January 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Breaking down where Colin was right and wrong from the football weekend, plus new signings for the Dodgers - anyone can defer money! Former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck joins Colin to discuss the NFL Divisional Round and how turnovers sank teams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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five Minutes Out or Less, Urban Meyer, Last Hour on
Ohio State, Notre Dame, Riley Leonhard, I mean Josh Allen,
I mean Riley Leonhard leading Notre Dame to the National
Championship game. Jmak, We are lucky, I said, I was
talking to my wife yesterday and I said, we have
three football games left professionally and one in college and
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then I'm going back to hockey scores. So it's got
a little emotional. Yeah, I'm sitting there. I gotta be honest.
In our lives, there's six months of the year that
we can wait to get to work.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
A little melancholy Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I will say four quarterbacks
left in the NFL. Did you see what's similar among
Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. They're
all mobile, all mobile quarterbacks. And we see one tonight
in Riley Leonard. Let's see if he because Will Howard,
he could run, but he's on mobile. Yeah, let's see
if Riley Leonard could pull off some magic film the
Irish tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, luck of the Irish, I'm not but I think
they have better special teams, the better quarterback, I would say,
the better coach. And the defense is at least as
good as Ohio State. But the Buckeye's offense is a
different level. Yeah, and you get into these you know,
these three and a half four hour games, somebody's gonna pop.
It's just hard to suppress. Now, Michigan did it because
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I think you know, they got into Ohio State's head.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
How much did that?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Was the rivalry though, Colin? I think it was a
lot of rivalry. But I remember you're the big dog favorite.
I watched the I watched the Eagles yesterday almost lose
to the Rams if not for Jalen Carter. So it's
like and I mean I watch Washington, Hammere, Detroit. Sometimes
going in as a favorite, you get a little tight
if you fall behind. Here we do Monday. We call
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it Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of boths. Let's fire
away where Colin was right and saying for weeks the
Bills this is the real deal. I think they should
be favored over Buffalo Kansas City. They're not, but they've
created balance. They're not as reliant on Josh Allen. The
front office is excellent. I think McDermott's evolved as a
head coach. They moved off a star receiver like Kansas City,
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and they've become more complete first team ever thirty plus
passing and rushing touchdowns. I like everything about Buffalo. Yeah,
I wish their defense was as good as the Eagles
and the Chiefs. It's not, but I think offensively, you
go to the last several Super Bowls, it's the offense
making a play, regardless of how good the opposing defense is.
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I like the Bills over Kansas City where Colin was wrong.
Nick Sariani in his second NFC championship. I don't have
to love his methods, but he's loud, Philly's loud. He's emotional.
Philly's emotional. It's just different. It's been a rocky flight.
But I will say this part of coaching is getting
your guys and your star players to rise to the moment.
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And he does it, and I just think it works.
He's fifty two and twenty three. It's a hard city
to coach in. Maybe Doug Peterson, who won a Super Bowl,
was too chill. Maybe Chip Kelly was a bit too
emotionally remote. Whatever it is, he feels like a fan
coaching the team. I'm wrong. It works. Where Colin was right, well,
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my number one preseason surprise team to make the playoffs
was the Washington Commanders. Colin, there's too much change. Yeah,
but when all the other people are bad and all
the new people are good, who cares. I love the staff,
the GM, the coordinator. One host in America had the
courage to say, yeah, I think this twenty year tire
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fire is going to make the playoffs. It was me,
little boy with big dreams and here to Washington in
the NFC Championship. Good for them.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm a Jared Goff loyalist.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That was ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Three picks lost to fumble. It was just ugly. I
got out played by a rookie, a great rookie. But
when they had Jameis Williams throwing it the wide receiver
from Alabama when he was throwing a pass, that felt
like almost a message, like, you know, on Jared Goff
throwing the ball, because when you do those you know, reverses,
those receivers, they want to throw the ball. They're not
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gonna They're not gonna tucket. They're gonna throw the ball.
So listen, Sean McVay moved off golf. I don't think
they're gonna be moving off on them now. But you
couldn't watch that game as a pocket quarterback in wonder
what's the off season going to be like, second, third,
fourth round on a pretty stacked roster. I think they'll
roll the dice. No Riley Leonard, They'll be shocked where
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Colin was right. Kansas City's not lucky. I've been hearing
this all year. They're circums Angeley the best team in football,
best coach, best defensive coordinator, best quarterback. Yes, Mahomes can
manipulate the officials, but what do you know, Travis Kelcey,
we say this all the time. It's like Gronk. You
go to the NBA playoffs, the NFL playoffs, there's a
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red light that goes on for the Great Ones, and
here's Travis Kelcey seventy percent of the offense. So listen,
eight straight games without a turnover, I mean, just say
that out loud. In the NFL, the Chiefs have played
eight straight games without a turnover. That to me is
not luck. Where Colin was right, I said Mike McCarthy
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as the leverage, he should ask for the moon against Dallas.
He'll have a market and all of it's been true.
He now I believe could be the favorite to get
the Chicago Bears job. And here's the thing about Mike McCarthy,
since he arrived in Dallas, only the Buffalo Bills and
Josh Allen have a more productive offense with farv an
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old grumpy Farf. He won with Aaron, he won with Dak,
he went with Cooper Rush, he won some games with
Andy Dalton. I believed it was a regressing franchise and
he is still a marketable coach. We were right on
Mike McCarthy, who now is interviewing for other jobs.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, I love Sam Darnold, but those last couple
of games sixty six passer rating were not ideal. Yes,
I had him receiving MVP votes in Week fourteen and fifteen.
But it's how it ends. Jaden Daniels ends great. Sam
Darnold did not. I think he is now what he's
probably always been. Baker Mayfield, Lil reckless, darn good works
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his butt off, likable B plus guy making mid thirties
a year.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Folks, all your billionaires, or at least most of them,
could afford what the Dodgers are doing. Who landed Roki
Sasaki the next great young pitching star from Japan? You
do realize the Dodgers deferring payments. Every franchise could do that.
They also win trades. They have arguably the best minor
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league system. They stole ta Oscar Hernandez for nothing. This
is an organization that is hyper aggressive. All these owners
in baseball, even the A's and the Fisher family, are billionaires.
All of these organizations can defer payments. It's absolutely legal.
I hear this all the time. Well, what is wrong
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with baseball? When the Yankees were dominating the Hot Stove League,
it was celebrated. People don't like it because they think
they're using some system that's not legal. Deferred payments are
the future of baseball, and the smartest team in the
sport has figured it out first. Where Colin was right,
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Riley Leonard led his team to a Natty despite the
fact they have one five star athlete. I think this
is the most underrated player in college football. I think
he's going to go to an offensive coach like a McVeigh,
sit for two years, not play, and you'll look up
and he's getting reps on Sunday. I don't know. I
just when I watch him, tough athletic, got kind of
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a weird delivery, but every time they ask him to
make a big throw, he makes it. I think he
has been my favorite dark horse player in college football
for the entire year, and here he is taking a
team that doesn't have as many five star football recruits
as Kentucky to the National Championship. Helps He's got a
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great coach and with that we got a great analyst.
Matt Hasselbeck is joining US Live. You know, when I
watched Buffalo yesterday, it was funny. So Tyreek Hill left
the Chiefs and they had to pivot to being more
efficient because they weren't going to be They weren't going
to be as elegant over the top, and Stefan Diggs leaves,
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and I'm like, this team runs the ball. They have
pivoted to kind of a more boring team. They don't
allow sacks, they don't get penalties, they don't turn it over,
and I keep saying to myself, they've kind of grown up.
I feel like I've watched the Bills grow up in
the last year.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, I agree with everything that you just said there.
And you know the committee approach at the running back position.
