gonna be a pressure on Mario. It's like, what's
going on here? We're paying all this money to all
these people.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
We just had a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
That is way better than Carson, right, Kim Ward. I
don't know if he's a number one overall lock pick,
but he's a top five or ten pick for sure,
and he's way more talented. We get him a bunch
of money and he carried us. So how are you
going to build up the team in six months to
be way better because this guy can't really carry you.

(48:25):
I don't know, man, I think I see way more
scenarios for this to go bad. The one thing with
cam Ward is like he transfers. He could just start
practicing and developing a report by the time the season
started like they were. That's not the case here. And
obviously the guy's girlfriends one of the twins. So it's like,
I think there were a lot of different factors in fairness, Like,

(48:46):
I think the twins make more than four million dollars.
They are crushing it, aren't they like the nil dominate
leaders of college athletics.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Those two. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
And also it's a benefit too that they're both attractive,
which helps, and they're both dancers and stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
That's why.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Yeah, uh, but yeah, I think it's It's really interesting.
I think for Carson Beck's perspective, it's a smart move.
Whenever anyone offers you four million dollars to play another year,
where you know, Quinn you were today declared for the
NFL Draft, it's like, okay, Like Quinn have fun getting
drafted in Day three, Day four. I think the one

(49:22):
positive you could say for Carson Beck is that he's
going to a place that will probably have better receivers
than he had this year, probably a better offensive line
scheme wise that he had at Georgia versus at Miami.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And I guess to strength the schedules way less like.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
I mean, they're gonna have probably they the hardest strength
of schedule this last year at Georgia versus when he
goes to Miami, they're probably gonna be around fifty or seventy.
So I guess that's kind of a plus being the
acc and a more of an offense that benefits him
throwing the football.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
And have big numbers, I guess. But yeah, he's a scrub.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I know he was two years ago when he had
Bowers mcakey.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
He was exactly. He's a solid.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
He's not as bad as he was this year. But
I do think when you factor in the injury, when
you factor in the team, he's going to Like you said,
it's an easier schedule. But they had they might have
the number one overall quarterback this year in a good offense,
and they were in. I felt like every game they
were in it was a tight game and that guy
was his ass like and Carson doesn't quite have that
physical ability.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I give him credit.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
He one towards the UCL Even if he would have
got drafted, he would have got drafted on the six
or seventh round. You take the four million dollars, I
would say the same thing to Quinn yours, like you
are no lock to go any higher than I would
say the fourth round, you know, like day three, So
did you have offers at two, three, four million, which
I would guess he would like, you're crazy not to

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take that. Now, he's he was an unconventional from the start, right,
didn't he skip like a senior year in high school
and like reclassified, went to Ahiuse State. So he's had
a kind of a He was one of the leaders
in the nil lawsuits, so he's I think he's beats
to his own drum that way, which I'm not like,
I'm all four, but I just think that, man, if
you could have got three million dollars like your NFL

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career could end fast.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I haven't met a kid that took a year off
of high school and left a year like you know
they say, oh, I'm gonna forego my senior year and
go a year early. I don't remember a quarterback specifically
that's turned out well from doing that.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I remember JT.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Daniels when he came out of college or came out
of high school. He's like the number one quarterback in
the country. Forego to senior year, and then just became
one of those guys that went to USC than Georgia
and then West Virginia than Rice. Like that was the
same thing for Quinn Ewers when he was quote the
greatest quarterback recruit that was his title out of high school.
And then just to kind of see the way things
are going, You're right, like he could have got I

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saw rumors of Oregon, Ohio, State, North Carolina, Notre Dame,
Alabama all looking at him for three million dollars. And
he's healthy. That's one thing about him versus Cars and Beck.
It's like Beck's got that injury. And you could argue,
I mean, who do you think had a better year?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Beck or Youwers yours?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, I mean he would have definitely got three or
any factor. And like his elbow works right now and
he can practice in the spring. If listen, you do
what you want to do. I hate, I can't even
you couldn't put a gun to my head and force
me to go to a class, like I mean, so
not saying that these guys are actually going to class,
but if they do have to get a minimum go
to a class or two a week, I understand. Never

