The Best Of Covino & Rich

Covino & Rich are live for Day 2 on Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Super Bowl! MLB Legend Curt Schilling joins the guys to tell wild stories from his playing days. Social Media Superstar Paige Spiranac stops by to discuss her rise to influencer status. Plus, the guys debate player motivations heading into the Super Bowl!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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I want to boo this guy as a Yankees fan,
but he's such a baseball legend that I can't. Let's
welcome you three to have no no, oh, I have,
but not here. Yeah, not in real life.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
That doesn't bother me because you never beat me when
it metts.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I know you're such a big fella. I would never
even go there. Let's welcome three time World Series champion Kurt.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
By the way, a guy that has been part of
so many big moments.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah. Well, and that's what I say when I people
talk about my career. I've been blessed. I you know,
the ninety three World Series suck, Joe Carter walked us off,
but everybody remembers it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh one, nine to eleven Yankees die, unbelievable. Oh four,
you know, so I was in three of the most
memorable postseason moments in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Couldn't you let New York have the one? One?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh? Come on, dude? And it was funny because it
happened As an Arizona fan, it happened perfectly. We beat
We win the first two. We go to New York
in three games. That energized that city at a time
when everybody was looking for it. And then we come
home and we beat the hell out of Pettit and
then game seven we walked Marion off.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
You know what, man, You're right, every one of those
so memorable. That really is interesting. Now again, he played
nine seasons with the Phillies. So I got to ask
you again, Eagles are here. They're representing the fans around
ye our Philadelphia fans misunderstood or are they the best?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Like anybody knows what they are real, They're not misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
They are who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Punch you in the face. They are their family. To me,
they were. I mean, I spent nine years there and
probably wasn't booed as often as I should have been.
But my god, ninety three we had a parade in
philadelph Feel losing the World Series. One of the most
beloved teams that ever played in Philadelphia. There was a
connection there, and like Yankee fans, Philly fans don't boo

(02:11):
players that suck. They don't care about you, they don't
acknowledge you. It's like the worst as an athlete, Like
they don't even know I'm here.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Nothing where. I think when a woman is like apathetic.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Apathy is the worst thing in a lot of ways,
and that's one of them. But they are smart as
hell when it's sober, and like Yankee fans, they they
you know, people after I've retired have said, you know
things to me and they're like, oh, you know, I
hope I didn't offend you. I'm like, dude, nine years
in Philly, five in Boston. Uh, and like I was

(02:41):
the Red Sox in the Yankee Stadium, so I heard
things you can't even fathom.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So in a way, they prepared you for all these
big moments, right because you're sort.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Of I loved I loved playing in Yankee Stadium. I
love you hated me exactly. And I was telling somebody
earlier I had my favorite you know, give and take.
Like the Yankee fans wouldn't go, oh, your mother's a whore.
They would go dude, you got a seventy r A
and may you suck right? Right?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Like they were statistically they hit it really hurt they
hit damn.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, they offended me right and and and but but
and you you know, go back to uh oh four.
I you know, I come out and saying I can't
think of anything better than making fifty five thousand people
from New York shut up. Well, now I go out
in Game one, get my butt handed to me, and
they were anything but quiet. Uh and I deserved it.
But then I come back six days later and we

(03:33):
worked them over a little bit, and but they were
Since I retired, I have not had a larger group
of people reach out to me and say I hated
you like a mofo when you played, but man, I
respect the hell out of you. And and it was
a fan base that whose respect was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Oh yeah, absolutely, man, That's exactly how I feel talking
to you, man, because you're so many, so so much
a part of all my baseball memories as a fan.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
If they were the barrier though, right, I mean, oh
one was magical, But it was also the Yankees. In
four the World Series was Red Sox Yankees. It wasn't
Red Sox Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, it was a sweep, Right, you swept that.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I'll tell you the magical story behind us winning eight
in a row when if you ask for it, but
we won out and we swept the Cardinals, who were
an unbelievable team, no disrespect, but the win was the
red was.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
The Yankees that comeback documentary on Netflix? Did you watch
it accurate? Because I felt that was a really that
was a.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Really yes in a sense like there's a lot of
guys misremembering how much they how important they were, things
that they said or did, But for the most part,
it was spot on.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Do you enjoy them looking back though at all the
highlights you enjoy watching those.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's it's hard to explain to people that have never
been in a locker room that's family. During the baseball season,
you spend more time with your teammates than you do
your family. You become close with these people, and so
that's why when we get together after twenty years, it's
like we were the same room yesterday. And of all
the teams I played twenty two years of professional baseball,
thousands of teammates, so there's twenty four hours in a day,

(05:06):
you kind of pick who you're going to still talk
to or whatever. Doug Mirabelly is someone I talked to daily, weekly, whatever.
It's not a lot, but but once you're in the room,
it's a hug and oh my god, it's great to
see you. And that's why when they you know, David
McCarty passed recently and uh, he called me from the
reunion on the field, uh, and was like, dude, this

(05:26):
is you should be here, this is great. And then
you know, I go with his funeral and unfortunately this
phase of life, you guys will someday understand the phone
ringing is not always a good thing. Oh yeah, you know, yeah,
it's hard. Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Looking back at a for Kurt Chilling hang with Covino Rich,
how happy were you that the sock was bloody?