You know, I remember when Josh Allen would lead the
team in rushing and you didn't see that yesterday. I
mean really, you know you saw one running back running
it down to the one and another guy comes in
to score a touchdown, Like, so what who cares? We
don't care about credit, we don't care about carries. We're
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sharing the load in the running game, I would say
the same thing in the passing game. I think nine
different guys caught passes yesterday. So it's much tougher to
defend a guy a quarterback when he's spreading the ball around,
taking what the defense gives him in a sense, and
like not really caring about do I have to get
this guy his touches so he doesn't throw a little
tep tantrum on the bench. I think Buffalo has certainly
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lived that life. People live that life, but I think
the life that they're living right now, where it's more
of a team and more spreading it around, is certainly
working for them.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
How much blame goes to Lamar Jackson? What did you think?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Lamar is one of my favorite quarterbacks. I think he's
one of the great quarterbacks of all time. And one
of the things that I absolutely love about him is
his leadership at the podium after the game. You hear
a lot of quarterbacks when the game doesn't go well,
they say, oh, we got to be better on third down,
we can't turn the ball over. It's like, bro, you
got to stop turning the ball over. You were the
reason we turned it over. Lamar, you never hear that
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out of him. He always accepts the blame. It's almost
like it just comes right from his head right to
his mouth. He's like mad at himself. I think that's
one of the reasons that not only do his teammates
love him, the opponents respect him. I think it's one
of the reasons that he will eventually get there, but
clearly the interception early we're uncharacteristic of Lamar, the fumble
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after the bad snap, taking a bad situation, making it,
making it worse. Those were two plays that he's really
going to be kicking himself about the entire offseason. But again,
I just really believe that that accountability at the quarterback position,
not a lot of guys have it. Lamar has it,
and so for that reason, for the long haul, I'll
take Lamar any the other week.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So you know, it's interesting the Eagles have sixty five
net passing yards. But I do believe that part of
the sustainability of this team is that Jalen Hurts is
okay with it. I mean, he played at Bama like
he knows like it's not just about me. And I
also think if I was a quarterback, and especially god
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it's a little smaller and has had injuries, I would
be okay having a star running back like I think
the personalities on this team Saquon professional, classy, quiet, Jalen Hurts, reserved,
like there's something about this team team Jalen is comfortable
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not leading them, and I think that's unique. I think
most quarterbacks want to throw the ball. I think they
like to. I mean, Howie Longos jokes, you can't have
multiple quarterbacks in the room. They all take the oxygen
out of it. What do you make of hurt style,
some inefficiencies, what do you make of this offense?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Well, I do think he is the leader, and I
think he's got a great leadership style. He doesn't care
about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the
passing game. But I think they got to be better.
They got to be better in the passing game. I'll
just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing
is amazing as a runner and as amazing as a thrower.
And that's not just on Jalen. The guys around him
got to step up. It was bad weather this weekend,
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It's gonna be bad weather probably the next weekend. You
got to catch the ball in bad weather. The better player.
The guys around him got to step up and play
well in cold weather. But at the same time, I thought,
I don't know if it was injury or what, Jalen
Hurts didn't look like the best version of Jalen Hurds
that I've seen. So he's got to raise his game
and be at his best. Do I think Philly, can
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you know not fly Eagles, fly Ron Eagles run to
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I do.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
But at the same time, they do need more out
of their passing game. I know they say they could
do it if they wanted to. You're gonna need it
against Washington.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
In my opinion, you can lose at home in a
playoff game, but the way Detroit lost, does that resonate
in the offseason. Do you think they're they're they're going
to kind of review some things. That was ugly, some
of an injury, but some of it just mistakes.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think sometimes, and you saw it in some of
the games. You can try too hard, you can want
it too bad, and I think that was just the case.
If you look at all the teams that didn't win,
turnovers were really the story of the weekend. You got
to protect the ball. You can't be sloppy with it,
you can't be careless, you can't, I think, just try
to force something that's not there. And and really, you know,
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turnovers they did. That's what did Detroit in And I
know they won a game earlier this year where they
had a bunch of turnovers, but by and large, if
you want to know the formula to not losing, you
have to protect that football. There's a lot of coaches
in the NFL. They've got signs all around the building.
I remember when Pete Carroll came to Seattle from USC,
he took down just about every sign that Mike signing
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picture that Mike Holmgren had hanging there for like ten years,
and and Jim Mora after that, he took them all
down and he put up basically in every single room
there was a sign that said it's all about the ball.
And so whether you have or sign or not, that
is true. Turnovers will get you beat. And that's what
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got the Detroit Lions beat this weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, I watched the Eli Manning Joe Burrow go on
the road, go through the playoffs as an underdog and
get to Super Bowls. It can happen. The personnel wise,
Washington Philly feels like a massive, a massive mismatch. How
much of a shot do you give Jayden Daniels and
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the Commanders.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Well, unfortunately I lost to Super Bowl to a wildcard
team in the Pittsburgh Steelers, who did just the same thing.
And I also if you look at just like what's
gone on. The home teams are usually winning, but it
hasn't mattered to Washington. I see people talking about their
inexperience being a negative. It is not a negative. They
went on the road to Tampa against the hot Baker
Mayfield and Mike Evans team. They said, so what, there's
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a game anyone, anywhere, anytime, let's go, let's win it.
They go the next week, they win it. They're going
to Philly like they don't care, like they don't even know,
Like they don't they're not like, oh man, remember we
had those home playoff games, Like it's nothing to them.
So I just think that they're so engrossed in the game.
They've got poise that's never been never been seen before
out of a rookie quarterback, and they're playing so well.
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Cliff Kingsbury has them dialed in. I think Dan Quinn
has the bigger job on defense because I don't think
the defense is as talented as the offense in Washington.
So that'd be the big question for me. But can
they get to the super Bowl? I said it on
this show a couple of weeks ago, three weeks so
a month ago. Absolutely you could have a rookie quarterback
in the Super Bowl, and Jayden Dangls is the guy
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to me.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So let's go back, segue back to Bill's Chiefs. So
it's interesting Buffalo's beaten Kansas City several times, not in
the game, but this does not feel like Baltimore Kansas
City to me, where just Baltimore just can't get past it.
We saw I think it was first week of the year,
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Baltimore lost by a tota Kansasity. I think Buffalo feels
we've beaten these guys. We've beaten these guys multiple times.
I don't think psychology plays a role in this game.
I think better team wins. But I haven't played the
game you have when you get to a conference championship
to those ghosts reappear for Buffalo, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I don't know. I think it's a pretty mentally tough team.
They know each other really well.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
I kind of mentioned that all year. I felt like
all these teams, you know, Kansas City in Buffalo, they
were going to go in through the motions knowing that
these guys were going to meet up at the end
of the year at some point, and that's what you see.
I really think home field advantage is going to be
the biggest player in this game. You heard Tony Romo
talking about it, like getting into the perfect play, not
wasting plays, using your cadence. That's an advantage that Buffalo
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has had so far in the playoffs. I think Josh
Allen does a great job of that, but I think
the best in the league is Patrick mahomes At using
his cadence, getting the protection right, getting into the right play,
and so that home field advantage, there's a reason why
guys care about it so much. It's not so much like, oh,
you're you know, you need people cheering for you, or
you don't want people booing against you. No, it's the
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communication at the line of scrimmage for these new age
offenses that are calling one, two or three plays in
the huddle, and it's just so important to get that
communication done right. And you talk about no penalties, it's
a lot easier to have no penalties, especially offensively when
you're at home.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So the rule states very clearly in the NFL you
can't challenge roughing the passer, And it also says, we
looked it up this morning, when in doubt, call roughing
if you think it's roughing. Call it. They demand that
it's in big black letters and underlined in the rule book.
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It's like we say in baseball, ty goes to the runner,
ty goes to the quarterback. Call it. I also think
Mahomes manipulates refs, So does Lebron. Does it bother you
what you're seeing or did you try to whenever you
could to kind of leverage and manipulate moments physically.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I think there's a fine line there. I think
the NFL get it right. I think everyone's a little
bit embarrassed by, you know, the fact that they didn't
get the call right. I think replay assists will probably
come in at some point. But I'm kind of okay
with like what happened, because I do think they'll get
it fixed. The Mahomes at the sideline flopping, I mean,
I used to give Andrew Luck a lot of heat
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about that. I used to think, like, he sometimes flop.
He's a huge soccer fan, and I was like, Okay, listen,
this isn't soccer, you know. But at the end of
the day, I think they will get it right. Do
I think they got it right in that game? No, No,
they didn't. There's room for improvement. But I also don't
think that's why the Texans lost the game. I think
the Texans lost the game for other reasons, and so
I'm not going to sit here and discredit the Chiefs
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for the reason, you know, that being the reason they
won the game. But did penalties have a huge play
in that early drive, Yeah, it did, It really did.
But again, I think it's just something everyone needs to
learn from basically.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Now, I will say, for the record, on the Will
Anderson hit from the perspective of the official when it
happened in real time, Matt, I thought it was I
mean the way from my television seat. I watched it
like this one right here. My first take was, oh,
that's helmet to helmet and so yeah, I mean, I boom,
that looks right there like helmet to helmet the first
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time you see it quickly.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, And that's why I will never criticize officials. It's
bang bang, you're trying to do the best you can.
Happens in real time. I think our officials do a
really good job. Actually, but we're using replay assists for
all this other stuff and there's only one game going
on during the playoffs. It's not a one o'clock game
on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so
much to watch. You got to get this right. We
have slow motion, we have high def, we have replay assists.