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wanting to look at a professor. Again, but if I
assume that, you know, they don't really have to go
to class. If he had three million dollars on the
table and I was advising him, I would have advised to,
you know, pick whatever the best program you want to
go to of your options and take that money. When
you think big picture, I think there is I would

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I would say if I was a betting man, he's
more likely to be in and out of the NFL
fast than have a longer career, and especially once you
like if he goes in the fourth, fifth, sixth round,
you know, part of the reason the guy like Mariota
or Carson Wentz you look at some of the backups
right now can stick around a little longer and way
Carson Wentze, even when you're a really high pick, he
gets some extra chances over the course of your life,

(53:04):
like Mariota's gonna have like a fifteen year career. It's
like you're not a very good player, but it doesn't
matter because like high pedigree, obviously high character and stuff.
But when you're a mid round pick, it's there's a
huge element of like out of your control luck involved,
you know, like a Chase Danuel having a fourteen year
career as an undrafted free agent is pretty unheard of
a quarterback for a guy that never starts, you know,

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you see a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick or whatever. I
think fitz might have been a seventh round pick, but
he got to start for a long time. When you're
just a lifetime backup, it's harder.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Aj mccerrn's one of those guys. I think, like a
late round pick that plays a backup for a long time.
Most of those guys get washed out faster and they stay.
Like it's a small percentage of guys that stay, because
most of the guys that stay are like Jimmy Garoppolo
is the.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Second round pick. He's gonna be a backup for another
three or four years, even.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Though he might just be just as good as some
of the guys that are like fifth round picks. They
just get the benefit of doubt because they got to
start a little bit or higher pedigree guy. So if
you tell me right now, quinn Ewers ends up being
a fifth round pick and maybe ends up going higher,
I would doubt it. But even if he just goes
fourth round pick third day, there was just no you
don't get the benefit of the doubt if like immediately

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you don't look good in preseason, you're just holding on
for dear life from the jump where it's easier as
like a guard or a linebacker, because like you can
play special teams, right, so many other guys get hurt
like a quarterback. If you're on the practice squad. There's
jesus a chance you could stay on the practice squad
for a couple of years, which again doesn't suck, but
you make I think it's ten twelve. You make like

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one hundred and eighty grand.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
I think quinn Ewers' mom's on payroll for him too,
which is also another reason why it's like, hey, you
get offered three million dollars, why not help your mom
out a little bit too? Is on that payroll. I
was gonna ask you because you mentioned him in a
fifth wrong guy. Is there any way for him to
boost up his stock through this NFL comm Pro.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Day, Like, like, what do you call it? I guess
draft workouts and stuff that he's gonna go through.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
I think the Senior Bowl is now allowed to take underclassmen.
If that's true, he should one hundred percent play in
the Senior Bowl. Like if he's allowed to play in
the All Star Game, which I'm pretty sure they changed
that rule within the last year or two, he should
go to the Senior Bowl and participate, which I would
guess he would, and he would be one of the
I mean, if you told me Quinn you weres win
the Senior Bowl, he'd be one of the biggest names

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there for sure, And that's part of being a quarterback.
But like, I didn't know, it's you know, like like
the models on Joe Burrow's payroll, like similar thing. Did
you see that the girl that saved his house from
getting robbed?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Oh my gosh, said she's an employee of his.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
That's a whole weird situation. She's I think she's by too,
So I don't know. I mean that kudos to Joe Burrow.
If you've got enough money to have a smoking hot
model as you're made.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
You never know, you know, these guys, these guys are
living well.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
A speaking of a guy living worldway now in the
whole deon Sanders Colorado Cowboys thing. We talked about it before,
and I kind of want to bring it up from
the college perspective. Are you a little hesitant. Are you
a little scared if you're Colorado side where every single
job offer that comes to be Deon Sanders name is
brought up? Or is it kind of one of those

(56:32):
things where you knew heading in Deon Sanders big name,
you knew him the success he brought to Colorado. It's
like what you mentioned earlier about Marcus Freeman. It's like, yeah,
when your team does well, when your team becomes better
than expected, your three year in the National Championship, it
is prone or you have an opportunity that Marcus Freeman
will move on and get other opportunities and get other interviews,

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whether it's bigger colleges or or other NFL teams.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
What's your college perspective?