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It just added well to the story.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
If you go back and look at everything around that,
you're not going to find quotes from me. I didn't
talk about it. It was a it was the media
made it a sensational thing, and that's fine. But I
wasn't talking about my ankle and my bloody sock and
all the things that went with that. It's just the
irony behind. I played for the Red Sox and my
sock was red and the camera zoomed right. And that's

(06:10):
why if the priority for game two of the World
Series wasn't the sock, I wrote on my on my
shoe strikeout als because I had realized what an unbelievable
thing that was, like the attention that was drawn to it,
the only thing. And we were talking about this earlier.
The only thing I remember about Game six was two things.
One was my foot was bleeding so bad that the

(06:31):
sock on the bottom was wet, like when you walk
in water.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right, that's the worst feeling, wrote but that's one way
to ruin your day.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I threw it away. I threw the sock away like
I took it off. After that, I wouldn't thinking about,
oh my god, my sock's bloody. I was like, dude,
I historical sock, right, but yeah, and I'm not thinking
like that. So I threw it on the ground. And
somebody earlier was asking about the original one, and I said,
if it's out there and somebody has it, it's one
of the clubhouse guys from New York. Because I just
threw it on the ground.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
About it, well, Now, when you look back at that
oh four season when you're down three out, I know
the right thing to say is like, we're not out
of it yet, But was there, like, yes, was there
you really felt seminal moment.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And I always tell the story when I talk about
Terry Francona. So we had close circuit television in the clubhouse,
and so in Boston there was a media room up stairs,
and whoever's being interviewed we could see it downstairs. And
I was standing downstairs and the first question out of
one of the butt clowns in the media was, you know,
what do you what are you gonna do tomorrow? And

(07:32):
Tito's like, what do you mean? He goes, well, what
are you gonna do? And he goes, We're gonna show
up and play our asses off. What else did we do? Yeah?
And it clicked. I'm watching this thinking, but that's it.
We don't have to beat them for in a row.
We don't have to beat them tomorrow. We have to
beat them in the top of the first inning. And
so we have a team meeting and I said, this
is not about winning four games. This is about if

(07:53):
you make it out, make it an out that you win.
You got twelve pitch at bat, every bat as a
pitcher win and for eight days we didn't get beat.
And it's what happens when twenty five supremely talented people
are hyper focused. And the story I was gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Eart least tell us I want to hear at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
So oh, in two thousand and one, we're with the Diamondbacks,
we're in the World Series. My wife makes purple scarves
for all the wives. They're a little bonding thing. Last
forward to two thousand and four, my wife makes these
scarves for the wives. Fast forward to nineteen thousand to two,
Game three loss. We're down three to zero. Johnny Damon's girlfriend,

(08:32):
Michelle walks into the wives on her my wife weren't friends,
and she throws the scarf on my wife's lap and
she goes nice fing job these scarves did, to which
my wife stands up and says, well, maybe if you
wore your husband wouldn't be Oh for twenty fists. They
had to be broken up. Way, dude, I get it.
So we just lost by seventeen runs. I hoppy in
the car and that's the story I hear from my wife.

(08:55):
I'm like, oh my god, Johnny and I walk into
the clubhouse. The next day we see.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Other like.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Bust out laughing. Oh like, oh god, we didn't lose
a game there, and so like I was like, that's
the that's why.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's so cool.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here with Kurt Schilling, Cavino and Rich Can I talk
about Dave Roberts too, because he was a major turning
point of the series. Did you view him back then
as a guy that could be a leader of a clubhouse? Oh? Absolutely,
as always had to follow his career, you know, as
a manager with the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Let's back up to the stolen base. It goes without
one of the things that I had a one moment
in my career like this. But when you're going to
do something and your opponent knows it and everybody in
the world knows it, and you still do it.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
That that's that's not talking about enough every human, everybody,
And he went in the game for one reason.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And everybody thought that was the turning point of this
until we found out about the fight.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Well well, right, exactly right, Well, I and I yea,
I had so two thousand and two, I'm at the
All Star Game, and the day before the All Star Game,
I'm starting and I walked up to Alex Rodriguez, American
League's taking VP, and I said, hey, listen, dude, if
you come up tomorrow with nobody on, I'm throwing you
nothing but fastballs. He's like, what, I'm like, I want
to see if I can get the best hitter in

(10:16):
the world out. When he knows what's coming, he's like, okay,
I had a mic on and I was for Fox actually,
and he comes up nobody on. Yeah, first pitch ninety
seven paint away black heat and he took it, and
I think he was thinking, is he lying? Was he
right right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Now you're in his head.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Right right, Next pitch ninety eight black inside corner, untouchable,
Next pitch ninety nine away, three pitches, sit down. I
was like, I was feeling pretty sexy y y.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, always throwing heat like that, even when you were
a little kid.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I don't know, That's just something you got older. It
came honestly, after I got hurt. I had solar surgery
in ninety five and I had label surgery, and I
kind of got religion and about my arm. After that,
my doctor at the time kind of showed me a
cadaver an autopsy showed me the inside of his shoulder.
I understood how everything worked. So I became hyper focused

(11:10):
on medicine in the sense that you play one hundred
and sixty two games a one hundred and eighty one days,
you're sore every day. You know, I don't feel like
I'm eighteen. You never feel like you're eighteen the day
after you're eighteen forever. But there's aches and pains, excuse me,
And there's a difference between being scorn being injured. Yeah,
and so I always knew when I was sore, why
I was sore, where I was sore, what I had
to do, And so I got religion and I came back.

(11:32):
The first start I made coming off of my label surgery,
everybody was like, oh my god. I went seven innings,
punched out ten, gave up two hits, and I was
throwing ninety six. I was a ninety two ninety three
guy before, and everybody was like, oh my god. And
then it just kind of took off everything click.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I was like, I'm coaching my kids and litterally, Yeah,
at what age do you feel like you know that
someone's like my dad.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Told me when I was thirteen. He said, you're gonna
get a chance to play something. And I'm like, okay, dude,
everybody's daddy, right whatever, you didn't believe. And he never
pushed me to to play baseball, but he pushed me
to play the game hard and play the game right.
And you know, one of the things I would tell
you is until a kid, until a boy's hands stop growing,
you have no idea what they can do. Hands stop
growing at like nine, exactly right, breaking ball at nine