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That's where I'm saying, like, hey, now, listen. I also
would say, watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night,
you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let
those guys play. It was a completely different game. How
it was officiated. Consistency was not there. I saw an
official get knocked over to the ground after a late
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hit on a fight. Nothing happened, like they weren't even
calling PI. So like to think that, like there wasn't
some sort of conversation like hey we maybe over did it,
over protected. I saw Lamar Jackson, who probably gonna win
the MVP, get tackled out of bounds with I mean,
trust me, these guys are human. They're talking about it.
But until the Competition Committee gets together in the offseason
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and puts a proposal out there, I don't I don't
know how much they can get a change in a
way that's consistent.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I think you make up a great point. There
was a lot of physicality in the Ravens Bills game,
and it's you know, listen, officials watch, they're all sitting
watching that one game at their hotel and they're going,
oh boy, this is bad that they're on their phones
and everybody's saying official stink. So point made.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
By And even the golf interception on the pick six
when he took it in the chin, he literally takes
the helmet straight to the chin and there's no flag,
And again I think that's where where people are kind
of like, well, why did it happen for one quarterback.
I do think there's a little bit of a market correction,
and the officials do communicate from game to game. They
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Matt Hasselbeck is always in a Monday money thanks for
coming on the show, but as always see Cohn. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's the reality of it. Like games bleed
into games. People sit in their hotel rooms, everybody's watching football,
and you watch them a Homes game and think, we
got to back off and let these guys play. I've
seen in the NBA series game to game the official
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officiating change, Like if it gets really really physical and
choppy in Game one and tempers flare. It's almost like
they get a call from the league office and the
refs will in the first quarter of the game call
everything and just course correct. We've seen this in the
NFL in the preseason when they over officiate a new rule.
So I remember a couple of years ago in the
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Super Bowl, the Philly Special, when they allowed juggling balls
as catches because the league was getting so much heat,
and there was a ball in the back of the
end zone for the Eagles and they kind of bobbled it.
That was an incompletion all year and I'm not complaining,
but it was like leagues do react, watch games, talk
to officials. It felt like Baltimore, Buffalo, let the guys play.
So what's your guess is what happens in case Buffalo?
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Because Colin Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Troy Aigman used to work here, I haven't heard an
announcer put the league on blast the way he did
in that Texan Chiefs game.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And it was right, it was justified. He had a
lot of backing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Again, these Island games, thirty million people are watching, and
it's very obvious that all of them what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, I've always I think you and I both believe this.
When the higher the stakes, the less I want officials
dictating anything. I do understand officials early in seasons or
early in games saying guys like when you played the
Ravens or you played the Patriots, and the Patriots with
Belichick were very grabby on the perimeter. Their cornerbacks would
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grab you, and officials throw an early flag. They're like, Bill,
we're not letting you do that enough. Yeah, Like so
I am for an official being overly assertive early, but
you know, I'll say it again. I thought the Will
Anderson hit was when I watched it in real time,
my take was, Oh, that's a shot. Mahomes sells it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, wait, don't Can you explain to me what the
heck replay assist is because it seems to work very
willy nilly, and I started asking around on text message.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They're like, I don't get it. The league is unclear
when does replay chime in?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Like, this is a great point. Remember you and I
there was about a six year period in this league
or longer I didn't know what the hell of catch was.
It started with a Calvin Johnson catch against the Bears
in the end zone and they wouldn't allow it, and
all of a sudden it was heightened during the des
Brand Bryant Packers and I brought Roger Goodell on the
show and I asked him and he was great about it.
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I said, I love your sport. I don't know what
a catch is, and he's like, we have to address it.
I think to your question, here was Will Anderson this
morning on the Mahomes hit and officiating.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
I'm not the type of the chase cause the NFL
can do whatever they need to do for the thing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I feel like, as a player, you just have to
keep playing.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Some calls were you know, and my opinion could have
been better cause and that's okay, that's my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But at the end of the day, it's about us.
We have to do a better job of executing.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
We have to do a better job of going out
there and being ready and no matter what the outcome is,
we have to do a better job of handling checks.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
His business on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, he's right, and listen, it's the NFL is a business.
Businesses tweak. This is what they do. The NFL has
always been the ultimate tweak sport. They're unlike baseball, which
took them forever to get a pitch clock or defensive
shift abandoned. The NFL will fix stuff rules committee. They'll
tweak stuff. I mean in years wheren't officiating isn't controversial,
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they tweak. And they just changed the kickoff this year.
A couple of years ago that changed the pat They
will tweak.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, and you know I coach my kids in sports
colin I am aggressive defensively.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I say, guys, I.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Want you handsy, I want you all over them. Let
the refs call it. If the refs call it, then
we got to back off. But I want to see
this game Buffalo in Kansas City. I want the res's
hands off. Let the teams play the game. Don't be
all like, oh here's a fly on Buffalo. I want
to see the Let them play.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
All right. Just know the Chiefs have the better defense,
and so if the Bills have the better quarterback, well
subscribing the year theory, let them play. Then the Chiefs
defense will grab and hold and clutch. Hey McIntyre said.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I grab it. Josh Allen on the run, big boy,
try grabbing a call on Nick Bolton? What do you got?
I can't wait for this game.
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Speaker 10 (27:22):
No news, this is the herd Line news.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, we like to celebrate positives on the show,
but listen, there's nothing positive about Mark Andrews fourth quarter.
I mean, the drop two point conversion of the tides
of game just gut wrenching.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You know, I don't know how else to explain it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Like pass was fine, maybe a tad low, but I
mean that's in his bread basket. He's making fifteen million
dollars a year. You gotta catch out Mark Andrews. You
just felt bad Lamar Jackson defended his guy said, you
can't place blame on one guy.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
I don't just hurt of Mark, you know, I don't
his fault like all of us played a Patrick in
the game. You know, it's a team for just not
gonna put got o Mark Brooke because he'd been got
in an all season. He'd been doing all the great
things heem to be doing all the season.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It's it don't always go awak.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
We wanted to, but long the time is they did
not going on way.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
We need to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, it felt really bad for him because he's a
really good guy. He's been There have been years when
they didn't have good receivers where he was, he was
the receiving game.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Probably a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right, he's sent it right up against it, like you're
not going to get out of this game without one
of these games. Just there was a guy named Jackie
Smith with the Cowboys years ago. He had a big
drop in a Super Bowl. You just you don't could
have played very bond struggled forever in the postseason a
Rod did like the all time great players, very rare
when you don't have stinkers. It was just he had
a bad second half and a bad last forty five
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minutes of you know, real time.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, unfortunately gets a little worse. Our staff pulled up
Mark Andrews career playoff numbers. Oh boy, so he's played
in eight playoff games in his career. He has zero touchdowns.
He has more drops and more lost fumbles.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Than touchdowns in his playoff career. That's not good. Now
he had to drop yesterday and he lost the fumble.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Of course, I mean listen, Mark ands again, great player,
but for whatever reason, he has really struggled in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And again it happens.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know, it's like listen, it's also it's also neither team.
It's it's snowy, it's bad footing. There's just it's these
cold weather games. I was, I was thinking about this
yesterday watching the game. Everything's harder in bad weather. Everything.
It just driving's harder, it's harder for pilots. It's just
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first of all, the game gets into your head psychologically
because it's the coldest game Lamar's probably ever played in,
or one of them. So it's just everything is you
tend to be thinking about, you know, the cold and
getting your footing and your concentration is pulled in these games,
like your ball secure, You're trying to get your feet
right and you don't. You can't make breaks. Pookin to
go ahead a moment yesterday when he was trying to
(29:59):
come back around on a play and he just he
just couldn't quite get his body to turn. May not
have made the play anyway, but you're just constantly thinking
about footing. LA teams don't play in snow, and so
you know Lamar was you know, he played in Louisville
and he didn't get a lot of games like this
in his career. So I think it's taugh.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Remember Nose Flowers, we talked about Isaiah Likely, you did,
in fact, you said that Friday, and I mean he
had three catches, he didn't drop anything, and Andrews kind
of had a rough one. I'm a little surprised they
didn't scheme it up for Likely there, but you know
Andrews has been with him forever, like he can't fold
the play call.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Who was there just just to drop? Next up is
the Rams Colin who whoof boy?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They looked like they had a game winning drive there
before Jolen Carter stepped up.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Man, he was a monster.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
They did not play perfect football, but they had a
lot of guts in that. How about this catch? He
just stole out ball picking.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
On thirty four a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He after Quinnon Mitchell went out thirty four, the areas
getting beat.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Again, stay for a couple for him. But Carter was excellent.
Stafford was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Pretty good. Lamar Jackson is pretty good. Wasn't great? Pretty good?