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I guess on the whole Sanders Colorado Cowboys thing, yeah,
I think if you're Colorado, you just it's good publicity
at this point in time.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I mean, he resurrected your program. Part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Also, if you want to be a real program, like
your team, your guy is gonna get rumored. I mean,
Notre Dame for ten years, Brian Keller's getting rumored for
NFL jobs. So it's like Kirby Smart every year people
like would someone come after him sabing forever let alone?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Like could Texas steel him?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
And NFL people sniffing around just Lincoln Riley forever. That
means that's a good problem to have, So I think
they have no issue to complain. And my guests, uh,
maybe by the time someone listened to this, he's taking
the cowboy job.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I saw my guy I used to work with Lewis
Riddick with the Eagles, and he's good buddies with Dion.
He played with Dion with the Falcons, and he said
that he thought there was no chance of it happening
because Dion's such an out and like, you know, you
work for the cowboys, like ultimately you do answer to
Jerry where Dion answers college jobs, like if if you're

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at a top job making premium money like Dabo Kirby,
even Ryan Day, you know, Harbaugh forever, Sabin definitely sark Now,
James Franklin, Like they're not really answering to anybody. There
isn't like an owner that cuts their check. So I
think if you like doing that, and Dion clearly likes,

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there's an element and I think we'll truly find out.
I mean, his children coaching your kids pretty fucking cool?
You know now that like, does he truly care about
all these other guys because Travis was basically like his son, right,
So now he's coaching people that aren't he didn't grow
up knowing coaching his own children.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Does he love?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
And it does feel like he likes that element of
it where he knows, like thirty three year old ain't
coming to you for life lessons. So I think, Dion,
I do you think Jerry's going to be interested in?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
But I mean, are we a year from him being
the Florida State head coach? Are we a year away
from him being the Florida coach?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Right? You know if dabbling Clemson? What whatever break up?
I mean these schools you.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
See, Clemson just stole Penn State's defensive coordinator, Tom Allen,
the Indiana guy, So it just shows yeah, oh Clemson,
they're kind of falling behind, like, well, I don't know,
I don't think so these schools care deeply. So to me,
Dion's another eight plus win year away.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Like if he went eight and.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Four this year, I think all those SEC teams, any
team that needed a guy would come right to Deon
because he can recruit in recruiting now, like they have
the nil money. It's like everyone's offering a kid three
four hundred grand. It's like, who do I actually want
to play for?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
If I fell all the money for our top guys,
and clearly Dion, you probably follow recruiting closer to me.
But he's landed some big time dudes since he's been
in Colorado that definitely had financial offers from like SEC
and Big ten schools and like Clemson in Florida State.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
So yeah, the Travis quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
He clearly he had that was easy. Like looking back,
it's not as crazy as Travis went with him to
Jackson State.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Now though, can he get a guy that's like Alabama, LSU, Georgia,
Ohio State and Dion And he goes to Dion and
everyone's offering him five hundred thousand dollars And if he
starts doing that, then every team in the country would
give him ten because he's I mean, Dabble's not calm place, right,
I mean a lot of these Kirby's not. So if
you're recruiting at that level, then to me, he's he's

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an eighty ninety million dollar coach.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I mean, that's how much these guys are making, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Yeah, Dion actually stole well, he stole left tackle last year,
Jordan Seaton, who was the country.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Number seventy seven, the left hand started.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Another freshman All American, and then he stole uh Juju Lewis,
who was a longtime USC commit with Lincoln Riley, and
then the last minute he stole him over. So again
you mentioned Lincoln Riley on the downhill, just went over
there and said, Hey, I'm gonna take this quarterback out
of high school, the number one quarterback in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
So they've got him next year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
I do think it is kind of weird watching Deon Sanders,
like I saw his little first meeting without his sons.
It is a little weird, I mean, because you're so
used to that in the last couple of years. We've
seen this run of him the last four seasons. I
think it will be interesting though, You're right, like, will
he without his sons? Will he like coaching in college?
Will he like coaching there? Is he going to move