(12:16):
was your breaking balls today? Yeah, And I tried to
explain that's one of the most important measurements on the
kidside because of what I can do and not do
with the baseball.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Gotta tell us this. We know when you're in the game,
you're in the zone. He told us that a Rox story.
Just now, what are the days before, like the night before,
like especially in a World series, so you know you
gotta win.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
In two thousand and one, so I had a sports
psychologist and just and I'm not lying about this, the
night before I would always do a pregame pre night
session and it would he would it not hypnotize, but
he would talk me through. The night before Game seven
of the two thousand and one World Series, I fell
asleep on the phone and woke up with the phone
next to me. I was so relaxed.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Wow, But is that annoying?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Because what was happening that day was no different than
what happened from the first day. I prepared every game
from the first day of spring training like it was
the Game seven of the World Series. So nothing on
the day I pitched was different except the game.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you credit that because you learned famously eleven and
two in the postseason or something like that, so you
just never really changed.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, I've stepped up my I became somebody else in October.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So then I got to ask you.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hear people say things like this guy wants it more,
this team is motivated.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Is that I don't say that's not it is because
everyone wants it.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well, well everybody wants it, some people don't know how
to get it. Like I always looked at October, I
knew I my first start in the postseason, I struck
out the first five guys I faced, and no one
had ever done that before. And I was like, yeah,
I'm feeling sick.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
It's sort of a damn Shane. The Hall of Fame, nonsense,
your your politics, your vibe. Do people just hold it
against you?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
They've said it, right, they But the game owes me nothing.
The game owes me absolutely nothing. And one of the
reason I'm getting back into the game as a coach,
hopefully I want to teach pitching and coach or do color.
You know, I would love to do like a Manning
broadcast on a baseball game, because there's some more downtime
in baseball than anything nothing, And I have stories for

(14:19):
years and personality. People don't want to hear me talk
about Otani's batting average. They know that the hey what
are they talking about on the mound right now? And
I'm like ninety percent of conversations were about the really
hot blonde behind know Blake. They had nothing to do
with the game. It was the pitching goes trying to
make calm me down. And and so those are the
kind of things that I feel like I know pitching

(14:41):
as well as anybody's ever lived, and I can teach
it and I can talk it, and so you know,
I kind of want to back into that. But the
whole you know, the political thing and the Hall of
fame thing. My life's complete. I won't be more of
a person if I suddenly have a plaque in Cooper soown.
What that will do for me is call out all
the people who got me there, and it's a chance

(15:02):
to recognize I was raised by an amazing man. My
father died eight months for I made my big league debut,
but I left the ticket every game I started in
the big leagues in his name, so there was always
an empty seat in the ballpark, and I ended up
getting the home seat from the vet that he's that
I allocated for him.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
After the vet, Oh you got the no way, That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
But so the game owst me nothing, and if it happens,
it's a way for me to make sure. But my
biggest if I had a problem with it, are the
people that have died since I retired who should be
here and it should have been here for me to
talk about what they meant to me.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Right, So it's shouting at your teammate, it's your family.
Family for the fans, and just as baseball fans, man,
you belong there. Two hundred and sixteen wins, three thousand,
one hundred and sixteen strikeouts, six time All Star, three
time champion, a guy that did it all man.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
So thank you. Yeah, we'll see you there, Kurt. We
could talk to you all day time. I feel like
we could talk for two hours.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh, I a big baseball guy. Story. You know what.
Let's do it again, man, that's again.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, by the way, real quick, I know you got
to tell us about what's doing here in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But I'm a big Mets fan peed a lonzo sticking around.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
You think I don't that that's gone weird weird one
gone weird on me. And apparently the Blue Jays are out,
but it's gone weird on me.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I don't see anybody look what. He looks like a
chump going back to the Mets. Now, No, first of all, no, right,
I mean he's still seventy million.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
What he's not gonna look like a chump going anywhere.
It his agent made a bet and and was wrong. Yeah,
and that's what you uh. I didn't have an agent
for the last eleven years of my career. I did
all my own stuff. I had total no trade clauses
and all the things, because I knew what my value was.
It was in the paper, what everybody's making is right there.
I know, Hey, I'm better than him, I should make

(16:41):
more than it. I mean, that was easy stuff. But
you have to have confidence to sit in the room
with people like that. And I I want him to
go back to New York. I mean, I don't know
that he's get him over the hump guy, but but
he's a he's clearly a fan favorite. He hits the
ball with a lot of force and having a forty
home run, but they're not as rare as they used

(17:02):
to be because everybody's home run are striking out two
hundred times, which is the game has changed dramatically that way,
and that's I don't think that's for the better, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Kurt. What are you doing here in New Orleans?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So? Yeah, twenty five years ago the World War Two
Museum was founded. I was on the original board of directors.
Nice all right, And a lot of people don't know
why it was built in New Orleans. You've seen Saving
Private Ryan. Of course, opening scene of Saving Private Ryan
when they're riding into the beach. They're riding on Higgins boats,
which were built in New Orleans. And that was a transcendental,

(17:33):
amazingly important thing for the war effort. I was on
the board director. Half my collection resides in the museum,
and I would tell you that it is a true
bucket list thing to go over there. I met one
hundred year old vet yesterday. There's only sixty six thousand
left out of the sixteen and a half million, and
they are preserving the ural history of that generation, which

(17:55):
has to happen. We have to be able to pass
that along to future generations because for all the warts
this country has had, and you know you can find
anybody willing to bring them up, the fact of the matter
is we are a direct result of good and bad
uh and this was the greatest generation and we need
to remember them, respect them, pay tribute to them, and

(18:15):
keep that memory live.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
And so your collection too. The National World War Two Museum.
Kurt Shilling, thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Fun Man, Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
No problem. We got more.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Covin on Rich next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Welcome back to Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio
to our left. It's a pleasure to meet and welcome
someone we see on social media all the time. Over
eleven million followers on all social media platforms. From sports Grid,
gimme props. Let's welcome Paige Sporadic to the show page.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (19:00):
I'm super excited.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Pleasure to have you now. Great to see you in person.
We feel like we see you every day on our phone.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
How many people do you feel as though they recognize you?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And I was like, I know her? Where do I
know her from? You get that a lot?