Good enough to win a road game.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Now here's the thing. He is thirty six and.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He's got two years left on his contract, and the
media started to ask him about his future here Stafford.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
As far as my future goes, I mean, it's thirty
minutes after the last game, so it takes some time
to think about it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But a few eld's playing some prettyaball.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Feel like it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
If it was a robust quarterback class, they would draft
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I will tell you there is a quarterback in this
draft they believe they can get in the second and
third round, and if that quarterback is available, they will
go after him. I've been sworn to secrecy. I will
say this. They would like to trade down and get
more and more picks. You know, if they had to
rework a Stafford deal. Right now, they have a first,
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no second, two thirds of fourth, no fifth, and a
bunch of six no seventh. So I think they'd like
to trade down somehow, figure out a way to get
a second, even if it means giving up a third,
They're fine. I think they need another corner, another receiver,
a left tackle. They are very close. If this game's
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in LA and they're not playing that weather, who knows.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I've watched the four mobile quarterbacks win triumphant over the weekend. Okay,
and I know we didn't love Jalen Milroe this season
at Alabama, but I'm just telling you his value has
to be skyrocketing.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Column.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You know, I'm glad moves like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You know what I thought this weekend? The winner was
cam Ward Go get a guy to give the loser
all the receivers. Bill's better without Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
C J.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Stroud good enough without his two of his best receivers.
Is my whole? AJ Brown no factor in the game.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Hut.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So my take? What Tyreek Hill? What's it matter? I
thought receivers lost this weekend? Interesting and quarterback like a
cam Ward he Engeneur Sanders is go either way. Cam
is a much more mobile athlete.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Final story is to the NBA. Last night, the Lakers lost.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Their fourth in their last six. I watched this kind
of got druged by the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There After the game, Lebron was asked about how LA
can improve their inconsistenty to the inconsistencies, and he had
this response, it's.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Our team is constructed. We don't have from must rare,
but I have a choice. I mean, that's our that's
that's the way our team is constructing. We have to
we have to play close to the perfect basketball.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, they're just not Athletica though.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, they're only sixth in the West, which I think
Barkley qualifies as garbage.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well the East. By the way, how about this, I
won't canitle this out there?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Please do?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You're an owner of some multiple peruvia in the softball team,
so let me build this out there. Josh Harris in
twenty eleven buys the Sixers. He hasn't gotten to an
Eastern Conference finals. He has to cross his fingers every
year if MBAT is healthy. Josh Harris buys the Commander's
(34:10):
first year NFC championship. Well, what that tells you the
difference in the league. This is not a shot at
the NBA or baseball the NFL. You can go from
a circus. I mean, there was a smell around that
Washington football team. In that Houston team, you get the
quarterback right in the staff, right, Washington has no business
(34:32):
being in this game, name their two best defensive players.
I mean it is Jade and Terry McLaurin, and Hope
you have a great game plan.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's how many feel about the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It's Lebron ad and you don't trust Austin Reeves right,
He's like, Hope you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Got a good game plan.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And Lebron's out here saying, listen, this is how we're constructed.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I know some people are gonna say, Lebron, you built
the team. Let's just let's settle down.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
They're sitting to Wesley le Bron did want Westbrook. They've
been reeling since that move years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Man, take it.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Lebron catches strays here on a Monday, Come on, forty.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's that's very suss.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Jay mclaman news.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Urban Meyer Last Hour, Urban Meyer, Last Hour. I think
I like the Buckeyes, I know, but Riley Leonard I
mean Josh Allen, I mean Riley Leonard will keep them
in the game.
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Speaker 2 (35:35):
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Speaker 12 (35:37):
Historic Rivals collide with a trip to Super Bowl fifty
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in Washington against Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.
Pregame coverage starts at one pm he Stern with kickoff
at three.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Pony on Fox's My take on Lamar Jackson. If you
want to tell the story of Lamar Jackson struggling in
the playoff, then you also have to tell the story
We're on the road in snow without Zay Flowers. He
had one hundred and twenty five passer rating, went twelve
to fifteen and was a drop pass from tying it.
You got to tell the whole story. Now, I could
be a Lamar Jackson apologist, but like Matt Hasselbeck, I've
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never seen anything quite like him. I think he's remarkable.
I think there are quarterbacks in the pocket like a
Mahomes I would take, but he's so special that on
a bad snap, he's just trying to be Superman and
that's just his DNA. So every winning team in the
playoffs had no turnovers, and nine straight games have been
won by a team with no turnovers. So again, you're
(36:35):
not playing Caroline and the Jets. You just can't make
mistakes on this stuff. And Lamar in four of his
eight playoff games has had multiple turnovers and in four
of the eight, and in those four he's over four.
So that's fine. Now. Conversely, the Bills kind of took
the governor governor down their offense, especially after the yearly turnovers,
(36:57):
and said, let's just play smart football. We've got to
lead were at home. Let's just let's just let Baltimore
beat themselves. And to a degree they did. But you know, again,
the Mark Andrews fumble, the Mark Andrews drop, that's not
necessarily that's that's not on Lamar Jackson. You got to
tell the whole story, is that. Yeah, well, Lamar had
a bad pick. That that pick I'm showing the TV
(37:18):
audience is terrible. But he digs you out of those
because he is so unique. That fumble. I thought this
was the play of the game, not the drop pass.
I thought that fumble. I thought Buffalo was in trouble.
I thought Baltimore had taken over. They'd had big drives,
they had seized momentum. Buffalo wasn't moving the ball in
the second half, they were playing a little safe and
they weren't moving the ball consistently. They needed, you know,
(37:39):
Tyler Bass to hit field goals. But here's John Harbaugh
and the mistakes that eventually doomed the Ravens. It was
uncharacteristic to have turnovers like that.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
There are opportunities for us to uh to.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Not have those, but we have, you know, so you
try to bounce back from That's what you try to
do in the course of a game. You can't take
him back. Yeah, I mean, even on the interception that
Lamar threw, it does appear that Rashad Bateman he stopped running.
So I thought that was a psychology in this game.
You can watch it here again, Bateman just stops. So
(38:17):
Bateman's a guy that was, you know, not a big
crucial player in the regular season, and he goes into
the game is their best receiver. So I thought going
into the game that Lamar and the Ravens were thinking, Okay,
Buffalo's really good. It's at Buffalo. We don't have Zay Flowers.
We're gonna probably Lamar probably is thinking to himself, I
(38:37):
got to make a few things happen here. We're not
going in with a conservative game plan. I'm gonna make
things happen. So Bateman stops running. It looks like a
terrible pick, but you see what happened Andrew. So Bateman
Andrews let him down again. Stafford played good enough the
way Lamar played good enough to win in my opinion.
Now tonight Urban Meyer next hour, Ohio State, which has
(39:00):
decided nil and talent advantage, will take on Notre Dame tonight.
I do like Ohio State, but Notre Dame I think
has better special teams. I think they have Sean McVay
as a coach. I think their defense is at least
as good as Ohio State. But the Buckeyes have really
one of the more amazing receiving cors. I mean, the
(39:20):
last four or five years, Ohio State has become like
a conveyor belt of first round wide receivers. And I
just think Notre Dame unless they can just I mean
honestly special teams can Notre Dame. This sounds ridiculous. Get
good punting. Can they pin Ohio State back? Can they
(39:41):
kind of win field position in the first half of
the game. They're gonna have to do more right to win.
There's more margin of air for Ohio State. They blew
out Oregon, they blew out Tennessee. They look pretty unbeatable.
But you know in the Michigan game, Will Howard had
a rocky star. The coach has lost confidence in him.
(40:02):
And when you do go in as a dominating favorite,
you have a tendency if you get sloppy early to
pull it back a little bit. Let's play conservative. So
I get the better quarterback, I think, I get the
better coach, I get the better special teams. Notre Dame's
not here because they've lucked into it. They've got a
lot of components, but they're gonna need to play a
(40:23):
more perfect football game. Certainly capable of doing that, but
they are what is it now, eight eight and a
half point underdog. I think I like the under I
think it's going to be a low scoring game that favors,
by the way, Notre Dame. I'm not gonna bet. I
just I don't see Notre Dame getting blown out. They
(40:45):
just they're very resourceful, a very resourceful football team. But
usually in these national championship games, big favorites win, and
often win going away. That, as J. Mack will tell you,
has been the trend.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Last five, Natty's favorites have just dominated.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, so in Ohio, state's better.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I just want to know, game plan wise, is Notre
Dame gonna do what Texas did to slow down Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's probably your best bet.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But if you go in with this met we got
here doing our thing, We're going to keep doing it.
Smith is going to kill you. You can't man him up.
He demands double coverage.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
At least, right.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, Texas totally shut him down and hung around,
hung around, and then they had a chance.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Late before Jack Sawyer stepped in with one of the
great plays.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, Texas also had a much more dynamic offensive machine.
So Texas takeaway, you know they Texas is going to
play and coach different than Notre Dame does. Notre Dame
doesn't have that kind of firepower
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talking to my wife yesterday and I said, we have
three football games left professionally and one in college and
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then I'm going back to hockey scores. So it's got
a little emotional. Yeah, I'm sitting there. I gotta be honest.