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his way up? I think it's an interesting perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
But it was just it was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Three of them, right, It was chadeor Shiloh and Travis
so his he always had one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
They were always there were always clips of him going on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Like rich Eisen and Travis would be in his in
his office stealing a pair of shoes like that's it
made probably the job really really fun. It was like,
I I listen to someone who lost his dad years ago,
Like I always thought that was really cool and like
a you know, like the Lebron Brony thing ain't organic.
Lebron just I don't blame Lebron used his power, Like

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the Chador thing was very organic. It's a real player.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
You know, Dion's coaching him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
He's one of the best players in the country, and
obviously Travis is too, and they've known him forever. Like
that had to just be pretty sweet. Now it's you know,
like does his relationship with these guys like you know,
Kirby and Dabbo and Nick. I think they really relished
in the relationship they had with all their elite guys
over the years, and then those guys would come back

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and I think Dion can do that for sure. And
the other thing is, and this is where the transfer
portal works in his benefit. He can Land, the star
left tackle or the next Travis Hunter that he doesn't
know growing up but like knows now through football. And
if he gets the Florida State job next year or
you know, pick an SEC job, those guys could just
go with him. If I told you he was a
Florida State coach next year, don't you think the left

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tackle would come with Dion?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, it'd be less this time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Like who knows, like how many guys? It'd be interesting,
Like if he got a sweet job in a year,
how many guys from Colorado would he actually bring player wise,
because that would be a different one. It was one
thing to bring Chador and you know Travis, they would
have came with him anywhere. But like if he got
the Florida job tomorrow, how many guys from this roster

(01:03:13):
would he bring? Obviously there'd be some, but I don't
think it would be the number in which he brought
from Jackson State to Colorado would be Like the left
tack would be a no brainer, one of the receiver,
you know, some of the guys, but it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Be like fifty, you know. Yeah, I was gonna say
maybe under twenty.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
If I had to pick a number because there's guys
in the roster where you know, they've got some good
talent obviously that they'll bring back, but they didn't lose
a ton to the NFL Draft. He doesn't have as
much ties as he did before if he were to
move to another college like you mentioned. You mentioned Clemson
them getting Tom Allen, the defensive coordinator from Penn State.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
That program.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
It's funny how Dabo was made fun of for not
using the transfer portal and in a blink of an
eye they win the acc Their quarterback looks phenomenal. Who
be a top quarterback this next year? Gar Riley looks
better as an offensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Now you've got Tom Allen, You've got a lot of
young talent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
It's kind of crazy to turn around with Dabo Sweeney
where it's like we've seen, you know, Ohio State build
up their team and bring a lot of guys in.
That's why they're in the National championship. Michigan did the
same thing, that's why they won the National Championship. Bring
in a lot of those core guys. Clemson might be
one of those teams where Dabo may be cooking something up.
What was your take on him getting Tom Allen because

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they've kind of turned things around.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yeah, right when I had to look at the guy
he fired, and it was this like short, little fat
white guy that I think it had been, like, you know,
it started like an analyst and kind of worked his
way up through the program and I think, you know,
it was one of those like Dabbo gave him a
shot and it clearly you know, I mean, he went
from Brett Vannables who had like a ten year run

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which got to be on the short list of one
of the better little peak runs in college football history
of being a coordinator for high end program and they
clearly struggled to kind of figure out the replacement. And
the guy I remember looking at him like, I don't
know if this guy's recruiting that well. And clearly their
defense just wasn't as good. Now I don't know if
some of that is as a recruiting not been as elite.