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, Well, went you look familiar?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Oh yeah, if I'm on a golf course, it makes sense. Yeah,
but like walking around here anywhere. But I have the
best job ever because like I can be invisible in
real life because social media fame isn't real.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
So it's like I have that life and then I
have my real life.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You got to tell us about that again, page Brannic,
you definitely know her again, give me prompts. Is the
new show on sports Grit. She's a former pro golfer
turns social media superstar. Tell us about that decision, how
it happened. Was it hard to say, well, I'm gonna
give up pro golf and focus on this but still golf, Like,
tell us about the journey.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah, So I was a competitive gymnast before I switched
over to golf, and I really wanted to be a
pro athlete, and I thought that I would just be really.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Well suited to golf.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
And so I did junior golf and then played D
one golf and then two years professionally. But that first
year it's financially straining and I didn't have any support
and it just kind of happened to me where someone
wrote an article about me.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
I went viral overnight.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
I went from having five hundred followers two hundred thousand followers,
and companies were reaching out. And at the time, this
is almost ten years ago now, there was no path
to be a social media influencer or content creator, and
especially in golfer in sports, and so I was like, oh,
I can use this to my advantage to finance my
golf career. And that's really how it started. And after

(20:39):
really like a year of trying to balance both, which
was really hard, and I was also dealing with a
lot of criticism of you know, getting a sponsor invite
or just what people said was like special treatment in
the golf industry because of my following or my appearance,
and it was just too hard to handle. And I
was never cut out for pro golf. I had the

(21:01):
physical skills to do it, but oh my god, I
am such.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
A head case. It was bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Way got to the most the criticism.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Or you know, I think that like coming from a
gymnastics background where you need to be perfect and you're
striving for perfection, and then you go to golf, which
is the exact opposite. There's no such thing as perfect,
and really you look like this throughout your career and
the highs never really outweighed the lows.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
For me, there's just something about golf.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
And I don't know if you've played it, but it
just makes you feel so small about yourself.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
For that reason, yeah, I have not because everyone's like, you're.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Gonna you're gonna love it one day, right, and then
the minute you feel like I'm getting pretty good, then
you feel like you suck.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
It just eats you alive, And especially when you're trying
to do it as a living, which most people like
that's the dream job. And I'm like, well, you know,
especially for the women and I was playing on the
Mini Tours. I played around twenty five tournaments. I had
a win and it barely broke even for the year.
And so you're grinding and you don't have support, and
it's just a really hard lifestyle. So there's so much
pressure on you and then me just kind of being

(22:03):
a people pleaser and wanting.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
To do a good job.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
And also it's a really unique sport too, where you know,
my parents always told me, if you work hard, you
will be successful. If you do everything that you need
to do, you will see results. And golf is like, nah, no,
you won't. You can eat right, you can, you know,
do everything, have healthy habits and work hard in the
gym and work hard, you know, on your practice, and
then you know it could be the first tea and

(22:26):
then it's like you've never held a golf club before.
And I just couldn't ever wrap my head around that,
and so I decided to lean into doing social media
work for just a year or two to be able to,
you know, then maybe take a break of that and
go back to pro golf. In about a year of
just doing social media, I was like, I will never
ever go back to playing golf competitive.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Because that just blew blew up for your congrats, And I'm.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Just better suited.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
So what held me back in playing professional golf actually
helped me in my social media career, where I think
I was very vulnerable and you know, competition was hard
for me, and that vulnerability helped me build a really
great community. And so I'm just much better suited to
be doing this and I still get to stay in golf,
which I'm so passionate about. But I just was never
meant to play professional golf.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, hey, listen, we're here hanging with Page, Sporanic, Kavino
and Rich. What I love about what you do is
you don't shy away from the obvious.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
You're good at golf.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
What are you talking?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
You're a good.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Looking woman, and like a lot of times, it's like
a hesitancy where people like, well, I don't know if
I want to lean in, and You're like, listen, I
was blessed with good looks and I know how to
play sports, and I know sports.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Why not marry the two?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:28):
I mean when I first started doing this, I again
had no idea what it would morph into, and I
was taking a more traditional route and it was so funny.
I posted a picture and I was wearing a turtleneck
and someone called me out for my wardrobe and I
was like, this isn't about my wardrobe. You're just putting
me in this box. And I got so sick of them.

(23:48):
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna lean in
and I'm gonna do that the best I possibly can.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I know.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Right, So, my social media is morphed over the years,
and it's really become this like parody of how people
view me, and if you follow me, you're kind of
in on the bit and it's like if you know,
you know. And I have so much fun with it
and I'm very self aware, and I just feel like
there's so much negativity online that I want people to
come to my page and have fun and smile and

(24:14):
not think that I'm like trying to preach something or
do this or do that, like you with the.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
First Like I feel like because of you, there's so
many like I have buddies that like my whole algorithm
is like hot girls golfing.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
You mean you started sort of like a genre.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
No, I mean I paved a path for so many
not even just for the women, but for also my
male counterparts to be able to do this. I was
the first one to be able to uh monetize your
social media in a way in the golf industry that
no one had ever really done before. And sometimes I
don't always get credit for that because again of like

(24:47):
how I've built my brand in it, because it is
more kind of silly and not as like in your
face golf all the time. But I'm really proud of that,
and it's so cool that so many women now have
an opportunity to make, you know, a career.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Have you met guys that are intimidated that you are
better than them at golf? Because there's a lot of
guys that would have a hard time, my gosh, it's
better than me?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Like is that? Have you encountered many of men that
are insecure about your skills?