In our lives, there's six months of the year that
we can wait to get to work.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
A little melancholy Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I will say four quarterbacks
left in the NFL. Did you see what's similar among
Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. They're
all mobile, all mobile quarterbacks. And we see one tonight
in Riley Leonard. Let's see if he because Will Howard,
he could run, but he's on mobile. Yeah, let's see
if Riley Leonard could pull off some magic film the
Irish tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, luck of the Irish, I'm not but I think
they have better special teams, the better quarterback, I would say,
the better coach. And the defense is at least as
good as Ohio State. But the Buckeye's offense is a
different level. Yeah, and you get into these you know,
these three and a half four hour games, somebody's gonna pop.
It's just hard to suppress. Now, Michigan did it because
(01:46):
I think you know, they got into Ohio State's head.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
How much did that?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Was the rivalry though, Colin? I think it was a
lot of rivalry. But I remember you're the big dog favorite.
I watched the I watched the Eagles yesterday almost lose
to the Rams if not for Jalen Carter. So it's
like and I mean I watch Washington, Hammere, Detroit. Sometimes
going in as a favorite, you get a little tight
if you fall behind. Here we do Monday. We call
(02:10):
it Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of boths. Let's fire
away where Colin was right and saying for weeks the
Bills this is the real deal. I think they should
be favored over Buffalo Kansas City. They're not, but they've
created balance. They're not as reliant on Josh Allen. The
front office is excellent. I think McDermott's evolved as a
head coach. They moved off a star receiver like Kansas City,
(02:32):
and they've become more complete first team ever thirty plus
passing and rushing touchdowns. I like everything about Buffalo. Yeah,
I wish their defense was as good as the Eagles
and the Chiefs. It's not, but I think offensively, you
go to the last several Super Bowls, it's the offense
making a play, regardless of how good the opposing defense is.
(02:54):
I like the Bills over Kansas City where Colin was wrong.
Nick Sariani in his second NFC championship. I don't have
to love his methods, but he's loud, Philly's loud. He's emotional.
Philly's emotional. It's just different. It's been a rocky flight.
But I will say this part of coaching is getting
your guys and your star players to rise to the moment.
(03:16):
And he does it, and I just think it works.
He's fifty two and twenty three. It's a hard city
to coach in. Maybe Doug Peterson, who won a Super Bowl,
was too chill. Maybe Chip Kelly was a bit too
emotionally remote. Whatever it is, he feels like a fan
coaching the team. I'm wrong. It works. Where Colin was right, well,
(03:37):
my number one preseason surprise team to make the playoffs
was the Washington Commanders. Colin, there's too much change. Yeah,
but when all the other people are bad and all
the new people are good, who cares. I love the staff,
the GM, the coordinator. One host in America had the
courage to say, yeah, I think this twenty year tire
(03:57):
fire is going to make the playoffs. It was me,
little boy with big dreams and here to Washington in
the NFC Championship. Good for them.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm a Jared Goff loyalist.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That was ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Three picks lost to fumble. It was just ugly. I
got out played by a rookie, a great rookie. But
when they had Jameis Williams throwing it the wide receiver
from Alabama when he was throwing a pass, that felt
like almost a message, like, you know, on Jared Goff
throwing the ball, because when you do those you know, reverses,
those receivers, they want to throw the ball. They're not
(04:32):
gonna They're not gonna tucket. They're gonna throw the ball.
So listen, Sean McVay moved off golf. I don't think
they're gonna be moving off on them now. But you
couldn't watch that game as a pocket quarterback in wonder
what's the off season going to be like, second, third,
fourth round on a pretty stacked roster. I think they'll
roll the dice. No Riley Leonard, They'll be shocked where
(04:54):
Colin was right. Kansas City's not lucky. I've been hearing
this all year. They're circums Angeley the best team in football,
best coach, best defensive coordinator, best quarterback. Yes, Mahomes can
manipulate the officials, but what do you know, Travis Kelcey,
we say this all the time. It's like Gronk. You
go to the NBA playoffs, the NFL playoffs, there's a
(05:16):
red light that goes on for the Great Ones, and
here's Travis Kelcey seventy percent of the offense. So listen,
eight straight games without a turnover, I mean, just say
that out loud. In the NFL, the Chiefs have played
eight straight games without a turnover. That to me is
not luck. Where Colin was right, I said Mike McCarthy
(05:39):
as the leverage, he should ask for the moon against Dallas.
He'll have a market and all of it's been true.
He now I believe could be the favorite to get
the Chicago Bears job. And here's the thing about Mike McCarthy,
since he arrived in Dallas, only the Buffalo Bills and
Josh Allen have a more productive offense with farv an
(06:01):
old grumpy Farf. He won with Aaron, he won with Dak,
he went with Cooper Rush, he won some games with
Andy Dalton. I believed it was a regressing franchise and
he is still a marketable coach. We were right on
Mike McCarthy, who now is interviewing for other jobs.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know, I love Sam Darnold, but those last couple
of games sixty six passer rating were not ideal. Yes,
I had him receiving MVP votes in Week fourteen and fifteen.
But it's how it ends. Jaden Daniels ends great. Sam
Darnold did not. I think he is now what he's
probably always been. Baker Mayfield, Lil reckless, darn good works
(06:41):
his butt off, likable B plus guy making mid thirties
a year.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Folks, all your billionaires, or at least most of them,
could afford what the Dodgers are doing. Who landed Roki
Sasaki the next great young pitching star from Japan? You
do realize the Dodgers deferring payments. Every franchise could do that.
They also win trades. They have arguably the best minor
(07:10):
league system. They stole ta Oscar Hernandez for nothing. This
is an organization that is hyper aggressive. All these owners
in baseball, even the A's and the Fisher family, are billionaires.
All of these organizations can defer payments. It's absolutely legal.
I hear this all the time. Well, what is wrong
(07:32):
with baseball? When the Yankees were dominating the Hot Stove League,
it was celebrated. People don't like it because they think
they're using some system that's not legal. Deferred payments are
the future of baseball, and the smartest team in the
sport has figured it out first. Where Colin was right,
(07:53):
Riley Leonard led his team to a Natty despite the
fact they have one five star athlete. I think this
is the most underrated player in college football. I think
he's going to go to an offensive coach like a McVeigh,
sit for two years, not play, and you'll look up
and he's getting reps on Sunday. I don't know. I
just when I watch him, tough athletic, got kind of
(08:16):
a weird delivery, but every time they ask him to
make a big throw, he makes it. I think he
has been my favorite dark horse player in college football
for the entire year, and here he is taking a
team that doesn't have as many five star football recruits
as Kentucky to the National Championship. Helps He's got a
(08:37):
great coach and with that we got a great analyst.
Matt Hasselbeck is joining US Live. You know, when I
watched Buffalo yesterday, it was funny. So Tyreek Hill left
the Chiefs and they had to pivot to being more
efficient because they weren't going to be They weren't going
to be as elegant over the top, and Stefan Diggs leaves,
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and I'm like, this team runs the ball. They have
pivoted to kind of a more boring team. They don't
allow sacks, they don't get penalties, they don't turn it over,
and I keep saying to myself, they've kind of grown up.
I feel like I've watched the Bills grow up in
the last year.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, I agree with everything that you just said there.
And you know the committee approach at the running back position.
You know, I remember when Josh Allen would lead the
team in rushing and you didn't see that yesterday. I
mean really, you know you saw one running back running
it down to the one and another guy comes in
to score a touchdown, Like, so what who cares? We
don't care about credit, we don't care about carries. We're
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sharing the load in the running game, I would say
the same thing in the passing game. I think nine
different guys caught passes yesterday. So it's much tougher to
defend a guy a quarterback when he's spreading the ball around,
taking what the defense gives him in a sense, and
like not really caring about do I have to get
this guy his touches so he doesn't throw a little
tep tantrum on the bench. I think Buffalo has certainly
(10:04):
lived that life. People live that life, but I think
the life that they're living right now, where it's more
of a team and more spreading it around, is certainly
working for them.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
How much blame goes to Lamar Jackson? What did you think?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Lamar is one of my favorite quarterbacks. I think he's
one of the great quarterbacks of all time. And one
of the things that I absolutely love about him is
his leadership at the podium after the game. You hear
a lot of quarterbacks when the game doesn't go well,
they say, oh, we got to be better on third down,
we can't turn the ball over. It's like, bro, you
got to stop turning the ball over. You were the
reason we turned it over. Lamar, you never hear that
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out of him. He always accepts the blame. It's almost
like it just comes right from his head right to
his mouth. He's like mad at himself. I think that's
one of the reasons that not only do his teammates
love him, the opponents respect him. I think it's one
of the reasons that he will eventually get there, but
clearly the interception early we're uncharacteristic of Lamar, the fumble
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after the bad snap, taking a bad situation, making it,
making it worse. Those were two plays that he's really
going to be kicking himself about the entire offseason. But again,
I just really believe that that accountability at the quarterback position,
not a lot of guys have it. Lamar has it,
and so for that reason, for the long haul, I'll
take Lamar any the other week.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So you know, it's interesting the Eagles have sixty five
net passing yards. But I do believe that part of
the sustainability of this team is that Jalen Hurts is
okay with it. I mean, he played at Bama like
he knows like it's not just about me. And I
also think if I was a quarterback, and especially god
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it's a little smaller and has had injuries, I would
be okay having a star running back like I think
the personalities on this team Saquon professional, classy, quiet, Jalen Hurts, reserved,
like there's something about this team team Jalen is comfortable
(12:04):
not leading them, and I think that's unique. I think
most quarterbacks want to throw the ball. I think they
like to. I mean, Howie Longos jokes, you can't have
multiple quarterbacks in the room. They all take the oxygen
out of it. What do you make of hurt style,
some inefficiencies, what do you make of this offense?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Well, I do think he is the leader, and I
think he's got a great leadership style. He doesn't care
about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the
passing game. But I think they got to be better.