(01:05:14):
It's a harder recruit now in NIL, for sure, I
thought it was more crazy, like I how does Penn State,
Like does James Franklin not want to keep him? Like
how can I not offer more money? How can I
not offer Micah Parson's abdual Car like, we are getting
the cream of the crop here and we're competing. We
went farther in that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
I thought it was kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I haven't read anything like there was a personal blow up,
But why would you like, what the hell's the difference
if the money's the same, and it's not like, well,
he's he's from the South. He's just coaching Indiana, right,
so he he's a Midwest coaching the college the Big Ten.
Comfortable knows all that, Like, he knows all the personnel.
He's been coaching that conference now for a while. Now

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he's going to a place he doesn't know the players
or the coach. Like it's it's more of a challenge.
If Penn State wanted to keep him, they could, they
could pay him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I don't know that that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I think that was a little weird. I totally get
why where Davis Sweeney's coming from. I would have gone
after him too. But it's like, I'm sure Dabbles Sweeney
had a short list like Al Golden, Tom Allen, you
know the top most of them are like, yeah, I'm
staying I can. Why would I leave the dude at Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
State is crushing it?

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I'm sure he called like top ten coordinators in the country.
One of them said yes, A lot of them probably
said no, Man, I don't I make just much here.
He's top court, Like Penn State could pay you like
two and a half million dollars to be their defensive
coordinator to can Dabbo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But why there's got to be more to that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Yeah, and I know that Penn State will lose Abdul Carter,
but they did. They are bringing him back four or
five starters from this last so he'scruit the next Abdul
Carter exactly. And then is it is it a James
Franklin thing?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
I wonder even know how that conversation began with Tom
Allen and Dabos Sweeney, Like are they just is it
just a simple DM saying Hey, you want to come
over here to Clemson?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Are you to Penn State?

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Like that? That move was super shocking. And now for
Penn State they're about to have their third DC in
three years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
James Franklin like Dabbo ceo head coaches, but they're both
offensive guys. So it's like, you know, in theory, you
get to run definitely Venables, you know, was the head
coach of the defense there. I don't know if that's
changed since maybe James is kind of more in your
ass than we realize. Maybe it's maybe it's as simple
as that. Again, that's an underrated part about the profession

(01:07:33):
that unless you really have people inside a program or
an NFL team, it's like, yeah, these two hate each other.
I'm not saying they do, but that happens way more
than actually comes out to the public. It's like, I'm
just tired of working for this guy, don't I don't
like working for this guy, even though on its surface
like this has got to be you would say the
Penn State defensive coordinator job feels like one of the

(01:07:55):
best assistant coaching jobs in the country given the talent
that they get on a yearly basis.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I mean, hell, they've been a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Top ten program for like ten straight years with James Franklin,
and it hasn't been because of their offense. You know,
it's all their defensive guys.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
So you know, you remove Tyler Warren.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
And Saquon Barkley, I mean, you think Penn State, you
think defense. So I don't know that's maybe there's something
to be said about easier road.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
It is hard.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
You know, it's harder in the Big Ten at the top.
But that's for sure because I think Clemson would go
we're the top where Penn State. I mean, you're clearly
chasing Ohio State. And you know even a Oregon's is
always gonna have as much, if not more talent, and
Michigan should turn it around relatively quick. So maybe, I
don't know. I don't know why you'd care as a coordinator.
As long as your defense is good, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, it's interesting.
My last question for you as we wrap this one up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
When you look back the season as a whole collegeball season,
a bunch of movement.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Conference tary alignment, the twelve team.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Playoff, it seems like the sport's getting there. I mean,
there's a lot of Nixon Cranny's and a lot of
stuff that people are mad about, but it's one of
those things where you know it's year to year basis,
like let's just get through this and figure out some
what we need to fix and then go on to
the next year. If you look back on the season
as a whole, are you happy. Are you satisfied with

(01:09:17):
the college ball season? Like, what would you say is
your take on reflecting on this new season of the sport.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Well, I would say from a popularity standpoint, it's clearly
the number two sport in America. I mean, it's the
same sport as the number one one, but it just
in terms of the ratings.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
How many people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Watch the college football is massive. I mean, people were
mad about eighteen million people watching a Thursday night Penn
State Notre Dame game. It's like this on Thursday night.
You're comparing it to people like, well, it's down from
last year. Saban versus Harball. Say that again out loud,
Saban versus Harball, which is one of the better Michigan
slash Alabama too, one of the great matchups we've ever