Speaker 7 (25:10):
You know?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
It's funny because a lot of people, because I am
so public and I say, oh, I feel that playing
golf professionally.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
That they think that I'm a bad golfer.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
And so when I meet a lot of people, they're
not nervous that they're playing with me because they think
I'm good. They think that I'm going to be bad
and I'll make contact on the first show and they're like,
oh no, oh my gosh, and like that's the fun part.
It's like, I I still can play at a, you know,
a good level, and I'm confident in my skills and
but most people just don't realize that I, you know,

(25:42):
can break seventy You.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Could hustle so many people.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I'm doing it online.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I mean that's the whole correct, that's the big hustle.
By the way, Hporanic, I'm a Cavino and Rich show
Fox Sports Radio. Uh, show me your tips. You're not
shying away for like I said, everything's like you said,
if you're in on it, you're in on it.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
When you talk about gimme props prop bets, looking at
Super Bowl fifty nine, are there, bet you're already eyeing
up with people you're talking about or no.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Do you like some of the props?

Speaker 5 (26:09):
I love them.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
They have the national anthem, the gator grade poor is
always my favorite of what color it's going to be,
I mean, always the fun prop bets. But what we
decided to do with Gimme props is people were writing
in prop bets that they want to see me attempt
So the first one the first episode that launched on
February second. Our YouTube channel under lost pages is dirty Balls.

(26:31):
So again leaning it have a fun and it's uh.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
By the way, when she said that, she looked at you,
I want you to get rich. She said dirty balls
and just so you know, to clear and so.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
I have to clean golf balls, dirty golf balls and
a certain amount of time. And then the second one
was a double stacked burger and I have to finish
it in under five bytes.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, right, Billy, Yeah, I'm supposed to be fun, but
supposed to be fun. Do you ever think about how
you really just this.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
Is my I think about my digital footprint and I
like shiver sometimes.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
But there are times.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
We think like we're faking life, Like we talk about
radio in sports and nonsense. Real job you are, like
people are betting on a cheeseburger bites.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Percent And it's so funny because you know, I hear
people in my industry and they're like, oh, my job
is so you know, difficult, and I'm like, we have the.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Best job ever.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Like if you talk to someone in the real world
with like an actually challenging job, it humbles you real quick.
And I'm so blessed to be able to do what
I do every single day, and I never take that
for granted. And I'm so appreciative of my community that allows.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Me to eat cheeseburgers like job.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Ever, when when you walk around like a media row
like this for a big event like the super Bowl,
this is your demo, So do you feel that everyone's
looking where you're going? Like, like I wise to that,
but I saw you walk this way and every radio
booth is like's that page?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Like oh really, yeah, did you get that vibe?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
No?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
I think I'm just so desensitizing.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It happened on the golf course. It probably happens all
the time.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
Well, you know, it's funny because a lot of people think, oh,
you must be like really confident, and I like, at
my core, I'm like deeply insecure, and so sometimes when
people look at me, I'm like, is there is there
a makeup on my teeth? Or like is there something wrong?
And so when people are like looking I'm like, oh
my god, like.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
There's something wrong with me?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
And I don't think about it in like ever a
positive way in my life.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
They're trying to read your shirt, That's what it says
I just hope both teams have fun. Have fun again.
Page blad it.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
I mean it was only that.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Really tiny print, right, so you put it on. I
gotta ask you this. You're talking about how great the
career is, right, but there has to be a weird
side or tell us how you balance out the fact
that everybody wants to know everything about you because everything's
so public, right, and they want to see what you're
doing at home, and they want to see all your
videos and everything. How do you balance any privacy when
you're so public all the time.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
When I first started doing this, I was an open
book and I would say everything that just you know,
popped into my head, and I realized, like, that's probably
not the best thing that you could be doing. And
so I still want to keep my authenticity and be
genuine because that's how you connect with your audience. But
there's just certain things that I decided that I'll never
talk about, which is like friends, family, any relationships.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
It's just not worth it.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
And so when you go on to any of my
social media platforms, it's me and me only because I
signed up for this, but a lot of people in
my life, especially like my best friends, they don't even
have social media, and so I don't want to subject
them to There's so much good, but there is also
some bad and I've come to terms with that. But
that's not a life for everyone, and so yeah, there
is a balance, but like keeping that part of my

(29:45):
life separate. And I think it's also helped with the
hate too, because it's a persona that I play. It's
a character and it's not really me or my real life.
And I think that separation it's my most confident, sexiest,
most playful side of me. The person I want to
be is who I show online. It's who I like

(30:07):
strive to be that confident.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's like Larry David said, he wants to be who
he is on Courage, Yeah, but in real life he
just can't.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And that platform, the platform allows you to expects you
to do that.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yeah, at this point, Yeah, I mean, because at the
end of the day, it needs to be entertaining, right
and so like, if I'm just sitting home in sweats
and doing nothing and like reading, people are not going
to find that interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
How do you handle hate?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean, it's easy to say just ignore it all,
but there'll be times we'll do a show or an
event or like that was good. And for every nice
person there's an a hole that's saying some stuff. Do
you just totally block it all out? Or their times
where you're like, yeah, people are pretty mean. Like social
media is not a nice place.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Again, I'm like so desensitized to it now, but I
will say that, like I've noticed that the things that
people say that bother me the most are insecurities that
I have with myself. And so you do have to
It's gonna be cheesy, but like you have to take
that journey of like self love and like figuring out
why those comments bother you. So for me, like I
feel like I failed at pro golf, and so when

(31:08):
people criticize my golf game early on in my career,
that really ate at me because I was insecure about that.
And now again it's a persona. It's this kind of
character that I play up and being able to separate
like what I do from who I am. And it's
hard because as a content creator, you are the brand
and so when someone is criticizing you, they're criticizing the

(31:30):
brand or this version that they think they know of you.
But I can't sit down and have an hour long
conversation with every single person I meet, and I feel
if I did, I would change or sway they're Maybe
not maybe I'm just very unlikable and like everything that
people say. But like, once you get to know someone,
then you can make a full, you know, judgment on

(31:50):
who they actually are.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
And you just won't get that opportunity with so many people.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Paigeperanic, I'm sure you get a lot of hate, but
you get a lot of love too. You have eleven
million followers across platforms. You're a celebrity, you said, social
media celebrity. How are you want to put it?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
An?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Do you put that number of true?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Though?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's a lot of people million. Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy.
Cover of Sports, Illustrated you know, Illustrated Model, all that stuff.
I wanted to ask you. Obviously a lot of men
are reaching out to you all the time. Let's talk
about celebrity guys and athletes. Do they hit you up constantly?
Are you've always seeing it? You don't have to give
us names, but it has to be a constant thing. Yeah,

(32:27):
is that fair to assume?