They got to be better in the passing game. I'll
just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing
is amazing as a runner and as amazing as a thrower.
And that's not just on Jalen. The guys around him
got to step up. It was bad weather this weekend,
(12:43):
It's gonna be bad weather probably the next weekend. You
got to catch the ball in bad weather. The better player.
The guys around him got to step up and play
well in cold weather. But at the same time, I thought,
I don't know if it was injury or what, Jalen
Hurts didn't look like the best version of Jalen Hurds
that I've seen. So he's got to raise his game
and be at his best. Do I think Philly, can
(13:04):
you know not fly Eagles, fly Ron Eagles run to
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I do.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
But at the same time, they do need more out
of their passing game. I know they say they could
do it if they wanted to. You're gonna need it
against Washington.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
In my opinion, you can lose at home in a
playoff game, but the way Detroit lost, does that resonate
in the offseason. Do you think they're they're they're going
to kind of review some things. That was ugly, some
of an injury, but some of it just mistakes.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I think sometimes, and you saw it in some of
the games. You can try too hard, you can want
it too bad, and I think that was just the case.
If you look at all the teams that didn't win,
turnovers were really the story of the weekend. You got
to protect the ball. You can't be sloppy with it,
you can't be careless, you can't, I think, just try
to force something that's not there. And and really, you know,
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turnovers they did. That's what did Detroit in And I
know they won a game earlier this year where they
had a bunch of turnovers, but by and large, if
you want to know the formula to not losing, you
have to protect that football. There's a lot of coaches
in the NFL. They've got signs all around the building.
I remember when Pete Carroll came to Seattle from USC,
he took down just about every sign that Mike signing
(14:19):
picture that Mike Holmgren had hanging there for like ten years,
and and Jim Mora after that, he took them all
down and he put up basically in every single room
there was a sign that said it's all about the ball.
And so whether you have or sign or not, that
is true. Turnovers will get you beat. And that's what
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got the Detroit Lions beat this weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, I watched the Eli Manning Joe Burrow go on
the road, go through the playoffs as an underdog and
get to Super Bowls. It can happen. The personnel wise,
Washington Philly feels like a massive, a massive mismatch. How
much of a shot do you give Jayden Daniels and
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the Commanders.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Well, unfortunately I lost to Super Bowl to a wildcard
team in the Pittsburgh Steelers, who did just the same thing.
And I also if you look at just like what's
gone on. The home teams are usually winning, but it
hasn't mattered to Washington. I see people talking about their
inexperience being a negative. It is not a negative. They
went on the road to Tampa against the hot Baker
Mayfield and Mike Evans team. They said, so what, there's
(15:26):
a game anyone, anywhere, anytime, let's go, let's win it.
They go the next week, they win it. They're going
to Philly like they don't care, like they don't even know,
Like they don't they're not like, oh man, remember we
had those home playoff games, Like it's nothing to them.
So I just think that they're so engrossed in the game.
They've got poise that's never been never been seen before
out of a rookie quarterback, and they're playing so well.
(15:49):
Cliff Kingsbury has them dialed in. I think Dan Quinn
has the bigger job on defense because I don't think
the defense is as talented as the offense in Washington.
So that'd be the big question for me. But can
they get to the super Bowl? I said it on
this show a couple of weeks ago, three weeks so
a month ago. Absolutely you could have a rookie quarterback
in the Super Bowl, and Jayden Dangls is the guy
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to me.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So let's go back, segue back to Bill's Chiefs. So
it's interesting Buffalo's beaten Kansas City several times, not in
the game, but this does not feel like Baltimore Kansas
City to me, where just Baltimore just can't get past it.
We saw I think it was first week of the year,
(16:30):
Baltimore lost by a tota Kansasity. I think Buffalo feels
we've beaten these guys. We've beaten these guys multiple times.
I don't think psychology plays a role in this game.
I think better team wins. But I haven't played the
game you have when you get to a conference championship
to those ghosts reappear for Buffalo, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
I don't know. I think it's a pretty mentally tough team.
They know each other really well.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
I kind of mentioned that all year. I felt like
all these teams, you know, Kansas City in Buffalo, they
were going to go in through the motions knowing that
these guys were going to meet up at the end
of the year at some point, and that's what you see.
I really think home field advantage is going to be
the biggest player in this game. You heard Tony Romo
talking about it, like getting into the perfect play, not
wasting plays, using your cadence. That's an advantage that Buffalo
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has had so far in the playoffs. I think Josh
Allen does a great job of that, but I think
the best in the league is Patrick mahomes At using
his cadence, getting the protection right, getting into the right play,
and so that home field advantage, there's a reason why
guys care about it so much. It's not so much like, oh,
you're you know, you need people cheering for you, or
you don't want people booing against you. No, it's the
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communication at the line of scrimmage for these new age
offenses that are calling one, two or three plays in
the huddle, and it's just so important to get that
communication done right. And you talk about no penalties, it's
a lot easier to have no penalties, especially offensively when
you're at home.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So the rule states very clearly in the NFL you
can't challenge roughing the passer, And it also says, we
looked it up this morning, when in doubt, call roughing
if you think it's roughing. Call it. They demand that
it's in big black letters and underlined in the rule book.
(18:18):
It's like we say in baseball, ty goes to the runner,
ty goes to the quarterback. Call it. I also think
Mahomes manipulates refs, So does Lebron. Does it bother you
what you're seeing or did you try to whenever you
could to kind of leverage and manipulate moments physically.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Yeah, I think there's a fine line there. I think
the NFL get it right. I think everyone's a little
bit embarrassed by, you know, the fact that they didn't
get the call right. I think replay assists will probably
come in at some point. But I'm kind of okay
with like what happened, because I do think they'll get
it fixed. The Mahomes at the sideline flopping, I mean,
I used to give Andrew Luck a lot of heat
(18:56):
about that. I used to think, like, he sometimes flop.
He's a huge soccer fan, and I was like, Okay, listen,
this isn't soccer, you know. But at the end of
the day, I think they will get it right. Do
I think they got it right in that game? No, No,
they didn't. There's room for improvement. But I also don't
think that's why the Texans lost the game. I think
the Texans lost the game for other reasons, and so
I'm not going to sit here and discredit the Chiefs
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for the reason, you know, that being the reason they
won the game. But did penalties have a huge play
in that early drive, Yeah, it did, It really did.
But again, I think it's just something everyone needs to
learn from basically.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Now, I will say, for the record, on the Will
Anderson hit from the perspective of the official when it
happened in real time, Matt, I thought it was I
mean the way from my television seat. I watched it
like this one right here. My first take was, oh,
that's helmet to helmet and so yeah, I mean, I boom,
that looks right there like helmet to helmet the first
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time you see it quickly.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, And that's why I will never criticize officials. It's
bang bang, you're trying to do the best you can.
Happens in real time. I think our officials do a
really good job. Actually, but we're using replay assists for
all this other stuff and there's only one game going
on during the playoffs. It's not a one o'clock game
on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so
much to watch. You got to get this right. We
have slow motion, we have high def, we have replay assists.
(20:14):
That's where I'm saying, like, hey, now, listen. I also
would say, watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night,
you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let
those guys play. It was a completely different game. How
it was officiated. Consistency was not there. I saw an
official get knocked over to the ground after a late
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hit on a fight. Nothing happened, like they weren't even
calling PI. So like to think that, like there wasn't
some sort of conversation like hey we maybe over did it,
over protected. I saw Lamar Jackson, who probably gonna win
the MVP, get tackled out of bounds with I mean,
trust me, these guys are human. They're talking about it.