(01:09:55):
seen at the Rose Ball on a holiday. So Thursday night,
nineteen million people watching. There will not be nineteen million
people like even coming close to watching one single NBA
game or baseball game. And we had Dodger Yankees in
the World Series. So the sports popularity, because I think
of the playoff and so many other teams involved now

(01:10:17):
and just how popular football is in general is pretty awesome.
So I think the the twelve team playoff deregionalized college
football a little bit, just made everyone kind of relevant
and I think helped out the sport. Obviously you got
to fix the seating stuff when it comes to playoffs,
but again that's you could argue the seating. People are

(01:10:38):
arguing the seating with the NFL, like is it fair
that you know a fourteen win team has to go
on the road. People are gonna complain about whatever. But
I think as a whole, people should be very, very
excited for college football, and as it's never been more lucrative.
Obviously to be a coach and as a player, it's
about as good as a guess, right, I mean you're
given random guys four or five hundred thousand dollars. I

(01:11:02):
just think it's just a great time to be involved
in college if you love college football. It feels like
a lot of people have takes and thoughts. I think
one thing to keep an eye on. It does feel
like the quarterback play this year more than questionable, Like
it doesn't feel like there's that many sweet NFL guys.

(01:11:24):
Who is gonna be that guy next year? You know,
there's no like lock of these young stars like Riola
kind of let down the hype on Arch. How's he
ever gonna live up to it? Lincoln Riley doesn't have
a quarterback. Who's Georgia's quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Oregon the what's his name? Dante Moore who started at
UCLA who's now at Oregon might be their starter. I
saw some of his teammates were hyping him up like
get ready, and maybe he is, but I think there
are a lot of question marks. That'd be my one
negative with college football is just there's a lot of
question marks at quarterback. I know they are a sweet

(01:11:58):
wide receivers, sweet pass rush, a lot of other good positions.
Obviously this year the year of the running back, Like
where are my next couple of years of Lamar Jackson's
and just Baker Mayfields and just star quarterbacks, because that's
what you say right now, Like two best teams in
the country have like mid round guys who are likable

(01:12:19):
and eat fun to watch, but neither one of them
they're gonna get their name called and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Hug Roger Goodell on the stage. That helps, no, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Know, if you think about it, like when your star
quarterbacks are on your best teams, you know, Alabama had that,
LSU had that. Even that's why Carson Beck kind of
built up because he was on the best team and
he didn't live up to it in yours. But can
we get some top guys are gonna go in the
top fifteen. I mean, look at last year Pennix National Championship.
Bo Knicks on one of the best teams. Caleb Williams

(01:12:49):
was at USC LSU had a disastrous season. They went
nine to three with Jane Daniels and he won the Heisman.
So like, I can live with a Drake may on
a crappier team, but I like a couple of my
quarterbacks to go in the first round on top five
ten teams. And now with the expanded playoff, can you
imagine if you've got a couple guys like this guy's
gonna go in the top ten in the draft and
not like one of those drew alers, like hey could

(01:13:10):
if you no, like, this guy's a lock to be
drafted high. We almost had it with cam Ward but
Miami fell apart. That's the one thing to keep an
eye on, just the quarterback play, and maybe because the
movement it's so chaotic, it's hard to you just never know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
We'll have some like out of the blue guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
All of a sudden, you'll get the next Joe Burrow
that no one's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
But I don't feel confident about that right now. Yeah,
I'm trying to think of some guys next year.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
But we even heading into this year, we thought the
quarterback play was gonna be better. We had Carson Beck
up there, we had quinn Ewers and they kind of
let things down. So even looking at next season, where
you know, Nico, how does he do at Tennessee?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
How does d J. Lagway do at Florida? How does
Club Nick do?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
I think there's a lot of guys where you do
have question marks. You're right, I love the amount of
attention the sports brought. I do miss the PAC twelve dearly,
the PAC twelve after dark. That was the one thing
with the whole movement and stuff like that. Then moving
on what was tough to watch, but it's pretty sweet
watching Oregon and USC and the Big Ten. It is
pretty sweet watching what Arizona State was able to do