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Yeah, a lot of baseball players and hockey players because
they love golf, and so that's always like a pretty
easy transition. And then some random people sometimes and I'm
like that was really cool that like the right, Okay,
it's like I just don't throughout all of this, like

(32:49):
I can't believe I'm doing this, and so it's so
weird to me.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So you notice that though, right, it's not like you
just see that, dude and you're like yeah, whatever, you
notice it and you're like, okay, interesting.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
I ever respond, though, no, because it's I don't you
don't meet your heroes. That's what I've found out in
this industry that most of the time I'm often disappointed,
and so I just want to if I really respect
them or like them, I kind of want to keep
it as I envisioned them in my.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
You don't want to know that they're really a creeper. No,
but maybe they're not. I mean, you got to respect
sometimes people shooting their shot. They're a fan and they're
like ay, and I'll.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Never like I I don't like when girls drop names
or make it into a big thing, because that's like
it's disrespectful, Like it takes a lot of like oh, I.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Know what you mean, Like someone would screenshot and throw
it out, Yeah publicly.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yeah, I think that's so cringe.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Yeah, I think because it takes a lot of courage.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
To like slide into someone's DMS and then for that
then to be blasted online.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I'm actually I'm with you on Matt. Yeah, I think
that's a weak look.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. By the way, when you
when you're around here, are you a big football fan?
Are you more like what besides golf? What are your
sports that you actually enjoy?

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:54):
So my aunt played freshul tennis, My dad played football
at pitt when they won the national championship. My mom
was afeicial ballet dancer. My sister ran track at Stanford,
and so we have most of the sports covered, big
sports family. Both my parents are from Pittsburgh, so I
bleed black and gold and so always been a big

(34:16):
Pittsburgh fan.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
But I just love sports. I it's just it's the best.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Because you have eleven million followers and people know who
Page Sporanic is. Do you have the ability to be like, hey,
I want to go meet Russell Wilson. I want to
you know, you know, coach Tomlin, Like, have you infiltrated
that world at all or no.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
No, I again, like I just have such imposter syndrome
that I don't even ask or try to do or
facilitate those things. Like I probably could have taken advantage
of like opportunities and I just have never done it.
But I love Mike Tomline so cool. I think it
maybe it's time the Steelers has done. But like I've

(34:54):
always loved.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Her as a coach.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
When he finds out who'll be sligned into your DMS next.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Right, hateful?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Like, hey, wait, before all this happened for you and
the golf, what was like your last regular job?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Okay, so this is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
My parents always said that if you gave your all
to sports, that you'd never had to work a job.
And so I was able to commit to sports get
a full ride scholarship, and so I never had to work.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
And then right out of.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
This, no, I worked at my sister's frozen yogurt shop
for like a week and then I couldn't figure out
the cash register, so I just started like giving people
free yogurt and I got fired by my sister.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
But I know I've never.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Worked like a real job, which I'm lucky that I
fell into what I do today. But there are so
many college athletes who are not able to get internships
or not able to get jobs, and they're thrown into
the workforce with really no skills other than what they
learned through athletics. And it's actually a pretty big problem.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I do tell my kids.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I tell my daughter, I'm like, if you get a scholarship,
all this money dad saving, you could use it for
whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
So scholarships are a big deal that.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Story, because you know, you said you didn't really have
to work, but what you've done is you've built an
empire here. I'm not downplaying that. But she did get
fired by her sister, so yeah, we can't go past that.
Sh h.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
I know, I don't even have a college degree because
this happened in my senior year and so I wasn't
able to graduate, and so I really had to like
fully lean into this or else, like I mean, would
have Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Let me ask you one more thing, Paige s Brannick
here with Kevin on Rich Fox Sports Radio. Let's say
you're on a date, hang with friends. Yeah, you're going
mini golf, top golf, any of these things are you
Are you able to check out and be casual or
you like looking at people's grips, people's swings, like, are
you able to step aside from golf?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Funny enough?

Speaker 6 (36:49):
I am terrible at mini golf, terrible. I am so
bad at it. I don't know why. It's like it's
the same thing. I can't figure.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
It out out a windmill or clown's mouth and you're off, Oh,
I just lose it.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Like my mind goes in wild places and I just
can't figure it out. And they're like, we'll bank it
off here, and I'm like, that's not real golf, Like
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
No.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
I try to have as much fun as possible. But
if someone's asking for, you know, swing tips, I will
always help them.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
And my last question again Pageparonic, you said you like
to have fun aside from golf. What's like your perfect night?
What do you like to do? Do you like to
binge out on shows? You like to be lazy? You like, like,
what's your thing?

Speaker 5 (37:25):
I mean to get home?

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Yeah, it's so funny because I the persona that you
know has kind of been created online is people think
it's like fun party girl like doing all these cool
events with like a listers and athletes, and my go
to night is home with my dog eating ice cream,
Like what binge watching a show or reading a book,

(37:47):
and like that is what I love to do.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's your happy time, that's my happy pat your show.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Right now, I am one episode away from finishing Yellowstone.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Ah, yeah, we're not on it. We're not on it.
I've been pushing shrinking on him.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Yeah, okay, I'll check it out because.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
I'm gonna need a new show after a Yellowstone is done.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Tell us about your stuff, Give me props, sports crid.
We got this here, this little.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Nice Yeah, so we we always want to bring give
me props with us everywhere. Last night at opening Night,
we had a couple of fun props. One was how
long it would take for Travis Kelcey to get asked
a question about Taylor swift over under was five minutes.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I took the under and I won. Another one was.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
How long it would take to get to the front
for sakwon Barkley over under forty five minutes. We did
not succeed on that one, but with the Lost Pages
poker chip, today's challenge is you have to put it
on your forearm and then try to catch it.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
If you do, you get the belts.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Oh no, I'm no, I gotta do this over here.
I'll stand up for this bad boy. Hold on, here's
the ship. Oh come on, I got.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
It first out first try you get nice smell?