But until the Competition Committee gets together in the offseason
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and puts a proposal out there, I don't I don't
know how much they can get a change in a
way that's consistent.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I think you make up a great point. There
was a lot of physicality in the Ravens Bills game,
and it's you know, listen, officials watch, they're all sitting
watching that one game at their hotel and they're going,
oh boy, this is bad that they're on their phones
and everybody's saying official stink. So point made.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
By And even the golf interception on the pick six
when he took it in the chin, he literally takes
the helmet straight to the chin and there's no flag,
And again I think that's where where people are kind
of like, well, why did it happen for one quarterback.
I do think there's a little bit of a market correction,
and the officials do communicate from game to game. They
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Matt Hasselbeck is always in a Monday money thanks for
coming on the show, but as always see Cohn. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's the reality of it. Like games bleed
into games. People sit in their hotel rooms, everybody's watching football,
and you watch them a Homes game and think, we
got to back off and let these guys play. I've
seen in the NBA series game to game the official
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officiating change, Like if it gets really really physical and
choppy in Game one and tempers flare. It's almost like
they get a call from the league office and the
refs will in the first quarter of the game call
everything and just course correct. We've seen this in the
NFL in the preseason when they over officiate a new rule.
So I remember a couple of years ago in the
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Super Bowl, the Philly Special, when they allowed juggling balls
as catches because the league was getting so much heat,
and there was a ball in the back of the
end zone for the Eagles and they kind of bobbled it.
That was an incompletion all year and I'm not complaining,
but it was like leagues do react, watch games, talk
to officials. It felt like Baltimore, Buffalo, let the guys play.
So what's your guess is what happens in case Buffalo?
(22:44):
Because Colin Listen.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Troy Aigman used to work here, I haven't heard an
announcer put the league on blast the way he did
in that Texan Chiefs game.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And it was right, it was justified. He had a
lot of backing.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Again, these Island games, thirty million people are watching, and
it's very obvious that all of them what's happening.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, I've always I think you and I both believe this.
When the higher the stakes, the less I want officials
dictating anything. I do understand officials early in seasons or
early in games saying guys like when you played the
Ravens or you played the Patriots, and the Patriots with
Belichick were very grabby on the perimeter. Their cornerbacks would
(23:23):
grab you, and officials throw an early flag. They're like, Bill,
we're not letting you do that enough. Yeah, Like so
I am for an official being overly assertive early, but
you know, I'll say it again. I thought the Will
Anderson hit was when I watched it in real time,
my take was, Oh, that's a shot. Mahomes sells it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, wait, don't Can you explain to me what the
heck replay assist is because it seems to work very
willy nilly, and I started asking around on text message.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They're like, I don't get it. The league is unclear
when does replay chime in?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Like, this is a great point. Remember you and I
there was about a six year period in this league
or longer I didn't know what the hell of catch was.
It started with a Calvin Johnson catch against the Bears
in the end zone and they wouldn't allow it, and
all of a sudden it was heightened during the des
Brand Bryant Packers and I brought Roger Goodell on the
show and I asked him and he was great about it.
(24:17):
I said, I love your sport. I don't know what
a catch is, and he's like, we have to address it.
I think to your question, here was Will Anderson this
morning on the Mahomes hit and officiating.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
I'm not the type of the chase cause the NFL
can do whatever they need to do for the thing.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I feel like, as a player, you just have to
keep playing.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Some calls were you know, and my opinion could have
been better cause and that's okay, that's my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
But at the end of the day, it's about us.
We have to do a better job of executing.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
We have to do a better job of going out
there and being ready and no matter what the outcome is,
we have to do a better job of handling checks.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
His business on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, he's right, and listen, it's the NFL is a business.
Businesses tweak. This is what they do. The NFL has
always been the ultimate tweak sport. They're unlike baseball, which
took them forever to get a pitch clock or defensive
shift abandoned. The NFL will fix stuff rules committee. They'll
tweak stuff. I mean in years wheren't officiating isn't controversial,
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they tweak. And they just changed the kickoff this year.
A couple of years ago that changed the pat They
will tweak.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, and you know I coach my kids in sports
colin I am aggressive defensively.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I say, guys, I.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Want you handsy, I want you all over them. Let
the refs call it. If the refs call it, then
we got to back off. But I want to see
this game Buffalo in Kansas City. I want the res's
hands off. Let the teams play the game. Don't be
all like, oh here's a fly on Buffalo. I want
to see the Let them play.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
All right. Just know the Chiefs have the better defense,
and so if the Bills have the better quarterback, well
subscribing the year theory, let them play. Then the Chiefs
defense will grab and hold and clutch. Hey McIntyre said.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I grab it. Josh Allen on the run, big boy,
try grabbing a call on Nick Bolton? What do you got?
I can't wait for this game.
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Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, we like to celebrate positives on the show,
but listen, there's nothing positive about Mark Andrews fourth quarter.
I mean, the drop two point conversion of the tides
of game just gut wrenching.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You know, I don't know how else to explain it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Like pass was fine, maybe a tad low, but I
mean that's in his bread basket. He's making fifteen million
dollars a year. You gotta catch out Mark Andrews. You
just felt bad Lamar Jackson defended his guy said, you
can't place blame on one guy.
Speaker 11 (27:51):
I don't just hurt of Mark, you know, I don't
his fault like all of us played a Patrick in
the game. You know, it's a team for just not
gonna put got o Mark Brooke because he'd been got
in an all season. He'd been doing all the great
things heem to be doing all the season.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
It's it don't always go awak.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
We wanted to, but long the time is they did
not going on way.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
We need to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, it felt really bad for him because he's a
really good guy. He's been There have been years when
they didn't have good receivers where he was, he was
the receiving game.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Probably a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Right, he's sent it right up against it, like you're
not going to get out of this game without one
of these games. Just there was a guy named Jackie
Smith with the Cowboys years ago. He had a big
drop in a Super Bowl. You just you don't could
have played very bond struggled forever in the postseason a
Rod did like the all time great players, very rare
when you don't have stinkers. It was just he had
a bad second half and a bad last forty five
(28:46):
minutes of you know, real time.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, unfortunately gets a little worse. Our staff pulled up
Mark Andrews career playoff numbers. Oh boy, so he's played
in eight playoff games in his career. He has zero touchdowns.
He has more drops and more lost fumbles.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Than touchdowns in his playoff career. That's not good. Now
he had to drop yesterday and he lost the fumble.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Of course, I mean listen, Mark ands again, great player,
but for whatever reason, he has really struggled in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And again it happens.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
You know, it's like listen, it's also it's also neither team.
It's it's snowy, it's bad footing. There's just it's these
cold weather games. I was, I was thinking about this
yesterday watching the game. Everything's harder in bad weather. Everything.
It just driving's harder, it's harder for pilots. It's just
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first of all, the game gets into your head psychologically
because it's the coldest game Lamar's probably ever played in,
or one of them. So it's just everything is you
tend to be thinking about, you know, the cold and
getting your footing and your concentration is pulled in these games,
like your ball secure, You're trying to get your feet
right and you don't. You can't make breaks. Pookin to
go ahead a moment yesterday when he was trying to
(29:59):
come back around on a play and he just he
just couldn't quite get his body to turn. May not
have made the play anyway, but you're just constantly thinking
about footing. LA teams don't play in snow, and so
you know Lamar was you know, he played in Louisville
and he didn't get a lot of games like this
in his career. So I think it's taugh.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Remember Nose Flowers, we talked about Isaiah Likely, you did,
in fact, you said that Friday, and I mean he
had three catches, he didn't drop anything, and Andrews kind
of had a rough one. I'm a little surprised they
didn't scheme it up for Likely there, but you know
Andrews has been with him forever, like he can't fold
the play call.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Who was there just just to drop? Next up is
the Rams Colin who whoof boy?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They looked like they had a game winning drive there
before Jolen Carter stepped up.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Man, he was a monster.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
They did not play perfect football, but they had a
lot of guts in that. How about this catch? He
just stole out ball picking.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
On thirty four a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
He after Quinnon Mitchell went out thirty four, the areas
getting beat.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Again, stay for a couple for him. But Carter was excellent.
Stafford was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Pretty good. Lamar Jackson is pretty good. Wasn't great? Pretty good?