(01:14:13):
in the Big twelve, and you know the different conference
real alignments and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Like that too. I think the sport's only gonna get
bigger and better.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
I think that, you know, people even making a mockery
of the twelve team playoff in the first round on
how they were blowouts, And now you look at the
two teams left in the playoff, it's Ohio State, Notre
Dame and a twelve in a fourteen model. Neither of
those teams would be planned for it. Both suffered really
bad losses, which is also what's great for the sport too,
is the drama of the parody week to week, the

(01:14:39):
amount of upsets we saw during you know, the season,
Like i'man even thinking back to Week zero in Ireland
when Georgia Tech beat Florida State and looking back on
that now looking here today with Notre Dame, Ohio State,
it's a pretty crazy year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
It's it's a fun sport and it's cool that we
get to, you know, the college football has talked about
a lot more like you were talking about it, like
even Coward talking about it on his show. Like I
can't remember a time even growing up where you turn
on the television first Take or whatever show you watch
and college football is being involved.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
In the same conversation as the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Yeah, to me, the biggest story next year and it's
not even gonna be close is gonna be Arch Manning.
And it's just that, I mean, Peyton Manning is one
of the biggest, most famous athletes of my life. He's
obviously one of the best quarterbacks in the history of
the league. His family name, I mean, Eli B. Belichick
twice is obviously a famous figure in the NFL history.
It's and I'm nervous that it's gonna be hard, like

(01:15:34):
it could get weird, like the chances that he's gonna
be like he's actually like Cooper Flag of football. You know,
It's like, I don't know, we'll see and I'm rooting
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
I want her to be sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
But I think that the hype on him and the
eyeballs on his games, it's one thing, like he started
a couple games this year right when you weers got hurt,
but it wasn't quite the same. You knew the other
guy who's gonna come back, Like it's his team. So
I think that's gonna be by far the lead store
Like arch Manning. Can he become like a star in
college football and become an NFL player and everyone even

(01:16:07):
if you're not a huge college football fan, is gonna
pay attention to that. He's at Texas. They're now in
the SEC, so like that's I mean, they're playing in
the biggest games. We want to see what, you know,
how their schedule kind of plays out, but it's there's
gonna be a lot of eyeballs on that guy. So
I I I'm excited for you got Peyton go into
the games with with Eli and Cooper. It's gonna be

(01:16:29):
I mean, you talk about people talking about that. I
mean NFL shows, my show. I mean, everyone's gonna be
paying attention to that, good or bad, and hopefully it's
I don't want it to be bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Hopefully it goes well.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Do you know who they play Week one next year
or Texas Michigan at Ohio State. Welcome to the big
League's arch? Yeah, they got at Ohio State. Then they've
got some really tough games home against San Jose State,
eight home against UTEP bye week home against Sam Houston.

(01:17:04):
Then you've got at Florida, You've got Red River at
Kentucky at Mississippi State home against Vanderbilt. Then you wrap
up at Georgia home against Arkansas home against A and
m SO at Georgia, obviously red River at Florida they're
gonna be a top fifteen team next year, and then
Ohio State that first week, so they've got some tough

(01:17:25):
games and that that's another a team next year, where
it's like if Sark can't get it done next season,
maybe the year after that because Anthony Hill junior, their
stud linebackers probably gonna go to the draft. And you
think about Colin Simmons, like some of those guys that
they've been hyping up. The younger talent next year is
gonna be a big You're right, arch Manning and even
Sark alone, that's gonna be arch Manning fors Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
There's there're gonna be a lot of people watching that game.
That'll do twenty million people week one. I can you
say that game's in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It's at Ohio State, Jesus unless it turns into like
a new Neutrol site game.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
But what I look right now, it says at Ohio State,
and that same week it's Notre Dame Miami, So you're
gonna have Carson Beck Miami versus Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
So we'll buckle up, well, Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Good luck to your Irish tonight and I will talk
to you soon, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Appreciate you go Irish Man. Thanks the volume.

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