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah for ready, I'll take it. Give me props belt,
Thank you, guys, I mean so much. Follow her, I
mean follow us. She's got enough followers, You've got plenty.
Can you save some for you know, for us club?
Where can people hit up? Obviously at page Sporanic.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, on my platforms that are my name, Page Sperannick
on Instagram It's Pagrene. And then for the Lost Pages
give me prop show, you can find it on YouTube
under lost Pages.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Perfect a pleasure meeting you, Thank ja, Thanks, thanks for
being on the show.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You're welcome by any time. We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
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Speaker 2 (39:41):
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I'm Cavino. That is Rich And for those who don't know, yes,
what Were's a reason Rich was uber giddy in that interview,

(40:23):
and the reason is underscore page dot Renee. She's got
four million followers on ig over eleven million followers on
social media. She's a looker. She leans into it. She
was a lot of fun. That's I mean.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Listen, I was trying to get at the fact that
I love when talented, good looking women in sports lean
into it, because it's like, the reality is what do
men like sports and women? So to pretend that's not
the case is silly. I love that she leans into it.
You know who else leans into their looks? Isaac Lowhenkron.
Let's go for an update.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
What's up? I love a man that leans into those looks.
What's up, buddy? Boy?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Do you know it?

Speaker 8 (41:02):
It transcends the radio airwaves. He leaves so rough elbows
upside to side. Yeah, didn't think I knew that? Did
you gotten?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
No?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
But you impressed me always.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I have that.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
What can I say? Guys?

Speaker 8 (41:18):
We will start with a story out of Philadelphia, this
one not involving the Eagles. It's in the NBA where
the Philadelphia is seventy six years and I a short
time ago that Joel Embid will be available tonight against
the Dallas Mavericks after missing fifteen games due to a
spring foot and knee swelling. Meanwhile, today we got to
hear verbally from Luka Doncic for the first time since

(41:40):
the Big trade, as the Los Angeles Lakers held his
introductory news conference.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
I mean, everybody was surprised, so you can imagine how
surprised I was. I was almost asleep, so when I
got a call, I had to check it was it
was April first. I didn't really believe it at first,
and it was. It was a big shock, hard moments
for me. It was it was home.

Speaker 8 (42:03):
Meanwhile, today New Dallas maverick Anthony Davis described his reaction
to the trade.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Was everyone else. I know.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
I was actually at home about to watch a movie
with my wife and I got the phone call. So
I had no idea what me now is? You know,
I'm kind of over it and just kind of g
ready to play with allis.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
No word how the movie came out anyway.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Finally, guys, what movie was about?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
That's why?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Is it the new Cameron DS Jamie Fox movie.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
That's That's what I wanted to know.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
Okay, it'll be hard pressed to beat any given Sunday, well,
speaking of any given Sunday. Finally, in the NFL, regarding
the perception that the Kansas City chiefs purposely get favorable calls,
NFL Referees Association Executive Director Scott Green issued a statement
today saying, and I quote, it is insulting and preposterous

(42:54):
to hear conspiracy theories that somehow seventeen officiating cruise consisting
of one hundred and thirty eight officials are colluding to
assist one team unquote. To find out how that statement
went over with the public, we checked the comments section
and at Underscore, mister c Underscore commented quote.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
Not all refs are in on it. They change the
outcome of several games a year with key calls or
no calls in critical moments. We all know it and
to pretend it doesn't happen is ridiculous unquote.

Speaker 8 (43:32):
Then finally at Vista Underscore Test two added quote. This
is like a cop pulling over a pothead for speeding
and the first thing he says is, there's nothing illegal
in my car, sir unquote. Guys, the key to knowing
that you're getting a great perspective on social media is

(43:54):
if the username has at least one Underscore in it.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Back to you, guys, no doubt you're always to hear
from you. And by the way, it isn't Isaac. You
gotta admit it's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
That they even Roger Goodell and people have to address this.
It's wild to me.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
It's unprecedented that the executive director of the Referees Association
has ever issued a statement. The NBA Referees Association has
a notable presence on social media, but not in the NFL.
But you know what will add fuel to it is
if the chiefs benefit again on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I know, you know, what's interesting to me is that,
as far as I know, aren't referees in the NFL,
unlike other sports where in the off season they're judges
and lawyers and make you like men of honor? No,
is that sort of the difference too, I don't know,
I know things about that, but that's bs men or
men men of honor.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Look what happened in the NBA. You know, you can't
just credit that. If it happened in the NBA, it's
possible anywhere. You know, just because of what they do
or whatever, doesn't mean they're great guys. I'm not buying
into it. I'm just saying that doesn't really hold a
lot of weight with me. I like you very much, buddy,
appreciate you. We're live from New Orleans, Cavino and Rich
and if you just joined us, well two things tomorrow.