Good enough to win a road game.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Now here's the thing. He is thirty six and.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
He's got two years left on his contract, and the
media started to ask him about his future here Stafford.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
As far as my future goes, I mean, it's thirty
minutes after the last game, so it takes some time
to think about it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But a few eld's playing some prettyaball.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Feel like it.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
If it was a robust quarterback class, they would draft
a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It is not.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I will tell you there is a quarterback in this
draft they believe they can get in the second and
third round, and if that quarterback is available, they will
go after him. I've been sworn to secrecy. I will
say this. They would like to trade down and get
more and more picks. You know, if they had to
rework a Stafford deal. Right now, they have a first,
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no second, two thirds of fourth, no fifth, and a
bunch of six no seventh. So I think they'd like
to trade down somehow, figure out a way to get
a second, even if it means giving up a third,
They're fine. I think they need another corner, another receiver,
a left tackle. They are very close. If this game's
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in LA and they're not playing that weather, who knows.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I've watched the four mobile quarterbacks win triumphant over the weekend. Okay,
and I know we didn't love Jalen Milroe this season
at Alabama, but I'm just telling you his value has
to be skyrocketing.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Column.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
You know, I'm glad moves like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You know what I thought this weekend? The winner was
cam Ward Go get a guy to give the loser
all the receivers. Bill's better without Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
C J.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Stroud good enough without his two of his best receivers.
Is my whole? AJ Brown no factor in the game.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Hut.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So my take? What Tyreek Hill? What's it matter? I
thought receivers lost this weekend? Interesting and quarterback like a
cam Ward he Engeneur Sanders is go either way. Cam
is a much more mobile athlete.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Final story is to the NBA. Last night, the Lakers lost.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Their fourth in their last six. I watched this kind
of got druged by the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There After the game, Lebron was asked about how LA
can improve their inconsistenty to the inconsistencies, and he had
this response, it's.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Our team is constructed. We don't have from must rare,
but I have a choice. I mean, that's our that's
that's the way our team is constructing. We have to
we have to play close to the perfect basketball.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, they're just not Athletica though.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, they're only sixth in the West, which I think
Barkley qualifies as garbage.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Well the East. By the way, how about this, I
won't canitle this out there?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Please do?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You're an owner of some multiple peruvia in the softball team,
so let me build this out there. Josh Harris in
twenty eleven buys the Sixers. He hasn't gotten to an
Eastern Conference finals. He has to cross his fingers every
year if MBAT is healthy. Josh Harris buys the Commander's
(34:10):
first year NFC championship. Well, what that tells you the
difference in the league. This is not a shot at
the NBA or baseball the NFL. You can go from
a circus. I mean, there was a smell around that
Washington football team. In that Houston team, you get the
quarterback right in the staff, right, Washington has no business
(34:32):
being in this game, name their two best defensive players.
I mean it is Jade and Terry McLaurin, and Hope
you have a great game plan.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's how many feel about the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
It's Lebron ad and you don't trust Austin Reeves right,
He's like, Hope you.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Got a good game plan.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
And Lebron's out here saying, listen, this is how we're constructed.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I know some people are gonna say, Lebron, you built
the team. Let's just let's settle down.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
They're sitting to Wesley le Bron did want Westbrook. They've
been reeling since that move years ago.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Man, take it.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Lebron catches strays here on a Monday, Come on, forty.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's that's very suss.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Jay mclaman news.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Urban Meyer Last Hour, Urban Meyer, Last Hour. I think
I like the Buckeyes, I know, but Riley Leonard I
mean Josh Allen, I mean Riley Leonard will keep them
in the game.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
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Speaker 2 (35:35):
Sunday on Fox.
Speaker 12 (35:37):
Historic Rivals collide with a trip to Super Bowl fifty
nine on the line as a rookie Sensation Jayden Daniels
in Washington against Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts and the Eagles.
Pregame coverage starts at one pm he Stern with kickoff
at three.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Pony on Fox's My take on Lamar Jackson. If you
want to tell the story of Lamar Jackson struggling in
the playoff, then you also have to tell the story
We're on the road in snow without Zay Flowers. He
had one hundred and twenty five passer rating, went twelve
to fifteen and was a drop pass from tying it.
You got to tell the whole story. Now, I could
be a Lamar Jackson apologist, but like Matt Hasselbeck, I've
(36:14):
never seen anything quite like him. I think he's remarkable.
I think there are quarterbacks in the pocket like a
Mahomes I would take, but he's so special that on
a bad snap, he's just trying to be Superman and
that's just his DNA. So every winning team in the
playoffs had no turnovers, and nine straight games have been
won by a team with no turnovers. So again, you're
(36:35):
not playing Caroline and the Jets. You just can't make
mistakes on this stuff. And Lamar in four of his
eight playoff games has had multiple turnovers and in four
of the eight, and in those four he's over four.
So that's fine. Now. Conversely, the Bills kind of took
the governor governor down their offense, especially after the yearly turnovers,
(36:57):
and said, let's just play smart football. We've got to
lead were at home. Let's just let's just let Baltimore
beat themselves. And to a degree they did. But you know, again,
the Mark Andrews fumble, the Mark Andrews drop, that's not
necessarily that's that's not on Lamar Jackson. You got to
tell the whole story, is that. Yeah, well, Lamar had
a bad pick. That that pick I'm showing the TV
(37:18):
audience is terrible. But he digs you out of those
because he is so unique. That fumble. I thought this
was the play of the game, not the drop pass.
I thought that fumble. I thought Buffalo was in trouble.
I thought Baltimore had taken over. They'd had big drives,
they had seized momentum. Buffalo wasn't moving the ball in
the second half, they were playing a little safe and
they weren't moving the ball consistently. They needed, you know,
(37:39):
Tyler Bass to hit field goals. But here's John Harbaugh
and the mistakes that eventually doomed the Ravens. It was
uncharacteristic to have turnovers like that.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
There are opportunities for us to uh to.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Not have those, but we have, you know, so you
try to bounce back from That's what you try to
do in the course of a game. You can't take
him back. Yeah, I mean, even on the interception that
Lamar threw, it does appear that Rashad Bateman he stopped running.
So I thought that was a psychology in this game.
You can watch it here again, Bateman just stops. So
(38:17):
Bateman's a guy that was, you know, not a big
crucial player in the regular season, and he goes into
the game is their best receiver. So I thought going
into the game that Lamar and the Ravens were thinking, Okay,
Buffalo's really good. It's at Buffalo. We don't have Zay Flowers.
We're gonna probably Lamar probably is thinking to himself, I
(38:37):
got to make a few things happen here. We're not
going in with a conservative game plan. I'm gonna make
things happen. So Bateman stops running. It looks like a
terrible pick, but you see what happened Andrew. So Bateman
Andrews let him down again. Stafford played good enough the
way Lamar played good enough to win in my opinion.
Now tonight Urban Meyer next hour, Ohio State, which has
(39:00):
decided nil and talent advantage, will take on Notre Dame tonight.
I do like Ohio State, but Notre Dame I think
has better special teams. I think they have Sean McVay
as a coach. I think their defense is at least
as good as Ohio State. But the Buckeyes have really
one of the more amazing receiving cors. I mean, the
(39:20):
last four or five years, Ohio State has become like
a conveyor belt of first round wide receivers. And I
just think Notre Dame unless they can just I mean
honestly special teams can Notre Dame. This sounds ridiculous. Get
good punting. Can they pin Ohio State back? Can they
(39:41):
kind of win field position in the first half of
the game. They're gonna have to do more right to win.
There's more margin of air for Ohio State. They blew
out Oregon, they blew out Tennessee. They look pretty unbeatable.
But you know in the Michigan game, Will Howard had
a rocky star. The coach has lost confidence in him.
(40:02):
And when you do go in as a dominating favorite,
you have a tendency if you get sloppy early to
pull it back a little bit. Let's play conservative. So
I get the better quarterback, I think, I get the
better coach, I get the better special teams. Notre Dame's
not here because they've lucked into it. They've got a
lot of components, but they're gonna need to play a
(40:23):
more perfect football game. Certainly capable of doing that, but
they are what is it now, eight eight and a
half point underdog. I think I like the under I
think it's going to be a low scoring game that favors,
by the way, Notre Dame. I'm not gonna bet. I
just I don't see Notre Dame getting blown out. They
(40:45):
just they're very resourceful, a very resourceful football team. But
usually in these national championship games, big favorites win, and
often win going away. That, as J. Mack will tell you,
has been the trend.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Last five, Natty's favorites have just dominated.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, so in Ohio, state's better.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I just want to know, game plan wise, is Notre
Dame gonna do what Texas did to slow down Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's probably your best bet.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
But if you go in with this met we got
here doing our thing, We're going to keep doing it.
Smith is going to kill you. You can't man him up.
He demands double coverage.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
At least, right.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, Texas totally shut him down and hung around,
hung around, and then they had a chance.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Late before Jack Sawyer stepped in with one of the
great plays.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, Texas also had a much more dynamic offensive machine.
So Texas takeaway, you know they Texas is going to
play and coach different than Notre Dame does. Notre Dame
doesn't have that kind of firepower
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