(45:13):
We feel in for Colin cow Herd and for Colin
I'm the Herd, and we're still doing our regular show.
So join us, call in, get involved and stick around
because lots of people stopping by the show live, lots
of interviews, and if you just joined us, now we
had Kurt Shilling on before. And that's always interesting for
me too, because while I'm a big base we're both
big baseball fans out but you always hear, you know,

(45:34):
rumblings about Kurt Shilling and the type of guy he is,
and everything couldn't have been cooler. I found it extremely charming,
and I think the lesson there is you got to
always make your own opinions for yourself, right, even if realize.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's the problem I think a lot of times these
days is that if you disagree with people on a
couple issues here or there, like you discount that person.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I don't care about his political beliefs. The guy was
a great ball player. He's fun to talk to you exactly.
And we just were joined by Page Sporanic, the sports
illustrated model, pro golfer turned influencer, and that was a
lot of fun too. So again, catch it on the podcast,
and thanks for being here super Bowl week with us now.
Because of Super Bowl Week, obviously everybody's talking Eagles Chiefs

(46:20):
and something you promised, something we promised yesterday was what's
a bigger motivator? Everybody keeps talking about the three peat.
I've heard nobody except for me bring up the fact, well,
what about the revenge game for the Eagles? I mean,
I get it, it's an obvious, but that's not a
motivation that should be talked about. I'm I'm not trying

(46:40):
to shut you down by any means. I don't care
because you can't because I find it to be a motivator.
That's my opinion that you're gonna like stop me from
believing that I'm good. There's so many players that sit
there and watch themselves lose a game and they're watching
another team celebrate, and they sit there and they take
it in. They say the same thing all the time.
I want to remember this because I know EVER want
to feel it again. You don't think that's a major

(47:03):
motivator for Jalen Hurts and his Eagles to not want
to lose again. Bro, I'm not saying that makes it
an unbeatable motivator, but that is damn well a great motivator.
In fact, that would make them hungrier than a team
that won twice already. How do you say essen Spanish again? Rich? Actually, yeah,
it means no. I think it's Rico Davis, that's Lexeka.

(47:26):
Sure Cabasa is so up your movie. I'm not trying
to shoot you down or anything, but people who lack
are motivated more than people that have. And guess what,
these Chiefs have two super Bowl championships in the past
two years. So to downplay the hunger an appetite of
an Eagles team that lost to this team is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
That's not playing the heart of a champion because the
challenger was beat that's horse crap.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I'll give You're not a bad team, dude. They got
Saquon Barkley. Now you don't think that they're leaning into that.
You may be crazy. Maybe you need to re listen
to it. Who's more motivated in the boxing ring? The
guy that's fighting for something or the guy that was
raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. The guy
that wants something because he lacks it is always more
motivated than the guy that already has it. And guess what,

(48:14):
the Chiefs already have it.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
There's one there's one caveat one rub to your stupid thought,
and it's about the boxing ring and the UFC octagon
are different. That is a one on one sport. You're right,
some guy that you know was broke and came from
a small little village somewhere might have heart, might have

(48:36):
a you know, more motivation. There's fifty plus guys on
this team. And when you say someone wants it more.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Wants to motivate, what's the greater motivator, Well guess and
I'll tell you straight up. There's another company here that
let me go. If you don't think that that's greater
motivation for me to kick their ass, then you're crazy.
It doesn't matter what motivates you, it's how it motivates you.
I think what Jalen Hurts experienced definitely motivates him, maybe

(49:04):
even a little more than Patrick Mahomes in a row
every time there's a big maybe every game seven. You
can't act like you're so certain. What's a bigger motivator?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Every end of a World Series, NBA Championship, NHL Stanley Cup,
super Bowl, there's always a couple of players on the
losing team, and Danny Becker, there's always a couple of
players that like let the confetti fall in their head. Well,
there's always some clown on the top row of the dugout.
It was my boy Soto last year. They're sitting in
the top row like dude, I get it. You're no
more motivated than the guy that walked back in the

(49:34):
locker room did. Don't give me these theatrics that oh
Jalen Hurts really don't get in two years ago.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
It doesn't guarantee that they're gonna win. But if you
don't think that hunger is greater, then you've never been without.

Speaker 11 (49:45):
Okay, rich, let me ask you this question really quick.
What if you had a mansion already and you were
just striving to add on to the mansion as far
as the guy that writes it, or you're in a
one bedroom crafty apartment in Recida, California.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
That but that I get what you're saying on paper.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
That's a beautiful argument on paper, guys, But in reality
sometimes so much is better and.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
And like I don't care.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
That is the reality.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
But you're not. We're not saying who's better. We're saying
what's the bigger motivator? The guy that wants that mansions
more motivated than the guy that has it. You don't
think Mahomes wants a three peak. You don't think that
rich person is like I gotta stay right now, hold on.
It's not about Mahomes not being motivated. I think people
are more focused on the three peat and motivation for
the three pet than the motivation of Jalen Hurts wanting

(50:33):
to revenge that loss. No one's talking about that.

Speaker 12 (50:37):
You don't think revenge is a great motivator, I've promise you.
Every day I wake up with that motivation revenge every
boy every day thinking I can't wait for everybody to
kiss my ass.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
It's a great motivator, dude, And I don't think anyone's
talking about it enough.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I just feel like revenge in sports is a great thought.
But I think the reality is tell will always win.
And to say that some one is not motivated when
they're an elite level, it doesn't matter if they won
zero times or try to go for a three so
much is straight better.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I get it that you're right about that, and I
think the other question here is, well, maybe that extra motivation, right,
that extra I gotta win. I can't lose again. I can't.
That could take them out of their focus, out of
their game, where Mahomes is calm, cool, collected because he's
been there, done.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
So you're telling me, then, well, hold on, I should
be excited because Juan Soto stood on the top row
of the dugout last year when Yankees lost the World Series,
he should be fired up going into the season as a.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Met absolutely think you know he he wants to lose again.
World Series of busts. So you think he wants to
lose again. It's not about me being right, it's about
you downplaying this motivating factor. All right, you give me
a headache. I give you a headache every day.

Speaker 11 (51:45):
Now, this is a good debate, and I haven't heard
anybody else talking about this.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, everybody's talking about the three repeat. No one's talking
about this guy, you know, avenging the major loss that
probably haunts him every day. I hold that though, Well,
we'll wrap up the show we got, We've got more
time